🌟│wooting80he

[cosmic needle]

Let in vanish in ur bag 😏

[cosmic needle]

Just kidding pls dont roast me 😭

[proud parcel]

[lime falcon]

😳

[proud parcel]

[wispy trellis]

wow that case has a serious shine through; @proud parcel frost or ghost? looks like the dark one

[cosmic needle]

Yea looks like the ghost one

Which name did u guys choose to display on the founders list? Discord or first name?

[plain aurora]

disco

[bleak parcel]

Discord aswell for me

[wispy trellis]

obviously discord since first name is like a random name on a cup

[cosmic needle]

I was thinking about picking my first name, since it’s not that common. But I still choose disc in case some one would have the same name 😭

[wispy trellis]

anyway that name thingy is although not worth much

to many namens on a obviously inimportant webpage 😉

[cosmic needle]

Yea who could’ve known that the 80he founders go crazy like this

[humble cargo]

a lot of salty people initially

[wispy trellis]

all expected knob and explodet layout or tkl

if you don't match expectations that was happening i was the same wa of pissed

[daring axle]

i mean theres a decent case to be made that the 80% (or in this case 77.5%) is actually the best layout possible for a keyboard so it makes sense

[lime falcon]

yea I agree

80he layout is goated

[wispy trellis]

i would not say it's a bad layout (im blue afterall) but there is a new idea and its not a expected layout afterall

[daring axle]

i definitely found that the 75% was much better than the 60% and the full size is just too big so having the in between is really nice.

[wispy trellis]

i although thinki its better than tkl with all the advantages but i don't like the prominent led bar.. and the strong empty space over the right arrowkey and the missing knob

[lime falcon]

knob will be there

[wispy trellis]

if you add something later its never as good as planned by design

[lime falcon]

surely instead one of the buttons you can just swap with a knob

[daring axle]

i do agree a knob would be cool.

[plain aurora]

it is planned by design isnt it

got leaked really early on

[daring axle]

and i duno about the led bar. im not hard sold on it bit i cant see it being much of an issue. especially if you can add some functionality to it somehow

[lime falcon]

#🌟│wooting80he message

this is untameds idea, very interesting

[wispy trellis]

a small slim one like with the 75air would be more than enugh

[lime falcon]

if they make this would be cool

[plain aurora]

yea its kinda nice

only thing is you cant turn it infinitely

[lime falcon]

why would u

[daring axle]

im not terribly into the keyboard scene so take that as my disclaimer here. the led bar they showed in the videos so far doesnt seem to be very large in my opinion.

it seems like something that can function as a nice accent but not too prominent from what ive seen at least

[wispy trellis]

nupohy air 75 that's left and right some led bars small decent

[plain aurora]

sometimes useful if u rebind it to something else

[wispy trellis]

that led bar on the 80he is like in your face that's why i wished it was touch or something something more interaktive if it takes so much sopace

[lime falcon]

led bar is fine on 80he youre overthinking

[plain aurora]

what if they made a quad sized knob

like that one keyboard

[daring axle]

i dunno. if youre going to have ones that small why not just go with backlighting from the pcb itself at that point?

[plain aurora]

would need to be powered if it had a display though

[daring axle]

i feel like at least with the community dev the one on the 80 is at least big enough to have some functionality at some point and be something you can reference at a glance. it looks big enough to be visible and stand out a bit but not enough to be distacting.

[wispy trellis]

the thing is it's a new layout deisng with quite some good ideas smaller than tkl almost the same amount of buttons no explodet arrowkeys usability of almost all keycapsets without trouble all good points

but since its new it has some quirks as example the bad spaced arrowkeys wich they corrected

[prisma fjord]

Community grown A LOT since last founders campaign so that's predictable that there would be a lot more founders than before not even talking about the size format of the board that fits more people than 60%

I think there could be even more founders if estimated delivery was a few months earlier

[lavish yacht]

I wonder if it means shipping is gonna be a lot more rough this time around due to the insane increase of pre-orders on their plate

[cosmic needle]

Yea it was expected to be more, but almost 25k ppl is extra ordinary

[prisma fjord]

yeah but look at this graph 🤓 it's search interest on the wooting from google trends since 60he founders campaign end and now. It was only 10% of peak that we had on 80he campaign start

[icy cosmos]

Time is not the problem. People don’t like uncertainty. Majority of the questions here is about the colour, design, feel, texture and functions. The upside of the current approach of preordering without a final design is the flexibility to adjust things right up to production. The down side will be to earn the trust of people who would like to know what they’re buying into.

The Apple way is the best there’s. Build a cult, then wow them with marketing 🤣

[prisma fjord]

It is, the thing you r talking about majority of questions are from people that already bought keyboard and don't mind waiting or people that are going to buy and don't mind waiting. You have a great idea to determine the reasons by the questions in Discord you will not see the question when the keyboards will start shipping because it is already answered, the site says when the keyboards will start shipping, people just gonna go and buy another keyboard if they don't want to wait. As an example of people that could buy 80he and didn't you can literally take me, I did not bought 80HE only because I do not want to wait at least 4 months to get it, I just bought a different keyboard that I have to wait only a month to be shipped

[soft quarry]

what long

[nova nexus]

I spy with my little eye, precisely when BadSeedTech released his review of the 60HE

[jolly tangle]

I spy keycaps that are not for sale in some stinky warehouse

[nova nexus]

I feel attacked xD

[jolly tangle]

XDDD

[nova nexus]

You tryna cop the black/white ones or the blue/navy ones or the pink/white ones?

[fallen epoch]

Why not all of them

[nova nexus]

Hmm good idea

[oblique veldt]

I want black and white keycapsss

[oblique veldt]

leaked!!

[nova nexus]

Shhh don't tell anyone

[oblique veldt]

ok

[pseudo parrot]

oh wow i kinda like it

that black wave is surpsingly nice

[frozen cobalt]

hello for the 80he is there going to be a 3rd party case that supports it?

[nova nexus]

Perhaps eventually but not so far

[frozen cobalt]

ok gotchu

[red heart]

you can make one

[lime aspen]

Those black and white ones look nice

As is the pink one

[rose crane]

guys

i hate to say this but, is it possible to change the case to white of my 80he

[meager quail]

YOU bought the module?

if yes try to contact support or some

[rose crane]

because of this

[rose crane]

pre build

[meager quail]

only module has frost

[dense ridge]

zinc has white

[proud parcel]

I got 2

Tiger n lion

[rose crane]

dammm

i got lion

1

[normal bay]

what app is this?

[proud parcel]

shop

[rose crane]

shop pay?

[proud parcel]

YEAH

[weak kraken]

I got 5 Tiger.

rawr.

[dense ridge]

i would also take one 🙂 but i cant play with any other mouse... only superlight

[tight cypress]

You'll get an e-mail if you want to confirm cancellation. Just answer you've changed your mind, and don't want to cancel

[buoyant solstice]

Send an email right away that you'd like to keep the order (or click the contact us button in the bottom left)

[lament saffron]

Move the blue to the bottom to make water with a wave then the pink is the sunrise in the upper left hand corner

[nova nexus]

Ooeh that's a good idea

[verbal solar]

What's the difference between module and pre build

Sadge I wanted the travel bag

And frost..

But didn't know if module is same as pre built

[buoyant solstice]

The module isn't fully assembled. That's all.

Gotta screw the PCB into the case.
The travel case is included with all zinc case purchases

[verbal solar]

But brings same stuff right

Still the frost v.v sadge

[buoyant solstice]

If you make sure to select switches and keycaps? Sure. Otherwise you'll have to bring those yourself.

[verbal solar]

I didn't choose keycaps anyways

I just wanted the frost tbh

But didn't know if module bringed all the inner stuff

[buoyant solstice]

It does.

[verbal solar]

Is it still possible to change?

I bought during founder event

Me likes the founder perks but me want frost case

I guess I should buy a frost case off somewhere

[meager quail]

if you have caps then i dont see reason to get them

[hearty sleet]

i also want the secound switch set to be different

[verbal solar]

Is the pre build hard to change the case or is it dismantle and reinstall everything?

[hearty sleet]

it will be fairly easy

[verbal solar]

Nah bro I want the founder flex perks

[meager quail]

same as not prebuild probably

[verbal solar]

I got the cutest pets in the world plus founder flex now

[buoyant solstice]

Shoot an email to [e-mail] and it might be possible.

