🌟│wooting80he

[sonic kindle]

Actually heavier is better no one wants a keyboard wobbling and sliding around there desk

[grave burrow]

feel as in typing or the keybaord itself

[lime aspen]

Oh I thought y'all were talking about mice

[wary adder]

my 60he never was an issue moving around before i put it in the alumaze..

[grave burrow]

aiming? like what

[sonic kindle]

Yea heavy mice suck but if there too light there hard to control

[nova nexus]

No, it's not better, it's just different. If you are a pro gamer who is constantly taking their keyboard to esports events, having a 2+kg keyboard is objectively worse

[lime aspen]

I thought you guys were talking about mice

[dim sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-gif-23143840

[lime aspen]

In which case lighter is objectively better but it's still preference

[dim sierra]

mouse weight is just preference

i dont like light mouse makes me aim worse

[lime aspen]

Obviously but lighter is still technically better

[lime aspen]

That's a skill issue ngl

[dim sierra]

i mean if its heavier just increase dpi

i dont see an issue there 🤨

[lime aspen]

That's not why lighter is better, there also isn't an issue

I'm literally just saying lighter is technically better for aiming

Did you miss where I said it's still preference

[dim sierra]

the same for higher sens is better for aiming but most ppl use slower sens because its easier

[sonic kindle]

Generally heavier is better and a 2 or 3 lbs keyboard usually is better than a 500g one

[dim sierra]

but overall its all just preference

[lime aspen]

Thanks for repeating what I said 3 times

[buoyant solstice]

Did you know - it's just preference

[nova nexus]

I heard that it's preference, can someone confirm?

[lime aspen]

Holy moly thanks mansen, you learn something new everyday🤣

[dim sierra]

[upbeat berry]

thats wrong

just ask chatgpt

[wary adder]

wow im sorry i even brought weight up lol

[upbeat berry]

lol its all good no need to be sorry

[lime aspen]

You better be, now go sit in the corner

[dim sierra]

for kb heavier is better, its not preference

[lime aspen]

Real

[upbeat berry]

we will release a neutron star edition soon

[dim sierra]

wooting overtaking the world

[lime aspen]

If my keyboard can't consume the earth I don't want it

[wary adder]

yeah heavy keyboard with mouse skates on the bottom.

[river wharf]

zeromouse be like look at all those useless plastic

[lime aspen]

Cursed

I wanted to try that but I feel my hands are too wide

[river wharf]

i see lots of csgo pros playing with keyboard at almost 90 degree angle
how about a keyboard case with wheels on the left side so they can switch between gaming and typing

[upbeat berry]

still too much plastic

why not aerogel

[lime aspen]

Too fragile

[upbeat berry]

dont hulk smash it

[lime aspen]

If I can't smash my mice they are cheaply made

[upbeat berry]

way lighter than the zeromouse cause its just the left right click and 2 pads to grip the front

i have sadly seen people use smth like this

[river wharf]

that doesnt look like a mouse anymore 💀

[upbeat berry]

welcome to people wanting lighter and lighter mice

i personally dont care about my mouse weight

[prisma fjord]

this one is actually insanely cursed

[lime aspen]

how hard i grip my mouse normally would have that thing collapse

zero mouse still looks nice to use, that thing looks like a twig

[river wharf]

i found my almost perfect shape with the viper mini, now im vibing with my viper v2 pro

[lime aspen]

my almost perfect shape so far is the lamzu atlantis

[upbeat berry]

ill use g100s and g203 mice till theres the same shape with new internals one day

nice try

[river wharf]

oh I remember those g102/g203 mice, those were too good for the prices

[upbeat berry]

https://salepeaket.live/product_details/20933938.html

for the zaunkoenig m2k

3.34g apparently without pcb

pretty sure pcb was available separately

https://pmm.gg/pages/d-zk1-d-zk2-instructions

instructions for the mod

they also mention the PCB as a self contained product

[bitter spoke]

Hiii wooting 80he will be the same as his former version (just .20 bigger) or will be better in performance?

[upbeat berry]

wha

[dim sierra]

bigger heavier and faster

[bitter spoke]

New to this, and I don’t have a Wooting keyboard, so that’s why I’m asking which one is a better option

[upbeat berry]

depends on what you consider better

[bitter spoke]

;0

[pliant quarry]

Does the code from the reqards page for 80he not work ?

[upbeat berry]

the only real difference spec wise is that the 80he has 8khz polling and scanning. but i highly doubt thisll make you better compared to if you bought a 1khz board

[upbeat berry]

should work

[pliant quarry]

Doesnt for me for some reason it says Thank you for being a member of the Wooting Community!
At the moment, there are no discount codes available for the chosen items. After placing a new order, check the Wooting Hub to see if you've been rewarded.

[upbeat berry]

send a screenshot of the full checkout page with the code that doesnt work being shown as an error in my DMs

[bitter spoke]

To say it like this, the 60h version is almost the same as 80h, the only difference is the 8khz?

[upbeat berry]

well yes and ofc the 80he has more keys due to being a bigger keyboard

other than that all features the 80he are also on the 60he

the 60he only has the advantage of better modability

[dim sierra]

G A S K E T M O U N T

[upbeat berry]

due to how popular the standard is

theyll release as separate switches as well

[lapis galleon]

all current keyboards will eventually start shipping with lekker v2s as well

[upbeat berry]

even then you can always upgrade/switch later

[lapis galleon]

yeah that too

[bitter spoke]

This version have the switch you are saying right?

[upbeat berry]

both 80he versions do

[bitter spoke]

Oh

[lapis galleon]

all versions of the 80he will come with lekker v2s

[bitter spoke]

I don’t know nothing about keyboard, so sorry if I ask a lot

And the most expensive peripheral I will buy lol

[upbeat berry]

keep in mind monitors are also peripherals

[sudden canyon]

Did we ever get a lekker V2 showcase vid? Or no? To check the differences/wobble etc?

[lapis galleon]

no, but more information on the switches will be released during the rest of the campaign

[upbeat berry]

not yet we will deep dive in a separate video at some point

[red heart]

Wooting monitor when

[tiny tartan]

I'm waiting for the 1hour led bar video

[dim sierra]

It was briefly shown on a live stream, way less wobble

[lilac plaza]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhvxZDmxgYg

This guy really did not like the Wooting or Lekker switches.

I really hope the 80HE is a great board

[lime falcon]

you dont need to hope, because IT WILL BE

[midnight iron]

well yeah, no enthusiast is going to like lekkers

he's definitely aware of the 80he though since he's been in the comments of the 80he launch videos lol

[lilac plaza]

Oh no why is that?

I just spent $100 to refurb this 10 year old FC660C

already thinking I should have just bought a ney keyboard lol

[umbral locust]

those work fine

[midnight iron]

they aren't good switches compared to the popular mech custom switches. Too rattly and have that hollow HE sound

[lilac plaza]

[midnight iron]

I love my wooting, but I don't love it due to the lekker switches. Love it for the rest of the features and performance

[umbral locust]

tbh stock is goated. For feel, I like jades but I think they sound worse. Gummy o ring is also good.

[lilac plaza]

crap maybe I should get something else

[midnight iron]

well if you're an enthusiast you just change the switches in the 60he

[lilac plaza]

Sound is less important at home I suppose

[lilac plaza]

I ordered the 80HE not the 60

[midnight iron]

oh then why are you worried

lekker v2 aren't lekker v1, and 80he isn't the 60he

they won't sound the same, particularly cause they don't use the same switches

[lilac plaza]

I'm only somewhat of an entheusiast. I was going to build my next keyboard, but just decided to get the pre-built 80HE cause it was cheaper than building it myself

[umbral locust]

All hippyo does is throw every mod he knows at every keyboard and pretend it sounds good or thoccy

[lilac plaza]

I don't even change my keycaps if they are good enough

[midnight iron]

yeah you'll be fine. The main thing enthusiasts didn't like with the 60he was just the v1 lekkers are rattly and loose

[lilac plaza]

NGL I did like the look of some of those bluetooth boards with the volume knobs

[midnight iron]

but that's fixed in the 80he switches supposedly so i wouldn't worry too much about that

[lilac plaza]

oh ok

I prefer topre over every Cherry switch I have tried

except maybe when gaming, and thats only a maybe

Maybe I am just weird

[oblique pilot]

You’re not weird

[lilac plaza]

I gotta figure out how to remove the stem holder from the plate.

without damaging hen I can re-vamp this board

[upper briar]

hey all does anyone know wootings return policy?

can i return no questions asked?

