also-manga

[sage temple]

Which makes no sense

[spice cairn]

[formal wagon]

harald 😭

[olive sigil]

She reminds me a lot of Ida, she seems to have been raised in that bar. Maybe she’s like Luffy and makino

[tranquil blade]

I think Big Mom would potentially make the situation worse

[formal wagon]

hot take: harald is stupid and rocks should have no diffed him

[sweet anvil]

You don’t see ussop in comparison to the size of the explosion ?

[spice cairn]

She could've made it her millitary base

[tranquil blade]

Yes but Harald spent his time making it not a military base

So I feel their goals would not be aligned

[spice cairn]

Women rule the story Avery

[formal wagon]

is this edited

[spice cairn]

Im sorry

[tranquil blade]

Well thats true...

[spice cairn]

This isnt about what Harald wants

Its what Big Momma wants

Besides, you either get conquered by linlin or well, this chapter happens

Pick your poison

[sweet anvil]

If ussop was genuinely weaker than a giant civilian how much stronger do you think he would get in the next 1-2 arcs

He’s fighting van augur 💔

Eventually

[spice cairn]

Ussop's big fight is Van Augur

Not looking good for Ussop specifically even if Ussop genuinely just wins

Because going to be honest, Van Augur seems to be an easy fight.

[sweet anvil]

?

[spice cairn]

However idk, that doesnt really show Ussops growth

[tranquil blade]

Van Augur is an easy fight for someone really strong

[maiden charm]

He's gonna fight his daddy first and he'll teach him the Haki knot method for his bullets . Trust ✌🏽

[tough dust]

a character moment for usopp will be enough for me

[spice cairn]

I have Ussop's back on this fight specifically because Van Augur just doesnt seem like the guy that can change up the tempo to offset Ussop.

Like obviously Van Augur is "better"

[maiden charm]

I thought so, but look at what happened in thriller bark gng 💔

[spice cairn]

But he is also seemingly extremely cocky and too comfortable with his fruit

[sage temple]

Oh alr I see him

Yeah that's probably a big explosion

Do we see the aftermath?

What damage did it do?

[sweet anvil]

It wasn’t aimed at a civilian

It was page 1 in his zoan form

[spice cairn]

Its just going to be a game of Ussop just adapting with Augur and idt itll take too long.

But im being nice after spending this last hour mocking him a bit.

[sage temple]

Ok

What damage did it do

[sweet anvil]

Wait I need to find the full chapter

[tranquil blade]

Why are all the BB pirates 12 feet tall

[maiden charm]

Why not

[tough dust]

u say that but the story will not allow usopp to lose to him lol

[spice cairn]

Human height in this series never makes fucking sense

Why is Kuzan 20 feet taller than Tashigi

[maiden charm]

10-15 ft is the ideal one piece height

[tough dust]

height scaling

oma

[thick mango]

fate makes you tall

[tranquil blade]

Maybe it's just to make them intimidating

because it definitely works

[keen quiver]

The bb pirates have zero short people

[spice cairn]

The Jaya panel where theyre like 20x bigger than the people in the town feel so surreal

[keen quiver]

Even the impel down folks

Are all tall

[spice cairn]

Like I thought it was a mistake at first but no

Theyre genuinely that big

Burgress and Teech are the only people who are reasonably sized

[keen quiver]

Ngl buddy was dumb for trying to intimidate teach

Who was like 10ft taller

[spice cairn]

Kuzan is really fucking big though

So that isnt saying much

[maiden charm]

BB is the shortest rs

[keen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/kurohige-and-koby-face-off-big-balls-no-fear-koby-facing-blackbeard-koby-and-blackbeard-gif-231388842330707949

Like brother

[sage temple]

What damage did it do...?

[keen quiver]

Look up

[sage temple]

Lmao

[formal wagon]

hot take: blackbeard is taller than koby

[maiden charm]

Okay but koby is on the smaller side tho

[spice cairn]

He should've flicked his booger on Kobys face

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-animated-gifs-one-piece-egghead-arc-one-piece-the-blackbeard-pirates-one-piece-kurohige-gif-16305747874223370111

I would've laughed so hard

[maiden charm]

Fishmen I think

[spice cairn]

San Juan is a giant

[maiden charm]

Or giant

[tranquil blade]

He's a giant that ate a fruit that makes him even bigger

[maiden charm]

Ahh there it is

[spice cairn]

He was the only BBP who had his fruit already iirc

[maiden charm]

I get him mixed up with the sea monk

[spice cairn]

Like during MF

[tranquil blade]

Lafitte mightve had his fruit

[spice cairn]

Well besides Teech ofc

[maiden charm]

He did

[spice cairn]

I dont think Lafitte is human

But thats my HC

You might be right

Lafitte is a very unnatural character

[maiden charm]

We see Laffite use wings like around alabasta I think

[spice cairn]

Arguably more than Teech already is.

[keen quiver]

One of the worst iq moments in the series

Talked all that crap

Before looking

😭

[spice cairn]

He probably died then and there btw

[maiden charm]

Sarquiss lives

[keen quiver]

Wasn't he on on the egghead speech

Shown still in jaya

Loser behavior

After 2 years

[spice cairn]

He was one of Bellamys guys

[maiden charm]

Big knife sarquiss was bellamys home boy

[hazy patrol]

who wasnt show in the egghead speech

[maiden charm]

That was roshio

[hazy patrol]

oda was just showing old characters for the love of the game

[spice cairn]

Oh I thought he died with the rest of the people reaching Sky Island lmao

[keen quiver]

Enel

[hazy patrol]

enel is on the moon das different

hes coming back btw

[spice cairn]

And jobbing to Hina

[maiden charm]

Roshio had no place showing up cause he was supposed to be killed by bellamys group

[keen quiver]

Could be teach literally crushed his head there

And he died

[spice cairn]

Thats what I want to imagine lmao

I dont think he appears after this panel

[maiden charm]

Non non, roshio and sarquiss live

[spice cairn]

Like he seriously just instantly died

Its unlikely but for HC sake thats the funniest death in the series hands down

[keen quiver]

Idk its just crazy talking all that crap

And still being a paradise crew

[maiden charm]

Apparently sarquiss might've died during the Skypia expedition

[spice cairn]

Thats what likely happened.

[maiden charm]

Looking back, Bellamy said he lost his crew going the other route

[spice cairn]

His entire crew wiped iirc

[keen quiver]

Bellamy was always just washed

Some crews just have it

And others don't

[distant vine]

https://fxtwitter.com/ToonHive/status/2009808260749222047?s=20

ToonHive (@ToonHive)

Happy 50th birthday to the talented Justin Cook.

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Can they gift him a One Piece character with aura for his birthday?

😭

[upper rose]

kid and bellamy share vas?

[distant vine]

Yes

[upper rose]

didn't know that

[final trench]

Ahhh ik kidd sounded familiar

He was raditz

[sage temple]

Kidd AND Bellamy? 😭 No way his choice was to voice them

[spice cairn]

Bro I know parallel piece is a meme

But this is too much 😭

[scarlet nacelle]

what do YOU think happened?
toei agents came to his house and kidnapped him?

[sage temple]

Yes

Smth like that

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-viola-viola-one-piece-princess-dressrosa-gif-15198245294962891024

I clap like this

[distant vine]

Youre no Viola

[formal wagon]

one second closer to vira 🥹

and eustass chopping imu in half with chekhov's second giant sword

[spice cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/nico-robin-robin-robin-one-piece-one-piece-fishman-island-gif-10700856170323122251

Vira incoming

[hazy echo]

https://fixupx.com/chaperoxx/status/2009647768667857324/en

미소 (@chaperoxx)

📑 Translated from Korean

In the One Piece world, guns are this useless.

