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i mean sure, if that's better
though i guess imu might want to go for the kill considering the threat brook poses now
definitely
if he doesnt get saved it will be saturn all over again
imu can atomize brook if he wants but will suddenly forget how to fight
i feel like we'll see Brook laying on the ground next chapter, maybe even scattered across the ground
he won't be dead though, given he is a skeleton someone will just rebuild him
pretty much
Predictions for next chapter?
Hopefully Luffy and Loki arrive, but I think that's gonna be the following chapter
I can't wait to see Loki go all out and Luffy just going: "ooooooooh that's cool, looks fun" then turns into gear 5 and joins him
probably a couple chapters away tbh
yeah it'll be fun to see
the moment when Loki sees Luffy go gear 5 will be a moment for sure
nah, he will finish Imu and find the One Piece himself
Oda if he made this scene good:
frogstare
he's eating bart
she looks very 'mom at her phone' here
Shes reading
I actually have this artwork as a folder. They sell them in Japan. Beautiful scene
1177
She's reading my love letter to her
Did you write it in chicken scratch
that's so cool
Fuck dude we need a man like usopp in the office right now
I think I got it last time I was there, maybe 2-3 years ago now
Radioactive Ussop
I wrote it in a very neat calligraphy
Elephants foot afflicted usopp for president
dunno why she did that to me
Lucky youu
Found it! 😸
They sold them at the one-piece stores in Tokyo. You probably can find them online somewhere
Oo i see
Better start looking
I like your nails !
Thank you! The other hand reverses the colors.
Ohh that’s fun, I love complementing designs
Why is it so hard to read for her
cataracts
Moria never taught her
Aren't those the things that horses eat?
yo yc can you mute me for 6 hours?
why do you want to be muted?
you still haven't bet, you just came up with a suggestion
Rules will be the same as what u did with cyg
I forgot what it was tho since you never picked what you thought
stupid fr0nsen. it's obvious that he will appear
not really
hors e
I'm doing a bit
Oh lol
Where is Killy anyway? Maybe he can help clean up Sommers mess?
I did the same when I bet with cyg
Yes
No I see them splitting into two groups, nami will go one way with Usopp and Sanji will go with Robin to the Library.
Yes
I've infected your brain
What in the yes and yes sandwich is that
I do wonder...did Shamrock specifically send for Sommers, because he knew he was a screw-up and in a roundabout way that would help the giants? 🤔
He only expected 1 of the 2 to come, so if the one he had called was Sommers rather than Killingham, it would be an interesting idea and twist on his part.
OP fans don’t know what a damsel in distress is
Gunko being a former princess and being possessed doesn’t really count tbh
i definitely think that he was suggesting for Killingham to come, given KIllinghams ability being the perfect one for the situation
Sommers came as Shamrocks replacement, as Shamrock was needed in Marijoa
you're cooked no matter what. I believe in the heart of the one piece

Eh, it depends on how she's handled. I can see her becoming one, but that's not necessarily always a bad thing.
You’re thinking of carrots. Cataracts is a type of car
Also Gunko is a very active presence right now, unlike say Sleeping Beauty
If we see a fight between sommers and those giants I'm sure I'll win nyehe TwT
I guess it depends. Sommers power is actually also needed since he's the one keeping the giants from touching and rescuing the kids. Killy is more of an extra protection, so it can be the other way around
you know Oda never lingers in one place
No, those are heavy cavalry invented by the Persians. You’re thinking of Sassafrass.
Brook beefing with Gunko was not something I expected
wonder when we will get brook gunko flashback
You killed my mentor! You bastard!
yeah, they both have very fitting abilities for the situation like you say
and i wonder if its gonna be a long one
Not as long as Harald and Rocks that’s for sure
I hope and pray not soon
Would not be shocked if it’s saved for later
No flashback for another 30 more chapters oda
Not every damsel is a sleeping beauty, you can have an active damsel in distress too. Also, if she's been under duress this entire time (even if she's unaware of it) and was in trouble with no one to turn to when she was young and accused of her father's murder, that would still make her a damsel and in distress.
has to be soon to make the fight against gunko like meaningful for brook
Guys are we gonna just ignore that fact that usopp can move things with his mind
it already is meaningful just from the little we know
No a flashback is not necessary for making a flashback meaningful
I'm saying I disagree
I don't think robin is getting free this soon
also since there will be a sanji and sommers fight he is not going to the library that wld be jimbei if anyone tags along with robin
Robin will probably be freed by Sanji, once Sanji kicks Sommers out of orbit
Nooooooo
Not summers
for that he needs to go after the kids
this brook hatred for gunko has to be a misunderstanding
fights based on misunderstandings are not meaningful
imo at least
and I'm pretty sure nami is going to tag along with him it will be a 2v1 getting converted into a 1v1
even if it is a misunderstanding, it's still important to Brook since he wants to avenge his mentor figure
Wait is sommers that one unc that got his arm chopped off by gaban right
he got chopped in half, yes
MU REQUIRES BLUE HAIRED PRINCESSES
Wait then how is he not dead
have you read the manga?
i don't mean to sound rude, but it's explained
I forgot😭
it's due to the covenant that has been granted by Imu
nevermind dw thigh
Ohh got it
Imma go and check where tf we saw killy last
he has been in the air for the most part
Why is that gif so satisfying to watch
We just saw him last chapter
hard to specifically pinpoint his location
brook fighting gunko now is like haj fighting loki before we heard loki's part of the story
pointless
That was just a panel with no info on where he was
Parallel to Loki
he's been kind of in the air
Hear me out
Yeah but I meant like nearby where
i guess he has been relatively nearby the rest of the domi reversi army?
so, closest to Zoro i suppose
Killy's been leading the nightmares around
do you really think that?
