💻│wootomation

[frigid kiln]

Not purely for games but just as having the perfect keyboard kind of thing

[shy lotus]

well we did have some questions about what people wanna use macros for way before the Lekker edition came out in 2021 and almost all suggestions were game related

[frigid kiln]

I like having a infinite scroll wheel on my keyboard and wooting can't do that

[shy lotus]

im unsure if looping macros will be implemented on the keyboard firmware

[frigid kiln]

All goods I was just asking, still waiting for a perfect keyboard

Wanted to buy a huntsman mini but their analog implementation with light sucks

[shy lotus]

the main issue is the extra code overhead for a function that has almost no to no realworld use outside of game macros

ofc you can tell us what kinds of macros you wanna use and for what so we can weight the pros and cons of how useful is this for most people and how difficult is it to cram into the firmware

we are always looking for things we dont know or havent heard yet to improve the keyboard, software and firmware

[frigid kiln]

For me I want a a button to loop scroolwhell without having to run software but more flexible is nicer

[shy lotus]

is this generally useful for office work? im unsure where this might be useful

[frigid kiln]

For me web browsing, video editing, coding. My finger cramps up when I scroll too much

[shy lotus]

hm

[patent portal]

Could potentially be fun

[fervent otter]

when I opened up the wootomation program today, all my macros are gone. anyone know why this happened and how to retrieve them?

[knotty sapphire]

Not sure why this has happened

You should be able to find your macros in the data_json file in your %AppData%/Roaming/wooting-macro-app folder

Any details about your PC that you think could have changed?

[fervent otter]

I haven't done anything to my PC that I can think of. I went to that folder and I see a config.json and data_json.json file there. But I think they are empty

[knotty sapphire]

@pure salmon any ideas about this 🤔

[pure salmon]

im not sure actually could be of multiple reasons including windows update related

[fervent otter]

i did update my windows management engine interface driver via driver easy last night. doubt that's the reason but only thing I can think of that I did recently

[pure salmon]

hmm that probs isnt it

[keen cape]

Hello !
Just a quick message to point out that I can't get Wootomation to switch to azerty, it saves the keys as qwerty, which is a bit annoying, I don't know if there's a solution or if it's a software problem, if anyone has any ideas?

[knotty sapphire]

Just want to confirm, are you talking about Wootomation or Wootility

[keen cape]

Wootomation, The macro software. :)

[knotty sapphire]

And when you say saving keys, do you mean for the trigger key(s) of a macro?

[keen cape]

If it helps me to understand: On an azerty keyboard, the A is in place of the Q, so when I type my A key while recording, it takes the Q key into account. If I then launch the macro, it's the Q key that's launched.

Same here, I press A, but Q is taken into account.

[knotty sapphire]

Ah, I see. I'm not too familiar with keyboard layouts so perhaps David or Tony can correct me

But at the moment how we handle registering keys is taking their HID and mapping it to a specific character. What I'm guessing, is that because A in qwerty has the same HID as Q in azerty, you are seeing an A because our internal map is not taking into account other layouts

Unfortunately, I can't provide you with an ETA on when this will be fixed, but I have noted it down

[keen cape]

All right, thanks! :) It's cool to know it's taken into account, for now it's no big deal I can just go through another macro software.

[pure salmon]

i wonder if it happens if wootomation is started in azerty layout or if this disconnect between layouts only happens if you switch between them

[pure salmon]

but then this might be a frontend issue technically, as the grabber for these is a separate thing

[keen cape]

I've tested both, in azerty, then qwerty, then azerty and switch to qwerty once wootomation is open, it doesn't change anything, it's always qwerty that's taken into account.

I tried using a macro, but it's the qwerty keys that are used and not their azerty correspondences.

English is not my first language, so I hope I'm understandable. 🤓

[pure salmon]

yeah of course, i have an idea of why that could be happening but not sure yet on a solution that would be fast to implement

i'll keep it in mind and open up an issue

[zenith swift]

Is it possible to loop a command within wootomation?

[knotty sapphire]

Not at the moment. It's high on the list, but no eta

[pastel fjord]

Got my wooting last night and trying to set up a macro now. I've bound a macro that spams left click to f6, and it works. Though, I would like it to be a toggle, so that I don't have to hold it down. Is that possible? I can't seem to find any way to change it.

Ah nvm just made my f6 key a toggle key lol

Couldn't find a wootility section though to ask about that software so will ask in here. My game detects a controller input from my keyboard and therefore I can not move using my normal keys, any suggestions on what I can do to solve this? I have not bound any gamepad keys to my keyboard.

[knotty sapphire]

Not as familiar with this issue, but try disabling gamepad mode in the settings in Wootility

[crisp stump]

is it possible to set mousewheeldown or up as an trigger?

[knotty sapphire]

Not at the moment, the mouse wheel is a slightly different beast that we did not have time for in v1.

[crisp stump]

ah ok thats understandable
but its in planning ?
love the software in every other way, but the mousewheel is kind of the most important macro for me 😂

[pastel fjord]

Any way I can remove these profiles that I don't want or need?

[pure salmon]

these are always present on your keyboard, removing wouldn't really do anything 😄

[pastel fjord]

Wdym? I just want to use the Main one constantly. Though, when I launch my computer it auto switches to another profile.

Oh I see, just duplicated my main profile and switched it out with those other profiles so they ended up in inactive profiles.

[knotty sapphire]

It's definitely something we've heard from others as well. No eta, there are higher priority things to get done first.

[rich pewter]

does anyone have a d2 well skate macro?

[keen thicket]

How do I make the macro I created loop? Also, I can only set 1 key for the trigger key and not 4 because it stops recording after the first key input.

[visual girder]

No function for loop yet

[hexed onyx]

sorry if already fixed, but could you hit the key, create your macro and then tell the macro to also make it hit the key you want it to hit?

to not need a different software then?

[keen cape]

I have to use another software because, for example, with the azerty keyboard the " ! " key is a single key, whereas with the key layout on wootomation I can't make the shortcut for " ! ", so it's a bit problematic.

[twilit nymph]

Is there any way to loop the action until the macro is triggered again?

[visual girder]

No loop just yet

[twilit nymph]

Thanks! Sorry for not reading and making you answer the same question

[prisma galleon]

I haven't checked the software yet (in bed right now), but is there an option to randomise delay based on a specific range? like from 115ms to 204ms

[knotty sapphire]

Not at the moment.

[pure salmon]

not at the moment and probably wont be as this behaviour could be used to cheat in games afaik.

[shy lotus]

idk what outside of cheating in games would even benefit from a random delay

[steel flower]

is there a way to export/share macros made in wootomation currently

[pure salmon]

not yet but you can technically copy paste the data file in %appdata%

[steel flower]

Ty David

[deft siren]

Why are my macros only working in text based applications? I can't get it to work when I'm in-game

[deft siren]

Why do only mouse bindings work for macros inside of Wootomation when in a game!?

[knotty sapphire]

@pure salmon you can probably explain better than me

but from what I can tell its due to the games you are playing and how they capture input.

[pure salmon]

yep precisely

[hardy lion]

getting

thread '<unnamed>' panicked at 'called `Option::unwrap()` on a `None` value', /home/runner/work/wooting-macros/wooting-macros/wooting-macro-backend/src/lib.rs:284:29

I can send the full backtrace, if you need

ah, it's already
https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-macros/issues/54

[pure salmon]

yeahh its most likely a permissions thing

[eager gust]

How long does wooting take to deliver??

[steel flower]

wrong channel

[surreal stump]

None of my macros are working and i have no idea how to fix it. I tried duplicating, remaking, and restarting app. one of them worked once but that's it and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

nvm i fixed it.

if anyone has this issue i went into task manager and ended the wootomation task under background processes (should be at the bottom). then i restarted app. i guess it didn't close properly

[knotty sapphire]

Did you by chance put your PC to sleep?

I've noticed personally that sometimes after waking my PC up my macros don't work as well and I have to kill the app and reopen it.

[surreal stump]

no i just downloaded the wootomation app and made the macros today. i think something happens with that background task that messes up the macro cause ive been testing it and sometimes the macro will stop working and when i end that specific task it works again. sometimes the macro will work a bunch of times and sometimes it works only once then i have to end task again

@knotty sapphire

[knotty sapphire]

Interesting. Could you detail what applications you're trying to use the macros in? e.g. games or maybe productivity stuff

[surreal stump]

yeah i intend to use the macro in destiny 2 but since their servers are down im just using it in google and in Docs

i think the issue could be in my pc an dhow it opens and closes different things

[knotty sapphire]

Maybe yeah. Just want to confirm though, what kind of keys are you using for the trigger?

[surreal stump]

number pad * and page up in the fn layer.

[knotty sapphire]

Hmm those should be fine. Do you mind screenshotting one of your macros so I can test it out as well?

[surreal stump]

yeah sure

also quick question is there a way to loop macros?

[knotty sapphire]

Not at the moment unfortunately. We wanted to get it in for v1.0 but it was a bit trickier than expected.

It's definitely on the list, but I cannot promise any ETA because at the moment Wootomation is low priority compared to the other stuff we are working on

[knotty sapphire]

Hmm I seem to be able to use this macro in docs consistently

[surreal stump]

yeah after i ended task and did a complete restart of the app it has been working consistently i guess it just opened incorrectly and messed up the macro. but i figured out the issue and i appreciate the help and urgency

[knotty sapphire]

No problem 👍

I do want to give a heads up that our software may not work with every game (most games I'd think). However, I have seen some people previously making macros for Destiny 2 so you should be fine.

[steel flower]

Well skate?

[bitter scarab]

I got my wooting keyboard today and so far everything is going good, though I wanted to try the analogue slow walking and stuff like that on Rainbow Six Siege but I can't seem to figure it out. Cause whenever I start walking the game think i am playing on a controller so I can't use any of my other keyboard binds while holding down any of the WASD buttons. Anyone know what I mean?

[pure salmon]

some games dont allow you to use both mouse and controller input at the same time. sometimes they have a setting for it, like fortnite, sometimes they dont

[bitter scarab]

Maybe cause of issues with aim assist and stuff to not be able to abuse it

I'll check through the settings

[surreal stump]

of course

[steel flower]

Here’s some I made and shared #1087681997985554512 message

[surreal stump]

cool thanks ill try them out

[steel flower]

One is well skate from ledge one from ground and the third is status hunter skate

[vernal surge]

Trying to open OBS with Wootility and Wootomation, but Wootomation is opening the OBS exe directly instead of my shortcut with its cmd parameters, what should I do?

[vernal surge]

Your best bet would probably be to convert all of your keys to be controller-like, assuming mouse isn't affected

[bitter scarab]

the aiming in itself isn't affected but I can't shoot or ADS

[vernal surge]

Oof, might be the same issue that AHK has, where the event hooks for keys get "removed" once the computer is put to sleep, AHK has the option to rehook so perhaps Wootomation could also have this feature, if anyone can find the time to do it

[vernal surge]

Ah, in that case you might have to also map your mouse's buttons to be controller-like, but at that point it doesn't seem worth it, at least to me

[bitter scarab]

Yeah lmao, I got to the point where I noticed that and it already didn't seem too worth it before

But it's fine I have some other games that support both gamepad and kbm at the same time

[knotty sapphire]

Not sure if it's setup to handle that use case

[vernal surge]

It's alright, I bypassed it by just making myself a custom bat file :p

[knotty sapphire]

5head

[vernal surge]

Perhaps making it able to use the bash start command with parameters, window title, and what to actually run, would be ideal for those that are crafty and tinker with this kind of stuff

[knotty sapphire]

Definitely something to consider in the future, but personally if I was invested to that extent I would use AHK instead 😛

For now anyways

[brazen tulip]

Can the wootomation make a macro repeats itself. I can't seem to find a way to make the macro repeat itself unless I add the same event many times

[knotty sapphire]

No not at the moment.

