🌟│wooting80he

[winged apex]

bc of dsc

[frozen flint]

what does it do like?

[winged apex]

DISPLAY STREAM COMPRESSION ISSUES
Custom resolutions locked out.
DSR locked out.
DLDSR locked out.
Five second black screens when alt tabbing out of full screen games
Color inaccuracy

[frozen flint]

huh

all that because of a display port

[winged apex]

no, those are issues caused by dsc

[frozen flint]

im not sure i follow

[winged apex]

huh

i just listed all the issues

[frozen flint]

so is dsc only on 1.4 ?

[winged apex]

no

dsc is only on when the connection isnt high enough bandwidth

[hard vale]

i hate the black screen any fix?

[winged apex]

cant fix it, its only fixed if u use something that isnt dsc

[frozen flint]

is that what the 2.1 dp fixes?

[winged apex]

no dp 2.1 just increases bandwidth

dp 2.1 if it isnt full speed wont fix it

• dp 2.1 isnt even on current nvidia cards its only on amd

[elfin dock]

Colour inaccuracy? Source on that?

[winged apex]

dsc does this 3.75:4:4

[frozen flint]

lol you mean nvidia had the chance to put the new display ports on the supers but didnt XD

[winged apex]

companies save every penny they can

[elfin dock]

Is it visible though?

[winged apex]

its visible on oleds not LCDs

[elfin dock]

I did an AB test with an image that had gone through DSC and one that hadn't and I didn't see anything.
And that was a completely static one I was staring closely at.

[elfin dock]

I don't see how this makes sense. Many LCDs have higher colour ranges than W-OLEDs.

[winged apex]

i have gone back in forth many times dsc looks visually worse. besides the point tho, dsc just causes too many issues with little benefit imo

[elfin dock]

Well the benefit is much higher frames and resolutions. I'd gladly take a native 4k monitor that can also do 480 Hz simultaneously which is possible with DSC. Though it doesn't exist yet.

[winged apex]

i wont, i disabled it on every panel i could and noticed an instant improvement when it came to any form of multi tasking or production. 1080p 480hz can be ran fine full bandwidth with hdmi 2.1

[elfin dock]

That's 1080p though.

[winged apex]

yes thats what the new 4k x 480hz monitor is

its not 4k 240 / 1440p 480hz

its 4k 240 / 1080 480hz

[elfin dock]

I know but I wasn't talking about it. I mean one that can do both simultaneously.

[winged apex]

4k 480hz? bruh thta wont be a thing for years and two we will have way higher bandwidth by then

1440p full rgb 8bit

[dark saddle]

Has anyone made a summary of the latest stream? Did they show anything interesting?

[elfin dock]

DP 2.0 which I'm confident 5000 series will have with full bandwith can do it no problem with DSC.

[fallen forge]

raw zinc case sample

[winged apex]

that doesnt matter when the games at 4k will still only be at 120fps

[dark saddle]

I've seen it, it needs a lot of work

[main dust]

Is there summary for the stream?

[midnight iron]

honestly if your goal is a polished raw zinc i wouldn't be holding breathe

it's likely it'll be a bit more polished but not a ton more since it's supposed to be raw-ish (just not quite as raw as the one they showed today)

[elfin dock]

What does that mean? Use DLSS. 1080p upscaled to 4k looks much better than 1080p not upscaled. And I mostly play somewhat older games that I can run at a ton of frames anyway.

[midnight iron]

Just said that the batch size for first 80he batch is 20k units. Then after that they just showed a bunch of samples of the cases they have on hand

[valid comet]

Hi gang

[winged apex]

dlss on 4k ewww, all upscaling sucks

i want pure quality if im playing a singleplayer

that new 4k 240 x 1080 480 is perfect
can play singleplayers at max fidelity and multiplayers with best motion/latency

[elfin dock]

It's better than 1080p without upscaling.

[elfin dock]

But see why not one that can do both?

You can still lower your resolution to 1080p if you want.

[winged apex]

because i dont have to run dsc

hdmi 2.1 runs 1080 480hz fine no dsc required

[elfin dock]

I would love a 5k 240 Hz monitor that can do 1440p 480 Hz.

[winged apex]

custom resolution works fine no issues, wont have to wait 5s for an alt tab and i wont be having any visual lossless

[valid comet]

At that point we would need displayport 2.1 and probably even the option to see 8, 10 and 12 bit color depth

So color banding would be a non issue

At higher resolutions, color banding becomes a bigger problem

[open charm]

Not sure if this has been asked before, but is it possible order the 80he with Gateron Jade switches?

[buoyant solstice]

You should try (The answer is yes)

[open charm]

hmm I'm on the order page and the selections I have are KB or Module, Layout/Language, Style (PCR or Zinc Alloy), and Keycaps, but no option for switches

[buoyant solstice]

First page

You either order it as part of the module in the configurator, or you add the jades manually (since they aren't preinstalled and in a container by themselves) on the website by adding them to the 80HE cart

https://wooting.io/product/gateron-magnetic-jade-switches
(You'll need the 90 pack for an 80HE)

[open charm]

Gotcha, I guess a better question would be if its possible to get them preinstalled

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[crystal locust]

been quite a long time till I decided, but judging from a lot of videos and especially optimum's content on the 60he I went and pre ordered! I can't wait to be maining this keyboard in July 🙂. The alternative options seemed to have their drawbacks

[verbal solar]

Wootang

[dapper anchor]

Great thanks. Do you think if I add as new order the delivery will be paired up as one delivery? Otherwise it'll be adding as separate delivery costs

[verbal solar]

Been wanting a wooting keyboard and have been saving up a good bit and now that they released this new keyboard i balled out

[buoyant solstice]

You got keycaps ready - Cause you didn't order any

[verbal solar]

Yeah I got some saved

[valid comet]

hi guys

im in vc if anyone wants to join, im considering getting some keycaps

[digital elm]

I’ll join you in ten minutes is that fine?

[winged pelican]

I expected this kind of finish on the raw but it seems like wooting's might be more raw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GStdlfRUbtw

(alunimium case, weighs 5kg)

[digital elm]

They want it as raw as possible

Tho it will still have a thin layer for it not to oxidize

And it won’t be as raw as we’ve seen it today

[winged pelican]

they hinted at some finishes but yeah i think the final product will look more raw considering how much manual labor it would take

[silver adder]

will the 8k pooling be compatible with normal usb port?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[silver adder]

Thaks

[rapid basalt]

Looking at the stream. So glad I went with white.. Raw zinc is not it for me

[winged pelican]

there's still time to think 🙂 they said they can do 20k in the first batch and 15k founders so...

[lime falcon]

15k founders?

its already 14600 almost

[valid comet]

thats what happens when you use RAW RAW zinc, ofc it will look bad

[lime falcon]

i dont think thats true

[winged pelican]

I also understand why they went raw raw, there's a lot of polishes out there

[icy cosmos]

For anniversary edition you should do a zaratsu polish case like Seiko

[valid comet]

besides, its a prototype, raw zinc wont be true raw

[jolly tangle]

they talked more in depth about the raw color today on stream

[winged pelican]

yes but from the images we've seen and what they've hinted it will look like it's raw, even if there's some minor finishes on it

[valid comet]

I see

[winged pelican]

they really meant raw 😄 i wish they used some different texture on their render though

[midnight iron]

Raw in custom keyboard world is usually meaning quite raw

[winged pelican]

there's still time to change the picture 😄

[midnight iron]

If their inspiration was raw cases they saw like they said then yeah it’s going to be pretty raw

[midnight iron]

They plan to - none of the zinc alloy ones are final

For example this is the raw geon f1

[lime falcon]

sno is this true

[midnight iron]

Nah you misread it. He said 15k out of 20k

So 20k slots roughly speaking for first batch and we’re at 15kish now

[lime falcon]

oh yea sorry i havent slept lol

i thought there was a limit

[midnight iron]

It’ll just go into batch 2 when they hit the 20k for batch 1

[lime falcon]

yeah

i want that yellow name asap

[winged pelican]

I'm seeing a finish here, whether it went through some tumbler or equivalent of it

whereas 80HE is cast?

[midnight iron]

Yeah 80he still has some finish though to take off burrs etc

They showed that other sample too after the full case where it’s still rawish but with a very slight finish to it

[winged pelican]

so basically they're going to look like ingots

rawwww

[midnight iron]

If you look through todays stream they showed what potentially the polish level could look like in the next raw sample they try

It’s not quite just raw ingot like their current sample. a tad polished but still looking raw if that other sample is anything to go by

[winged pelican]

these are close finalists; I would not expect the final product to deviate too much from these

ingots but more polished

[midnight iron]

Yeah they showed some close up different angles too if you check the stream

[winged pelican]

yes i watched it live 😄

[midnight iron]

I’m not too bothered by what they’ll pick personally since I’m going to sand it and cerakote anyway lol

[valid comet]

alright, mmaybe I should get PBTfans WoB

[winged pelican]

it would be really cool to customize this way

[midnight iron]

Pbtfans is solid, although I think wuque studio wob is a tad better with legends

[valid comet]

i cant see all caps

[midnight iron]

https://shop.wuquestudio.com/products/in-stock-ws-pbt-wob-keycaps

[valid comet]

oh I mean its not like this

this type of img

[midnight iron]

Pbtfans is still decent, just most people tend to go their symbol option for mod keys instead of text because their mod key legends can be a tiny bit off in printing quality at times

[winged pelican]

jed do you have any secret underground resources for XDA or DSA caps

[valid comet]

is WS the same amount of keys?