[verbal solar]

It wasn't in the prebuilt options and i dun wanna lose my founder flex and shipping timers so i guess I'll buy a case later

[buoyant solstice]

Mhmm. Some cases are only available as loose ones for the module

[valid comet]

early august now, I just hope its not gonna be middle august

[icy cosmos]

Is there a Black/ white option for 80He?

[valid comet]

PCR ABS: Black, Ghost (translucent gray) , Frost (translucent white)

Zinc Alloy, Black, Raw, White

[pseudo parrot]

the take control set only has enough keycaps to fit 60% atm

[icy cosmos]

Sorry I was asking about the control keycaps

[icy cosmos]

Why oh why…

[pseudo parrot]

they look nice ikr, i would have wanted one if i didnt already decide on some other set

[jolly tangle]

gloucester on ca?

[valid comet]

all good thanks for clarifying

i saw tgis

earlier in chat

[glad fable]

bootiful

[icy cosmos]

Too good to be exclusive for 60he..

[proud parcel]

Canada Yes

[idle depot]

Wish they would do a verison for the 80he

[shell monolith]

Can we get an special numpad case keyboard like the uwu but for numpad in the future?

[umbral locust]

#1216240474663419995

[rose crane]

guys what keycaps looks good with the zinc case black with the new finalmouse tarik mouse?

just want to hear others opinion

[umbral locust]

black blanks

[rose crane]

this?

[umbral locust]

yup

[rose crane]

hmm okey

[mild granite]

If you want to match with the new tarik mouse, then I feel like white caps are a no-brainer

Maybe something like this, even

[rose crane]

but i got a black zinc case for the wooting

[mild granite]

The black zinc case wont match the tarik finalmouse anyways, you can just get some keycaps that make the case blend in with the background

[umbral locust]

get a black mouse

[rose crane]

hmm okey

[mild granite]

Or you can just get some black keycaps and the finalmouse can be it's own centerpiece

[lime aspen]

Get anything but a finalmouse

[lime falcon]

tarik smh

[rose crane]

but i love the tarik colour way tho

[umbral locust]

fr

[rose crane]

👍

[lime falcon]

why do you even get tariks mouse bruh

[rose crane]

colour way looks dope

[lime aspen]

But it's a finalmouse

[rose crane]

soo..?

[mild granite]

If you get a good copy, finalmouse are good

[lime aspen]

if

[mild granite]

They are good for what they are, but finalmouse are also liars and scammers

[rose crane]

i got good copy with batch 2 it works fine

[lime aspen]

It's a gamble for QC but if you wanna spend that much for a mouse ig

I'm assuming tarik version is even more overpriced

[rose crane]

well they said the QC issues is solved ig

[mild granite]

"they said"

[rose crane]

same price

[lime aspen]

They also said it would be 29g

They also said all of their mice had good QC in the past

[rose crane]

well cheeta is 29 grams

[lime aspen]

It's not, it's 31

[rose crane]

bruh 3 grams

[lime falcon]

2

[lime aspen]

It's still not sub 30g like they claimed

[rose crane]

yea true

[lime aspen]

Half the marketing for it was that it was below 30g, and they never actually got it below 30g without being so weak it would fall apart

[rose crane]

thats true

[lime aspen]

weighs less than a large strawberry

[rose crane]

bro the strawberrys in my store is like 15 grams

where do they find even the LARGE strawberrys

[lime aspen]

Yeah it's just classic finalmeme marketing bullshit

Maybe I'm just not enough of a free thinker but finalmouse is a joke 🤣

[rose crane]

well mine works fine so i am good

[rose crane]

yea its a joke but if you have good one then its aight

[verbal solar]

can we buy the travel case apart?

[lime aspen]

Yeah big if there

[rose crane]

yea

[verbal solar]

so i can flex my founder wooting when I finally get friends?

[lime aspen]

Half the people I talk to have shit build quality/had to rma it

[rose crane]

yea many in disc aswell

sad to hear tho

[lime aspen]

Talked to a dude who has 4 ulx's, had to rma 2 of them and one of them is just a creaky/flimsy mess

One of them was an actual good copy, the other 3 werent

190 USD for that btw

[rose crane]

whats a finalmouse alternative

[lime aspen]

Beastx/beastx mini

My beastx mini arrived next week hopefully

[rose crane]

ooh good to hear

[lime aspen]

Small is 35g magnesium, with actually good build quality....

[idle depot]

other companies are making magnesium mice now aswell

[lime aspen]

Beastx is the only one I've seen so far that's actually super good

Darmoshark m2 is pretty good but beastx clears it in terms of QC/build quality

[idle depot]

from what I've seen carb fiber composite is strong but it's flexy and doesn't appear to hold well together

hence the issues

the material seems fine itself

[lime falcon]

unlucky that i have a dog, beastx would be full of dog hair

[lime aspen]

Yeah finalmouse just can't make a solid/sturdy mouse for the life of them

I remember seeing someone say the composite they used was like 88% plastic

Maybe it could be stronger with a different mixture/more carbon

[desert quest]

I've seen a lot of videos about the ULX and some said that the first few months the quality was okay but after a certain time, the clicks started to wobble a lot.

[idle depot]

if that is the case they should of just made a plastic mouse?

[lime aspen]

Or just stuck with magnesium

[idle depot]

^^

[lime aspen]

It seems the strength is no different with their composite over regular plastic lol

[crimson osprey]

Hello guys someone know if there is any plan for aftermarket case?

[lime aspen]

Sure if other companies decide to make them

[buoyant solstice]

How uh... how do you expect anyone to be able to answer that 😄

[idle depot]

Thats up to third party companies I believe wooting will release the design file though.

[valid comet]

would be easuer to maintain than the ULX

[crimson osprey]

idk maybe they said and i dont see it im just ask

[buoyant solstice]

Who - Who said what.

[crimson osprey]

bro idk why so much agry i just ASK and i say MAYBE

[buoyant solstice]

No anger - Just utter confusion at what you're asking is all 😄

Does Wooting know of any third party companies who have pledged to make an aftermarket case? No.

[lime aspen]

You asked a pretty dumb question quite frankly we're just confused

Nobody is angry lol

[lime falcon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1062534052965515277/1081971665275195442/CDF2702F-4068-4DC9-BC7B-0275FFBFD166.gif

[verbal solar]

I bought the wooting80 after the event. At that time, there was still a shaft in my menu. Will the official give me a shaft

[buoyant solstice]

Send us an email, and we can look into it.

[e-mail]

[verbal solar]

I sent it. It's an automatic reply

[buoyant solstice]

Yup. We always have automatic replies - doesn't mean you won't receive a human response. 🙂

[verbal solar]

ok

[shrewd saddle]

Yes...you must give time for the robots to alert the humans!

[severe crag]

Hey i wonder. The normal case is that one transparant? Or only the ghost case

[jade widget]

There's two different translucent cases the ghost and the frost

The normal black one is not translucent

[severe crag]

The normal pcr black is not transparant then i hope

[proper dew]

https://tenor.com/view/loud-house-loud-house-gifs-nickelodeon-todays-the-day-saturday-gif-8631673

[valid comet]

its opaque, ghost and frost are translucent

[soft quarry]

Is it possible to diy the color

[idle depot]

sandpaper + paint

[wispy trellis]

raw case and add finish yourself is way better

[quartz inlet]

[languid pawn]

Hmmmm

[royal epoch]

got a question, does the wooting software support automatic profile switching based on what program is in focus like razer and logitech? i use that feature extensively with my mouse and keyboard for instant auto switching from my game/program keybinds/dpi to general pc usage keybinds/dpi without having to think about it every time i alt-tab from a game/program or start/close it. now peripherals without this are almost unusable to me. with a keyboard like this i feel like it would be even more important so you can switch between different actuation points profiles for different games and one for general pc use to minimize mistakes while typing

[dim sierra]

No but u can easily switch between profiles manually with keybinds

[royal epoch]

damn that's really unfortunate. constantly having to manually switch profiles every time i alt-tab for a sec to answer a discord message for example or every time i start or close a game is just really cumbersome and annoying. hopefully this gets added to the software soon as it's been a standard in gaming keyboard software for many years =(

[dim sierra]

U can put it in #1141096226884956181

[toxic zephyr]

it's not a thing because historically they do not want wootility to have to run in the background

[dim sierra]

^i personally prefers this but would always be nice to have more options

[royal epoch]

well them implementing this would have no influence on people that currently use the software without running it in the background and want to keep it that way, and people like me that find this feature indispensable can choose to enable it and have the software run in the background

[toxic zephyr]

sure

I have to ask though, you can't type on your gaming profile?

