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vernal ravine
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not impossible

iron oriole
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Imu quite literally distributes power

hasty sable
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Omen is about granting power to his followers to achieve his goals. They’re all conditional abilities.

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He goes on about this in the same chapter he explains it

hardy stratus
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Ye

vernal ravine
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omen avalo pizarro turns into the whole red line

tranquil blade
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Well all of the abilities basically leave the people with the granted powers indebted to Imu and under his control as a consequence

iron oriole
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Omen, Contracts, DR... its all distribution of power & personally don't think BB would ever want to give that out to anyone

hasty sable
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It’s just like Blackbeard finding fruits to give to his followers so that they become more powerful pawns for him to pursue his goals. That is a deliberate parallel imo.

odd rune
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it is so refreshing to see a monkey D. that isnt so oakheaded and is anxious and actually second guesses themself

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It still annoys me that its a tranquiliser gun though

vernal ravine
odd rune
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let dragon just kill the CD oda you hack

royal orchid
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he should have put that cd down

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#FakeDemons

hasty sable
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He didn’t want Dragon killing civvies

odd rune
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i felt kinda similar like when usopp disintegrates half of gunko and then usopp is like apologising

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as much as people want to justify oda fakeout deaths or things like that i think sometimes he tries way too hard to make his good guys not do bad things

hasty sable
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Law saying he’s not a murderer is funny

odd rune
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a scene where dragon just... doesnt kill civillians with his gun that shoots actual bullets would have worked just as well as him shooting them with tranquilisers

royal orchid
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robin and zoro never really killing people in the series

odd rune
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or better yet just have dragon shoot civillians

hardy stratus
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Better WAKAINU

hasty sable
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Robin was at least implied to be a killer

urban lodge
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Zoro at least killed the guy at the start of Wano

hasty sable
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Crocodile asking Robin about that witness he had her kill pogPause

scenic dirge
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“Zoro”

“Slaughter them all”

“Yes captain”

“BANKAI”

royal orchid
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!os3

rose rune
scenic dirge
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Shut up

hardy stratus
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Robin has killed plenty. Zoro is pro enough to just manage to get them to sleep without killing fr WAKAINU

hasty sable
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Pica fight is the best Zoro slop

odd rune
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I dont think anyone is asking for edgypiece except for my cringe friend

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but oda leans too far sometimes and it irks me

royal orchid
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hilarious really

hasty sable
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Just chapter after chapter of Zoro bullying this guy

hardy stratus
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Idk idrc about character death and the like atp

sleek saddle
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she just cripples people for the fun of it

hardy stratus
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in anything

rose rune
sleek saddle
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i just realized this is also manga i have to return to maanga

royal orchid
# sleek saddle not kill

say what you will about OPLA but live action robin straight up makes marines kill themselves via gunshot

rose rune
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the moment Luffy wakes up from the absinthe, Kaido will destroy wano

scenic dirge
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Zoro killed Mr 7 and Wano guy we know that much. If Oda actually had blades be lethal in one piece then he would have killed a bazillion more

hardy stratus
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Death as it is is already an overused and overrated narrative and emotional response device anyway

hasty sable
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I like to think he kills a lot of the average mooks

scenic dirge
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How about I kill you how about that? Wouldn’t be calling it overused then would you?

hasty sable
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And Marines because it’s funny

odd rune
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oda just likes to do that stuff offscreen i think

hardy stratus
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not irl device

scenic dirge
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Lmao

hasty sable
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More marines should die

odd rune
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like jinbei being oh yeah this bege guy he's a maniac dude... bonechilling psychopath

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which like yeah thats a sick intro and i didnt need to see bege kill people but

royal orchid
scenic dirge
odd rune
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Vito

scenic dirge
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Bro just gunned down Bobbin

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Vito

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Ye

rose rune
hasty sable
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Bege killing gang leaders for the love of the game

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No benefit whatsoever

urban lodge
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It will always be funny to me that Toei is comfortable with showing characters getting dismembered but they can't show a middle finger

scenic dirge
odd rune
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his hands are big

rose rune
royal orchid
rose rune
royal orchid
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I'm 50 years old so I don't get it

vernal ravine
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like no one believes it

odd rune
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anyway yeah idk, like why can we see celestial dragons like whipping and shooting slaves with zero remorse but dragon cant shoot a civilian for a character growth moment, it has to be a tranquiliser

royal orchid
rose rune
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funny thing about wano was that you barely noticed that named people had died until it was casually dropped after everything had concluded

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like izo

odd rune
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yeah i think ashura's death could have been done better

royal orchid
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asura doji death was so random

hardy stratus
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? Ashura and Izo dying was obviously known

rose rune
odd rune
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it became obvious in hindsight that ashura died once he just never showed up again

hardy stratus
royal orchid
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not really noticed or not really barely noticed

urban lodge
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It's a little strange with how inconsistent characters surviving explosions is

hasty sable
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Tbh there were so many fakeouts it was kind of hard to tell when someone died for real kekw

odd rune
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idk its just the lack of catharsis if that makes sense

hardy stratus
rose rune
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you kinda expect them to just be ok after some chopper bandages

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because of how oda writes

scenic dirge
ruby cape
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Ashura dying I wasn’t that surprised to be honest other than how quick and easy it was after hyping up his strength in the narrative but Izo was random as hell

scenic dirge
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Because I was genuinely confused

