🌟│wooting80he

[nova nexus]

Please only use your real name in your shipping address, otherwise you may experience problems during delivery

[oblique marsh]

yes my first name in the delivery is the correct one, I just modified that of the site not the order

[nova nexus]

The name and address you provide on the Wooting Hub is what gets printed on the shipping label

[dense ledge]

hope it's bugged and get it in july 😮

[grizzled cove]

surely its bugged 💀

[dense ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-26826812

[grizzled cove]

last time i checked it said mid july but alas

it changed

[ivory pagoda]

one can hope its possible that it could be pushed back to july depending on how far they are in production

but they probably will want to market it so im not sure how long the marketing will take

[white trail]

Name test

[buoyant solstice]

Denied.

[shell monolith]

😂😂

[sinful anvil]

this probably got asked a shit ton, but any chance orders will roll off earlier than the expected time? it pretty much looks like everything is done besides the zinc cases (specfically raw one)

[buoyant solstice]

Unlikely

[red heart]

testing needs to be done first

then first test production probably to see if any issues come up

then the whole batch would need to be produced with qa to make sure everything is fine for the final release

probably more steps i dont know about

[sinful anvil]

yeah i suppose that's right too

[red heart]

new products take a lot of work to be made

and time too

[nova nexus]

It's possible, there is extra time in the estimates for the (likely) case where "something" happens to push things back

[meager quail]

thats good case senario

[nova nexus]

Experience has taught us to expect the unexpected

For example, we will not be surprised by the Spanish Inquisition

[sinful anvil]

appreciate the response

one more thing, I assume the 80he is the flagship keyboard atm from the way its branded, what are in short the key differences between it and the 60he in terms of build quality? performance wise i don't really care about 8khz polling

[meager quail]

any company aim to best quality possible brother

doesnt matter what product

[nova nexus]

I'm not exactly sure how to answer that with respect to build quality. I define quality by a product's adherence to the specification, and we do quality assurance testing to ensure that the percentage of units that are out of spec (have a major or minor defect) for any given sample are below the given critical control limits.

[sinful anvil]

ah maybe i didn't phrase my question right, what i meant was, what are the differences in terms of the keyboard's build itself, like is it the same as a 60he just in 80% form or are there any other changes?

[nova nexus]

Ah that's an easier question to answer: the 80HE is gasket mounted instead of tray mounted.

https://youtu.be/TbC4UpRDf48?t=148

[sinful anvil]

interesting, sandwiching between the pcba plate and the switch plate gives a better sound i assume?

since it'll be dampened

[jade widget]

Both sound and feel will be different

[chrome vine]

also the 80he comes with updated switches with tighter tolerances and such

as well they did a bunch of factory "mods" that people typically did to the 60hes and such, like the silicone, pet film, poron pads under the stabilizers. the stabilizers are a new type of screw in stabilizer as well

[lapis galleon]

lekker v2s are mostly unrelated to the 80he and all boards will be updated to include them

[chrome vine]

sure, eventually

[chrome vine]

but for someone asking what the differences are of the boards right now

[sinful anvil]

much appreciated

[wispy trellis]

what is crazy about that? it's actually way less than you usaly expect

gasket mount? its very commen and ppl showed that even in a gaming keyboard it's asked..
8k polling? i bet nobody can feel the real difrence to 1k at least 99% of the userbase
lekker v2 will be available for the older keyboards too

in the end the only real difrence is the polling gasket and layout

[jolly tangle]

You haven't seen everything yet

speaking of hard and software

[wispy trellis]

does it matter for the fakt that with the current state its just a logical step forward and nothing crazy about

[fallen epoch]

[wispy trellis]

ssounds for me pretty much like fanboy speach i mean honestly i bought it but its nothing crazy

[jolly tangle]

thats an opinion only you can make

[tight cypress]

What should we expect then?

[wispy trellis]

rappy snappy, improved switches -->nothing he80 spezific and the rest is long established in the keyboard community its like mandetory for a good keyboard nowadays;zinc case is extra

look i say it's a good pakage else i wouldn't hafe a blue role# right? but its nothing world lifting

[lime aspen]

Not a single person on planet earth can feel 1k to 8k polling on a keyboard

[wispy trellis]

mayabe but if i wrote that a discussion with someone would hafe startet that he can feel it and that discussion is no win for my argument 😛

[lime aspen]

Yeah you can't beat placebo lol

[wispy trellis]

anyway back to the "hughe" changes of the he80 it's a TKL ' ish version of one of the GAMECHANGERS of keyboards.. there are 2 options atm wich are interesting keychrons q1he and the 80he keychron has more experiencee for the keyboard enthusiast but 0 when it comes to halleffect switches

therfor i decided to trust wooting wich literly managed to stay ahead of the competition eventhough the competition tried to copy it wich is quite an amazing feet

but im sure the q1 will hafe the better gasket q1 is amazing with that but i hope the gasket of the 80he rocks

Gasket mount, metal case, PET film, poron pads that's all quite normal right now.. (at least in the 300€ class of keyboards)

what builds my trust is that wooting builds the software knows what they are doing with HE Switches and after my cry about the missing knob i actually start liking the layout

[winter coral]

I now prefer to invest my money in western companies + Japan + Taiwan again. This mentality of „learning“ from others is getting a bit out of hand for me.

Based on that the Q1HE is a nogo

[jade widget]

Enthusiast keyboard community has actually moved away from gasket, lots of top mount keyboards at the moment

[verbal solar]

Is it worth waiting for the 80he, or should I just get the two he? Or is there something that is way better? I don’t need an insanely good keyboard (I‘m bad).

[wispy trellis]

you relise with that question a 20€ cherry keyboard would be enugh??

[verbal solar]

But I want the analoge switches for trackmania

[wispy trellis]

if that's all you want get a cheap 60he used 🙂 If money is a issue

[verbal solar]

Money is not the issue, it’s just that I don’t want to wait to get a really small upgrade( 0.125 ms latency instead of 1ms is not an reasonable upgrade).

[wispy trellis]

than just get a new wooting in whatever layout you like most ppl want tkl that's why the hype

[verbal solar]

Thank you

[tiny tartan]

i agree. decide which layout you like the best

[wispy trellis]

smaller keyboards =more space for the mouse; most pp miss arrowkeys with 60% layout some miss Functionkeys

[tiny tartan]

i was gonna buy a two he instead of 60 because of the arrow keys
but i'm already tired of full keyboards so i canceled two he and bought Wooting 77.5 instead

[hoary quiver]

dont forget the new switches

[wispy trellis]

not mentionworthy since you surely can buy them after he80 comes out

even for cheap since a lot of ppl will sell their switchpack 😛

[dense ledge]

what's the biggest difference between the lekker switches and the jade switches

[wispy trellis]

sound + less range of motion

[hoary quiver]

some people say jades sound "better" but its obviously personal

[serene hound]

How do I cancel my order?

Email?

[hoary quiver]

email

[wispy trellis]

you don't you ask somebody if he wants it and then either give it to them for the amount of money or a little bit extra 😛

[serene hound]

Tyty

[wispy trellis]

they offer transfer of orders

[hoary quiver]

also there is an option in hub.wooting.io "contact us"

i would do both

[serene hound]

Well I'm not 100% sure yet, I'm just asking because the raw case is ugly, if it's possible to downgrade then I'm probably going to do that

Like to a pre-built*

[wispy trellis]

just write wooting; manson mentioned that a tausend times her i think 😛

[hoary quiver]

i think some woothelp guy said you can ask them to change your order

[dense ledge]

does someone knows a site for french iso keycaps ? some told me that PBT keycaps are better and the wooting one aren't pbt keycaps

[serene hound]

Through email? Btw how much was a pre-built?

[hoary quiver]

try writing "france pbt keycaps"

[serene hound]

My brain isn't 100% so sorry for the second guessing

[hoary quiver]

check it on the site bro

[serene hound]

All right I'll check right now, thanks again

[hoary quiver]

no problem budy

buddy

[dense ledge]

generally cherry keycaps are better for gaming no ?

[hoary quiver]

cherry is a profile of keycaps(diff shape)

[dense ledge]

ik

[lilac perch]

https://deltakeyco.com/collections/keycaps

[dense ledge]

it's also personnal so ?

[hoary quiver]

yeah just like colors

[serene hound]

Hm m mmmm

I see raw no longer an option

Interesting...

Idk if I want to cancel now

Lol

[hoary quiver]

it still is but its only for a module

[serene hound]

Yes

[hoary quiver]

and it always was

[serene hound]

I see, my phone was just bugging out

What do yall like more Frost or regular black?

Meant ghost*

[wispy trellis]

Ghost > Frost (i don't like both much) but a dark shell wich is translucent is imho better than a white shell you still se all rgb through but it looks better without rgb

[crimson shell]

so generally how long does it take to ship a wooting keyboard?