[upbeat berry]

the first 30days yes

https://wooting.io/policies/warranty-return-policy

[upper briar]

appreciate it

[severe merlin]

The Pre-Assembled Version does have ISO Nordic right?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes and no.

You'll have to put on the keycaps yourself - but Nordic IS an option for keycaps.

[pseudo parrot]

also make sure to select them in the checkout configurator unless you’re planning to use your own key caps

[severe merlin]

So underneath the keycaps ISO and ANSI are the same?

It’s just the keycaps?

[pseudo parrot]

No they’re not the same

#1219318999293362216 message

See here for differences

[hearty sky]

Is this razer synapse software is a problem for Wooting keyboard to work fine ???

[umbral locust]

??

[hearty sky]

Razer synapse software causes any issue to wooting app or keyboard to work properly?

While running in the background

[umbral locust]

no it should be fine, it doesn't control anything wooting does.

But you shouldn't have razer software work in the background imo

[hearty sky]

why is that ?

[umbral locust]

It's a resource hog and it collects data on you.

[hearty sky]

Its been running on my PC for 3 years 💀

[buoyant solstice]

ANSI is ANSI, ISO is ISO.

ISO Nordic is just one of several ISO options.

[umbral locust]

rip

[ebon night]

Proof?

[umbral locust]

literally open task manager?

[ebon night]

I did, it takes 100mb of memory, < 0% cpu. Where's the data collection

[umbral locust]

You can literally check to see how much data it's uploading and downloading

[ebon night]

and that's proof it's data collection? Stop making unsubstantiated claims wihtout proof.

[upbeat berry]

i mean if its constantly uploading a ton of data that would speak for it

checking for updates every few minutes is only a few kb of "uploaded data"

[umbral locust]

6,5gbs of data in one month

You tell me what that is

One of the guys who designed the razer API all but confirmed it, can't find the post now because reddit is freaking out.

Feel free to not believe me, I personally do not trust razer's software for a multitude of reasons.

[ebon night]

Show me proof. Show me a network capture of the data it's sending. Stop spreading FUD.

I don't believe random internet people 'trust me bro, it's literally'

[umbral locust]

I haven't used their software in over a year, I dont have receipts on hand to convince people.

you are free to do your own research I don't have to prove shit to you lol

[upbeat berry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/tx5040/comment/i3p773z/

i assume this post was meant

so it send a ton of app usage data to razer

[umbral locust]

I can't open it because it says reddit is having issues

But it was a similar post, some guy in the comments talks abut the api iirc

[upbeat berry]

literally this post

technically synapse does do keylog though

since it has a heatmap feature of pressed keys

[umbral locust]

I personally don't trust any company/software that does this. Potential exception for reputable people who work open source.

[upbeat berry]

i woudlnt trust any heatmap for pressed keys

[hidden crest]

yeah razer has had that heatmap for a long time too

[ebon night]

I'm asking for actual proof. It could be true and I want to see actual data and information. That is just a random internet person on reddit saying w/e they want.

[umbral locust]

Literally check your network usage

[buoyant solstice]

Boot up Wireshark and have fun I guess

[upbeat berry]

man if any of my apps upload 6gb of data that arent my browser (since i browse a lot of websites so traffic out is high) i would uninstall it immediately

there is no reason for something like synapse to send out 6gb worth of data

[umbral locust]

So I did what any reasonable person would do which is uninstall and then run a script to block razer

I didnt take a screenshot so that 2 years later I can convince a random on discord

when they can just view their own personal network usage lol

but yeah like a few MBs is innoncent enough, but GBs?!?!

[upbeat berry]

i do expect a few megabytes over a month or so due to automatic update checking but not a lot

[past bison]

ok cool

i am having a tough time deciding whether or not to get the jade switches

[umbral locust]

From the Razer Synapse TOS agreement:

"User Generated Information" means any information made available to Razer through your use of the Software. Subject to the Privacy Policy mentioned above, you expressly grant Razer the complete and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind.

By using Razer Synapse 2.0 ("Synapse"), the Subscriber agrees that Razer may collect aggregate information, individual information, and personally identifiable information. Razer may share aggregate information and individual information with other parties. Razer shall not share personally identifiable information with other parties, except as described in the policy below.

http://www.razerzone.com/synapse2/subscriber-agreement
http://www.razerzone.com/synapse2/privacy-policy

@ebon night

[grave burrow]

man so hard decide if i want heavier or light board lol

[narrow smelt]

yay

[icy cosmos]

Get both. Buy one ☝️ and get a additional case. Switch it up when you’re feeling it

[devout spoke]

what's the pros and cons?

[umbral locust]

idk why Cosimo took it so perosnally that I shit on Razer lmao

[grave burrow]

Not sure lol

[umbral locust]

I thought it was common knowledge that hteir software is shitty and shady.

[jade widget]

unfortunately it's true for all the big manufacturers

[lime aspen]

yeah this has been common knowledge for almost, if not a decade

[frozen flint]

ofc heavy board easier to hit people with

in game*

[fading timber]

no irl

jk dont hit anyone

[deft basalt]

Which do y'all think looks cleaner, matte or gloss plastic?

[jade widget]

matte, gloss usually just a fingerprint magnet

[deft basalt]

Fair enough, matte coating it is

[jade widget]

gloss can look good too but I can't be bothered cleaning it regularly to keep it that way

[clear sapphire]

Is there any news on whether the wrist rest for the 80he will be available in blossom pink by the time it releases?

[umbral locust]

matte 100%

[valid comet]

^

Always matte never glossy

[low token]

I don't think so

Tho they would release pink colour ways if there is enough demand in 2025

[umbral locust]

They only released it to match the pink case. Since the 80 has no pink case, it likely isn't in the works.

[clear sapphire]

Ah is that why? Fair enough. It would go well with a keycap set I had but I guess white it is then.

[low token]

Look how long it took them to make pink alumaze

[clear sapphire]

well indeed I just hoped once they locked in a colourway it would be quicker to bring it to the other sizes

[gloomy trench]

isnt the release in may?

[obtuse wagon]

Where did you hear or see that?

[umbral locust]

said who?

[gloomy trench]

on the youtube video if i am not wrong

[umbral locust]

you are wrong lol

[gloomy trench]

oh okay XD

[heavy flax]

is there no frost case anymore

[jade widget]

It's only for the module

[heavy flax]

yea, i have the module selected

[jade widget]

not too sure seems to be missing for me too unless i change my store to a different country (US)

[buoyant solstice]

Not sure what's going on - But it's easter, so I can't promise it'll get looked at till Tuesday.

[pseudo parrot]

ah how strange its gone for me too

[charred valley]

yee

what is this title, 77.5 lmao

[low token]

Because it is 77.5%

[lunar arch]

Mine says July

[gloomy trench]

🥲

[lunar arch]

Placed the order within 4 minutes

[grave wyvern]

Unlucky

[valid comet]

mine is July

[heavy flax]

77.5he

[valid comet]

77p5HE

[low token]

@grave wyvern What did you get

[frail bobcat]

77point5HE

[craggy owl]

hello, Im thinking about getting the 80HE but is there a video with a sound test of it?

[valid comet]

too long

[frail bobcat]

Seventysevenpointfivehe

[umbral locust]

Theres a test on the wooting website

[craggy owl]

ty

[valid comet]

seventy-sevenpointfivehalleffect

[devout spoke]

isnt that one not the actual sound?

[umbral locust]

Why would it not be ?!!

[umbral locust]

Well yeah obv it isn't final, but we have no reason to believe it will be any different, let alone drastically different.

At least for plastic case owners.

[devout spoke]

mass production is a reason?

No reason to believe they didn't try to cut back on lube or padding for cost reasons

[umbral locust]

Even if they made a sound test and then sent you that exact board, it won't sound the same. There are just too many factors. The sound test is there to give you an idea of what to expect.

[obtuse wagon]

Gateron makes the switches so Wooting wouldn't be saving anything by cutting back on lube an whatever was stated to come with the case will come with the case, I would say thats more to just cover bases incase there is a slightest change in sound

I would take all these sound test with a grain of salt, nothing I ever saw on the 60HE sounded like what I received, it was way better than any of the sound test

[devout spoke]

if its better ill be ecstatic cause I don't want to mod an 80he

[umbral locust]

Personally I think sound tests to begin with are stupid and so I have no horse in this fight. It's gonna sound what it's gonna sound like, am buying wooting for performance and features, not as background noise.

