#also-manga

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ashen perch
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he never died

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just catch up

jade rain
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It makes more sense for the burn scar man to be from the Roger era

knotty tree
ashen perch
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yeah well youre not getting a rundown of things here

azure wasp
ashen perch
azure wasp
vernal ravine
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a few things only you don't miss much AkainuSweat

ashen perch
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the burn scar is just the biggest gatekeeper of the One Piece, he's holding the final piece in the puzzle

muted hedge
wraith mantle
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does imu's reveal showing up before burnscar mean burnscar is even bigger of a shock?

muted hedge
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no

wraith mantle
muted hedge
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from?

jade rain
# ashen perch I dont think it has to be

It doesn't have to be but logically he would be, there was no burn scar man in Roger's era, so it more possible for him to be from Roger's era or crew who is gatekeeping the final key to give it to the right person

hot cairn
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catch up

wraith mantle
hot cairn
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why do people ask for arc summaries in here

muted hedge
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but reversed

graceful belfry
dark nymph
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woke readers

muted hedge
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ukabas

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get it?

wraith mantle
knotty tree
graceful pasture
blazing depot
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I no Lunarian papi I’m demon

graceful belfry
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I mean, the theories about it being a former Roger pirate do make sense. It would just be sort of lame

graceful pasture
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is flame man a burn scar victim or do yall think he will have flame markings on him

knotty tree
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👍

ashen perch
knotty root
dark nymph
ashen perch
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like for example, and just an example

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if Davy was cursed to stay at Lodestar

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maybe Roger freed him somehow

muted hedge
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just let it be a completely new character

graceful belfry
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I don’t think he has to have learned of the significance of the poneglyphs after Roger did

muted hedge
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have it be the previous emperor before Shanks or something

ashen perch
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thats so boring

muted hedge
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it's not

knotty root
ashen perch
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it really is, and it doesnt make any sense

knotty root
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It's not impossible that they were just 3 emperors before

muted hedge
vernal ravine
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we are hinokizu

ashen perch
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This guy isnt trying to find the One Piece, he's only keeping one piece of it, he's preventing others from getting the final piece of the puzzle

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a pirate from the modern era would surely have the motive of finding the OP, this guy doesnt lol

wraith mantle
muted hedge
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Shiryu speculated that it could be someone from the World Government

cold steppe
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I hope he's full on doesn't want the one piece found, and not waiting for the chosen one or something

wraith mantle
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doesnt mbbf have navy connections?

ashen perch
knotty root
muted hedge
leaden rivet
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Surprisingly I lowkey like Arsal’s idea about the revos coming

cold steppe
scenic dirge
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We feeling like the “burns” from the burn scar man came from something Omen related?

glacial bear
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Could be

ashen perch
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Why wouldnt he? that would make him an accomplice of the WG and we have enough of those

knotty root
muted hedge
wraith mantle
ashen perch
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it wasnt a rumor

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it was speculation

muted hedge
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Davy Jones being alive for so fucking long and not doing shit would make no sense

ashen perch
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he's cursed

muted hedge
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at that point bring back Joyboy too

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haki ghost

ashen perch
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that makes perfect sense, he was cursed

muted hedge
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absolutely hate it

wraith mantle
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mbbf is a maki manifestation

muted hedge
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Davy Jones should be dead

ashen perch
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youre opposed to an idea based off just nothing

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Davy Jones was never even said to be dead 😭

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CURSED TO LIVE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA
LIVE
L I V E

wraith mantle
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joyboy, davy, imu, and lily are all still alive

muted hedge
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another word of saying he drowned

knotty root
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Davy Jones perhaps was the king of the ancient kingdom

muted hedge
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but sure go off

leaden rivet
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Well you don’t really need a reason to dislike something or to like it

haughty saddle
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That is literally his namesake curse as well lol

graceful belfry
knotty root
haughty saddle
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That’s like, literally what Davy Jones is

unkempt sable
frigid gulch
ashen perch
ashen perch
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theres a devil in the story

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and he's all powerful so far

leaden rivet
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I can’t explain it

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It’s just wrong

knotty root
frigid gulch
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Maybe you’re jealous

ashen perch
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I am sure this devil is capable of cursing Davy, just as the story claims

wraith mantle
leaden rivet
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My hair was to my shoulders a year or 2 ago 😔

vernal ravine
urban lodge
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Davy Jones, Zombie Rocks and BB team up against Imu

leaden rivet
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Way to hit it where it hurts king

ashen perch
ashen perch
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Davy will hate BB

frigid gulch
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I just took a guess CharlossDurr

ashen perch
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Davy will LOVE Luffy

unkempt sable
frigid gulch
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Rocks on steroids

ashen perch
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thats gonna be the whole idea, Burn Scar is looking for the man worthy of the final poneglyph, worthy of the One Piece

frigid gulch
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Wow

glacial bear
leaden rivet
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Why does everyone assume Davey and rocks would hate Bb?

muted hedge
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why does it always have to be fucking Davy

ashen perch
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we know Joyboy died

muted hedge
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this whole Davy clan shit is so stupid i am sorry

ashen perch
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!?

leaden rivet
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Like the only thing rocks may dislike is that he killed his crew

ashen perch
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just hating to hate

unkempt sable
cold steppe
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It makes sense tbh

frigid gulch
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BB creates clones of darkness in the form of his predecessors

muted hedge
leaden rivet
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Wow ukabas is sabaku

urban lodge
frigid gulch
ashen perch
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maybe Imu just wanted Davy to suffer? maybe he was a fishman or a fish fruit user so he was able to survive underwater?