[ivory pagoda]

only thing i liked was the unpainted zinc with the white keycaps

but im not sure if it was an option to choose

[serene hound]

Yeah it's cool looking but requires buying a module version, I just want a nice gaming board at this point so I want to change my order

If you like that aesthetic then I would go with that for sure

The ghost does look really cool now I look more at it

[hoary quiver]

check it in your check-out

[crimson shell]

how do i pay for express shipping if i alreaady ordered it on standered?

wait when does the wooting 80he actually come out bc it says pre order

[cunning gust]

late august is the date i have for delivery on mine

[pseudo parrot]

Earliest current estimates are July / August. May be delays not sure yet

[crimson shell]

ik i seen that but im not tryna wait tha long how do i cancel my order ill js get the other one

[pseudo parrot]

Standard / expedited shipping only takes in effect when the package is in the couriers hands. So you would still have to wait til July / August / however long it takes for the board to be ready for shipment at the warehouse

[crimson shell]

okay well how do i cancel my order ill js get the other keyboard

[pseudo parrot]

Email [e-mail] stating you want to cancel. Just use the mail you used to order when contacting them, speeds up things

[hoary quiver]

bro do you even read what you clickin? 💀

[crimson shell]

nah lmfao i didnt realize it was pre ordered bc it said order now but then i realized after i did it i thgought it was like already out etc

[crimson shell]

okay'

[hoary quiver]

na?

[cosmic needle]

If you order now you might just wait over September. Even the last few founders got early September

Im in the September gang 😭

[pseudo parrot]

It’s ok at least you’re one of the founders

[rose bolt]

Hey everyone, nice to meet you all!

Im starting my journey on the customizable keyboards with the wooting 80he

I'm based in Portugal, so I bought the ISO layout but I'm looking for good PT-PT keycaps

Any one knows any?

[red heart]

Get blank iso keycaps itll make your life a lot easier trust me

Finding international iso layouts is a nightmare

[crisp jungle]

blank keycaps are so clean too

but some people need legends :(

personally i really enjoy puddings as a decent option

[jolly tangle]

https://www.kromekeycaps.com/collections/portuguese-keycaps

these will work

a better option would be to switch to ansi

[jade widget]

True ANSI is just objectively better

[low token]

Agree

[silent comet]

I’m not sure if I’m in the minority here but I would rather they add a coating to the raw zinc alloy case to prevent corrosion instead of actually leaving it “raw”

Raw could just be referring to the color of the polished metal and not actually being raw

[jolly tangle]

check the last video in the pins

[silent comet]

Yupp I saw it, the raw zinc they showed doesn’t look great imo

[mortal crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[glad meadow]

feel the same

[jade widget]

Think he means they mention they're adding a coating to it to make it look better in the video

Also for corrosion resistance

[tiny tartan]

y'all like the new black zinc?

surprised they didnt poll that

[silent comet]

Yeah in the video he says that the sample they have already has passivation and has been polished yet it still doesn’t look great. The only thing missing is the bluing so I’m hoping that makes a big difference but we will see. Seems like a difficult process though so I don’t blame them, just expressing my thoughts on what they have so far

[ivory pagoda]

i liked the raw zinc

prob the only thing id consider getting imo

[jade widget]

I kinda dig the the more industrial look of the raw but in the comments they also say they will do a sandblasted version and probably do a poll to see what people like more

[hard vale]

nah i thought it would look smooth like in the pics but they done switched up and made it grainy

i wonder if i can swap black zinc to white

[tiny tartan]

yeah i dont know if i like it or not.

[worthy wigeon]

The raw zinc was horrible. White zinc was way better

[umbral locust]

you can

[winter coral]

Me neither…hoped for smooth surface aswell. Looks like steel from NZXT case.

[tiny tartan]

yeah idk...

and its finalized 💀
we dont get a say anymore i guess

[velvet bear]

i dont see the issue

[tiny tartan]

the issue is not making a poll for the people to choose which one they prefer

they originally showed a clean black not this

[lime falcon]

this looks way better than just smooth surface

[velvet bear]

real

[cunning gust]

this is the black zinc? where was info posted

[tiny tartan]

you are missing the point. if they originally showed this version of black zinc and then said oh we decided to go solid black it finalized

its pretty ass to do that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSCcVL1qAik

[velvet bear]

well you have the option of canceling ?

[tiny tartan]

yes and the vid i posted

[velvet bear]

if its that big a deal

[cunning gust]

oh didn't they say it wasnt finalized in this

[tiny tartan]

once again you are missing the point.

[cunning gust]

ic ic

[tiny tartan]

they said they finalized the black case

[velvet bear]

mkmk

[valid comet]

im honestly fine with either way

[jade widget]

Post it in #1141096226884956181 they can always change/poll it if enough people don't like it

[midnight iron]

Yeah just post in feedback and see what other people think. Although realistically I’d wager not enough people really mind about grain vs smooth and are probably fine with either

[desert quest]

I personally love that the black zinc is slightly metallic and textured. Otherwise it would look just like the black plastic case, wouldn’t it?

[midnight iron]

Yeah there’s a lot of preference here. Just like how some folks love the raw and others hate it

[desert quest]

That‘s true

[midnight iron]

I’d wager the older crowd tend to like the raw more than the younger crowd, but that’s just a guess

[umbral locust]

I wish they'd release those stats after the launch

[jade widget]

What're you trying to say

[umbral locust]

old people be raw dogging life

[jade widget]

My runescape accounts older than some of the people in this server

[lime falcon]

only boomers like raw zinc

hes trying to say

[jade widget]

Just been through more phases now we onto more refined tastes

[midnight iron]

Need that year 1 steam icon and you appreciate the raw zinc for sure

That first year steam badge definitely older than some posters

[green sandal]

will there be a aluminum case for the 80HE?

[lime falcon]

there is zinc case

[green sandal]

I know

[lime falcon]

Doubt there will be alum case from wooting, but there might be from 3rd party

[green sandal]

oh ok

[fair pike]

man, I really don't like the direction of any of the zinc alloy finishes : ( I wanted something matte and they really want them shiny or the white looks like it's having a lot of issues...

[stable lodge]

hello , how do we get our commercial invoice?

[valid comet]

ikr

[midnight iron]

Isn’t the current ones kind of matte? None of them are glossy

[fair pike]

Watch the video - they are pushing the black for a more shiny finish, the white is painted and looks like lots of QC, the raw is shiny as well...

i have the concrete color of the alumaze fo rthe 60, really hoped to have something clean and not metalic and shiny for the 80 😦

[midnight iron]

Shiny is different from textured though

You’re mixing up the 2. They’re going for grainy finish, not shiny

The only shiny one would be the raw, which is to be expected since it’s just raw metal

[fair pike]

I was really hoping for more of this - anyway. I'm just voicing that I'm bummed

[midnight iron]

Those are not accurate renders as have been stated

You will not get that so if that’s your goal I’d email them to change color

[fair pike]

I'm just going to cancel the Zinc Alloy tbh and get a plastic, none of them look great.

Just bummed that none of them ended up in a place I'm into

[lime falcon]

you shouldnt trust those renders

[lime falcon]

this is black zinc

[winter coral]

Looks Like the Steel from NZXT

[digital elm]

They said that they are now working on White case and finding a method to have every case look great and have as little QC problems as possible

[toxic zephyr]

yep I'm also kinda not a fan of the finish on the black zinc alloy, it looks too much like what was said about the pc case sheet metal

with the texture it reminds me of flimsy steel sheets and that's not a nice connotation to have

then again I didn't buy it to begin with so not my horse

[ebon sluice]

that's lowkey entering MatrixLabs legendary textured coating - shit is good imo https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059046240903508050/1117345414467813456/3.jpg?ex=662fec42&is=662e9ac2&hm=aabf03b27efadce63ef8aa3f5031ba7fbf00cbdeec15fd6cc8bc54fcda17aa8f&=&format=webp&width=876&height=1314

[toxic zephyr]

sidebar: holy shit I hate that layout; no winkey (unusable) no f-row (TKL-width without TKL benefits)

[acoustic jasper]

not everything is about function

people like the look of blockers, thats also what was voted on for the 80he arrow cluster, slide to the right and added a blocker

[umbral locust]

no f row is a win for me.

I do need my win key though

[acoustic jasper]

yeah same, when i was using my hhkb, i just had to rebind one of the alts i dont use to a window key

[toxic zephyr]

yep just for me completely insane design considering you gain nothing by dropping thn f-row

[umbral locust]

yeah it just feels stupid not to have one, why do I need multiple controls and alts but no win?

[umbral locust]

I gain nothing by having the f row. Different strokes for different folks and al that

[acoustic jasper]

slimmer profile like a 60/65%

nice for those who want a 60 look with proper space for arrows and some nav keys

[toxic zephyr]

does not compute for me

[umbral locust]

60% with arrow keys is perfect layout for me

[acoustic jasper]

yeah thats exactly what it is lol

[umbral locust]

dont need nav, don't need frow, don't need right side control or alt buttons

[acoustic jasper]

preference so wtv

This is a board with no negative space/blockers, just all the keys of a tkl bunched up

[midnight iron]

get thee behind me satan

[jade widget]

75% 🤔

[acoustic jasper]

only reason i bought it was because it had rt with topre style switches 💀

my "80he at home" till my 80he comes home

[lament vapor]

yeah it looks a lot different than what the website showed

but imo the raw zinc colour from the video is still nice

[spark hound]

Spacing is nice. Allows for feeling where you are

[lament vapor]

Honestly I do fw the black ngl, it just matters what people like

[acoustic jasper]

yeah thats a nice benefit i didnt think about lol

[lament vapor]

I do think the sound of zinc sounds the best over plastic and in terms of looks the plastic ghost looks cool asf too

[spark hound]

I currently have a keyboard like that, the keychon k3. It's a bit cramped

[acoustic jasper]

need to hear a soundtest without foam in the zinc case, might have some nice resonance to it

[toxic zephyr]

blockers are ok, just don't remove the most useful key for them lmao

[ebon sluice]

this reminds me of a pizza with everything topping you can fit in

[umbral locust]

what the f row does to a pizza

[dull crater]

Hello,
I have a question about the pre order that maybe some of you already said earlier but i wasn't in the server.
What's the real pre order date here ?