Original text
원피스 세계관에서 총은 이 정도로 쓸모없음

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FixupX · Jan 9, 2026, 3:25 PM

[sage temple]

Can't wait for Loki to release his anger

[spice cairn]

Ok tbf in their defense they were shooting highly capable guys

[sage temple]

🥹

[spice cairn]

Animal I've become.mp3

[sage temple]

Whats that

[hazy echo]

How old are ya

[sage temple]

Is that a niche reference

[final trench]

Peak

[spice cairn]

Godlike song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9h7hU6_VI4

Theres no way you never listened to this song

Its on every amv back then

[hazy echo]

Three Days Grace isn't niche at all

Yea like

How old are you to have not heard from them before

[spice cairn]

Socrates...

[sage temple]

This is the worst song I've ever heard

Why would I ever consider listening to this

[hazy echo]

Bro doesn't know ball

[sage temple]

Balright

[past maple]

[spice cairn]

No fucking way dude

You did not call this shit, shit

[final trench]

Alright mods i think yall will love this proposition

[spice cairn]

This was like, our childhood

[past maple]

[sage temple]

Acting like this is the national anthem or something

[final trench]

Nigga this is better than the national anthem

You gotta go man im sorry

[past maple]

Ok

[hazy echo]

Have you heard of Linkin Park at least

[spice cairn]

Socrates have you at the very least listened to any song in the last 20 years

[sage temple]

Yes but I don't listen to rock

[spice cairn]

That explains it.

[past maple]

[spice cairn]

Fair, its an acquired test

Taste*

Not to sound Reddit...

[sage temple]

Yeah alright

[spice cairn]

[gritty tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[spice cairn]

Bro I still cant believe you never heard this song

[past maple]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-happy-new-year-gif-24516985

[hazy echo]

What songs do you listen to then?

[past maple]

Um ok

[sage temple]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4Wb1h1P1WOixTictyx1JwW?si=e96d724367bb4b4e

Lower ur volume idk why that's so loud

[spice cairn]

Ok

Time to listen to this shit

[past maple]

s##

[unique lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/listening-what-fbi-chris-redd-alex-moffat-gif-11784633

[spice cairn]

Bro made a song called shrek

[sage temple]

Is it good

?

[past maple]

Feeeeeaaaaaaaaa

[spice cairn]

I mean I think its ok

Ive listened to similar stuff

But my stuff is mostly early mid 2000s hip hop

[sage temple]

Also I sent one earlier

[spice cairn]

Uzi Vert is always good tbf

[past maple]

👌

[formal wagon]

holy shit

thats the funniest thing i've ever seen in this server

im losing it

[spice cairn]

I can see Vira's theme being this

[spice cairn]

Wait which specific interaction

[past maple]

[sage temple]

Me too ngl I love this beat

[glacial bear]

Skibidi Ohio

[past maple]

Welcome to Ohio

[spice cairn]

Ok ngl that emote combo is funny as fuck in reaction to the song

[sage temple]

😭

[formal wagon]

the luffy name and pfp is whats making it one of the best of all time

whitename luffy name luffy pfp with a banger is like finding a unicorn

[past maple]

[spice cairn]

The beat is from the Wayne song

Same song name

So thats interesting

[sage temple]

Oh alr I was wondering cz the title I got it from said lil wayne and I didn't hear him on it

[past maple]

[spice cairn]

Yeah its based on the old song from that era

I was like "damn why does it sound so similar"

Then it clicked

[past maple]

[vital heart]

Aloha!

[past maple]

Loki say something

[grand flower]

What up bitches

[sage temple]

[past maple]

Luffy and who

[spice cairn]

Chillin

Hbu

[formal wagon]

redbei soon i suppose

[past maple]

Who’s? Joy boy

[spice cairn]

Vira power up

[grand flower]

Just helped a friend move

I’m finally home

Time to get high as giraffe thoughts and eat

[formal wagon]

joy boy is luffy. Luffy was joyboy but he had his memory wiped, was turned into a baby and sent into the future, so he's not dragon's actual son. good for dragon tbh.

sent into the future via toki herself or the previous holder of her devil fruit

we know time can't go backwards but luffy and joyboy have similar hats so they must be the same person.

how else do you exlpain the hats

[formal wagon]

[past maple]

Hoooooooooo

[formal wagon]

powerscaling

[grand flower]

Damn I wanted to do a tattoo tonight but it’s way too late

[sage temple]

[past maple]

The Luffy power still holds on

[spice cairn]

Lucci with Stick always gets to me

[formal wagon]

its so sad

barrel synthesis

[grand flower]

Show me

[past maple]

Rob Luccl 1 year old☠️

That looks like a man

[formal wagon]

well its him at 1

powerscaling 2

[sage temple]

Do you make deez

[formal wagon]

yeah

haven't made a third one

i ran out of horses and men with markings so i just threw tot musica and dalton in

[past maple]

[vital heart]

Aloha!

[celest mauve]

https://x.com/i/status/2009567071118762427

ジャンプコラ画像集 (@jamp_225)

X · Jan 9, 2026, 10:05 AM

[vital heart]

EOS Strawhats Top 6 if Oda locks in

[formal wagon]

where's chopper

[tidal ice]

Loki believer based

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-loki-based-thank-you-for-your-support-gif-3192015886646125281

[golden valley]

get jinbei outta there

[formal wagon]

the british call fries chips
goda

[high wolf]

Switch Ussop with jimbei

[vapid flower]

no Usopp? Oda really failed fr

[formal wagon]

the americans call chips pringles.
goda

[clever idol]

Stfu

He BELONGS

[sage temple]

Still bummed Jinbe is getting snubbed for CoC by Sanji just cuz of a stupid parallel

Now that non humans have finally gotten CoC I hope that's foreshadowing Jinbe cz it's been too long 🥹

[clever idol]

Ive always hated the monster trio bs

Let the shs all shine

That parallel exists because of the monster trio dynamic

[sage temple]

Me too and it always gives like a drawback for anyone who joins the crew

[clever idol]

Yep

[sage temple]

Part of the reason why I don't want Loki to join

[clever idol]

Yea but him joining is a longshot. Also itd be insane if he joined and then is made to be that much weaker

[sage temple]

For sure because right now he's competing with some Yonkos in most conversations

Super excited to see how Loki fights and his whole moveset

[unique lagoon]

nb4 its just hit em harder

with da hammer

[sage temple]

Yeah I want to see his named attacks

He's just been swinging the bih so far

Also his Devil Fruit is bound to have some moves

Not to mention the potential eye powers

[high wolf]

I could see him becoming a major ally to the SHs. But I don't think he's joining the crew.

[late compass]

remembered how i got spoiled for ace’s death by browsing custom smash bros stages oh my god 💔

[vital heart]

I thought you said dih

as in dick

I thought you said Loki has been swinging his dih (dick) so far

And I was like woah

Yeah right

I dont think so

One Piece is PG 13

Well, the Japanese equivalent of PG 13

So yeah

Aloha!

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-freaky-cry-gif-2673645830423664815

[placid shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-lebron-james-lebron-looking-down-leking-legoat-gif-622307020136227273

[past maple]

[formal wagon]

😭 new sticker in curent year

[ruby moat]

omg what server is that sticker from

wait...

😮

[high wolf]

They recently added this

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-squirrel-10th-gif-15366094121033477354

[outer flax]

On the scale of 1-10 , how bad is chopper post timeskip

[clever idol]

0

Hes wonderful

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/steamboat-willie-gif-16335770874696782242

[high wolf]

8/10

Pre ts chopper is miles better.