[midnight iron]

Yeah you can check out the full set look here https://coffeekeys.eu/en/products/ws-bow-wob-keycaps

Has some photos of the full set there

[midnight iron]

Eh not particularly lol, just check out the usual vendors in your region

[winged pelican]

why are all keycaps so fugly tho

[midnight iron]

I’m just glad I don’t like abs thanks to my acid sweat. Keeps me from spending on gmk and keykobo sets

[valid comet]

relatable

these are gonna be high qiality pbt so I dont have to worry as much

[midnight iron]

Yeah I always stick to pbt to avoid shine

[valid comet]

me when I still get my up arrow made of PBT to shine in 1 month

[timid abyss]

ghost looked pretty good imo

the zinc cases not so much

[winged pelican]

ghost did look good!

[timid abyss]

i didnt like the grainy texture on the black one

[valid comet]

Thanks for the info, jed

[midnight iron]

I’m opposite. I think the grainy looks nicer than slick

[timid abyss]

I can see the appeal just my opinion not saying im right whatsoever :p

[rain zodiac]

why are these $75

is it that good or something

[midnight iron]

$75 is actually fairly normal for mid priced keycaps

Pricy would be gmk sets that can be $150-200+

[rain zodiac]

dang

[valid comet]

i can see what you mean the legends are off

ill get simple base

it will add a bit more character to something that simple anyway

Thanks jed, would have driven me mad!

[winged pelican]

are these OEM profiles?

[buoyant solstice]

Yep

[valid comet]

simple base is growing on me more than base now wtfffff 😍

also is simple base OEM or cherry? I don't really mind either or

oh it says cherry

i do have 1 concern tho

its saying USD and not CAD

im from canada

[winged pelican]

I'm guessing the white tones will not match

[sullen sand]

Normal, the amount will be taken from your account and converted to CAD plus any bank fees you may occur

i.e. a payment of 100 usd is 136.34 CAD depending on the exchange rate your bank offers

[valid comet]

75 USD

[sullen sand]

For the most part depending on your bank's exchange rates it's best to pay in the country's currency you are buying from

i.e. if you go to japan on holiday you're better off paying in their currency rather than having it converted and you paying in CAD

The vendor will usually add a fee, this is common practice for places like Amazon

For instance I live in Ireland, my amazon is Amazon UK - if I purchase an item for £100 (british currency) it will be less than if I ask Amazon to convert it to euro

[buoyant jacinth]

fx fees

[idle depot]

To see more photos and stuff on the 80he should I watch the live stream?

[sullen sand]

If I pay in GBP the amount deducted from my account will be 133.59, not 136.59

[obtuse wagon]

If you care about information, you should always watch the live streams, from now up until launch

[winged pelican]

https://www.youtube.com/live/EdBW5LY0z58?si=Hzfklsu2adecplmo&t=2103 here's the latest with timestamp

[acoustic patrol]

[digital elm]

$75 for this?

[pliant goblet]

i will never have a yellow name iguess

[winged pelican]

what happens if I get a magnetic switch opener with HE switches? will it be annoying or is it useful?

[tired spear]

does anyone know why i cant order an 80he module without a case??

[tight cypress]

It's not currently possible, as there's no 3rd party cases for 80he

[tired spear]

i see

[valid comet]

Depends on your priorities, if you want a super minimal aesthetic while being durable as hell it does a fine job

[jade widget]

Gmk wob after 1.5 years of use

Can see a little shine on the spacebar and shift key

[valid comet]

So this is what I can expect the RGB to look lije with WoB

As expected, I love the ambience it provides

Also why are F and D swapped?

[jade widget]

Good eyes, I took this just after cleaning it's fixed now

[valid comet]

I also noticed the cap profike is dufferent, they are engraced deeper instead of having homerow notches

Interesting twist

[fallen epoch]

Cherry profile always clean

[digital elm]

I want a keycap set but I don’t really know what keycaps are really worth

Like I’ve seen GMK keycap sets but they are at least more than $100 each for ABS

[fallen epoch]

GMK are more luxury sets anyway

[digital elm]

ABS, how come it’s luxurious?

[undone steppe]

I got a question.
I heard about the wooting recently (from a TenZ short) and got quite interested in the keyboard, first time for me.
Now I dislike the 60 format which is why I was looking forward to the 80HE, which I mainly want for the F-keys and prnt key (aka screenshot button).
But then saw that there is also the Two HE, which is basically the same as the 80HE but bigger? as in it also has a num pad, which I don't really need but also don't mind that much.

Q is: Is there any point to wait for the 80HE or do I safely buy the Two HE?
From the 80HE vids I didn't really pick up any trivial improvements other than the small latency diff and that it's just the format mainly.

[steep flume]

After this part, are there any more steps for me to choose how many times I want to pay?

[digital elm]

If you need space on your desk then 80HE, if you don’t care then maybe Two HE, compare the prices as well, I’d say you could pre-order 80HE so that you get more for your money

[fallen epoch]

Honestly not sure, i just see a lot of others talk about their quality for abs being pretty solid with their color coices. MT3 and SA caps are other sets i know of that are within GMK prices

Drops DCX sets have really piqued my interest currently, i personally never had a gmk set

[valid comet]

I mean PBT fans Simple base WoB or BoW, and Wuque Studio for Base WoB or BoW, all are PBT I think

If you want something durable and minimal

[fallen epoch]

Yeah pbtfans are good

Novelkeys in general has some nice sets

[valid comet]

Im going for simple base because the legends on the mod keys arent really good on base for PBTfans

So I went with the simple base instead

[steep flume]

?

[digital elm]

The only really good experience I’ve had were my keycaps from ducky that I think are PBT and in my corresponding layout

[dim sierra]

80he became goat

[umbral locust]

I lvoe to see it because it means those keycaps were loved and used.

I was watching the live and they said there will be a grace window where we can change our case colors, does that also mean I can change my mind from zinc to plastic or vice versa?

[valid comet]

True

Its probably the ideal pcb for me

[umbral locust]

https://omnitype.com/products/gmk-redacted-keycap-set?variant=32034367438922

Ghost or Phantom case for this?

[jolly tangle]

what the heck is a phantom case @tight cypress ?

[umbral locust]

Or is it frost? idk am all confused with the naming after watching the live lmao

[tight cypress]

Phantom is now smoky and Ghost is transparent one

[fallen epoch]

Lol pretty sure frost

[umbral locust]

Damn I really can't decide between the two lmao

[jolly tangle]

[pseudo parrot]

why decide when you can get both

[fallen epoch]

Which one? Yes.

[jolly tangle]

this is too confusing at 01:00 after 2 beers and writing code for 2 hours in a row

[umbral locust]

See the way my brain works, that means I would need 2 modules, but if am getting two, one better be zinc ... but now I can't decide what plastic case and what zinc case so we are back to square one.

[fallen epoch]

Shouldnt have wrote code, thats the biggest mistake

[jolly tangle]

ssssh

[pseudo parrot]

flip a coin i guess idk, i originally ordered pcr frost but cancelled that, about to order a zinc white instead

from the livestream today im happy i did, i didnt like the look of the pcr cases that much

[distant iris]

are there any after market cases announced?

[pseudo parrot]

not yet afaik

[jolly tangle]

for the 80

no

[umbral locust]

It's funny because I was debating on getting Raw or Black zinc but after the live today I decided to go with one of hte see through plastic ones lol

[distant iris]

ahhh i want onee

do you think i should buy the 80he module and switches and keycaps and use it without a case till one is announced?

[umbral locust]

no man just buy a case lmao

It's gonna be a long wait for after market 80he cases.

[pseudo parrot]

Fairs lol, it’s preference in the end

[valid comet]

Whats the timestamp for black zinc prototype?

[oblique marsh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V6NGk5UgwE

the guy in this video who stole the sound from the official wooting website says in the description that these are magnetic switches. Is he right or is he talking shit?

[ebon sluice]

Same sound test that's on the product page

[valid comet]

The switches have magnets at the bottom wtf

[oblique marsh]

what ?

[glad fable]

Uh…lekker switches do use magnets

[oblique marsh]

i think he speak about jade switch no ?

