#also-manga

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hardy stratus
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that can be exploited

alpine trench
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Killingham is not Reversid

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Let’s get that fact set up straight

hardy stratus
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Yeah he's Omen'd

alpine trench
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And Omen that’s willingly taken to enhance his covenant powers

balmy field
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bro how are you making decision based on a fight mostly offscreen
and there was jimbei,franky too,

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are we ruling them out

alpine trench
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Killingham is a covenant holder, most likely depth covenant so he has the functional immortality and use of the abyss with him

hardy stratus
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The core point I am going off is
It would be boring for me if ACoC was the only way to beat Immortality

alpine trench
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Reversi’d people do not have that going with them

hardy stratus
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Reversi'd people also have a sort of Immortality to them

hasty sable
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It was definitely presented as ridiculously easy for them to subdue Killingham

hardy stratus
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Their arms were reattaching. And what not

hasty sable
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These Holy Knights are not super dangerous villains on their own to endgame straw hats. They’re only a threat with Omen.

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There was barely any effort. It was a very casual thing for them to take out Killingham and his nightmares.

hardy stratus
alpine trench
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They’re pretty significant if they’re on the return with significantly enhanced powers

balmy field
hardy stratus
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Would be based

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but its irrelevant and a tangent

alpine trench
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Omen is not actual ACoC, Maki/Omen has a different connotation that’s opposed to the will manifested/Haki

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It’s something devilish and otherworldly

hardy stratus
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Maybe. This is just a wish and not observation but I would want a reveal that changes our understanding of the powers

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and their implications

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I dig those sort of things

alpine trench
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Imu has Conquerors Haki already he used it to incapacitate the children when he arrived, Maki is something else that transcends Haki imo

urban kiln
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Id rather avoid conquerors haki gaining too many applications. I think OP benefits from Haki's simplicity. Doesn't detract from other elements of the story or power system.

hardy stratus
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ACoC as it is pretty boring

urban kiln
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yeah well it would suck if acoc was the only thing the story contained

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but devil fruits exist

alpine trench
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It seems like Omen/Maki is an implicit ability that comes with Imu’s fruit

hardy stratus
hasty sable
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Imu’s powers are definitely from the Devil’s Fruit

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He gets mystery box whatever he wants powers

urban kiln
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thats pushing it a bit

hasty sable
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I think the Devil’s Fruit probably lets him do anything he wants more or less

prisma yacht
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poop

hasty sable
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It’s “the source”

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He’s tapped into something greater than any individual power

hardy stratus
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I am again going off a random not theory just opinion of 3 trifecta of powers of 3 factions of w/e. DF being of one, Haki being of another and Ancient weapon of another.
So for that, Maki being ACoC would line up well.
Plus we have got stuff of each haki/advanced Haki called smth else. Mantra, Ryuo, and now maybe Omen

urban kiln
# hasty sable I think the Devil’s Fruit probably lets him do anything he wants more or less

I dont agree. I think there are still rules to his powers like anyone else.

Imagine if we saw Law's powers for the first time on a version of Law that had lived for 800 years and mastered his power to its fullest. Instead of us immediately getting clarification as to what his power does, and seeing it slowly build upon itself, we're getting everything at once at its fullest potential

hardy stratus
hasty sable
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He’s already been shown to be able to alter his body, shapeshift, create weapons, bring life to objects, conjure flames, empower others, etc.

hardy stratus
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I am happy

tranquil blade
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Omen/maki seems like basically a powerset where Imu can manipulate some kind of malevolent energy into different forms, but it's limitations are kinda unknown

hasty sable
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Do not think it is anything specific. But yeah it comes with caveats.

hardy stratus
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devil's fruit would work for that either

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As long ad it would be a precursor to DFs

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Goro happy

tranquil blade
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It could just be a ridiculously powerful devil fruit

runic dock
urban kiln
alpine trench
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So far the devil’s fruit gives Imu the ability to:

  • give out covenants to varying degrees of power
  • summon weapons of mass destruction from his grimoire
  • apply Domi Reversi and modify conditions to it to enhance power
  • make himself transform into a devilish form
  • use Omen as projectile weapons and enhance covenant holders
hardy stratus
iron oriole
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Or well thats Omen but Omen could be part of the DF

hardy stratus
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I ain't spitballing all the scenarios that it could occur but its not that far off

strong wadi
urban kiln
hardy stratus
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We back to possession theories

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ping Archer

tranquil blade
strong wadi
runic dock
strong wadi
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My personal opinion is that Imu became the new king of the world by taking over the power of Mu from the previous king of the world

alpine trench
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I don’t think it’s “Mu” specifically, but the devil itself having a greater presence in Imu

urban kiln
hardy stratus
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What I think is kinds in that line adam

alpine trench
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Imu talks to these age old characters as if they’re still existing and present in his eyes

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In that personal vein

runic dock
# hardy stratus My theory which Red hates

Th process of how they turned into fruits could be very Indirect tho , like they all lived and died normally , but someone brought their essence back through technology or whatever

hardy stratus
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With just some dark aspects to it

runic dock
strong wadi
hardy stratus
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I wouldn't really like that

runic dock
hardy stratus
alpine trench
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But Imu also talks to Ragnir who has existed since the age of the warrior god of Elbaf as though they personally knew each other

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We know that the warrior god and Nika were opponents

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So this assuming that there was a user of the Nidhogg fruit back when Imu was going around as a normal dude

urban kiln
# runic dock I think that as well , if there were actually legendary beings in the first era ...

