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Yeah he's Omen'd
And Omen that’s willingly taken to enhance his covenant powers
bro how are you making decision based on a fight mostly offscreen
and there was jimbei,franky too,
are we ruling them out
Killingham is a covenant holder, most likely depth covenant so he has the functional immortality and use of the abyss with him
The core point I am going off is
It would be boring for me if ACoC was the only way to beat Immortality
Reversi’d people do not have that going with them
Reversi'd people also have a sort of Immortality to them
“I think we got too strong” said Franky. And we were shown it was Sanji who took out Killingham and who Killy had a grudge against.
It was definitely presented as ridiculously easy for them to subdue Killingham
Their arms were reattaching. And what not
"with efforts"
These Holy Knights are not super dangerous villains on their own to endgame straw hats. They’re only a threat with Omen.
There was barely any effort. It was a very casual thing for them to take out Killingham and his nightmares.
For all we know, Omen might just be actual ACoC
They’re pretty significant if they’re on the return with significantly enhanced powers
would be lame imo
Omen is not actual ACoC, Maki/Omen has a different connotation that’s opposed to the will manifested/Haki
It’s something devilish and otherworldly
That speech Imu gave 2 chapters ago?
Maybe. This is just a wish and not observation but I would want a reveal that changes our understanding of the powers
and their implications
I dig those sort of things
Imu has Conquerors Haki already he used it to incapacitate the children when he arrived, Maki is something else that transcends Haki imo
Id rather avoid conquerors haki gaining too many applications. I think OP benefits from Haki's simplicity. Doesn't detract from other elements of the story or power system.
ACoC as it is pretty boring
yeah well it would suck if acoc was the only thing the story contained
but devil fruits exist
It seems like Omen/Maki is an implicit ability that comes with Imu’s fruit
Yeah which are varied enough
Imu’s powers are definitely from the Devil’s Fruit
He gets mystery box whatever he wants powers
thats pushing it a bit
I think the Devil’s Fruit probably lets him do anything he wants more or less
poop
I am again going off a random not theory just opinion of 3 trifecta of powers of 3 factions of w/e. DF being of one, Haki being of another and Ancient weapon of another.
So for that, Maki being ACoC would line up well.
Plus we have got stuff of each haki/advanced Haki called smth else. Mantra, Ryuo, and now maybe Omen
I dont agree. I think there are still rules to his powers like anyone else.
Imagine if we saw Law's powers for the first time on a version of Law that had lived for 800 years and mastered his power to its fullest. Instead of us immediately getting clarification as to what his power does, and seeing it slowly build upon itself, we're getting everything at once at its fullest potential
As long as its not a devil fruit and something before Devil fruits
He’s already been shown to be able to alter his body, shapeshift, create weapons, bring life to objects, conjure flames, empower others, etc.
I am happy
Omen/maki seems like basically a powerset where Imu can manipulate some kind of malevolent energy into different forms, but it's limitations are kinda unknown
Do not think it is anything specific. But yeah it comes with caveats.
devil's fruit would work for that either
As long ad it would be a precursor to DFs
Goro happy
It could just be a ridiculously powerful devil fruit
Yeah ,there is some kind of limit due to his coughing fits and Sommers clarification , may be hints to those “rules”
It cant be before devil fruits imo. Joyboy had a devil fruit. Unless we think Imu just existed for way longer than 800 years
So far the devil’s fruit gives Imu the ability to:
- give out covenants to varying degrees of power
- summon weapons of mass destruction from his grimoire
- apply Domi Reversi and modify conditions to it to enhance power
- make himself transform into a devilish form
- use Omen as projectile weapons and enhance covenant holders
Can be some remnant of powers before DFs existing and Imu taking that
Gigiantification too
Or well thats Omen but Omen could be part of the DF
I ain't spitballing all the scenarios that it could occur but its not that far off
It's giving "Mu" has always been around but "Imu" of the joyboy/imu/lili trio is only 800 years.
are you implying that "Mu's" consciousness overtook Imu
Oh you mean the idea that this power has existed as far back as the first world but Imu is just the most recent person to be consumed by it?