[valid comet]

Lekker switches and gateron HE switches use magnets

[glad fable]

Those are the new lekkers that have better tolerances, its the sound test from wooting

[valid comet]

Lekkers are in collaboration with gateron and wooting

[glad fable]

Bro done took and stole the sound test and slapped a constant frame of one image and called it a day 💀

[oblique marsh]

I was afraid that the sound was so good because it was jade switches that were used

[valid comet]

All of the switches I am listing are KS-20 compatible meaning they use magnets at the right polarity, position, and magnitude:

• Gateron x Lekker L60 and L45
• Geonworks Raptor HE
• Gateron Jade HE
• Gateron x Lekker L60 v2 and L45 v2

Not limited to these

[umbral locust]

Gatern KS-20U Duel Rails too

[valid comet]

Are thise out yet

[umbral locust]

ye I just ordered some

[valid comet]

Send link in dms

[umbral locust]

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-ks-20-dual-rail-magnetic-orange-switch-sat?VariantsId=10779

[valid comet]

Thanks man

I should get some

Image 4/10 is the dual rail?

[umbral locust]

I think so.

But I need to hold it in hand and compare to a normal HE switch.

I already know am not gonna like the springs on it but curious to see how tight the switch feels

[ebon sluice]

Go Raw, look at the potential. *timestamped https://youtu.be/imjpCWizOII?t=15294

[umbral locust]

Yo that looks fire

[ebon sluice]

Lighting looks a bit off though

[valid comet]

Is the KS-20U Dual rail very new

[umbral locust]

A few months old. Could be older.

[valid comet]

I wonder if the KS-37B Gateron 2.0HEs are newer, used in the Keychron Q1 HE

If so I should probably wait a bit longer

Im getting the Q1 HE too so ye, should be here in 3 weeks

[umbral locust]

https://www.instagram.com/gateron.official/p/CzVrWb1uZb-/?hl=en&img_index=1

Seems to be similar age to me

[pseudo parrot]

Starts at 38:50

[valid comet]

Ok

[umbral locust]

btw these wont work on the wooting

[tiny tartan]

any new news from the live stream?

[jade widget]

a live sound demonstation between the alumaze 60he with lekker v1s and the pcr 80he with lekker v2s

https://youtu.be/EdBW5LY0z58?t=3259

[tiny tartan]

thanks!

[jade widget]

also they showed off more of the case's for both zinc and pcr

[tiny tartan]

no led news? lol

[jade widget]

think they mentioned it during the q&a not sure if there was any new info

who's gonna tell this guy from livestream comments

[tiny tartan]

lmfaooo

[valid comet]

I think jed said because the polarity is reversed

[quartz smelt]

ok

[fallow spire]

We will support both polarities in the future, we can detect them but it's not proper supported in software yet. N pole would then still be most preferable, as it will have the most resolution

[valid comet]

Sounds great Calder! I will be getting a Q1 HE so I can test it if the 80HE gets a FW update, I can try it with my Gateron HE 2.0 Nebula Dual Rail KS-37B switches

[tame crow]

@valid comet could you give us a full on review of the q1 once yours arrives?

[valid comet]

Why not!

Ill eliminate the 8k vs 1k variable too

[valid comet]

But I will add that data too

[violet dagger]

was there a zinc sound test on the stream or not yet?

[jade widget]

not yet Calder said he's working on getting it done

maybe next weeks update will have it

[violet dagger]

🤞

hopefully

[umbral locust]

Based. I can finally work towards owning every HE switch 🙂

[fallow spire]

KS-37 is a different structure switch

This won't be compatible

And technically those with KS-37 are not Hall Effect keyboards, but TMR (Tunnel Magneto-Resistive Sensors). It's also a magnet proximity sensor but uses a different methodology. The placement for these sensors are different, as is how it needs to be facing N/S poles. This solution is used in most of those budget boards and is the off-the-shelve solution.

[umbral locust]

Now it makes sense why a lot of budget HE boards only work with the stock switches provided

[valid comet]

Oh they are? I thought they could be reversed thanks for letting me know

[fallow spire]

Whenever you see a keyboard with KS-37 switches, you can be almost 100% certain that it's an off-the-shelve solution with same said firmware and software. This only comes from a handful manufacturers, and is also the reason so many brands are popping up with a board.

[valid comet]

I suppose the KS-20s are mire widely adopted and for good reason, because of the increased resolution the polarity config provides?

[small rune]

The 80he’s Hall effect sensor exactly same as 60he or it’s an upgraded version?

[frozen flint]

apparently the 5000 series gpus will have a 50%-70% uplift in performance from the current 4000 series lol pretty sure if the 5090 is 50% or more better than the current 4090 we will get over 120fps at 4k

apparently the 5080 will be better than the current 4090

probably like 10%-30% better then the 4090 lol

[valid comet]

Power? 450W?

[frozen flint]

we wont know the power until they finish it lol

[umbral locust]

Probably will cost more too lmao

[frozen flint]

yeah

[valid comet]

Probably next GPU I get will be the RTX 7000 mid-high end 70 80 class card

[frozen flint]

nah tbh at the 7000 series you might have a gpu the size of a mid tower that costs like 30k

XD

[valid comet]

Mini itx gang wya

[fallow spire]

Simplest explainer in difference is that (on paper, generalized) a TMR sensor has a higher resolution at the start of the press but increasingly lower the further you near the end. Hall Sensor is flipped. It's has a smaller resolution at start, larger resolution the further you near the end.

It still depends heavily on your software implementation and the (quality of) magnet, sensor, and tolerances what that means in practice. Therefore, it doesn't matter which sensor is used, rather how well the implementation is.

[acoustic jasper]

Is it possible for those who chose a base 80he to have the option to choose the ghost(clear) case later on or is that too much logistics @fallow spire

I remember you saying once cases molds are finished, that would be the case to change colors/material

[umbral locust]

I am also wondering the same thing, I want to pick one case today, but if the final samples aren't what I expect, I wonder if we can switch case material and color.

[frozen flint]

pretty sure in the livestream they had they will make a small window just before finalization for people to change their cases

[umbral locust]

They said on the live there will be a window where we can change colors, but not sure if we would be stuck with the case material we initially picked.

[fallow spire]

The hall sensor is in essence the same model, but an upgraded version that can support the higher scanning rate. We continuously work with the vendor to improve the sensor to increase performance.

[idle depot]

hello calder!

[fallow spire]

The cases are also available separate, you can still purchase it in the future as standalone. Unless the sales/demand is so low that it's not worth holding a stock. Then we'd be consolidating as much as possible.

[acoustic jasper]

Yeah but when configuring the base model, you can only choose black or phantom(dark clear) but not the ghost

[fallow spire]

Molds don't decice the color choices. Molds can however have an impact on material choice and surface finish.

[valid comet]

Very interesting info. Im looking forward to designing and getting into hall effect keyboards and pads, lowkey because Ive been eyeing your guys work and passion, also because I love electronics and modular designs. I know to start with KS-20U switches! Also do you know when we can know what the MCU is called for the 80HE?

[fallow spire]

Frost sold out?

[frozen flint]

oh is frost sold out?

[umbral locust]

You have to pick the module for that color

[acoustic jasper]

Frost was only available for module

[acoustic jasper]

These are the only two I see for the base model

[umbral locust]

You need to get the module, not the base

[frozen flint]

yeah frost in module

they said at the start that they would only make the base the most popular colours

[fallow spire]

Since the pandemic and mega IC shortage, we've started to use MCUs from Gigadevice. These are easily available, were able to scale with us in demand, and could meet our performance expectations. Literally everything else was near impossible to get our hands on. Now that it's behind us, we are looking at alternative MCUs, like for the 60HE, so we can support 8k and fit it on the PCB for example.

[acoustic jasper]

Yeah exactly, I was asking Calder if it would be feasible to add the frost

[pseudo crag]

Interested to see what the frost looks like once yall get samples...that frosted acrylic look is amazing like you see on akko keyboards

[frozen flint]

have you watched their live they did like 10 ish hours ago

[acoustic jasper]

But ig it’s pretty cheap nonetheless to get after

[frozen flint]

they had the frost case out nothing in it

[fallow spire]

Frost we don't make it as assembled. The SKU count was just getting too overwhelming. We tried to cover most cases as assembled only for pre-order as it's easier to manage. When we start having it in stock, you'll most likely see that only black is pre-assembled, rest is module.

[acoustic jasper]

Yeah understandable 👍 you guys already have a lot of variations to deal with

[frozen flint]

this the frost they showed

[idle depot]

I gotta ask with your product line expanding, I saw people saying more switches are being made and there’s a knob project. Do you guys also plan on making more keycap options?

[small rune]

Will all of the 80he comes with the dust cover?

[acoustic jasper]

I saw that gif or video in the other chat, looks very unique

[frozen flint]

tbh i like the raw zinc one a bit more when i saw it in the video but idk how it would look on my setup

[pseudo crag]

I did but im pretty sure they said that wasnt the final design...only the solid black case is finalized

[umbral locust]

correct, only black plastic is finalized.