[brazen tulip]

Sounds good! Is the #archived_feed_us_back for both wootility/wootomation or where is a place i can send feedback regarding wootomation

[knotty sapphire]

Either works, but I would rather people post about Wootomation here so it doesn't get buried by other feedback

"Loop" and "On Hold" type macros are definitely on the list, and it was planned for v1.0 but we didn't have enough time

(Fun Fact: The current state of Wootomation is the result of about 3months of part time work from me and David)

At the moment its on the backburner since we are working on other stuff, but I still have it in mind so any feedback is great

[brazen tulip]

Sounds good thanks for the info!
Never new this was just a part time work project. Really amazing work for a side project.

Ill just keep a lookout for an update I guess when yall arent so busy. Thanks!

[knotty sapphire]

I should look into having some kind of feature request board, so people can add or upvote what features they want all in one place

[brazen tulip]

Oh that sounds like a really nice idea

[prisma galleon]

nvm with this, the software and game I wanted to macro both don't really do well with wootomation's inputs (even with fine tuning ms, it's all over the place)
((same as AHK and other choices))

[hasty hamlet]

are the macros only meant to work on text boxes, cos i have a wasd macro but it only functions in text and not on games, is this intended or do i need to do something else to make it work on games?

[knotty sapphire]

It depends on the game, some games allow macros and some don't

If what you are doing is simple try looking into DKS instead

But also, we do not recommend using macros in any competitive game.

[shy zealot]

i might be a little late but is this for light skate?

I've got around 8k hours into destiny and around 4k just in movement. If you need any help I can help you with destiny 2 macros

[surreal stump]

yeah well skate.

[shy zealot]

There's 2 types of skates though which 1 are you trying to do. Light ground
Or heavy?

[shy zealot]

To me that macro looks like it's for a ground light skate. Which depending on your fps your timings are to quick for the game to process them

[shy zealot]

If you remind me tomorrow ping me or dm me ill show you my macro timings. I'm in bed now and can't be asked.

[surreal stump]

it’s light ground and it’s been working fine

[steel flower]

ill take a look at yours if you dont mind always looking to better my own

[shy zealot]

Through out my testing this these timings usually work the best around 60 fps but also works on uncapped.

I have a video of me using it but i dont want to post it in here if im not allowed

[steel flower]

i have well ground and ledge as well as hunter shater skate here #1087681997985554512 message

[shy zealot]

Very nice

I spend a lot of time breaking destiny and finding exploits.

Im not going to post any videos but my youtube is linked to my discord you can check it if you'd like

[steel flower]

ty

[rapid shadow]

for some reason my macros just arnt macroing lmao. Like they are not activating. Im using numpad numbers as the trigger and i have tried using things such as ctrl + t. The macros i have tried are the paste one, sarcastify, and just a normal keystroke macro.

[knotty sapphire]

Are you using them in a game?

[steel flower]

Are you keeping the wootomation app open?

[rapid shadow]

no

[rapid shadow]

Yes the program is open and actively on my screemn

[knotty sapphire]

And you saved them?

Could you screenshot your macro, and also say which applications you are using them in, e.g. chrome google docs, etc

[rapid shadow]

I changed my active button to numpad6 now

[rapid shadow]

I am using them on notepad

[knotty sapphire]

For the paste text one, can you try using a different trigger? F13-24 are pretty safe

For example, I recreated the same macro with F16 as a trigger and it works as intended

When I tried using CTRL+T, I experienced the macro triggering twice which I think is due to a known bug

[rapid shadow]

Okay its fixed.

Issue: If ICUE (corsair product manager) is open the macros from wootomation will not work until process is closed. On Closing iCue wootomation closes. On running Wootomation again macros begin to work

[knotty sapphire]

Ah, yes they are likely also capturing your input, before it gets to Wootomation

[leaden obsidian]

I accidently binded a macro to mouse 1 and now I cant disable the macro because it requires me to press mouse 1 on disable in wootomation... but it just starts my bind... I cant use the program anymore. How do I fix? they need a button to disable on active binds...

[rapid shadow]

lmao

[rapid shadow]

Close the program using alt-f4. U can try binding a different key by navigating the program using tab key until u arrive at the edit trigger option. Then hit enter instead of left click. This allows u to change the keybind!

[visual girder]

Hey! Jus wondering whenever I click the "b" trigger button it doesnt trigger my macro. Can anyone help me with that?

[knotty sapphire]

Made by us, it's own thing. Works with any keyboard not just ours, and for windows and some flavours of linux

[knotty sapphire]

Going to need more info, like do you have any other software running that captures input? If not, could you post a screenshot of your macro?

[grizzled forum]

Can the UwU be set to change my 60he mode or fn layer?

[shy lotus]

no

well not right now that is

[halcyon shadow]

Are other people having issues binding mouse 4 or 5 as trigger key? When I set mouse4 or 5 to trigger a certain macro it doesn't work. Macro works fine with other keys.

[halcyon shadow]

I tried both recording and manually adding and doesn't work. Mouse buttons are working on the mouse so the mouse is not broken

[knotty sapphire]

known issue

[swift copper]

Hello, seems that "next desktop" shortcut Win + Ctrl + Right arrow cant' be use as a macro. It is possible to use wootomation to create macros to navigate between Windows desktops?

[fervent otter]

I can't bind any macros to my keyboard, I can only bind macros to my mouse. Can anyone tell me why and how to fix this please? Nevermind, I fixed it by closing program from memory and re-opening the program.

[grizzled forum]

I just tried this shortcut on DKS. at first i dint think it was working but Im realizing that i need to create a desktop/workspace before it can go to the next desktop. (i think that on other window it would just create one but it seems like on the current version the one im using now i have to manually create the window first...then i can go to next via. (DKS) that has the shortcut you listed.

[swift copper]

thanks for your replies, i managed to make it work for a bit then the macro stopped being trigger. Also i have a 60HE ISO french and wootomation only takes US ANSI input sadly :/ Can't bind properly * as trigger

[grizzled forum]

im not sure if this can work for you or not in regards of ISO francais 🙂
but i dont use wootomation but use wootility . I use advance keys. and select DKS and click and drag the key so it trigger on press.

[swift copper]

oooooh ! Cleaver 🙂

thank i will try that 👌

Works like a charm, thanks for the tips 😽

[tired rover]

I have been wondering about using wootomation.
For example

1. create a macro to enter "a" and "b
2. bind it to a certain key (in this case, let's say you bind it to "p")
   3．You press and hold "c" while pressing "p"

My expectation is that the order will depend on the timing, but "abcabcabcabc..." "acbacbacbacb..." "cabcabcabcab..." I expect that the order will be "abcabcabc...".

However, if you press "p" and then "abab..." and then press "c", it will be "ccccc...". and the macro ends up with "ccccc...".
Is there any possibility to fix this?

[desert python]

hello everyone, im tryng to set a macro thats activate with caps lock key

but it is still working as cxaps lock toggle

[knotty sapphire]

I'm not knowledgable enough to help, @pure salmon would know more but he's out at the moment. Hopefully he checks this later

[knotty sapphire]

I personally have not used caps lock as a trigger key. I don't think Wootomation overrides the caps lock toggle behaviour, so I would suggest using a different key or remapping to remove caps lock

[desert python]

I've tried also using tab key as trigger but it not working.

The fact though is that it seems to overrides it because when you set the macro half of the times when you pressed it the led indicator for capslock does not activate.

I don't know if it is a game limitation (i used in call of duty warzone 1 to do "slide cancel") but ive always use it with razer keyboard and it was working perfectly. Also should not be a limitation to use every key as macro im actually using this key since 3 yers ago. Ive also checked the video tutorial in yt but only talks about macro for typing some sentences. We actually need to emulate a combination of keys thats the main purpose of gamer specially whith such a high end keyboard

[knotty sapphire]

First off, we don't recommend using Wootomation in games because it is a software implementation.

I think what you want is hardware implementation, but that will take time to implement and has already been discussed before. Afaik it's not off the table, but it's certainly not a focus at the moment.

I don't know what a slide cancel is, but look into using DKS if it is simple. Otherwise we recommend to use something like AutoHotKey

[pure salmon]

the macro dispatcher gets the macro data as a stack

and then starts executing one by one with a set 1-10ms delay to allow linux and windows OS to catch up

so its like a queue

[desert python]

I don't get the difference between software and hardware implementation, there is no hardware implementation with other keywords but just an onboard memory where you can save profiles with macros linked to a specific key, a combination of buttons and deleys. Btw you can also use it with running software a no onboard memory. It is all done by a software no hardware changes.
What is DKS and AutoHotKey ??

Btw a macro could be also useful for programming, i honesty don't get this limitation again with such high end keyboard. Ive always set up the macros with razer huntsman mini and never had any issue why you could not do the same?

[desert python]

hello, so i find out that the macro its working fine, because when i open wootility, in advanced key, i can see that when i press the button where macro is associated, the combination of keys displays. so its okay, only thing is that it will not activate if press another time the key while the first combination did not end. and its perfectly fine. but the macro is not working during the game. everyone knows why??

[ruby raven]

Wooting openly says they don't recommend using Wootomation in games because of stuff like that. It isn't consistent, can be seen as an advantage, and could potentially risk getting you banned from whatever game you're trying to play

[native pike]

was there still plans to make the other activation modes? like for the macro only to work when the macro key is held down or as a toggle

[knotty sapphire]

It's definitely something we want to implement, but no eta

[visual girder]

is my macro broken

[tranquil crater]

what am i doing wrong here? i want it to type abc when i press mouse5

[ruby raven]

increase your execution times in each step. whatever word processor youre using may not be registering the inputs that quickly

[jolly dirge]

Is it possible to use Wootomation to macro Alt+4 as an Alt+F4? No matter how I try it, it never works. My 60HE arrived today and I'm trying to resolve the only function key I miss lol

ahh nvm. used advanced keys in wootility to make 4 into f4 on hold. we'll see how long it takes for that to mess me up lol

[knotty sapphire]

Nothing wrong, mouse 4 and 5 are a bit broken. It's a known issue

[knotty sapphire]

What do you mean by broken?

[keen orchid]

is it intended that the macros dont work when holding down another key?

[crude vale]

wootomation only working with basic profile?

[knotty sapphire]

Define basic profile? Not sure what you mean

[crude vale]

The first one

[visual girder]

do you need a wooting keyboard to use this?

[heady pollen]

No

[rocky raven]

anyway to decrease sensitivity to only the spacebar? seems like im not even touching it in val and im just hopping randomly

[knotty sapphire]

Doesn't seem like a Wootomation related question, but have you tried changing the actuation point of your spacebar?

[rocky raven]

How would I specify just the space at

[knotty sapphire]

By pressing the "Set per key actuation" button in Wootility and following the instructions in the pop-up

[rocky raven]

Thanks man

[restive pivot]

is there a setting in Wootomation where i can loop/repeat a macro?

