🌟│wooting80he

[hidden cliff]

Why did you order the 60he wrist rest

[timber crescent]

that was my question xd

[midnight iron]

he got the 80he sized one in white was well. think he just wanted a 60% one as well

[timber crescent]

he wanted both

[midnight iron]

a wise man

[hidden cliff]

Indeed

[umbral locust]

What's actually different about the lekkers, between 45s and 60s? Is it just the springs?

[buoyant solstice]

Heavier/Lighter spring yeah

[rich bison]

And stem colour

[deft basalt]

Oh while we're at it what's the exact difference between v1 and v2?

[umbral pawn]

Wait, if I buy the HE80 Module, do I have to put it inside the case?

It comes with everything already built no? gaskets, PC plate, etc.. or does it come prebuilt inside the case, I just have to attach switches and keycaps ?

[umbral locust]

You have to put the module in the case yourself

[buoyant solstice]

It comes with everything (except switches and keycaps, gotta add those during checkout)
It is partial self assembly. 🙂

[umbral pawn]

Comes with everything tho right? cable, etc..

[hot holly]

[umbral locust]

yes everything you need

[ruby vale]

Does the 80HE have more tech than the Two? Like I've seen the, what was it... Rappy Tappy or whatever it was called? Would the TwoHE have that as well, or is it just the 80HE?

[buoyant solstice]

8HE has 8khz polling. It has gasket mounted PCB and screw in stabs
Rappy Snappy is for all of our keyboards

[deft basalt]

Just tighter tolerances on the lekker switches?

[ruby vale]

Oh, I see. Will those other qualities be put on the 60 and Two as well at some point?

[verbal solar]

wherres the wooting_60he channel

[deft basalt]

Probably after some major reversion

[buoyant solstice]

Perhaps. No plans right now.

[deft basalt]

#💬│general

[ruby vale]

Darn. Oh well.

[hollow sigil]

Yep

[jade widget]

Did you call it rappy snappy so other manufacturers would have to get creative with the naming of their versions?

[hollow sigil]

Cuz I need one for my 60he also 🙂 so it was a chance to get them both in the same one

[steep meteor]

dayum over 3 million euro raised in less than 24 hours

[timber crescent]

that seems to be a dumb question but when buying the module version does it come with screws??

[deft basalt]

Should

[ruby vale]

I'd give a very 99% yes.

It'd be like ordering a dresser assemble and not getting screws.

[timber crescent]

true

thanks

[deft basalt]

Waiting on poppy toppy or something

[hidden cliff]

damn you have them both

[hollow sigil]

OFC !

[umbral locust]

Damn, almost $600 bucks when you factor in shipping and duties if you want the jades and zinc.

[timber crescent]

just buyed the module but i don't see the order in the my order section is that normaL?

[umbral locust]

it takes a second to update

[timber crescent]

it's been like 10 mins

[umbral locust]

i didn't mean literally, i just remember for me it didn't refresh quickly but next day it was there.

[timber crescent]

oh aight and for the name on the page when is it gonna happen?

[umbral locust]

no clue, they said details tba soon

[timber crescent]

aight thanks !

[heavy flax]

yikes

[umbral locust]

exactly what i said when i got to checkout lmao

[heavy flax]

wait whered you get 600 from

mines is free shipping, do they only do it for usa

[umbral locust]

just america

[umbral pawn]

It's like 645 USD for me, for 2 keyboards, and 2 Jades lol

[umbral locust]

I'm in canada

[heavy flax]

what do you need 2 keyboards for

[umbral locust]

one for each hand

[heavy flax]

[umbral pawn]

One for me, one for gf

[heavy flax]

lol at that point dont buy a wooting

[umbral pawn]

I just need Calderrrrr D:

He's ONLINEEE AAAAAA

[heavy flax]

no keyboard should cost more than 500 dollars

[midnight iron]

you might not want to look into what some customs cost

[heavy flax]

ive heard of them and thats why i said ‘should’

whoever buys those boards just bleeds money

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-thats-like-your-opinion-man-gif-15076479

[violet garnet]

Lmao

[midnight iron]

it's a lot of middle aged folks with higher 'fun' money spending

[heavy flax]

and youre just rich lol

[buoyant solstice]

Hah...no

Let people enjoy their hobbies. If someone wants to spend more on a metal case, that doesn't in any way prevent you from picking a plastic case.

[mortal tree]

Will the zinc alloy cases be available separately in future?

[buoyant solstice]

Sure.

[heavy flax]

are we soley targeting enthusiasts or is it gamers wanting something pretty nice

[buoyant solstice]

Merging them both.

[jade widget]

compared to my friends who have modified cars as a hobby this ones pretty cheap

[mortal tree]

Sweet I'm sticking with ghost plastic for now though 💪👍

[violet garnet]

@buoyant solstice can I get a 2.5% discount since I'm paying for 2.5% less keyboard than a 80%

[buoyant solstice]

[primal bear]

Why do people join this discord just to complain about folk buying a keyboard 🤣🤣

[heavy flax]

so we have people who spend the money because its a hobby and others because thats the only nice case option

[buoyant solstice]

You seem to be mixing opinios on case preferences with the hard, objective truth that material and labour has costs. A metal case is not free.

[violet garnet]

The metal case is tempting tho

[heavy flax]

not my point but okay

[umbral pawn]

nah

The tech, assembly, production, quality, etc, behind all of this keyboard is worth its price... $200, $300.. It's a fair amount.

[heavy flax]

youre buying two keyboards 600 isnt crazy

[midnight iron]

yeah realistically $300 isn't all that much for working adult to spend on their hobbies/things they enjoy. It's not cheap but it's not super high either - some will spend that much just eating out in a week

[heavy flax]

its that one guy whos spending 600 for the whole board with probably no keycaps

[umbral pawn]

Sure? I can afford 10 if I want to lol.. it doesn't matter though.

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/let-people-enjoy-it-bro-kanel-joseph-let-the-people-have-some-fun-dont-kill-the-vibe-dont-be-a-party-pooper-gif-27215812

An 80HE starts at 220€
Not 600

And that's with a lot of enthusiast niceties that you won't find on gaming keyboards.

[midnight iron]

he's from canada. Aka exchange rate is a thing, and as mansen said nothing wrong with it if he wants to spend the money and can afford it

[violet garnet]

Considering the price of modern PC hardware, your prices don't seem too bad

[eager sundial]

this

[dim sierra]

[eager sundial]

People spend that on a night out lmao

[heavy flax]

jeez if youre an adult youre most likely not a pro that could make use of the hardware

[deft basalt]

300 on a date sounds nice

[deft basalt]

What, most pros are adults???

[heavy flax]

nvm im just fortnite coded huh

[midnight iron]

i mean - by that logic no one should buy anything but a microsoft explorer mice and keyboard set since almost none of us are pros

[buoyant solstice]

I assume you're driving in a 40 year old car. Because given your logic here, it has wheels - it does the job. Buying a fancy new car is only for pros.

[jade widget]

most pros just use whatever free gear they get from sponsors because most of them don't make "great" money

[deft basalt]

They get paid to use the gear so it goes two fold

[eager sundial]

like 90% of the Val scene are on a 60he at this point tho

[heavy flax]

oh thats fair

[tame bane]

As keyboard enthusiast myself, I welcome Wooting giving me this option. From my perspective £340 what I paid is a great price for a full keyboard and metal case. I have keyboards that cost more than that without the switches and keycaps

[heady agate]

so... did we find out if the "raw" zinc case has any sort of clear coating or something?

[deft basalt]

I think raw means raw

[midnight iron]

calder said it would have an anti oxidization coat of some sort

[umbral pawn]

It's just raw zinc color, grayish

[heavy flax]

i just dont think the wooting is too enticing for what i want but thats okay

[deft basalt]

Everyone has different use cases

[eager sundial]

I’m buying it to see if I like it

[deft basalt]

Ah damn its not actual raw, shame

[umbral pawn]

That's fine

[midnight iron]

yeah it's not raw raw like custom keyboard raw

[deft basalt]

Was going to coat it myself if I ever got the money

[heady agate]

that's exactly what I was trying to determine as zinc oxidizes pretty nasty iirc

[heavy flax]

what even is zinc alloy

[midnight iron]

i'm coating it myself anyway

just means you'll have to prep it before coating

[buoyant solstice]

It means it's an alloy - a mixture of several metals, Zinc being the main one.

