🌟│wooting80he

[red heart]

They showed raw zinc in the stream a few days ago

[rigid sphinx]

Would you ask for a refund or ask to switch to a PCR case if it did not sound good?

[cursive lily]

i cant wait

[unkempt field]

i think they mentioned when the final product is almost ready, you would be given an option to swap

[nova nexus]

I just refunded someone $20 who was unable to use the "OLD_TIMER" discount code for their 80HE purchase, earned by being a Wooting One backer

[dense ridge]

even between plastic and zinc?

[nova nexus]

Hope that was you, not that I refunded the wrong person 😅

[unkempt field]

yes sir

[cursive lily]

cant wait so excited

[unkempt field]

you can switch cases through the hub on the website

think i heard it on the livestream or read it here somewhere

[dense ridge]

@cursive lilywhat case is it? solid black plastic?

[cursive lily]

solid black

[rigid sphinx]

Even for prebuilt option?

[winged pelican]

about the order cancelation email - if I have multiple order numbers should I reply with

CANCEL [123,456]?
CANCEL [123][456]?
CANCEL [123],[456]?
what's the right format 😄

[unkempt field]

prebuilt not too sure

[cursive lily]

i just ordered as it is

[nova nexus]

Any will work as long as the first word is CANCEL

[viscid vessel]

thanks so much mark! i replied with some relevant info, hopefully it's enough, otherwise i can try getting ahold of my old man and see if he has the confirmation email still

[unkempt field]

wooting one backer 🙂

[icy cosmos]

Get both

[dense ridge]

why do i need 2 bro =)?

[fickle flint]

Will the wooting 80he be with screw-in stabilizers or something else?

[dense ridge]

will decide when we will get real photos

[icy cosmos]

So you don’t have to choose

[dense ridge]

hope it will be this week

[dense ridge]

yes it comes with scew in

[nova nexus]

Screw ins

[viscid vessel]

i love my wooting one, been waiting for an HE model in roughly the same form factor. can't wait to get my 80HE!

[cursive lily]

whats the role for the founder campaign

[cursive lily]

ah

[unkempt field]

can't wait too

[cursive lily]

didnt discover until 1year ago been waiting for the 80

[red heart]

This is my exact situation haha

I think a lot of wooting one owners from back in the day have been looking for something similar with HE

[unkempt field]

didnt know about wooting until the 60HE

[river wharf]

I wonder how good will the stabilizers feel,
with the holee mod, when I lightly tap the corner of the keycap it wont have the ticking noise

[unkempt field]

i remember back in the day when i ditched the keyboard i had on my first pc because it was mechanical and noisy for a membrane keyboard thinking it was on upgrade, how the tables have turned

[viscid vessel]

lol

[viscid vessel]

the 60HE looks nice but i actually need my a lot of the keys it cuts sadly

and the full size Two is just too much keyboard

[unkempt field]

yep i needed the cursor and F keys

i was going to pull the trigger anyway, but kept putting it off until the 80he arrived

hows the wooting one, positivity?

gonna watch a review of that on youtube now

[viscid vessel]

i love it

[unkempt field]

nice

[viscid vessel]

my one complaint is that the switches are pretty sensitive to certain angles of light, i have accidentally fried a couple switches by placing them inconveniently by the window

[unkempt field]

interesting

[viscid vessel]

but otherwise they're pretty great, nice and responsive. i got the linear blues

or uh, clicky blues. the clicky ones.

[unkempt field]

OG wooting user

i see

[icy cosmos]

Was it the light or the heat😂. You need some intensiv light to kill a switch 🤔

[lunar dragon]

Are we still getting an update this week, as "promised" in the live stream?

[viscid vessel]

Dunno, it was hitting it just right though it was constantly triggering the key, and one day stopped working entirely. I replaced the switch and the next one died less than a month later. At this point I have conceded I simply don't have a left windows key. Oh well, not a very necessary key, and something better is on the way.

[red heart]

Yeah i had issues with this when i had my desk next to my window

It needs really specific angle to the light tho

So its only really a problem 30 minutes of the day and only in winter

[cedar portal]

The switches themselves or the switches on the keyboard?

Kinda afraid now because sunlight hits my desk often

[red heart]

The 80he doesnt have that problem

[viscid vessel]

I'm not a big keyboard head so I don't know the difference, but I assume the switch part you can pull out and replace was what busted because swapping it out did fix it for a bit.

[red heart]

The wooting one uses different technology

[viscid vessel]

Mhmm, magnetic fields for the analog readout makes this a thing of the past.

The optical switches are cool in concept but admittedly overengineered when the hall effect is a well established thing.

[unkempt field]

Wiz, do you have any other wooting keyboards beside the one?

[red heart]

No

[unkempt field]

ok

[red heart]

I waited for the next tkl with f row

[unkempt field]

got it

[pastel hare]

Me too

[red heart]

I honestly think this is the case for a lot of wooting one owners

[low token]

Only we need 40% and numpad wooting. And remember. No knob and 75%

[red heart]

By the way, if you want to breathe some life into your wooting one, get the lube kit and lube your switches

Makes a very big difference

[viscid vessel]

Ooh, I'll think about it. I need to see if I can source some spare flaretech switches too, might be able to relocate the keyboard or find it a loving home once I get the 80HE.

[red heart]

Just make sure you do it right

If you lube the prism that can break your switch

[viscid vessel]

I wish I could use it for work but my job is super anal about security and the Wooting's onboard memory could theoretically be used as a USB.

If any of the devs had a way to brick the onboard memory on purpose you'd be my hero 😂

[low token]

Um what super

[unkempt field]

dont sell it 😄

[viscid vessel]

just a way of saying very uptight

[red heart]

I lubed my one just recently and i can whole heartedly reccomend it

My switches had gotten scratchy from years of usage and it all feels great and smooth now

[low token]

I do not know why you cant use keyboard

[viscid vessel]

A theoretical corporate superspy could hide company secrets on their keyboard's onboard memory.

[red heart]

I was thinking of giving my one away once i‘m done with it but at this point i feel like i might just keep it around

[viscid vessel]

Thus, nobody's allowed to use keyboards with onboard writable memory.

[unkempt field]

i am a hoarder

i kept my shitty ms natural keyboard pro and elites somewhere

[red heart]

I remember working at a company that had insane security and shit for their kitchens

And the kitchens only

[unkempt field]

damn

[viscid vessel]

lol

[red heart]

They has a whole separate network and building, shit ton of cameras, different security and only very few people got access

[viscid vessel]

jesus

[unkempt field]

i use a 2005 mx518 for work

[red heart]

I had to get someone to open the door for me

[unkempt field]

it still works

[red heart]

Guess what industry that was in

[viscid vessel]

i just have some nice generic cherry keyboard, they at least had the decency to provide me with an okay keyboard since they denied me my own

[viscid vessel]

military contractor

[unkempt field]

wow, they actually gave you a mechanical keyboard

[red heart]

Chocolate based sweets

[viscid vessel]

LOL

[viscid vessel]

yeah i can't complain, they were a pain in the ass about equipment but then they actually furnished some good acceptable equipment so it's whatever, you know

[unkempt field]

thats impressive

[viscid vessel]

still like my wooting better

[unkempt field]

did they give you a gaming mouse too?

😄

[red heart]

Like, ive been at a development facility for pest control in agricultural settings and more, they had way laxer security

[viscid vessel]

nah, just a generic ergonomic mouse

[unkempt field]

ok, at least its ergo

[viscid vessel]

gaming mice have too much onboard memory for the RGB, you see

[unkempt field]

haha

you sound like u work for a military contractor

[viscid vessel]

honestly i feel like if someone can encode corporate secrets into an RGB controller they have just plain earned the win

[red heart]

Can the humans at your company have onboard memory?

