also-manga

[wet condor]

Sure. And Harald stopped it

[latent hamlet]

If it is then I think we can argue for hk harald being stronger than demon rocks
Tho maybe the gap isnt significant

[stone terrace]

Hk boost just seems like immortality so far

[latent hamlet]

But imu could probably pump more juice

[sturdy steeple]

I dunno. I just said they are oppressed, which is a fact.

[stone terrace]

DR gave a visible buff in that you got bigger

[wet condor]

Harald was breaking bread with non WG affiliated nations

[small ember]

Yeah, I’m sure we’ll see other stuff

EVIL HAKI🔥 ⛓️

[wet condor]

Not the Elbaph giants

They aren't under the thumb of a supreme ruler or anything

[sturdy steeple]

I don’t understand what you’re getting at

[iron oriole]

Its a power boost too

[latent hamlet]

Hk boost probably isnt as clear cuz oda wants to set up the inevitable

Imu: Mu shall grant even more power, the greatest level of the abyss contract!
And then roid all the HKs to maximum power up

[sturdy steeple]

Their entire race is facing prejudice because of Elbaf giants

[wet condor]

Where they're constantly having slaves shipped out of their country or whatever

[latent hamlet]

I see the elbaf "oppression" as they won't lose a fight but they'll never know peace

[sturdy steeple]

Harald stopped it and then had to wonder what to do next. He didn’t solve the entire conflict.

Him working with WG next was the solution to begin with.

[wet condor]

I guess the non-Elbaf ones are

[latent hamlet]

Andbeing prejudiced because of your kind's previous misdeeds is oppression

Not a physical kind but still

[wet condor]

That's the route he chose, yeah

[fast pagoda]

Its crazy some people dont understand this when Ida said it herself

[pulsar path]

Lol what was Harold shoulders?

[latent hamlet]

I think harald could have tried to do his peace keeping stuff without siding with WG but he'd be hampered by them

[stone terrace]

It wouldnt have been easy yeah

[pulsar path]

I don't like thinking about it cus I like Harold but I feel like I wanna yell at him

[stone terrace]

But it was on the table

[sturdy steeple]

That’s the route he chose because he was kind of almost cornered into it, yeah.

[stone terrace]

I saw a lot of people saying it was either rocks or the wg and thats so frustrating lmao

[obtuse perch]

he had his heart in the right place. his freakin brain however is utterly missing

[stone terrace]

Tell both to fuck off and continue doing your own thing

[fast pagoda]

Harald isnt dumb hes just extremely misguided

[wet condor]

If you're talking about the giants facing prejudice that's obvious. If you're referring Harald and the Elbaf giants being oppressed, then no I don't agree with that. People certainly have negative opinions about them, but they aren't like these victims lol

[iron oriole]

I think it was just part of his armour, idt we ever actually saw properly?

[wet condor]

P much

It was gonna be hard but that was an option. Of course that means that Harald wouldn't've been able to make amends with all of the other nations who suffered due to the Elbafian giants. That's something that he would have to make peace with, which he obivously didn't or couldn't lol

[fast pagoda]

Thats true, but Harald wanted human acceptance more than anything

His whole goal was branching out to the whole world

[latent hamlet]

I think the biggest trouble would be

insert list of good things harald did
Wg: >insert list of bad things giantkind has done for centuries

"We're gonna trust the WG on this"

[sturdy steeple]

The Elbaf’s actions in the past made it harder for the giant race to coexist with others in the first place. Outside of warriors merchants, traders and whatnot still exist. The moment you leave Elbaf you’re considered a threat and an enemy.

[latent hamlet]

And anything harald does as good could be misframed as more bad things

The WG had control over the news after all

[wet condor]

I can see that

[fast pagoda]

And its almost impossible to do that without getting involved with the WG

Imagine if Harald reached out to Wano instead

[sturdy steeple]

Like my point was that if Elbaf continued the streak of piracy then the oppression wouldn’t really matter to them but with what Harald offered it became an actual thing.

[latent hamlet]

Like theoretically if the WG didnt exist
Harald could clean up the giants reception

[iron oriole]

Would Kaido have still took over

[latent hamlet]

But u cant expect the WG to sit aside while harald is doing nice stuff

The WG is also the same group that went on a baby murder spree for Ace and most likely framed it to the public as "we want to prevent the return of Gold Roger's legacy"

Which is why Garp went to great lengths to hide Ace's reputation from the public

[iron oriole]

I bet they didn't even tell the public

They just removed any info regarding it most likely

[latent hamlet]

WG is actually the biggest Agenda Piece fans, cuz they are the agenda

[fast pagoda]

Elbaph and Wano are definitely the two biggest non WG countries

[latent hamlet]

I feel like they weren't exactly quiet about their search

[fast pagoda]

Which is why the yonko care so much about them

[iron oriole]

They don't need to be when they can silence those that hear

[pulsar path]

He grew horns out his shoulders after pulling them out his head it'sike shark teeth 😭

[iron oriole]

Nah they were always there

[latent hamlet]

Personally I think it'd benefit them to reveal they're looking for Roger's kid
Get the citizens to rat out suspects

[obtuse perch]

Alternatively making it public knowledge Roger had a kid is just asking for every upstart with an ego problem to claim to be that kid and with sheer reputation attract a large crew.

[latent hamlet]

True but I imagine marine activity was so packed that most wouldnt say it for fear of attracting even more attention

Plus from what I remember I think the marines knew his kid would be baby age

Didn't they hunt pregnant women too mostly?

[iron oriole]

They hunted any child born within 9 months after his death

So yeah it included lots of pregnant women

And then Rouge just did the impossible

[stone terrace]

Insane they did that just off a chance that roger boned someone down there

[obtuse perch]

I don't think the beginning of the great pirate era was a moment when people were concerned with attracting attention. The Yonko are known political figures, the world knows the Marines are in a tenuous stalemate with the pirates.

[stone terrace]

I guess you cant blame roger for it but he fucked so many people over there

[red lagoon]

Roger ain’t do shit the wg fucked them over

[iron oriole]

If they were smart, they would have just waited and round up anyone born like 9 months before Rogers death to 9 months after

Instead they did a continous search

[manic atlas]

then he fucked them by telling everyone about the one piece

[red lagoon]

Had to be done for the greater good of the world

https://tenor.com/view/ok-nice-grafic-gif-13206845596055018221

[ornate tartan]

so will you cherish akainu

[red lagoon]

Errr

Lost me

[manic atlas]

he is my brethren afterall so ye.

[frail kindle]

hello alt account

[manic atlas]

? not sure what you are referring to

[frail kindle]

sure ya don't

lol

[dense pike]

Welcome new member

[manic atlas]

hello

[frail kindle]

I know who you are too

[glacial bear]

Hello!

[manic atlas]

hiya

[dense pike]

Fresh and very Lemony

[glacial bear]

How are you today?

[ornate tartan]

where’s your wrench glex 🔧

[frail kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cardy-butthole-checked-your-butthole-gif-22237405

[dense haven]

https://www.ign.com/articles/ishowspeed-anime-in-the-works-with-one-piece-showrunner-as-its-writer

fellas

[manic atlas]

great! hbu?

[thick mango]

Like the streamer is gonna write it?

[glacial bear]

Just chilling. Watching a movie right now.

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-spear-wwe-meme-speed-gif-14082705281519597506

[manic atlas]

nice, what movie?

[glacial bear]

Venom: The Last Dance on Netflix rn. I don’t think I’ve seen a venom movie before but I decided eh, why not? lol

[manic atlas]

never seen it, though it looks interesting.