[kindred dew]

wheeh

[uncut oriole]

Just preordered this keyboard, really excited as this is my first "serious" keyboard

[buoyant solstice]

Most metals are not great when pure. So you mix together small amounts of other ones to make it better.

[heavy flax]

why did you guys opt for that

[buoyant solstice]

I don't know the exact recipe.

[heady agate]

DUCK

[buoyant solstice]

Aluminium is also a mix of metals.

[deft basalt]

Better acoustics, durability, etc

[heady agate]

what happened to you?

[heavy flax]

compared to alu?

[deft basalt]

Oh you mean zinc vs alu, probably acoustic reasons

[heavy flax]

oh

[jade widget]

my guess is it's ZAMAK which is a mix of aluminum, magnesium, copper, and zinc. which is used in lots of die casts applications

[buoyant solstice]

Goodness me. That counter just keeps going and going 😄

[simple saffron]

lol

[deft basalt]

Wasn't it 8000?

[buoyant solstice]

We're at over 10k preorders already.

[heavy flax]

does wooting do refunds

[deft basalt]

I mean the over 9000 meme

I swear it was 8000 in the jp dub

[umbral pawn]

lol I really need Calder man.. x.x

[buoyant solstice]

Ahhh... that was a translation error way back in the day. 😄

[deft basalt]

Guess it stuck

[jade widget]

from some google searching "Zinc and aluminum have distinct characteristics that make them suitable for different applications. Zinc offers advantages such as high density, corrosion resistance, and low melting point, while aluminum provides lightweight, high strength, and superior thermal conductivity. Understanding these differences allows for informed material selection in various industries and projects."

[violet garnet]

yeah but its a zinc alloy so some properties are added or removed with the other metals in it

[heavy flax]

so basically theres only one advantage for zinc in the use of a keyboard

[fresh nimbus]

It’s mixed.. that’s an alloy

[jade widget]

for reference this is talking about both zinc and aluminium alloys

[fresh nimbus]

It’s not zinc on the left side and remaining metals on the right side

[violet garnet]

I know what an alloy is

[deft basalt]

It also affect acoustics but most people aren't worrying about that

[fresh nimbus]

I mean you could try and get it in grade 5 titanium if you want to ball

[deft basalt]

Its only us keyboard nerds

[buoyant solstice]

we all thocc down here...

[arctic flume]

Is there any performance increase between 60he and 80he?

[dark saddle]

Does it say whether prebuilds ship earlier or later than modules?

[deft basalt]

Very minimal

[buoyant solstice]

They shouldn't, no.

[buoyant solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz9pTOLbeos
Go watch the video. 🙂

[upbeat salmon]

moren than 10k founders after one day. Wow.
i think for the 1k founders for the lekker edition it takes 3 month or so.

[arctic flume]

I ordered 60he and it's shipping should i cancel and get 80

[fresh nimbus]

I’m on the fence on zinc or the plastic version tbh

[violet garnet]

just realised that's 10,000 peoples names listed on the wooting website

[dark saddle]

Many people are willing to wait many months. The question is: how many will give up?

[buoyant solstice]

You can genuinely spend five minutes watching the video I just shared you before making up your mind 😄

[deft basalt]

Do you care for the premium feel?

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-text-anime-atatürk-türk-gif-20655969

[umbral pawn]

If it's shipping... you can't cancel, you can "return" tho

[dark saddle]

Exactly! Where can I find the list of supporters from previous projects on the website?

[violet garnet]

that is literally what it'll like lmao

[buoyant solstice]

You can't. The 60HE campaign names are all on the keyboard boxes.

[dark saddle]

aaaah, oke

[arctic flume]

Okay i will do so

[jade widget]

well im still waiting for the xm2w and pre-orders for that mouse went up 2 years ago

[fresh nimbus]

well yes, but no - because the zinc plate is 2.1kg or so, and my current 60he is relatively heavy imo at like what 700g

[cinder jolt]

Not me personally. I always wanted tenkeyless wooting since I first tasted the 60HE, then returned it for Two HE realising it's not that same feel that literally feels good to type on and play on, they nailed how a premium keyboard should sound feel and perform with the Wooting 60HE, but dang it I wanted that row of function keys F1-F12 for some games I play, and thank christ we are getting it all in the 80HE a few months from now 🥳

[deft basalt]

Yea most metal keyboards could kill someone

[fresh nimbus]

but with the travel case included, the zinc back is only 70€, but not sure if i'll like the extra weight (my mousepads are signed on the bottom and dragging them with a 2kg heavy keyboard will wipe markers out fast, even if on accident)

[dark saddle]

and when do i get to choose whether it's my name or nickname? do you just take data from my profile?

[deft basalt]

They'll send email about it

[midnight iron]

get a plastic case for getting signatures

[arctic ice]

Is it almost 2,1kg for real? Goddamn im gonna do some damage, will use it as a hammer aswell, to get my moneys worth

[fresh nimbus]

yeah it's mad

[arctic ice]

Hell yea

[deft basalt]

That's the weight of a desert eagle for my fellow Americans

[dark saddle]

I have the same, 60 is just not for me, I get tired without F, delete etc.

[midnight iron]

That’s what I use my original 60he case for

[cinder jolt]

Love the 60HE to death if I had to nerdgasm BUT yeah like you said, need those essential keys for some games etc and it's perfection

[fresh nimbus]

oh that's awesome, but i mean like my mousepads get signed from the bat

[deft basalt]

Sheesh

[fresh nimbus]

like that

[midnight iron]

ah

[dark saddle]

true, I tried the Mod Tap function, but it's not the same and sometimes caused problems when typing

[toxic portal]

I would like to buy 15 Wooting 80HE, but the delivery method is undecided, for unknown reasons, we can't confirm the delivery option, what should I do.

[molten arch]

Isnt the ammount you can buy limited?

[molten arch]

Its probably too heavy as well

[jade widget]

there's a weight limit I believe

[molten arch]

Still got no yellow name.. 😦

[midnight iron]

yeah 15 wooting 80he is definitely above the weight limit calder set for china lol

[dark saddle]

but 5 months, I can't take it, it will destroy me

[deft basalt]

Seperate orders time

[jade widget]

yeah think he set it to 10kg?

[midnight iron]

if he orders 3 or more boards he'd get bumped to batch 2 anyway. Didn't they say something about b2b customers needing to contact wooting directly for large orders

[jade widget]

yeah

[buoyant solstice]

Please don't ask the same question in multiple channels. Already answered here 🙂
#💬│general message

[umbral pawn]

dayum

[midnight iron]

did calder or one of the staff manage to fix your israel shipping issue yet?

[umbral pawn]

nope

[midnight iron]

rip, must be busy

[umbral pawn]

I DM'd him now, tagged him here, and emailed.

Im soon going to call em up XD

[tropic galleon]

the 80 he just launching means we will not have any new product for atleast 1 year right ?

[umbral pawn]

kidding 👀

I just want to order lol

[buoyant solstice]

What kind of issue? No courier option offered?

[arctic ice]

Do b2b customers get a discount? If i only order 1 or mayby 2 for my company💀🤣

[tropic galleon]

was wondering the same, at least vat maybe ?

[buoyant solstice]

Only if you can pull your VAT back from your tax authorities. We don't do B2B orders. It'll be part of the checkout, but we can help you with an invoice that includes your VAT number.

[umbral pawn]

2 Issues.

1. Will not let me get 2 Keyboards, 2 Wrist rests, 2 Jade switches, 2 Free L45s, etc..

2. yes, I'm from Israel, and if I get 1 Keyboard, with the wrist rest, free L45, I only get PostNL which is slow af, if the keeb gets shipped to me I'll get it in 30-60 days (or worse it gets lost.. cuz thats how it is XD)
   I need UPS/Fedex/DHL options..

I know it's heavy... lol, Im asking if it's possible XD

[arctic ice]

Yea i can write it off as ”office mandatory supplies” actually i get the remaining sum as tax reduction overall

[buoyant solstice]

So you DO get options. So it's not a weight issue.
Please shoot us an email at [e-mail] and we'll have to investigate if we can tweak UPS and FedEx to allow for it.

[umbral pawn]

I dont get options
It shows a red flag

[deft basalt]

Issue 1 is likely due to weight

[past mural]

Guys, I'm living in the EU, and I'm wondering why the ANSI layout costs 20 euros more compared to ISO?

[buoyant solstice]

Please don't ask the same question in several channels. What product?

