🌟│wooting80he

[hidden field]

waiting for raw zinc sample... rly hoping sample vid comes out before may

[unique hemlock]

woothing 80HE gang can we get a yerrpp

[rapid basalt]

When's the next update on the 80he?

[buoyant solstice]

https://twitter.com/WootingKB/status/1774036830348091567

wooting (@WootingKB) on X

This week was no 80HE update.

We tried recording something between developments as an experiment, but it ended up being a bit of a blooper.

We need a moment to collect our thoughts and map out a new weekly update schedule based on timeline.

Twitter · Mar 30, 2024, 11:31 AM

[idle depot]

Blooper for April fools

[grave willow]

yerrpp

Anyone with L45 - is the difference from L60 significant?

[rapid basalt]

Aww thanks for the tweet @buoyant solstice really looking forward to these updates. Makes the FC so suspenseful

[lime falcon]

they are lighter

[grave willow]

Damn

[lime falcon]

what did u expect

[icy cosmos]

As a fellow Viking, you know that there’s only one option. Pre build + Zink. Plastic doesn’t exist in our vocabulary. If you don’t trust your blade with another man, go with the modular option and forge your own masterpiece.

[pearl jetty]

Test

[dreamy sedge]

what else would you use to defend your home just hammer them with your keeb

maybe we get a selfdefense guide for the 80he

[vernal fulcrum]

Hi is there any sound test for wooting80he zinc alloy and pcr plastic?

[vapid chasm]

I ordered a wooting 80 he and got a free switch pack and all but how do i claim the discord peark?

[prisma fjord]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

[jade widget]

If you scroll down on this page there's a sound test for the pcr case https://wooting.io/wooting-80he

No sound test for the zinc case yet

[rough basin]

how diffrent are thew v1 switches and v2 switches

[nova nexus]

They're different by 1

[lime falcon]

1 < 2

[rough basin]

bruh

they sound better?

[lime falcon]

Yes

also way less stem wobble

and are smoother i guess, current lekkers are scratchy

[shrewd saddle]

Anyone have thoughts on the zinc casing? Or experience with similar materials? (Only used Corsair/steelseries/razer historically

[lament saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-a-difference-anthony-anderson-phat-tuesdays-its-not-the-same-its-not-alike-gif-24913894

[shrewd saddle]

love the name lol

[lime falcon]

[shrewd saddle]

Guide me, O' Thockfather of old. Thy Wisdom, everlasting.

[acoustic jasper]

thockery

[lime falcon]

thockdaddy

[fresh musk]

i would get the zinc but i dont think i can scrounge up the cash for that rn maybe at a later date

[lament saffron]

Only my gf gets to use that name

[low token]

Why not CreamyDaddy

[pine willow]

Father who likes to Thock

[acoustic jasper]

Thock shine

[wispy trellis]

Quick question Ghost or white Zink+alloy? give me pros cons and answer fast bevor my wife can stop me from preordering

[hidden crest]

<@&490097707487330305>

[idle depot]

Alloy heavy

Plastic is plastic

[wispy trellis]

i just really like the look and feel and the sound and i guess the zinally will sound more clear less dampend and i acutaly like the deep dampend sound so im really right now sitting here and don't know wich one.. moneay is secondary actually..

[umbral locust]

Just get both, plastic is cheap enough.

I personally think plastic sounds better but I love the feel of a heavy keyboard.

[wispy trellis]

that's exactly my problem.. i like the sound of plastic just not the feel or look the clean white is awsome but the sund of the plastik one i really love..

[random parcel]

is the 80he worth it over the 60he?

[wispy trellis]

gettingg both is not a option too much clutter already

[umbral locust]

If you like the layout

[random parcel]

i like it

but i also like the 60he.. i have that rn

[wispy trellis]

if you need fkeys or hate using fn keys to get arrows etc yes

[umbral locust]

If you like the layout and don't mind that wait then get the 80.

[random parcel]

but the 8khz.. is that a difference?

[wispy trellis]

nope

not if your not a absolut pro and it comes down to microsecounds

[hard vale]

buy both support the small the company (just raised 5.5 mil in under 12 days)

[last whale]

small companies ftw

[random parcel]

true true

ill wait for reviews if anything.. dont wanna spend $200+ on a keyboard rn lol

[verbal bear]

finally bought

[wispy trellis]

still can't decide if plastic or white zink + alloy wife is already trying to stop me HAHA

[low token]

She cant

I got white zinc because it fits my setup

[wispy trellis]

i love the look and feel but plastik usaly is deeper and in a more satisfying way hollower

[winter coral]

both its 10 more euros if you get module.

[wispy trellis]

mhmm checking mom

[winter coral]

get module zinc and add plastic case over shop page into cart

[low token]

@wispy trellis where are you from

[wispy trellis]

germany

[low token]

Try using deepl translator german to English

[wispy trellis]

how exactly i can't seem to find the plastic case alone?

[buoyant solstice]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-pcr-abs-case ?

[winter coral]

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-pcr-abs-case

[wispy trellis]

ahh there 40 € extra got it thx

[winter coral]

you should get discount at least it was so...on zinc and plastic if you have a module with zinc case in basket

maybe it was modified

[hearty sky]

what sounds better ? 80he or 2he ?

[verbal cape]

80he aint even out bro

[hearty sky]

sound test is on the webpage

[wispy trellis]

doesent seem like it

[winter coral]

Then it has been modified.

or "fixed" 🙂

[wispy trellis]

you need to do it the other way around thanks 🙂

[winter coral]

already couple days ago where I did it 🙂

[winter coral]

As a German number junkie, you'd probably want a wootpad now, wouldn't you? 🙂 https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1216240474663419995

[wispy trellis]

HAHA yes but no a 20€ microsft keypad does the trick while working 😛

so does the logitech mx keys mechanical 75%

[winter coral]

I have this aswell 😛 but i like the same switch style in use

[wispy trellis]

well it hides well when not used 😛

but yes hafe exactly that one two times one white one black

[digital portal]

And the wait begins!

[cursive lily]

Mines August

[digital portal]

Awesome! it's going to be a long next few months for us both.

[nocturne smelt]

Me too lol

[digital portal]

Sweet! can't wait.

[dense quest]

im gonna get it when i get paid later this week >:)

[icy cosmos]

We’re “ all “still in the same batch. So basically everyone that has preordered is in the same boat

[nocturne smelt]

Hi ... how did you get that clown banner

[digital portal]

Yesterday, during April fools they had a limited time event to click on these discord loot crates

[nocturne smelt]

Ohh ok.

[lapis galleon]

its still here

[digital portal]

Weird, I don't see the loot crates under settings anymore

[reef cairn]

Hey is there any good pics or videos comparing the black case vs the ghost case. As all the ones that I could find were renders.
I mostly just want to know how much the leds will be visible through the ghost case as if it is too much it will be hard to use, and if not enough I think that the black one would just look better. Thanks.

[wispy trellis]

here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-qf-bGhHVw

ghost pretty much all over it black is black and you see it not as often but if you after that video still want ghost..; i thik the final one is darker but i guess that leaves still a impression about it

[reef cairn]

Thanks. I thought that I've already watched that one but I must have miss it or something.

[wispy trellis]

you just mixed it up with the one where they talking about case options but they never showed any in there 😉 since the title is so misleading you forgott about that one (if i would diagnose your issue that would be my best bet as a mini MDHouse ;))

[merry leaf]

same time frame as mine. cant wait. excited for all who ordered

[dim sierra]

Na shows late july and eu shows early august

[umbral locust]

Tfw in eu but it says late july 🙌

[river wharf]

Jp gets in Eu-Kampioen batch, early August

[idle sage]

Great time to be in NA right now

[wispy monolith]

so does australia

[jade widget]

Only the US has NA batches

Even Canada gets EU

[valid comet]

me canada

[umbral locust]

Canada gets late july EU 😎

[valid comet]

yuppers, btw does anyone know how good the Gateron KS-20U Dual Rail switches are

I think you told me about themm FEN

[umbral locust]

I am still waiting to receive them, tracking says this weekend. I’ll let you know or @ me then

[valid comet]

your dual raul KS-20U?