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there's a lot to it, that we dont know anyways

unkempt sable
muted hedge
frigid gulch
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Well with Imu cutting up BB’s poster and last chapter, it seemed planned for god knows how long

ashen perch
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the Live Action? theres no date yet so I cant help you with that

glacial bear
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Apparently official colors?

knotty root
frigid gulch
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Oda just introduced it though

unkempt sable
ashen perch
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please

muted hedge
glacial bear
unkempt sable
wraith mantle
frigid gulch
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Garling’s shirt is so shite

glacial bear
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WARCH OUT ITS THE ROGRR PIRATES

fast pagoda
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I honestly do like the theory hody jones is related to the davy clan

urban lodge
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No shot it's official

frigid gulch
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The whole thing really

brittle basin
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I like Maffey's teal on purple

urban epoch
brittle basin
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Garling still looks like a tool though.

glacial bear
urban lodge
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Last I checked the colored volumes were at the start of Egghead

urban epoch
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Colours look stunning though

fast pagoda
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Where are yall getting these colored panels

muted hedge
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i posted these before, they are official colorings by a fan

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they're not "official" colorings

urban lodge
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We don't know

ashen perch
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that makes sense

frigid gulch
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They don’t look sharp enough to be official

brittle basin
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if they're by a fan, they are by definition not official

frigid gulch
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In some spots

glacial bear
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Look at this SAUCE

cold steppe
urban epoch
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Official colour scheme of Sommers though is drool

frigid gulch
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This one didn’t feel right

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Idk

knotty root
unkempt sable
frigid gulch
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BB is like that too pretty sure

urban lodge
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Look at volume 105

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Oda always draws them white as fuck

muted hedge
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so strange

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why does Oda do that

knotty root
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I think I js have alzheimers

fast pagoda
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The color manga needs to speed tf up btw

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They so slow

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They still in Egghead volume 2

unkempt sable
muted hedge
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why are they so slow?

brittle basin
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Why does Rocks have jaundice?

glacial bear
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@dense rapids

unkempt sable
knotty root
muted hedge
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that's why

brittle basin
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He's rockin' that pink. Look at him go!

muted hedge
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he looks so puntable

unkempt sable
brittle basin
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He is, he's an insane enabler.

rose rune
fast pagoda
muted hedge
cunning narwhal
urban lodge
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There's one cover where even King looks whiter than Zoro

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Oda doesn't give a fuck

urban epoch
fast pagoda
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Oda when you ask him to draw multiple skin colors

prisma yacht
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Why did god create mosquitos

fast pagoda
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Oda when you ask him to design a character without a furry belt, a feather jacket, or wearing a coat without the sleeves

glacial bear
soft tangle
glacial bear
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I hate mosquitoes

prisma yacht
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Moths are fine

urban lodge
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Wtf moths are harmless

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Leave them alone

soft tangle
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Let them eat your clothes

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Say that then

graceful pasture
prisma yacht
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Fuck mosquitos tho

wraith mantle
urban lodge
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That's one specific species, or genus

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Don't blame all moths smh

prisma yacht
soft tangle
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Yes

fast pagoda
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Its just funny

prisma yacht
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Why did you give them ur clothes to feed on then

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Clearly ur mistake

soft tangle
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Yeah

prisma yacht
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Smh

graceful pasture
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i didnt know fronsen was a moth lawyer

prisma yacht
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Its as penny said

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They're harmless

knotty root
soft tangle
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Let them in your homes

urban lodge
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They're also beautiful

soft tangle
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Those ugly dust winged bugs

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Leaving larva on walls

urban epoch
ashen perch
urban epoch
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It's like a kid drew them

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They come in basically every and any colour

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Almost unnatural

urban lodge
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Fluff bugs

graceful pasture
prisma yacht
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Oda fumbled big by not adding gil

graceful pasture
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i think i have a vague memory of the x sunglasses guy but thats it

urban lodge
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Oda fumbled by making it Rocks pirates centric

fast pagoda
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or live in Springfield

urban lodge
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It should have had Roger and Garp

prisma yacht
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It had to be done

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He's gunko's father afterall

knotty root
prisma yacht
urban lodge
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She's probably older than him

prisma yacht
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We don't know that

wanton sundial
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we know that

prisma yacht
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We don't

urban lodge
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She's at least in her 70s

sweet anvil
fast pagoda
wanton sundial
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who is know and that is why we is

prisma yacht
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Rocks had a kid in his late teens

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Then

cunning narwhal
wraith mantle
fast pagoda
prisma yacht
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Gunko was barely 20-25 in gv tho

stone terrace
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ida is a bum why would she be on the cover

sweet anvil
urban lodge
sweet anvil
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If I had to guess

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Gunko was at least 40 in GV

prisma yacht
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Wait what

urban lodge
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It was 56 years ago

graceful belfry
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She got the Gorosei treatment