Yeah
Eustass kid
Hm?
Killingham
that guy who died like 50 chapters ago?
You want killingham to kill Kid a second time?
I hope that's the case
Killingham vs Zoro and Sanji vs Sommers is basically already guaranteed to me, i'd be shocked if it doesn't play out
The horse dude?
Nvm
HIM????????
Killingham is a dragon dinosaur
I kinda forgot everything except the last 5 chapter
I hope they don't initially start with 1v1s
how do you want it to play out?
i wonder who will tell brook about what truly happened to gunko
I will.
doubt gunko will survive to tell the tale
It maybe the fact that I've been reading a lot of Agatha Christie lately, but I kinda want Oda to throw a twist and have Sanji take on Killingham
whenever Gunko is out of Imu's possession, i assume that they themselves will spill the details
He’s part of the Ryu Ryu class
Just a mythical model
Those are dinosaurs
He’s got flame clouds like a dragon
So he’s a dragon Doji
Dino*
ryu means dragon though
gunko out of imu's possession will face the same fate as Saturn
It’s what they call dinosaurs in japan
She will just get old. She won't die
I think since Imu's now expecting it, he's going to take a much firmer hold. And I don't think Gunko is trying to help anyone other than Brook, and that was just so he doesn't get killed
Saturn had 400+ years catch up to him at once
i still wouldn't count him as a dinosaur, but i see your reasoning
Gunko will have like 50
Check and see what the other Ryu Ryu fruits are
It's also what they call dragons
And the other Ryu Ryu in OP are what?
that's very much so, i just think that Luffy will eventually let Gunko be freed by Imu's possession and that's when she'll have time to spill the truth to Brook, assuming that she doesn't die from the outcome like Harald and Rocks did before her
i know that they're dinosaurs, i just can't see 'kirin' the creature as a dinosaur
but yeah ryu is interchangable dragon and dino, i guess
Usopp zoro haj - killingham
Nami sanji chopper - sommers
Jimbei robin - library
Chopper and nami later on - after the kids
Haj and usopp later on - deals with dr giants
Idk about franky
Everything changes once loki gets dr'd
Oda just started changing dinos to dragons. I think of it was a japanese homograph
i hope so, i just have a bad gut feeling after both Rocks and Harald were obliterated
Zoro's getting dormi next chap tho
i think there’s a decent chance she gets out of imu’s control but gets aged up to like 80
Those 2 have very different situations
yeah that's possible
Sometimes he means dinosaur and sometimes he means dragon. All about the context
That such a bad ability limit
a bad limit for a bad ability
lmao
It's useless anywhere else
the Japanese word for dinosaur includes the word for Western dragon in it
all of them were in a way controlled by Imu
so i think that Gunko facing a tragic yet happy end would be fitting
being freed from Imu's control while finally being able to tell Brook the truth of what happened
But their deaths are vastly different reasons
totally
she does have a covenant i imagine
just how important was gunko's father for imu to get involved personally
That depends. We're assuming that Imu can't just kill you rather than simply let you grow old and die. We're talking about a deal with the devil, those never go well
Imu will abandon her rather than take any sort of blow back from her dying
he doesn't get blowback, if he does it himself
seems like Imu takes a blow no matter if they're directly possessing the person with the covenant or not, given Harald was let go in the end and they faced pushback from his death when Loki struck him
lets see the etymology for woop slap please
i think that whatever the kingdom they ruled, is what Imu was after
yup
Before losing control again
in the end Harald was let go of Imu's control for the brief moment when Loki struck him down
that's why he didn't strike back in the latter end of the confrontation
I imagine Gunko is being possessed by Imu in a similar way that Saruman was possessing King Theoden

is that #other-series or #western-series
okay nerds
I think he only feels it if the connection was a strong one and it's one that he's not expecting. That's why he feels Harald's but not Saturns, and doesn't feel it at all with a person who has been DR. He also doesn't feel it unless they actually die. He doesn't feel injuries.
i think they didn't feel Saturn because Saturn's death was their own doing
He took everything away from Saturn and abandoned him
This making his 400+ years catch up to him
He did not abandon Harold, harold simply took control again for a moment before death
He still had all the pact power
That would make sense as I doubt Imu wouldn't be able to kill his own men. If that was the case, those who make the contract with Imu could hold that over his head. "You can't kill me, because it would hurt you" kind of thing.
yeah, i definitely think that Imu has them in a tight grip when they have a covenant on their soul
Hereld
So Gunko will be abandoned
By Imu cause loki will be about to smite them
And Imu don't want the blowback
That's what we're assuming. I think he could just as easily kill a younger servant too. Like Sommers for example, who is way younger than Gunko. There's a reason they're all afraid of him. It wouldn't matter if you're a new young knight or an old elder.
He won't get blow back if he does it himself.