[umbral locust]

Ye

[sour egret]

<@&490097707487330305>

[ashen pond]

ty

[sour egret]

np

[ebon sluice]

aussie shipment should be first given our time is ahead of the rest of the world

[wispy monolith]

fr

[static heron]

dual rail ksus improve wobble a little bit. I think the ideal switch right now is either the jades or the everglide gaskets

[jade widget]

Your still behind us in NZ wait your turn

[pastel hare]

4 months never felt this long before

[acoustic jasper]

Factory lube on them not great, sounds slightly better with hand lubing

[valid comet]

you have these? https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-dual-rail-magnetic-orange-switch-sat?VariantsId=10779

[acoustic jasper]

White ones from the egg kb65

Shows on the product pictures a single rail but I opened one up from the board and they were dual rail

[idle sage]

what are you guys gonna use your wooting 80he for?

[jade widget]

Gaming 🤓

[dreamy arrow]

cooking spaghetti

[umbral locust]

Decoration

[valid comet]

beating ground beef into hamburgers

[valid comet]

KS-20 vs KS-20U?

[oblique lichen]

How to tell me, without telling me, that you’re getting a zinc case.

[umbral locust]

KS-20 is just lekkers lol

But diff colors and springs

[valid comet]

how did you guess

[valid comet]

but whats the difference vss 20U and 20?

[umbral locust]

20U is dual rail

[oblique lichen]

Only a person of refined taste would flatten their ground beef to make burger patties with a keyboard in a zinc case.

[oak crater]

Does the 80he come with the tool to replace switches

[valid comet]

how kind of you

[fallen epoch]

I am also this refined taste person, flatter burger patties better

[ebon sluice]

Yes

[valid comet]

why does it say on the Gateron site KS-20 Dual Rail, and on mechkeys KS-20U Dual Rail?

[umbral locust]

Gateron likes to confuse people

Internally it's all KS-20 or something, but Us are the dual rails and Ts are the jades (closed bottom long poles)

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-dual-rail-magnetic-orange-switch-sat?VariantsId=10779

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-magnetic-white-switch-set?VariantsId=10680

https://mechkeys.com/products/gateron-ks-20u?variant=44792748343519

It's the same switch. EDIT: Just to clarify the oranges are. The white is not the same. Though there is a white version of the 20Us lol

[oak crater]

@ebon sluice thanks

[umbral locust]

double shot back lit pbt with the ansi prebuilt

L60s

You don't have a lot of options for HE switches

I personally don't like them, I think jades feel way better.

[violet garnet]

You mean switches?

[umbral locust]

there's not a lot that work with wootings atm

[languid pawn]

High

[umbral locust]

You got Lekker 60s and 40s, Gateron KS-20s, Gateron KS-20Us, Geon Raptors and Gateron Jades.

Those are the main ones, there's a few others not worth considering.

[violet garnet]

All subjective of course

You may enjoy the regular lekkers and that's ok 🙂

[warm mural]

Is there a sound test for the gateron jades anywhere

[violet garnet]

Little thing called YouTube

[umbral locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7zCM7kFNo8

[umbral locust]

Me too. But the jades feel better. My dilemma lmao

[thorny aspen]

you tune out sound after a while, but an annoying feeling is hard to ignore

[undone tundra]

the lekkers sound of nothing

[lime falcon]

dude i guess u guys have different lekkers

how do they sound better than jades

[undone tundra]

they prob like quieter switches

[lime falcon]

i think they have lekker v2 already

[thorny aspen]

bro skipped the first 5 seconds

[undone tundra]

the left ones are jades the clear ones with green stem are lekkers

[thorny aspen]

ngl same i had to rewatch to find out loll

[prisma fjord]

you've been watching different video from others. Right ones have much better sound

[undone tundra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1197577689125638276/1223883727277396048/y4rpxvhbhirc1.gif me when i spread misinformation online

[lime falcon]

what

[undone tundra]

he thinks april fools is today

[lime falcon]

definitely

[prisma fjord]

Switches on the right sounds better for me

[lime falcon]

💀

[undone tundra]

LTGSourPls

[lime falcon]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XqOH3ITmBow?si=VeUmVjPFMrIZQQw_

which one do u like @prisma fjord

[prisma fjord]

In this video jades sound better
it's all about video sound quality and keyboard switches are built in

[jade widget]

just finna have to wait for lekker v2's

[umbral locust]

Won't change anything.

I like jades because of the closed bottom housing not because of the stem wobbling less.

[jade widget]

well word on the block is there will be future HE switches coming out sometime later this year

maybe even some from wooting 👀

[lime falcon]

i dont think they will release anything except v2s

[jade widget]

where's calder when you need him to leak some new products

[umbral locust]

There's a Lekker pro or such in the works. We don't know anything though.

[lime falcon]

havent heard

[umbral locust]

Thockfather talked about it.

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

[winter coral]

Please have the first silent version of HE switches aswell.

[violet garnet]

how long does it take for orders to show on the hub?

[buoyant solstice]

About an hour or so.

[violet garnet]

ty

[icy cosmos]

Innnovating on "Silent" Switches feels like chasing a dream. You need to 1. silent the housing of the switches. 2. Reduce or eliminate the sound cause by the friction of the stem while travling upp and down. 3. Dampen or kill the sound at bottoming out . 4. To top it off you might need special keycaps = more cost = less profit

[shadow acorn]

Anyone know a site i can buy custom key caps from?

[icy cosmos]

not sure what you mean by custom. Most of the custom keycaps is locked behind drops. If you want standard ones go with GMK

[wind tiger]

that is not gmk

[tight cypress]

Those a fake ones, gmkkeycaps.com too

[icy cosmos]

oh.. ok

[icy cosmos]

See - you need to be cultured to not get scammed too! Almost like Nike/ Jordans.

[low token]

Nah just buy from stores that have good reputation. And you will get real keycaps

[icy cosmos]

how do you know they´re real?

[low token]

Because it is reputable store in community

[eager bridge]

Anyone who has ordered a wooting to singapore, how much customs duty did you have to pay?

[nimble iron]

depending on your location: cannonkeys.com, qwertypop.com, ashkeebs.com, https://www.deskhero.ca, and my personal favorite https://osume.com/

also - you can always check https://drop.com/mechanical-keyboards/drops/reviewed?sc=keycaps

[low token]

Here you have vendors list. https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[shadow acorn]

thx

[shadow acorn]

thx

[low token]

Choose keycap set you like

[celest laurel]

For the W80HE, are there plans to upgrade the typing experience? I have the 60HE (obv), as stock, and the typing is/was super rough outside of the box (the gaming on it is supreme, tho). Asking coz the boog75 spoiled me a bit. Can't wait to have my 80HE to test things out.

[silk hedge]

Have you read the details about the board on the website?

[celest laurel]

Yes I did, I did that before the pre-order, but I'm not very technical when it comes to mechanical KBs so it is difficult for me to say (and yeah I saw the sound test in the promotional video)

What I understand is that the press force (?) and the switch more or less remains the same

[silk hedge]

Gasket mount should provide a better typing experience

[celest laurel]

Ah, all right!

[fallen epoch]

The lower angle also is nice, will be a flatter board compared to the 60he

[shadow acorn]

When it says that its expected by X time. Is that like confirmed or CAN it be earlier if things go well?

[silk hedge]

Weight of switches or actuation force depends on the springs inside them 45g or 60g stock, you could replace those if you wanted to

For most people 45g is already rly light

[fallen epoch]

Its usually accurate to the time it states, id recommend getting batch updates so you can get more info for when they start doing those

[shadow acorn]

Alright appreciate you

[silk hedge]

For the 80he i'd be happy if the expected time is accurate but i wouldnt be surprised if delays happen. I wont even think about it arriving sooner than expected

[shadow acorn]

For sure I'm not saying it's a bad time frame at all, But i hope no delays my keyboard rn is biting on for dear life and the 80he is something i was looking for, I cant use 60%s because coding with it is a pain in the ass, but who knows guess we can hope

[silk hedge]

Im in the same boat my keyboard is slowly dying

[neon plinth]

how long on average does it take to deliver?

[tight cypress]

You can check in hub https://hub.wooting.io/my/orders
Other than that... depends on where you live and which delivery method you've picked

[low token]

Fuck you were faster

[tight cypress]

You'd be surprised what being bored in work does to a person

[low token]

I forgot you are Polish it guy

[dusk mortar]

Is there an image/render of the frost case with rgb/lighting on?

[wispy sky]

literally just came to ask this exact thing

[dusk mortar]

been asking for a while i hope we get smth soon

[winged pelican]

how long will it take to lube switches for both lekker and jades? 😄 someone give me a rough idea

[buoyant solstice]

It took me about 4 hours and change to lube my 60HE. Took my first and didn't rush the process - Netflix to keep me company.

