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specially with incineroar
like pokemon?
Luffy climbs to the surface world
MEANWHILE
Islands are very isolated and mind their own business most times
damn i got fucking inb4d š
of course but if a giant is running around rampaging across distant seas, it would be a pretty big news spill to cover
storm drain lumineon will change everything
Franky also hated pirates , donāt think he would have even wanted to look at bounties
But which islands was he fuckinā up
If franky hates pirates so much why did he marry one
could've still heard about Loki being at play
If someone has a billion plus bounty, Iām sure most people in the grand line are aware of them
should I get Mega Lucario or Mega Lucario Z guys
There aināt shit around Elbaph but little shitters it seems like from the Harald flashback portion
Nah thatās not his character in the past if you look how he reacted to oden
Probably not in the bum fuck other seas tho
i'm not saying that he would care, i'm just saying that i think he should've at least heard of it
tera ground lumineon
He wouldnāt have paid attention and would have forgot it if he heard passingly especially if loki never even visited water 7 , thatās his character especially if he was hating on pirates that much
Gay son vs thot daughter
edgy vs hatsune miku
I actually thought there would be spoilers this week but apparently I miscalculated dates 
thot son vs gay daughter
Shipping son vs agenda daughter
chapter is still next week I'm gonna pass out
what's some out there speculations?
Dory son or Brogy daughter
is it break week?
still break week
hype
break week ends tomorrow
oda had to prove he could draw more than just muskets and flintlocks
lol
i thought they'd use their trident

Imu did that for fun. Satanic imagery and stuff
That is a pretty cool scene ngl
it was all for aura and hype moments
I miss mailbox
temp = temperature
LMFAO IS THAT WARCURY NOSE
i really hope that they pull through and look like satan fully
same thing 
Killingham was made for missions like these
Killingham so goated
well, Killingham's fruit is that which allowed for almost total control of Elbaph from such a short notice
Iām excited to see the new God Knights
im learning
I'm not arguing sab
Sommers certainly fits too, just because his crude personality though
When will the 3rd sword emerge
His fruit as well
everytime oda chickens out on using the current giant sword a new one appears on the next island eustass visits
gunko and killingham are doing the heavy lifting
yeah that too, though Gunkos fruit would've probably done most of the work combined with Killinghams. Sommers just had to add the sadistic side to it, lol
Yeah. The teachers from walrus academy and the parents canāt save their kids cuz of the Thorn Love Barrier
is that so
they shouldāve just left sommers on his couch and summoned another GKš
even if it didn't have the thorn barrier, i think that it would be hard to remove them from the path which Gunko had made
the rest will be shown by end of elbaph i think
as that's a path which can't be broken, by the looks of it
would be even more interesting if they came to the island
Killingham put the children to sleep and Gunko is leading them towards the government ships to Mariejois
WHICH HOLEY KNIGHT WOULD LIKE COUNTRY MUSIC
new god knights
And Sommers thorns is gate keeping them from their teachers and families
holey knight
Is Sommers too obvious of a pick?
Saint Hill Billy
i think Maffey enjoys country music
She died 8 years ago
Do we need a penguin zoan 
maffey return will break the internet
Never happening
Maffey return will break me
She's a short old lady now
YES
hiding garlic's gargantuan hairpiece š
IMO
didn't people slander him for that, lol
for not killing a Holy Knight
I mean itās pretty clear he wasnāt all that back then
Dragon stinks
Cope
i think so too, but people expected more i guess

GV Dragon was an actual cannon fodder 
Oda did him dirty
Dragon got so strong he got his ugly hairline
Weaker than east blue luffy
east blue Luffy was a beast
Compared to a jobber, yes
Dragon was one of the biggest highlights of God Valley to me
i love the spotlight he recieved
good parallel to sabaody luffy
he wasnāt that strong but his character was very good in GV
should've done more. his mentality stuff was nice
Shortly afterwards we saw him heading straight towards the mountains
The best thing dragon did was drop shanks on his head
i mean Oda
wonder if we're gonna see Dragon's story after Garp freed him

But why
i loved how clearly it shaped his conviction
brain damage is the reason shanks didn't go full CD
Bcs penguin is cool

my favorite panel in one piece
what are penguins but a miserable pile of penguins
yup and shat on Garps xd
pin tihs
Only good thing dragon ever did, maybe thats why shanks didnt wanna be a HK
all this Dragon hate wont age well
he'll be strong asf
pin this
I hold to my conviction
He'll have 1 fight and lose
pin this
ok
this one is not it Pasta, you'll be cooked
Pasta was meant to be cooked
dragon will be strong but not as strong as people think he will be
you need to be cooked in order to serve
How strong do people think he is
It will be my fate then. Pull an Oden
have seen some people putting him top 2 3 in the series off purely headcanon
Based
Sak says top 1 verse
I think he is gonna be top 5 but heās not the strongest character that isnāt imu
Top 1 is too much yeah
somewhere between Rocks and Akainu
i mean i wouldn't be surprised if he is at least top 3
I'm good with him being top5
Dragon is gonna fight imu then lose and die
Well hes probably stronger than Akainu
And that'll be all he do
Imu is a fraud
Him and his horcruxes
Dragon is an Imu victim which says absolutely nothing about his strength, however I do think heāll be able to hang with the Admirals
dragon at the very least in my opinion will be stronger then prime garp
but i donāt think this is a crazy assumption
KABLOW
Yonko Level
[character] is an imu victim