If devil fruits are people's dreams manifest, then they're basically the opposite of Killingham's power in a sense. Nika doesn't have to have existed, for a fruit of Nika to exist, for example. It could just be a legend/a country's religion that caused someone to dream the existence of Luffy's/Joboy's DF. Similarly, even if these gods DID exist in the past, this doesn't mean that the devil fruit version is those gods TURNED INTO fruits. It could just be that the dreams of those believers caused that devil fruit to manifest in their image.

hardy stratus
strong wadi
runic dock
alpine trench
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It’s a hammer that became a squirrel

runic dock
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The image of god of war fighting

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Shows both hammer and squirrel side by side

iron oriole
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Yeah the God of War is wielding what appears to be current age Ragnir

alpine trench
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Yeah the squirrel fruit entered the hammer and animated it, assuming they’re one and the same now

urban kiln
iron oriole
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Smh power abuse

alpine trench
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I know what that page says

urban kiln
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can you point to the part that makes you say that

runic dock
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Tbh when ragnir said squeak squeak squeak I assumed he was telling him stuff from 800 years ago relevant G5Laugh

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“You bitch ass I remember your ass “

urban kiln
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yeah 800 years ago for sure

iron oriole
urban kiln
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but idk how that relates to prior to 800 years ago

hasty sable
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Sadge

urban kiln
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skill issue

hasty sable
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Red make me mod

iron oriole
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"I'M RAG THE MOTHER FUCKING NIR!!!!"

alpine trench
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I’m saying it implies that Imu is 900 years old (belonging to the second world from the mural) and that there was a Nidhogg fruit user that also had Ragnir by his side rather than this going back all the way to Nika and Warrior God who are mythical beings who are said to have existed even predating the Void Century, Joyboy possessed the Nika fruit (pretty obvious), and we’re probably gonna get an elaboration on who that user of the Nidhogg fruit back then was

hasty sable
iron oriole
# rose rune

Word for word, perfect translation by myself if i do say so

urban kiln
runic dock
runic dock
iron oriole
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True

alpine trench
urban kiln
runic dock
# urban kiln ah, I think I misunderstood. I thought you were saying their beef DID predate th...

Basically I think there may have been a real devilish being in the first era predating void , “Nerona imu” is the name of one of the 20 kings that was just a regular dude until he then ate the fruit that had the essence of this devilish being inside , but this devilish being basically took over his whole consciousness, like when luffy had a laughing fit he can’t control , but going all the way further with it

urban kiln
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I dont like that idea very much in the way you described it. Using the laughing fit as your example at least.

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I'd prefer Imu have their own agency

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in the decisions they made

runic dock
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Idk if it would go like that exactly , but I think there is something to zoans having a will of their own , and impel down jailer beasts having been the “wrong” kind of awakened where it seems the basic animal took over

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The gorosei themselves mention zoan wills

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I just think that’ll be explored more

iron oriole
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Lucci also feels much more like a cold bloodthirsty predator after awakening

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The whole like 0 care "i see prey" shit

urban kiln
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I don't interpret the zoan wills in the same way you do. I interpret them as the fruit itself having a will while in fruit form, because zoan fruit is in reference to a living thing. So before a person eats it, that fruit's will manifests in who eventually eats it. But I don't think that will is from an existing person that existed once upon a time

runic dock
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Hmmm we’ll see I suppose

urban kiln
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to clarify, "that fruit's will manifests in who eventually eats it" means its will is only shown in

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how it manages to maneuver

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and reach the mouth

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of the person that eats it

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not literally manifesting after being eaten

hardy stratus
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I think it has some sort of impact

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Luffy continuously laughing

urban kiln
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really dislike the idea of taking agency away from the characters choices in the story. The void century was the big deal. Who existed during the void century was the big deal. We're getting more info about the characters from that time period, with Imu, joyboy, ragnir, etc. I would loathe the idea of us getting all of this

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only to get ANOTHER flashback explaining the

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personalities that have been influencing the fruit eaters

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that predated even the void century

hardy stratus
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Again it depends on execution

iron oriole
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Fruits definitely seem to influence peoples personalities post eating

