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It makes more sense for the burn scar man to be from the Roger era
Not that easy
yeah well youre not getting a rundown of things here
Lily with perpetual youth surgery

I dont think it has to be
She distributed them before and still gaurding 1 now 
a few things only you don't miss much 
the burn scar is just the biggest gatekeeper of the One Piece, he's holding the final piece in the puzzle
also a pretty new addition given Roger didn't have to chase him down when he wanted to see the poneglyphs
does imu's reveal showing up before burnscar mean burnscar is even bigger of a shock?
no
did u change ur username?
from?
It doesn't have to be but logically he would be, there was no burn scar man in Roger's era, so it more possible for him to be from Roger's era or crew who is gatekeeping the final key to give it to the right person
catch up
idk i am wondering if you were a regular who chaged their name
why do people ask for arc summaries in here
sabaku
but reversed
Wonder what the motivation behind that will be
woke readers
oh
So that they can get the motivation to pick it up again
maybe a command from the voidcentury?
I no Lunarian papi I’m demon
I mean, the theories about it being a former Roger pirate do make sense. It would just be sort of lame
just read it
is flame man a burn scar victim or do yall think he will have flame markings on him
👍
Yeah he didnt, but at the same time, it could be that his arrival in either Lodestar or Laugh Tale kicked off what leads to the Burn Scar gatekeeping the One Piece.
it's gonna be Roger's front hand man 
is not the same 

it could be an ancient being, and Roger would still be responsible for it without the person actually being from his era
like for example, and just an example
if Davy was cursed to stay at Lodestar
maybe Roger freed him somehow
just let it be a completely new character
I don’t think he has to have learned of the significance of the poneglyphs after Roger did
have it be the previous emperor before Shanks or something
thats so boring
it's not
do we even know if they were any?
it really is, and it doesnt make any sense
It's not impossible that they were just 3 emperors before
i think it makes as much sense as Davy Jones out of everyone being it
we are hinokizu
This guy isnt trying to find the One Piece, he's only keeping one piece of it, he's preventing others from getting the final piece of the puzzle
a pirate from the modern era would surely have the motive of finding the OP, this guy doesnt lol
we are mbbf
it doesn't even have to be a pirate
Shiryu speculated that it could be someone from the World Government
I hope he's full on doesn't want the one piece found, and not waiting for the chosen one or something
doesnt mbbf have navy connections?
yes, he was the former king of the world
ochoku fits your cateogries 
But he's probably imprisoned at hachinosu and is waiting his son caribou to do smth
nah
Surprisingly I lowkey like Arsal’s idea about the revos coming
Hopefully not something like testing pirates either
We feeling like the “burns” from the burn scar man came from something Omen related?
Could be
Why wouldnt he? that would make him an accomplice of the WG and we have enough of those
yeah
highly doubt it
Rumor, but it should still be considered as option given oda gave a panel talking ab it
well i would rather anything other than Davy Jones magically being alive
rumors have a tendency to turn out to be true in one piece
Davy Jones being alive for so fucking long and not doing shit would make no sense
he's cursed
that makes perfect sense, he was cursed
i would despise it
absolutely hate it
mbbf is a maki manifestation
Davy Jones should be dead
youre opposed to an idea based off just nothing
Davy Jones was never even said to be dead 😭
CURSED TO LIVE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA
LIVE
L I V E
joyboy, davy, imu, and lily are all still alive
another word of saying he drowned
Davy Jones perhaps was the king of the ancient kingdom
but sure go off
Well you don’t really need a reason to dislike something or to like it
That is literally his namesake curse as well lol
I’m out of the loop. Is this an abbreviation for Burn Scars full title?

That’s like, literally what Davy Jones is
I doubt lily is alive

lets be real
yes
For some reason whitebeard’s hair is wrong to me
I can’t explain it
It’s just wrong
They made my fishman go bald 💔
I am sure this devil is capable of cursing Davy, just as the story claims
peak flashback
My hair was to my shoulders a year or 2 ago 😔
barbel buzz cut is crazy
Davy Jones, Zombie Rocks and BB team up against Imu
Way to hit it where it hurts king
no they wont
Davy will hate BB
I just took a guess 
Davy will LOVE Luffy

Rocks on steroids
thats gonna be the whole idea, Burn Scar is looking for the man worthy of the final poneglyph, worthy of the One Piece
Wow
ITS BEAUTIFUL
Why does everyone assume Davey and rocks would hate Bb?
at that point why didn't they do the same to Joyboy
why does it always have to be fucking Davy
we know Joyboy died
this whole Davy clan shit is so stupid i am sorry
!?