Well, they can't really go against Imu at this point
feels like Imu could just drain the life force from anyone who they have placed a covenant on
Ehhhh
It's like having a rubber band snap in your face. If you're expecting it, you don't feel it as much, but it hurts a lot if it's not expected.
That seems like a bad analogy
Imu won't let go gunko here
By losing elbaf here yes
Also possible. Like I think Imu could kill Garling just as much as Saturn. Even though he's way younger
A fatter L
Sommers dies
yeah definitely
:p
I would be happy
Really? You could use a spring I guess. I'm trying to think of something that you can make a connection with that can cause blowback if broken
I also think things are going too well right now. I expect trouble
Gunko is gonna be free
Right now we don't even need Loki or Luffy
Yeah, zoro getting dormi
i wish he used the shilleglegh in battle
Nah, though I could see it happening to Loki. He becomes liike his mentor
homeland theory is kinda lame but i dont think theres a single instance otherwise so far
What
Naw, zoro set himself up
It is lame
We also need to know imu and gunko's relation
that's a big deal in itself
She'll tell brook
yeah but why not grab whitebeard or big mom or roger on god valley? It seems like a good move
How do they determine the poeks
Cause rocks was the strongest one
Vibes
but imu also got like random civs
No need to grab weaker ones
Really???
I thought they were number matching...
To torture rocks
I think it's too early despite all the theories. I also don't think Brook has the heart to right now. He's too angry
Well sometimes its based around niche details of characters
Other times its literally just a simple sort of thing
if the entire gunko plot gets covered here elbaf will definitely go longer than 30 more chapters
Here's the roster so far
He'll change his rage to Imu soon
Which is good for me so I don't have a problem with that
I would prefer to not have another large flashback sequence for now
Why? He has no need of them. His main goal was to wipe out the Davy Clan, not DR a bunch of people.
Post elbaf flashback
blackbeard escapes, he objectively did not marshall enough power to achieve that goal
Dude i totally thought it was like
Birthdays and the pokemons of the day
Pokemons dont have days persay besides like, 001
Imu has bad habit of doing that
Its just vibes
Why? It's like if Loki were to tell Hajrudin that he wasn't guilty without anyone sticking up for him. Hajrudin wouldn't believe him. Especialy after all these years. If anything Brook could think she deserved what she got. Especially since she had a connection to the holy land already.
Yes but i thought it was like idk pokemon 612 is December 6th idk
around 5-8 chapters wld cover the fb but the entire plot for this shld make it more than 10
It'll make sense don't worry
We are at 1k+
Imu vs Brook eos
Too many days...
shillelagh
I didnt know this had a name
a synonym is club
type shit
When is the sometimes he means dragon?
shillelagh would actually be a dope name for a club

Perona laughs at his name
Do you still need me
Do it
Do it
https://youtu.be/UWmZoO6Nvks?si=ioVr0ewDlKluTUOT nah this Usopp disrespect needs to end💀
Is Usopp REALLY useless every arc… or is the “fraud” agenda narrative overblown???
In this video, we break down Usopp’s usefulness in EVERY One Piece arc, from Syrup Village all the way to Egghead, ranking each arc on a tier list to answer one simple question: Is Usopp USELESS????
This is a powerscaling + agenda + character analysis vi...
SAF


Does S mean most useless? Or does F mean most useless?
Sociedade anônima de futebol
National Football league?
Imagine they go to the logs and ban everyone that ever talked in another language
Anonymous Football Society
What meeks said
who's this meeks guy
ryu ryu no mi model kirin
Lmao
half the server is gone
True peace
Half?? I think 90%
you've said "coup de vent" in the past
In theory if you ever said "haki" you are out
you sent a list of ancient zoans
asking why none of them were a dragon (mythical zoan) 😭
btw the right answer is Killingham's ryu ryu no mi model kirin
My statement stands. I've crushed hopes and dreams and theories here
ah yes the ancient zoan of a creature that didn't exist
Do you guys think oda will make all the clouds on Loki's logia be white
i think that Loki will be a pink wolf
Wym its his whole power
maybe a wolf with wings or something
He can use any color cloud
I forgot cloud logia
He could be that (as a cloud)
My bad
sorry Marin you have to let go
Dw cloud logia will never forget you
Maybe Loki was the real cheese logia all along
not until oda does his little df introduction box for Loki
and even then i'm sure it will be a gomu -> nika situation
I think F is most useless
im hoping at the end of the series oda gives us all the awakened versions of all existing devilfruits.. What would be the awakened version of the chop chop fruit
#other-series is the awakened version of that
thats why i said i hope... its probably not gonna happen
Just let the tired man rest at the end lpl
That's like a 150+ abilities he has to come up with
That's really a big ass wish
I wish for world peace
perhaps he will in some sort of Final Edition version of the devil fruit encyclopedia after the series ends, with info abt fruits we never knew about, and previous users of known fruits, etc
i mean cant hate a man for wishing lol
yes !! gimme
Yes, and now we have a Ryu Ryu that's a Dragon and not a Dinosaur 
Oh, this might be funny
If I had one wish I think I'd make my favorite type of chips more popular, I can never find them anywhere
true.