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To find out he died

hardy stratus
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Says more about you Evan BrookTea

scenic dirge
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Nope

odd rune
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i guess its also cool that the akazaya didnt dwell on it and immediately took charge after ashura's sacrifice

gritty vigil
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Bro who is ashura, I forgot

urban lodge
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In a different series I would have assumed Izo died

vernal ravine
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like how many people were expecting Pedro to return that's Oda's fault fr

rose rune
ruby cape
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Fuck is with WB pirates and dying bro

vernal ravine
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too many fake outs

royal orchid
royal orchid
odd rune
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that was not ashura LMFAO

gritty vigil
urban lodge
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Different fat guy

hardy stratus
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Ashura Doji was leader of Mount Atama thieves

bold sonnet
hardy stratus
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A group of ronins

ruby cape
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Shutenmaru bro

scenic dirge
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Different pink haired fat guy

gritty vigil
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😭

bold sonnet
hardy stratus
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Y'all just don't read man...

odd rune
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ashura's little samurai backstory with the sunacchi guys was pretty sad

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some of his lines were so cool

scenic dirge
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I think Meeks was joking lol

gritty vigil
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I'm confused

odd rune
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the chapter where ashura is showing them all the graves

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fuck i gotta find that one sec

royal orchid
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I was but I didn't remember urashima's name

ruby cape
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Ashura waited 20 years to die out like that they shoulda killed another Akazaya instead

odd rune
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one line i cant remember but its so good

ruby cape
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Take Kin’emon out

ruby cape
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As goated as he is

scenic dirge
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This is Ashura

hardy stratus
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I do find Oda had an issue of managing cast in Wano but meh. He did it better than anyone I would expect in weekly serialization

gritty vigil
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Yes I think I remember him

scenic dirge
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I will if it’s for the sake of helping my precious members

rose rune
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I reread 1041, and I still don't think it's obvious that Izo died

royal orchid
odd rune
odd rune
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so fucking based

rose rune
hardy stratus
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Not really

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I ragebait a lot but don't make up shit

odd rune
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oh god i really did forget that embeds are disabled

sturdy steeple
odd rune
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i gotta not do that

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im sorry

urban lodge
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Characters have definitely had similar "set up" and lived anyway

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Kin and Kiku most notably

royal orchid
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if they were really disabled would mods still have them

gritty vigil
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I think I need to reread one piece.... I'm forgetting stuff

hardy stratus
rose rune
hardy stratus
royal orchid
hardy stratus
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The salient and optic guy isnt

gritty vigil
urban lodge
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The only other time that I can think of before that that it actually stuck was Pedro

hardy stratus
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Evan has made it personal now

vernal ravine
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talking about fake-out deaths, after a few months what do y'all think about domi reversi

hardy stratus
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It was great then

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It's great now

sturdy steeple
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When Oda revealed that Izo and Ashura died most were confused.

odd rune
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i just think that invincibility is kind of a lame trick for antagonists to have

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but imu's powers being part of the reason kinda makes up for that

hardy stratus
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💀

rose rune
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I don't really have strong feelings about domi reversi

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it's there

hardy stratus
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It's a really interesting mechanism which I am even more keen to learn about

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why Chopper could reverse that

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What other aspects are there to it

royal orchid
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anyone else not exactly a fan of god knights having the same consistency as the green nickelodeon slime because they can just be cut into a fine paste without dying

urban lodge
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It exists to justify Oda's Rocks retcon and explain why Roger and Garp fought him to death

royal orchid
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it's point one of why I like warcury

hardy stratus
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💀

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Gimme choptir already.

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When will these 2 hours pass

tranquil blade
royal orchid
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now I finally feel how anime onlys feel waiting for sunday episodes

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!animo

tropic novaBOT
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Next episode comes out on <t:1779638400:F> <t:1779638400:R> (time zone adjusted)

hardy stratus
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There would be other ways too trust

ruby cape
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Loki on the other hand didn’t expect but with the Warrior God not surprised

tranquil blade
hardy stratus
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There would be aspect of Will, aspect of DFs, and a lot stuff at play here

hardy stratus
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That's what Garp and Roger did

prisma yacht
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It's not

ruby cape
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chopper being able to slap people out of it is the part of it I really like

urban lodge
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It's not Goro

prisma yacht
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That's only bcs xebec was using it too

tranquil blade
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No they killed him which reverted the form

ruby cape
urban lodge
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In that case it was because Rocks was using CoC as armor

hardy stratus
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Wait you mean the part of how giants reversed it?

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The Go sorta rule part?

ruby cape
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ACoC is only really helpful in delaying it

tranquil blade
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Yes

urban lodge
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You just have to do a mortal blow, which is very funny

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"Undying bodies"

prisma yacht
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Oda wanted gore

tranquil blade
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but Roger and Garp needed to use all that haki because Rocks was continuously guarding with haki himself

royal orchid
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I wonder if that's actually the secret

urban lodge
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I will not be gaslighted, they do not all have steel hearts

tranquil blade
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It probably is

hardy stratus
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There's more to it

urban lodge
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And if they do Oda just recently made that up

ruby cape
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Gunko will come out with a steel heart

tranquil blade
hardy stratus
ruby cape
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Idk why it wouldn’t be consistent throughout them

prisma yacht
hardy stratus
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Not being able to handle getting new information slowly..

urban lodge
royal orchid
rose rune
prisma yacht
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higher ranking hks must not be having a heart at all

royal orchid
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yeah no it's funny that you just have to kill DR'd people to send them back at full health

tranquil blade
royal orchid
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or in chopper's case, slap them

prisma yacht
hasty sable
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The heart moves

dark nymph
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doooont care, wheres choptir

hasty sable
hardy stratus
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2 Hours

urban lodge
royal orchid
hardy stratus
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It prolly doesn't

dark nymph
tranquil blade
hardy stratus
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Someone in reddit or here would write an essay of why it doesn't soon anyway so I don't really care

hasty sable
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everything with Imu’s powers feels like Oda inventing a third power system on the fly kekw

hasty sable
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But it’s whatever

tranquil blade
hardy stratus
hasty sable
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I don’t really care as long as the stretchy man punches him

hardy stratus
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ngl

tranquil blade
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gin mention

hardy stratus
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It would be on point for a government which censors everything to not let information of their powers go outside

royal orchid
hasty sable
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Summon him

royal orchid
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don't

hardy stratus
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Just send a feet pic