Dragon being an imu victim whe he was planning for this shit all his fucking life would be downright bad writing
Iāll say it
Dragon is the preeminent Imu victim
wsgood twin whats todayās topic
Dragon powerscaling
Did Dragon know about Imu specifically? he seemed shocked when Sabo told him

@grand flower i never explained the Shanks shit huh
oh boooooo
Yeah
What a waste
he'll be Yonko level
I mean, perhaps. Expand on that a little bit for me cause I honestly havenāt considered stuff that far ahead yet
it actually is isn't it 
He knows about holy knights, probably had ideas without any evidence
You want Dragon to beat Imu, Earl? Or just not fight him at all?
they will have to kill all of his minions before taking out Imu
Dragon will not fight Imu
What if dragon is 4 yonkos
Imu will die to BB
well what do you think will happen? He beats Imu alone?
thats cool. thank you for sharing your favorite panel
Wanna see my favorite panel?
he probably had an idea but wasnāt sure, before god valley i was wondering how he knew of the holy knights too but after seeing that he saw them with his own eyes it was cleared up
O qu-...
No, he just doesnāt die lmfao
eijo
no
Why does that also have to be the other option
like harry potter style?
Yes
even akainu has a gut feeling that there is someone above the elders
ah, I didnt corelate him losing meaning he dies
a bit yes
yum
take down all the hks before taking down imu
sorry that was the funny answer. i do want to see your favorite panel :)
More evidence of imu being a fraud
this gif is banned
Iām too out of touch
My favorite panel. I bet you all though I was gonna be sarcastic. Gottem.
double banned gif
I forgot most One Piece fans just talk like this
I donāt think heās gonna lose either , he doesnāt have to win or lose , his army is playing an important background role
2026 Oda could never pull off the Skypeia shadow
thats f*cking l*ffy
Kid mention. He will return with enel
I dont even get how Imu beating Dragon makes Imu a "fraud"
Close. That's actually fcking lffy's sh*dow
backslash fail
Imu would do all that and not kill his enemies is classic incompetence, the exact reason heās about to lose the void century war
this software deserves to burn
chekmate
so he's beating Imu or what? what is the other option
Imu is a fraud hax merchant regencel 800 year old chud
now i rule planet "earth"

nah. not even buffy with a vanilla Luffy panel as favorite 
No neither beat imu or lose to imu , he dies to the better villain Blackbeard 
is this real
I donāt wanna talk about Orochi squared
I recorded it, so I hope so.
whos orochi
-bleach pfp
š thats an anime character not bleach
i don't like bleach
i like the gif
Typos fixed
I forgot how large this guy was
He can swallow a whole baby
thats saturns job
kurozumi was born to burn
This was a very thigh comment...

GET IT BECAUSE OF THE FAMOUS ARTWORK "SATURN DEVOURING HIS SON"
the alt allegations are piling up
Usopp with Ragnir will replace this panel soon. have faith
good one me
classic reference
TRUE. DON'T LOSE HOPE USOPPBROS.
But can earl post my furry lard lumps???
i was on the brink
lil fatties
Can confirm I donāt have 2 cats
lil chunkaroos
I used to have 5 cats
Iād honestly enjoy a subversion of expectations in regard to Dragon. I donāt think he needs to necessarily get defeated or taken out of the story. It would be really interesting to see what heād get up to in an epilogue
Very cute, but I need to slim them down a bit
that was not good
how would you classify the smell?
mans best friend and cute cats 
fatten them up for the winter, bear style
Cat guys winning š„
Litter box city
me as a kid trying to scoop out the litter box and not gag
dogs and cats are equal
NOPE
So soothing to be in here 
I clean my cats litter box once a day and itās never too bad, but some people be waiting like a week and thatās disgusting and honestly a bit inhumane
Anyways
One Piece amirite
Don't see no dog doing this
Is it bcs socrates was banned
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and a dog blowing up an elderly man gif
@dense haven how many cats do you own and don't lie to me
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we need the new OP chapter
dang i was about to mention that one
i had a walking stick
I need to reread the arc icl
though i think it escaped
funny, the only dog gif he has is of it dying via explosion. curious.
you donāt remember much about it?
Iāve been so distracted by other stuff that Iāve fallen out of the discourse and just canāt keep up in conversations rn
your evil creatures don't lie in wait in shadows and mist?
where's the mist?
well 6 months of content is just the flashback
Iām gonna be honest, dude. Iām pulling a Rokaya right now
Lokiās name syllables in reverse are the word for ice how neat
I havenāt even read the latest chapters
youāre only reading spoilers???
nahhh thatās awful
in the foggy dirty rained on old glass panes
but it is rei
or more accurately his name is an anagram for the word for ice
oh
trying at least
one of those brains cells are working
Hardworking are we
two because it's seeing the water
Mods get em