He's just a mascot now 😭

[clever idol]

Your mama a lie

Sick of u chopper haters

Yall have such shit taste

[prime sage]

Top 10 in the verse with rumble balls

[fossil nimbus]

fr

[maiden saffron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FUEGWfM808

https://tenor.com/view/who-me-eho-me-pointing-at-self-nah-gif-14254531587298250253

greenbull

[clever idol]

Like they need to let it go

[wind wind]

Theres so many parts and its all in japanese im cooked

[honest bronze]

Damn also manga is more active

[honest bronze]

4

Give back fat chopper

[muted marsh]

GODSOPP!!??

[muted marsh]

@upper rose let em know

[hearty shore]

go by pure instinct

[wind wind]

[glacial adder]

u have to google translate every page 💀 💀

[wind wind]

seems doable from the pictures

and it has symbols for the different parts that you can match and see which one you need

[glacial adder]

thats lucky

oh dang

daz good

if it wasnt manag youre cookes

cooked*

[keen quiver]

Greenbull sneak

Wtf

😭

Who invited him

[frozen aspen]

the only god greenbull is, is the god of racism

[rose rune]

forest god greenbull

a fitting title for such a grandiose being

[warm fossil]

fellas I'm gonna be real I'm starting to lose hope

mihawk might never get a feat

[alpine trench]

fuck yes

[frozen aspen]

funniest outcome

mihawk simply looses to zoro at the end without ever being shown fighting another toptier

[warm fossil]

that's where we're heading

[rose rune]

he'll probably cut a mountain or two before zoro beats him.

[thick mango]

Cross guild will get mixed up into things he'll have something

[warm fossil]

that's genuinely worse than doing nothing

[formal wagon]

they brought back the good maps

[azure wasp]

Already do

[formal wagon]

has anyone made this connection yet, feat= feet
like the thing arsal likes or something

the fruit is underground

wait fuck like low hanging fruit

[high wolf]

Mihawk doesn't need feats.

He's already stronger than Shanks. That's more than enough.

[rose rune]

https://tenor.com/view/krzak-tumbleweed-biegacze-chamaechory-pustka-gif-23100634

[high wolf]

This chat is dead

[warm fossil]

only if you want to always be the erm actually fanbase

[azure wasp]

His title is the feat
Every other swordsman feats are also his feats

[formal wagon]

feethawk

think about that one

[warm fossil]

no

[formal wagon]

okay just ponder then

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/mihawk-one-piece-agenda-piece-mihawk-upscale-mrbeep-gif-4652002396828019758

[olive sigil]

Arsal would be so proud

[olive sigil]

But his actual feats aren’t even his. It’s all Imu

[high wolf]

Every Shanks upscale is a Mihawk upscale. But every Mihawk upscale Is NOT a shanks upscale 🐐

[olive sigil]

Every Mihawk upscale is an Imu upscale

[high wolf]

True

[vestal mural]

We’re getting chapter this week right?

It’s been ages

[high wolf]

Next week

[vestal mural]

Yea like this upcoming Friday I mean

I forget yall start the week on Monday

[high wolf]

You start your week on Saturday? 😭

[vestal mural]

Sunday

But it’s 1pm for me already so might as well be Sunday lol

[high wolf]

Ohh

[prisma yacht]

Yesssirrr

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-god-dressrosa-usopp-god-usopp-gif-26183922

[rapid ridge]

Mip

[vestal mural]

Babe

[rapid ridge]

Join my coc clan

[fossil nimbus]

chopper is the forest god but no one is ready for that discussion

[muted marsh]

Mihawk pfp...

Whats he hiding

[vapid topaz]

Every px mihawk feat is a mihawk feat

[formal wagon]

mihawk feat -> mihawk feet

[vestal mural]

Untried to restore my account like 20 times. It’s no use

And I ain’t starting from zero

[rapid ridge]

[high wolf]

Mihawk > Shanks

[rose rune]

I was playing a game when suddenly sanji's voice actor pops out of nowhere

felt bizarre

[olive sigil]

What the heck

Is he gone?

How did he suddenly get in your home

What was he even doing there

[rose rune]

semantics aside, I had a hard time paying attention to what he was saying because all I could think was "that has to be sanji, it must be him"

[shell scroll]

Icl idky people cope so hard thinking ragnir gonna go to ussop

[spice cairn]

Its coming to me

[olive sigil]

He may not go to Usopp but he will find a way to use it

[spice cairn]

Im the peanut feeder

[olive sigil]

Have you even held a hammer before in your life

[spice cairn]

A couple times

That's why im a good candidate

[olive sigil]

Do you carry around a bag full of nuts and seeds that you shoot around?

[rain cedar]

Please Oda, I need this. My sniper is kinda useless

[spice cairn]

I eat them

[olive sigil]

How big was your hammer

[spice cairn]

But if a squirrel ask ill give him some

Typical Home Depot Hammer

[olive sigil]

A little hammer?

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-through-wall-dumb-wall-gif-18326556

I unfortunately can’t lift Ragnir

My dog hates squirrels

[azure wasp]

That round back to mihawk upscale because he's imu son

[olive sigil]

He’s just some random holy knight

[azure wasp]

Holy knights gets power from imu so it works, trust

[rain cedar]

Mihawk fans will use every character but their own to gas him

[azure wasp]

Nah all mihawk fans need is his title and zoro dream.
Others get used because rest of fans can't accept it

[prime sage]

Any mihawk upscale is a zoro upscale. Any zoro upscale is a Sanji scaled. Any Sanji upscale/scale is any op woman’s upscale. Therefore Dandan > Mihawk

[high wolf]

[fossil nimbus]

if you think about it, Dadan upscale is Ace upcale, which is Jinbei upscale, and Jibei upscale is Mihawk upscale because Mihawk one shot him. Everything is Mihawk upscale

[prime sage]

Mihawk Upscale paradox

[olive sigil]

“Mihawk one shot him”

[formal wagon]

"mihawk how was your day"
"mihawk whats your favorite wine"
"mihawk are you afraid of s-hawk"
"mihawk what happens when the tuah"

[frozen aspen]

dadan clears Larp so she automatically upscales 99.99% of all characters

[muted marsh]

And he ran from who? Thats right

https://tenor.com/view/vista-upscale-one-piece-vista-one-piece-agenda-piece-one-piece-memes-gif-684641358113973233

[cold steppe]

Mihawk's level has been decided in marineford, it's not a mystery for it to need upscale or downscale

Scaling discussions is only for those we haven't seen anything off like dragon or Beckman...

[shell scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/mihawk-one-piece-agenda-piece-mihawk-upscale-mrbeep-gif-4652002396828019758

[shell scroll]

If Mihawk wasnt in marinford then the only scene he’s in is wielding a small knife against Zoro he has no haki no nothing at that time so he’s just right at the bottom? Clearly not so just basing it off past scenes isn’t representative of them which is why scaling can happen regardless

[cold steppe]

Yeah but he was in marineford
"I want to measure the distance between us" (about whitebeard) gets stopped by jozu
Goes toe to toe with Vista
Failed to stop luffy
Gets stopped by crocodile

Now imagine all of this I just said, but it's an emperor instead of mihawk

[vital heart]

!rmd list

[formal wagon]

7 months is like >20 chapters thats pretty risky

[red lagoon]

If u think that’s Mihawk full power then idek for u

[cold steppe]

Thinking it's not is the headcanon part

Because there's nothing that suggests he was holding back

In fact to measure that "distance" that automatically means he went all out

Not to mention when he admits flat out he was about to go all out against luffy

[high wolf]

You think Mihawk showed his full power in marineford? 😭

[dapper tree]

Mihawk said it tho

Is mihawk a liar

[cold steppe]

I don't think lol. Its the manga

I haven't said once what I think

[dapper tree]

Can't believe Mihawk is a liar and steals feats.