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Even Kaku is Giraffe obsessed now

urban kiln
runic dock
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Villains more experimental

urban kiln
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villains are important and we're too late to rugpull Imu's agency

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after giving him that agency currently

hardy stratus
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I think if it can add a point to free will, inherited will, destiny, fate, agency and make it more nuanced
Then I am up for it.
If it removes the existing nuances and simplifies it, I don't like it

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so again depends on what it is trying to say for the story

runic dock
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Even if I believe my thought all the way , I’d still believe Luffy kept his agency by having a more dominant will

runic dock
hardy stratus
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Just spitballing but maybe Imu is a case where he took extra power knowing it will rob some aspect of his agency for his purpose/goal

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it could add interesting

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again its just smth I came up with in 10 seconds so if I have more time, I could think of a good reason for it

urban kiln
# hardy stratus I think if it can add a point to free will, inherited will, destiny, fate, agenc...

I'm never going to be the type of person to say "this is bad because its not what I wanted/expected". If it ends up being true and well written, I'll be able to accept it even if I might like it marginally less. But I really would prefer the story didn't go in that direction. When outside forces start swaying actions like this, cliches tend to come into the mix more heavy handedly and things that might've set One Piece apart might start making it a lot more samey with other popular japanese media. There are a lot of plot points in a LOT of japanese media for their finales that feels homogenous at times and I'd like OP to avoid that

hardy stratus
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I was on same boat for say BB being son of Rocks but the execution has really sold me

urban kiln
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that doesn't really fall into what Im talking about tbh

balmy field
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whats the discussion about?

urban kiln
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all I can suggest you do is read lol

hardy stratus
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You talked about cliches

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and samey with others

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and not to feel homogenous with others

iron oriole
hardy stratus
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my point is, it depends on execution

iron oriole
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Oda just landed on making Rocks his father

urban kiln
# hardy stratus You talked about cliches

Im talking about more broad story affecting cliches. Not individual cliches that pile up. Theres like one very specific cliche ending that a lot of japanese fantasy finds itself falling into a lot

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that is all encompassing

hasty sable
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It was the dominant theory since we knew the name of his ship tbh

urban kiln
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and not just an individual character's relationship

iron oriole
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I imagine he didn't want to do a copy for BB where he just met Rocks sometime & was influenced by him like Shanks for Luffy

hardy stratus
urban kiln
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^

hardy stratus
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I don't follow Red

rose rune
hardy stratus
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But ig its just too much in hypothetical so like not really much of a point to discuss at this point ig

urban kiln
# hardy stratus I don't follow Red

Im trying not to reference any individual other series but I think you've read enough japanese media to know the most common ending that japanese written fantasy stories fall into

runic dock
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I’m sure the very next scene of bb will name it G5Laugh

ruby cape
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!chop

tropic novaBOT
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Next chapter comes out on <t:1779634800:F> <t:1779634800:R> (time zone adjusted)

balmy field
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!choptir2

tropic novaBOT
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WHER IZ MUH FREE CHUPTUR REEEEEEEEEEEE (sunday you fucking fool, shut up and wait for your ping) 👺

hardy stratus
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fate is a central theme since the start

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"destiny or dream" is established in the start

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It's not like other series where it comes into play in like last 10%

urban kiln
hardy stratus
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unless I am still misunderstanding what you are telling

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Idk. Oda hasn't really disappointed me in any big threads so I am positive for whatever he does

urban kiln
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I dont think Id dislike what hed do even if its cliche

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just want to have faith he'd create something more unique

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in the end

twin thicket
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Chapter day HappyBeard

hardy stratus
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go finish LAoK ibstrsf nerd

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It's been 5 months

twin thicket
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You should know I finished it already

hardy stratus
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Oh shoot

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I think its not the first time I forgot about it

twin thicket
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It's not QueenKEKW

hardy stratus
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Well w/e go read Isako then

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and tell me if I should read it

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be my taste tester

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why read OP 2 days earlier

twin thicket
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Perhaps CrocThink

digital spear
hardy stratus
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You can finish a 400-500 page book in 2 days

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and then discuss OP with me when I read it

hardy stratus
digital spear
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he's my bro

digital spear
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Azua and me go way back

hardy stratus
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He and me go back even further

hardy stratus
prisma yacht
hardy stratus
# prisma yacht Son

It's an author whose 2 books I dropped previously who now wrote in my fav genre

hasty sable
hardy stratus
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so I need to sacrifice someone else's Time

hardy stratus
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Archer go read Last Contract of Isako. By Green Bone Saga author

hasty sable
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Good trilogy. I like it a lot but some people don’t lol

hardy stratus
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And tell me if its good or bad

hardy stratus
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Fonda lee?

