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iron oriole
digital spear
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Theory: Karasu isnt a crow

iron oriole
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I could have picked a random rev

twilit escarp
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Does he have acoc ?

iron oriole
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Belo Betty just came to mind first

digital spear
strong wadi
buoyant walrus
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hattori solos 😤

twilit escarp
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He still gets soled by ragnir tho

still dragon
vale heath
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A random rev is not, titled, or symbolically, a dragon.
There is a revolutionary that is titled dragon, which is what I’m getting at.

digital spear
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Tom taught ship building coc to Franky and Eisberg

still dragon
digital spear
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Paulie has coc too

iron oriole
twilit escarp
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Hell nah who deleted

vale heath
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Correct.

strong wadi
vale heath
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Please re-read the statement.

still dragon
digital spear
twilit escarp
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Why tho

digital spear
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No other series

twilit escarp
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It's just a meme

twilit escarp
iron oriole
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Toki, Uta & Hound?

still dragon
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5 Kaidos vs 5 Elders

vale heath
digital spear
twilit escarp
digital spear
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Regen in german is rain

digital spear
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Subaeu....

twilit escarp
buoyant walrus
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hattori vs gorosei (no contract)

still dragon
twilit escarp
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Rain >> One Piece verse

hazy turret
still dragon
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Sakazuki is Luffy's uncle

digital spear
twilit escarp
strong wadi
twilit escarp
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When spoilers ??

digital spear
vale heath
proud pivot
buoyant walrus
twilit escarp
buoyant walrus
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shiryuu is up there in the top 10 frauds list

twilit escarp
shadow python
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Shiryu was so hype. We thought hed be the one to kill Mihawk

iron oriole
digital spear
shadow python
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Well good news is the theory is dead

urban lodge
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It's really bad

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I don't think it was ever really alive

twilit escarp
strong wadi
iron oriole
urban lodge
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I don't think Mihawk is gonna die even after Zoro defeats him

hot cairn
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digital spear
urban lodge
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I think if anything losing to Zoro is gonna motivate him more to keep living

shadow python
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Him not getting the diamond fruit feom Jozu was disappointing but fine. But squealing like a fanboy over scratching old man Garp tells us what we need to know about his powers

digital spear
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Did he do that

iron oriole
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Shiryu having the invis fruit is good, Zoro will have to get better obs

vale heath
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I’d shit myself if I landed a mortal blow on a guy that just cratered an island with a punch

digital spear
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Why do people think that moment was bad for Shiryu

digital spear
twilit escarp
dark nymph
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Sanjuan got violated

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anime makes that so funny

urban lodge
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In the manga it's a punch, the anime makes it a slam

strong wadi
shadow python
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Yonko commanders range wildly in ability but the Whitebeard commanders were parrying Mihawk. Shiryu was just fodder

twilit escarp
urban lodge
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Barbell makes it so funny, you can tell Oda couldn't be bothered to change pallettes for his skin color

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Literally exactly the same as everyone else

still dragon
shadow python
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On intro Shiryu was hyped. He was on par with Magellan

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And knowing he was going to be on BBs crew made him and BB out to be so much stronger

strong wadi
twilit escarp
twilit escarp
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He was ALWAYS there

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He's HIM

strong wadi
twilit escarp
urban lodge
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Gil was a collective hallucination

strong wadi
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Gil’s got some shooters that edited him on, that’s crazy

iron oriole
digital spear
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W ADDITION

frozen ravine
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gil bastar erasure erasure

golden valley
twilit escarp
strong wadi
digital spear
shadow python
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Theres no reason to divorce a devil fruit from the user unless its vs BB

iron oriole
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Gil is cool

digital spear
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I dont know why Oda puts him in Rocks but then erases him

iron oriole
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He should have got more love

digital spear
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I think Oda is ragebaiting specifically me

iron oriole
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True

frozen ravine
twilit escarp
frozen ravine
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they're erasing the erasure of gil

digital spear
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Doing gods work

shadow python
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Caesar clowned Katakuri because of his devil fruit. Indirectly doing more damage than Luffy ever could prior to Katakuris donut time

iron oriole
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Oda didn't even give bro 1 word of dialogue

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Its so sad

frozen ravine
twilit escarp
iron oriole
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And yet we got the fucker Wang Zhi

iron oriole
twilit escarp
digital spear
strong wadi
# digital spear I think Oda is ragebaiting specifically me

On the surface, Oda is ragebaiting me by blocking Barbel’s face. On a second look, we know that the words hiding his face is foreshadowing. It’s hinting that Barbel’s face will have changed since we have last seen him. Perhaps a scar…

iron oriole
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Gil should have been Wang Zhi, can't change my mind

urban lodge
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Oda is so washed, he really thought it was more important to put Streusen on the cover than Garp and Roger

pulsar path
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I think fisher tiger story needs a reboot retcon

strong wadi
shadow python
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Oven is his other twin bro so Kata might be more vulnerable with him. Like a friend never believing another friend would hurt him

strong wadi
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If end of rock valley is next volume, could get Roger, Garp, rocks, and a random as Luffy

urban lodge
digital spear
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The Sunbell and Barbell competition is funny

pulsar path
digital spear
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For mmbf

pulsar path
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Smoothie too tho

twilit escarp
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Does anyone miss Johnny and Yosaku ?

digital spear
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Me

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Also when will we get the 20 chapter Rocky Port Flashback

shadow python
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Oven was blitzed by Sanji so id say he was at best wci Sanji level

digital spear
pulsar path
shadow python
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Which is still really good. Doffy said Dressrosa Sanji was strong while calling pre gear 4 luffy weak

digital spear
pulsar path
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Will get a novel based in Rocky Port it will have with masked deuce showing up

iron oriole
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Rocky Port is important to BB so we'll get it during a major BB flashback

pulsar path
iron oriole
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Maybe a page or two on it

shadow python
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Id rather BBs flashback concern Eris

hot cairn
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I’m surprised Oda didn’t put Harald on the cover

iron oriole
shadow python
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Watch her live a second flashback. Probably endure a buster call this time

pulsar path
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I wanna see BB getting his crew tbh

