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Garling hasn't ever been specificaly cruel against Shanks and Shamrock from what we've seen
Garling was telling her about the places hemd take her and the house he'd build and then he found out about shakky
Oh
like, even if he is a garbage being and nothing you'd want to call a husband he seems to be a genuinely good father
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He's groomed Shamrock to be a weapon but yeah we've never seen him be explicitly cruel to him
Meek is muted again right?
lolā¦..
And when Shanks went to Marijoa he was super kind though i think that was a ploy
You guys r interesting
what surprised me the most is that he was so open to Shanks coming back
i thought that door would be closed after he knew that Shanks was with Roger
That alone is evil
it's also implied that Garling sent the other God Knights in search of Shanks
like Sommers had to fight the Roger pirates, lol
Nah thats another child of his that he can groom to be a weapon, he's got Shamrock as an example, his twin must be at least on par
I think shanks was the good and his twin is the evil
part of me thinks that he doesn't view them as weapons, i think he genuinely likes his kids
Nope
They both grew up differently
Didn't he make a bet about hybrid loki being in this chapter?
Hey @woven talon is this supposed to be "glimpsed" and not "glimped"?
I dont, i think if we end up getting Shanks/Shamrock vs Garling, he'll have no issues with cutting them down
I meant he is currently not muted
Actually now that I think about it did I forget to remove the green card role?
Let's mute him
That locks him in sports
i don't know, i could see it going either way
And he cant see anything else
Evil ass role
Especially Shanks, he'll say some shit about how the scum of the world below corrupted his poor child & turned him against his family yap yap yap
Yeah but shanks did end up going back to them, I think he wanted to save his brother
if Shanks wanted to come back to Marijoa, part of me thinks that Garling would be open to it
even after all of this
He needed the CD doctors to fix his eye 
@vital heart you are free, I forgot to remove the role because Koya was down when the reminder was supposed to happen
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the real obstacle would be Imu given that Shanks missed his appointment to become a God's Knight
Everyone thought he left
No I just forgot I locked him away
He would probably only go with a plan, not voluntarily
Garling calling his sons adorable just before killing their mom bruh 
I meant Garling
Why did you lock him away 
I had a brain fart
Stop 
dw sabaku your goat wouldnāt do that
Because I can
man I'll never get used to Loki having pink hair 
I wish i can abuse power like that
I do wonder if Garling has more kids he doesn't know about
It just reminds me of that other pirate w pink hair lol
who, Bonney?
Idk why I was thinking of kidd
can't wait for Shanks and Shamrocks sister
Garling wanting to replace his highborn wife for a pirate scum 
How does this even work
Garling thought that Shakuyaku was more deserving of his love rather than Magnolia was
? R u ok pirate scum? She was the most strongest woman in the world at that time
He mightve not been married
Biblu is loveš¤
I released meek 3 hours earlier than expected
also Shakuyaku ruling the seas through her beauty was clearly a temptation
But yea cd relationship dynamics are odd
Curses
In their pov she is scum
Biblo
Most beautiful woman in the world. Always get the best
Its not just any Pirate, its the most beautiful woman in the world
just slap it on for 3 more hours
your damage can be reversed
imubros
Yeah well, garland didnāt care. Thatās why I find it hard to believe shanks mother is that dumb
this is it
part of me wants to see a Celestial Dragon who has a genuinely good relationship
Bringing shakky to the holy land wouldve been a problem. All the jealous ladies that some trash is more desirable than them
?
Trueee
like a God's Knight who has a wife who they genuinely care for, but they can't step away from the duty they're being forced into
Bro wtf is this thing? I have seen like 10+ posts in one piece subreddit about this. What is the lore?
They wouldn't want to disappoint Garling
maybe even said wife will die if they don't obide
Why are you posting piratefolk's OC
mjsogard?
Oda is totally giving the the twins their own dedicated flashback isn't he
i'd say a God's Knight having that kind of relation would be far more interesting, given the covenants
Can we keep this area about op manga ty
I don't even know what that is, its all from the main one piece sub reddit. I'm just confused and looking for info š
some Reddit meme lol
Its probably regarding the mystery egg on Rogers ship?
like imagine if said God's Knight doesn't obey a command and they're ordered by Imu to kill their wife
Spice didnt answer me on what he meant by this is it
i don't think all of them are brainwashed
He is a good father yes
lol what

Thats it?
Gunko feels like the most obvious example
Garling called his kids adorable heās a great dad!
Idk but probably?

So you are guessing? š
Garling provided for and raised his kids, or at least tried to in the case of shanks
She was so cute in God Valley ā„
Now is instilling bad moral values in your child being a bad parent? I guess you could consider that
Idc garland isnāt a good person in my books til proven otherwise. Setting up his children as a weapon is crazy works.
Garlingās a better dad than Judge 
Well with context that one of the edits is it being on Rogers crew but yes
garland, gargling, garlic come on guys
Murdering his baby mom is also
Back to reading
Bro why is gorlock a šššššš
maybe the mom shouldn't be that weak?
He's a celestial, they're all terrible people. Not to mention he killed Mjosgard
Sheās still cute lol
MjosGOAT
the long hair was cuter
Like? I think in 2026 ppl heard about E files and decided to think all evil is normalized now or some weird ass shit.
Its back when its Gunkmu at least
Do NOT call him that
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no one said that Garling is a good person, lol
Oh, I didnāt realize her hair is short now
idk how u guys b paying attention to all that detail mane. Iām not a real Gunko fan 
But I do like her a lot
Iām hoping she can be saved
Long hair in GV
Short hair in Elbaf
Long hair when Imu took over
Ohh yeah I like the long hair better
Also i'm addicted to the manga, i remember details too much
i'm a long hair guy
I prefer the long hair tbh
I love Gunko, when do I get a figure of her
I should re read tbh, Iām still baffled by all this imu stuff. Iām actually scared for Luffy.