[buoyant solstice]

You'll still have to shoot us an email then. 🙂

[umbral pawn]

Did ><

[buoyant solstice]

We'll look into it asap. We've received a week's worth of emails in the last 24 hours 😄

[deft basalt]

If I'm understanding correctly issue 1 is caused by weight but issue 2 can likely be solved with support

[umbral pawn]

both can be solved Im sure.. it's just gonna be a big box lol

[deft basalt]

Is it over 10kg?

[umbral pawn]

I have no idea

[winged pelican]

because freedom 🦅

[midnight iron]

issue 2 might end up solved when they fix issue 1, he might not be seeing a fedex/ups option like some countries were having at launch earlier until it's enabled properly

[umbral pawn]

I just dont want to pay extra customs, taxes, shipping...

[devout delta]

no keycap for non-ainsi 80he

[umbral pawn]

I want it all in 1 shipment.. XD

[midnight iron]

what do you mean? They offer the layouts

[devout delta]

i said keycap.

[umbral pawn]

they offer the Keycap layouts.

[midnight iron]

don't they offer the standard wooting iso keycaps?

[fresh nimbus]

you get standard keycaps + the set you order, no?

[jade widget]

can confirm iso keycaps are available

[buoyant solstice]

ANSI boards are preinstalled with black PBT keycaps. I am not sure what you mean by no love or not available

[devout delta]

I said non ainsi get no love.

[buoyant solstice]

I see. Why do you say that though?

[buoyant solstice]

French or Spanish I assume?

We currently do not offer either language in PBT - Because there simply isn't enough of a market for them, compared to the upfront costs of us investing in new moulds for PBT keycaps for them. ABS is much, much cheaper to invest in and manufacture.

[devout delta]

Fair enough, thank for the explanation. May give a shot at AINSI/ISO USA-UK layout then

[jade widget]

either that or you could buy aftermarket keycaps

[buoyant solstice]

If you DO need PBT keycaps for either language, I believe that Corsair has a PBT line of keycaps that cover a lot of languages. The design is a bit different though.

[winged pelican]

How much extra PE foam can I fit in between the PCB and case for the 80HE? does it matter there's like 20mm extra PE foam squished in?

[devout delta]

Interesting, taking note

[molten arch]

Why u already wanna squish more in there? The product isnt even out yet..

[winged pelican]

for maximum THOCC

[molten arch]

Also sometimes less is more

[winged pelican]

Also sometimes more is more

[midnight iron]

you might get worse thocc sound by trying to compress the foam too much

[icy cosmos]

its just about right

[molten arch]

If u put too much foam, it will filter the thocc instead..

[midnight iron]

hrm how many keys do I need to lose to turn my 80he into a true 75%. Three might be too many

[fresh nimbus]

i think my 60he feels relatively heavy, i can't imagine tripling the weight

it's heavy enough not to move around or slide in general

[icy cosmos]

I think you need to put on a HiFi hat to really understand any reason for this level of quality.

[silk hedge]

if the knob goes where that big ass button is on the 80he it will pretty much be a 70% right?

[silk hedge]

do u even lift brah?

[molten arch]

Heavier = less noise, due to the ammount of energy needed to set the mass into vibration mode

[timber crescent]

what if we want nice sound

[fresh nimbus]

i suppose so

[midnight iron]

I think technically you'd be like a 73 or 74% if you turned the 4 key into 1 big key

[fresh nimbus]

bro it's a keyboard not a halter

[molten arch]

Whatever you consider nice.. Its personal preference what sounds nice and what not

[midnight iron]

i have a 2 block key too though so I could do a 76% as well lol

[timber crescent]

I want it perfectly balanced not too loud and not too less

[molten arch]

You gotta experiment

Switches, keycaps, plates

[timber crescent]

The plate coming in the module is polycarbonate right ?

[molten arch]

Sound is a very complex thing

[molten arch]

Yes

[winged pelican]

I want it as quiet as possible - I'm not sure if default settings are best for this so I know I will have to add extra foam and tape... and lube

[molten arch]

As explained above, too much foam may give ya more clack and less thocc

Ya need to hit the right ammount of foam

[winged pelican]

I think I should fill up the case completely with PE foam and foam spray

that should do the trick

(I'm joking btw - but I'm 100% confident I will still need to add more foam)

[molten arch]

You tried cardboard yet?

[timber crescent]

But thocc is good

[molten arch]

Ik, i like thocc

[timber crescent]

Thocc is the best thing that can have a keyboard

[verbal solar]

im buying the 80he

[molten arch]

Im actively trying to silence my 60HE

[timber crescent]

Oh well depend on the person

[timber crescent]

Like I said I want to have a creamy loud sound but not too loud like a blue cherry mx switch

[verbal solar]

whats the diffrence between the bpt keycaps and abs keycaps?

[timber crescent]

Pbt more durable

[molten arch]

The feel, sound and wear

[verbal solar]

so wich one is better

[timber crescent]

pbt

[verbal solar]

ok

[molten arch]

Personal preference, i prefer PBT, but some like ABS more

[timber crescent]

I preordered the frost case I hope it’s gonna look great

[molten arch]

I went black metal

Less noise

[timber crescent]

I wanted white zinc but 300 for a keyboard is too much for me

[thorny void]

White Metal is the way

[verbal solar]

do i get the case for free if i order the wooting 80he for 300€

[molten arch]

The raw one looked better than white

[molten arch]

If i pay 3 digits for an kb i go all out

[thorny void]

That a lie, the ministry of Truth tells otherwise

[verbal solar]

do i get a case free? or do i have to buy it?

[thorny void]

Travel Case is included in the zink alloy version

[molten arch]

Black or raw is supperrior ;p

[thorny void]

I am wondering, I ordered basically the same but prebuild in white and I payed exactly the same. Should the prebuild version not be cheaper?

[verbal solar]

why are you buying it like that? just buy the build one?

[molten arch]

I got coupons as you can see

[molten arch]

Was going for the raw, but switched last second

[timber crescent]

Dayum

[timber crescent]

I now but I already spend 3k this month for a new setup I don’t have money now

[proper pine]

how do you only have 77.5% :D?

[timber crescent]

The real question is how he get a discount

[thorny void]

Dunno

[molten arch]

I spend way too much money as well the few past weeks xD

[thorny void]

I just ordered, but it was 10 more as I had expected

[fresh nimbus]

Not so smart posting that in public channel i suppose 😂

Now i want a discount too

[remote moss]

[thorny void]

Dit you pay even more?

[timber crescent]

Ye but now I live in survival mode and it’s hard

[ebon sluice]

time to load up!

[molten arch]

You get them when u are a good customer 😉

[opaque dagger]

How did u managed to get the module only for the free switches pack? Mine doesnt show up

[vapid river]

o

[fresh nimbus]

Get better at budgeting ^^

[buoyant solstice]

You have to buy a set of switches to get a free set of switches.

[opaque dagger]

I see so it’s one for one

[upbeat berry]

its not 1 set of free switches is buy 1 set and get one free

[timber crescent]

I saved for 3 month for this projet

it’s only 15days of torture and then money comeback

[thorny void]

I still don't really get why I had to pay extra for the key caps when I ordered prebuild version

[buoyant solstice]

ANSI?

[thorny void]

Iso ger

[buoyant solstice]

Because you are purchasing a keyboard with no keycaps. So you add german ones.

[molten arch]

Yep

[icy cosmos]

I know the raw will look really cool. but without a protective layer it will be a hassle to maintain a pristine look. Also, why can´t you buy more case colors? you should be able to ship everything at a later date if it´s impossible to manage in the first shipment.

[molten arch]

Had to do it aswell

[thorny void]

Ah okay, thanks for clear that out for me

[chrome badge]

77.5% gang 🙏

[calm wyvern]

Dang that's a lot of money raised

[midnight iron]

it does have a protective layer for oxidizing

[molten arch]

Who said im not gonna buy it later? Also clear coating

[weary wren]

i ordered it like 20 hours ago why hasn’t it shipped yet

[thorny void]

Are you prime member?

[weary wren]

i think so unless it lapsed

[upbeat berry]

its a preorder. we deliver sometime in q2/q3 this year. current estimates are july/august

[weary wren]

Ya i was just joking sorry.

[opaque dagger]

Why do i see others order has no extra switches pack but still get to have the free switches pack without the prebuilt,

Is it bug?

[buoyant solstice]

The Prebuilt has a set of L60s preinstalled - That is a purchase of switches. So you get the L45 pack for free.
Modules have NO switches preinstalled - so to get a free pack of Lekker switches, you need to add a set of switches yourself. Buy one, get one.