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I feel like law and bb were to unfamiliar with each other's power

shadow python
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Lokis flashback the longest flashback in the series didnt even mention the one thing we knew about Loki prior to elbaf

iron oriole
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Eris, getting his crew, Rocky Port... everything that is "hidden" for BB will be revealed

frigid gulch
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Any Rocks fans in chat

pulsar path
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Like they took down a yonko level pirate or right below

frigid gulch
pulsar path
urban lodge
twilit escarp
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Harald is way too big

shadow python
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Kaido the big bad of the longest arc only got 3 pages of flashback time

twilit escarp
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For the cover

hot cairn
frigid gulch
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Harald can be on the next

frigid gulch
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This is about the Rocks Pirates BBWise

shadow python
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I dont have much confidence in flashbacks covering the information I'm after. It might be revealed in an sbs or vivre book

twilit escarp
urban lodge
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And 2/3 of them have 0 panels in God Valley

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Goda

frigid gulch
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Mm the last vol ended on 1155 iirc

pulsar path
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Lol glr destroying cannon with plot holes

twilit escarp
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God Valley was kinda short

urban lodge
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If it was just the top guys I get it

frigid gulch
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So there’s still some content

urban lodge
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Rocks, Wb, Kaido, Bm

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But no, it's basically all of them except Gil lol

shadow python
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God valley was fine considering it was a side story for the Shakky flashback

digital spear
frigid gulch
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Oda said Gil is washed

pulsar path
hot cairn
frigid gulch
digital spear
shadow python
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Even if it wasnt a side story it was great with a ton of hype moments being long doesnt mean its good

hot cairn
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ah

pulsar path
high wolf
small ember
frigid gulch
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The Rocks Pirates raiding thief island

pulsar path
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It's not done

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It's got one for stage they didn't show

hot cairn
twilit escarp
# pulsar path

Idk if the sizes are accurate but Gloriosa is damn tall and Shiki is damn short wtf

small ember
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Oda if you give us normal colors

hot cairn
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I didn’t notice

urban lodge
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Oda definitely forgot

twilit escarp
frigid gulch
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We got slightly robbed but

digital spear
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Wait lol

shadow python
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Does Whitebeard dye his mustache? Shouldnt it be the same colour as his hair?

frigid gulch
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It’s aight

digital spear
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There really is no Stussy?

urban lodge
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It wasn't a conscious decision

frigid gulch
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Ltussy

urban lodge
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For sure

pulsar path
shadow python
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You cant see her but Stussy is on the lower part of Wb

urban lodge
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Olda

twilit escarp
high wolf
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Oda legit forgot about her 😭

pulsar path
digital spear
cunning narwhal
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i knew it LETSJUCKINGGO

shadow python
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She always wanted to sail on the Moby

formal wagon
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oda dyes whitebeard's "beard" by hand each morning

small ember
urban lodge
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He does actually

pulsar path
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Why the fuck is wangshi in the middle

frigid gulch
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Whitebeard > Judge Jr.

digital spear
urban lodge
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Sandman posted some shit about him using chatgpt lol

formal wagon
twilit escarp
cunning narwhal
formal wagon
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wang zhi is the second most important character in that spread

shadow python
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Odas chatgpt search results: ways to draw manga with 2 hrs of sleep

urban lodge
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Goat Zhi (the only good Rocks pirate) deserves to be in the middle

pulsar path
frigid gulch
frozen ravine
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Wang zhi was the ussop of his crew

twilit escarp
urban lodge
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Look at that beautiful hair

frigid gulch
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That’s Wang drinking

digital spear
small ember
frigid gulch
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BB slimed him out

urban lodge
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Yeah

frigid gulch
small ember
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Spread the news—EVERY new chapter is AI generated

urban lodge
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There's also the ai fem Lucci incident

small ember
digital spear
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Cancel Oda

pulsar path
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Also this color spread

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Omg

digital spear
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Numbers

cunning narwhal
shadow python
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Clone Stussy is a fem Lucci. Betrayed her friends for the sake of her mission and live only to be a weapon for someone else

small ember
shadow python
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Clone Stussy was also Luccis first kiss

twilit escarp
# pulsar path

He's smaller than Kaido sitting so he's at max 2 meters

digital spear
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Good to know

pulsar path
shadow python
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Though it should be noted this is in spite of Jabras ex girlfriends attemts

pulsar path
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Love piece huh

tranquil blade
urban lodge
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It's sad that Caribou didn't inherit his dad's Hatsune Miku hair

shadow python
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Coribous hair is actually a live iguana

digital spear
urban kiln
twilit escarp
pulsar path
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Yo we speak English here no metric system 🤣

shadow python
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English is metric, maybe you mean American

twilit escarp
pulsar path
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That's the joke lol

pulsar path
shadow python
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How big is Momos dragon?

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It was smaller than him when he was a child but is significantly bigger than him to the point where Luffy can ride him now

torn kite
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Big mom was most likely pregnant with mont-d’Or on God Valley

iron oriole
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Good chance of it yeah

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He was born the year of GV at least

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So either born prior to it or she was pregnant during & he was born after

twilit escarp
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There's no reason for it to be smaller if it's exactly the same fruit with just a different color

signal fiber
shadow python
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We ser Momo transform in punk hazard and its small enough to be a scarf

ornate tartan
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watch loki not be as big as he was last chapter in 1175

shadow python
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Momo got 3 or 4 times bigger so it should be 3 or 4 times larger but its of a completely different scale now

iron oriole
signal fiber
urban lodge
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Shiki

shadow python
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The other idea is that the zoan size changes with the strength of the user. Which is evidenced by Kaidos original dragon transformation still being rather large and nothing like Momos first time.

torn kite
shadow python
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Even choppers forms seemed to get bigger as he got stronger looking much larger than he was pre time skip

signal fiber
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Wonder if any of the Rocks Pirates simped for Linlin

torn kite
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You know what I would’ve loved to see during the flashback big mom trying to seduce somebody that would’ve been cool to see

iron oriole
pulsar path
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I'm going to guess tho size is influenced by you?