[pure salmon]

not yet unfortunately

[visual girder]

can someone help me when i press a it should press d after release and the same for d so a gets presses after release

[knotty sapphire]

Doesn't seem like you are using Wootomation for this. Need more details, but I am assuming you are using DKS?

[crude vale]

Can use Wootomation with analog profile? not digital

[knotty sapphire]

Not really sure what the question means but,

All Wootomation does is perform a sequence of "events" when you press a certain key.

Afaik analog profiles do not change the key codes the keyboard sends to the OS, so yes you can

[thin nimbus]

uh, I'm not sure if it's a bug or what, but when using ripple, there are times one line won't complete the "trayectory" and get "eaten" by another one (I really don't know how to explain this so I'm gonna send a video showing what I mean in a moment

actually never mind, it's a feature, my bad.

well I mean not a feature but just how the RGB works

[shy lotus]

#📰│wootility_updates and find the version you use. post in there. This channel is for our macro utility

[visual girder]

hi guys why i cant save my macro and try it ?

[shy lotus]

no triggers

[undone dome]

Hey! I want to make a macro for typing a backslash for working in LaTeX because I use Azerty which doesn't allow me to type a backslash. I watched the Wootomation tutorial online and created this. When I press "ctrl =", however, nothing seems to happen... Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

(btw, I'm not using a wooting keyboard; I've tried this on my laptop keyboard and on my own custom keyboard. Neither seem to work)

[willow mirage]

known issue, https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-macros/issues/105

Medzernik said it's most likely something related to the library that's being used or Windows itself

[hallow bluff]

How do we create macros?

[undone dome]

I don't think this is necessarily the same as what I'm experiencing: I can put the Trigger Keys to "ctrl =", typing in QWERTY, and then reproduce it in AZERTY. My problem is that when I type the programmed Trigger Keys, nothing seems to appear, even though I am typing exactly what I gave up as the Trigger Keys.

[undone dome]

https://youtu.be/cvE-477TvQg

[willow mirage]

@pure salmon

[hallow bluff]

I craeted a macro that hits spacebar for me, but when I press the assigned button it still works, q is the assigned and i am able to type q while it shoot be pressing space

[undone dome]

Hey man, I'm not expert either; I just joined with a question about this very same software. I hope a mod will join us soon and help us out of our misery.

[hallow bluff]

ah okok hahahah

[pure salmon]

yes yes what 😄

[willow mirage]

i never really tried messing around with wootomation, so my knowledge is limited, sorry peeps

[willow mirage]

read above, layout issue?

[undone dome]

No problem. I'm glad you at least tried to help

[pure salmon]

yeah thats a library issue we have

due to the software handling of the macros

fixes for this are a bit difficult to get right on all platforms

[undone dome]

Ight, well I'll find another solution to my problem then. Thanks for you help, though! :)

[pure salmon]

sure thing ^_^

[warped peak]

is there a way to loop the sequence?

[warped peak]

does anyone have a simple auto clicker macro that they can send screen shot of?

[wide palm]

Well Skate Macro for any of my Destiny 2 Warlocks. 🧙‍♂️ Works on ~60+ fps. You can delete the first part of the sequence if you wanna start with your sword already equipped in hand.

[true juniper]

Nice one

[pure salmon]

not yet unfortunately

[dim marsh]

Hey guys, just downloaded wootomation to maske some macros but the app wont load? any one had this issue before, tried running as admin

[knotty sapphire]

On windows? Do you have a stripped down version of windows without WebView2?

[dim marsh]

@knotty sapphire yes I have debloated windows. Will install Web view later and report back! 🙂

[glad drift]

why is q not pressing when i press z

??????

i press z but q presses (intended) then z presses a second later (there is no delay) then q gets stuck even though i released z

[halcyon sigil]

hey guys i just installed Wootomation but the none of the macros i create are working i even tried to create simple ones just to test but for some reason they dont work

[dim marsh]

@knotty sapphire Hi, i downloaded and tried to install webview2 but it said it was already installed! i have, in the past debloated windows and dont have microsoft edge etc installed anymore, could the debloat have removed something that is required to run Wootomation? and if so do you have any idea what it could be? and/or any other known causes of this issue? 🙂 cheers

[knotty sapphire]

@pure salmon any ideas?

[dim marsh]

or... is there any other way for me to make my spacebar input repetedly over a short time (whilst holding the button) 😄 thats basically all i wana do

[knotty sapphire]

Need more info

What kind of macros, and are you trying to use them in games?

Can always look into AHK or other macro software

[dim marsh]

but at the moment, obviously i havent attempted to do it in game as i cant run the program to create the macro 😄 (have only ever used razer synapse so have no idea how this stuff works)

could look at other software but will it run as well as your own? 🙂

[pure salmon]

debloated windows can cause many issues as these tools remove anything without much thought to why they are there in the first place

so most likely, yes we had cases of this happening before

[dim marsh]

i see, have you any idea which components are required to run the software?

maybe i could download those specific things xD

[shy lotus]

webview2 as mentioned

[dim marsh]

its installed

already

[shy lotus]

idk what webview2 needs to run

if it needs anything even

[knotty sapphire]

Hmm, in that case (of holding down to repeat a key) Wootomation wouldn't be useful since it doesn't have that capability yet

Regrettably, this isn't something we spent much time with due to other priorities taking precedence

I strongly recommend using AHK or some other macro software at this time to achieve what you want

[dim marsh]

oh i see

well then, thats fine! no problem!

i trust there will be updates when the software is fleshed out! im sorry to waste ur time guys

[fallow juniper]

Is it possible to get the input for 7 when pressing something 2 times

like i press 3 2 times fast and it inputs a 7

[true juniper]

What do you mean?

[cosmic silo]

i assume they mean a double tap of one key in rapid succession that would result in a certain output/Trigger

[thin shard]

Hi...I want to create a new macro (my first one) - I would like to open windows setting -> mouse settings -> Reduce the sensitivity from 10 to 3 and then another one to change the sensitivity back from 3 to 10.
Q1 - Is this a correct example of a macro command?
Q2 - How to go about doing it, any guides - even the Wooting official video seems to be for people who know what they're doing.
Appreciate the help...

[drowsy mango]

Hi so I just recently got my wooting keyboard and I'm wondering if you can set up a shortcut to join a specific discord voice channel using wootomation? For example I previously had a logitech keyboard where I had it set up through their g hub application that when I press f9 I leave the discord call I'm in, f10-f12 are that I join specific discord voice channels.

[violet haven]

This could probably be done with the discord rpc api but it's a bit of a pain in the ass to setup. It's what Logitech uses for that feature. It's a closed down api by discord though unfortunately

[drowsy mango]

so you are basically not able to do it since it's not possible to get access to it? :/

[violet haven]

You can get around that limitation but each user needs to make their own discord "app" in the developer dashboard.

[drowsy mango]

that sounds like a bigger pain in the ass than its worth it xD

[crude berry]

we use rpc and not grpc

[half swan]

Just be a bit naughty and steal another verified app's token, what could possibly go wrong

[bleak forge]

wootomation's macro is not sending proper key code, but sending some unkown keycode that my game wouldn't accept but in text it do shows as the proper key. and even if the key is setting at 1ms to repeat a full press it wouldn't faster than 33ms ish.
also while the trigger keys is holding down it some how also shows up with the macro.
is it possible to change these problem?
any other ways to rapid spam a key like turbo mode in steam controller?(rapid full press a key in very short amount of time)

http://stereopsis.com/keyrepeat/
https://javascript.info/keyboard-events#keydown-and-keyup
for someone who interesting these issues, these are the websites i use to test the key and macro.

[violet haven]

I had this working for Steelseries, razer, and Logitech's tokens but figured telling users to make their own app would be less trouble for me...

[fallow juniper]

exactly

[past flame]

Is it possible to rebind a key to a specific uppercase key?
An other question I would like to do a rapidfire "macro" (what I mean is maintain a key press and the key down/up is send repeatedly to not have to spam some QTE on games) ?

[shy lotus]

well wootomation specifically states that Please do be aware that this application does grab and analyze keystrokes. While you are able to disable this temporarily using an appropriate function, you should still not have this application running alongside games (use at your own risk!). Macros (depending on how you configure them) are considered cheating. so use at your own risk

for the specific uppercase you dont need wootomation for that just DKS. And then just make dks press shift and letter together.

[still smelt]

is there a way to force stop macros they seem to keep going even after i turn them off

[grizzled forum]

Stop wootamation software?

[still smelt]

ye was just wondering if there was another way to do it thanks

[knotty sapphire]

Can you clarify what you mean by turn them off? Are you disabling them using the toggle per macro? or the toggle for the entire app?

[still smelt]

I tried to turn them off via the switch in the app tried to just close the program that didn't work either only thing I found that worked was shutting it down via task manager

[knotty sapphire]

Hmm, that is odd since the switches work for me, both the "whole app" switch and individual macro switches as seen below

Unfortunately I don't have an answer, but maybe David would know something

[peak gust]

Is there any way to turn on and off a macro collection with a keyboard key?

[knotty sapphire]

Not atm, but I do like the idea of being able to also set a shortcut to disable individual collections, or the whole app itself

individual macros though, that might be a bit much

[peak gust]

Really hope you could add this. Also would be great to be able to select if a collection was on or off when you start Wootomation.

[pseudo oriole]

My current plan is to color code my RGB lighting for my wooting when it comes in. Am I correct in thinking that the lights will glow under the keys I selected and get brighter as I click or "touch" them?

[prisma galleon]

Touch?

touch is to show you how far deep a key is pressed (it shows on your F keys, F1 to F12)

maybe you're thinking of Trail
also, wrong channel for this, Wootomation is a macro software, and we're talking about Wootility

[pseudo oriole]

Thank you, and thank you for the correction 👍🏽

[dim marsh]

Hey guys, just trying to get my head around the macro app, is it just me or am i not seeing a way to make a loop macro?

What i want to do is,

Hold space bar > Spam space bar repetedly to Bhop.

Any one wana help? 😄

sorry to be clear, i want a macro to spam the space bar (whilst i hold it)

[ruby raven]

iirc Wooting mentions that they don't really support using Wootomation in games because of issues that can arise from stuff like that

Please do be aware that this application does grab and analyze keystrokes. While you are able to disable this temporarily using an appropriate function, you should still not have this application running alongside games (use at your own risk!). Macros (depending on how you configure them) are considered cheating.

[shy lotus]

we wont actively jump out to implement support just so it does some certain ingame things correct

usually macros in games are considered cheating

and just because most people dont get caught doesnt mean its allowed

[zenith valley]

actually it's ALWAYS considered cheating, because it involves unsupported 3rd party software

however, i have a few requests and a bug i've encountered

i'll show you a video to see the issue

[shy lotus]

well i dont wanna go out and make such a statement incase someone finds those few unknown games that dont disallow macros in their ToS/EULA at all

[zenith valley]

wow xD 1 ms delays with space only macro's so freaking broken

check this out, @shy lotus

it basically goes into an endless loop that way

literally installed a few mins ago and already encountered that funny stuff

[shy lotus]

why do you put so many spaces in the macro

just 1 space and 1ms delay should be enough

[zenith valley]

i did, the rest suddenly added itself

[knotty sapphire]

It's not really a bug, more like a consequence of the implementation.

The space being outputted triggers the macro again

[visual girder]

Does this only work with US layout?

Im using German layout but when pressing keys to set a macro it recognizes the keys as if I was using US layout.