[midnight iron]

we explained this to you earlier. They're removing their paid switch pack and bugging out the system to keep the free pack in cart - their orders will get their free pack removed later when staff fixes their order

[weary wren]

it was a bug some people ordered 1k free switches

[sage reef]

what's the max amount you can order?

[buoyant solstice]

Typically only a single keyboard or two. Weight limits enforced by couriers.

[sage reef]

i can order like 5 with $30 shipping (plastic)

[weary wren]

Why are the jades so much more money when both are made by gateron? Are they that much better?

[buoyant solstice]

Sure. Zinc cases are 2100g by themselves.

[buoyant solstice]

You'll have to ask Gateron about their pricing strategies. 😄

[fresh nimbus]

Lol how to get blacklisted in 2 ez steps

[weary wren]

i kinda wished i ordered one set of the jade to try them

[midnight iron]

jades are sold at the normal price and lekkers are sold are the discounted combo price basically

[sage reef]

I think you should have set max to be 2 tho? because even max 5 is good for scalpers
max 2 per account (but you can order without account I guess)

[midnight iron]

although if you were planning to try jades anyway this is cheapest option to try them since you're essentially paying $45 for the jades on top of the pack of lekker v2

[sage reef]

scalpers will ofc find a way, but at least making it more difficult

[weary wren]

i put the gateron g pro v3 in my wife’s keyboard and they are great maybe i would like the jade.

[haughty robin]

How are the jades anyway?

What kind of switch are they?

[weary wren]

magnetic linear

[haughty robin]

So how are they different from lekker45 or 60?

[sage reef]

how many ordered like 2 or 3, and intend to make profit on them. so common people are functioning as scalpers too, because of volume.

[high whale]

Talking about Rappy Snappy , will we be able to set our preferred SODC resolution in wootility?

[haughty robin]

Scalping is lame 🙄

But whatever. At least I got mine

[fresh nimbus]

this tbh, fuck scalpers

[midnight iron]

I'm super interested to try out rappy snappy to see if it makes counter strafing even more consistent with timing. I know some fps folks already strafed like this back in CS

[deft basalt]

Solid bottom out

[haughty robin]

I’m actually not even sure what that means… I know what bottoming out is, but what is solid?

[deft basalt]

Normal HE have a hollow bottom

Jades have a solid bottom like normal switches

[haughty robin]

Is that so? I guess I’d need a side by side. Because if I didn’t know what solid meant, then I also don’t know what hollow means

[high whale]

Can I configure 80HE to use 'last input controlled priority' SODC resolution in wootility?

[opaque dagger]

Raw matches well with black or white keycaps?

[buoyant solstice]

THAT is an excellent question, which you'll have to wait for Rappy Snappy details to have answered.

[deft basalt]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/JlFTJNutAoeHeqpSQA6GmoaJ6MTP0C9N_USVjoeljoE/https/assets-global.website-files.com/61603672d19aa0d08107f39c/65f1f46ec5c4a030fc539fd7_JAde-switche-open.png

Wait let me circle it for you hold up

[haughty robin]

But like… does it feel any different?

[haughty robin]

Bottom out is just what… more up?

[midnight iron]

the circle started off so well

then bad things happened at the end of it's journey

[opaque dagger]

Would this keycaps match well on the zinc raw?

[deft basalt]

Jades have a solid bottom whereas most other HEs are hollow bottoms

[ebon spoke]

👀

[deft basalt]

My hand slipped and I didn't feel like fixing it

[deft basalt]

Like I don't know how else I can explain it

Hole vs no hole

[haughty robin]

I’m gonna watch dune (opening night in japan). I’ll figure out what the crap that means later. I can’t even process how it changes the feel, actuation, or anything

[midnight iron]

i hope it's in imax

dune is worth imax

[haughty robin]

Fo sho

[deft basalt]

Acutation is a 30cf but feel is like hitting air vs smth solid

[fresh nimbus]

But the normal switches would bottom out on the top of the keycap(internally).. and this caps out in the bottom? I don’t get it either

[haughty robin]

Kinda makes more sense I think. More spongy vs more solid?

[carmine viper]

Dune is such a good movie ngl

[deft basalt]

Yea

[haughty robin]

As an avid bottom outer I would probably hate the jades

[fresh nimbus]

Would be nice if wooting has those switch feeltesting kits over buying a 70 pack of €60 to try one switch

Minimum lekker bag; 12.. gateron jade minimum; 70 😅

and the specifications look very different aswell, not sure why?

[opaque dagger]

Anything more else worth adding?

[flint junco]

maybe add a coffee

[deft basalt]

Yea its kinda hard to explain unless you tried a normal switch and a HE switch

[opaque dagger]

Will the module comes with foam all that for installation?

[fresh nimbus]

would be nice if these look somewhat uniform* instead of leaving out half the info on the one

[alpine lichen]

wrist rest maybe

and cable

[opaque dagger]

I have the wrist rest from boog75 already

Cable i will be using the stock one

[buoyant solstice]

Module has everything the preassembled one has. Except for switches and keycaps.

[opaque dagger]

Okay great!

[pastel hare]

What keyboard you use currently Mansen

[buoyant solstice]

I've been using a 60HE since they came out pretty much.
https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1153678744985280583

[opaque dagger]

Any promo code other then discord discount?

[clear swallow]

maybe get one your board with L60’s and your free pack as the L45’s, means you can change if u dont like etc.

[buoyant solstice]

There are no promo codes as such. Our discounts are all tied to combinations of items in checkout, or ones automatically added due to previous purchases.

[opaque dagger]

Because my current 60HE have the jade switches, and the prebuilt one are well kept on a container so it’s extra now.

[pastel hare]

that looks wonderful. I see you typing in here like crazy. Had to ask

[opaque dagger]

What do you think?

[clear swallow]

Anyone know if aftermarket cables cause any issues?

[deft basalt]

Oh I should probably restore my old account

[buoyant solstice]

Oh yes. This poor keyboard gets at least seven hours of typing a day 😄

[idle depot]

No issues

[pseudo parrot]

Yes they can, with high brightness and tachyon enabled in particular

[buoyant solstice]

No more than existing issues. Our stock cable and coiled cables are designed to work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ojU_8ASVE

[pastel hare]

[deft basalt]

Lost my old email so I've been roleless

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-fast-gif-25577869

[deft basalt]

Do you even get paid to do this?

[pastel hare]

Obviously sir lol

[buoyant solstice]

Considering I work for Wooting as customer support, yes

[pastel hare]

😆

[deft basalt]

Madame but yea just wanted to be sure

[pastel hare]

What switches do you prefer ?

[pastel hare]

Apologies madame my mistake

[deft basalt]

Np

[buoyant solstice]

Handlubed L60s are the best I've tried so far. Swapped over to L45s when the module released to try them out. They're a bit too light for my tastes. More typos 😄

[violet garnet]

how would white base black keycaps look?

[deft basalt]

Tried the jades or raptors?

[floral delta]

T

[buoyant solstice]

Can't say that I have.

[violet garnet]

💀

[opaque dagger]

This is the raw with black keycaps?

[floral delta]

A

[violet garnet]

yeah

[weary wren]

i may have missed this, but it said july when i ordered. i was not really expecting it until august or sept because of the changes, is july accurate?

[opaque dagger]

Which colorways u guys doing?

[pastel hare]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-harper-house-chin-scratch-hmmm-okay-gif-26193288

[worthy wigeon]

Full white

[buoyant solstice]

No such thing as "accurate" when you're dealing with a pre-order on products not yet manufactured, months out.

We -hope- to have them ready by roughly August overall. Whether it falls a little early or late depends on any unforseen delays.

[worthy wigeon]

white zinc + white wrist = goated

[floral delta]

Always full white

[worthy wigeon]

Ah something to mention i couldn't get the 80 wrist rest from the wrist rests products. It only appeared the full wrist, a TKL version and the 60 version...

[buoyant solstice]

It has its own product page currently.

https://wooting.io/product/wooting-wrist-rest-80he

[worthy wigeon]

Yeah i mean i add it as an accesory... But it was worth to notice. I went with the preassembled version and added jades as an extra and the wrist rest and a lube kit 😅

Just take all my money

[arctic ice]

That looks like black on white

[buoyant solstice]

It should appear as a suggested addon after the first page of the checkout. 🙂

[winter coral]

I'm still undecided whether I should leave one 45 and one 60 in the order. I don't have an HE keyboard yet and have been happy with MX red silent for years.

