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have you checked https://hub.wooting.io/
Access and edit your orders, connect your discord, and manage your Wooting account.
What's the weight of the zinc alloy case
2100g or so
yeah a bit over 2kg or a bit over 4.4lbs (thats what i recall at least)
ah
Just the case? Not full keyboard?
According to the spec sheet on the landing page at least 
so 2.16kg or 4.76lbs
Good question. I'll have to ask that tomorrow 
wait nobody else has asked that?
The ABS case can’t be 790 grams alone, surely the full weight of the entire board is stated and not just their cases’.
60HE with packaging was 1500g I believe.
What r you guys gonna be using alongside your 80HE?? (Mouse, etc.)
AC2 deskpad. g pro x superlight
With packaging, sure.
60HE
790 gram ABS, then I’d presume the board would be over a KG.
That’s the entire board right?
Feel free to grill Calder about it next time he swings by to leak stuff 😄
It’s been awhile since we’ve had some Calder leaks
I was thinking that the whole keyboard in abs is 800g… ??? How the plastic can be 800g?
My current mouse and pad, just waiting for that nice keyboard now to match🫡
Only scale I've got atm.
We’ll see. I have my doubts still.
LOL
The 80HE’s ABS case is infused with tungsten.
pure osmium fr
Smoky 80he with xtrfy mz1 in similar smoky black, prolly won't match well but 🙏
Current setup
Superlight
Im currently using the razer viper ultimate but i plan to switch to wl mouse
But im a bit iffy about the battery life of the wlmouse so im hoping for a revisited version and the mini isnt an option for my hands
I'd take worse battery life over terrible software any day
Deathadder V3 and artisan zero
If this calculator is accurate, a solid slab of ABS would be 300 grams more than the 80HE’s ABS case.
for me I went for viper v2 pro, my GPX got double clicking after 3 months so I demoted it to work mouse.
I'd definitely be joining the WLMouse discord to get a gauge on what issues some people are having. My unit was fine but that battery is horrible
hahahaha, same
And it’s a very good work mouse for me lol
haha glad to see im not the only one. Maybe someday I will replace the gpx switches.
It's weird that razer mice with optical switches are actually hotswappable but they dont sell them.
Is the wl mouse software horrible?
I did join it some time ago and it seems most issues with the batterylife seem to be software related
Lamzu Maya and Lgg Saturn got me feeling content finally, nice combo imo
WLMouse discord is a mess
🤨
i like my wires
G502 lightspeed with all weights
How come?
from my experience just a lot of unhinged people with very lax moderation
bro drinks his milk to have arms that strong
Battery life on wlmeme mouse is horrible, polling rate is a mess

From what i've seen polling rate seems fine
what does this mean? that only the case can be 700 gram?
Battery life is the problem, i'd instantly buy the ulx if it had the wlx design, or the other way around if the wlx had the battery life of the ulx
Can not. A solid slab of ABS in the exact 80HE case dimensions would be 300 grams heavier. That is not possible so there most likely was a miscommunication between Erik and Mans.
Anyone from EU and knows some good Sites for keycaps i wanna start a collection xD
I have the WL mouse. Software is definitely not aesthetic and pleasing at all, but gets the job done. As for battery life, I had no issues keeping it at 2k polling rate (lasts me for an entire day of Cs). One issue with my unit is that when low battery (around 10%), the sensor starts having a mind of it's own. Another issue is that you can still feel the grooves at the side with the grip tape on, which may or may not be off putting for you.
@silk hedge but that design is nt practical too big holes tbh
I also strap 5kg weight to my wrist
Do you want only from eu?
What are the dimensions of the Wooting 80He
ty
I like it
damn
August 2024 for first batch oof. Do I go for module?! Coming from the Lekker.
Did everyone here get Mid-July as well? From the order page, that's my estimate. Not sure what 3 days does.
I went for module because I wanted the frost pcr case 
frost pcr case? :0
Never had a keyboard like that before, only had blacks keyboard so thought it would be a nice change haha
But you should go with what you want 
ah i see it now.
Went with Module & Raw
so I'm coming from aluminum Lekker. How would zinc alloy compare weight/feel wise?
google saying Zinc heavier, lel.
I believe it’ll be between 2-3 kg for the zinc alloy case
On the site
Oh aha
The lekker edition is probably 950grams?
ah thanks. Was looking for that info just now lol. That's weight of whole keyboard but the case can be estimated from that.
ok so the zinc case is much heavier lol. Wonder how that compares sound wise.
Will get some sound tests in due time
The sound test on wootings 80he page is pcr with hand lubed stabilizers if I’m not mistaken
Yes
Would prefer that cuz i dont wanna hassle with the import stuff
Test
obviously, you're comparing plastic to metal here 🤔
This mouse would be nice but would like a solid in this colour also infinite scroll wheel is so good and don't really want to trade that away https://www.wlmouse.com/cdn/shop/products/yinse_8d62fd12-b86f-4a95-bb86-76807dc32295.png
Might have to go Raw because I'm afraid the White paint might scratch off.
I was comparing the 950g Lekker I have to the 2160 Zinc alloy 80HE lol
raw can have the same issue just that its not paint but it would tarnish where its scratched
oof, so that's tough then. The Lekker I have is spotless. Probably because of anodization or w/e.
anodization also easily scratches off
Assuming it's cerakote it should be pretty durable
ok. Well just wondering if the Zinc Alloy will be as durable. I guess you're saying that it is.
unless you frequently use metal tools on it there shouldnt be any issues
what are you guys doing with your keyboard that is damaging paint
putting adhesive tape on it 
if you know you know
You do not pay import tax below 150€
Wedding Ring (platinum) is my fear 🫠
For ugly scratches
must be one sharp wedding ring
That Not, but i dont know how durable the paint is.
if its a properly made wedding ring that has no sharp edges or corners AND you dont press it into the metal then nothing will happen
itll just glide over the other surface
the same way it prob doesnt damage any plastics which are way softer
Yeah your keycaps are more likely to be hit with the ring anyway don't go buying any ceramic keycaps 
Did the 60HE have 8k poll rate?
so about that alloy typing test 
Nope
1k?
Yup
@dreamy sedge tho there list. https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list/ i also used mykeyboard.