[zenith valley]

well, there's an easy solution to it by implementing an internal counter. I.e. i've programmed 3 space inputs, so the software only executes 3 inputs and turns that macro off till i decide to run it again

well, not really off, but more on standby

and the requests i have:
• marking several programmed macros at once would be nice
• pls add a general delay dial to it (i.e. if i choose a macro and add a delay to it there should be an option to add a general delay to each input rather than dialing each input manually by hand rn)

[knotty sapphire]

All good suggestions. Hopefully in the future we have time to spend on Wootomation again

[zenith valley]

another suggestion would be an additional option when to run a macro. Like lifting the key, pressing it down, shall it be executed once, x amount of times, etc.

[dim marsh]

@ruby raven sorry I've been away for a few days, and yeah I do believe macro software is generally a breach of most games ToS.

However I don't think wooting need to worry about that, it's up to the user if they want to run the risk or not,

I just wanted to create a simple 'activate while button held' macro to just press the space bar for me every .5 seconds if I keep it held down.

It's not something I can't do myself.. just easier on the thumbs to let a macro do it for me. Simple little bunnyhop macro for Apex legends.

Been playing apex since day 1 with a bhop macro, finished the last 7 ranked in the top 500 - 600s. Never been banned or anything (even though it's against ToS) the vast majority of players use some kind of config, script or macro in the game so...

Anyway kinda disappointed that it's not a feature in the wootomation software.

Have you any idea weather they plan to implement this feature at some point?

[ruby raven]

Been playing apex since day 1 with a bhop macro
Just because you've used it without repercussion doesn't mean it is allowed

It's not something I can't do myself.. just easier on the thumbs to let a macro do it for me.
By definition, that's what a macro is; typically games have a 1:1 actions per input rule that makes automation like this disallowed

even though it's against ToS
This is why wooting won't implement features like this into their software

I very highly doubt they will ever add any sort of implementation catered towards using automation software in a competitive game

You already got the best keyboard on the market in terms of gaining a competitive edge lol

[zenith valley]

There's nothing to doubt about that. It simply won't happen, ever, period.

That's what competitive gaming is about. It's about the skill of an individual player, not how well he/she can run a macro

Or to say it simple: If it's humanly not possible it shouldn't be allowed to begin with

things like DKS i.e. get you banned from several competitive environments too. Sure, it's humanly possible, but what if you add something like a C to your space bar with DKS, achieving an ez Superglide this way?

but yeah, anyways, fact is that macroing isn't allowed. Same goes for Speedruns. There's a reason why real speedruns by humans and TAS have seperate leader boards

[dim marsh]

@ruby raven Yes, as an adult I understand that using it without being punished doesn't mean it's allowed.

In this case no one will be banned from Apex for running a cfg or a macro for any movement related inputs. As like. 90% of the player base use them openly however that's beside the point.

It's only my humble opinion. But I think it's a useful feature to add.. there are other features in the wootility software that make the impossible possible lol.

Just find it weird and strange that it's never going to be added? What happens if one of these big crappy companies like Razer get their own rapid trigger working as well as wooting and also have the software to run macros? Isn't that potentially going to take a lot of customers away from wooting?

@zenith valley like dks.. you can set a single button to super glide. You can change the actuation points of 2 buttons to super glide..

Something which (if you were to do it urself) at 180 fps would require you to have in human timing... down to a single frame

It's not humanly possible to consistently super glide without a macro.. cfg or config.

How is it any different lol

I can't take my wooting keyboard to a comp. And use dks so 1 button advanced movement tech like lurch strafing

I don't see the difference tbh..

I also don't want wooting to lose customers to the dicks at Razer because of their (admirable) morals

[zenith valley]

uh... I'm doing it with C + Space Bar at a much higher FPS count

and i don't need any DKS, Macro or other crap for that

[dim marsh]

@zenith valley with which keyboard?

[zenith valley]

60HE

[dim marsh]

And ur actuation points?

[zenith valley]

0.1 space and 0.7 C

[dim marsh]

And how consistent are u at hitting that single frame timing without a wooting?

[zenith valley]

about 40-45%

[dim marsh]

There u go

U need a wooting. A macro. Or a cfg

[zenith valley]

[dim marsh]

And if ur hitting super glides at 40% above 180fps without anything else. You have amazing reflexes and timing.

As the window of opportunity is like. 5-6ms

[zenith valley]

Thing is that the Wooting is basically the next evolutionary step in terms of Keyboards while using a macro is basically automation, which means the action isn't executed by yourself but a program

that's the difference

[dim marsh]

Yeah. And so is changing the actuation points lol!

[zenith valley]

and cfg file changes result in a perm ban, you know that

[dim marsh]

You aren't doing the super glide.. the keyboard is doing it for u

No. I don't know that at all lol

[ruby raven]

This argument is pointless

You are welcomed to find other automation software that does what you want

[dim marsh]

I'm not arguing buddy. Utmost respect to both of u

[zenith valley]

Nope, i still do the inputs myself, that's the big difference

[dim marsh]

You press the buttons urself.. you don't do the timing

The actual skill. Is the keyboard. Not u

[ruby raven]

An exchange of diverging or opposite views

By definition, this is an argument

I'm just saying it won't accomplish or change anything

Wooting has said they aren't going to provide any solutions to unfair competitive advantages

[dim marsh]

They already do!

[ruby raven]

👍

[zenith valley]

By revolutionizing the industry? So did mechanical keyboards years ago

[ruby raven]

A keyboard with "overly sensitive triggers" is not the same as software that allows you to use >1 action per input

[dim marsh]

Nyumi JUST SAID

Without the wooting software. He can't hit super glides consistently without a wooting. And it's software.

The keyboard and it's switches aren't what make it possible

The changes of the actuation points is

[ruby raven]

The firmware 100% is

The fact that the software flashes the fw to the keyboard and can be closed means it's not a software solution

[zenith valley]

First of all i'm a woman, second is the fact that with enough practice you can execute these moves on a mechanical keyboard too. Look at Faide, he used to do superglides consistently on a plain simple mechanical keyboard too

[dim marsh]

Faide uses configs

It's not possible

You have a 5ms window to hit a super glide with nothing but ur keyboard

Faide uses the same configs I use lol

He uses angle snapping too

I don't mean to argue or offend. And apologies nyumi if you are offended at all. Not my intention

[ruby raven]

Your argument is basically "other people do it so wooting should make their software do it"

[dim marsh]

Yeah

[ruby raven]

That's a bad argument to have, you're asking a company to make their software break another company's ToS

[zenith valley]

just because other people jump off a bridge means you'd do the same, Danny?

[dim marsh]

Cus if they don't it's over as soon as soon As Razer has the rapid trigger and switches to rival wootings

[ruby raven]

You can say "other people offer it" but that isn't the point. They don't want to offer it

[dim marsh]

It's business c'mon man

[zenith valley]

lol, they don't

not even remotely

[ruby raven]

Competition is business too

[dim marsh]

People just buy what works the best. And ATM it's wooting

[ruby raven]

HyperX has recently made big upgrades to their keyboards

RT and custom actuation points, etc

ALMOST as good as wooting

almost

[dim marsh]

It's not even close man their rt.. like razers. Causes terrible cpu lag or somthig

[zenith valley]

o.o That's new for me, i knew SteelSeries was close, but HyperX?

[ruby raven]

steelseries*

i got them mixed up

[dim marsh]

Yeah the Apex keyboard

[ruby raven]

Pretty sure Wooting is still #1

[zenith valley]

i mean i came from an Apex Pro and there's a good reason i won't return to it

[ruby raven]

Wooting wins on almost every level lol

[dim marsh]

Well listen. I'm telling you (as a dick) as soon as some company makes a keyboard as good as wooting with the macro software that works better. I don't think I'll be using the wooting any more

[zenith valley]

even with the RT update it's simply not the same, Woot is by miles more precise

[ruby raven]

that works better
key words here

[dim marsh]

And I know it sounds like asshole thing to say.. but competitive gamers will always go with what's the best. So hopefully wooting will keep winning

[ruby raven]

Razer and Logitech have had macro software for years, and people still prefer Wooting

[dim marsh]

But how much better can they make the keyboard? Surely they need to compete with the software companies like Razer provide

[ruby raven]

Wooting's software is better, the hardware is better, the firmware is better, the functionality is better

[zenith valley]

Remind me again. How long did it take Razer and SteelSeries to implement RT while Wooting had it already?

[dim marsh]

@ruby raven I can only speak for myself.. the only reason I use a wooting ATM is for the switches and RT

If Razer released a kb tomorrow. That performs like the wooting but has the macro software. I'd have to buy it and use it

[ruby raven]

You should check out the Razer Huntsman v2 Mini or the Steelseries Apex Pro

[zenith valley]

Big Boss Tony in da house

[shy lotus]

if we purely talk about going to the company with the best macro software then AHK needs to start making keyboards.

[dim marsh]

@ruby raven bought it. It's bad. The rt causes major CPU lag or something

[ruby raven]

damn thats crazy

[zenith valley]

absolutely agree

their shit's crazy

[dim marsh]

AHK. Macros work through a .exe file? I believe they are picked up by easy anti cheat

[shy lotus]

we will improve our macro software in the future its not abandoned. the main issue right now is this tiny small thing coming up called wooting 60he module and uwu

[shy lotus]

wanna know why games cant just do the same for your beloved examples of razer logitech and co?

cause your keyboard would only have half the features if you cant run the software

[dim marsh]

Yeah

[shy lotus]

i very much would love to see a future where any and all macro tools get you auto banned in games that disallow macros

[dim marsh]

But the customer (like me) doesn't care about that..

And tony I'm not saying that trying to be a dick. I'm just saying.. a lot of customers are like that.

[ruby raven]

The fact that what you're trying to do is break ToS should be reason enough to stop discussing the idea

[dim marsh]

And I agree! Ban all macros and cfgs

But untill they do.. I Wana use em

As others do. I want the competitive edge 😅

[shy lotus]

anyway tldr: we will improve, not now, we wont improve things just for games, its open source and people can contribute if they choose.

[shy lotus]

maybe buy some cheats

gives you a massive edge

[dim marsh]

I just use a bunny hop mqcro

And I'm in the top 0.1% of the playerbase

Don't need anything else

[zenith valley]

call me old school, but macros and file changes to get a competitive advantage should be just as punishable as cheats

[dim marsh]

Just so my thumb doesn't hurt.. I want a bhop macro

@zenith valley cmoooon nyumi! You would have to practice ur super glides for a month on each ledge

[ruby raven]

Solution: stop bhopping

[dim marsh]

If u didn't have the wooting

[shy lotus]

also can we move the what should get you banned and what not discussion to #🎮│game

[zenith valley]

idgaf, i've practiced my QS in 1.5, 1.6, Source and Go for YEARS to perfect it

[dim marsh]

Understood

@zenith valley I know I know but. The wooting already is basically cheating for movement players in Apex hehe.. a bhop macro isn't gonna hurt any 1

Dks can give you a perfect. Spammable ras strafe

With 1 button

[ruby raven]

You probably won't have much success in trying to sway us to your side of this argument, my guy

[zenith valley]

dude, i'm not pred and i can do my bhops just fine using the space bar without any macros

practice makes master

[shy lotus]

we are actually trying to get in touch with esl and other esports orgs to figure out a way for tournament legal firmware and normal use firmware

[dim marsh]

Yeah but it's not comfortable

[shy lotus]

so things like dks, macros etc arent available in tournaments

[zenith valley]

need a contact? I can get you in touch with Citrus

[ruby raven]

this would be so absolutely amazing

a tournament mode of some kind would be awesome

[dim marsh]

Yeah. I would agree... I'd assume the organisers will prohibit any software for the boards and mice

[shy lotus]

correct but since we also want to introduce some limited form of keyboard macros we need to make sure our keyboards stay usable in tournaments

[ruby raven]

well DKS can be done firmware side, so it's deeper than just prohibiting macro software

[shy lotus]

and most likely this means 1 action per key

even if dks sort of isnt just a straight up key press but sort of relying on depth of press

[zenith valley]

that's why Tony said tournament viable firmware

[shy lotus]

but yeah this is all future dreams

[shy lotus]

just uh email us at the usual email and ask if we need a contact for this whole tournament firmware idea

then we can route it internally

[zenith valley]

u srs?