[obtuse wagon]

Same, think some folks in here got a little to worked up and started down talking the 60HE sound wise, without realizing what its designed for

[wary abyss]

Nawwww, if I'm paying 300 CAD for a keyboard, it better sound like a top 10% keyboard

[obtuse wagon]

Sure if its from the custom world

This keyboard is for performance

[umbral locust]

That's like buying a rolls royce and expect it to be as fast as a lambo because it's expensive.

two entirely different products with different goals

At the end of the day, they are making the best gaming keyboard they can, not the best sounding keyboard they can, that's a different market.

Besides, sound is subjective. I genuinly think the 60he sounds great. They couldn't please the sound crowd even if they tried because there is no standard. There is a vague notion of "thock" that is pretty meaningless.

Just my humble 2 cents.

[obtuse wagon]

Facts, especially with some folks doing like a handful of mods to a 60 then still complaining about sound, at that point I dont think they ever game, so what was the point of buying the 60HE

[wary abyss]

So it's okay if it sounds and feels like nails on chalkboard as long as the performance and features are good?

[pastel hare]

why do you go to the extreme

[obtuse wagon]

Doesnt need to be 1 extreme to the next tho

ever heard of middle ground

[umbral locust]

No point entertaining a very extreme hypothetical not grounded in reality. But even then, yes. Like I said, I don't care about the sound at all.

That's like me going to a $1000 custom built to sound good and asking is it okay their input time is shit with no actuation point control and no rapid trigger just because it sounds good?

Do you realize how absurd this sounds? If you don't like how it sounds don't buy it lmao

[devout spoke]

.

[umbral locust]

A disclaimer that the final sound MIGHT be different is not the same as saying the sound sample they provided is not actually the 80he.

[devout spoke]

you need to relax im ingame thats a mistype

[grave burrow]

does zinc alloy corride or anything? any maintaince compare to none for plastic?

[wary abyss]

To point out that y'all crazy for not expecting more out of a keyboard that costs 8 times more than a normal gaming keyboard.

[umbral locust]

Im a gamer, not a keyboard enthusiast.

But even if I was, it's crazy to project that sound MUST be just as important to everyone else.

[undone tundra]

keyboards get very expensive

in the realm of custom keyboard 300 cad is nothing

[umbral locust]

No one is buying a wooting because it sounds good and no one will.

They are still trying to make it sound good, but it's not realistic to expect it to match a top of the line custom mx.

[undone tundra]

you can get it to sound decent with o ring or in a salvation/frog. The 80He itself sounds fine

[lime aspen]

Coming from prebuilt gaming keyboards a modded 60he sounds amazing

[limber lava]

how much will the 80he cost compared to the 60he?

[umbral locust]

Honestly, even stock sounds great. Hell, I prefer my stock sound over my custom 60he lol, but I use the custom because it feels better which is what i priorotize.

[umbral locust]

idk your currency check the website

[valid comet]

80HE is literally like asking someone "Gimme the best kb on or soon to be on the market." Its a dumb question only if you already know this piece of info: gaming keyboards are baically normal keyboards with software control and brand taxing that barely lasts and that also is usually more or as anti user-friendly.

again its only a dumb question if you know about what I sent. otherwise its perfectly valid.

i mean if we talk custom keyboards, its way cooler than gaming keyboards. but if you need the performance, make sure the custom kb has what you need.

[pastel hare]

I don't think you understand how building products work

It's not going to be absolutely perfect from the first version. You can always tweak to improve in the future

[devout spoke]

exactly why the 77.5he wont sound like the video

[pastel hare]

saying it's crazy to spend 200$ on a keyboard because it doesn't have the perfect click is absolutely insane. It's subjective

[valid comet]

plus i genuinely love the rnd and endineering behind HE and TMR sensors on keyboards

[fickle monolith]

Can you change the debounce time on the 80he?

[umbral locust]

debounce?

[valid comet]

i dont think so in wootility, but I think it woukd be a cool idea for a FW update!

[fickle monolith]

https://youtu.be/FaoXy9bg2DE?si=NAH-1dIOTAxIb7Lk

[valid comet]

Q1 HE MY BELOVED

[fickle monolith]

The first minute or so of the video explains what debounce is I know there is firmware you can flash keyboards with, but I thought it would be cool if the 80he came with it

[wary abyss]

why do you go to the extreme
😂 Putting some words in my mouth there, boy

[fickle monolith]

Essentially, you can change how many milliseconds the input lasts for games with low frame rate

[obtuse wagon]

I mean you did go to the extreme, yes the keyboard is expensive, but to expect it to be the best sounding keyboard, which is already a personal thing, an be the best gaming keyboard is the crazy part imo

There will always be something in the custom market that beats its, mainly because of HE switches, until there is a silent option, no matter the price, an HE keyboard is going to lose, plain an simple

[lime aspen]

I would absolutely love silent he switches

Take my money

[umbral locust]

fr, good sound, bad sound, how about no sound.

[fickle monolith]

Is there a place where I can leave suggestions

[umbral locust]

#1141096226884956181

[pastel hare]

[valid comet]

ye

[fickle monolith]

Thanks

[valid comet]

do leave your suggestion! ill boost the vote since I like keyboards to be hella granular

[jade widget]

yeah it's the HE switches that are the limiting factor, although they sound much improved on the lekker v2 and jades

my main gripe was the chattery sound of the original lekkers but I bought the keyboard for gaming performance mainly

[valid comet]

despite chatter I think they still sounded OK... after modding

but they were seriously good performers

[fickle monolith]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1223486599158042747

@valid comet Ty for the idea

[jade widget]

eh I think the 80he sounds a lot better

https://youtu.be/EdBW5LY0z58?t=3259

[valid comet]

fact

[obtuse wagon]

Really wondering if that would even be needed with the way Rapid Trigger an the future feature Rappy Snappy work

[fickle monolith]

For some games rapid trigger would result in inputs that are too quick registering in between the frame checks

[obtuse wagon]

Definitely could happen with slower games, especially ones like the vid you posted

[fickle monolith]

Yeah the one game in the vid only checks for inputs every 32ms

[obtuse wagon]

Wonder if certain DKS binds would help in those certain games with unique circumstances

Mainly wondering because we base the DKS bars to certain FPS levels in Apex for the Super Glide

[fickle monolith]

What’s DKS?

[cursive lily]

for me the wooting 80he is only like 50 dollars more expensive than the razer analog so im just gonna buy the wooting

[cursive lily]

jsust checked razer is more expensive

💀

[umbral locust]

YIKES

sorry caps lol

[cursive lily]

XDDDD

[silk carbon]

Almost completed my purchase when I spotted the only keycaps available for ISO ES are ABS... C'mon, why not offering double shot PBT? I would like getting them for 320€ I almost paid...

[cursive lily]

i think only for iso

[midnight iron]

They can’t offer doubleshot pbt as easily due to the cost of molds and such

[cursive lily]

yuh the ANSI ones come with double shot pbt

[midnight iron]

Yep. Basically they do it for the very popular options but can’t do it for the less common ones

[cursive lily]

I dont get whyu would want anything other than ANSI tho can some1 explain

[silk carbon]

Just a few keycaps vary from ISO to ISO ES, making molds fer them should not be that costly, should it?

[midnight iron]

It’s quite costly and hard to justify for small companies to do that

[silk carbon]

Easy, lots of countries in EU use ISO as we deal with special characters

[midnight iron]

Are there 3rd party options for keycaps in pbt doubleshot?

[cursive lily]

ic

[silk carbon]

Wooting is small but got more than 5.000.000€ in two weeks lol

[prisma fjord]

is just on hype rn

[cursive lily]

i think what he tryna say is why dont they just make the extra molds for the special keys?

[midnight iron]

Because not enough demand basically

It costs a lot not just in making molds but they also have to add more processes and sku to their supply chain

[cursive lily]

but imo they could still put pbt keycaps on the normal keys

[midnight iron]

They do don’t do?