Cant wait to try go from L60 v1 to L45 v2 🙆🏼♂️🙆🏼♂️
so 80HE is skipping 4K and going from 1K to 8K? Baller. Easy Bronze to GM

Can anyone confirm the f key distance to number row is shorter? Any hard numbers out there for this? Just eye test looks closer, but I'd like to know how much. :d
4k is boring bigger better
depends on what you mean shorter, shorter than some other keyboards?
looks shorter than all standard keyboards with F keys, including my Lekker. Which is a good thing, I want it closer, was just wondering how much we were talking :0
it does look somewhat shorter than Two HE
Any bit shorter is good for me, reaching for ESC always is a struggle
another good thing is almost no gap between F4 and F5, etc
Agreed, that gap always messes with me 
i used to only buy keyboards that have absolutely no gap between numbers and f-row for playing mmos
:3
was hoping 80he would be something like that, but close enough 
yeah I wanted same, but good enough. I didn't even know those types of keyboards existed. Must be off-brand custom stuff. 
i was using nuphy air75 for that before 60he, imo low profile ergonomics are top notch, but key feel is meh
ah yeah nuphy makes that stuff. Wireless though! latency
that KB layout is awesome
there is wired mode as well, but ye, good on wooting actually trying to make the board as low as possible even with full sized switches
shortens the sides too for more mouse space.
idk, the board height is same as Lekker so they didn't reduce it. Seems standard height. Maybe even tall.
28.4mm (H) front height with OEM keycap
i dunno about lekker dimensions but 80he is more or less the same as 60he which is not really possible to make lower without removing foam, feet, etc
Flatter 
whats it like for 60he?
or at least that's what i remember from checking design files and thinking about printing a case to make it lower, but then i realized it's not worth it
60HE
also, pretty sure we're talking about front height and not the angle of the board, although in that regard 80he is lower than the rest
Lower is nice for me, makes SA even more fun to type on
1.5 inch is I think back of keyboard to top of esc key. Which is same as Lekker. I think all of them are the same.
80HE
Two and 60HE
I measured my front and it's about 28.4mm as well
Why does the delivery take so long?
4M guys
So many dollars
how u get the role?
and I haven't ordered mine yet
the hub
Link your discord account to the wooting hub
i did
Less time than waiting for the Lekker, lol. Lekker took 1 full year from order to arrival. Had to check my e-mails to confirm lol.
Under the my account page, refresh your rewards
ah ok
There ya go
Thy bro
Welcome to the piss club 🤝
xd
hey just wanted to ask if there are any more renders/photos of pcr cases
i have a hard time choosing between frost and ghost
I've been hesitating in between raw and white for a solid 3 days
the keyboards don't exist and we basically pre-ordered
I think theres some pictures floating around in the chat, mainly for the frost. I wont be able to find em cuz im about to go to work but i think youll end up finding them if you use the search bar for the media tab long enough
@daring narwhal
thanks guys
yo. may i ask how i might get the EU-Kampioen role too?
same batch for me
Access and edit your orders, connect your discord, and manage your Wooting account.
ohhh, i see. thanks!
ye just refresh it there
Possible to add items to my current order?
dont have an account there yet, was about to create it as soon as i got my 80he. buuuut i wouldnt mind shipping updates on discord :p
You need to create an account on the hub using the same email as for your purchases - in order to receive updates.
Not for the 80HE currently. The upgrade system isn't finished due to all the complex addons and options.
You can email us at social@wooting.io
Alright! Will drop an email to the team
guess my payment needs to be processed first before i might get the eu-kampioen role? or does it just take a bit to update on discord?
ordered 2 days ago, how long does this payment method take lol
Hi ! I'm thinking of getting the 80HE module but I'm hesitant about the switches, do gateron jade also have all the advantages of lekkers (I think it's called Hall Effect?). Thanks !!
yup
Jade switches are just 30grams of force I think
they're lighter
but you get free switches as well, so you can choose..
L45 or L60 if you get the Jades
And thockier apparently
Don't forget to mention the limitation of jades.
What are they?
has 0.5mm less travel distance i reckon
Ohh yeah, instead of 4mm, they're like 3mm?
Damn thanks guys
I just got all 3 lol, so I can try em out and see what I like
3.5mm
Although I don’t really count it as a disadvantage nor an advantage
It’s just different travel length. Some will prefer it, some won’t
I wanted the F1 2 3 4 keys to be alligned with QWERTY because I'm a top% MMO player
I just wanna know if the lekkers v2 or jades have less stem wobble
But i think well have to wait until people get the keyboard
they have less wobble than the version 1's
Honestly both are probably already in the realm of perfectly fine stem wobble
Ye ik
when is 80 he expected to ship
Thats true but imma still take the option with a bit less
end of july most likely
I mean that is what my order is set to be delivered
At some point stem wobble isn’t a factor anymore as a decision because if your only goal is stem wobble then buy raptors and stem swap
And 20u‘s are impossible to get currently
Nothing beats those for stem wobble but that’s because they’re literally on the verge of too tight
Na raptors kinda bullshit switch
Ks-20u would be the play but they kinda not findable or out of stock x)
Look up the ks-20u‘s
They are literally not even on gaterons website
And out of stock on the only website where you can find them (mechkeys)
not a deal breaker tbh
I know about them, but I mean what does your statement on raptors even mean
Idk they just have a really bad qc
Pretty cheap lookin
Just a bad vibe
Also from the vids ive seen they are kinda meh
what makes you consider them as "meh"
I got myself the l45 v2 and jades
Gonna see which have less stem wobble
And maybe get some 20u if i can find them
That makes no sense
raptors are bs really, they are eating dust rn
Doesnt have to for you
I just really despise them
But if you like em nothing wrong with that
Is the 80HE wireless as well or?
no wired
I mean if you don’t like the color sure, but your reasoning is a bit weird for choosing a switch
All power to you though, pick what you want I suppose
Exactly👍🏼😂
Weird how it's so expensive then. the Keychron Q1-HE does all that the 80HE does, but is quality build and low latency wireless as well. And it's cheaper than the 80HE.
Because its an actual good product with an even better company behind it
Luckily wooting wont go wireless for now
Keychron's software isn't as good for starters.
?
well i got raptors months ago, and they are literally same as lekkers 60
Plus their HE board was still in funding last I looked
How can you say their software isn't good, they only have a software in beta right now and have not previously had one.
It ships in 2 weeks, lol
Yes, they do.
no they dont
Since when keychron have he keeb
Oh no not somtrick again
What don't they do?
