also-manga

[prisma idol]

Its actually really funny

[ashen perch]

Archer has hated One Piece for decades, this isn't surprising

[leaden rivet]

He gets people riled up, which is the best part about spoiler week

[hasty sable]

I think I hate Oda and it’s out of rebellion for him spending thousands of dollars to hide the ending in a submarine

[hot cairn]

Rokaya should be punished for this

[prisma idol]

That was pulled out of the water btw

[scenic dirge]

Mr Beast will find it

[hasty sable]

I think someone should kill him

[hot cairn]

did you hate OP during Wano too? @hasty sable

[hasty sable]

Yeah

[scenic dirge]

Wait really?

[ashen perch]

This was almost certainly faked

[hasty sable]

I’ve never liked it tbh

[prisma idol]

Yep

[opal gull]

Wano or OP?

[hasty sable]

Yeah

[opal gull]

lol

[hot cairn]

you’ve never liked OP? Why are you here then

[scenic dirge]

Yeah GET OUT OF HERE

we don’t welcome your kind

[hot cairn]

true

[leaden rivet]

There’s a WEBTOON I’ve hated for 7 years in which I still read weekly

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

[leaden rivet]

Sometimes you have tethers to things

[hot cairn]

ridiculous

[scenic dirge]

Like my wife

[ashen perch]

Wait why did Shuron ask me that, I didn't even question it

[hot cairn]

if you hate something, drop it

[pulsar timber]

You want to be me so bad

[leaden rivet]

Life isn’t so simple

[thick mango]

I don't got enough time to be consuming things i hate

[hasty sable]

My SO still likes OP but we make it work. Be like her.

[scenic dirge]

You hate your wife?

[pulsar timber]

Yes

[leaden rivet]

Sometimes consuming things you hate can be of greater enjoyment than things you like

[hot cairn]

that makes absolutely no sense

[hot cairn]

fr

[scenic dirge]

This gives me hope for my future tbh. If a one piece hater and one piece enjoyer can still find love then maybe there’s hope for us all

[leaden rivet]

It does, you can hate something despite finding it mildly entertaining

[opal gull]

I guess you enjoy it getting worse and have fun when people who love it feel sad that its getting worse

[hasty sable]

Do you think that love can bloom even on a battlefield?

[leaden rivet]

You can love to hate on it

[thick mango]

I believe that you have no reason to lie that's your experience but I don't understand it at all

[pulsar timber]

I don’t think I’ll ever understand that perspective

[hot cairn]

these one piece haters smh

[pulsar timber]

But to each their own

[hot cairn]

who gets them

[hot cairn]

me neither

[pulsar timber]

I drop things as soon as I start hating it

[hot cairn]

it’s kinda stupid

[leaden rivet]

Stop thinking so simply and binary of things

[dense haven]

I'm assuming it also comes with the role of shitting on that thing online

[hasty sable]

I think everything about Imu and the God Knights is dumb can I say that

[opal gull]

I mean not liking it and being neutral is fine but hating it? like wtf

[scenic dirge]

I think it’s a very common thing lol. Do you know how many people Stockholm syndrome themselves into playing games that make them nothing but angry?

[opal gull]

yeah same

[dense haven]

the better you know somehting the better you can bait people

[opal gull]

Who is Mike Brown?

[leaden rivet]

Hatin something doesn’t mean you don’t enjoy it

[hasty sable]

One Piece live action is peak

[dense haven]

brother of mike hawk

[scenic dirge]

No one actually enjoys overwatch. They play that shit because they’re too far gone

[thick mango]

I guess but I'm rapidly running out of time there's so much stuff I might like and I get more enjoyment out of glazing things I like than shitting on things I hate

[pulsar timber]

Basketball terrorist

[leaden rivet]

You can hate irs writing, hate why it represents, things of that nature

[opal gull]

you are also one of them it feels like sometime

[clever quail]

Folks be masochistic and sunk cost fallacy is real

[pulsar timber]

Yeah it’s one of many things that make humans stupid

[leaden rivet]

My hometown football team I hate them a lot, they make me upset, yet I still enjoy watching them

[opal gull]

eh dont know much about basketball

do you watch football?

[hasty sable]

I can’t hate OP tbh

It’s just boring rn

[pulsar timber]

I watch the good kind of football. American football

[opal gull]

lmao

[scenic dirge]

I can never hate anything more than I hate myself

[pulsar timber]

I don’t hate you Evan

[opal gull]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-wolf-sigma-male-gif-26562640

[hasty sable]

Antidepressants and exercise

[scenic dirge]

Actually yes I can

I definitely hate Arsal more

Like way more

[clever quail]

In June you can learn what the world thinks of American football vs real football

[hasty sable]

I like Arsal but he hates me

[pulsar timber]

American football clears

[scenic dirge]

You shouldn’t like Arsal

[hasty sable]

Got a regular hate triangle going on here

[opal gull]

its egghand

[brittle basin]

CTE Ball>Euroball

[scenic dirge]

Wait that means you’d have to hate me?

[formal wagon]

TRUTH

[opal gull]

but does Arsal also hate you?

[pulsar timber]

Superior to soccer

[scenic dirge]

!evan2

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164970986284777473/763204369813340190/Screenshot_2020-09-29-23-54-572.png

[opal gull]

no

[pulsar timber]

Yes

[scenic dirge]

Adds up

[hasty sable]

No it’s like when Archie loves Veronica but Betty loves Archie. Nobody hates Archie.

[scenic dirge]

Damn ur old 😭

[opal gull]

so like Rock paper scissor

[pulsar timber]

The small European mind can’t comprehend this https://youtu.be/v-1MQ0Cnbhs?si=bHCpmZMNkSVSaBim

[brittle basin]

Mexican soccer announcers have to exaggerate everything 'cause they know the sport is inferior

[opal gull]

you lot are just haters

[pulsar timber]

Level up and you’ll get to watch

[hasty sable]

I love One Piece Live action

Six seasons and a movie please

[opal gull]

dont wanna watch mid

[pulsar timber]

One piece live action is genuinely unwatchable

[brittle basin]

We split from Europe and made a better sport. ez. gg. the rest of the world was just too pussy to put on a helmet and get their asses tackled into the dirt.

[hasty sable]

Fugg off

[pulsar timber]

I didn’t think I’d dislike it as much as I did

[hasty sable]

It’s peak

[pulsar timber]

Scottish evil garp is the best part

He really hates his grandson

[opal gull]

I guess if we had never seen OP anime or manga, we might have liked it

But I just watch live action for the comedy

[hot cairn]

that’s silly

[opal gull]

and just to hate on it

[brittle basin]

Also LA, especially season 2, is great. Go to jail right now Muk.