Like the only thing rocks may dislike is that he killed his crew
just hating to hate
For some reason, there’s this standard that only bb has to live up to
It makes sense tbh
BB creates clones of darkness in the form of his predecessors
the Davy clan has been shoved into everything at this point
Wow ukabas is sabaku
It's embarrassing writing

maybe Imu just wanted Davy to suffer? maybe he was a fishman or a fish fruit user so he was able to survive underwater?
there's a lot to it, that we dont know anyways
They really haven’t. We barely know anything about them.
i mean sure if we've seen any other fish fruit in the story
Well with Imu cutting up BB’s poster and last chapter, it seemed planned for god knows how long
the Live Action? theres no date yet so I cant help you with that
Apparently official colors?
Davey idk, rocks because of how people compare his and BB's actions not being the same. At least that's what I think is the reason
Oda just introduced it though
The same was probably done to zunesha
it's so dumb
I want to see more of that yeti holy knight
need to learn more about the baddie in the middle
Garling’s shirt is so shite
WARCH OUT ITS THE ROGRR PIRATES
I honestly do like the theory hody jones is related to the davy clan
No shot it's official
The whole thing really
I like Maffey's teal on purple
Im really curios about the big dude in the back
Garling still looks like a tool though.
Last I checked the colored volumes were at the start of Egghead
Colours look stunning though
Where are yall getting these colored panels
i posted these before, they are official colorings by a fan
they're not "official" colorings
We don't know
that makes sense
They don’t look sharp enough to be official
if they're by a fan, they are by definition not official
In some spots
Look at this SAUCE
If I didn't know who they are, I would think they're a circus gang
Official colour scheme of Sommers though is 
Just realized rocks skin is lighten than blackbeards 
Maybe that trait is from his mom
The last cool moment shiki ever had onscreen 
BB is like that too pretty sure
I think I js have alzheimers
The color manga needs to speed tf up btw
They so slow
They still in Egghead volume 2

why are they so slow?
Why does Rocks have jaundice?
@dense rapids

Why is streusen PINK
he looks so puntable

He is, he's an insane enabler.
I hope it's true, the anime made the black haired girl blonde
Foxy is in charge of the project
damn it
oda has one marker he uses for king, and one for everyone else
He eating way too many mandarins
Oda when you ask him to draw multiple skin colors
Why did god create mosquitos
Oda when you ask him to design a character without a furry belt, a feather jacket, or wearing a coat without the sleeves
Fr. Mosquitos serve no purpose tbh 😭
So Moths had competition
I hate mosquitoes
Moths are fine
tbf the coat without sleeves IS hard
Fuck mosquitos tho
reading one piece genuinely fucks up your perception of pacing because every time i read a new series im like man this is so good if only there was about 600 more chapters for a little more depth
They do that?
Yes
They ALL are hard
Its just funny
Yeah
Smh
i didnt know fronsen was a moth lawyer
Gil bastar not being on there is a crime
Let them in your homes
They're also beautiful
I like their colours
this but with like current OP itself, where I hope that it was paced more like One Piece every week 😔
It's like a kid drew them
They come in basically every and any colour
Almost unnatural
Fluff bugs
no seriously because WHO are these randos instead
Oda fumbled big by not adding gil
i think i have a vague memory of the x sunglasses guy but thats it
Oda fumbled by making it Rocks pirates centric
It should have had Roger and Garp
Marlon and ganzui got that drip though
She's probably older than him
We don't know that
we know that
We don't
She's at least in her 70s
Lame
It should have been 10 characters: Rocks, Harald, Ida, Loki, Roger, Garp, Shakky, Garling, Big Mom, Kaido
who is know and that is why we is
No whitebeard 👎
if shiki is on there, his rival has to be too
I forgot
Gunko was barely 20-25 in gv tho
ida is a bum why would she be on the cover
She was way older
That would make her like 2 when he saw her in the flower room
Wait what
It was 56 years ago
Hope we get a panel request that includes Harold, would love to see more artwork of him
Wait nvm
Make that 34
I think its too early to assume
We don't know rocks age tho
I'm guessing he's somewhere in his 40s or 50s
During the flower room incident
Ah that's what you meant
It's particularly hard to tell because he's ugly as shit
Good for me tho
Also theres a reason why we didn't see rocks mom in gv
Harold didn't grow back his hair after he shaved it. He was gonna bald anyways
Still reeling that he broke the Gates of Justice
Luffy can do that
A lot of people can do that
That impressed me more then him killing an Admiral
Harold jumping off the red line "casually" was also insane.