Jesus go buy keychron then
Okay I’m out before somtric goes on another trollfest starting arguments
@brazen iris I haven't decided yet. I just wonder why it's more expensive, when it's cheaper made.
what
Cheaper made???
@midnight iron are you the official troll in this discord or? yikes.
@brazen iris In the way that there are more expensive components in the Q1-HE, such as a quality battery. Not in the matter of material.
dont feed the troll guys. rule number one of the internet
Do you guys recon I should take raw or white?
Up to you. Do you have a white setup? Which do you think meshes the best with what you already have?
dude u literally said just 1 thing and its a battery thats better?? who the hell needs a battery in hall effect keyboard? thats another reason to not get that bs
Sure thing
My guy seems like he has some problems to solve
Gonna head out aswell🤙🏼
That's not what I said. I said, making a quality wireless is more expensive, so why is the 80HE, which does the same thing as the Q1-HE, which is also a full aluminium build, more expensive...
Crazy the fanboyism going on here xD
Yeah😂
Wireless keyboards just imagine🫠
It's also 8k polling vs. 1k
I have a main setup mostly black (peripherals) and my desk/walls are white and I have a second setup almost fully black (not by choice)
no u dont understand a thing probably have keychron on the desk rn and coping
That's true, that is one difference, but that isn't more expensive than a solid battery and wireless transmission though.
My Q1 HE is more expensive than my 80 HE for now ^^.
@lime falcon Are you okay...
ur def not okay
@waxen turret What do you mean? the keyboard is not out yet.
used block. It's super effective!
You already can buy it and it comes out in 2 weeks (Q1 HE)
Crazy how I am getting flamed, for nothing else but asking why the 80HE is more expensive, when the Q1-HE is literally the more expensive product to produce.
Freakin fanboys ftw.
@waxen turret Yes, I know. I have a pre-order, but I am thinking about cancelling it for the 80HE.

Don't feed him. He was here already like a year ago, basically insulted everyone, ranted, demanded refunds then deleted his account and I guess this is his new one
Why not both?
Money lad, I'm not rich, lal
Bargin in like a Karen, screaming at anyone who doesn't share your point of view, is a great start to any conversation.
Sup guys
Hi,I have some questions about 80HE. I wonder if I order two 80HE, how many switch pack I will get. Cause my friend and I both want it.
not my problem 😂
Just order the 80HE. Will be sent on mid July or late July ?
somtrick u seem to be grown ass man
Late July start of August.
Ok. What will get with the founder edition
If you grab the preassembled one, you get L60s preinstalled on the board, and a pack of 45's to try.
If you grab the module, you don't get anything by default - But if you pick a pair of switches that you pay for, you get a free pack of your choice of 45 or 60s
Check the pins
You people got issues, for real.

Difficult to say - It being a pre-production pre-order, means it could be early July...or late August. All depends on how smooth everything goes.
shafie, sno, mansen... ew, just ew. Get that low self-esteem under control. All blocked and reported, bye bye. Pathetic.
womp womp
Bragging right on this discord and an additional Free Switch pack to your already bought Switch pack
XDD😂
are u going to say anything of value or is your contribution as empty as your brain som
You came to a company's server, shat on the product, mocked the customer base, and they're the one's with issues.
I see. Thx guys
Hmm. Interesting.
I love this guy😂
Thats real good entertainment
I think it is more likely to be august or september
Keeps this discord active
Yeah :D
Chill
@lunar dragon u look dumb in that picture btw
it honestly really depends where you live as well. I live in the netherlands, so im not really worried about the date of delivery to be honest
dude ordered wireless he keyboard and is coping smh

Its like sitting in front of the ape enclosure in the zoo
shafie, I know I look good, you really can't hurt me kid. Get that low self-esteem in order. Jesus christ xD
u have no reason to get personal, don't become the person you are arguing with
let them stay stuck (:
https://youtube.com/shorts/W6tDF8WNLOo
Disregard trolling, embrace weekend raves.
If everything goes smoothly guys
Correct👌🏼
Funny how every discord, has these 5-10 people who use most of their time on discord, just becoming this tight little and pathetic troll group. It never fails, literally never fails.
somtrick u were here year ago, did the same thing, left, joined today and ur doing it again
alright probably time for one of the woothelp folks to calm him down a little
u must have a very boring life
Incorrect, you do prove my point though, saying that 🙂 so you people are still here, still being flaming trolls, doing nothing. Pathetic.

Its so funny how his brain sees the complete opposite of whats happening
Ah, the irony. 🙂
XDD😂
The gateron jade are only available on the 80HE or it works on the 60HE aswell ?
Both
it works
They work on any of our keyboards.
somtrick see u next year
But the 8K polling is only on the 80HE ?
Ye

Yeah, it would require a hardware change for it to work on the 60HE
@brazen iris yo 😎
fighting imaginary opponents is a fun pastime for some I guess
shadow boxing
Sup
So lets attempt to take you serious. Why do you think a wireless module is expensive? They are cheap as hell. The battery is relatively cheap to produce in china as well. Also wireless in general is garbage. Keychron is 100% china keyboard and things are cheaper there because they don't pay a liveable wage. The actual design of the wooting is not from china and they have R&D to cover. Their software will be 10x better and no the keychron will not have all the same functionality.
Just noticed you were in here too haha
Don't feed it.
Nooo dont😭
u dont need to talk seriously to this man
Nooooo😂 hes going again
i don't think anyone here is fluent in clown
true tho
🐒
I don't think I need to answer an imaginatory comment. You clearly don't know anything about their production, anyway.. my question was not regarding a 80HE vs Q1-He. It was a simple question to justify the more expensive 80HE.
For where I am now getting flamed by a bunch of insecure losers. Which I don't care about, but it is extremely pathetic. 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OuPX19sVjI
This guy might.
Write a book
wow
Ahh😂
Ofc i got a wooting kb :D
Mansen can't you just kick him?
That would be a mercy.
@brazen iris 😎😎
What did I miss
^^👌🏼

He is the Mod moron
im dying
on no, he's going to rat us to the popo
He is, but thankfully not the only one who decides 🙂
Bro go to ur job and stop talking
I can only repeat what I said previous. Ignore him and rave.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IKo9ovHSvnY
It's Sunday kid.
I'm just go back to keyboard modding
Why is wooting80 delayed?