[winged pelican]

holy 😮 i need to mentally prepare myself for the fun then 😄

[lime falcon]

get jades and call it a day

[polar storm]

took me 3h and watched a lot of yt videos about it

[undone tundra]

took me 3 hours to lube switches(including hand lubing springs) and 30 mins to tune the stabs

[polar storm]

jades should be lubed too - prelubrication isnt perfect by far

[undone tundra]

Jades are consistently lubed but on the wrong parts imo

all of them had the same amount of lube on part of the stem and on the bottom housing on mine

[winged pelican]

maybe i won't lube both sets then 😄 i don't like the sound of stock jades

[lime falcon]

sound is good for me, i didnt even bother lubing them

[undone tundra]

thats what i thought until i lubed 5 of them

and did a side by side, the spring ping was gone it felt slightly smoother and was much quieter

[polar storm]

so much quieter

[lime falcon]

i might use jades on 80he too, they feel great

[winged pelican]

i also wanted to buy lube station that can handle all switches in one go but these don't seem to exist 😦

[undone tundra]

i like to keep every part of the switch together so i lube them one by one

[winged pelican]

i planned on doing them in batches and using the bag method for springs

[undone tundra]

go for it

[winged pelican]

i don't know how much i'll fck up with brush application though 😦

[undone tundra]

go light on the stem

[lime falcon]

if i lube them i will 100% overlube

[undone tundra]

and heavier on the springs

[lime falcon]

thats why I dont do it

[polar storm]

also go light on the bottom end of the spring if youre lubing it - can get muddy easily

[undone tundra]

i went heavier on the springs they will break in after a while but do as you please

[winged pelican]

on HE does it matter where you lube on the switch?

[undone tundra]

the only thing i dislike about all of these HE switches is the very loud top out

[polar storm]

hm, might try it on my 90 pack

[winged pelican]

or can i lube all 4 sides in and out

[undone tundra]

yes it does

the only other note is that i lubed the top housing on the spacebar switch too to reduce a bit of the top out recently

[buoyant solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY

Calder did an excellent guide on lubing a year ago.

[polar storm]

thats exactly what I used

[undone tundra]

ye thats a good guide i watched it myself

[random solstice]

Quelle est le temps de livraison du clavier ?

[buoyant solstice]

Checkout will tell you.

[random solstice]

J’ai commander hier

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

In that case you'll have to make an account on our hub to keep track of your order. 🙂

[lime falcon]

google translate exists

[random solstice]

what is that ?

[polar storm]

how rude to reply in another language

[winged pelican]

yep saw this 🙂 i guess jades use a similar form factor so the same principle applies

[buoyant solstice]

I translate what they say in a language I don't understand. I am not going to reply in that way however to ensure that what I say is what I mean to say.

[polar storm]

totally clear to me - was joking my love

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/el-rey-de-las-ofertas-no-es-nada-rey-ha-forget-it-gif-20474327

[olive basin]

is it still July for all the original founders? my order doesn't show the expected date but the website is showing new orders are July 2024 (I can't find a batch number)

[buoyant solstice]

July/August for the first batch, barring any delays.

[olive basin]

gotcha, thanks

[lime falcon]

metaphor mod

[olive basin]

yuh

[buoyant solstice]

Until it makes a terrible faux pas

[polar storm]

is there any chance for the 80he to be in warehouse before mid of july?

[buoyant solstice]

Doubtful but not impossible.

[polar storm]

i got faith

[pseudo parrot]

For translation deepl tends to be pretty accurate

[undone tundra]

i'd expect it later than that

i still remember how much my 60he batch was delayed and the alumaze first batch

[plain aurora]

i use whisper for translating

[kind hill]

Why the order I placed for 5units give 1 pc linear 45 but 7units give 3? I think it's 5 and 7.

[upbeat berry]

im unsure what you mean

[kind hill]

well, I placed 2 orders for Wooting 80HE. First order has 5 80HE, and it contains 1 Linear45 v2 for free. Another order has 7 80HE, it conatins 3 Linear45 v2 for free.

[nimble iron]

this is an OK tutorial but honestly - i'd buy a lube station and the stem grabber instead of using tweasers. You will drop your stems half the time with his method. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88tnUYbxaIs

[nova nexus]

The Founders' campaign switch pack perk behaves a bit wonky on the storefront. Once the campaign is over, all orders will be reverted to one free switch pack per founder

[upbeat berry]

aka 1 free pack per order

[nova nexus]

So to be clear, irrespective of how many keyboards you preorder, across however many orders, a max of 1 free pack of switches

[upbeat berry]

oh it is 1 per customer

[nova nexus]

No Tony 1 per founder not per order 😛

[upbeat berry]

i missed that i guess

[kind hill]

Oh, I understand.

[buoyant solstice]

I didn't. Sounds like a skill issue.

[upbeat berry]

only ever lubed a 2he but i dropped 0 stems or springs or such

[buoyant solstice]

[kind hill]

I have been seeking B2B orders because my orders exceed $5000, but I have not received any email response from B2B. It's been half a moth 😦

[upbeat berry]

and i only used tweezers i had laying round

[kind hill]

guys

On the store page, I can only use my credit card for payment, but my credit card limit is not that high. My credit card limit is estimated to be only $25,000

[buoyant solstice]

If it's about 80HE's you're going to be waiting a while. 🙂

[valid comet]

imagine v3 lekkers would be dual rail

[lime falcon]

lekker pros

🤓

[umbral locust]

I'd be more excited about a closed bottom housing

[valid comet]

mine is $2,500 wym

[umbral locust]

He's trying to do a business order.

[valid comet]

what does that offer

[lime falcon]

me too

[lapis galleon]

closed bottom seems sorta mid for gaming

[umbral locust]

Feels and sounds different.

[lime falcon]

ur wrong

[kind hill]

only 11 days of the Founder Campaign

[umbral locust]

I personally just like to know when I have bottomed out, it gives me finer control over the key for things like DKS

[lime falcon]

it has nothing to do for performance

it just changes feel and sound

[lapis galleon]

ik it doesnt change performance, I more meant the feel imo wouldnt be great for gaming

[lime falcon]

nope

[umbral locust]

highly disagree, feels incredible.

[buoyant solstice]

B2B orders aren't part of the campaign to begin with.

[lime falcon]

i have l60 l45 raptors and jades

jades are way more nicer

they feel great

[valid comet]

L60 v2, L45 v2, Jades all on the way

[lime falcon]

meanwhile lekkers and raptors are scratchy

i cant use them at all

[lapis galleon]

thats seems like a lube issue. will probably be fixed with lekker v2s.

[lime falcon]

lekkerv2 will have tighter tolerances but i personally will just continue using jades 🤷

[nova nexus]

I aim to start getting these kinds of orders placed and confirmed by the end of this week

[kind hill]

Will the price of B2B be different? I am planning to purchase 100 units of 80HE in the store. Will my order be cancelled?

[nova nexus]

No, same price

[umbral locust]

Same.

[valid comet]

btw what exactly caused the og lekkers to sound a bit rattly

[umbral locust]

those were lubed poorly iirc

later batches are lubed properly/have enough

[lime falcon]

yea

[valid comet]

oh so all the sound tests are kinda old

[lime falcon]

newest batches are better but the feel is just not good

[valid comet]

again this is my first time doing HE keyboards, let alone my first time with customs

[lime falcon]

yes, newer batches have better sound

if i compare my L45 which i got 1 month ago to my old L60 its night and day difference

[valid comet]

thats nice to hear that the later L45 batch is much better to the og L60

[lime falcon]

yup

[kind hill]

Thank you for your answer. I will make the payment with a credit card first. If there is a response from B2B, I will purchase other orders.

[nova nexus]

We'd prefer the entire order to be in one go via bank transfer, we enforce internal restrictions on credit exposure to credit cards and would likely end up in the order being rejected automatically

[kind hill]

This is also what I think, after all, my credit card limit is very low.

[valid comet]

if I recall the Gateron KS-20U Dual Rail switches do not have a closed bottom

[nova nexus]

Correct

[valid comet]

does that mean the sound may not be like the jades?

Maybe I should wait for a KS-20U Dual Rail Closed bottom

[lime falcon]

80he will sound good i dont think u will want to change switches

not a fact tho 🤷

[lapis galleon]

ks-20us sound almost exactly like lekkers, just with effectively no wobble

[umbral locust]

thy will sound nothing like the jades

[lime falcon]

on website 80he sounds great

[umbral locust]

Most of the HE switches are 80% or more sounding the same. Jades are the only ones that are really different.

