also-manga

[sage temple]

I'm def adamant

[buoyant comet]

I'm not gonna laugh at a man's dream, one piece taught me better

[golden valley]

They were under the idea Loki would eat the fruit

[sage temple]

Not Maji

[vapid flower]

Loki bottom 50 in cooking

[shadow python]

Neither of them are fruit eaters they could have eaten it too

[sage temple]

You're just projecting now lmao

[dapper tree]

they respect the giant culture

so they wouldn't take the fruit

[golden valley]

thats not their job

[dapper tree]

That was a fruit for the giants of elbaf

[golden valley]

Nor do they wanna eat that one

[sage temple]

Nobody says a thing about this adamance though

Only pay attention to when I make a valid claim and call it bait and false confidence

[dapper tree]

there is like 4 people there

[sage temple]

Double standards at it's finest dawg

[buoyant comet]

Wait so like if you need acoc to negate regeneration, and Loki needed a df to fight Harald, does that mean that devil fruits can channel a user with haki?

[vapid flower]

because shanks beating Loki is based on panels

[sage temple]

Yeah

[dapper tree]

shanks did indeed beat loki

that happened

[sage temple]

So how is it bad about me being adamant but fine when literally everyone else is saying it like a fact

[dapper tree]

like no one can say this didn't happen

[vapid flower]

we don’t have any basis to assume something else occurred or something underhanded happened

[distant vine]

It's gonna be a heavy day when that Shanks vs Loki chapter drops

[vapid flower]

is it possible Loki fell asleep and shanks snuck by and chained him in seastone? Sure

[distant vine]

Someone's going down 😭

[vapid flower]

But that’s not the panels

[sage temple]

We do? Nobody says it is a 1v1 fight or anything

[shadow python]

We know Loki was captured we don't know if they fought. We know Loki called Shanks a coward. We don't know why he says as such

[vapid flower]

that’s not a basis

[sage temple]

The panels don't say that didn't happen

[sage temple]

What basis says Shanks beat Loki in a fair fight

Nothing

[buoyant comet]

Because they have narrative points and evidence to back their claims. You're just saying "erm well it's possible that Loki slipped and Shanks used that opportunity to poison him so Loki didn't really go all out"

[sage temple]

That's just your assumption

[vapid flower]

They also don’t say that Loki is a figment of our imagination and is made of bubbles

[dapper tree]

you are assuming it's literally anything but that

just to defend loki

[vapid flower]

So because we don’t have any basis to assume otherwise it must be true

[sage temple]

I'm not saying it's anything but that

I'm saying it could be that but it could also equally be something else

[dapper tree]

You are tho

[sage temple]

You bloke read what I'm typing

[dapper tree]

You won't even think that it's possible

[sage temple]

Yeah just ignore me saying it's possible

Alr

[shadow python]

There's no need to make assumptions. We have feats. Opinions without feet have nothing to stand on

[buoyant comet]

Either the whole server bows down to Socrates or we flame Socrates 😭

[vapid flower]

holy flaw

[sage temple]

I don't have any basis to assume Loki fighting Shanks in a fair fight and losing must be true

[vapid flower]

jfc

[distant vine]

As the biggest Shanks fan here I deserve dibs on dissing Socrates if I win

[stuck pagoda]

Did someone say feet 👏🏽🫦

[dapper tree]

not every scenario is equally possible, that's just not how that works

[honest garden]

To be fair, killing Harald is a better feat than Shanks can claim

[sage temple]

Oh but you didn't say shit when Loki eating or not eating the fruit was 50/50

[golden valley]

I do think Shanks vs Loki is contextual

[sage temple]

I think Shanks vs Loki might not have even happened

[dapper tree]

what?

what about the fruit

[honest garden]

I don't think there's much wrong with Loki and Shanks going extreme diff, Socrates

[distant vine]

Shanks killed Kaido and restarted his heart with Wifi Haki though?