[royal epoch]

my current keyboard doesn't have adjustable actuation point so i have no problems. but every review of this keyboard, even from very good players, say they do more mistakes when trying to type on very short actuation distance, but love having it low for gaming. this feature would be a good remedy for this, beside the other benefits of custom keybinds that change instantly on the fly depending on what is in focus

and cuz i did preorder the keyboard i asked to find out if i could use this to help

[toxic zephyr]

I think you'd just be better off learning the low actuation point so you also wouldn't make mistakes when gaming.. regardless, there's the third-party profile switcher on github that either works or doesn't

[dim sierra]

Its not as bad as it sounds to type on low actuation point

[toxic zephyr]

and otherwise free to wait until/if ever they add the feature you want

been 7 years without it so I dunno if they'll add it now

[dim sierra]

It’s just more prone to mistakes because it’s more sensitive and u might accidentally touch the wrong key

[royal epoch]

yeah could learn but it sadly won't replace the super useful and convenient functionality aspects. that's why i hope they implement this feature sooner rather than later. with how popular they have become and the incredibly successful founders campaign, i'm staying optimistic they will be able to catch up functionality wise to software from brands like razer and logitech, cuz they already far surpass these in the tech aspect

[jade widget]

https://github.com/ShayBox/Wooting-Profile-Switcher

There's this

[dim sierra]

I totally forgot about this since i dont use it

[dim sierra]

I guess u can buy a wooting now

[royal epoch]

yoooo this is it. awesome! thank you so much for linking this =D

[royal epoch]

already preordered the minute the founders campaign opened, but now i'm even more excited for it's arrival =D

[hoary quiver]

"catch up functionality wise to software..."

[royal epoch]

well the software is still missing what nowadays is a standard feature

[buoyant solstice]

Matter of debate. You can swap profiles with keyboard shortcuts and you don't have to bother with having software running all the time to use your keyboard

[royal epoch]

like i said for me always switching them manually is too much of a hassle. and i got a pc powerful enough so a mouse/keyboard software running in the back ground has no impact. but of course it's all personal preference, that's why it should be an optional toggle if they every implement it

[buoyant solstice]

Well someone already linked you a tool to do just that further up so.

[jade widget]

There was a reddit post I found which has a response from Simon
"Hey, I'm the Lead software developer at Wooting. Having the option to auto-switch profiles based on the foreground application is something I've wanted to add for a long time. It's definitely still on the TODO list, there have just been many higher priority things the past while 🙂

With the 4 on-board profiles you have the option of having e.g. Analog Profile 1 as your dedicated Valorant profile (that's what I tend to use for my Valorant config). Then you can use the A1 binding to switch to it manually. There are also some community projects like the one mentioned by Mr Pleasent that allow you to auto switch between your on-board profiles depending on the game.

When I add it as a feature to Wootility I'm hoping to have it where you can link arbitrary inactive profiles that should be used in a certain game, so you can keep your onboard profiles to be more general game profiles 🙂

- Simon"

[royal epoch]

yep. i'm very thankful to them for that

[royal epoch]

awesome to hear

[fickle flint]

Now that I saw it, the deadline for my Wooting 80he was from July to August

[river wharf]

same, a few weeks is not a huge wait so w/e for me
the mechkey people are probably used to this with their 1 year wait group buy

[crystal locust]

It’ll be worth the wait broskis

[sleek pelican]

wait how long is aug now

[prisma fjord]

31 days

[severe crag]

im pretty sure i will forget it in 4 months...

[light pollen]

There will be a case for founder's preorder right?

[fallen epoch]

For zinc if i remember correctly
(And i think module? Might be wrong)

[light pollen]

I pre ordered the zinc alloy white one

[fallen epoch]

Then yea you should get a case

[jolly tangle]

smart choice

[light pollen]

@jolly tangle Thanks!

[jolly tangle]

Im also getting a white zinc

[fallen epoch]

Imma go raw once i get my translucent

[light pollen]

I am think to get the gateron jade switch, but i can not edit the order. Have to replace a new one, well not gonna do that.

[jolly tangle]

you get the option later to add additional stuff to your order

[light pollen]

have to pay extra shipping and tax fee if i order it...

I got email from wooting, and they said the only way is place a new order..

so sad about this...

[nova nexus]

We can reapply the founders perks to your new order once you place it

Which batch your orders ends up in may be a little trickier

[final slate]

haha,maybe only one month of my summer vacations left when I get it,but that month will be the greatest one I guess

[river wharf]

same, i look forward to it, obon is usually an entire week off for me in mid august

[midnight iron]

Can always grab the jades from elsewhere too

If you can’t reorder into same batch that is

[celest laurel]

just like three to four months left guys, I am pumped

[wispy trellis]

are those switches even a REAL upgrade from what i see they give up a lot for the buttom out feel and sound

shorter range (wich is actually bad with HE )

magnet covert? how do they perform?

[midnight iron]

That’s not true at all

Shorter travel isn’t worse, it’s a sidegrade

In fact long pole (shorter travel switches) are incredibly popular in non HE space as well

[wispy trellis]

they are popular because with non HE travel is important for faster actuation with HE it makes 0 sense

[midnight iron]

No they’re popular because the quicker bottom out feels nicer to some people and the sound is a bit more sharper typically

[buoyant solstice]

Depends on what you're using them for.

[midnight iron]

It’s not better or worse for HE is the main point. It’s just different

[wispy trellis]

with the stem wobble they where a clear upgrade since stemwobble is really horrible for a good quality keyboard ; but now i would say its just a expnsive option to be different (if you don't know what your doing) or if you need /want the sound bottom out feel

but the shorter travel makes them less versatileso from a plain effektivness point of view they are woerse

[glad meadow]

I think stem wobble is comparing to the v1 lekkers, not the v2 lekkers

[midnight iron]

less versatile? how so? Unless you're using dynamic keystroke it doesn't really matter

[pseudo parrot]

Wootility beta accounts for the missing travel jades have compared to lekkers by the way

[midnight iron]

welcome to keyboards basically @wispy trellis People order a lot of keyboard stuff because they prefer the look or sound or one thing over the other, despite it not really being a performance increase/decrease

[wispy trellis]

exactly that or the new feature rappy snappy

[midnight iron]

the same way some people choose zinc alloy over plastic casing

nah rappy snappy won't be affected for typical usage

[wispy trellis]

i think your mixing something up her i never sayed those ppl make a mistake or anything i just state that they are not "better"

[midnight iron]

they are better stem wobble wise

[wispy trellis]

they are difrent and in fact less versatile but with a difrent sound bottm out feel

[midnight iron]

hence why a lot of folks are buying them. Less stem wobble and they sound a lot nicer to most people (although sound is subjective)

[wispy trellis]

lekker v2 should hafe improved that consibely at least what i heard

[glad meadow]

more than half of the custom keyboards community is more about the feel and visuals of the keyboard than the performance

[midnight iron]

yeah lekker v2 might, but it doesn't change that some people prefer the sound of jades

[wispy trellis]

i nevr stated otherwise

[midnight iron]

they have a lot less of a hollow HE sound than most HE switches, which a lot of folks attribute to the closed bottom

[wispy trellis]

i just stated that they are not "better" some ppl might just simply thinkg they are a plain upgrade and they are not.. same goes with the zinc alloy case while i might buy it because of the look/feel

i actually prever sound of plastici don't like it sharp

[midnight iron]

sure. They're not better, but they're also not worse

like I said, they're a sidegrade to lekker v2

[glad meadow]

opinions on the ws dash and everglide sticky rice?

[midnight iron]

aren't those ws dash just the recolored jades?

[glad meadow]

i think so

[wispy trellis]

performancewise with the 2 features they are nondebatable worse sound and feel wise they are debatble better for most ppl

[midnight iron]

not really.

[glad meadow]

but sticky rice sounds different

[midnight iron]

look if you feel you're going to get some performance decrease by having 0.5mm less travel then that's on you, but there's just as much argument (aka none really) for 0.5mm travel being better as well

you could incorrectly also argue that faster bottom out is better in some obscure niche scenario, but that wouldn't really be the case in real usage. In the same way the slower bottom out isn't better either - it's just a sidegrade

[sleek pelican]

lekker are better technically (outside of feel and sound)

[midnight iron]

your only decision really with jades should be do you prefer 3.5mm or 4mm travel and do you like the sound more/less

[sleek pelican]

its a downgrade if ur only going for performance

[midnight iron]

but it's not. They perform the same

every argument saying 0.5mm travel is a bad thing can also be argued in the reverse that scenarios exist where 0.5mm travel is a good thing. In the end it's a non factor on actual performance

[sleek pelican]

what are the benefits of the travel?