[viscid vessel]

nah, have in the past though lol

[unkempt field]

haha

[red heart]

Sounds like a security issue

[viscid vessel]

you have to submit to lobotomy when you sign up, only one half of your brain is allowed to hold company secrets

and it has bitlocker

[red heart]

Understandable tbh

[unkempt field]

reminds me of "Severance"

[red heart]

Cant have anyone remember what they did at work that day

[verbal cape]

yo great show

[unkempt field]

it is

think s2 is releasing this year

[verbal cape]

need it

[unkempt field]

haha yea

sorry, offtopic. but i highly recommend shogun

the tv series

apologies, back to keyboards

[red heart]

Is gmk worth the money

Its like 200+ euro for all the keycaps i need

[viscid vessel]

probably not but they do look pretty

[unkempt field]

can you buy the cerakeys ceramic keys for 200 euros? 😛

[viscid vessel]

what's the benefit of ceramic keycaps vs the double shot plastic wooting uses?

[unkempt field]

im not an expert, but i think ceramic keycaps have a deeper sound

[buoyant solstice]

Benefit? It's all personal preference, sound and feel.

It ain't making you a better gamer.

[unkempt field]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DpkrjQ69zDU

fwiw i just got the wooting dbl shot pbts

[viscid vessel]

ooo...

i think a deeper more solid feeling keycap qualifies as a benefit

i don't know if i'd drop 200€ on it though 😂

[unkempt field]

hahah

your military contractor job should be paying you well enough

i heard lockheed martin pays well

j/k

[verbal cape]

It's next on my list for sure. I started episode 1 and got game of thrones vibes.

[unkempt field]

its gets even better as you go along

[hidden crest]

yeah been waiting for that to finish so i can binge

[jade jacinth]

👍🏻

[unkempt field]

🥳

[fallen epoch]

Delicious doubloons to fund cool things

[viscid vessel]

former job! i decided i liked having a soul better than money

my new place are just security freaks too lol

[unkempt field]

LOL

[unkempt field]

i thought you already placed your order for the 80HE, when are you turning yellow like the rest of us

[viscid vessel]

that's a good question, i have no idea. Mark is helping me get my OG role (Dad backed it on my behalf), i'm sure we'll get the 80HE role sorted too

[unkempt field]

alright

now you need to order a 80HE for your dad

[viscid vessel]

that man is an ipad baby he uses a laptop for work and that's all

[unkempt field]

haha ok

[dreamy fox]

[frozen flint]

[tight cypress]

🥳

[pseudo parrot]

another uwu

[frozen flint]

whats the uwu even for?

[dusky sage]

W

[pseudo parrot]

media controller, macro pad, rhytm games etc

[frozen flint]

oh ok

[cedar portal]

There should be a Wooting
W
UwU
as a WASD pad

[umbral locust]

I can't think of a game where I need HE WASD pad but only the pad.

I need other keys lol

[pallid haven]

so basically it’s my birthday so if i buy the 80he could you guys give it to me like two months before everyone else 🥺🥺🥺🙏

pretty please with a cherry on top

[nova nexus]

Not possible

[static junco]

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[pseudo parrot]

perhaps i should email and inform you guys but ill post here too. i cancelled my 80he order last week, already updated in the hub and recieved money back. i still have the batch role in discord (refreshed rewards more than once and it stil does not remove the role)

[fickle flint]

I hadn't seen that the free pre-order switches were only for the assembled 80he 🤡

[low token]

You forgot white wrist rest

[umbral locust]

you get free switches with the module too

[fickle flint]

did not appear here

[static junco]

i just ordered my 60he+ 😎

[low token]

Ok

[umbral locust]

Did you actually buy switches?

[low token]

Did you select switches?

[umbral locust]

It's buy 1 get one 1 free.

[fickle flint]

I hadn't seen that you got extra switches, otherwise I wouldn't have bought it lol

now it's gone, there is a fee to cancel for me

[low token]

You can ask support to add switches for you

And you will pay for them

Also what fee

[pseudo parrot]

i think this one (might be wrong) #🌟│wooting80he message

[fickle flint]

no, it's a fee from my credit card for international purchases, they don't refund me that amount.

[tight cypress]

Nah, I don't really like wrist rests

[eager sundial]

Zinc update when

[pallid haven]

the software will allow you to remap any key right? so if i just remap the pause key to del it works fine? and does it save to onboard memory or do you need to have software running for any changes to work like razer?

[umbral locust]

yes. yes. onboard memory. no software needed

[compact wasp]

its saved on the keyboards memory, you can use wootility in browser 😄

[pallid haven]

alright thanks

[valid comet]

my keycaps for the 80HE are here!

[low token]

Well I did not pay fee. Where are you from

[valid comet]

yes I accounted for the extra mode key

[low token]

Show us

[valid comet]

sure

PBTfans WoB Simple Base

[pseudo parrot]

thats a nice keycap set

[umbral locust]

I also just got mine today.

Now just to wait a few more months for the 80he lmao

[low token]

Worth it tbh

[idle depot]

OOOO. Hows the quality I’ve been eyeing them up.

[fickle flint]

Brazil

[fallen epoch]

My drop latte set finally getting shipped

[nocturne topaz]

Those keycaps would look amazing with the ghost case

[fallen epoch]

WoB always clean

[low token]

No wonder

[valid comet]

gonna open them up in vc wannna see

i took removed the package bag that has my address

so I can unbox in vc

[steady escarp]

Everglide HE switches are here

[fallen epoch]

I see they were delivered via carrier pigeon express

[umbral locust]

Could you share the link for those? Im interested

[steady escarp]

Whoops meant to post in modding

I got them from alibaba from shenzen yaya there’s no link you have to ask for them specifically

If I see them on Ali or anything I’ll post a link

[umbral locust]

Ah I see. Can't wait to hear your impressions once you get to test them.

[valid comet]

the legends are great

i have no issues with them

they are as advertised

[jade herald]

i dont know if i can handle the wait

@meager acorn

[ebon sluice]

Bro went to sleep with his switches and woke to the smell of sweet roses. How romantic :

[idle depot]

Ah glad to hear sorry I couldn’t join vc got distracted with something.

[valid comet]

its ok

[idle depot]

Dye sub pbt feels just like regular PBT right?

I have the ROG Keris and the mouse buttons have PBT on them.

The best way I can describe it is a grainy texture.

[fallen epoch]

Dye sub to me feels a bit smoother than regular doubleshot

But i might and most likely am wrong

[tawny flame]

Is it still batch 1 for order? Asking for a friend

[umbral locust]

yes

It's at least 75% full though

[tawny flame]

Thanks

[jolly minnow]

Apologies for asking a silly question, but why doesn't the zinc alloy raw option show on the order page? They talk about it, but I don't see the option anywhere.

[noble sigil]

you gotta select the module one

[jolly minnow]

Thank you so much. @noble sigil

[lunar pelican]

Kinda looking forward to seeing the final version of the raw zinc version. If it looks as good as in the preview image I'll probably order one

[sage chasm]

whats the main diffence from the 80HE PCR & the 80HE Zinc alloy. why the 100$ increase?

[umbral locust]

One is plastic and one isn’t

Plastic ie cheap 🤷‍♂️

[sage chasm]

is the 60he + plastic or?

[pseudo parrot]

ABS plastic

[sage chasm]

what did most of you guys get the 80HE PCR or the 80HE Zinc alloy?

[tight cypress]

Zinc alloy

[fallen epoch]

I went with pcr

Getting zinc later down the road, the raws nice

[pseudo parrot]

I think I will also order an uwu with mine, such a nice little device

Zinc white is beautiful

[umbral locust]

I prefer plastic but if the final zinc cases look really nice I might switch

[lunar pelican]

Metal cases are so good

[umbral locust]

It’s all preferences really there is no wrong choice when picking a case for the 80he

Having 6 options is 🔥

[jade herald]

@meager acorn

[jolly wind]

How do you get the role for being part of founder campaign for 80HE

[tight cypress]

Bind your Discord here and claim rewards https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

[jolly wind]

Ooo I'm having an issue with my order linking. I emailed about it, but it seems like my order isn't associated with an email... just my Shop account lol.

Waiting on the response to that, but thank you for letting me know to link them! I'm sure it'll be fixed in no time. 🙂

[hot sinew]

i went with the plastic case just bc i think 3rd parties might make better cases

[buoyant solstice]

You used a specific email during checkout. That is the one you need to create on our hub as well.