Luffyās protected by plot armour itās ok
I swear thereās some out already?
I mean maybe Loki saves him lol atp
not official for sure
Imu pulling up themselves is probably something that hasn't happened since at least 400+ years ago
these are always lower quality
they only manifested through Saturn on God Valley
Since at least 800+ years ago
Maybe on Japanese sites ! There r some websites from Japan that ship to America/canada
Hello 
I'm betting Imu hasn't left Marijoa since putting themself as ruler
not according to the last chapter lol, Imu is totally going
that would be insane
showing how in control they are
Where do u think itāll go? To find vivi lol?
I donāt think Morgan isnāt gonna give her to imu lowkey
nah, i think Elbaph is the only option
especially after Imu realized that both Nika and Nidhoggr are there
they want to erase them
Naw
Imu not showing up after having everyone thinking they won would be so ass
now is the time for dragon to make his move
He'll fail because plot
I didnāt think he was going back to elbaf when spoilers were out but now with that editor comment
So it's gonna be something else
It seems much more likely
they have to go back to Elbaph
it would be illogical any other way with this build up
it's built up like Gunko was a too weak vessel for Imu so they decide to go there themselves
Idk all I know is we need a proper usopp moment
This gives me "ight i'm pissed" vibes too much, Imu is for sure coming personally to teach them a lesson
spoilers
So maybe Imu should return, or at the very least send some sort of beast over while he does what he needs to do
chopper actually might be pivotal in the arc instead of usopp
I think its truly over
I dont think its about gunko per se, more like possession Imu being weaker than in person Imu
Anyone but Usopp
part of me thinks that Imu will show up on Elbaph and unleash a similair haki burst as Joyboy did on Egghead
I do want to remind everyone, Oda is no stranger to misleading everyone with the last panel/page of a chapter
it'll be a mirror
i think it's simply Gunko being a too weak vessel for Imu to unleash the full extent of their power
Imu haki covering all of Elbaf inc
"oh y'all immune to domi reversi? Bet, hold my phone"
IT DOESNT LET ME
i mean yeah, they already went halway with it when they first took over Gunko lol
Gunko seems more special than the elders, why was it enough on GV?
WHAT
Forgot super reacts were a feature
I agree w this statement & because the domi reversi didnāt work , imu making an appearance now. Thatās why Iām scared lol! If it isnāt going accordance to the terror we saw in the drawing or what ever it is called kinda forgot. (Mural just remembered lol) Then imagine what imu will do that we do not know of..like itās a bit off putting.
it's def elbaph
YAYY
"These two are truly.... a pain in my ass, ight i'll pull up"
well Xebec didn't possess the Nidhoggr or Nika fruit, so Imu could use him in their game instead of relying on their own force
Huh? Idk I like things to be cute so I be extra w the reacts , itās a nitro feature
Thereās gonna be so many dragon like things on the screen soon
I think he needs time to prepare for something. I think him sending over some sort of creature to keep them occupied might be the way to go
yeah it's definitely a case of don't celebrate so early
Ho hum, who knows though
Ok thanks , rok helped me
Chap 1177 āa ruler doesnāt dirty his handsā. Chap 1178 āneed to go dirty my hands, byeā
Given how everythingās aligned with Imu talking about this battle dividing the world and now the editor notes this chap Iām only on Imu turning up on Elbaf and nowhere else
Blackbeard didnāt go for the dfs rocks wanted
He went for 2 other dfs gura and yami
Rocks wanted niddhogg and nika
Blackbeard failed
i think that's what it'll be summed up to
Luffy will succeed both Joyboy and Davey Jones will
Well we know nidhogg for sure
Failed as in if he's defeated by Luffy that's alright
no i mean in general, his plan will fail
Luffy is the only reason for why it could succeed
Like not being the king
Why canāt kid fans accept this about kid? Smh
Yami is for subduing the devil
Idk what he could want gura for
Breaking the red line?
Honestly with the way it has been throughout the series
Elbaf is over
Kid and Roger parallel this chapter btw

Just saying
prepare what? I think he just wants to throw hands
I doubt he's going to fail that too after using Luffy
I saw someone say Imu is about to go make a deal with BB š
i don't know Blackbeard just seems like a failure to me
Iād imagine ancient weapon
especially compared to Xebec
He already did that with Davy jones
They needed york for it last time
Nika pose btw
I need Imu to knock out everybody on Elbaf excluding Luffy and Loki
Or else he's a fraud
lol
Ok but not biblu

Yeah biblu goated
Skinny ahh legs
lol no, his powers have something to do with pure evil and innocence. He cannot control those who have no room for evil. Light shines in the dark right? Or some shit lol. Regardless, I believe those two canāt be evil. They love each other too much to go against each other now hehe 
I mean everyone is , to an extent , there can only be one pirate king , and there wonāt be a king of the world soon
if and whatever Imu is gonna do on elbaph is gonna have catastrophic consequences for the powerscaling fandom
Bull's right
Itās a non statement
Rightt
Buggy is right there
Isn't it funny how Imu stored parts of himself on each of his apostles š
True , I always forget about himā¦.