[frozen flint]

yeah but thats like a look into what it is

[valid comet]

Probably a slightly more beefy one than ghe 60HE I'd imagine. You guys have guts and thick skin given everything that happened with IC shortage and pandemic. GGs to the team and the community

[past marsh]

will there be a big perfomance difference between the 60he and 80he other than the 8khz? I wanna know before my 60he gets delivered so i can switch them out

[umbral locust]

no, same board

[frozen flint]

im pretty sure other than the 8k polling nothing is really diff

[umbral locust]

even 8khz is pretty minor

[frozen flint]

performance wise cuz rappy tappy is coming to all wooting

[valid comet]

Its not HUGE but probably semi-noticeable

[jade widget]

should be a much bigger sound and feel difference with the 80he performance not so much

[small rune]

Seems the 80he’s sensor upgraded to higher scanning rate, not sure about the performance.

[pseudo crag]

Performance wise you proabably wont notice the difference unless you're a mutant

[frozen flint]

btw i thought this one looked nice the raw zinc ( wish i could have seen the white zinc though )

[acoustic jasper]

Rapid trigger is the only noticeable thing on he boards, no matter the polling. Most of that delay will be coming from ur fingers lol

[jade widget]

yeah it's very raw 😂

[acoustic jasper]

But I think 1000hz is probably needed for he

[frozen flint]

i like it raw

[pseudo crag]

That raw looks so industrial....i like that tbh

[jade widget]

I think i'd prefer a bit more polish but as said in the livestream to get that level of finish would require hand polishing

[frozen flint]

thats what i was thinking

i thought is was just gonna be a basic silver look but i like the very raw look

cuz of the generated images online when i saw this in the vid i was like woah big difference

[small rune]

The raw looks good, but seems hard to match with the kaycaps😂

[frozen flint]

i have a concrete desk so i might like the raw zinc look more tbh

XD i picked the white zinc to match my pc cuz i thought the raw was more of just a silver look didnt think it would look that raw

[idle depot]

Concrete???

[frozen flint]

ye

[midnight iron]

We’ve seen photos of the zinc white already though (although not final cases)

[idle depot]

Send a picture! I’ve never seen a concrete desk before.

[frozen flint]

oh this there photos of the white?

you got them?

[midnight iron]

Yeah I posted some from sanders earlier

#🌟│wooting80he message

[fallen epoch]

Listening to the sound test on repeat like

[valid comet]

That discussion and infodump with Calder was insane and nothing like Ive ever experienced

[idle depot]

Isn’t it like 4am in NE?

[frozen flint]

oh yeah that looks clean

[valid comet]

The man stood up late just for us whaaat

[midnight iron]

Yeah white looks great as expected

[valid comet]

[frozen flint]

Sorry for the bad image quality 😅

That's the top of my desk

[valid comet]

Pretty tower

[dusk mortar]

What's new with the v2 switches?

[idle depot]

That looks super neat

[fallen epoch]

Calder shenanigans are always afoot, calder appears when you least expect it to drop some knowledge

[frozen flint]

calder seems like a nice dude

[midnight iron]

I like that the church of the white 80he has spread far and wide to all corners of wooting

Its success shall be used as an example of true great religious change

[jade widget]

in raw we trust

[fallen epoch]

May-haps the two churches can collaborate

[valid comet]

Dedicated to the study and craft of Hall Effect and Analog technology

[fallen epoch]

Thats our calder

[frozen flint]

the bishops use the white zinc the knights use the aluminum and the archbishops use the raw

XD

the white zinc should look clean

dont think ill change but heyo might buy a raw zinc case aswell later

[umbral locust]

for me it all depends on the sound test, but I doubt the zinc will sound better.

[fallen epoch]

Raw is my choice, then black after

Ghost is the starter case for me

[frozen flint]

ghost is probably the one id like to try and put rgb or some sort of lighting in XD

rgb case gives more fps everyone knows that

[violet dagger]

Hey don’t doubt it

[fallen epoch]

I just like the diffused lighting

[violet dagger]

I need the white zinc to sound good lmao

[frozen flint]

lol

[fallen epoch]

Gaskets more than enough

[umbral locust]

Well it just depends on what you prefer. I personally prefer the softer lower pitched sounds of plastic cases generally.

[pseudo crag]

Much easier to make plastic sound good

[violet dagger]

I will deff say the PCR case sounds good I’m hoping 80he sounds at least similar if not better

[fallen epoch]

Plastics hollow sound is very satisfactory

[frozen flint]

i have a razor keyboard its very plastic XD so im looking forward to a different sounding keyboard

[umbral locust]

which model?

[violet dagger]

Yeah I’m currently on razer green switches

[pseudo crag]

I wouldnt be surprised if the metal case sounds quiet with how dense it looks

[frozen flint]

bruh idek at this point

[violet dagger]

Blackwidow chroma over here

I use to be on the gpro TKL but shit broke it’s why I need 80he lmao

[frozen flint]

ornata chroma

[fallen epoch]

Lol well only a few months

[umbral locust]

my wooting replaced an ornata

Tbh I liked that keyboard, but there is no going back now

[frozen flint]

iv had this keboard for way too long

[valid comet]

My Wooting 80HE replaces a K70 RGB TKL with a busted up arrow switch

[frozen flint]

XD the keys probably dont even push down properly anymore

[violet dagger]

My WASD was fucked up

[frozen flint]

iv made the wrist rest on my keyboard raw

[dim sierra]

I will take any custom kb over gaming kb marketing bullshit

[pseudo crag]

I got a coolermaster rapidi i need to extract the cherry browns from

Desoldering

[fallow spire]

Industrial is what we're going for. That RAW is still a bit tooooo RAW. But I think we found a good middleground, but it won't be exactly like the render. It was too difficult to render. We're prioritizing finalizing these finishes/colors to help people make a better informed choice.

[umbral locust]

not just kbs, gaming anything.

[frozen flint]

tbh this razor keyboard has done its job for years playing like csgo and all sorts of competitive games

[violet dagger]

Did the stream show the white one again or no

[frozen flint]

the pc you saw in my picture i sent is my first built pc

[fallow spire]

We have a Cerakote sample btw, we didn't show it on stream. It looks really well, but here is the kicker.... the cost of coating is nearly the same as the cost of the case lmao. We're going to keep this for doing perhaps a limited edition, the color choices for cerakote is incredible.

[dim sierra]

Any kb that sounds bad just kills me internally rn

[frozen flint]

my last pc was using a gtx 750 that was my system for the last 10 years

XD was a crappy pre built one i got from a shop

[umbral locust]

Im so glad I am not picky with sounds. I think the standard 60he sound phenomenal and every change I've made has only made it worse lmao

[valid comet]

Hi again Calder, if you have any places where I can read up on the hall effect and the tunnel magneto resistor technologies, please send me some references and links! I woukd love to learn more about them :)

[umbral locust]

ACtually a few changes were positive, I don't wanna lie.

[frozen flint]

can we see a screenshot or a pic of it i havent seen it

[midnight iron]

Yeah cerakote is super pricy but makes for some unique colorways

[dim sierra]

i feel u, mostly because 3 party stab was too tight and make the keys mushy for me and had to switch back 💀

[valid comet]

Jed its cerakote! A sample!

[midnight iron]

I’m planning on some sort of titanium for my 80he cerakote personally

[fallow spire]

Google exactly this and you'll find a lot of information on it. Otherwise just ask chatgpt to give you a cohesive summary. I'm learning these things on-the-go as we talk with vendors, I just ask questions.

[fallow spire]

This is the Cerakote sample we made, the top plate is the titanium you linked lol

[dim sierra]

Sheeeesh

[midnight iron]

Ah I am ahead of my time. A founder of both the white 80he and titanium cerakote church

[violet dagger]

If u could describe the sound of the zinc alloy white would you say it sounds similar to the PCR or way different calder?

[frozen flint]

damn that actually looks nice

[fallow spire]

The bottom is Northeren lights

[verbal solar]

Dude! Have a color or two like burnt bronze or fde. Matching a mk18 weapons platform color scheme!

[ebon sluice]

best colourway I've seen in a long time - make it happen!

[pseudo crag]

Yea i know the bigboys in the keyboard scene do this with their holygrails....looks like nice but as you said, the price is......oof

[fallow spire]

The titanium is really interesting as from a different angle it can look a lot more silver

[dim sierra]

Cerakote finish just hits different

[fallow spire]

Northeren light has a slight green/purple glow depending on light, it's subtle, not something like pearl.

[idle depot]

I dig that look a lot

[valid comet]

Woah

[valid comet]

That looks so nice I love it!