[vale heath]

IShowScam tbh

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-sped-1

[signal fiber]

I don't know who this kid is but he's everywhere I look on the internet

[subtle mural]

Search ishowspeed

[signal fiber]

What is he famous for

[grand flower]

I taught them how to do all of this

[subtle mural]

Streaming gaming and being freaky

[signal fiber]

I see

[subtle mural]

He also do vlogs and some new experiments

[wet condor]

Now what series could this be lol

[dense haven]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt38770727/

[wet condor]

IMDB ratings for streams

[leaden rivet]

I mean if you know dozens of infants are going to die because you impregnate a women you deserve at least some blame

[wet condor]

He had bad OPSEC

[stone terrace]

I assume even he didnt think they would stoop that low

Though im not sure that wouldve stopped him

[wet condor]

That's something that I don't think anyone could've accounted for actually lol

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-stop-thinking-with-your-dick-yourdick-stan-stanmarsh-gif-12374282

[wet condor]

But his Opsec could've been better because I can easily see someone trying to keep a very low and discreet profile if they know they're a wanted criminal so that the people they love don't get hurt

[leaden rivet]

Well at the very least he knew they would hunt down and kill his child but I suppose he didn’t know they’d kill all the children around

[wet condor]

Dragon seems to have taken measures to keep the world from knowing that he had a kid

Roger may not have cared though

[leaden rivet]

He doesn’t even seem to care that Rouge will get smoked either

[wet condor]

Interestingly they didn't kill her

[stone terrace]

Kinda just left her to do her

Didnt even tell his most trusted guys

I can't believe garp of all people did

[wet condor]

It's kind of a weird situation because they knew he had a kid and they knew he was hanging around a woman.

Did they not suspect her immediately?

I forget the details

[leaden rivet]

They said kill anyone who looks suspicious

[stone terrace]

She had to have held ace for a period of longer than 9 months

Automatically disqualifed

[wet condor]

Yeah she did. But I guess they didn't have a look at her face? They just said, he's with "a woman." I remember there was a panel of a guy looking through a naval telescope and he saw him with her. Surely they saw her pink hair

[royal orchid]

oda cooking up the most evil thing he can use to have as a fun fact for the WG's recent history in the series

also it was definitely roger's fault

[thick mango]

I wonder how much roger stuff ace will get in the live action

they already moved ahead the roger garp look after my son conversation

[sharp holly]

https://youtube.com/shorts/sLp4gmZy2Ec?si=xbGviajURPo3bH9h

[dense haven]

we'll see about that after elbaf is a hole in the sea

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-hit-the-jackpot-jackpot-i-just-hit-i-just-i-gif-6623346210678000489

Oda should’ve included a God Usopp panel when Imu Nerona was thinking about the past

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/polonyalii-1

[royal orchid]

eiichiro gege

[grand rain]

Do you think you guys would be OK finding out who Luffys mom is in an SBS

Similar to getting zoro lineage

[strong wadi]

Probably for the best because that means luffy's mom isn't important 🧘‍♂️

Which is a better outcome than her being important

[rich hornet]

Exactly. I’m not the least bit interested in her

[glacial bear]

I want the Saint Marcus Mars backstory

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-saint-marcus-mars-intro-title-card-saint-marcus-mars-marcus-mars-st-mars-gif-269974191799845594

Mars highkey got that aura

[royal orchid]

warcury backstory will break the internet

[glacial bear]

TRUE!!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/1490378921999466707/IMG_7936.gif

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-saint-topman-warcury-intro-title-card-saint-topman-warcury-topman-warcury-st-warcury-gif-5414042910152365497

He was HITTING that pose 🔥

[blazing glen]

Wait, do we know who Franky's parents were? I forget

[grand flower]

Toei removed Sanji from another crew group scene

Insane work

[grand flower]

He walking to whoop some ass

[honest garden]

Based! Keep doing it due to funny

I don't even dislike Sanji, it's just funny

[grand flower]

He has my favorite form

[grand flower]

It’s genuinely so wild they just do that lmao

It’s so shameless

[honest garden]

I didn't believe it was on purpose but it just gets worse every time they do it

[grand flower]

I just peeped what he doing with his legs what the fuuuuck lmaooooo

Why is he posing like that Lolol

[grand flower]

Lololol

[honest garden]

Lmfao he's just trying to fit in frame

[glacial bear]

He’s showing off that UNC still got it!

[honest garden]

I hope I'm that spritly when I'm 30

[grand flower]

Lololol

[frail kindle]

You won't be

[grand flower]

Can you imagine if warcury was 30

[honest garden]

That's how I imagine aging as a 22 year old

[grand flower]

I read this like you were saying they won’t be 30 at first

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-saint-jaygarcia-saturn-intro-title-card-jaygarcia-saturn-saint-jaygarcia-saturn-st-saturn-gif-15458055018395535192

[honest garden]

Saturn was so cool, too bad he died due to sucking

[grand flower]

Yeah I remember this one this one is heat I’m ngl

[royal orchid]

I think mars was doing the Michael jackson

[frail kindle]

Dumbass Saturn

[royal orchid]

because he's so lanky

[frail kindle]

All he had to do was destroy a giant robot

[grand flower]

I love how Saturn was kinda just a bastard lmao

[honest garden]

I love all their personalities

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-saint-shepherd-ju-peter-title-card-intro-shepherd-ju-peter-ju-peter-st-ju-peter-gif-16681568241591244620

[glacial bear]

Saturn’s purple spider form was really cool

[royal orchid]

oh yeah it was ju peter

[honest garden]

Especially how they're all trying to maintain the status quo this chapter, and the relatively young blooded Garling is the only one who wants to be proactive

[grand flower]

Damn theyre all really cool I’m ngl

[maiden charm]

Freaked out

[royal orchid]

why he aura farming like he didn't eat marines for a whole arc

[honest garden]

I'm so glad they showed how the mouth works lol

[wet condor]

Yeah, they're good overall. The one who I have the least opinion about is Ju Peter

[honest garden]

Cos of the worm thing?

[grand flower]

It’s so hard to find a worm cool or dangerous

[glacial bear]

Would be top 1

[grand flower]

He is the top man

[wet condor]

I guess. I feel like he just talks less?

[maiden charm]

https://tenor.com/view/shai-hulud-sandworm-dune-worm-dune-dune-2-sardaukar-gif-5826933029886743139

[frail kindle]

I will never not think of hellraiser when I see that damn worm

[honest garden]

He's the one who always has to stand right?

I find that so fucking funny

[grand flower]

I’d still kinda be like eh I mean it’s a worm

[wet condor]

Yeah lul. I don't think we've ever seen him sitting down

[wraith mantle]

Anyone here a bit sus about Garling?

[wet condor]

Mars stands a lot too but we've seen him sit down at least once

[maiden charm]

Nah

[grand flower]

Mars has sat actually only one time

[wraith mantle]

He’s too insistent about Imu going to elbaf personally

[wet condor]

Yeah, when he got sent packing

[royal orchid]

it's pretty weird

[grand flower]

When the others return to Marijoa

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/jupeter-jupiter-one-piece-ju-peter-shepherd-ju-peter-one-piece-gif-2419885513280929239

[grand flower]

Oda said he’s always standing csuse his homework is always late @wet condor

That’s his punishment

[grand rain]

its highly insinuated that his dad is Queen

[grand flower]

I bullshit you not

A fan asked and that’s what he said lmao

[grand rain]

but i dont think its actually confimreed

[maiden charm]

I didnt get that at all, it came off like "who are we to tell him what to do,if he wants to go let him. There more pressing matters than begging him to stay " like he dont got time for shenanigans

[wet condor]

was that in an SBS?

[honest garden]

https://youtu.be/jq6tnDiAmbw?si=zJqfylE7RoyT1aFW the funniest part is how Garling steals the seat

[grand flower]

Yeah I think so lol a couple volumes ago

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/garling-garling-one-piece-figarland-garling-one-piece-gorosei-gif-1848223086865747533

[honest garden]

Wtf how did I miss that

[grand rain]

so its a classic oda agrees with asker

still canon

[royal orchid]

mars is always standing because warcury fatass and nusjuro manspreader keep stealing the couch

[honest garden]

They leave it sweaty and Mars doesn't want to deal with that

[honest garden]

He keeps raising tickets to get a new chair but their room is heritage listed and they keep rejecting it

[grand flower]

lolol yeah

[royal orchid]

"he's hogging two seats, Great One!"