Yall have fun
Maybe also try going to the police and tell them people like wooting keyboards
Its preorder
Not delayed. It's a preproduction preorder - What some might call a.... group buy or a kickstarter project (except we're absolutely going to make it. Funding isn't a problem)
Losers 🙂 you are actually the biggest loser @buoyant solstice A mod who acts like a troll and support trolls, pathetic.
So? Get some extra bread instead of talking to mostly minors here
👌 
🙂
When I made the purchase, he said that the shipment would be delivered in mid-July and today it has changed to early August
Rtl2 familien im brennpunkt live
Du er grim, ja.
I'm going to guess that what you saw at first was "at warehouse", and the august date is "delivered to you", which is based on a choice of courier (their delivery timeframes are taken into account) as well as a buffer in case there are minor delays.
That being said - We are still in preproduction, so we might experience some unexpected delays there between now and then.
it still shows mid july when ordering 
Late July to Early August is a different of a week and change. 
Aaanyway. I gotta go do some cleanup and go grocery shopping. Here's an old classic for your enjoyment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKTPf4BaHNs
What do I think of this interface
He could, I have however, contacted all mods and the wooting team, as well as saved this whole thing 🙂 I ain't letting you losers get away with this again.
Mansen I have a question Id like to ask when I get on the bus (6 min~)
we're still ~5months away, think i'll probably forget about the order and one day, get confused about why the courier is calling me that i got a delivery
i just can look it
Good morning btw gang
@lime falcon Try some activity or fitness lad, that will help on that low self-esteem way more than sitting on discord 24/7.
And for that exact reason we send out emails, when the time for shipping comes. To remind people that it's coming, and to double check their address.
Then maybe it's going to be delayed by one week, it's not the end of the world
no im fine thanks
When will there be a Chinese agent, I see wooting some are manufactured in China
@lime falcon You VERY clearly are not, but whatever floats your boat xD
xD
Came to say I just ordered mine 
This is my first keyboard, and I want to get it fast
yeah maybe try some of that advice for yourself, would do you good to shut down your machine and get out while there's still some sunlight. seems like you're deprived of something
That was your best? Another random ass loser joining to get his self-esteem up, ew.
All of our products are manufactured in China. As for China based resellers, there are already some over there.
It's an ongoing project to make it easier to B2B customers to place orders and have them be shipped back to China without too many delays.
One week doesn't make that much difference, maybe you can complain if they delay it by a few months but a week, it's fine
If you need it fast, maybe you should be getting a keyboard that is currently in production?
@lime falcon give it a rest man, it's been mildly amusing at first but now it's just sad.
yea
Damn bro you’re even more implied here than most of the « fans » you’re making fun of, try to get some air before talking again (it will help you find a gf eventually ?)
Yea, it sucks when you can't group up and bully someone out of here, must sucks that your kid tactics failed.
Dude dont even type im tired of you
My guy insulting looking like a drug addict💀
Now our side of the time through the time difference to earn prices, there is no official
I don't care, you're a bunch of losers who flame people for nothing, go f yourself you bunch of weaklings 😄
👍🏼👍🏼
mmhmm
I'll take all of you mfs on at once.
Great achievement👌🏼
Sounds like a skill issue to me
Prob.
Congeatulations! What version?
I may be a loser but damn I am happy, what about you?
gj somtrick u can take us all
Same.
ISO nordic - ghost
wtf lol
I guess he has a very stretchy asshole if he can take that much at once
XDDD
Oh I meant what case type and caps and switches but I got the ansi black zinc alloy
"good one". facepalm
facepalm
Bro got me here
Ghost case, then ... I got the L45 for free but it comes with the L60.
I feel like a loser now…
Sorry to hear that.
Hello guys im new here and i ordered the 80he ghost ansi and i cant wait to get it
Very cool, I think thats ny second choice behind black zinc
I’m crying now… you’re such a bully…
W!
What switches ? 
Epic 
bit of a time out mate best to take a break from the internet for an hour
L60
One thing that annoys me are the "bezels". Compared to other keyboards that are more less than half the size, a new case mod down the road will prob fix that tho
he will comeback untamed
The bezels are due to the gasket mounting and angle of the case.
Sure thing
Ghost top tier choice
What profile keycaps are the best for gaming? I like OEM but I cant find many cool looking ones like that. Everything seems to be XDS SA ASA. I feel they may be too high.
too used with design over function mindset i guess 
i like just black or white, but there isnt white unfortunately
just order a full white
only zinc alloy is white
thats a big egg
Will there be more bling we can add?
Wdym?
Question: Has anyone else noticed the white zinc alloy case has a sort of grey tinge to it? Will it look like this in the final product, or will it be more of a pure white?
Is the zinc alloy used for the case safe for heavy daily usage? I’m a little concerned about possibility of traces of lead in the metal after reading about the material online.
I believe the goal is a slightly warm white. Cause white isn't just white. Pure white rarely looks good in practice.
I think it is indeed warm white, Calder said it during the campaign live stream
is it even english if there's no weird green mush
Ok, thankyou! I'm debating between the white or raw zinc alloy case
We're having the same debate
You don't have to decide for good right now. We will be providing more video and photos of the cases, as we get to that point in the campaign. Picking either now is fine - we can help swap it around. 🙂
Lmao I'm not suprised. I think the raw zinc alloy would look great but I'm not sure how it would go with the keycaps
Hey guys, do you think if i change my order to a different colour will the delivery be even later now?
Easy solution! You buy more keycaps
In terms of keycaps I can't really say, I only have one option on wooting and I haven't looked at keycaps because they don't fit in my budget
Do you think there will be a huge difference in sound between the PCR Frost case and the zinc alloy case ?
Ok! I'll probably order one now then knowing that I can change it around if need be. Think I'll probably go for the white 😀
I'm trying to be a bit more financially responsible than that 😅
maybe i missed it, but i cant find any info on what the LED on 80HE really does ?
they light up
great, but i already have lamps in my home
the real big brain move is to get raw and cerakote it in whatever color you want later
raw Kareoke ? 😄
The church of raw cerakote approves
Alright Im back
I just remembered I had to put in my work schedule
Mansen are you still there?
More information to come.
Oh hi, I wanted to ask 2 things in relation between the 60HE and 80HE
Rappy Snappy is coming to all Wooting boards 8 is only 80HE
I know it was the coiled cables abd the 5 LEDs under the space bar for the 80HE
yeah i seen that two, im still lost on what it does lol
Ah okay when people mention two and 60HE vs 80HE my thoughts instant jump for that 
light up in a specific way depending on what profile you picked or something
Hear me out
Question:Is the zinc alloy used for the case safe for heavy daily usage? I’m a little concerned about possibility of traces of lead in the metal after reading about the material online. Sorry to ask again, but would love to go zinc alloy route instead of PCR if all checks out.