I'm not sure that's right either, just that Mu is some powerful force we don't quite understand
I think that as well , if there were actually legendary beings in the first era , they turned into fruits
My theory which Red hates
My personal opinion is that Imu became the new king of the world by taking over the power of Mu from the previous king of the world
That's valid
I don’t think it’s “Mu” specifically, but the devil itself having a greater presence in Imu
Imu's connection to the characters of 800 years ago is far too personal. Can't be posession
What I think is kinds in that line adam
Imu talks to these age old characters as if they’re still existing and present in his eyes
In that personal vein
Th process of how they turned into fruits could be very Indirect tho , like they all lived and died normally , but someone brought their essence back through technology or whatever
Exactly what I was going btw
With just some dark aspects to it

Imu is likely just influenced in the way that the holy knights are influenced but are still "themselves"
I wouldn't really like that
I think that’s part of his actually persona , for example , the scene of him laughing with joyboy is before any possession , imo
you mean by some sort of Intent or Command by the power?
But Imu also talks to Ragnir who has existed since the age of the warrior god of Elbaf as though they personally knew each other
We know that the warrior god and Nika were opponents
So this assuming that there was a user of the Nidhogg fruit back when Imu was going around as a normal dude
If devil fruits are people's dreams manifest, then they're basically the opposite of Killingham's power in a sense. Nika doesn't have to have existed, for a fruit of Nika to exist, for example. It could just be a legend/a country's religion that caused someone to dream the existence of Luffy's/Joboy's DF. Similarly, even if these gods DID exist in the past, this doesn't mean that the devil fruit version is those gods TURNED INTO fruits. It could just be that the dreams of those believers caused that devil fruit to manifest in their image.
They are driven by need to do smth or a command to do some certain action while still having the will?
Yeah. The classic "corrupted by power" thing and some personality influences.
I could very much buy that last part , that’d be fine with me as well , it’s just when we look at ratatoskr , he seemed to at one point exist seperate from the hammer
It’s a hammer that became a squirrel
Yeah the God of War is wielding what appears to be current age Ragnir
Yeah the squirrel fruit entered the hammer and animated it, assuming they’re one and the same now
I dont think this implies anything about what you're saying here
Smh power abuse
I know what that page says
can you point to the part that makes you say that
Tbh when ragnir said squeak squeak squeak I assumed he was telling him stuff from 800 years ago relevant 
“You bitch ass I remember your ass “
yeah 800 years ago for sure
Nah he said "thats right bitch, what you gonna do"
but idk how that relates to prior to 800 years ago
Sadge
skill issue
Red make me mod
"I'M RAG THE MOTHER FUCKING NIR!!!!"
I’m saying it implies that Imu is 900 years old (belonging to the second world from the mural) and that there was a Nidhogg fruit user that also had Ragnir by his side rather than this going back all the way to Nika and Warrior God who are mythical beings who are said to have existed even predating the Void Century, Joyboy possessed the Nika fruit (pretty obvious), and we’re probably gonna get an elaboration on who that user of the Nidhogg fruit back then was

ah, I think I misunderstood. I thought you were saying their beef DID predate the void century
Ragnir was ripped af 800 years ago too
True
From what I read of the page and that moment, with Imu reminiscing on Nidhogg so much, we need to soon get an idea as to who Imu knew back then who possessed the fruit like Loki, presumably another king of Elbaf or someone else who the story can deem important enough to be of significance to Imu
I agree, I just thought you were saying something else
Basically I think there may have been a real devilish being in the first era predating void , “Nerona imu” is the name of one of the 20 kings that was just a regular dude until he then ate the fruit that had the essence of this devilish being inside , but this devilish being basically took over his whole consciousness, like when luffy had a laughing fit he can’t control , but going all the way further with it
I dont like that idea very much in the way you described it. Using the laughing fit as your example at least.
I'd prefer Imu have their own agency
in the decisions they made
Idk if it would go like that exactly , but I think there is something to zoans having a will of their own , and impel down jailer beasts having been the “wrong” kind of awakened where it seems the basic animal took over
The gorosei themselves mention zoan wills
I just think that’ll be explored more
Lucci also feels much more like a cold bloodthirsty predator after awakening
The whole like 0 care "i see prey" shit
I don't interpret the zoan wills in the same way you do. I interpret them as the fruit itself having a will while in fruit form, because zoan fruit is in reference to a living thing. So before a person eats it, that fruit's will manifests in who eventually eats it. But I don't think that will is from an existing person that existed once upon a time
Hmmm we’ll see I suppose
to clarify, "that fruit's will manifests in who eventually eats it" means its will is only shown in
how it manages to maneuver
and reach the mouth
of the person that eats it
not literally manifesting after being eaten
really dislike the idea of taking agency away from the characters choices in the story. The void century was the big deal. Who existed during the void century was the big deal. We're getting more info about the characters from that time period, with Imu, joyboy, ragnir, etc. I would loathe the idea of us getting all of this
only to get ANOTHER flashback explaining the
personalities that have been influencing the fruit eaters
that predated even the void century
Again it depends on execution
Fruits definitely seem to influence peoples personalities post eating
Even Kaku is Giraffe obsessed now
I view that as animalistic qualities taking effect when in that form, not literally the will of an existence beyond luffy's.