[grand flower]

so a fan said it and he said sure

lol oda's response is mad funny

[grand rain]

pretty classic oda

[grand flower]

"what the fuck lol sure why not"

[glacial bear]

LMAO

[royal orchid]

do you think celestial dragons have a favorite elder

the Saint Jay's Fan Club must have been devastated

[dense rapids]

They said this is the updated zunesha kuina meme 😂

[strong wadi]

very poor rendition

[royal orchid]

could make a list of every character being compared to imu's facial features

Sanji, Robin, Mihawk

Killingham

[formal wagon]

he looks like weevil

[frigid gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-3d2y-mihawk-hawkeyes-eye-gif-7808364657373461375

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/polonyalii-1

[fast pagoda]

I like sanji but i hope this keeps happening

His fans are so funny

[dense haven]

meet me outside bro I'll show you whats funny

[blazing mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/dracule-mihawk-mihawk-one-piece-shocked-drinking-gif-16734192470485005389

[blazing mantle]

Why didn’t you vote for Gil

[rustic coral]

Who

[blazing mantle]

😢

[blazing mantle]

Knock it off

Oh my god it’s the last uta fan left

Or more like the only Uta fan

🤣

[blazing mantle]

Did you vote for Shiki

[rustic coral]

Im a Uta fan

[blazing mantle]

No you’re not

[rustic coral]

Yes

[blazing mantle]

Good

Keep up the good work

[formal wagon]

[blazing mantle]

If people were smart about the vote botting then they would have voted for joyboy and imu

So we could see them on the big spread

[rustic coral]

Big mom too

[blazing mantle]

We’re good man

He’ll just draw big mom normally

[rustic coral]

Oda fell off

He wouldnt nowadays

[fast pagoda]

Tier list of OP characters by how much I want to see them on death battle

[rustic coral]

You reminded me hawkins exists

Altho he is not there

[fast pagoda]

i forgot too

[rustic coral]

Wdym barto probs not

[glass plume]

Why isn't Shanks there?

[odd rune]

he's right there

[rustic coral]

Macks

Lee

[glass plume]

Oh I see, my bad.

[fast pagoda]

i somehow forgot lol

[rustic coral]

Is Big Mom coming back

[fast pagoda]

idk why

[rustic coral]

(Yes)

[fast pagoda]

i would put him orange tier definitely

[glass plume]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shanks-anime

[fast pagoda]

shanks is actually one of the characters i want the most

especially after we see more

[glass plume]

There has to be a death battle already out there with Shanks vs Gildarts

[rustic coral]

Shanks is a bum who cried with joy after losing his arm to a sea king

[glass plume]

He was liberated.

[fast pagoda]

there are only 3 op ones and theyre all mid

[glass plume]

Damn, they have something against us.

[fast pagoda]

shanks vs gildarts inst bad but shanks deserves better

[fast pagoda]

i mean its hard because the series hasnt ended yet and a lot of characters havent reached their peak

[glass plume]

True.

I wonder if there's any death battle featuring Dragon already, lol

[fast pagoda]

the sanji one is actually a good example of that

[glass plume]

Where they just insert a bunch of wind moves.

[fast pagoda]

it came out in 2020 so they put a bunch of emphasis on the raid suit

only for him to use it twice in the manga and destroy it a year later

[glass plume]

[fast pagoda]

there are not that many death battles lol, unless youre talking about other fan animations

[glass plume]

Can't wait for them to put emphasis on Imunko, only for the real Imu to show up.

[fast pagoda]

well i think if imu gets on death battle it needs to be a team vs team fight

[glass plume]

I'm talking about the genre in general, since i know that death battles hasn't done many of these niche characters.

[glass plume]

World Government vs

[fast pagoda]

because imu has the ability to summon the gorosei and knights whenever, and imus whole thing is he doesnt like to show up himself unless absolutely necessary

[glass plume]

True.

[pulsar path]

Uh I think this is real oda doing episode 1 Star wars art back from releases

[vital heart]

im back guys :)

[frail kindle]

fuck you

[glass plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1437107069034696834/IMG_2503.gif

[crisp python]

If Mihawk can cut the moon (3000km+ moon while elbaf is around 100km) in half, would that make him stronger than Imu?

[sly belfry]

Sure

[misty pond]

i've seen quite a few theories about Imu being an AI, and I don't buy it because of extreme amount of CoC that he generates.

[glass plume]

I think it's quite the opposite, that they're the literal devil.

Or at least an incarnation of the literal devil.

The literal devil being the evil which plagued the first world, imo.

[quiet sentinel]

i think imu is a manga charcater

my crazy theory

[barren token]

if Nami could cut the milky way galaxy (200000 Light Years+ while syrup village is around 0.0000000000000000000000000000000001 light years) in half, would that make her stronger than Kuro?

[odd rune]

yes

[glass plume]

If Discord was a pocket universe, would us being able to access it make us outerversal?

[alpine trench]

https://x.com/kith_0121/status/2041843933903249827?s=46

Kithwith (@Kith_0121)

Zoro/Sanji/Franky/Yamato

X · Apr 8, 2026, 11:41 AM

[blazing mantle]

The king of hell
A demon
A cyborg
A prince

[glass plume]

I don't see Brook

https://fixupx.com/marimo_fr/status/2042000196398100577

Marimo🌱 - Comms Open!! (2/5) (@marimo_fr)

The King of the world 👁
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What the hell..

ONE PIECE Fighting Path (@opfpNews)

SHAAAAAAAAAAANKS !!! 🤯
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FixupX · Apr 8, 2026, 8:58 PM

Why don't we get these typa games.

[vital heart]

I'm considering becoming either Catholic or Shinto-Buddhist.

Or Norse?

Which of the 3 religions should I follow?

[gritty tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

Odd question to ask in an anime manga discord but

I'd say take a peak in everything and see what connects with you as a person

Generally speaking I'd say there's a good chance you'll find at least one drop of wisdom in everything

[hot helm]

#off-topic

Be buddhist

Cuz Buddha looks cool

And no violence seems like a good thing

And also

[fringe ice]

Shinto-Buddhism is hella cool

[frail kindle]

shut up nerd

[cloud adder]

crazy having uta as the punching dummy

[glass plume]

I didn't even realize lol.

[ashen perch]

I actually said this before you smh but yeah, unlike Shakky I imagine it'll just be a race between Sanji and the BMP (and BM included) on who gets to rescue her first

Yeah I think both are his true forms, the left is moreso just symbolic of his presence

[frail kindle]

BM is dead! Stop coping

[ashen perch]

Not ready ^

[frail kindle]

A lodestar battle Royale makes more sense than god valley 2.0

[vital heart]

This dude glex thinks we're going to lodestar

Do you live in 2022 or something

Wano ended buddy

[cloud adder]

no way TCB translator is anti-lodestar 😭

[ashen perch]

I think its connected to Joyboy, not Roger since its been around for centuries.

I have a different idea for the egg, there's a concept that exists in the prototype of One Piece about Magical Rocs. It wasn't clear what it meant but in Romance Dawn v1, Ann(Proto-Nami)'s best friend gets kidnapped because of his magical blood. I think a similar thing will be inside the egg and maybe it ends up befriending Nami here as well.

[frail kindle]

I wish

[ashen perch]

My idea for Hachinosu kinda involved a lot of things

[glass plume]

Why wouldn't we be going to Lodestar?

[cloud adder]

arsal do you still see hope for Big Mom on elbaf?

[ashen perch]

Its a Marineford esque Garp rescue, its a God Valley esque Pudding rescue and its a battle for the Poneglyph too. I think it's going to be a massive war.

[ashen perch]

I never really said that she had to return here, just that she will return

[cloud adder]

damn

[ashen perch]

But we'll see, I doubt it's happening here atp

[cloud adder]

i will continue to cope with the BM on elbaf believers

and the smaller Uta-on-elbaf hopers

[vital heart]

These are my main theories as of today that I'm championing.

[glass plume]

I mean we got some nightmare homies at least.

Those are terrible.

[cloud adder]

get midd OUT OF HERE

[ashen perch]

Tbh Meek

[cloud adder]

shamrock has no time to waste on kidd bruh

[ashen perch]

Shamrock v Kid is a good one

The other? You need to be real

[cloud adder]

shamrock has fights lined up with shanks, loki, dragon AND garling

[glass plume]

Shamrock is already set up against Loki.