[vivid shuttle]

Hey Guys. Wooting 80HE Zinc Alloy. Does it comes with L60 and they are pre lubed? Or you have to handlube them? Thank you.

[worthy wigeon]

They are prelubed

[violet garnet]

it comes prelubed

[buoyant solstice]

Just checked. It does indeed appear 😄

[worthy wigeon]

From factory but as always hand lubing is best

[opaque dagger]

The 60he switches are v1?

[vivid shuttle]

So I don't have to worry of buying any additional lube kits etc?

[buoyant solstice]

All 80HE Lekker switches are V2.

[worthy wigeon]

Yeah it appears as an accesory. However it doesn't appear in the wrist rest page. In fact the TKL version may confuse someone...

[opaque dagger]

Oh then i need to try out the l60v2

They are compatible with other HE boards right?

[vivid shuttle]

Sorry for another stupid question. What kind of usb cable comes with the keyboard? I see in the shop there are some other cables you can buy separately.

[buoyant solstice]

Similar cable to the 60HE and 2HE, except a new wrap design. Also it is USB C to C this time, with a little dongle bit to convert to A on the PC end.

#🌟│wooting80he message
Calder posted some prototype previews last night.

[weary wren]

how do we get our special discord role and name on the page?

[vivid shuttle]

Thats great. Thank you much @buoyant solstice

[buoyant solstice]

First part is handled via our hub. Second part is not ready - We'll get in touch with everyone once that system is good to go.
https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

[weary wren]

Thanks I will check that out now

Oh look I am yellow now.

[winged pelican]

im looking at mostly black or grey colors but open to some color accents but let's see, still got a few months to choose

max budget 500 eur for keycaps incl custom ones

[opaque dagger]

Which detectable coiled cable colorway is the best?

[lunar arch]

Is the pre order sold out yet?

[opaque dagger]

Custom keycaps?

[winged pelican]

"artisan"

[buoyant solstice]

We won't sell out. We'll just open up additional "production batches", and new orders will have a later delivery date.

[lunar arch]

Ty

Is it first in first out for the orders ?

[winged pelican]

example 😮 but not every key

[buoyant solstice]

Basically yes. Every order is assigned to a specific "batch" on checkout.
That entire batch is manufactured and shipped to our warehouse as one. Then split up into individual orders for customers.

[opaque dagger]

Any downside of production batches?

[dim sierra]

i have a cat paw

[lunar arch]

My order was completed at 10:01 AM EST

So I should be in the first batch

[formal siren]

Is wooting founders l45 v2 switches (campaign free) better than the included ones? Someone knows?

I mean what’s the difference

[midnight iron]

what do you mean? Those are the included ones

[dim sierra]

if u choose l45 u get l60 free so there is no difference just weight

[formal siren]

Oh do I have to mount them by my self or is it just included and mounted?

I bought the standard edition with zinc alloy and keycapsn

[dim sierra]

if u bought preassembled, u can use it out of box

[formal siren]

Perfect. Thank you.

I think the first ones

[buoyant solstice]

L60 preinstalled. And then we'll change the free ones to one pack of L45s in total.

[sage reef]

just to be sure, does module zinc order have travel case included?

[formal siren]

Is l45 better than l60?

[sage reef]

imo L45 is too sensitive

[mortal tree]

yellow name check

[buoyant solstice]

Zinc = Free travel case

[sage reef]

ok cool

[formal siren]

@buoyant solstice if I only see l45 in my order history does that mean they come pre installed ? I see nothing about l60

[opaque dagger]

we good?

[proper sage]

nicee

[dim sierra]

no

[celest laurel]

congrats, now the wait begins 😄

[sage reef]

wrong case

[buoyant solstice]

All prebuilt 80HEs have L60 switches preinstalled.
Module has no switches.

[opaque dagger]

why?

[opaque dagger]

what am i missing?

[formal siren]

Ok thanks and l45 is more sensitive responsive than 60 right?

[sage reef]

nvm, i guess you by it for your 60HE

[opaque dagger]

yep! needed one anyway so might as well

[obtuse wagon]

Lighter to actuate

[buoyant solstice]

The springs in them are slightly lighter, so they take less force to push down fully.

[dim sierra]

i think zinc get free travel case already, also wristrest is insanely nice to have imo.
RAW ZINC GANG TOO NOT WHITE CHURCH

[formal siren]

Ok thanks

[celest laurel]

subjectively, in your opinon, are these more comfortable? just curious

[buoyant solstice]

Purely subjectively I prefer my handlubed 60s to my stock L45s. But I also mainly use my keyboard for typing all day and about 10% gaming (and even then it's mostly mouse games like turn based strategy, not WASD games)

[opaque dagger]

i needed one for my 60HE

[sage reef]

I think if you set some pretty low (longer to press) actuation point with L45, they are fine, and your fingers should be less tired over time than with L60

[opaque dagger]

and i also kinda want a full white out build

[celest laurel]

thanks, appreciate the share

[dim sierra]

would just use 80he for 60he tbh, unless u intent to carry the heavy zinc case around too 💀

[obtuse wagon]

Well if you look at it from "less tired over time"... over time your hand will develop the muscle needed to comfortably use L60

[opaque dagger]

i just want to store it

[celest laurel]

sounds like for fps/competetive L45 are the way to go, tho? due to less force needed to push down in multiple quick successions?

[civic summit]

hi hi

[opaque dagger]

and i dont have 60% case, and too many 60% keyboards, so i need one xd

[dim sierra]

yeah if u want it its fine, im storing mine in the 80he travel case.
also get wristrest, save ur wrist from long hours of typing and gaming

[civic summit]

joining the Founders' campaign

[opaque dagger]

i already have the boog75 wrist rest and i checked out already 😦

[obtuse wagon]

Wouldn't look at it that way, especially not with Rappy Snappy coming

[formal siren]

How is the l45 switches vs steelseries apex pro omnipoint? Someone knows? Is it more responsive? Lesser force?

[dim sierra]

[dense ridge]

@midnight iron it would look like used lether with or without that anti oxidization coat? i didnt understand good enough

[obtuse wagon]

I would say the L45's are more inline with the Omnipoints on a Apex pro.. I came from the 2019 TKL an the L60s felt heavier when I first received my board

[sage reef]

it's the sensors (on PCB) and the module itself that mostly determines responsiveness of HE switches, and wooting is best by far in responsiveness

[formal siren]

Alright looking forward to em

[celest laurel]

Any tip on how these would compare to gateron jades?

[obtuse wagon]

No idea, have never used the jades

Just patiently waiting for Wooting to drop spring packs

[peak meadow]

HE switches can only be linear right? I wish it could use tactile switches

[dim sierra]

1 year and tactile switch will come trust me bro

[midnight iron]

he's saying there's a coat for oxidization but might not necessarily be the most protective for general wear

[obtuse wagon]

🤷‍♂️ maybe somebody is working on them, would kinda defeat the entire purpose of the switch tho

[elfin dock]

I removed the free switches before ordering. Was that a mistake? Is there a way to add them back?

[deft basalt]

I mean they can have a tacitle bump but it won't be the actutation point

[obtuse wagon]

What Im figuring they would be like

[peak meadow]

Yeah I know that's just what I like to type on. I think

[obtuse wagon]

Then get a keyboard for typing/work

What a bunch seem to do around here, the Ortho Spilt has a cult like following

[dense ridge]

again, kind of hard to understand! so that raw will have that coating or not?

[deft basalt]

Raw will

[dim sierra]

RAW ZINC GANG

[dense ridge]

@deft basalt and it will be easy to scratch? and will look like used leather? or what?

[sage reef]

nah, get like 60HE for gaming and another for work, but then definitely not Ortho, too different to switch between

[deft basalt]

@buoyant solstice Help

[midnight iron]

it's a coating to stop oxidization, not necessarily protect the keyboard like a full cover would

[formal siren]

Is gateron jade switches more responsive than l45? Better for gaming?

[peak meadow]

I mean I like it also for games because the bump at the activation point I like. But maybe HE switch is just aren't for me then.

[dim sierra]

jade is mostly for sound

[dense ridge]

so it will scratch easy and will look like used leather?

[dim sierra]

it will scratch as easily as zinc alloy will

[obtuse wagon]

Raw Zinc looks like used leather?