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Anyway its a cyberpunk samurai espionage story. I need someone to taste test it for me

hasty sable
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I’ll look into it

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I am reading Mars Trilogy rn and my SO wants to read the Sparrow together

hardy stratus
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Weren't you on mars trilogy months ago

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like early feb

hardy stratus
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Idk she calls them samurai but they do ninja work

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According to blurb

hasty sable
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Feb? Don’t think so. It’s been in my radar but I got held up

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I am almost through Red Mars now

hardy stratus
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nice

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oh yeah read Way Station if you are still in that era of scifi

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It won a hugo

hasty sable
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I’ll look into it 👌

hardy stratus
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I need more people on it. Only found like 4-5 people who read it

hasty sable
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Very interested in The Culture series

hardy stratus
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Ian banks?

hasty sable
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Yep

hardy stratus
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It's a classic but never really interested me much

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I usually prefer short books in those era of scifi books

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sub 400 pages

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Preferably standalone

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more imaginative. Less series baggage

digital spear
hasty sable
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Makes sense

hardy stratus
hasty sable
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West? I thought you said weast

hardy stratus
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I tried to stop Azua from reading t*b

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And it turned into western series talk...

hasty sable
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I too try to stop people from reading Thriller Bark

hardy stratus
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Luci would be sad at you

digital spear
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True. They dont deserve to read peak

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We need to gatekeep it

hasty sable
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Stop! Leave that man alone!

iron oriole
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Epic owe Oda royalties for coming up with Fortnite in Thriller Bark

hasty sable
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Thriller Bark has all the best character laughs

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Fos Fos Fos Fos!

ashen perch
hardy stratus
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I helped your cause

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Turning people to official

ashen perch
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lmao hey I didnt say it was a bad thing smh

cyan sandal
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It’s exactly my 4th year when I started one piece

iron oriole
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young 'en

hardy stratus
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Me in my 12th year

alpine trench
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14 years this year reading OP ongoing

iron oriole
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been reading weekly since Dressrosa

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idr exactly but thats what like 13 years?

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watched for years before that though

twin thicket
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Young azua could do it

ruby cape
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!chop

tropic novaBOT
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Next chapter comes out on <t:1779634800:F> <t:1779634800:R> (time zone adjusted)

ruby cape
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that’s like 2 days bro

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why not now

restive lintel
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Is it just me or embeds gone for everyone?

hardy stratus
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so people won't mention spoiler images

restive lintel
ruby cape
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yeah blame ArsalUnwise bro

hardy stratus
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From last chapter

frail kindle
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@ashen perch even in death, they're blaming you

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the hero we needed, but don't deserve

balmy field
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yo glex

hardy stratus
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a watchful protector

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The Feet Knight 🔥

frail kindle
next estuary
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Okay

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Oh hi Glex

frail kindle
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Hi

next estuary
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They give you a severance package too?

balmy field
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Hi

frail kindle
next estuary
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I also quit lmao

frail kindle
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Should have taken the package

next estuary
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Needed to touch some grass

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Get my life together

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Lost 15lbs tho

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Got rid of the discord staff fat

prisma yacht
stray prism
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6.7+0.1 kgs sheesh

hardy stratus
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Seek help

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Genuinely

ruby cape
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I forgot bro

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!chop

tropic novaBOT
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Next chapter comes out on <t:1779634800:F> <t:1779634800:R> (time zone adjusted)

prisma yacht
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SIXSEVENNN

prisma yacht
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Yes it's that time of the week

spice cairn
hazy turret
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Here’s to 30 more 🤞

prisma yacht
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Pretend I insert cat tummy poke gif

stray prism
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haha

prisma yacht
hazy turret
pulsar path
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Do you think they will ever show what happened at egghead in full detail?

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Like the time skip

burnt depot
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nope

pulsar path
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I guess no 😔

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That's the one piece movie

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Next one the off screen night of egghead

grand flower
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It’s insulting

grand flower
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Oh my god?

prisma yacht
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Grrrr

ruby cape
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If you got embeds you smelll shiiiiittttttt🤣

trim lily
twin thicket
frigid gulch
prisma yacht
stray prism
scenic dirge
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Hope this helps one of you today

barren token
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Well

hazy turret
barren token
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Not infinite chances

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You would have to live an infinite amount of time

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To have infinite chances

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But you might have a lot of chances regardless

tranquil blade
hazy turret
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Wtf??

grand flower
tranquil blade
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It's like a wealth gap but for embeds

grand flower
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^^^

prisma yacht
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Rok the larper

hazy turret
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It’s called solidarity

ruby cape
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Solarpdarity

prisma yacht
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👨‍🦼‍➡️

grand flower
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It’s like Malcolm said

hazy turret
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In the middle??

tranquil blade
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son

rose rune
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classic rokaya

hazy turret
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I love Hal and Dewey and Francis and the mom

tranquil blade
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and the mom

rose rune
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I just hated that show, so I never really watched it properly

hazy turret
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Yeah she’s funny

hazy turret
rose rune
hazy turret
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Basically

rose rune
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it is the only way to consume media after all

hazy turret
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It’s the superior way

prisma yacht
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Larp larp sahur

tranquil blade
hazy turret
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This might be the most dead the servers ever been

ashen perch
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thats definitely not true