He is just like Usopp for real

[high wolf]

I know what you're talking about.

I think that Mihawk statement is suppose to refer to his blade, Yoru, not himself.

We know that all swords have their own soul. (For ex. Enma) Yoru has its own soul and it doesn't discriminate against anybody.

I think my point is further supported by the fact that he didn't even use a single named attack during Marineford.

So, Mihawk himself is holding back, but his blade Yoru isn't.

Also, notice how he doesn't refer to "Himself" a single time.

[dapper tree]

Named attacks

Lmao

Good one

"Himself" thing is a BB tier theory too

Nice combo

[high wolf]

Refute it if you can lmao

It's obviously headcanon

[dapper tree]

It's ok. Named attacks are a meme reasoning

[high wolf]

But it makes more sense than saying mihawk was using FP during Marineford 😭💔

[high wolf]

Doesn't refute what I'm saying

[dapper tree]

Look man

You have a mihawk pfp

And ya depending mihawk

[hazy turret]

Happy birthday to my captain, my goat, my king of the pirates, my WORLD

[dapper tree]

Nothing I say will possibly change your mind

[high wolf]

It literally doesn't matter lmao 💔

If you think Mihawk was using FP during Marineford, You need to re-read the series again.

[high wolf]

Saying Shanks is stronger than mihawk makes more sense than saying mihawk was going all out during marineford 💔

[dapper tree]

Well, the first is just true

[ornate tartan]

unfortunately it does

[high wolf]

Spoiler: Both are false 😹

[ornate tartan]

prove us wrong

[high wolf]

Okay. Let's start.

Why do you think Shanks > Mihawk?

[dapper tree]

Cause shanks is the 2nd strongest person alive rn

[high wolf]

Imu?

[dapper tree]

Let me fix that

[high wolf]

Also, Mihawk > because of the WSS title.

[ornate tartan]

expired title

[dapper tree]

Yes title scaling, my fav

[high wolf]

Good, still isn't true 😹

[high wolf]

Prove that it's an expired title.

[high wolf]

You know you can't refute it 😹😹

[alpine trench]

incredible discussion

truly intellectual

[high wolf]

I agree

[dapper tree]

Ain't no way the strongest is Imu then mihawk then Shanks. That's beyond crazy. (Socrates, would put loki over both and below imu)

[ornate tartan]

World renowned WSS known across the world being talked to like this by Don Kreig😂😂😂

same guy who was sweating for Red Leg Zeff😭😭🐐

[high wolf]

That's a YOU problem 😭

[high wolf]

Read the entire chapter lmao 😭

Also, this has nothing to do with Mihawk being stronger than shanks.

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/fraudhawk-onepiece-one-piece-wondewood-mihawk-gif-9437913938091077058

[dapper tree]

Mihawk saying that Pirate king is a harder title to get than his title and the yonko are the 4 closest to that is why I put them (minus buggy of course) over mihawk

[high wolf]

[ornate tartan]

if shanks had panels of him clashing with a non emperor like vista i would never open my mouth

but he isn’t a warlord so i don’t have to worry

[high wolf]

Ofc the Yonko scaling.

[dapper tree]

Yeah, shanks, kaido, bm, wb would never be stalled out by vista

[ornate tartan]

Kaido vs Vista😂😂

can’t even imagine that

[dapper tree]

Mihawk says this, lmao. He says pk is harder to get than his. And the yonko are the closest to PK

[high wolf]

Being a yonko means you have great political power in the world. It has nothing to do with strength. (Literally the reason why Buggy is a yonko)

[dapper tree]

It kinda has a lot to do with that

[high wolf]

And, did I deny it?

[high wolf]

Nope

[dapper tree]

It uhhh kinda really do

[ornate tartan]

what political power does Kaido have?😂😂😂

[dapper tree]

He had some over some territorial stuff

[fossil nimbus]

It clearly is. PK means going against every other pirate and trying to find an island only 1 person has found by reading ponelgyphs that only like one person can read. Being WSS just means becoming strong enough to beat Mihawk

[high wolf]

Uhh, territories?
Army?
Connections?
Underworld business? 😭😭

[ornate tartan]

that’s not the reason he’s a yonko

otherwise you’ve lost the plot

[alpine trench]

i mean

he is

he has territory and power which he consolidated to become a yonko

[dapper tree]

And mihawk really doesn't do all that much

[alpine trench]

someone who's just strong but with no territory or power is not a yonko

[ornate tartan]

read this and tell me what it says

[high wolf]

It's EXACTLY Why He's yonko.

Yonkos have GREAT political power. It's literally why Buggy is a yonko. He may not be a strong individual, but he's LITERALLY a big player in the New World.

[alpine trench]

mihawk is strong as fuck but he's not an emperor because he doesnt stake territory and influence

[ornate tartan]

@high wolf

[dapper tree]

Mihawk has like nothing but a title to scale him to Shanks and feat stealing

[high wolf]

Exactly

[dapper tree]

His actual feats hurt him

[fossil nimbus]

Yep, Mihawk, currently is just a very strong person looking for someone who could take his title. He'll probably be given a bigger role as the story progresses.

[alpine trench]

yeah he conquered territory under his name, that's what that panel is saying, he consolidated power through his strength and became an emperor

[high wolf]

What does this prove/refute exactly?

[dapper tree]

He's gonna just lose to zoro, thats his role

[alpine trench]

that actually proves the opposite of what you're claiming

[dapper tree]

He's not fighting a gorosei or yonko

[high wolf]

It kinda proves MY point

[alpine trench]

mihawk is not an emperor because he's not entitled to a huge crew, power and territory

[dapper tree]

And fighting a Holy knight is just punching down

[fossil nimbus]

who knows what Oda might do, but he's definitely going to get a big fight before fighting zoro. Zoro is part of the main cast, if Zoro fought the Mihawk with his current feats, it's not going to be satisfying.

[alpine trench]

kaido's political influence had him sitting atop wano and proving a deterrent to get into the country

like that's real power

[high wolf]

Just explain to me why Buggy became a yonko?

[dapper tree]

Zoro is already very close

[ornate tartan]

I agree I think Mihawk should get a good fight to showcase what he’s capable of

[dapper tree]

There ain't no one for him

[ornate tartan]

because as it stands now if zoro is his only fight it would be devastating

[dapper tree]

No one worth it anyway

[distant vine]

Even if he gets one, I feel like that was bare minimum tbh...

[dapper tree]

Plot wise

[red lagoon]

How does that mean there stronger than him

[dapper tree]

[ornate tartan]

but the thing is who would Mihawk fight

[red lagoon]

Becoming pirate king is harder yes but how does that = there above Mihawk

[ornate tartan]

that isn’t zoro

[dapper tree]

Kaido would club in his head

But he's dead

[fossil nimbus]

i'm saying Mihawk will definitely get some top tier feats before his fight with zoro. Now Mihawk is in cross guild, there are ppl like fuji or gb he could fight. he could fight maybe shamrock. garling or nusjuro. he could fight the seraphim, etc.

[tough igloo]

Mihawk don’t gotta find poneglyphs and a poneglyph reader to be the WSS .. not even including strength , you have to do way more to be PK than WSS so Mihawk statement is valid

[high wolf]

Yonko is NOT a strength title.

Oda making buggy a yonko just kinda supports my point.