We don't hsve a confirmed height of that yeah?
I dont think so
We don't
after a certain point it doesnt really matter
These feats are marvels of oda's world building lol
I can't help but appreciate it
any chance that Ray is coming to Elpaf to "save" them?
No
last time we saw him he was in a puddle of his own tears with booze in his hand
I'll have to rewatch the scene but I think I remember the vice admirals at least being left
Anyone thinking Gaban could die here?
I keep thinking why is he just sitting over by himself doing nothing. What's his purpose?
..
he has plot armor
thats a red herring
What if Elbaf isn't intact
Then again, he kinda already had a death scene...and so did Ripley....so not sure
Ilya convinced me that's a death certificate
Illya is wrong
There are many such cases like this
I have a feeling it's not going to be intact. The Heaven realm needs to come into play and we've seen a lot of fire on a tree that's supposedly especially allergic to fire.
The tree is gonna burn down and the arc will end with a new one being planted
Loki the gardener
It would be funny that with Killy up again, the first thing he does is crush the Library and School
I want him to chop up jimbei
He won't but he probably will get a bit of retribution
Probably kick him and Sanji while they're down or something
well he personally wants revenge on Sanji
Sure, though Imu probably has orders for him right now
meaning we'll have sommers vs gerd
probably more like Sommers vs Zoro
Gerd and Sanji both got their comeuppance
"I don't need more than 6 fingers to defeat you"
Sommers had a problem with Gerd, not Zoro
He immediately left the place where she was though lol
Gerd herd about to go down
He also left the place where Zoro was too, I think Imu destroying Gerd was enough for him
He doesnt care about Zoro but Zoro will care about stopping him probably
If I was Zoro, my mind would be on Imu, not Sommers
Imu is the obvious threat
Sommers is clearly a lackey
Wommers is more fun
Well the SH can communicate
I cant find a single panel of imu with more than 13 eyes in the omen ring. Idk if that has something to do with the covenant limit
Thinking in the mind of Zoro or Sanji, both of them if they could get up, would regroup with Luffy to take Imu down
I think there's one where he has like 18, but its not consistant
sommers has the weapon that most resembles a sword, meaning he will fight zoro
where cause I cant find it
Isn't it more of a club?
yeah
That finger moves too much
but it's more sword like than the trident
Its very woobly
no bones
Oda is going back on that. Tho I would be very impressed if he keeps them as lasting injuries
Gore Piece is crazy rn
I still think it's funny that Gerd went back to pick up sommers after Imu arrived
A cute toy
she was running with this fainting child when Imu arrived, and ran back to play with sommers again
Whom shld I vote for today
Vander Decken
ragnir
You clearly have priorities
Everyone who wants to vote for ragnir can vote for biblu btw
well, only when people ask. I have my own characters I vote for
So are you willingly giving me a hateful character
yes
Vote Buggy
Biblu is his pet name smh
Its biblo
Why do you make me say it
Don't do this again pls
wait. how do you spell it?
Bilbo

bible I think
Vote imu if you don’t want to be nuked
I have already voted for him
Then who are u voting for
this week I've devoted to porche
You have to also count the small eyes
how can you say no to this gal
Sassy
why is my panel so different
the scans have been using AI upscaling this week, so using the arabic scans is the most accurate atm
Thigh
that's me
ig it's better to wait for official
yeah
nice
🦉
19 eyes for the other 19 kings
that's another option
this is kinda crazy. ngl
cause imu definitely has some kind of soul harvesting ability
This week it's gonna be trebol
wait. is there a special way to get those pink things since you say the vote "still counts"?
yay
It's funny because I think you're supposed to go to a physical location and scan a qr code but the qr code just sends you to that link, so you can just bypass it
What fr?😭
lol! expecting one piece fans to go to a physical location is wild
Yeah I think
Idk if hype kage is reliable tho
Ganfal loyalist
Coolll
It took me a minute to realize who this was because I recognize her as Laki
I can't believe I remember her name tbh
Laki is what she went by in the Funi dub
baki
Goda foreshadowing
Imu is just shednija
Chicken Jaki
weebcentral
yo tell me how this cubari works
yay
oh you just click the link and read it lol
wdym?
yea but i wanna read previous chapters
at home, at work, at school, on an airplane, on a train or basically anywhere you want
you wont get the previous on cubari
AHAHAHAHAH nice try kid!