[pulsar timber]

I can’t even watch the live action for comedy

[brittle basin]

we'll fix you

[hasty sable]

Garp is already evil in canon he’s just not Irish so fair

[pulsar timber]

I couldn’t make it past episode 1 of season 2

[opal gull]

[brittle basin]

disgusting

I've watched season 2 three times now

Goda

[hot cairn]

[pulsar timber]

Only episode I’ll watch is the vivi introduction probably

[urban lodge]

Live action is the definitive canon

[brittle basin]

LA has the balls to kill people more often

[hasty sable]

True and based

[thick mango]

I can't wait for la to kill Pell

[opal gull]

it is for some friends of mine

One of my friends when I told him to watch the anime was like

bro I watch the real shit not the cartoon stuff

[dense haven]

death to pell

[brittle basin]

LA Mihawk solos btw

[hot cairn]

📸

[hasty sable]

Can’t wait for Jason Mamoa as Kaido (confirmed btw)

[brittle basin]

gaslight him

[hot cairn]

true

[opal gull]

its hopeless

[dense haven]

cartoon is for babies

[brittle basin]

anime is for babies is the funniest shit i've ever heard. show him Ninja Scroll

[hot cairn]

okay Caleb chill out

[pulsar timber]

I’m being honest

The dialogue is really bad to me and I hate the amount of close ups we get

[brittle basin]

Muk's hatred is actually fake and he secretly watches LA

LA Wusopp and Wanji

[formal wagon]

someone pin this

[hazy turret]

He’s right

[leaden rivet]

You can hate something for different reasons other than enjoyment

[brittle basin]

SHUT UP

[opal gull]

you dont even read OP lol

[brittle basin]

Dorry and Brogy LA, my beloved

[hazy turret]

Ad hominem

[leaden rivet]

Inaki is just a bad actor

[opal gull]

no no no

[thick mango]

I get a dog to read the chapter to me since I can't read

[leaden rivet]

And lowkey all the actors look at each other like they want to kiss

[brittle basin]

Inaki has better acting when he doesn't have to exaggerate, but he's still the weakest actor in the crew. but i think it has more to do with being luffy than anything else. how do you act luffy

[hasty sable]

Sopranos Pirates

Captain - Tony Soprano

Vice Captain - Silvio Dante

Sniper - Christopher Moltisante

Cook - Paulie Walnuts

Navigator - Salvatore “Big Pussy” Bonpensiero

Shipwright - Bobby Bacalieri

[opal gull]

they should tbh

[urban lodge]

I haven't seen season 2 yet but I think Iñaki is good at portraying how cringe Luffy would actually be in real life

[brittle basin]

he is in that regards.

also watch season 2

[hasty sable]

@scenic dirge what do you think

[opal gull]

instead of copying OP

The LA should take its own path and that can have romance within crew

[hazy turret]

Acting isn’t very good but also the writing isn’t much better either. But hey, I’ve only seen the first ep and some clips

[brittle basin]

i am the Jehovah's Witness of One Piece LA season 2

i will gaslight you all

[grand flower]

Ayo

[leaden rivet]

You didn’t like garp sending a yonko tier fighter to assassinate his grandson?

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/lab-labe-zolu-zoroxluffy-one-piece-gif-18008154

[hot cairn]

it’s enjoyable

[queen crescent]

people who dont watch anime and watches only LA, just dont understand that a story's emotions, actions, and feelings, are portrayed perfectly when drawn, instead when acted by a human which cant be much accurate.

[scenic dirge]

[opal gull]

Atleast it will make it worth watching

[scenic dirge]

Now that's a real crew

[hot cairn]

what do you hate about OP?

[grand flower]

I trusted you

[opal gull]

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-tony-soprano-nothing-chin-flick-gif-22794125

[leaden rivet]

What’re you even talking about

When did I say I hate OP

[brittle basin]

LA season 2 is worth watching in and of itself. your boos mean nothing, i've seen what makes you people cheer

[opal gull]

you dont have to say it

[hot cairn]

you said it to me in a dream

[opal gull]

we know

[hot cairn]

true

[opal gull]

true

[leaden rivet]

…

[opal gull]

BOOM

BAM

[hot cairn]

got em

[opal gull]

hahaha

[hot cairn]

nah I’m kidding @leaden rivet ik you don’t hate OP

[queen crescent]

how do i get image perms, bc i want to post a theory in #manga-theories but i need to attach sources from the manga to make it better.

[hazy turret]

I’m sensing some tension among the crew rn

[brittle basin]

that was a bad line to be fair

[hot cairn]

who’s the crew?

[opal gull]

yo

[hazy turret]

We are

[opal gull]

did Nelson find you?

nakama

[hazy turret]

Who’s Nelson

[opal gull]

Ah He didnt msg you

i TOLD HIM TO

[hazy turret]

Should I watch episode 2 of opla so I can keep hating on it

[opal gull]

[wraith mantle]

Watch something you actually like

[pulsar timber]

#notmyluffy

[brittle basin]

yes

[opal gull]

lets watch party

[hazy turret]

There are literally like 4 kid fan staff smh

[opal gull]

But I trusted he would find you

[hasty sable]

Watch Game of Thrones the ending is phenomenal

[opal gull]

the real Kid fan

[wraith mantle]

Watch OPLA we gooo

[opal gull]

stfu

bruh

[hazy turret]

Or should I skip to season 2

[opal gull]

no OPLA ever

[brittle basin]

don't do this to me

[hazy turret]

Since you say it’s much better

[ashen perch]

I'm genuinely confused but thanks ⁉️

[opal gull]

lets watch some real series

[brittle basin]

season 2 is a noticeable upgrade

[opal gull]

watch party it

[hazy turret]

You know what

[opal gull]

what

[brittle basin]

Read the books, ending is even better.

[hazy turret]

I’ll watch first ep of season 2

[leaden rivet]

Dragon looks dumb in the show

[opal gull]

[leaden rivet]

Cheap outfit and looks like a geek

[brittle basin]

episode 1 is OK, i find what comes after more enjoyable in season 2

[opal gull]

who is Dragon in the show?

[hazy turret]

Okay I’ll start with episode 2 then

[brittle basin]

no you watch it all like a good little fan

[leaden rivet]

Luffy’s father

[hazy turret]

I’m gonna vomit

[opal gull]

ha ha ha

[hazy turret]

Unless we can stream it here

If we all watch opla together then I’ll watch it all

[brittle basin]

Everything you hate? Oda greenlit it.

[opal gull]

yeah we should stream it so we can shit on it

thats fun

[hazy turret]

But I’m not sitting through 2 seasons alone

[leaden rivet]

Not like oda been making the best decisions either

[opal gull]

for example?

[brittle basin]

banned for having a dissenting opinion.

[hazy turret]

He knows how to make a manga, he doesn’t know how to make a live action show

[brittle basin]

banned for criticizing the server's god.

[opal gull]

BLASPHEMYYY

[hazy turret]

Oda would get banned in a week if he were in here

You call that a god?!

[brittle basin]

SI

[opal gull]

would he be a part of the #manga crowd or this channel?

[hazy turret]

Manga crowd

[opal gull]

[hazy turret]

Spoilers actually

[opal gull]

lmao

[brittle basin]

Oda would be in #manga powerscaling, but everyone would criticize it.

[opal gull]

he would be really good at "predicting" stuff

but seriously they should stream OPLA

[leaden rivet]

Yeah like when people were getting BANNED for posting a panel that Oda DREW

[opal gull]

The voice channels are empty anyways 99% of the time

[hazy turret]

[leaden rivet]

Oda’s never been great at powerscaling

[brittle basin]

true, oda just be writing shit

be making up all this

[hazy turret]

Im off to watch an episode of season 2

[thick mango]

Powerscaling Is a trap. Rule of cool is better

[opal gull]

do tell us how you find it

Arsal do you like OPLA?