[midnight iron]

you bottom out faster

[sleek pelican]

so?

its analogue

[midnight iron]

but in reality that doesn't really matter, in the same way not bottoming out as fast isn't really a performance thing

[glad meadow]

lower bottom out force doesnt mean perfomance also, is just feel preference

[midnight iron]

^

it's literally just a sidegrade and you guys are way overthinking it

it's not worse or better, just feels different and some like it and some don't - it's preference

[wispy trellis]

lets assume you hat limitless travel (wich ofc is impossible) that would still work really well with HE Rapid Trigger Rappy Snape and so on while 0.5 travel would destory the whole benefit

[glad meadow]

the real debate could be hall effect vs optical

[midnight iron]

let's not assume that because we don't want that though

[glad meadow]

2mm switch coming soon, not even pretravel

pure perfomance

[midnight iron]

for example if you don't have as much control over your start/stop you could argue that faster bottom out leads to faster release motion (although the difference and real life scenario is so absurdly small that it's not a real thing)

[sleek pelican]

cowabunga!

[midnight iron]

so you wouldn't argue that case. In the same way you wouldn't argue that the 0.5 of extra travel leads to some unlocked potential either

that aside I'm not sure who here is even buying jades as a performance upgrade. I haven't seen a single person say they're doing them for that

so i'm not really sure where this debate even came from

[buoyant solstice]

You're entitled to your opinion, but you are objectively losing some travel length - which is important for some of us.

[midnight iron]

yes i'm not arguing that

[buoyant solstice]

Then you don't spend much time here 😄

[midnight iron]

people are saying they upgrade for the sound/feel/wobble, not really for 'performance gains' though

the entire point is that you also objectively gain faster bottom out - which is also arguable as important to some of us. The reality is that argument can be argued both ways so it's hard to say objectively that one is worse/better

[buoyant solstice]

If you need to bottom out a switch, you're doing something wrong.

[midnight iron]

now that's an actual subjective opinion

[buoyant solstice]

So is what you just said.

[midnight iron]

you're missing the point

[pseudo parrot]

I bottom out just for the fun of it, my actuation point doesn’t require it

[buoyant solstice]

Am I? You call them sidegrades, yet there is an objective difference in performance. Whether or not you prefer one or the other is a topic of choice.

[midnight iron]

i'm not saying it's better or worse. I'm saying you can argue for the merits of both 3.5mm and 4mm, so saying it's a performance upgrade/downgrade is usually not really a thing for 99% of people

[toxic zephyr]

I am a bottom just for fun oh wait this is a different conversation

[midnight iron]

yes. But you can objectively say less travel is better in the same way you can say objectively that more travel is better

[wispy trellis]

nope it is not botteming out is bad for the fingers in the long run and not needet specialy with HE features thas my whole point ; by the way ppl with "open" pokjets tend to go for the most expensive option because they think it's the best

[buoyant solstice]

That still doesn't make it a sidegrade.

[drowsy briar]

Hello I just ordered the 80he what are some of the differences between the 60he and the 80he? I currently have the 60he

[red heart]

look noone's gonna judge you for how you use your jade switches

[midnight iron]

it's essentially a sidegrade for the point of this discussion unless you wanted to do some weird point by point objective analysis of every individual scenario

[wispy trellis]

you mean a scientific aprocuhh as proof = wired tech?

[buoyant solstice]

That is not what a sidegrade is. Sidegrades don't change things - It's what you'd call a clone, provided the specs are identical.

[midnight iron]

like I said, there are scenarios where it could be argued as better and also scenarios where you can argue it as worse. But for 99% of people it's not scenarios they actually use so I use the term sidegrade

you're just doing a semantics debate on intent at this point

[buoyant solstice]

There's nothing semantic about literally misusing a term. 😛

[midnight iron]

i'm misusing it to simplify the discussion for people who might not understand

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-not-how-it-works-gif-10492850

[midnight iron]

in the same way you can argue that there are performance upgrades/downgrades in a lot of keyboard stuff that is irrelevent to real world performance, so when people ask in mod channel if something matters we say 'it doesn't matter'

[buoyant solstice]

An office keyboard from Logitech and a Corsair K95 are sidegrades - because some people can't tell the difference.

That is the logic you're applying to this 😄

[midnight iron]

that's a strawman.

A real example would be how for example we say you don't need to change the stabs when you swap to jades

in actual case you MAY find a scenario where it applies and you do, but you don't really and there are other factors in play - but explaining the ins and outs of how key wobble occurs on jades in every individual case doesn't make sense

[lime falcon]

how is it worse performance wise why ur not saying that

talking nonsense bruh

[wispy trellis]

read the whole thing instead of just lazy calling it nonsene its explained and discussed quite well above

[lime falcon]

have you used them?

[umbral harbor]

The only difference I know of is that 80HE has 8khz true polling rate

[midnight iron]

gasket mounting would be the other main difference beyond the 8k scan/poll thing

[wispy trellis]

Will the HE80 come out with a hard Plastik as Dustcover? Since no TKL Covers will fit that would be nice^^

[buoyant solstice]

Zinc won't, since it ships in the travel case.

[wispy trellis]

the others will ? Nice! no 3rd party cover would fit ^^

[buoyant solstice]

I didn't say that. I said that Zinc definitely won't.

[wispy trellis]

ah ok than i deduced to much out of that thanks for the correction

[soft quarry]

Are we getting the 80he files

For the custom case

[buoyant solstice]

Sometime after the initial ones ship out, yes

[mild rapids]

have any of you guys gotten asseto corsa work with the analog keys?

[verbal solar]

hi no reply my email

[acoustic jasper]

I would never play asseto on controller input 😂

[buoyant solstice]

Might need to bind a full controller onto a profile and not use keyboard or mouse at all as soon as the game is launched.
Some games lock into one control scheme or the other.

[buoyant solstice]

Please be patient for a response. It's the weekend, and there's no one working.

[verbal solar]

okokokokokokokokokokokokok

[mild rapids]

i think i've set up everything correctly but i can't accelerate or steer

[tropic vector]

What are the rights of the founders

[buoyant solstice]

Uh... rights?

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-gene-wilder-willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-nothing-gif-5432076

(The founder roles are merely cosmetic, as bragging rights to show you bought a keyboard during a campaign)

[wispy trellis]

soo untrue you hafe the right to remove the roll

[prisma fjord]

bro thought he could ban people from discord if he buys keyboard during campaign

💀

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-gia-moran-you-dont-know-who-youre-messing-with-ciara-hanna-power-rangers-megaforce-gif-26414336

[acoustic jasper]

He the thoughter

[mild rapids]

@buoyant solstice u got any ideas

can't find anything on the internet

[buoyant solstice]

None whatsoever. I don't have the game.

[valid comet]

me

[tropic vector]

I mean what's the difference between a founder and others

[frigid hemlock]

nothing

[buoyant solstice]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[tropic vector]

[prisma fjord]

have you tried other gamepad modes?

[mild rapids]

on asseto corsa?

there's keyboard & mouse which isn't analog

and wheel which doesn't work

[torpid walrus]

prmf

[prisma fjord]

on wootility.io

[mild rapids]

oohh

now it's detected but pressing the keys doesn't do anything

nvm

the keystrokes are detected but nothing happens when i start a race

[celest laurel]

On a side note, I absolutely love the fact that there is desktop software available on top of web software suite

[real storm]

Does anyone know if resin keycaps will affect the whole magnetic switch part of the keyboard?

[midnight iron]

Nah you’re fine as long as they’re standard shape keycaps

[real storm]

What about in terms of weight of the keycaps?

