also-manga

[trim lily]

for now

[grand flower]

I don’t ever see Yall complain I’m about how Oda established relief then undercut it for tension

[leaden rivet]

Death serves a strong narrative purpose, him dying after getting off his shitty speech would’ve been a perfect ending to that WG sympathizer

[grand flower]

But doing the inverse is “cheating”

[trim lily]

but turns out we'll have a clone up and running soon enough! wahoo!

[leaden rivet]

But noooo

[grand flower]

As usual Yall won’t address that tho lol

[trim lily]

probably not

i can only speak on how i feel

[hot cairn]

I think the clone thing that Lilith has is just a young robot thing, not the same Stella

If I remember correctly

[grand flower]

You should be more willing to turn the lens on your own thought processes

And reevaluate how you feel if WHY you feel that way was flawed

[trim lily]

nope a perfect clone

granted a bit outdated

[grand flower]

If you’re willing to accept that OP will establish relief for you and then snatch it away to make your tension stronger

[trim lily]

but i dont feel that way

[grand flower]

Then why is it that OP canr establish tension in order to deflate it and increase your relief

[leaden rivet]

It feels like it deflates a lot of the scenes previous, like Luffy crying, Zoro telling him to stop being a pussy, the race to save Vegapunk, Kizaru trying not to kill his friend

[grand flower]

That’s fine tbh

But you guys don’t really get into how the way Oda wrote it isn’t conducive to feeling that way in general

Becausw it can’t be “you can’t write ABC then yank it away for the opposite”

Like I said, I know you’re willing to accept the story doint that the myriad of other times it does

[hot cairn]

he says it was the him that came there 20 years ago so it’s a younger version no?

[grand flower]

You don’t go “why trust a friendship when Oda has written a friendship just for betrayal”

[trim lily]

yeah but its a real clone of the original stella, not just a robot

[grand flower]

So why these standards for death specifically

[inner agate]

Its bad because if any character can miraculously come back from anything then it removes the stakes

[grand flower]

I think the reason I don’t understand is that all this sanctity around death is exactly why we write stories about cheating death in tje first place

[trim lily]

well death is a much bigger deal

[grand flower]

Ans that’s when you can remember that they shot yasui in the face

[leaden rivet]

Oh boy are we going to have a tension discussion

[grand flower]

And that Saturn turned into a skeleton

And Absalom is dead

And Akainu blew aces back out

[formal wagon]

yeah

[grand flower]

Lotta As

[leaden rivet]

Let’s finish this off with a final villain debate just for good times sake

[inner agate]

Those are a couple examples

[trim lily]

the tension of a mass on a rope is given by its mass, gravity and kinetic movement

[formal wagon]

example

[grand flower]

The fact that it’s such a big deal is exactly why we do this

[hot cairn]

fair enough

[grand flower]

We write stories where desth isn’t absolute and final because that’s not an option IRL

Death doesnt need to be revered

[leaden rivet]

I have to take physics in the summer so I’ll tell my professor someone on discord taught me this

[grand flower]

Authors are allowed to undermine it

That’s kinda the entire premise of stories

It’s why everybody dies in the slasher flick except the final girl despite the terrible odds

[inner agate]

Oda just lets characters live without an actual explanation how

[hot cairn]

oh we talking final villain? Lets gooo

[inner agate]

One of the only good examples was pekoms and his turtle shell

[leaden rivet]

Imu is mid, and ugly and an incel. And no one likes him. Blackbeard better.

[trim lily]

they can but it wont always be received well depending on how they do so

and the way oda has done it hasnt landed for me

[leaden rivet]

Is the final villain you want someone who got cucked by joyboy?

[grand flower]

Okay can you elaborate on that?

[dark nymph]

Cuckmu

[trim lily]

i dont think i can lol, not in a satisfying way anyway

[inner agate]

theyre miracles 🥺🥺

[grand flower]

Yea

[hot cairn]

I like Blackbeard better than Imu 100%, hes my favorite non strawhat character but I can see the Imu potential

[grand flower]

OP is about miracles

[blazing depot]

Finally some good news, crunchyroll removed their obviously AI show descriptions

[grand flower]

You can’t evaluate this convo without tbh

The premise of contention is mostly that Oda doesn’t follow thru with the tension a death scene makes you feel

My challenge to that is that tension and relief always go hand in hand

Whether it’s tension by depriving relief or relief by undoing tension

So why is that Oda can’t do the latter with desth

[leaden rivet]

Imu is a virgin. Is that who you want your final villain to truly be?

[grand flower]

I’ve never seen a good reason to why that’s off limits

[leaden rivet]

Is this who you want representing you?

Say it ain’t so

[inner agate]

so youre hyped for a final war where 99% of characters survive through miracles and there being no real stakes cool

[grand flower]

At least Dolfius touched on something interesting tho

By saying it’s the way it’s done

For once, it’s not just “this is something Oda can’t do”

But a lotta folk balk when it gets to that part

[grand flower]

Uh yeah

[hot cairn]

LMAOO

[grand flower]

I tune into OP to see how Luffy is gonna win this time

OP has never asked me to question IF theyll win

[hot cairn]

I don’t like the idea of Imu being an incel

[grand flower]

OP is basically a bed time story lol

[hot cairn]

I hope he wants Vivi for something else

[hot cairn]

If I have to choose, I’m team Blackbeard

But I’m 50/50 on who it is

Luffy defeating them both anyway

[leaden rivet]

You’re on the right side of things

[hot cairn]

I’m excited to see Luffy meet Imu this arc

[red lagoon]

SABAODY arhciaolegri

[grand flower]

You sure wish

[red lagoon]

Archipelago

[leaden rivet]

It’ll be just Imu constantly calling him Nika and Luffy being hella co fused and then trying to punch him

[grand flower]

Not even because the reveal that Kuma saved them undercuts that

It just reinforces the idea

Somehow, someway, something will happen for them

[red lagoon]

I guess true

[grand flower]

Something will come in clutch

That’s why MF is so effective

Sabaody to AL to ID is a bunch of close calls and miraculous pull thrus

[red lagoon]

I mean that’s for like every shonen anime tho

[grand flower]

Like Luffy ans teach both woukd have died in Impel Down if the other hadnt decided to come that day on pure blind luck

[torn kite]

You know what’s crazy at this point sommers has interacted with every straw hat, except Sanji

[grand flower]

Because MF is meant to cut all that down with Ace dying

[grand flower]

Not really

Berserk, attack on titan, claymore

There’s a lot of bleak shonen where grim and bad shit just happen and it sticks

That’s not what OP is going for, it’s never been a good metric to use

[hot cairn]

you aint ready my guy

[grand flower]

The final war being a bunch of feel good victories for the good guys and miracles?n

I wouldn’t bat an eye

I’d have dropped OP ages ago if that was the case

[hot cairn]

that’ll be fun, seeing Luffy not give a shit about Joyboy/Nika

[hot cairn]

The final war has so much potential man

I’m so excited

[grand flower]