[red lagoon]

Exactly

[distant vine]

He's definetly not fighting Ethanbaron

[red lagoon]

Pk is more about strength

[fossil nimbus]

@ornate tartan

[distant vine]

Zoro and him are gonna have a Kitetsu fight

[high wolf]

While mihawk's WSS is a strength title.

[ornate tartan]

Fujitora is my personal pick

don’t think the others make as much sense

Fuji Sengoku are going to attack cross guild

[fossil nimbus]

I also think he'll most likely fight him

[ornate tartan]

for hunting the marines

[dapper tree]

If he fights an admrial to high diff. I would laugh. Shamrock is weaker than garling or Nusjuro by rank. And the gorosei seem barely stronger than the admrials if that. All wouldnt help mihawk unless he 1 taps them and that would just make a lot of other people look bad

[ornate tartan]

fuji has a supreme grade blade too

interesting stuff

[tough igloo]

he gotta 1 tap a admiral ? wtf nobody is doing that lol

[red lagoon]

😭

[dapper tree]

It took WB 2 taps. Lol, mihawk double as strong

[red lagoon]

Bruh

[tough igloo]

it didn’t go reread please

[high wolf]

Strength plays a factor in becoming a yonko. But the main thing is political influence.

So this doesn't really refute my point.

[tough igloo]

smh

thinking anybody is 1 tapping admiral is delusion and time to stop the agenda games

unless it’s Imu or something

and i’m not even a “admiral “ guy but that’s just common sense

[dapper tree]

I want Mihawk to high diff or extreme diff an admrial

That's where my headcanon is

[ornate tartan]

no admiral in the story ever got bitched tbh, except greenbull

but i’m of the opinion that the og admirals are way superior to the new ones so i think the trio of akainu kuzan and kizaru wouldn’t get one tapped

[red lagoon]

Does shanks high of extreme diff a admiral

[tough igloo]

Rocks offscreened a admiral and still had wounds on his face showing us it won’t a easy fight at all

[dapper tree]

No he beats them up

[red lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-roll-ugh-stanley-rolls-eyes-gif-9403428

[ornate tartan]

if greenbull and fuji are as strong as the og 3 then that’s a diff story

[dapper tree]

I bet rocks also back stabbed, classic bb genes at work. Where bb got it from

[dapper tree]

I am of the shanks is stronger party

[tough igloo]

that’s some nice headcanon but point is nobody outside of imu is 1 tapping or low diffing a admiral

[high wolf]

If mihawk high-extreme diffs an admiral, then Shanks extreme diffs them.

[tough igloo]

not shanks mihawk roger BB Luffy rocks harald etc

[dapper tree]

Only according to you

I refuse to believe silly stuff

[red lagoon]

Whether u think shanks or Mihawk are stronger there both at minimum relative to each other

[dapper tree]

Ehhhh

[tough igloo]

literally .. their stan’s always try to downplay the other

[high wolf]

Shanks being stronger than mihawk is just So stupid lmao 😭

[ornate tartan]

Shanks alr fought a character stronger then the Admirals

his name is Loki

[dapper tree]

It really isn't

[high wolf]

True

[tough igloo]

shanks stan’s try to downplay mihawk & mihawk stan’s try to downplay shanks .. been doing this for years lol

[high wolf]

I've yet to hear a single good argument on why shanks is stronger than mihawk.

[analog ruin]

i totally agree buggy isnt string but there hasnt been any attack which could harm him yet because chop has very high defense and speed capabilities that buggy himself isnt aware of

[ornate tartan]

let’s not go too far

[dense haven]

wtf sungodnika is back

[ornate tartan]

buggy lost to east blue luffy

[dense haven]

hide your cunks

[analog ruin]

YESSIR

[analog ruin]

thats the neat part he's strong but not beatable

[tough igloo]

and there are plenty of attacks that can hurt Buggy 😭 yall overhype his power as if he’s immune to everything

[analog ruin]

he isnt strong*

[high wolf]

Buggy's DF awakening is gonna be historical 🥹❤️

[analog ruin]

frrrr

[ornate tartan]

he’s only immune to slashes

any blunt force attack will KO him

[shadow python]

Mihawk was even with Shanks prior to him losing his arm. But when was this? Because Shanks was weaker than base Loki 2 years prior to losing his arm and was presumably superior to Loki later on when devil fruit Loki with Squirrel was captured.

[analog ruin]

nah only god ussop can defeat him

[tough igloo]

exactly and we know there are sword attacks that can cause blunt force instead of slashes so they would be able to counter buggy as well

[past nebula]

theoretically if he had some good observation haki he could separate himself before any attacks hit him

[high wolf]

Also, that admiral was holding back because you can't go all out in Mary Geoise if you're an admiral.

[analog ruin]

see

[ornate tartan]

even if you use Haki he’s immune to cutting attacks, because his body will just seperate at the point of contact. Haki can negate fruit powers but they can’t change what a paramecia already altered from ur body. That’s why Luffy is immune to lightning and Magellan to poison, and Mr5 explosions etc

[analog ruin]

he has SO MUCH POTENTIAL

[tough igloo]

idk about all that since everything was offscreen , i think the point Oda was trying to make with that reveal is that early on in his pirate career Rocks was strong enough to beat a admiral

[analog ruin]

guys lets get over it and just figure out who sogeking is

[red lagoon]

We seen what happens when admirals go all out via punk hazard

[shadow python]

If mihawk was even with Shanks before the current flashback then he would be significantly weaker than Shanks now assuming Shanks did beat Loki in a straight bout.

But even if Mihawk was even after this current flashback there's still too much ambiguity on when Shanks got to his current level because it was only awhile after during the Loki incident where he was recognized as a yonkou on level with big mom and Kaido

[high wolf]

Yeah. But it kinda makes sense since Both GB and Fuji weren't going all out during the rev's infiltration on Mary Geoise.

[past nebula]

aramaki goes all out and creates a nice lil forest

[red lagoon]

All this timeline thing doesn’t need to make sense oda will make u as strong as ur needed for the story he’s not gonna have shanks and Mihawk as rivals then shanks just leaves Mihawk behind

[tough igloo]

possibly but idk .. the admiral wasn’t even relevant enough to get a name so i don’t think Oda was thinking that deep about it 😭just a no-name admiral who only existed to upscale Rocks

[high wolf]

It's stated that the current admirals are stronger than ever

[red lagoon]

Whether shanks or Mihawk is stronger it’s not gonna be by much and they’ll still be relative

[shadow python]

If we look at Mihawks own performance though they're rather underwhelming feats. His seraphim was about on par with Jinbabes and not really a threat. While actual Mihawk was stalled by Vista and Jozu two commanders on same level as Izo

[high wolf]

True

[shadow python]

Mihawk is carried by hype rather than actual performance in a similar manner to Dragon.

I don't want hype though I want feats

[high wolf]

He has Narrative and Portrayal on his side.