signal fiber
pulsar path
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Like kaido might be bigger but he's also like huge

iron oriole
urban lodge
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Yeah I imagine your base size influences your transformation

shadow python
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That could work, however its not the case with other zoans. Choppee was a small child but his human form was roughly the same as it was when we see him in pre time skip

pulsar path
urban lodge
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Momo is still way bigger than a normal human but not Kaido sized

torn kite
twilit escarp
signal fiber
shadow python
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Given toki survived Oden was a small dragon so Momo became a small dragon

twilit escarp
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Now that i think of it Loki's dragon form is about the same size as Kaido's flaming drum dragon

iron oriole
signal fiber
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Loki is absurd in size I'm sure it won't be consistent

shadow python
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I dont think it is. Bajrang gun was about the same size and giant luffy is an ant to Loki

grand flower
signal fiber
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Yep

grand flower
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Mangaka kinda have to do that

shadow python
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Choppers size changed post time skip when he got stronger. But did not change significantly when he grew up

torn kite
iron oriole
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Yeah they cant always draw insanely huge characters for every panel

signal fiber
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I always forget that Kinemon is like 10 feet tall

grand flower
ornate tartan
iron oriole
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They gotta scale down & then it becomes "inconsistent"

scenic dirge
# signal fiber Loki is absurd in size I'm sure it won't be consistent

It won't be, but I think the intent is still there. It just won't be artistically depicted consistently as these things go. But he's definitely intended to be one of the biggest things in existence. It's like Zunesha. The official size of them isn't really relevant. They're simply meant to be unbelievably large

shadow python
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From that we can infer that Momos dragon got bigger not necessarily because he aged but because he got far stronger as he aged

iron oriole
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Idt Momo really got that much physically stronger instantly from Shinobu aging him

signal fiber
twilit escarp
scenic dirge
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The funniest Oda sizing was during Egghead man. Oda didn't give a FUCK and it was so good 😭

shadow python
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He did. Momo remarks multiple times that his body was tougher claiming getting attacked or thrown didnt hurt

urban lodge
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Bajrang gun was also hilariously inconsistent

signal fiber
iron oriole
scenic dirge
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😭

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Peak

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So good Oda

shadow python
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Giant luffy used Kaido as a jump rope. Luffy wasnt a giant during bajrang but just used the giant hand

twilit escarp
urban lodge
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With the gorosei it honestly doesn't really bother me, I headcanon that they can change their size, which wouldn't be too crazy

shadow python
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Think Yoru was designed for a non human?

signal fiber
iron oriole
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Personal mini Kaido sparring partner

scenic dirge
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Peter is just the size of the entire island all of a sudden

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I love it

shadow python
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It being so long probably wasnt for mihawks use. So someone else had yoru at first

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Its possible that someone else is also the one who made Yoru black but thats not here nor there

iron oriole
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Crazy how Yoru just doesn't change its size like all other swords

scenic dirge
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And that panel is certainly meant to convey the imposing doom of the Gorosei being right on their tail. I don't think it's literal whatsoever. They're drawn bigger to look like they're about to consume the good guys

twilit escarp
# scenic dirge 😭

It doesn't really seem off, i mean the perspective could be so that we see them at the same size but in reality the image you posted can be accurate

shadow python
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I think emma shrunk since it couldnt feed off of Odens CoC for 20 years

signal fiber
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Why Saturn such a baby, you know he was insecure when he got his Yokai form

shadow python
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But that doesnt explain Momos sword

high wolf
twilit escarp
scenic dirge
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Bruh

iron oriole
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I hope next time we see Momo he wields Ame no Habakiri

scenic dirge
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I find the size inconsistencies hilarious. It's not a complaint on my end. But you're crazy if you think Ju Peter in that spread is even remotely drawn to a similar scale as the panel I posted.

shadow python
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Why isnt he using it now?

grand flower
iron oriole
urban lodge
shadow python
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Yamato should take it

shadow python
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I didnt really like him using a club. Oden should use the 2 sword style

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Or at least use 2 club style

urban lodge
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The panel of Shanks stopping Akainu is really funny

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Koby looks 1 meter tall

scenic dirge
shadow python
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Boa standing on Salome to look taller is really cute

iron oriole
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Yamato has her kanabo

twilit escarp
shadow python
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You think Salome is a snake zoan user?

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It has a human skull head maybe its boas mom wearing the skull of her dead husband

iron oriole
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Bruh

scenic dirge
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"it's just a different perspective" and then he's literally the size of the island in the panel I posted lol. But yea, again, I don't mind it at all. It's funny, and there's also a possibility that their sizes are very dynamic. But this is also a known thing in this series due to the extreme size variations Oda uses for his characters. Luffy is always fighting some 20 foot dude when he's a normal sized human in the grand scheme of things

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It's hard

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But it makes the character designs of this world way more interesting and fun

signal fiber
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One week until the goat returns

scenic dirge
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Took me at least 5 seconds to realize he was there

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I thought you were talking about Akainu

signal fiber
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Nah I said the goat

shadow python
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Yeah why werent the gods knights at the war. Theyd have been really useful and Whitebeard is a legitimate threat having had knowledge of the one piece and having seen Imu back at god valley

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No one but whitebeard and Luffy could hurt them and luffy was a non factor

signal fiber
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Noone told Imu Whitey Bay was there. No blue haired chick = Imu sleeps

restive sierra
shadow python
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What do the knights even do?

grand flower
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Erororororo!

signal fiber
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If Imu really is in Lily's body, it's hilarious he pines over a picture of her as her

shadow python
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Summers is saying elbaf is an easy mission inferring that they do harder stuff all the time

restive sierra
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imu simps to blue haired girls

grand flower
twilit escarp
signal fiber
shadow python
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Imu will go after Nami in a bid to win over Nojiko

restive sierra
signal fiber
shadow python
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Shuri having a bright red nose would give her a connection to Chopper via rhe rudolph syndrome

signal fiber
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Shuri D. Clown still shake the nation

restive sierra
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nerona buggy

signal fiber
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I hope Oda has a bunch of weird relations trapped in his head. Bellamy is Killers brother. Why? Why not

shadow python
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Manmayer Buggy. It turns out all of those ships they sent after the roger pirates werent for Shanks but for Buggy instead

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Think Killer is Sanjis eldest brother Reiji. Its why he wears a mask to hide his distinctive eyebrows

signal fiber
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Soras estranged child with another father, Sommers

restive sierra
grand flower
signal fiber
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Every pink haired character is Linlins kid, even though almost none of her kids have pink hair

trim lily
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maybe pink isnt her natural hair

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shes been dyeing it since she was 5

signal fiber
dense rapids
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The Father
The Son
The Inheritor
The ProtogƩ

shadow python
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On the matter of Momos embarrassingly small dragon its worth noting the contxt in which Momo obtained the fruit. According to Lucci a user will learn the name of the devil fruit upon eating it (which was not the case with Luffy for what are now obvious reasons) but hearing of a dragon specifically the same type of dragon as Kaido would cause a trigger of fear and panic in Momo.