Only exception to this, is if you accidentally made a small typo and didn't receive an order confirmation email from us after checkout.

It is very common for US customers to use iCloud emails or Gmail by accident during express checkout

[jolly wind]

Maybe I made a typo? Because yea, I have no confirmation email- just the tracking info on my Shop account.

[buoyant solstice]

Well whatever the issue turns out to be, we can definitely help correct it manually.

[jolly wind]

So, at least I can verify my identity and such once support team gets to me, but likely something I messed up in haste to order as quickly as possible. Been tracking this KB for a while ❤️

[jade widget]

Wouldn't be the first and probably not the last

[past bison]

Is there any way to get the prebuilt founders 80he with the clear plastic case? Or will that always be for module purchases only?

[jolly tangle]

module only

[past bison]

And the free switch pack only comes with the prebuilt version? Nothing with module right?

[tight cypress]

If you buy a switch pack with module, you'll get another one free

[glad fable]

sweet deal

[tight cypress]

But it's nice to get additional pack of L45s
Yellow ones are tastier

[jade widget]

I like the 60s just gonna use my extra pack to put in my 60he

[fallen epoch]

Yeah ill give the 45s a shot for one switch but 60s are pretty perfect for me

[tight cypress]

I'm waiting for L80 springs, to put in my 80HE

[fringe socket]

if i order my 80he on the 7th of april would that be 1st or 2nd batch

[past bison]

Ah ok, didn’t realize that. Thanks!

[violet garnet]

If you get an answer let me know please, I have a similar question to yours

[jade widget]

Depends if they sell out of batch 1 or not first ~20k units. Over 15k sold now but not sure if it includes people buying multiple boards in that number

[fringe socket]

alright, so if it is second batch do you think that will arrive mid august maybe?

[jade widget]

No idea I'd imagine it could be later than that

[tight cypress]

Second batch will be shipping somewhere in September

[jade widget]

Even batch 1 is just an estimated date

[fringe socket]

ill keep that in mind, thanks

[umbral locust]

45he when ?

[tight cypress]

After 75HE

[umbral locust]

Lekker 75s confirmed

[frigid ravine]

i just forgot what was the mysterious reward for the 80he founder campaign, was it the extra switches?

[umbral locust]

name on website i think

[jolly minnow]

Now the wait for my raw zinc case.

[raven dragon]

Will there be another version of the 60HE with some of the improvements in the 80HE? E.g. 8k polling, snappy, etc.?

[umbral locust]

Maybe, but not any time soon

[raven dragon]

I love my 60HE and excited about the 80HE!

[lime aspen]

Rappy snappy id going to all boards

8k polling likely won't

[umbral locust]

I like that the 80 has screw in stabs, gasket mounting and a pc plate by default.

I hope the 60he prebuilt gets the same treatment

[jolly minnow]

I believe they said in their videos that we'd see rappy snappy rolling out to the other boards very soon. As for the 8k polling, they said it's not possible because it's a different mcu in the 80HE.

[obtuse wagon]

From the way it sounds, seems like the MCU on the 80he wouldn’t fit on the 60HE with everything else

[wary abyss]

How hard is it to find the same springs but stronger?

[umbral locust]

Just search wooting springs on ali express

I have some 18mm 70s on the way

[sage chasm]

i dont understand "Rappy Snappy" can someone explain it to me in more dumb down terms. whats so speical abt it and makes it different from the 60% and just in general?

[tropic quest]

i suffer from a rare disease, the doctors say i have one week to live. my last wish is to use the 80he. can you guys please ship it to me now

[wary abyss]

Lets you strafe dodge bullets like a god

[sage chasm]

this gonna be a hella stupid question - but is in like with the keyboard or if i buy the 60% keybaord is it an update that i would do or its only for the 80

[humble cargo]

60he is slated to receive rappy snappy in an update the same time as 80he so it doesn't make a difference in that case

[sage chasm]

so besides size is there any difference? im hella indesive so tryin to figure out my best option my b for the stupid questions

[humble cargo]

80 has a fancier case design, gasket mounting etc supposedly improving sound/feel

[sage chasm]

but all techinical stuff is the same?

[humble cargo]

feature-wise the same afaik except for 8k polling which is a marketing gimmick

[jade widget]

60he if you order now will have the lekker v1 switches which have more wobbly stems

[sage chasm]

no clue what polling means (i use a 5 year old corsair keyboard i got in 2018)

[jade widget]

Just means it's marginally faster at communicating signals to the PC

Not something you'd notice

[sage chasm]

o lol

[sage chasm]

i assume the 80% will have v2 switches then?

[jade widget]

Yeah I'm sure they'll update the 60he to have v2s at some point as well

[humble cargo]

it can be a benefit to mice input but the pros for keyboard connections are very much debatable

[sage chasm]

you think it would be a bad idea to get a 60% now then or do i wait a few months?

[jade widget]

I think it's still worth getting the 60he if you want a board now

[sage chasm]

like are switches a big deal or not really?

[jade widget]

You can always swap the switches out if you want less rattle it's not too difficult

I've been using mine with v1s for 2 years

[humble cargo]

I'd say only if you're a keyboard snob

[sage chasm]

loool hhaha okay well thank you guys

[jade widget]

Yeah coming from an old corsair board I doubt it will bother you much

Form factor is a bigger consideration do you want more keys?

[humble cargo]

there's a bit of wiggle in the switches but it doesn't affect performance in any way imo

[sage chasm]

ok so that was my debate cus im so used to have a 100% keyboard. so smaller will def be intersting. i dont use the numpad ever and i couldnt really think of games whre i would need to use the arrow keys but i wasnt sure

[humble cargo]

went from 30+ years of fullsize use to 60% a year and half ago now and its been mostly fine

arrow keys is def what I personally miss the most, the rest not that much

[umbral locust]

with mod tap and fn layers it's really easy to get used to 60 imo

[humble cargo]

I sometimes use my macropad just for arrow cluster

[jade widget]

Yeah although I got use to using mod tap on my 60he I'm looking forward to the dedicated arrow keys and f row my on 80he

[humble cargo]

if I had another couple hundred bucks to blow I'd be tempted to go 80he but what I got works so

[jade widget]

I'm just down bad for new peripherals can't help myself 60he was suppose to be end game

[humble cargo]

having macropad with arrow keys next to the mouse is extremely handy for helldivers 2 stratagems

speaking of games benefitting from arrow keys

[polar stirrup]

i use arrow keys by using mod tap on caps lock to go to fn2, and wasd

really useful

[prisma fjord]

That's not just a gimmick that's a piece of tech which could be an advantage in the future

[humble cargo]

using that as well and it servicable in most cases

[polar stirrup]

your reaction time cannot perceive a diff between 1ms and 0.1ms

most people is around 100 to 250ms

[humble cargo]

I mean on paper its technically better but I doubt it'll ever make a noticable improvement in real world conditions

[ebon sluice]

I think I could go twice as low

[humble cargo]

currently due to how taxing 8k polling is on the cpu/usb protocol etc its directly detrimental to your performance more often than not

[sage chasm]

what is mod tap

[prisma fjord]

[humble cargo]

two functions on a key, quick press/tap for one function, press and hold for another

[umbral locust]

damn

[sage chasm]

o hmm

[umbral locust]

My best so far

[ebon sluice]

feels more like a guessing game imo

[umbral locust]

I'm on my laptop chilling in bed though, I suspect on my desktop with a cup of coffee in the morning i could probably do better.