[past nebula]

oda definitely doesn't care about powerscaling lol

[ornate tartan]

no don’t compare Mihawk to dragon

Mihawk at least has a title

Dragon has absolutely nothing😂😂😂😂😂😂

[red lagoon]

Exactly look at croc

[high wolf]

[tough igloo]

at least Mihawk hype is due to him having a title with the word “ strongest” in it .. I love Dragon and think he’ll be strong but all his hype comes from the fact of who his family is lol

[red lagoon]

Oda needed him to be stronger so he just was

[ornate tartan]

i will never place mihawk under dragon

[past nebula]

it's all about being convenient for the story

[red lagoon]

Same way if oda decides Mihawk needs to be stronger he will be

[past nebula]

because that's his priority

[royal orchid]

I don't even put mihawk on a list because he's a boring guy that doesn't want to sword anymore

he just wants money

[shadow python]

Mihawks bounty is also significant. It's not exactly a powerlevel but it's worth noting that even though the govt considers Buggy the leader Mihawks bounty is higher and said bounty is comparable to Shanks' despite Mihawk not having his own crew

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-mihawk-gif-27259322

[tough igloo]

i think him being with cross guild is part of the reason his bounty is what it is now but i do still think he had close to 3 billion before cross guild

[vale heath]

Mihawk is definitely top 1400 one piece characters

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[red lagoon]

He can make anyone as strong as he sees fit for the current moment

[high wolf]

It's true tho 😭💔

[red lagoon]

Right

Mihawk has a emphasis on his strength a lot

[tough igloo]

everytime someone calls BB a fraud/weak 😭

[red lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-blackbeard-haki-evil-laugh-one-piece-blackbeard-haki-gif-8010676475224775922

[vale heath]

How high can we scale Saxton Hale in one piece
Is he prime Garp

[shadow python]

Which is weird because despite the fact we've seen him since ch 50 Mihawks strength performances have all been lacking. The last time we were impressed by something Mihawk did was vs Zoro

[high wolf]

Mihawk can NEVER be under any swordsman. Like it just doesn't make any sense.

[shadow python]

Bb beat Jozu and Vista along with the 10 other Wb commanders

[ornate tartan]

a lot of shanks and mihawk fans don’t understand that downscaling either character just makes the one u arguing for look worse😂

but agenda is agenda

[high wolf]

True

[ornate tartan]

like how the hell u got 3 diff characters in between them

[tawny panther]

we got a even better Oda quote for BB .. “ Teach is weak/fraud “ then why does Oda want to join him solely based on STRENGTH over Shanks Kaido Big Mom 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️

[red lagoon]

If u don’t have bb at number 1 idk for u

[ornate tartan]

cuz them
mfs evil asf😂😂

[shadow python]

Two characters being tied to each other is good it allows one to be used to compare the other. But when one of the comparisons underperforms it just makes the other look bad

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/kid_law_2323/status/2009851881745723703/photo/1

玄紫(げんし) (@kid_law_2323)

🌷🐯🌐🐻‍❄ エルバフif
(If they went to Elbaf)

#kidlaw #Onepiecefanart
#trafalgarlaw #Eustasskid

X · Jan 10, 2026, 4:56 AM

[tawny panther]

why would Oda want to join them cause they’re evil lmao especially since he only mentioned “ Strength “

[shadow python]

Case in point there is now an argument that Rocks is weaker than Squirrel

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-evil-evil-cat-mischievous-mischief-gif-13289589621298169963

[tawny panther]

lol that Squirrel has completely changed how a lot of people view powerscaling the Old Gen compared to the New Gen 🤣

[ornate tartan]

because people are blind

i don’t like rocks but if u think he’s losing to that thing u lost ur mind

[ornate tartan]

unless u have a 17 year old loki with no fruit stronger then prime rocks

[tough igloo]

we in the final saga of the entire story now . it’s about time for Oda to start portraying the New Gen surpassing the Old

[shadow python]

Loki wasn't necessarily stronger than squirrel just stronger than Shanks and Gyaban. Squirrel liked him and we already knew that Loki had an affinity with animals

[thin quest]

sorry but bums aren't allowed there

[high wolf]

Law is NOT a bum

Kidd is tho

[ornate tartan]

Kidd is stronger then Law

[tough igloo]

lmao can Kid go one day without catching strays

[high wolf]

Nah

[ornate tartan]

Law doesn’t even have conq and Kidd carried him in the BM fight

[shadow python]

Old gen is quite a ways away from modern. Old garp can match Kuzan who along with Akainu is among the strongest modern force

[muted hedge]

they've got drip tho

[tough igloo]

lmao please stop setting up Kid

[unkempt sable]

Ragnir did break the hammer coated in acoc that clashes evently with harald like a minute ago

[ornate tartan]

how u will of D with no conquerors spirit😂😂😂

[tough igloo]

he got enough slander in wano and with shanks lol

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/trafalgar-law-one-piece-one-piece-law-one-piece-bepo-bepo-gif-20956133

[ornate tartan]

kid came from the trenches and is a conqueror

[distant vine]

If Law was there the Holy Knights would be done for btw

[royal orchid]

law hax does counter holy knights maybe

[muted hedge]

it'll be curious to see how his devil fruit affects them

[thin quest]

Kidd and Law aren't even Zoro or Sanji level 🥀

[unkempt sable]

Just teleport them to the sea

[muted hedge]

like, imagine if the he cuts one of their arms off and they just regenerate a new one

[royal orchid]

I can imagine them just plopping themselves back together after law separates them though

[muted hedge]

yeah

[high wolf]

I don't think either of them carried each other.

Law took advantage of kidd and attacked BM when she wasn't focusing on her.

Kidd didn't really do any damage to big mom, so Law was the one who did the majority of the damage.

[tough igloo]

Big Mom while fighting Law & Kid .. why she ain’t even acknowledge kid strength here and only Law lol

[ornate tartan]

do u think Zoro and Sanji would’ve been able to defeat Big Mom. I think they had no chance in hell

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-kidd-beatup-craztic-one-piece-one-piece-1066-gif-9262561937327442944

[unkempt sable]

The tanker and the dps vs the tank with self heal

[shadow python]

Squirrel broke Lokis hammer yes. But Loki now has a zoan so his abilities are magnified we can't really use his performance against Harald. We can however say that Loki is probably above Rocks if he's above possessed Harald

[high wolf]

Law is NOT a bum. C'mon, just because he lost to BB (Ik, the weakest character itv), doesn't mean he's a bum.

[tough igloo]

lmao this is actually a perfect comparison

[royal orchid]

the Misery scene in the anime was great

[ornate tartan]

ppl also claim big mom was nerfed

in wano

[muted hedge]

i love the colors

[ornate tartan]

idk how accurate that is tho

[thin quest]

they kill her without half the hassle

[shadow python]

Big Mom nearly died because of King

[high wolf]

She wasn't using Conqueror's Coating

[high wolf]

Yeah

[shadow python]

Are we sure she can? She wasn't in Kaidos top 5

[ornate tartan]

i’m talking about Wano versions

[tough igloo]

Big Mom amped herself in wano with her own DF and got bigger and stronger then kept healing herself throughout the fight whenever she would get fucked up badly

[high wolf]

A GOOD TAKE FROM YOU FINALLY

[ornate tartan]

which is kinda similar to now

[high wolf]

Ifrit Jambe and KOH?

[ornate tartan]

yea

[thin quest]

Sanji and Zoro will 2a and 2b by story end, it's just how it is

[high wolf]

Yeah

[distant vine]

Broke her RIBS and people are calling him a bum btw

[tough igloo]

Sanji is irrelevant in any fight with Big Mom

[distant vine]

😭

[high wolf]

They're beating BM

[shadow python]

If Zoro can hurt Kaido he can hurt Big Mom. He's better equipped than Kidd is. But Sanji is no Law

[tough igloo]

they aren’t beating big mom at all lol

[high wolf]

Because she's a woman?

[distant vine]

Zoro cant carry that much no

[thin quest]

Sanji would absolutely body Law

[high wolf]

Yes they are.