I would prefer luffy always kept his agency , im fine with villains being mixed bags tho personally
Villains more experimental
villains are important and we're too late to rugpull Imu's agency
after giving him that agency currently
I think if it can add a point to free will, inherited will, destiny, fate, agency and make it more nuanced
Then I am up for it.
If it removes the existing nuances and simplifies it, I don't like it
so again depends on what it is trying to say for the story
Even if I believe my thought all the way , I’d still believe Luffy kept his agency by having a more dominant will
Bb fina villain anyway 
Just spitballing but maybe Imu is a case where he took extra power knowing it will rob some aspect of his agency for his purpose/goal
it could add interesting
again its just smth I came up with in 10 seconds so if I have more time, I could think of a good reason for it
I'm never going to be the type of person to say "this is bad because its not what I wanted/expected". If it ends up being true and well written, I'll be able to accept it even if I might like it marginally less. But I really would prefer the story didn't go in that direction. When outside forces start swaying actions like this, cliches tend to come into the mix more heavy handedly and things that might've set One Piece apart might start making it a lot more samey with other popular japanese media. There are a lot of plot points in a LOT of japanese media for their finales that feels homogenous at times and I'd like OP to avoid that
I was on same boat for say BB being son of Rocks but the execution has really sold me
that doesn't really fall into what Im talking about tbh
whats the discussion about?
all I can suggest you do is read lol
You talked about cliches
and samey with others
and not to feel homogenous with others
There was always going to be some sort of story between them
my point is, it depends on execution
Oda just landed on making Rocks his father
Im talking about more broad story affecting cliches. Not individual cliches that pile up. Theres like one very specific cliche ending that a lot of japanese fantasy finds itself falling into a lot
that is all encompassing
It was the dominant theory since we knew the name of his ship tbh
and not just an individual character's relationship
I imagine he didn't want to do a copy for BB where he just met Rocks sometime & was influenced by him like Shanks for Luffy
The dominating theory was "fan of Xebec"
^
I don't follow Red
on x
But ig its just too much in hypothetical so like not really much of a point to discuss at this point ig
Im trying not to reference any individual other series but I think you've read enough japanese media to know the most common ending that japanese written fantasy stories fall into
It’s funny how the ship name has still never been mentioned in the manga itself once yet
I’m sure the very next scene of bb will name it 
!chop
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I think in broad strokes, its gonna be that but OP has kinda set it to be core theme from early on I think
fate is a central theme since the start
"destiny or dream" is established in the start
It's not like other series where it comes into play in like last 10%
I think if the story doesnt give an overarching influence to a time period where the fruits/gods existed as indivuals, it wont fall into that cliche ending
unless I am still misunderstanding what you are telling
Idk. Oda hasn't really disappointed me in any big threads so I am positive for whatever he does
I dont think Id dislike what hed do even if its cliche
just want to have faith he'd create something more unique
in the end
Chapter day 
Wrong its 2 days later
go finish LAoK ibstrsf nerd
It's been 5 months
You should know I finished it already
It's not 
Well w/e go read Isako then
and tell me if I should read it
be my taste tester
why read OP 2 days earlier
Perhaps 
Are these letters correct
You can finish a 400-500 page book in 2 days
and then discuss OP with me when I read it
yes
Not if your concentration is damaged from social media
Azua ain't chuds like yall
he's my bro
Azua and me go way back
He and me go back even further
Go do it
Son
It's an author whose 2 books I dropped previously who now wrote in my fav genre
First Law?
so I need to sacrifice someone else's Time
yea
Archer go read Last Contract of Isako. By Green Bone Saga author
Good trilogy. I like it a lot but some people don’t lol
And tell me if its good or bad
Not familiar
Fonda lee?
Anyway its a cyberpunk samurai espionage story. I need someone to taste test it for me
I’ll look into it
I am reading Mars Trilogy rn and my SO wants to read the Sparrow together
samurai espionage... so ninja?
Feb? Don’t think so. It’s been in my radar but I got held up
I am almost through Red Mars now
nice
oh yeah read Way Station if you are still in that era of scifi
It won a hugo
I’ll look into it 👌
I need more people on it. Only found like 4-5 people who read it
Very interested in The Culture series
Ian banks?