just go to that site that I told you about, you'll get all the chapters
anyways, I just saw this, the arc is basically guaranteed to be the 3rd longest atp now
23 is a lot of chapters
dont make me say it
literally impossible
i think 80 is a fair estimate for an upper end
nuh uh most arcs end before 80
multiple flashbacks, multiple fights, payoff
1192 is the 67th chapter of this arc right
most arcs were not Elbaf
thats true
Someone confirm this
What else do you think is happening this arc?
it all hinges on the heaven realm being real basically
Heaven Realm is real but even if I minus it, the arc is still 80 chapters
i think the fighting can go on for like 4-8 more chaps if we consider imu, gunko, sommers and killingham all seperately, maybe throw in a flashback
I honestly have given up trying to predict things this arc
its a fool's errand
but if we plus it, it's 80 chapters
my most conservative estimate for the arc still includes
- a fairly long fighting section here, I am thinking 15-20 chapters easily
- flashbacks, Gunko/Brook, Loki II, Jarul(yes) - thats like 10 chapters on its own
- cutaways - also 10 chapters
- post arc + heaven realm - 20 chapters
thats 50-55 total
I dont think the time limit allows for fighting for that long imo
barely
Minimum 16 chapters more
I dont think the fighting will be that long
Remember Onigashima was the climax of a whole saga
This is not
less pressure on Oda to finish the series back then, Wano was sunk cost fallacy
well yes, but this is still a major arc just like any of the other major arcs, where we have had climaxes that lasted even longer than that
Alabasta, Skypiea, Water 7, Thriller Bark, Dressrosa, Wano
just feels like this arc is moving at a much faster pace, almost like Oda threw in legoland as a little treat bc he knew shit would hit the fan immediately
even Punk Hazard and Egghead's climaxes did last 20 chapters
I think this arc isnt as fast as Egghead
I dont mind
Well anyway 20chaps more yeah
we are pretty much already past the murder mystery part of Elbaf and are at the planetfall point and we have LESS chapters than egghead rn and you can then also subtract the long ass flashback from that
how many chaps we on
25 more then
thats reasonable
also tbh
the only way this happens is if the WG just runs through their opponents
which is fine, it can happen for sure
i think we tend to overestimate how long fights usually are
especially in a case like this with imu
Wait Arsal do you think there will be 55 more chapters
I think you guys are underestimating it because we havent had real fights since Onigashima
We are on 55th chapter right
yeah
Zoro vs Lucci was a real fight
thats an insult to real fights
I dont really see anything suggesting Elbaf will have real fights tbh
that shit made me suicidal
Egghead having no real fights was my main problem with the arc though
luffy vs kizaru was a fight
granted not an exclusive 1v1
yeah
No and it sucked
Luffy v Kizaru was a quick altercation
I want to post my dumb egghead rewrite some day
wasnt king vs zoro like 2-3 chaps in the manga
3+
Sommers is stronger than king
in actual content or spread out over 3 with cutting to other stuff in the first two
someone did a page count
Omen gotta be terrible for the powerscaler community
what about it
He is now
yeah I am looking at it now, Zoro v King was 54 pages according to it and I believe its cutting the fluff
oh so 3 chaps
the running around, the setup, buildup, etc
my estimate still holds then
He was previously as well until you believe king is somewhat as strong as old gaban
3+...
16-18
the 17th page isnt a real page
Luffy vs Kizaru was a bottom 5 fight in the series
its a cover page
which would be 3+!
Would yall read it? 🥹
3rd or 4th
maybe
Sanji upscale
ok the arc is not ending in 13 chapters
unless..
It's 55 right now?
Its not lasting 78 chapters arsal...
yea 55
Old Gaban cut him in half
So I'm giving it 20 more
Wat
That would make it 4th
O
Its not lasting more than wci
it easily will
Cap
Nah,
What is even gonna happen
nothing here is indicating that the arc is actually ending soon, I am not sure whats making people so confident in that

I can definitely see 70 or 80 chapters at minimum
Imu literally has a clock
we have merely entered a new phase of the battle, and its just getting started
Never underestimate Oda when it comes chapter count
Wasn't that an ambush situation , also old gaban is stronger than king
Well Imu is packing everyone fast, and Oda in general seems to be on a faster pace since egghead, if Oda suddenly decides to switch back to Onigashima tier pacing then yeah this aint going for 80 its going for 100
Oda is an expert at making time limits last forever
how many chapters is soon to you
Because the story has already been through 3 acts. We are at the end of the climax
he could have only 15 minutes and it wouldnt matter because manga time is different than real time
The only sign I would believe the arc is ending is if Sommars and Killingham are defeated
Imu gonna cut Loki into pieces
we're at the beginning of the climax at best
Dressrosa's was 10 chapters
well their fights are incoming soon
less than 10-15
At least few chapters than now
@rustic hamlet no other-series please
It depends on if they get defeated this arc. I mean think about it. You beat them and then what, they just stay here on elbaph?
why though?