[silk carbon]

ISOs are not easy to find, no matter the material, cannot explain how 600 million Spanish speaking people are not a reason for getting good kc, apart from not many form us ordering

[midnight iron]

And abs vs pbt is also a preference thing

[midnight iron]

It sounds like you specifically want iso in a specific format though that isn’t commonly sold

[silk carbon]

Tried both, DS PBT is the way to go for me, ABS starts feeling cheap in not that much time

[cursive lily]

there is the option to get the pbt set

[midnight iron]

He wants a specific pbt set for his sku of iso which just isn’t very viable for them when they’re already trying to keep their sku from going crazy

[silk carbon]

I'm tempted to order ANSI, but imagine waiting for months just to end up with a keyboard you cannot get used to

[cursive lily]

this is from website

[midnight iron]

He wants a specific sub format of iso

[cursive lily]

huhuhhhh

[midnight iron]

Not just iso, but iso for his region

[cursive lily]

there is such a thing

[valid comet]

hi guys

[cursive lily]

oml i donttt knoowwww

[silk carbon]

Every region has his own special characters, it's a mess having accent and different vawels

[midnight iron]

Yeah, different languages need different letters etc

[cursive lily]

my pea brain cannot handle this xD

[silk carbon]

We have DE-ISO, UK-ISO, NORDIC-ISO, FR-ISO, ES-ISO, SWISS-ISO...

[prisma fjord]

Still can't see a problem why he can't buy ISO Spanish keyboard from wooting and order ES-ISO pbt keycaps from third party store

[icy cosmos]

Good morning

[silk carbon]

Additional cost basically

[valid comet]

i took some images through a telescope, have a look in #💬│general !

[wild shale]

Hi ! May I check if the Lekker and Gateron Jade switches that I can order with the 80HE comes pre-lubed?

[umbral locust]

Yes they are both factory lubed 🙂

[wild shale]

oh nice! if i'm currently using Akko Lavender Purple, which of these switches should I get?

[thorny aspen]

this is going to be the most agonizing wait for anything I've ever bought, cuz I keep looking at it everyday

[cursive lily]

i feel ya

[limber lava]

i've heard the apex steelseries pro can have debounce delay, but honestly, I don't feel it

i have the apex pro rn and i have been still going for about 8 months

[plain aurora]

i dont get why it would have debounce delay

it would on the non he switches

[obtuse wagon]

I think the person just wanted debounce control, some games the keyboard may be to fast for

Something weird like the game in vid that was posted

[plain aurora]

o

[obtuse wagon]

Most modern games seem to handle the boards an the features just fine, outside of The Finals, guess the anti cheat for the game consider Rapid Trigger from any keyboard cheating

[brave lantern]

could someone explain what the free switch pack is? does that mean we get a whole extra set of switches to swap between?

[carmine lance]

does “receive an email” mean like shipped or in the process of being shipped

[prisma fjord]

yes you will get extra 90 l45 switches if u r buying prebuilt

[brave lantern]

thought for the module you also get it?

[prisma fjord]

Yes

[jade widget]

for the module you can pick between the l45 and l60 switches

[molten arch]

You gotta buy 1 pack of switches, to get 1 free pack

Went with the module, bought L60v2 and got another pack of L60v2

Gonna replace the L60s on my 60HE with them

Also works when ya buy the Jades for the 80HE, then u can choose between the Lekkers
(Jades are more clacky than the Lekkers)

[drowsy badger]

Hello amogus, How long after purchasing the keyboard can we access the Wooting hub?

[prisma fjord]

as soon as u register on it

[buoyant solstice]

Within an hour typically.

You DO need to create an account though.

[drowsy badger]

I just had access, it hurts me so much to see (Early August 2024)

[timber crescent]

Is it possible to add wooting wrist rest in the order ?

I mean I already buyed the 80he but didn’t buyed the wrist rest cuz I had to think if I really wanted it or not

[buoyant solstice]

Shoot us an email at [e-mail]

[timber crescent]

Done

[molten arch]

Also 16,600+ orders, so its one hell of a que

[drowsy badger]

I'm just like a child waiting for Christmas

[molten arch]

I feel ya xD

Did ya just place an order?

[drowsy badger]

Yes

[molten arch]

Then i feel sorry for ya xD
Was one of the first to order, and i got the same estimat xD

[full cedar]

will the 80he stock be compatible with gateron jades? or does it need stabilizer replacements similiar to the 60he

[molten arch]

Since they offer them on their page, i would guess they work

[upbeat berry]

we are looking into some reports of a handful of people who experience their keycaps falling off of longer keys but we couldnt reproduce this so far with stock stabs

the stabs are made for 4mm of travel

[midnight iron]

it never needed stab replacements to begin with unless you had particularly loose keycaps

[drowsy badger]

Why change the switch? Doesn't that make you lose all interest in keyboards?

[midnight iron]

people like different sounds/feels

[drowsy badger]

does this lose the analog side of the keyboard?

[upbeat berry]

no but currently our firmware would treat the 3.5mm travel of jades as 4mm

[molten arch]

Nope, they are all magnetic switches

[upbeat berry]

so you get some slight inaccuracy

[molten arch]

Just gotta be carefull with the polarity and strenght

[full cedar]

Thank you 😄

[upbeat berry]

also changing switches in the keyboard hobby is as much part of the hobby as is modding video game consoles for people deep in the console hobby

[drowsy badger]

Another question that's a bit stupid, isn't the fact of having a keyboard with 8khz polling and a mouse also at 8khz risk ruining the performance of the computer?

[buoyant solstice]

A keyboard sends infinitely fewer updates than a mouse.

[drowsy badger]

thx luv

[jolly tangle]

a keyboard only needs to send a keypress. a mouse needs to send the location every mm you move the mouse

thats why 8khz on a keyboard is a bit silly

[drowsy badger]

Can we deactivate Windows shortcuts in the software (a 'gaming' mode) to avoid Windows returns XD

[buoyant solstice]

Not really. You still have the faster reaction time.

[buoyant solstice]

You can temporarily disable the win key. Any shortcuts is something you have to disable in the OS.

[molten arch]

I think he was talkin about the win key

[drowsy badger]

Yes, with my current keyboard I quit the game without wanting to

[molten arch]

You could set it to only react when bottoming out

So 4mm press to activate

Or you just gotta control your fingers better 😉

Btw. did wooting manage to catch up with the mails yet?

[low token]

Or get heavier springs

[buoyant solstice]

We're in a much better place now than we've been previously. But caught up? Definitely not - Doesn't help that there's easter holidays till Tuesday

[molten arch]

Yeah xD

If ya got time to look into it, i still cant claim my new role. Even thou the order is in the same account

[low token]

Well it takes time. Just wait

[molten arch]

Trust me, i waited.. Bought it on releas, within the first 8 min xD

Tried to get it to work, but i cant do anything more on my end.

But tbh. its pretty low on the priority list, so it can wait until they got the time to look into it

[low token]

Relink discord account

[molten arch]

Tried it

Funny thing is, the EU-Kampion batch shows up

But not the rank

[drowsy badger]

Did you try clicking on “Refresh rewards”?

[molten arch]

Yes

[verbal solar]

but saaar..... analog.

[lucid karma]

Yeah I’d imagine if you’re using controller modes there’s more data being sent

But also mouse coordinates is one thing but you also have to send a key code which if you have multiple codes may be just as long or longer

[fallow spire]

https://x.com/wootingkb/status/1774036830348091567?s=46

wooting (@WootingKB) on X

This week was no 80HE update.

We tried recording something between developments as an experiment, but it ended up being a bit of a blooper.

We need a moment to collect our thoughts and map out a new weekly update schedule based on timeline.

Twitter · Mar 30, 2024, 11:31 AM

[fallow spire]

Disable key on your FN1 or FN2, I forgot, take a look in remap does exactly@this

[jolly tangle]

goodmorning calder, I was wondering when you have a new update on the 80he for the boys in discord?