Momos initiak dragon was small and helpless because thats exactly how Momo felt at that time. And thats exactly how he felt when he emerged from Yamatos pants the only other time we saw him take that form.

However it was a very different set of circumstances after Shinobu aged him. Momo sought to be a large dragon like Kaido and believed that after he grew up he would be able to be so. And as a result because he imagined it it happened.

This unfortunately would infer that Momo didnt actually need Shinobus power to be a big dragon if he had just believed in himself instead. But damage is done

signal fiber
muted hedge
ornate tartan
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garling shanks shamrock luffy exist

muted hedge
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interesting

dense rapids
shadow python
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I dont exactly know what Rocks will was so i cant really say Buggy inherited it

signal fiber
dense rapids
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The Father
The Son
The Inheritor
The ProtogƩ

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Two sides of the same coin

signal fiber
ornate tartan
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so buggy is the luffy parallel

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interesting

dense rapids
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Shanks and Blackbeard

Buggy and Luffy

shadow python
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Rocks lost to Roger (and Garp)

Ace lost to BB

Luffy lost to Buggy (had to get saved by weather)

Loki lost to Shanks.

Seems pretty even

dense rapids
shadow python
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Like how Nami gets shown in the image. That orange town fight had her as the undisputed mvp

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They were even if not had Buggy winning until Nami got involved

signal fiber
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Buggy massacred Zoro in Orange Town establishing the clowns insane upward trajectory

shadow python
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Nami X Luffy is a winning tag team. Theres nothing those two cant handle together...except Lucci i guess

signal fiber
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Buggy scales to at the very least YC1+

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And could scar Kaido

muted hedge
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i've said it before and i'll say it again, Buggy should get rid of the red blanket

warm sierra
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Its very nice of buggy to let Mihawk and Crocodile bully him to upscale them

signal fiber
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He's letting Mihawk, Croc is actually stronger

muted hedge
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its so bland

signal fiber
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I don't like the blanket either

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Good for one time gimmick

tough igloo
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is Buggy the only yonko who didn’t get a new outfit once they became one ?

signal fiber
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Got the best boat though

tough igloo
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Teach got one
Luffy changes them all the time
Shanks pre yonko had different clothes
Kaido had a different fit pre yonko

signal fiber
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And Shanks hasn't changed clothes in 30 years

tough igloo
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Buggy still got that same warlord drip

signal fiber
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Modest king

urban lodge
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Yeah this Buggy drip ain't it

tawny panther
mental lake
muted hedge
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i know

tawny panther
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does anyone ever believe it lol

mental lake
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Not good for mobility though

muted hedge
mental lake
tawny panther
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i can’t wait to see what Buggy does when his greatest fear comes true and he actually runs i to another yonko lol

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how will he finesse his followers

ocean zinc
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Buggy is going to be yonko when he awakes his fruit

tawny panther
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that would just make him Temu Law .. why would that make him as strong as yonkos ? lol

muted hedge
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splitting anything sounds pretty overpowered

ocean zinc
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He is going to be like sukuna

tawny panther
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it does until oda involves haki to negate it lol

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like he did with Law

ocean zinc
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He is going to be doing shit like sukuna Domain expansion

tough igloo
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making Buggy awakening just be a basic attack for another character would be kinda sad

muted hedge
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well he wouldn't require any room to use it

tough igloo
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i mean i guess but don’t really change much

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law room goes up so quick it don’t even matter lol

ocean zinc
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He could cut mountains with zero difficulty

tough igloo
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like Law ? lol

muted hedge
tough igloo
ocean zinc
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Law needs room and it drains stamina

tough igloo
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in wano he made a room from
the ocean that covered onigashima so the scabbards could teleport and that was before any fighting started .. he then went on to fight 2 yonkos after that using his room even more

muted hedge
#

well, it still drains a lot of stamina

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he has just trained it

ocean zinc
#

Buggy will get conquer haki

tough igloo
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it doesn’t drain a lot of stamina unless he has to hold a room up for a long time like he told Doffy

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when he fights now he doesn’t hold rooms up for long times

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now he just throws a room at you without being in it

muted hedge
#

exactly, because it's stamina draining

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if it wasn't, he'd have a room up all the time

tough igloo
#

yeah if he has to hold it up for a long time like he did in dressrosa .. he has to hold it up for damn near half a hour in dressrosa .. he’s not doing that in regular fights

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when he fought big mom , kaido , blackbeard he wasn’t doing that at all

ocean zinc
#

Do you think law will get conquer haki

tough igloo
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probably not cause Oda just gives his DF new broken abilities each time we see him that does what haki can do

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like Luffy needed ryou for internal damage then Oda gave Law a ability that can bypass defense and attack from the inside like ryou

ocean zinc
#

He probably will fight holy knights

tough igloo
#

oh yeah he’ll be involved in the big fights in the war .. fighting people stronger than HKs more than likely since been fighting yonkos lately

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i can’t see Oda having him from fighting 3 yonkos back to back to back to fighting HKs in the end lol

ocean zinc
#

Oda has shown that the strongest characters are focused more on haki than DF

tough igloo
#

not really .. we just got Loki who’s using 2 DF abilities , HKs & Gorosei all have abilities outside of haki including Imu , Blackbeard , Rocks flat out said he needed two DFs even with all the haki he had

ocean zinc
#

They all have conquer haki

wraith mantle
tough igloo
#

HKs dont aside from Harald

hot cairn
ocean zinc
#

After his fight with blackbeard he is going to train his haki cause this is one of his weaknesses

tough igloo
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my poimt is Oda always finds way to give Law DF new abilities that others need haki to do .. so he can not give Law CoC and still have Law beat people with Imu power due to his DF always getting upgraded

tough igloo
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that’s all that’s left for him to train since he mastered his DF and awakened it

muted hedge
#

he did use haki to deactivate Doc Q's "sickness"

tough igloo
#

yeah his haki isn’t trash

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it’s just it can be better

ocean zinc
#

Chopper is stronger than doc Q

tough igloo
#

him negating it with haki was a big deal cause Doc Q talked about how only someone with 3 billion bounty could do that .. only others we’ve seen do it are yonkos. (kaido & big mom ) .. but his haki can still be much better