[shadow python]

Law and Zoro could beat Big Mom maybe even Law and Sanji. But I don't see Zoro and Sanji doing it

[high wolf]

HOLY W

[ornate tartan]

sanji wouldn’t body law, even tho i think sanji is superior

[distant vine]

They wouldnt be able to show what Law does to Sanji on TV. Sit down

[ornate tartan]

law isn’t as weak as u make him seem

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/chain_ofislands/status/2009872730150277495/photo/1

列島 (@chain_ofislands)

守り神

X · Jan 10, 2026, 6:19 AM

[tough igloo]

sanji was passed out after fighting someone way weaker & less tankier than big mom (queen) & she also has multiple homies that make it even more tough to fight her

[high wolf]

Sanji can help zoro take her head out.

[ivory sonnet]

Ok Law or Zoro? Strength wise

[high wolf]

Zoro

[distant vine]

Law wins 60-40 at least

[shadow python]

Law is a great support to have. You would much rather have Law on your team than Zoro

[thin quest]

Sanji's haki is way more powerful than Law's and would largely render him protected from Law's fruit

[tough igloo]

i have them relative to each other so either or is fine wit me .. Law fruit gives him a way bigger bag though and more dangerous

[thin quest]

easy W for Wanji

[distant vine]

way more powerful than Law's

Any evidence?

[high wolf]

I think he just speedblitzes him.

[ornate tartan]

Ok another question I have for yall

Luffy using adv conq vs Big Mom (NO G5)

i’ve seen people say base luffy beats her and i’ve seen people say G5 CANT beat her. So what are yall takes on this?

[ivory sonnet]

Df definitely puts Zoro behind Law.

[tough igloo]

what’s sanji best haki feat lol

[distant vine]

Bro Law switched Sanji's body in Punk Hazard

[tough igloo]

he has no haki feat better than Laws lmao .. i’ll give you zoro though

[distant vine]

How can you say he has better Haki lmao

[prisma yacht]

Guys new Hajrudin gifs

[high wolf]

I think Luffy beats her in both G5 and Non-G5 form.

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-katakuri-katakuri-sanji-sanji-dodge-sanji-jelly-bean-sanji-vs-katakuri-gif-24141548

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-hajrudin-hajrudin-one-piece-dressrosa-wait-gif-25228382

[high wolf]

Wanji

[prisma yacht]

He lurking

[thin quest]

soon to be him being the first Straw Hat to hurt a God's Knight when he awakens his Conqueror's Haki in Elbaph

[ornate tartan]

I think what carries the Linlin stocks is her brief fight with Kaido and the sky split😂

[tough igloo]

so something that hasn’t happened and headcanon lmao got you

[high wolf]

Zoro just one shots him I'd argue.

[ornate tartan]

because u have to be relative to sky split right

[distant vine]

Nice dream

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/blackbeard-blackbeard-writing-taking-notes-writing-gif-17583038544116987898

[thin quest]

you obviously haven't been paying close attention to Sanji, oh well

Toei has poisoned so many minds

[distant vine]

People wont listen but Big Mom goes extreme diff vs Kaido

There's no debate

[tough igloo]

we’ve seen Law negate DF with only haki (even BBP said they’d expect no less from someone with a 3 billion bounty ) whenever sanji does something better than that then you can say he has way better haki than Law

[ivory sonnet]

G4 probably can be bit her but I ain't sure about it though cause difference in power lvl of G4 and G5 pretty huge.
Its comparable to Loki before and after eating df and getting Ragnir imo

[high wolf]

The funny thing is, Kaido, a few days later says that he hasn't had this much fun for years while fighting Luffy

[thin quest]

Sanji and Zoro are equals any other argument is not canon

[distant vine]

Zoro's bounty is higher

😼

[shadow python]

Big Mom needed to use coating to handle Wci Luffy. Post udon prison Luffy can now hurt Big Mom easily while her lightning her best attack is ineffective against Luffy.

Big Mom isn't helpless but she is a bad matchup. Her best qualities are durability and power but Kaido was tougher and Luffy can hurt him. I don't see why Luffy would need gear 5 to beat her post acoc

[ornate tartan]

Jinbe has higher bounty then Sanji

[shadow python]

Sanji is more durable than Zoro. Zoro has greater offense than Sanji.

[high wolf]

Good points

[thin quest]

Zoro couldn't even cut Sanji if he tried

[ivory sonnet]

A man who can't use conqueror's haki
Has weak Armament
Obv almost equal to Zoro
Don't use hands
Don't fight women
Is par to King of the Hell I wonder why

[tough igloo]

if Sanji was on the roof would he have been able to do any damage to Kaido with his kicks (not counting Big Mom cause he wouldn’t try to )

[high wolf]

Narrative and Portrayal.

[shadow python]

Not sure about that. Zoro can cut Kaido so I believe he can cut anything. Sanji is durable but not invincible

[distant vine]

Sanji asks Zoro to kill him, even after discovering his dura. So Sanji definetly thinks Zoro can do it, even without seeing all his crazy ACOC + Asura stuff

[ornate tartan]

if Sanji gets acoc what will the argument be

[alpine trench]

this fuckin stupid ass topic again

[thin quest]

Oda has said countless times that Zoro and Sanji are equals

[ornate tartan]

We need Zoro and Sanji to be as strong as possible

[alpine trench]

break week must end soon

[tough igloo]

“Zoro has Enma too “ 🤣🤣

[distant vine]

Zoro wins.

[distant vine]

If only you were here earlier for Shanks vs Mihawk

[thin quest]

Sanji is unlocking Conqueror's in Elbaph and the Zoro agenda people's tears will be delicious

[alpine trench]

i was

[ornate tartan]

if one wing is bigger then the other a bird can’t fly properly

[tough igloo]

realistically if they were ever to fight in the manga i do think Oda would ultimately give the W to zoro but it would come down to the last attack on both sides .. he’s gonna always have them relative to each other

[high wolf]

No.

BUT, I think he would help them Push kaido around, if he could, because he was able to do so with WADATSUMI, who is WAY bigger than kaido.

But, kaido wouldn't let him do that soo..........

[mighty shell]

sanji asked zoro to kill him because he knew it was the gayest thing he could do in that moment

[distant vine]

We'll see

[thin quest]

COOK IT UP

[ivory sonnet]

What can be Sanji's Further power ups

[vale heath]

Consider:
Zoro has made himself The Fighter, using literally all his time over 20 years to grow in strength and skill with nothing but the intent to improve in this one area.
Sanji fights as a tertiary concern because he needs to, focusing first on cooking and second on failing at having a love life, and is fighting with a handicap of no hands.
They are roughly equal despite this.

[alpine trench]

i got out before it could devolve but now i see that it DID devolve

[thin quest]

Zoro spends all his time training and isn't stronger than a chef, woof

[golden valley]

Is Hanon an actual user or a bot account

[high wolf]

The debate?

[mighty shell]

someone bring out the sanji stopping luffy from getting to the fridge image

[ornate tartan]

Zoro and Sanji will be relative just like Rayleigh and Gaban were, the only difference will be Zoro and Sanji will easily surpass those 2

[ivory sonnet]

Ig Oda is saying they are equals on the basis of thier contribution to sh crew

[muted hedge]

one could say it's inevitable

[alpine trench]

no they're the primary fighters of the crew

[shadow python]

Sanji is stronger than Zoro. But Zoro uses a weapon to make them roughly equal

[thin quest]

but real talk, Sanji's flavor of conqueror's will be observation haki flavored

[alpine trench]

observation killing

yeah exactly

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[vale heath]

Can I get my observation haki in chocolate flavor

[muted hedge]

Sanji and Zoro are equals, end of the debate

[alpine trench]

could taste better

[golden valley]

On my soul, Hanon talks like that bot Zolo in #manga

[ornate tartan]

I think Sanji and Zoro will have relative conquerors when both of them master it. Zoro will always have better armament and Sanji will always have better Observation

[vale heath]

Chocolate haki vs vanilla haki vs strawberry haki

[high wolf]

Yeah

But zolo fans can't accept that 😭💔

[alpine trench]

vanilla haki is like base haki

so that doesnt count

[vale heath]

No it’s haki that tastes like vanilla

Duh

[muted hedge]

i think both do their part in not accepting it

[alpine trench]

you're wrong

[shadow python]

Simple and clean is the way haki is meant to be

[alpine trench]

i'm right

[thin quest]

I think Sanji will use his naturally gifted observation haki to perceive people's true emotions and it will allow him to attack a person's soul directly (which is kinda what Conqueror's is to some degree, overwhelming someone else's soul)

[muted hedge]

Sanji vs Zoro fans are like dogs barking at eachother when both has a leash on

[alpine trench]

no way bro

[vale heath]

Do you eat your haki with or without sprinkles

[alpine trench]

without

[potent pier]

So I do think Moria will be relevent?