That’s true

But if anyone is expecting it to become the grim dark seines where death is finally grauitious

[red lagoon]

Beserk is seinen I swear

[leaden rivet]

Imu being the person to actually explain what Nika is truly to Luffy is kinda funny

[grand flower]

I assume drank river water as a kid

[hot cairn]

I don’t think anyone important will die in the final war

I’m not expecting those kind of things

from Oda

Oda likes his big parties

[grand flower]

Death will be the same as it always has been in O0

It’ll happen when it’s purposeful

When a survival has purpose, that’ll happen instead

[red lagoon]

Ppl will die but I highly doubt it would be anyone that u couldn’t see dying

[grand flower]

The biggest flaw in the complaints is they don’t acknowledge the purpose of the survivals

[hot cairn]

I hope after that interaction Imu stops calling Luffy “Joyboy”

[grand flower]

Or how the survivals complement the stories that happen in

[red lagoon]

Whenever imu calls Luffy Luffy that means they have acknowledged him as a real threat

[grand flower]

You cannot tell me that pounds survival is bad writing when it happens with Bege, the other symbol of good parenting in WCI, and comes after Pound cements himself as a paragon of good parenting

Pound just doesnt just survive to survive

There is a purpose

[clever idol]

Every death will be important bcuz it will likely push the story forward as they tend to do. It doesnt matter if theyre what we would consider a major play or not. Op is about everyong giving their all in the best way they can. This is the sentiment behind roger's words to pedro. Its why someone like even mr 3 can be pivotal in marineford.

[thick mango]

I always wanted bb to drown. That's part of why kids probably alive. The one and only df drown death is for bb

[clever idol]

Or he explodes

[grand flower]

Either drown or trapped underwater forever

[clever idol]

Kaido came very close to exploding in wano

[hot cairn]

yep, thats what I want

[hot cairn]

that’s true

[lofty fern]

I could see him still calling him that, though maybe only when he takes him seriously. Like Imu called Rocks just "Rocks" when he didn't care about him. But started to call him "Davy" when he finally took him seriously.

[lofty fern]

I'm sure Imu could grant him that. I always pictured Imu going out like one of the villains in YYH, but with water instead of being stuck in an illusion for all eternity.

[grand flower]

Be a good way to seal his power away if he’s a DF user

[heady lava]

nobody dies in op

[pallid niche]

Imu tends to refer to Luffy as Joyboy tho

[pallid niche]

disagree

[grand flower]

People are bound to die but idk if it’ll be a bloodbath

[unkempt sable]

What’s the likelihood of everyone getting gear 5 in the final battle

[trim lily]

non zero

if imu can flip into black pieces then there’s a genuine chance luffy might be able to flip people (back) into white pieces

nikafied holy knights soon

[wraith mantle]

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One Piece Queens and Princesses

X · Mar 1, 2026, 10:52 PM

[grand flower]

Might be more like Bonney

But maybe Luffy will rubberize his allies at some point

Like I can see a huge lightning bolt recklessly shot from Loki threatening the crew

Luffy rubberizes them then yells at Loki

[keen quiver]

Everyone keeps wanting this to happen so badly

Makes me wonder who even started that

[thick mango]

hes the devil fruit guy and the big devil fruit weakness never is the thing to defeat/kill someone as far as i can remember. like yeah it comes up but i dont think theres anyone whos final defeat is the result of devil fruit weakness

[lofty fern]

Loki's a queen/princess?

[scarlet nacelle]

also with his ties to davy jones it also relates back to that

you know, going to davy jones' locker

[lofty fern]

Oda did by constantly mentioning that BB is a DF merchant and has put all his stock in DFs, and then mentioning that that will just make them all anchors in the sea. Foreshadowing

[keen quiver]

Maybe

But he's never said he's a df merchant

Everyone is in this series if thats the case

The df merchant allegations just fall apart

When the strongest people in this series are all df merchants

Pretty it

Like it could be foreshadowing

[scarlet nacelle]

i wonder if BB is planning around the niddhogg fruit?

[keen quiver]

But law saying this before he gets folded like a lawn chair

Is hilarious

His entire crew are useless

[keen quiver]

Doubt it

I don't think thats the zoan teach is getting

[scarlet nacelle]

i realize he most likely won't take it himself

but aside from that

its very important to imu's takedown apparently

so does bb have any idea what to do with the fruit's current user?

[keen quiver]

It was part of xebecs plan

But we have no idea if it was tweaked

Teach got the gura

And I doubt it was one of the 2 fruits rocks wanted

Considering he was gonna have harald eat nidhogg

Our only guess with the other fruit is that it was the yami fruit

Which means teach already has whatever he needs to bypass immortality

If its df based

[keen quiver]

Just gonna have to wait what zoan he gets

But I'm not putting money on nidhogg currently

[scarlet nacelle]

i already went on about my gripes with the fruit in the past so i don't feel about talking about them again rn

[keen quiver]

You got issues with yami fruit ?

[scarlet nacelle]

no the nidhogg

[keen quiver]

I'm hoping oda doesnt pull a nika

And ends up renaming the darkness fruit

[formal wagon]

what would it be renamed

[keen quiver]

I got no clue but I'm guessing some mythical god

Which would make me question why the wg fumbled getting 3 important fruits

For 800 years

[tough igloo]

i feel like everytime we say “ i hope Oda doesn’t “ he always does 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[keen quiver]

"Where is davy jones fruit !?"
"His descendant has it great one."

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-i-guess-bro-bro-what-whatever-you-say-gif-16572066316579867256

[keen quiver]

Yeah I know this is very likely

But I hope not

Oda already gave teach davy jones stocks

And parallel's indirectly via davy jones and joyboy

😭

Low top 5 trippiest lore drops last year

[dense rapids]

Man I wanted sbs today guess it’s Tony

[ionic palm]

all Im getting from the nidhoggr and nika connection is that while they were enemies(?)/rivals(?) in presumably the Void Century, over 800 years later, they’ll be on the same side

somewhat poetic

[scarlet nacelle]

prolly got a personal beef which they set aside because of imu's presence

[civic dust]

I think BB is just leavin it up to fate for Loki to end up fighting imu with him. Rocks and there for BB would know that it has to be an ancient giant to eat it for it to get the full effects and BB would probably have known loki has it when he went out to sea

[frigid gulch]

We get the design of the admiral Rocks killed

[civic dust]

if there is any fruit that oda would do it to it would be that fruit. tho i think BB will get imus fruit as his zoan

[frigid gulch]

[lofty fern]

Its different when his whole thing is going around searching for DFs for his entire crew and that's his biggest shtick. It's also different since Oda calls so much attention to it

[lofty fern]

It would be worse in his hands, as Rocks said. Though maybe BB hasn't considered that

[lofty fern]

You just want several questions about young Shakky and Gloriosa's bra size?

[lofty fern]

I would say that BB might not know everything that Rocks knew, and vice versa. BB seems to have 0 interest in the giants, has never even mentioned them, something that Rocks knew was crucial. He's never mentioned Loki or any of the giants at all. And we have to remember that BB might be working on partial information that he maybe got from his mom. Similar to Rocks, BB has holes in his knowledge, though he has different kinds of holes.