Yep
It's a classic but never really interested me much
I usually prefer short books in those era of scifi books
sub 400 pages
Preferably standalone
more imaginative. Less series baggage
Goro turning everywhere he goes into #western-series
Makes sense
Not my fault
West? I thought you said weast
I too try to stop people from reading Thriller Bark
Luci would be sad at you
Stop! Leave that man alone!
Epic owe Oda royalties for coming up with Fortnite in Thriller Bark
its his awakening
???
I helped your cause
Turning people to official
lmao hey I didnt say it was a bad thing smh
It’s exactly my 4th year when I started one piece
young 'en
Me in my 12th year
14 years this year reading OP ongoing
been reading weekly since Dressrosa
idr exactly but thats what like 13 years?
watched for years before that though
Wish I had the time to read that much in 2 days 
Young azua could do it
Do it
!chop
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Is it just me or embeds gone for everyone?
It's gone till Sunday
so people won't mention spoiler images
I see, is this going to be a regular thing now every week?
yeah blame ArsalUnwise bro
From last chapter
@ashen perch even in death, they're blaming you
the hero we needed, but don't deserve
yo glex
The silent guardian
a watchful protector
The Feet Knight 🔥
Hi
Hi
They give you a severance package too?
Hi
No I quit
I also quit lmao
Should have taken the package
Needed to touch some grass
Get my life together
Lost 15lbs tho
Got rid of the discord staff fat
6.7+0.1 kgs sheesh
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I’ve gained about 40 pounds since becoming mod 🥰
Here’s to 30 more 🤞
Pretend I insert cat tummy poke gif
haha
Oh yeah no embeds huh
Do you think they will ever show what happened at egghead in full detail?
Like the time skip
nope
Oh my god?
Grrrr
If you got embeds you smelll shiiiiittttttt🤣
Hope this helps one of you today
Well
So I can’t be an ally
Not infinite chances
You would have to live an infinite amount of time
To have infinite chances
But you might have a lot of chances regardless
No you can't
Wtf??
Correct
It's like a wealth gap but for embeds
^^^
Rok the larper
It’s called solidarity
Solarpdarity
👨🦼➡️
It’s like Malcolm said
In the middle??
son
classic rokaya
I love Hal and Dewey and Francis and the mom
and the mom
I just hated that show, so I never really watched it properly
Yeah she’s funny
I’ve only seen clips on YouTube shorts
so a bit like how you read one piece
Basically
it is the only way to consume media after all
It’s the superior way
Larp larp sahur
!larpreader
This might be the most dead the servers ever been
sports channel at least kinda stays alive
also tbh the amount of channels makes ''dead'' feel worse
like back in the day, before #also-manga was a thing, it'd still feel alive even if there were only like 5 people in #manga
We need all 400k people to chat here
True he should have said unlimited rather than infinite
Oda’s so washed man
oda is a hack
Idk this is like the third or fourth day where it’s like this
We gotta kill him
Like manga is the only active channel
All the regulars died
💔
😿
tbf its a chapter week so they are all holed up in da channels
!Settoslowmode #also-manga 6h
🆗 , channel slowmode was updated, it is now set to 6 hours
yo release the chap mods
🆗 , channel slowmode was updated, it is now set to 6 hours
I swear bro it’s gonna get long bro
sunday mate!!
He’d be fine lol
Desperate times call for desperate measures
I just don’t think he gives a shit about one piece anymore
yeah the problem is that he's just not caught up
ive been sayinggg
I feel like he'd like it if he was smh
Its been kinda good!!
Kinda 😭
yeah idk about that but hed have a lot to talk about
I understand why he was hating in Wano because ts kinda sucked I am ngl to you
Bro doesn’t even believe what he’s saying
Idk if he’d like some of the haki/demon WG stuff but he’d probably like the general narrative
Holy L
OMG I actually hate you you’re so fake
I thought you defended Wano with me
hed have liked it and then disliked it again
But you’re just another one of them
I do defend Wano but I also understand why he was losing his mind tbh
cause I mean who wasnt
Arsal switched up when he saw Wano starting to get praise
Well yeah there’s a lot of bullshit
theres a LOT
But even more epicness and swag
I thought you were different Arsal I thought you werent like all the other boys
I try to look past the bullshit and say things like ''well he got the big stuff right'' but it can be kinda hard
Wano was awesome:
Rooftop was epic
Lore drop
Kid 3b bounty
Yamato not joining
What’s there NOT to love
I love Elbaf though genuinely frfr, I think its the type of arc that would bring back a fan tbh
Post ts rankings so far (not including Elbaf)
WCI > Wano > Dressrosa > Zou > Egghead > FMI > PH
Except for nika zoan
Elbaf will probably end up between Wano and Dressrosa for me
Nika's one of the peaks actually
Nika lore is fine
Nika zoan however
Ehhh egghead still probably better than Zou. But I think it’s super overrated
also sick
People talk about egghead like it saved one piece
😭
From the evils of Wano
Pissed me off lowkey
Egghead sucked
hey guys, did you know that egghead saved one piece?