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his DF is already broken , now it’s time to work on your haki lol

ocean zinc
#

Also his crew managed to get rid of the sickness and they are fodder

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Except bepo

tough igloo
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it’s cause of Law .. that’s stated

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Law haki cured everybody on the ship from Doc Q ability

ocean zinc
#

Is sanji going to get conquer in the next few chapters

vale heath
#

Next few, maybe not. Eventually? Yeah maybe

hot cairn
vale heath
#

This is the kind of content I need

muted hedge
#

i want a spin off about Zeff

grand flower
#

But that’s gonna be luffys next focus yeah

grand flower
ocean zinc
#

Law will fight probably holy knight doflamingo

clever idol
muted hedge
clever idol
#

Shouldve had him looking east

muted hedge
vale heath
quiet ice
# muted hedge damn

The cloak looks too pristine. Like some high quality fabric. Should look rough

muted hedge
#

also there should be more cloak

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like on the front

quiet ice
#

Yeah

muted hedge
restive lintel
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🐐

grand flower
#

YSL for life

grand flower
#

What was big mom saying

glacial bear
#

Stussy was in hiding. That’s why she didn’t appear in the volume cover BBWise

glacial bear
wraith mantle
glacial bear
#

The joke obviously being the reason Stussy isn’t seen on the volume cover is because she’s hiding in Whitebeard’s coat

hot cairn
summer obsidian
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he's milking it

cold steppe
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At least the arrow is not red

strong wadi
distant vine
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And he doesnt really milk it, its just a long story

vale heath
#

new strat
green arrows

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next we'll use a blue circle

summer obsidian
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a reupload hmmm ShanksHmmm good strat

ornate tartan
deep chasm
#

people will hate but I fully believe he beat loki 1v1 and when kaido showed up they had a clash and he at least showed he could match kaido 1v1

trim lily
#

at this point i wouldnt doubt it

wraith mantle
deep chasm
#

fr

trim lily
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though i dont like the idea of shanks sending kaido back through force

deep chasm
#

I mean kaido could have left for multiple reasons

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like he couldve tussled with shanks a bit, realized that shanks could match him (but still thinks he would win), and decided because that'd be a hassle and whatever other reason, hes just gonna leave

trim lily
#

yeah i guess

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shame we'll probably never get to see or learn more about it

deep chasm
#

yea at best we'll get an sbs question or like have it as a small part of a flashback

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The Loki situation I think theres a chance we actually see though

trim lily
#

we should see it and the lola stuff

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i dont know where else you would put it so i expect a second (smaller) flashback or something near the end of this arc

ornate tartan
deep chasm
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The Lola incident isnt real

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Big mom made it up cuz she wanted to hate on her daughter

trim lily
#

ive been waiting to see the lola incident ever since we learned we're going to elbaf, ill be damned if i let oda pretend it never happened like he will with the heaven realm

deep chasm
#

oda trying to convince me loki fell in love with Lola

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šŸ„€

trim lily
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i mean how can you reasonably not

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look at him

ornate tartan
#

gaban gave luffy the key

trim lily
#

i dont know if i believe luffy or gaban could beat this loki

deep chasm
#

gaban definitely not

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Luffy maybe depending on how the narrative is going forward

ornate tartan
#

that is what people are trying to portray him as

golden valley
#

We just gotta realize that Yonko have narratively been the top dogs since the start for a while

trim lily
#

im not even a powerscaler but genuinely what are you supposed to do against a 600ft long death dragon

golden valley
#

It was already a red flag that Shanks capturing him was something mentioned as Shanks hype

trim lily
#

the size is silly even by oda standards

craggy vapor
somber flare
#

I would like to think Luffy and Loki are on the same level

golden valley
#

Loki will be above the emperors come final war but ion think hes there yet

trim lily
deep chasm
# craggy vapor

random thought is that theyre some dream shit Vegapunk was talking about

#

like oh dreams ended up making fruits

trim lily
#

would be kinda interesting if the current wave of devil fruits were man made

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humanity found some original natural one and industrialized it (which then lead to their destruction)

ornate tartan
#

What’s the chances of Imu changing forms thru gunko

craggy vapor
#

I’m gonna write a master thesis about the mural

trim lily
#

80 pages might be tough but good luck

deep chasm
#

I mean rn either Loki is in fact the 2nd strongest thing alive and stronger than like any character born in the past 800 years. Or some of his feats are being misinterpreted, and so we could agree hes a top tier but have no clue where in that tier he lands

ornate tartan
deep chasm
#

if you think the feats are consistent and accurate he does appear to be #2 just behind imu, but if you think theyre not then we can have more discussion

trim lily
#

imu had a weird hybrid with saturn in god valley

golden valley
somber flare
#

Don't think Oda was considering the powerscaling chain line when doing the whole Ragnir thing

deep chasm
#

same

trim lily
#

ragnir w

ornate tartan
#

every gear eventually gets rid of the drawback

deep chasm
#

oda was just chatting

ornate tartan
#

gear 5 won’t be any different

somber flare
#

I don't think the drawback is that bad

golden valley
golden valley
trim lily
#

im glad he didnt cause its very funny to imagine this stupid squirrel is in like the top 10 strongest things of one piece

ornate tartan
#

i don’t think there’s another gear after this one

trim lily
#

probably not another gear but i think we'll get one more form

#

we've still got a ways to go before the end

deep chasm
#

the drawback is pretty bad. Especially an issue cuz he spams g5

somber flare
#

When Luffy is in a dire situation we've seen him push past the limits of gear 5. He was never put in that position on Egghead.