[cosmic hamlet]

Elbaf cracked top 10.

Didn't realise egghead is 4th 👀

[lofty fern]

Top 10 for what? Longest arcs?

[cosmic hamlet]

Yes, the column to the right shows number of chapters

[formal wagon]

crazy this arc is already at 50

[lofty fern]

I can see it getting maybe to 4th place

or 5th

[woven talon]

Water 7 and Eneis lobby not being counted as one arc is silly

[lofty fern]

Depends on what direction Oda takes here

[ruby moat]

right

[woven talon]

They share the same villains , objectives, side characters and themes

[dense rapids]

[lofty fern]

They're separate arcs just closely connected. It's like how Fellowship of the Ring and Two Towers and Return of the King are all separate arcs of one saga.

[woven talon]

That’s not how arcs work

[lofty fern]

It can be...there doesn't need to be a huge amount of seperation between them

Like we count Impel Down and Marineford as seperate arcs even though one goes right into the other

[cosmic hamlet]

Because they are in different islands i guess

[woven talon]

Since lord of the rings was written all at once and arbitrarily split into three volumes I feel like my point stands lol

[woven talon]

Yeah fans are silly

It comes from the wiki

[lofty fern]

Even if it was written all at once, there are still different arcs within it, so it still works

[formal wagon]

Don Quixote was writtin in two waves and non arbitrarily split into two parts

[sacred nimbus]

when i was young,i always thought water 7 as not part of the main cannon, franky is not a relevant character until the time skip, ah goog ol'innocent days

[formal wagon]

fun Don Quixote fact

[cosmic hamlet]

Even the official has them as seperate arcs but same saga

[woven talon]

Imagine any other series trying to divide arcs by location

We’re fortunate it mostly works out for op because it’s a traveling show

[lofty fern]

I mean, that has happened.

[woven talon]

Which official split

[woven talon]

Viz classifies it all as water 7

[cosmic hamlet]

This is from shueisha

Sagas and sub arcs

[woven talon]

Yeah I’m aware of the website one

[scarlet nacelle]

"post enies lobby" just shouldn't exist

its just another one of those ending parties we get at the end of every arc

[cosmic hamlet]

I think the set up to enies lobby is very big that they don't want to combine it 😭

54 chapters of water 7 to set up a 55 chapter enies lobby

[prisma idol]

Wano should be split into Wano Onigashima and Post Raid

But because of the Act structure that did nothing it can't

[cosmic hamlet]

Its not completed when this was made i think

[dense rapids]

The D will cause another storm

[formal wagon]

storm... like luffy's logia

i mean enel

[cosmic hamlet]

You don't agree with it? Its fine if you don't

We don't know if oda supervised it

[scarlet nacelle]

"elbaf is D" is such a stupid phrase

like what does it even mean (this is rhetorical, don't answer)

[dense rapids]

He could be talking about the War God

Elbaph

Like Elbaph is D

How Luffy is D

Warlan D. Elbaph

[clever idol]

Leans into the idea that D is something my symbolic than it being just a word.

D could just be a symbol

[clever idol]

Lol

It works

[dense rapids]

The actual thing to use would be Half Moon

[clever idol]

Or a smile even

[dense rapids]

No if that’s what the Harley is referring to then it’s not d it’s Half Moon

People just call it D

[clever idol]

It can represent both

I dont think the D is gonna be something as simple as representing one idea

But rather several

[formal wagon]

it means elbaf is associated with the D. clan

😃

[woven talon]

He doesn’t lol

[cosmic hamlet]

I see

[lofty fern]

I feel like if Imu calls it D, then it's D. Half-Moon could just be another name for them

[woven talon]

I can’t remember which interview this was but he once did give a arc break down

Might’ve been a data book

But it was really unique and different from what we have atm

Possibly was a planning stage thing

I don’t remember the exact wording but the series was split into two halves called sagas

Sea of survival super rookies was saga 1

And Final Sea New World was saga two

And saga one was split into like 6 arcs

I can’t remember what they were called but they had long names

Like Escape the Great Prison

[cosmic hamlet]

🤨

[woven talon]

And Quest for the city of gold

Something like that

This was like 12 years ago now

But yeah tldr is I don’t care how the wiki classifies it and there’s been several “official” ways of classifying it

[cosmic hamlet]

Those are some weird names

[woven talon]

And that varies from country to country and medium to medium

[woven talon]

I mean I know the big titles for the pre and post skip stuck

The wiki still uses them

[cosmic hamlet]

Which is the longest arc in terms of one piece timeline? Like which island did strawhats stay the longest (excluding the 2 years timeskip islands)

[hot cairn]

Wano I think

[cosmic hamlet]

They didn't even stay for a month in wano

[hot cairn]

or Water 7

[woven talon]

But the I individual arc names never caught on

I tend to use my own arc names

[cosmic hamlet]

🧐

[hot cairn]

it’s ridiculous that Zou to Wano is not one saga

[woven talon]

Probably the Arabasta saga

[hot cairn]

It’s pretty much all connected

[woven talon]

Or Wano

[woven talon]

The website has switched arc layouts like 3 times

So I wouldn’t put much stock in it

[cosmic hamlet]

Zou is its own saga

Because there is wci between zou and wano

😂

[hot cairn]

but it’s all connected

[woven talon]

This is how I divide the arcs

[hot cairn]

Zou is massive set up for both WCI and Wano

[balmy lava]

The D might mean the people that were split into two.

[woven talon]

So Elbaf is currently arc 17

[balmy lava]

The full moon are maybe the great kingdom, or the people who organized it, and the D are the two waring factions (joyboy and Davy), trying to assert control. To become the full moon.

[woven talon]

In my estimation 🤷‍♂️

[hot cairn]

isn’t an island an arc? Why do you have many islands in one arc

[woven talon]

Island = arc is stupid imo

[hot cairn]

why?

[woven talon]

I don’t divide it like that

Because that’s not what a story arc means

Like take cp9

We go to Water 7 with the objective of getting a shipwrights and a fixed ship. The crew is strained and falling apart due to that and the Robin question, which thematically picks up on the thread from Foxy whether Luffy can protect his crew

As far as I’m concerned the story arc is not resolved until post eneis when we’ve resolved those story threads

When we share antagonists, side characters and objectives

Also most op arcs have a party at the end to mark its ending

[cosmic hamlet]

Its a set up to the next arc, lodestar 😂

[woven talon]

It’s just a half finished story if you stop between W7 and Eneis, but you could stop between Enies and TB for example without being in the middle of a conflict

TLDR it’s about the current objective and conflict not the location

[hot cairn]

But isn’t that what a saga means? Multiple arcs following the same storyline

[woven talon]

There’s things which can lead into the next arc and things that happen in the outside world, we’ll call that the global plot — like when we get cut aways and stuff

That doesn’t count and doesn’t need to be resolved

But the conflicts and side stories introduced in a new arc must be resolved before that arc is done imo.