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I have seen way worse

tranquil blade
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sports channel at least kinda stays alive

ashen perch
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also tbh the amount of channels makes ''dead'' feel worse

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like back in the day, before #also-manga was a thing, it'd still feel alive even if there were only like 5 people in #manga

stray prism
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We need all 400k people to chat here

scenic dirge
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Oda’s so washed man

royal orchid
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oda is a hack

hazy turret
quiet ice
hazy turret
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Like manga is the only active channel

quiet ice
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All the regulars died

prisma yacht
hazy turret
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💔

stray prism
ashen perch
digital spear
tropic novaBOT
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🆗 , channel slowmode was updated, it is now set to 6 hours

ruby cape
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yo release the chap mods

prisma yacht
tropic novaBOT
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🆗 , channel slowmode was updated, it is now set to 6 hours

ruby cape
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I swear bro it’s gonna get long bro

ashen perch
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sunday mate!!

scenic dirge
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That’s it

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I’m unleashing choc back into the wild

ashen perch
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tbhhhhhhhhhhh

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not a bad idea

scenic dirge
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He’d be fine lol

hazy turret
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Desperate times call for desperate measures

scenic dirge
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I just don’t think he gives a shit about one piece anymore

ashen perch
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yeah the problem is that he's just not caught up

digital spear
ashen perch
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I feel like he'd like it if he was smh

scenic dirge
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Ehhh

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Idk 😭

ashen perch
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Its been kinda good!!

hazy turret
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Kinda 😭

digital spear
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yeah idk about that but hed have a lot to talk about

ashen perch
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I understand why he was hating in Wano because ts kinda sucked I am ngl to you

hazy turret
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Bro doesn’t even believe what he’s saying

scenic dirge
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Idk if he’d like some of the haki/demon WG stuff but he’d probably like the general narrative

scenic dirge
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I thought you defended Wano with me

digital spear
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hed have liked it and then disliked it again

scenic dirge
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But you’re just another one of them

ashen perch
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I do defend Wano but I also understand why he was losing his mind tbh

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cause I mean who wasnt

hazy turret
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Arsal switched up when he saw Wano starting to get praise

scenic dirge
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Well yeah there’s a lot of bullshit

ashen perch
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theres a LOT

scenic dirge
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But even more epicness and swag

digital spear
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I thought you were different Arsal I thought you werent like all the other boys

ashen perch
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I try to look past the bullshit and say things like ''well he got the big stuff right'' but it can be kinda hard

hazy turret
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Wano was awesome:
Rooftop was epic
Lore drop
Kid 3b bounty
Yamato not joining

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What’s there NOT to love

ashen perch
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I love Elbaf though genuinely frfr, I think its the type of arc that would bring back a fan tbh

scenic dirge
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Post ts rankings so far (not including Elbaf)

WCI > Wano > Dressrosa > Zou > Egghead > FMI > PH

hazy turret
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Except for nika zoan

scenic dirge
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Elbaf will probably end up between Wano and Dressrosa for me

ashen perch
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Nika's one of the peaks actually

hazy turret
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Nika lore is fine
Nika zoan however

scenic dirge
ashen perch
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also sick

scenic dirge
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People talk about egghead like it saved one piece

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😭

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From the evils of Wano

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Pissed me off lowkey

hazy turret
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Egghead sucked

rose rune
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hey guys, did you know that egghead saved one piece?

ashen perch
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its WCI>Dressrosa>FMI>Wano>Egghead>Zou>Punk Hazard tbh

digital spear
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He’s contained to games

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I dont even really hate Punk Hazard but it really is THE choice for the worst post ts arc

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Ofc

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he's @ reformed user or something like that

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am I not your friend

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I'm not really that high on dressrosa

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PH is a fine arc but to me it’s the epitome of mid as far as one piece arcs go

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Wano > Dressrosa > WCI > PH > Egghead > FMI > Zou

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Quite frank

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Put WCI above Dressrosa

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It edges against Wano for me

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Dressrosa mogs

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Elbaf could pretty easily be #3 after WCI and Dressrosa but its too early to tell

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You don’t mog

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we're only halfway through the arc!

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🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Egghead > WCI > Wano > Zou > Dressrosa > PH
is probably how I would rank it

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What’s better about Dressrosa than Wano is my question? I feel like the complaints for both of them are similar in nature but the peaks of Wano are just soooo much better than the peaks of Dressrosa to me

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Dressrosa is a miracle in how smoothly Oda manages to juggle a billion characters and their storylines at once

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Wano Oda could never

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# hazy turret Better villain, better backstories?