[midnight iron]

Do you know what the cerakote color code is for the titanium you guys did? I know there’s a few sku of titanium they do

[fallow spire]

https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating/E-250/titanium

[frozen flint]

bruh my friend in norway gets the northern lights above their house all the time i still havent seen them in person

[dim sierra]

Go during Winter

[midnight iron]

Ah so that’s e250, good to know thanks

[pseudo crag]

That two tone colorway making those curves POP

[fallow spire]

Yeah, originally we were planning to do it 2 colorways with the standard model but we were really hitting a wall finding a good combination with black.

[frozen flint]

if you make this a limited edition how many would you make cuz i imagine it would sell out almost instantly

[fallow spire]

Sounds stupid, but we couldn't do a mega contrast with black or it would become super gimmick.

[jade widget]

I used this one for my tofu60 https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating/H-190/armor-black

[verbal solar]

https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating/C-148/burnt-bronze

[dim sierra]

One day wooting will have their own manufacturing

[valid comet]

Thats awesome

[umbral locust]

On the one hand I want wooting to grow and on the other I like the small company mom and pop feel. Once companies go public and hit a certain size it's just never the same.

[valid comet]

All of the cerakotes shown are so beautiful

[frozen flint]

lol its probably quite hard for them to get stuff the way they want it and have their own like major manufacturing because it will cost them a whole lot more and also probably limit them

[midnight iron]

I might try glacier titanium, supposed to be their lightest titanium shade so far https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating/C-7900/cerakote-glacier-titanium

[fallen forge]

raw zinc aesthetic be like (yes i just greyscaled kevins fingers)

[frozen flint]

lol

[verbal solar]

I am always trying to convince a designer to have a cerakoted combat weapon colored board 😅 would pair well with epbt firearm

[frozen flint]

why leave out kevin lol im sure calder wouldnt mind holding him and releasing kevin as part of the product

XD

[fallow spire]

No idea yet. In roughly speaking it'd go from a 120usd case to 170 usd case with the cerakote.

[umbral locust]

The wooting 500

[fallow spire]

lmao

[frozen flint]

tbh i can imagine people paying a premium for that case it does look very nice

[polar stirrup]

cerakote service where i live is around 100 usd

[fallow spire]

I have seriously thought about this, but I don't know yet how far I want to push things. I am interested in doing some small scale manufacturing for fun, but it's not the type of business I'd want to make my living with. Serious manufacturing is capital intense, low margin, and lots of people/negotiating.

I would enjoy the major puzzle and challenge of optimizing cost by output per minute with smarter work methods et al.

[midnight iron]

That’s pretty cheap. I’m paying $200 in Korea

[frozen flint]

thats what i was saying

[fallow spire]

Interesting

[dim sierra]

[fallow spire]

200$ for a third party to do Cerakote on your product?

and otherwise 100$ in USA?

[polar stirrup]

100 in vietnam

[fallow spire]

If there is enough familiarity with Cerakote and these are the prices to do it yourself, then it does add more weight to executing this.

It becomes a cost saving, unless it's not the cerakote you'd go for, but I guess that's the appeal of doing it yourself.

[umbral locust]

I'd def pay a to have you guys coat a case for me on an order.

I'm interested in cerakote enough to pay for it if it was available, but not enough for me to learn how to do it or go pay someone to do it locally.

[midnight iron]

Yeah cerakote is pricy anywhere from 100-200 depending on country and how many cerakoters are around.

[frozen flint]

oh much coating would you need per case

[midnight iron]

US has it cheap because they have so many gun shops that do it lol

[frozen flint]

cuz like that will change the prices

[pseudo crag]

Small batch, limited edition cases is probably something yall could do in the future

[frozen flint]

if you did a limited edition for cerakote would it be a limited number or limited time frame to place an order

[jade widget]

My cerakoted tofu60

[frozen flint]

thats clean

[pseudo crag]

My eyes cant tell if thats grey or more of a bronze

[polar stirrup]

looks grey to me

[rich notch]

Is wooting 80he wireless?

[jade widget]

https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating/H-190/armor-black

[polar stirrup]

wooting doesnt have anything wireless so far

[rich notch]

ok thx

[lime falcon]

Hello bigwoot

[valid comet]

Nope

[fallow spire]

I'd expect a Cerakote version (standalone case version, without module) would sell for 170 USD, but mind you, our zinc case includes daughter board, cable, puller, silicone feet, travel case.

Right now the zinc case MSRP is 10 USD too low (110 USD, we will need to modify to 120 USD).

With module, it'd be same discount, it'd land 150 usd for a cerakote version (regular is 100 usd)

This is just roughly speaking.

[valid comet]

You can definitely try doing something to make it wireless using a raspberry pi or arduino abd a 2.4GHz antenna and power bank

Bit hackey but ye doablo

[jade widget]

can't imagine manufacturing in norway would be cheap

[lime falcon]

we need more people in church of white plastic case guys

[valid comet]

Frost?

[lime falcon]

no frost isnt white

[valid comet]

There is white plastic

[lime falcon]

there is but its transparent

[valid comet]

Thats frost

[lime falcon]

we are the church of just white plastic case not transparent

[valid comet]

Frost is white transparent case

[lime falcon]

? I know

[valid comet]

Oh ok my bad

White plastic solid would seem cool yes

Especially with the white keycaps

[lime falcon]

surprised its not the option, literally top1-top2 most used case color?

[valid comet]

Besides black I think

[lime falcon]

yea

[ebon sluice]

Most popular would be black or silver, I rarely see white amognst the custom nerds

[lime falcon]

well its more popular than the ghost one atleast

or whatever its called Phantom

[frozen flint]

the aluminum cases for the 60he+ cost a good chuck too but i would have gone with the custom aluminum case if i was going with the 60he. I assume a lot of other people have made that choice already. i do realize that some people will get third party cases but i like getting stuff from one supplier but thats maybe just me. i do think some people would defiantly jump at the opportunity to get that sort of product from the main supplier saving them time and effort spent on doing it personally.

oof i think he went away while i was replying

[midnight iron]

It’s still early in Asia

[frozen flint]

yeah its 4am for me

[midnight iron]

Only about lunch time over here

[frozen flint]

im from the uk

[midnight iron]

It reminds me of wlmouse that used to offer custom prints on their mice for awhile but then they had to stop it because weird people kept submitting their nsfw hentai as their designs lol

[frozen flint]

jeez

[idle depot]

I don’t know who had to break the news at a board meeting but I wouldn’t want to be that guy.

[pseudo crag]

Lmao thats actually funny, i woulda never even thought about that

Those people be wildin

[frozen flint]

id just be using a bunch of slang

id be like like we need to dip with this printing thing these peeps be wack on god ( walks away so other board members cant reply )

[winged apex]

thats only in production we have no clue how good it will get in gaming, mind you 50% gain is not even double fps

[frozen flint]

no but the current 4090 does hit over 100fps like like 95% of all games at 4k

so it would be safe to assume a 50% increase would be like atleast 150 fps

plus dlss is getting upgrades all the time

[grim fiber]

just gimme 1440p@360fps

Pepega

[frozen flint]

dlss is getting an upgrade in keeping graphics quality

[valid comet]

PG27AQN gang

ULMB 2

[grim fiber]

OkHandspinner

[jade widget]

so many oled options to choose from 💸

[frank pebble]

Is there any customer service from Wooting here?

[fallow spire]

We are around discord but don’t do active support on discord. We prioritize the emails.

[frank pebble]

How long does it usually take to reply to an email?

[hot sinew]

Day 3 of asking for a limited edition red case for the 80he😭😭red is so common in gaming setups yet nobody makes red keyboards

[winged apex]

lol more like 70fps

[icy cosmos]

I have the same idea if the RAW doesn’t come out the way I like it. Cerakote is very durable if applied and cured correctly.

[delicate orchid]

Will the 80he come with a coil cable or that a separate purchase?

[jade widget]

seperate

[tranquil pike]

did you guy tried cancel order ?

how long will get the refund

[fallow spire]

Currently it’s overloaded again due to launch. We are aiming within 3 business days, depending on your urgency, this is true now, otherwise expect 4-5 business days.

[fallow spire]

That is a separate purchase. Quality Coiled cables themselves are quite pricey.

[fallow spire]

Cancellations are prioritized.

[neat tusk]

Has anyone tried Wooting with CeraKey? Can the switch spring handle the weight of cerakeys?

[tranquil pike]

Hi , what can i do if want to cancel order

[honest linden]

[e-mail]

[jade widget]

I believe all the keys apart from spacebar are fine

spacebar is too heavy

[polar stirrup]

yes its working fine for me

l60

[balmy wraith]

80 better than 60 right? 😂

More keys

I wonder if there’s any 3rd party cases for the 80he module

[buoyant solstice]

Not at the moment.