Perfectly safe.
It's not raw, raw. It has to be coated to prevent oxydation anyhow.
This was my inquiry, if the ANSI 80hE has 5 LEDs behind the space bar like the 60HE, and if the 80HE can use the stealth coiled cable at 8k and 100% brightness no issues?
Yes to all.
Thank you for reply, I’m going to order it now! I love the raw look, glad it’s not raw raw 😂
It talks to you like kitt from knight rider
I feel spoiled compated to all the other times I bought a keyboard 
You KNOW this is in our future
I thought the keyboard I built 4 years ago was the endgame, here I am
I am honestly surprised no one has turned their Tesla into a wannabe Kitt yet. It has the "AI" and the computer. Just needs minimal LED bar addition to the front grill 😄
that would be sick
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If anyone knows
I spotted this, Alumaze80 when
huge no but there will be one most likely
if my currency rate was unchanged for the last 3 years, I would not have to pay 43% more, that's wild 
never because the alumaze is a tray mount case and the 80he requires a gasket mount
you would need a complete redesign
ah ok that makes sense
I think Im already satisfied with the Zinc Alloy case
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Do the (lekker) switches and stabs come factory lubed?
If you’re worried I think you should take a allergy test just in case. @buoyant solstice unless there’s a toxic test conducted by SGS or any other third party labs. You can’t be 100% sure
yes
Awesome, thanks
1
Number
one
Uno
一
I hold one's breath until early august.
We would see a P65 cancer label if that was the case
Sure. Always be safe - I've passed it on to our team.
Yea maybe if they released what the alloy was and if there was nickel in it which is a pretty big allergen.
Yeah, read 10 Minutes some stuff. Not 100 clear. #🌟│wooting80he message
Metal composition should be irrelevant, if it's coated on top to prevent oxidation.
Can you give me an example of how to use 'rappy snappy'?
It means you bought the 80he in the presale
Calders give an example in the 80HE announcement video. Beyond that - no, not yet
Thank you!
yes
Sort of. But it is a time limited one with some special perks. After that there are still pre-orders.
I’ve also been meaning to ask. What is the lightbar on the board ? Is it functional?
Ty
i think i read before u (wooting team) gonna put more photos of the 80he,Do you know how often more or less?
next wooting keyboard has a knob
Keyboards are becoming way more complex with so much interactions to think about other than pressing keys. Now you need to think about pressure “points” too
so what is there left to do for 80he development from now til we receive it? the product design + features are final right? so just waiting for products to reach warehouse etc.?
Hmmm having second thoughts about that
yes
they might make small changes for mass production though
put me in a coma then
GG you have to wait like 6 months
It's only like 5 and a half months 
time to start waitmaxxing
Or get a keyboard now and don’t think about HE that much. Tbh after playing with HE and custom mechanical with TTC Silver 2 switches … the difference is kind of meh tbh … if the latency is low enough for it not to be a constrain point … I still switch between my wooting and my KBDFans and … yeah. Some placebo effect happens in the initial 5-10 min but after that …
i agree
he is only a game changer for the top 1%
Not too sound like an ass or anything but I am curious about the level you play at in FPS games. Do you play either CS or Valorant so I have something to compare with? Because most people who play at a high level notice a pretty big difference
I mean, the possibilities of setting up the HE switches however you like is a clear advantage whether you like it or not
who actually thinks about "pressure points" though, you set actuation point to whatever you pref and forget it
Just ordered 2 wooting 80HE, lfg
greenfn
You kind of sound like that. Been playing for years … right now I’m still on apex and bf2042. But went through all the other games.
But it’s a very personal experience of course
only game it hall effect made a difference for me in is osu
2? Whos the 2nd one for
I just feel whenever someone makes a statement like that I just want to see what their level is of gaming because it's a noticeable difference between your average casual gamer and the people who play in the top 1000 in games, hence my question.
So yes, I didn't mean to come off as rude but I just want to be understanding of what level we're talking at.
Yeah blank sorry for my reply Ehehe …
But I know what you mean. My assessment is not done just for gut feeling … the wrong thing to compare is HE to other keyboards that have high latency. If you compare low latency keyboards in fps HE is not a game changer. Of course valorant is special due to its pace
my girlfriend
And way of playing if very subtle movements around corners and such
Yeah, I think I will notice a pretty noticeable difference in Valorant which is why I personally got it. That and the fact that I need a new keyboard in general. But thanks for your reply and answers :)
Bros yapping as if the wooting keyboard isn’t the best on the market 
im going from a glorious pro keyboard to the wooting. im hopeful the input latency will be very noticeable
That’s a comment for me ?
Yeah, kind of same here haha
HE/wootility allows for various settings re user qol/convenience apart from just the performance and responsiveness aspects too
it will probably not but you will have a better time with a wooting
latency isnt really a problem for keyboards anymore
Input lag is not something noticeable, things like rapid trigger are
This.
heavily depends on the game
This. Your reaction time is the problem here. Not the overall latency of todays Keebs
Ye latency is not really an issue anymore
adjustable actuation could make it seem like you have lower latency though
but yeah if you use like a 0.2 actuation and low threshold rt for your movement and it still feels the same or too slight to notice vs a fixed actuation switch at 1.5-2mm am not quite sure what conclusions to draw
yeah i mean any input latency, so my thing is minimizing the time from my reaction of pressing the key to win i get the input on my screen and the wooting with the HE switches and low input latency should help
average reaction time of people is like 100ms to 200ms
Low actuation can be an issue too … it’s not always a good thing
People who are thinking in pure reaction time aren't realizing the benefit of rapid trigger honestly
absolutely
But in terms of hardware sure thing wooting is up there
Well yeah with 0.1mm actuation alongside rapid trigger etc the wooting is extremely responsive
if you're using rapid trigger as a reaction crutch then you're not really using it right or your mechanics suck
Rapid trigger is super useful and responsive. But 8000khz is debateable
specifically for valorant, counter strafing or stopping will always be faster on the wooting
Sometimes way more responsive than we are Ehehe
the advantage at least in fps games is your strafe timings are way tighter, letting you more easily do things that require tighter timings, such as deadzoning/jiggling
Considering I play 0.1 actuation with 0.15 rapid trigger (non-continuous, as it’s unpredictable- at least for the game I play) I will say that the difference is literally night and day.
it's very instantly noticable if you don't have rt since if you're used to it your jiggle timings will be wrong
yeah i tried my friends 60HE in the range, and i could left/right strafe and one tap much faster and consistent
Ye rt gives a lot more control.