[hidden field]

shoutout to Giulia, he/she was so kind and fast at refunding PCR case.
lets go Zinc gang~!!

[valid comet]

KS-20 is open bottom single rail
KS-20T is closed bottom single rail
KS-20U is open bottom dual rail?

[lime falcon]

plastic gang here

[lapis galleon]

also a dual rail jade switch is not needed, the jades have tight enough tolerances already

[lime falcon]

idk why people care about dual rail

jades stem doesnt move at all

[valid comet]

stability

[lime falcon]

? wdym

[lapis galleon]

prob because most people are coming from lekkers and lekkers wobble a lot

[lapis galleon]

jades are more than stable enough, practically no wobble aswell

[lime falcon]

yea, i just received jades and this thing doesnt move if i wiggle it

[hidden field]

funny part is, dual rail KS wobbles lot more than Jades

[lime falcon]

if i wiggle lekkers they literally dance

[valid comet]

whats the point then

[hidden field]

yeah, i dont understand too 😦

[lime falcon]

idk jades are just perfect for me, but weird thing happened today when i swapped to jades i had double clicking issue, updating to 2.7.3 beta 5 helped me

[valid comet]

I guess my order of 90 Jade switches was a good thing

[hidden field]

in gatreon family, jade is no.1 imo / maybe kailh comes up with something unique?

[valid comet]

this is correct though right?

[hidden field]

I was checking them with stem and housing color on Aliexpress, so dunno about alphas

[umbral locust]

As of right now, yes. But that ight change because gateron likes to keep a confusing naming scheme.

[odd briar]

About to order my 80he, do the new Lekker V2 come prelubed?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[lime falcon]

Yes

[buoyant solstice]

ALL of our switches are prelubed. V2 or otherwise.

[odd briar]

Oh, I was under the impression that the v1 weren't

[wooden spindle]

Mansen, so I am ordering the 80HE soon just two quick questions:

1. These V2s are a lot like the current V1s, just with tighter tolerances so they feel and sound a bit better?
2. If I pick the raw case and later on after you show how it looks (but before delivery of course!) - I can change my order to the white or black one, right?

[wooden spindle]

Early V1s (Wooting Two Lekker Edition) had some prelube on them. Modern V1s have more and better applied lube (the ones you currently get)

[umbral locust]

Yes and Yes.

[silver dust]

Has anyone tried the ws dash he switches?
https://shop.wuquestudio.com/collections/switches-in-stock/products/ws-dash-he-switch-70pcs

3.5mm travel
55cN bottom out
Closed bottom
Maybe another jade?

[umbral locust]

YOOOO

""Available keyboard: SteelSeries / Wooting / Corsair / Rakka""

Am ordering

[timber wedge]

I just ordered the 80he. But still hv no idea how it sounds. Anyone knows?

[low token]

Thock

[umbral locust]

Looks like it's mostly a jade switch, but made by WS. The only difference I can find is that the bottom housing is made from a different material. PA instead of Nylon.

Though iirc, Nylon is a form of PA, so it could actually be the same.

[lime falcon]

they are jades but recolored for some reason

wouldnt buy them

i messaged them and they told me only difference is stem color but i didnt believe

[valid comet]

they doooo like amd and their newer 7000 and 8000 mobile cpus, and intel like 1135G7

and core ultra 9 290K or something

[lapis galleon]

as other have said, they're just a jade recolor

[valid comet]

WS Dash HE are KS-20T?

[lime falcon]

seems like it yes, just copy paste of jades

[valid comet]

different color stems thats it

[drifting shuttle]

are spring lengths different for the jade because of the total travel? I want lighter springs to put on the jade switches.

[valid comet]

why are there no 90 piece options on the gateron website

[buoyant solstice]

You'll have to ask Gateron that.

[lime falcon]

jades are already light

pretty similar to L45

[drifting shuttle]

going for uber light, alimarket 28g or lighter if they make. But not sure if they fit Jades bc of the 3.5mm travel

[winter coral]

Where are the new pictures? 🫠

[icy charm]

They are 20mm

[drifting shuttle]

jade 20mm? And Lekkers?

nm, searched it. Says they have same spring length. Good to know. 16mm looks like.

[icy charm]

https://www.melgeek.com/products/melgeek-gateron-magnetic-jade

Melgeek has them listed as 20mm

But I can ask Gateron myself

[drifting shuttle]

oh ok so Jade is diff than the raptor/Lekker? Bc this screenie says the same and then this other one shows raptor HE at 16mm

[lime falcon]

why does it say total travel 4.1mm?

[icy charm]

I can check with my calipers when I get home

I own all those switches

I already sent a message to Gateron

[drifting shuttle]

🔥

[fallen cairn]

do you guys think I should get the jades or wait for the lekker v2?

[drifting shuttle]

Lekker pros are coming as well. Next gen lekker lol

[fallen cairn]

there’s no timeline for those yet right?

[drifting shuttle]

think not

[lime falcon]

hard question, i would say wait for lekker v2 reviews and stuff and then decide, if u cant wait then get jades, they are great

[fallen cairn]

yeah I’ll probably wait for the reviews first. However, it doesn’t seem like the lekker v2s are a huge change from the first gen lekkers

[icy charm]

If you’re going for the reduced travel and the Jade specific sound, I’d get those, but if you’re happy with Lekkers and how they sound and feel then just wait for the V2’s

There is no information on the community named “Lekker Pros” besides the fact that they were teased in a stream a while back.

[jade widget]

Was this another Calder leak

[lime falcon]

leakder

[umbral locust]

This website is wrong. They are the same length as the lekkers.

Which iirc is 16mm or so.

[umbral locust]

you need wooting compatible springs for jades

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006583637812.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.4e1338darXQVdN&mp=1

There's this for 22mm springs and then this for 18mm springs https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006273053817.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.35.5ae418024qzEYW

[drifting shuttle]

yeah those are the springs I was looking at. 18.5mm ones I ran into. The 22mm might be a typo and only applies to the higher force ones? who knows.

so then these 18.5mm ones will work with the jades? They are bit longer than the 16mm.

[sage wing]

Lekker pros? What difference will they have?

[drifting shuttle]

no idea. lol. It was just mentioned in the stream.

[sage wing]

Ho ok

Let's hope something like aimbot or something, this would make me buy it

But for real, what could it have? I'm thinking but besides too quality build even better than Lekker v2

[drifting shuttle]

I mean, my Lekker v1 might have tolerance issues because the .1mm actuation doesn't really actuate at .1mm, you can depress the key a little and it doesn't activate. So I'm hoping that gets better.

[sage wing]

The precision and amount of registration amounts on the switch is coming from the sensor right? So the board

[drifting shuttle]

not sure

[sage wing]

Ok

Good to know
I hope I will receive mine soon enough to see...

[drifting shuttle]

oh u don't have a wooting yet?

[sage wing]

Stop making me remember this unbearable pain 😭😂

[drifting shuttle]

lulz

[sage wing]

I ordered mid March, and the ONLY thing missing is the case

[drifting shuttle]

yeah test the .1mm actuation and report back. Idk how all these nubs are saying it's actuating at .1mm for them. If you press the key down slowly you can clearly see it travels a bit before it actuates.

[sage wing]

They have everything else in their warehouse

[drifting shuttle]

which one u buy? lol

[sage wing]

Grey alumaze

With module of course

[drifting shuttle]

but which model, 60HE?

[sage wing]

Yeah yeah 60

[drifting shuttle]

word

wait u aren't going for the 80HE?

missing out on that juicy 8khz

[sage wing]

Was scared of maybe missing the arrows but can easily have that with the 60he and f keys I actually don't need them, running an experiment on my 100% ATM (simply removed all the keycaps that would not be present on the 60he and everything is ok for now, maybe numpad for numbers but this can be bought separately if I REALLY need it)

[sage wing]

Nobody need that

It won't make any difference

[drifting shuttle]

nah dood, need it for the videogamez. To smesh newbs

[sage wing]

We are talking less than a Ms difference

I will be slashed by you then I guess

And didn't want to wait like 4months for a keyboard

[drifting shuttle]

lol. yeah true

but ur almost waiting that long anyway. Case missing for u? Another month prob

[sage wing]

It should arrive around next week I assume

[drifting shuttle]

o ok nice

[sage wing]

They estimated the case to be back on stock today actually so yrah

[drifting shuttle]

I have the wooting Lekker edition so maybe .1mm actuation sucks on this board but regular HE and 60HE might be fine. who knows.