[woven talon]

This is just a fan term. Saga = many arcs. Locations = arc

I disagree with that strongly

[hot cairn]

Fair enough

[woven talon]

It’s also not how the Japanese side t tends to use saga

Like the vs four emperors saga

Spanned from Zou to Wano and that would be 2 sagas according to the wiki

God knows how many “sagas” this final saga will be

To me, there’s 4 sagas in OP, 17 arcs, and I’d be okay with calling some things subarcs, like Davy Back Fight or Drum

But that’s just me

[hot cairn]

that makes no sense, separating those in 2 diferent sagas

[hot cairn]

that’s fair

I get what you mean

[woven talon]

Idc how you split it, but I do encourage ppl to think about the story more by events than location

CP9 is about the strain on the crew and whether they’ll stay together. The conflicts are all the same and it doesn’t resolve until “post Eneis.”

Imagine if we went even more granular

How silly would it be to split Arabsta into the

Port arc
Yuba Arc
Rainbase Arc
Alubarna Arc
And post Alubarna Arc

Because that’s what’s it sounds like to me when we randomly say island = arc

The story is just not finished when Crocodile beats Luffy at rain base

Same deal when Lucci beats him at Water 7 just a larger scale

So Yh, maybe I’m being anal but “story arc.” should be about how we breakdown of the story, not the locations it takes place in.

No other series does it this way

As a rule of thumb it’s generally correct that island = arc in OP but following that too exactly leads to some silly classifications imo

Anyway I’m ranting now lol sry

I’ve just been harping on about this same thing for 20 years now 💀

[civic dust]

he would know via his mom who has shown she had some knowledge on rocks plan when she was escaping him. and BB not showin he had interest in elbaf is because elbaf until now has been unknown and BB is rarely onscreen

[muted hedge]

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#今週のワンピ #ONEPIECE

X · Mar 1, 2026, 3:05 PM

[hot cairn]

lol no worries, I get your point

[frail kindle]

no venting!

[distant burrow]

Who is nika

Any one knowz hear

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-egghead-luffy-gear-5-gear-fifth-gif-4170519523286580714

[cosmic hamlet]

Ranting =/= venting 😉

[rich hornet]

I too have been stationed on this hill for a decade plus and imagine I will die on it

[celest mauve]

this chapter had six double-page spreads, damn

chapter 554 was entirely made of double-page spreads and it had seven of them

[honest garden]

That's always driven me mad lol, when people say EL and W7 are different arcs

Nigh all the plot threads carry over from W7 to EL, and back to W7

[prisma yacht]

Wordle 1,717 4/6

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[alpine trench]

The raid had many such chapters

[restive lintel]

Fact or fiction?

[rose rune]

Friction

[prisma idol]

How is the mf who lost higher than the mf who won?

Bad list

Also shanks beats mihawk

[restive lintel]

Joyboy?

[prisma idol]

Yes

[restive lintel]

He was betrayed

Actually the strongest

[restive lintel]

Not true

[prisma idol]

We dont know what happened, all we know for sure is Joyboy lost and Imu won

[restive lintel]

We also know how Zunesha

[prisma idol]

Very true actually

[restive lintel]

And Emet esp apologised to him

Emet was so sad

Joyboy was stabbed in the back

[prisma idol]

We dont know Zunesha's crime and Emet is sad that Joyboy died and he could save him

Not that he was betrayed

[restive lintel]

Considering just how strong the lineup of Joyboy's team is

Its pretty given he was betrayed

[restive lintel]

Keeping Joyboy aside, doesn't the narrative state Mihawk being stronger than Shanks?

Tho I think this list deserves to have Rocks

[prisma yacht]

Friction

[restive lintel]

Where do you think Usopp ranks?

[rapid ridge]

Fiction, shanks should be #1

[muted hedge]

what do y'all think the color spread will be?

i think it will feature Loki's dragon state

or at least show what Loki's eye color is

we'll also probably get to see Imunko

maybe some of the MMA

[tawny kraken]

that reminds me, every time brook shows up in official colors, he either looks like oda forgot to color him because he's just black and white, or he looks like a goddamn circus clown, there is no in between

[candid slate]

aura

isn't loki jet black color the dragon form

[amber thorn]

Where is the SBS Leaks

[maiden charm]

Yes

[dense rapids]

Sbs in a couple of hours hopefully

[white quest]

Buggy can I show you my theory it’s the recent on in #manga-theories

[dense rapids]

That would be for a volume cover

Color spreads are usually the Strawhats doing random stuff

[white quest]

it might be a live action themed one for season 2

[muted hedge]

well we got Xebec recently

so i wouldn't rule anything out

[dense rapids]

Because it was a rocks volume

[muted hedge]

no, i am talking about the color spread

[white quest]

He recently drew a dragon color spread so I think if he did draw dragon Loki it would be at the end of the arc like with egghead, he drew the Vegapunks

[muted hedge]

when was the recent one?

was it the one from oct 6th 2024

[white quest]

Start of the arc so around then yeah

[white quest]

Yea

[muted hedge]

perfect oppertunity to remake this one but with the current outfits and a proper Loki dragon

and instead of the brooms, give them a sky ship or something from Elbaph

[white quest]

good idea the flying ships are cool

[dense rapids]

https://x.com/aniking/status/2028399059015209443?s=46

LETS GOO

[muted hedge]

?

[dense rapids]

We might be getting sbs now

[muted hedge]

oh nice, i don't see it as embedded

[dense rapids]

https://x.com/aniking/status/2028399229601792220?s=46

AniKing (@AniKing)

ONE PIECE VOLUME 114 - ROCKS

#ONEPIECE

X · Mar 2, 2026, 9:17 AM

I was about to go to sleep to

[white quest]

the issue is that they take 30 minutes to translate and post each question it’s so annoying

[muted hedge]

wait is that Xebec's bounty?

[dense rapids]

Guess I’ll stay up

Where do you see a bounty

[white quest]

I wouldn’t wait buggy it takes hours for them to get through the questions

[muted hedge]

imagine if Oda hid his bounty here

impossible to tell eitherway

[dense rapids]

I think that’s the panel from 1154

When he leaves the holy land

[muted hedge]

oh right

[muted hedge]

they're in different positions though

[dense rapids]

Yea ur right

[white quest]

it’s just edited it’s the same papers though

[dense haven]

yall liked the chapter?