[shy lotus]

yes cause idk if the people who talk to the orgs have the contacts or not

[zenith valley]

ok, fine

https://tenor.com/view/judging-stare-bored-dont-you-dare-annoyed-gif-22904796

[shy lotus]

we sadly already reached a size where we cant all know everything

we do regular meetings to sort of keep up to date but well details usually dont get brought up

[zenith valley]

i'll talk to Citrus, but i highly doubt it will result in anything since competitors like Ss, Logi and Razer don't give a shit about such a thing in the competitive environment

but if they're interested in it they'll contact you instead

[shy lotus]

also good

and yeah we are aware they dont care

but well our whole moto is challenge the industry

and we will die on that hill

[zenith valley]

as said, i can only talk to them and forward the idea, but doubt that anything like this will happen

[shy lotus]

its fine if not

trying is the important part

[zenith valley]

lemme die with you

[dim marsh]

This is what I've been saying. I'm not trying to sway you guys or get you on my band wagon.

But the existing features of the wooting make the impossible possible in Apex legends. They remove the need for cfgs and macros in most cases.

Like the dks. I can make 1 button create perfect ras strafe inputs.. faster than is humanly possible.

The dks is honestly better than any macro or config..

I just want to hold a button that is going to spam jump for me lol... this is no where near as game changing as 'changing actuation points for perfect superglides. Or 1 button ras strafing.

So what I'm trying to say is.. adding a 'activate macro whilst button held' isn't gonna do anything that you can't already do with the wooting (for Apex legends at least) other than adding a feature to spam a button ofc.

But thanks for the chat guys. And once again Nyumi, absolutely no offense intended tonight. I hope you weren't!

[zenith valley]

[dim marsh]

Night guys. Sleep well

[zenith valley]

anyways, @shy lotus is Wootomation seriously OS?

[shy lotus]

yes check channel description

its all bare and open

[zenith valley]

i'll look into it and see what i can contribute to or improve upon

coded in?

[shy lotus]

the only things we wont open source is our backend, firmware and probably wootility

[shy lotus]

rust

[zenith valley]

If it would've been C++, i would've given you a fully functional and advanced version by tomorrow

but rust requires me to learn everything again

[shy lotus]

well c++ and cross platform are a nightmare

not to mention memory safety with something as flexible and user configurable as a macro software

[zenith valley]

fine... I'll see what i can do

maybe it ain't as annoying as it once was

[knotty sapphire]

keep in mind that we had 3 months part time to get something working so there's definitely a lot that can be improved on

[true juniper]

Rust is SO GOOD

[dim marsh]

Would be happy to contribute £100 to any one who wants to help improve the macro software for wooting 😄 (if thats allowed)

[zenith valley]

i'll make it anti cheat detectable, how about that?

so every time you run Wootomation in any game it immediately gets detected

[true juniper]

Wym by contributr

[zenith valley]

He wants it to be more sophisticated to use, so he can use it in games

as said before, i'll look into rust and make sure it's going to be detected by EVERY anti cheat

[true juniper]

Oki, rust is piss easy tho

[shy lotus]

you can do whatever you want with your money but we will still have the last word in what gets merged into it and what wont

[ruby raven]

i fully understand the desire for the feature he is requesting; i also just hate the reason he's requesting it, because it's also viable for other things and he just wants it for cheating

[exotic arrow]

I saw an article the other day talking about how a few pros are using the wooting already. I think it was TenZ and Zekken.

Really cool the wootomation is open source tho. I'm switching from being a long term razer user and I have a little experience with their macro setup. I know you can set up per game macros.

Would it be too hard to implement rules into the firmware stopping ppl from making specific macros in specific competitive games? That way you can avoid enabling ppl to break tos?

This way ppl continue to buy your product because it's better than the rest, but can't abuse it in competition and if it's baked into the base firmware, could potentially negate the need for a separate comp fw.

[true juniper]

Wootomation is not part of wooting

It can be used on any hardware

[shy lotus]

the firmware doesnt know what game your playing and it cant know. this requires software on the pc.

[vale copper]

Hi all, is there any method to get a macro to trigger when pressing a key on a function layer? Wootomation seems to not recognise Fn1 as a key

[shy lotus]

because fn1 isnt an actual key your computer can see at all

you need to map an actual key to the fn layer and then fn1+whatever key you mapped

[vale copper]

Is there a way to get a macro to trigger if you hold a key for a second? I'm just having some trouble finding a macro combination that doesn't inadvertently trigger a function or shortcut in notepad and I can't press many keys at once due to an injury. Apologies if I've missed or misread anything

[shy lotus]

f13-f24

[vale copper]

I'd tried this earlier and then forgotten to save the keyboard config. Thank you so much for your help

[true juniper]

Exactly what I've done since I have found it, bit before it went public and have perfected it that I hope I won't have to use my dks for it

[dim marsh]

@true juniper hey. Nice one!

Played around with dks for the first time yesterday and it's pretty easy to set a single key for superglides if u need any help.

I just made space bar the superglide key lol. Super op tbh. Far superior to a config / macro bind for superglides.

As for the macros. I hope improvements are made to the macro software as a product the wooting is amazing

Just lacking a 'play macro whilst button held' function then it would all be perfect for me

[true juniper]

Play macro whilst button held can easily be done inside ahk if you know how to code in it

Other than that, it shouldn't be hard to code in rust.

Also superglide dks might be superior but requires a lot of timings

I have recreated DKS in AutoHotkey program and is almost the same speed

[dim marsh]

Have sent you a quick dm for some advice if you don't mind ☺️

[past lotus]

Hello, when will the official email be answered?

[true juniper]

Yes you can but it is easier to use autohotkey

As it allows you to do run while pressed, while wootomation still doesn't have that feature

[past lotus]

Hello, I would like to ask when I can process my purchase and shelve the order to be refunded. The speed is really too slow, which concerns whether I can continue to purchase more products

[desert spruce]

how do i delete the existing profiles/make the typing and my custom fps profile as default? it keeps resetting when i boot up my pc

[sturdy turtle]

A few weeks ago i set up a typing profil with a few markos for latex. Back then it worked, now it does not anymore. It seems like Wootomation does not work anymore in generall. I tryed a few basic makros but also they are not working. When i add a new marko and hit the record button everything works fine. But if i then want to use the makro it simply does not work. Even simple makros like F24-> paste{test} do not work anymore but while hitting record the F24 key is being registered. Someone encoutering the same problem or having a fix for it?

[sturdy turtle]

When i move a profil into the inactive section i am able to delete it. Make sure to safe your config to the keyboard after the change.

[pure salmon]

This is a channel for the Wootility project, I think it's better if you make a post in #1019755933959733258

[sharp yew]

I'm new to the software, but I'm unable to get any basic combination of bindings to work in testing. None of the triggers I set up seem to do anything.

I haven't checked the repo yet, but I was curious if there's any verbosity or debugging type of logging I can enable to see if I can pinpoint the issue. Regardless, I'm thinking AHK might be a better fit for my needs personally anyway as most of my macros are executed over a Symless Synergy KVM into some debian flavors of linux or MacOS.

[cosmic otter]

How do I loop a macro

[prisma galleon]

i think you currently cant, if there wasn't an update for it

[true juniper]

Not at this moment sadly

[bold lotus]

do I always need to have wootomation open for my macros to be ready?

[heady pollen]

Yes. It's not wooting keyboard dependent at all

[potent night]

does wootomation work on mac? and which would be the correct download? pd : im kinda new to mac too so ye

[shy lotus]

no macos version

one day in the future maybe

[pure salmon]

its planned for the future

[potent night]

Okok tyty

[pure quarry]

Hello everyone,
Does anyone knows if it would be possible to have Discord integration into Wootomation ?

Like functions to mute mic / mute sound [...]

My goal is to use the A1 key to mute microphone (and like put red when the mic is muted and remove color when the mic is working)

[pure quarry]

Nevermind, just found that I can use Artemis RGB for this

[shy lotus]

also easier way is usually just setting a key to f23 or such and then binding that in discord as the mute key

also A1 itself isnt a recognized key that the PC receives

[pure salmon]

I looked into this a while ago, the issue is that Discord doesn't have an official API for this and the system is invite-only for companies

[shy lotus]

i think usually people get asked to setup their own bot and input some values to make it work

[pure quarry]

Is there any way to script inside wootomation ? like make plugins or anything

It would be very interesting for me to make custom scripts / API calls

This way I think I could do anything without installing Artemis RGB, I made a feature req for that: https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-macros/issues/170

[shy lotus]

i mean at that point use AHK?

[pure salmon]

the system is plugin based but there are no APIs for developers, they have to be hardcoded in and present (no dynamic loading and such)

[pure quarry]

Ooh okay I see, thank you 🙂

[livid coral]

Is there a way to delay all actions on a single key by x ms?

for example, i want to try a voice changer in a game that has push to talk, however its pretty advanced and uses AI with cuda cores, so its about 400 ms delayed. using G key for push to talk so i would need all actions on G key with 400 ms delay

[misty river]

yo, i just got my wooting two he keyboard and was wondering if there are some must haves/do's that you recommend to do in the software

[prisma galleon]

wrong chat but it's okay
customize your keyboard to your heart's feeling
and if you plan on gaming, Yuki's guide on 60HE applies for 2HE as well (except the lack of keys which we don't have - superior size)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IQig1jLqvVp2a7FTc8-uW-5734d514NBCSHCBlpgkv8/edit
https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1106981778117365790

[livid plinth]

is there any way i could get a macro to run indefinitly

cause if there is im just dumb lol

[fathom nimbus]

there a way to make a bind loop the sequence?

[true juniper]

No

[dim marsh]

@fathom nimbus unfortunately not at this moment. There have been some conflicting comments I've seen as to weather or not this feature will ever be added.

But I'm hoping it will be as there's no real reason it shouldn't be.

(I'm saying that with no actual knowledge on how things like that are coded/integrated into the software!)

But keep your fingers crossed.

I asked the same thing and depending on what it is you are trying to do with a looped macro? there may be a work around!

[prisma galleon]

you guys can just use AHK at that point

[dim marsh]

Its not as simple as that if you have zero coding knowledge etc 😞 also, AHK has a high probability of a ban if the macro isn't '1 button x 1 action '

Or that is my understanding (for Apex legends at least)

@wet peak I maybe able to help you there if you still need it drop me a dm. 🙂

[honest locust]

why is it that my macro doesnt work? is there a seting i need to change?