[sage wing]

And I don't know how the order of people getting shipped works but I ordered a long time ago and I've been waiting only for the case, and I'm living literally like 3hours away from their office so this should help to instead of going to the us etc

[sage wing]

What is the Lekker edition actually? Only specific keycaps right?

[drifting shuttle]

well. Aluminum case I think

[sage wing]

Ho ok, that's 'ot bad

[drifting shuttle]

blue aluminum case. and the keycaps but maybe the PCB is also different where the .1mm isn't as accurate. will have to ask around.

[sage wing]

I don't think they updated the PCB components, just the stabs for the +

Anyway good 'ight, it's late here

[pale wave]

when is my 80he gunna come 😦

[icy cosmos]

Wow, finally someone keeping it real with themselves. But then again, you can’t really judge something you haven’t tried out yourself 🤔. The foundation of human growth is to never settle for good enough. Always strive for a better future.

[umbral locust]

That's what jesus taught me, always go for the better polling.

[sage wing]

I agree, but my normy ass won't see a difference. If running for a marathon having 25g shirt on or a 23g short on won't make a damn difference in my performance

Same here

8k polling rate won't make me better at all 😭😂

[small mulch]

Hey is it worth to order with alloy case?

I mean does alloy makes a better sound?

[daring axle]

late july early august

[pale wave]

ik

[spark lantern]

I don't think we've gotten the Zinc alloy sound tests yet. Theoretically it should be "better" but that's probably just personal preference. I went with the Zinc just because it will look and feel more quality in my opinion. The PCR sound test is on the main page for the 80HE tho if you haven't heard.

[fickle flint]

I sold my 60he just for this reason

[small mulch]

any suggestion for wirless numpad that matches he80?

[umbral locust]

idk about matches but Zoompad

[tardy heath]

bruh i lubed my wooting and did a alumaze swap its so much better 🙂

lubing it will make it so much better already

[small mulch]

got any link ?

[umbral locust]

https://meletrix.com/collections/dec-zoompad-in-stock

[tardy heath]

whats that ??

what does the 8khz do

[umbral locust]

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q0-max-qmk-custom-number-pad

[tardy heath]

you can make any numpad match if you buy a complete keycap set

[umbral locust]

Basically. And just get the same color for both cases.

[tardy heath]

btw anyone know of any switches that work well with the wooting aside from the lekker switches i want to test out other magnetic switches without losing the tachyon mode or the rappid trigger

[umbral locust]

Geon Raptors, Gateron Jades or Gateron KS-20Us

only ones worth trying out, Jades are the most different from the lekkers and are a fan favorite so I'd expirment with those first

[tardy heath]

for the record i dont lose anything if i try them out ? they work with wootility and i can set them to 0,1 mm

• rapidtrigger

[umbral locust]

You won't lose anything, it all works.

#🪛│modding_faq for more info

[tardy heath]

thanks thats helpfull 🙂

cant wait to try out other switches and mix switches for the optimal feel

[umbral locust]

Wait till you get to spring swapping XD

[tardy heath]

oh man 😉

[devout spoke]

Any switches you recommend for performance reasons?

[tardy heath]

i think i should just buy another wooting module so i can build a completely diffrent one

[umbral locust]

Whatever switches you like the feel off best = you will play better = better performance

Personally I love Jades.

That's how it started with me too, got a prebuilt, then got a module to do a different one, and whats that, 80he coming out soon? Let me get a ocuple of those ....

[devout spoke]

If I use that logic I'd keep the keyboard I'm using since I've trained my hand on it for over a decade

[umbral locust]

not really the same because with the wooting there is technology that is objectively better.

[devout spoke]

So I should hunt for pressure actuation that is close this one I guess?

[umbral locust]

I guess so. And keycaps with a similar profile.

Jades bottom out at 3.5 instead of 4mm, could be a curse or a boon depending on what you play, and could be completely inconsequential. Maybe l45s being lighter means you fatigue less and can stay on top of your game long, maybe it means you just get a lot of sloppy inputs. It's all preferrence.

[devout spoke]

Do you use rapid trigger on your wasd?

[tardy heath]

yeah you have to 😄 i personally do use it on all keys but i set the wasd on a lighter activation point

[devout spoke]

Can we save settings to the board so I don't have to set everything up at a friends house?

[umbral locust]

I am a lunatic. I use rapid trigger on all my keys at 0.15 and 0.1 actuation on all keys

Taychon mode always on

Was sloppy first few weeks but my accuracy has improved quickly

[devout spoke]

Taychon turns off rgb?

[devout spoke]

whats the 0.15?

[umbral locust]

just dimms it a bit, I guess it might disable some of the fancier effects but i don't use rgb so idk

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. Four profiles in total

[devout spoke]

I had no questions about this damn keyboard until it shipped, now they pop into my head

[umbral locust]

the actuation for rapid trigger, most sensitive is 0.15mm

[devout spoke]

Ah so you can set the actuation point and the rapid trigger actuation point where it will reset the key

[umbral locust]

Exactly

You will have to expirement a bit and find the sweet spot that works for you

[devout spoke]

So for your settings you have to go all the way down to actuated, release .05 and its ready to actuate at .1 again?

I think I was thinking of rapid trigger as, as long as the keys are going down its actuated, up its deactuated

[umbral locust]

no, if I even breathe close to my keys they actuate. And any slight lifting off will release.

basically I want my keys to be as responsive as possible. I prefer to use springs to fine tune the feel of the keys actuation force instead of the software.

[hazy forge]

anyone know if wooting will work on firefox in the future

[umbral locust]

just what makes sense for my brain

[devout spoke]

Oh boy Friday's gonna be fun

[pseudo parrot]

If firefox adds support for web usb then yep

[devout spoke]

Wrist rest / No Wrist rest?

[umbral locust]

for me wrist rest is mandatory

[devout spoke]

Same lol

[umbral locust]

Well if am sitting anyway, if am standing I don't need one

[devout spoke]

Hopefully the switches that come with the 60he arent too light I tend to rest the weight of my fingers on them since I have a wrist rest

[icy charm]

Just got home and tested and they are not all the same

From left to right is KS20u , Jades (KS20T), Raptors, then Lekker

Lekker being the longest

Also pulled out my calipers and it’s basically a 1mm difference

[umbral locust]

But it's not 20mm right?

[icy charm]

No

I was getting about 14mm for the Jades and KS20u springs

Whereas the raptors and Lekkers were a lot closer

[umbral locust]

Interesting, it's such a minor difference. I wonder why gateron does it lol

[icy charm]

Yeah and I mean possible user error on my end and margin of error

But with the naked eye you can see the lekker stem is the longest

I get 15.5mm for the Lekker and I get 14.5mm for the for the jades and KS20u

[umbral locust]

yeah it's visible. I compared them to my 18mm springs and they were all shorter than that, and jades and lekkers were close enough i figured its the exact same lmao

[icy charm]

Right yeah

[umbral locust]

but good to know exact measurements.

[icy charm]

I mean calipers could be slightly off but yeah

Whereas they’re using calibrated machines

[umbral locust]

@sudden nest this might interest you

[sudden nest]

Oooooooooo

[icy charm]

Again, take my measurements with a grain of salt, could be somewhat off a bit. I don’t want people to take it as gospel, but I did use digital calipers to test

[sudden nest]

i appreciate the effort

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-top-gun-maverick-salute-tom-cruise-military-gif-26899454

[umbral locust]

Even if the measurements are off, it's useful to know how the springs are in relation to each other.

[icy charm]

Yeah, they're all at least within a 1mm difference

[sudden nest]

that 1mm could just be tolerance issues

[umbral locust]

Could be, true. I don't have calipers otherwise i'd check what mine say lol

For the 22mm springs am having trouble deciding what g to get.

i wish they did a sample pack, i wanna try them all lmao

[sudden nest]

for non-HE switches, whats your ideal spring weight?

[umbral locust]

https://rndkbd.com/products/sprit-mx-slow-extreme-v-springs?variant=43822803648746

I like these in 63.5

60g is also good

[sudden nest]

def go for the 62g springs then

[umbral locust]

Honetly 55 - 63 is good range, any heavier is kind annoying

[sudden nest]

yeah i agree

[umbral locust]

According to sprit mx, 2mm difference in height is about 3g

So am thinking maybe get 45s to account for the extra mm compared to jades

ill think about it and order a set before bed lol

[sudden nest]

i think the 3g is added to the initial/top force

i could be wrong tho

[umbral locust]

No you are right, the initial force is higher only.

https://divinikey.com/collections/springs/products/sprit-mx-slow-extreme-springs

According to this, going from 13.75mm spring to 20mm means +10g initial force

And the heavier the bottom out, the heavier the extra initial force with length

So I might actually go for 55g 22mm springs

Since jades bottom out sooner, I won't actually bottom out the spring, so the bottom out wont be 55 it will be higher and likely closer to what I am used to with normal mx

[sudden nest]

since the jades bottom out sooner/compress the spring less, it will be lighter than 55g bottom out maybe like 53g

[umbral locust]

Are you sure? Because it will start off heavier, or is the spring usually weakest somewhere in the middle range?