[prisma fjord]

That was 3 years ago like in 2020 💀

[humble cargo]

yeah even when I try my hardest to hypertap the key as brief as possible its almost impossible to get below like 50ms

[ebon sluice]

I'm deducting -50ms just for having aussie internet

[humble cargo]

at least consistently

[umbral locust]

theres too many factors, your connection, your screen, your input etc

[umbral locust]

I agree it's not really indicative of real world reaction time, on a screen or otherwise

[crystal locust]

Pre firing

I once got something at around 10ms. I think I just clicked without seeing anything. But there’s an off chance that it really was a reaction 😂😂😂

[prisma fjord]

pre-firing I had 6

[crystal locust]

We gamers do unspeakable things

[humble cargo]

what matters is your lowest consistent score

[prisma fjord]

average *

[crystal locust]

My avg prolly 170

Lows around 160

Highs 190

[humble cargo]

yeah anything below 150 I consider lucky flukes

[crystal locust]

I’ve played fps and watched a lot and some reactions I had or seen someone have I don’t think it’s entirely bs

[humble cargo]

some people do indeed have very fast reflexes

[crystal locust]

Just like its fluke reactions in that human benchmark

They’ll have fluke insane reactions in game

[humble cargo]

but when it comes to things like 8k polling we're starting to compare 1ms with 0.1 or lower and its just ridiculous at that point

[wind tiger]

ik some people that could get just below somewhat consistently

[humble cargo]

we're firmly into housefly reflex territory there

[wind tiger]

also gotta consider that that site adds like close to 100ms

[prisma fjord]

I believe s1mple had like 100~ on his peak

[valid comet]

ok I said I would send my keycaps

[crystal locust]

Like if you hold a paper thin angle where people run and get the headshot I think you’re in that margin. But you might have pre fired. As said it’s hard to prove

[valid comet]

well the image of them

[jade widget]

https://youtu.be/1N_6kFDQRaE?si=l_U1NXqU_ey0U5my

[valid comet]

PBTfans WoB Simple Base

• Doubleshot PBT
• White legends on Black keycaps
• Cherry Profile

for the Wooting 80HE

[humble cargo]

others can probably average lower, for me the average is probably around 160-180

[valid comet]

also yes there are more keys on the 2nd layer

have a nice day and gn

[prisma fjord]

yeah he had like 150-160 average excluding 95ms prefire

[midnight iron]

realistically reaction times isn't anything really connected to how fast pros react in games and doesn't have much to do with how you'd use a keyboard either

[humble cargo]

yeah so much else at play in a game, its rarely just waiting around for one predictable instance to occur

[drifting shuttle]

is there a way to get silent switches for the upcoming 80HE? I don't like the typing sound at all lol. I know most people like their preferable sounds, I like no sound with very little actuation force. 😁

[prisma fjord]

yeah if u r not a sniper

[jade widget]

Nope

[midnight iron]

people are able to pull off the crazy reactions etc due to anticipation and prefires etc, not really because they randomly see a pixel and reactively shoot

[drifting shuttle]

sucks, so much innovation left on the table still!

[prisma fjord]

you can get ANC headphones

[humble cargo]

even then there's so much else apart from just spotting and reacting to enemy presence

[drifting shuttle]

yeah I'm waiting for the Sony ones. but still. Will have to settle for super light presses, maybe we'll have under 28g ( per alimarket) by the time 80HE rolls around.

[humble cargo]

maybe your opponent reacts slower to seeing you but the time it takes from doing that to lining up an accurate shot is faster than you

[drifting shuttle]

Like if you're doing regular work/surfing, doesn't typing sound annoy you? It's like a useless ambient sound. Imagine just doing work without hearing it, kek.

[prisma fjord]

yeah true that's why pros aren't just fast reaction guys but a players mastrering the game itself

[midnight iron]

reaction time =/ keyboard usage feel on top of this. For example people can notice 10-20ms difference in strafing timings with rapid trigger+lower actuations vs no rapid trigger, yet 10ms isn't all that much variance in a reaction timing test

[humble cargo]

or being able to move better while still keeping crosshair on target etc

[umbral locust]

no am usually listening to something

[jade widget]

I'd say most people enjoy the sound of their keyboard, even when I had clacky blue switches

I did recently purchase silent switches for the office

[umbral locust]

Like I have sound preferences but when am actually using a keyboard i dont really care about it lol

[humble cargo]

my old chinese mech kb with blue clones was not an enjoyable auditory experience

[drifting shuttle]

Yeah I'm more of the pragmastist, the sound isn't bad, but doesn't provide me any value. lol

need HE silent switches!

[wind tiger]

I use silent switches in the office rn, still loud af

in fact this board might be louder than my other office board with mx browns

[humble cargo]

mech switches can only go so quiet

[wind tiger]

nah they can go REALLY quiet

bobagums for example

[drifting shuttle]

mouse and keyboard space still so much innovation bois!

[humble cargo]

but can they without starting to compromise other things

[midnight iron]

how you type matters too. Some people just type harder than others

[drifting shuttle]

need silent split 8khz keyboard wooting.

[wind tiger]

said silent board is from between 1989 and 1995

[wind tiger]

yeaaaa but you can't really bottom out lightly on cream dampened alps

unless you type slow

[jade widget]

I got some wuque studios silent tactiles for my office board

I wanted that silent sound but without the mushyness of most silent switches

[wind tiger]

that is the tradeoff

can't really make them super quiet without mushyness

silent topre is about as good as it gets ig

[jade widget]

"Wuque WS Silent Tactile Switches are tactile switches that utilize small cutouts on the stem railings to help dampen the sound of the switch. This helps to achieve a more crisp bottom-out and return while still maintaining a very silent profile. These silent switches are unique because it doesn't use the typical silicone dampeners most silent switches opt for."

[wind tiger]

they are not as silent tho

[jade widget]

Yeah but if it's quiet enough to not annoy people that's good enough for me

[wind tiger]

I just can't stomach making a silent build when I could make a good sounding one

[humble cargo]

if people get annoyed over a well dampened and lubed linear board they're either very easily disturbed or you're a hard typer

[drifting shuttle]

i'll take mushyness but we don't have that option in HE gaming KBs! gahhh

[wind tiger]

then pay gateron to make a silent version

[jade widget]

Nobody has complained i just don't want to be that guy

[drifting shuttle]

ya will do. 👍

[tight cypress]

L80s and L100s will soon be available here
Along with L35s, L70s, and springs from current switches - L45s and L60s

[wary abyss]

But I already have 2 sets of L60s from the 80HE ☹️

[tight cypress]

That will be only springs - so you'll be able to just modify one of your sets

[mental lily]

hello, I have a question for the wooting team. Why do I have to pay a 100eur premium just to get a white case and will there be a white pcr case in the future?

[humble cargo]

because its zinc alloy

its the same with the black zinc version

[upbeat berry]

there is a white pcr case called frost which we couldnt make available as a prebuild though so only the module version gets access to it

[mental lily]

oh ok then, is it on the site already and ive missed it?

ooh i see, the clear/transparent one

[upbeat berry]

yes its not solid white but a translucent white

we will probably expand the colors available like we did for the alumaze but theres no timeline or guarantee for that

[mental lily]

is there anywhere I could see how it looks irl or not on a white background rather?

[upbeat berry]

hmmm idk if we have shown it in the stream yet or not.

[tight cypress]

WIP one on the latest stream

[humble cargo]

would love some more product photos of each version yeah

I get some aren't completely finalized yet

[mental lily]

oh I found it on the last stream

its just transparent, maybe translucent if you will but not even close to white.

[buoyant solstice]

Translucent for sure. It isn't pure transparent.

[mental lily]

I dont understand what whas the decisionmaking behind the translucent cases, like do people actually want/like that so much?

[plain aurora]

might be a generational thing. i love them tbh.

[buoyant solstice]

yes

[humble cargo]

I'd go for either of the transluscent ones if I got a plastic case 80he

[tight cypress]

Same here

[mental lily]

whats so nice about the translucent ones for you guys?

do youwant to see inside the keyboard?

[buoyant solstice]

Are we discussing or ranting? Because it's way too damn early in the day to listen to someone rant about how there isn't the exact case option they wanted, and how everyone else should feel bad for the selection.

[mental lily]

nono discussing, haha. id just like to know, im curious

[humble cargo]

looks nice, and a bit nostalgic for any 90s kid

[tight cypress]

I think smokey one would pair nicely with dark grey and blue keycaps
White one with some softer light grey/white ones

[mental lily]

trust me, I wouldnt care to rant about a keyboard, ive got more imporant things in life

[humble cargo]

https://p7.hiclipart.com/preview/1018/252/934/nintendo-64-controller-super-nintendo-entertainment-system-playstation-video-game-playstation.jpg

[plain aurora]

transparent cases are cool to me because i like being able to see how something is put together internally. though obviously the wooting case isnt very transparent or anything.