[golden valley]

But not because Shanks was weaker

[buoyant comet]

Shanks did that? 😭

[golden valley]

Shanks and Loki having a bloodlusted fight doesn’t make sense to me given both characters

[vapid flower]

no where in the manga did it say that it didn’t happen sooo

[golden valley]

HOWEVER

Loki clearly didn’t wanna be chained

[dapper tree]

TRUEEEE

[golden valley]

So he’d have to have tried

[distant vine]

Yeah it was a cover story around Post-Marineford

[buoyant comet]

Oh wow my goat keeps getting Ws

[hot cairn]

I somewhat agree with the possibility that Shanks vs Loki wasnt a 1 v 1. Or at least it ended by being interrupted or something. But only because I know Oda and he always likes to skip the winner of a fight. I don’t even think we’ll see the fight at all, I’ll be surprised. Oda doesnt do full fights in a flashback

[golden valley]

Also, I think Loki calls Shanks a chicken/coward because he refused to seek revenge

[sage temple]

Loki eating the fruit or it being the Nika fruit

[golden valley]

For harald

[distant vine]

I'm sorry, I hate spreading misinformation. No, that didnt happen

[maiden smelt]

Shanks gave kaido whatever shanks gave wb
And they became friends

[sage temple]

Yeah I don't either

[strong wadi]

@sage temple you have huffed so much copium you even put out a theory that shanks got poison from magellan to take down Loki because "they are both associated with the WG"

At some point, you gotta realize that you cant even believe the shit you're typing

[sage temple]

I'm saying you can't assume anything specific happened and try to scale Shanks > Loki based off of that

[dapper tree]

well, we know for a fact he did eat the fruit and based on what we know leading up to the flashback it wasn't nika

No one would think the fruit was nika

[sage temple]

I'm giving you a valid scenario as to how that could happen

[strong wadi]

"valid"

[vapid flower]

the manga never said it wasn’t nika though pasta cmon now keep up

[golden valley]

I just don’t think Shanks vs Loki was a truly death battle type fight imo, i think both never went through with killing each other but Shanks ultimately got the upperhand

[dapper tree]

thatn insane, no way is that anywhere near valid

[maiden smelt]

It’s a flashback fight so 3 pages at most

[fallen meteor]

Here's how Loki can still have eaten the cloud logia

[strong wadi]

The entire red haired pirates crew taking down Loki instead of a 1v1 with Shanks?

Yeah, that's an actual valid scenario.

[maiden smelt]

Might be bad for loki

[buoyant comet]

I'm ngl imma let Socrates enjoy claiming Loki is stronger than Shanks, because by the time elbaf ends Loki won't even be stronger than Luffy

[vapid flower]

if it even gets covered in the manga it’s a 3 page fight with shanks aura farming for 2 of it

[strong wadi]

Idk why you reposting that, it's gonna make everoyne think you're just a fool

[dapper tree]

bro that is crazy talk, like no way

[sage temple]

You can stop talking to me then

[golden valley]

Shanks poisoning is literally out of character

For someone like loki

[maiden smelt]

How much poison would u need to effect loki

[golden valley]

This is Harald’s child we’re talking about

[buoyant comet]

Well I'm not even talking to u rn why are u getting so salty 😭

[shadow python]

How strong do we think Shanks is? If he's equal with Mihawk do we think that Mihawk is above Roger or Rocks or Old Whitebeard? Mihawk was stalled out by Jozu and Vista two of Whitebeards commanders probably around Izos level

[maiden smelt]

He’s huge

[dapper tree]

100 gallons

[sage temple]

Damn good point I just don't like how you said that about me

[hot cairn]

a lot of people did

[golden valley]

And Shanks still doesn’t fight like pure scum.

[dapper tree]

SO, like he doesn't say We don't play by the rules (now eat this poisoned bread)

[vital heart]

Shanks' best feat was stopping an Akainu attack casually. This is because Akainu is the strongest OP character of all time.

[sage temple]

Yeah because he was never put in a position to do that

[golden valley]

As seen with Barto, he was literally gonna give Kidd a good fight too

[shadow python]

We don't need to be necessarily even with a character to clash with them. Perhaps the idea that Harald and Rocks were even was faulty to begin with

[spice cairn]

I thought the fruit was Gum Gum

[strong wadi]

2nd strongest person alive atm, with mihawk right behind him, until shown otherwise.

I say this as a Shanks hater 😔

[dapper tree]

But how we knew luffy has had the nika fruit for like 6 years

[sage temple]

But if Loki is that strong, Shanks winning would be a result of that underhanded method

[vapid flower]

it would be poisoned sake like how shanks fed whitebeard poisoned sake before marineford

[fallen meteor]

I think they hugged it out

[vapid flower]

and hit him with cancer haki

[sage temple]

Yep

[maiden smelt]

Does shanks cover his sword in poison

[golden valley]

Now ur going a step too far to imply it was a necessity.