[buoyant solstice]

The one in the blue field. And still an estimate, not a guarantee.

[dull crater]

Sorry if its the wrong channel but i want to order this keyboard since its almost a tkl like i want

[upbeat berry]

the date on the 80he product website is the general date (it doesnt have any awareness of sold stock or such) while the other one (with the blue field) has awareness of stock in your region and your shipping country etc

[dull crater]

So i should trust more the one in the blue field. Ok thanks a lot for the anwser. Im rly happy that the team made this model since the 60HE is too small for what im doing with the keyboard.

[red heart]

I think about 30000 other buyers aggree

[upbeat berry]

well it is still just an estimate and can move forward/backward so dont take it as a guarantee

[dull crater]

Lets hope its gonna be earlier so i can maybe have it for my birthday 🙂

[nova nexus]

There were 3 units of one of the JIS layout options still available for purchase out of the first batch, that's why it still showed July delivery on the product page - there was a version that could be part of that first batch.

[upbeat berry]

yes still not region aware though its a general display

[nova nexus]

I've added those 3 to the buffer stock, now the first batch is 100% sold and it correctly shows mid-August as the delivery expectation for the second batch

[craggy nest]

Because I see people voicing opinions, I just want to say I ordered the black zinc based on the latest update. I loved how it turned out. Just solid black paint didn't look right to me.

[nova nexus]

The product page is both region aware and stock aware

[dull crater]

Oh and another little question if its not bothering anyone but why in certains layout, keycaps are not avaible on PBT and only on ABS ?
Im brand new to the world of keyboard and i heard that PBT keycaps are better than ABS ones

[red heart]

Cause molding costs a lot of money

[tight cypress]

PBT keycaps are available for ISO-DE, ISO-UK and ISO-NR layouts
And come by default with ANSI

[dull crater]

Okay thanks. Mine would be ISO-FR but its fine. Its pretty hard to find ISO-FR keycaps as we using a weird key placement

[buoyant solstice]

Because PBT moulds are incredibly expensive to make for a new language compared to ABS. So fewer options.

[dull crater]

Im just gonna wait 2 or 3 days so i can get my paid and then i will buy it.

[icy cosmos]

Which materias is better? PBT or ABS? some swear by GMK ABS while other worship PBT.

[buoyant solstice]

https://wooting.io/post/abs-vs-pbt-what-are-the-best-keycaps

[red heart]

Gmk abs is good because the quality of gmk keycaps is really good. But generally, pbt is more popular

[buoyant solstice]

ABS is easier to work with, PBT is the superior material.

[red heart]

Also abs can have more colors than pbt, so all this is just a function of what you prefer or think is more important to you

[icy cosmos]

Ok, I was looking for that. Superior material. . We all know that you can´t have everyting in life..

[buoyant solstice]

The trouble with PBT is that it is not easy or cheap to make moulds for. And a company like GMK are spitting out tiny one-off productions with different designs all the time.

If they changed to PBT, some designs wouldn't be possible - or become much more expensive. And you probably already know how pricy GMK sets can get 😄

[toxic zephyr]

it's weird how the chinese can make doubleshot PBT but "quality german producer" GMK can't because it's "too difficult"

[red heart]

They have pbt sets now

[wind tiger]

gmk does make doubleshot PBT tho

their typical sets are not PBT because that is what enthusiasts want lol

[buoyant solstice]

It's a question of scale and quality control.

[wind tiger]

also what classifies as "PBT"

dyesub, yea sure, doubleshot you rarely actually get decent materials with "PBT" caps

[buoyant solstice]

Dyesub also isn't a simple process, if you want more than a single colour and letter design. We went through hell and back to get the Take Control keycaps the way they are.

[toxic zephyr]

well pbt is pbt

and doubleshot pbt exists so

[wind tiger]

well, you did 5-side/full cover dyesub, which is already known as a headache

[wind tiger]

no all PBTs are a blend of some kind

nobody is making keycaps out of virgin grade plastics

[toxic zephyr]

I think everyone would rather take PBT doubleshot caps instead of ABS if all else was equal

[buoyant solstice]

Yeah that was my point. If you want something as complex as what GMK does with a lot of groupbuys, dyesub isn't a simple process anymore. 🙂

[toxic zephyr]

it's just that everyone has some kinda massive copium about GMK and it being too difficult apparently

yet, like I said, plenty of manufacturers make it just fine so dunno what the deal is

[buoyant solstice]

because it is

If you look at the clones of popular GMK sets, you'll see exactly why it isn't a simple process. Getting colours right, making sure the letters and everything are consistent and crisp.

[wind tiger]

nope, they sound very different, and in most cases I prefer the sound of ABS

[buoyant solstice]

Also group buys are a tiny part of GMK. It's more of a saturday hobby for them than a main business. Their main bread and butter are spitting out millions of identical keycaps en masse for mass production, not "Oh we'll have five ISO NORDE, fifteen DE and 123 ANSI of this particular design, your team spent months on and off getting right"

[wind tiger]

also decent doubleshot PBT (with both shots from PBT) is basically not a thing outside of MTNU

[wind tiger]

keycaps are actually a large part of their business now

[buoyant solstice]

The GB portion? That's news to me at least.

[wind tiger]

and GBs make out the largest part of that

[toxic zephyr]

i dunno I have a 50€ chinesium PBT set that's doubleshot and I see nothing wrong with it

[wind tiger]

they do like industrial casings otherwise

[wind tiger]

they are not 2 shots of PBT, maybe not even 1 shot of PBT

[toxic zephyr]

and you know this how

[wind tiger]

because it is easier to not do that, aka it saves money, aka mor profit margin

also have not heard of any caps that actually are 2 shots of PBT

[toxic zephyr]

that doesn't mean your accusations are true though

[wind tiger]

aifei does not btw (I assume that is the kind of caps you have)

[toxic zephyr]

I have no clue bro

there are pics of my board somewhere in this dc, you can take a look for yourself

they were sold as doubleshot PBT /shrug

[wind tiger]

aifei also gets sold as gmk

[toxic zephyr]

"I don't believe it" hardly goes for proof though

[wind tiger]

yea I am not doing burn tests of what I suspect to possibly be POM

[delicate dagger]

meanwhile I'm trying to find good quality thick blank PBT keycaps in cherry profile and not having any luck

[ebon sluice]

Ranked blanks on Amazon are good and comes with a good tray. 21KB better quality but pre-orders and hours of fun arranging the profiles because they arrive packed in plastic bag.

21KB only in beige if you wanna match the sahara desert boots you wear on special occasions

[delicate dagger]

I saw the ranked ones on amazon here (sweden) but some reviews said they're very inconsistent thickness and sound hollow apparently so I am a little wary about them based on that...

[ebon sluice]

they don't sound hollow to me but then again, keyboard sounds tend to sail over my head these days

[desert quest]

I replaced my white zinc 80HE with the black zinc via email. Now I‘m in second batch. Is there anything I can do to be back in first batch or na?

[buoyant solstice]

Replaced how?

[desert quest]

I contacted [e-mail]. I had a order of first batch white zinc + white keycaps and asked to replace them to black zinc + black keycaps

[meager quail]

how do you even know what batch are you ?xd

its not saying anything

[buoyant solstice]

The hub should definitely state this.

[buoyant solstice]

Batch assignments aren't working for order edits atm. We're working on clarifying batches.

[desert quest]

The estimated delivery for my white zinc was early August. Now it‘s early September. Does that mean it can still be delivered early August?

[buoyant solstice]

It means "not certain - yet"

[desert quest]

Okay, would just be very nice if I „come back“ in the early August batch.
But thanks for you help

[rain bear]

question, what stems are the lekker 45/60 switches , MX profile?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. All of our switches are mx stem. Most are in general.

[rain bear]

[pliant goblet]

I wish my wooting came early, I can’t even pass 3 star

[humble cargo]

there's no guarantee you'll do any better with a wooting

[pliant goblet]

Better than this uwu keypad

It’s good but keyboard is superior to keypad

[meager quail]

why you insulting him

[sinful anvil]

are the 80he keys double shot pbt's ?

[buoyant solstice]

If you select PBT? Sure

[sinful anvil]

aren't the pbt's selected by default?

[buoyant solstice]

Depends on your layout and language

[sinful anvil]

just a regular ANSI pcr keyboard

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. ANSI prebuilts always have PBT.