Compared to ?
compared to my glorious pro keyboard
to any non rapid trigger board
I dunno its not like you go back to a regular mech kb and suddenly your games are unplayable without your precious HE but its def a more "tuned in" user experience running a tailored to game profile
it's very noticable, it's like playing with an extra 20ms ping in that the movements feel delayed
I think optimum did a video on it the delay between rt and non rt is big.
you can adjust to it, but it does usually require me to make concious effort to not shoot as fast when I'm playing at pc cafe due to the slightly slower time to accurate shot after stopping
yeah the jiggle one taps in Valorant are naughty with a Wooting compared to any other board
To the casual gamer it will remain a gimmick and be unnoticeable. For some it’s great, for others not so much.
it's very noticable in that you feel like you're strafing in mud because you keep stopping that split second slower
thats exactly how it felt sno. Mud
I'm pretty sure any level of player will feel it in Valorant
yeah not like you'd have to be a pro to notice that, its quite a stark contrast
If they are in the training range showing the accuracy of the first shot while jiggling
I’m not speaking on just valorant 🗿
Adjustable sensitivity is nice
I think 0.3mm for RT would be perfect
Since I suffer from tremors
w8 its a bug ?
Did you order 3 kb?
Yep I ear you bro
Fair but that's it's best use case 😅 In other games you won't feel it as much because of the accuracy on first shot is different in most games or even that type of mechanic just doesn't exist in 99.9% of other games
every 1000 kills you get rapid trigger probably contributed to like 2
how bout every time you weren't hit by the enemy bc of it
In Valorant? Nah, jiggle peeking and movement to first shot accuracy is every single fight
I would gladly pay 300€ for 0.2% better killrate
ye
Just it's ever so slightly slower on keyboard without rapid trigger
idk i dont play valorant
me either, but would kinda apply to many shooter with hitscan weapons
Doesn't really apply to most shooters
Only really CSGO and Valorant
The mechanic of moving to shooting is different in those 2 games than any other shooter
In other shooters you can run and gun with accuracy, in those you can't
Maybe Rainbow Six Siege too 😅 But I don't play that so don't have much experience on it
i will say rappy snappy sounds broken for osu
does any1 know what the expected delivery is on wooting 80 he
(Late) Summer.
Depends on batch
thanks
R6 is point and click. The only time there is a lack in accuracy is when you are not scoped into your gun.
What if they're in the southern hemisphere? 
Yeah R6’s selling points are its destructive environment and unique operators that require strategy to play with and against. Movement was slowed down a lot over the years to decrease barrier of entry and slow the overall game down. Accuracy is affected by recoil patterns and obviously hip fire. One click headshots regardless of the situation.
Yeah well that's the general difference between CSGO/Valorant and other shooters
You are accurate in those 2 with hip fire from short range or distance
So the jiggle abilities of the Wooting are really powerful in those 2 shooters
Does anyone here know what voltage and current the 60HE is rated for?
any clue on the screw in stabs? do we gotta swap them or are stock gonna be top tier?
Other than Apex for DKS things I don't see much benefit in other shooters apart from slightly more snappy movement
Only thing I think a wooting would make a difference in R6 is probably quick leaning.
Rapid succession of three keys to achieve a quicker peak. But besides that there probably isn’t much.
I don’t know much about R6 movement anymore as I quit playing 4 years ago.
Then I pity them for not knowing how the equator works.
I mean from the clips I've seen the benefit would be extremely limited in terms of movement
The stock ones are really good, no need to swap em out.
Even if you tried, we'd manually fix it later.
Yeah ik, I won’t do it because it would just annoy you

is there any way to order a fully asembled white zinc and the ghost case with the discount that leaves it at 10€?
How do I check the estimated delivery date for my order? I cant find it on my orders page
No, the 10 euro discounted ghost case is purchased alongside a 80he module

Its not that hard to assemble tbh
The 80HE for America is estimated late July or something 🙂
It's an estimate by the way, there could be delays
Thanks ^^
did you order it just now, if so give it like an hour then the order should pop up in your hub
usually
ordered march 14
oh wow its still not in your hub?
does anyone know what the 80he pcb comes with like does it come with the case foam
Same
The module or prebuilt
module
just checked its in the hub thanks! Didnt know about the hub
nice
like for the module does it come with everything except the case and switches right (meaning the foams between the pc switch plate and pcba and the foam for the case, the tape mod preapplied)?
Also do we know why wooting is only selling the raw zinc alloy case for the wooting 80he module
So many questions
The module I'm sure only fits these particular cases so you'll get the foam with either the module or the case, who knows 
the module thing was pretty much explained in one of the videos before campaign started
The raw zinc is only avaialble as a standalone case because Wooting deems so, that is the reason
sorry about that making a big purchase like this requires me to think a lot
thanks alan appreciate the help
It comes with everything that preassembled version has except switches and keycaps, so all foams included
appreciate it!
anyone know where you get the free switch pack from 80he
Basically it's all down to manufacturing
doesn't show up anywhere for me
The manufacturing of pre builts is only done in 2 colours
did you get a module?
ye
okay
for a module its buy one get one free
It comes with everything it needs
so if you dont buy any lekkers or jades you wont get free switches
thats right
ah that makes sense since i have jades already so i didn't buy it from wooting
thanks!
Are you just getting the module?
yeah i want too
this is what i was looking into to buy
Btw does anyone know if "Back-Order" status and second batch means my order got flagged as B2B?
You're in the first batch
Kampioen
Yes and no
I wanted to add stuff and shot an email to cancel the order
and made a new one, which is on "back-order" status and batch EU-Brug
So the batch of the new order is what?
Kinda got this too but both Lekkers instead and got the ''Stealth'' cable and white keycaps already
EU-Brug
You can add easily via hub support
Then it's 2nd batch, bulk order
It didnt let me add a pack of switches that way, hence why I made a new order
Yeah, I guessed so, will message support then for help
You could've just emailed them to add switches rather than cancelling 😅
EU-Kampioen is probably the ''first''?