its WCI>Dressrosa>FMI>Wano>Egghead>Zou>Punk Hazard tbh
I agree but its hard to explain that to people so I gave up and gaslit myself to like it
choc is still here?
He’s contained to games
I dont even really hate Punk Hazard but it really is THE choice for the worst post ts arc
Ofc
he's @ reformed user or something like that
my friend agrees with this
am I not your friend
I'm not really that high on dressrosa
PH is a fine arc but to me it’s the epitome of mid as far as one piece arcs go
where would you put elbaph
Put WCI above Dressrosa
It has to land the ending. But my guess is it’ll be my 3rd favorite after Wano
It edges against Wano for me
Stand strong soldier
Elbaf could pretty easily be #3 after WCI and Dressrosa but its too early to tell
You don’t mog
we're only halfway through the arc!
Boi 😂🫱
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Egghead > WCI > Wano > Zou > Dressrosa > PH
is probably how I would rank it
What’s better about Dressrosa than Wano is my question? I feel like the complaints for both of them are similar in nature but the peaks of Wano are just soooo much better than the peaks of Dressrosa to me
Better villain, better backstories?
Dressrosa is a miracle in how smoothly Oda manages to juggle a billion characters and their storylines at once
Wano Oda could never
🥶
oh
Backstories sure but I think the villains in Wano serve what they’re supposed to. It felt like such a huge event like holy fuck, we’re taking on the strongest pirates in the world in an all out war
Doffy still the goat tho yea
dressrosa is one of the most interesting arcs in one piece
Maybe not better in terms of scale but just someone who is villainous and auraful
we got plenty of characters and lore
I also think people hate waaaaay too much on the Wano side cast. It’s one of the strongest in the series for me
and yeah there's a lot to love, Doffy's still the best villain in the series, Law's flashback is incredible, the Doflamingo fight is incredible and hass one of the most satisfying conclusions to an arc in the series
too bad the anime butchered it
mine is Wano > Dressrosa > WCI > Egghead > Zou > FMI > Punk Hazard
Doffy was a sick twisted manipulative FREAK
i think it suffers from having so many characters people have less to focus on
I actually like doffy more before dressrosa
Idk why I never put this together but is your name inspired by Doffy at all @trim lily
partially
Dressrosa also has so many characters and Oda actually has the ability to handle them properly there
just a skill issue from Wano Oda...
Nah I think that’s valid my thing is more that doesn’t Dressrosa basically have the same issue? I thought the side cast in Dressrosa was so fucking cluttered and uninteresting for the most part
it does WHAT against wano
Wano Oda gave you your first proper Robin fight you ungrateful insect
well dressrosa had its own fair share of forgettable characters but a little less than wano
Hard disagree lol
act 1 and act 2 were fine
but act 3 is when oda felt like just skipping to luffy vs kaido
yeah it does
staff embed classism got you acting like a celestial dragon already
because that's where the narrative in onigashima was at its strongest
hey I mean its not all bad, like I said, he did get the big stuff pretty right
like the Robin fight is actually perfect
Discrimination against robin fans is moral
its like Oda knew he couldnt mess that up
Wano side cast hard mogs the Dressrosa one I’m sorry 
TRUE
Easy
Actually could not care less about half the mfs in Dressrosa
Easy on cavendish
you'll be the elder that replaces peter when he traitors in no time
unfortunately dressrosa has orlumbus so it clears
Chill on cavendish
dressrosa characters are silly but they literally contributed more to liberating a country than the characters in wano did
I do love the Wano sidecast but unfortunately Oda doesnt
Bruh
I've been hating on the side cast of wano a lot, but you are actually right about this
Bartolomeo don’t know if I really care bout the fella
All the Akazaya on the other hand
but it also has blue gilly so thats a pretty big mark agaainst it
Barto and cavendish are the only grand fleet members that matter anyways
Chill on cavendish and barto
Brother no one cares about kawamatsu
And haj
I’m right here bro
the scabbards thrive because of rule of cool
Chill
nice
haj doesnt matter sadly
I feel like Dressrosa would be one of my favorite arcs if I actually gave a fuck about most of the characters more
Chill on Kawamatsu
Booooo
I care about orlombus tho. he's a fun guy
Bro said hajrudin matters 🤣🤣🤣
Chill
kawamatsu was sidelined so hard lmao
Chill on Hajrudin
Chill on every character bro

Chill on Maz
like oda just felt like stopping devloping him past his backstory
Chill on YC
Like the coliseum characters are so snoozer
chill on the big Haj
Chill
chill on jean ango
Chill on the coliseum characters
Kawamatsu brings the scabbards down so hard it’s not even funny
I mean most of them are barely more than background characters
Chill on them
Imagine One Piece finally having a tournament and then its so ASS
saying this when denjiro exists
But I liked it....