[brittle basin]

real fans like LA

[urban lodge]

Oda would get banned for nsfw

[opal gull]

no that has nothing to do with it

[prisma idol]

Oda forgets characters are severely injured

[brittle basin]

banned for being a fake fan.

[prisma idol]

Loki should not be moving around like he is

[leaden rivet]

Oda had high levels of dementia during marineford

[opal gull]

liking OPLA does not decide a real or a fake fan

ok

[hazy turret]

Arsal can we stream opla in the server

[leaden rivet]

He must have a ghost artist

[brittle basin]

it does. all real fans raise your x-maked fists.

[ashen perch]

You guys are falling for what is just a marketing tactic that Oda's merely playing along with

[opal gull]

PLEASE

[ashen perch]

Sure

[brittle basin]

Goda strikes again

[hazy turret]

We won’t get in trouble for it??

[opal gull]

huh? your a mod bruh

[ashen perch]

Oh you meant it like that

[opal gull]

its not other series

[ashen perch]

Yeah we will

[prisma idol]

I do not, I know for certain oda wrote strong world and that LuNa is canon

[ashen perch]

Lmao

[hazy turret]

Oh

[opal gull]

what if we do it in the Captain VC???

[leaden rivet]

Same with Oda “approves” all the vivre card’s

[thick mango]

Restreaming Netflix is a really bad idea

[opal gull]

its kind of hidden

[hazy turret]

I meant discord hq won’t nuke us

[opal gull]

so then do it in the capt vc

[leaden rivet]

Are you a polar bear?

[hazy turret]

Seal

[leaden rivet]

I don’t think seals are white but ok

[prisma idol]

Artic seal

[hazy turret]

Pretty sure that’s racist

[leaden rivet]

Hmm well I guess polar bears are black

[final trench]

They’re like, grey

https://tenor.com/view/giggi-the-giggi-mina-mania-gif-4484770607757756595

[opal gull]

DAMN I just checked a server where I was watching football streams

its not there anymore

I visited it 2 days ago

[urban lodge]

Some baby seals are white for camouflage

[hazy turret]

Guess that means no opla stream for sure

[opal gull]

yeah

tho, how do we not get nuked for streaming anime?

just curious

[opal gull]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-white-seal-cute-adorable-seal-adorable-gif-17879744

[thick mango]

what preys on seals that they need camoflague? polar bears?

other seals?

[opal gull]

Yes and Orcas

i guess

[urban lodge]

Mostly polar bears

On land

[pulsar timber]

Nuke Rokaya for pushing the panda agenda

[brittle basin]

Fun Fact: Orcas are evil

[ashen perch]

The studio for One Piece is also the studio for Cowboy Bebop: Tomorrow Studios, partnered with same production partner Netflix.

They too credited Shinichiro Watanabe, original director, as consultant which he later revealed as being misleading. He was there in that position but they largely ignored his suggestions to the point that he dissociated with it and said that he might as well have had zero involvement. He said that maybe it turns out good before it came out, but you won't be seeing his vision.

[opal gull]

yeah and so are dolphins

[pulsar timber]

Me when I credit the og author but don’t listen to him

[ashen perch]

Basically, they lied.

[opal gull]

they beat people up

[brittle basin]

I was aware of Watanabe's comment but not that they lied about consulting with him. Well, if that's true about Oda, as well, we'll find out in time. Buuuuuuut I still love LA, they did great with or without Oda then.

[pulsar timber]

Oda is probably giving decisions

I don’t think he plays about his series like that

[brittle basin]

In the latest behind the scenes, they outright state he has noticeable veto power and reads every script and gives notes.

[ashen perch]

I think Oda cares a lot more about succeeding

[opal gull]

but in general

has the OPLA been a success?

[leaden rivet]

“Oda personally chose this actress” no he didn’t 🙏

[pulsar timber]

A very booming one

[hybrid hazel]

Which one

[thick mango]

it was so funny that oda gave the note to the zoro actor that he should have a thicker neck

[pulsar timber]

It’s one of Netflix’s flagship series now

It does stupid numbers

I’m glad it exists and did wel l it’s just not for me

[brittle basin]

They literally said Oda can say "find the budget" indicating he has an absurd amount of say-so. Unless, like Arsal said, they're just lying.

[opal gull]

well thats good

I think OP is now the most popular anime

along with DB Naruto and AOT

[ashen perch]

Its been his dream to be a successful creator on the global stage. He gets to do it now because the OPLA contributed to a worldwide One Piece boom. He's more than happy to go along with it

[hazy turret]

5 seconds into s2 ep1 and the female marine is being assisted by the male marine
Maybe Oda did green light this after all

[hybrid hazel]

Op is like almost dB level

[pulsar timber]

One piece is not close to db in popularity

[leaden rivet]

[brittle basin]

what is db

[pulsar timber]

In terms of how iconic they are

[thick mango]

dragon ball i would assume

[pulsar timber]

Nowadays though it’s probably pretty even

[prisma idol]

I do think they treat ida a little bit better

[pulsar timber]

Yeah Dragonball

[opal gull]

Doraemon Bozaimon

[leaden rivet]

People in the west barely care about one piece

[pulsar timber]

Well that’s not true anymore

[hybrid hazel]

Mb

[prisma idol]

Oda not ida

[brittle basin]

Oh yeah lol Dragon Ball is as recognizable as the cross is at this point.

[leaden rivet]

Meh

[ashen perch]

One Piece is the biggest ongoing animanga on the planet now, that's really really not true by any metric lol

[thick mango]

im sure theres some metric we could look up instead of speculating

[opal gull]

not true? what is not true?

that its the biggest?

[brittle basin]

I would bet money that the average grandmother in the world has heard the name "goku" before "luffy."

[ashen perch]

What Illya said is not true

Is what I meant

[opal gull]

I see

[hybrid hazel]

Yes everyone knows Goku but not luffy

[leaden rivet]

Barely is an exaggeration of course

[urban lodge]

I see people with one piece shirts evey other day

[brittle basin]

oda is a hack

[leaden rivet]

No need to fact change everything to a minute word

But it’s definitely much less popular compared to its peers

[brittle basin]

nowadays i see OP merch more often than before. but dbz probably has far more over time

[ashen perch]

Also probably true, but we shouldn't blindly believe the "Oh Oda's just looking at everything" statements, they're purely marketing slop.

[pulsar timber]

It’s probably more popular than bleach in the west at least

Naruto idk

[leaden rivet]

Definitely not Naruto

Not even close

[pulsar timber]

One piece probably has more non Japan sales than bleach has total sales

[brittle basin]

naruto is maybe still more popular than OP in the US?