Itll hurt Oda's feelings if people talk about other series in the OP server as well
Imu gonna capture luffy and we have marineform 2.0
Oda would be the first one 😆
although, I said it before, its always worth noting the editor's notes on this
the editor still hasnt actually claimed that we're in the climax
The editor isn't really a good measure
it'll hurt oda's feelings if people didn't talk about nami's used lingerie all the time
from chapter to chapter? yes
but an editor is able to tell that an arc is in its climax lol
The moment I saw Imu prep for Round 2 I knew it wasnt over yeah
We're gonna have Luffy stall
and then he'll get back in
the editor jebaited yall in Wano
Considering the conflict of the arc is to save Elbaf from being completely taken over by Imu and holy knights, escape isn’t an option here
imu captures luffy and usopp becomes the captain temporally
Egghead's climax was said to begin when Kizaru went down and Saturn arrived, the editor was right on that
If you think so, I go more by the set up and story structure of the arc itself
this is it, this is how usopp fans will bounce back
can you resend the link to the arabic scans?
yeah 1s
tyty
Yeah it’s long way to go
I have a feeling his current plan is different at least considering his demeanor.
the latest editor note reflected that too, ''with the arrival of that man, we will enter a more intense battle now!?''
So what’s the likelihood of Bonney giving people their own imitations of g5
I think Imu is going to try to get the most done in the small amount of time he has. He's being extremely efficient and not wasting his time. I also don't feel like this is going to end in a win either for the SHs
uncomfortably high
Probably 0.5%
but what happens then
if anything Luffy has to be the buffer
I can't see her doing anything right now, Oda has held her back to basically background
I dont disagree, but you dismissed my Revos idea Irene, whats your escape plan here
X 100 thats 50% got it
It’s a travesty
what is saving the crew from certain death
How would the revs know tho
coincidence
Who knows, it all depends on Oda himself, after all we all thought about Egghead ending way earlier than expected and we were all wrong about that
its like Loguetown, Dragon did not have to know that Buggy was going to try to execute Luffy
He did know about Smoker I guess, but he didnt know that Luffy would be nearly arrested by him either ofc
well yeah that is why he went there
that just opens a can of worms on why was dragon not there every time Luffy was in mortal danger tbh, like Marineford
if he knew smoker he prob knew smoker was a logia
he went there for his son's sake
he wasnt getting involved in Marineford, and ofc Luffy wasnt even supposed to be involved anyways
the Revos coming to Elbaph is such a good move by Oda if he does it
he must have known of his relationship with ace and his son demeanor, how is that less likely than luffy going to loguetown
I explained it here, the idea is that the Revos are coming for reasons unrelated to the HKs and Imu being here.
I think that Imu will take down Loki and Luffy and he will do something that will cause the tree the practically collapse. He will kill 1-2 people though I don't know who. He will then leave either because he is weakened or because Vivi comes or something and he wants to take her to Marijois. He and the knights leave, the knights have their own mission, not sure what but I assume that they are going to spend their time now doing that.
The SHs and everyone else will have to escape to Heaven Realm for safety and Loki even badly wounded along with the SHs and maybe Hajrudin will help hold the tree up until everyone can get to safety.
That's at least my current ideas.
i think its the opposite lmao
???
nah nah I always said egghead was going to be a long arc
why?
i dont want this arc to have more players join in
I mean I like the idea, I just don't like the reasoning of it
Dragon showing up would be hype icl
Loguetown is directly on Luffy's route atleast
its on everyone's route
I think Dragon didnt know about any of the mortal dangers
he went there to see off his son as he is going into the Grand Line
thats all
that doesn’t make any sense tho, how would they know Imu and the holy knights are attacking Elbaph. My reason makes more sense.
I just did a side by side comparison with these three. I love how opscans made nami skinnier and a bishounen
Grok, add pregnancy scars
what was your reason?
it wont have anything to do with the HKs or Imu
how are they going to the heaven realm of the tree falls
Dragon will be coming for the reasons that I explained in my post
arsals is just fate piece, which is plausible tbh
read this smh
why not?