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She knew Brook so long ago

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I did the math once

knotty root
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Hope we get a panel request that includes Harold, would love to see more artwork of him

sweet anvil
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Wait nvm

prisma yacht
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Hm ok

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I was so confused for a sec

sweet anvil
fast pagoda
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I think its too early to assume

prisma yacht
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We don't know rocks age tho

knotty root
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I'm guessing he's somewhere in his 40s or 50s

prisma yacht
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During the flower room incident

knotty root
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Ah that's what you meant

urban lodge
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It's particularly hard to tell because he's ugly as shit

prisma yacht
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Good for me tho

urban lodge
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And he doesn't age at all during the flashback

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Basically only Harald does

prisma yacht
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Also theres a reason why we didn't see rocks mom in gv

knotty root
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Harold didn't grow back his hair after he shaved it. He was gonna bald anyways

prisma yacht
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She is probably from where rocks was the king and he inherited the throne from her

distant vine
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Still reeling that he broke the Gates of Justice

prisma yacht
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Luffy can do that

knotty root
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Yeah ofc he can enlarge him self

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But rocks is petite compared to bajrang gun

urban lodge
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A lot of people can do that

knotty root
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That impressed me more then him killing an Admiral

prisma yacht
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Oh yeah it was cool

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We were meant to see him as an unstoppable force

knotty root
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Harold jumping off the red line "casually" was also insane.

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We don't hsve a confirmed height of that yeah?

prisma yacht
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I dont think so

urban lodge
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We don't

stone terrace
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after a certain point it doesnt really matter

prisma yacht
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These feats are marvels of oda's world building lol

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I can't help but appreciate it

near crater
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any chance that Ray is coming to Elpaf to "save" them?

prisma yacht
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No

stone terrace
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last time we saw him he was in a puddle of his own tears with booze in his hand

prisma yacht
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When was that

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Oh yeah after saving boa

copper lava
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I'll have to rewatch the scene but I think I remember the vice admirals at least being left

urban lodge
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They were KO'd too

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Just not immediately

lofty fern
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Anyone thinking Gaban could die here?

prisma yacht
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Yes

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I want him to die

lofty fern
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I keep thinking why is he just sitting over by himself doing nothing. What's his purpose?

prisma yacht
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..

hot cairn
stone terrace
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thats a red herring

urban lodge
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What if Elbaf isn't intact

lofty fern
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Then again, he kinda already had a death scene...and so did Ripley....so not sure

prisma yacht
hot cairn
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Illya is wrong

prisma yacht
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There are many such cases like this

lofty fern
# hot cairn he has plot armor

I have a feeling it's not going to be intact. The Heaven realm needs to come into play and we've seen a lot of fire on a tree that's supposedly especially allergic to fire.

urban lodge
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The tree is gonna burn down and the arc will end with a new one being planted

prisma yacht
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Loki the gardener

lofty fern
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It would be funny that with Killy up again, the first thing he does is crush the Library and School

prisma yacht
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I want him to chop up jimbei

lofty fern
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He won't but he probably will get a bit of retribution

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Probably kick him and Sanji while they're down or something

hot cairn
lofty fern
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Sure, though Imu probably has orders for him right now

rose rune
hot cairn
lofty fern
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Gerd and Sanji both got their comeuppance

rose rune
lofty fern
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Sommers had a problem with Gerd, not Zoro

warm sierra
prisma yacht
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Gerd herd about to go down

lofty fern
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He also left the place where Zoro was too, I think Imu destroying Gerd was enough for him

warm sierra
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He doesnt care about Zoro but Zoro will care about stopping him probably

lofty fern
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If I was Zoro, my mind would be on Imu, not Sommers

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Imu is the obvious threat

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Sommers is clearly a lackey

prisma yacht
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Wommers is more fun

warm sierra
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Well the SH can communicate

pine ridge
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I cant find a single panel of imu with more than 13 eyes in the omen ring. Idk if that has something to do with the covenant limit

lofty fern
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Thinking in the mind of Zoro or Sanji, both of them if they could get up, would regroup with Luffy to take Imu down

lofty fern
rose rune
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sommers has the weapon that most resembles a sword, meaning he will fight zoro

trim lily
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tssk killingham's weapon has 3 blades on it

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hes perfect for zoro

pine ridge
lofty fern
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Isn't it more of a club?

rose rune
prisma yacht
rose rune
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but it's more sword like than the trident

prisma yacht
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Its very woobly

rose rune
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no bones

prisma yacht
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Gerd

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Looking at that finger

cold steppe
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Oda is going back on that. Tho I would be very impressed if he keeps them as lasting injuries

warm sierra
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Gore Piece is crazy rn

dark nymph
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I need to see heads flying

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Jarul specifically

rose rune
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I still think it's funny that Gerd went back to pick up sommers after Imu arrived

prisma yacht
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A cute toy

rose rune
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she was running with this fainting child when Imu arrived, and ran back to play with sommers again

prisma yacht
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Whom shld I vote for today

rose rune
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Vander Decken

pine ridge
prisma yacht
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You clearly have priorities

prisma yacht
rose rune
prisma yacht
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So are you willingly giving me a hateful character

rose rune
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yes

urban lodge
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Vote Buggy

prisma yacht
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Biblu is his pet name smh

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Its biblo

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Why do you make me say it

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Don't do this again pls

rose rune
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wait. how do you spell it?