[earnest bridge]

Wootomation falls under the same exact features and limitations as AHK.

Doing the same script on either is equally likely to be a bannable offense.

[ornate zephyr]

Does anyone know if they are working on a macro tool for the wootomation software? (lets say a macro should be done while space is fully pressed)

[shy lotus]

wootomation is a macro software

[ornate zephyr]

yeah sorry I ment the wootility but even in the wootomation there is no function where I´m able to start the macro on the botom of the key

[shy lotus]

you could just combin dks and wootomation

with dks you could set the second point to something like 3mm

put f13 as the key

and booom

at 3mm you key becomes f13

[grizzled forum]

is there a example of how to set up paste text wootamation ?
i set up a dks on a layer. it triggers the dsk...but my wootamation set up with those press shortcut dosnt paste a text i have input into wootamation

[visual girder]

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[shy lotus]

my man should we call an ambulance for you?

[prisma galleon]

🤔

[visual girder]

i had to restart my PC

It was reciting the entirety of the War and Peace and I was trying to ask how to stop it

how do i stop the macro

I couldnt even close the wootomation because it opened 100 other apps instead

[knotty sapphire]

Does your macro have the trigger key inside the sequence?

Also, I hope you used the paste text action instead of printing each character one by one 👀

[visual girder]

it doesn't, and it prints each character one by one because I can't paste into some apps

[queen junco]

just got a wooting 2 he and I'm struggling to make a macro that spams a key in 10ms intervals, can anyone help?

[queen junco]

this is on the video

but I can't seem to find it in the current version of wootomation

[prisma galleon]

there is no loop in Wootomation right now, you can try AHK - AutoHotKey

[snip]

[prisma willow]

I still can’t get over the name wooting

[muted badge]

is there still no way in wootomation to set the trigger key for a macro to one key?

like just left shift?

or is there a way so safe macros directly to the keyboard?

[pure salmon]

not yet

we are currently working hard on the UWU release to make sure things go smoothly

[zenith valley]

that's a dumb question tbh. Macros are usually achieved with 3rd party software outside the game. 3rd party software in use means you'll definitely get banned when caught

[prisma galleon]

if you're asking because you know you'd get banned with, let's say AHK, then

[dim marsh]

a polite answer to your question would be - Yes, in most games if you run macro's or scripts of any kind then you can potentially recieve a ban, the chances of recieving a ban would depend on the game, its detection methods and how much they 'care' about automation in their game.

you will find the line is blurred when it comes to this kind of topic, especially on this particular section of the discord. some people frown upon the use of a macro in games whilst thinking that using something like DKS (incredible btw) in the game is totally fine 🤣

[shy lotus]

well there is a debate to be had about dks being not a macro

as depth of press and direction play a role in what dks does

[dim marsh]

i would say DKS is like, the next evolutionary step 😄 in a way, for me its one of the best features for sure

[visual girder]

What does dks mean?

[prisma galleon]

dynamic key-stroke

[novel crown]

Is there a way to automatically switch to a specific Profile if you open a specific game?

[harsh flower]

https://github.com/ShayBox/Wooting-Profile-Switcher

i believe the dev is waiting for the stable release of wootility to finish the current update though

[viral meteor]

Can someone please help me, i have created some macros on the wootomation app and when i hit the trigger keys it is not working. Anyone know why?

[versed owl]

Is there anyway to make macro repeatable?

[pure salmon]

not yet

[peak pagoda]

hey, i would like to make a macro to spell {\ss} out for me but im struggleiung with the \ ? Im on a iso german wooting 60 he.

[pure salmon]

try a double backslash

[soft ore]

hi all
need help macro anyone can help?

[bleak schooner]

How could I use the circled key as wootomation trigger key? it doesn't "record" properly, thus using different kb layout or something

[pure salmon]

it may be that it's a dead key on certain layouts like INTL US english and others

proper US layouts should support it without issue

although the backslash might be causing issues because of the way backslashes are interpreted, not sure if theres a special case for that in the code

but i'll definitely add this to the list as well

[bleak schooner]

I created quite simple macro for New World. It worked OK at first, but then I changed the duration of left click, and now the macros stopped working inside the game, and outside the game. Only trigger key outputs '999999' while it used to be '1rq1rq1rq..' before the change

[bleak schooner]

hmm alt-tab issue I guess

[cobalt saffron]

very good evening, I would like to know if someone can help me, I am looking to create a macro with pressed keys something like q-q-q-q
while I press and it is deactivated when I release! If anyone has a step-by-step video on how to create this macro, I would greatly appreciate it! ☺️

[bleak schooner]

do you mean you want the key staying pressed down even when you release it? Then this is for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30QC-9LlYb0#

[cobalt saffron]

Thank you very much for the video but in reality I would like the key not to remain pressed even when you release it but rather to only activate it when you press it and deactivate it when you release it

[visual girder]

Any reason that wootomation isn't working?
Macro is created but doesn't do anything when I press the trigger key

[visual girder]

Okay so I've set up a macro and it's enabled, I open a program, press my trigger and it responds with the macro. 1 time only. If I press the trigger key again, it does not work unless I reopen wootomation.

What am I doing wrong.....

[cerulean tundra]

guys any way to type this (ß)

i just copy pasted it

it's called eszett its a german caracter

I cant find it. I do know I have the spanish layout, but Im learning german and this fucks me up big time if I have to use it constanly as a copypasta

any way to fix it?

[ocean narwhal]

use a german layout

this is the iso german layout btw

just add it in your region and language settings

[cerulean tundra]

yeah but i have to switch everytime because i only lack the eszett

since I have the spanish layout

its a pain in the arse

isnt ther just a way to go like

shift+s

and it just popping there?

like i do on my phone? long press on s and its there

you know?

I can't find the caracter on wootility

I think they should add compatibility to like at least bind a caracter to something that you can just google

copy paste it there once, and it registers it. I know the coding but I cba doing all the process on a keyboard so advanced that it should have it.

If I bought the wooting is because it is a high end product. It should have this feature if it doesnt.

And i think it's really weird given the fact that our folks over at wooting thought of everything.

(or almost)

[ocean narwhal]

shift s is just an uppercase s?

[cerulean tundra]

It's obvious that it's not normal for someone to speak 5 languages, but

[cerulean tundra]

yes im wrong there i meant like

[ocean narwhal]

there probably is a way, but im not fully sure of it

[cerulean tundra]

fn+s

[ocean narwhal]

i cant really help all that much, i dont even have my kb yet

but there probably is a way

[cerulean tundra]

oh shit well its a banger, it took so long i decided to return it but they said it was actually shipped already so I waited even though I was pissed because they kept delaying my order. But I ensure you IT IS WORTH EVERY FUCKING PENNY

don't be an ape like me because I almost lost the opportunity because of patience

[ocean narwhal]

actually, you might be able to solve it using microsoft powertoys

let me check

[cerulean tundra]

yeah right? I thought I can but I cant find it

do I have to install it?

windows 11 searchbar is shit

[ocean narwhal]

yep! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/install
you have to use the "quick accents" feature, whilst holding down the key you have to press the activation button (i use space) and itll appear on the top of your screen!

[cerulean tundra]

goat.

okay I will return the favor my way

Add me on friends. And sometime you are lost and need guidance on a subject, ask me maybe that day I can return the favor.

[ocean narwhal]

no need to return anything, just glad i could help :D

[cerulean tundra]

literally dont care if you are female I just realised, don't be biased thinking im interested in you im literally not. This is how I behave with everyone, saying just In case, I'm a weird guy but not that way of being weird. That is just cringe if I may say

[ocean narwhal]

dont worry, i didnt misinterpret anything haha

[cerulean tundra]

ok

just in case you know well then its on you, I guess you have a good nature in the end just like me.

people these days corrupt pure people and they give them trust issues that is a fact. It is very hard to withstand the pressure of society and maintaining genuinity

[knotty sapphire]

Can you give more context about where you are trying to use the macro? e.g. are you using it in a game?

[visual girder]

Press mouse 4, it runs the action no problem. Try it again and it does nothing. If I close the application and rerun it, it'll allow me to run it once then stop working again.

[knotty sapphire]

1. Is this being used in a game?
2. Is it more consistent if you use a different button that isn't a mouse button?

[visual girder]

Both in game and in discord and note pad, all the same effect.
Tried to bind the trigger key to C and it did the same thing.

[knotty sapphire]

For the first 3 actions, keep them as key down, but for the last 3, can you make them key up?

[visual girder]

Ok

[visual girder]

Boom fixed

Didnt think you had to do releases as well

[visual girder]

Just doesnt seem to work in game though

Playing MW btw

[knotty sapphire]

Some games interfere with the input capturing. It's a limitation of software macros, or at least the implementation done in Wootomation right now

In the future we would like to improve Wootomation, as well as potentially have hardware macros, but no eta on that

If these 3 keys are all you need, perhaps try using DKS, an advanced key type that you can set in Wootility

[outer knot]

omg thank you, I didn't know about this

[visual girder]

Yeah only issue is you cannot set delays

For timing

@pure salmon Figuring this out has defeated me lol

Anyone else saying Wootomation doesn't work in game?

[pure salmon]

its entirely possbile as games outright grab direct input from system devices and or deliberately block input from other programs

its an anticheat/input consistency measure games use

bypassing that directly would be considered cheating

[visual girder]

Yeah never had any issues using macros like razer, glorious, etc.
Does Wootomation send inputs to the kb device for the program to use or the program itself it's interfacing with?

[pure salmon]

yeah because they are device based, wootomation sends the inputs software side

[visual girder]

how do i fully uninstall the wooting profile switcher?

[shy lotus]

?

we dont have a profile switcher

[gaunt crescent]

I heard there is a wooting profile switcher, where can I get it? I know it isnt "official" but frankly I am sick of needing to manually swap between so many profiles for different things (and needing to swap any time I alt tab to type)

[shy lotus]

i know of 1 or 2 but they can only switch the 4 onboard ones

[young trench]

he is talking about the wooting-lekker program I think?

[visual girder]

i meant this

but it’s all good

didn’t realise it wasn’t official

[harsh flower]

for reference things like that are usually findable through searching on google or github. thats how ive found a lot of the neat programs that are compatible with the wooting products

[cinder steeple]

is it possible that wootommation types a text?

Not that it just pastes it but rather types it

[pure salmon]

you could just spell it out in the macro

and that would get typed

[pure salmon]

any ones i should look at? 👀

[harsh flower]

pretty much everything ive found is linked in the awesome-wooting repo (https://github.com/WootingKb/awesome-wooting), besides the profile switcher

wait nvm im blind thats there too lmao

so yeah that repo is pretty nice

[wary saffron]

I'm trying to make a macro that presses Q and period when I press Q but it doesnt work at all, any idea what am I doing wrong? the same macro works on logitech

[pure salmon]

can you set the same key as a macro key? it would be recursive

thats why we disallowed it

[wary saffron]

Not sure what you mean, I got it to work but instead of "Q-PERIOD" when I press Q it does "PERIOD-Q-PERIOD"

[shy lotus]

because you still have q pressed

[lavish badge]

hey guys! what does DKS mean?

[shy lotus]

dynamic key stroke

its an advanced key

[lavish badge]

What does that do?

ah found vid

[graceful axle]

How can I make a hotkey that disables/re-enables the controller functionality?