ornate tartan
#

the misconception of gear 2 shortening luffy lifespan is because at the time he was first using it his body couldn’t handle it yet

somber flare
#

There isn't anybody Luffy can't deal with that he would otherwise without the drawback

deep chasm
deep chasm
#

and he had plenty of reason to try hard in egghead

somber flare
#

either that or Rocks and Harald are severely overrated

trim lily
#

ragnir probably wasnt stronger than harald (older), i assume harald just didnt bother trying to get ragnir after he met ida

deep chasm
#

If he has no drawback he's dealing with kizaru lol

golden valley
#

Being a Kaido level opponent for 10+ minutes is kinda of a huge deal if that cant be maintained. Big Mom outlasts him, Shanks outlasts him, Blackbeard outlasts him, heck even Admirals have an argument

deep chasm
ornate tartan
#

ragnir isn’t top 5

golden valley
#

Lufyf needs to be at a point where he can sustain his strongest form cuz G4 aint it

ornate tartan
#

ppl need to pump the brakes on this

deep chasm
#

I think kizaru is actually the perfect example. Even if we think Kizaru was acting when he was on the ground from white star. If Luffy has no time limit, he's beating kizaru

golden valley
#

If Oda had G4 go high diff with admirals

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Id understand

#

But he didn’t even do that

deep chasm
golden valley
#

Yep

ornate tartan
#

if you consider ragnir that strong then you would also have to put 16 year old loki with a normal hammer over rocks d xebec harald and the versions of roger garp and whitebeard in the flashback. does that make sense?

deep chasm
ornate tartan
#

I believe Harald never challenged that thing

trim lily
#

well he didnt really beat ragnir in a fight

#

he just hurt him

#

which i guess was enough, or oda skipped past something

ornate tartan
#

300 years ago Jarul was the strongest on the seas

somber flare
deep chasm
ornate tartan
#

that’s what was told to us by Hajrudin

deep chasm
#

hajrudin is stupid

somber flare
#

Kizaru couldn't even really do anything to Luffy

deep chasm
golden valley
deep chasm
#

Luffy finally hits kizaru once and is down due to time limit

ornate tartan
# deep chasm hajrudin is stupid

now if that’s the strongest giant in elbaph at any point in time could you see why no one could stop ragnir and harald thought it was pointless

deep chasm
#

if theres no time limit, luffy would win

ornate tartan
#

the fact that jarul was ever considered the strongest giant is crazyšŸ˜‚ he’s not even an ancient giant

trim lily
#

jarul w

deep chasm
#

the giants were ass before harald was born

somber flare
#

people say Kizaru could just kill Luffy when he was "at his limit" yet we have literally seen him push past that against Kaido when it was absolutely needed. Kizaru was literally done fighting him at that point which is why he didn't need to do it

trim lily
#

he got strong through his own effort instead of being born biologically stronger

ornate tartan
trim lily
#

this is foreshadowing how hajrudin will surpass loki

golden valley
deep chasm
# somber flare people say Kizaru could just kill Luffy when he was "at his limit" yet we have l...

And yet in an intense situation he didnt do that in egghead. Even if he could, you cant assume doing some extra pushing allows luffy hours of fighting.

Kizaru was done fighting, and so was luffy for all we know. Luffy had reasons to try and get up, but instead needed to be fed BY KIZARU to get up, so you cant even confirm that kizaru was actually done.

You can't guarantee luffy beats kizaru in a fight, but if he had unlimited g5 he certainly woukd

wraith mantle
#

imu has to fail at her mission, because i just cant have elbaf fall into slavery, not after harald's and loki's sacrifices

deep chasm
solid mantle
#

so #manga is fruit scaling, what's up yall

wraith mantle
#

also the god of liberation is literally present, i doubt luffy's presence would allow slavery to take place

golden valley
#

Luffy played too much against Kizaru that ended up dragging the fight. Luffy does have a win condition by just pancaking him and tossing him in the ocean but he only did that towards the end where Kizaru was conveniently saved by ships.

ornate tartan
somber flare
#

I think Luffy beats Kizaru guaranteed in a isolated 1v1 regardless of normal or unlimited stamina

deep chasm
#

again I think the feats and statements are misleading and we'll be shown this one day. But there is genuinely weird scaling going on

#

and we have to acknowledge that the statements and feats exist

golden valley
#

Then again, I do think Egghead Luffy is full of plot induced stupidity. I think if you put Wano Luffy mindset against Kizaru, he’s taking that more times than not

golden valley
trim lily
#

good

somber flare
#

The problem with Ragnir and the whole Harald thing is that the thing got one shot by Loki with a temu hammer. Unless you want to say that Loki is ridiculously stronger than anyone we've ever seen besides Imu then strength probably isn't the sole reason why it chose Loki

#

pre devil fruit Loki as well

golden valley
#

Hajrudin will just get a god fruit like Loki

#

Boom equals

somber flare
#

Nah Hajruden got DNA diffed

deep chasm
#

I mean we're shown it choosing loki because it got injured badly

#

sometimes being one shot doesnt mean it wasnt close

#

I believe part of the point of us seeing loki lose his weapon is to show if ragnir kept fighting, loki was gonna lose

#

so thats effectively a very close fight

somber flare
#

maybe it saw potential rather than pure strength that Harald couldn't reach

deep chasm
#

and yea...the feats and statements at face value would indicate loki may just be the strongest thing born in the past 800 years

deep chasm
#

the turning point of ragnir submitting was due to getting hit real hard

golden valley
#

i hate loki vs harald talks so much atp, I just cant wrap my head around it fully and it doesn’t help that shanks makes things more complicated ICANT

#

So much so, I’d probably prefer if Shanks just jumped Loki

deep chasm
#

if anythign the options are

  • hes strongest in past 800 years
  • rocks and harald scaling is off and maybe we've overrated them
  • rocks and harald are that strong but loki isnt top 2, oda just forgot how to portray power
somber flare
#

I hope Shanks beat him up rather than just being the talk no jutsu merchant

ornate tartan
#

yessir

deep chasm
#

no talk no jutsu is making loki lock himself up Im sure

golden valley
#

If Loki’s Haki is the reason Harald got killed, that’d make things even more complicated

deep chasm
#

its more a debate if shanks 1v1 beat him or did he jump him/use unfair methods

trim lily
#

maybe attacking anything WG affiliated, good or bad (and forcing shanks to intervene before the WG does)

ornate tartan
#

the fact that ppl think loki can be talked out of taking revenge for his father is hillariousšŸ˜‚