yeah sure but Blackbeard just spells it out more than others, lol
it just feels like he is being gassed up for something which he'll ultimately fail in doing
As every villain
I donāt think itāll make him any less of a final villain at least

i don't care who the final villain is
it's the least important question
for all i could care it should be Buggy, lol
actually it doesn't really matter even if he fails to be the king of the world
I know Iām just saying that wonāt affect his significance or how good his moments will be
Wait what stop
Itās just like an obvious statement to make
Plz tell me that isnāt true
i mean sure
History repeats itself
Imu and BB
that' wld actually make sense considering the narrative portrayal of there shldnt be a single ruler
It hasnāt been outright stated but isnāt the whole irl lore about Davy jones that he interacted with the devil which led to his downfall?
like all the things they will do to remove imu
Buddy not this time around!! BUT I have a feeling BB will fold for imu, or find a way to betray him and take its power instead lol.
this would also be a book move by oda though. Build BB up, but have him be flawed and you introduce another character that seems more fit to be final villain. So then youre shocked when BB is the last battle
What about Akainu and Garling
the devil cursed Davey Jones to the depths of sea
If they team up, itāll be built on shaky ground
Shamrock too. Those the top 5 endgame baddies (as in bad guys lol)
true, though i think that this fits Buggy more
especially now when he has the Cross Guild
āThe man with th4 burn scar appears on a black ship and sinks people with whirlpoolsā
Thereās been like versions of the tale where that was because the devil made a deal with Davy
We are ALL cracking Imu in Gunkoās body
no, i don't think it's Davey Jones lol
as a villain? Look oda has no limits on what BS achievements buggy gets. I even unfortunately have to acknowledge the possibility Buggy becomes PK or some shit like that. But he just has no place being the final villain
i think Davey Jones being cursed to the bottom of the sea is just implying he is dead
Imu
Yeah , also lowkey itās referencing df weakness
davy jones is dead but he also could have literally been cursed to the bottom of the sea
Naw jones still alive
Died that way
I would HATE buggy being the PK
I lowkey forgot, honestly..Iām just gonna have to wait for the truth.
another thing Iām confused about is Davy jones, but we know heās legit now. So the stories r the only thing that we question. And heās actually related to rocks and other ādā clan members if we are gonna go by that. 
@short lantern quote this.
I would too
Heāll be like how jack was at the end of zou
And apparently former king of the world ā¦.lots to unpack there
Pirate King Buggy goes hard as fuck if youāre stupid
i mean he was a pretty threatening villain back in Orange Town, i don't think he couldn't pull it off again all he needs is some flashy new awakening and a haki bloom, lol
it would also be a nice mirror given the series started with Buggy being the first devil fruit user Luffy faced so why not end it with him as well
Man
Ohhh wait. From the first world right? Or you mean back when the 20 kingdoms existed?
Odas gonna do some funny shit that totally ruins the story in the endgame
I just know that the only rightful Luffy's last opponent is koby
Buggyās goal isnāt gonna be PK after a point , itāll go back to being his original goal: king of the world
Woby
The first worldā¦
Laugh all you want
don't sleep on Koby
I forgot to mention thereās another red nosed fella that resembled buggy. He was imortant I forgot who
Rocks mentioned it to imu and imu got mad , I assume thatās from joyboys era
Buggy is a better candidate for being Luffys final opponent than Koby is
Nah dawg orange town is nothing like today. No haki bloom or flashy awakening is allowing Buggy to be a final villain and a challenge for Luffy when hes gonna be as strong or stronger than joyboy.
Buggy could get some great achievements but his achievements never come with him actually growing in strength or character, its just funny stuff. Same way hes a yonko now and hes no stronger than he was in east blue
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Ur hacking my discord
Buggy will get the king of the world literal chair when the chair means nothing anymore

BLUKO GET HIM
Donāt spam fella. Donāt spam.
Wait Idk what happened
He can have the throne when itās just pointless
i don't know man, i feel like Oda could throw us in a turn when it comes to Buggy's development going forward
That's not even the gif I picked
Erm #western-series 
Buggy already said how eos will be he wonāt be kop
Ohhh. I think it goes beyond JoyBoy era
Right doesnāt chopper have a weird coloured nose too
Fuck buggy
No theres just no way to give him that strength boost lol. Buggy can get whatever achievements you want. He can be PK or the head of WG for some foolish reasons. But odas gags with him have never meant he actually gets stronger. Hes not gonna jump from an east blue luffy victim to being a challenge for imu/joyboy level characters
Stupid ass
I said I wanted to be an astronaut when I was 5. This is foreshadowing me being the first man on mars in 2050
Only person to talk in the narrator box 
Thatās how you sound
i see what you mean but i'd still never say never when it comes to this
it's not likely, that i'll agree on
All roads lead to buggy
Luffy vs Shamrock when
The beginning and the end
Buggyās a networking merchant
Evil shanks theory debunked with his existance
Who pinged me?
Me
Never
Too scared
for wut
Quoting
luffy vs shamrock never happening
^
its loki vs shamrock, garling vs shamrock, maybe bb vs shamrock or shanks vs shamrock
Which message?