[urban lodge]

I feel like Naruto isn't as popular as it used to be

[leaden rivet]

Maybe cause it ended

[urban lodge]

Well yeah lol

[pulsar timber]

Probably not

[opal gull]

Bleach is not really that popular

I had heard of Naruto as a kid and DB but never heard the name bleach

[hazy turret]

Robin vs marines

https://tenor.com/view/duke-dennis-feels-the-aura-aura-duke-aura-farm-gif-12250327613032664645

[leaden rivet]

Definitely is

[ashen perch]

It is more popular than anything outside of Pokemon and Dragon ball by any quantifiable metrics

[ashen perch]

I'm ngl

[hybrid hazel]

If they explored minato fugaku and other characters instead of starting boruto Naruto would prolly be way more relevant

[opal gull]

[leaden rivet]

What are those quantifiable metrics Arsal

[ashen perch]

I still haven't seen season 2

[brittle basin]

If so, maybe the LA contributed to it. But culturally, man, I always felt Naruto around me more than OP. Maybe times have changed though.

[ashen perch]

But I have seen that scene, its the only scene I have seen

[opal gull]

thats true

[hazy turret]

I don’t know how low your standards are

[urban lodge]

Oh yeah why are we talking about Dragon Ball when Pokemon is the real most popular one

By like magnitudes

[brittle basin]

It is your sworn duty as a mod to watch it and support Oda's yacht.

[ashen perch]

Sales.

[brittle basin]

Listen to Buffy, not Rokaya, when it comes to the LA.

[pulsar timber]

Boruto is hardly discussed anymore let alone Naruto. People still like Naruto but as of right now it’s not more popular than one piece. More iconic? Yeah, a lot of people including me grew up watching it

[ashen perch]

My standards are not low at all but I was genuinely really impressed by that scene

[hybrid hazel]

I lowkey forget abt Pokemon being an anime because of how big it is I usually think of the big 3 and DBZ

[brittle basin]

Boruto is a fucking meme though

[opal gull]

OP on toppp

[ashen perch]

It was great, but I'm not letting it fool me

[pulsar timber]

Yeah naruto is more iconic than onepieve is in the west

[opal gull]

surprising Naruto still pulls in this many views

dattebayooo

[urban lodge]

Me too, I separate it in my head for some reason but we shouldn't

[leaden rivet]

Oh well I mean if you compare an ongoing series to a finished one, that’s not quite what I was thinking. I meant when both were running.

[pulsar timber]

wtf

[brittle basin]

Shitpoopden

[hybrid hazel]

Yes

[ashen perch]

When Naruto was running is irrelevant lol

[pulsar timber]

Oh when they were both running yeah Naruto was far more popular in the west

[opal gull]

what happened Mike Brown

[ashen perch]

One Piece was damn near niche back then lol

[leaden rivet]

It doesn’t really feel like an anime

[leaden rivet]

It’s relevant to what I’m saying

[pulsar timber]

Didn’t know people were watching Naruto like that anymore

[ashen perch]

Naruto was a hundred times more popular than One Piece through its run, globally

It was not even close

[leaden rivet]

Of course

[hybrid hazel]

Og Naruto was way better than one piece at that time

[brittle basin]

And now One Piece, the objectively better series, is on top where it belongs.

[ashen perch]

It is irrelevant now Illya, because there's been a worldwide boom

[leaden rivet]

Saying a series that ended is less popular currently doesn’t mean anything

[urban lodge]

I feel like we don't even count it a lot of the time because most of us watched it before we even knew what anime is

[leaden rivet]

I thought it was just a regular cartoon most of the time I watched it

[ashen perch]

You know Kishimoto is still working on an ongoing Naruto series right? Its called Boruto

[distant vine]

https://fxtwitter.com/lawxpresso/status/2047517197782978592?s=20

Awaki ❦ Iudex of Law (@lawxpresso)

it's been officially three years since law lost everything again......

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[brittle basin]

Something continuining while another ended isn't necessarily an indicator of quality (think of reality tv shows).

[ashen perch]

It has not ended.

[hybrid hazel]

As it progressed oda kept getting better whereas kishimotos writing got worse

[leaden rivet]

Kishimoto doesn’t work on that

[opal gull]

a lot of new ones start with Naruto tbh, tho nowadays more people start with Demon Slayer and AOT and then start with Naruto in big 3 and then OP

some people I know have seen Naruto and Bleach but are afraid to start OP cause "its too long" and "still going" like wtf bruh, isnt that good that it is ongoing

[ashen perch]

He does

[leaden rivet]

No he doesn’t

[distant vine]

Not a coincidence everyone is so negative about OP now...

[ashen perch]

He's credited every single chapter

[leaden rivet]

He said recently it isn’t even his story anymore

[ashen perch]

I know it, cause I am caught up

[brittle basin]

does anyone here actually care about anything beyond the main series though?

[leaden rivet]

As we just discussed with the LA, being credited doesn’t mean you’re a part of it’s writing anymore lol

Boruto hasn’t been his story for a long time

[urban lodge]

I don't know why anyone would subject themselves to such misery

[ashen perch]

Boruto didn't used to be his series

[opal gull]

I only watched it till a certain ep where a certain fight takes place. I stopped afterwards tbh lol

[ashen perch]

It is now

[pulsar timber]

Let’s chill

[ashen perch]

He didn't used to get credited

[hybrid hazel]

No one cares about boruto I never drop animes but I dropped boruto because of how bad it was

[leaden rivet]

It’s not

[ashen perch]

He does now

[leaden rivet]

He said it’s not his story

[ashen perch]

That's an old statement

[leaden rivet]

Okay I’m not going to argue these tidbits because Boruto is not Naruto

[pulsar timber]

Naruto and bleach fans will say one piece is too long then sit through filler arcs

[distant vine]

There was a quote tweet glazing BB and I was about to bring the screenshot here to drag them but they only have 1 like, I need to be ethical

[ashen perch]

Also, not a thing in the manga industry

[leaden rivet]

And Naruto was more popular when both were ongoing that’s what I’m saying.

[opal gull]

[leaden rivet]

Not going to argue anymore past that

[ashen perch]

Nobody will disagree with that Illya

It's just irrelevant now

That was a decade ago

[pulsar timber]

ONE PIECE GOAT it has more sales than 2 and 3 combined

[leaden rivet]

Yes because Naruto has ended

[ashen perch]

It hasnt

[leaden rivet]

It has

It ended chapter 700

[opal gull]

well I guess OP hadnt reached its peak i guess?

but now with G5, i guess OP holds its own? im just guessing tbh

[leaden rivet]

Boruto isn’t Naruto

It’s a sequel

It’s like saying game of thrones is house of the dragon

[pulsar timber]

Is this allowed arsal

[ashen perch]

Okaaay hold on with the spoilers @hybrid hazel

Its fine yeah

[trim lily]

blue lock better than one piece

[hybrid hazel]

Mb

[brittle basin]

have any of you even seen this lol

Fist of the North Star, my beloved

[pulsar timber]

I haven’t

[dark nymph]

atatatatatata

[opal gull]

BLUE LOCK????

man that is such garbage yo, who even buying that stuff

[brittle basin]

children the lot of you

grow up with real man OVAs like me

[dark nymph]

ive only seen the memes

[opal gull]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lion-gif-9246479445115345145

[pulsar timber]

Kids nowadays don’t even experience filler arcs live

Generation is soft

[brittle basin]

https://tenor.com/view/howling-our-living-world-cry-shout-wolf-gif-2600452429554792787

[ashen perch]

Created and Supervised by the same man now, after his own attempt at another manga got axed

[opal gull]

ah how old are you Mike?