Of course the keyboard doesn't exist either 😄

[balmy wraith]

😂

True true

[fathom flame]

[ebon sluice]

better performance, better case design and options, more keys(but not enough for someone who works in finance), just bettererer. 60HE was the little prince but a new king born

[polar stirrup]

gasket mount also

[balmy wraith]

Just make a 60he as a numpad

[ebon sluice]

[dusk mortar]

What's difference between lekker v1 and v2

[ebon sluice]

2 is higher than 1 so therefore it's superior

[polar stirrup]

no info aside its better

[dusk mortar]

Huge

[umbral locust]

I want a wooting numpad

[balmy wraith]

Gamers don’t need numpads

😂

[umbral locust]

nah we do

[polar stirrup]

just get 3 uwu and make a numpad

[dusk mortar]

If there's enough requests will wooting consider having the frost case available preassembled? I'd rather have that one

[ebon sluice]

what do you use the numpad for?

[polar stirrup]

honnestly assembling isnt that hard

as pcb and plate are already assembled

[umbral locust]

Data entry

[polar stirrup]

just need to put in case, switches and keycaps

[ebon sluice]

if you can assemble Lego you can assemble a keyboard. Pretty basic and Wooting will have videos on how-to's

[umbral locust]

I currently use a Keychron Q0 Plus that I use on the left of my wooting.

[dusk mortar]

It's not about assembling it's about me losing value on the keycaps if I get the switches because I want a different coloured case

[umbral locust]

I personally can't live without a numpad but It has to be on the left of the keyboard so I can use my left hand.

I use it in some games but not that common.

[polar stirrup]

10 dollars not that bad

plus other keycaps look better

[ebon sluice]

You should try using blank keycaps without a numpad. It's pretty much like dragging your coconuts on shards of broken glass. Can't wait to go back to normie caps

[umbral locust]

Pretend the white case is $10 more expensive. You'll live.

[high whale]

Wooting Two HE

[umbral locust]

No thanks

[karmic grotto]

@quick bridge yeah I realized once I sent the message my name was yellow hahaha

[small rune]

Buy a separate wireless numpad sounds good

[umbral locust]

Do yall not bother reading for context before giving unsolicited advice

I have a numpad already 😂

[red heart]

Maybe you should buy another

[small rune]

Then problem solved

[umbral locust]

What problem?

[small rune]

Nvm

[stark gull]

I have a question will the 80he require that special detachable wire?

for enhance performance

[buoyant solstice]

No it will not. The included straight cable will do everything.

[stark gull]

is it possible to use the detachable for it

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[stark gull]

if i bought it for my 60 he

[buoyant solstice]

The detatchable and stock cable have the same functionality on the same board. 🙂

[stark gull]

Your awesome Mansen Thank you

[buoyant solstice]

The only keyboard the detatchable cable isn't compatible with is the 2HE, because of where the USB port is on the keyboard. It hits the sides.

[soft eagle]

Hello, I cannot get respond to my emails over a month, I need to talk someone please 😦

I'll explain the issue anyway, as many of us, I was waiting for campaign kick off for long time and I was ready to purchase in first minute, then I faced that problem in the screen like that:

[buoyant solstice]

Place the order without the switches, then send us an email asking us to add the switches. That's the only solution right now.

[soft eagle]

and I've sent couple of emails no respond, and I wasn't able to purchase when there was stock

[soft eagle]

yes, i've learned from someone else from Turkey, so I did

[buoyant solstice]

There's definitely not "stock" as this is a pre-order for (late) summer.

[soft eagle]

oh, first time when campaign started i saw in stock

[buoyant solstice]

Nope

[soft eagle]

i was crying for days i missed the chance haha 🙂

[buoyant solstice]

The issue you're running into here specifically, is that the shipping option doesn't allow an order that weighs this much. Which we need to solve internally.

[soft eagle]

so, im gonna get my free switches even not on the basket?

i placed my order anyway

[buoyant solstice]

Once you email us, and we get it fixed on your order, yes 🙂

[soft eagle]

I sent couple of emails but never get respond any of them, you need more ppl for as customer support 🙂

and it's my job, you can hire me! 😄

[buoyant solstice]

We're working on that to be sure - Suffice to say the initial flood of emails kind of drowned us when the campaign started. 😉

[soft eagle]

alright, thanks Mansen. just one last question, 80HE switches is V2?

L60 I presume

[buoyant solstice]

Yep.

Preassembled 80HE will have L60v2 switches, and the free pack of L45 is also v2.

[soft eagle]

perfect!

Im sending you my CV, if you consider to hire some ppl as Customer Representative professionals, I would like to work for Wooting 🙂

[lethal abyss]

Check the careers tab on their website I think they have some positions open

[soft eagle]

better to handle it with CEO directly, always 😄

[lethal abyss]

Mansen isn’t ceo he’s just customer support as well

[soft eagle]

oh

just woke up, sorry 😄

[crystal locust]

Oh yeah i was about to ask, What was the shipping process like when the 60he launched, were the shipping estimates about right?

[soft eagle]

I'll do that then, thanks!

[soft eagle]

I've purchased 2 60HE

It was kinda bit earlier than expectation, I can say that

[crystal locust]

O that sounds good

[soft eagle]

yeah, I don't have much for 80HEs same way, but who knows, I don't think it will be late, after August

[crystal locust]

Granted, i can wait, no rush rlly. Since i didnt want to go for the 60he just for gaming since i like my function and arrow keys too much

[soft eagle]

much hope*

[runic glacier]

is the zinc worth it

[crystal locust]

depends on how hot the summer is going to be. not like I'll be sitting on a computer when the sun is scorching

[buoyant solstice]

It was... 9 months I think? With a delay of a couple of months in total.

[soft eagle]

depends on your expectation, its heavier, but naturally last longer than plastic

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-bart-simpson-lisa-simpson-worth-it-totally-worth-it-gif-16637725

[soft eagle]

I work as CR, you see? 😄

[crystal locust]

I'd hold my breath and wait for sound tests. Sometimes metal based cases produce a worse sound (subjective ofc)

[soft eagle]

its heavier zinc and sound might be different, I mean its all matter of preferences. If you not gonna move your keyboard much and if you want something last longer and and bit more treble sounds, so zinc is the wai

[runic glacier]

that sounds right for me

[soft eagle]

I've order plastic, ghost one, coz I care about sound

[crystal locust]

^

[nova nexus]

https://help.wooting.io/article/110-do-you-ship-to-my-country-no-options-provided

[runic glacier]

ive got a razer keyboard right now - anything will be an upgrade in terms of sound from wooting

[crystal locust]

for me also money

[runic glacier]

i like the metal on the razer though just thought i might not like the feeling of plastic

[soft eagle]

sure it is, just didn't wanna mention it hehe 😄

[soft eagle]

my mouse and glass mousepad is Razer, but if its about keyboard, always wooting

why i would prefer replicas if there is orginal :p

[runic glacier]

i always thought wooting was some indie small company always out of stock until i actually looked at it lol

[soft eagle]

yeah, when I was searching for keyboards, got almost same impression, but hallelujah internet, you reach almost all the info

then i stick to the wooting, always

[runic glacier]

currently in the process of trying to return my razer because the w key stopped working properly lol

ive had to return razer keyboards like 4 times in the last 2 years

[soft eagle]

I'm pretty satisfied always my Razer mouses, since deathadder v1, 2009, but keyboard nope

[runic glacier]

yeah razer good quality but idk the keyboards just dont seem as good as the wooting seems to be

[crystal locust]

yt is a good source for peripheral stuff

optimum tech yter has some good comparisons. when i weighed my options

wooting stayed on top every time, even tho the alternatives werent much worse

[soft eagle]

the thing is, think like food, there is a store makes only 1 product, and there is another restaurant 5 product, its mostly better to purchase who sales only 1 product

[crystal locust]

when i began gaming i also was a razer guy

[soft eagle]

coz they are experted on that, focus only one thing

[crystal locust]

pc gaming that is, late 2020

[runic glacier]

i literally had razer everything until i switched to different stuff like artisan finalmouse and beyerdynamic

keyboard is like the last thing lol

[soft eagle]

if ergo mouse, i adore my deathadder v3 with 8k polling and glass mousepad awesome

[runic glacier]

yea i had the v3 it was really good

[soft eagle]

never gonna change my mouse anything else but Razer

[runic glacier]

i just wanted to try fingertip instead of palm and claw

[soft eagle]

yeah maybe, i have big hands and its perfect for me v3

[runic glacier]

yea i liked it a lot

especially coming from the v2 deathadder that was really meh

[soft eagle]

yep, i didnt use v2 deathadder

[jade widget]

Razer makes good mice they make trash software though

[soft eagle]

+1

[jade widget]

Same with pretty much all the big brands

[violet dagger]

Same for me deathadder v3 feels perfect for large hands

[soft eagle]

as nvidia

[tight cypress]

dav3 is one amazing mouse

[soft eagle]

i rly dont like the software, maybe that new beta software gonna be ok

[jade widget]

Preferred the older deathadder shape tbh v3 is smaller than previous versions

[runic glacier]

i used it for a week and i had so many bugs lmao
was fine for the mouse but the keyboard was crazy randomly typing and stuff

faster software though

the new beta i mean ^

[violet dagger]

I feel like everyone on gpro superlights and I own it but I can’t get use to it cuz my hands are to big

[pseudo parrot]

i will probably get that one soon, ive had some qc issues with multiple copies of superlight mice

[tall root]

hey, guys. Does anyone know when the latest batch of 60he will be shipped?