[wispy trellis]

quality of shinethrough are usaly not that great ; but they are pbt doubleshot

[wispy trellis]

THATS eactly why im not going to change to black zinc alloy but order it seperatly 20€ more but i get a plasticcase in addition and there might be a chance plastic will be delivered more recently than alloy zink

[violet garnet]

early september?? I ordered zinc alloy in black, mine still says early august

[tight cypress]

Early September is for 2nd batch

[violet garnet]

that makes sense

[icy cosmos]

Looks Like the force is strong in this group. I mentally reedy for 1-2 months of delay.

[desert quest]

wait that’s so smart

[tight cypress]

We already got 2 months delay with Founders' campaign

[red heart]

[pseudo parrot]

the keyboard is just a bonus that comes with the best perk, blue discord role

[tiny quail]

how do you order a zinc alloy case separately?

[pseudo parrot]

you can buy them here
https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-zinc-alloy-case?Color=Black

[tiny quail]

👍

[zealous oak]

Can't wait to see how will the finished raw zinc look

[shell monolith]

Mine still says late July 😌

[pliant goblet]

mine is early august

i dont move into college until then so hopefully i get it before then and wont have to wait a weekend to pick it up at my crib

[rose bolt]

Thanks @red heart !

[rose bolt]

I never thought of blank ones, but... I like to have my letters 😦

[rose bolt]

Where can I get those puddings?

[rose bolt]

Thanks so much for the reference. I saw this ones, and should I assume that standard PBT is not double shot PBT?

[chrome vector]

any pic zinc white ?

[red heart]

Blanks will make it a lot easier to find usable keycaps but yeah having legends is nice every now and then

[red heart]

Watch the new video for the most up to date images of it

[chrome vector]

alr

[warm karma]

ik wooting is very busy atm but usually how long does support take?

[humble cargo]

long

[buoyant solstice]

Depends on what you're contacting us about exactly. 🙂

[warm karma]

i wanna change case color for my 80he (black to frost)

[red heart]

Since that is not a very urgent request it‘ll take a bit longer

[rose bolt]

Just noticed the Kromekeycaps material is doubleshot!

[buoyant solstice]

Yeah any 80HE order edits are on the backburner and low priority. We're working on a system to make these quick and efficient, so we can process all of these as efficiently as possible.

🙂

[meager quail]

do you sleep

xd

[buoyant solstice]

Sure. It's like 4PM here atm.

[nova nexus]

4pm nap sounds pretty good though, not gunna lie

[cunning gust]

I could use a nap

[fringe badger]

i think we all could use a nap

[tardy goblet]

I am so hyped for this keyboard. Autumn cant arrive soon enough

[upper cloud]

does the keyboard come lubed?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[rose bolt]

Have just found out about a site that builds you custom keysets, and also an online keyboard keycaps simulator to see how things will look. Here is what I'm thinking for my wooting 80he:
https://keyboardsimulator.xyz/?cc=f7fbfb&cf=brushed&colorway=cw_f2f2f2.333333-041629.f2f2f2-17fcc6.171718-ffce00.041629-ed008c.041629_ESC.3-GESC.2-F1.1-F2.1-F3.1-F4.1-F5.1-F6.1-F7.1-F8.1-F9.1-F10.1-F12.1-F11.1-BSLS.1-GRV.1-LEFT.1-DOWN.1-RGHT.1-UP.1-F.0-J.0-W.3-A.3-S.3-D.3-SPC.3-ENT.3-LGUI.1-LCTL.1-RCTL.1-BSPC.1-CAPS.1-TAB.1-LSFT.1-RSFT.1-APP.1-RGUI.1-RALT.1-LALT.1_cw-8y318_Hi&legend=cherry&size=80&sub=

[latent spindle]

What does the "%" mean? "But only got 77.5%"?

[red heart]

Its joke

[bronze ravine]

[latent spindle]

ah hehe thanks

There are no new sound tests on the zinc right?

[buoyant solstice]

https://youtu.be/kSCcVL1qAik

[verbal solar]

Is it possible to later on to just buy the zinc case and swap it out myself?

[red heart]

Yes

I am thinking of doing that myself

[buoyant solstice]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-zinc-alloy-case?Color=Black
Yep

[toxic zephyr]

because 80HE is referring to 80%, but the 80HE is in fact not an 80% keyboard since that would be a TKL

it's somewhere in-between of a 75% and a TKL hence the joke

[marsh canopy]

Do I just buy a 60he to wait for the 80 ?

[red heart]

I have a question regarding the cases you can swap around. Is the rgb diffuser built into the case or on the pcb itself?

Because in the video i remember there being a line where it was mentioned that the lighter color cases would get a different rgb thing than the dark ones

[meager quail]

why not both

i ordered 80 but thinking mb getting the 60 too

[red heart]

I bought a one to wait for the 80he

6 years worth it

[marsh canopy]

Already ordered the 80he 🤫

[red heart]

Instead of buying a 60he, buy really cool keycaps for the same price

[ivory pagoda]

money 😭

[hushed yew]

see u in late august

[cunning gust]

Can't wait for the actual tkl in five years

[red heart]

No, you‘re a few years late for that one

[cunning gust]

Har har

[buoyant solstice]

Almost a decade in fact.

[cunning gust]

So we are due for one

[red heart]

Decade??

[buoyant solstice]

Yes - The 80HE

[red heart]

The one didnt come out in 2014 🤨

[cunning gust]

I honestly feel kinda trolled the 80he exists and not a tkl

[cunning gust]

Still bought it but yeah

[buoyant solstice]

The 80HE is what replaces the One, which is a TKL.

[red heart]

Eh those few keys i wont miss

[cunning gust]

The layout is less elegant imo

[buoyant solstice]

It isn't for everyone, but it is what we're offering.

[red heart]

I‘d rather shave off a row of keys tbh

[pseudo parrot]

I really like the 80he, fits my use case well

But preference 👍

[cunning gust]

Yeah it's not a huge difference just not really balanced on the right I don't care a ton for aesthetics so it doesn't bother me much

I am kinda curious why they decided to do that instead of a more normal tkl design though

[verbal solar]

does the 80he not come with the strap 😦

[pseudo parrot]

It does not

[wheat vault]

is the 80he better than the 60he?

should i just wait for the 80he or just buy the 60he

[meager quail]

depends on whaat better means for you

[stuck atlas]

Does anyone have an 80he yet?

[meager quail]

wooting does

[stuck atlas]

oooh ok thanks

[icy cosmos]

Wow, elegant and keyboard in the same sentence. Never thought I see this day.

Majority of the keyboard are just like the smartphones. The look of Square bricks is hard to break off.

[buoyant solstice]

Not even. Cause it's all prototypes.

[meager quail]

he got what i meant

[rotund elbow]

So I’m looking into buying the 80he.. I’m curious if I should get zinc or plastic case.. if I go plastic will I regret not getting the zinc? How much weight does it add/how much does it change the sound? Thanks!

[icy cosmos]

You can find the specs on the website. For sound. Check out the latest video on Wootings YT channel. Also you don’t need to choose. You can add more cases . No need to choose only 1.

[cunning gust]

there is elegance in purity of form and function

[valid comet]

zinc will also come with a carrying case included, whether prebuilt or just the case on its own

[icy cosmos]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So you got 23355 people liking this particular design.

[cunning gust]

Popular appeal is hardly an indication of aesthetic quality

[rotund elbow]

[cunning gust]

but it's not bad i got one

[icy cosmos]

I understand what you’re coming from. But every year. This year’s IPhone is the best one Apple can make. So until there’s a better one out there. The 80HE will do.

[cunning gust]

The iphone is hardly a good example of best anything but sure

I'm just saying it's curious they didn't do a TKL layout

[icy cosmos]

Because it’s different then a TKL

[valid comet]

wym i like the black zinc alloy? its my favorite out of all the boards in looks and it comes with a case lmao

[cunning gust]

making something different just to be different is simply contrarian

[jade widget]

What if they did it just to make the TKL community mad

[rotund elbow]

im saying, that's nice

[valid comet]

i saw the copium thing infering to a different message lmao

[valid comet]

wym

[umbral locust]

80he is hideous

TKL or some kind of 75% layout would be better, instead we have offset arrows, incomplete nav cluster and a random led strip

Because it's a good keyboard and it's for using, not looking.

[icy cosmos]

But doing the same thing isn’t breaking any ground either. You’re just one of many….

[umbral locust]

But I can still admit it looks like ass lmao

[spark hound]

What you meant to say is:

i don't like the look of the 80HE

[umbral locust]

Yes, that much is obvious, I don't need to write a 5 page disclaimer when I share an opinion. Adults know what am saying.

[spark hound]

what you meant to say is:

Iprefer the TKL or 75

[lime aspen]

iPhone moment

[cunning gust]

this is a bad argument wooting has things to stand on besides doing random design to make something "unique" for no point

[umbral locust]

I actually don't.

I prefer a 65% lmao

[icy cosmos]

So, why do you think Wooting settled with the current design?

[jade widget]

Probably because internal staff like the layout and they make the decisions as to what happens 🤔

[cunning gust]

that's what i was asking

[buoyant solstice]

Whether they "got it" or not, it is an important distinction.