Rei I hv heard the mods let it slide if ppl join Hajrudins agenda
Hajrudin will get his dream. He's just as much Harald's son as Loki is. And he got to have Ida too š
Those are good genes all on their own
i believe in him
Donāt worry, Iām a #HajrudinTruther
I hope mihawk was the one who ordered that jewelry
"Put gemstones in my sword, I want it to be pretty!!"
final fantasy
Mihawk is kitted out with all the materia
Crazy art
Perfect balance just what an ideal king of all giants would be like

Just a reminder this is what we're coming back to now that the flashback is over
Fire
That is so beautiful. DRA-CULE! MI-HAWK!
I mean, Oda was nice to keep all the weaklings in one spot rather than have them roaming around doing random stuff
I love fanletter
I wonder if Shanks knew when he came to Marijois that he had a twin?
Pretty sure they got their shit together now
yeah, i wonder how much he knew
beforehand
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I wish we get an episode 2
They'd probably make one for the final war
jimbe got haki and is doing nothing anyway š why even learn it bro stick to steering the ship
Yeah
reddit does joke spoilers marked as real spoilers now. The hell
Even if they did, its not helping them. Gunko's arrows are not to be messed with
We will be getting a lot of fan stuff when op is about to end
I honestly wish they made a sports game with one piece. Like Nintendo does with the super Mario franchise
anything for some karma
A one piece soccer game wouldāve been awesome
People act like haki can get you out of anything. DFs do still work even if you have haki. Jinbe's not doing anything
And each soccer captain has their own theme song
GEAR 4 LUFFY GOALIE IS BROKEN !! - One Piece Soccer Dreams, new game!
Blackbeard would be broken goalie cuz he can use black vortex to block the shot!
It's about time they break free and do their stuff
plus he already passively covers half the goal with his size
Trueee
would this game release 2030?
i'd prefer a proper adventure game
I'm just slandering
they really can't do anything to gunko's rags though that's crazy
like Odyssey but more original
I once was on the reddit spoilers are real train. I was dumb and not ready. I will do better.
Robin and Jinbe are also currently captured
Poor jinbe
Hmmm. I know we talk a lot about one piece movie villains. But what about the one piece video game villains?
So far I think only that vampire dude Patrick Redfield has been mentioned
Loki is an ability NPC because his ass would slam the whole enemy side in one swing if he was a playable character
i like Adio
They're mom and dad, remember? They have to look after the others
I've never played a one piece game š
why did shamrock leaveš©
Me too
not even Juan Piss - Bonty Rash!
Lmaoo
hopefully we get to see what's going on in Marijoa right now
Because he's taking care of everything in the Holy Land. Basically him being there means whatever's happening there is doomed to fail
hello, this is day 4 of spreading the tsuru agenda
i wish bounty rush was like a little less money grubby or it was on PC
or it had less grind
is anyone still interested in tsuru or nah
any of those and i wouldn't ahve deleted it in a rage
just play Pirate Warriors 4 instead
yea ik lol i just want to see what he can do, but i think it will pan to the holy land later in the arc
Pirate warriors 4 looks fun
pirate warriors 4 genuinely has worse gameplay
no
it is, if you like the warriors genre
pirate warriors 4 just doesn't have a fun progression system. The ranked/ character improvement in bounty rush was very fun
I kinda of like how little he's getting. It means Oda's taking his time with him. We know less about him than Garling or Shanks
peak
yessir, donāt u wanna find out how they get out of this situation
no
Me when I lie
its monster trio piece now
Finally, but are they still tied up or did maybe Franky free them
i'm excited to see what's going to happen
Yeah ig the new chapter is we see how they escape from it
and obv loki and Luffy doing some stuff
i am almost certain that Loki will end up being domi reversed
I dont even think much time passed because Loki was only talking for 3 minutes
and Luffy will save him
I'm unsure about that
why are you a #1 kalifa fan if youāre pushing Tsuru
if any one does get flipped loki is pretty much the only option
I mean about if I want loki to be dr'd or not
none of the strawhats will be demonized im thinking
Kalifa has uhm very little agenda to spread
If there was I would spread it
tsuru is the same
Nah
tsuru is the natural counter to Imu
YES
Homeland theory 
Well theyre not enemies are they
Nobody mentions how her wash fruit can most likely counter domni reversi
homeland theory isnāt solid to me
i've never believed it either
that would make the ability too conditional
And theres speculation she trained akainu
#everystrawhatmatters
Which fits it
I mean its very overpowered otherwise this would be a good disadvantage
or else we wld see imu spamming dr
Does anything debunk the homeland theory?
Nopsies
so far? not really
because everyone that has got turned so far was in their original homeland
I like this
itās as lame and random as the power of love stuff
what is the homeland theory
#EVERYSTRAWHATMATTERS 
but do u consider Killingham dreams under this @digital spear
because they got domid too
Theres also the aspect that maybe this is why Roger was executed in his homeland, Loguetown
If he acted up Imu could stop him
Did they? What happened with them
they were changed
they kinda got demonfied
I remember this because Socrates always uploaded the image
They are nightmares from the giants who were born in Elbaf
Imu only being able to dr someone if they're on their homeland
from this, to this
hereās an example
Oh...
chepter when
!break
Elbaf is pretty much the straw hat arc so far so
Roux ate it
damn
Maybe because they were created in Elbaf, and they are the nightmares that Elbaf children would have (Nidhƶggr, Draugr, the mom etc.) so they are born in Elbaf
it's been a break for a while so i forgot when the break ends
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I don't know if her washing could take out a contract
no booster boxes
Yeah that broke my heart š
Feels more like a Loki/Harald arc to be honest
debatable but there is a ton of strawhat moments so far compared to Egghead
Elbaf is the Rocks and Loki arc
When I say the straw hat arcs I am including grand fleet in this and Loki is 100% joining the fleet
silly card games were never meant to be this serious..
which one of the upcoming chapters is the volume ending one?
elbaf will be brook's arc
Yeah thatās my point cause it seemed that it focuses more on the straw hats than usual in post time skip.
Elbaph is actually very much like most post-TS arc. They are very much more about the side characters than they are about the SHs
He will get his moment soon
Franky got his bit
wonder what the volume cover will be
Rocks Harald Loki
Luffy
I'd rather have random stuff than another cover story like the last one
you really didn't like 113?
i love this one so much
The yamato one was pretty tedious, but I don't care for yamato anyway
i think you misunderstood us, we were talking about the volume covers specifically
boichi jumpscare
oh you said cover story I'm sorry!
Yamato cover story was pretty boring it was just them going random places
Oh you mean the volume big cover things. The last one was nice
yeah
I'd kinda like to not see Wano for a while
could at least have had an interesting development on Yamato's cover story can't lie
like wow we saved page one and ulti and Tama beat the shit out of someone, let's go visit places for the rest of the month
sleep simulator
agreed, it felt like the Yamato coverstory didn't have much pay off
the Kozuki Moria thing was cool though
moria returns to wano for his training arc
vol 113 is not available in English yet
not a fan?
I was saying the random boichi magazine thing
I thought you were looking for vol 113 to buy it
Honestly I blame the scalpers
They ruined it for everyone
Ivankov crying
Sanji had ivachan
that would be cool but I think they're expensive and would take a long time to come to Brazil
i'm going to buy vol. 113 the second it comes out in english