If you ever face someone tryin to bash your head in for saying "I hope", "I wish" etc, say "Okay Bellamy" and hit them with this
frogstare
Now this is the future, we've made it
yeah i felt for a sec i was back in jaya arc, bunch of has beens pirates telling me to stop dreaming
its so beautiful 
Stop it lemon
nah I'm good thanks
Get some help
Stop what?

the steal 
i hate ai
now I started imagining the newsreporter dude quoting the "you give a man a fish...", but instead it's blackbeard's motivational speech
You fool 
You got got
I placed that watermark 

as much as we can hate on ai, its here to stay
Smfh
Listen if people could create their own pigeon manticore gifs we wouldn't need ai
damn I was tricked like a bum 
not happening, there are big investments happening in the tech world right now
Who tf needs a pigeon manticore gifs
Me

here we go again 
but please only trick me once per day, thank you
and praise Garp once per day 
would luffy support AI?
i feel the need to mention that i hate ai, whenever ai is brought up sorry
What's goofy even making
He'd fall asleep 2 seconds into the explanation
monkey d. goofy
the same talking points about AI over and over and over
yeah he would
I think I finished my thesis 
It's like an assembly line but the outputs aren't even the same and I can't tell what they are
vegapunk made the internet, its possible that the ancient kingdom had some sort of AI
He wanted to make the internet, but he never quite got there. It was only his dream
as much as we can hate on loki he's here to stay
vegapunk creates the internet, and everyone just makes silly memes, the world ends
no one is hating on Loki, lol
i will pop the bubble. leave it to me.
yes he was close, but didnt quite get there
No one would even be able to access it considering how behind the rest of the world is
What's a word for Luke cold. That's how I feel about loki. He's not horrible but I don't love him
i kinda wanted to do an youtube series going over every single devil fruit and how a potential awakening would work
but i'd need to draw stuff and i suck at that
i honestly think loki is one of the best characters we have seen in post timeskip
do it
I'm pretty sure Tekking has beaten you to it
you go emood! 🥳
i mean, definitely
Elbaph has delivered some fantastic characters
i dont think he does potential awakenings
Based on what? He's got a fairly basic revenge motivation. His design is boring. He's not really unexpected in any way
I think he probably goes over them, but you can always add your take.
Loki is very good but definitely somewhat overrated
All the most interesting parts of lokis story are really parts about harald story
Sócrates may be skewing your view of how people rate him
I don’t see high praise for him often
A little
I praise myself a lot
Socrates definitely dulled people's opinion of him
But he does have quite a few other dedicated fans
😭
yes considering we only had vegapunk last arc, i never reallly cared for the scabbards in wano. The old roshi dude was okay... dressrosa had doffy... like reallly not that many cool characters post timeskip
He's probably like the 3rd best character in the arc
i like Loki a lot
What are the other 2
-100 Lemon points
welcome to the shitlist 
i think there's a lot of cool characters in post timeskip, lol
but i guess it depends on what you're looking for
TOP 3 elbaf
iscat
zoro
franky
but for sure i held myself back from praising him too much lol
Gunko and Harald
I agree
few realize that
Gaban is cool too
Ida was amazing
3 Gunkos in chat
blessed day
But idk if Loki is 3rd tho lol
Tf did I do to you
Yeah tbh idk either, 3rd might be too high
I'm going to squeeze you like a lemon
God I hate glasses but my eyes are too bad for lasik
Soon we will take over the server
i think they'd like that
I really like that Gunko Wily
-100 Lemon Points
lack of creativity 
You only have yourself to blame
Who names their kid Lemon fresh and not expect lemon jokes
i'm going to make swiss lemonade out of you
is that one good??
Oh no dont get me wrong
i expect them
I want them
but not just the same joke over and over
different jokes about the same subject is welcomed
I do like Shamrock too but the volume 113 marketing has already soured him a little bit for me as silly as that sounds
You would be cooler if you were like
is Jimmy Lime your archenemies?
Lime
I like him because he had a horrible upbringing but he didnt end up as a horrible villain... he still had morals and motivations(largely inspired by rocks) he cares about elbaph but doesnt show it.. he cares about his father but doesnt mind being hated for his death.. taking the blame...
Like bro, he's literally not in the volume, not for one panel
its so fucking funny
people ask me if they have mail so much
his design is great fym
Role-playing as a lemon isn't allowed
might be the funniest image on this server
Be a lime
Who?
one of the best post ts designs 😭
BUDDY
I feel like he’s at least better than shamrock
Jesus Burgress? Yesh.
needs to hit legs
-500 Lemon Points
Hathor alt 
His arms are all that matter
Well... Let's just say Shamrock doesn't make me feel angry at the sight of him
This is genuinely an insult
He's just an edgelord hype beast that could be in any other series. He doesn't have any of the weird uniqueness of one piece. The only thing that saves him a little bit is ragnir being a squirrel
youre right im sorry
that was too far
The sight of shamrocks face also evokes such feelings for me, but nonetheless I accept him
lol
Hathor would weep if he saw your message
I wish his design were closer to the shilouette in the Lola flashback
given his past i disagree with that statement, he has a reason for acting the way he does
Oh Qbz you’re talking about Loki
His design wouldn't be as good if he didn't have the pink/purple/who the fuck knows what the real color is hair
Not everyone has to be some weird goofy goober lookin ahh character
I'm just talking about visual design here
design wise
Thought you were talking about rocks
You forgot the part where hed try to save his ego first with a corny comeback then block me 
I like loki’s design except the color of his hair
Many cases...