#

he’s always going to do things his way

golden valley
#

Gaban glazing Immortal Harald didn’t help either

#

I think its safe to say, Loki mightve broken the powerscaling to some extent

trim lily
#

i dont think i could believe shanks somehow talking loki into willingly imprisoning himself

#

though maybe hes the worlds greatest guilt tripper

ornate tartan
#

what reason does loki have to lie here to shamrock and gunko

#

he didn’t agree to anything

golden valley
#

If Loki was smarter, he would’ve agreed to Shamrock and Gunko deal, then cooked them SanjiSmart

deep chasm
#

if nothing else, Loki wasnt joking when he said he'll take out a crew of luffys choosing

#

we'd be seeing BB running for his life ig

#

story over

trim lily
#

i actually think bb could beat him lol

golden valley
#

Well Loki would need to head to Hachinosu to find him

#

And loki aint finna win that

deep chasm
#

well yes Id like to believe BB could beat him too

golden valley
#

Bb and Kuzan

somber flare
#

Blackbeard would definitely jump him

ornate tartan
deep chasm
#

but theres also a world rn where BB is not beating him

golden valley
#

Are too much

trim lily
golden valley
urban lodge
#

Bb would win because he's a fate merchant

deep chasm
trim lily
#

loki w

ornate tartan
#

it won’t happen

trim lily
#

he can be our new protagonist

ornate tartan
#

Imu isn’t going to lose this early

somber flare
#

Blackbeard would never fight Loki 1v1 regardless of whether he could win or not

wraith mantle
#

wonder how loki's admiration of rocks will tie into this imu encounter

trim lily
#

imu will probably ragebait him with it

deep chasm
ornate tartan
#

either imu is going to leave willingly, get forced out of gunko body, or win

if imu loses here to loki and luffy or doesnt do something substantial to the good ppl side I will be shocked

golden valley
#

Oh yeah

#

Imu did that too

leaden rivet
urban lodge
#

He'll get domi reversi'd just like his idol except Nika is here to save him

deep chasm
#

Imu thinks its not possible for anyone to beat harald

#

crazy work

digital spear
#

W Harald

golden valley
#

And if its because of Haki that Harald fully died

golden valley
#

Then it’s really over

deep chasm
wraith mantle
#

uh will yall be ok if luffy's df gives the ability to cancel domi reversi?

trim lily
#

i expect it

golden valley
#

Whitebeard, Roger and Garp do not have the Haki

trim lily
#

i dont like domi reversi so ill take whatever i can to get rid of it

deep chasm
#

Convincing Kaido to not fight in something he was excited for is more reaosnable than convincing loki to not avenge his dead father and additionally to lock himself up indefinitely

leaden rivet
#

Well Loki still has human feelings and a heart

#

This battle is all Kaido ever wanted

deep chasm
#

Thats exactly why you would be less likely to convince him lol

#

Loki was doing it because its avenging his father

trim lily
#

what if shanks promised him something greater in the future

deep chasm
#

Kaido is just like oh this could be an amazing fight

wraith mantle
#

if shanks shared some lore with loki he could potentially persuade him

#

like telling loki that you need to protect elbaf at all costs

deep chasm
#

kaido is looking for any huge fight, Im sure he was really hoping to be at marineford, but its not like that specific situation has been on his mind.

Loki has been specifically planning to get revenge for his dad. And I think we're leaving out that loki is chained up

ornate tartan
deep chasm
#

how could shanks possibly convince loki to chain himself up indefinitely 😭

rugged ore
#

I wonder if loki will recognize luffy as nika

golden valley
#

Pretty obvious there

wraith mantle
rugged ore
urban lodge
#

Pretty weird that we didn't see his reaction to gear 5

trim lily
#

we probably will later

wraith mantle
#

but yeah being chained is counter intuitive to protecting the place lmao

ornate tartan
# trim lily i meant shanks to kaido lol

oh sorry

in Kaido case u could make an argument that’s better, but unless he specifically told him joyboy is coming to wano in 2 years i don’t think Kaido would have cared

deep chasm
rugged ore
#

Its possible loki was rampaging so shanks made a deal with wg

ornate tartan
potent pier
ornate tartan
#

too early for that

trim lily
#

i mean we already know how it does

#

we'll learn the rest when we find out its weakness/counter here

rugged ore
trim lily
#

literally

#

imu is just a warlock at this point

potent pier
#

I think the homeland question will be asked

trim lily
#

sorry best we can do is 4 questions regarding cup sizes or genital sizes

rugged ore
#

So the kids are no longer controlled by the arrow right?

trim lily
#

yeah

ornate tartan
#

he doesn’t answer the good questions that might spoil some manga answers or mysteries

trim lily
#

they reached the end of it

ornate tartan
#

instead he will answer a question from sanada

deep chasm
potent pier
gloomy tree
trim lily
#

i think its more likely shanks acted first so loki wouldnt meet the same fate as his father when the WG acted on him

rugged ore
ornate tartan
potent pier
#

Like the homeland one would be a perfect SBS question

deep chasm
trim lily
#

i wonder if homeland is a decently big theory in the japanese community

rugged ore
gloomy tree
trim lily
#

hell they tried to kill him here, almost succeeded

gloomy tree
#

and even then he probably wouldnt do it

rugged ore
#

Esp while chained up

potent pier
fallen meteor
#

if the homeland thing is how it works for sure he wont talk in a SBS

#

this is a manga thing

gloomy tree
fallen meteor
#

SBS is for not actually plot relevant stuff

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or at least minor plot relevancy

ornate tartan
deep chasm
deep chasm
fallen meteor
#

its a theory

rugged ore
gloomy tree
#

people want the crazy answers but also dont want them because they want them to be answered in the story

deep chasm
final trench
#

That we know of

rugged ore
trim lily
deep chasm
#

like theres rlly no one from WG whos beating loki and Imu isnt showing up

final trench
#

He got a special bounty so at the time they probably wanted him dead

trim lily
#

gave him a special bounty, whatever that means

deep chasm
ornate tartan
#

getting anything extra about the story is better then nothing

deep chasm
#

if he could beat harald back then whats he doing to sommers now

rugged ore
trim lily
rugged ore
#

Together

deep chasm
#

like

#

all 8 god knights vs just loki

#

I dont think Imu is ever sending out every single one of them

final trench
#

Loki’s mauling them

rugged ore
#

Or even just a buster call or admiral.