Gaban wouldnt have taught Sanji Ifrit Janbe, Germa genes taught him that
Sanji fans think of iva like an evil scientist watching a hamster run from snakes for two years

Well it was the best training Sanji couldve gotten back then, Mihawk didnt teach Zoro CoC either
still baffles me that Zoro didn't know he had it
They forgot Sanji needed the patch
Well Im not surprised Mihawk didnt teach COC to him
Chapter when
next weekington
Nvm I was foolish
Law trained with rosinante but still is a top tier, ig he's just genius
It wasn't really Rosinante. It was the other Donquioxte Pirates
wasn't Diamante the one who taught Law how to use a sword
Ray didnt train Luffy Acoc either they just werent ready back then (the meta reason is that Oda didnt think of it yet but in universe they simply needed to grow alongside the new world journey and get some of those techniques themselves)
remember when Arsal said Sugar was Doflamingoās number 4 for some reason
i remember doffy also taught him leadership skills or smthing
I did see a panel where Ray says he taught Luffy all he could in two years
Doffy taught Law politics š gave him the full law school (haha get it)
looking at old saved images today
All Luffy could or all Ray could?
All Luffy could
Rayleigh did NOT teach Luffy that invisible armor thing
Yeah that makes sense Luffy wasnt ready yet

The 2 years were all for nailing down the pure haki basics
Yeah, they taught Law many of his skills at a young age. Wouldn't be surprised if he already knew haki earlier than most supernova
Luffy Graduated Haki I

Damn all I have is this convo with Shuron
Gladius taught Law the gun, Diamante the sword and Lao G just hand to hand combat
guys whats the worst post time skip arc in your opinion?
Its 10 years for normal people
FMI
no other answer thought so
Punk hazard
yeah probably Punk Hazard
punk hazard was pretty bad because kinemon was introduced
It's still good for me tho I like ph
Kinemon is the only upside for Punk Hazard...
Jk there wasnt much bad about Punk Hazard just they ran around in that bigass lab for a bit too much
itās def between Punk Hazard and FMI
fishman island is the one i least enjoyed
Yeah 50 chapters for ph was too much
I think Iāll go with FMI, thatās the one I dread to reread when Iām rereading
Ok everyone says the same so now take out those 2 arcs
okok
Whats the worst arc from Dressrosa to now
Reverie
guys whats the worst post time skip arc in your opinion? (Excluding FMI and PH)
oh this one is hard
mmm
zou
need a moment to think
^
Reverie is kinda hype tho
Reverie is one of the best for me cause we get to see crazy shit happening around the world
Oh don't get me wrong I love reverie
It's just I love others even more
I think mine is WCI, that will probably be a hot take in this server
Damn
FMI would've just been an okay arc if it wasn't for fuckface mustard hair blood nostrils
He also was the kind of teacher
whats yours YC?
WOMEN WOULD DESIRE
itās not a bad arc, Iām just not a fan of the climax that much
RA RA RASPUTIN
I remember bawling my eyes out almost every other chapter while reading wci
and BM isnt my favorite character
did WCI really have a climax
yeah
it ended on a postponed plan
Man I really wanna talk about how Oda may be pulling influence from the Norse Era God of War games for Elbaphās
that's already at the cooldown phase
Theres so many interesting potential references
it's the final part of the arc
But these spoiler rules how am I supposed do discuss this here
It might be Zou but its unfair to say its Zou because it was obviously pretty short and goated af
Reverie I dont even see as its own arc because its just a WCI to Wano intermission and the other part in Egghead
Can we talk OP in #western-series ?
there's spoilers?
oh for God Of War
Itās definitely plot relevant
Yeah to how that series unfolds
Post Time skip arc rankings:
- Wano
- Dressrosa
- Egghead
- Elbaph (so far)
- Zou
- Reverie
- WCI
- PH
- FMI
Respectable
Holy kino