urban lodge
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Bilbo

prisma yacht
pine ridge
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bible I think

pulsar timber
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Vote imu if you don’t want to be nuked

prisma yacht
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I have already voted for him

prisma yacht
rose rune
lofty fern
rose rune
prisma yacht
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Sassy

pine ridge
rose rune
prisma yacht
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Thigh

rose rune
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that's me

pine ridge
prisma yacht
rose rune
rose rune
prisma yacht
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🦉

warm sierra
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19 eyes for the other 19 kings

pine ridge
prisma yacht
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Technically these votes still count

rose rune
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this is kinda crazy. ngl

prisma yacht
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And it's not cheating

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Hehehehe

pine ridge
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cause imu definitely has some kind of soul harvesting ability

urban lodge
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This fits him so well

prisma yacht
rose rune
prisma yacht
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There's a special link

rose rune
urban lodge
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It's funny because I think you're supposed to go to a physical location and scan a qr code but the qr code just sends you to that link, so you can just bypass it

prisma yacht
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What fr?😭

rose rune
urban lodge
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I think so

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It's called wt100 spot

prisma yacht
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Is this the same

urban lodge
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Yeah I think

prisma yacht
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Idk if hype kage is reliable tho

glacial bear
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Yesss

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I got a SILVER RAKI TOO

prisma yacht
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Coolll

wet condor
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I can't believe I remember her name tbh

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Laki is what she went by in the Funi dub

fast pagoda
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Laki

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Raki

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Haki

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Maki

mighty shell
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baki

urban lodge
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Goda foreshadowing

pulsar path
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Imu is just shednija

rare mango
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yo guys

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where can i read manga

fast pagoda
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Chicken Jaki

ashen perch
rare mango
lofty fern
ashen perch
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wdym?

rare mango
pine ridge
ashen perch
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you wont get the previous on cubari

ashen perch
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just go to that site that I told you about, you'll get all the chapters

fast pagoda
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Cubari is like imgur basically

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If you want an actual library go to weebcentral

ashen perch
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anyways, I just saw this, the arc is basically guaranteed to be the 3rd longest atp now

ashen perch
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eh not really

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its not ending in 23, thats just not happening

trim lily
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the introduction of luffy and one of his final antagonists

fast pagoda
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I give Elbaph 10 more chapters

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10-15

warm sierra
prisma yacht
ashen perch
trim lily
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i think 80 is a fair estimate for an upper end

ashen perch
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lower

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but yeah

trim lily
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nuh uh most arcs end before 80

warm sierra
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multiple flashbacks, multiple fights, payoff

prisma yacht
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1192 is the 67th chapter of this arc right

ashen perch
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most arcs were not Elbaf

trim lily
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thats true

prisma yacht
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Someone confirm this

fast pagoda
trim lily
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it all hinges on the heaven realm being real basically

prisma yacht
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Its very real.

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Biblu is waiting for us

ashen perch
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Heaven Realm is real but even if I minus it, the arc is still 80 chapters

trim lily
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i think the fighting can go on for like 4-8 more chaps if we consider imu, gunko, sommers and killingham all seperately, maybe throw in a flashback

fast pagoda
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I honestly have given up trying to predict things this arc

trim lily
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its a fool's errand

rose rune
ashen perch
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my most conservative estimate for the arc still includes

  • a fairly long fighting section here, I am thinking 15-20 chapters easily
  • flashbacks, Gunko/Brook, Loki II, Jarul(yes) - thats like 10 chapters on its own
  • cutaways - also 10 chapters
  • post arc + heaven realm - 20 chapters
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thats 50-55 total

warm sierra
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I dont think the time limit allows for fighting for that long imo

ashen perch
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I mean

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you remember Onigashima?

warm sierra
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barely

ashen perch
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yeah so we were on a time limit there too

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15 minutes were 30 chapters

prisma yacht
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Minimum 16 chapters more

fast pagoda
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Remember Onigashima was the climax of a whole saga

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This is not

warm sierra
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less pressure on Oda to finish the series back then, Wano was sunk cost fallacy

ashen perch
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well yes, but this is still a major arc just like any of the other major arcs, where we have had climaxes that lasted even longer than that

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Alabasta, Skypiea, Water 7, Thriller Bark, Dressrosa, Wano

warm sierra
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just feels like this arc is moving at a much faster pace, almost like Oda threw in legoland as a little treat bc he knew shit would hit the fan immediately

ashen perch
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even Punk Hazard and Egghead's climaxes did last 20 chapters

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I think this arc isnt as fast as Egghead

prisma yacht
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Only u think that btw

ashen perch
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I dont mind

prisma yacht
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Well anyway 20chaps more yeah

warm sierra
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we are pretty much already past the murder mystery part of Elbaf and are at the planetfall point and we have LESS chapters than egghead rn and you can then also subtract the long ass flashback from that

dark nymph
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how many chaps we on

ashen perch
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well, I was thinking of 1086 to the end as the climax, excluding the flashback

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55

dark nymph
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25 more then

ashen perch
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thats reasonable

ashen perch
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the only way this happens is if the WG just runs through their opponents

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which is fine, it can happen for sure

trim lily
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i think we tend to overestimate how long fights usually are

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especially in a case like this with imu

fast pagoda
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Wait Arsal do you think there will be 55 more chapters

ashen perch
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I think you guys are underestimating it because we havent had real fights since Onigashima

prisma yacht
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We are on 55th chapter right

trim lily
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yeah

fast pagoda
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Zoro vs Lucci was a real fight

prisma yacht
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That means 1192 is the 67th chapter