I have some Gateron Baby Raccoons, their springs are 20mm 55g and they only travel 3.6 so am imaging it will be the same but heavier in the beginning slightly

[sudden nest]

i could be wrong

im just making an educated guess haha

[sudden nest]

this is probably true

[umbral locust]

Me and you both lmao

[torpid turret]

wooting 80 he zinc alloy pre bulit comes with case right

[umbral locust]

Yes.

[warm laurel]

@buoyant solstice is it just me or Wooting removed the Kana keycap from 80HE order site?

[midnight iron]

it's still there for me, although looks like some things are batch 2 now since batch 1 sold out for some of it

[warm laurel]

I think it's removed for US stores. Are you in US?

[midnight iron]

ah maybe, i'm not US store

[wide loom]

Is there a difference between the 80he prebuilt and the module like the 60he where there was a different plate and something with the stabilizers or is it literally just the same thing disassembled?

[umbral locust]

Nah it's the same

[wide loom]

Ok, thanks

[buoyant solstice]

Was never on the US store as far as I know. US is ANSI only.

Kana is a JIS keycap set. And we only stock US specific things in the US.

[quartz smelt]

Is there any good settings for shooters

[tacit garden]

Is the new 80he gonna be hotswapable with other magnetic ( HE ) switches

[spark hound]

yes, but not all fit
they even offer other ones i believe?

[buoyant solstice]

We sure do.

[hazy forum]

So exciting

But I still didn't get any email

[wooden spindle]

I ordered the Module + a Zinc case. Does this mean I get the Travel case too? Even though it isnt a separate item in the order.

[tight cypress]

Yup, travel case comes with zinc case

[sage wing]

Same here

[sage wing]

Ho nooo, your package is in front of mine

Move away 😂 you shall not pass

[hazy forum]

Haha, you were squatting on the toilet while I was writing the order.

So I will enjoy my wooting first

I cant wait!

[sage wing]

And I had to wait three weeks for the case to be in stock to be able to validate the address 😭

[brazen hill]

what cable comes with the 80he? I thought it was a coiled cable

[tight cypress]

2m USB-C to USB-C braided cable
Along with USB-C to USB-A adapter

[brazen hill]

ah ok! cheers I am placing my order now 🙂

[tight cypress]

Remember to claim your role here after https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

[brazen hill]

it's confirmed but not letting me transfer the order

[buoyant solstice]

Transfer?

[brazen hill]

I ordered without creating an accuont

so I have to transfer the order

[buoyant solstice]

Nope.

[brazen hill]

no?

[pseudo parrot]

just create one using the email you used to order

[buoyant solstice]

You just need to wait a while. Everyone orders "without an account"

[brazen hill]

oh ok

[buoyant solstice]

As long as you create the account on our hub using the same email, it's just a question of waiting for our Hub server to sync up new orders. Usually within an hour. 🙂

[brazen hill]

That makes sense! thank you man!

[dusky bay]

Can I change the case after ordering?

[buoyant solstice]

By emailing us at [e-mail] yes

[dusky bay]

ok

[brazen hill]

ayyyyy

part of the family 🙂

[idle depot]

I believe it was on the US store for a time. That was probably a mistake because during that time you couldn’t select a ISO module.

If US is only ANSI that’s definitely why we can’t see it now lol.

[buoyant solstice]

Apparently they are supposed to be on the US site and warehouse as well - But we've "run out"
Gotta set up a new batch of production to be able to allow more preorders.

[tulip swallow]

Who think 80 he Will be better than 60he+

[buoyant solstice]

Define better - It is on paper objectively "better" in terms of featureset.

[wise compass]

About this topic, is it even possible to transfer a keyboard's ownership to another wooting account/email? Like for example once it's arrived, for mainly warranty purposes

When searching for something like this I found Mark talk about transferring ownership of an order here: #🕒│waiting_room message

[tulip swallow]

there is 1 ms of reaction time on the 60 he think you really see a difference

Only people buy the keyboard think Will be better

But I think same keyboard

Its like mouse 4000 hz

[tight cypress]

Sure, just follow https://help.wooting.io/article/79-transferring-ownership-of-an-order

[wise compass]

Oh thank you that's very helpful, exactly what I was after
Looking to order a 2nd 80HE as a gift for a friend but would want to keep the (initial pre-)order on my account so it's somewhat a surprise but then would want to transfer ownership so in case he needs to deal with warranty he can

[tulip swallow]

I think yes

[merry grotto]

How can I get the batch as a role? 🙂 nevermind - just saw I got it 😄

[sage wing]

Karma will get you, you will see

[hazy forum]

HAHAHA GOODBYE

[glass rock]

Damn, I thought there would be more clowns in here.

[sage wing]

You will have two space bars

[upbeat berry]

only a real clown would put on a clown costume willingly on the internet

[glass rock]

Says the guy who pays discord.

[buoyant solstice]

Jealousy is an ugly thing.

[hazy forum]

HAHAHAHA Maybe, But my double blank WOOTING will still arrive earlier than you

[sage wing]

Who said I am?

[sage wing]

Mine is sexier, even without seeing it

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/i-said-it-weekend-update-saturday-night-live-i-told-you-that-thats-what-i-said-gif-25067816

[hazy forum]

Haha i can wait

[sage wing]

[icy cosmos]

I think we are the ones who pays for his discord 😅

[violet dagger]

did we get a zinc alloy sound test yet?

[buoyant solstice]

not yet

[violet dagger]

unlucky but soon hopefully

[icy cosmos]

We need a sticky FAQ on this one ☝️

[buoyant solstice]

Got a livestream tomorrow. Could ask politely there if one is possible.
Even if it won't be a final case.

[rocky jackal]

i'm ordering 1 rn, i live in indonesia. which type should i pick, is it ANSI ?

[tight cypress]

Pick the same layout you have currently

[rocky jackal]

idk the name

[rose crane]

send a picture of your keyboard

[tight cypress]

If you have long Shift and there Z next to it, and if you have flat Enter, then you have ANSI
If you have shorter Shift, there's another key between Shift and Z and Enter is L-shaped, then you have ISO layout one

[verbal solar]

is it normal that the delivery fees are 30$ for edmonton canada?

[buoyant solstice]

It includes taxes

[verbal solar]

14$ of taxes is added seperatly

[buoyant solstice]

Then it is normal.

[verbal solar]

oke, thx.

[oblique lichen]

Even more if you’d get the zinc case

[verbal solar]

💀

[polar storm]

Weve waited enough. Now tell us more about the LED bar!

[winter coral]

And new pictures

[lime falcon]

knob

[wispy trellis]

is the LED Bar touchsensitive and can i encrease the volume with it? 😉

[upbeat berry]

no touch

[wispy trellis]

😦

missed chance

[umbral locust]

yes. Considering the fact that duties are included, it's actually really cheap for quick international delivery.

[potent grail]

What are the estimated weights of the Zinc alloy case and the PCR ABS case?
Sorry if I'm blind and missed it.

[celest laurel]

I hope its not shipped with Fedex. Fedex likes to sent duty handling invoice out of the blue month after the delivery.

[umbral locust]

When you go to checkout it will tell you what company will do the delivery.

[buoyant solstice]

On the 80HE product page. Scroll down far.

[potent grail]

I take it these weights from the Wooting 80 page are fully assembled, right? So I would just subtract the PCB?
PCR ABS: 790 grams
Zinc alloy: 2160 grams

[buoyant solstice]

Yep

[digital portal]

4.7 lbs roughly

[potent grail]

So I guess an open question as to the case-only weight until the rough weight of the PCB and other non-case components is known.

[lime aspen]

To bc mine were 34$

[verbal solar]

I kinda expected a company like wooting to have a warehouse in canada or America.

[lime aspen]

They do in America but it's cheaper and faster from the eu

[buoyant solstice]

The case weight also isn't final. Could swing a hundred grams either way.