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He would come

prisma yacht
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🦶

hardy stratus
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Oops pun not intended

prisma yacht
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this is like a rat bait?

hasty sable
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Say that Mr. Morj released a new theory and he would come

iron oriole
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I kinda feel bad for Morj, his legacy is forever "the guy who thought Onigashima raid will fail"

honest garden
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He deserves far worse

iron oriole
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I wouldn't wish a double/triple down on a theory going wrong on my worst enemy

royal orchid
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didn't he triple down on it post raid

iron oriole
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idr, Wano is honestly a blur

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there was so many shit theories around that time

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from the raid failing to the like 40 page google doc on ZKK etc

hardy stratus
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his legacy is the tanuki teapot theory guy

iron oriole
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nobody remembers him for that

hardy stratus
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idk the ZKK 40 page doc is cool

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raid failing theory is cool

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tanuki teapot theory is cool

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the fact that these are wild makes it cool

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way better than current agenda posting

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cuz with the former, you would actually have to engage with the story for having all the evidences and what not for theory

pseudo gulch
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Never forget the Ryokugyu is Zoro's dad video

maiden saffron
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seems important

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trying to catch little bits and pieces on my current reread

hardy stratus
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that's WG propaganda

maiden saffron
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I think it's a truth that's slowly turned into a legend because it was passed down through generations even if it wasn't recorded in history

hardy stratus
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i mean obv it is but like it's fun to realize how much of the "myths" that characters know and regurgitate are WG propaganda in hindsight

maiden saffron
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like the existence of poneglyphs, the will of D

hardy stratus
maiden saffron
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things that a lot of people KNOW about, but not the whole picture

dapper tree
hardy stratus
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such level of recontextualization after further information

tranquil blade
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Do we think Davy Jones was evil or misunderstood

maiden saffron
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they only know about it because it's been passed down generation after generation

hardy stratus
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Oda is a hack if he didn't have WG polluting the lore and myth and history to suit Imu's narrative

maiden saffron
urban lodge
hasty sable
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Rocks is the coolest example of this because it was meta

royal orchid
maiden saffron
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Davy jones is clearly a prolific character, everyone knows about the davy back fight, Pirate island relevance etc

scenic dirge
wraith mantle
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Hope carrot will not be in top 5 this week

tranquil blade
maiden saffron
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I think his story has just been passed down unlike Rocks

thick maple
tranquil blade
maiden saffron
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where most of what we knew about him was WG propaganda

hasty sable
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I think Davy Jones will be worse than Xebec

tranquil blade
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but I wouldnt use the word good

maiden saffron
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I think Davy jones will be an enemy to both Joyboy and the wg

tranquil blade
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I wouldnt say pure evil either

wraith mantle
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Rocks is just human

maiden saffron
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davy jones is gonna be the blackbeard of that era

hasty sable
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Xebec is messy I’d say but far more good than bad

maiden saffron
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shrimple

hasty sable
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Davy was king of the ancient kingdom

hardy stratus
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such overt direct parallels would suck demon

hasty sable
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Joyboy was just a pirate who didn’t care about that stuff

maiden saffron
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we're beyond that

hardy stratus
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not really

maiden saffron
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I think we are Lmfao

hardy stratus
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Xebec, Roger dynamic isn't really like bb, luffy

hasty sable
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Everyone wanted to make Joyboy king but he just wanted to be free

hardy stratus
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the characterization is also much different. same in surface but yea

thick maple
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Mm what if joyboy was evil too

hasty sable
maiden saffron
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yeah im not saying it'll be the exact same, its not gonna be a direct parallel

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but Davy jones fulfills a similar role

hardy stratus
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already the foundation of their relationship is much different than Rocks and Roger

tranquil blade
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Yeah the Roger Rocks dynamic is almost nothing alike to the Blackbeard Luffy dynamic

maiden saffron
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like Xebec did, the main difference between Xebec and Roger's era is that the WG didn't seem to be as involved. I think it's even possible that they knew Roger wasn't capable of doing anything.

hasty sable
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Luffy fighting Teach and finally realizing what it is that he hates about Blackbeard is that he likes him

maiden saffron
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nah Luffy is not about to like the guy who killed ace

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and will probably kill shanks

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and killed whitebeard

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He might respect him on some level

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but that's about it

hasty sable
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That’s why he hates it CrocThink

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Because he can’t hate Blackbeard all the way

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Unlike other baddies

maiden saffron
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that doesn't matter

royal orchid
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oh wow fats is back

tranquil blade
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Xebec and Roger werent the biggest fans of each other but Roger never held the same grudge like Luffy does, and Xebec was forced to fight Roger at the end whereas BB would willingly kill Luffy at any time

ruby cape
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He’d maximum respect him for his strength as an opponent there’s no other qualities or reasons Luffy would have to like BB 😭

hasty sable
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WHY DOESNT IT MATTER

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insert American Psycho gif

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Sorry that wasn’t supposed to be all caps

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I am not actually yelling

balmy field
balmy field
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i ws'd the gif

urban lodge
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He liked the cherry pie, Luffy would never like him

maiden saffron
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Luffy respecting the fact that he has a dream that he's fighting for won't actually prevent him from punching him full force and breaking his nose, is what i mean.

hasty sable
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When Luffy meets Blackbeard in Impel Down what he remembers is how Blackbeard told him that dreams never end. That’s part of what makes him angry. That the guy who said that ended up being the guy Ace was after.