[white quest]

yeah my favourite of the arc so far

[tawny kraken]

I liked last chapter a lot more

waaaay more actually

[white quest]

why

[tawny kraken]

much more emotional and the reveal at the end is goddamn peak

[muted hedge]

i love the different shots we got on Loki this chapter, as well as the Nika and god of war lore

[white quest]

yeah the ending was good in 1174

[tawny kraken]

I'm not ashamed to say I still cry like a little bitch every time I look at that chapter

[muted hedge]

not to mention Luffy's new attack was sick, it's nice seeing Sommers being torn to shreds

and stomped on

[tawny kraken]

and imo this is just so well made

[restive lintel]

WSJ cover will be Loki & Luffy

[muted hedge]

that's probably gonna be very hard to get a hold of

[white quest]

there’s something odd about this volume cause it only has 11 chapters but the same amount of pages egg the 12 chapter volumes had

[keen quiver]

This is very likely

For this volume too

[dense rapids]

My goat

The level they’re going for the rocks volume

The void century arc is gonna be crazy

Joy boy and his companions for like 2-3 volumes

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/dumbbuttdoodll/status/2028396356163805428/photo/1

dumbbuttdoodl (@dumbbuttdoodll)

#ONEPIECE #loki

X · Mar 2, 2026, 9:05 AM

[prisma yacht]

#1

[prisma yacht]

Whatever big thing imu's gonna pull

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/XgInrw/status/2026944285158019121/photo/1
Jupeter crying in disappointment is so funny

Ama(あま) (@XgInrw)

ソマーズ聖の好感度を上げるための妄想を描きました！
この展開来たら理解が追いつかない自信があります🫡
#ONEPIECE #fanart #妄想

X · Feb 26, 2026, 8:55 AM

[rose rune]

I don'r understand what's going on, but I agree

[tawny kraken]

oh hai mark

look in your dm's

[prisma yacht]

Oh

Mb

[restive lintel]

Tho we already had one like that

Maybe this one gonna have Loki & Nidhogg

[muted hedge]

why is Loki's hair purple there, it's meant to be pink

[restive lintel]

Its pin

[restive lintel]

Light purple streaks

[keen quiver]

I feel nidhogg is more likely ngl

The spiky stuff has to be fur

[restive lintel]

He also cooking a color page, that's gonna have all of Nidhogg

[keen quiver]

Still betting on the hybrid form getting on a cover

[sharp stag]

Loki looks so ass

Genuinely what was oda cooking with that transformation

[restive lintel]

Hybrid Loki on cover? Nahh that ain't even revealed in the chapters yet

Only silhouette

When Harald got cooked

[keen quiver]

Saying the next cover boy

[restive lintel]

The cover after this? Oh yeah that makes sense

[keen quiver]

Yeah we have examples of this before

[restive lintel]

Loki domi reversi next chapter

Luffy is cooked

[muted hedge]

i hope that Loki has capabilities to just sprout a giant pair of wings out of his back, without going into the hybrid state fully

[keen quiver]

Imu might be a domi reversi merchant

[restive lintel]

This run of covers so so peak

[restive lintel]

Ohh like he stays a giant but just gets wins, that's be sick

[keen quiver]

Ngl this cover was ass

Wojack kaido

😭

[muted hedge]

yeah like Dory and Broggy

[restive lintel]

Lmaoo he looks funny but cover aight

[restive lintel]

Who's gonna defeat them?

[muted hedge]

oh right, Xebec also had the wings sprouting from his back

[muted hedge]

Dory and Broggy?

[restive lintel]

Yeah it was great

[restive lintel]

Yes

[muted hedge]

not sure, the only matchup i am confident in is Sanji vs Sommers

[keen quiver]

Sanji vs Sommers is a given

[craggy vapor]

Isn’t Sommers dead tho

[keen quiver]

I don't think so

[restive lintel]

Nah he coming back

Luffy vs Loki

[keen quiver]

Bigger question is where brook is

He vanished

[muted hedge]

he is probably in pieces

[keen quiver]

Top 1 magician

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-sabaody-brook-brook-one-piece-skeleton-gif-10936628139796074833

Brook watching gunko

[muted hedge]

i imagine we'll just see his head roll around somewhere

searching for his body

[craggy vapor]

Imu convinced him to postpone their match.

[keen quiver]

@craggy vapor @restive lintel

People need to reread

[restive lintel]

He just watching

Imu distracted once Loki showed up

[keen quiver]

Qillingham cannot carry the fight

[unique lagoon]

brook casually blocking a haki attack with shield

rodo really made some sturdy shield huh

[muted hedge]

well, he was sent flying

[unique lagoon]

wait no thats from gerd i think

[restive lintel]

People expect too much of Killingham

[craggy vapor]

I thought Brook will ask Gunko at some point to see her panties but Gunko’s panties are already visible yohoho

[unique lagoon]

they better tbf
imu sent 3 HKs vs the whole country

[muted hedge]

i mean, he is pretty much soloing all of Elbaph except for the monster trio and Loki

the sleeptids he has are pretty busted, when you take all things into consideration

they're an infinite army

[unique lagoon]

they suppose to be the Imu elite guard so yeah i am expecting a lot

[restive lintel]

His devil fruit is pretty busted but it could also just become another Garling situation

[still mason]

Did Saturn have a hybrid and a full zoan form?

He did, right?

[unique lagoon]

no idea

[craggy vapor]

If he used his ability on Nami, will Arlongs spawn?

[unique lagoon]

his first form he had his upper body and spider legs

his full form i guess is more a full on spider

[restive lintel]

They did their job pretty well, what remains to be seen is how they respond to this counter attack

Killingham vs Zoro?

[prisma yacht]

I have heavily invested on killy and imu stocks for the next chapter

[unique lagoon]

i do wonder how many SH will deal with each HK

[prisma yacht]

🔥that imu color spread is about to go insane next chapter

[unique lagoon]

once luffy and loki start being busy

theres plenty of dream monsters and demon giants to go around to split up the SH crew + allies

[rustic coral]

fr

[restive lintel]

I hope Robin gets the last hit on Killingham tho

Payback for library

Maybe a couple of Shs vs Killingham

[muted hedge]

it would be more fitting if she got the last hit on Sommers

[unique lagoon]

cant tell if robin would do battle first or try saving any of the ohara stuff + saul

we might just get more side plots also

instead of just defeating these monsters

[muted hedge]

i think it's hard to stray from the main conflict considering that the conflict is taking place all over Elbaph

wherever they go there will probably be a sleeptid rampaging

[unique lagoon]

maybe biblo or the giant sword or heaven realm turn into a sideplot

maybe elbaf has more hidden things in it to explore

cuz you know a shit ton of history

[muted hedge]

i'm sure it does, but this conflict needs to be solved first and foremost

[rose rune]

Biblo was introduced to burn

https://tenor.com/view/komurasaki-one-piece-hyori-grand-entrance-sassy-gif-16619851

[unique lagoon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rotisserie-chicken-3

[tawny kraken]

what if gnadalf comes and takes biblo on an adventure

[rose rune]

Gnadalf my beloved

[unique lagoon]

what if its just a series of flashbacks again
does that count for side plot

[restive lintel]

Who will even get a flashback at this point?