It's batch 1 yes
I did the same thing yesterday and I'm still on Kampioen somehow
except no back-order status here
They will be going through the thousands of orders starting next week to properly allocate bulk orders to batch 2 and non bulk orders to batch 1
They said its faster to just cancel and make a new one, hence why I did it that way 😄
Only via support contact in hub - no Self service
Ok - Never heard here before 🤔
Eh, for switches I think an email would've been better just to add
I mean... there's an estimated 4 months even before the keyboard is at their warehouse
They can add switches by then
There's no rush
lol
I know, its my fault 😄 thats what I get for being impatient
Just have to wait and see what the ''To be revealed'' stuff is to maybe order more stuff would've got some of the newer ''Take Control'' keycaps but they're for the 60% boards so eh
i would maybe order the knob if its ready in time
Eh there's still a chance your order will be moved to batch 1 and even if it's not I doubt there will be a huge time difference
Yeah will have to wait and see what's coming
Second batch says september, so there is a little of delay. I already shot an email, asking if its possible to unflag it from bulk order status, since its just a one keyboard. So hopefully it will be possible. If not, thats on me, and I should have known better 🙂
I'm sure you'll be fine, be patient as they have tons to go through right now
Yeah and it's the weekend
I want to order it with my credit card but it always refuses to pay
Make sure you have money for the transaction, make sure the card is allowed by your bank to be used internationally.
And of course make sure the information you enter is corry
is the 8k polling rate dependant on the usb c cable or are all usb c cables compatible?
Same limitations as the tachyon thing mostly.
2.0 and above should be enough, but tachyon and max rgb and all that maybe not for every cable
USB 2.0 is 8k
Bad cable, bad time.
Woot cable, woot time
But its best to get a cabke with goid shielding
Gold shielding is a meme.
I got the stealth cable just in case, but their default cable is built for the keyboard at max poll and power
I guess I will use the default cable then
gold shielding? the only semi practical use of gold is on the connector for maybe corrosion protection, but even then how many rusty connectors do you have?
I meant good shielding
Tasty gold
I did a typo
Okay I know lots of people talked about the zinc alloy case multiple times but I still feel a bit 🤷. Of course it’s heavier than alu but I’m worried about long term
what will be in the long term?
Like the condition of the case
like?
I feel like it shouldn’t oxidize or rust right?
should it? o.o
Like I had zinc keycaps once and I had them for years and they started to have spots
Well the case will be coated
Ahh okay

have enough money, info is correct but how do I check if my card is allowed by my bank to be used internationally?
You contact your bank, and ask them why the payment doesn't go through.
oh ok lol, ty
@buoyant solsticemansen, what do u think will there be a difference in sounds between translucant and a regular plastic case?
Or upper the credit limit through your credit card company
maybe they are maxed out
Things should be used so scratches and whatever will always have a chance to appear, i rarely see the 2nd hand value of things because it's been used, there's always things one can resell but that depends on what but rather just give it to a friend in need if they need something and if they still want to pay give a damn good deal
id be curious to see how it holds up in humid areas
How come we cannot manually cancel orders?
I suppose there is a reason lol. I still have my order I want.
are all the features of the 80he out or are we still getting more updates later
Why guy has leather mask
oh dear innocent child
lmfao
doesnt want his hair to get wet
Gachi gif would be better
Really? Innocence 😂
wait, whadda you mean, doesn't your escape key have a leather mask? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059046240903508050/1213054518699368498/IMG_0696.JPG?ex=6606890e&is=65f4140e&hm=8cb545d783add319e42641ccbb6b3f49bba290f6ffb9e6ee48ef882e6049b68d&
It just black guy keycap
oh, you haven't seen Pulp Fiction, nvm

Is it cheaper to get the non assembled version and assemble it yourself ?
Even if I just get the base options
Its cheaper as prebuilt
Okey and it’s free shipping right?
Depends on your location. It's typically only a US and Benelux offer.
Am I the only one checking the "My Orders" page everyday despite the shipping being like 5 months away? 😭
i wish 💸
Dammit I refuse to pay 31 dollars shipping bro🤣
They needa sell this shit at best buy
Shipping to canada is $53 💀
rip
It includes import duties.
It’s 31 for me I’m in Canada lol
Same, it was around 30
True
It’s 31 plus 37 tax
ok its just me then ig lol
Canada is horrid like I’m paying 360 in the end bro
@buoyant solstice did you hear anything about an upcoming numpad? so close to order a numpad from different brand for daily work with 80HE.
you aint
getting 2 boards shipped to NZ for around $55 USD, not too bad since i can split cost with flatmate
I saw 600 in the ceckout page and I said yikes and closed it lmao
LMAO did u want the zinc
I ran the math in my head and I’m like my bank account doesn’t need this negativity
yup lmao
Mansen, why don't you have a Wooting Team role or some sort of role that says you're support? x3 .. Just wondering @buoyant solstice
Does everyone have 4x L45v2s with their order?
Yeah its stupid wanna see how much I paid for everything? i live in canada
everyone does not
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Man as a uni student I feel so bad cuz this is almost worth a class in my sem 😭
imo wooting offers a product that has a competitive advantage over others and that in itself justifies it for me and the wootility UI looks awesome
After everything shipping taxes duty etc $782.23 CAD
Yeah I get that but like at the end of the day I’m like how much more am I gonna have the time to game in my life lol
Thats ok though because I wanted to get this stuff, woukd have been different if it was rent haha
I’m a year away from med school so I’m like is it even worth it atp
Bless living with parents
i mean its not like the keyboard is only meant for gaming lol, it sounds good too from the official sound clip
damn i got two boards for around $732 CAD shipped to NZ 😂 what'd you get
also in the world of keyboards <500 seems to be on the budget end all things considered
I honestly think it sounds great stock. I have a custom built from the module and it sounds like ass.
Yeah but I work on my Mac mostly lol so it has its keyboard
Bro 🤣
Agreed, I only hope the timeline is accurate and we actually see shipments in the summer
I was told the coiled cable was good for the 80HE at max power and polling
Well at least you can sell it at a small loss if you don't see the value in keeping it long term
True actually
biggest thing i'm hoping for is for the switches not to chatter or "double press" on a single actuation
this was the main reason I switched to the wooting 60 as well
with HE switches you basically take away the parts of the switch that causes it when faulty
Yeah that’s what I’m worried about cause even when I have fans or anything my rooms tends to be a bit humid
I'm curious what the raw zinc will look like irl
For me its cheaper to buy the module + zinc white + pcr frost + white keycaps + wrist rest + switches, than buying the prebuilt zinc white + pcr frost + white keycaps + wrist wrest. Is that intentional? The discount for the pcr frost doesn't apply if added separately.
known thing since day 1 - they cant do anything with current shop version (if I have to guess).