[icy cosmos]

That is sadly classified information

[buoyant solstice]

Because it's what we wanted to do. Calder and co. have touched on it many times during the campaign.

[cunning gust]

generally people have a reason for wanting to do something

[buoyant solstice]

See second sentence.

[icy cosmos]

Obviously no one is listening 🤔

[cunning gust]

it's a bit silly to expect people to watch a video a week on a keyboard

[icy cosmos]

Did you buy the keyboard?

[cunning gust]

yes, wooting has the best software

[icy cosmos]

You’re the blue people 😉

[valid comet]

i respectfully disagree, there are 4 keys I never use on a TKL which is my prefered layout over anything but they managed to make it genuinely perfect for me and idk how

[jade widget]

https://youtu.be/MgGJt99ZO2U

[umbral locust]

Different strokes for different folks.

I don't take it personal if people disagree.

[valid comet]

and that makes extra mouse estate

[valid comet]

some do and its annoying, just had to mention that just in case, thanks

[pseudo parrot]

lol i am in the same spot, matches surprisingly well for my use case

[valid comet]

i dont wanna do a case swap anyway

or plateswap

if anything its mostly light DIY acoustic and switch modding

rEAL

[umbral locust]

People can get caught in their opinions and egos. My opinion on the 80he is not part of my identity and someone disagreeing with my opinion on it won't hurt me, you know? Wild how personal some people take random shit sometimes. Obviously we all have our preferences kinda crazy some people expect everyone to agree with them lol

[pseudo parrot]

nothing wrong with having your own opinion, in fact i think its good we disagree sometimes. feedback is meant to be both positive and negative

[icy cosmos]

What do you mean? This is the culture elite you’re talking to 😅

[valid comet]

very nice

[icy cosmos]

It’s like comparing classic music to Jazz.

[valid comet]

yeah I agree its really funny when people start putting their egos into their products

[umbral locust]

Its a byproduct of the consumeristic materialistic society we live in.

[valid comet]

like if you dont personally like the 80HE for 1 small reason they take it so seriously like an attack

[icy cosmos]

It’s Fandom

[valid comet]

truer words have never been spoken

[pseudo parrot]

i use the products i want, dont really care what other people think

[umbral locust]

A lot of people don't buy a BMW because they like it, people buy a BMW because it means they are a certain kind of person and they are buying the image. So when someone disagrees on what the BMW image is or means, people are shoock.

[lime aspen]

Amen

[umbral locust]

Basically. Good to detach.

[wispy trellis]

in my whole live i never cared for that or understood why.. and i went vom seat to audi to mercedes to tesla.. all where polarising but the only thing i cared is that i liked it.. i don't think ppl are that shallow

[umbral locust]

I drive a somewhat fancy car. It was crazy when it was new but it's like over a decade old now and it's funny when people ask me why am not upgrading and I say because I love the car. I never bought it as a statement nor do I feel the need to buy a new car just to validate people that think I did.

I plan to drive this car into the ground, even if it's considered a peasant vehicle by that time.

[lime aspen]

This is exactly how I feel about people talking shit about my 06 Corolla xrs

Yes it's a Corolla, yes it only has 160hp, it's also a stick shift and it's been in my life since I was only a few months old

I love that thing it's a blast to drive

[icy cosmos]

On that subject. Many BMW fans complain about the current Pig 🐽 grill design. Guess what BMW responded. Make it even bigger with each model launch 🤣

[umbral locust]

Modern Car design in general is so ugly. Even the interiors are not safe.

https://tenor.com/view/hoblos-uhhh-uhhh-brother-brother-uhh-gif-1627688090339014668

I want knobs and buttons and levers, fuck it all being one huge ugly screen.

[cunning gust]

this is why i got a mazda

[icy cosmos]

this is a perfect example of manufacturers wanting to do something different. @cunning gust .

[cunning gust]

i mean, a lot of companies do stuff to just stand out but that's generally a sign of the brand being bad or art school marketing majors

[icy cosmos]

Bingo

[cunning gust]

wooting is industry leader in keyboard tech

[icy cosmos]

That’s why we got the aftermarket scene and modding culture

[cunning gust]

I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make

[umbral locust]

Mazda are good, I'm a fan.

[icy cosmos]

Just saying your perspective of Elegance and good design doesn’t resonate with the manufacturer vision

At least for this project

[wispy trellis]

Nope they didn't match the EXPECTATIONS - in hindsight its okayish -but ppl where expacting tkl or 75 explodet

[lime aspen]

Parents recently got a Mazda cx30 turbo

[cunning gust]

so it was obviously a concious choice to make it not TKL or 75% whatever i was just musing on what made them make that choice because just throwing something random to be unique is normally what companies in bad positions do

[lime aspen]

Fun little thing, actually handles quite well.

[cunning gust]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lime aspen]

It's a zippy little thing but it's governed at like 197kmh

Was funny hitting the governor the first day I drove it

[umbral locust]

Mazdas handle really nice. Even if it isn't actually, it gives the feel really well.

[cunning gust]

Mazda stuff seems to have decent handling in general

[umbral locust]

Mazda 3 makes you forget you are driving a mazda 3

[icy cosmos]

Mazda MX5 RX7/8

[lime aspen]

It's funny how our cx30 turbo can't go faster than my Corolla can, but can reach the governor before I can hit 150

[valid comet]

i realized that because wooting is making a new board what if there will be cuatom plates for wooting boards and then other boards and cases that use the same exact layout as 80HE

80HE is a huge hit so far

[cunning gust]

So i finally got a chance to look at the video and they don't really explain anything about why they picked the layout they literally say "it was a mistake" lol

i appreciate the honesty at least

[valid comet]

lmao

[cunning gust]

It's not like its bad it's just different for not really any discernable purpose to me

[valid comet]

honestly, thats ok, because it turned out to be their greatest mistake ever in my favor

[wispy trellis]

quite the opposite will happenbecause it's a unique layout very few will make 3rd party cases if even more than 1 or 2 ; the design itself is solid i think i just miss the knob that's all

[cunning gust]

the board has really nice tech which is enough for me

[lime aspen]

I don't like 80he layout, but that's why 60he exists, such a clean simple layout I love it

[valid comet]

fair but thats also because yhe 80HE isnt even out, so only time will tell

[cunning gust]

I would kill for a regular layout with everything right of the enter key cut off tbh I use my function keys too much but everyone has different tastes

arrow keys are nice for some games since i play old DRPGs anyway

[valid comet]

was more of a guess than anything else

oh hey guys I wanna ask for your thoughts on a mix of a mouse and kb combo

more from a visual/aesthetic standpoint

[cunning gust]

razer basi is the best looking mouse aesthetically if it didn't have the logo 🍿

although there could be arguments made synapse is a aesthetic blight

[valid comet]

black zinc and black magnesium lol

[cunning gust]

I am not a fan of the swiss cheese mouse look

[icy cosmos]

This is how design works. You can have the best designers in the world. But there’s only a few in a company that can make the decision on the final design.

[valid comet]

fair, I think it looks alright tho

[cunning gust]

it looks uncomfortable to me is the main issue i think

[umbral locust]

stormbreaker?

[cunning gust]

I can't imagine how much i would dislike the handfeel

[wispy trellis]

That's a mouse 😉 Buttons !!!!

[valid comet]

Beast X Max, the first to use the 3950 sensor

[cunning gust]

button bloat but otherwise not bad

[icy cosmos]

I have yet to see an elegant cheese 🧀 design.

[wispy trellis]

i need ALL the buttons 😛 i want to play POE without keyboard or diablo 😛

[umbral locust]

Agreed

[cunning gust]

fair

[icy cosmos]

Maybe AI can help

[cunning gust]

why not go for one of the "mmo" mice with like nine buttons on the side

[valid comet]

i mostly wanted a shape that worked for my that was nice and sturdy that had very good click latency and good wireless performance

[umbral locust]

I get lost in the sauce with those

[wispy trellis]

not ergonomic mostly to heavy very rarely wireless

[umbral locust]

I used a Naga for WoW for a bit and I just fumbled all my rotations

[cunning gust]

I see, i've never actually even noticed mouse weight and i've used some bricks it kinda boggles me that some people go ocd on it but marketing is marketing i suppose

[valid comet]

i dont really use macros

i just keybind to kb

[cunning gust]

anything after 2k polling is borderline useless and wireless latency is good now so companies had to find another spec to fight on

[umbral locust]

Marketing gonna market

[valid comet]

yeah for me the only reason I found the 8k polling good is for the clicks only, so Im able to run the clicks at 8k and the sensor at 1k (which is best for me)

[wispy trellis]

well i actually use a lighter one for shooter because a fast stop really improves aim and going long distance and than stopping 100gramm vs 60 is really noticeable but i don't go super expensive orochi is good and nice

[icy cosmos]

Pushing the boundaries is what makes us human though 😉

[valid comet]

the clicks arent like 125 microseconds but its more like 300 ish from what I coukd guess

which is insanely good

[cunning gust]

the theoretical latency improvement in this case will never be noticeable to a human

[umbral locust]

I feel like its way easier to stop a heavy mouse

light mouse just keeps flying

but i just got used to whatever mouse ive ever used, i just need it to be comfortable to hold, don't care for weight one way or the other.