Backstories sure but I think the villains in Wano serve what they’re supposed to. It felt like such a huge event like holy fuck, we’re taking on the strongest pirates in the world in an all out war

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Doffy still the goat tho yea

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we got plenty of characters and lore

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I also think people hate waaaaay too much on the Wano side cast. It’s one of the strongest in the series for me

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and yeah there's a lot to love, Doffy's still the best villain in the series, Law's flashback is incredible, the Doflamingo fight is incredible and hass one of the most satisfying conclusions to an arc in the series

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too bad the anime butchered it

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skinned it alive

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seared it evenly on both sides

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Doffy was a sick twisted manipulative FREAK

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Yeah he’s the best villain

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Wait

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I actually like doffy more before dressrosa

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Idk why I never put this together but is your name inspired by Doffy at all @trim lily

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partially

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Dressrosa also has so many characters and Oda actually has the ability to handle them properly there

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just a skill issue from Wano Oda...

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the problem with wano is that everything is so condensed and rushed

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in onigashima

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Wano Oda gave you your first proper Robin fight you ungrateful insect

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well dressrosa had its own fair share of forgettable characters but a little less than wano

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act 1 and act 2 were fine

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but act 3 is when oda felt like just skipping to luffy vs kaido

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because that's where the narrative in onigashima was at its strongest

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like the Robin fight is actually perfect

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its like Oda knew he couldnt mess that up

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Wano side cast hard mogs the Dressrosa one I’m sorry Caught

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Easy

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Actually could not care less about half the mfs in Dressrosa

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Easy on cavendish

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unfortunately dressrosa has orlumbus so it clears

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Chill on cavendish

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dressrosa characters are silly but they literally contributed more to liberating a country than the characters in wano did

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I do love the Wano sidecast but unfortunately Oda doesnt

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Bartolomeo don’t know if I really care bout the fella

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Chill

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Chill on bargo

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Barto

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All the Akazaya on the other hand

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Especially Kawamatsu

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Just cause he’s dope

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Barto and cavendish are the only grand fleet members that matter anyways

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Chill on cavendish and barto

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Brother no one cares about kawamatsu

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And haj

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I’m right here bro

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Chill

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haj doesnt matter sadly

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I feel like Dressrosa would be one of my favorite arcs if I actually gave a fuck about most of the characters more

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Chill on Kawamatsu

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I care about orlombus tho. he's a fun guy

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Bro said hajrudin matters 🤣🤣🤣

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Chill

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kawamatsu was sidelined so hard lmao

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Chill on Hajrudin

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Chill on every character bro

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Chill on Maz

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like oda just felt like stopping devloping him past his backstory

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Chill on YC

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Like the coliseum characters are so snoozer

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chill on the big Haj

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Chill

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Chill on the coliseum characters

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Kawamatsu brings the scabbards down so hard it’s not even funny

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Chill on them

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But I liked it....

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I'm so glad fellow Denjiro haters exist

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i liked kinemon's development, he went from being a rogue samurai who refused any help from a pirate to a humbled defeated warrior begging luffy to save wano

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The characters in Dressrosa are great though, the Grand Fleet are all fun and cool, Law, Kyros and Fujitora are like the best side characters in the series, Sabo, Koala and Hack were also great in the arc, I liked Rebecca and Riku too personally and Gyattz was da goat. The villains are all super fun too aside from Machvise. I dunno, lots to love

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What are you talking about

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I love the scabbards and I'd never stop loving them but Oda did them really dirty

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the kawamatsu haters lurk in the shadows

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Well they fill out the cast of that arc. Half the Doffy pirates are lame, most the grand fleet characters are pretty forgettable. Obviously Dressrosa has some absolute goats like Kyros and Cora but man. I was invested like 10x more in the scabbards, the Kozukis, Yasuie etc..

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Dressrosa Oda wouldnt have fumbled

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Mainly anime watchers who don’t give a shit about Rebecca probably

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Ask what they think of Rebecca in 2 chats you’d get different answers

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The scabbards just shouldn't have gotten up after kaido beat them

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i often forget the flag fruit guy exists

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Kawamatsu is super fun and cool and then Oda's like ''what if I had him do nothing''

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That's part of why he sucks Rokaya

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What good came out of it

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Orochi should have just burned to death

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It would have been way better

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I like Barto and Cavendish but I couldn’t tell you bout the rest of the fleet

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I dont have any issue with them getting up but Oda handles them really poorly in the arc

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Nahhh denjiro deserved to get a hit on him

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i'm surprised oda even killed off izo and ashura doji

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Hr already did tho

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That's the issue

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They all cut him

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Wano also has momo the goat

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He already cut a head

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No that’s not the same

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Then Denjiro ran in a circle to cut him again

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And then when he appears he does the same thing again

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Can you imagine the pain and suffering of working for the guy for like two decades

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After disappearing for longer than a full irl year