if you reference another series with it yeah
I know Wano is controversial but the highs are just TOO high for me
I love that arc
and I absolutely adore Kaido
It's valid
whats your list Sharon and @digital spear @prisma yacht
oh shit I forgot to say reverie
Done
Post Time skip meeks rankings:
- Wano
- Egghead
- Dressrosa
- Elbaph (so far)
- WCI
- Zou
- PH
- Every single One Piece Movie
- Oda's breaks
- FMI
Egghead
WCI
Dressrosa
Elbaph (So far)
Wano
FMI
PH
Zou
Mines so far.
another Wano top 1
it's gotta be wano
lmao Odaās breaks
anything is better than FMI
Its a great arc.
It just very early in
So its definitely not as good as everything after it minus a few exception.
damn, FMI and PH over Zou?
Wano
Dressrosa
Wci
Egghead
Zou
Fmi
Reverie
Ph
Didn't rank elbaf bcs its not finished yet but I'm pretty sure it's gonna be within my top 3 post ts arcs if oda gives development to all or at least a few of the shs
if I ever rewatch one piece I'm realizing it's cheeks and rereading instead
FMI has amazing backstory, Jinbei's reintroduction into the beginning of NW and everyone got a chance to stretch their legs with Hody's crew.
WCI that low is insane, i respect it
the worst a character has ever been in OP
Its not really that good but it definitely stood out for me a lot more than Zou did.
marx that's what I'm saying it's otherwise an okay arc but fucking sanji
itās a great set up arc tbh
Yeah that too while being insanely short
nice list
thanks ^^
Really the only issue besides it sort of being very early is Sanji.
I think thats a universal consensus thing
Oh definitely, but I personally didn't like its setup as much.
yeah I know that might be controversial but the climax and BM arenāt my favorite things
Maybe on a re read I might be a feel different
Wano then Dressrosa then Egghead then WCI then FMI then PH
I donāt count reverie and ima wait for Elbaph to conclude. Also low-key dont count Zou and Reverie
im curious how the community in japan feels about sanji and him in fmi
wonder if its just a cultural difference between the western and japanese communities
Probably.
they probably found it hilarious
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fair enough
Anyone know the OST name in this scene?
oda slapped his knee and rubbed his belly wihle writing
I love it but can never remember
What?
I see I see, we almost have the same list
Wano might be my favorite arc for ever
i should reread FMI cause i remember it being ass, but it couldnt have been that bad
maybe its cause i watched the anime
it has some interesting stuff to it
itll probably age better on reread
the Japanese probably find Sanjiās gag entertaining and funny
Absolutely
FMI is so visually beautiful in manga
The nosebleed?
ye
Ah yeah the art is one of its better parts
plenty of dumb stuff in wano but its the best post timeskip arc so far
itās ass in the anime, in the manga itās a pretty good arc
Wano is a textbook example of judging a story on the basis of āhereās an alternative plot I thought of and itās bad because its not thatā
thereās just many better ones
If you analyze Wano through the lens of āwhat is the author trying to do, how well does his story convey that,ā Wano is fuckin solid
a lot of arcs tend to do that in OP
yeah this is my review basically lol
I love the Luffy and jimbei blood transfusing panel
Thatās why the criticisms are things like āhey, Oda didnāt pay off this throwaway line in Zou that the story gave me no reason to be attached to in the first placeā
i remember the days of when yasuei died, those chapters were fucking hype
people were hyped as shit
i recently reread egghead and it was better overall, but it does still have the same issues i had back when it was weekly (though i dont feel as strongly anymore)
at least it was a throwaway line
nowadays people criticize oda for things that they decided in their own headšš
there was a lot of fan expectations with that arc yeah, I think people donāt like it because they felt let down that Oda didnāt go certain routes
there was a lot of fan theories during that time
Lmaooo yeah itās basically āthe story didnāt happen how I predicted itā
such a good moment
I think Wano single-handedly killed any respect I could have for Morj, heās the poster boy of evaluating that arc badly
Things like āKaido vs Luffy has no themeā
thatās fair, the weekly grind is very different than the binge experience
Jay D Legend too
I saw that whole Wano video of his
bro was just yapping
egghead weekly (after the timeskip) was the worst my perception of one piece had been in a while lol
I wonder why Kaido tells Luffy āthe light never leaves your eyes, does it?ā after weāre told Kaidoās MO is to crush the will of enemies so they surrender and give up hope