[midnight iron]

depends on how well you take care of it. But it's a raw surface so it's going to change over time unlike a painted/coated finish

[peak meadow]

What would be cool, granted probably not possible..... Change the activation point on the he switch. It also moves the bump

[midnight iron]

if you want a finish that will stay exactly the same forever then don't buy a raw case basically. Get one of the colored ones

[dense ridge]

so it will be easier to damage raw case then the black alloy case?

[pseudo parrot]

Moonlander my beloved

[dense ridge]

the black one will be more durable?

[midnight iron]

yes because raw is raw, it's not coated with black paint etc

[peak meadow]

Rawdog

[obtuse wagon]

You guys have convinced me to get 1 if I ever get a office style job

[dim sierra]

RAW

[dreamy sedge]

im white church

[midnight iron]

you can always cover a raw case with clear coats, cerakote etc though

[pseudo parrot]

As V told me, you’re gonna be hilariously slow at first but just give it a few weeks and it’ll feel natural to you. Like you’re learning to bike. But your wrists will thank you that much I can say haha

[dense ridge]

@midnight ironbro i really dont want to buy a case for 100 euro to cover in by myself

[obtuse wagon]

Then get another case

[midnight iron]

honestly it sounds like you don't want a raw case lol

[sage reef]

considered raw, but i think would look too industrial for me, with black keycaps esp. looks better with white keycaps I guess

[dense ridge]

@midnight ironto be honest the raw was looking the best.. but i didnt know that it has so many problems

[dim sierra]

i have white and grey keycaps so RAW ZINC GANG

[midnight iron]

you don't have to force yourself to buy a raw case, just buy a black or white if you're not prepared to own a raw material case

[obtuse wagon]

Guessing they got the raw idea from all the peeps painting the Alumaze 🤔

[heavy flax]

wait you have to coat the raw case?

[obtuse wagon]

Would make sending it off to that Intsagram guy a whole hell of a lot easier

[midnight iron]

you don't have to, but it will show wear over time more easily

[dense ridge]

otherwhise it will look like a used leather

[heavy flax]

can i change it bc i ordered already

[midnight iron]

that's part of it's appeal, some people like raw cases for that look

[buoyant solstice]

The raw case has a coating to prevent oxidation.

[dense ridge]

[buoyant solstice]

#1217854216186630224 message

[midnight iron]

yeah just look after the case and don't scratch it if you're worried about that

[heavy flax]

can i change it

[buoyant solstice]

I mean... sandpaper fixes anything I suppose? Or a chemical bath. Not something we can support.

[obtuse wagon]

I mean who the hell is scratching the keyboard like that

[heavy flax]

i mean like can i change my order

[obtuse wagon]

Would need to email them

[sage reef]

even if you scratch it, I think it won't be enough to get through the coating completely

[dense ridge]

bro, its kind of strange really to sandpaper something that u have bought for 100 euro xD

[midnight iron]

i don't know, i think they're being paranoid honestly

[buoyant solstice]

You can email us at [e-mail]

[obtuse wagon]

People pay hundreds for a peice of wood to chop it up

[heavy flax]

dillon brooks didnt die for this 🙏

[midnight iron]

actually raw cases are often bought to do exactly that

[buoyant solstice]

Your case, your money.
If you want to remove paint or a coating, that's entirely your prerogative.

[dense ridge]

@midnight ironi see.. then its not for me

[dim sierra]

stay raw zinc gang

[obtuse wagon]

Doesnt sound like it

[heavy flax]

white zinc plus bow keycaps would look so good ngl

[turbid void]

If you ain't raw I say naw, zinc gang

[dense ridge]

@midnight ironwhat about the black one? will it be more durable?

[deft basalt]

Should be because additional coatings

[midnight iron]

? what do you mean

it'll be a standard black coated metal case

[deft basalt]

Most people go raw to put their own coatings

[dense ridge]

@deft basalt

[sage reef]

but you still can probably, why not

[heavy flax]

theres probably a good amount of people who bought raw not knowing they need to add coatings to it though

[dense ridge]

@midnight iron will it look also like a used leather =)?

[obtuse wagon]

You dont need to add coatings, but the look will change over time

[midnight iron]

well you don't need to either. There's an anti oxidization coat/treatment

[midnight iron]

it will look like a black painted case

[obtuse wagon]

People need to do more research, that is on them

What that is for

[dim sierra]

tbh it will take years to change

[sage reef]

mature like wine

[obtuse wagon]

Exactly, who tf is moving a keyboard that much in all honesty, people who do probably make up the minority

[heavy flax]

at least good customer support so i can switch my color 🙏

[sly pilot]

will there be more colors of zinc alloy ?

[deft basalt]

Keyboard warriors

[obtuse wagon]

Calm down there buddy, we need more Alumaze colors first

[molten arch]

Was thinking about raw case with metal keycaps, but went for all black now

[obtuse wagon]

Do they use the keyboards as swords?

[deft basalt]

Yes

[sly pilot]

who want alumaze when you can have zinc alloy

[dense ridge]

@midnight ironin terms of durability? it is better to order the black one?

[dim sierra]

[analog grail]

Probably will be down the line, but not for a while I imagine

[deft basalt]

https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/012/746/314/large/bo-peng-sword-01.jpg?1536294100

[obtuse wagon]

Plenty of folks who have no interest in this size keyboard

[midnight iron]

i think you're reading way too much into this

[molten arch]

Maybe ill do it later tho

[obtuse wagon]

How much do you move your keyboard @dense ridge

[sly pilot]

ayay

[sage reef]

nah it should be worse, if you scratch black, it will be more visible

[sly pilot]

yea maybe but I was just curious

[dense ridge]

@obtuse wagon i dont know.. maybe 4-5 times in a day

[midnight iron]

the black case will look like a black painted case forever unless you scratch it or something else, then it will look like a scratched black case

[heavy flax]

any warranty coverage

[deft basalt]

4 years

[dim sierra]

get plastic unless u want to carry a 2-3kg kb around

[heavy flax]

nice

[midnight iron]

yeah if you're moving the keyboard around 4-5 times a day I don't know why you're buying zinc

[molten arch]

Free training weights

[midnight iron]

that's what a plastic case is for - i'm not moving a 3kg built keyboard that many times a day lol

[deft basalt]

Maybe they really are a keyboard warrior

[obtuse wagon]

Seems to be

[dense ridge]

@dim sierrai would order the plastic one if there was not a big branding behide the case.. i hate so big brandings..

[neat tusk]

anyone has a pic of Frost color case? I am considering between Frost and Ghost

[sage reef]

I think heavier like Zink is kind of necessary for gaming, since during gaming kb often moves a lot, like up

[deft basalt]

PCR?

[dense ridge]

@deft basalt? its plastic case yes

[deft basalt]

Its 700g for plastic how it be moving

[tranquil pike]

now is preorder section right ？

[proper pine]

you guys dont even know how hyped I am :D now the only thing left to do is wait ...

[deft basalt]

Wait the frost and ghost have brandings?

[dense ridge]

@deft basaltyes the same as in this screen

[deft basalt]

Oop uhh sand it?

[molten arch]

Yep

[midnight iron]

it's a UV print

[heavy flax]

whos gonna see that

[dense ridge]

@midnight ironis it easy to remove?

[deft basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/waits-faster-gif-25014643

[midnight iron]

no idea

[dense ridge]

@heavy flaxdont need to see if u know about it

[heavy flax]

oh my god you just convinced me to cancel for frosted pcr

[midnight iron]

honestly it's on the back of the case and not very obvious

[dense ridge]

@midnight ironbut why they did it? do u like how it looks?

[midnight iron]

i think it looks fine. I don't care one way or the other since it's on the back

[ripe sierra]

just ordered my 80% how do i get my role?

[obtuse wagon]

Same

[obtuse wagon]

Go to the Rewards page on the hub an link your Discord

[dim sierra]

i didnt even check, I see RAW and im sold

[dense ridge]

@midnight iron i dont know... why they had to add that huge branding there...

[heavy flax]

which ver did they use on the sound test? zinc or pcr

[dense ridge]

@heavy flaxpcr

[dim sierra]

pcr

[midnight iron]

you can't even see it normally and it's a uv brand only on the plastic cases

[deft basalt]

Put some tape over it idk

Or wait for aftermarket cases

[midnight iron]

you would legit have to be using your computer looking away from your monitor and above the keyboard to see it

[heavy flax]

whered you get the screenshot

[dense ridge]

@midnight ironbro u can see it!!! look at this

[midnight iron]

looks fine to me

again i wouldn't care whether it was there or not there

[heavy flax]

ur not a real wooter if youre not proud to have a wooting keyboard

[obtuse wagon]

You sit at that angle to your keyboard?