[ashen perch]

No he isn't

[vital heart]

Loki would use Shamrock as toilet paper

[glass plume]

He definitely is.

[vital heart]

Loki would use Shamrock as toilet paper

[glass plume]

Loki told him that he'd get revenge on Shamrock and Shamrock said that he should come and try if he survives.

[ashen perch]

I bet Shamrock and Loki gets resolved right here in this arc

[cloud adder]

@vital heart why would chopper fight zoro's gorosei opponent?

[vital heart]

It's hinted in egghead

[ashen perch]

I think Shamrock is coming

[glass plume]

I thought so before Imu themselves showed up.

[cloud adder]

Shamrock cleaning up the holyland mess that fast? sheeeeesh

[ashen perch]

The situation in Marie Geoise has been quelled

Shamrock is free

[vital heart]

Zoro's final opponent is one of two characters:

(1) Domi Reversi'd Mihawk
(2) Adult + Domi Reversi'd S-Hawk

[cloud adder]

but also, Shamrock coming back to fight a post-imu-fight Loki is kinda cooked

[vital heart]

Not Venusjuro lol

[glass plume]

Well, if Shamrock would've made a return then Imu would've sent him now.

[cloud adder]

Loki is still injured from the chained up beating

[glass plume]

But Imu wanted to go themselves.

[cloud adder]

MIHAWK GETTING DR'ED???

[ashen perch]

Well, Imu's on a time limit so he can't rule over the ruins of Elbaf

[glass plume]

Imu even said no when the gorosei asked to send admirals, themselves or god's knights

[cloud adder]

thats the funniest thing ive read all year, ty meek 😭

[ashen perch]

This is where Shamrock will come into play

[celest mauve]

it's just mihawk

[glass plume]

I think Oda is saving Shamrock for the future, otherwise he wouldn't have been sent away from Elbaph immediately after his introduction.

[celest mauve]

I trust in oda that he won't fumble a 30+ y/o plotline concerning one of the straw hats' dreams

[cloud adder]

its a touch silly for Imu to self-summon all the way to Elbaf solo instead of helping Shamrock/HKs/Gorosei clean up the holyland mess and THEN go with some force to elbaf

ill be shocked if Shamrock returns to Elbaf

Shamrock said he'll wait for Loki to challenge him

[ashen perch]

The mess in Marie Geoise has been cleaned up, its fine

[cloud adder]

Just like Shanks is waiting for Luffy to come to him

[celest mauve]

who's choking the food supply in mariejois btw, the BB pirates?

[ashen perch]

The priority now is getting the army to face the Revos and the world so that they're no longer starved

[glass plume]

Revolutionaries.

[cloud adder]

revs

BBPs will probably take advantage of the rev's work smh

[celest mauve]

I used to think it was the rev army but I remember a panel of blackbeard and laffitte discussing starving the CDs out

[glass plume]

To me this is such an obvious set up for Loki vs Shamrock in the final war, probably even on Marijoa assuming that the final war takes place there.

[cloud adder]

they didnt discuss that as something they're doing themselves, they were talking about what the revs are doing

[lofty fern]

Hmm, I would start with the question of what exactly are you trying to get out of any of them? What is it you're looking for and then going from there

[ashen perch]

I just disagree, he was part of this mission from the start, he was only sent away temporarily so I can see Imu recalling him to contribute to what he started.

[celest mauve]

aight, I've forgotten more than I thought then

[cloud adder]

i need to re-read egghead and early elbaf tbh

[vital heart]

Mental Serenity and Peace. An acceptance of death within all of our lives. A stronger sense of morals and ethics. An external force of accountability. In that order!

[glass plume]

I don't think so, given Sommers or Kilingham were sent there as exchange for Shamrock due to him having to leave.
If anything Sommers, Kilingham or Gunko would be the ones who takes care of things after Imu is done on Elbaph.

Assuming that Imu doesn't execute them on the spot.

[celest mauve]

yeah you guys are right, it's the rev army doing it and the BB pirates are going to (yet again) try to take advantage of the situation

[vital heart]

Either Catholicism or Shinto-Buddhism are the ones for me.

[lofty fern]

I do wonder, how deep Loki's hate stays. Gunko is actually the one who killed all his friends and tortured him and he kinda just left her on ice

[alpine trench]

Why are you asking us this? What appeals to you the most

[ashen perch]

Uh

Not the channel nor the server for this

[alpine trench]

Yeah I was wondering what the point of this question here was

[vital heart]

Ok Harsh, I'll take it to your DMs then 💀

[glass plume]

It felt like he put most of the blame on Shamrock at the end of the day, probably due to his already bad relation with Shanks the brother.

[alpine trench]

Maybe #also-off-topic but Arsal saying no is pretty damning

[cloud adder]

there was some chatter in the manga channel about a theory that BB will get into the flower room and wait for imu's return to parallel rocks meeting imu in the flower room
this would also be the perfect time for catarina to use her saturn form in front of the og gorosei to distract them

[ashen perch]

We avoid in depth religious discussions here, for various reasons

[glass plume]

I think that the Figarland matchups will go something like this

Blackbeard vs Shanks (Even though I hate it.)
Garling vs Dragon
Shamrock vs Loki

[ashen perch]

But yeah, One Piece One Piece One Piece 🫡

[cloud adder]

Shamrock is the commander tho, Gunko was doing a lot of yapping but Shamrock was clearly the superior giving the orders

[alpine trench]

We’ve had many in depth discussions about religion and symbols in this very channel Arsal

[ashen perch]

Well that was related to One Piece silly...

[alpine trench]

I think it should be ok considering everyone is respectful

Ok

Well

That’s true

[cloud adder]

@vital heart worship nika

[ashen perch]

Depends on if Gunko can be taken out of the ice immediately

[glass plume]

I might be going crazy, but I think I saw some cracks in it already.

Could be texture though..

[alpine trench]

I thought the most exciting arrival in this arc would probably be shanks but Oda decided to go bigger

[ashen perch]

I think if she's stuck, I can see Imu just seeking out Shamrock to take care of the rest while he focuses on Nika and Nidhoggr

[cloud adder]

shanks is not returning to elbaf ong

[glass plume]

If so, then I feel like Imu would've told the elders to prepare Shamrock for departure when they had the discussion on who was going to go.

[alpine trench]

Shamrock is probably still needed in Mariejois

I don’t see him returning here per se

[ashen perch]

Shamrock was actually involved here unlike the Gorosei, this is his mission

[cloud adder]

pls let shamrock be in next chapter

[alpine trench]

Yeah but he’s needed over in the holy land

That’s why he left

I think Oda just let him in there for the setup

[ashen perch]

Garling said that its cooled down, I think it'll be fine

[glass plume]

Like right here, I feel like Imu should've mentioned Shamrock.

If he was planned to go to Elbaph again.

[lofty fern]

I don't think Loki would care, he would care about who did the deed. Also we saw that Shamrock and Gunko speak and equals, not one over the other. He wasn't commander yet either. We also saw Gunko did most of that on her own, not ordered by Shamrock.

[ashen perch]

Also to elaborate a bit more on his purpose here, I think it'll have to do with Kid. There's been some setup here for those with eyes to see... The weirdly magnetic bodies of the HKs, their steel hearts, and going back further: Kid's unexplained beef with Shanks, which might actually have been Shamrock's fault

[lofty fern]

Why? Imu's already decided on carrying this out himself, he's not changing his mind

[cloud adder]

do yall think theres some kind of limit for travelling the abyss?
it feels like the holy knights should have been more active across earlier one piece plot but if oda makes it so there's a physical cost to using the summoning repeatedly over one's lifetime it could give them a reason to use it sparingly and with imu being centuries old, maybe travelling the abyss deals a bit of damage and thats why they were coughing up blood on arrival

[ashen perch]

He'll assess the situation once he gets here

[glass plume]

Yeah, that's what we're discussing lol.
Arsal thinks that Shamrock will be sent back, and I do not.

[ashen perch]

If Imu can do it alone, then he wouldn't need to save the HKs either but lets be real, he will

[glass plume]

I am 50/50 on it.