[midnight iron]

That can be an issue if they’re very heavy. In those cases you’d need stronger springs, similar to how ceramic keycaps can be too heavy for l45 (particularly with space bar)

Wooting is releasing their spring packs in near future though, so that’s a simple fix if you do run into spring issues

[real storm]

Thank you for the info 🙂

[icy cosmos]

Funny how keyboard build is becoming like a racing car suspension 🤣

Looking forward to the day we can set bump and rebound. Or imagine the future with Electromagnetic dampers actuator instead of plastic switches 🤔

You can train AI on the keyboard to adjust to your typing force to get the perfect feel 😌

[wispy trellis]

or the ai can play the game for you while you do a less annoying task like working yeah

[icy cosmos]

Its already possible though 🤔

There is a Benchmark where you run different AI against each other on Street fighter 😆

https://youtu.be/CGV0MlnOd30?si=n4pfZS--URdMMMFl

[wispy trellis]

im gettingg already pissed when my gpt explains to me how i can do things when i clearly want it to make it itself im paying for it so it shall work for me not train me how to do things; and i even put that as a gpt description in it and it still trys to teach me

[icy cosmos]

I would recommend you to watch Nvidia latest keynote if you want to know the theory of training your own AI model with your own dataset. We are still in the early discovery stages of AI. Just because you got one tool ( chat GPT) doesn’t make it a toolbox 🧰

[wispy trellis]

yeah crazy times i never expected we reach Enterprise "Computer" quality of voice interfaces lots of things will change with that

by the way the layout of the 80he starts to grow on my i although like this one

[deft basalt]

Man I really want a purple wrist rest now

[wispy trellis]

yeah this one looks neat

i honestly would hafe gone with this layout for the new wooting i don't need dedicated fkeys or number keys i could simply use externaml numpad for numbers

[red heart]

I love my f row

[pseudo parrot]

saaame

[jolly tangle]

This is the wooting gamer front

[shrewd cypress]

wootinggg

[tiny tartan]

whats the thing above the arrows

[lime falcon]

people should stop saying that raptors have best performance its cringe

[hoary prairie]

How 2 type

[lime falcon]

type

[hoary prairie]

How

[pseudo parrot]

What do you mean?

[lime falcon]

press the buttons

[hoary prairie]

Oh

[valid comet]

so close to the 80HE

[deft basalt]

So HE numpad for the memes when?

[pseudo parrot]

Why let your memes be dreams https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1216240474663419995

[terse solstice]

o

[deft basalt]

Real and true

[jolly tangle]

It's an illusion

[deft basalt]

Mayhaps

[ripe oyster]

what is the purpose of the led strip? I cant seem to find any info on this anywhere. Maybe im just lookijg in the wrong places..

[atomic harness]

cool gamer colours (idk)

[ripe oyster]

i read some comments on providing some kind of "communication" but thats about it :/

[trail sedge]

Is it?

[plain aurora]

feedback on rapid trigger, rappy snappy, volume, etc

could already do this using rgb effects but its clearer if it has its own thing i guess

[ripe oyster]

gotchaaa thankss

[idle sage]

i haven’t checked the discord in a couple weeks but anyone else’s na champion tracking say early august as well?

[woeful swallow]

yeah 😦

[lilac timber]

Same

[verbal solar]

Do we know the dimensions of the wotting80he? how big?

[verbal solar]

thanks pookie

[atomic harness]

my eu-kampioen says the same :c

[prisma fjord]

[lilac plaza]

After getting this new keyboard I'm considering canceling my order. I know the wooting will be better quality, but I'm starting to really like this alice layout

I just feels more natural and less forced.

Or maybe I should just get both....I dont know I feel like this layout really enables me to type easier. Going back to regular layout it feels so much harder to type and gotta suck all my fingers together if that makes any sense.

Maybe I should just get the wooting to be sure though. I guess I could sell it if I end up not liking it as much?

[midnight iron]

wootings do tend to have very good resale value

[lilac plaza]

I mean I ordred it first, I just couldn't wait so I got ths alice thing to try out and now I'm wondering why I should keep the 80HE

I do game but I don't think the keyboard will make me any better. Still want to try HE swiches, but I think the layout changeup might be a much larger difference?

I thought I might not like this layout at all, but after using it I can see myself having a much easier time typing in general after only a week or so.

[icy cosmos]

So have you been gaming on Alice? If yes. How does it compare to a normal keyboard layout?

I don’t think you can compare different keyboard layout against each other. But one thing a reviewer pointed out, quote: Alice might not let your wrists dance around as freely. Regular keyboards let you type in various positions because they're roomy. Alice, however, might keep you in a more fixed position.”

[final slate]

obon?in Japan?actually I'll take a trip in June,since I will finish my high school's academy that month

maybe I will encounter it

[loud pier]

highschool

holy crap.. i hope im that young

how do you even know about K-ON jesus

[final slate]

so tired,in China,I will miss it but never hope it come again

[final slate]

sure

[loud pier]

that's not you age group

[final slate]

im from China

thats normal

[loud pier]

I guess good old Pooh don't allow things in in timely mannor

[final slate]

u mean our chairman?

I can even buy wooting,so thats not a problem

[loud pier]

that's unfortunate

oh you mean you CAN sorry im drunk as hell

[lilac plaza]

Most of the games I'm playing right now I Just use an X-box elite controller

[final slate]

haha,u can see Im in this group right now

of course I can

[lilac plaza]

I guess but the position feels more natural to me. Maybe my fingers are just not nimble enough for a regular layout

[loud pier]

actually, i actually mostly play on console if game requires controller

[lilac plaza]

This keyboard also has OSA keycaps, im still adjusting to it, not sure if I like it better or not, but it sure is fun for now.

[loud pier]

I seriously have some serious Switch collection

[lilac plaza]

I was planning to modify it but found that I kinda like these Banana switches

[loud pier]

PS5...is mostly colleting dust, trying to change that with FF7 rebirth and Stellar Blade

most game that runs in PS5 also runs in PC so

[final slate]

yes, u r in Japan?I know people there play PS5 much more than PC

[lilac plaza]

I have only tried a few, but right now these nanas are my favorite. Do you have any experience with box incs?

[loud pier]

no im in US, though I do mostly import games trying to play in Korean

[lilac plaza]

Glad I didn't buy a PS5 after getting this giant monitor

[final slate]

okey,actually Europe and US also like that

[loud pier]

If I want to play Japanese games in Korean, I have to import Asian or Japanese version sadly

I am studing Japanese so I don't have to do that, but it takes time.

[icy cosmos]

Well, I have said it many times before, keybord is a very personal thing. If you feel you have "found your peace" then your journey is over. No need to put down more money on something that will spark another soul search 🙃

[final slate]

I have a Xbox console for PC ,but dont have Xbox or PS5

[loud pier]

Is that even allowed in China?

[final slate]

yes,just ur words on polics are baned

the other things are mostly ok,u can even come to see major for cs2 in shanghai this year

about December I guess

[loud pier]

It's kinda hard to read China for me on that front

since some things are banned and some things are not

Korea mostly do not ban Japanese stuff unless it's actually politically and historically sensitive

I live in US, so I mostly can just by pass that

[final slate]

yes most for the chairman's dominating are baned

[loud pier]

oh boy...

it's kinda hard for US citizen to know what is allowed and banned from my persepective tbh

[icy cosmos]

I have been to China.. for the cultured.. you can always find you way, ( at least if its digital content )

[final slate]

yeah some sterotype

[loud pier]

it's really intersting, since it's rare to talk with people who live there

and have to deal with this.. im pretty sure chinese aren't as thrilled to deal with this as much as westerners does

[final slate]

GFW dont allow people here to vist foreign Internet but we can use VPN

but actually people here hate to be limited especially the young

[icy cosmos]

If you haven´t noticed, you guys in USA is enforcing you own censorship of books, literature and what is to be taught at school in the war against wokeness

[loud pier]

eh... i don't want to speak about that far. I already grad uni by the time that settles in

[icy cosmos]

Euorpe and Japan is becoming the last safe haven 😆

[loud pier]

i was born korean, but i definitely lived in US twice as long

[final slate]

not bad

[icy cosmos]

China was very open before you attended Uni.. too you know.

[loud pier]

well i wouldn't know about that

intersting to know, that's even time before i even concerned about that

[icy cosmos]

It was before you time,... as they say.

[loud pier]

although i'm pretty old, that's even before my time to even know about it i guess

[final slate]

guys sorry to bother but what is Uni ,university?

[loud pier]

sorry university

[icy cosmos]

Sorry for the confusion, that is correct.

[loud pier]

my friends joke about we are too old to benefit from good keyboard, but i beg differ

[icy cosmos]

Why so? what´s your take on it?