[dense ridge]

@midnight iron wearing also t shirts with huge brand logos?

[deft basalt]

Dawg you'd be having to be leaning over to see it like that

[obtuse wagon]

wtf Im saying

[midnight iron]

i'm not insecure enough to care if someone thinks the tiny barely visible branding on the back of my keyboard makes me uncool

[obtuse wagon]

Think this person is just very anal it seems.. so little things here an there about every option is bothering them

[heavy flax]

does anyone know if i can fit led strips or something into the keyboard for underglow

[heavy flax]

chill lol id prefer it without the branding too

[runic rain]

@obtuse wagon Did you pre-order the 80he?

[heavy flax]

but yea it shouldnt be a dealbreaker

[dense ridge]

@midnight ironusually ppl who are insecure are wearing clothes with huge branding and not vice versa... but ok

[opaque dagger]

erm when i ordered it says earliest is July but now it's September??

[obtuse wagon]

That was not an attack, just an observation

[buoyant solstice]

Anything is theoretically possible I suppose, but you won't have anywhere to plug it in for power

[heavy flax]

is the front of your keyboard on display

[midnight iron]

insecure people worry about what other people think. Just do what you want and stop worrying about it

[deft basalt]

Different batch?

[heavy flax]

man

[opaque dagger]

idk

[buoyant solstice]

It's an estimate. We're hoping for July/August but delays can happen.

(Also picking a slow courier will make your order arrive later)

[obtuse wagon]

Not yet, really wanted the pcb icons for Founders which didnt happen, rather just wait an let actual hyped customers get 1 first

[opaque dagger]

can anyone confirm?

[dense ridge]

@midnight ironexactly thats why they are wearing clothes with huge logos to make it possible to see for others that they are wearing something expensive.

[opaque dagger]

i only have 1 option for shipping and it cost 52

[dense ridge]

@midnight iron if i dont like huge and unnecessary logos that dosnt mean that i care for others! i just hate overkill branding overall

[buoyant solstice]

That's fair.

[dim sierra]

if ur batch is kampion or sth it should be the first batch

[deft basalt]

Then just get the zinc case?

[midnight iron]

maybe you should buy the zinc if you're that worried about the logo

[obtuse wagon]

Looks about right, they hoped to start shipping in August, maybe location for you is pushing it back a little

[opaque dagger]

EU-Brug

[pseudo parrot]

Get zinc problem solved

[heavy flax]

not a real wooter

[obtuse wagon]

Ohh shit first batch is already gone then

[opaque dagger]

oh i see. damn im 6 months away

[midnight iron]

i'm fairly sure you'd have to be superman eyesight to notice and stare at the barely noticable logo through the back of the plastic case, but if it's such a problem just buy the zinc

[dense ridge]

thats why i was almost ordering raw zinc case.. and then i saw that it will look like a leather over time xD

[obtuse wagon]

Everybody else is 5 not missing much

[opaque dagger]

true true

[deft basalt]

Then just order a black zinc

[heavy flax]

ngl an engraved wooting logo on zinc would go hard though

[dim sierra]

yeah should be fine, either ur shipping takes longer so the estimate is wider

[deft basalt]

What is so hard to understand

[pseudo parrot]

I mean my two he has a wooting logo on the front, barely noticeable and I think it looks nice

[deft basalt]

[opaque dagger]

okay then, i will use my 60he since i just built mine last month

[heavy flax]

oh yea is rappy snappy or whatever going to the 60he

[runic rain]

I was waiting for a wooting with the layout of something along the lines of the 80he for a while. However I ended up getting the 60he a few months ago after finding out about mod tap. Contemplating on getting the 80he and selling the 60he

[icy cosmos]

No problem with right coating protection 😉. I can recommend Ceramic Pro

[dim sierra]

yess

[heavy flax]

id like to try it

[dim sierra]

80he is just 8k + more keys pretty much it

[deft basalt]

Gasket mount

[icy cosmos]

Second that. Tasteful branding is part of a good design

[obtuse wagon]

Not a performance feature tho

[dim sierra]

oh ya and that

[deft basalt]

True

[heavy flax]

is there a chance that theyre gonna sell alu plate

[icy cosmos]

Less is more 🤔

[heavy flax]

i like clack/pop

[buoyant solstice]

No alu. Too complex to cnc

[dim sierra]

i got 80he to for jade + gasket mount

[obtuse wagon]

Wonder how Rappy Snappy will feel in Apex

[pseudo parrot]

I love the name rappy snappy lol

[molten arch]

The website is still having issues.. Cant claim my role.. ;^;

[heavy flax]

fr4 maybe?

[midnight iron]

i think you'd have to adjust to the timing of pressing 2 keys at once, but once you adjust it'd be very consistent

[ripe sierra]

getting the founds edition 80% is gonna be cool, i just hope there’s no big batch flaws

[deft basalt]

QC should clear any problems

[ripe sierra]

my role didn’t update weird

[deft basalt]

Give a bit website is swarmed

[heavy flax]

rappy snappy sounds very broken for osu

[deft basalt]

Potential ban on that feature for OSU!

[ripe sierra]

you guys gonna be rolling with the l45 v2’s or the stocks?

[molten arch]

Its almost 24h later and it still doesnt register my new role xD

[deft basalt]

You linked your discord?

And refreshed rewards

[dim sierra]

jades

[molten arch]

Yeah, but the website itself wont give me my role

[runic rain]

Out of curiosity anyone here use the F row for gaming? If so, which game?

[deft basalt]

Refresh rewards?

[heavy flax]

pls twll me ur joking

[dense ridge]

@runic rain lineage 2

[buoyant solstice]

Any, all.

[molten arch]

Plenty of times

[runic rain]

Fair enough

[dense ridge]

@runic rainpubg

[deft basalt]

I'm not due to one of their rules

[runic rain]

For pubg? Interesting

[heavy flax]

i plan on holding spacebar and tapping a single key

[dense ridge]

@runic rain granades are on F keys

[gilded horizon]

@buoyant solstice do you think orders made the 1st next month will still be batch 1?

[buoyant solstice]

I don't make predictions.

[runic rain]

I meant function keys like F1

[deft basalt]

Probably not

[gilded horizon]

Fair enough maybe someone would know

[dense ridge]

@runic rainyeah i am saying pubg and lineage 2 )

[runic rain]

Gotcha

[deft basalt]

Mean its already second patch for some places afaik

[molten arch]

First batch is already gone

[ripe sierra]

i picked up every add on possible haha

[dense ridge]

@runic rainon lineage 2 u cant play without f keys at all! u are using your skills with that keys

[heavy flax]

are there any other plate options

[nimble gazelle]

10k orders, spicy

[agile crown]

mc

[gilded horizon]

I don’t think batch 1 is gone? @molten arch

[runic rain]

Gotcha. I suppose a lot of MMOs require the F keys as well

[deft basalt]

Some places

[rapid basalt]

How do you know the batch numbers?

[dense ridge]

@runic raini think all of them 🙂

[gilded horizon]

Ah

[obtuse wagon]

I mean Fn 1 with Mod Tap on Caps Lock an its like you are still using F Row

[deft basalt]

Region and the name following

[gilded horizon]

How long do we have to wait more if we don’t get the first batch lol

[heavy flax]

if anyone knows, how many 60hes have been bought in total?

[ripe sierra]

never said i knew the batch numbers

[runic rain]

Last MMO I played was Asheron’s Call back in 1999. Iirc I did use the F keys

[agile crown]

kinda, but not everybody likes that

[runic rain]

I actually use caps lock as a key bind so I can always set a different key for function if I ever need the F row

[obtuse wagon]

100%, but very doable, I play Squad an HLL an both require lots of F1 use, MMO's that have heavy F1 use are not getting any benefits from a keyboard like this

[molten arch]

Ppl already ordering from EU-Brug, first batch is EU-Kampioen

[agile crown]

valid

[dense ridge]

@buoyant solstice can it be possible to pay for example 30 euro more and get a plastic case without that UV printed logo? can u check it please?

[gilded horizon]

@molten arch and what is expected delivery for second batch then

[runic rain]

Does pressing function and another key simultaneously cause increased delay like mod tap?