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Lesgo

ashen perch
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thats an insult to real fights

warm sierra
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I dont really see anything suggesting Elbaf will have real fights tbh

dark nymph
fast pagoda
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Egghead having no real fights was my main problem with the arc though

trim lily
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luffy vs kizaru was a fight

fast pagoda
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I wanted Luffy vs Saturn and Kizaru

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Not the chaseslop we got

trim lily
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granted not an exclusive 1v1

fast pagoda
ashen perch
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Luffy v Kizaru was a quick altercation

fast pagoda
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I want to post my dumb egghead rewrite some day

trim lily
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wasnt king vs zoro like 2-3 chaps in the manga

ashen perch
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3+

prisma yacht
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Sommers is stronger than king

trim lily
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in actual content or spread out over 3 with cutting to other stuff in the first two

ashen perch
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someone did a page count

warm sierra
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Omen gotta be terrible for the powerscaler community

trim lily
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what about it

ocean totem
warm sierra
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people just gonna apply it retroactively

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Is Omen Kuro stronger than G5 Luffy

ashen perch
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yeah I am looking at it now, Zoro v King was 54 pages according to it and I believe its cutting the fluff

trim lily
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oh so 3 chaps

ashen perch
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the running around, the setup, buildup, etc

trim lily
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my estimate still holds then

ashen perch
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well chapters are 16 pages

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so I was right

prisma yacht
ashen perch
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3+...

trim lily
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16-18

ashen perch
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the 17th page isnt a real page

fast pagoda
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Luffy vs Kizaru was a bottom 5 fight in the series

ashen perch
#

its a cover page

trim lily
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even if you use 16 its still 3.4 chaps lol

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we round down in this house

ashen perch
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which would be 3+!

fast pagoda
ashen perch
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Sanji v Queen is exactly 48 pages fwiw

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so thats 3 chapters atleast

trim lily
warm sierra
ashen perch
trim lily
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unless..

lofty fern
rustic coral
ashen perch
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yea 55

lofty fern
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So I'm giving it 20 more

rustic coral
lofty fern
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That would make it 4th

rustic coral
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O

ashen perch
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its on the image fed

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the arc is 55 chapters long now

rustic coral
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Its not lasting more than wci

ashen perch
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it easily will

rustic coral
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Cap

lofty fern
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Nah,

rustic coral
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What is even gonna happen

lofty fern
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Don't ask

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You'll get tales of the Revs and Shanks and all sorts of other things

ashen perch
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nothing here is indicating that the arc is actually ending soon, I am not sure whats making people so confident in that

rustic hamlet
stone tulip
ashen perch
stone tulip
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Never underestimate Oda when it comes chapter count

prisma yacht
dark nymph
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Well Imu is packing everyone fast, and Oda in general seems to be on a faster pace since egghead, if Oda suddenly decides to switch back to Onigashima tier pacing then yeah this aint going for 80 its going for 100

urban lodge
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Oda is an expert at making time limits last forever

upbeat yarrow
lofty fern
ashen perch
stone tulip
rustic hamlet
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Imu gonna cut Loki into pieces

ashen perch
#

we're at the beginning of the climax at best

rustic coral
trim lily
ashen perch
stone tulip
ashen perch
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@rustic hamlet no other-series please

lofty fern
rustic hamlet
ashen perch
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we have a spoilers rules, check #rules and #codex for more information

distant vine
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Itll hurt Oda's feelings if people talk about other series in the OP server as well

rustic hamlet
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Imu gonna capture luffy and we have marineform 2.0

lofty fern
ashen perch
#

the editor still hasnt actually claimed that we're in the climax

lofty fern
#

The editor isn't really a good measure

hearty shore
ashen perch
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from chapter to chapter? yes

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but an editor is able to tell that an arc is in its climax lol

distant vine
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The moment I saw Imu prep for Round 2 I knew it wasnt over yeah

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We're gonna have Luffy stall

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and then he'll get back in

dark nymph
#

the editor jebaited yall in Wano

stone tulip
upbeat yarrow
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imu captures luffy and usopp becomes the captain temporally

ashen perch
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Egghead's climax was said to begin when Kizaru went down and Saturn arrived, the editor was right on that

lofty fern
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If you think so, I go more by the set up and story structure of the arc itself

upbeat yarrow
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this is it, this is how usopp fans will bounce back

rose rune
ashen perch
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yeah 1s

rose rune
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tyty

lofty fern
ashen perch
unkempt sable
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So what’s the likelihood of Bonney giving people their own imitations of g5

lofty fern
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I think Imu is going to try to get the most done in the small amount of time he has. He's being extremely efficient and not wasting his time. I also don't feel like this is going to end in a win either for the SHs

warm sierra
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if anything Luffy has to be the buffer

lofty fern
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I can't see her doing anything right now, Oda has held her back to basically background

ashen perch
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I dont disagree, but you dismissed my Revos idea Irene, whats your escape plan here

unkempt sable
ashen perch
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what is saving the crew from certain death

dark nymph
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How would the revs know tho

ashen perch
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coincidence

trim lily
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how would they get here too

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theyre on the other side of the red line

ashen perch
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they will be coming anyways