I feel like he may execute Sommers and Kilingham for their incompetence.

[ashen perch]

He's limited, that doesn't mean he'll struggle much but he is not at his full capabilities

[ashen perch]

I doubt it

[glass plume]

Who was it who caught the attention of the emperor crew first?

Was it Gunko?.

[lofty fern]

I don't think so, none of the knights seem to consider or say there is. Imu might have one but more about his own personal condition than anything about traveling through. I also don't think Oda thought about this part earlier so we don't see it. But also earlier OP was very SH-centric and there was no entrance of the HKs at that time, thus no opportunity to see it in action

[glass plume]

I swear i remember them talking about that they shouldn't catch their attention and just proceed with this mission.

[ashen perch]

Yea Gunko was the first to confront them directly

[glass plume]

That could factor in to a possible death, if you ask me.

Although it is inevitable.

[cloud adder]

shamrock is commander... and idk, imo, the dialogue we saw across the loki "interrogation" makes it seem like he calls the shots

[ashen perch]

Well its not like there was a strict order to not do so

[lofty fern]

Why? It's redundant. You think Imu believes one of his minions can get a job done he can't himself? He's already sent 2 knights, he's not sending more.

[cosmic hamlet]

Hello

[glass plume]

I don't think so.

I am arguing for Shamrock not returning to Elbaph

[glass plume]

Fair enough..

[ashen perch]

We'll see, I think bringing back the guy who was actually leading the mission in the first place makes sense but yeah

[safe cove]

my prediction lafitte hypnotized one of the rev commanders to attack holy land forcing revs to go in for the attack as well. So BB pirates can raid it as well

[lofty fern]

Yes, he's like the captain of a group, but he's not THE commander. His title is more low level. Their dialogue very much sounds more like they are equals. Gunko does most things on her own, and Sham just observes and even tells her to pull back at times. She's the agressive one in every one of their situations

[cosmic hamlet]

It feels like this was 2 years ago or something

[glass plume]

I would've agreed, if Imu weren't so reluctant on sending anyone else.
Like they straight up rejected the elders going there, they were determined to do it themselves.

[vital heart]

lmao everything pre-rocks flashback feels ancient

imo

[cloud adder]

oh, youre talking about Commander vs Supreme Commander title?

[ashen perch]

Well he didn't want to send the Elders instead of himself

[lofty fern]

I know, I agree. I think this arc is actually going to wrap up soon

[cosmic hamlet]

It was the longest flashback so far right?

[ashen perch]

He didn't say that no one else will be allowed to help at all lol

[cloud adder]

shamrock's intro was over a year ago 💔

[glass plume]

I think so too, I feel like they'll take refuge in the heaven-realm while Imu is tearing the rest to shreds.

[prisma idol]

The flashback started almost a year ago, June 23rd

[cloud adder]

no way they abandon lower elbaf

[glass plume]

They might not have a choice.

[cosmic hamlet]

Oh

[glass plume]

I think there are a lot of deathflags for Elbaph as a whole.

[lofty fern]

Is there a particular reason you want Shamrock there? I feel like Imu is enough. To downgrade to Shamrock would feel superfluous

[ashen perch]

I remember people thought the WCI arc was wrapping up soon during the wedding too

[vital heart]

yep

[vital heart]

it did lol

[cloud adder]

calling shamrock a downgrade

[vital heart]

wedding was 860s

[vital heart]

wci ended 890s

[ashen perch]

900

[vital heart]

late 890s

[ashen perch]

902 iirc

[prisma idol]

30 more chapters isn't wrapping up meek

[vital heart]

late 890s*

smh

[cloud adder]

idk, i really think imu will be forced to retreat

[ashen perch]

Mainly Kid, I explained it earlier

[vital heart]

i mean

[lofty fern]

To be fair, in OP it kinda is. If your arc is 120 chapters, 20 of them can be considered wrap up

[ashen perch]

.

[lofty fern]

So this is just to force Kid into the story?

[vital heart]

We're closer to the ending of Elbaf relative to where we are right now, compared to how close the WCI ending was relative to the WCI wedding chapters. If that makes any sense @ashen perch

[glass plume]

They will, but it won't be because of anyone standing against them.
It'll be their own weakness whatever that might be.

[ashen perch]

It won't be forced

[cosmic hamlet]

30 chapters is 1 year, thats a long time

[knotty root]

30 chapters is a year worth of content nowawadays considering oda's health now

[vital heart]

elbaf ends by december lmfao

[prisma idol]

IMU SAMA DESTORY ELBAF

[vital heart]

the next arc is gonna start 2027 btw

[cloud adder]

elbaf ends by october!

[lofty fern]

It is if the story is wrapping up and you want to add in characters just so Kid can appear out of nowhere and do something

[ashen perch]

If we have 42 more chapters to go till the end of Elbaf, then I'm pretty much right lol

[cloud adder]

LODESTAR NOVEMBER

[cosmic hamlet]

My prediction 1 year ago is that it will be 70-80 chapter arc. I still stick with that

[prisma idol]

to early for lodestar

[lofty fern]

Yeah, but we've seen long wrap ups before.

[cloud adder]

WHAT

[prisma idol]

We need the 4th road poneglyph before lodestar

[cloud adder]

we're already LATE for lodestar

[vital heart]

that fits

[cloud adder]

why

[cosmic hamlet]

Yes, lodestar will happen after final saga 😉

[ashen perch]

35 chapters was Oda's pace last year, should be similar if all goes well hopefully

[prisma idol]

Because Lodestar is where we will set off from for laughtale

[cloud adder]

lodestar is probs where we meet burn scar

[glass plume]

I think Imu has had enough of Elbaph.

[prisma idol]

[cosmic hamlet]

Its a joke

[knotty root]

True, but I wouldnt expect something that log considering the amount of characters on the island atp. Or if oda just suddenly transitions to the outside world after the big fight then yeah I can see that

[safe cove]

i think the next chapter, imu vs luffy and loki fight will happen in heavens realm

[cloud adder]

we'll get the glyph on lodestar dw

[cold steppe]

Lodestar will happen

In a newspaper

[prisma idol]

No

[vital heart]

yeah, the year started with 1170, right?

[safe cove]

this kinda sucks 51 chapters in and no mention about lola

[cloud adder]

[ashen perch]

You're assuming it is wrapping up and not at a crucial turning point that'll act as the trigger for the second half of the arc. I'm not seeing Imu showing up as a sign of the arc ending instantly at all.

[prisma idol]

Lodestar we be a simple 10 chapter mini arc before setting off to laughtale for the real massive arc

[cloud adder]

loki flashback to his pirating days isnt happening on elbaf sowwy

[ashen perch]

mini arc

[frail kindle]

Wrong

LODESTAR BATTLE ROYALE

[cloud adder]

lodestar will be 50 chapters minimum

[cosmic hamlet]

Is there even a 10 chapter arc? How long is zou?

[glass plume]

https://x.com/7RSOJ/status/2042133246637699383/photo/1

ワドD (@7RSOJ)

自分が描くしかねぇのか！！

X · Apr 9, 2026, 6:51 AM

[ashen perch]

I can't remember the last time anyone was right about mini arcs

[prisma idol]

It all depends on Where oda wants the battle for the OP to take place

[prisma idol]

28

[knotty root]

Early one piece

[safe cove]

wthelly

[ashen perch]

We haven't officially had a mini arc since like Return to Sabaody

[cosmic hamlet]

Probably jaya

[safe cove]

there's nothing on lodestar

[cosmic hamlet]

Wow

[ashen perch]

Reverie was specifically said to not be an arc by the editor lol

[cloud adder]

PLS I NEED TO SEE THEM BE DUMB BROTHERS IM GONNA CRY

[safe cove]

i agree with 10 chapters max

[cosmic hamlet]

The small islands in alabasta saga?

[ashen perch]

Lodestar will be 30 chapters

[prisma idol]

I would prefer it being Mini because once we reach laughtale its a long haul, with the VC flashback and possible fights

[cloud adder]

calling shanks nothing

[safe cove]

whiskey peak?