[ornate tartan]

wait till this flashback is over

discourse gonna be toxic asf😂

[muted hedge]

i really like the idea that Moria will be the poneglyph reader for the Cross Guild

[ornate tartan]

some ppl are gonna crash out

[thin quest]

when Sanji first uses conqueror's haki it's gonna hit like crack

[shadow python]

Buggy doesn't need a poneglyph reader

Mostly because he has zero poneglyphs and no real way to get them

[muted hedge]

well, he will get poneglyphs at some point

[high wolf]

It's gonna be so peak 🥹❤️

[shadow python]

Mihawk wants nothing to do with the other emperors

[potent pier]

Well I was just reminded that in one piece, SHadows have souls

[high wolf]

Trust me, zolo fans are WAY worse than Sanji fans.

[shadow python]

I think it's that shadows are souls

[ornate tartan]

Zoro fans don’t even like Mihawk they only use him to upscale Zoro

If zoro defeats mihawk they gonna immediately turn on him, even if Mihawk is working him in the fight

[shadow python]

Zoro was stronger than Luffy at a few points earlier in the story.

[high wolf]

No

[muted hedge]

they contribute equally as much to the toxic debate, so i wouldn't say it's one or the other

[ornate tartan]

that’s why i need Mihawk to get a proper fight before he fights Zoro

against Fujitora

[potent pier]

So the explanation as to how Blackbeard is able to have two devil fruits is thathis shadow ate one

Look in #manga-serious for the video

[shadow python]

Whiskey they were equal.

Little garden Luffy was better since Zoro lost half his legs.

Alabasta accidentally learned ryuo
Skypiea Zoro learned ranged fighting

Enies Luffy took back his spot and kept it since

[muted hedge]

at this point i think that Blackbeard eating 2 fruits won't have a better explanation then, oh he is special

[hazy turret]

When?

[high wolf]

Zoro DID NOT learn Ryou 💔

He learned breath of all things

[icy wolf]

zoro fans are far worse

its not even close bro

[high wolf]

Exactly

[icy wolf]

zoro fans think he can actually beat big mom

[shadow python]

A win is a win. That's why Kreig beat Luffy

[muted hedge]

Zoro fans bark louder, i agree
but i still think that both sides hold a candle to the flame

[high wolf]

They think he can solo any admiral 😭💔

[shadow python]

Sanji did do pretty well against Kizaru

[ornate tartan]

If Mihawk dominates Zoro for most of their fight Zoro fans gonna say Zoro mid diffed Mihawk

😂😂

[shadow python]

I think Mihawk will get beaten by someone besides Zoro first. Originally thought that would be Shiryu but Shiryus been a disappointment

[vale heath]

I love categories of one

[muted hedge]

Mihawk being beaten by anyone who isn't Zoro, doesn't make sense

it would kill the achievement when Zoro beats him

[ornate tartan]

that’s true

[shadow python]

Their dynamic changed. Mihawk is Zoros teacher now

Student beating teacher is to be expected

[ornate tartan]

but i’m thinking their fight won’t even have stakes

[vale heath]

There are few things I think Oda has genuinely forgotten about and I think one of those things is making the hybridization of fish man/giant as wotan

[ornate tartan]

it will just be a challenge for a title

[muted hedge]

sure, that doesn't change that Mihawk is the pillar to Zoro's dream

Mihawk said himself that he'll stay at the top, waiting for Zoro to topple him

[potent pier]

So yeah I'm a firm believer that Blackbeard's shadow ate the devil fruit and not blackbeard himself

[shadow python]

The world's strongest swordsman is Zoros dream not necessarily Mihawk

If he gets surpassed then Zoro would claim whoever has the title

[icy wolf]

mihawk fulfilled his dream thats why he doesnt do anything

[muted hedge]

it would be very odd if Oda decides to have Mihawk beaten, then just change focus to another swordsman when Mihawk has been built up all these years as the pinnacle of swordsmanship and the last obstacle for Zoro

i'd say that would be bad writing

[shadow python]

I would say clones, amnesia, evil twins, and immortal beings would be bad writing. But Oda pulls it off well

[vale heath]

Amnesia still bad writing

[distant vine]

I'm not a dog. More like a cat, they're way cooler. Sanji fans are the dogs

Oh no it failed the reply

[red lagoon]

Would be terrible

[vale heath]

So you’re saying Sanji has that dog in him?

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-ai-sanji-dog-egghead-gif-9747162624495917649

[red lagoon]

The amnesia shi still ass

And I’m not a fan of the coc being the immortal counter

[shadow python]

Zoros cool. Liking zoro is normal because he's a cool guy. Sanji is often a loser, but we like him anyway.

[red lagoon]

Bruh

[shadow python]

Chopper will find an actual answer

[red lagoon]

Sanji the goat

[olive sigil]

um actually

[high wolf]

Exactly

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/sobamask-pfp-sanji-onepiece-soba-gif-5789939760755124793

[craggy vapor]

his dream is to get surpassed. Ain’t happening if he trains, so he is slacking.

[vale heath]

My dream is to play Minecraft

[grand flower]

It’s not because Oda never uses amnesia to fix problems

Ace dies in part because of Sabo’s amnesia, he wasn’t able to come help

[remote maple]

mihawk's dream is to drink alcohol

[grand flower]

And Big Mom’s amnesia just sets up her bonding with Tama and her broke bois

[remote maple]

when he left his castle all he brought was wine

[high wolf]

Well, it's because he's the WSS. What else would he do?

[craggy vapor]

but Vista already surpassed him to begin with that’s why he won’t fight him.

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/itachi-itachi-uchiha-naruto-anime-gif-gif-6980510505105788152

[remote maple]

the real reason is because Oda didn't feel like drawing them fight

[high wolf]

[craggy vapor]

see how Vista is laughing about Mihawk’s bad swordsmanship.

[ivory sonnet]

Ngl When Vista stopped Mihawk
I was like is this dude wss fr?
(Ik Mihawk wasn't all his potential still it wasn't what i would expect from him)

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[high wolf]

Ik

[craggy vapor]

a person who fights with just one huge sword can never be the WSS

[icy wolf]

in their very very short scuffle mihawk was just thinking about luffy bro

he wasnt even thinking about the fight at all

[high wolf]

Exactly

He dropped one of the hardest quotes in one piece there

[remote maple]

guts from berserk is calling

[ivory sonnet]

Which one?

[high wolf]

So, Zoro > Shanks because he uses 3 swords?

[ivory sonnet]

Ig Hatchan should be the wss or that drunk dude at fishman island

[craggy vapor]

look how he is sweating

[ornate tartan]

that’s edited😂

[high wolf]

This isn't funny 💔