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Im shocked oda killed off izo but just because his death came out of nowhere

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whyd he have to kill izo of all people

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one of the few good ones

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Denjiro was really the best option after Oda FAILED at making Hiyori a swordsman like I wanted him to

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Literally all the tobi roppo, Queen, King and even BM go down while this fucking guy was running around

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So when sanji or Robin disappear for a million chapters to come back and do something grand in the nick of time no one has a problem

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robin is kinda like denjiro true

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People like when robin or sanji leave for millions of chapters because no one likes them

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And they ruin every chapter theyre in

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Roflllll

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I think someone pointed out that Denjiro actually did just run in a circle if you look at where Hiyori was and where he left from

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but I'd need to reread the arc for that

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doing laps

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I dont think that was the issue at all

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He's such a poorly handled character it's actually insane

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the issue was Oda

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I love every single scabbard and wouldnt want them to go lol

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if i was writing id have 18 akazaya and theyd all be great

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well 9 is fine but yes

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I mean

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If the issue is the writer than

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They're shouldn't have been 9

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There should have been 1

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And let that be Kawamatsu

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A guy as tall and large as 9 guys

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Kawamazu

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Kanjuro, kin, and raizo were the best

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only 4 or 5 of them actually did things after losing to Kaido and each thing sucked ass more than the other

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And when kaido hits them he turns into 9 smaller guys

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Raizo excluded

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I like the scabbards

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no??

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I like all the scabbards

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and hey, I like the scabbards I'm just saying maybe things would've been different if they were like 4 or 5

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My favourite scabbard is kiku

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Neko and Inuarashi have the bottom 2 worst fights of all time in the series, trust me that really isnt the issue

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:)

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Some are obviously way better than the others, but I wouldn't remove any of them

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For the significance of Momo

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I'd be sad in a one piece world without Kiku

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Miku

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but I'm glad Oda did Wano before Final War

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Oh yeah Cat and Dog exist, nevermind

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Fuck them

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Senile bums

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imagine if Oda messed Final War up, I would go crazy

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Dressrosa Oda would have handled every scabbard right

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I don't know

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I dint know if he would have

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no trust me I know

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No I think I know

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I know better sorry

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Oda is my dad btw

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and I am his dad now what

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And I asked him just now and he said he would have fumbled either way

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do you guys think Final War will be a mess?

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mayb

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hopefully not!

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120 chapters of luffy fighting people

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No more human limitations

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Ideally Oda would have every single thing mapped out about it after taking a 3 months break to specifically plan out the final war

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Map it out all he wants its not changing the root of the issue

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I'm ngl I did not care about a lot of the side characters in Dressrosa, like some of them were cool but a lot of the colosseum fighters and a few of the doffy pirates were just like nothingburgers

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not mapping out is the core issue

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He old and trying to get one piece finished sooner rather than later

hot cairn
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hes already almost to retirement age

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The machine is the only way

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Once we put his brain in there

hazy turret
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we should have a one year break

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people said they wanted a timeskip didnt they

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One year break this server would start formulating new bullshit we haven’t seen before

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Wano and dressrosa are better

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We just let oda live the retirement life for like 5 years, then he comes back and spends his actual retirement age writing one piece for another 20 years

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I agree with Avery

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oda been teasing the final war since pre ts so i think he knows what he's doing

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I disagree with Rokaya

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everything he's doing rn he's making sure he's properly setting everything up

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Koya rokaya is wrong

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🖕

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Koya

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Rokaya is wrong

upbeat yarrow
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Koya rokaya is wrong

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🖕

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Wow

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oh a new one piece academy chapter dropped

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huge

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WCI's side cast isnt good just because Carrot exists

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oda could never

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It’s just dense

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this is the correct answer

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Carrot is excellent in WCI

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it should have just been saturn

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Its Wano Oda who once again is to blame for Carrot's downfall

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bringing in all the gorosei felt like it was just done for the sake of aura

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Aura

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every evil, since the dawn of time, can be attributed to Wano Oda and partially to Egghead Oda

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Some Carrot hate might just be mink racism tbh #WeNeedToStartAConversation

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just did a Socrates

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If Wano and Egghead is evil Oda let Oda remain evil

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I really dont mind how messy wano is or how Egghead is super fast paced

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both arcs are still PEAK

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Me neither

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he actually turned good this arc, evil Oda is gone thankfully

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It’s dense with information but I don’t think that makes it necessarily messy that its abrupt, same with Egghead, the general introduction with the Elders and their abilities and Bonney and Kuma backstory was only right to be enjoyable

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Best arcs in the game (let WCI slip in tho)

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He’s going 3 for 3 with Elbaf now

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so true

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all is true

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I really dont mind all the gorosei going to egghead, giving us a showcase of their powers before final war was a good idea

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just like bringing Imu to Elbaph

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Egghead good wano mid

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Guys

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I still think egghead isnt tbat good

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I kinda think its tbe 2nd worst post time skio arc

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I can kinda agree, but it does have a really good flashback

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They're calling it the 3rd best post time skip flashback

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there are like 5 post ts arcs

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It's personally my favorite but I can see why some would like say the Oden flashback or Law's flashback more

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Yay!