ANSI?
ISO

Are you sneaking the extra case in somehow? I can't get it into the cart organically.
not sure if the surface will be that clean on the raw zinc
If you add the zinc alloy case via the accessories area of the store
I just did module + pcr frost, then added zinc alloy after
well nothing new...mansen didnt want to listen since day 1 - for dm, call or something else 🙂
Que?
i tried so often to tell you how you can manipulate the shop
It's not like we've been extremely busy or anything. The shop is -not- my territory.
when raw zinc pictures out?
i know tony and mark and arden....just telling we know 🙂 but do they really. fizz way is only one of 2
Let me see if I understand.
Module, frost, white PBT keycaps, 1switch+1free is 340€
Prebuilt, white zinc, white PBT, is 370€
So identical orders, except the module is in parts. 
The 75% off the Frost doesn't apply if added outside of the module selector.
I see, added 2 modules and took away 1
Looks dope, almost looks like stainless steel lol
That took way too much click back and forth. There is indeed something odd with the configurator. I've passed it on.
Well, I told them - seems not so important
Hopefully this is more of a case that the discount should have applied rather than not. A few people may have overpaid for 2 cases
yeah it's humid in the summer here in canada
I guess people have paid not everything (like me), since I did this on day 1 and paid only 10 for the second one
ooh that looks pretty nice, the color is lighter than I expected
that's not the 80he
it is not intended I guess.
didnt mean to
It’s zinc, zinc is silver in color. Like stainless steel..
ohh ok xD nvm
But I’m sure you knew that lmao
Oh the discount applies actually when adding the Case to the cart 🕵️
soo are there any irl pics of the raw zinc yet or nah?
I don't know how they're going to roll it back after all the payments have gone through.
On the website of wooting
Only one picture
yeah the discount code was the decision maker for me, it brought the price down to my budget perfectly
these are the pictures Calder sent of the surfaces they're currently testing
I think we have to live with the fact that some people have got something at a discount. It certainly wasn't the intention, but giving everyone a discount afterwards can't be the solution either. So classic bad luck. // You got already a discount on your current purchase anyway.
that pic says its a non final render tho
yeah click the link to Calders message I just posted it will look more like that for the raw zinc
That’s the closest we’re gunna get. That’s why I showed a few examples above of what zinc raw typically looks like.
ooh ok just saw that, thx!
I delete my message how to enforce it
But you don't need to do that the case can be added seperately and the discount is applied
Nah I've never seen a zinc case before let alone raw lol
There are two more important questions anyway: do I stay with ghost alongside black zinc or do I dare to use Frost? AND will we finally get a numpad/wootpad soon so that I can continue to work quickly with the 80HE in Excel? 🥹
imo frost would look better with rgb
Yeah zinc isn't used very often the keyboard he linked is a Keychron Q3 and it's aluminum
i think so too actually - ghost has some areas that appear opaque/dark and then again strongly translucent. That tends to cause unrest.
Depends on how it bleeds through, I wish we got some more pics
Are there more pics for how "frosty" frost actually is?
What colour will the standard cable be in the 80HE, the same as in the 60HE?
Different colour
depends on case colour
zincbois rise up 
is the zinc going to be treated with anything for corrosion ?
Zinc is naturally pretty corrosion resistant
they all have a finish
That's why they cover the bottom of boats in a layer of zinc to prevent rusting
Beautiful
Tho I wonder if rgb bleed will be a problem on these translucent cases hm
yeah, I have zinc case....but just for playing around I have bought a PCR aswell..maybe some day I will use it for certain time 🙂
can’t blame you, both look so nice haha
They would do something about it otherwise they wouldnt sell it
The bar has been addressed
Interesting, didn’t even think to ask. What color cable comes base with zinc cases?
Mods?
Yep I saw that but I was more curious about the rgb under key caps
eh it's humid here in the summer, and year round in the tropics
so its something to consider
Guys do you train wrist?
Well I'm guessing these cables from the post Calder did for the raw zinc samples are cables for the zinc
Raw and black
Fair... now im worried
The vertical struts are much darker here. i think this will be better solved with frost.
Yeah, anything specific in mind?
Wouldn't worry about it as I said before zinc is very corrosion resistant
As I said they literally put a thin layer of zinc on iron and steel to prevent corrosion
i havent seen anyone bickering its not a tkl in a week or something
things are going well
over 10k fundraisers
I mean I like this more than a tkl
I will be able to use every button on the 80HE
And it is a bit smaller so it just works haha
Shoukd I just continue with my zinc case or shoukd I also get a PCR ABS case
I got both - zinc will be used most of the time..pcr is just for toying around or aftermarket later
i got the PCR, i like the look of the semi transparent cases
yeah if I had only the choice for a pcr I would have sticked with translucent aswell.
In the wooting hub you can Connect discord
@winter corali was also thinking about getting zinc but its kind of too heavy no? especially for fps games..
Dont people want heavy boards?
Do you rearrange your Placement ?
What are you doing with the keeb?
What’s the difference between the linear 60,45 and gateron jade
60 vs 45 is just spring weight. e.g. more force required to press 60 all way down
I don't know what your private area looks like, but the surcharge is not so gigantic, keyboards are used longer than other hardware and it definitely looks/feels more valuable. But mine always stays in place.
@winter coral yes bro.. when i am surfing the keyboard is just on front of my monitor like usually but for games it has to be like this
i think 2.2kg will be too heavy for moving around so often 🙂
Ah ok, i dont do that. That is PCR for sure
Ah okay Ty
And what’s the function of the color bar lol it seems almost pointless
all fps gamers do that more or less 🙂
I Played cs since Beta- Never done - but anyway 😅
are u watching major now =)? u can see the placement of pro gamers 🙂
What cs
Counter strike
1.0 beta
Cs, cs source, cs global offensive, cs2?
Which one
Answer (1 of 3): It has a little history. Back in the days before gaming was really big, pro tournaments were held in small LAN centres where many players and all their equipment would have to be stuffed into a small area.
To allow for more space between players, gamers would tilt their keyboard...
1999