[buoyant solstice]

No. A couple of states are - That is not "the US"

[final slate]

yes I understand what u meant,some good universities allow students use VPN to use wiki,but they can also know some turth through it

[river wharf]

have fun, that's also when the rainy season starts and I have to deal with the mold

[loud pier]

@icy cosmos mostly because they are seeking "comfort" games while I do constantly seek to improve my skill

[icy cosmos]

How about Row vs Wade ? In a land of freedom. Women should be able to choose

[final slate]

thanks I will buy shf of ultraman ,haha,I watch it in my whole childhood

[loud pier]

@icy cosmos that's bit too political.. I think we shouldn't go that far

[buoyant solstice]

And if you paid attention most states are doing their very best to reinstate those protections.
Also Roe vs. Wade is a major goal post change from what you just said.

[loud pier]

it's 80He keyboard chatroom going past the scope at this point lol

[final slate]

yes no politics

enjoy sharing happiness.thats enough

[river wharf]

USD/JPY has gone up almost 6% since I preordered so im glad I did that

[loud pier]

my god

the amount of money i spent ordering nendoroids

about a decades ago, will be lot cheaper if i ordered it now

which is funny because my view on japan changed alot

[river wharf]

Did u just call me out

[final slate]

wow miku.In my area we are more likely to buy fufu

[loud pier]

when one of my fav youtuber said they want to go japan, i said you need to go OUT of japan get GET IN.. now I don't think that way

well thank you YAGOO

you changed my mind about Japan singlehandedly

[icy cosmos]

We all have different perspective on freedom. I just want to be clear that Freedom is everything ( as long as its within the law) if the Laws is enforcing censorship and taking the people the right of their own body. I put them in the same category.

[loud pier]

seriously I have some serious collection of nendoroid before #1000

[buoyant solstice]

Take it to #💬│general as others pointed out.

[icy cosmos]

Right.

[wind tiger]

what

[icy cosmos]

I didn´t started the "ban" conversation though.

[final slate]

do u have kamenrider or ultraman?

[buoyant solstice]

(But you're continuing it)

[river wharf]

nope i just started lol

[wind tiger]

will we get a limited edition made by JLC weeb 80HE? https://jlcpcb.com/blog/653-multi-color-silkscreen-pcb

[jolly tangle]

hello this is the wooting babysitter

how can i cancel you

[icy cosmos]

Since it was not enforced.

[loud pier]

lol

[buoyant solstice]

And still continuing it...

[wind tiger]

which would make it worse cause JLC quality ain't that great

[jolly tangle]

last chance boy. next are timeouts

[river wharf]

how long would it take for rappy snappy to be patented?

[jolly tangle]

ask calder next livestream

[final slate]

yes,no politics!!!

[loud pier]

i saw some video about rappy snappy is not technically legal on osu.. is that true?

[river wharf]

aight sir, i wonder what will other companies do to "copy" it

[jolly tangle]

osu has not commented on the not existimg feature yet

[loud pier]

well it did seem like they are theory-crafting

[final slate]

@jolly tangle sir,are there exist time turns in sending out for funders?

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-jimmy-fallon-fallon-tonight-whatdoyoumean-gif-5110500

[molten arch]

There was an estimate on checkout

[jolly tangle]

time turns?

[loud pier]

Na-Champion on my end

[final slate]

or send in one moment

[icy cosmos]

Researchers found that the response time of the brain begins to decline at age 24. But like you said, having good gears help to motivate yourself to become better. ( it is the same thing with HiFi, at the age of 50 your hearing will likely to start to degrade. Yet the median age of audiophiles is within the 50-60's. )

[molten arch]

Sendin in que

First batch is 20k

[final slate]

I see

[molten arch]

You have to confirm your address before they ship it tho

They will contact you fo that, so you may be able to sneak up a few places

So its pretty much "who orders/confirms first, gets first"

[final slate]

make sense

[loud pier]

Well... my hololive keycap arrives in July, so tbh i don't mind if wooting take little extra time to deliver it to me

[tight cypress]

I'd say if rapid trigger is allowed, then rappy snappy will most likely be too
If it's the rule about 1 keypress = 1 input then technically rapid trigger violates it too
I believe it's more about "create a macro which automatically taps for you" - with rappy snappy you still have full control over inputs, and you have to decide when to press and release a key

[molten arch]

Would be weird to ban the one, but not the other

[loud pier]

@tight cypress i mean i think rapid trigger is higher in benefit compare to normal keyboard... so it was hard for me to accept why rappy-snappy is singled out to be bannable. that's why i even asked, because i didn't even want to just trust what video saids 🙂

besides if it's not even out yet, how the heck do they know?

[tight cypress]

I think so too, once you get the gist of it, rapid trigger gives you quite a big edge over other keyboards
I'd say we just wait until rappy snappy is released, and even if they decide it's bannable, we can easily just turn it off

[wind tiger]

would be funny since technically you could make switches that physically trigger a mechanical contact similar to rapid trigger

[final slate]

I didn't play osu.but I heard tablet is more efficient than keybord .rapid trigger can change the trend?

[wind tiger]

tablet is for the x/y input

you still typically use a keyboard or other button device for the "triggers"

[final slate]

I see,I make a mistake.tablet is compared with mouse I guess

in that case,RT logically should be concerned. some people also think RT in fps like valorent is unfair,but no actions for FIST.players say the improve is much less than ur aim skill

[red heart]

I dont think rapid trigger is that much of a direct advantage cause it‘s technically possible to achieve similar things with traditional mechanical switches if you know exactly where your actuation point is

[final slate]

what about tablet to mouse

I originally thaught tablet to mouse in osu is like console to keybord in car race game.actually I just play the latter game

[kind wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/mini-kong-baby-kong-godzilla-x-kong-the-new-empire-godzilla-x-kong-king-kong-gif-1690763095950201508

[wise flower]

what if i already orderd there b4

[molten arch]

Doesnt change anything, you may only get coupons for that.

[molten arch]

They have to check if the address is still the same, since there is such a huge time gap between order and delivery.

[wise flower]

oh

[lunar dragon]

Is there any way to give a friend a discount, like a referal kind of thing, on the 80HE?

[tight cypress]

Nope, no referral program

[red heart]

You can give your friend a discount by paying for part of it

[molten arch]

Buy it on your account and send it to his address? :0

[jade widget]

I got a "discount" by saving on shipping halving it with my flatmate who also bought 1

[lime falcon]

DISCORD DISCOUNT

[quaint summit]

Very excited for my 80HE! Been daily driving the 60HE and just miss having a few more keys.

[shell monolith]

Just bought the uwu with brass, good combo with my white zinc 80he

[molten arch]

Same

[dense ridge]

@quaint summit what case did u choose?

[small rune]

OMG, it’s beautiful

[red heart]

God damn

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/leak-water-leak-mayday-mayday-mayday-sprung-a-leak-gif-11551866

[red heart]

That‘s ghost?

[fallen epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/everybodystaycalm-staycalm-stay-calm-everybody-gif-13261191

[red heart]

That lightbar is gonna be super useful for me when using non backlit keycaps

Can tell when caps lock is on using that etc

[fallen epoch]

im def using it as a caps lock indicator for sure, always hitting it with my fidgety fingers

[small rune]

White zinc

[red heart]

That looks really good

[buoyant solstice]

I see someone went to the meetup. 😄

[dense ridge]

@small runefrom where are that photos? are they real?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

It's from a keyboard meetup in Shanghai this past weekend. Wooting had a booth.

[pseudo parrot]

its so nice, glad i went with white zinc

[buoyant solstice]

[jolly tangle]

its an engineering sample

[red heart]

I wish it was possible to mix and match metal and plastic cases

[jolly tangle]

not dvt

[red heart]

I‘d use a ghost top and zinc bottom but unfortunately not possible

[simple dome]

oh~ good keyboard

[red heart]

I was expecting ghost to look good

[simple dome]

I can't wait. I want to receive it quickly.

[dense ridge]

what is this?

[red heart]

Unfortunately you cant see the pcb cause its covered by a bunch of other stuff

[buoyant solstice]

Looks like certification logos. Probably there for the sample.

[buoyant solstice]

Like... the switches...the switch plate and so on? Yeah the PCB will always only be visible from below. 😄

[dense ridge]

@small runemaybe u have a video =)?