[leaden rivet]

Don’t care Arsal it’s a sequel

[hazy turret]

That’s muk bro

[pulsar timber]

Old beyond my years

[hybrid hazel]

HxH shouldve continued on to become as great as one piece but togashi got sick😢

[pulsar timber]

No I’m Mike

[opal gull]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-drinking-fall-scared-in-a-hurry-gif-12799806

[urban lodge]

It was a surreal experience to watch anime as a kid not knowing what filler was and being really confused as to why it suddenly got so bad

[leaden rivet]

You simply can’t pretend like a sequel and the original are the same thing

[ashen perch]

Its advertised as part of Naruto, that's part of its entire marketing that has failed miserably.

[pulsar timber]

I used to watch Naruto off YouTube. The good ole days

[ashen perch]

The point is, that motion it had before? It no longer exists

[dark nymph]

I remember watching op and reaching that arc with the little girl who could talk to animals, genuinely horrific

[leaden rivet]

Because it ended

[pseudo gulch]

Yo muk what do you think about CJ McCollum

[ashen perch]

One Piece is indeed on top, but I guess Dragon Ball will soon end that

[brittle basin]

You can watch Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust for free most days on YouTube. Highly recommend. One of my favorite OVA films.

[opal gull]

is it still ongoing bruh?

[leaden rivet]

Everything loses popularity when it ends that’s just how things work

[opal gull]

DB i mean

[ashen perch]

Yeah it never ended

Well, DBS never ended I mean

[opal gull]

lol

When the OP is found, it will break all records

[wet condor]

DBS is still technically ongoing but they've been held up on producing an anime adaptation for going on 10 years now lol

[pseudo gulch]

Series lose popularity even when they're still going

[ashen perch]

It wouldn't change a thing

[leaden rivet]

Yeah sometimes

[pulsar timber]

D you say?

[ashen perch]

But yea, the point was about Oda and the LA lol, I got sidetracked

[leaden rivet]

Okay whatever you say

[ashen perch]

Oda cares about the OP worldwide boom he's getting through this

[wet condor]

You in NBA discord Muk?

[brittle basin]

smh oda just wants money

NFL>NBA

[ashen perch]

Well, its not quite that simple

[trim lily]

he wants a third shark toilet

[brittle basin]

no but it's funnier that way

[pulsar timber]

No I can barely tolerate the nba fans I do see. I wouldn’t be able to handle discord ones without getting banned

[pseudo gulch]

You can never have enough of those

[ashen perch]

Its his dream, he said that Live Action was their last shot at making it big worlwide

[opal gull]

who is your fav?

Lebrons James or Jordan

[wet condor]

I'll watch either lol. I used to like basketball more

[ashen perch]

Which he really wanted

[pulsar timber]

Jordan easily

[ashen perch]

And he got it

[pulsar timber]

I don’t care for LeBron much

[opal gull]

nice

he is the GOAT

[trim lily]

[pulsar timber]

I’ve always been an nfl but I used to like the nba way more. Silver ruined the nba

[wet condor]

Yeah. Sports fans are basically what agenda piece fans are x100

[brittle basin]

The only NBA game I ever intentionally watched was when Jordan won his final championship live lol

[wet condor]

Oh that's p based

[pulsar timber]

They’re the progenitor of all this

[wet condor]

Yeah

[pseudo gulch]

Sports by far have the worst fanbase

But it's because they pull the most fans

[ashen perch]

It is funny to say that it's about the money to Oda yeah, but you also gotta see One Piece in its context

It failed worldwide

[brittle basin]

I always assume Euroball fans are the worst when their team loses and sets things on fire

[ashen perch]

largely due to 4kids

[leaden rivet]

Footy talk is as unpleasant as it sounds

[brittle basin]

wasn't Oda wealthy before it become popular in the West?

[pseudo gulch]

Soccer fans are by far the worst fans ever

[ashen perch]

So now that it has made this miraculous recovery, Oda's more than pleased I am sure

[ashen perch]

Yeah he was

[wet condor]

I used to be in some sports forums and shit and everyone gets slandered and there is no reasonable discussion possible. At one point in time it was fun to be in that environment when I was younger but I don't have any interest in that now lol

[pseudo gulch]

Especially the ones obsessed with the Messi vs Ronaldo rivalry

[brittle basin]

Ball not go in net=

[ashen perch]

One Piece was the best selling manga worldwide, even with only really Japan and France carrying the sales

Mostly Japan

[opal gull]

the only people allowed to have the name Eiichiro in Japan are people with net worth of 10mil dollars or above

Oda was always rich

[pulsar timber]

It wasn’t enjoyable to me even when I was younger because these folk say some truly dumb things

[ashen perch]

But Oda wanted that mass approval lol

[opal gull]

but that has been ended

Messi is clearly the best now

[solid stone]

Oda wanted that popeyes collab

[ashen perch]

Oda's never not been rich

[pseudo gulch]

I'm pretty sure some people decided to end their life after a WC game in the 50s

[brittle basin]

bro

[pseudo gulch]

The maracanazo

[ashen perch]

His manga was a hit from Syrup Village

[brittle basin]

wait that was too dark

[solid stone]

love the pfp buffy

[pulsar timber]

Wasn’t one piece the best selling manga of 2025? Unc still got it

[hazy turret]

Smoker has arrived

[brittle basin]

thank you thank you. only in the endgame of OP would you have a squirrel being smashed into the face of satan

[ashen perch]

Not even on any agenda shit but let's think about whose arc that was? Exactly.

[solid stone]

so true

[pseudo gulch]

I also think that Messi is better but I still appreciate Ronaldo and I can't stand when you praise one of them and the fans of the other one will flood the comments saying their favorite player is better

[opal gull]

can he save the LA???

[brittle basin]

The LA saves itself. COOOOOOOOPE

[hybrid hazel]

Not clearly but he is the best

[solid stone]

yeah notice how one piece fell off ever since kuro left the story

[ashen perch]

Smoker looked really bad

[solid stone]

we truly peaked in syrup village

[hazy turret]

He’s definitely aura farming rn

[brittle basin]

Smoker is decent. Tashigi is perfect though

[solid stone]

i love tashigi

[ashen perch]

I haven't seen it, but he had the worst cosplay vibes from what I did see

[pseudo gulch]

Tell em zyph

[solid stone]

she's so dorky

[leaden rivet]

Syrup village was peak

[solid stone]

we're talking LA right

[hazy turret]

So far, Nami is the best in the opla
Everyone else….

[pulsar timber]

18/27 years one piece has been the best selling manga of the year

[leaden rivet]

Kuro cooking Usopp this arc was the best part of it

[opal gull]

oh yeah man

I love them both, I was really sad when Ronaldo left RM, cause I knew El clasico wont be the same no more.

[brittle basin]

I don't know how they continue to screw some of it up honestly. But you'll see a lot of the budget went to Wapol's looks

[solid stone]

the sword shop scenes were great

loved ipponmatsu

[ashen perch]

Yeah, probably will be in 26 too, it has been so far

[opal gull]

Smoker doing what he does best

atleast the LA got that right

[pseudo gulch]

I'm not a fan of her hair personally but that's not her fault

[brittle basin]

I was really worried they were gonna easily screw up Zoro testing the sword and yet it was perfect.