[low token]

I cant wait for knob annoucement in 2 days

[jade widget]

https://tenor.com/view/nosy-listening-eavesdropping-eaves-drop-alice-in-wonderland-gif-23235482

[karmic canyon]

keep hearing about the knob but no actual confirmation that its happening

[pseudo parrot]

it is in the works but when its coming dont think they ever said that

[tiny wharf]

Thank you, my product has arrived ☺️☺️

[karmic canyon]

how will a normal switch be able to use a knob though wont it be an entirely new version of the 80he

[pseudo parrot]

Sounds possible since it’s Hall effect also #🌟│wooting80he message

[nova nexus]

If we were planning on making some kind of knob, we would not half ass it and we'd keep it under wraps until it's ready to be presented, except in the unlikely event that Calder talks about it during an impromptu middle of the night discord stage event

[upbeat berry]

lol

[deft basalt]

[buoyant solstice]

Yes

[jolly tangle]

yeah it would also be silly if he mentions that it would interact with the led strip during that stream

[pseudo parrot]

lol

[polar stirrup]

some guy did this rendering a while ago. just an idea of how it would work. nothing official

[winter coral]

I'll do some advertising for it: #1216240474663419995 message

Give it a few likes 🙌🏻

[lapis dawn]

i bougth the 80he how can i geet the rule in discord?

[ebon sluice]

Wooting gaming chair wen?

[nova nexus]

Maglev tech with rapid trigger massage features 🧘

[ebon sluice]

[nova nexus]

Like your discord via the Wooting Hub
https://hub.wooting.io
Then refresh roles

[lapis dawn]

thank you

[dense ridge]

so u want knob to have a knob? why do u need this if u can very easy adjust it in your browser..

[pseudo parrot]

well just imagine if you're in a game, much quicker to adjust something with the knob instead of having to tab out of the game and adjust in wootility

[polar stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37PdSRpsLzA this is why

[dense ridge]

its something that u are changing only once in a few month if not years

[polar stirrup]

i use my knob all the time

[pseudo parrot]

same

[polar stirrup]

to control wheter its sound for headphones or speakers

[dense ridge]

i dont know.. i hate any kind of knob on any keyboard

[polar stirrup]

well thats you

its optional not forced

[pseudo parrot]

fairs its preference

[silk stone]

i like cerakeys

[vast edge]

I never use the knob :(

[blissful bramble]

uhhhhhhh no comment

[low token]

Thats too far

[cedar skiff]

Does anyone know if there's any live pictures of the ghost case?

[polar stirrup]

yeah

[low token]

It was shown on last stream

[polar stirrup]

on a live they did share

[polar stirrup]

#📣│announcements message

[cedar skiff]

Thank you sirs

[warm remnant]

a

[weary wren]

Any chance of a new special edition lekker or gateron keycap set that comes out along side 80he?

[dim sierra]

V2?

[low token]

I dont think so

[bleak vale]

is EU-Kampioen the first 80HE batch?

[dim sierra]

[bleak vale]

poggers

[jolly tangle]

do the happy dance

[forest pollen]

Finally ordered the 80HE!

[tiny tartan]

Is it July yet

[fallen epoch]

It’s September

[hard vale]

check in again in about 4 months or 16 weeks or 152 days

[tiny tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-25783770

[hybrid smelt]

hi guys

[fallen epoch]

[forest pollen]

What does it mean that i only got 77.5%? ahaha

[prisma fjord]

memes

[bleak vale]

because that's how big the ANSI 80HE actually is if you count the keys

[forest pollen]

Oh so it isnt even 80??? REFUND

[bleak vale]

yeah wooting out here scamming everyone on 2.5% of a keyboard

time to riot

[brave lantern]

do I add both to my order or something will show up afterwards?

[gray geode]

cant i preorder a 80he to turkey?

[buoyant solstice]

Remove the free switches and you'll be able to. Then send us an email about it afterwards.

[gray geode]

apparently i still cant confirm the order

[molten arch]

You add one and on checkout it should ask you which one u want to add

[golden rock]

heeeelp

just preordered 2 but nothing showed up in your orders

[buoyant solstice]

It might take an hour or so.

[golden rock]

money gone already

[buoyant solstice]

You should have received a confirmation email as well.

[fallen epoch]

Yeah, give it some time to pop up

[golden rock]

okok

[dim sierra]

if u get email u good

[dense ridge]

no 80he update video this week?

[carmine lance]

does “receive an email” mean like shipped or in the process of being shipped

[golden rock]

got emailed. nice

[buoyant solstice]

https://twitter.com/WootingKB/status/1774036830348091567

wooting (@WootingKB) on X

This week was no 80HE update.

We tried recording something between developments as an experiment, but it ended up being a bit of a blooper.

We need a moment to collect our thoughts and map out a new weekly update schedule based on timeline.

Twitter · Mar 30, 2024, 11:31 AM

[dense ridge]

oh thanks

[golden rock]

will there be any new motion color theme tho?

these things

[obtuse wagon]

possibly 🤷‍♂️ maybe post it over in one of the #📰│wootility_updates topics or over in #1141096226884956181

[daring axle]

probably a tech talk or commuinity dev question, but is there a way to set up custom motion colors to have them be different per keypress? or too intensive for what can be saved on the boards memory?

[buoyant solstice]

Not currently, no.

[forest pollen]

Just bought the 60HE+ Because i'm not patient enought to wait until august.

[hard vale]

great things come to those who wait my friend

[forest pollen]

Two things in my case.

Woothings lmao

[daring axle]

i just bought a keychron recently, so im not terribly in a rush to get mine. i was debating between the wooting and the V1 but i didnt want to go to a 60% so i went with the keychron then they announced the 80he and so i had to buy this one too.

[craggy stratus]

Hello, I have a small question about the 80HE.
I'd like to know what the 1+1 free switch pack on the 80HE Module adventages means.

[fallen epoch]

If you Buy one pack of switches, then you can get another switch pack option for free

For lekker options

[buoyant solstice]

Buy a pack of switches, get a free pack of L45 or L60 switches for free during checkout.

[craggy stratus]

it's a purchase, an offer ?

[buoyant solstice]

yes

[craggy stratus]

okey thx guys (❁´◡`❁)

[warped temple]

Would the software work if I have 0.5 actuation points on all keys besides spacebar 1.0?

[sour lion]

Switched to raw zinc

[dark cargo]

who where preordered the 80he

I DID!!!!

[buoyant solstice]

[jolly tangle]

[grave burrow]

preorder my zinc alloy black

[pseudo parrot]

[icy cosmos]

Would be nice to see how much % of the pre order are Zink vs PCR

[umbral locust]

At least 60/40 split is my guess.

with more people doing PCR

[low token]

Well because it is cheaper

[umbral locust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-well-duh-marge-simpson-gif-13065392267976626430

[valid comet]

waiting for my Keychron Q1 HE and the my Wooting 80HE

[jolly tangle]

im happy we dont get the "why has it no bluetooth" questions anymore

[idle depot]

Why does it not have blueteeth?

Anyways real question though. Is the dye sub keycaps for JIS users?

[hybrid smelt]

I mean it says jis + ansi

[jolly tangle]

@crimson quiver

[idle depot]

Yeah however some of the keycaps have odd markings not on ansi. Like the < > keys.

[jolly tangle]

what the heck does dye sub mean

[crimson quiver]

yes

[idle depot]

Oh It’s a process on how the legends are formed on the PBT keycap.

The keycaps won’t have shine through.

[jolly tangle]

thats cool if u are a keyboard nerd and know that however I bet most people dont (like me). therefore I ping unta 😄

[crimson quiver]

https://wooting.io/post/abs-vs-pbt-what-are-the-best-keycaps#:~:text=Dye-sublimation%3A-,The keycap,-legend is a

[jolly tangle]

bro I know what abs is vs pbt. just the dye sub I didnt know

[livid zodiac]

Dye sub is pure trash

[idle depot]

How come?

I thought it was better than regular PBT hence the higher pricing.

[crimson quiver]

6:30 am brain at 20% atm
but link takes to segment on dye

[dim sierra]

Double shot

[idle depot]

Is dye sub not double shot

[buoyant solstice]

No.

Doubleshot is where you have two layers pour on top of each other. Like with backlit keycaps that can show light through.

DYESUB is where you dip the keycaps in colour that soaks into the plastic.

[idle depot]

Does dye sub PBT shine quicker?

[lament saffron]

You won't likely worry about shining on quality PBT keycaps in general

[daring axle]

i just got the v1. because i needed something without a numpad. and it seems like the keychrons seem generally regarded as good budget keyboards. with it being my first not-a-razer keyboard.