[mental lily]

Oh, its good to hear some other opinions, and when you put it like that I now understand your prefrences a bit more. Well, I wish you guys a good time with your 80he I will pass for now since I already have a good enough keyboard but I will definitely keep an eye out for it in the case a white case comes

[jade widget]

there's a white case it's just made of zinc not plastic

[tight cypress]

[mental lily]

I know that but im not paying 100eur more if I dont need to. Ill wait, I am patient

[buoyant solstice]

You might wait forever - We have not announced any plans for a white PCR case.

[humble cargo]

make a vintage beige version

[eager sundial]

just get the zinc

[tight cypress]

Get translucent one and spray paint it white from the inside

[upbeat berry]

i mean yeah spraypainting the case is always an option

[jade widget]

make @buoyant solstice's purple translucent with specks pls

[upbeat berry]

atomic purple like nintendo?

[jade widget]

yeye

[wind tiger]

just buy translucent and dye

just be careful to not boil it

[viscid hazel]

is white one smaller than black thing?

size look different

[wind tiger]

one has no case

[upbeat berry]

the right one is without a case, switches, keycaps as it says

so its slightly smaller until you build it

then its the same case

[humble cargo]

so if you go for module + case I assume you get all the dampening materials etc the pre-assembled has

[upbeat berry]

yes

[viscid hazel]

so black one size is look bigger because of the case?

[upbeat berry]

yes

[dim pelican]

anyone know what specifically "1+1 free switch pack" means? is it just a full set of switches orrr?

[viscid hazel]

can i use with out case?
for look more slim

[humble cargo]

you can but not exactly recommended

[upbeat berry]

can yes but it also means the keyboard is more vulnearable to liquid damage and other stuff getting onto the pcb

so we wouldnt recommend it

[mental lily]

doesnt it void the warrenty?

[upbeat berry]

only for the case

[mental lily]

I just might, didnt realise you 🤓 were a member of staff

[upbeat berry]

unless you get spraypaint onto other parts somehow

[mental lily]

oh ok, you gave me something to think about now. thanks tony

[rustic idol]

If you choose the module and pick the L60 you will get a pack of L45 free during the founder's campaign, works the other way as well

[forest night]

can i get wooting 80HE originally intall the L45?

[buoyant solstice]

No. Completely DIY.

[forest night]

okay,btw

how can i cancel the order,

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account
Contact us via the hub or email at [e-mail]

[forest night]

thx

it means,i need to respond the email?correct?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[forest night]

i already repond the email,pls deal with my problem asap,i want by the metal one!

sorry , i mean buy the metal one

wooting80HE,Zinc Alloy,White .this is breath taking,nice design

MY order number is US72036A@buoyant solstice

PLS

[humble cargo]

they'll get to your order when its ur turn in the support queue

[neat hatch]

Would switching the keycaps remove a little bit of lube from the switches?

[buoyant solstice]

No. Because the lube is inside of the switch, not on top of it.

[neat hatch]

Bet

[buoyant solstice]

You're putting the keycaps on top of the + shaped part at the top. The lube is all inside of the housing on the spring and parts.

[forest night]

too slow,need faster.

[humble cargo]

keyboard not done until summer anyways, there is time

[forest night]

I mean, the relevant processes need to be optimized

[tight cypress]

It is
Hence why 80HE related tickets are not high priority, since it's still at least 4 months

[buoyant solstice]

Well...the payment verification aspect is time sensitive on our end, and has high priority. But anything releating to CHANGING an 80HE order in any way other than a straight up cancellation is indeed on hold - And we've sent out emails to everyone waiting.

[runic sigil]

Is it possible to customize the keycab on 60he+?

[red heart]

You can use almost any keycap

[runic sigil]

How long will it take to get the product of this order EU162883H

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

[haughty smelt]

shieeett early August? any way to wait faster?

[runic sigil]

I have done it already

[wind tiger]

what does it say there

[pastel dust]

Everyone’s waiting time is the same. You will be the first batch to receive ur 80HE so just chill.

[tight cypress]

[grim cobalt]

Oh wow

Mine arrives in July

[runic sigil]

oh , tks

[tight cypress]

That's 60HE

We're waiting till July/August for our 80HEs

[grim cobalt]

Ah I see

[umbral pawn]

I assume CS is still overloaded with tickets etc, been receiving quite a good response time last week but it just ended..

should I drop a reminder email or just wait? not sure how the system queue works in the ticketing system

[soft quarry]

whats faster 45 or the 60 switches

[humble cargo]

no speed difference

[nova nexus]

You're welcome to send a follow up, but it's not necessary

[humble cargo]

just weighting

[unkempt field]

hello wootites, 121 days to go

[warm karma]

can i change L60 to L45 if i already ordered (free pack)?

[buoyant solstice]

Module? Yes. Preassembled? No.

[bronze cobalt]

is there any advantage of the zinc alloy than pcr plastic rather than durability for wooting 80 ?

[rustic idol]

Durability, sound and more premium look

[tight cypress]

Self-defense tool

[fallen epoch]

Also that

[digital elm]

a legit brick

[compact wasp]

Durability? As if the plastic case would break/chip with normale use

[viscid vessel]

also i like the feeling of metal on my skin more than plastic if i ever rest my hand on it

[rigid sphinx]

don't forget the hefty weight and feel.

[sick harness]

I placed a new order. How can I apply for a refund for the old order?

[olive dove]

On the hub

[gritty prawn]

just pre ordered 80HE. may i ask, how do i get the discord role?

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account
You wait an hour or so. Then you create an account on our hub and link up your Discord.

[plain aurora]

need to go to rewards section on wooting hub profile and click refresh rewards

[gritty prawn]

alright. thanks guys!

[vast edge]

w

[gritty prawn]

[main badge]

w

[sage wing]

I've seen that on the website the switches are Lekker v2's, what is the difference with the normal ones? Can't find anything about it

[sage wing]

When trying to buy the 80he, it says Lekker v2, that's what I mean

[lime aspen]

Idk what exactly changed but lekker v2s are gonna have a lot less stem wobble

[sage wing]

Ok, let's see if it will be useful to switch my Lekker on my 60he to the V2 switches

Will wait some reviews and comments on them for that

[lime aspen]

I'm going to

[sage wing]

Because I don't care about noise, and I don't think that going from the normal to the v2's will make me hit headshots in Apex and valo 😂

[lime aspen]

They will just feel better because less stem wobble

[sage wing]

If I will have a lot of issues with non or extra registering s switches on the global switches I might consider it, but for now I won't do that (still haven't received my keyboard, so I will see when it arrives)

[lime aspen]

There isn't any issues with keys registering on the current ones

They just wobble a lot

[sage wing]

And I'm used to an old hyperx keyboard given by a friend who already has two sets of keycaps with some missing anyways and being wobbly as hell too (cherry red's I think)

[sage wing]

Perfect so yeah, if I can try it on someones keyboard one day or comparison videos, I may do the change

[sonic kindle]

Is the 80he better or worse than the 60he

[sage wing]

Technically better since it can achieve 8k polling rate

[lime aspen]

Technically better but the difference is unnoticeable

[sage wing]

I don't know what it will do besides lowering down the latency but it's very low already with 1000hz polling of the 60he and low actuation point

[lime aspen]

Whichever layout you prefer is the one you should choose

[lime aspen]

Its literally just 0.8ms less latency that's it

[sage wing]

Exactly
The only thing that should taken into account is the form factor

[lime aspen]

It goes from 1ms to like 0.125, which isn't possible to even notice

Form factor and different types of first party case material is the only difference

[sage wing]

You are just not good enough when driving your tractor on farming simulator man to notice the difference

[sage wing]

Also, other cases will be impossible to find I think, I don't actually know but will the PCB be compatible with other 80% cases, 60% are like everywhere

[lime aspen]

No it wont

For third party cases they would need to be made specifically for 80he

[sage wing]

To conclude the response, yes it is better but completely unnoticeable by any human ever, the 80he has more keys obviously and is a bit bigger then, nut has zero second party customisation for the case, not like the 60he

[lime aspen]

80he has true gasket mount as well

[dusky tiger]

just ordered wooting 80 he black zinc :3

[buoyant solstice]

[sage wing]

True, and has an RGB strip 🪩🪩🪩

[buoyant solstice]

More of a bar than a strip really*

[sage wing]

May I ask, what were your favorite chooses for the cases? Why not raw zinc? It's so unique and insane in my opinion

[fickle flint]

Me too, I sold my 60he to buy it, and I prefer the 60% layout lol

[sage wing]

4cm strip 😅

[dusky tiger]

black fits my Zowie monitor, glorious mousepad + glorious mouse

[small rune]

Any zinc case sound test?