Usopp ragebaited Imu, that's my goat fr
Man you used to be so fast back in the days
Blackbeard vs Shamrock is way less likely than Shamrock vs Luffy
Ur washed now 
It's possible never say never
i mean Elbaph already has some build up to Luffy facing off against Shamrock, though he was sent back before it could happen
I dont have my vpn turned on all the day
oh that would be cool
Blackbeard has more beef with shamrock than luffy
shamrock is gone, luffy has no clue shamrock was involved
It's not about who has more beef with who
@short lantern
i don't agree, i think he has the most beef with Garling
It's about them crossing paths
if he were to have beef with someone due to elbaf itd be imu or the holy knights currently here
That doesnt disagree with what I said
No way yall r debating about who shanks vs shamrock rn and bb vs shamrocks like
it still is more of a connection between bb and shamrock than luffy and shamrock
well i disagree what he has more beef with Shamrock then Luffy has
Imu bout to pull up
Luffy's interest was peaked when they mentioned someone looking like Shanks pulling off these atrocities
What beef does luffy have with shamrock
Btw imu farts in this chapter
If you guys haven't noticed it
Wym interest? Who is he interested in
yea he puts it off as an evil twin and doesnt care. That doesnt mean he ahs beef with the evil twin
Proof
Shamrock attacking Elbaph and it being thought Shanks
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he was interested cuz theyre saying it was shanks
hes not interested in dude cuz he looks like shanks
Didnāt shamrock already dip tho
Shanks still doomed Luffy by making him think he's a rubber man and not some toon force deity
it's more than Blackbeard has
Shamrock is gone and luffy just pushed it off. Hes not going to develop anything from elbag
Again it's not always about beef, Luffy didn't have any beef with Kizaru or vice versa and they still ended up battling.

i mean they're bound to meet eachother
Bros, what if the world nobles started fighting among themselves hence why the holy land is ruined, they fight for food as the revolutionaries keep them starving. Has anyone thought of that?
I would have to look at what exactly Loki said again, we know by now he doesnt really have a bad relationship with Shanks
Shamrocks dad kills BBs dad. BB is likely to be involved in trying to take down WG. Thats more of a connection and a reason to fight than luffy and shamrock
not really
That's a fart right there
let's agree to disagree here, since i don't see it that way
agenda spread time to get out of here
WGs sworn enemy is Luffy how's that not likely???
He really thought he wld cover it by teleporting
Smh
Did garland really kill Rocks..
Stupid imu
Garling did, yes
I'm telling you guys the world nobles fought among themselves
I dont see how "you look like shanks" is more reason to fight than "your dad killed my dad and youre still supporting that side"
That pfp makes it hella funny
Luffy will fight WG, I dont think its that likely he'll have much interaction with shamrock specifically
@hidden hollow i found your people
90+900 years old btw
well Luffy is also against that side, if we go by that
I dont get it
House is 261 years old
and Luffy will obviously have his attention caught when there's a twin of Shanks on that side, his literal role model has a twin whom they never mentioned to him
Can I c proof? Because I thought it was a group effort.
read the manga
i am sorry, but it's that simple
Wasnāt there an alliance
yea, and hes likely to fight WG. He doesnt have a reason to fight shamrock specifically. BB would have a reason to fight shamrock specifically
Yea, attention caught, not necessarily that it motivates him to fight shamrock
i think Blackbeard would shoot for Garling first
not to mention Imu
No?? Rocks got defeated by Garp and Roger after domi reversi, he died (therefore turned back) and Garling sneaked him on 1hp
Thats fine. Like I said BB wanting to kill garling doesnt mean he wouldnt also want to kill shamrock
Wish Socrates was here to cash out his bet
i think it definitely would motivate an interaction between the two where Shamrocks ideals would probably clash with Luffy's where a fight would insue
Most niggas here will be muted
Shamrocks will catch Luffys attention there's no 2 ways about it, and Shams will obviously be very hostile towards Luffy especially given the fact that he's not only their sworn enemy but a friend of his estranged brother who he despises. Luffys probably going to hit a nerve by comparing the 2 of them and they'll have a bout
yea, just like Luffy has Imu, gorosei, akainu, etc.
Both of them have other enemies. The thing is BB has an actual reason to go for shamrock specifically
ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦. Sneaked him on 1hp.
alright let's agree that Blackbeard and Luffy has an equal chance of going against Shamrock then, let's go halfway for both
an interaction isnt the same as luffy being motivated to target shamrock . Everyone on WG's ideals clash with luffy, so that also wouldnt mean much
Garling did literally that, Xebec was already down and all Garling just snuck up on him and killed him
You know Iād like to see Nami sneak imu on 1hp
I mean I dont agree with that
god must hate you for you to suck this bad at ragebaiting
Yes catch attention, no to giving luffy motivation to target him.
I think BB having his dad killed by shamrocks dad and now having beef with shanks makes more reason for him to fight shamrock than the idea that maybe luffy will see shamrock and maybe the stars will align for them to have a clash
Remember the one and only dragon slayer
lol Iām just saying if garland snuck to kill Rocks, Iām hoping the Ussup or someone that just by stands gets the credit too
Pls don't be so rude
We made a bet about shanks beating Loki unfairly but it still hasn't been resolved
#RedHair #ChildOfDestiny
Imu devil reveal in a couple chapters gonna be phenomenal
Who made that..
This is enough One Piece discord for today goodbye good night and farewell everyone
I did today
Why..
I made this too
usopp fans have created their own version of the manga
This is heat
Idk I think shanks won fair and square
This was already theorized..
Also where all the also manga regulars at
Ty come again..
to see my hg fangirl over it and to make Usopp haters mad as hell
Iām not hating on ussup..Iām just hating on Garland
I'm not disagreeing with you, I too think Blackbeards motives to battle Shamrock are more than Luffys. But you don't always need to hold a grudge to fight someone, the 2 of them interacting is a guarantee of a fight occuring solely due to the fact that they stand against the others way.
Garland
We invaded them
Also I didn't say you hated on Usopp just the other day I was arguing with Usopp haters and yeah
Oh boyā¦
Well, I canāt hate ussup fan boys. We deserve some Ussup cute fights eventually.