[solid stone]

sorry but the new gen is taking the throne #kagurabachi (i have not been tapped in since chapter 2)

[hazy turret]

Oh yeah no all the wigs are terrible

[solid stone]

https://tenor.com/view/lougetown-zoro-roronoa-zoro-sword-spin-gif-13500437967837918645

where's this from?

was lookin for the LA version

I wonder if it's that one CG tribute

[pulsar timber]

That’s insane. People are not truly understanding how insane this run is

[pseudo gulch]

A fever dream

[solid stone]

I'm still confused why they didn't go for a realistic ginger wig for Nami

[ashen perch]

The anime is probably not coming out this year so we should be safe, next year is looking spooky though. KGB is definitely taking it

[solid stone]

KGB is a funny acronym

[pseudo gulch]

I don't think it's gonna be huge from the start

[brittle basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wIih7XmyIE

[hybrid hazel]

Messi is more skillful and has achieved more but he played in teams built around his play style whereas Ronaldo adapted but both are great

[opal gull]

in some centuries to come

the word "insane" will have a new meaning

[hazy turret]

Yeah…it’s such a shame

[pulsar timber]

Oh man im not ready for another wave of annoying Kagurabachi fans

[ashen perch]

What holds back OP's sales the most now is Oda only releasing 3 volumes a year and literally everyone who wants to read One Piece already owning the entire backlog

[solid stone]

Zoro's hair already looked natural, so it's weird that Nami was the stand out when she has a realistic hair color

[hazy turret]

Tashigi is here now

[solid stone]

unless the Hayley Williams do was intentional

[pseudo gulch]

It's gonna get ugly

And I'm all here for it

[brittle basin]

Oda's good. OP is more than popular enough, no matter how much he wants to be even more famous.

[wet condor]

Lol what you mean by this?

[ashen perch]

When the anime comes out, Kagurabachi is going to have its entire backlog sold out million times over. One Piece can't compete and that is fine yeah.

[urban lodge]

He really isn't lying LOL

[wet condor]

Like did Kagurabachi go on break?

[thick mango]

i been wondering who is mike brown and why do you hate him

[pulsar timber]

I already find them annoying being a battle shonen fandom and what not but the anime is gonna amplify it if it’s really good

[opal gull]

it was a failure iirc

[solid stone]

how many volumes do other manga usually release a year?

[ashen perch]

5

[solid stone]

[pulsar timber]

Head coach of the New York Knicks (basketball team)

[leaden rivet]

He wasn’t

[hazy turret]

The color would be fine if it was styled better honestly. I don’t know why they made the wig sort of poofy, it made it look lacking in volume

[leaden rivet]

Oda usually glazes fathers who abandon their children

[urban lodge]

Usopp got so pissed because he knows it's true

[solid stone]

i was looking for a gif and did not expect that to be the first result

[ashen perch]

Oda's more focused on The World now anyways, Japan has been largely wrung dry outside of the younger generation of manga fans

[leaden rivet]

Like Usopp he’s out at sea while his sick wife is dying wtf were you talking about

This entire family are just morons

[thick mango]

do you like the knicks and he isnt good? Or do you like some other team

[pulsar timber]

I like the Knicks and I hate him

[solid stone]

random question

what do sanji and nami have in common

[pulsar timber]

Their names end in i

[solid stone]

this isn't a trivia question, just figuring out what nami should talk w/ sanji about in tomodachi life

[solid stone]

the letter i it is

[pulsar timber]

Being afraid of bugs

[solid stone]

actually

sanji's afraid of bugs?

[hazy turret]

Umm dead mothers….?

[pulsar timber]

Yeah him and Nami are

Back in jaya they were scared shitless and also legoland

[ashen rose]

Yes

[warm sierra]

did you skip legoland

[solid stone]

if only i could figure out a way to make zoro and sanji hate each other

[solid stone]

my weekly brain is not the same it used to be.....

[ashen rose]

Unpossible

[pulsar timber]

Pair zoro with reiju

[solid stone]

writing a personal letter to shuntaro furukawa right now....

i only got the east blue straw hats so far

[ashen rose]

Insane way to piss off sanji

[pseudo gulch]

One Piece fans when someone doesn't remember something that happened in half a page years before and never had any relevant impact on the story ever again

[solid stone]

plan is straw hats -> vivi -> law and kid -> ace and sabo -> everyone else

[warm sierra]

it was literally in the anime last week 😭

[pulsar timber]

One piece fans when i rip their esophagus out

[solid stone]

so true

[opal gull]

[ashen rose]

Putting mid over ace is slanderous

[pseudo gulch]

Oh lmfao it's been a while since I last watched the anime

[solid stone]

supernova boyz > asl boyz i'm afraid

[ashen rose]

Based

[solid stone]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-captain-kid-monkey-d-luffy-supernova-trio-gif-22763357

[pseudo gulch]

Who are the American sign language boyz

[solid stone]

counterpart trios my beloved

[ashen rose]

Though I'd swap kid with blackbeard

Unless he's already there

[pulsar timber]

No one wants that fatty on the island

[solid stone]

they don't work as a trio

he's in his own league

[ashen rose]

Fatfobic

[pulsar timber]

I kinda want to try tomadacchi but I don’t have a switch

Might need to rob a bank

[solid stone]

yeah that might help

[pulsar timber]

Blackbeardphobic*

[ashen rose]

Piracy is always available

[pseudo gulch]

You LOVE Teach, stop it

[ashen rose]

We are in the one piece server after all

[pulsar timber]

Love is a strong word

[pseudo gulch]

You adore him

[solid stone]

okay sanji and nami will discuss mothers

[leaden rivet]

This Blackbeard hate is starting to get suspicious, what do you REALLY hate about him?

[pulsar timber]

Think about poor Nintendo though

[pulsar timber]

What is Sus

[ashen rose]

Damn, forgot about that

[solid stone]

"I was just thinking about mothers too" - Sanji

[leaden rivet]

If Blackbeard was say, a skinny white man, how would that make you feel? 🤨

[solid stone]

[ashen rose]

They unseasoned my villain

[pulsar timber]

I’d hate on him still

[solid stone]

would've been funnier if i made it singular so it can double as them talking about "mother" (video game series)

[leaden rivet]

Hmm Idkkk

[ashen rose]

Peak reference

[pulsar timber]

I’d like Blackbeard if he were a god fearing American patriot

[ashen rose]

Mother 3 20th birthday too

[solid stone]

oh yeah i saw merch stuff the other day

[ashen rose]

Shame it ain't never getting localized officially

[solid stone]

i never got around to playing mother 3 but i might have to larp............
https://x.com/i/status/2046047248438693941

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X · Apr 20, 2026, 2:04 AM

[ashen rose]

Bro, play it, seriously, could not stop crying

But you will have to play earthbound first

[solid stone]

it's on the eventual list™

[ashen rose]

It's like, 24 hours of play time

[solid stone]

yeah that's the main reason i haven't played it yet

i never finished earthbound lol

[ashen rose]

Damn

[solid stone]

started a few times but they usually ended me in pausing for a while and never getting back to it

[ashen rose]

"huge Earthbound fan excited to play it for the first time"

[solid stone]

it'll happen one of these days

so true

[ashen rose]

That happens to me whenever I pick a new rpg tbh, I play it for a few hours, get lost, lose interest, forget about it for months, play it again, finish it in 2 days

[blazing depot]

Definition of insanity

[ashen rose]

Happened with earthbound, Chrono trigger, pokemon emerald, final fantasy 7

[solid stone]

lol same exact line up except for emerald

FF7 was the one I got the farthest in, finished RSE as a kid though

I wanna say I got 80% into FF7, but can't specify where I was at here

[ashen rose]

Wow, so close to finishing it, do you still have the save file?