[fallen meteor]

Loki cried in Shanks' arms and let himself get captured

[dapper tree]

shnaks could have just gotten that styrong, why is that crazy

[maiden smelt]

Is he a poison man not a swordsman

[buoyant comet]

Didn't mean to offend you just wanted to assert how confident I am with my opinion. I'll just patiently wait for us to get more content

[hot cairn]

I have no idea, I didn’t think it was the Nika fruit but Ik people did

[sage temple]

Ok

[maiden smelt]

Putting Magellan out of business 😞

[dapper tree]

anyone who thought lki would eat the nika fruit when luffy already had it is crazy and can't read

[strong wadi]

Shanks' growth in 8 years
Luffy's growth in 2 years

[sage temple]

I'm not saying that's crazy

Omg

[golden valley]

Shanks not playing by rules = likely jumping Loki.

Not poisoning him

[dapper tree]

you are saying crazier stuff

[vapid flower]

what are the odds of Loki dying this arc?

[fallen meteor]

terrifying thought:
oda leaves shanks vs loki to an near end of Elbaf flashback in like 50 ch ahead

[sage temple]

I mean ok we'll see

[shadow python]

Shanks being strong means Mihawk by extension should be just as strong. And Mihawk doesn't seem nearly as impressive as squirrel

[maiden smelt]

The monkey on shanks crew vs the squirrel 🔥

[sage temple]

0-1

[strong wadi]

0

[golden valley]

0

[buoyant comet]

Very low I'd say 1:8

[sage temple]

Oh wait he needs to meet Mosa

[dapper tree]

0 cause he's joining the crew

[sage temple]

0

[strong wadi]

Unless Oda really wants to do a plotline where Loki dies and Hajrudin gets his fruit

[maiden smelt]

1%

[vapid flower]

I’m sitting at a soft 30%

[strong wadi]

but otherwise, 0

[vapid flower]

but I love death

[distant vine]

D-Did he really say Shanks got poison from Magellan?

[dapper tree]

would be hilarious

[dapper tree]

yes

[sage temple]

Yeah that's prolly more logical

[dapper tree]

he said it was very possible

[buoyant comet]

He did??? 😭

Did I miss that

[hot cairn]

no no wait, the thing they thought was that the Elbaph fruit was the Nika fruit and the WG stole it and then Shanks did. They believed Loki didnt have a fruit at all.

[dapper tree]

it's such terrible logic

[maiden smelt]

Wasn’t it said kidd lost an arm to shanks but it was actually Ben Beckmann

[vapid flower]

yes

[distant vine]

I shouldn't laugh. My characters win so much I never have to engage in this kinda stuff

[dapper tree]

oh that's still so weird

[maiden smelt]

What if lucky roo beat loki

[buoyant comet]

Grown ass Yonko asking a warden for some poison 😭

[sage temple]

What if my mom had wheels for legs

[strong wadi]

Loki is needed for whatever Xebec was hoping Harald could do for him, so he can't die unless he has a replacement (Hajrudin), but I would say Loki will just keep this role. He also has to give Shamrock his comeuppance

[vapid flower]

lucky roo is top 3 in verse tbh

[fallen meteor]

nightmare scenario if its a ben beckmann feat

[shadow python]

Magellan took on 3 yonkou and beat all of them but Buggy

[buoyant comet]

Lend me some poison Magellan. This is base Loki I'm up against

[tranquil blade]

Magellan would win tho yeah

[strong wadi]

No it was never directly said to be shanks

[fallen meteor]

what if it was a 2v2 loki and ragnir vs bonk punch and monster

[hot cairn]

that’s so funny

[shadow python]

Shanks was just the only known swordsman in the red hair pirates and we assumed Kidd lost his arm by it getting cut off

[hot cairn]

it is, I tried to tell people but they didn’t listen smh

[shadow python]

But apparently Beckman sliced it with his gun

[buoyant comet]

My goats wins are always twisted into losses

[dapper tree]

"Dear Mr. Magellan.
I would like to request a meeting with you. I have to go fight this ancient giant. Can I borrow 40 barrels of poison so I can pour it in his mouth while he sleeps. I need to win.
From your pal Shanks"

[shadow python]

Doing everything but shooting

[sage temple]

What if Loki one shots Shanks but Shanks gets saved by Whitebeard

[golden valley]

None of this matters, Loki will surpass Shanks EoS

[fallen meteor]

would be hype

but i kinda want to see monster feats

[sage temple]