[cunning gust]

heavy things moving at the same speed have more kinetic energy, they are in fact harder to stop ||i still don't think it's relevant with things as light as mice||

[wispy trellis]

try my old g604 wich has 140g vs 60g

[jade widget]

I'd say it matters more depending on the type of games you play

[cunning gust]

Kinda sad i never tried the g604 when it was a thing, looks comfy

[jade widget]

If you play tacfps id say it makes a pretty big difference, I don't see any pros rocking the g502x shapes

[wispy trellis]

one of the best (non shooter ) i ever had... and productiveity wise add backward forward copy paste ENTER and ESC on the mouse and you never go back specialyENTER 😛

[cunning gust]

is that because they are actually better or they get paid to market them though

[umbral locust]

sponsorships and fads

[jade widget]

I mean it's a logitech mouse that is regularly being updated

Many teams are sponsored by logitech

[cunning gust]

yeah logitech g502 is popular as heck but it's not a "shooter" mouse they use fps teams to market those doesn't really matter much but i don't think anyone except one of the top 50 best CS players in the would could tell me there is a difference and have me believe them

[wispy trellis]

for me currently the best available mouse is Roccat Kone XP Air but sadly Roccat went broke..

[jade widget]

You now own a TurtleBeach XP Air

[wispy trellis]

they took it up? i read they only take some products up

[cunning gust]

It looks like it's still available new on amazon at least

[wispy trellis]

there was a real ebay hype for new g604 when logitech stoped producing them

Kone XP Air was the ONLY +15 Button wireless mouse with good ergonomics so the only REAL replacement.. i just ordert it because my g604 died with double clicks and is not worth repairing 😦

[icy cosmos]

None of the high end stuff makes sense. But they’re there to push the limits of technology and engineering.

[cunning gust]

it's there so a marketing team has something to push in this case

[icy cosmos]

Hey that’s me right there 😉

[jade widget]

I just buy from cheaper brands like Pulsar and Lamzu now, get all that tech without breaking the bank

Also they tend to make shapes I enjoy more

[cunning gust]

anyone make g502 shape with the thumb rest?

[slate swallow]

hmm the display name setting is gone on wooting.io after i linked my discord for the 80he

[jade widget]

There's the basilisk v3

[cunning gust]

that's what im currently using but synapse is making me reconsider my life choices 😢

[umbral locust]

I'd rather be hospitalized than use anything razer again

That software is pure ass

[cunning gust]

Razer makes some okay things, i just hate synapse

[jade widget]

Yeah you're kind of stuck with razer or logitech. G hub vs synapse

[cunning gust]

😢 sad times

oh glorious makes one, it looks... not great

[viscid mason]

Anyone know where you can change your address for the 80he pre-order. I'm going to be moving at the end of May so I don't think I'll have it at my current address.

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

[idle depot]

Honestly go towards innovation when it comes to products sometimes things are a hit

[desert quest]

Hey guys, just wanted to give those who are interested an update about if the estimated delivery will change or if you end up being in batch 2 when you change your case color.

In the wooting hub it say's that I'm in batch 2 now with the estimated delivery of early September. So I sent them an email to ask if that's correct. I got this answer:

[viscid mason]

Ty

[buoyant solstice]

Don't put too much weight into the hub batches for 80HE order edits right now.

Currently all changed orders are dumped into batch 2, regardless of whatever buffer is available for batch 1. We're working on clarifying this.

[desert quest]

Thanks

[wispy trellis]

How is it going anyway where you guys prepared to get such a hughe order? does it screw things or does it even help because of coast er unit reduction?

sorry for the ping :(^^

[valid comet]

kinda why im going EGG or WL

its on board after making quick changes in the software

it can be closed right after not running at all

[lime aspen]

Sucks not having dpi button because you gotta open it to change it

Software is kinda ass but not needing to run it constantly is nice

[idle depot]

I don’t think any software needs to be open during use of the mouse

Are there mice like that?

[valid comet]

just set up some DPI and polling profiles and cycle using button combos

[cunning gust]

synapse needs to be running for lighting on the basi v3 at least

dpi and such saved on mouse, but not LED settings because razer is a horrible company

anyone know if the current g502 still comes with the nice metal scroll wheel?

looks like the wireless one dropped it ;-;

[valid comet]

yeah it does, the G502 Hero anyway

idk about the G502 Lightspeed, the G502 X, lightspeed and plus arent coming with as funny of a scrollwheel

[cunning gust]

i switched to the basi because it has better feet but synapse is a menace honestly cant decide what to do

[umbral locust]

Apprecaite the info. I sent support an email inquiring about this, hoping I can be put back into batch 1.

[valid comet]

fair

[cunning gust]

it looks like they improved the feet on the g502x but they changed the scroll wheel, there is no winning...

also only the wireless version has LEDs for some reason which is really strange

[rose bolt]

I have the 502x Logitech mouse and its amazing for CS2. Im no pro player but play CS since 1.1 (I'm old)

[tawny flame]

Anyone try the new viper v3 pro? I have the v2

[umbral locust]

Wrong Channel

[dawn flame]

Yup. Simple answer: better gpx

[jade widget]

these two mice are very different in shape

[valid comet]

i think rue was talking abt hardware and performance, not shape or coating, click sound, or feel, since thats all subjective

[jade widget]

mice are all about shape all the best mice have pretty much the same hardware and the differences are minimal between them, anything else is

[valid comet]

i know the 80HE can go as low as 125Hz but does it also do 250Hz and 500Hz? Sorry for the weird question

like most razer mice exclude the 250Hz option which i find weird from a pattern breaking pov

like 125, 500, 1k, 2k 4, 8k (no 250)

[tight cypress]

Tony said 125 and 1k #🌟│wooting80he message

[waxen turret]

Got my keycaps today :O. Now waiting for the 80HE design files to be available.

[acoustic jasper]

I’ve never seen any peripheral have a 250hz mode. Is there a reason you’re looking for that?

[valid comet]

not in particular, but for example the G502 does and other logitech products

[jade widget]

Mice from other brands let you manually set the hz in increments of 10

[valid comet]

interesting

[jade widget]

Actually that's not true I was thinking in dpi

[cunning gust]

i was gonna say

[valid comet]

my Q1 HE is here!

[merry current]

for the v2 lekker switches they will be coming mid august right?

💃

[valid comet]

mine is the Carbon Black

excited to get me the 80HE too!

[fast gazelle]

nice keyboard

[idle depot]

I feel like there is more than just shape mice can have going for them. I mean build quality for certain maybe dongles type?

[jade widget]

all very marginal differences when compared to shape

[lime aspen]

Shape and build quality are really the only factors when buying high end gaming mice now

[devout gyro]

[steady escarp]

Can you take pics of the switches?

I wanna see those KS-37Cs

[graceful copper]

could someone explain how rappy snappy works?

[crisp jungle]

when 2 keys that are bound together are both past their set actuation points, only the one that is pressed deeper will be output

[valid comet]

sure, They are KS-37B Gateron 2.0 Nebula Magnetic Dual rail

ill take a photo when im home :)

[steady escarp]

They swapped to ks-37c at some point I believe

[valid comet]

huh

they are 40-60gf

[acoustic jasper]

Ouuu let’s hear how it sounds

I was thinking of preordering that but I knew 80he was around the corner

[remote moss]

i still waiting 80he wt take too long to prepare the product

my 60he sold early, so I'm still going to use the ROG claymore RX for a long time...

[fair river]

that mouse has a lot of bandaid

[crisp jungle]

product QA, waiting for patents to come down, etc etc

[remote moss]

yeah lol

[crisp jungle]

holy grippy mouse o_o

[remote moss]

yy hands are sweaty, so that's all I can do

[valid comet]

the amount of abuse

[fair river]

https://www.audeze.com/products/maxwell-wireless-gaming-headset?variant=40094764990542 ogaboga me want

[valid comet]

why not sell the claymore and keep the 60HE? is it the numpad?

[remote moss]

yes，I need this for my daily office

[fair river]

https://www.audeze.com/products/lcd-gx a 900$ gaming headet. lol

[valid comet]

my hand decimated the coating of my mice in 3 days

that acidic my handa are

[remote moss]

You won't want to know this, there's a lot more than you think...

[remote moss]

Then you'll also need a mouse with a band-aid lol

[fair river]

that butterfly knife and m9 is already towering

[fair river]

surely u can afford that 900$ gaming headset

[remote moss]

Everyone has to have some hobbies, don't they? It's one of my hobbies, and it's worth it more than spending money on EPIC XD

I feel like my current gaming device is sufficient, and there is no need to update. Only the keyboard and mouse are still looking for the best fit

[fair river]

14900k 4090

shoulda gotten the 14900ks

[remote moss]

I wouldn't have downgraded if Intel was still insisting on updating HEDT, knowing that my last computer was a thread ripper and two 2080ti

[fair river]

ghost pinged!

[fair river]

jesus i wished I had that kind of monee

what chu thinkin about the 96core thread ripper

[remote moss]

My computer has a long replacement cycle, about five years, so I always choose the most suitable configuration for my purchase...