[unique lagoon]

the narrator can trigger it

or imu does a monolog since i think hes the only one who might have been alive for a long ass time

ill cope that we get a former nika user face reveal

either of the two is fine

[dense rapids]

Just thought of something

Ratatoskr is the companion of war god from first world

Biblo might be the companion of the giant king from VC

Unless it’s actually a giant in disguise

Odin carried a owl with him

Odin spear is called gungnir

[tough igloo]

welp Oda CLEARLY has a favorite old gen character 😂 this like Rocks 5th cover or color spread in like the last 2 months lol

[dense rapids]

Ragnir wasn’t used in the VC

Gungnir was used

There’s a another weapon on Elbaph that hajrudin may get

[rose rune]

Now make an "I was here all arlong" edit

[solid mantle]

when I get home, will do

and just add arlong's nose to it

[warm fossil]

i mean yeah we know this even without the mural

because it waited all the way from the warrior god to loki

[dense rapids]

Yea so the spear of Elbaph we see in the mural is somewhere

I think that’s Hajrudin’s power up

[prisma yacht]

Goatrudin

What if Hajrudin can still grow 🤔

[fallen meteor]

Heres how Hajrudin can still be strong

[unique lagoon]

imu will domi him
boost that ancient giants blood from herald
he gets saved but the giants blood buff stays for some reason

ez

[dense rapids]

We could see a combination sovereignty attack with Gungnir and Ragnir

The current giants refer to it before they do a sovereignty move

But I think it’s based on the VC’s giant spear

[dense haven]

didnt you get banned

or there are 2 buggy theorists in the server

[dense rapids]

There’s like 3 buggys

[fallen meteor]

Regular buggy and evil buggy (banned)

[dense haven]

good buggy and bad buggy

[grand flower]

Good catches

[dense rapids]

Is the spear missing because Emet had it?

I think we’ve yet to see a giant with a spear in the whole story

[torn stirrup]

well there's the castle guards

though that's more of a glaive

[warm fossil]

spear's missing because imu broke it

[dense rapids]

Yea those aren’t spears

[torn stirrup]

well Emet appeared to be pierced by that spear when he was inactive

[warm fossil]

highly doubt thats the spear of elbaf

[dark nymph]

is this our final villain chat

[dense rapids]

Even in the Viking color spread there are spears but we don’t ever see them used

[warm fossil]

its crazy how the more we learn about imu the less i like him as a character

[alpine trench]

Good for you

[warm fossil]

bad for me actually

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-laugh-speed-laughing-speed-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-4653378302650201314

Awesome

[dark nymph]

We don't really know much about Imu tbf

There is hope

[warm fossil]

is there tho

[unique lagoon]

what is this spear thing?
some norse spear?

[fallen meteor]

Gugnir?

Yea

[unique lagoon]

whats it about

[prisma yacht]

https://x.com/i/status/2028126651130040489

Stussy Sama - Dawn&Dusk (@DawnStussy)

【Lost in Translation explained by a Native Japanese Speaker】

According to Yarul, there’s a legend in Elbaph about a War God.
It’s probably the same figure that Dorry referred to as the “God of War: Elbaph”, but the pronunciation is slightly different.

Yarul calls it 戦さ神

X · Mar 1, 2026, 3:14 PM

[fallen meteor]

Its Odin's i think

[unique lagoon]

killed a god?

[fallen meteor]

His main weapon?

[unique lagoon]

oh odin has a spear? i thought it was a staff

[prisma yacht]

Does this even matter?

War god
God of war

[fallen meteor]

If im not mistaken it never misses too

[unique lagoon]

ye i saw some people talkinga bout this couple of days ago

nothing much to go on tho

[alpine trench]

Odin has a spear yes and it’s called Gungnir, a surefire hit is guaranteed with the spear regardless of skill

[unique lagoon]

by that you mean he usually throws it?

[alpine trench]

It was fashioned by dwarves Sindri and Brokk

Yes if you throw it

[prisma yacht]

So it's kinda pointless

[vital heart]

@alpine trench

[unique lagoon]

big fan of polearms/spear weapons
game changing melee weapon back then

[unique lagoon]

its jus another

foreshadowing guys look

[prisma yacht]

I see

[dense rapids]

Gungnir is odin’s spear built by the dwarves that he uses to start Ragnarok alongside Loki who is imprisoned and Thor who wields mjolnir

[cosmic hamlet]

You look weird with this name

[dense rapids]

Mjolnir has been converted into Ragnir in OP

But Hajrudin labels the spear of Elbaph as “Gungnir” in Dressrosa

The fact we know ragnir hasn’t been used since the first world and Loki’s counterpart from the second world wields a spear means there’s another weapon in Elbaph

[unique lagoon]

i missed that part
haj already talked about this spear?

[grand flower]

Gungir is the move Hajrudin defeated Machvise with

[unique lagoon]

oh the attack is named after it

[grand flower]

Oda wrote it to be read as “Gungnir”

[prisma yacht]

Well

[unique lagoon]

i thought he talked about an actual spear

[prisma yacht]

Acoc gungnir

[grand flower]

But the way it’s written is “spear of elbaph”

[dense rapids]

^

[grand flower]

Oh nvm

That’s wrong

The chapter is named spear of Elbaph

[unique lagoon]

so what is it? all those type of attacks
from dorry and broggy
big mom and kaido
and gerd goldberg and rodo
haj punch
is a clue on the real spear that totally exist?

[grand flower]

Thr way it’s written is “Hero’s Spear”

[grand flower]

Buggy is thinking so yeah

Because the ancient giant next to Nika in the mural has a spear

Attacking the monster holding the sun

[dense rapids]

Yea I think all the sovereignty attacks are derived from the actual spear

Maybe it releases explosions or something

Like how those attacks do

[grand flower]

It could be a metaphor

And not a literal spear

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/mazaochizao/status/2028440500127117754/photo/1
shame, but cool art

mazzz (COMMS OPEN) (@mazaochizao)

#ONEPIECE1175
I'm doing thumbnails for B.D.A Law now

X · Mar 2, 2026, 12:01 PM

[unique lagoon]

you know back then we talked about why emet panels dint show what the spear looked lik
the tip part

[grand flower]

Adults said the ancient giant used the “spear of Elbaph and children took it as a literal spear

It could be Hao

[dense rapids]

Yet we see the giant wielding a spear

[unique lagoon]

we also talked about it was his own spear that stabbed him

[prisma yacht]

Good for him

[grand flower]

Yeah but fhis could be adults talking about Haki

[unique lagoon]

iirc toei showed the spear

[grand flower]

And children think it’s a literal spear

[dense rapids]

Huh

[grand flower]

Spear of Elbaph = Sovereignty techniques

Sovereignty = king

Supreme King Haki

[prisma yacht]

Acoc gungnir

[unique lagoon]

so with the current emphasis on ancient melee weapons
we just going to add more

?