[valid comet]

Q1 HE is my first shift away from non gaming boards even if the technology benefits a lot

I never got any razer products, only logitech (huge mistake, other than the G502 Hero from 7 years ago)

and one corsair keyboard from 2 years ago

the usb port died

[daring axle]

i bought my razer because i was tired of trying to game on a laptop so i bought the first monitor and keyboard i could get and plugged into it. i finally got a propper pc about a year ago and just kept the board i had. but i got tired of the loud switches so i decided to get a decent one

[valid comet]

PBTfans WoB is good from what I know, but thats doubleshot

not dyesub

[daring axle]

if youre okay with them bein hella loud then a razer is a decent gaming board but meh.

even with what little ive done so far since getting into the world of custom boards, theres no reason to get a razer if you can get a custom one

[valid comet]

i dont really want a loud keyboard

linear gang real

[daring axle]

yeah, i have kids. so the browns in the one i have rn are good. they never seem to be bad at least

[idle depot]

I thought that set was dye sub LOL

[daring axle]

i woulda probably gone for the reds but they werent in stock and i didnt feel like waiting

[valid comet]

nope, doubleshot pbt

i have a set

im not using it until my 80HE arrives

[idle depot]

Welp that answers my question I was looking at the set and debating the merits of different types.

[valid comet]

is there a type of keycap set you want

maybe we can help

[lament saffron]

PBTfans are solid caps and shine wont be an issue as long as you dont get the ABS ones

[jade widget]

PBT will shine eventually it takes a lot longer though

[idle depot]

Wait so are PBT-Fans dye-sub since they are solid or a different process.

I'm so confused.

[valid comet]

PBTfans have a roster of PBT keycaps. they could be Doubleshot or Dyesub.

[lament saffron]

If your PBT caps are shining within a few years, look for a better quality cap.

[valid comet]

the ones I got, PBTfans WoB Simple Base is Doubleshot PBT

[lament saffron]

Dyesub or Doubleshot won't matter if they are a good keycap they shouldn't shine on you .

[idle depot]

So simple or complex WOB is double shot?

[lament saffron]

Maybe, might also be dye sub.

[undone tundra]

my pbtfans caps shined in 3 months 💀

[idle depot]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-wob

[undone tundra]

ye those

[valid comet]

simple base vs base, simple has symbols instead of text

and the legends are better on the modifiers (shift alt ctrl etc)

simple base

Jed told me Wuque does a better job with legends on their WoB set

[lament saffron]

If you get the ABS ones then yeah that will happen.

[idle depot]

The legeends don't seem that bad.

[undone tundra]

no the pbt ones

[valid comet]

im just gonna get myself thin gloves lol

[undone tundra]

my gmk set shined in 3 weeks on my most used caps

tho gmk feels better shined so i dont mind it

[lament saffron]

Send me some pics of your shined PBT ones please.

[idle depot]

can you link those?

[valid comet]

but I like the PBTfans legends a bit more imo so I decided to get simple base instead

the symbols design grew on me :)

[idle depot]

Yeah they are pretty cool ngl

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/collections/keycap/products/in-stock-ws-pbt-wob-keycaps

these are also double shot interesting, apparently space bar bending can happen is that an issue?

[undone tundra]

@lament saffron this is what happened to mine, I'm not sure if this is actually shine but it feels like it

[lament saffron]

Any plastic is susceptible of warping

[undone tundra]

this is pbtfans wob simple

[idle depot]

oh wow

[undone tundra]

i have very sweaty hands and I type a lot

im not blaming the keycaps here, but this can happen

[lament saffron]

Yeah that's not plastic shine. That's oil and residue

[idle depot]

Can you wipe that off?

[undone tundra]

my gmk doesnt have this tho it has shine and it feels nicer than stock

[undone tundra]

nah tried it b4 shit wont come off

pbtfans does nice shit tho

I wanna try their abs line eventually, their klein blue keycaps look sick

[idle depot]

How can you prevent sweat causing effects like this? Blasting your AC up?

[undone tundra]

maybe not game 13 hrs a day like I used to could help

[lament saffron]

Yeah actual keycap shine like on ABS, looks like this. I do like the feel too lol

[undone tundra]

yeah thats more of how my GMK looks tho not to this degree

[valid comet]

i just didnt want my windows key to be called "win"

[idle depot]

I win

[undone tundra]

its called super iirc on pbtfans

[valid comet]

i wanted it to be like super or code or neutral

[jade widget]

My gmk wob after 1.5 years of daily use

[idle depot]

wow tha tlooks pretty decent

[umbral locust]

Worrying about shine is overrated

It's like tryna keep the tires on your car clean, just use the damn thing.

[jade widget]

Yeah there's a little shine on my shift key and my w key starting to develop

[low token]

Looks dusty

[valid comet]

some of the best ABS?

[umbral locust]

GMK is the best ABS

[valid comet]

les GOOOOO

im so excited to get my 80HE to use my PBTfans WoB Simple Base!

my friend really loves the sleek nature of the board btw

problem with ne and shine is the grip goes

and my finger slips and slides, I need a ton of control

[umbral locust]

Normal wear and tear, everything degrades. You can invest in more expensive keys that will last longer, but they will show signs of wear at some point.

[valid comet]

yeah thats why I got the PBTfans

[umbral locust]

I skateboard, I learned very quickly not to get attached to things because boards look new for like 5 minutes.

[jade widget]

dusty ass house for sure cleaned this keyboard a week ago

[low token]

Tho gmk looks perfect

Like always

[silk carbon]

Just a little detail... Is this model wireless?

[umbral locust]

Nothing wooting makes is wireless

[silk carbon]

OK that's a drawback for me then, thanks

[silk hedge]

Enjoy your caviar then

[magic plover]

Question, does the wooting 80he module come with pre-lubbed stabilziers?

[umbral locust]

ye

[magic plover]

cool thanks

[robust dawn]

is there any advantage for gaming when using zinc alloy over PCR plastic?

[idle sage]

No

[robust dawn]

will i not lose grip when sweaty fingers over metal?>

[idle sage]

well the keycaps are plastic

[robust dawn]

i mean the zinc alloy

oooh so not the keys but the case is zinc alloy....

[idle sage]

Yes

[robust dawn]

thanks mate

[idle sage]

no problem

[undone tundra]

yes when you rage zinc alloy will be harder to pick up cuz of the weight so you can not throw the keyboard out of the window

[idle sage]

i never thought about that, you are totally right

[robust dawn]

will there be a rappy snappy keyboard with numpad?

[undone tundra]

the 2HE will get the update so ye

[undone tundra]

i am a self made innovator, these guys should hire me

[idle sage]

seriously i feel you can innovate the industry even more

[undone tundra]

truth has been spoken

[tiny tartan]

[idle sage]

they should also make a case made out of like tungsten or something really heavy to prevent you breaking it from raging 💀

[daring axle]

dude a tungsten case would be so damn heavy

[idle sage]

lmao fr

[daring axle]

would be like a 15 pound case

[robust dawn]

8k polling on the 2HE also?

[idle sage]

i dont think so

unless they make a whole updated version

[robust dawn]

3HE SOON?

[idle sage]

lmao

[robust dawn]

[idle sage]

the wooting 80he will be my first wooting product, im so excited

[robust dawn]

what mouse u have

[idle sage]

i have a glorious model i, its alright. nothing too spectacular

[robust dawn]

viper v3 pro razer soon

next month probably

[idle sage]

sweet

[robust dawn]

i play 800apm game

sometimes 950

but on a deathstalker v2 pro keyboard by razer, optical low profile

[idle sage]

??

i am not familar with "apm" lol

[robust dawn]

800 - 950 actions per minute

[idle sage]

oh

[robust dawn]

which is around 15 - 16 actions per seconde

i heard of wooting and now im here

[idle sage]

lmao

[tiny tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/sloth-slow-stamp-gif-8535595 my apm

[daring axle]

80 will be my first too. i just got it because i heard its good for gaming

[valid comet]

same

jumping from K70 RGB TKL, gonna be INSANE

[daring axle]

and i was debating getting one already but i didnt want to get a 60%

then they announced this after i got a keychron

[idle sage]

im gaming on an old office keyboard

its quite sad

[robust dawn]

bro i need the numpad for work also...