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thats the idea

stone tulip
ashen perch
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its like Loguetown, Dragon did not have to know that Buggy was going to try to execute Luffy

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He did know about Smoker I guess, but he didnt know that Luffy would be nearly arrested by him either ofc

trim lily
#

well he knew luffy would likely go there

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id assume

ashen perch
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well yeah that is why he went there

warm sierra
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that just opens a can of worms on why was dragon not there every time Luffy was in mortal danger tbh, like Marineford

stone terrace
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if he knew smoker he prob knew smoker was a logia

ashen perch
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he went there for his son's sake

ashen perch
hot cairn
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the Revos coming to Elbaph is such a good move by Oda if he does it

warm sierra
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he must have known of his relationship with ace and his son demeanor, how is that less likely than luffy going to loguetown

ashen perch
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I explained it here, the idea is that the Revos are coming for reasons unrelated to the HKs and Imu being here.

lofty fern
# ashen perch I dont disagree, but you dismissed my Revos idea Irene, whats your escape plan h...

I think that Imu will take down Loki and Luffy and he will do something that will cause the tree the practically collapse. He will kill 1-2 people though I don't know who. He will then leave either because he is weakened or because Vivi comes or something and he wants to take her to Marijois. He and the knights leave, the knights have their own mission, not sure what but I assume that they are going to spend their time now doing that.
The SHs and everyone else will have to escape to Heaven Realm for safety and Loki even badly wounded along with the SHs and maybe Hajrudin will help hold the tree up until everyone can get to safety.
That's at least my current ideas.

trim lily
ashen perch
#

???

hot cairn
hot cairn
trim lily
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i dont want this arc to have more players join in

dark nymph
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I mean I like the idea, I just don't like the reasoning of it

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Dragon showing up would be hype icl

ashen perch
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its on everyone's route

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I think Dragon didnt know about any of the mortal dangers

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he went there to see off his son as he is going into the Grand Line

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thats all

hot cairn
rose rune
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I just did a side by side comparison with these three. I love how opscans made nami skinnier and a bishounen

ashen perch
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UNRELATED

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jesus

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its right there

ashen perch
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it wont have anything to do with the HKs or Imu

hot cairn
ashen perch
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Dragon will be coming for the reasons that I explained in my post

dark nymph
#

arsals is just fate piece, which is plausible tbh

ashen perch
#

read this smh

hot cairn
prisma yacht
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I agree with the dragon thingy

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Its fun

ashen perch
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Dolf I have no clue what is going to satisfy you

prisma yacht
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Also wld lead us to the name of the ancient kingdom

trim lily
prisma yacht
lofty fern
ashen perch
#

yeah

trim lily
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id rather they try to figure out how to win/survive here than an outside force come in to save the day or make things harder

ashen perch
#

they arent meant to win

lofty fern
trim lily
trim lily
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natural enemies

ashen perch
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Dolf I just have no idea

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what your idea for this could be

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like, whats the alternatives here

rose rune
trim lily
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im honestly fine with it being resolved by imu running out of time and forced back

ashen perch
#

yeah thats dogshit though

rose rune
trim lily
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one man's dogshit is another man's peak

hot cairn
# dark nymph what was your reason?

after learning about the VC things from Vegapunk in his message, Dragon and co will go to Elbaph to study the Ohara books. I think they also must know that Kuma is there I feel.

ashen perch
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its just so unbelievably boring

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Imu can run out of the clock, thats fine

warm sierra
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Gunko is probably a fine enough deus ex machina over the revos imo

trim lily
#

unfortunately i feel the same way about dragon showing up to save the day

wet condor
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This is a well constructed hypothetical. If this happens towards the end after we've gotten the lore dump and all, then I'm fine with it

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I just don't it to get in the way of what's going on now

ashen perch
rose rune
lofty fern
# hot cairn how are they going to the heaven realm of the tree falls

I'm going to assume, by anime rules, there's a way to cut the middle part (sun realm) out of the tree and let the top layer collapse on top of it. Either that, to sink the bottom of the tree so that the Underword is now underwater, the sun realm is now the underworld and the Heaven realm is now the new sun realm, letting the waters of the ocean put out the fire

wet condor
leaden rivet
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I honestly don’t see what’s wrong with it

wet condor
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Like it can't just get dropped where Imu just starts clutching their heart right before they finish off the SHs and then they're forced back?

leaden rivet
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It’s a perfect way for him to “lose”

ashen perch
wet condor
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It needs some set-up

hot cairn
trim lily
leaden rivet
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Yep

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Mirrors Luffy’s weakness also

hot cairn
upbeat yarrow
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we already had emeth saving the day with a nuke, and we might be saved by the revos during elbaf

idk man but if we are gonna have a deus ex machine for every arc during the final saga, thats kinda lame

upbeat yarrow
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so i kinda agree with dolfius

dark nymph
#

Luffy and Loki holding off Imu going to extreme-diff and almost losing anyways until the time limit is over isn't bad either for me

lofty fern
# warm sierra and thats different now why?