[ashen perch]

Minimum

[cosmic hamlet]

9 chapters

[safe cove]

close

whiskey peak was that long? damn

[cloud adder]

wait i just realized, is this a reference to the Shanks stare frame from the most recent ep 😭

[knotty root]

Hypothetically what would the straw hats do BESIDES finding out ab how to get to lsughtale on lodestar (which they already know)

[lofty fern]

So how much longer are we talking? You think we're only in the middle or something?

[glass plume]

Yep.

[cosmic hamlet]

Lodestar is just an empty island right? I don't expect people living in that island

🤨

[ashen perch]

I think we'll meet Burn Scar there, we'll meet the people there, have a little adventure there and maybe also meet Shanks there because why not.

That's an easy 30 chapters arc minimum

[prisma idol]

It still has some lore

[cosmic hamlet]

It does

[safe cove]

lodestar looks like orange town

ngl

[glass plume]

Meeting Shanks on Lodestar feels so fitting, yeah.

[ashen perch]

There's absolutely no reason to think that its an empty island

[cloud adder]

i need someone to take that anime frame, mirror it, remove the scar and add long hair so we have ShamrockStare 😭

[glass plume]

Lmfao, that would be fun.

[vital heart]

did u see shimons theory that burnscar = urouge

[cosmic hamlet]

So people live in that island?

[cloud adder]

urouge agenda

[cosmic hamlet]

Urouge is dead, we move on

💀

[ashen perch]

Yeah, we've got 45-ish chapters left imo.

[cosmic hamlet]

I found his skull too

[safe cove]

WE MUST go to the heavens realm for the next chapter, let the boys fight there

[ashen perch]

Its fun but unlikely

[ashen perch]

Probably yeah

[cosmic hamlet]

45 is way too many

[knotty root]

Would there be another way for them to know how to get to laughtale
Just reading a peace of stone sounds boring

[cloud adder]

heavens realm is reserved for post-elbaf, keep dreaming

[prisma idol]

Urouge isnt real

[cosmic hamlet]

I don't know, would laughtale sounds boring?

[safe cove]

I swear if urouge is really there 😭

[knotty root]

it wouldn't for me because of the void century flashback. However they decide to present that anyways

[cosmic hamlet]

Heavens realm is where warrior god body rests

[safe cove]

valhalla?

[cosmic hamlet]

You think we will get a full fledged flashback in laughtale?

[safe cove]

wait that's different

[knotty root]

it would be weird not to. Do you think otherwise?

[cosmic hamlet]

I wonder from whose pov we will first see void century flashback

[cold steppe]

Heavens realm is how the strawhats will unlock open world free roam

[cosmic hamlet]

It can be bits and pieces scattered across

[cloud adder]

urouge and uta!

[safe cove]

who wrote the poneglyphs?

[cosmic hamlet]

** **

[knotty root]

interesting concept. I wouldn't be agaisnt it.

[cloud adder]

yooo, W new server emote

[safe cove]

uta 🥀

[cloud adder]

[cosmic hamlet]

Kozuki clan

[glass plume]

HOLD ON WHEN DID WE GET THAT EMOTE.

[cloud adder]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-uta-1

[safe cove]

maybe from whoever wrote it

[cosmic hamlet]

I'm sure we will be seeing different parts from different pov like how we saw kaido, kuma and then rocks for god valley

[cloud adder]

it might be fresh off the press fr

[cosmic hamlet]

April fools day

[glass plume]

THATS SIIIICK

Thanks to whoever made it!

[glass plume]

[lofty fern]

Eh, I'd give it maybe 20-30

[cosmic hamlet]

Its not from a single person, its written by a whole clan

[safe cove]

1st april, when they locked me in #sports

[cosmic hamlet]

Lucky

[safe cove]

I would love it if it was from Lily's POV

[prisma idol]

Green card

[cloud adder]

pls hurry up and post the essay shuron

i wanna sleep

[cosmic hamlet]

I still believe in my theory that lily is involved in the creation of laughtale, either the stuff that is in the island or the process

[safe cove]

yeah that island def artificial

[glass plume]

We've already seen laugh tale.

Joyboy is standing on it here.

[safe cove]

looks like he's standing on a poneglyph lol

[lofty fern]

You assume that's laugh tale?

[glass plume]

Yes

[lofty fern]

Also, has Joyboy ever been related to laugh tale? We know there's a true history there, and Roger named it Laugh tale, but has Joyboy ever been a factor

[glass plume]

Well, Roger couldn't access the Joyboy part of it.

That's why they were too early.

[lofty fern]

You think that's what it meant?

[glass plume]

There's also Joyboy's immeasurable treasure being left there.

[lofty fern]

I think they probably knew about Joyboy, but I don't know if Laugh tale was as important for Joyboy as it is for Luffy and the people today.

[lofty fern]

I wonder what kind of treasure it actually is

[glass plume]

Could be the story itself.

Though there's probably something more, given everyone says that getting the one piece changes the world.

[lofty fern]

Like people should ask, what was Laugh Tale's original name?

[knotty root]

Probsbly some big ass wishing machine

sounds something that could change the world

[grand flower]

@hot cairn @ashen perch

Realized this in a dream last night. Oda may have been hiding from us that Sanji is related to Ryuma and that’s why Oda keeps doing that yin-yang thing with Sanji and Zoro

Ryuma got his reputation by single-handedly driving off pirates from attacking Wano for its gold. Gaban got his title for single-handedly driving off pirates from attacking GOLD Roger.

Gaban heads a strong resemblance to Hyogoro of the flower, who is from Wano. Gaban and Sanji are both depicted in flower shirts in post-Wano arcs

Wano is about us helping Momonosuke, which means Peach Boy. Sanji trained in Momoiro Island.

Just like Zoro, Sanji is highly skilled with swordplay.

Ryuma’s outfit has a sash with imagery resembling Sanjis swirly brow

The people who would become Germa could have left Wano by taking those snails with them to climb over Wano’s borders. Or maybe it’s thru Sora.

I forgot the other reasons

[cloud adder]

sanji is a lomeo descendant

[grand flower]

That’s Ryuma’s alias

[safe cove]

"Romeo was your Father's Grandfather. Your mother's Grandfather was Ryuma"

[cosmic hamlet]

realized this in a dream last night

You need better dreams, not one piece dreams

[grand flower]

I’m sick, you see

“Ryuma drove off pirates from gold alone, Gaban drove off pirates from GOLD Roger alone lol….wait a second”

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-leonardo-dicaprio-inception-wake-up-gif-19107281

[lament socket]

I can't believe Sanji is actually vinsmoke romeo transported forward in time by toki

[pulsar path]

Chopper didn't eat a devil fruit

It's something else 🤔

I mean it being a mushroom shape 🤔

Mushrooms have been hypothesised to originate from space coming from a meteor

Also done say trippy mushrooms influenced it evolution

And lastly maybe this is the true first devil fruit maybe it lets out spores for other devil fruits to grow

[safe cove]

all-cure mushroom is hito hito no mi fruit all this time

[pulsar path]

Yeah!

Tbh is there any other devil fruits that arnt somewhat fruit shaped or based as well ?.

[knotty root]

Ope Ope is heart shaped

[vital heart]

@safe cove @lofty fern @glass plume im 99% sure i got this right on the dot.

hit the nail on the cheek, as they say

[knotty root]

There's also Robin's fruit which is shaped as a flower

[vital heart]

this is in reference to what i think the OP itself si

[knotty root]

how would the straw hat the change the world if so. Not saying the one piece being a straw hat is impossible but I fail to see how some straw would so significant to change the world

[safe cove]

i mean isn't joyboy's strawhat with imu now?

the giant strawhat one

[shell sinew]

what irl twins are like this?

[glass plume]

Hmmm.

[vital heart]

It can be any strawhat. Don't ask me. Ask Oda.

[knotty root]

That is unconfirmed by this point. Looking at his silhouette in emeth's flashback he seem to be fairly regular sized.

[maiden saffron]

Roger literally laughed because he read a funny story. Stop overcooking brother.