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Yeah, they’re gonna fight ofc

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And Luffy is going to crush his dream

maiden saffron
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Luffy hates blackbeard for who he is and what he did to him even if there's a part of bb that's similar to luffy

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and he might even see himself there

hasty sable
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But it would be interesting if despite everything Teach did he’s someone Luffy likes in a way

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And that contradiction annoys him

maiden saffron
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I feel like luffy isnt the type to worry much about that

hardy stratus
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Again even if he does, which I can see in some certain degree but it's not like Fuji where he would honestly speak on that and he won't even realize it

hasty sable
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I think he might honestly

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He’s said other things I’d never expect him to say

hardy stratus
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I think you are coming from the Fuji moment?

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like basing on that?

hasty sable
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Like his speech to Doffy at the end of Dressrosa

maiden saffron
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luffy isnt the kind to ponder why he likes or dislikes someone or get annoyed about the fact that he can't hate someone even if he wants to

hasty sable
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I think that’s one of the things he actually would ponder if it caused him to feel cofnicired

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People underestimate Luffy I feel

maiden saffron
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Im not underestimating him

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I just dont see luffy being conflicted about competely ending BB in any circumstance

hasty sable
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That’s not it

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He wouldn’t feel conflicted about fighting him

hardy stratus
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like I am sure there's some level of "fruit influence" that's bothering Luffy

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which he's kinda avoiding rn

hasty sable
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Luffy saying something like, “I finally realized what makes me mad about you. It’s that I like you.” Or something in the midst of their fight. It doesn’t stop him from smashing Blackbeard’s face or opposing his dream.

hardy stratus
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yeah no it won't be such dialogue buddy

maiden saffron
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Why would he ever say anything like that lol

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AT BEST he might remark that they are similar but even that is a stretch

hardy stratus
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but I get what you are coming from. I can see some semblance of that conflict being there in luffy but it probably won't come off as a dialogue

maiden saffron
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i think oda wants to keep that stuff strictly between the readers

hardy stratus
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but it would probably come from a long serious stare

hasty sable
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Idk I could see him talking about it

maiden saffron
hasty sable
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It doesn’t have to be a long speech just a remark

maiden saffron
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and he might wonder why everyone calls him that

hasty sable
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And Luffy has even given long speeches before. I would never expect Luffy from an earlier arc to go off about Doffy keeping everyone in a cage f.e.

maiden saffron
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why not

hasty sable
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Luffy is more mature than people realize

maiden saffron
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Luffy was doing that stuff in arlong park

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and skypiea... alabasta... He gives a lot of speeches to a lot of characters

hardy stratus
hasty sable
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I think for Luffy the conflict with Teach could be that by his actions and what he believes in, Luffy should hate Blackbeard. But he can’t separate him from the man who spoke about dreams and who reminded him of Shanks. Blackbeard viscerally aggravates him because they’re fundamentally similar in their ideals but in ways that are diametrically opposed. That is an interesting dynamic to explore between them.

hardy stratus
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I think like demon said, it would be a point made to the readers

hasty sable
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Going all the way back to the bar scene where they react the exact opposite to the pie and the drink lol

hardy stratus
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but not something spoken through by luffy

hasty sable
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And again I could see Luffy vocalizing that but it’s whatever. Oda might not even go this route lol

ruby cape
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It’s just something I don’t see whichever route you may so happen to take tbh

hasty sable
balmy field
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like during arlong park

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arabasta
he and vivi

maiden saffron
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and yes luffy is definitely underestimated in these regards, but I still don't see how this would compel him to say that he likes BB. We already know how similar BB and Luffy are in some aspects, simply because BB has a dream he believes in regardless of what others think doesn't actually make him THAT unique.

Crocodile had a dream, Enel had a dream, Moria had a dream, Kaido and Big Mom had dreams. Luffy has had no issue crushing everyone's dreams up to this point, I don't think he's suddenly about to have an internal conflict because BB told him that dreams will never die.

The only way something like this could happen is if Blackbeard was somehow a very unique case in the story and other characters weren't working for or living their dreams.

I think the "dreams will never die" scene is brilliant not only because it's a great way to introduce BB but also highlighting the difference between Pirates like BB, Luffy, Roger etc and people like Bellamy.

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it shows the difference between people who can change the world and those who can't

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I do believe Luffy will come to have some respect for Blackbeard eventually, I just don't see this turning into an internal conflict or whatever

upper rose
hasty sable
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The internal conflict isn’t about crushing Blackbeard’s dream. He’d have no issue with that. I think if there’s a conflict it would just be more about how he feels about Teach.

hasty sable
maiden saffron
hasty sable
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Which ties into themes like inherited will and whatnot

maiden saffron
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i dont think it has anything to do with greed

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even if bb is a greedy bastard

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It's clearly a response to the mocktown public talking about dreams

upper rose
maiden saffron
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I see it differently

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i think the pie scene showcases that they're opposites

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and the dreams scene shows that they're also very similar

hasty sable
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There is def a contrast with how Teach wants to hoard power like a Celestial Dragon and Luffy wants to make a world where people can eat as much as they want. But in that scene it’s highlighting how they’re similar.

maiden saffron
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both at the same time

hasty sable
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Even the pie scene is interesting because their behavior is the exact same, but in opposite incompatible ways

hardy stratus
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that scene is how you introduce an antagonist

pulsar path
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I love cherry pie! I hate cherry pie!

upper rose
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yh i think both highlight how opposed they are, the dream scene showing only that they both care about dreams and the pie scene showing only that their behaviors are the same

like convergent evolution instead of divergent evolution if that makes sense

hasty sable
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Also like that Blackbeard doesn’t kill Luffy for the fight.