This is how I think it would happen but in person

[vapid flower]

I want chopper to talk to ragnir

[strong wadi]

I mean, we know it's possible since Izou has slicing bullets technique, but probably just beat kid and then grabbed a sword and cut it off

[dapper tree]

A person does not think this

[maiden smelt]

I want chopper to do things again

[honest garden]

As an avid Kid fan, I still like the idea that Beckman just shot 2397 bullets into Kid's arm until it become red mincemeat

[maiden smelt]

And most of the straw hats

[sage temple]

You're right I am a robot

[dapper tree]

and loki glaze is hardcoded I see

[shadow python]

Chopper stalled Queen which is more impressive than anything Jinbabe has done

[strong wadi]

punched bm off the sunny, next

[vapid flower]

jinbae is still thinking!!!!!

[dapper tree]

to be fair queen was just having fun

[sage temple]

You have can read I see

[hot cairn]

why 2397 bullets specifically that’s a very specific count

[golden valley]

Jinbei would actually force queen to try

[vapid flower]

https://tenor.com/view/jinbe-emote-thinking-gif-15529136

[golden valley]

Queen was going easy on the raccoon mascot

[dapper tree]

that doesn't even make sense

[golden valley]

No choppeer glaze in this chat

[maiden smelt]

EoS Jimbe vs loki

Who wins

[golden valley]

Hes ass

[honest garden]

Just happened to be the position of my hands

[thick mango]

if it does turn out shanks just beat loki in a simple honest 1v1 fight is that gonna be a disappointment?

[sage temple]

I dunno what am I supposed to say

[strong wadi]

Loki probably

[dapper tree]

chopper tanked BM and Saturn

[vapid flower]

does jinbe have poison?

[buoyant comet]

Dear Saint Shanks

I hope this message finds you well. Regarding your request I have already put in an order to ship you 50 barrels of Poison. It shall arrive to you at your sacred palace on Mary Geoise. I hope you enjoy this fine poison for I have personally produced it using my bodily fluids to ensure its lethality and concentration.

Yours truly, Magellan.

[shadow python]

King nearly killed Big Mom knocking her crew off into the ocean. She is really vulnerable by the sea. Should probably stop fighting near the water

[sage temple]

Yes

[vapid flower]

Please answer

[dapper tree]

You find a way to say just about anything from what i can tell so this checks out

[golden valley]

Weakened bm
Jobber saturn

Doesn’t count

[maiden smelt]

EoS jimbe could probably throw around tsunamis like wb

[thick mango]

theres no version of it thatd be fine? what if he puts up a really good fight

[dapper tree]

I tried Ok

lmao

[maiden smelt]

And do vibration attacks like wb

[sage temple]

You find a way to say just about nothing from what I can tell so this checks out

OOOOOOOOOOOO

[strong wadi]

Dear Saint Shanks,

I know you are no longer affiliated with the World Government after betraying them to steal from a World Government vessel, but I hope through our friendship, you will accept these barrels and not tell the Gorosei

[dapper tree]

this is something meeks does, and that's not a good thing

[buoyant comet]

What a touching friendship

[maiden smelt]

Why are u reacting to urself

[thick mango]

how can you win if shanks can actually see like 30 seconds into the future that seems like an insurmountable power. im sure bb will figure it out tho

[dapper tree]

Shanks and Magellan buddy cop movie about them taking down Loki

[hot cairn]

I like how everyone just ignored Meek saying that Akainu is the strongest OP character alive earlier

[sage temple]

[dapper tree]

as they should

[strong wadi]

eh, future sight is worthless after 0.1 seconds in a 1v1 fight

[hazy echo]

Cause Akainu is him

[vapid flower]

!meek

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1446300848891101275/hey_guys.mp4?ex=6934cda1&is=69337c21&hm=9e287afdfe9fa3539ad425d03605119e92c595cbebd4039a9bbce99fb4269eef&

[hazy echo]

[golden valley]

I was gonna shit on Chopper and talk about how Usopp shouldn’t be the one getting disrespected but rather the raccoon, but I forgot Chopper saved Gaban, so hes kinda tuff

[spice cairn]

Meek has foresight

[vapid flower]

I need Socrates and meek to argue

[spice cairn]

Hes saying this out of caution for the future

[sage temple]

If Loki actually does beat Shanks in a fair fight to the point Shanks has to cheat

[spice cairn]