[ornate tartan]

he laughed because nothing was there but a message

[maiden saffron]

well there were other things there too

oden confirmed

[vital heart]

So what do you think the onepiece is then

[maiden saffron]

a funny story left behind by Joyboy

maybe, literally one piece of paper containing the story

[vital heart]

What good would that do in anyone besides Luffy's hand tho?

Why would Koby want that

[maiden saffron]

The one piece isn't important for what it is, it's important for what it represents

[ornate tartan]

the one piece cannot be just a story on a piece of paper

[maiden saffron]

it's the "ultimate treasure" that encourages pirates to set sail

[ornate tartan]

that would be the most bullshit treasure i’ve ever seen

[maiden saffron]

if someone finds it, pirates wont have a reason to set sail nearly as much

[knotty root]

Koby doesn't know it's that. The only thing the world knows that it will change the world someway somehow. If its thst significant of course koby and others would want to pursue it

[ornate tartan]

it has to be something more impactful

[vital heart]

Ohhhh

[maiden saffron]

that's why Roger and Whitebeard's words are so impactful

because they make people wanna try and find the treasure

[ornate tartan]

the one who claims the one piece will decide the fate of the world

u not doing that with a single piece of paper with a joke on it

[vital heart]

The OP is important not in its actual intrinsic value but by its nature of influencing people to become pirates? @maiden saffron @knotty root

[safe cove]

i don't think so, he's seems bigger than regular sized human like luffy

[maiden saffron]

Yes, but there's other things related to laughtale that aren't necessarily the "one piece"

stuff like information about the void century, the true history, ancient weapons

things that ARE important

and WILL change up the world

[ornate tartan]

the one piece is important too

[maiden saffron]

but the story left behind by Joyboy is probably just a funny story

[ornate tartan]

it is a physical treasure

[knotty root]

Fair enough, the guy seems to be whitebeard size if we're looking at it like this

[safe cove]

yeah whitebeard or kuma size imo

probably a buccaneer

[maiden saffron]

it is also important in it's value because it describes the true history, information about the ancient weapons and more. But those are things only a handful people even know about.

For most pirates it's literally just that, The biggest treasure in the world that they wanna find.

[glass plume]

https://x.com/izam_BKB/status/2042134044851540416

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Imu sketch #onepiece #onepiece1179

X · Apr 9, 2026, 6:54 AM

[knotty root]

But then again height doesn't matter alot in this case if their heads are just too small to fit it

[maiden saffron]

Only we, the readers and a small handful of in-story characters are actually aware of what laughtale holds in addition to the One Piece

[small ember]

One Piece is a spec script for a series Roger wanted to work on

[ornate tartan]

that’s just size scaling inconsistency

i believe joyboy will be like 9-10 feet tall

nothing too crazy

around the height of roger garp

[knotty root]

True, oda's not really the man you want to ask for consistent sizes

[glass plume]

I've seen people think that the straw hat on Marijoa is Imu's straw hat.

And that Imu is a the original Nika, lol.

I am unsure what to say.

[safe cove]

i dont think imu is from first world

[glass plume]

I do.

[maiden saffron]

I think he is yeah

[knotty root]

what kind of damn nika support/enforces slavery

[glass plume]

All of it kinda plays into the interpretation of Nika being a destroyer god.

[maiden saffron]

the one the nobles want him to be

[ornate tartan]

fayee i believe someone else is nika

[maiden saffron]

my crackhead theory is that there's 2 variations of the nika fruit, one from the perspective of commoners, and one from the perspective of the elites

[safe cove]

who is it

[glass plume]

Yeah that'd make sense

[maiden saffron]

Luffy has the warrior of liberation fruit

[ornate tartan]

not nika specifically but kyros was a good parallel in dressrosa

[maiden saffron]

Imu has the warrior of opression or whatever the hell you wanna call it

[glass plume]

I am not sure i want to claim that Imu is a Nika of any type, I think they're more just the literal devil.

[maiden saffron]

i think he is literally the devil too, yeah

[ornate tartan]

kyros and the story of dressrosa kinda resembled nika

[glass plume]

Blackbeard would sort of match with the evil Nika we saw on Elbaph.

So I mean, maybe the darkness fruit has something..

[vital heart]

no

[maiden saffron]

he's the devil like luffy is nika

[knotty root]

There's always the other crackpot theory of BB's dark fruit not being a logia.

[glass plume]

I definitely think it's a mythical zoan.

It feels inevitable.

[maiden saffron]

yeah

[safe cove]

i mean if we think abt it yeah, erased history, oppression, etc

[maiden saffron]

i think it has to be at this point

[safe cove]

i dont want it

[knotty root]

I wouldn't call it a crackpot theory but it would feel stupid that it's secretly a zoan. Blackbeard is destined to get a zoan on his kit, if the darkness fruit is actually a zoan what logia would blackbeard obtain to fit his theme

[glass plume]

I don't think he needs a fruit of every type.

That's more just the fans wanting it.

[maiden saffron]

It makes a lot of sense that they'd try and cover up what that fruit actually is

like Gomu gomu

they'd say its just a paramecia / logia with a specific power (rubber body, ability to suck in anything)

[knotty root]

It feels like making a painting but with all the paint but without a canvas. The materials are there for you to use but you're not using it to it's fullest potential

[maiden saffron]

and

I really don't think Blackbeard was hunting a fruit for years just so he didn't have to learn armament haki

[glass plume]

I don't see it that way, I've always been a subscriber to the idea that the darkness is a hidden mythical zoan so Blackbeard doesn't need anymore fruits.

I think that redoing the whole "eating more than 1 fruit" would become stale if it's done again.

[stone terrace]

Well he hunted a third one already so its only a matter of time

[cloud charm]

Yesterdays. Silverrrsbernmwdwhxei

[glass plume]

At that point, why not go for a fourth or a fifth or a sixth?

[stone terrace]

The popular theory is that 3 is the limit since he has a 3 motif going on

But if there is no limit then he may as well

[safe cove]

i hope the next chapter is loki's hybrid form reveal

[glass plume]

Oh right, the three skulls.

And three guns.

And three beard tips.

I'm sure I missed something.

[safe cove]

3 scars on shanks

[glass plume]

I wouldn't attribute that with this.

Sure it's Blackbeard who did it, but it's not the same.

[safe cove]

yeah

[knotty root]

And three attempts of getting woman

[glass plume]

He probably used this thingy.

[knotty root]

Bonney, Hancock, Pudding

[safe cove]

was blackbeard after hancock's fruit for himself or his crew?

[glass plume]

For himself it seemed.

[glass plume]

Lol.

[knotty root]

this is the most probable chance but I fail to see a scenario on how this would be useful

For him at least

[glass plume]

I mean, Oda said that the same fruit is used differently by different people.

[knotty root]

Unless doc q makes blackbeard a hot female cuz why not

[glass plume]

So the fruit would probably adapt to Blackbeard.

[safe cove]

the emotion for it's power doesn't have to be lust or love i think, it could be from fear

if bb uses it

[glass plume]

I think it has to be love or lust, given that's what the fruit is.

It would just make people love Blackbeard I guess?.

[knotty root]

Blackbesrd has done many good deeds to make the world love him

[glass plume]

I honestly think that Blackbeard planned to use it mostly because he could turn people to stone by touching them.

He'd combine that with the gravity pull and then shatter them with the quake.

[glass plume]

Hell no.

[knotty root]

He took whitebeards power to carry on his legacy

He didn't want akainu getting the fruit so he had to for the sake of the world

[glass plume]

He didn't care about Whitebeard, lol.

He thought that he was getting old.

[knotty root]

Blackbeard only wants to change the world for the better

And doing that isn't all rainbows and sunshine

[glass plume]

I definitely don't think he wants to change it for the better.

He just wants to rule it himself.

He wants boundless chaos.

[knotty root]

So that piracy can reign supreme, which is synonymous with freedom according to a valid source

(luffy)

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-vs-aliens-bob-funny-shocked-shook-gif-4861342645729883333

[void pendant]

Imu flashback reveals that imu fighting with joyboy in next chapter ...joyboy has a eyepatch

[ashen perch]

eh...

I mean I wouldnt say its impossible but eh...