[lime aspen]

If you prefer the 60% why swap

[sage wing]

Fair enough, I ordered the alumaze in concrete grey (and I like the anodized effet on it) to a bit of color, just ordered a red mouse pad too, it's not only black on black, let's see how it will be (haven't received any of them for now xD)

[sage wing]

Same question here

[lime aspen]

I have a white glass pad and a black artisan pad

[trail flint]

Odd question does this mean my order will have 2 free switch packs?

[lime aspen]

My artisan is mostly a keyboard mat now

[sage wing]

Sick, ordered an artisan pad too, the Hayate Otsu

[lime aspen]

No just 1

[lime aspen]

I loved my zero xsoft but glass pads are just👌👌

[trail flint]

That was what I thought but I just had to be sure

[sage wing]

Way too quick for me (I've 'ever tried them but I'm more of a slow guy, heavy mouse and so on xD) so the Hayate Otsu is a nice step towards speed already I think

[lime aspen]

I play 20-30cm/360 on glass pads

Speed is fun

[sage wing]

That's a high sens holy

I'm like half of it I would say
Like 35cm for a 180

[fallen epoch]

Yeah im also within 20-30cm/360 if i remember correctly

[fluid ruin]

I dont really think 20-30cm/360 is high tbh, more feels like you just play on really low sens

[lime aspen]

20-30cm/360 is faster than most people can handle

Anything below 20cm/360 is where you get into being so fast it makes you aim worse

[fluid ruin]

idk at least in fortnite im pretty much the definition of average sens and im at 28cm/360

[lime aspen]

28cm is not average

Average for top players maybe, not average for kbm

[fluid ruin]

are you basing that off video games in general or specific to a certain category

[lime aspen]

The average kbm player has shit mouse control and straight up can't aim on 20cm

Kbm players as an input on any fast paced fps

Most of them have shit mouse control

The average player is... Really really bad

Like its shocking how bad average actually is

[fallen epoch]

I know I cant flick for shit personally

[mild grove]

LGG Saturn Pro ftw

[eager sundial]

tracking smooth aimstyle is better

[lime aspen]

Glass pad supremacy

[lime aspen]

Best aimstyle (I used to one trick smooth tracking)

[fallen epoch]

Yeah im far better at tracking

[umbral pawn]

Interesting how do you calculate that?
I do 1600DPI on let’s say.. CS2 im at like 0.5-1 sens

On a Skypad

[lime aspen]

Online sensitivity calculators or just use aimlabs

[eager sundial]

i mean tracking for single tap hitscans as well btw. Not just tracking heroes/ guns

[fallen epoch]

Also very important

[eager sundial]

tracking the head is just more consistent than going for flicks

[eager sundial]

Good pad, but the zero is better

[lime aspen]

I mostly just know what cm/360 I'm playing because I've used it so long I know what cm/360 1600 dpi is at X sensitivity on games I play

[eager sundial]

imo only ofc

[lime aspen]

Also it's the only way I do sensitivity on aimlabs

I wish games would just use cm/360 universally would make it so much better

[fallen epoch]

Currently using a deskmat, my saturn pros in the closet

[lime aspen]

My artisan zero is literally a keyboard mat

[eager sundial]

Saturn pro is on my side desk as well lol

[lime aspen]

I use my glass pad 99% of the time

[fallen epoch]

Lmao

[eager sundial]

L, my skypad is a plushie seat

big ass dog sits on it

[lime aspen]

My zero xsoft is a glorified keyboard mat/wrist pad

[sage wing]

It's what I'm always thinking, why is it not universal?

[eager sundial]

[lime aspen]

Most people wouldn't even be able to understand it

[eager sundial]

Skypad was fun tho just not good unless you play super fast games

[lime aspen]

Even in tac fps I prefer my glass pad

[eager sundial]

each to their own if you like it use it

[fallen epoch]

I just like shooting the sensitivity setting in my games until it hits the right spot

[sage wing]

The things is it doesn't have to be understood, it's like right now, nobody knows what the sens option mean in each game, but there it would just be the same for every game

[lime aspen]

People who use the same sens across every game they play🤢🤢

[sonic kindle]

Why exactly did they pick an 80% instead of a TKL

Imo TKL would be so much better

[eager sundial]

I mean it’s pretty impossible if you play tac fps and any other game

[sage wing]

Well, from valorant Cs and R6, I would keep the same

Then I just wing it for adventure games etc but I would still like to have the same scale for everything

[lime aspen]

R6 I would play wayyy faster than val or cs

[sonic kindle]

Honestly if it was TKL I would have bought it instead of the 60he

[sage wing]

Hate the TKL form factor

[lime aspen]

On r6 I play around 31cm, apex is usually 25cm and cs/val is like 40

[fallen epoch]

I play a ton of Smite where i have a higher sensitivity there

[sonic kindle]

Why it's so good and there are so many parts for it

[buoyant solstice]

That's not true at all.

[lime aspen]

Tkl doesn't have a standard

[sage wing]

And I've 'ever used the keys that are on a t'il like ever in my life, all these pagination keys etc, never pressed them once intentionally

[fallen epoch]

Arrow keys my beloved

[lime aspen]

Arrow keys aren't necessary for me at all

[sage wing]

Which you can aheb on the 60he with some options

[sonic kindle]

To me it packs enough keys in without feeling too crowded

[lime aspen]

I use fn when I need them

[sonic kindle]

Yeah I use function every day

[lime aspen]

I really only ever use arrows for YouTube/in my browser so holding fn for them is fine

[sage wing]

But you can have them by default when putting them on tapping on your shift Ctrl alt etc

[languid bolt]

Do we have a date of when the lekker v2 switches will be in production?

[mild grove]

i say no ! for me the Saturn Pro is better

[eager sundial]

agreed!

all personal preference after all :D

[fallen epoch]

The real best pad is no pad

Return to your roots

[wary abyss]

How do you deal with high DPI in windows and games that force software cursors? The only reason I don't use a high DPI setting is because some games use a software cursor that don't respect window's sensitivity scale so I would have mismatched sensitivity

[eager sundial]

that’s relatable. Minecraft on laptop with Microsoft mouse

[mild grove]

test this: freefall sv base control+ v2

[fallen epoch]

classic

[eager sundial]

Nah dude I spent like 400 on pads last year in retired from buying pads for now

[languid bolt]

Damn but there are new pads coming out soon

[eager sundial]

i like what I have so :P

[languid bolt]

Valid

[eager sundial]

Also replacing soft pads can be a pain and

[marble ruin]

i need that artisan type 99

[languid bolt]

I like mid pads now cause of the stiffness, for some reason soft pads are okay for but I dunno

[mild grove]

best pad ever the (old day i played in the EPS Germany) 1.6 CS

[eager sundial]

Good talk, mid pads are the best

[wary abyss]

what's your favorite way to wash pads

[eager sundial]

I avoid washing them often with water and soap, usually just lint roll twice a day

[wary abyss]

but when you need to?

[eager sundial]

But After months if they get really dirty then yes I deep wash them

[lime aspen]

i just got used to it

[languid bolt]

Vaxee pa is the one I liked the most but I might find some other mid pads soon

[mild grove]

Distilled water to wash them

[lime aspen]

i used to main 4k dpi and used it perfectly fine in desktop

[wary abyss]

did you just set windows sensitivity to minimum?