Dolf I have no clue what is going to satisfy you
Also wld lead us to the name of the ancient kingdom
i like the current set of characters
Which is what I want from this arc
Dragon came and visited Luffy when he could up until he finally set off to sea. Him being there for him in Loguetown was like him seeing him off. He wasn't expecting danger, but he would protect him nonetheless. After that, Luffy was basically his own man now so Dragon is going to trust that he can handle himself
yeah
id rather they try to figure out how to win/survive here than an outside force come in to save the day or make things harder
they arent meant to win
Is there a reason for 3 pics of Nami's boobs?
i think we just have very opposite tastes when it comes to how we want this to progress lol
and thats different now why?
natural enemies
Dolf I just have no idea
what your idea for this could be
like, whats the alternatives here
reading the text explains it I think
im honestly fine with it being resolved by imu running out of time and forced back
yeah thats dogshit though
also, look at nami's face in the last one
one man's dogshit is another man's peak
after learning about the VC things from Vegapunk in his message, Dragon and co will go to Elbaph to study the Ohara books. I think they also must know that Kuma is there I feel.
Gunko is probably a fine enough deus ex machina over the revos imo
unfortunately i feel the same way about dragon showing up to save the day
This is a well constructed hypothetical. If this happens towards the end after we've gotten the lore dump and all, then I'm fine with it
I just don't it to get in the way of what's going on now
Kuma tracker 
Same
but if it just happens out of nowhere, thats ridiculous. There's no way the arc can just end with Imu being magically poofed out of Elbaf at just the right moment in time.
this is also a good picture to compare the scans
I'm going to assume, by anime rules, there's a way to cut the middle part (sun realm) out of the tree and let the top layer collapse on top of it. Either that, to sink the bottom of the tree so that the Underword is now underwater, the sun realm is now the underworld and the Heaven realm is now the new sun realm, letting the waters of the ocean put out the fire
So you need periodic reminders that the clock is winding down for Imu before he has to bounce out is what you're saying
Same
I honestly don’t see what’s wrong with it
Like it can't just get dropped where Imu just starts clutching their heart right before they finish off the SHs and then they're forced back?
It’s a perfect way for him to “lose”
Also I forgot to respond to this, but its a general question to all, even if Imu does leave after winning, why arent the HKs cleaning up after him? why will they leave?
It needs some set-up
same, I wouldn’t call that “dogshit”
it lets imu still beat everyone here while not explicitly losing either
If so, this is reasonable.
true
we already had emeth saving the day with a nuke, and we might be saved by the revos during elbaf
idk man but if we are gonna have a deus ex machine for every arc during the final saga, thats kinda lame
They’ll be dead Johnny
so i kinda agree with dolfius
Luffy and Loki holding off Imu going to extreme-diff and almost losing anyways until the time limit is over isn't bad either for me
Because Luffy's now an adult, his own man. He's responsible for his own crew, he doesn't need his dad looking after him. Before Luffy was a kid and couldn't yet fully protect himself so Dragon would watch over him when he could. He only was very careful to keep their relationship secret. He no longer does after marineford because he trusts Luffy can look after himself now
This is the arc where we kill immortals
Yes and I think it would be better if the crew figures this out and actively tries to run out the clock against him, it cannot be portrayed as a convenient random moment that just happened to save their lives.
well i think the knights might just panic and retreat if they realize imu left and its just them now
(mostly because i dont want sommers to die)
I see, that sounds very crazy tho I’m ngl. How is this happening? Ancient weapon? or Imu?
He’s dying, and it’ll be ok. You’ll forget about him.
Im saying, why would he not trust Luffy with Elbaf now?
Yeah this is very good
The powers of AI in different amounts
This is my preferred way for it to go down lol
we already saw him coughing blood
Yeah, so that's the start of it
Why do you guys act like this doesn’t happen all the time
never?
I’m pretty sure some form of this has happened in every single arc
not at all
Like Shanks arriving right on time to stop Akainu?
yeah that is good
Blob Luffy looks best I guess in the first one
People have perfect timing because it builds hype and suspense
loki can realize imu is trying to rush things and figures out he can just stall (combined with imu looking worse as time goes on)
you think Imu is the exposing his own weakness type of villain?
And we know Imu’s body is in some way affected by leaving heaven
not intentionally
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thank you for reminding me this song exists
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What happened to your incomprehensible name
Imu running out of time just before killing a relevant character is on my bingo card
well, you do know that the Revos coming to Elbaph and saving them also sounds convenient and random right?
yeah we do, the difference is that its not a satisfying conclusion here
I grew tired of it
i think the theory i read that Imu HAD to act to save his god knights. cause haralds death weakened him already, three deaths would probably do much worse to him.