[solid stone]

it's been almost a year and half since I last picked it up so not sure if I restart or just recap the story

yep, still there

[solid stone]

did he do this for Egghead

[opal gull]

It will be a failure in terms of battle

Luffy and Loki will get packed up

but there will be no consequences ie Someone getting taken hostage, or Elbaf getting destroyed or SH having to escape cause Imu too strong

I think after they lose, Imu just teleports back because he is in a hurry.

[ashen rose]

If you still know how to play it, go for it

[solid stone]

one of these days

[ashen rose]

Why ZKI WILL HAPPEN

[urban lodge]

Pretty sure Morj's answer is no, so Imu bros we're safe

[solid stone]

haven't been gaming too much since i've been focusing on other things so idk when that'll be

[ashen rose]

I play it on my phone with an emulator

But if you're too busy then it's best to focus on those things first

Priorities and such

[solid stone]

for sure

eventually will be able to loop back into a VG phase again

[ashen rose]

The raid will end in failure

[hazy turret]

Lol Buggy is the best one by a mile actually

[solid stone]

yep I was there for that lol

[hazy turret]

THIS is acting

[solid stone]

also just noticed that they're all the same size here (relatively)

[urban lodge]

You should have watched episode 2 of season 1 smh

That's the Buggy episode

[solid stone]

either loki shrank or g5 luffy is in giant mode

[opal gull]

Buggy also carried S1

[ashen rose]

"third time's the charm"

[solid stone]

oh you're watching OPLA rn?

[ashen rose]

I think it's just morj getting the sizes wrong

[hazy turret]

I might watch a compilation

[hazy turret]

Yarp

[solid stone]

his loguetown stuff was great

[solid stone]

one letter away from larp

[hazy turret]

!!!

[solid stone]

reminded me

saw someone who thought "larp" was garp slander the entire time and didn't realize it was slang

[opal gull]

[ashen rose]

It still is tbh

[digital spear]

Lol I had hoped this would happen

Zyph what do you think of imgu

[hazy turret]

Loool buggy wearing that judge wig thing during Luffy’s “trial”

[solid stone]

i still think about the introduction cards

[digital spear]

Technically possible

[solid stone]

that ability reveal was a whole title drop moment

[digital spear]

The Egghead raid did fail. The Gorosei raided and failed.

[solid stone]

i'm not sure what it's called when you do a title drop but with an established term

[digital spear]

DEVIL ... FRUIT

!!!

[solid stone]

like when chapter 1000 called itself "Mugiwara no Luffy"

[solid stone]

but it did exactly that and gave me chills

[digital spear]

Pointing at screen moment

[solid stone]

also big fan of the cartoony evil effects and singing houses

in contrast with his design

[digital spear]

Same

[ocean totem]

So Imu's just Bege with divinity

I'm all for it

[solid stone]

[ocean totem]

Imu's like Bege and Big Mom's fruits gained a god complex together it seems so far

[digital spear]

Hes kind of a mix of Bege and Nami

Or idk abby 5

[ocean totem]

Instead of stealing souls, Imu imparts some

And then that enhances whatever it touches instead of only inanimate objects and animals

[digital spear]

Baby* 5 but what if her real name was Abby

[blazing depot]

Imu’s powerset is “fuck you I win” and random bullshit

[opal gull]

so basically he is storing the "homies" inside him

like Bege

[frigid gulch]

Omen is his main power

Weapon based fighting style

[ashen rose]

GUN

[opal gull]

Also Im pretty sure its all DF based

rather than Maki/Evil Haki stuff lmao

[ashen rose]

He probably just has every arsenal in the world

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-cat-blicky-fatcatblicky-parthza-gif-5915741340503990127

[formal wagon]

maki > omen

maki is the haki killer

[ashen rose]

I still want to see him use guns again

[frigid gulch]

But Loki is really like the Law in this case

[ocean totem]

Exactly, I'm guessing the eyes are to represent souls taken over some time or something I dunno

[ashen rose]

Ew, AI

[formal wagon]

Loda is breaking the glass and adding yet another arbitrary power system

[solid stone]

no it's real

the cat actually did that

[opal gull]

yeah

also do you believe these powers are DF based? rather than Maki/Evil Haki ?

[trim lily]

he finally broke the glass ceiling

[opal gull]

Cause tbh Maki would be a different power system

[wet condor]

Hoping Imu pulls out a minigun or some shit

[digital spear]

glass logia

[ocean totem]

Yeh, this is all fruit stuff, but there's haki mixed in for sure

[formal wagon]

i mean like for the fire extinguisher

[wet condor]

Imu needs to pull out a buggy ball minigun

[ashen rose]

Imu

[frigid gulch]

So Luffy is saying he’s Joyboy > or the same thing as Gaban

[wet condor]

https://tenor.com/view/imback-hey-terminator-gatling-gun-gif-13262475

[opal gull]

oh yeah for sure

[trim lily]

i realized that a bit too late but i like my interpretation

[frigid gulch]

I assume he means it’s really ominous

[wet condor]

Just fucking decimates the place

[ashen rose]

When I first read this I thought someone was saying something in french

[formal wagon]

glass mythical zoan

[digital spear]

glass haki

[scarlet nacelle]

genuine question
do you guys think imu actually sees himself as the good guy in all of this? because the more i think about it the less absurd the idea seems

[trim lily]

maybe to some degree

[frigid gulch]

Omen not working against Teach

[trim lily]

but i also think imu is a bit self aware

[formal wagon]

and we're back to omen

[ocean totem]

Conqueror's has a physically heavy presence

[opal gull]

I guess next chap Loki loses and we have a stareoff Luffy vs Imu at the end and Luffy is already in G5

[pulsar timber]

Luffy saying things real ball knowers already knew

[formal wagon]

why

[ocean totem]

No, maybe the person to bring absolute order and peace through that, but I don't think good is a factor

[digital spear]

I think Omen is actually a new rokushiki technique

[formal wagon]

NGL when imu was infodumping i tuned out

[urban lodge]

I really hope his anger towards Joyboy is somewhat justified, I want Joyboy to have screwed up somehow

[frigid gulch]

Ye but he also says “what’s with the haki”

[pulsar timber]

I don’t think imu cares to believe himself the good guy. May even see himself above all that

[frigid gulch]

Their presences seem to all be abnormal

[trim lily]

probably that

[ocean totem]