I'm so glad fellow Denjiro haters exist
Only Akazaya with Emission yes I only look at powerscaling traits yes he’s the best just cause he’s the kappa
i liked kinemon's development, he went from being a rogue samurai who refused any help from a pirate to a humbled defeated warrior begging luffy to save wano
The characters in Dressrosa are great though, the Grand Fleet are all fun and cool, Law, Kyros and Fujitora are like the best side characters in the series, Sabo, Koala and Hack were also great in the arc, I liked Rebecca and Riku too personally and Gyattz was da goat. The villains are all super fun too aside from Machvise. I dunno, lots to love
Legit first time ive ever heard this take
What are you talking about
I love the scabbards and I'd never stop loving them but Oda did them really dirty
the kawamatsu haters lurk in the shadows
Well they fill out the cast of that arc. Half the Doffy pirates are lame, most the grand fleet characters are pretty forgettable. Obviously Dressrosa has some absolute goats like Kyros and Cora but man. I was invested like 10x more in the scabbards, the Kozukis, Yasuie etc..
Dressrosa Oda wouldnt have fumbled
Mainly anime watchers who don’t give a shit about Rebecca probably
Keep them there 😭 🙏🏻 too late tho Oda is one of them
Denjiro is the goat bruh he killed orochi
Ask what they think of Rebecca in 2 chats you’d get different answers
The scabbards just shouldn't have gotten up after kaido beat them
i often forget the flag fruit guy exists
Kawamatsu is super fun and cool and then Oda's like ''what if I had him do nothing''
That's part of why he sucks Rokaya
What good came out of it
Orochi should have just burned to death
Barto is better than every single member of the akazaya nine
It would have been way better
that's like most characters in onigashima
I like Barto and Cavendish but I couldn’t tell you bout the rest of the fleet
I dont have any issue with them getting up but Oda handles them really poorly in the arc
Nahhh denjiro deserved to get a hit on him
i'm surprised oda even killed off izo and ashura doji
Chill on Hajrudin
He did before
They all cut him
Wano also has momo the goat
He already cut a head
No that’s not the same
Then Denjiro ran in a circle to cut him again
And then when he appears he does the same thing again
Can you imagine the pain and suffering of working for the guy for like two decades
After disappearing for longer than a full irl year
Im shocked oda killed off izo but just because his death came out of nowhere
Denjiro was really the best option after Oda FAILED at making Hiyori a swordsman like I wanted him to
Literally all the tobi roppo, Queen, King and even BM go down while this fucking guy was running around
So when sanji or Robin disappear for a million chapters to come back and do something grand in the nick of time no one has a problem
robin is kinda like denjiro true
People like when robin or sanji leave for millions of chapters because no one likes them
And they ruin every chapter theyre in
Roflllll
there shouldnt have been 9 akazaya too begin with, Oda shoot himself on the leg with that one
I think someone pointed out that Denjiro actually did just run in a circle if you look at where Hiyori was and where he left from
but I'd need to reread the arc for that
doing laps
Yeah cut theyre in more arcs
I disagree personally
I dont think that was the issue at all
He's such a poorly handled character it's actually insane
if i was writing id have 18 akazaya and theyd all be great
well 9 is fine but yes
I mean
he wouldnt had an issue if it was just like 4 or 5
yes he would??????
There should have been 1
And let that be Kawamatsu
A guy as tall and large as 9 guys
Kawamazu
Kanjuro, kin, and raizo were the best
only 4 or 5 of them actually did things after losing to Kaido and each thing sucked ass more than the other
And when kaido hits them he turns into 9 smaller guys
Raizo excluded
not at all
I like the scabbards
still better than having 9 of them
no??