Because Luffy's now an adult, his own man. He's responsible for his own crew, he doesn't need his dad looking after him. Before Luffy was a kid and couldn't yet fully protect himself so Dragon would watch over him when he could. He only was very careful to keep their relationship secret. He no longer does after marineford because he trusts Luffy can look after himself now

leaden rivet
#

This is the arc where we kill immortals

ashen perch
trim lily
#

well i think the knights might just panic and retreat if they realize imu left and its just them now

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(mostly because i dont want sommers to die)

hot cairn
leaden rivet
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He’s dying, and it’ll be ok. You’ll forget about him.

warm sierra
lofty fern
wet condor
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This is my preferred way for it to go down lol

hot cairn
wet condor
#

Yeah, so that's the start of it

leaden rivet
ashen perch
#

never?

leaden rivet
#

I’m pretty sure some form of this has happened in every single arc

wet condor
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Probably need to explain what's going on

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And then introduce the idea of the timer

ashen perch
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not at all

leaden rivet
#

Like Shanks arriving right on time to stop Akainu?

ashen perch
#

yeah that is good

lofty fern
leaden rivet
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People have perfect timing because it builds hype and suspense

trim lily
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loki can realize imu is trying to rush things and figures out he can just stall (combined with imu looking worse as time goes on)

warm sierra
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you think Imu is the exposing his own weakness type of villain?

ashen perch
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we knew he was trying to get to Marineford

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and then he did, cool!

leaden rivet
#

And we know Imu’s body is in some way affected by leaving heaven

rose rune
# leaden rivet This is the arc where we kill immortals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6_HjKqlw8U
thank you for reminding me this song exists

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Released on: 1992-01-01

Main Artist: The Immortals
Producer: Willi Morrison
Producer: Ian Guenther
Lyricist: Peter Charles Green
Composer: Peter Charles Green
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leaden rivet
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What happened to your incomprehensible name

dark nymph
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Imu running out of time just before killing a relevant character is on my bingo card

hot cairn
ashen perch
rose rune
spiral sapphire
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i think the theory i read that Imu HAD to act to save his god knights. cause haralds death weakened him already, three deaths would probably do much worse to him.

leaden rivet
ashen perch
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Sandal

trim lily
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didnt you say dragon would arrive by coincidence

lofty fern
ashen perch
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he would be coming for a purpose

spiral sapphire
ashen perch
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the coincidence would be saving Luffy's life while he is at it, like Loguetown.

trim lily
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wouldnt that feel like the same thing

leaden rivet
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Arsal you’re trying to come up with too many explanations why it doesn’t work when you really just don’t like it and that’s ok

trim lily
#

suddenly dragon shows up one chapter to save luffy

ashen perch
#

I explained it pretty clearly

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I dont have an issue with the time limit

lofty fern
ashen perch
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I have an issue with it playing a role randomly, if it only exists to poof out Imu at just the right moment, thats unsatisfactory

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theres another way to go about it

trim lily
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well yeah obviously imu wont just vanish without any explanation or build up just at the right moment

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ideally there'd be building tension for imu to wrap things up fast as people stall him out

lofty fern
ashen perch
hot cairn
ashen perch
#

I am not denying the existence of a time limit jesus

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it does exist

leaden rivet
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I feel like you were denying it last week

prisma yacht
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Hks dying can add up to the toll

lofty fern
warm sierra
ashen perch
lofty fern
#

One of my theories is that Imu's presence is the only thing keeping the Hellfire serpent in line. So he has to stay there at all times to do so. When he leaves it's basically a clock counting down until full chaos.

ashen perch
#

but yeah, its how the time limit is used that matters

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I think it will be fine if they actively try to run down the clock, instead of just unintentionally doing it for example

lofty fern
torn onyx
ashen perch
#

wait so do you think Elbaf falls then?

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what does the 100% look like

lofty fern
#

We're assuming because he spit up blood that he suffers damage from leaving, but it could be from many other things. Like he hasn't done this in a long time or that transforming after so long hurts a lot

ashen perch
#

gotta start saying discord user jesus I guess

#

JESUS

leaden rivet
#

As in it permanently affects him

lofty fern
wet condor
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If Imu was willing to leave the sacred land and come down, especially if there's a health risk involved, I'd expect him to complete it himself yeah

leaden rivet
#

This panel is kinda heartwarming @trim lily lowkey

wet condor
#

He will obviously still delegate certain things to his subordinates. But at the very least he'll take care of the Loki and Luffy situation himself. He won't leave that to anyone else

leaden rivet
#

It would be kinda cute if Imu doesn’t treat his subordinates badly

ashen perch
wet condor
#

He's got those courtly manners about him it seems

lofty fern
wet condor
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He has no love for them but he seems like he doesn't talk down to them really unless they just absolutely fuck up

glacial bear
#

@dense rapids

grand flower
#

Imu did murder Saturn pretty bad

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But he seems forgiving

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Maybe Sommers will tell him the ship is his fault

glacial bear
#

Sommers is absolutely right

trim lily
hot cairn
prisma yacht
#

I don't think imu's gonna mind that

leaden rivet
wet condor
#

It's not total so

leaden rivet
#

If Joyboy wasn’t involved I think he’d a let Saturn live

wet condor
#

He'll let some shit slide

leaden rivet
#

I thought they’d be a little more scared, they were kinda last chapter but not so much now

glacial bear
#

Honestly if it weren’t for that fuckass Joyboy Haki knot. Imu wouldn’t have even worried about Saturn not getting Luffy

hot cairn
trim lily
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also i forgot this chapter confirms the long hair is gunko's and not cause of imu