I think the results are completely fine in Wano. I heavily dislike execution though.
I wonder if that has anything to do with Luffy awakening his DF - the manifestation of human dreaming - and advancing his Haki - the embodiment of human resolve
To defeat Kaido
Bruh donāt get me started on how people talk about Zoro in Wano either
Wano, you deserve better fans
LOL mine was during the God Valley flashback. But it was more because I wasnāt that interested in the things that were currently happening not because it was bad per se
god valley and rocks was pretty bad for me but i felt more apathy than anger/annoyance
people say that Zoro didnt get nothing in Wano and Iām like ???
greedy ass zoro fans
Its probably because the arc went for 4 years so people got tired during it and imagined ways how it could end and what cool stuff can happen. This happens every arc but Wano was the longest so those ideas had the most time solidfying in peoples heads during Wano
Thatās cool I do get that
Didnt it also happened during covid?
yep
Or was that the anime
Ye
But I hate how when Wano ended, people didnt go back and reevaluate the arc based on what happened and let that shit go
tail end of covid i think
what part of the execution werent you a fan of?
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Subtlety be whooping shonen fansā ass bro
So while it was at the tail end, I guess that didn't help
Oh that was a hellish combo
i wonder if we'll have the same with elbaf when we dont go to the heaven realm
Many people wanted to jump into the manga
Covid + One Pieces longest arc
stuff starts crumbling at the onigashima raid, i still wonder what the point of stuff like numbers, ice oni, x drake's role were
But then they get into Wano and they started feeling annoyed lmao.
yeah covid absolutely blew up one piece popularity wise
but still solid arc
I guess thatās a good point
I can understand the weekly frustration
It should be fine if we at least step foot on it, but if it never even gets mentioned again, well ...
people dropping the series over their ideas not coming to fruition
i donāt think the heaven realm will be completely skipped
Wano has its problems donāt get me wrong but itās definitely overhated
reading weekly vs reading in full is so vastly different
weāve seen 2 out of the 3
Yeah the binge read hits different
you actually feel like an arc is taking too long
i think its fine to drop a series if it goes in a direction you dislike but i assume some people talked about it for weak reasons
Most of the raid, obviously. And the aftermath.
What I dislike about Oda's writing sometimes is that he has all of these great ideas in mind but he just chooses the simplest and fastest ways to execute them.
Elbaph already has haters, Iāve seen people on twitter say that nothing is happening
early elbaph was crazy in this regardš
i had a TON of fun during wano and thats what matters the most in my book
thats a bit absurd considering this is like the most something has escalated in an arc in a while
esp the first 10 chapters
I think Drakeās role is meant to be seen as set up, the real part of his to play will be in the future as the captain of Sword
Lmao
Did we not get the mural in the first 10 chaps
3rd act definitely was running off "Please wrap it up" fumes lmao.
hell my main critique of elbaf is i wish we had more time before we jumped into the knights conflict
one piece fans reaction to introduction, setup and buildup present in every good story:
ARGH THIS IS NOTHING???? WHERE'S THE INTERESTING PART
the latest chapter is kind of a non-chapter but the stuff is definitely happening, one of the fastest escalations we've gotten
I had a lot of fun rewatching it in anime for sure. It's an action packed arc so no wonder.
me neither
resin fruit, raid failing, ivankov mistranslation, sanji carrying zoro, gear 5... peak entertainment if you ask me
Hes a very polarizing character for me
one piece fans need to be forced to read slow burn romance mangas
i just find him boring
yeah thatās true but the reasons I saw were just petty
he does too much
you could tell he was kinda tired at the end lol but I get that complaint
I think he works because he exists to enhance Teech's place in the story but he overstayed his welcome regardless of his important regarding Harald and Loki
they will never experience the slow burn for 80 chapters, then a confession followed by the manga concluding the next chapter
the Elbaph story keeps building and building I donāt guess why people would say that nothing is happening
and vira will be all that and more and none of the bad stuff
I was not expecting Oda to dump most of God Valley through Rocks right here and now but here we are.
who tf is ivankov
oda should let me write one piece the way i want it to be
also you forgot enel hoax