Yeh, 'cause conqueror's is a physical presence

[ashen rose]

He just doesn't care tbh

But I don't think he does

[trim lily]

imu is too much of a god to care about morality

at least after having lived this long

[ashen rose]

We need more characterization on him to be sure

[dark nymph]

what if Joyboy was kind of a jerk

[opal gull]

I think yes

Its like a bit of spoiled brat typa thing

[ocean totem]

I can see Imu being amoral at the best, but not good

[pulsar timber]

I feel like in general most one piece villains don’t try to portray themselves as the good guy. They just kinda do whatever they want

[frigid gulch]

It is that but it can still have an ominous quality I think

[ashen rose]

"what if it was justified"

[trim lily]

i feel like it’s the opposite

[pulsar timber]

Dont*

[dark nymph]

ayooo thats not what im sayin 😭

[trim lily]

oh oop

[ocean totem]

Yeh, the "heavy" part is just the force of it, but Imu's haki and the elders feel bad

[digital spear]

Imu did nothing wrong

[ocean totem]

Just like how Shanks's felt familiar and more comfortable to Luffy

[frigid gulch]

Ye like when they teleport in

[ashen rose]

I mean, again we need to actually see how the void era was to be sure

[trim lily]

yeah most op villains don’t really try to justify themselves in terms of good, they’re just acting on their own desires

[scarlet nacelle]

he seemed to be mad at joyboy for something
and not just because joyboy tried stopping him, but because in some personal way joyboy wronged him

[frigid gulch]

It’s called abnormal

The same for Harald’s haki

[digital spear]

omenous

[frigid gulch]

When he was controlled

[opal gull]

maybe a jerk from Imu's pov

but from a general perspective Joyboy was right and Imu was wrong but wanted Joyboy to be on his "side"?

[ashen rose]

It's been 800 years bro, please let your ex go

[brittle basin]

Imu's actions with Lulusia will take some heavy lifting from Oda to make us feel for him besides merely a sad backstory. Like, you need some damn good justification for that. I know of a story that does just that but I won't mention it here.

[trim lily]

imu might’ve thought the ancient kingdom to be genuinely bad

[frigid gulch]

I’m just waiting for Imu to name drop Rocks now

[pulsar timber]

I like that about one piece villains. Doesn’t come off as preachy

[ashen rose]

No way in hell oda's gonna try to make Imu feel sympathetic

[blazing depot]

He wanted JoyBoy

[frigid gulch]

And then Loki goes crazy or something

[ashen rose]

Oda's not that type of author

[digital spear]

He already did that and Loki was like did you just say Rocks?

[trim lily]

wait until imu’s 20 chapter backstory

[brittle basin]

Never say never.

[frigid gulch]

Yep but that’s very mild

[digital spear]

Lmaooo shes pregnant with the poneglyphs

[ashen rose]

Nah, oda never fails to make celestial dragons and marines (except for Garp) a bunch of chuds

[brittle basin]

If Oda made that canon I would accept it without question.

[ashen rose]

And Imu is gonna be the chuddest of them all

[scarlet nacelle]

i don't want imu to be sympathetic but i do wanna see his thinking
what brings him to where he is now?

[solid stone]

they should redo this but with the proper design on the bottom right panel

[brittle basin]

Didn't one CD get some slightly mild redemption in a weird way?

[frigid gulch]

I’m saying Imu talks about turning Rocks into a demon

[ashen rose]

THAT'S what I'm actually thinking

[solid stone]

actually i'm still curious what he looks like with the crown

[opal gull]

It might be the opposite

Imu loved Joyboy but Joyboy chose Lily?

[ashen rose]

Kinda like doflamigo

[hazy turret]

Mjosgard?

[brittle basin]

yeah

[ocean totem]

Ya'll forgot about Homing and Mjosgard

[blazing depot]

“I’m not gay Imu”

[frigid gulch]

Soymu

[dark nymph]

yeah, I hope its something like that, it would be kinda boring if it was the typical way it plays out

[ocean totem]

and Shanks

[opal gull]

The guy that got executed

[pulsar timber]

I don’t see the problem with imu having a sad/sympathetic backstory. Oda gives them to his villains but he never uses them to justify their actions. They’re simply an explanation for how they became the way they di

[ocean totem]

and Rosinante lol

[digital spear]

Same I was sad when he put it off. I want to see how the Imu whos always in the Mariejois scenes looked like exactly

[solid stone]

rosinante especially

[opal gull]

yeah lol

[frigid gulch]

Wasn’t this “Ragna Izuchi”

[ocean totem]

Oda's made several Celestial Dragons decent

[pulsar timber]

This is a clash between possibly the two strongest beings on the planet

[ashen rose]

Yes

[cunning narwhal]

yeah

[solid stone]

i'm under the impression that the design we're seeing is a different form

[ashen rose]

Outside of sabo, I can't remember any of them

[brittle basin]

Imu's actions will be "I love being evil cause demonology is poggers (which he's already stated)" or "here are my edgy edgelord justifications." There is a third option but I can't mention it without spoiling another story. If Oda goes that route however, it could definitely work.

[solid stone]

could be wrong though

[pulsar timber]

Doffys flashback is tragic but he’s a shit person still

[hazy turret]

I don’t think it counts if they didn’t grow up as celestials

[ocean totem]

Sabo's not a Celestial Dragon

[opal gull]

Doffy's father

[ocean totem]

and we just named them

[digital spear]

Yeah Imu didnt have horns earlier

[solid stone]

and the crown silhouette was just an abstract silhouette like loki's

[trim lily]

it explains the way he is but it doesn’t justify it

[ocean totem]

Sabo's just general royalty related, he was never a World Noble

[ashen rose]

Yeah I can understand that

[frigid gulch]

Blud copying the Hawk

[hazy turret]

Homing and Mjosgard were the only ones who had to actively do some unlearning

[solid stone]

Island Noble

[pulsar timber]

Like father like son

[trim lily]

i still don’t believe how homing turned

[ocean totem]

Rosinante too to a lesser degree

[trim lily]

he had no reason to as far as we know

[ashen rose]

He got stabbed twice

[dark nymph]

Joyboy was laughing with Lili here

[urban lodge]

The upscale never ends

[ashen rose]

Once in his childhood

[frigid gulch]

But it was just an Omen sword

[ashen rose]

Now here

[frigid gulch]

WorstGen really is the worst

[ocean totem]

Just figured it out

[frigid gulch]

[digital spear]

!pfp @hazy turret

[tropic nova]

Here is @hazy turret's avatar.

[ocean totem]

Philosophized himself into it

[digital spear]

snow creature

[ashen rose]

Seel

[somber flare]

virgin blob imu vs chad joyboy

[digital spear]

snowball that came to life

[cunning narwhal]

he's milking those interaction payouts 😭

[opal gull]

Homing made a mistake tbh

could have been a nice guy and help the regular people while still staying in Marijois

[thick mango]

I wonder if kyros fight on the sunflower field had imu fight in the flower room in mind with the other mariejoa stuff in dressrosa

[hazy turret]

He was like 4 years old when they left but im sure there was some sort of mental work he had to do

[trim lily]

homing was extremely naive