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Straw hats dodged an unfathomable bullet there

upper rose
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instead of them splitting off from the same archetype they're two entirely different people who showcase similar behaviors

maiden saffron
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It's also really cool when you learn that BB wasn't saying that luffy bluffed about his bounty

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he couldn't believe it was that low

hardy stratus
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did BB feel CoC oozing out of him?

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that Luffy didn't know how to use

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that would be an awesome recontexualization ngl...

tranquil blade
#

BB apparently could sense his haki somehow even though Luffy couldnt use it yet

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He says something about it

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During uhh Impel Down I think

maiden saffron
#

bb straight up mentions his haki in jaya

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so yeah

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he knew Luffy was a big shot

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straight off the bat

hardy stratus
#

oh yea

pulsar path
#

Or

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Was he sensing Nika 😂

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That fruit definitely has haki

hardy stratus
#

nah meh meh meh

maiden saffron
#

nah i think he was sensing his haki, i dont think he would've known about luffy's power at all

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he didnt know who luffy was

#

he wouldnt know about his rubber body

pulsar path
#

Devil fruits have wills

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Bb had the Yami

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Those fruits were resonating trust

maiden saffron
#

I think its simple, he was somehow able to know that Luffy wasn't a small fry

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and it's most likely related to haki

hot cairn
#

Yeah

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that’s what it was

pulsar path
#

Than that's ass f haki

#

To me that's boring AF

tranquil blade
#

It is weird because in what way was he sensing his haki? Like his potential with haki? because he couldnt use it all yet so his haki shouldnt be super powerful or anything...

upper rose
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just his strength of will probably

pulsar path
#

I always felt it was the will of d, destiny , resonating of feeling , there devil fruits talking since most likely there was a will involved

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Yeah I guess I forget haki does just mean will power

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But I don't think he was sensing coc ,coo or coa. Did he say anything about ace who had already unlocked coc at the time ?

primal notch
hasty sable
#

Luffy: Blackbeard is the coolest guy

prisma yacht
hasty sable
#

I actually wish he kept the missing tooth from WCI because it’s a visual parallel to Blackbeard

rose rune
#

I wish everyone kept their missing teeth

hot cairn
#

I had a dream about it once

balmy field
#

and who tf are you?

hot cairn
#

who are YOU

hasty sable
#

Oda will cook so hard with Blackbeard and Shanks

balmy field
rose rune
hardy stratus
#

I knew that's where Archer's head was at

hot cairn
maiden saffron
#

if we are to take this literally, does this mean davy jones is a fishman devil fruit user who fell to the bottom of the ocean

hasty sable
#

He’s Hinokizu

maiden saffron
#

surely davy jones would be dead by now

#

id much rather hinokizu be a new character

hardy stratus
#

that'd be better yes

hot cairn
hasty sable
#

I am mostly joking I have no theories about burn scar that people don’t bully me for

maiden saffron
#

aokiji is the burn scar man !

prisma yacht
#

Well davy jones wld be a new one technically CrocoKid

maiden saffron
#

he has a burn scar

#

on his leg !!

maiden saffron
#

poor jack

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a bum to the end

balmy field
maiden saffron
#

sure why not

rose rune
pine ridge
#

happy chapter day to everyone

maiden saffron
#

yep you're right

#

that is by far the laziest i've seen

hasty sable
#

Davy was no king ImuEye

maiden saffron
#

is that supposed to be davy jones?

rose rune
maiden saffron
#

he looks too much like tonjit

rose rune
balmy field
rose rune
maiden saffron
#

cant wait for this pirates of the caribbean knockoff manga series to end

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so i can move onto better things (kagurabachi)

stone terrace
#

You call it lazy, I call it strategically allocating effort

balmy field
hardy stratus
#

would feel hollow once it ends ngl

#

what would I even read. Stormlight would have ended by that point. No other good longer series are ongoing.

prisma yacht
#

Time we end ourselves

hot cairn
prisma yacht
hardy stratus
fiery spire
hardy stratus
#

with OP ending, I would have no excuse fr fr

balmy field
#

one piece was the friends we made along the way

pulsar path
#

In redubbing/ titling one piece a song of sun and moon

#

Y'all crazy I'll just reread onepeice indefinitely or my big plan is to alternate between dragon ball in one piece for ever

hot cairn
hardy stratus
hot cairn
hardy stratus
#

Op was friends we made along the way

hasty sable
#

Twenty minutes till
Choptir

hardy stratus
#

Let's gooo

royal orchid
#

seven minutes is all I can spare with you.

urban lodge
#

Damn lost my chance to say 6-7 minutes until chapter

dark nymph
#

Chapter soon

prisma yacht
#

Stephen paul says chapter in 6-7 mins

hardy stratus
dark nymph
prisma yacht
#

He uses ai

dark nymph
#

in your dreams

prisma yacht
pine ridge
#

!chop

tropic novaBOT
#

Next chapter comes out on <t:1779634800:F> <t:1779634800:R> (time zone adjusted)

dark nymph
#

thats t*b

ashen perch
#

Toei dropped some peak wow

royal orchid
prisma yacht
#

Stephen paul is now a liar as well

#

GUCK HIM

#

Fuck

royal orchid
wraith mantle
#

pray to nika carrot is not top 5 again

urban lodge
#

Yeah she will be top 1

#

It was her birthday yesterday

#

It's only natural

prisma yacht
trim lily
#

wahoo embeds back soon

muted hedge
#

all i pray for is Imu's colors being revealed

trim lily
royal orchid
trim lily
#

unfortunately most of the state sponsored emotes are inferior to the originals

royal orchid
rose rune
#

wowee, it's out

muted hedge
prisma yacht
#

Choptir out

trim lily
urban lodge
#

Aaaaand out

prisma yacht
#

slowpoke

urban lodge
#

I was waiting for the announcement smh

royal orchid
#

smh slow helpers

wraith mantle
#

eh top 5 in poll didnt update

#

are they not doing that anymore

prisma idol
royal orchid
muted hedge
#

man his attacks just keep getting cooler and cooler, by far the coolest fighting style in the series