it was really fun to discuss the arc here
I agree
He probably was. But I still can judge, can't I? It's an arc with simultaneously highest highs and lowest lows for me.
We had that talk like back and forth about it anyways.
Rocks is such an cool engima but he hijacked a lot of the backstory significantly lmao.
I still think that was a mistake. Like a big one.
This should've been a Teech thing.
Then he got into Shakky "drama" that didnt even relate to Loki or Harald at all for a split and im like
"Dude are we serious lmao"
yeah itās fair to critique
confession after 80 chapters followed by 50 chapters of a weird phase where they don't kiss ever and have a misunderstanding with each other that has everything run cold in the relationship before a "oh my god finally" climax
Like for all the stuff I used to give the Oden flashback, at the very least it related heavily to Oden and by extension Wano.
But Rocks is the complete opposite
God Valley does give us a lot of context about Imu, domi reverse and stuff but it should've been left for later. It feels too abrupt for the flashback as well.
Like it works because Oda gives us the contextual reason for Harald being a HK and such
But otherwise its stupid lmao
it feels like he didnāt have the time to put it anywhere else in the future which is kinda⦠weird?
I mean thatās pretty much that standard for most post time skip arcs, itās also why we never got anyone from post time skip to join the crew since it focuses alliances.
However ever since Wano and even the final saga began we slowly are getting some balance between them some of the straw hats and side characters and Elbaf is no exception cause we are reaching the end of the story.
I will never understand why Oda decided to blow the Rocks load this early
yeah we didnāt really need it for the purposes here
It follows Harald's and Loki's life but suddenly it shifts to Rocks and it's like... Do we really need context for Rocks at the moment?
It felt like it happened because people (probably editors even) kept begging for God Valley
yeah it feels weirdly placed here, at least we got some Rocks and loki interaction in the end but mostly it feels like Oda had to show God Valley now. I wish Harald joined the Rocks Pirates and was on God Valley so it doesnt feel too much like an interruption
it really does feel like oda just got sick of holding it off
Rocks stop being an enigma would hype up BB more in that specific instance where he will be relevant. But so far he's scheming offscreen.
wdym bro roger having heart eyes at shakky is important to lokis growth
No cover story are random and Yamato stuff did have some neat reveals regarding to Moria for example and how that will play a role in future.
Harald being in God Valley wouldāve made things better
People are so impatient that they want to see the pay off immediately rather than properly have a build up
Like again, Rocks is a very cool character in a vaccum and the GV stuff was obviously essential for stuff happening right now. But the built up to it dragged for no reason in a sense that it felt like Rocks took the steering wheel and made it more relevant to him when that easily could've been saved for Teech, someone who actively was apart of it and was the son of the most infamous pirate of the era.
I wanted a Loki, Harald, Ida story
Especially when the Lola stuff and the Shanks confrontation was glossed over
2 very tremendously important tidbits teased. The former being a thing since WCI
imagine if we didnāt skim over the very important period of harald going from a brash young asshole to a kind ruler, and changing elbaf
think the only irrelevant one thus far is gedatsu unless im missing something, although lola one hasnt become relevant yet (about cover stories)
i do still think weāll get it this arc
I would understand if people are dropping it for actual issues the story is having, but sometimes people are complaining cause their headcanons arenāt coming true
when?
itāll be extremely stupid if we donāt
The 2nd fb
Theres also the Mother Carmel stuff and how that ultimately influenced the giants and their envisioning of a sun god but thats probably less important now