If Oda doesnāt make Imu first time touching down be like the devil itself rising with the apocalypse I might crash out
I need a kaido x1000
Lol real^
if he gets anything less than what the elders got we riot
I need to see hell on earth 
If he doesn't knock out Zoro and Sanji with his conq I'm calling him a fraud
half the strawhats at the mere sight shall faint
lol no one is doing that
Not half all except for Luffy and loki
Yea you dont always need a grudge to fight someone, but when the circumstances of the future arcs have not been laid out, you cant go via vicinity much. I think BB will have his chance to see WG just the same as luffy. So if both will be in a fight vs WG, I see more reason for BB to end up fighting shamrock than luffy.
Luffy could too, but at most I would see that as a scuffle. And no its rlly not a guarantee they fight, you dont know that if they do ever see each other that there wouldnt just be other people to fight shamrock instead. Either way thats not like a big battle for luffy imo, whereas I could even see BB killing shamrock
No one except Imu
I agree
Jarul - āAs the Sun God dims the Devil rises once again and with him came Pandemoniumā
imu will mop the floor with luffy and loki
Since imu is supposedly the worlds strongestā- ACTUALLY WAIT
What if imu is actually weak?
considering joyboys haki couldnt knock out vice admirals, no CoC is ever knocking out people relatively strong
And is only using that dark power or dark magic to make him strong?
will Imu kill anyone in Elbaf?
only if gege takes over
Uhhh
Are we appreciating biblu yet?
Idk he couldnāt even get Loki and Luffy to go against each other
It did knock out the vice admirals or was that an anime only thing?
These next chapters will really determine where Imu will be placed amongst the greats 
don't think all of them tho
Youāll never knowā¦
Itās one of those moments
fraudwatch
You guys have extremely high hopes for imu..r u guys bored with luffy and Loki already?

If Imu somehow losses I might geniunely drop One Piece
Time to speed run the king of the world 
must be anime only
I feel like Oda still wonāt show all of imu to us.
We need the story to be prolonged and Luffy needs to be an underdog that's when he shines best
truth nuke above
Real ones know heās a stepping stone
im tired of seeing Luffy win
Jail Luffy 
Luffy always wins but we need to see him struggle when he wins not pass out from g5 š
Itāll be fine without imu , itās been fine for 900 chapters before him 
Hmā¦.
Pretty sure it knocked out some vice admirals in the manga
shiki been stepped on a lot so you'd know it
Marineford... Mary Geoise?
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Yeah glex prove me right š„š£ļø
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He was never a stepping stone tho , but a side attraction
Weāve seen Luffy struggle a lot thoā¦isnāt it time maybe he can work things out easily? Or do u all prefer him to be sufferable
Yeah I need luffy to have yonko dominance
its okay we are getting a shiki focused arc in Yano
Kind of sick of the other way around all the time
Luffy needs to dominate this late in the story
I prefer him to be miserable he's basically the Peter Parker of my anime
And his threats are world level now
yano discussion
Yano arc is where Zoro finally gets a second flashback
Yano what I mean
Akainu is from yano
lano
everything that sucked about Wano will be corrected in Yano
Yano is basically live action wano then
This joke has layers
This is what I was thinking of. But I guess it shows doll later knocked out, so yea I guess joyboy can knock out some vice admirals
Wano is the polar opposite of Lano
So nothing will be corrected in yano?
Imu needs to surpass this and knock out Zoro & Sanji
now this wont happen
He needs to knock out everyone on elbaf except Luffy and Loki
Thatās never happening
Nah, thats too much
It'll be really cool if it does. If it doesn't happen I'm calling him a fraud
That guy holds a sword and swings it bro there's no way he survives an ancient gods haki surge
ATP something above that statusā¦but since imu seems to be of an extremely high power scale, people want a different outcome..although it seems weāve reached a specific power scale of Luffyās. Unless it grows beyond this point then mb. 
Saying luffy always winning but, heās winning his own battle, whatās wrong with that? Not the king of the world yet. There are many other things he yet knows of, and many other threats than imu lol. 
Just call him a fraud then
No he hasn't done anything fraudulent yet. Maybe incompetent but not fraudulent
Zoro sanji both are having insane will power
SUPAHH POWAHHHH
Relatively but when you compare them to the likes of Joyboy they barely got shit
Not really
so we all agree elbaf will fail right
The stakes for me atp is the fate of the world and who gets to control its future , I kinda wish Luffy never had his old man powered down mode because I want more yonko dominance
Even joyboy's haki won't knock them down be fr
the raid will fail 2.0
Imu > Joyboy
Plus Zoro is smoker lvl and Joyboys haki knocked out Smokers peers so I ig Joyboys haki knocks out Zoro š¬
Doesn't matter getting conq haki knockout is literally being treated like fodder compared to the opponent
Crack smoking type of post
IS ZORO NOT A FODDER COMPARED TO IMU????
No???
He can't beat that Imu sprout let alone his physical body
So far everyone's convinced Elbaf will fail/Imu will win, but no one wants to tell me confidently what that means, like what? Imu takes all the giant kids, KO's Luffy, Loki and the rest without any major character deaths? doesn't seem satisfying
Luffy is the new dawn, so basically heās the one who can but imu kinda doesnāt know that. (I think) thus why only needs to make an appearance since history isnāt repeating itself. And in kinda confused by the old man thing, do you mean Garp? And wym by more yonko dominance? Is that the āmore luffy winningā term? Lol 
ITS ABOJT WILL POWAH
Who inherited Socrates bets
You think no?
Zoro has CoC lmao nobody with coc is getting knocked out by CoC
People forgetting Loki and Luffy did 0 damage
To a projection
Not a real body
Yo this chapter was lowkey short is there break next week??