#

||also, is Douzan Joyboy?||

urban lodge
#

Best chapter in all of Elbaf

trim lily
#

elbaf is back

tranquil blade
tardy void
prisma yacht
#

Runny nosed brat

tardy void
#

elbaf is too peak for this to be the best chapter

muted hedge
rose rune
#

I had such a hard time making out what his eyes looked like at first

prisma yacht
royal orchid
prisma yacht
#

I'll just share it since I took the effort to crop it out

muted hedge
#

i hate you fronsen

prisma yacht
#

Mwah

rose rune
trim lily
#

crazy that imu couldn’t destroy ragnir’s ice

#

ragnir truly is top 5

royal orchid
tranquil blade
muted hedge
#

||also Queen Candelle is definitely a holy knight||

tardy void
torn stirrup
#

||did loki shit himself here or what, what's the plip plip /s||

royal orchid
prisma yacht
#

QUEEN CANDICE LESGOOOO

rose rune
#

maybe

distant vine
#

You wouldnt do anything even if the choice was "Die" so you can chill out Jinbe LMAO

tardy void
rose rune
#

classic jinbei

urban lodge
royal orchid
dense rapids
distant vine
#

Ok so she'll be fine if Imu's hold gets erased and she ages up

blazing depot
blazing mantle
#

@urban lodge it’s on the horizon

pulsar path
#

Tell me why zaza smacks the crap out of the librarian 😂😂😂

urban lodge
blazing mantle
#

My eventual switch up

royal orchid
urban lodge
#

I knew it

blazing mantle
#

Chill

dense rapids
blazing mantle
#

I said I would switch up when the flashback happened

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I’ll put aside my beef with gunko for it

pulsar path
#

Just fyi I pretty much called the brook and Gunko relationship

blazing mantle
pulsar path
urban lodge
pulsar path
distant vine
#

Lol its kinda uncanny seeing this version of Brook. But I like it

blazing mantle
royal orchid
stone terrace
#

Jimbei: "I hate to rush you Brook but-"
Brook: "Four score and seven years ago..."

blazing mantle
#

I guess I never thought about it

pulsar path
#

So you guys realize Imu took over a 7 year old and had her kill her parents right.

rose rune
#

this worked surprisingly well

urban lodge
#

It's the thing I was looking forward to the most in all of Elbaf

final trench
#

My sista from another mista

blazing mantle
#

Brook haki buff is soon

final trench
#

Davy D ShuriBBWise BBWise BBWise

blazing mantle
#

I can feel it in my bones

muted hedge
#

Brook is definitely Micael Jackson btw

pulsar path
#

It seems like to me. Gunko is zaza

distant vine
#

Would you let your employee openly lust for your wife

final trench
#

Its already in motion

prisma yacht
pulsar path
blazing mantle
olive sun
#

Love King Rueven and young Brook

final trench
blazing mantle
trim lily
#

king reuven is great

olive sun
#

He's such a different person you can feel his inexperience

prisma yacht
trim lily
#

shame he’s probably going to go through an insane tragedy in this flashback

prisma yacht
#

YO YO YO BRO YO

native cloud
prisma yacht
#

Type of bro

rose rune
#

Reuven is a pretty chill guy

pulsar path
royal orchid
final trench
#

Peak

stone terrace
#

bruh how is brook gonna aura farm with a feat like that

latent hamlet
#

Wait
Imu used GRAM?

stone terrace
#

but we cant even get him some armament haki

#

😭

latent hamlet
#

Well thats just fucking ominous

blazing mantle
latent hamlet
blazing mantle
#

🥱

urban lodge
#

Brook got weaker after he died is canon

dense rapids
#

Two zou on cover after zunesha rain god theories 👀

blazing mantle
rose rune
dense rapids
latent hamlet
#

I guess Imu is serious now if he's using Gram as the attack name

royal orchid
#

man so weird how English version of mangaplus doesn't have double pages and is ass quality

teal shuttle
dense rapids
tranquil blade
blazing mantle
stone terrace
#

i like how candelles hair looks like melted wax

blazing mantle
#

Look at gunkos noodle arms

tranquil blade
#

Brook is faster without flesh so it balances out

royal orchid
stone terrace
#

hes faster and can freeze his opponents

wet condor
#

I hope this flashback doesn't last more than 2 more chapters

blazing mantle
tranquil blade
distant vine
#

Im glad Oda still remembers he can do this

wet condor
#

But it's probably gonna be at least 5

urban lodge
#

She's evil btw

dense rapids
#

Japanese fans late

I called this months ago

stray prism
#

PEAK 😭

#

Brook arc

tawny kraken
#

can't believe we get 2 shakky scenarios in one arc

blazing mantle
urban lodge
blazing mantle
#

Son

urban lodge
#

Also the outfit looks like a HK outfit

stone terrace
#

Candelle became a manmayer theories

final trench
thick maple
#

11 chapters to go till elbaf ends, wallahi bro wallahi

blazing mantle
#

God forbid we get a happily married couple

urban lodge
#

Lemme copypaste what I said in spoilers channel

trim lily
#

i think she and the king will both be good DD

blazing mantle
royal orchid
#

gear 5 laugh?