[empty furnace]

make a key to switch profile i think

[graceful axle]

Ah, I meant completely disabling the controller so games don't think one is plugged in ^^

so basically this but in a hotkey

[empty furnace]

I dont know sry i never use this feature

[wide garden]

any clue why wootomation causes my pc to freeze?

[bold pine]

my macro doesnt work at all, pressed my trigger keys and nothing happened. Any ideas?
( trigger key is : C / I wanted my macro to keep repeating X when I hold C / tried changing trigger key, still didnt work )

[spiral crag]

Because it’s an interface that requires the keyboard to reboot and it affects all profiles, not just 1.

That said it is more convenient to turn it off and on quickly with a global hotkey similar to our reboot/teset

[graceful axle]

I guess my question then would be, how can I tell my wooting keyboard to reboot & disable the controller interface, without using the Wootility?

Like with a hotkey or a console command

[olive tinsel]

might know why, struggle with it myself. It will not trigger as long as wootamation is the focused application. AKA minimize wootamation and try the trigger key/combination again

[past lotus]

I need help.

[pearl elk]

boys can i add macro on my finalmouse sl-12 with wootomation?

[muted badge]

Tbh I don’t get it that there’s still no way to bind a macro to a single key, not a key combination. This could be fixed in an update within a couple weeks

[untold solstice]

Anybody have any tips on creating macros on wootomation? I’ve watched their video on YT, can cant seem to figure it out. I use LShift to aim In games, and I’m trying to have the LShift to engage another key when I hold it down, and disengage them both when I release but I can’t seem to set LShift as a trigger key?

[muted badge]

Doesn’t work. Exactly what I was talking about. You have to set a key combination as trigger. Single trigger key is not supported. Asked for this a couple months ago already. Only way to do this is through third party software like rewasd atm

[static spear]

how do i make a macro spam left click (or any button for that matter) and also make it togglable

[fringe shoal]

Has anyone else had issues with macros not working in game? I set one up to press “E, Space, Space” and it works while typing but doesn’t at all in game. Ik it’s not on the games end either because the same macro works just fine on my mouse

[harsh flower]

from what i have seen the wootomation devs say, it sometimes just doesnt work with some games due to how it sends inputs. by "same macro works just fine on my mouse" i assume you mean using razer or logitech software or something similar, correct?

razer and logitech software send inputs in a different way if i remember correctly

[fringe shoal]

Glorious but yeah. Shoulda done more research before dropping so much on a new board ig

[harsh flower]

i have seen the wootomation devs seeming to be occasionally hinting at a revamp so stay tuned 🙂

[fringe shoal]

It’ll be collecting dust till then. I appreciate your quick response man

[harsh flower]

it came with a zipper case, right? 😛 stick it in there

then the case can collect the dust instead

[fringe shoal]

Damn you got a zipper case? I just got a cardboard case that wasn’t even in a box. Just put in a bag 😭

[harsh flower]

oh lordy i forgot i spent $30 extra to get the zipper thing im referencing 😅

[shy lotus]

for 3 buttons you can use DKS

not that we will go out of our way to specifically fix issues only games exhibit

[shy lotus]

theres a dustcover included unless people throw it away

anyway macros are a topic we havent conclusively determined yet due to many factors mainly esports where we arent even sure how esports organizers take stance against macros or not

[static spear]

can someone please tell me how to loop macros and make them togglable

[lavish badge]

Hey I have a Question 🙋🏼‍♂️
So I wanted to play Isaac with my sooting, I also flipped keys so I have the arrow keys. But now when I hold (taaaaaaaaaaaaaaap) it taps only one time (tap) but I want it to go like perma tap (tap-tap-tap-tap-tap-tap-tap)
How do I change this?

[fringe shoal]

so what games do your macros work on? Ive tested 3 games and they dont work

[shy lotus]

we dont test it on games as its against ToS

of basically all games

[fringe shoal]

so yall made macro software for a gaming keyboard for usage outside of games? im so confused

[shy lotus]

no we made an all purpose macro software that works with any keyboard for usage anywhere. if inputs are accepted or auto voided is the applications decision. if you get banned or not is also said applications/developers decision.

Gaming devices often come with macro software that is embedded in their bloatware, sucking you into their ecosystem. And while they're at it sprinkle it with borderline spyware and unnecessary drivers that can cause issues with other devices.

Alternative macro software is either paid, outdated, not optimized for performance, or complicated to understand.

We made Wootomation as a go-to macro application for normal people. It's low on pc resources, adds near zero delay (0.002ms/2μs), and device/brand independent. Enjoy.

from the website

i think david already mentioned something about improvements to the system of how macros are processed which may improve compatiblity with games but its currently not a focus

[fringe shoal]

Yeah im not getting my hopes up since ive seen old reddit posts discussing common issues from years ago that still havent been added. Also all of the macros I tested were macro friendly games, its definitely not on their end

[shy lotus]

years ago?

wootomation isnt that old

would you mind linking that post?

[fringe shoal]

must have been with the wootility site people were requesting things then idk

[shy lotus]

could have been about DKS which is 4 key pressed in 1 keypress depending on keypress depth and direction.

(also something we arent sure how tournament legal it is)

[fringe shoal]

well you already have that so whats holding yall back

[shy lotus]

talking with esports orgs on whats allowed and what isnt and how to solve things we want to make but also have our keyboards be legal for tournament use

for example maybe something like a tournament mode where macros, dks and such dont work

sort of a lot of politics basically

not even sure if i explain it in a way thats easy to follow and understand

tl;dr: we want to but cant right now

[lone lark]

do i have to enable sqomething wiith the wootomation ? The macro does not seems to work

[meager saddle]

Can i toggle FN1 like that?

or how could i do that? would like to toggle it instead of continously pressing it

[glass arch]

is there a way i can use wootomation with the qwertz layout?

[pure salmon]

it should work with the layout you have, wootomation should load the layout when its started

[glass arch]

but when im pressing z it writes y

[red topaz]

same here

[graceful axle]

Hey, there's a phishing post here. @soft rock @cosmic silo
That link leads to a different domain than it might look at first glance.

although the link that it leads to 404's

(also I don't know who I should ping for this, sorry if I pinged the wrong people)

[shy lotus]

can you dm me the link it redirected to?

[graceful axle]

👍

[ornate zephyr]

Is it posible to set a mouse whele down input in wootomation

[static spear]

how do i make a macro spam left click (or any button for that matter) and also make it togglable

[lavish matrix]

I can make macros that work the way I want to. I have a problem that it does not work when in a game. Anyone know why ?

[red topaz]

<@&375234916776017933> is wootomation broken?
because its not working for all of us

[static spear]

damn wootomation is bugged?

[sonic hound]

Anyone familiar with how dks works?

I want to adjust the second keystroke actuation point lower than 3.6

[subtle sand]

Can’t adjust second and third keystroke. Only 1st and last

[sonic hound]

do you know how I could make a bind that does a jump then crouch 1 frame apart

right now with dks sometimes it is either too fast or too slow in the frame because the press to too long

most keyboards do this at 2mm so 3.2 -3.6 is too much gap

[dim marsh]

Bingo 😁

The macro software is useless if you are wanting to use it for gaming.

Depending on what it is you want to do there are some work arounds using DKS (basically a macro lol)

If you want help give me a shout and if it's something really simple like e,space,space we can do that with DKS. It's not ideal I know but it's the best option available to us ATM.

Big hopes for a wootomation update one day as it is not fit for purpose really.

Anyway give me a shout if u need a hand setting up.

Ps, what game you playing?

@static spear can't loop macros ATM dude

@sonic hound hey man drop me a message I can help you there.

Is it for superglides? I have my space bar set up on dks so it's a superglide button! Can also use it as normal to climb etc

[dim marsh]

Tournament mode would be awesome! (If it means I can loop a macro )

[static spear]

damn

[warm rover]

Anyone have any idea of how to do mic mute hotkey/macro for a wooting if possible?

[shy lotus]

set a mic mute hotekey in app and hen use dks to push that hotkey done

[warm rover]

Thank you, this was a great idea.

Any idea if there is plans to add a Windows wide mute function that other keyboards utilize? (for my workset my logitech mx keys mini has a Windows system wide mute function)

[shy lotus]

im not sure as that would involve muting and unmuting all microphones comnected/detected

or well setting their volume to 0 as windows doesnt really have a concept of mute mic

i guess a device disable/enable dance would work as well

[placid ferry]

can someone please explain me this. i am a total noob.i wanna setup the mic mute hotkey as well

[shy lotus]

go into discord settings or whatever program you wanna be muted in. set a hitkey for microphone mute/unmute and done

[frozen rune]

can i have multiple trigger keys? one to start it and one to stop it?

if so, how do i set that up?

[pure salmon]

not yet, although that does sound interesting

[frozen rune]

i was surprised it didn't exist.. also, when the macro "finishes" the program tends to glitch and randomly move me in all different kinds of directions so i end up force quitting the application

[pure salmon]

thats a bit weird

what macro do you have?

[frozen rune]

It uses the keys D,A,W and it repeats itself for a long time but even if I close the application it tends to just turn itself back on lol

I also think it would be interesting to have a “repeat” option instead of having to duplicate the keys over and over again

Unless I didn’t look hard enough lol

[pure salmon]

is it closed or just minimised?

[frozen rune]

Fully closed

[pure salmon]

yeah im trying to figure out how to put that in the current architecture

been working a bit on wootomation the past few days

i can spoil that it now works in games, but theres gonna be a big UI warning for that as well

[pure salmon]

these strange edge cases - i've been trying to hunt all of them down. i've forked the library we use for key grabbing and did a lot of PR merging that never happens upstream + did my own fixes, should be more robust

either way, the backend is now under our developement so longer-ish term it should be better

[modern bloom]

anyone able to create a macro that will change audio sources?

[pure salmon]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

i'll take a look at the possibility of this tommorow, but make no promises in 1.1

i want to get loop macros in first, tommorow

[old cliff]

Is it possible to add random delay with macros on wooting keyboards?

[pure salmon]

why would you want that

[molten tree]

So I have a wooting 60he and I can't get wootimation to run any macro whatsoever

collections all seem to be enabled

[visual girder]

To evade detection obviously

[dark wind]

Is there any capability / possibility of adding a toggle mute for system voice input? I see there's one for system output but I would love to toggle a mute or disable the mic as a bind.

I have several mics / headsets that run into the issue of the physical mute button not working. Having different keybinds for different voice software is highly inconvenient. If wootomationhad this feature, I would use it 100% daily.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165989418788737094/1174474443465183323/image.png?ex=6567b990&is=65554490&hm=c69cd2fbfc8add4c9b6354a4268f51f1e5a1dce8382722ccc6be516d1b9df03c&

[pure salmon]

right. so then thats precisely why we'll never add that as a feature then

[pure salmon]

many ideas for that, will investigate but thats i think something that would come a bit later

requires some deeper system integration beyond the scope of wootility

[old cliff]

Main reason was to randomise movements but that would be an added bonus

Isn't the software/driver open source anyways?

[pure salmon]

its GPL3

[old cliff]

So random delay is possible then

[shy lotus]

you can also just use AHK at that point

[old cliff]

Doesn't that use windows API to do synthetic input rather than wooting hardware based input?

[golden stag]

so I was looking to add a macro for my keyboard that just does scroll down, but i'm not seeing a place to do that, theres other options but not that. Does anyone know how I would go about doing that?