The 60he I purchased on March 15 has not been shipped yet.

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account
The information on the hub is what to look for,.

[tall root]

thank you. It already says "shipping to you", but the logistics information on FedEx has not been updated for a week. I don't know what's going on

[buoyant solstice]

If it already shipped to you, it already shipped to you. Has nothing to do with batches or the warehouse not having stock.

I would recommend contacting FedEx for an update, and emailing us just in case as well.

[tall root]

I sent you an email but no reply

[crystal locust]

is there a sound test out for the pre order bonus switches for the 80he

oh rlly

alrighty, ty

[winter coral]

Newest YouTube Video you can hear them. From my Point of view way better than v1 - wont get jade.

[winged pelican]

Anyone know if I can add multiple cases to a single Module order?

[nova nexus]

You can yes, though you may need to back out of the configurator after adding the base module order to your cart and head back to the storefront directly to add more things

[crystal locust]

Oh rlly. That’s nifty. Thank you

[dim sierra]

Jade best

[winged pelican]

Wtf it said I was logged in and apparently wasn't so my order is not in my account 😅😅😅

maybe some cache issue

[buoyant solstice]

It can take an hour or more for new orders to appear on the hub.

[winged pelican]

Wooting is friendly with order cancellations?

[dim sierra]

yes

[pseudo parrot]

very

[winged pelican]

okay thx

[dim sierra]

3 days to reply and another 3 days for the fund to go through

[pseudo parrot]

same, except 2 days for the money back, good support

[winged pelican]

frost PCR is back in the shop

[nova nexus]

All preorders can be cancelled for a full refund any time prior to it getting submitted for fulfillment.

Only caveat to that is if you cancel and have refunded 3 or more orders without having something delivered in between, we will on the 3rd cancellation charge you a fee to cover the transaction fees we paid to process your payments.

From the support side of things, cancellations and refunds are the highest priority for our customer service team and are prioritized over all other types of service requests.

[winged pelican]

makes sense, im sorry to the team if there are some costs & inconveniences 😦

[buoyant solstice]

It happens - Ultimately it's our job to create happy customers, even if it is sometimes a bit of a process 😄

[winged pelican]

I thought about asking to transfer the order from one email to another but that's just another layer of complications so decided to just cancel completely 😄

[buoyant solstice]

https://help.wooting.io/article/79-transferring-ownership-of-an-order

You should be able to do that yourself with a bit of clicking. 🙂

[winged pelican]

😄 ahhhh shiiit it's too late now

[dawn merlin]

...

[winged pelican]

the mail is in the pipes

and I made the third and final order

[buoyant solstice]

If you try and do it yourself, and send a followup email - That still saves us some work. We just have to read the last email and go "oh yeah they already fixed it" and close the ticket. 🙂

[nova nexus]

Yes, we don't work weekends or holidays

[tepid crane]

Xd love the 77.5% joke,
Had me confused for a moment, did a little searching and was amused why it was called 77.5%

[small rune]

(80%+75%)/2=77.5%🤣

[upbeat berry]

thats not how math works

also not where it comes from

[small rune]

Then why🤣?
I thought it’s because the size of 80he is between 75% and 80%.

[upbeat berry]

well yesnt its mainly cause the community started jockingly calling it that

also if thats what your math was supposed to show please use parenthesis around the addition

[small rune]

Done🫡

[obtuse wagon]

Indeed we did

Because thats what it is, 77.5HE should have been the official name

[lunar dragon]

I ordered the Zinc Alloy, I will however cancel that if you announce a PCR White version, really the only reason I went with the Zinc case, because it's white (and not transparent).

[nova nexus]

There are no immediate plans to add additional case options, but could be something in the future

[lunar dragon]

I'm worried about the weight, but that's really my only concern

[upbeat berry]

i think final weight of zinc case and 80he module together is 2.1kg or so

[lunar dragon]

Yea, quite heavy for a keyboard and I microadjust my keyboard a lot doing gaming

whether it's because the keyboard moves while I game and I "re-adjust" it and so a heavier keyboard would actually help on that, I can't say.

[dim sierra]

heavy kb does not move

unless u slammed it

[fallen epoch]

punch it to move

(note: this causes -5 self-damage)

[magic raven]

Any info on when the raw zinc case will be available as an option for pre-order? 😄

[jolly tangle]

now

the render isnt final

[magic raven]

Ah what I meant was are there plans to offer it as an option for prebuilt

[buoyant solstice]

Not at all.

We're doing this deliberately to keep the amount of preassembled keyboards with specific configurations as low as possible.

Every time we make a case option available to preassembled that's three different products we need to stock separate. One for ANSI, one for ISO and one for JIS.

It is -much- simpler to just stock one bare module for each language, and then the loose cases.

Raw Zinc just happened to be much more popular than we originally planned for.

[silk hedge]

Get swole with the wooting 80he zinc case

[low token]

It does. It only require little push

[magic raven]

I see. Ty!

[delicate orchid]

Thanks for the reply.

[lunar dragon]

Weird how Raw Zinc is popular, essentially it's just a gray case, to each their own. I love the white one.

[spark hound]

Ppl have different opinions

I also choose white. Seemed like a safer choice

[midnight iron]

Some limited edition cerakoted cases would be really neat honestly. Even if it was $200 per cerakoted zinc case, some folks like myself would still happily buy it vs. having to cerakote it ourselves

[magic raven]

For me I think it'll play nicer with a wider range of keycaps than black. White doesn't fit my setup and is also just not my thing so much

[delicate orchid]

I bought 2 black 80he one plastic other zinc. 1 will be a backup/travel keyboard. New to modding keyboards but excited to see what modding stuff will be for the 80he.

[dim sierra]

if u push it from the case it moves but not when u use it normally

[nova nexus]

I think that with the raw case, a lot of people have their personal expectation for how they think it will look, which may or may not be aligned with reality. Once we determine what that reality actually is, there will probably be some amount of people who won't like what we've ended up with and some who will like it even more

We don't publish these files until the units are in customer's hands, but you can get a reference point via the design files hosted for the 60HE

[sullen sand]

The reality is Calder will be adding sandpaper to the box so they can finish it themselves

jk

[nova nexus]

Spacing as in, between the alphanumeric keys and the locations of the LEDs/sensors per key, yea effectively the same

It's possible that it's tweaked by a hair, I don't know if there's a "standard" for that inter-key spacing or not.
The location and spacing of the nav cluster and arrow keys is also finalized and won't change

[dark bison]

\

[worldly turret]

Hi all

Quick question in the 8kh polling. Would it be enough to plug this into a super speed USB A port or would it have to go into a dedicated USB C port? If the controller on the board is the same then it should not matter, surely?

[tight cypress]

Any USB port will do, as long as it's at least 2.0

[worldly turret]

Thank you so much

[lunar dragon]

So 8k should give a latency of 0.125 , so 4k is 0.250? or

[tight cypress]

Well yeah
1000ms/8000Hz = 0.125
1000ms/4000Hz = 0.25 and so on

USB 3.0+ can be more or less reliably pushed to over 24kHz, but 8kHz is one of the standards

And that would need custom USB drivers too

[lunar dragon]

and is this something you know.. because that's only how it would be logically, doesn't mean that's how it actually is

[upbeat berry]

usb3 also is limited to 8khz polling i think

[tight cypress]

When following USB standard then yeah, 8kHz is max
But since it's interrupt driven, you can throw at it whatever, as long as you also write drivers for it

[upbeat berry]

i would imagine the main issue is that at some point the OS timer resolution wouldnt even be up to the task

[amber violet]

Had a question, knowing that now the 80HE will be coming out. Will there be any updates (software) for the 60HE itself to be able to do higher Hz too or does the hardware limit it ?

Super curious for this one tbh

[drifting zephyr]

Unfortunately no the 60he wont have 8k because it needs a bigger chip they talked about it in the livestream yesterday

[amber violet]

aaah I see

[tight cypress]

Hardware limits it unfortunately to 1kHz, it needs different MCU to be able to do 8k

[amber violet]

ow alright alright

Guess will have to wait for the new 60HE 8k hahaha

[silk hedge]

60he will however get rappy snappy

[amber violet]

hahaha

[silk hedge]

1ms delay vs 0.125 ms delay i highly doubt you will be able to tell

[amber violet]

indeed

even my pc doesn't run that fast to actually noticed it.