Thats more of a personal thing for me rather than a objective story thing they need to established
Eh, not sure about balance. Robin got a small moment with Saul, but this was very much Loki, Harald, and Rocks show. Maybe with a bit of Shanks. Egghead was very much Kuma and Bonney. The SHs were nowhere near balanced with the main focal point of the arc. Though that's okay, the SHs were mostly pre-TS which gives time for everyone else now
But anyways yeah Eblaph isnt higher because the Flashback is a 50/50.
the reason you have read over 1100 chapters of one piece is Oda is the one deciding how the story is written. I'm not so sure the world would have the same organic, immersive feeling if it was trimmed to be more expedient
i do think this upcoming climax can easily make or break the arc for me
im either gonna be extremely disappointed in how the knights are handled or happy, no in between
No, this is where I think it was his decision. I think he's treating this arc as a setup one and, again, Oda's style nowadays is to choose the most simplest ways to execute stuff he wants.
And having Rocks flashback in this arc gives more context to the current conflict. It's just that. But in return, that actively hurts the coherence of the narrative.
I think most of the points in the first half are good, and resolution was always good until WCI š
I see enough potential to get close to wano's climax
I suppose you are right. But Oda definitelt could've easily at the very bare minimum threw a couple bones.
If I cared about Moria than maybe it would be interesting. I don't really care if it impacts the future if its not something I really am interested in. Just because it might impact something doesn't automatically make it worth reading.
The hijack just feels very sudden
not rival it because wano's climax is simply THE climax, but get close
Rescuers reference! š¤©
YC this is not my actual opinion
why?
I know
If Sommers trips and dies, im probably going to laugh
well Moria is the GOAT but the coverstory was just okay otherwise
whats expedient?
Xebec's story was key to the major decisions Harald made. Harald's story would be incomplete without a detailed description of how Xebec's life impacted Harald.
Sommers tripping on a spike he forgot
Robin shouldve done this with her arms
Shes kind of stupid man.
she doesn't have haki what do you think
She has the Koala self defense training
I think it might work
Yeah but see, he was prolly thinking "oh I gotta give people some crumbs about Imu, WG and Holy Knights cuz they are in this arc. Oh, and BB is also doing something at the moment off screen! I gotta mention him somehow! Oh, and Shanks is relevant to this arc! Sooooo... I can kill all those rabbits with one shot!"
And he wasted no time at God Valley and just followed the script that was important to ELBAF.
Marx do you have Mohdoo blocked or something?
Well yes and no, I think Harald's story was pretty complete even without Rocks. His future goals never changed from his past ones. Rocks might have had him double down, but Harald was very much steadfast with or without Rocks.
Like I could take the Rocks portion of Harald's life out and I think you would still get a complete story of who Harald was
Which is fine but he cuts like half of the arc for the things that matter, which is Elbaf and domi-reverse conflict.
I think that the context for Harald's actions matters but we didnt need an entire side plot to get that point across. The saving grace is that it does give us Imu's presence among other povs that might be explored later.
But otherwise idk, its just so of half and half for me what can I really say.
I suppose Oda felt that this is probably the most important event in that specific generation of time so Oda wanted to plan that in for later developments later.
There are interesting crumbs about it (like Rocks mentioning Davy was the former king) but lol
I think if was probably the best way to get Rocks into the story and tell his part without having to retread old ground again
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So glue
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Of these? Probably Kuma. He's the one I cried for the most of the ones here
it's better for him to have the arc for himself than to retell another that's 
Im shocked someone remembered Kyros
But after God Valley I think OP fans should keep their expectations in check regarding big events
How can you forget? Lol
zoro
Some people definitely did.
wdym
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Exactly what I wrote
why tho
bluko sends the hammer down on YC finally š
I think as-written, Xebec ended up being such a big part of how Harald is contextualized that I have a hard time seeing how you surgically carve out Xebec without changing Harald. Their complicated friendship, falling out, then regret and guilt from Xebec's death causing Harald to implode and latch onto rigid, black and white perspectives, all had an impact on him.
One of the defining questions of Harald, why he was so laser focused on passivism, didn't make sense until we learned about Ida and Xebec
I would argue that the reason God Valley was so meh, was purely because it was flashback contained
Dressrosa is still one of my favorite arcs so not all that hard for me. Plus he's one of the best dads in OP which is a pretty big thing
If it was in the modern era then we would have had a lot more information and jumping around
Like onigashima, I had already figured that we wouldnt get anything crazy
On egghead we did start of with Robin finding out about Ohara books beings still around and Saul still alive and we got some decent moments with Franky and Sanji clutching in during Egghead, and even got one of bittersweet interactions between Sanji and Vegapunk, and then there is whole interactions between Luffy and Emeth too. Hell Kumaās backstory is entirely relevant to the straw hats as a whole considering how it recontextualizes a lot of scenes related to them like the nothing happened moment or the Sabaody separation, hell we might as well even count the Vivi stuff with the reverie incident flashbacks and her observing the egghead incident along with Morgans and Wapol.
As for Elbaf we had the whole Arabasta gang being separated from the adult straw hats where they kissed out Viviās message, we had Robin reuniting with Saul and then finding out the Ohara books where she learned about the Harely text which reflects on Franky finding the Mural, we also had Gaban interacting with monster trio specifically Zoro and even Sanji regarding to Conquerors, and there is whole how Luffy and Shanksā relationship parallels with Loki and Rocksā too which is completely relevant cause how Shanks has so much connections with Elbaf in general, hell the arc is still isnāt over yet which we will see more stuff like Usoppās character development towards his dream regarding to Elbaf, Brookās past with Gunko, and even the possible reunion between straw hats and Vivi that was set up in beginning of the arc.
ayayay papi mucho texto
Fair
I ain reading allat
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Bro you're like that guy at a party that disappears for an hour and then comes back during some heated discussion and keeps asking questions related to it even though we're already over that 
Itās still is Kuma to me
chatgpt summarize their points and argue against them for me
I mean it was in the past and we expected it to be a flashback, but rather that it would be its own flashback or related to Blackbeard
why
@grok is this true
Nobody asked you too lol
Really? I could see it very easily. I think Harald had a much bigger impact on Rocks than the other way around, at least as was presented. It was to the point that myself and others were even questioning if Harald even saw Rocks as a friend in the first place. I think Rocks had an impact on Harald but I think Harald's life would have played out the same way.
Forgot one piece fans are allergic to long texts lmao
!chillscale
thatās me fr LMAOO down to a tee
I've stated multiple times that I would have preferred Rocks and God Valley to have been in a BB flashback and that we got more time with loki this flashback
Correct None of us can read, we are just saying shit
Yeah Xebecās death definitely had impact on Haraldās story
I use speech to text
Real lmao
Excellent answers thank you everyone
As a reward
grok listen to this song for me
I think the other thing that was exhausting was the discussion around Shakky's purpose in the story and the eventual capture.
who even eats McDonalds anymore
If you remove Rocks. Harald would still have the same dream he had at the beginning as he did in the end. The inspiration for Harald's dream wasn't Rocks, it was Ida. I think the story would still work if you put Rocks elsewhere or left him here
oh. hell. yeah.
yeah I know but in general its ok if its containe dinn a flashback
Which has nothing to do with Oda's ability as a writer but man, that period of time felt painfully long
I feel like this is opposite for me when it comes to god valley, like I got way more out of it than I expected lmao.
It's more like regarding BIG, MAJOR events people expect too much from it when everything serves a purpose. And we can see that Oda just focuses on parts he thinks are crucial at the moment.
Considering they are still #1 in fast food, a lot of people?
Itās not a bad fast food option
idk why mcdonalds just tastes different than local fast food brands to me
it has less taste
McDs is still popular across the globe, they just made the mistake of increasing their prices too much.
of course it tastes worse. it's McDs. but sometimes you want slop.

I love those chicken burgers
i always get chicken sandwiches at fast food for some reason that seems better