[red heart]

Yep

So many layers of material above the pcb

[arctic ice]

Raw zinc full board pic when

[small rune]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1L1421d7RZ

Around 2:25

[icy cosmos]

Thanks for taking your time finding the information and sharing it with us 🤣

[small rune]

I’m just share the video, not the owner🤣

[icy cosmos]

So, I have adjusted the OG message 🤣. I have like the video to contribute to the author ✍️

[small rune]

The previous video mention that they have a booth in china, so I find some vlog from that event

[hidden field]

no raw samples? damn 😦

[torn hemlock]

hi

[icy cosmos]

👋 hello

[torn hemlock]

what is the 77.5%

[buoyant solstice]

You bought a 80HE during the founder campaign.

[torn hemlock]

oh ok thx

[verbal solar]

mememe

[simple urchin]

how are people already with with 80he finding it so far?

[buoyant solstice]

They aren't. Cause it isn't out for months 😄

[inland hinge]

No one has them yet, campaign only just finished.

[simple urchin]

theres a couple people with it already no?

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[simple urchin]

Ohhhhh nvm nvm

I thought the pics above was people unboxing them

[buoyant solstice]

No, those are prototypes. And the Wooting staff showing them off.

[tiny quail]

doctor says I only have two more weeks, my last wish is to touch a fully functional wooting 80he prototypes /s

[verbal solar]

campaign just finished.I put wooting80 on my menu before the event ends and pay after the event ends. Do I still have a shaft

[buoyant solstice]

If your order has the free switch pack in it, yes.
But you'll need to email us to make sure you get the founder's perks.

[verbal solar]

ok

[meager quail]

nah you wont

you need to order within the event even if you have there free swtiches they will readjust it

[buoyant solstice]

Dude. I literally said otherwise.

https://tenor.com/view/keep-it-down-over-there-alex-engvid-be-quiet-there-shhh-gif-24977008

[meager quail]

cool but he ordered after it ended

[verbal solar]

😭😭😭

[buoyant solstice]

It doesn't change what I just said. If they have a shopping cart open with the switches, they're a founder.

[verbal solar]

😃😃😃

I'll send an email tomorrow

[pastel hare]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-dancing-molly-vibes-gif-20239452

[azure lake]

where do we see updates for 80he? i noticed on the website store it now says August instead of July.

[buoyant solstice]

No updates yet.

[azure lake]

Wasn't it expected to come July or June? I don't recall seeing August on their website when I initially made my purchase

[buoyant solstice]

Late July/August for the first batch has been the loose estimate since day 1.

[azure lake]

Never saw "august" on the website, but okay thank you

[umbral locust]

Estimates are just that, estimates. They change.

But they've said august for as long as I can remember. July is when it's expected to be in the warehouse.

and then add in some processing time and shipping time to get it to you.

[azure lake]

Right, I'm just asking where do they update the estimation. I would like to stay in the know, instead of just finding out by looking at their store page. If that's the only way to know when products will arrive in warehouse, that's fine, I can look there

[buoyant solstice]

Again - There have been no updates - yet.

Updates will be in blog and video form on the website.

[azure lake]

okay no worries

[azure lake]

just for your reference, I'm new to the company and the discord. The only thing I've ever seen was 1 youtube video which was on their store page, about the 80HE, and the landing page there. I purcahsed April 1 and I saw the expected to be in warehouse in Mid July, so that's the only place I ever saw an estimate. Don't know where else to look so that's why i was asking; not trying to be rude or anything.

[umbral locust]

I saw the same thing, but when you complete the checkout process it says the estimate for you to receive it is august. That estimate is separate from it being in the warehouse, that's all.

[azure lake]

Right right, I'm talking about the warehouse part. it says warehouse August now, so I'll assume September for shipping

I appreciate the timely responses; thanks!

[umbral locust]

Not necessarily, just depends on a lot of factors.

But we won't really know until we know closer to the date.

[azure lake]

I recently got a ULX from finalmouse so I know the estimation for something like this could be very loose. Took an additional 2 months for that one

[verbal solar]

Five months of waiting

[nova nexus]

The estimate shown on the storefront is for new orders, but the first batch already sold out. You probably checked the page a while back and saw an estimate for the first batch before it sold out. Second batch is expected about one month after the first

[azure lake]

That makes sense, thanks Mark!

[raven sorrel]

I’m just excited

[quaint summit]

Ghost - plastic case

[high marsh]

I got a cheetah ULX And tbh it’s amazing. Batch 3 so no issues

[jade widget]

you'd hope so when you're paying $189 for a mouse

[tawny flame]

I mean we're paying $300 for a keyboard here USD

The ULX is the best mouse on the market

[hidden crest]

shoulda just got a WL mouse they are better and cheaper kekw

[jade widget]

according to who

[hidden crest]

Finalmouse themselves

[vapid storm]

XD

[proud parcel]

Fm tarik edition its good and clean

this mice color looks like Jett

[lime falcon]

Boris Yeltsin

[jolly pine]

I got batch one

Sadly it was the worse batch

[hoary quiver]

💀

[steady nova]

Now if only they didn't cope about weight goals all the time and actually delivered

[tawny flame]

Yep they're a terrible company. They just sold another 10k mice in 10 mins.. limited stock. Go hate. Not sure why people hate so much, just let them do their thing and go out of business if they're so bad

[verbal solar]

H h hell naw

[steady nova]

I'm just pointing out that not once have they ever hit weight goals they themselves set. If that's hate, you clearly haven't seen what others have said about the company

[midnight iron]

No one is hating them for selling a lot of mice. They likely hate them because of the way they run their business and the sketchy marketing practices/lies while asking top dollar for a product that has hit or miss qc at times

A bit off topic for the 80he channel though, might want to continue in the #💬│general channel

[steady nova]

True.

[shell monolith]

For me its superlight g pro 1 from logitech, best performance for fps and i despise logitech

[lime aspen]

We got a comedian over here

[lime aspen]

Because they are like razer but more scummy

Good hardware in a shit mouse, while abusing fomo with limited batches

They are better at marketing(and lying) than making a solid shell

[vapid storm]

watch out the defence + coping mechanisms are starting to come online

[lime aspen]

You know it

Finalmouse fanboys will fight tooth and nail to defend those scumbags

Still waiting for that 29g mouse they advertised for months that they couldn't even actually get below 30g

Maybe it'll happen with ulx2

[steady nova]

If only they didn't cheap out on materials

[lime aspen]

B. But it's carbon composite

[steady nova]

Absolutely trash composite, a shame really

[lime aspen]

Dw though they charge you like it's full carbon

[deft trout]

wlmouse sweeps

better QC than finalmouse

[lime aspen]

I got the shittiest courier in Canada and it'll still take less time than a finalmouse to arrive

[deft trout]

fm saying delivery in 3-4 weeks but then it takes 4 month to arrive

[lime aspen]

Releasing a new version before people have even received their second batch is wild

[deft trout]

first batches are like not even finished products

batch 3 looked pretty good tho, not that many QC issues compared to the first 2

[lime aspen]

Yeah the QC on those was so absurdly bad

Still has a bunch of flex issues on 3rd batch I seen

[fallen epoch]

Speaking of wlmouse, i got my tracking for my fabulous beasts beast x today

[deft trout]

letsgooo

which one did you buy? i really loveee the new colors but its only the medium

i prefer the mini

[fallen epoch]

I got the orange one, most people i see love the purple or black

[idle depot]

I think the hump flexing is just because of the material

[deft trout]

my fav would be orange or pink

[fallen epoch]

Itll be my first time with a real light-weight mouse

[deft trout]

just not really a big fan of the scrollwheel tho

[idle depot]

that setup looks sick

[deft trout]

is that a artisan pad or a lgg

[vapid storm]

lgg saturn pro

[deft trout]

W

[idle depot]

how do Lgg pads compare to artisan?