I like all the scabbards
and hey, I like the scabbards I'm just saying maybe things would've been different if they were like 4 or 5
My favourite scabbard is kiku
Neko and Inuarashi have the bottom 2 worst fights of all time in the series, trust me that really isnt the issue
:)
Some are obviously way better than the others, but I wouldn't remove any of them
I really like Kin but I’d rather swap Izo’s death for his
For the significance of Momo
I'd be sad in a one piece world without Kiku
Miku
but I'm glad Oda did Wano before Final War
Oh brother
Senile bums
imagine if Oda messed Final War up, I would go crazy
Dressrosa Oda would have handled every scabbard right
but they got aura tho
Which ones would you actually cut tho
It ain’t even a hot take brah
I don't know
i hope when blackbeard invades he attacks garfield and odie first
I dint know if he would have
Oda was tired
no trust me I know
no idea
No I think I know
I know better sorry
Oda is my dad btw
and I am his dad now what
It’s a shit take
And I asked him just now and he said he would have fumbled either way
do you guys think Final War will be a mess?
mayb
hopefully not!
No because we will have oda in the machine by that point
120 chapters of luffy fighting people
No more human limitations
Ideally Oda would have every single thing mapped out about it after taking a 3 months break to specifically plan out the final war
ideally
Map it out all he wants its not changing the root of the issue

I'm ngl I did not care about a lot of the side characters in Dressrosa, like some of them were cool but a lot of the colosseum fighters and a few of the doffy pirates were just like nothingburgers
3 month break? oh hell nah
and people making "gear 5 minutes jokes" every second
not mapping out is the core issue
what's the root of the issue?
He old and trying to get one piece finished sooner rather than later
which cast do you like more, Wano's or Dressrosa's?
hes already almost to retirement age
ah
we might be cooked
The machine is the only way
he can take 6 if he needs it, he just needs to
Once we put his brain in there
Delete before he sees this
1000%
we should have a one year break
Wano's I think, of course Whole Cake Island mogs both but I like the scabbards more than like 90% of side characters in Dressrosa
people said they wanted a timeskip didnt they
L
He hadn’t written a mess yet
One year break this server would start formulating new bullshit we haven’t seen before
Wano and dressrosa are better
yes it will be, but it can be a well written mess or a badly written mess
We just let oda live the retirement life for like 5 years, then he comes back and spends his actual retirement age writing one piece for another 20 years
I disagree
Well stop
I agree with Avery
oda been teasing the final war since pre ts so i think he knows what he's doing
I disagree with Rokaya
I'd be okay with this
everything he's doing rn he's making sure he's properly setting everything up
Koya rokaya is wrong
🖕
Are you trying to police my thoughts? Literally 1984 in here smh
since East Blue actually
while oda has been fumbling many things lately, i do think he has spent more time cooking up final war arc than egghead or elbaf or maybe even wano (im so high on cope)
Koya rokaya is wrong
🖕
Wow
fair enough
What if he comes back more washed than ever
Nerd
WCI's side cast isnt good just because Carrot exists

youre just jealous you wont get to see yamato fighting blackbeard
That good oda usually never washes so this would be an improvement smell wise
oda could never
wouldnt you call Wano messy? even though its peak
exactly
this is the correct answer
hopefully
Carrot isnt the worst thing on earth, I'd say the least satisfactory parts of her character are in Wano anyways tbh
What if BB wants Pluton
you dont like Wano, Egghead and Elbaph?
yamato will already be sailing to elbaf by then
Carrot is excellent in WCI
wano and egghead were so crammed
it should have just been saturn
Carrot IS the worst thing on earth
Its Wano Oda who once again is to blame for Carrot's downfall
bringing in all the gorosei felt like it was just done for the sake of aura
Aura
every evil, since the dawn of time, can be attributed to Wano Oda and partially to Egghead Oda
Some Carrot hate might just be mink racism tbh #WeNeedToStartAConversation
both are peak ngl
Some carrot love might just be furry lovers tbh #WeNeedToStartAConversation
just did a Socrates
both arcs are peak

I really dont mind how messy wano is or how Egghead is super fast paced
both arcs are still PEAK
Me neither
he actually turned good this arc, evil Oda is gone thankfully
This is true...