[valid comet]

i also got a Q1 HE coming in

[robust dawn]

but i need the high polling rate also

[valid comet]

soon

[daring axle]

i only use my setup for gaming so meh, i had a full size and i kept hitting it with my thumb, cause i have like no desk space. but i dunno a 60% seems too small

[idle sage]

the wooting 80he is basically the best of all worlds

[tiny tartan]

you can buy a cheap numpad on amazon

[valid comet]

ill tell everyone how my experience with the Q1 HE is

[robust dawn]

but the 80he doesnt have numpad

[idle sage]

fair but i personally do not need the numpad

[robust dawn]

i understand

but i need calculator to calculate profits

while stroking my beard with left hand

[idle sage]

FR 60% is so small i need the f row and arrow keys

[robust dawn]

who needs fkeys what r they for, to enter bios ?

[daring axle]

macros sometimes

[robust dawn]

i just need the all in one thing 3HE

work and gaming

[idle sage]

yeah i understand

who knows they could make an updated version of the 60he and 2he with 8k polling 🤷‍♂️

[robust dawn]

2he with 8k polling and zinc alloy is all we need

[daring axle]

im sure itll happen eventually

[robust dawn]

i will pay 360eu for that

[daring axle]

yeah. i paid like $380 for my 80

[robust dawn]

why so much its only around 320 pre oder

[daring axle]

i got the 45 and the 60 g switches and a lube kit. so it was a bit of add ons to get there, but i figured im already spending money so i might as well go ahead and get the extras too

[idle sage]

i pre ordered the 200 usd one, i might get a case for it in the future but i personally dont think i can justify buying the zinc alloy right now

[daring axle]

yeah, i should have probably but i figured if im already spending a bunch of money on a board i might as well goall out

[robust dawn]

i buy the zinc alloy to buy it for life

[robust dawn]

you should never enter casino

[idle sage]

that is very true

[robust dawn]

[daring axle]

listen my guy, i know i have terrible spending habits. so much so that its a running joke amongst my friends that theyre staging a lifelong intervention for me to try and get me to stop spending all my money. i dont get anywhere near anythng even remotely close to gambling. i want to control when i waste my money.

[robust dawn]

then waste it well

[idle sage]

i would not count buying the wooting 80he as a waste of money

[daring axle]

i mean, i have a board that works just fine atm, so buying a new one with a bunch of features that i will probably never be able to effectively use is meh. its a bit of luxury spending on things that i dont need.

[idle sage]

thats very fair

[daring axle]

as long as i know that im spending that kind of money on something that i dont need then im fine with it.

[idle sage]

bro that is complete facts

[daring axle]

and like, my bills are paid so why not? i spent years being a strong contender for champion of the "who can eat shit and die the hardest" tournament so now that i make decent money and have some extra im a get myself some nice things

[idle sage]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-straight-up-gif-21244543

bro there is still 15 days left of the founders campaign, omg time is going by so slow

[jade widget]

Aye man in terms of hobbies even within the custom keyboard scene this is a cheap board

[idle sage]

i wouldnt call it cheap but its definitely much more worth it than almost all of the other boards on the market.

[daring axle]

i mean yeah, ive seen some boards that are just the pcb and case that are like $350-400 before the switches or keycaps. but when you get into true luxury boards then its not about practicality at that point. there is a practical use to this one, its just not really one im good enough at gaming to be able to use to its full potential. but someday i might be able to.

[idle sage]

i dont even understand what makes a luxury board

[daring axle]

expensive. that seems to be about it.

there soesnt seem to be any better features

[jade widget]

A lot of stuff, usually low batch numbers high quality custom stuff is expensive. Exclusivity plays a big factor

[idle sage]

kinda stupid in my mind because im more about the practical uses in gaming and such

[jade widget]

Yeah that's not what most people enjoy about mechanical keyboards it's all about feel/sound/aesthetic

[idle sage]

from what ive heard the 80he sounds better than the 60he

[jade widget]

It does sound a lot better from what we've heard so far

Although I imagine a lot of that is the updated lekker itself

[idle sage]

yeah

i do care about the sound of a kb but in the wootings case i care more about fuctionality

[jade widget]

Good thing they're giving us a free set so I can replace the v1s in my 60he with v2s

[lime aspen]

Gasket mount + new lekkers probably most of the reason

Might jump the gun and buy jades rn

[idle sage]

i really dont get expensive mice lol, i feel like they are way too light

[jade widget]

I feel like the closer the mouse is to feeling like just your hand the easier it is to control

[lime aspen]

If you have good mouse control this is true

Most people lack the mouse control for lightweight mice

[idle sage]

i lack mouse control

[daring axle]

i lack mouse control at all.

i suck at any game that require mechanics in the slightest

[lime aspen]

I had good mouse control before I fucked my wrists up now I'm washed

[idle sage]

i think 70 grams is the perfect balance of lightweight and not making me pissed lol

[lime aspen]

My current mouse is 55g

[idle sage]

whats ur mouse?

[lime aspen]

But anything lighter and the shape isn't what I like as much

[lime aspen]

Lamzu Atlantis 4k

If ulx wasn't overpriced garbage id buy one

Full size and ~40g would be cool

[idle sage]

yeah

[lime aspen]

Basically all of the lightweight mice are too small for me

[idle sage]

i hate how specific my preferences are for mice, most top tier mice on the market are not to my liking

[lime aspen]

Yeah my hands are odd so once I find a shape I stick with it

[jade widget]

I'm just collecting mice at this point

[lime aspen]

I shouldn't but I want to buy more

[idle sage]

i really want a wireless mouse but i cant find one that is perfect for me

[lime aspen]

Im in love with lamzu Atlantis shape

Would be cool if they make a lighter/someone makes a lighter Atlantis clone

Id love lamzus magnesium mouse but idk when I'd be able to buy it if they are ever back in stock

[idle sage]

i like mice shaped like the g502

[lime aspen]

I need curved but a wide side profile for mice

[jade widget]

Then it would be full circle, Lamzu Atlantis is pretty similar shape to the XM1

[lime aspen]

Debating whether I buy jades or not

[lime aspen]

Yeah its basically an xm1 with more curves isn't it

[jade widget]

It actually hasn't been released yet it got delayed, just a few people who have early units

[lime aspen]

Is it going to be continuous production or limited batch

[idle sage]

i think you should go for it if you really want to

[lime aspen]

Id have 10$ in my bank account

[jade widget]

Continuous once it releases like all their other mice

[lime aspen]

But shit it would sound so good

[lime aspen]

Oh sweet so I can actually pick one up, I'll wait for QC to get ironed out when they have made a few batches

[daring axle]

then id say wait for a paycheck and make sure your bills are paid first

[jade widget]

https://fxtwitter.com/Lamzugear/status/1769546073020977295?s=19 could take a while

[lime aspen]

I don't got bills 🤷🤷

Might just bite the bullet and do it

[lime aspen]

Patience is a virtue I guess, I'm fine with my Atlantis

How similar is the tachis shape to Atlantis

[jade widget]

Rather a delayed product than a bad one 😎

[lime aspen]

Meanwhile finalmouse, delayed product and a bad one

[idle sage]

after i recover from buying the wooting 80he im probably gonna pick up a logitech g502 x lightspeed

[jade widget]

More similar to the Maya but has flatter sides

[daring axle]

in that case, i envy you. but if you dont have bills and you have the money then i cant see a reason not to if its what you want to do

[lime aspen]

Flatter sides is kinda unfortunate but as long as the width is alright I'm fine with it

[heavy flax]

is there really any difference on this

[ebon sluice]

yes... $7.99

[spark hound]

It really depends.
It won't make shipping to the warehouse faster. But from the warehouse to you it might be faster.

[umbral locust]

Consider it a form of gambling.

[lime aspen]

Expedited was my only option, and it was 25$ more than yours

[icy cosmos]

What makes you love this mouse? Have you tried it yourself or are you in love with the sound of magnesium?

[dusk mortar]

Is there an image/render of the frost case with rgb/lighting on?

[lime aspen]

If it's similar shape to the Atlantis, and is lighter. Im very certain I'd love it

[dusk mortar]

I'm pretty sure it's more similar to a maya. Not really a back hump nor does the front go outwards

[icy cosmos]

Since mouse and keyboard are very personal, there are no sensible arguments against one or another. But as a person who have tried every shape of Zowie. I would rather buy 3 mouse of different shapes to rotate than one with exotic materials. Shapes matter more.