I doubt the real mu gets frozen
A baloon
I donāt think so
This chapter was just a bit weird
Something about regeneration makes people see them weak, people need to think to understand it which lacks in op fandom
No, itās gonku that froze
Kaido + Rocks + Roger + Whitebeard + Big Mom + Garp all got fodderized when they attacked Imus sprout on God Valley. They couldn't deal damage to him and the strongest one of them feel victim to Imus Domi Reversi.
All those mentioned characters are stronger than Zoro and even they don't compare to Imu.
PLS ITS GUNKO
What ever lmao blame auto correct
No
Imus will set this precedent
He could get frozen , but yeah it probably wouldnāt contain him regardless
š
Even if he gets frozen he breaks out of it easily
Pfft
Or she
You just wanna call imu a fraud
No
Ur setting urself for it
Maybe
I know I am 
Cross Guold will go to elbaph and buggy will save gaban
Plot twist imu falls in love w luffy and boa beats imu up
loki and luffy prolly woulda won, but thats cuz DR doesnt work on them
Fraudmu
if DR doesnt work on them cuz theyre strong then theyre just tuff
but DR maybe just doesnt work due to some matchup problem
Im ready for imu real body to show more abilities
DR spam in projection body is done
If Imu turns out to be a df user I'm gonna be disappointed
Can't deal damage isn't equal to fodder, zoro and sanji have come a long way to be treated as such even by imu
Rightā¦I wonder why hmā¦
Imu gonna be a user of the original power system
Iām sure heās a df user , but with a mythical zoan that completely took over its user
that shits gonna be a battle of attrition
sure? youre in for a surprise
Sanji got knocked down by Saturn's haki what makes you think he survives Imus?
Rate my votes
Iām always ready for a good surprise
Nice
It would repeat the second world from the mural
Vote for biblu plsš¤
Hope oda does this
Imu is a god, doesnt really on fruits same way OG nika didnt have a fruit
Whatās this for? Lol
The global poll
Check pins
Weāve seen regular zoan take over of bodies in impel down , we see luffy āuncontrollable laughā in mythical zoan , I just think itās headed there right now , but Iām fine with a fun subversion
OHHHHH that would be interesting
Cora is a good one, I will not comment on the rest.
Ohā¦not interested but good luck 
Luffys laughs are controllable he's not getting taken over
Wow you hate Tama??
tama is evil
I hate York
He didn't, getting damaged isn't passing out
zoan takeover is possible and all its just not as interesting as going in depth with the original power system
Marguerite vote is peak asf
How do you know OG Nika didnāt have a fruit?
And maybe imu WAS originally a god , the same way ratatoskr was originally a squirrel (but probably a mythical zoan now)
cuz the fruit is based on him
Nah he is the Devil not a god
I mean
First era had actual mythical beings , before they turned into DF, imo
in this context same thing. There would just be a type of entity that has powers without needing fruits
my gut feeling tells me that Imu is just some chud who got lucky with power
https://x.com/i/status/2037545187065593980
@digital spear
First era had frauds without power fruits
Haki merchants most likely
CG to elbaph 
Hmā¦what if he ate a regular fruit , and the will goes through generation to generation? And luffy was able to awaken the will of the past user within the fruit? And it applies to each that had a high significance or some shit? 
Yea I think the same thing, Imu would just be one of them. its probably not just some random person eating the imu fruit
Even then it wouldnāt be a random person , in my belief , it would have been one of those 20 kings whoās name we already know āNerona imuā
Ohhh maybe.
that would mean that person is the same imu
What we know as imu right now could have had a different name in the first era
I donāt think thereās a different imu..
Besides ānerona imuā who could be a 20 king
but youre saying the fruit has taken over. If the fruit takes over and whatnot, it'd be calling itself its original name
I never said he passed out, but this clearly wasn't a devil fruit ability or a physical strike. Pretty sure the anime clarified it too by demonstrating how Sanji wasn't hit physically.
In the first era heās nerona
This u donāt believe it tho? Or do u think itās someone else pretending?
I think itās faking it like faking the empty throne , using the name of nerona imu king , but still being a devil underneath
Then who could it be lol
Or taking over a body
The original mythical entity turned into a fruit , its will was so strong that nerona imu , when they ate this fruit , was completely taken over by it
Thatās what I believe for now
I think Imu is an alien dragon parasite
I think its the grimoire
I mean isn't that all a devil fruit is kinda
From space!
At least zoans
U guys r better than Oda w DF atp
Yea he got damaged and didn't get knocked down, so? The point is still the same, no conq could take down people of current sanji and zoro level
Yes he better be from space and not Canadian or Mexican lmao
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Iām crying
Not that anything is wrong with ether lmao
Iām sorry but why tf Canadians catching a stray
Lol no it's just the countries that are closest to mine so they would be the most common foreign " aliens"
End game villain being an alien, how original š
Omg wait maybe youāre cooking w thisā¦..
He literally got knocked down I think you're confusing knocked down for knocked out. I'm not implying he lost his consciousness I'm telling you Saturn's haki was unbearable to Sanji to an extent. Now compare Saturn to Imu whos practically 10 times if not 100 times stronger than him. A conquers haki blast from Imu would knock Sanji put theoretically since Sanji struggled with Saturns haki.
This is also something is subscribe too
oda gave up on being original a long time ago
Yea I dont see it. If oda is gonna make the first world have some different power system anyway and he has the opportunity to have Imu just have original abilites from back then, I would consider it pretty lame to instead have imu just be another fruit now.