Sure but that makes their design worse in my book. The unique goofiness is a strength of one piece
i think Oda nailed Loki's color scheme
Oda dropped the pen with Loki and Gunko colors 
i like Loki's colors
I think I like it BECAUSE of the hair color
recently Oda has been delivering on the color schemes if you ask me
too many indeed 😔
+1000 Lemon Points
common enemy 
at least on Elbaph
okay sure i can get behind that, not everyone is gonna like it
okay whos everryones favorite character from jaya
i also liked the gorosei colors though
if you say roshio you get banned
At first I wanted him to be blonde but that would have been boring
Montblanc
rosh-uhh let me think
How?
@hot cairn
the hardest thing about picking a favorite jaya character is that they're all top 50 characters in series so its fierce competition
im just happy that we can get some cool and interesting characters post timeskip because we have been lacking in that department for sure.. the only one i can think of was doffy
remember when oda made compact arcs with more memorable characters
And the entire marketing was focused around him
i remember
Lemony squish
WHAT ARE YOU SQUINTING AT
i wonder when Eneru will return
no dont pivot this wholesome quaint discussion into a pre timeskip circlejerk 
Nah you’re bugging
his design is awesome
my fault 🙏
its fine, it happens 🙏
fisher tiger was cool but he was just a side character and we really didnt go too deep with him
Good morning
I just think a jacked warrior is a boring archetype
How u doing?
how do you feel about Kaido, Mihawk, Shanks, Katakuri cause they all kinda have serious/edgy designs
I like that he uses a hammer, that's not very common in one piece
Kaido is saved by his drunkenness and katakuri is saved by his love for doughnuts. Mihawk a bit too edgy for me but I like his ship. Shanks I'm not sure I'd have to think about it
how can that alone sour you on a character
You mean
Like I said, it's silly
saying that while being currently on an arc with many cool, memorable characters lol
I think we need these edgy designs to appreciate the goofy ones more
i think Oda just wanted to get the color schemes for them done and out, since otherwise people would whine that he didn't show them for a long time
That could be true
we know shamrock is a shitbaby, but that isn't always a bad thing
Progress on it so far
(Made most of it today lol)
QRT: DorozDACL
Gonna do a little animation
First dumb sketch
but then again most characters in one piece are not too deep. Oda made so many characters so its hard to get that depth
Oh yeah I think the color schemes are fine, but the volume trailer we got with a VA announcement was crazy, he literally isn't in the volume
OMG THATS ADORABLE 🥹
Bonney shouldve gotten a lil drop of sake to officially become Luffys lil sis 
the VA announcement was something else, yeah
it was clearly made to build hype for Elbaph as a whole though, but Shamrock certainly recieved the spotlight
i think that Shamrock recieved said spotlight as he is the one who basically got all of the terror on Elbaph started, with his order to make it into a game
gunko is gonna be freed at the end of the arc and we are gonna get a big lore drop
we cant be going too soon to a flashback.. we just did a 6month flashback
Thankfully Robin adopted her
a flashback in the near future would be devastating for elbaf
i agree
True, plus she got aunt Lillith 
we have to continue the story
i don't think flashbacks are a detriment, it just depends where it's placed
More flashbacks are always good
Last chapter was trash (imo)
Elbaph needs something else
not possible
yeah so another one right after there was just a fairly long one is a bad spot to place it imo
Wdym not possible
Every arc has multiple of them
she has that contract with imu
Sometimes longer, sometimes shorter
i think so, because why introduce that brook/gunko storyline if nothing happens after
we've been in the present for like 30 seconds so far. Please lets just continue the present a little bit
this arc is gonna be 80+ chapters
its okay to do a flashback once we are leaving elbaf im cool with that, but lets just finish the arc first
There are possibilities but let's see how it turns out
boo this man
Yeah! And the SH were secondary in the chapter, again...
she can be left to rest its fnie
We still have Lola, and some of Carmel that can be explored
It all rotates back to Linlin
Last chapter was literally a BM upscale
i know a lot of people are afraid we might proceed with the story without knowing what brand of toothpaste big mom favored but its gonna fine. We dont have to explore every single nook and cranny of every single character
Fuck every single character tho
Im speaking BIG MOM
That is my language
Zoro got two pages of his plan, we had more panels on the giants than in the crew...
big mom has been a presence since fish man island. Its enough already. She had a big climactic ending that was very nice for her. time to move on
that's all that was needed for Zoro's plan
Thanks QBZ
The new generation is rising and defeating the old generation. And by defeating, I mean mildly inconveneincing. When luffy told katakuri hed defeat big mom, he meant hed free WCI from her influence for like... two weeks.
Dear Oda-san. I know you are very busy with work, but can you please tell me Linlin's favorite tooth paste, and has it evolved during her prime and post? Sincerely... your biggest fan.
"
Are you taking me wanting BM seriously?
I mean I don't blame you but I think what we got is fine
yes tons of people seriously want big mom and kaido
the newer generation will do something
Kaido and Big Mom should stay gone, i agree
Well yeah because Oda literally sent them off.