[remote moss]

Thread Ripper isn't suitable for any entertainment anymore because I have friends who still use it, and the frame rate is terrible, but it's a very cheap and easy option to use as a server

One interesting thing to do is that running the game on a thread ripper with a virtual machine is much smoother than using it directly

[fair river]

c-c-c-c-c-cheapp???!!

😭 imma go weep in a corner

[remote moss]

Compared with Intel's platinum series, AMD is indeed much cheaper bro

And ebay should have second-hand CPUs sold from the server dismantling, these will be cheaper

[fair river]

what defines as expensive for u

[remote moss]

Presumably my game account?

[fair river]

[remote moss]

computer is just a container

[fair river]

gimme yo container

[remote moss]

[fair river]

anyways nice chattin with ya

gn

[remote moss]

me too gn

[chrome vector]

80he zinc White VS zinc black

[violet garnet]

I got zinc black. it'll fit in with my setup better

[wind tiger]

well it is an LCD with a mic on it

[upbeat berry]

have to say i saw some people really dedicated to getting in a custom name

[pure girder]

@remote moss V me 50

[valid comet]

zinc black is nutty

[shell monolith]

Gaming open back headset? Sounds completely false to me, without an good amplifier or dac those are just not worth it on my opinion, alot of people said to me that sennheiser hd600 aren’t good for gaming but with my cobalt dragonfly they are worth it, I hear everything around me in a complete second which others can’t even hear in cs2

[buoyant solstice]

that's kind of the point

[shell monolith]

Still weird to me they made an “gaming” open back, unless you use it multi purpose

[jade widget]

i mean it's just a headphone with a microphone attached to it, that's all that makes it a "gaming" headset

[buoyant solstice]

Some of us like to hear what people are yelling at us - even while gaming.

[shell monolith]

I guess you’re right but i rather use my blue yeti for mic, cheap and very effective still after years

[lime aspen]

My blue yeti sounds like shit

[shell monolith]

Did you setup it good?

Like the right setting on the back?

[jade widget]

dynamics are a better options and cheaper, I don't even think blue yeti is sold anymore. Think the main reason the blue yeti was popular was because of the aesthetic more than the quality of the microphone

[graceful copper]

oh thanks

[wind tiger]

The yeti just isn't that great

And never was

[crisp jungle]

snowball mics never made any sense

[wind tiger]

The snowball was a lot better value at least

[crisp jungle]

no good application for its sound profile

[molten arch]

Open back sounds more natural/has a bigger stage, while closed backs have a synthetic sound, but boost steps/cover outside noises and let less noises escape.
So it really depends on what you play and prefer.
Otherwise its important to get drivers with a pretty flat curve/neutral sound and high directional precision, if you are a soundwhore in FPS games.

[shell monolith]

Yea open back is good but i meant for gaming is weird cause of noise bleed, cause if you speak with open mic or during the key u press to talk others will hear your game audio😂

[molten arch]

Oh, thats what ya meant xD

Yeah, thats an issue xD

I just run the mic over a hotkey and others gotta deal with it ;p

[shell monolith]

I had issues with my cousin, he said he hears my audio more than his own😂

[tame remnant]

NEED DA 80HE SOON... any got the metal alloy

[molten arch]

Define soon

[tame remnant]

like now

[molten arch]

Yeeee.. Not gonna happen

[tame remnant]

lol i know mid july

[molten arch]

Except u got a time machine

[tame remnant]

for that i just got grab a lottery ticket from the futuree

[shell monolith]

Time machine exists you just gotta sleep😝

A veeery looong time

[limber lava]

Wooting 80HE is my dream keyboard

I got the Apex Pro

It’s good, but I feel like the spacebar stabilizers sound and feel bad

I replaced the spacebar with the up arrow key whenever I play games to stop the rattling noise from occurring

And that the key is lighter than the space, so it feels much better to press

For me, it was such a silly idea at first, but it made me realize that I should’ve tried it out sooner

[icy cosmos]

You should try out Handball resin. Its much better than patching your mouse

[proven heron]

wootong support hasn't answered in 1 month am i cooked?

[vapid storm]

maybe, did the microwave ding already?

[red heart]

Send a follow up email

[icy cosmos]

No, you´re in cue. I waited 3weeks for my support ticket

[red heart]

What are you asking them to do

[proven heron]

cancel something in my order

[red heart]

Order edits are low priority because there‘s no rush to do it

Tho if you‘ve been waiting for so long, something should have been done by now

[errant torrent]

are we going to get a final side by side sound comparison between pcr & zinc?

[red heart]

Yes

[errant torrent]

and if so, is there an estimated date for it?

[red heart]

No but i assume not until all the colors for zinc are finalized to get the most accurate sound

[errant torrent]

would makes sense, true

[red heart]

You can get a rough idea from one of the recent videos

[errant torrent]

a bit, but its sadly in a different environment as you can hear from the echo/soundprofile idk how to describe :(

[red heart]

Yep

[dreamy sedge]

im more exicted for august then december and thats the month where i was born

[red heart]

I‘m more excited for august than december cause i‘m going on a trip with a whole lot of family i havent seen in a while and i really like then 🙂

[fair river]

u purple now

[buoyant solstice]

Again*

[fallen epoch]

No longer undercover again

[proper dew]

Purple suits you better

[toxic zephyr]

taking bets on how long mansen lasts: 1.12 for 1 day, 1.78 for 2 days, 2.43 for 3 days

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-ducktales-ducktales2017-house-of-the-lucky-gander-burned-gif-21467735

[cunning gust]

What's the over under on six hours

[real storm]

I'm almost at 1 month with no reply or change to my order lol.

[buoyant solstice]

80HE Order edits have been put on the backburner.

We're working on making these efficient and easy, before we process the bulk.

[burnt yacht]

It’s been so long, I only remember that I ordered the 80HE when I look at the wooting discord logo xD
Delete it from brain = nice surprise
3 months to go 🫡

[sharp wharf]

Is the wooting 80he still available to order? I actually forgot to put an order 😭

[upbeat berry]

yes

all that ended was the founding campaign not preorders

[sharp wharf]

Oh alright, thank you for the answer Tony!

[glad meadow]

https://youtu.be/o8QtisM58bY?si=RuNe0rznfwK8ZQXh

This is what i expect the raw zinc case would look like

[fickle flint]

Are the stabilizers that come with the Wooting 80he good? Does anyone already know?

[buoyant solstice]

Similarly or better? than the 60HE Module as far as I know.

[meager quail]

I wonder if more case zinc colors will come

Before they ship preorders

[nova nexus]

Not before, no

Too busy getting the versions we've already announced to market

[meager quail]

Wanted to change to zinc but those are boring

[hoary quiver]

does the zinc cases will remain in store permamently?

[buoyant solstice]

Permanently? Maybe not. But for the foreseable future, definitely.

[hoary quiver]

thats great to hear

[valid meteor]

is the Raw case fully coated right? I dont need to cerakote it or add any sort of finish? (unless i want to personally)

[wispy trellis]

That's a better roll - makes it more clear

[nova nexus]

The exact finish or coating is not entirely finalized but you won't have to do more things to it after you receive it

[wispy trellis]

is there some metal with that bluing as a picture? i mean not the case just some picture of a metal wich comes close to it would be Interesting to see

[meager quail]

Wish there was metalic colors

[wispy trellis]

i literly hate the 600.. but i love my Sennheiser HD 598 warmer sound not so nutral... but honestly the integreted soundchip of the motherboard is enugh Realtek ALC1200. i doubt i Can hear the difrence

[half ivy]

Hi! Just wondering what’s the light bar above the arrow keys. What’s the function for that?

[half ivy]

Thank you!

[graceful copper]

What switch are you going to use?

[wispy trellis]

I still don't get what the little twist is a led with colours... As long as its just light without a sensor i don't see a twist

[shell monolith]

Thats why i love my hd600, neutral sounds best for my ears

[wispy trellis]

Preferences

Like ~warm cold or neutral colours on monitors

[cunning gust]

I have the same opinion loved my 598 disliked 600 so much I sent it back

[wispy trellis]

The 598 are a hidden treasure so smooth sound it really goes well with my sense of good sound the 600 sound to metallic neutral unemotional

[toxic zephyr]

didn't enjoy 650 myself, too boring for me

nothing sounds hype on them

[ripe jacinth]

how long does it usually take for your order to come in?

like just generally, do they have slow shipping or what

[quasi crater]

i think so

[wispy trellis]

you Understand that the he80 is a preorder???

[ripe jacinth]

shit my bad I was talking about the two HE, the names confuse me lol

[barren shoal]

wooting60 Will the rate of return be updated by updating the plugin

[lime falcon]

do you mean 8k polling? no, it cant be updated with firmware

[river lance]

did anyone get theirs yet

[umbral locust]

no lmao

[bleak dust]

What，September? Not July? And the EU-Brug batch still opening?

[umbral locust]

second batch still has room

[bleak dust]

4 months to go? noooooooo 😦

[violet garnet]

it was announced 4 months ago. you're halfway there

[icy cosmos]

Didn’t you get the memo?