[buoyant solstice]

Las Vegas actually. But it's US only.

[lime aspen]

But also they don't own their own warehouse, they aren't that rich lol

[umbral locust]

Why? They are not a big company and they are from the EU.

I'm surprised they have a centre in the US at all lol

[lament saffron]

@buoyant solstice just wanted to tell you I love you

[buoyant solstice]

[lime aspen]

The warehouse in the EU isnt even their own warehouse isn't it?

[verbal solar]

They arnt? Mb then. Looked like a decently big company since their keyboard is everywhere on YouTube. Good for them.

[digital portal]

would make sense for them to be regionally distributed as I'd imagine a lot of sales come from the US as well.

[umbral locust]

The case could swing a few grams? 80he weed dealer confirmed

[buoyant solstice]

Nope. We rely entirely on fulfilment partners - Have done since the Flaretech days.

[lime aspen]

Yeah I thought so

[buoyant solstice]

Not great for productivity to have Mark, Erik and Jeroen pack founder's orders for a full week or more 😄

[lime aspen]

How much would buying and operating your own warehouse even cost, id assume it's not cheap considering you guys haven't taken that route yet(unless it's in the works and we just don't know)

[digital portal]

you dont really buy commercial properties, you lease them for a period of time

[lime aspen]

Obviously would need to hire a lot more staff

[digital portal]

depending on the warehouse size, it could be upwards of 100k+ a month USD.

also depending on locale, etc.

[nova nexus]

If we sold twice as many as are currently sold by the time it delivers, we'd only need to have everyone in the company pack an entire Lekker Edition run each

[umbral locust]

If I end up wanting to edit my 80he order/cancel and make a new one, would I lose my spot in the first batch?

[nova nexus]

Not if you're quick

[umbral locust]

I know ya'll are swamped atm so I haven't sent an email about it yet XD

But almost at 18K so maybe i'll do it soon, still undecided on cases they are all so tempting lmao

[nova nexus]

Our aim would be to allow people to keep their original batch allocations even if making order modifications down the line, but that wouldn't be possible to guarantee if there's any kind of layout swap

[umbral locust]

Good to know. It's just a matter of cases and switches, either way the module(s) would be ANSI.

I just figured since we are months away, I can just message to change later instead of now since ya'll are busy atm.

Sorry one last question, if I get the zinc case on it's own as an addon, will it still have a travel case?

[potent grail]

I believe so, based on the case's "What do you get" section. https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-zinc-alloy-case

[lament saffron]

Thats why I bought 2

[icy cosmos]

Just catch (buy) them all. No need to cancel your order. The customer support will assist you soon. Just keep calm and wait for your turn. I got to add everything I wanted and more 🤣

It’s the only time you will be able to order over 18kg of cases for the same cheap shipping price 🤣 (EU)

[digital portal]

Anyone else make the decision to add the ghost shell to their order? I've been contemplating buying it as I'm sure it's going to have a very different sound profile from the base zinc I ordered. It's cheap enough to where I feel it's worth it to have both to play around with.

[umbral locust]

yes

[icy cosmos]

Yes

[indigo willow]

Would I reach out to customer support if I wanted to add to my order?

[digital portal]

@indigo willow Yes, that would be a good step to make via the hub

[small rune]

No video coming out this week?

[cedar portal]

Not sure if this has been questioned yet but I'm not experienced with keyboards like the Wooting ones. Can I replace the switches without soldering or any professional tools?

[lime falcon]

Yes wooting keyboards are hotswappable

but only with compatible Hall Effect switches

[cedar portal]

Was only planning to replace some 60 switches with 45 switches anyways

[lime falcon]

Then its easy to do, all you need is switch puller

[magic hearth]

Is Zinc worth the price compared to PCB or not? I don't know what to choose between the two, whether there's a big difference or not.

[buoyant solstice]

One is plastic, one is not.

[umbral locust]

We can't really decide for you. It's up to you whether having a metal case instead of plastic is worth the premium. If you are unsure, save your money imo.

[magic hearth]

I see, thanks haha

[umbral locust]

Both are functionaly the same. Just the metal looks a certain way, is heavier and will sound different. If you don't care about that then the PCR is a fantastic option. I don't know this for a fact, but the vast majority of people likely getting plastic.

[magic hearth]

This is my first custom keyboard, I think I'll see over time if I want to change parts without spending too much at once, thanks for the advice, really

[valid comet]

morning

[wispy trellis]

honestly the amount ou save is ignorable less.. simply buy it later if your in a countr without shipping that is

[winged pelican]

yep I got both 🙂 maybe zinc is too cold during winter 😉

[digital portal]

Yeah, and since you can always go back and buy the zinc case at a later time, there's really no risk in settling for the plastic case to save some money up front. Product availability is going to be the only real kicker there.

[valid comet]

also the PCR ABS case with the non finalized sound test is already very good so no need to worry :)

[wispy trellis]

could be possible that plastic case will get you the keyboard even faster; i would buy zinc alloy later

maybe even 3rd party will come up with something cheaper and awsome

[valid comet]

cant say it enough but wooting is killing it

[digital portal]

I personally opted for the Zinc case because, I prefer the weight and sound profile over ABS, but I'm also buying the ABS in the event I ever want to swap it out.

[umbral locust]

Wooting is the MVP at the morgue for sure

[digital portal]

it's nice to have options.

[valid comet]

likewise, black zinc alloy case for me

[valid comet]

real

@magic hearth is this your first HE board too?

[magic hearth]

After all, I'm someone who loves "soft" noises, and I'd like to get rid of the whole Logitech range, which has been giving me too many problems for a while now. It was mainly the sound that I was wondering about, but it's hard to get answers since there were no videos showing the noise with the zinc

Yes !

[valid comet]

me too

OMG I came from Logitech 🤮

[digital portal]

This will be a significant upgrade from your logitech in terms of sound and feel, with both the ABS and Zinc case for sure.

[valid comet]

the only good thing I used from them was the G Pro X headset and the G502 for everyday use

[digital portal]

i use a g502x as well.

[valid comet]

G502 Hero Wired

[digital portal]

Been solid for the past year or so.

[valid comet]

the funny mouse wheel

[lime falcon]

💀

[magic hearth]

At the moment, my Logitech keyboard is flaking on the keys, even though it's fairly new, and my Logitech headset is having problems again, even though I had to change it 1 year ago. It's really too disgraceful for the price of these products....

[valid comet]

damn

anyone wanna vc?

[digital portal]

Oh, that rubbery coating on them?

[magic hearth]

Not even, that's the worst of it, he just loses all his paint, if you can put it that way ?

[digital portal]

What the heck lol.

[valid comet]

i wash my hands super often, and every product I touch abs or pbt gets glossy in 3 weeks

[hazy cove]

Oh shit is 77.5% the official unofficial name

[valid comet]

yes

[hazy cove]

My meme paid off

[valid comet]

we were scammed!

[umbral locust]

I demand a 2.5% refund

I'm on to you, John Wooting.

[valid comet]

@hazy cove nice kurzgesagt style black hole banner :)

[hazy cove]

It is kurzgesagt

[magic hearth]

This is the first time I've gone for a custom keyboard, at first I wasn't tempted by wooting because the 60He was too compact, but with the 75% side it looks so much better, I can't wait to change

[valid comet]

awesome

[pseudo parrot]

yea i didnt bother with 60he for this reason, 80he is everything i need in a board

[valid comet]

i also am getting a Keychron Q1 HE next month, I can tell you my thoughts on it

[hazy cove]

Got a free 60HE out of this one

[pseudo parrot]

oh lmao this meme was yours

[hazy cove]

Yep

[pseudo parrot]

very nice

[valid comet]

i actually use ALL of the 80HE keys

no more no less, literally all

it is the perfect board for me

[umbral locust]

I really hope we get a 75 or 65 in the future. All I want is a 60 with arrow keys.

[valid comet]

65%

[polar stirrup]

65 looks kind of ugly

[umbral locust]

Good thing keyboards are for clicking and not displaying.