Even with Zoro's plan being stupid it needed more pages/panels. You can barely see the vision, messy pages
Its hard to really argue with the send off considering how fundamentally tied to newgen it is.
Same applies to Garp
Who will either die or be out of commission fairly soon.
yeah it's clear that Oda wants to phase out the old generation
the whole plan was being over the giants
i dont think BB will execute garp. Or if he does, itll be a scheme. He doesnt actually care about executing garp for the sake of it
not much more to it
Hes not going to kill him but if he doesn't serve a purpose he might as well.
oda could show him fighting more i guess but he needs his pages
BB is not a principles guy hes an outcome guy
did you skip all the Brook parts or what
i think he'll do it if the deal with the World Government doesn't go in his favor
He didn't really care about Boa unfreezing his men and decided to just snap her neck anyways had Rayleigh not arrived.
This.
If he has no use for Garp, they'll be no reason to keep him alive.
Other than for another motive.
this ch was 3 parts right
zoro giants
brook gunkimu (shurri?)
giants sommer
thats like 2/3
SHs
I think if he sets it up, itll be some kind of trap or scheme. It wont just be for the purpose of making a point. Hes not a make a point type guy in my estimation
His main purpose is for the bargain
He wants to, in my assumption, pincher deal with the WG.
well yeah but killing our hostage doesnt get you any closer to your bargain outcome
Except arguably Garp is a better dangling fish than Koby is.
i read that as plants versus zombies garden warfare
Except if the WG doesn't bite.
it just removes all your leverage and enrages your negotiating partners
Which they will by virtue of his plan B.
even then, how does that move the needle towards his desired outcomes?
Which is selling out rev info
It is very clear that Teach knows the WG isn't going to simply instantly bend over to his bargain
But he can make it a 2 for 1.
i can definitely see BB attacking the revos
as a part of the deal
it would be tragic for garp, him being a hostage endagering his son
it would contrast bb and rocks by having bb willing to work with the wg, even agaisnt those most likely to topple it
But I think Teech would be the guy to kill off Garp, but that isn't in the cards yet.
Especially when Garp is very hard to refuse
it would payoff the grudges weve seen on baltigo and dressrosa
That would instantly bring the morale down lower than the VP message already did assuming they turn it down.
i would love some kind of trap
where it looks like its gonna be garp marineford
all the marines go to save garp
bb isnt even there, hes in the flower room
something about both garp and dragon makes me feel like neither of them respond greatly to threats
This is very smart.
I can see it.
As soon as imu gains the upperhand on luffy, he’s gonna wake up
All his plans are shit tho
So it's too smart
they both have strong personalities and wont comply
you could even have devon pretend to be BB to sell the ruse '
Kuzan is his plan man too.
So theres less of a loss cause now
kuzan is a confused man
Teech's greatest weapon rn is knowledge
i still don't think that Kuzan wants Garp to die
And that includes what Kuzan offers.
I think this ship has sailed and hes coming to terms with it.
i still see him as a wildcard
That is what I took personally from the interaction aftermath
I think its a lot more interesting if he's dead set with his ideals and will run with it rather than being yet ANOTHER character that flips
he doesnt, he cried when garp was captured, no idea why he feels he needs to answer to bb's every move... bb even said that each of the members had their own agenda... similar to the rocks crew... their crew could break up at any time
It makes his entire arc of doing what he thinks is right complete.
Even at the expense several stuff at hand.
the most interesting path that Kuzan can take, is that he is using Blackbeard to get to Imu, so he himself can be a part of finishing the tyranny
She said it’s a dragon sometimes
One time is not sometimes
The oodles of other times it’s a dinosaur says this is a mythical version of a dinosaur
i don't think that Kuzan values Blackbeard more than just using him as a direct path for his own cause
He doesnt care about Teech.
yes
Kuzan knows that Blackbeard is a heinous man in the end of the day
But he sees him as the only way forward
Kuzan knows about imu
Even if it results in millions of deaths.
Dragon will prove them all wrong
He is in a way, becoming almost like Sakazuki in a way imo.
both bb and rocks crews are not a conventional pirate crews... every member is just for themselves
Or at least similar philosophically
dragon is currently accomplishing stuff
his efforts are putting more pressure on mariejoa than ever before
soemnoe just linked the lafitte panel talking about it
lol yes i dont remember exactly who sent every message
i honestly think he has no idea what he is doing
Your brain is huge
Remember marx
So I don't believe you
Forever
rest in whatever the opposite of peace is. strife? Disappointment?
Dragon can. Blackbeard is just moving faster
i think this is like 0.00001%
Pirates are the most free you can be
kick the cds out and then what
Kuzan deserves zero respect imo
Do you accept hugs as a form of currency?
Not without Acoc
idk man thats for dragon and oda
but he has a plan
Oh no
No acoc = slavery
i do not i would definitely prefer strangers not hug me
other way around
This is a friend buddy server
We are all friends here aren't we
Then how about when Oda classified the giraffe fruit as a an "ox ox fruit"? Giraffes arent closely related to cattle, but he was willing to bridge that divide for the sake of easier categorization of animals with similar outward body plans. Same applies for classifying dinosaurs as "dragons", and vice versa. Its just grouping similar looking things together, not necessarily related species
something about 'friend buddy server' made me laugh
im not sure if you guys follow politics or history but leaving a power vacuum can have consequences
Kaido directly says all top tiers have acoc
If you don’t have acoc you’re not top tier
Oda told me in a dream
Kuzan is very nuanced. I think I respect him more out of all the admirals but hes no better than them.