[obtuse wagon]

The guys picture earlier showed September

[gilded horizon]

Woot seriously ?

[heavy flax]

anyone know how i could add a glossy finish to pcr

[pseudo parrot]

How I understand it is you can only buy whatever case checkout shows you

[molten arch]

It should tell ya on the wooting page

[dense ridge]

@pseudo parrotmaybe they can add that option?

[heavy flax]

lol

[pseudo parrot]

If there is enough demand maybe? But I don’t think there is, not sure though just my opinion

[midnight iron]

there's no way it would cost only 30 euros to do all the work to get a 1 of 1 case change

[obtuse wagon]

you can request it over in #1141096226884956181

[heavy flax]

custom uv printing would be nice icl

[silk hedge]

What's the name of the first batch?

[heavy flax]

just… expensive

[dense ridge]

@pseudo parrot i think the demand will be super hight! i sproke with customers in this 1 day and all of them are hating that huge branding

[buoyant solstice]

Kampieon/Champion
EU and US respectively.

[obtuse wagon]

Wooting is getting into Apple territory with that

[low token]

Eu- Kampieon and NA-champion

[gilded horizon]

@molten arch mine still says EU-Kampioen

[heavy flax]

who lol

[midnight iron]

how is he speaking to many customers about this, he just found out about it lol

[silk hedge]

Oh nice im part of batch 1 then

[heavy flax]

not always a bad thing imo

[midnight iron]

and most people here said they don't care about it

[molten arch]

Then its first batch

[dense ridge]

@midnight iron really? u know better them me? when i found it?

[obtuse wagon]

Dont ask so many questions

[young temple]

I'm batch 1 then too. I ordered it yesterday.

[obtuse wagon]

[pseudo parrot]

Tbh you are the first one that i am speaking to, wanting to remove that logo

[gilded horizon]

@molten arch that’s if I order now I mean

[low token]

They cant. Because european Union

[dense ridge]

@pseudo parrotbc 90% of customers didnt even know that there will be a logo before they made a pre order

[silk hedge]

I mean u wont see it

[buoyant solstice]

And 90% of those 90% probably don't care either 😄

[obtuse wagon]

An I bet a good chunk of them dont care, no need to speak for others

[fallen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-gif-23918002

[dense ridge]

why are u so sure?

i would not be so sure to be honest

[buoyant solstice]

Okay. It's a good thing we're bringing lots of photos and more out in the coming weeks and months. Anyone can email us to adjust or cancel their order right up until they ship.

And return the keyboard within 30 days of receiving it, should they want to return it.

[heavy flax]

no one argued about it

[dense ridge]

@heavy flax no one knows about it dude

[obtuse wagon]

So you are the only person to know.. ontop of talking to a ton of customers about it

[heavy flax]

oh my lord you must be the thinker

[midnight iron]

you know... the argument 'no one knows' works both ways. It also means you don't know if they do care

[silk hedge]

I mean from a marketing standpoint it's probably the best angle since if pros start using it the branding will be shown on the cameras that record them from the front

[molten arch]

Noone can tell ya how long first batch is available, just told ya that some ppl already got put in the second one

[heavy flax]

oh by the way, what voids the warranty?

[obtuse wagon]

@heavy flax you see why I said they seemed anal.. they are the anal lord

now they are trying to control the outcome of case designs

[midnight iron]

'anal lord' might be poor wording...

[heavy flax]

yea

[low token]

Sussy name

[dense ridge]

@obtuse wagon i really dont want to speak with u at all! u were that 1 guy who was liking the old arrow keys right?

[buoyant solstice]

You break it, you buy it.
If you break a switch, then you'll have to pay for replacement switches as needed.
If you break the case while modding it, you'll have to pay for a replacement case - but the rest of the keyboard still retains warranty.

[heavy flax]

why does the branding bother you so much

[dense ridge]

@heavy flax bc its not aesthetic and minimalist! it looks cheap and horrible.

[heavy flax]

so if i put anything unconventionak in the case it doesnt void it?

[obtuse wagon]

You dont have to speak to me, but you will respect people in this chat an not spread misinformation or speak for a group of nonexistent people

[silk hedge]

Zinc case also has the branding right?

[neat tusk]

now let the wait starts

[heavy flax]

how is it not minimalist? it is “wooting”

[solemn hare]

are there any discount for 80he?

[runic rain]

If I decide on cancelling the order before it’s shipped is the refund process hassle free? Do I just email wooting to request it?

[dense ridge]

i think u are not that guy who will tell me what to do in this chat! i am resprecting everyone and expecting the same from everyone! just dont speak to me

[silk hedge]

U wont see it from the top

[fallen forge]

people actually care about branding on the back on the keeb

[obtuse wagon]

Im a mod so thats kinda my job

[low token]

Yes. Discord Discount

[fallen forge]

poor 60he with logo right in front

[solemn hare]

oh no i already bought it

[pseudo parrot]

Yes I believe it is trouble free. Just contact wooting through email stating you wish to cancel the order

[midnight iron]

nah no branding on the zinc

[heavy flax]

lol yea buy zinc atp youre making a bigger deal out of this than moving 3kg sround

[dense ridge]

@silk hedgeu see it bro.. on ghost case

[runic rain]

Gotcha. Thank you

[silk hedge]

Oh, well if it bothers you so much just go with the zinc 😂

[midnight iron]

if anything the true minimalist case would be no case. It's time to have an open pcb

[pseudo parrot]

Oh btw using the email you used to order and including the order number will speed up the process a little

[molten arch]

If 3kg are an issue, you gotta visit the gym anyway..

[ebon sluice]

just photoshop it out - done

[dense ridge]

[worldly hollow]

hello, quick question. When and how do you get the Founders Discord Role?

[heavy flax]

true minimalist doesnt buy anything 🙏

[runic rain]

Alright. Appreciate the info

[deft basalt]

I don't think even get that angle on a standing desk

[fallen forge]

60he is also the minimalistic option, why do you need that f row and arrows clutter anyway

[novel panther]

I just preorder my 80he, how can I claim my role?

[obtuse wagon]

What we both said earlier, this convo is just going in circles

[molten arch]

When the server feels like it, im also waiting for it xD

[deft basalt]

This is a literal non issue

[buoyant solstice]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account
You get the role via our hub. 🙂

[heavy flax]

oh yea, it looks real nice with redux case

[worldly hollow]

ok thanks 👌

[midnight iron]

yeah like look at the angle of your keycaps on your desk now lol

[sterile walrus]

Imagine that happening here...

[pseudo parrot]

lol sleep on the floor even

[heavy flax]

guys switching from a higround keyboard 🙏

[deft basalt]

1. You'll never see it in normal use
2. If it bothers you so much get zinc and cry about moving 2.1kg everywhere

[heavy flax]

no house

[dense ridge]

lol exactly! they did the same what higround did...

[obtuse wagon]

Could never

[midnight iron]

you can barely see even the edge of the case from that angle

[heavy flax]

nice board

[novel panther]

Got it, ty

[deft basalt]

Whatever this is getting nowhere

[dense ridge]

bro, it dosnt matter u see it or not.. u know about it! also it is visible from the top and from the back side.

[buoyant solstice]

Dude - We get it. It bothers you.

So change the case. 🙂

[heavy flax]

do you look under your table and directly above it

heck what keyboard do you have right now

[pseudo parrot]

Tbh just go to #1141096226884956181 and post your thoughts there

[dense ridge]

add a function so we can pay more and get a keyboard without that watermark

[fervent birch]

How do you guys cope with the wait for the 80HE?

[buoyant solstice]

It's called a Zinc case. There you go.

[heavy flax]

lol?

[midnight iron]

i'm sure if you offer $10k calder might be able to do one for you

[pseudo parrot]

By forgetting that I ordered it

[ebon sluice]

what about keycap prints, do they bother you too? even I'm sick of minimalism, time to go full hardy with the 80HE

[molten arch]

Playing on my 60HE

[deft basalt]

@dense ridge Customs cases are also a thing

[kindred dew]

ok

[heavy flax]

whats the wait if your order rn?

[deft basalt]

Literally just wait I guess

[dense ridge]

there are no custom cases bro

[runic rain]

How long did it take for the 60he to ship after its founders campaign?

[deft basalt]

Then wait

Bro is rejecting every single solution

[buoyant solstice]

About 9 months I think? There were some major delays.

[pseudo parrot]

Estimated delivery for me is early August but I’d expect delays. Idk what the current estimate is