It’s dense with information but I don’t think that makes it necessarily messy that its abrupt, same with Egghead, the general introduction with the Elders and their abilities and Bonney and Kuma backstory was only right to be enjoyable
Best arcs in the game (let WCI slip in tho)
He’s going 3 for 3 with Elbaf now
so true
all is true
I really dont mind all the gorosei going to egghead, giving us a showcase of their powers before final war was a good idea
just like bringing Imu to Elbaph
Egghead good wano mid
Guys
I still think egghead isnt tbat good
I kinda think its tbe 2nd worst post time skio arc
I can kinda agree, but it does have a really good flashback
They're calling it the 3rd best post time skip flashback
there are like 5 post ts arcs
It's personally my favorite but I can see why some would like say the Oden flashback or Law's flashback more
Oden flashbaxk was NOT one of the two i put above it
Chinjao flashback #1 forsure forsure
(It's law and fmi)
No because Rocks is there
Erm cancels out with harald being there
Which makes it an okay flashback
Kinda insane how no one has ever said or thought this
Nah
The best flashback in One Piece is
Nice gif
It’s Chooper
Loser
Thanks
Ky s
Kiss yourself
Mods
😚
Ban this dude
Mwah mwah
Anyway yeah chopper is my favourite flashback as well ;)
That wasnt supposed to be a wink
I wasnt being mischievous in any way there

I dont want you


AWESOME

i absolutely do love them, but you know there are several things he mishandled in those arcs
Yes...but not to where its a bad arc
Overall Oda is making W's MASSIVELY more than L's
Wano is not perfect but I feel it’s the arc that Oda put the most of his energy into drawing if that makes sense
You can feel how much he caresses about that arc
yeah that's fair
I agree
idk I think Wano is one of those arcs you can safely skip
it's not that good so it's worth going into egghead which is better
skipping Wano? you're absolutely trippin
ragebait
you could probably skip the kin'emon and kiku stuff in the raid and not lose anything of value though 🤭
Wano has more Zoro and Law action so its better
Son
Why are none of the foxes silver
The Stelly shrine was probably the most unique bunch of them all I’ve seen
dangit no embeds
Bait or low iq, call it
does anything really happen in wano
True
caresses
They treat us like animals!
Look at them in their ivory embeds
They hate you brother
i dont think its workign
Needing lvl 10 to send pictures and gifs are so stupid
Maybe one more time
Nah people will brigade the chat otherwise
idk why severs do that
ODA'S BACK
Embeds are not allowed anyway
mfers weren't around when g5 was first revealed
you wouldn't be asking why embeds are turned off
those wb gifs remind me that bb has another form of fast travel in generatnig seaquakes
When is the new chapter dropping
sunday
tcb is out already, but you can only talk about it in the spoiler channels
Fr?
yes
np
WHAT
I was just... helping
I'm a helper

-100 moderator points. Talking back to a superior officer
This is cute
the server is kinda dead
YOU'RE KINDA DEAD
yohohoho
Smh... you might be a helper, but you dont help the users
I do!
tell them guys
im sayin bro
wait lemme check my rank
Luta
Can Sunday evening just arrive already
dude its friday dont wish the weekend away
Some of us are unemployed, enjoy suffering
does trnaslation work for you it says unable to fetch for me
i guess i can copypaste and tanslate elsewhere
Might need to use the app
ah so the anime getting there huh thatll be cool
im so behind on anime i was waiting for egghead to finish
this is going to kill some anime onlies
japan doesn't care about anime only
you misunderstood
i'm saying it's killing anime onlines when the episode drops for the west watchers
from the contests of said episode
great day to watch people cry i think
yokoso watashi larp society-wa
huge day for react tubers
they’re gonna farm so many crying thumbnails
a naruto fan reacts to one piece AURA moments
If only I could send that one thumbnail of the guy who was crying to kumas backstory
Do y'all remember that
i was thinking the same thumbnail
crying with snot everywhere etc right
the only kuma related video i know of is kuma happy moments
Michael angelo
Two seconds long
yee
LMAOO
you know your pfp is not even looking like kizaru but kuma's father before death
i'm honestly considereing applying for real so i can send images when we are on lock mode
imagine the gif of klapp getting shot but in reverse here
real helpers abuse their authority
Tbh this can’t be forever
i feel like its rude to send images when others cant
Half the week I can’t send images or gifs?
hopefully we only gotta do like one or two more cycles of this . it is intended to be temporary
surely people wont abuse it
I want to share Dressrosa pages damn it
tell it to thigh and room they spam it 😭
and pineapple unc
Can’t say shit. I don’t care about everyone else lol
hey i can only speak for me. but hoping we only do this one or two more times
But when I said this earlier @tranquil blade and @grand flower got on my ass about it smh
discrimination against kid fans probably
i support the discrimination

what has the world come to
i forgot i can’t send images