[lime aspen]

god no

6/11 4k dpi

no mouse accel

[frail bobcat]

Reminds me of this one dude who couldn't tune his val sensitivity because he played 12k dpi and had to run fucking 0.004 sens which made each change in his sensitivity settings a massive leap

[sage wing]

Talking about it, I had it enabled on my laptop when I played overwatch and R6 on it, I'm almost vomiting when I enable it now, I have no idea how I did it

[lime aspen]

12k dpi also has insane amounts of mouse smoothing so it feels like garbage

[lime aspen]

if games use raw input it doesnt affect it in game

[frail bobcat]

99% sure he just saw his mouse capped at 12k dpi so he used 12k dpi

[lime aspen]

ow i know for sure uses raw input, r6 probably does as well

[frail bobcat]

I used to use mouse Accel in my mcpvp days

[lime aspen]

i sometimes use raw accel

[frail bobcat]

At least raw Accel is linear

[sage wing]

I can tell you that now, it did not

[lime aspen]

nah raw accel is whatever you make the curve

[frail bobcat]

Which is mostly linear for most non insane people

[lime aspen]

raw accel can be linear if thats how you make it

i had some pretty wack curves

[frail bobcat]

I don't think many people use quadratic unironically

I could never use raw Accel because it's just not viable with my setup

[untold wyvern]

I’mma just leave this here 👀 #818661492068319233 message

[sage wing]

Not a few ago then, I tried with it enabled and disabled and my flicks went from pretty close to 360 and more depending on the speed of it

[untold wyvern]

TL;DR - potential for a Mode made 80HE case down the line…

[sage wing]

So there was definitely something going on there

[frail bobcat]

Trying to make flicks on raw Accel skypad was awful, you could make it work but it wasn't good imo

[wary abyss]

what's the point of leaving a link to a channel most people can't follow

[untold wyvern]

Because you can follow… that’s the whole idea…

[lime aspen]

[frail bobcat]

Hate to break it to ya

[untold wyvern]

Boo. 2 secs

[buoyant solstice]

[untold wyvern]

From the Mode discord. I quite unashamedly enjoy their designs

[buoyant solstice]

They're more than welcome to, once we release the .stl files post release. 🙂

[untold wyvern]

Well aware - just figured a nudge in that direction wouldn’t hurt 😅

[tiny quail]

sentinels won masters with four wooting 60he 👀

5mil

[open bramble]

broo

[pseudo parrot]

o wow thats a nice milestone

[sage wing]

Wooting will invade the Cs and valorant pro scene, like the gpro(I hope at least because I wouldn't see why they wouldn't want the faster actuation)

[lime aspen]

they already have

[sage wing]

And how is the usage percentage on the apex pro scene? Are they allowed?

[lime aspen]

they are allowed but stuff like dks isnt allowed obviously

seen a few algs kbm players on wootings already, dont know names though

[tight cypress]

[sage wing]

That's what I thought but I did t find any video comparison the usage of keyboards, only for mise

[worldly moat]

Hi. Three days have passed, but no one answered me about checking the card. How long should I really wait?

[tight cypress]

👀

[sage wing]

For once do the valorant player have good taste xD (I'm Ina love hate relationship with the game, don't judge me 😂)

[sage wing]

What game?

[tight cypress]

Overall stats

[sage wing]

And is that chart visible on wooting website?
Would be interesting to see actually maybe, no?

[buoyant solstice]

Conversation Failure. User responded to existing conversation with completely unrelated question.
Guru Medication #00000345345.53476456

[sage wing]

Ho ok, is it on their website?

[tight cypress]

Here https://prosettings.net/brands/wooting/

[sage wing]

It's on prosettings, no point of having it on their website I think

[worldly moat]

Who has already confirmed the card?

[midnight iron]

Already happened in valorant. It’s like the majority of all keyboards at Madrid were wootings

[midnight iron]

This would be endgame level wooting

[wary abyss]

google translate?

[midnight iron]

Only thing I’d worry about is you’d have to make the gaskets stiffer and less flex in middle but man a mode sonnet style case for 80he would be amazing

[wary abyss]

care to explain what a mode sonnet style case is so I know what I'm missing out on?

[midnight iron]

It’s a custom keyboard. The mode sonnet is one of the most popular designed keyboards in the world

It’d have to be made longer a bit since wooting has a slightly different design to 75% - but man I’d pay good money for a mode sonnet styled 80he case

[lime aspen]

Looks nice, and expensive

[jade widget]

You see the new sixty-five @midnight iron

Might have to get that one 💸

[icy cosmos]

Everything custom is expensive 🤣

[low token]

Mode eighty was more expensive

[midnight iron]

Yeah I saw it. Looks nice

[jade widget]

Mode is like a nice middle ground before it starts getting outrageous

[low token]

Tbh it was my favorite brick tkl

[rose field]

Hello there!
I just bought Wooting 80HE but I picked the wrong layout (ANSI) for the keyboard. So I'm not sure if I can change it to ISO Spanish.

[icy cosmos]

I think we have to set a fair comparison. You can buy a Casio watch for 10€ and you ban buy a Rolex for 100k€ they still just tell the time

[midnight iron]

Yeah mode sonnet is imo kind of the best you can go quality and design for upper ‘entry’ price before you go into really crazy prices

[icy cosmos]

What ever in between is for satisfying one’s ego

[midnight iron]

Although that said if you add copper bottom to mode sonnet the price does skyrocket lol

[low token]

Eighty could cost 650€+ in finnished build

[icy cosmos]

And why would you need a copper bottom?

[burnt yacht]

Do a cancel request and make a new order

[low token]

Sound

[midnight iron]

No other reason than swag lol

Well weight too. It’s denser so small sound change

[icy cosmos]

On something you can’t see? Just like exotic materials in a watch movement

[valid comet]

clean

mode?

[midnight iron]

For the most part it’s swag though because just the copper bottom is something like $150 extra vs normal options lol

[rose field]

Where i can do the cancel request? When im checking the order there is no option to cancel

[burnt yacht]

“Contact us” under your order

[rose field]

In the website or the app

[burnt yacht]

Website

[jade widget]

Yeah copper is heavier, I'll probably just stick to brass though

[rose field]

okay ty so much, im gonna take a look

[icy cosmos]

Now we’re at HiFi territory. Are there A-B test it or has someone measured the different materials and posted a graphs 📉

[midnight iron]

There’s some videos online of people testing different sonnet bottoms. Difference isn’t crazy though, but I’d probably go copper bottom just for the looks if mode ever designed an 80he case

[valid comet]

jed were those 3 keyboards by mode designs

[icy cosmos]

We need measurements to fully understand these factors. So we can rule out the possibility of error like recording instruments, room acoustic etc. just like this guy https://crinacle.com/graphs/iems/

[valid comet]

or cases rather

[jade widget]

They're all mode sonnets

[midnight iron]

Yeah just different color combos

[icy cosmos]

Just like how people are going on a “ HiFi Journey “ people within the keyboard community is doing the same thing. There’re already Keyboard cafes in certain countries. I hope it will establish more available around the world so we don’t have to do our own trial and error to find our very own best keyboard 😆

[wary abyss]

TFW you buy a keyboard for the HiFi ASMR and not for its functionality as a keyboard

[valid comet]

i knew it

[dusky tiger]

test

[pastel hare]

ghost is going to be so beautiful

[compact wasp]

keyboard cafes? wdym by that damm

oh wait I didnt read all the way lmao

[dusky dagger]

is it normal that its x2 free switches?

[buoyant solstice]

No you accidentally caused that by changing items. We'll fix it at a later date. One per customer in total. 🙂

[fickle flint]

They could make a keyboard without LEDs

[dusky dagger]

okay ty

[wintry scaffold]

I just preorder 80HE... where can I check the order status tho

[umbral locust]

The wooting hub.

Its gonna be a few months though so no point

[dusky dagger]

is there keycap size info for 80he

[wintry scaffold]

ok thx mate 😄

[umbral locust]

What do you mean?