In a twisted way.
Luffy held back gear coc vs kizaru
The path hes choosing is very blood no doubt about it.
Gear WHAT
i mean we all know that
will oda explore that is the question
As we know base luffy is yonko lvl
I just think it's crazy that he chose to follow the most evil guy on the planet instead of Dragon
What I want to know is, why Teach specifically?
well he has to otherwise dragon and his crew just look like power grabbers
When luffy is in base he’s going all out
There's probably more that goes into it.
If he goes into any gear it makes him WEAKER
I think he wants the fastest way to burn the system down even if it ends up taking lives either way.
it was just the luck of running into bb first imo
I think kuzan is alright he just wants to be free from all the bs
except gear coc
Blackbeard is gunning for imu
It was this and Teach appealing to his emotions during such a vulnerable state.
Dragon is taking his time
Whatever his end goal is it's probably something noble and he thinks the ends justify the means, but idk what it could possibly be that he can't do allying with Dragon
Mind you he was drunk at the bar probably suffering a crisis
Cocman
he could join another group tho
dragon has been taking his time
i dont buy any like kuzan BB spy theories like that he intentionally embedded himself. That doesnt mean i think kuzan is 100% on bb's team I do think he has counter-bb goals to some extent, but I do think it was just luck they ran into each other yeah
kuzan did walk up to evil corp and hug the president
“Erm no Kuzan is actually a secret agent trust me bro”
“Why yes I do like fairy tail, why’d you ask?”
or Bb would call it fate, rahter than luck
!fairytail
💩
he joined the best one considering their philosophical matches
I think kuzan is with the revs fr but they not doing shit frfr rn
To be fair being a pirate gives Kuzan more freedom than being a revolutionary so I get why
I guess the big question is. Would the one piece world be better off without a overarching government
No
i dont think he made the decision to like go out and seek a faction. I think he was just drinking his sorrows away and got convinced by BB's pitch
The revs are like, tippy toeing to imu
!kaideux
Government is a good thing
sacrebleu
Bad governments are bad
I don’t think Kuzan is a secret agent
Me neither
there are more commands but the list hast been updates since 2022
we had a new one the other day but i forgot
Yeah all of this was coincidental plus Blackbeard was the one who asked Kuzan to join, no way he is secret agent at all, only that he has his own agenda that being a pirate allowed him to act freely.
Bruh
he's neither a secret agent nor a true believer. He can be secretly against BB's end goal without it having been his intentional goal to seek him out
Update these
Aye man if kuzan is genuinely down with the beard im fine with that tio
!when
I’d agree if the actual dragon wasn’t under another classification
The way I see it. Kuzan is a lost soul. His direction in life feels very aimless and he feels like the system is actively fucking with him and ruining his preception of what hes fighting for to begin with. And I think Blackbeard appealed to his emotions at his worst extremely well in a manipulative way. However I think Kuzan agreed with the pirate philosophy and is using that to make his goal a reality.
damn it
Do you think Kuzan likes BB coc
!waiting
atmods give us an updated command list
At the end of the day I'm just happy he's a future Koby victim
i think its good to have a navy, but we can also say that each island is a country and they are fully capable of defending themselves
That’s pretty much exactly what happened
@ashen perch can you do this
they arent though, we see plenty of examples of that.
Could you see Kuzan being able to take Acoc from shanks
Rate the chapter out of 10
Kuzan most likely has had coc inside of him
Yes but he’d be at 30% health atp
if i was helper i'd have this place under control (other series mention = ban slandering something i dont like = ban being mean to me = ban luffy pfp = ban) and i'd make command list
yeah but thats a one off cus its based on the myth. The in-universe person that named it just felt very koi 
vote mailbox
So you admit he can take a coc
in the current world, yes because the world is flooded with pirates looking for the one piece.. but under normal circumstances it would be fine
It would just hurt a lot
Bro what
when pirates like crocodile or doffy are given free reign to do whatever without the navy's interference, they take over countries
dude chill the mods are going to get your ass
Calm lil 9
No context ts is insane 😭
buggy needs some screentime, his crazy ass bouta luck up again😂
Coc king is better 😭
Oda forgot about Cross Guild
Cock ing
Prove it
Exactly like Kuzan has his own agenda but he also felt lost ever since Ohara incident happened and the whole thing with Akainu being fleet admiral was the final straw for him so he was his own for years until Blackbeard offered him to join the crew.
We got some more lore
Usopps group is free
Zoro has high IQ
Sanji pulled up
The giants arent slacking
And sommers is still a bum
next ch the cross guild cut starts
they are both under an agenda inspired by the pirate age. These two characters would just be normal criminals otherwise
if Elbaph time dilation theory proves correct we could get a whole Zou-length arc about what theyve been doing 
Crossguild going to wano
You mean Wrooks group?
@sweet anvil gunners looking top shelf
Who’s Usopp?