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i guess she really did just have it all tucked into her hat lol

urban lodge
lofty fern
# ashen perch what does this accomplish though

Perhaps Imu is intending to just kill all the giants in a sort of "if I can't have you, no one will" measure. I think it will also depend on what makes Imu leave. Like say if Vivi comes, he might place her importance above even the giants and basically just leave Elbaph to be destroyed. If he leaves because of timelimit, I think he does something to at least give him a partial victory. I think it depends on what Sommers and perhaps Killingham are being sent off to do.

lofty fern
hot cairn
#

I think people are forgetting that the main goal of the WG here is to get the giants on their side

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however necessary

glacial bear
#

Imu could technically Domi Reversi Gerd & Stansen, but that would be pointless

hot cairn
brittle basin
iron oriole
glacial bear
lofty fern
hearty shore
urban lodge
#

I assume it just stays like that after possesion because why wouldn't it

leaden rivet
brittle basin
glacial bear
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Lmao

grand flower
#

I mean you’re absolutely right

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But could you imagine

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Imu possessing you permanently alters you

trim lily
leaden rivet
lofty fern
grand flower
urban lodge
#

Why are we assuming she didn't

grand flower
#

Oh wrong message

grand flower
urban lodge
#

Idk, Imu growing her hair makes sense to me

glacial bear
trim lily
#

though imu possessed saturn and he was fine after

prisma yacht
lofty fern
iron oriole
lofty fern
lofty fern
iron oriole
#

its not like it just burst out of her hat here

urban lodge
#

That makes no sense

iron oriole
#

it actively grew

urban lodge
#

It definitely grew out

trim lily
#

it’s all weird

leaden rivet
#

Eh it does kinda look like it burst out her hat

lofty fern
trim lily
#

why wasn’t saturn changed by imu

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granted gunko might be a special case

leaden rivet
#

Why didn’t Saturn get luscious locs

urban lodge
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Because he's an old stinky man

iron oriole
#

her hair prior to it always looked like a pixie cut sort of deal

leaden rivet
#

I think Saturn is well groomed

hearty shore
trim lily
#

or curling it

iron oriole
#

i think like here for example... to me the regen would just make her hair grow back wherever possible, i dont think it would regen & then be like "oh right sorry Gunko you had it tucked up inside, lemme do that too"

leaden rivet
#

Though back to the other thing I’m kinda curious why the Blackbeard pirates are so scared of Blackbeard he seems like a chill boss

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He doesn’t really get that mad often on screen

trim lily
#

it goes both ways i think

urban lodge
#

He bullied poor Pizarro

trim lily
#

they love him as a leader but they also fear him

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he’s probably good to them but they also know what he’s capable of

iron oriole
hot cairn
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this too

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they probably don’t trust him 100%

warm sierra
hearty shore
#

most of them joined him after killing everyone in their cells

iron oriole
#

thats only a few on the main crew

trim lily
#

only the level 6 inmates

hearty shore
#

distrust goes both ways in bb crew

trim lily
#

the rest came to hachinosu on their own probably

iron oriole
#

yeah like Don Krieg

warm sierra
#

I mean we dont know how the original members joined

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who can say it wasnt a similar deal

iron oriole
#

i kinda wish that BB has essentially had his OG crew mates for a long time

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met/gathered them during his travels with WB

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and just had them waiting for when he got the fruit & could act on his plan

dense rapids
lofty fern
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I mean, you could ask why do their clothes regen too?

leaden rivet
blazing depot
urban lodge
warm sierra
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He did

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remember Iscat

urban lodge
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He wasn't rude

dense rapids
#

Don’t let Nami get ahold of that staff

urban lodge
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He was encouraging

warm sierra
#

he seemed more disappointed if anything

leaden rivet
#

And if you consider Vivi a strawhat you have this

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Some people do

mental lake
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Is my oc noticeable headahhh

ashen perch
glacial bear
ashen perch
#

Luffy: DON'T PANIC!!

Nami: But...!! But!!

Luffy: CREWMEMBERS OF THE FUTURE PIRATE KING...
SHOULDN'T PUT ON PATHETIC FACES LIKE THAT!!!

is closer to what he actually says

warm sierra
#

people gonna be like BB is only tough on the level 6 criminals, here is why he is actually a good person

leaden rivet
#

I think that’s what he said in the anime

ashen perch
#

its still stern but not as rude

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yeah the anime has a similar translation

leaden rivet
#

How do you know this? Is this panel controversial or something

warm sierra
#

you think Nami is afraid of Luffy? She is beating him up and scolding him constantly lol

leaden rivet
#

That someone would need to present an actual translation

ashen perch
#

I know this because I was looking for a different translation of another line the other day

mental lake
hot cairn
#

this arc really is unpredictable

dark nymph
ashen perch
#

this line

iron oriole
hot cairn
trim lily
#

king of the py rats

ashen perch
#

this was what I was looking for and I saw that line too lol

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yeah, Enel doesnt know about pirates

leaden rivet
#

Enel is way too good for this arc owocry

ashen perch
#

thats what I was trying to confirm

hot cairn
urban lodge
#

Wtf Stephen called him Ener?

warm sierra
ashen perch
#

yeah

trim lily
#

i guess enel never took the chance to talk with any intruders

leaden rivet
#

Thought it was either Eneru or Enel

trim lily