Plus, with how the gorosei transformations were introduced, they arent using fruits either, so I dont think imu is
I think the energy that the first world dove into the earth for was hell energy
So some of the fruits can be entities that end up as a fruit or some, and depending on the user they can have control or not etc hmge
and that's imu's origins
I mean he does like dragon baaaaaaaall
Hell energy!?!? Dooom activated!!!
Itās just weird to me how we got the name nerona imu early on in imus introduction despite not even having a clear image of him yet , my brain is making me think thatās not their original name
And then you have Luffy uncontrolled laughing and impel down zoans, my brain is forcing to combine all these elements together lol
if It was just revealed now, you'd be correct. but we've known about moon people and lore for hundreds of chapters now. so it was easy to make a conclusion based on that alone
joel
I'm banking on this being the origins of a lot of goings on in the OP world
Koby š¤®
Oh shit, I didn't even think of dragon ball. I thought of the other one no wait there is another one too, wait there are 3 apart from dragon ball 
Woby
ah i need to vote koby eventually
No you don't
I still find it so weird that it looks like wano factories but yeah the fuzzy power. Is wweeieerdd
Now youāre confusing me, what else are you thinking then? It seems you have something to say about Luffyās awakening? And what about the impel down zoans? I lowkey miss that arc lol. It was one of my favs. We need to see Luffy have a rough battle and get stronger through it again. 
Waste of a vote
You know he's makin it to the top 100
Buffy make sure you vote for biblu soon
I'll eventually vote for a dead elephant man and a man low diffed by nami
I got a silver biblu card today
I just mentioned all the things again that made me come to that conclusion, basically that zoans have wills and some wills could completely take over , and maybe thatās imu too
but...he's the mvp....
Ok tf is up w u and this biblu and the whole personification of something random u made up????
of this chapter
i'm the mvp
we don't know that yet
I do
he ate the books
Chill on there it was a collective decision
Imuās bitchass got schooled
Made by me , fronsen and I and biblu
The name isnāt even real..
Is ur name real?
Imu will do the schooling next chapter. 
I might as well believe Boa will have kids w Luffy atp and change my name to boa x Luffy for ever
Lol yeah ik some of those lmao
A person who thinks all the time
him struggling to move in frozen state, dipping, then deciding nahhh I can't let this shit slide was funny asf
So I think this might give us a chance for other people to how uo
i still wonder about the people going down. it's hard not to see halos on top of their heads.
Youāve made me c a new light. I believe Buggy is related to Imu.
I think bb is showing up tbh
aokiji upscale btw
ok serious talk
Anytimeš©·
It has such different in significant if they are gaining or losing them ! I love that mural so many mysteries
This nigga will forever be a student
Yep and the owl will die
he doesn't. he's just really strong
Imucel soon
Boa x Luffy isn't real
Pause.
I hope it isnāt, so that boa can be with Law.
Because heās a really great doctor 
Please no
Boa will die
Biblu lives on forever
In my heart
I hope so, so that we can have uhmā¦a new queen 
Yamato!!
King you mean

Oh yeah I forgot about that
What's the 2nd img
oda made it for volume 104
imu's shape
cringe
can you spare a day for biblu
good job, brother. oda hates you and usopp though, sadly
But doesnāt that look like nami
Oda loves me and he loves Usopp actually
Oda loves usopp and me
I have been too right for him to hate me
Oh here we go
i believe in usopp but i dont like him that much
And Oda loves boa Hancock.
KIDDING. Usopp will experience a great renaissance soon. Never lose hope, brothers and sisters!!
this is bilbo
Hopium
Real
NOO
because it is nami
Now Iām hungry

So r u tryna say Imu will take over nami body?
That is his daughter, he wont be taking over, he will be taking her away
I'm not saying anything lol
Pause maybe nami related to imu 
I would be surprised if it happened soon though, that doesnt make any sense
nami doesn't have blue hair shes safe
its too early
the resemblance between imu's plankton shape and the demon shape stood out to me
oda did pixel art once?
yeah
I forgor imu has a fetish for blue hair
@ashen perch
no
Hope to see rocks in multiple top 5 now that botters are destroyed

Why not hello ignore the ppl that donāt take it seriously, Iām here to listen
me interested 
sorry, all my votes go to Robin or Usopp, mostly Usopp because Robin will be top 6 easily
fetish is putting it lightly when it goes on for 800 years lol
Actual freak
My boy buggy better keep his guard up

sorry, maybe I will vote for BIblio when my theory on him is perfectly correct
until then, nothing
When do we get poll updates
we can't give votes to LA Robin 
What's the theory on biblu
Every Monday
He's in heaven realm?
Ughhh
And tp
same time as the official chapter drops
Pauseā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦now buggy making me feel curious about the blue haired ppl.
rokayarokayarokaya, did you see Kidd doing the Nika pose in the cover story? What did Oda mean by this????????
Kid is jika
I think he teleported the books to the Heaven Realm, and he will also teleport the crew away to Heaven Realm when they are about to be exterminated by Imu. He is a Joyboy ally, possibly even a crewmate, possibly even the Robin of Joyboy's crew....
so out of all the SHs, nami is the only one with no greater relevance in the OP world beyond the straw hats, whether through notable heritage (luffy, zoro, usopp, sanji, franky), special powers (luffy, chopper) or prior story/reputation (robin, brook, jinbe)?