stone terrace
#

the king is ugly so he must be bad

wet condor
distant vine
#

Oda saw yall were saying the backstory is unnecessary and decided to put it in the middle of the fight. Thats why he's the greatest to do it

trim lily
tawny kraken
stray prism
pine ridge
#

I did not expect the brook flashback so soon but I'm here for it

olive sun
#

Yeah it does feel like a pivot

blazing mantle
olive sun
#

I guess there was nowhere else to shoehorn it in

wet condor
#

Reuven or Leuven, whatever his name is, probably wound up selling out Candelle

royal orchid
blazing depot
olive sun
#

Rueven doesn't feel evil to me he seems homely

wet condor
#

He was enticed by the CDs offer or something

wet condor
#

I don't think he's evil really. Probably just greedy

olive sun
#

Dudes doing his own lawn and dressed like a redneck

wet condor
#

Or maybe he actually does fight to protect Candelle

coarse viper
#

brook wasn't that good in thriller bark

olive sun
#

Brook was a skeleton living on a ship for 50 years

blazing mantle
#

Why are we already hating on Rueven

#

Come on guys

olive sun
#

His skills likely deteriorated

latent hamlet
maiden saffron
#

who ...

latent hamlet
blazing mantle
tawny kraken
dense rapids
olive sun
wet condor
#

He doesn't seem like a courageous person or someone of exceptional character off the rip lol

tawny kraken
blazing mantle
#

So we’re judging books based on their cover

trim lily
#

kinda funny everyone hates brook’s singing

blazing mantle
#

😢

urban lodge
# urban lodge Lemme copypaste what I said in spoilers channel

I think whatever happens is probably tied to Shuri's promising strength, because that's basically what she's defined by as a holy knight. Her identity was erased and she became a "military child", that's what Gunko means. Even the other Manmayer in God Valley seems to only see her as a tool because of her strength. That's why I think her mother already had some sort of connection to the holy land and that's how Imu found out about Shuri. Plus, there are quite a few parallels between her and Loki, like both having killed their fathers and wearing facial bandages, I think this is possibly another one, Candelle is her Estrid.

maiden saffron
#

more uta propaganda this chapter ... "oh did you guys know uta was originally from this island" yeah yeah man whatever

hasty sable
#

My image perms are back

barren token
#

Hi everyone what did we think of chapter

maiden saffron
#

Unexpected

thick maple
lofty fern
#

I I love candelle, far more French

wet condor
ivory solstice
#

King Reuven seems chill af

olive sun
barren token
#

I liked it i thought it was good I dont know id this is the time for brook lore but im here for it

tawny kraken
blazing mantle
pine ridge
thick maple
blazing mantle
#

I may have switched up on gunko dying but I promise you that candelle will not be evil

stone terrace
#

candelle has that shit on

urban lodge
ionic palm
#

Im really curious if Brook was capable of using Haki back then but lost the ability to use it because of the Shuri incident severely crippling his willpower and mental, because he seemed significantly stronger as a fighter during this time. His iconic attack had a far longer delay for example

ivory solstice
distant vine
ivory solstice
#

(plus how he pulled a death sentenc

distant vine
#

This flashback is good for the story and I dont mind having it rn

proper egret
#

Ohhhhhhhh I love brooks lore yes

hasty sable
#

Everyone in this flashback will die haha…

stone terrace
#

but then again the blues are supposed to be fodder i guess

barren token
#

Do we think brook could always delay his slash that long if he wanted to or he got weaker after being skeleton'd

urban lodge
proper egret
#

The queen is by far the finest hearteyes

maiden saffron
blazing mantle
ionic palm
ivory solstice
#

it would be cooler if this music kingdom was the one from film RED

distant vine
trim lily
stone terrace
#

This is like a classic swordsman aura farm move

barren token
#

Why would that be the case

wet condor
#

Uta incomign

#

Idk how but she is

trim lily
#

i’m never wrong

maiden saffron
#

yeah uta is definitely related

wet condor
pine ridge
#

Brook might be the worlds most skilled swordsmanBrookTea

proper egret
#

I did think brook wasn’t a weakling…he seemed but stronger in his prime ofc

maiden saffron
#

to this country

royal orchid
#

every other language translates brook's line to "I'm a one-woman man!!" but stephen paul knew that shit was a lie JuPeter

barren token
#

Maybe brook could always hold it this long he kust never had reason to before now

timber glacier
#

Brook was just an above average swordsman

wet condor
#

Yeah

tranquil blade
proper egret
#

So this ship here is w the princess and brook lol..

royal orchid
timber glacier
#

tough

urban lodge
tranquil blade
#

He didnt even really have a reason to do it here either

wet condor
#

I wonder he doesn't do this now lol

proper egret
#

I’m crying that emote tho BrookTea

dense rapids
#

GODA FORESHADOWING

fast pagoda
#

Candelle has crazy levels of aura

#

I love her

barren token
#

At the end of the manga "but I already slashed you at thriller bark" and luffy fricking dies

blazing mantle
tawny kraken
pine ridge
royal orchid
#

oh this is interesting

urban lodge
royal orchid
#

no more big boy texts

sturdy steeple
#

What Brook did might be one of the coolest things done in the series

timber glacier
#

thats a callback not a foreshadow

torn stirrup
#

this chapter felt very pre-timeskip-y for me

barren token
#

Why

blazing mantle
formal wagon
frail kindle
#

BROOK FLASHBACK LET'S GO

ivory solstice
urban lodge
distant vine
ivory solstice
dense rapids
royal orchid
#

holy aura

hasty sable
stone terrace
#

delayed haki bomb slices

vestal mural
royal orchid
#

timed haki slash

#

we're this close to solid haki constructs I can feel it chat

latent hamlet
ivory solstice
hasty sable
#

Loki is not looking so hot against Imu

boreal holly
#

Wtf is wrong with Oda

hasty sable
#

Zaza is cool. Candelle is cool.