[shy lotus]

wootomation isnt running on the hardware

it uses OS apis

[old cliff]

Back to ahk then 💀🔥🤣

Ty for the heads up tho

[urban sand]

why I cant download wootomation? error 2503 and 2502

windows 10

[sweet swift]

Hello,
I'm trying to set up NEO layout Layer 3 using Wootility + Wootomation.
In Wootility I wanted to set "Capslock" to be an uncommon modifier like "Ctrl+Shift+Alt" and then use Wootomation to paste the characters I need.

Some of the issues I ran into:

• Ctrl+Shift+Alt as a modifier doesn't work (seems like anything including Alt doesn't)
• Ctrl+Shift works, but it double pastes characters. So instead of "…" I get "……"
• When using another key as modifier, like "Pause", it works for the most part, but as soon as I add "Pause + V" it breaks everything.

This is what I'm trying to do:
=== NEO Layer 1 (Already working via Wootility) ===
┌───┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬──────┐
│ ˆ │1│2│3│4│5│6│7│8│9│0│-││ Back │
├───┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬─────┤
│Tab⇥│x│v│l│c│w│k│h│g│f│q│ß│´│ Ret │
├────┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴─┐ │
│ M3 │u│i│a│e│o│s│n│r│t│d│y│M3│ │
├───┬─┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴──┴───┤
│Ums│M4│ü│ö│ä│p│z│b│m│,│.│j│ Umsch │
├───┼──┼─┴┬┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴┬┴─┼─┴┬──┬───┤
│Str│Fe│Al│Leerzeichen│M4│Fe│Me│Str│
└───┴──┴──┴───────────┴──┴──┴──┴───┘

=== NEO Layer 3 (Trying to get this via Wootomation + Paste Character functionality) ===
M3 would be the modifier to get the characters on this layer
┌───┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬─┬──────┐
│ ↻ │¹│²│³│›│‹│¢│¥│‚│‘│’│ │˚│ Back │
├───┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬─────┤
│ ♫ │…│_│[│]│^│!│<│>│=│&│ſ│/│ Ret │
├────┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴─┐ │
│ M3 │\│/│{│}│*│?│(│)│-│:│@│M3│ │
├───┬─┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴┬┴──┴───┤
│Ums│M4│#│$│|│~││+│%│"│'│;│ Umsch │
├───┼──┼─┴┬┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴┬┴─┼─┴┬──┬───┤
│Str│Fe│Al│Leerzeichen│M4│Fe│Me│Str│
└───┴──┴──┴───────────┴──┴──┴──┴───┘

I know that there is software to get NEO running on any keyboard, but I want to do it on the keyboard if possible (for example, AHK is blocked by some games I play)

[pure salmon]

just a quick question, is running parallel macros important as a feature? or sequential macros is enough?

i think keys fighting over each other just cause more issues and that queuing them one after another is a better idea

[shy lotus]

wouldnt they mess up each other? most macros cant really function with other keys pressing down

(at least in my experience)

[pure salmon]

yeah basically they would

[pure salmon]

a little sneak-peak

[surreal thicket]

Hi, I think wootomation for Linux doesn't include libthai in the appimage

I get this error if I try running it (on NixOS):

wootomation_1.0.2_amd64.AppImage installed in /home/ultra/.cache/appimage-run/6501854a487cbd5ed0d7014bb089f462231cc0ade812bd841a1bcc8cf2e6d437
wootomation: error while loading shared libraries: libthai.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

if I install the library on the host, I get this error:

wootomation_1.0.2_amd64.AppImage installed in /home/ultra/.cache/appimage-run/6501854a487cbd5ed0d7014bb089f462231cc0ade812bd841a1bcc8cf2e6d437
wootomation: error while loading shared libraries: libthai.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32

But since it's an appimage, I shouldn't have to install any libraries

[pure salmon]

yeah linux is deffo on my list of checking it out and making it all a bit nicer to work with

appimmage should ideally be click to run

thanks for the info on the test, i'll check that one out when i get to it

[heavy tiger]

hello, I wanted to know if we can set the macro type to "sequenced" a bit like on logitech mice for macros
is it possible to do this with wootomation?

[heavy tiger]

how did you get that?

@earnest bridge hey, can you help me please? would you tell me how to do it?

[earnest bridge]

No. I have no fucking clue how Wootomation works. I just pointed you to the one channel where someone COULD 😄

[bold pine]

He's a dev and he's probably working on it, the pic is just a spoiler. Might have it on next update idk

[heavy tiger]

so for the moment, we can't have a macro in sequence?

[bold pine]

probably, I would say just wait till they release an update

[wet coral]

Anyone know why, just after I use a macro, some of the next input will not be recognize ?

[pure salmon]

do you have a screenshot of the macro and trigger?

[pure salmon]

i wonder of the 0ms on the last key

if you change everything to lets say 1ms, does that change anything?

[wet coral]

idk why but it work now i don't have the input problem

[pure salmon]

i see

[heavy tiger]

You know when approximately can they post it?

[bold pine]

How would I know I'm not a dev

[small dust]

is it possible to toggle a macro on, and then turn it off mid action

[small dust]

do you have an estimate of when this will come out=

[pure salmon]

not yet, working on many things wootomation related

[heavy tiger]

And in the macros, there will be sequences?

[sly iron]

Is there anyway how to setup the macro and make it auto repeat instead of press the macro key again

[shy lotus]

soon™️

[pure salmon]

sequences? a macro is a sequence

[heavy tiger]

like this

[shy lotus]

?

a macro by definition is a sequence of key inputs

if you mean macro chaining you can do that by just putting the keys of the next macro at the end of a macro

[heavy tiger]

How so ?

[tulip trail]

how do i make a looping macro

[tulip trail]

obviouslywhydidnti think of that before

nah i need a macro i can toggle on and off and it loops until i turn it off, like an autoclicker

[pale citrus]

hello, wootomation doesnt work in games(( im usinw wooting two he.
it works in notepad and when I open the chat in the game (writes the letters that are in the macro) but my character does not press abilities on these keys. I checked it on other games and it doesn't work either.

[celest bronze]

software dosen't work doesn't after first install just stops responding on launch.

[urban sand]

wooting doesn't seem to care about wootomation because I'm having trouble installing it and i wrote here about the issue but wooting team didn't help at all

[shy lotus]

seeing how david is actively working on it i would say thats not true

[shy lotus]

to tell you what the error means: usually a 250X error means corrupted system files. aka your windows cant install it cause some files of your windows installation are corrupted

usually repairing system files and clearing the temp folder can fix this

(corrupted doesnt mean broken but can be broken, missing or just a permission issue)

[urban sand]

i was leaning towards permission issue too and i think you are right because after using someones optimization pack now some things i cant change or enable and many have been removed

[dark wind]

probably the issue. I can say that wooting does care as well because I suggested a feature and their team replied within a day mentioning how feasible it could be and potentially looking into it in the future

[pure salmon]

yeah 99% of wootomation issues is caused by windows "optimization" tools people use to remove webview or other things for example

[cunning parcel]

Fr33thy does a good job, but almost all of his tweaks will not net any tangible results. A lot of people just blindly apply everything and then don't know how to get themselves out of the hole they dug.

Modern windows is millennia better at managing services and even memory than the bygone days of windows 9x/NT.

[visual ridge]

can you set macro keys in function layers for wootility or is there something im missing?

[woeful coral]

How can I set my macro to toggle on and off?

anyway instead of having to constantly hold down the key?

[pure salmon]

feature is WIP

[pure salmon]

wanted to know (whoever reads this): how important is the trigger consuming for you? Would it be fine to not consume triggers and use F13-F24 instead as the main buttons?

[shy lotus]

(you might want to explain trigger consuming to people that dont know it)

[pure salmon]

right, basically now it works that whenever you press a trigger key, it should not pass through eg, ';' being a trigger key will not pass it to the OS if pressed

[dim marsh]

Amazing, cant wait!

[willow mirage]

why are you asking that? os conflicts? imo consuming triggers makes more sense to me, but i guess it's much more difficult to manage

using "unused f-keys" seems like a strange workaround without more information

[visual girder]

mb I thought I was in my server

[pure salmon]

long story short its basically making a huge mess if you have cycling macros

[willow mirage]

Ah, makes sense. How do other macro softwares do it?

[shy lotus]

well ahk lets you choose lol

[pure salmon]

other manufacturers usally use it as an interface for the keyboard itself doing it i think

[mortal basin]

dont know if this was mentioned before but it would be really nice to have the macro run only when the trigger key is being held down. if not then it cancels out

[willow mirage]

hey it's gonna come in future updates - https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-macros/pull/182

[mortal basin]

wonderful!!

[wet coral]

I need help with Wootomation because when i have it launch some of my input ig don't work or input very late like 30s to 5m,
I already had this problem but after a software update everything was fine until recently

[visual girder]

How do i save the macro

[wet coral]

top right
but you need to add a trigger key before you can save

[west raven]

are "keypress macros" available yet? like while holding a key it spams a certain key?

[willow mirage]

this feature is gonna come in future updates https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-macros/pull/182

[heavy tiger]

When will it be available?

[drowsy meteor]

v

[willow mirage]

i think pretty soon (ish)

[pure salmon]

its gonna be available in 1.2, right now im working on 1.1

1.1 should be hopefully out this year

[heavy tiger]

yooooooooooooooooooo

[vague basin]

im trying to make a macro for a game, its a simple macro just m1->4->m1, but the 4 doesnt register when im on the game, only when im on anything where it can type the 4 and not use it as an action, anyone got a solution?

it doesnt register any keyboard inputs at all whilst ingame

[knotty sapphire]

David has some fixes incoming for using macros within applications like games. I don't know the eta though

[clever nova]

I'm sure it's been answered, but is it possible to move the mouses location at all with wootomation?

[knotty sapphire]

Not currently, and I am not sure that it's on the radar for us right now. Lot's of other stuff to improve on

[teal thorn]

I can't get any wootomation macro to work in any game, does anyone know why? only in Notepad

[dim marsh]

Amazing news! i hope there will be a "Loop whilst trigger key held" function too 😄 good job

in 1.2.. replied to wrong bit

[pure salmon]

that one is something there are some issues with proccing the feature to be in 1.2 instead of 1.1

[teal thorn]

Forgive my ignorance about this program but will it be possible in the future to use these macros in games?

[pure salmon]

it will be in 1.1

but then again, if you use them in anti-cheat enabled games they most likely will flag you

[teal thorn]

That's fantastic so I understand that macros in general are prohibited in some games but it is interesting to have this function, thanks for responding.

[pure salmon]

yeah i mean noone will hate you for making a bunny hop macro in HL1 singleplayer

but for example games like tower unite have a strict anticheat system in place

[teal thorn]

Personally, I use them to do what a human would do in a normal response time since it is tiring to always do the same thing repeatedly, not for an advantage in an inhuman response time in multiplayer.

[crude berry]

this isnt on wooting. this is a limit by the language of the os you pick

[lean moat]

is that not an advantage, even if you're macroing it to do it at the same speed a human would, you're eliminating the possibility of an error.

[teal thorn]

Well, if you are possibly right, you eliminate the error.

[pure salmon]

I think this is something I can look at in the 1.4 area-ish (language update)

the issue is with clickable buttons we have rn you'd have to have every letter on the planet, might as well do the entire unicode system. Windows library entry only supports ASCII so it might be very difficult to get that in as a simulated input

maybe a deadkey combo