[prisma yacht]

🔥

[grand flower]

“The ancient giant attacked with the spear of Elbaph” could mean a giant with Supreme King Haki

[dense rapids]

Wait

[grand flower]

With everything going on in the arc with the abyss

And a child took it literally

[dense rapids]

Wasn’t there a Fishman with a exploding spear

[grand flower]

“Spear of Elbaph” is already metaphorical in a way

Because theyre doint it with swords and axes

[grand flower]

It almost feels like “this is our version”

[unique lagoon]

nvm thats ass this is better

might aswell ad that "war" spear into the god of war theory

[dense rapids]

Both of those might be foreshadowing for it

Both spear tips explode

[torn stirrup]

is Ikaros Much one of the most nothing characters in the series lmao

[dense rapids]

Dosun = Loki (ragnir)

Ikaros = Hajrudin (gungnir)

[torn stirrup]

idk i feel like he's the least memorable of an already pretty forgettable villain group

[grand flower]

That’s just subtle foreshadowing

@dense rapids giants and fishman have a connection with Wotan

Gaban mentioned them alongside buccaneers and the dosundada

[dense rapids]

Wotan is the name for Odin

[grand flower]

Also with Elbaph having a legendary dragon

And fishman having ryugu palace

FMI is also the first time we hear Joy Boys name

Their entry into FMI has a lot of foreshadowing to imus powers as well

They talk about Abysses

They also encounter a kraken which is associated with Davy Jones in pop culture due to POTC

The Vander Decken story sounds suspiciously like a Domi Reversi too

Captain suddenly goes insane and attacks his crew

[dense rapids]

Loki and Hajrudin

They’re even more shots of these two together

[grand flower]

His helmet and glasses look like Hajrudin

Long, wavy pink hair like Loki

[dense rapids]

Yea

Dosun also says “doga” like Loki

[grand flower]

Youd get crucified for this at a certain time of activity

This is interesting

[dense rapids]

I made the Dosun and Loki connection months ago

[grand flower]

Gladius jump scare

[dense rapids]

Bro even has the goggles

Just caught this as well

Brook does the Nika dance and use the move fantasia

Fantasia is the same chapter name of the chapter where Luffy rings the bell

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/woody_icecream_/status/2028406426113097918/photo/1

Woody (Ice D. Cream) (@woody_icecream_)

DRAGON LOKI (CHAPTER 1175).

Full version of the chapter and other chapters starting from 1000 (Full HD and No Watermark-Telegramm) - https://t.co/7g2ItxB1Fa

#onepiece #onepiece1175 #onepiece1175spoilers #onepieceloki #onepiece1176

X · Mar 2, 2026, 9:45 AM

[grand flower]

Oda will do this again with Brook undoing the Domi Reversi

Dude can you imagine if the backdrop is G5 Luffy doing a gigant balloon

Underneath Loki

So it looks Brook is in front of the moon again

[alpine trench]

Not good

[grand flower]

AI or just some butt?

[torn stirrup]

huh just thought about how Loki lightning-blasting the Sleeptids can't be very good for the tree lmao

[grand flower]

Luffy probably still has it rubberized

[torn stirrup]

tru

[grand flower]

He be thunkin

[alpine trench]

Probably just ass yeah

[muted hedge]

?

[alpine trench]

It’s bad

No AI involved

Just straight up ass

[muted hedge]

meh, i think it's fine

it's hard to see good art on twitter now adays

shit is dry

[cosmic hamlet]

Its art or coloring?

Coloring is different to art imo

[muted hedge]

both are hard to find

it's buried beneath a bunch of braindead slander or powerscaling posts

[cosmic hamlet]

There are hidden gems that you need to dig deep and find

[dense haven]

like toadgashi

[muted hedge]

yuck

[cosmic hamlet]

😂

[grand flower]

Lololol

You’re one of the funniest people I’ve met here

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-dunk-lebron-james-levronjame-gif-1038771198631298897

[alpine trench]

Crazy to me bro will still be alive to get a kicking

[fallen meteor]

This is such a crazy panel

[muted hedge]

damn, i didn't notice that his head split in half

[fallen meteor]

Look at his teeth

[muted hedge]

Sommers really is the punching bag

[muted hedge]

lol

and then to add salt to the injury, Loki came in and stomped him into the dirt

[tawny kraken]

I can't decide whether this is a WB upscale or downscale

[tawny kraken]

I love it

[graceful belfry]

Dude can’t catch a W

[dense haven]

https://klipy.com/gifs/luffy-one-piece-212

[graceful belfry]

I’ll never forgive them for putting my goat in a Lakers jersey

[tawny panther]

the fact that his bum ass still regenerated from this makes me hate him even more lol

Loki needs to tell Luffy how to kill them permanently

[grand flower]

Izou was really a samurai upping pole

[alpine trench]

https://x.com/s7s_h/status/2027873903952162940?s=46

DaVinci (@S7S_H)

#حرق_ون_بيس || #ONEPIECE1175

Nidhogg

X · Feb 28, 2026, 10:29 PM

[graceful belfry]

Dumper

[tawny panther]

Loki better not put those bandages back on his eyes .. it shouldn’t even be possible for him to find them since they came off lol

[grand flower]

He was letting them sing on Kaido

[graceful belfry]

Flintlock came with a switch

[unique lagoon]

i thought that was wafalo art for a sec

[fallen meteor]

Very wafalolike

[unique lagoon]

yep makes it sus

[dark nymph]

you think this would have the same effect on someone with no regen?

[unique lagoon]

i rarely remember artist names but wafalo is very memorable

[prisma yacht]

Ye

[dark nymph]

this guy is so goated

[vale heath]

Wafalo Loki is going to go so hard

[austere flint]

So, ratatoskr isn't a df? Or am I understanding it wrongly

[ionic palm]

still is

[grand flower]

I think it is

Jarul caps it off with “that’s what the legend says”

So I’m taking that as like, flowery lore about a DF weapon

Starts and ends with “that’s what the legend says”

Almost like he’s saying “ey but don’t quote ME on that”

[austere flint]

Got it! Thanks for clarifying.

[grand flower]

That’s my interpretation

I could be wrong

There’s a chance this is something new and that actually happened

@austere flint rn I’d say put a pin in it

I think about Loki being shocked about Shamrocks Cerberus

Even though he has a transforming weapon himself

[graceful belfry]

Loki and Shamrock are destined to duke it out

[grand flower]

Could be that the giants just don’t really know about the phenomenon that well

But that really stood out to me

[grand flower]

Yeah tbh

[graceful belfry]

Devil Fruit history is an interesting subject to me

Surely Oda explains everything

[grand flower]

Same

Theyre fascinating

[final trench]

If it happened in the first world, then i dont think so

[graceful belfry]

We got a one panel flashback with Nika, Elabf’s God of War, who turns into a dragon (Nidhogg) and wields Ragnir, and Ratatoskr all included in it. Ratatoskr “inhabits” the hammer, whatever that means, but even aside from that we have Nika here, whom a fruit is “based on,” I guess? I’m sort of curious if the myths, that mythological zoans take the shape of, tangibly existed at one point. Or is it all fictitious legend

[final trench]

I think he manifested himself into the hammer since he always wanted to be by the god of wars side

[rich hornet]

Third option is that a real giant with the nidhogg fruit fought a real person with the Nika fruit, and the event was mythologized so that the characters are portrayed as actual gods

[graceful belfry]

Yeah, that’s a strong possibility

[prisma yacht]

I'd rather have this as a mythical tale

but that's just me

[tawny panther]

i don’t see any other way a giant can turn into a dragon without a DF being involved

then again i guess if Nika existed without it being a DF then anything is possible

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/i_myhuk/status/2028251609877147675

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X · Mar 1, 2026, 11:30 PM

[rich hornet]

It has to be grounded in reality in some way, though, because ragnir is real and sees in loki a resemblance to the god of war it knew from forever ago

[vale heath]

Consider the way that Morgans described Luffy after whole cake.