[wispy trellis]

my isp seems either to forgott to reduce my uploadspeed or added the reduction to 200mbit into the ont i just replaced the router with one with integreted ont and i get 600mbit upload NICE How about wooting forgetts the batch delivery and matchs this accordingly and send me the keyboard early? any chance? g

[nova nexus]

wat

[wispy trellis]

just trying out my luck today 😛 well it seems aAugust it is then :/

[buoyant solstice]

Unfortunately unlike you ISP (who already has the necessary fiber laid down to increase your speeds beyond what you pay for), we do not have any 80HEs to ship yet 😉

[wispy trellis]

oh well - you Can't hafe it all - well maybe it comes on my birthday wich is end of july but i doubt it usaly delays happen not accelerations - at least now im waiting even FASTER

[buoyant solstice]

Oh boi

[wispy trellis]

Whoever bought that costume deserves a medal, but they should have cut his hair too and dyed it blue. Doing him a favor!

[buoyant solstice]

Rumors say it was burned afterwards to avoid any genetic cloning.

[wispy trellis]

do i want to know what Happened to the coins?

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-really-want-me-to-answer-that-do-you-you-dont-want-sergeant-odafin-tutuola-gif-14148310

[foggy jetty]

Will we have spare keycaps for the keys above the arrows ?
For instance i would like to have : insert,del, home,end and get rid of page up and down.
As page up and down are prebuild I'd like to know if we will have spare keycaps for home, end

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. All of the "Missing" keys will be included. Pick your favourites.

[dreamy sedge]

i wouldve taken that costume home i have a friend whos into all sonic games and she would love that costume xD

[wispy trellis]

Is it Actually possible to make it so that the key will be aktivated on release only ? (with he switches and this it would be possible to double layer the keyboard keys with 2 funktions depending on how deep you press the key)

[upbeat berry]

yes DKS can easily do this

you get 4 points of interest which is start of press, bottom out, lift from bottom out and top of press

[wispy trellis]

that Actually made me understand why the 60% layout was so much used you can easy emulate f and arrow keys with that ^^

[upbeat berry]

for that most people use fn layer 1 or 2

or mod tap

[wispy trellis]

is there something like a demo to see the ui of the keyboard?

[upbeat berry]

https://wootility.io

the official configurator goes to demo mode if no keyboard is connected or you use firefox

[wispy trellis]

NICE:)

[upbeat berry]

the only thing the demo mode cant do yet is change the keyboard

but all functions are the same either way

[wispy trellis]

nothing a little bit "panzertape" over my monitor Can't fix to unsee the numpad HAHA

[upbeat berry]

the profile is technically the same either way just that it only maps to the parts the 60he has

[wispy trellis]

That's Actually quite awsome i like it - if you would provide demo for 80he and add the possibility to import it later that would be a dream - but im happy Already

[shell monolith]

Why isn’t firefox supported? I had to use edge to configure my uwu or is firefox only used for demo?

[buoyant solstice]

Firefox doesn't support the required USB protocol. Nothing we can do about that.

We offer an installable app.

[shell monolith]

Ah alright, i had no clue hehe but using edge was no problem

[fallen forge]

probably has something to do with being built on chromium

wonder if safari doesn't work either

[upbeat berry]

basically nothing but chromium (the browser engine chrome and basically any browser thats not safari, internet explorer or firefox uses) force USB HID as a "standard"

so only chromium browsers work like chrome, vivaldi, opera, brave, edge, arc and probably 200million more i have never heard of

[toxic zephyr]

everything is chrome except firefox or safari yeah

[upbeat berry]

well chromium

as chrome is a modified chromium

[drowsy badger]

Hello, do you know if a version of the pbt iso french keycaps is in progress?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. But no exact timeframe.

[drowsy badger]

Thx, I will wait while waiting for the sacred day

[wispy trellis]

qucik question you hafe 30 day return policy does it although count for parts? like keycaps switches or only the keyboard ? as exxample if i Don't like the keycaps can i send them back ? since they are listed Separatly

[buoyant solstice]

Anything you order from our website.

[nova nexus]

If it arrives in its own packaging

We sell ANSI-US PBT keycaps separately, but you can't return the ANSI-US PBT keycaps that come installed on your keyboard

(without returning the keyboard)

[wispy trellis]

makes Sense

[buoyant solstice]

[wispy trellis]

ISO DE will not come premounted

[wheat wadi]

what are the current look options for the raw zinc alloy 80HE version ? i would like it to look as "silver metallic" as possible and wondered in which way your blueing-process would effect that.

[nova nexus]

We're not at a final decision yet, but the last livestream had Calder showing samples if I recall correctly

[wheat wadi]

alright i will take a look

[buoyant solstice]

Livestream? No no. That was Erik by himself.
Last VIDEO from a few days ago

Literally the video where the term "blueing" was mentioned for the first time.

[nova nexus]

Was that 4 weeks ago then?

Time flies when you're having fun

[buoyant solstice]

[wheat wadi]

well felt like 2 weeks for sure. I will be a bit more patient 🙂

[cedar hound]

are there different approaches the community could chose from like before or is it more like trying to bring one specific approach to perfection?

[rose crane]

how is the name on the website is gonna look like? (founders campaign)

[buoyant solstice]

The design team has to make a decision.

On... on the finish

[nova nexus]

I'm not sure that there will be a particular community-driven decision opportunity for how the raw zinc will end up

[small rune]

Are the pcr version in the DVT phase already?

[nova nexus]

My assumption is that our industrial designers and leadership will make the decision to create the best possible product for the most people

[cunning gust]

Why not make the best possible product for me instead 🧠

[cedar hound]

us is fine but please think of eu

for me that's called being stoned

it is for me, but not for everyone

[humble cargo]

good stoned fun

[frozen tangle]

i really cant wait anymore for the 80he 😭

but its gonna be so dope,

[digital portal]

Yeah, I share that same sentiment as well. Really looking forward to it.

[meager quail]

4 months wdym 🥲

Late august for me

Yep but i might get the 60he

[digital portal]

I managed to get in the late July group assuming the date doesnt change due to unforeseen production related occurrences.

[dim sierra]

[humble parrot]

I thought it said july when i placed the order

Maybe even june

[true mirage]

Same here. My G910 is falling apart with the repeated key presses. I'm so tired of resoldering replacement key switches into it addition to the 16+ screws needed to open the damn thing.

[simple egret]

Locked in my 80! Can't wait.

[frozen tangle]

haha yea that is very unfortunate, that keyboard is ancient

I am in the september group 😦 the pain hits harder

[true mirage]

I actually do take care of my things and never eat at my pc desk but this thing with its romer g failsafe feature is so broken. Logitech should just stick to mice.

[lapis galleon]

logitech should just go out of business

[frozen tangle]

I was about to say Logitech's keyboards are overrated at this point with a really high price too. But then again there are better alternatives to the GPSL

[true mirage]

the 60 they put out made no sense when wooting exists.

[frozen tangle]

But I am very excited to be able to use HE switches and be faster generally

[frozen tangle]

yeah im so confused with this. Im not 60% user at all but still like

[pastel edge]

even though I think wootings makes the best keyboards for gaming by a longshot

there still are good reasons to purchase "lesser" keyboards

[frozen tangle]

what might those reasons be?

[pastel edge]

price, availability

[true mirage]

Agree at the price point of their 60, just get a wooting. At the features that i has, just get a <$100 keyboard

[lapis galleon]

logi certainly would not fit the price reason

[frozen tangle]

I was about to say no way the price is justifiable

[umbral locust]

A lot of people will buy it just because of brand recognition

[pastel edge]

yeah not talking about that board specifically, but I am sure probably would have legitimate reasons to buy it

[umbral locust]

or because. their favorite streamer/gamer /whatever is sponsored by logitech and they need a board

[frozen tangle]

its a $180 for their 60% and at that point with their tech and also how their keyboards sound

[pastel edge]

I know wireless is a big deal for a decent amount of people

[umbral locust]

most people don't care about sound and many don't know about tech, to them a keyboard is just a keyboard

[frozen tangle]

yea one of the primary reasons

but yeah i agree with the wireless capability, i would say for lan players they just need one logitech dongle with their G pro superlight and the keyboard it works

[pastel edge]

still, it'd be nice if that Logitech board was like 30-50$ cheaper

[frozen tangle]

but then again there are pros that are using the wooting

[valid comet]

oh yeah I dunno if this is the right place but someone asked me about my thoughts on the Q1 HE

[frozen tangle]

im curious about the q1 HE

[valid comet]

please direct me to the right channel

[valid comet]

Pro X 60?

[frozen tangle]

im currently using the q1 max but definitely moving to the 80HE for performance reasons

[pastel edge]

yeah

[valid comet]

that thing should not be more than $70 and thats pushing it considering how unserviceable it is

[nova nexus]

60HE in stock everywhere, all layouts

[frozen tangle]

that is true^

[valid comet]

But yeah I got my grubby mits on the Q1 HE I just need to know where a good place is to talk abt it

[frozen tangle]

can i dm you, im curious

[valid comet]

ye

[spark heart]

Super excited to see the ghost 80he

[cunning gust]

It makes me sad they have to kill perfectly.good 80he's for them 😢