[drifting zephyr]

can someone explain rappy snappy what it does and even if its worth it

[silk hedge]

If you press 2 keys at the same time the one pressed down the furthest takes priority

[tight cypress]

[silk hedge]

Wooting is gonna join the fighting game controller market i just know it

[upbeat berry]

we already have youre just not creative enough

[red heart]

i legit had a friend ask if he could get this tech in his frame1

[upbeat berry]

#1037726692120203274 message

#WootingStick

[tight cypress]

We need something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvO_Wr5_uTQ

[silk hedge]

Dibs on the name Kungfooting HE™

[upbeat berry]

have you opened my link?

[tight cypress]

Oh
That's nice

[upbeat berry]

fully 3d printable

[dusty lava]

no need for stick just set your wooting up as a rectangle

by rectangle i mean a leverless controller

[fallen forge]

wooting leverless controller next pls with rapid trigger and rappy snappy

[lime falcon]

wootstick

[icy cosmos]

We’re already making preorder based on your track records. The amount of preorders of the 80HE shows the level if Trust we (customers) puts on this company. Those who buys the RAW colour know the risk and potential that comes with it 😉.

[icy cosmos]

What colour of Cerakote would you like to see as Limited editions?

[midnight iron]

Something like a Cerakote C-105 i think is really pretty as a very unique color https://www.cerakote.com/shop/cerakote-coating/C-105/titanium

very similar to the E-250 calder posted earlier in the sample, but it's a touch more warm hue so it looks just that bit more unique vs. the E-250 silvery titanium

[icy cosmos]

Good choice

[nova nexus]

I don't mean to say that large swaths of people will think that the product we end up with isn't good, just that currently the idea of the "raw" case is a bit nebulous and therefore lots of interpretations could be valid until such time that we settle on one specific implementation

One thing I will commit to is that we will make it easy to swap to a different case via the Hub. That way, once we do get to the totally finalized version, it will be simple for customers to get the product they want most

Going from plastic-to-zinc or from zinc-to-plastic may be a little trickier, but zinc-to-zinc and plastic-to-plastic will be made as seamless as possible

[kindred ether]

im abt to preorder my wooting, and i want to build my own with the module, im looking to select a switch and is there any performance difference between l45 and l60, or is it just sound preference?

[pseudo parrot]

Just preference, l45 is lighter than l60

[umbral locust]

Just to clarify, we can swap from zinc to plastic and vice versa? Or just change the color of the material we initially chose?

EDIT: NVM I just read the rest of it

[umbral locust]

It's just for how they feel.

[kindred ether]

and when you order the module with the official case it doenst come preinstalled correct?

[upbeat berry]

module doesnt come preassembled

[umbral locust]

If you were wondering, the prebuilt 80he will come with L60s, just like the other boards.

[buoyant solstice]

(But the new and improved V2)

[red heart]

i really wonder how they will feel

and how pre lubed they are

[dim sierra]

Well lubed

[jolly wind]

every day i check my calendar to see if it's july yet...

[umbral locust]

https://tenor.com/view/giggles-gif-26049387

Can always apply more lube as needed

[verbal solar]

need support help.. i emailed wooting and it's been 13 days no response

[jolly wind]

send a follow up email, sometimes things get missed 🙂

[lime falcon]

i love lubing

[verbal solar]

did twice 💔

[lime falcon]

everything

[regal pilot]

Question if anyone can answer. What is the expected wait time when emailing support?

[lime falcon]

because of 80he release their inbox is exploded so i guess u need to wait a little more, 13 days is long waiting time tho

[umbral locust]

Right now it's probably 2 weeks unless it's a cancellation or refund.

Normally it's 1-5 days.

[regal pilot]

Ye it's a cancellation of 2 orders. I found an order I am happy with but It's been over a week lol

[verbal solar]

oh okay cool good to know im not the only one waiting over a week @regal pilot

[umbral locust]

If it's the 80he then just be patients, you have months before they get shipped out.

[lime falcon]

whats ur problem? @verbal solar

[umbral locust]

If it's another product, put it on hold in the hub and they will get to it eventually 🙂

[verbal solar]

sounds crazy but they literally sent me an empty package ...

[lime falcon]

💀

invisible wooting is a limited edition

u got it congrats

[verbal solar]

💔

[umbral locust]

The wooting 0he

[lime falcon]

they will help u with that, dont worry

[regal pilot]

yeeee it's tough. cause I was contacted by a human and a bot 3 days apart. confirmed my cancellation and then silence

[verbal solar]

i believe they will it's just been awhile since i got an email back but with everything going on it makes sense ig.

[steep bobcat]

Does not ordering the keycaps mean the additional keycaps won't be sent with the keyboard?

[buoyant solstice]

ANSI includes preinstalled keycaps. ISO and JIS do not (they are optional)
All Modules have no keycaps.

[steep bobcat]

I'm in the UK so I use iso but there's additional keycaps including the wooting logo and I was wondering if the wooting logo keycaps will come with the keyboard

[buoyant solstice]

If you buy keycaps, you're getting a fullsized keyboard worth of keycaps - that includes numpad.

[winged pelican]

Do people remove factory lube before applying new lube?

[toxic zephyr]

nope

[jolly tangle]

no

[winged pelican]

thank fck 😄

[crystal locust]

You put lube on lube. Make the space bar get stuck when you press it down once

[jolly tangle]

I learned from custom lube, I will never lube a switch again

[toxic zephyr]

same

[winged pelican]

looks therapeutic

[umbral locust]

I'm debating on lubing my first ever set of switches.

But man I can't be arsed

[winged pelican]

i want maximum thocc from these jades

[umbral locust]

Jades be clacky

[winged pelican]

yes like all HE switches ig

[umbral locust]

It's a shame because I love how they feel but they sound like absolute ass to me.

Imo Lekkers/Raptors are more thocky. Jades are uniquely clacky because of their bottom housing

[jolly tangle]

very generous of gatreon to beta test their switches

wooting v2 will be great

[winged pelican]

I've watched about 20 yt vids on lekkers vs jades - jades+lube is the most thocc

[umbral locust]

part of the issue is that the term thocc has lost all meaning

[winged pelican]

yeah maybe our understanding of thocc is different

maybe the word's meaning changed

🤷🏻‍♂️

[lime nova]

is it a big diff between lubed jades vs how they come in factory lubed? If you happen to know

[jade widget]

New lekker v2s sound much improved from the sound tests

[lime falcon]

yea

[keen wraith]

where are the sound tests ?

[fallen epoch]

I think theres one on the 80he product page, just scroll down some

[keen wraith]

gotcha thanks

[lean latch]

I got the 80he how do i get role

I connected the wooting bot to discord

[tight cypress]

Have you refreshed rewards? https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

[sullen sand]

click claim rewards

or refresh, whatever it is

[lean latch]

g

I got it now

[low token]

@lean latch what wootang 80he did you get

[lean latch]

module

[low token]

What case

[lean latch]

plastic

[low token]

Which one

[lean latch]

black

[low token]

Phantom or solid

[lean latch]

phantom

[lime falcon]

[umbral locust]

Phantom is goated

[tawny flame]

vandal is better

[lime falcon]

[low token]

Mate we are talking about case colour not about dating sim

[tawny flame]

Oh my bad

[lime falcon]

uwu

[echo forge]

dating sim

anyone got recommendations for where to buy keycaps?

[umbral locust]

https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/

[hot sinew]

Add a screen mod like the apex pro tkl

[violet garnet]

is the 80HE still in its first batch?

[verbal solar]

Yep, NA-Champion or EU-Kampioen

[nocturne smelt]

Hello guys ! I bought the wooting 80 he and the gateron jade swithes ... so how I can put them in the keyboard

[glad fable]

Module or Prebuilt?

[nocturne smelt]

Prebuilt

[verbal solar]

First you remove the keycaps from the included keycap puller, then you remove the switches with the switch puller which is also included. Then you just grab your switches and click them in.

Pretty sure Wooting also has a video on this

Here is is: https://youtu.be/-KtpE1mv23s?si=PE1SCq1nU3mO5cNO

It may say Lekker but you follow it for the jades as well

[nocturne smelt]

Will the switches still work on the software or the default switches who comes with the keyboard only work?

[nocturne smelt]

Thanks 😊

[verbal solar]

Yes of course they will work as they are magnetic

[verbal solar]

No problem, hope you enjoy your keyboard (in a couple months)

[nocturne smelt]

Ok thanks

[winged birch]

I love how “Ghost” isn’t yet named Phantom but many already call it that.

[nocturne smelt]

Does the keyboard will arrive after the 22 days of Founder Campaign or it will delayed

[verbal solar]

It should’ve shown you the estimated delivery date when you placed the order

If you are NA like me then you will most likely get it mid-late July

[lime falcon]

i have bad news, if u order now u will get it in 5 months

but it worths the wait

[nocturne smelt]

Are you serious 😐

[lime falcon]

Yes

[verbal solar]

It’s the first batch so everyone has the same delivery??

[lime falcon]

yes july-august