I think that’s just you Arsal
thats pretty likely
I explained why its not random
Sandal
didnt you say dragon would arrive by coincidence
Why would they? If your boss is done and he says for you to clear out we're done here, you have no more reason to be there. If you remember they didn't want to have to stay long anyway. What would they even be cleaning up? They have no responsibility to clean up after themselves. I'm practically sure that if Imu goes, so do they.
he would be coming for a purpose
that's why he wanted to revenge harald
the coincidence would be saving Luffy's life while he is at it, like Loguetown.
wouldnt that feel like the same thing
Arsal you’re trying to come up with too many explanations why it doesn’t work when you really just don’t like it and that’s ok
suddenly dragon shows up one chapter to save luffy
He would. I'm not in the Dragon is coming to Elbaph camp. The only time Dragon would come is if it was incredibly dire and the situation was put right in front of him. Let's say a Marineford but Luffy was the one to be executed instead, something like that
I have an issue with it playing a role randomly, if it only exists to poof out Imu at just the right moment, thats unsatisfactory
theres another way to go about it
well yeah obviously imu wont just vanish without any explanation or build up just at the right moment
ideally there'd be building tension for imu to wrap things up fast as people stall him out
No, I think Loki might have to do it, as well as the other warriors. I think the fire is going to get out of control. Either that, Imu does something
Why would he say that? If Imu has fulfilled 90% of the job lets say, will he not expect the knights to easily do the 10% atleast?
again, we immediately saw him coughing blood when he arrived
I feel like you were denying it last week
Hks dying can add up to the toll
Well, the question is this a lasting weakness or only one for the moment. Like he's not constantly hacking up blood. Was it simply from travel and transforming? Also is the problem going to be for him or for the holy land if he stays away?
kinda funny that bc of the username it sounds like you are swearing 
I was, then Imu looked into the camera and said ''I have a time limit''
One of my theories is that Imu's presence is the only thing keeping the Hellfire serpent in line. So he has to stay there at all times to do so. When he leaves it's basically a clock counting down until full chaos.
but yeah, its how the time limit is used that matters
I think it will be fine if they actively try to run down the clock, instead of just unintentionally doing it for example
Why would he not just do the whole 100%? He's here, he might as well do the full job, why do you think he would leave the job half done?
That doesn’t really align with the “he suffers damage from leaving red line” thing
No one actually states that he does, that's more our interpretation of what we see
We're assuming because he spit up blood that he suffers damage from leaving, but it could be from many other things. Like he hasn't done this in a long time or that transforming after so long hurts a lot
I genuinely thought he was lol
I think it’s a permanent weakness
As in it permanently affects him
I think some of it does. I kinda talked here about what happens to the tree #also-manga message
If Imu was willing to leave the sacred land and come down, especially if there's a health risk involved, I'd expect him to complete it himself yeah
This panel is kinda heartwarming @trim lily lowkey
He will obviously still delegate certain things to his subordinates. But at the very least he'll take care of the Loki and Luffy situation himself. He won't leave that to anyone else
It would be kinda cute if Imu doesn’t treat his subordinates badly
what does this accomplish though
He's got those courtly manners about him it seems
Hard to say... I feel like if its permanent, we'll see evidence of it as he continues
He has no love for them but he seems like he doesn't talk down to them really unless they just absolutely fuck up
@dense rapids
Imu did murder Saturn pretty bad
But he seems forgiving
Maybe Sommers will tell him the ship is his fault
Sommers is absolutely right
killingham is so happy to see his boss
when you think about it, he did said he came to Elbaph to avenge Harald’s death. “He was my servant”
I don't think imu's gonna mind that
Yeah Imu’s still really sore about Joyboy/Lili/Davey stuff but I think he’s chill otherwise
He's willing to tolerate some failure
It's not total so
If Joyboy wasn’t involved I think he’d a let Saturn live
He'll let some shit slide
Hmm yeah
This is kinda cute lol
I thought they’d be a little more scared, they were kinda last chapter but not so much now
Honestly if it weren’t for that fuckass Joyboy Haki knot. Imu wouldn’t have even worried about Saturn not getting Luffy
I didn’t notice he was crying of happiness lol
also i forgot this chapter confirms the long hair is gunko's and not cause of imu
i guess she really did just have it all tucked into her hat lol
Wait huh
Uh it probably just stays like that
Perhaps Imu is intending to just kill all the giants in a sort of "if I can't have you, no one will" measure. I think it will also depend on what makes Imu leave. Like say if Vivi comes, he might place her importance above even the giants and basically just leave Elbaph to be destroyed. If he leaves because of timelimit, I think he does something to at least give him a partial victory. I think it depends on what Sommers and perhaps Killingham are being sent off to do.