[deft trout]

was my first very lightweight too, i had a x2v2 mini before and when i first got it it felt like i was holding literally nothing, the clicks are really good too

[vapid storm]

haven't tried one, but from what I understand the lgg saturn pro is really close to artisan zero(?)

and again, what I hear the quality seems to be on par

maybe I'll try the new type99 at some point

[fallen epoch]

Did you see that video of that one guy showing off the collab medium? The clicks sounded pretty nice

[deft trout]

i think zero is a tiny bit faster than saturn pro

[deft trout]

aimadapt? yep

[vapid storm]

possible that I'm mixing it with the otsu or something else, but yeah this is a great control pad overall

[fallen epoch]

Yeeah

[deft trout]

i dont remember the clicks tho, i dont really care about that lol

for me its more about the click feel, i dont hear the clicks when i play

[fallen epoch]

Yeah feeling is king for sure. Expecting the battery life to be much better also

[deft trout]

wlmouse got some crazy good latency, currently the best click latency on the market

[fallen epoch]

Yeah their latency is pretty nuts

[vapid storm]

the clicks are fucking awesome, the feel and sound is better than anything else I've owned for sure

[deft trout]

it doesnt really matter since all mice have insane latency but W anyways

only thing lacking would be a web based software, but you cant have everything

[vapid storm]

battery life is my main gripe and probably that the dongle has the usb port on top which is a weird choice, but overall you'll be super happy with it

[fallen epoch]

Regardless, the orange mouse will fit perfectly for my setup, my basilisk will stay my workspace mouse on the side

[vapid storm]

oh yeah that too, but they're working on that I think

[deft trout]

yeah beast x med have a wonky dongle lol

[lime aspen]

I'm getting the lilac beastx mini

[fallen epoch]

collab has the new firmware provider that works on the mini, so im expecting it to be much better than the original beast x

[deft trout]

my mini can last like 5 days on 1k

[lime aspen]

Should fit well with how I have the colors on my setup

[deft trout]

having mechanical clicks also helps a lot with battery life, unless you got the optical switches

[fallen epoch]

you can only choose the opticals on the beast x max, the collab mice will always have the mechanicals

[deft trout]

my setup makes no sense LOL my pc is black, my mousepad is black and white (kurosun) i have the mini iceblue and black and grey wooting

[vapid storm]

ah yeah the "medium" one lasts long enough on 1k but I game on 4k so it'll eat it up pretty fast. coming from a superlight which lasted for 2 weeks was something that took some getting used to

[deft trout]

my gpx 1 was lasting me 3 weeks
i miss it sometimes

[vapid storm]

love the color theme here, I should get some more adjustable desk lights or something

[idle depot]

Quality wise?

[fallen epoch]

i could definitely eat this setup

[deft trout]

idk bro i dont own the zero or the saturn pro, but they are both goated pads anyways

[idle depot]

true

Honestly I don't think I could go wrong with either

[deft trout]

i was thinking of getting a raiden but the coffee color looks bad

oh yeah for sure, both are great if you want a control pad, just have in mind that the zero is a bit faster and not a true control pad

if you want a real slow pad wait for the type99 from artisan

[lime aspen]

I just stuffed rgb strips into a salt rock

[vapid storm]

hacky, I like it

[lime aspen]

I liked my zero a lot, but after going glass I just use my zero as a keyboard mat

[vapid storm]

blasphemy :r

[lime aspen]

Glass supremacy 🤷

[deft trout]

never tried glass

almost bought a skypad 3.0 when it was at 50€ but didnt pull the trigger

[lime falcon]

hien 😳

[vapid storm]

prefer a control pad since all I play competitively is cs

[deft trout]

if only artisan made a smooth speed pad without a bad color

raiden red mid when

[lime falcon]

wine red is goated

[deft trout]

any color that is not coffee

[lime falcon]

coffee is ass

[deft trout]

i'll even buy a matcha mid raiden without hesitation

[lime falcon]

it looks like its dirty

[fallen epoch]

perfect for me, hides the dirt

[deft trout]

makes me think i need to clean my pad

kurosun supremacy

[fallen epoch]

it would definitely fit my setup given coffee is what I aim for

[deft trout]

maybe i'll pull the trigger one day lol i've always been interested in artisan pads, never bought one

[quartz portal]

Raiden xtra soft is the best pad ever

[deft trout]

and i might even buy 2, if they have another smooth pad option i dont like abrasive pads

[quartz portal]

Worth every cent

[deft trout]

i'm never buying a xsoft pad, mid only

[vapid storm]

yeah and it'll still be fine when you spill actual coffee on it

[fallen epoch]

just how i like my products

[deft trout]

do you guys know if artisan have another smooth option? outside of the raiden

[vapid storm]

wabi-sabi and all that

[elfin dock]

I love my Xsoft. So comfy.

It's still pretty firm.

[vapid storm]

yeah I prefer xsoft too, feels fun to push down on it xd

raiden xsoft is the smoothest they have I think

[deft trout]

maybe an xsoft to put under my keyboard

[vapid storm]

oh wait it's almost 3am, good night folks

[deft trout]

🫡

[uncut iron]

.

[lime falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/fly-swatter-mad-face-gif-13037171

[lime aspen]

Yeah I regret getting xsoft zero

I wish I got mid

[lime falcon]

what about soft

[deft trout]

i dont push my mice into my pad so mid is the clear winner, also i use dots so softer pads can cause problems

mid goated

[lime aspen]

After using glass so long xsoft is way too soft

It feels like using a pillow as a pad

[deft trout]

must be nice on the keyboard pad ngl

maybe i'll grab two raidens, one mid and one xsoft

[lime aspen]

Yeah xsoft is nice for that

[lime falcon]

wlmouse looks sexy

[lime aspen]

Yeah I hope mine comes this week

Probably won't happen

[lime falcon]

which did you order?

[lime aspen]

Bxm lilac

[lime falcon]

dude their colors are goated

personally i dont like the holes on sides

[deft trout]

they give you grip tape for that

i really like their color but i prefer the medium colors than the mini, sadly i prefer the mini size

[lime falcon]

my dog will ruin it if i ever get beastx

he loves to play sometimes

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1062534052965515277/1081971665275195442/CDF2702F-4068-4DC9-BC7B-0275FFBFD166.gif

[waxen turret]

Hey, what is the width of the spacebar again? Want to get aftermarket stabilizers rn.

[lament rapids]

we should be able to buy zinc alloy case later on right?

[waxen turret]

yes, you already can, as far as I know.

[lament rapids]

oh shoot, ok thanks lol

[waxen turret]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-zinc-alloy-case?Color=Black

[verbal solar]

Is the staff sleeping

[lament saffron]

Almost guaranteed. Let's start a riot.

[copper copper]

Everybody sleeps sometimes

[white creek]

is it possible to change my 80HE pre-order case to frost instead of ghost?

[lime aspen]

Gotta email them but yeah

[light bear]

They told me is better to cancel the order and get a new order with the things I want, but that was before the pre order end

[white creek]

awesome ill do that

[white creek]

yeah i ordered during the founder's campaign dont want to risk it haha

[light bear]

But contact then to make sure

[white creek]

i will yeah! thank you

[tacit bronze]

is the zinc alloy raw casing a new release or does anyone already have it? i'd like to konw how easily it taints given it'll be quite close to a cup of coffee most of the time

[tight cypress]

Completely new, no one has it yet, it's still in the works

[tacit bronze]

Understood, Ill wait til reviews for that then

[proven heron]

is there a coiled cabel which supports the low latency of a wooting

[buoyant solstice]

Ours

[proven heron]

you have coiled cabels?

[buoyant solstice]

Oui?

https://wooting.io/product/detachable-cable

[proven heron]

does it also support the low latency of the 80he?

but no white :<

[tight cypress]

Yes it does

Soon also coming in white, pink, blue and purple

[buoyant solstice]

White and pink are on their way.

[tacit bronze]

are there any plans for wireless

[buoyant solstice]

Sure aren't

[tacit bronze]

[ancient quail]

I already ordered the 80 will I be able to add the other keep caps before shipping starts or will I have to wait

[shell monolith]

I have a coupon for a cable so white here we come heheh

[verbal solar]

Mansen look gmail

@buoyant solstice

[buoyant solstice]

You do not have my gmail.

[verbal solar]

☝🤓

look this gmail

@buoyant solstice

[worn prairie]

What are shafts

[tight cypress]

Please don't post your e-mail address on a public server

[verbal solar]

😭I'm sorry

Dawm, damn machine translation

I'm sorry I didn't learn English, damn machine translation

[knotty wagon]

For the pre-order, I am not sure if I'll be at the same address I am right now, would I be able to switch the address before shipping? or is it permanent once purchased?

[buoyant solstice]

You can change it on the hub, up till the point where it is packed.

Within the same country* (state/province in some countries such as Canada*)

[knotty wagon]

thank you sm

[valid comet]

Calslock guess what

[buoyant solstice]

Chicken butt?

[valid comet]

Nope

Just waiting for calslock rn

Hopefully I dont sleep

[white creek]

i wonder the third party cases are going to look like

im sure there will be some really nice ones

[toxic zephyr]

doubt there will be even one

[white creek]

really? none by kbdfans?

[toxic zephyr]

i don't believe in such a future

[buoyant solstice]

All I can say is that at least one company has reached out to inquire about making a case. Nothing confirmed of course.