[pine gate]

I bought an Steelseries Aerox 3 on sale, the best mouse I have tried so far

[viscid hazel]

if i try to build 80he for white one what should i choose switches?
for rappid triggers

[jade widget]

Shame steelseries has the worst software I've ever used

[jade widget]

Up to you the l45 and l60 are the same just one has lighter springs so 45grams of actuation instead of 60

Jades are a lot more expensive but supposedly people say they are the best out rn but we're yet to see the lekker v2s properly

[celest laurel]

Are Jades compatible? Heard they’re like to short?

[lime falcon]

they wouldnt be in the wooting store if not compatible

[undone tundra]

stop listening to people saying bullshit

same with the stab shit with the 60he and jades, it all started from a guy using $10 keycaps

[celest laurel]

all right, great to know!

[celest laurel]

yeah fair point

[hollow ocean]

hey how do i get the 80he discord role

my girlfriend bought it as a gift so ive got my wooting hub account linked to my personal email, which is not the email used to make the order rip

[buoyant solstice]

https://help.wooting.io/en/article/transferring-ownership-of-your-wooting-keyboard-or-pre-order-rvf3t0/

In that case you'll need her help.

[hollow ocean]

i see, ill get her to follow these steps. thanks for the help 🙂

[buoyant solstice]

YOU need to do this, not her

[hollow ocean]

my bad lol

[hoary ferry]

Does the zinc alloy version have any nickel in it?

[buoyant solstice]

Might? It has a finish though.

[violet garnet]

will the zinc alloy sound test be its own video?

[lapis dawn]

logitech the best

[lapis dawn]

good girlfriend ahahha buying a 80he i want one like that

[vale quail]

Very quick question that I don't think warrants a #1019755933959733258 thread, but, will the 80HE (and other Wooting boards) be fully reprogrammable? As in even entirely different layouts from the standard Qwerty layout?

[pseudo parrot]

Yea I believe I’ve seen Dvorak and those in wootility, unless im wrong

[vale quail]

Ah, that's good to hear, Colemak-DH user myself, so do depend on it.

[pseudo parrot]

One second I can double check this

[vale quail]

80HE is looking really promising, and to be honest, glad Wooting went with a compact 80% rather than straight-up TKL.

[fallow spire]

You can remap the keys to whatever you want. You can check wootility demo to see all the options

[pseudo parrot]

yes i found this

[vale quail]

Oooooh, wasn't aware there's a demo. By the way, is it still possible to visit the office? I've visited you guys before, was a fun and informative day. Do wish to try out the 80HE in real life before making the decision.

[undone tundra]

do you plan on having the lekker v2s on the store by themselves anytime soon? sorry if this was asked b4

[vale quail]

Nice, it's probably just Vanilla Colemak, I'm using a pretty wild combination of Colemak-DHk with ISO Angle-mod, yes, you may point and call me a nerd.

But, I wager you can also go completely custom.

Getting Moonbase Alpha vibes from the Dvorak example. xD "AEIOU!"

[pseudo parrot]

no i totally i understand, i have a moonlander which i also wanna remap to colemak haha

but i guess as calder said you can also remap the keys to whatever you want and make your custom colemak layout

[vale quail]

Ah, awesome! :D

[fallow spire]

Things moved around, Netherlands doesn’t have an office spot anymore, all from home. We have 2 locations in Taiwan. We in general only have optional office space

[odd arch]

you use colemak?

[fallow spire]

Yeah, working on the 70 packs. But needs a little time as we’re confirming some improvement regarding the magnet.

[vale quail]

Ah, okay. And yes, I do, @odd arch! In fact, fear I completely unlearned Qwerty.

[odd arch]

nice do you speedtype or anything?

[vale quail]

I type blind at least, I'm not any faster on it than Qwerty, but feel it's much more comfortable to type on, words flow nicer on it.

[odd arch]

yeah true i use vanilla colemak it's amazing

[vale quail]

Join the Colemak-DH side, we have cookies.

[odd arch]

i don't see any extra benefit on the dh mod

so i have never really considered learning it

[vale quail]

Ah, fair enough.

[undone tundra]

perfect, might pick them up if they are below 43 eur/70

[odd arch]

at what speed can you type? @vale quail

[vale quail]

Averaging 90 WPM on 1 minute tests. As I said, I'm not fast, even though I'm old enough to be from the MSN Messenger times, I only focused on proper typing techniques on the last decade. x.x

[odd arch]

nice that's very good

[vale quail]

Oh whut, there's a Zinc Alloy case option!

[pseudo parrot]

zinc looks so nice

[vale quail]

Might end up getting the barbones and put my GMK set on it. (Got many more key kits for it, so will be compatible with the 80HE.)

[rigid sphinx]

How is is Lamzu mouse? I'm thinking of either picking one up or getting the Sora V2.

[vale quail]

I was exactly doubting between those two, the Lamzu is really nice, good shape, light enough and no issues with it at all.

[rigid sphinx]

Web-based configuration?

[vale quail]

I honestly didn't go with the Sora because not directly available yet, fastest dongle isn't even included for some reason and it seems to be a claw-grip focused mouse, I'm a palmer myself.

[vale quail]

And that's an issue too, so no love for Firefox users.

Firefox doesn't allow WebUSB/WebHID, so stuff like that or for example VIA(L) don't work.

[rigid sphinx]

You can also use Chrome for just setup.

But I actually prefer web-based configurations.

[vale quail]

I know, just don't want that much Google stuff on my main PC.

[plain aurora]

you dont need to use google chrome, just use ungoogled chromium

and pressure mozilla into adding support

[rigid sphinx]

Oh, i didn't even know there was such a thing.

https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium?

Would Wootility work with this?

[plain aurora]

in fact any chromium baeed browser will work like brave which is also FOSS and ungoogled

personally im a firefox user but just have ungoogled chromium installed for wootility and making sure any web dev stuff i work on works fine on chromium too

[plain aurora]

yeah thats what i use

its a bit cumbersome to use as a regular browser since u need to install an addon manager addon but if all you use it for is wootility then its gold

[jade widget]

No web based yet but Lamzu is working on adding it, same with a lot of the brands in that space

Mice are kind of set and forget for me anyway can uninstall the software as soon as I've configured it

[chrome vector]

If I purchase Wooting 80HE, will I be provided with a USB cable?

[idle depot]

Yes

[chrome vector]

alr ty 😄

[silk stone]

i cant wait to get my 80he pwder coated

[steel grove]

https://wooting.io/wooting-80he Go down to "Them specs and data" and open the "What is inside the box"

[chrome vector]

[rose crane]

why is it only for mx cherry keyboard

isnt every keycap the same

[chrome vector]

this is c to c cable ?

[rose crane]

yes you get like 3 cables

look at the last sentince

[chrome vector]

oh okay

[steel grove]

I would stick with the cables that are provided inside the box for now.

[buoyant solstice]

Cheap rubber keyboards use a different stem to out keycaps on. Same thing with some older, rare alternatives for mechanical.

But you're right. Like 99% of boards use cherry mx

[tired epoch]

I have a question about the possible future availability of cases.
I'm torn between the raw zinc and ghost case.
If I get the raw zinc one now, could I possibly buy the ghost case later after the 80HE has become regularly available?

[pseudo parrot]

you can buy the pcr cases for now yes

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-80he-pcr-abs-case

idk if it will be available later on however

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. 😃

[chrome vector]

I purchased the product, I used my account A, but when writing the product email, I mistakenly wrote it as B. As a result, I haven't received the product under my A account.

nvm fixed

[winter coral]

Why?

[tired epoch]

Thank you very much for the answers 😄

[humble cargo]

its not, almost every mech kb on the market is cherry mx compatible

[steel grove]

Since there is no difference between the provided ones and the coiled one (at least for me), that money could go towards a wrist rest or something else, like a custom case.

[chrome vector]

[steel grove]

The waiting begins ! 😈

[remote moss]

[idle sage]

congrats!

[pine gate]

Any Nordic people recommending good sites for keycaps that will fit on 80HE?

[toxic zephyr]

maxgaming really

.fi and .se are a thing at least

[buoyant solstice]

https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/keycaps_2/
Also sometimes an option - be sure to tick off "in stock" as it ALSO* shows old GBs

[rose crane]

Is the wooting 80he compatible

With those sorts of keycaps

[buoyant solstice]

Yes. 🙂

[rose crane]

Okey thank you

[buoyant solstice]

But - Artisan keycaps like that with the filled out diorama are typically only used for the topmost row of keys. Typically replacing the Escape key