It's the rules of anime girl hair
I think people are forgetting that the main goal of the WG here is to get the giants on their side
however necessary
Imu could technically Domi Reversi Gerd & Stansen, but that would be pointless
maybe it didn’t shrunk because she’s frozen?
He already reversed her fingers.
she had her long hair back in GV too
If only she knew armament this wouldn’t have happened
It stayed even before that. She was held in midair as Imu was trying to DR Loki and Luffy
kill chopper then DR the strongest around without fruits
I assume it just stays like that after possesion because why wouldn't it
It’s also a pretty big contrast from the Blackbeard pirates who are scared of Teach
face mask nami
Lmao
Maybe Imu did that to her and it’s irreversible
I mean you’re absolutely right
But could you imagine
Imu possessing you permanently alters you
yeah but there was a possibility she like cut her hair
Gunko with pants my beloved
It would have happened regardless. Armament didn't save Zoro's head and shoulder
This would be a really cool inclusion
Why are we assuming she didn't
Oh wrong message
This would be a really cool inclusion
Idk, Imu growing her hair makes sense to me
Damn I didn’t know he lost his head & shoulder. Rip Zoro
though imu possessed saturn and he was fine after
It was until mu got to know nidhoggr and nika are here, imu's centre of attention is now completely away from this
He is their god after all
she seemingly did
indeed, it is very sad 😔
It was under the hat
its not like it just burst out of her hat here
That makes no sense
it actively grew
It definitely grew out
it’s all weird
Eh it does kinda look like it burst out her hat
Od didn't have time to draw it, Toei will show it
Why didn’t Saturn get luscious locs
Because he's an old stinky man
her hair prior to it always looked like a pixie cut sort of deal
I think Saturn is well groomed
everyone with a convenant is, actually
he puts a lot of effort into braiding his hair
or curling it
oh that’s true
gotcha
i think like here for example... to me the regen would just make her hair grow back wherever possible, i dont think it would regen & then be like "oh right sorry Gunko you had it tucked up inside, lemme do that too"
Though back to the other thing I’m kinda curious why the Blackbeard pirates are so scared of Blackbeard he seems like a chill boss
He doesn’t really get that mad often on screen
it goes both ways i think
He bullied poor Pizarro
they love him as a leader but they also fear him
he’s probably good to them but they also know what he’s capable of
tbh the mentality of "we're not friends, we just have equal goals" probably scares enough people to just follow & comply, he's essentially saying "i'll abandon/kill you on a whim if need be"
he’s unhinged
exactly
this too
they probably don’t trust him 100%
you dont see luffy putting hands on the SH if they mess something up
most of them joined him after killing everyone in their cells
thats only a few on the main crew
only the level 6 inmates
distrust goes both ways in bb crew
Pretty much
the rest came to hachinosu on their own probably
yeah like Don Krieg
I mean we dont know how the original members joined
who can say it wasnt a similar deal
i kinda wish that BB has essentially had his OG crew mates for a long time
met/gathered them during his travels with WB
and just had them waiting for when he got the fruit & could act on his plan

anime rules
I mean, you could ask why do their clothes regen too?
Luffy can get a little scary sometimes
He should talk to Usopp like this
He wasn't rude
Don’t let Nami get ahold of that staff
He was encouraging
he seemed more disappointed if anything
Is my oc noticeable headahhh
Viz does make him sound a lot ruder than he actually is
Luffy: DON'T PANIC!!
Nami: But...!! But!!
Luffy: CREWMEMBERS OF THE FUTURE PIRATE KING...
SHOULDN'T PUT ON PATHETIC FACES LIKE THAT!!!
is closer to what he actually says
people gonna be like BB is only tough on the level 6 criminals, here is why he is actually a good person
I think that’s what he said in the anime
How do you know this? Is this panel controversial or something
you think Nami is afraid of Luffy? She is beating him up and scolding him constantly lol
That someone would need to present an actual translation
No lol
I know this because I was looking for a different translation of another line the other day
If anything almost everyone on the crew is scared of Nami 😭
this arc really is unpredictable
Jinbe got the memo from jump 
where's this energy on Usopp smh
this line
only Robin isn't, everyone else does fear her
I wasn’t expecting most of the shit that’s going down rn
king of the py rats
this was what I was looking for and I saw that line too lol
yeah, Enel doesnt know about pirates
Enel is way too good for this arc 
thats what I was trying to confirm
Enel is returning soon
Wtf Stephen called him Ener?
he was lecturing ganfal about gold but Ig thats where his knowledge stops lol
yeah
i guess enel never took the chance to talk with any intruders
Thought it was either Eneru or Enel
the evil third option


killingham's weapon has 3 blades on it