latent hamlet
#

candelle gonna die

sly belfry
latent hamlet
#

hot woman in a suit?
dead

boreal holly
#

I can't keep defending this series ngl

stone terrace
#

me neither

fast pagoda
pine ridge
ivory solstice
ionic palm
prisma yacht
#

Queen candice so hot

fast pagoda
#

Candelle is not a knight of god

pine ridge
rose rune
royal orchid
#

she's such a god knight

blazing mantle
fast pagoda
boreal holly
ionic palm
#

check his files people, I think hes one of them.

prisma yacht
#

Glue

urban lodge
rose rune
ivory solstice
#

u are the one makeing it weird

pine ridge
royal orchid
urban lodge
stone terrace
#

inside the mind of eiichiro oda

trim lily
#

what if luffy was blue

blazing mantle
tawny kraken
#

daba dee daba dei

desert nest
#

Glue

urban lodge
#

Just one more...

#

Let me think

prisma yacht
#

They both kinda suck

vestal mural
#

Penny is a helper now? Sheesh

prisma yacht
#

They both kinda hot

urban lodge
#

You kinda suck

ivory solstice
mild pulsar
ivory solstice
#

only real Samurai i know is.... SAMURAİİİİİ JACKKKKK

distant vine
trim lily
noble carbon
#

Can't believe Brook always had a thing for married women with children

prisma yacht
#

Glue

rose rune
urban lodge
desert nest
#

Eulg

urban lodge
#

There we go

royal orchid
blazing mantle
#

Ok you win

fast pagoda
#

I want to know where Brook's panty obsession comes from

blazing mantle
#

Geez

urban lodge
ivory solstice
tawny kraken
royal orchid
#

SAMURAI BLUE

blazing mantle
grand flower
#

Chapter out finally

@hollow dove @hazy turret this Kid

blazing mantle
#

Or if Brook uses haki then I’ll instantly switch up

ivory solstice
timber glacier
#

maybe Brook will unlock haki vs Gunko

distant vine
tawny kraken
#

wait I just realised, brook never asked to see gunko's panties, because he never wanted to see her again

distant vine
#

But yeah he'll probably come back

ivory solstice
#

or someone else?

distant vine
#

Kid

ivory solstice
#

are there pepole who still think he is actualy death?

sturdy steeple
#

No he life

distant vine
proper egret
royal orchid
#

it's funny to believe he's just dead done for

ionic palm
dense rapids
mild pulsar
proper egret
mild pulsar
urban lodge
#

He does but he's chill

dense rapids
royal orchid
ivory solstice
proper egret
ionic palm
# mild pulsar Then youd have to explain why he cant use it anymore

its not really hard. Haki is a power based on willpower. If your will is weakened, then that should significantly weaken your ability to use it or how strong one's Haki is.

If Brook is shown to be using Haki in this flashback, then it would probably confirm that he lost his ability to use it because of the Shuri incident completely crippling his will.

in order to reawaken it, I would assume it would require him to finally move on and close the book on the Shuri incident that he's intentionally bottling up.

distant vine
#

It would be insane aura for someone to ask about Barto and Kid in the SBS and Oda goes "This is a matter of reading comprehension. It's quite clear the fate they met with going against Shanks."

timber glacier
#

Sort of like Moria

proper egret
distant vine
#

But nah theyll be fine

distant vine
#

Bandages do eveything

proper egret
#

Lmaoooo

ionic palm
ivory solstice
proper egret
#

I’m actually very impressed with Oda. The fact Kidd fans are patiently waiting for
Him to shine, is gruesome

wet condor
#

He's coming back either way

sly belfry
#

kid sweep

distant vine
#

Jinbe fans so beaten down I havent even seen a single one of them come up with the idea of Jinbe vs Zaza

#

Its over?

ionic palm
proper egret
wet condor
#

I doubt there are that many people who think Kid and Barto aren't still around

proper egret
#

He had no reason to get ahead with himself lmao

rose rune
wet condor
wet condor
muted hedge
#

Kid not coming back would be a waste

stone terrace
#

not at all

muted hedge
#

i mean he has conquerors haki which we never saw

wet condor
#

It's not even a matter of it being a waste

#

It's just like, it's obvious he's coming back lol

final trench
#

We got metal hearts/bullets
twin shanks
An unseen realm of elbaf

#

Its time

stone terrace
#

Kid has had no plot thread setup that would be dropped if he were to never to return

ivory solstice
final trench
#

And bro was on the cover storyBBWise BBWise BBWise

ivory solstice
#

it was funny more then how it was impresif

wet condor
#

But he's coming back regardless

grand flower
stone terrace
#

That doesn't make it any less true

grand flower
#

Happened with Hachan and Gedatsu

#

Alvida lol

wet condor
#

Icon's right in that there isn't any big, particular plot point Kid where it's immediately obvious why he'd come back

#

But he's coming back regardless

final trench
#

Its implied he has it in the manga

#

He just need a mentor fr

ivory solstice
dense rapids
#

Gunko’s mom is gonna follow the opera house trope

She’s either gonna get kidnapped or kill someone during the opera

ivory solstice
wet condor
distant vine
wet condor
#

Majority of people who say that he isn't are trolling lol

ivory solstice
#

i love kid but those are funny af

distant vine
#

But, the other two do count

#

It doesnt take much for him to come back true

#

Some bandages and a boat is all

blazing depot
#

Gunko’s mom has got it going on