I canāt believe shuron actually predicted Kidd showing up in this chapter
Holy moly
I am jumping like 10 steps ahead but thats the fun of it
translation: Urogue soon
Who really b making these šššš
Even if one of these comes true
I think you gotta work on your Arsalese Buffy
I actually agree
When is strong world part 2
It wld be a major biblu win
it's ok. you'll be wrong anyways. every elbaf theory here has been wrong so far
thats not true
I was also wondering where he went and It makes the most sense for him to head up to the Astral realm
The one place we havent seen
not true buffy I knew imu was going to fart in this arc , he actually did
I have been right on a lot of things, like these specific chapters that I dubbed the ''Imu Chapters'' before they even happened
Jesus can verify
Omg this is amazing, I never thought about the owl being of importance.
and I mean the user
Nika? Bro it was a Roger parallel
Its both!!
this upscales Roger
Jika and pk foreshadows
law kid and luffy all got one aspect of roger
Is this real
nodes
yall reckon urouge is in the heaven realm?
KID 4 PK IS HAPPENING
homeland theory in shambles. brook sends imu back in shambles, and domi reversi on luffy or loki in shambles. we suck at this shit.
What aspect did law get
his sickness
Ik but this is really funny
And what aspect did kid get
uhh he'll become pirate king
The cover story
1178-1187, these chapters will in the volume 116, 16 is Imu's number, I - 1, Mu - 6. Its very simple @proper egret
idk what luffy got, his hard headedness or something
I was right tho

I been knew the mural was right and they wonāt fight like wym
Iuffy got VOAT
Kid slander is so weak. This was perfect set up for someone to say ādeadā
you always are buddy (I don't know what you mean)
considering everyone on the planet isnt here i would assume not
Plz Iām confused already
Aināt surprising, yall keep banning the funniest users
I mean we have time
i would definitely be shocked if the final war just happened now
Slander kidd so his comeback looks 10x better šš¾
This chapter was so boring that Iāve been yapping here for hours about the interesting things lol
It'd be so weird for imu to pull up now maybe he's not the final villain
I think Oda emphasised on him during this big moment here for a reason, he is about to play a very major role and whatever he did to save the books will be key in saving the crew too. Saul said that he heard the owl has been around for centuries atleast, and I am thinking he's going to be from the Void Century
Well maybe just part 1? Like Imu coming down will ether take time or I would guess it's haki would shake the earth and alert any one on the planet
well we need to emphasize their threat somehow
@hazy turret why is kid running away from the bull, can't he just one tap it!????is kid dumb???
its simple smh, 16 is literally Imu in Japanese
I donāt think he is, I certainly do think bb is tho
Hks being bums, Imu vs Loki and Luffy having no winner, the big conflict being wrapped up once the 4 got up quickly
would this mean the straw hats were saved two arcs in a row?
That is not true, @formal wagon is still around
Isn't this a great opportunity for BB to take out Imu
the SHs are saved every arc
Yes but why does that matter 
the next year of the ox is in 2033, foreshadowing kid's return then
Like Imu is going in person
Dolfius a new Attendees to the heaven realm has appeared
first two for sure. the last one i don't know 'cause with imu's physical form appearing soon a new big conflict may emerge
Heās on an island with no metal š
Biblo
because the current set of chapters willl be in Volume 116. I said this would be a big volume for Imu and it looks like we are about get a full design reveal here
Biblu
Strawhats became buncha frauds as soon as they became a yonko crew
Biblo
im not allowing biblo in
Bro kidd is physically strong enough to toss that mf
Biblu
The big conflict is over
He doin the roger pose tho

Imu also ain't showing up to elbaf
but we may be getting a bigger conflict? or you think not?
Gol D Kidd
But wld you allow biblu in?
i would allow biblu yes
what would stop imu from appearing?
This is trueā¦was throwing those massive blocks with one arm in udon
Thereās always that 1 person lol
Yay
I was thinking what will he do if imu just straight up eats his metal attacks like he ate sabos fire
Kidd got ox symbolism? š
pasta, are you thinking Elbaf is over, or only that conflict?
!sorry
one of kid's attacks was a giant bull after all
Advanced conq haki, trust
Hmā¦.
Mane of jinbei dont get his large ass out the way
Elbaf only starting
Imu literally gonna run it back next chapter
the sun
FMI and PH they handled I suppose. Dressrosa had Fujitora basically help them escape, Zou had Zunesha, WCI had Germa and Sun Pirates. Wano had Shanks. Egghead had Joyboy's Haki Knot. The crew cant ever do it alone
His animal counterpart is a bull according to Oda
If I'm right about Imu noy coming to elbaf. We are gonna be pretty over with elbaf
Hot take: eustass took the books. He reads when he's sad
Imu pulling up in his black blob form
good take
Ohhhh ok ok
He threw full dragon Kaido and people kinda just glossed over it lol
the concept of kid reading
Interesting š¤ might have to research that shit later
Shinjiru
oh. I hope not. this arc has been....not the most exciting
It's been pretty great
A fighting Bull specifically
Believe it or not, your precious little Robin isnāt the only one who knows what a book is LARSAL
the concept of arsal saying the concept
theres a 0% chance of this Pasta lets be real
Huh
you know why Imu doesn't step out?
I am being real
It has nice lore surrounding it, but the GKs were quite unintersting as villains and the stakes, while there, never really moved me
smellbaf more like
That is too be expected of the HKs
watch Imu fold
has to go to elbaf cause he couldn't make it to the coast of vira
Why does he talk like Rolf from Ed Edd n Eddy
Whatās that
If he grabs uranus or some shit heās a hoe and i dont wanna hear shit else
and usopp being kind of barely there in this arc is another burn from oda. perhaps he plans to make up for it, but it may be a "too little too late situation"
what if imu is going to their vacation home in vira cause this stressed them out
Imu is going to lodestar
I dont think Kid could even name a book honestly
usopp got his one allotted cool moment