somber flare
#

Loki wins

trim lily
rugged ore
#

They did it for rocks.

gloomy tree
somber flare
#

Shamrock will probably be the only one worth considering a real fight

deep chasm
#

wym

#

or you mean buster call my bad

#

yea that aint working either 😭

#

Look all Im saying is I dont think this was some deal with WG by shanks. He would have no reason to worry that WG was gonna kill Loki realistically

#

I cant imagine hes like "yea Im worried about sommers and killingham killing loki, so let me lock him up as part of a deal"

rugged ore
#

They def could have. 100p have the resources if he was making a stir

trim lily
#

oh wait loki killing harald would be public knowledge

deep chasm
#

but like...who? an admiral is probably not enough

trim lily
#

so imu would know he’s the one responsible

deep chasm
#

3 holy knights is also probably not enough

rugged ore
#

Especially since he knows about the abyss/contract

final trench
#

Shanks knows imu exists, and he knows what happens if you get marked

restive sierra
rugged ore
deep chasm
ornate tartan
#

the video about blackbeard using his fruit to awaken the red line/serpent was interesting and fits his chaotic nature

final trench
#

When loki says he’s going to take revenge we see shanks get angry

jade rain
deep chasm
#

being immortal does not matter to loki clearly

deep chasm
rugged ore
#

Loki vs the wg def would be a win for the wg

deep chasm
#

Yes if its the entire wg

#

its not a win if theyre sending 2-3 holy knights after him

#

thats rlly a huge difference here. Loki trying to one man army his way through 8 holy knights, admirals, gorosei, and imu eventually is obviously not gonna work

rugged ore
#

I mean they can send whoever they want against him. Point is shanka didnt want him dead

deep chasm
#

and theres almost no one who can beat him

#

2 holy knights is not killing him

ornate tartan
#

shanks didn’t stop loki only to not get him killed, there has to be a bigger reason then that and we will get the context soon

deep chasm
#

there'd have to be enough reason for shanks to worry that Imu can casually take this guy out if he wants

somber flare
#

They would never want to send everyone to fight Loki because even when they win he would kill like half of them in the process

deep chasm
#

which imu cant with his resources

deep chasm
somber flare
#

That goes for just about everyone I guess

tranquil blade
#

The only thing I wonder is why didnt they send knights in the moment Loki got chained up, unless they only learned about it like 6 years later

deep chasm
#

realistically I think thats something we'll never know, and its probably just for plot convenience

#

so Luffy would be around when this is happeniing

jade rain
deep chasm
#

I think it makes perfect sense if Shanks realized Loki was about to attack holy land, and realized okay this wont work, and its better to save your efforts for a later time. And so he sent him packing

jade rain
deep chasm
#

agreed, shanks' role in the series is probably just setting things up to work out

#

so he set up luffy with the nika fruit, he gets info from holy land

#

then he pushes loki back into elbaf knowing he was gonna attack at the wrong time

#

all works out

jade rain
#

Hence called the child of prophecy ig

deep chasm
#

yea

grand flower
glacial bear
#

lol my bad

somber rivet
#

Being drunk on a Saturday night is for the best.

vital heart
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Aloha!

vital heart
grand flower
grand flower
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Drinking is kinda awful

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But being drunk?

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I’m so glad I’m not an alcoholic

vital heart
grand flower
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Drinking is great

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Any children reading this, be like your alcoholic dad

hushed egret
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okay i will

grand flower
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Great

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The higher the proof, the better it tastes

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Shoot for 90

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At least

hushed egret
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u want me to die

dark nymph
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this is why discord is getting face id smh

grand flower
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Gotta make the most of it while I can

trim lily
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shuron loves the smooth taste of isopropyl alcohol

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formal wagon
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one proof under 90 might as well be water

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frigid gulch
fallen meteor
frigid gulch
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Same

stone terrace
small ember
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Oda…

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Its loud ill say that much

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Fitting for the character

frigid gulch
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Looks like crap

fluid cedar
stone terrace
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It was odas concepts

frigid gulch
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Doesn’t seem like mocking

hazy turret
grand flower
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It’s just red

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Piru rocks

tranquil blade
grand flower
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Red is one of my favorite colors so maybe I

small ember
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Wonder what the worst OP color scheme is

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Honorable mention is Mihawk’s new fit

formal wagon
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the mcdonalds fit

small ember
formal wagon
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idk im just hating

small ember
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Yeah I could feel the malice

formal wagon
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ā¤ļø

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pure scaffold
pure scaffold
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Peam pfp bro lol

formal wagon
fallen meteor
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woahh

pure scaffold
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Hope y'all are doing alright

formal wagon
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also W beelzemon pfp

fallen meteor
fallen meteor
pure scaffold
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And workplace stress lol

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That's why I'm mostly offline lately

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Wbu guys?

pure scaffold
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Just had a makeover on this acc's profile

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But enough about me! Are y'all hanging out alright?

fallen meteor
# pure scaffold Wbu guys?

been fine mostly
just chilling and dreading the next week since its post-carnaval week and the year is actually starting šŸ™

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wet condor
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Not that crazy about it

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It's eccentric though. This one of those moments where I can say that the scheme is fitting and good in that sense, but also I would've preferred something else

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Overall grateful we didn't get rainbow Rocks though

tranquil blade
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Well the final color ended up just being black im pretty sure

wet condor
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Oh

tranquil blade
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The red was one of the wip colors Oda did but he changed it

ashen perch
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Oda used the red as a base color for his pants

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He was color testing, trying to give his black outfit a red tint

urban lodge
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Oda forgetting Stussy is so funny

tranquil blade
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Gil Bastar is genuinely like a ghost the guy basically doesnt even exist

ashen perch
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I guess until we see the final cover we won't know for sure but it does look like he decided against the red tint at the end, but thats all it was

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You can briefly see what Oda was doing with the red, he was mixing it with the black and it looked good

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I hope the final colors are like this, better than just all black

leaden rivet
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Gloriosa in front as if she put in any work Smilers

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