So they can get pluton and KOZUKI MORIAAAA
Clash of clans but in one peak
Pluton belongs to Akainu I’m afraid
Edited I’ve never heard of this character before
Too high
Indeed peak chapter
but as criminals they could take over countries too. Wano too. We see multiple examples of things going really bad for people and towns/countries being unable to defend themselves if the navy doesnt do it
His family is from Wano, trust
Is that Saul on the ground? 😭
to do what😂
he ain’t leaving his desk
To fight luffy
More set up for Usopp to do something during Elbaf
I think lodestar is gonna be very lore based at first, probably a lil scuffle with the MMBF (if he’s there) then akainu koby and the marines pull up
Or akainu pulls up on elbaf but i dont see imu leaving until the end
that would be kinda dumb
would leave navy hq wide open
to be crushed by cross guild
cross guild ambush, ive been on the books on this for months
if they recruit more members ^
I mean shi buggy does know where it is
no akainu no kizaru
We need that doffy recruit
I don’t think Lodestar would have involvement with marines but I could be wrong
its just at the end of the log pose, and he also would have gone there personally under roger
Marineford becomes CrossGuildFord
Go into impel down stomp on magellan and get doffy
weevil seems like a given too
thats why i talked about agenda. Why would theese two characters care so much about taking over countries and cause chaos. Its the power dynamics that exist in the current world. If there was no piracy or big reward at the end of the rainbow they might not be so inspired
Sorry brewing coffee right now to but to further drive this home, I think Teach unintentionally gave him a lightbulb in his head. Kuzan using that freedom he's been given away from the constraints of Marine work to blaze up a path to eliminate the system that not only wronged him but a lot of people. Its definitely not the best way to do it, but I think its the Kuzan way and I think he feels that suffering has to happen either way for it to happen. Even at the expense of fueling Blackbeard's psychotic fantasy
Greenbull took his fat off
And potentially marco
Kuzan made peace with this path the moment he trapped Garp in
Marco owes stussy
doffy is just living like a king, his motivations arent hard to understand. Its not clear theyre at all related to roger. And even if it is the case that the great pirate era is the only thing that generates a need for smoething like the navy, that means the world would be vulnerable to any kind of event like that which could happen at any time
Nami is there who joined the earliest
Jinbei is there who is the 4th strongest
Usopps group still
WUSOPP
Vice captain usopp
alright i gotta stop procrastinatnig the dreaded weekend work by yapping, bye
Good luck!
Good luck
I hear you but again, all these actions are inspired by the era. Why does doffy care so much about ruling a country?? Because he was at the top of the foodchain and got demoded to the bottomfeeders(humans) Crocodile wants a strong military... why? because he wants to shield himself from the navy and the army and live like a kingpin... These scenarios would not exist wihtout the pirate era or the hunt for the one piece
ngl i just said that for the pun, but I'll try regardless. 
I don't have actual evidence, but maybe I can convince you with some rationale.
Since it is a mythical zoan, it is by definition based on a myth, and made up by humans. Since it is the literal Azure Dragon, I think its safe to say the myth in question is the koi waterfall myth, which would mean the author of the encyclopedia essentially had the actual lineage of that dragon in myth form and could use that as a source for the classification
"the myth said its a fish, this was spawned from the myth, so i guess its a fish, despite my better judgement"
Greatest Usopp achievement this arc.
Now he owes Gunko two things
i didn’t even notice that gunko was wearing her godblade uniform in the small flashback where she was crying until someone pointed it out
what is she
uhh
Adoption
the neck is different
the one shoulder we see seems to be a bit different too
Just realized Brook also became not just a pirate, but a former pirate captain too after Yorki fell sick, right?

Yurr
yep
woah
game is still trash
perhaps her kingdom was previously ruled by the Manmayers, like how Dressrosa was ruled by the DonQuixote
That would at least explain why they were willing to adopt her. I imagine the royal family of a world noble's nation is sort of seen more as their pets than just insects
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A REINHART DPS WITH A SWORD NOW
4 current strawhat pirates have captain experience
Luffy
Jinbe
Brook
Usopp( i am counting this)
who even is that
loba?
anyways one piece
dk
not loba whats her name
Yea that shit so trash
That is definitely plausible
the new girl
Perhaps she was forced into adoption
Vendetta
vendetta yeah
but she got pinned off the map
Perhaps she isnt a Maynanner and they took her island by force
I hate what they did to the lore,they neutered doomfist
She might be a prodigy as well if they’re willing to get her on their side
And thrusted into that lineage
All viable options definitely
ow2 sucks but something that never changes is spamming this after shattering the whole team:
HONOR
JUSTICE
REINHARDT REINHARDT REINHARDT
anyways one piece
who wins Zoro or Sanji?
We don't know a single thing about this other Manmeyer girl but we gotta kill her
The myth is about a carp turning into a golden dragon, not an azure dragon
For all we know, all dragons will be a fish model because of that myth
It could also have been that Kaido’s is a draconic fish and Killingham is a draconic giraffe
Dragon's fruit will be a Mythical Zoan.
But killingham isn’t an ox ox model
Fujin Model.
Draconic dinosaur maybe
Is that the nigga from monsters vs aliens
Maybe the other Manmeyer is the one who first noticed Shuri in the first place and told Imu about her
Jinbe Brook and Usopp - Captain trio
I feel like Franky belongs in that group too
Franky family right?
Yeah