[valid comet]

yeah it compresses the 60% layout too much

[wispy trellis]

While the keyboard has its strengths, I find myself missing several features that would make it truly exceptional:

A 2.4GHz working mode that would allow for low energy consumption outside of gaming, ideally offering extended battery life in standard use, and shorter battery life in an intensive gaming mode.
Nearing Sensor for LED like Logitech MX MEchanical
An adjustable casket, comparable to the versatility of the Q1, that can be tailored for gaming or optimized for general use outside of gaming.
The addition of a knob or touchpad LED for enhanced interactivity and customization.
Improved cable management options that would enable the cable to be positioned to the side or top, for a cleaner desk setup.
Lower Profile - Without sacrificing switch travel
And finally, really good keycaps that promise durability and a premium typing experienc

doesent change the fact that i orderd one ;:P

[valid comet]

LP HE switches when? 0.1-2.0mm

[polar stirrup]

a knob has been leaked

[umbral locust]

Get rid of the navigation row, shift the arrows left one key and make shift a 1u and you have my ideal layout

[wispy trellis]

you don't need that for working do you? i don't say i hafe the solution to this but i bet there is a possibility to reduce energy consumtion with sacrificing not needet precision wihile working

[valid comet]

for real tho, HE takes up a lot more power than mechanical, so idk how that would go with a battery

[polar stirrup]

ye bluetooth is just not optimal

batteries would drain too much

[fickle flint]

For me, all I need to do is remove the LEDs.

[low token]

Calder said that it is not worth because keyboard would draw too much power in 2.4 mode. So it is not viable

[hazy cove]

Wireless keyboards are kinda dumb imo, it sits stationary at your desk 99% of the time, and all you’ve done is added another thing that needs to be charged.

The one time a wireless board makes sense imo is for use in a living room media PC setup where the board might be too unreasonably far from the PC for a cable

[umbral locust]

fr I really don't get it lmao

[polar stirrup]

i have a wireless board never used it wireless

[wispy trellis]

that's actually not what he sayed quite the opposit - he explaint that with the current design it is like that and that that's a problem wich needs a solution and that they prever to work on better performance than this

there are possibilitys for a desktop mode i bet in some years

[umbral locust]

It's not just another thing that needs charging, youv'e added extra cost to people that don't want it. Then you have to factor in battery degradation and replacement over time. Then also factor in the heat and space a battery does.

[wispy trellis]

like logitech did with gaming mices with 1000 hrz for gaming and 500 for desktop to extend battery time etc pp

i really would prever putting a cable in for gaming and removing it for clean desk working

[wispy trellis]

or charging after gaming seassons

i usaly think in 10 years 😉

[winged pelican]

hard disagree - wireless is best

it's literally clutter

[hazy cove]

Wireless mice sure, you’re moving it around a lot, no cable drag is nice

[low token]

Well only wireless mouse are good

[hazy cove]

Oh no, 1 cable,

[winged pelican]

🤷🏻‍♂️ my standards are higher for cleanliness and aesthetics

[lime falcon]

best?

[polar stirrup]

even wireless headphones are bad

[winged pelican]

wireless headphones have their uses, different case though

[lime falcon]

i have never seen my keyboards cable

[wispy trellis]

actually i would kill for a low latency wireless headset that is OPEN

[polar stirrup]

wireless just doesnt sound as good

[low token]

So never?

[polar stirrup]

you have wireless dongles and such just not that good

[hazy cove]

It can, audio isn’t super high bandwidth

[lime falcon]

wireless HE keyboard just sounds bad

[hazy cove]

It sounds pretty pointless

[winged pelican]

it sounds wire...less.

[low token]

Sounds like shitty chinnese he keyboard tbh

[lime falcon]

no it sounds terrible

[polar stirrup]

sound like something highground would do

[lime falcon]

sounds like a thing u would never buy

atleast me

[umbral locust]

Wired headphones/sets always. Less latency and higher fidelity.

[wispy trellis]

still using my Sennheiser HD599 because nothing open comes out wireless all wiresss are just oldscool

[umbral locust]

Wireless can be good enough, but it's jsut that, good enough, it's never the best.

[wispy trellis]

its not a quewstion that currently wires make sense it that it should be replaced as soon as the technik can do it properly

[umbral locust]

Wooting is on a mission to do the best, why would they accept all the compromises that come with making shit wireless.

[lime falcon]

wireless mice are only thing i would consider tbh

because they literally have no latency nowadays

[low token]

Rn they are working On silent switches

So I dont think so wasting resources for small % of community

[winged pelican]

wireless kb is the superior form factor CMV ^^

[low token]

Only thing that will be available is knob

[umbral locust]

what>

[wispy trellis]

better adjustable casket mounting and premium wooting brandet keycaps would be really nice ttoo but well.. you can't always get what you want

[umbral locust]

I agree, the take control keycaps they have are tacky af lol. But I just hate branding in general so i would never use their keycaps anyway lol

Miffed that the wooting 80he case has WOOTING written on it

[low token]

So you want gmk quality wooting keycaps?

[low token]

Well branding is only on plastic case

So no branding is behind paywall

[umbral locust]

Have they confirmed the zinc cases don't have the branding?

[wispy trellis]

surely not but thai hao quality would be nice

[low token]

They already showed black and raw

And they didnt have branding

[polar stirrup]

its not their main thing. keycaps are more of a side. their PCB is where they shine at

[lime falcon]

guys what do you think will calder leak anything in the next livestream

[wispy trellis]

my problem is the 80% layout and fitting ISO DE keycaps

that 80% layout is simply preventing that almost entirely if you don't use blanks

[umbral locust]

NUMPAD

[lime falcon]

💀

[buoyant solstice]

We've locked him up and revoked his stream keys as a precaution.

[low token]

Did you change streamkey?

[rose crane]

Calder is gonna leak a wooting mouse

[low token]

If it is g502 with 200g weight well

[umbral locust]

https://tenor.com/view/mouse-hiding-soda-gif-22750647

[low token]

I'am buying it

[rose crane]

Wooting headset with rapid sounding

[fickle flint]

mouse with magnetic switch and RT

[umbral locust]

Ya'll it's obviously gonna be wooting chair.

[lime falcon]

explain rapid sounding

wooting chair yea with rapid trigger

[wispy trellis]

sidenote why do i hafe a pay now button eventhough i paid already with the order?

[low token]

Wooting x Herman miller

[umbral locust]

analogue clicking would be wild.

[umbral locust]

takes a while to update thats all

[wispy trellis]

2 days ago..

[umbral locust]

it's just visual, dw about it.

[rose crane]

Fast 5ghz wirreles headset with dolby atmos and usb c 5.0

[lime falcon]

💀

[low token]

Wootang 60he++ with 7ghz dongle

[lime falcon]

wooting 60he pro

[thorn hedge]

Hi 😄

[lime falcon]

8k polling

[low token]

16k

[lime falcon]

right

negative latency

-2 latency

[umbral locust]

Wooting neural implant so I don't actually need any peripherals.

[low token]

I9 13900k minimum requirements

[umbral locust]

Wootility software to fix my brain.

[valid comet]

so you mean my 13700K is garbage

[lime falcon]

thank god we dont work at wooting, we have some wild ideas 💀

[thorn hedge]

to anyones experience do yall know if the 80he module's frost/ghost options turn yellow after a while

[low token]

Well oc it to 7ghz with liquid nitrogen and you are fine

[lime falcon]

it shouldnt

[rose crane]

Wooting arm sleeves

[valid comet]

thats a lot to ask from a cut down binned 13900K

[rose crane]

Wooting mousepad

[low token]

Just do not smoke

[thorn hedge]

lol gotchu

[valid comet]

i dont smoke or drink

[thorn hedge]

me neither

[low token]

So you are fine

[grim fiber]

road to yellow ghost[any%]

[thorn hedge]

real!

[lime falcon]

nice pfp

[grim fiber]

doomer

[trim wharf]

Hey all Im looking at ordering the 80HE - does it come with a UISB 3.0 cable or do i hjave to buy the extra accessory just to plug it in

[valid comet]

anyone wanna vc

[lime falcon]

it comes with a cable

[trim wharf]

thank you

[valid comet]

it comes with a cable that is to spec for the 80HE

[thorn hedge]

if u promise not to bite

[valid comet]

cross my heart

[thorn hedge]

https://tenor.com/bG2s6.gif

he bit me

[trim wharf]

thanks

[low token]

Do you taste good atleast?

[thorn hedge]

I'm scrumptious

[grim fiber]

hmm

[random solstice]

WHAT IS THE DELIVERY TIME AFTER BEING GIVEN TO THE DELIVERY PLATFORM?

[valid comet]

does the 80HE module come with a tool to assemble it like screw driver? if you buy a case n stuff

[buoyant solstice]

It does not. You'll have to supply your own PH1 screwdriver. 🙂

[valid comet]

thanks, relayed to DxB :)

[icy cosmos]

You have obviously not seen the limited edition Porsche gaming chair

[low token]

I only seen porsche laptop