[dusky dagger]

nvm

[icy cosmos]

Magic of EQ.. https://youtu.be/lhO62AYEcPw?si=DJUVmopKeu906FTC

[humble cargo]

yep said it many times, recorded sound tests are next to worthless

[umbral locust]

If the 80he came in transparent purple ....

[wintry scaffold]

Does the keyboard actually made in China or some where else?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes - Like most manufacturers we use Chinese factories and suppliers.

[worldly moat]

american burgers eater?

[lime aspen]

damn those look good

if only they werent probably 120$+

[idle depot]

America runs on China lol

[umbral locust]

They're PBTfans, not GMKs.

[lime aspen]

pbtfans is still expensive as shit no?

[umbral locust]

Whole world fam

[idle depot]

Better than gmk

[umbral locust]

Depends on the set, but they're are generally a lot cheaper than gmk.

I haven't seen a single set go for over 120+, I think 99 is the highest ive seen.

With a few being 70 or so.

I filled in the interest form, but ill buy depending on final price.

[lime aspen]

oh yeah these guys do group buys right

[umbral locust]

But these I am 100% getting

Gonna look so good on the black see through case

[lime aspen]

these look kinda sick

with a dark purple glow those would look nuts

[rose crane]

How much does these cost

[lime aspen]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keycaps/products/clear-2048-purple-keycaps-set

it says 49$

im assuming thats for the base set not sure

[rose crane]

You think it will look good with the black zinc alloy

[lime aspen]

probably yeah

[rose crane]

It looks very good i like the purple colour

[lime aspen]

black zinc case + black PC plate would look really nice with those

[rose crane]

Black pc plate?

[lime aspen]

is it not an option for 80he yet? or do they already have them?

[rose crane]

No I dont know what that is a black pc plate😅

[rose crane]

Ooooohwee

[lime aspen]

its a different material switch plate, 60he stock one is steel PC plate is made from polycarbonate

you can get a black one and it looks really good. With those keycaps it would also look very good

[rose crane]

I didnt saw it on the website for the 80he

[buoyant solstice]

Oh yes

[rose crane]

You got the keycaps?

[buoyant solstice]

[umbral locust]

Yeah the prebuilt 60he+ comes with a white steel plate. Module comes with a white PC plate.

80he come with a PC plate, not a steel plate. But we don't know what color.

[rose crane]

Can we choose the colour?

[umbral locust]

Nope

[lime aspen]

wait i didnt even realize this had those keycaps, thats such a sick combo with that case

[buoyant solstice]

White

[lilac plaza]

80he comes with plastic plate? I might cancel my order

[umbral locust]

Polycarbonate.

[lilac plaza]

yea that's just fancy word for plastic

[umbral locust]

In either case it's better than steel.

[lilac plaza]

even my ancient keyboards have steel plates

[umbral locust]

Steel plates are not usually desireable.

[lilac plaza]

Maybe I should cancle and just get another FC660C

[umbral locust]

But it's up to you.

[lilac plaza]

since when?

[lime aspen]

they sound like shit

[tight cypress]

PC plates have more deep and thockier sound than steel plates

[umbral locust]

Since people started spending a lot of money on other plates like PC, POM, FR4, Carbon Fibre, Brass etc

[lilac plaza]

nothing sounds better than my topre with steel plate

[umbral locust]

Ultimately it's all preference, but preferring steel is a weird take.

[lilac plaza]

except maybe the a softer touch version of the same thing anyways

10 years ago plates being steel was always promoted

Maybe things have swung back around the other way these days IDK

[eager sundial]

What works works

[lilac plaza]

it was actually a big deal to get an upgraded steel plate back then.

[lime aspen]

they sound pingy/higher pitched

[umbral locust]

A lot can change in 10 years.

[lime aspen]

undesirable sound for many

[eager sundial]

not only that, some trends are stupid and don’t actually make sense. But get hyped because the average consumer see steel = better without even knowing about it

[lilac plaza]

I see

[lime aspen]

yeah PC plate is to sound better not be cheap

[lilac plaza]

I dunno man, all I know is that it was supposed to be a better feel with a thick steel plate

[lime aspen]

80he is very clearly going for more sound than just pure performance

[lilac plaza]

sound is important

[lime aspen]

having just swapped to PC plate from steel plate it sounds a lot better

[umbral locust]

Yeah I have a PC palte in both my 60s.

[lilac plaza]

Maybe it's better IDK or maybe it's just better for cherrry and topre switches

[lime aspen]

i wouldnt cancel your 60he because its not steel plate

[lilac plaza]

ok

[umbral locust]

Good thing it's default on the module, I hope the prebuilt 60 gets the same treatment at some point. Just no reason to be including steel at the price point wooting is at.

[lime aspen]

give it a try see how you like it, and sell/return it if you really dont like it

[lilac plaza]

yea I have never used these switches. both my keyboards are 10 years old

I found a source for a last shipment of FC660C's really tempted to grab a backup

I have a replacement part ordered for this one, although I'm not sure if it's the cables or the keyboard controller that is actually the problem. But given only 1 of 5 cables works without any issues, I'm guessing it might be a combination of both.

Still a brand new last shipment of FC660C is really tempting.

Oh damn that option appears to be gone now

[umbral locust]

rip

[eager sundial]

80he will be nice anyway probably

and if you’re just gaming then yea even better

[lilac plaza]

I think I screwed up not getting that

these were available last week https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/fc660c-blue-grey

I bought 80HE instead damn

Although, I do have one of those already. But I need to paint the backplate because it is steel and rusted

so thats one good thing about PC I guess

[obtuse wagon]

Is the Leopold HE?

[lilac plaza]

no it's topre

[obtuse wagon]

Wtf is that good for? Work?

[lilac plaza]

Good for the office

[obtuse wagon]

🤔 looks like a keyboard from when I was a kid

[lilac plaza]

you also decent for gaming, at least compared to rubber domes etc, but not like HE

[jolly tangle]

no leopard 2a5

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-beer-leopard-balance-gif-16835281

Leopard?

[jolly tangle]

very good mansen

[obtuse wagon]

[lilac plaza]

This would be a good replacement when I can't get another FC660C I guess... https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/r2-pfu-limited-edition-black-tkl?_pos=11&_sid=c6bf76a38&_ss=r

[jolly tangle]

what is that? doorstop?

[lilac plaza]

FC660C's are now going for $500 on ebay

I shoulda got in on that last shipment

I like the 65% for work though, 80% kinda large to lug around

Wow Topre really died off? but why?

[humble cargo]

they're kinda charging a premium for some glorified dome boards

[hearty sky]

Is this August month ? 🥹

[lilac plaza]

they don't work the same they are electro static

huge difference in sound and feel and accuracy

[humble cargo]

I know how they work, its still rubber domes though

[lilac plaza]

ever had one?

[valid comet]

cool

[humble cargo]

don't have to own one to know

[dusky dagger]

any white keycaps recommendations

[humble cargo]

not saying they're comparable with some $10 shitty oem membrane board, but its still rubber dome

[lilac plaza]

they are nothing like membrane or typical rubber dome though

so it's not really fair to say they are charging allot for a rubber dome.

The sound, and quality is much better than most mechanicals, although I haven't tried the HE yet

[sage wing]

was just checking out all these keyacps set; where can you buy some in europe?

[lilac plaza]

it seems the most similar mechanical to Topre to be honest

[sage wing]

I wil maybe change mine on my 60he, but i have zerio idea on where to buy them in europe

[valid comet]

PBTfans BoW or Wuque Studio BoW?

[lilac plaza]

Oh there is a bid for $90 for a used one that is made in japan

[humble cargo]

I wouldn't say I swear by mx style mech boards as the goat either, it just happens to be the standard these days

[hexed dawn]

oh man Leopolds are cool, used to use one before I got the 60HE

[lilac plaza]

I just bid on one and got auto topped.

[lilac plaza]

which one did you have?

[hexed dawn]

FC500R, old model, but it was the only one with blank keycaps that had an ISO model. took me weeks to find