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Chinjao flashback #1 forsure forsure

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(It's law and fmi)

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1st is haralds

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Chinjao can hv the 2nd spot

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No because Rocks is there

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Erm cancels out with harald being there

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Which makes it an okay flashback

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Hello?

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Not to mention there's garp and sengoku as well

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Nice gif

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It’s Chooper

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Loser

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Thanks

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Fucking loser

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Like chopper

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Ky s

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Kiss yourself

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Mods

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😚

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Ban this dude

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Mwah mwah

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Mods took my gifs away

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Can’t live under these authoritarian conditions

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Anyway yeah chopper is my favourite flashback as well ;)

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That wasnt supposed to be a wink

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I wasnt being mischievous in any way there

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I dont want you

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  1. Fisher Tiger
  2. Pedro (gold)
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votes for past two days since i can't post images

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Overall Oda is making W's MASSIVELY more than L's

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Wano is not perfect but I feel it’s the arc that Oda put the most of his energy into drawing if that makes sense

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You can feel how much he caresses about that arc

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I can see that yeah

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Its the end of an era and he treats it that way

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it's not that good so it's worth going into egghead which is better

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skipping Wano? you're absolutely trippin

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ragebait

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you could probably skip the kin'emon and kiku stuff in the raid and not lose anything of value though 🤭

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Wano has more Zoro and Law action so its better

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Son

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That's a unique shrine

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I kinda respect it

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Why are none of the foxes silver

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The Stelly shrine was probably the most unique bunch of them all I’ve seen

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dangit no embeds

hazy turret
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does anything really happen in wano

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True

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caresses

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!endofarc

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dressrosa is good vro

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idkk

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d

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d

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d

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Look at them in their ivory embeds

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Needing lvl 10 to send pictures and gifs are so stupid

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Maybe one more time

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idk why severs do that

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Like those bits that post porn

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Bots*

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oh yea

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and theres real ppl making them do this

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MoriaFeels what has the world come to

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ODA'S BACK

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Embeds are not allowed anyway

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mfers weren't around when g5 was first revealed

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you wouldn't be asking why embeds are turned off

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those wb gifs remind me that bb has another form of fast travel in generatnig seaquakes

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When is the new chapter dropping

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sunday

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Doesn't tcb scan drop them early

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Like on friday

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Fr?

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yes

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Oh shi ye

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Thanks mate

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np

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oh right

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embeds gone, it's just cool nami fan art though

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Abuse of power

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-10 moderator points

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The council will discuss this

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I was just... helping

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I'm a helper

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-100 moderator points. Talking back to a superior officer

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NO

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the server is kinda dead

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tell them guys

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No you ARENT supposed to smh smh

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We laugh at users

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Shuron was so right

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You celestial dragons

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im sayin bro

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No embeds

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Fuck

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Luta

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Can Sunday evening just arrive already

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dude its friday dont wish the weekend away

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its cool i wouldnt trade lol

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its memorial day this weekend in the us which is nice

thick mango
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does trnaslation work for you it says unable to fetch for me

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i guess i can copypaste and tanslate elsewhere

hazy turret
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Grok translations suck

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Better off using something like DeepL

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ah so the anime getting there huh thatll be cool

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im so behind on anime i was waiting for egghead to finish

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i'm saying it's killing anime onlines when the episode drops for the west watchers

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from the contests of said episode

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great day to watch people cry i think

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Japan desuwa

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Sonotori dayo

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yokoso watashi larp society-wa

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they’re gonna farm so many crying thumbnails

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If only I could send that one thumbnail of the guy who was crying to kumas backstory

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Do y'all remember that

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crying with snot everywhere etc right

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the only kuma related video i know of is kuma happy moments

thick maple
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Michael angelo

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glorpshit i forgot i can’t send images

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maybe i should become a helper after all

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i'm honestly considereing applying for real so i can send images when we are on lock mode

fallen meteor
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real helpers abuse their authority

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Tbh this can’t be forever

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i feel like its rude to send images when others cant

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Half the week I can’t send images or gifs?

thick mango
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hopefully we only gotta do like one or two more cycles of this . it is intended to be temporary

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Make everyone mod

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Then we can ban each other if we share leaks

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surely people wont abuse it

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I want to share Dressrosa pages damn it

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and pineapple unc

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Can’t say shit. I don’t care about everyone else lol

thick mango
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hey i can only speak for me. but hoping we only do this one or two more times

hazy turret
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discrimination against kid fans probably

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i support the discrimination