[tawny panther]

I think it’s either

A.) God of War, Nika & Ratatoskr weren’t DFs but they became DFs as time went on and DFs were created when people wished for them

2.) Nika , God of War & Ratatoskr were all DFs back then

[vale heath]

“Fifth emperor Luffy devastates big mom’s tea party!!” Sounds a lot more dramatic than the truth of “Luffy barely survived an espionage mission with a narrow goal and half his crew”

I imagine the myths are distorted much the same way

[tawny panther]

Nika not having the cloud around his shoulders like Joyboy & Luffy though makes it hard for me to believe that version of Nika ate a DF

granted that could just be how Jarul envisions it

[final trench]

It wasnt

The first world didnt have DFs

Just the motherflame ☀️

[tawny panther]

we don’t know that

that’s just a theory

[final trench]

Its implied

But sure

[tawny panther]

we assume they were created in the 2nd world by the ancient kingdom

[prisma yacht]

not necessarily loki beat ragnir up and that's when it accepts loki is also what he can take from this instead of connecting it to the mythical lore

[tawny panther]

but nothing is confirmed

based off what the mural said about the forest god sending out its devils most assume DFs were created in the 2nd world but it could’ve been the 1st world

[final trench]

Ok so why does nika not have the hagaromo scarf even tho he’s awakened

The first world mentions the forbidden sun (motherflame) that got taken away by the earth god. Then the slaves dreamed and manifested nika, thats not a DF

[tawny panther]

God of War could’ve lived from the 1st World all the way to the end of the 2nd world as well since Giants live much longer

[final trench]

Unless you wanna argue they all combined their devilfruits and made somebody

[tawny panther]

VP said DFs are just the wishes and dreams of other people

[warm fossil]

vp could be wrong

[tawny panther]

he could be but oda already told us we would learn the truth about devil fruits when we meet vegapunk

Oda said this long over a decade ago

[prisma yacht]

So manifestations

[final trench]

Yea, from the motherflame

[tawny panther]

maybe , but we don’t know if the mother flame even has anything to do with. DFs or just the ancient weapons

[graceful belfry]

We still don’t really understand how inanimate objects “eat” devil fruits, as far as I can recall. The aspect of the legend that Jarul speaks of which intrigues me the most is that Ratatoskr isn’t being represented as a fruit, nor would its inclusion in the legend make much sense if, at the time, it was only a devil fruit. So did the actual Ratatoskr inhabit Ragnir? Again, I have a lot easier time with that bit when I interpret it as something we’re meant to take with an extreme grain of salt

[final trench]

The forest god “taming” the demons is basically telling us thats when DFs are created joyboy had the NIKA fruit. Nikas will is stored in that fruit because he was an actual “thing” i cant even say person fr

[tawny panther]

yeah that’s a interesting theory

[final trench]

I think objects eat em via their shadows

Going off brook shadows have a soul so to speak

[tawny panther]

but DFs could’ve been in the first world when the mural said humans prayed for nika an he came cause that’s literally how Vegapunk explained DFs origins to be

[final trench]

I guess bro

[tough igloo]

yeah I think DFs were created in the first world & later on in the 2nd world they got mass produced and even more DFs were created

but i do believe some DFs already existed in the 1st world

maybe like the deity ones existed first

or logias .. one of the 2 were the first types of DFs but with the god of war reveal i think it was deities DFs that existed first

[warm fossil]

assuming what vp is saying is correct I don't think devil fruits were created at any point

they've existed for as long as people had dreams for

[graceful belfry]

That’d be pretty cool. Zoans are the only fruit we know of with a will of their own so I figure it has something to do with that, but we’ll see what goes down

[final trench]

Yea since ratatoskr was so attached to the god of war he wanted to be his hammer and joined him in battle

So he probably latched onto the sword

Or its shadow

[hot cairn]

https://youtu.be/-sKjdYceH04 wapol looks crazy lmao

[grand flower]

@hot cairn my tummy hurts gang

[tawny kraken]

[hot cairn]

I'll send you some medicine

[tawny kraken]

but yeah fkn hell wapol looks amazing

[dense snow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/876337606613430342/1016758215138095114/image0-47.gif

[heady lava]

chopper looks ugly af

in live action

like the manga and anime chopper looked cute af

but live action chopper looks like crap

it looks like chopper hadn't eaten anything for days

[dark nymph]

he does look cursed but im not sure if they coulda done better

[heady lava]

they must hav done it

for the sake of op fans

we didnt ask for live action op

[urban lodge]

He should have been a puppet

[glacial bear]

Who is that?

[heady lava]

yeh smth like that

[glacial bear]

Rumbar Pirates?

[tawny kraken]

that's at the rumbar pirates scene

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-whale-laboon-laboon-one-piece-sea-gif-16737896574907983124

[dark nymph]

he should have looked like detective pikachu

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-detective-pikachu-pikachu-magnifying-glass-cute-gif-15629921

[tawny kraken]

I wonder, is this supposed to be yorki?

[heady lava]

yeh

they shoulda made chopper like pikachu

the live action pikachu is gud

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-docks-shawty-triflin-shawty-triflin-she-gif-22455514

[tawny kraken]

oh my, thanks google

[glacial bear]

When the Rumbar Pirates died. I was so sad

It should’ve been Gunko instead

[grand flower]

Nah I’m gonna tough it out to boost my stats once I recover

[tawny kraken]

trust, awakened brook revives his crew and they all sail to see laboon

[heady lava]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRp_c9NQldWkgXEeQvUr5n2V-uB-TLosbSEfA&s

in this pic

[dark nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[heady lava]

hell nah

trust me

can u post that pic for me if u dont mind pls

[tawny kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/noperms-gif-27260516

[heady lava]

dude its that nika vs imu photo

which emet looks at

that manga panel

[subtle dome]

What if he made this up

[unique lagoon]

oh theres a new trailer for the OPLA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sKjdYceH04

[muted hedge]

nothing related to the sbs yet?

[alpine trench]

nope

[remote maple]

I love the giants

[restive lintel]

Justice for Jarul

[candid slate]

No world is unfair

[brittle basin]

ooh neat

[muted hedge]

Wapol is nightmare fuel

[brittle basin]

oh damn it looks good

and Wapol is INSANE looking in this trailer

[muted hedge]

nightmare fuel

[brittle basin]

look at that budget go

[glacial bear]

Where should I eat chat

[muted hedge]

uh, at the toilet

[prisma yacht]

Umm

'-'

[brittle basin]

that's a good sticker

[prisma yacht]

I love giants with strong cocs

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-eat-gif-18599705

[frigid gulch]