[glass plume]

Arsal want to see my color scheme for Imu?

[ashen perch]

Sure yeah

[glass plume]

LionStar is the original one, I just colored over it.

Here's the proper panels.

[ashen perch]

I like it mostly, yellow tattoos is a bit odd though

[glass plume]

It was meant to represent golden circuitry almost, but yeah i'd probably have gone with a light red maybe if i was redoing it.

[ashen perch]

I was thinking they'd be more darker personally. Maybe something like Dragon's red for example

[glass plume]

Would it look good with the skin tone though?

[ashen perch]

Yeah I think the skin tone is gonna be a lighter shade than this, so it can work

I'm hoping that Oda drops some details of the color scheme next chapter atleast

Like he did with Loki yknow?

[glass plume]

More of this tone maybe.

[ashen perch]

Had Jarul mention that he's an obsidian dragon

[glass plume]

I am hoping that it drops in a magazine, sometime earlier than the volume lol.

[ashen perch]

Maybe if we manage to get him in the world top 100...

[glass plume]

Maybe Imu will be described as red next chapter.

[ashen perch]

Yeahh

[glass plume]

"He is red like the devil!.."

[ashen perch]

If he's meant to look Lunarian, have Zoro mention that because of his past encounters
If he's meant to look devilish, have anyone point out that he looks like a devil

Anything like that would be nice

Well I do really doubt the Lunarian thing personally but still

[glass plume]

I don't think they're lunarian either...

[grand flower]

@ashen perch check tags

[ashen perch]

I did, I said eh.........

[grand flower]

Ryuma = Vinsmoke Romeo

Tag me you coward

[ashen perch]

I probably forgot

[glass plume]

I am definitely hoping that Imu is red, just to push the devil theme even further.

[ashen perch]

My fingers do that on their own, because I'm used to not pinging people

My idea for Imu's color scheme is Oars basically

[icy magnet]

i like this colouring, if the tattoos were white it would be perfect to me

[ashen perch]

Blonde hair, pinkish red skin

[icy magnet]

i mean i think it's an Oda thing to make the most devilish character red to be fair

[glass plume]

Wouldn't it blend in with the hair too much?

[icy magnet]

i think it works nice with red skin

[glass plume]

That would work, wasn't Oars also called "the devil" lol

[glass plume]

It definitely does.

[icy magnet]

then again @hidden hollow thinks imu is green

because of Oars Jr

[ashen perch]

Yeah he was

That's his epithet. It was repeated again by Usopp, who questioned if he was a demon lord lol

[final trench]

The lord of destruction

[ashen perch]

Buggy made this based on my idea. This is rough but the other edit was AI which I'd rather not post

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/usopp-usopp-hammer-5-ton-hammer-one-piece-gif-3778087927203761803

[glass plume]

Okay yeah the white worked better than i thought, I thought it'd just get lost in the hair

[glass plume]

Ooh that's nice.

[final trench]

What if imu got sapphire scale

[glass plume]

Light red makes it look like veins, almost.

[icy magnet]

i'm not gonna lie this is my roblox avatar

like white tattooed red imu

🙏🏻

[glass plume]

Oh, nice.

[graceful belfry]

Oda ass coloring

[glass plume]

I might prefer this over the yellow i had originally.

[hidden hollow]

heyheyhey I’m not 100% serious about it smh

[icy magnet]

no i know

i'm not that stupid

[ashen perch]

I mean it is based on Oars, who's colored by Oda...

[hidden hollow]

you’re going to make them think I’m stupid

[icy magnet]

that's the idea

[hidden hollow]

smh

[ashen perch]

I don't think its a bad idea, but Oars is a lot more likely

Than Oars Jr

[icy magnet]

arsalwise you're going to love this one specific bingo chart in #1491152862036623360 i beg your attention it's funny i promise

[graceful belfry]

I’m joking lol. Why Oars, though. Just due to the possible Ancient Giant connect?

[glass plume]

Oars did have three skulls in his belt, didn't he?

[graceful belfry]

Yeah

[ashen perch]

Oars was called The Devil, he was compared to the Demon Lord by Usopp, then there's the three skulls connection too yeha

[glass plume]

Tot Musica, Imu, Blackbeard's Jolly Roger and Oars all have three skulls.

[ashen perch]

I'll check it out later

[glass plume]

Signifying the devil?

Or demonic.

[ashen perch]

Yeah

[icy magnet]

it's the usopp one just in advance

[cosmic hamlet]

🫩

[clever idol]

Imu needs a fade

Oda better have improved on drawing fades

[grand flower]

Arsal please dude

It’s Oda of Color

[dark nymph]

bruh what is this

[royal orchid]

!oda2

[tropic nova]

https://i.imgur.com/K0dZ1qJ.png

[grand flower]

Oh so he’s like majin buu?

[ashen perch]

I was thinking Oars but sure

[icy magnet]

don't ask me

[gloomy tree]

in recent weeks the Usopp death pushers have been out in force

[red lagoon]

No sh will die

[icy magnet]

they're annoying because they're thinking Oda will just make all of Usopp's character bland now

[celest mauve]

the stuff about usopp I've been seeing makes me look like an usopp fan, and I've been disappointed by him for a long time

[dark nymph]

its too early for Usopp to die

[celest mauve]

like the constant "kill usopp" posts and memes is crazy

[thin quest]

Usopp hasn't even met Yasopp yet

he can't die until then

[celest mauve]

I don't really know what he can do in elbaf with imu showing up in person, but I hope he can return home to kaya as a man who can be proud of himself

not just whining and being scared with the occasional pop green or speech feat till the end of the story

[dark nymph]

speech feat

[thin quest]

it's interesting to note that only Chopper and Zoro are directly near Imu right now

all the other SHs are pretty far away

[celest mauve]

his two biggest moments over the past 250+ chapters have been speeches taking up just a few pages each

tough

[grand flower]

Why anyone would doubt my thought processes

[thin quest]

Enel confirmed back before the end of the arc

[dark nymph]

enel, kidd, bm, urouge, dragon, shanks, who else

[thin quest]

Kid is dead

🥀

[small ember]

Imu sought technology from the stars to keep Elders alive

Whoever had the op op fruit swapped the elders’s hearts out

[grand flower]

So many pieces here

I forgot about the Ope Ope fruit

[small ember]

Urouge needs to be a part of this because uhhh

[grand flower]

I think most people have come around to Urouge being the sky knight that Enel beat

So maybe we’ll see them both in this arc

[small ember]

Yeah. I want him to do something lol, like no way there’s a supernova left and Oda said eh let me just not do anything

That’s what Gaban is gonna tell Luffy:

“Urouge…is on his way!!!”

DOOM

[thin quest]

I think there's a few pages Birka flashback in our future at some point

[grand flower]

Dude with how wild Inu is

Imagine how CRAZY Urouge and weevil bouta be

[iron oriole]

[thin quest]

the second Impel Down breakout is gonna be crazy

I need to see Vista again

https://tenor.com/view/vista-vs-mihawk-one-piece-vista-mihawk-fight-gif-25541775

[primal vessel]

We got it boys

Golden luffy and golden imu already

[iron oriole]

They should have used a picture of the plush for Imu...

[primal vessel]

They should've changed it to his reveal already

[iron oriole]

Nah thats too spoilery

[primal vessel]

Who cares about the anime watchers anyway they will see this in 2028

[celest mauve]

I don't think this is his actual base form only because of the clothes he's shown wearing, unless somehow the devil's fruit gives him a wardrobe makeover

[primal vessel]

I aint hiding that fact for 3 years

[royal orchid]

scarring

[celest mauve]

like that cape with the covenant symbol

[primal vessel]

Kinemon typr shit

But look at Loki bro

[celest mauve]

it would be funny if imu really is just a blob though and only looks like a person when using his powers

[celest mauve]

?

[primal vessel]

Maybe his base form is a twink

[royal orchid]

yeah I thought it was weird how the supposed ability transformation gave imu a special set of clothes with the covenant symbol + the ancient tattoos

[primal vessel]

He wasn't even remotely close to his silhouette

Bro's wardrobe changed too then