Nah I need Hathor to stop having a life and argue with Socrates

[sage temple]

I will become owner of this server and ban everyone

[dapper tree]

no one could handle that insanity

[hot cairn]

Socrates dislikes Meek

[strong wadi]

Need Kid to return and get some Kid vs Loki theories cooked up, then you can unban ishy

[vapid flower]

I scale Socrates at high yc1 meek at vice admiral level but like a good one

[thick mango]

it seems like no amount of 'fairness' is gonna be enough

[golden valley]

This is disrespectful on so many levels

[hot cairn]

he says Meek can get away with anything cause the staff loves him

(It’s true)

[vapid flower]

we love him?

oh dear

[buoyant comet]

Under who's authority 😂

[sage temple]

True they do absolutely nothing about anything

[golden valley]

Pretty sure theyre bros

[vapid flower]

time for the 31st meek ban discussion

[spice cairn]

Bros cant fight now?

[buoyant comet]

Listen if we Shanks ends up beating Loki in a fair 1 v 1 then I say we mute Socrates for a week

[spice cairn]

What are you a teletubby?

[maiden smelt]

Loki is the strongest character

[dapper tree]

I feel like you should get banned if shanks just wins regualr then if that's the case but not really fair results

[sage temple]

And then they go to #mod-chat to complain about how I'm revealing how they fail to do anything about what Meek does

[distant vine]

Some may say its too easy to be a Zoro, Law, Shanks and Franky fan, and I may have to agree

[hot cairn]

none of you use #manga-serious but I would pay to see Socrates vs Shifty

[spice cairn]

Being a Franky fan is easy?

[strong wadi]

Staff can sadly ban people they love 😭

[hot cairn]

that dude is dense

[shadow python]

At the time of this flashback Loki might be the strongest in the world

[distant vine]

Relatively yeah

[buoyant comet]

Nah he should get muted not banned, we wanna make fun of him not banish him

[golden valley]

Can yiu explain who shifty is

[dapper tree]

seen it happen but I don't remember who

[spice cairn]

I mean I guess you have a point

[dapper tree]

perma

[vapid flower]

when we banned pasta

[hot cairn]

what exactly does meek do tho

[spice cairn]

I tend to forget Franky exists unironically

[dapper tree]

HUH

[golden valley]

Dragon exists

[vapid flower]

oh whoops

[honest garden]

There are some people I wish we banned years ago

[sage temple]

I think you should get banned if Shanks just doesn't win regularly then

[spice cairn]

I went from really liking him to sort of being less and less interested

[hot cairn]

one here is absolutely not like the rest

[stuck pagoda]

italian intensifies

[dapper tree]

Not how that works. You the one making the bet

[sage temple]

Well I don't want them to go to #mod-chat to complain about how I'm revealing how they fail to do anything about what Meek does so I'll not say

[vapid flower]

I think it’s entirely possible that shanks maybe had help, I just don’t have any evidence for that, so I don’t assume that

[hot cairn]

Shifty is an immovable object

[sage temple]

You brought this up

What

[buoyant comet]

You need collateral to make a bet if you don't want to put yourself in the line then bet on me

[spice cairn]

We are still on Shanks and Loki

[hot cairn]

that dude is always arguing with somebody in #manga-serious

[vapid flower]

can we move to Mihawk vs Loki

[golden valley]

Why have ppl get banned? The bet should be “If Stabs doesnt beat Loki fairly in a 1v1, you must become a loki glazer”

[dapper tree]

If we could drag anyone into bets that would be peak

[buoyant comet]

I'll leave gracefully if shanks cheats

[vapid flower]

Is the hammer a sword?!?!?

[hot cairn]

I haven’t seen him lately tho

[spice cairn]

Can we move to Shiryu vs Oden

[sage temple]

You don't have any evidence for Shanks not having help but that never stopped you from assuming now has it

[spice cairn]

At least we know who would win

[vapid flower]

[stuck pagoda]

Mihawk said “ight lemme use 0.001% of power to help this bum shanks achieve yonko status” then he releases a casual sword slash from across the world that knocks Loki unconscious and shanks got to take credit for it

[golden valley]

@sage temple have more people join the agenda, not shave off members

[hot cairn]

tell me who

[shadow python]

Mihawks best feat is beating east blue Zoro

[fallen meteor]

Ngl either result will be funny

[spice cairn]

Brother

[hot cairn]

LOL pasta

[dapper tree]

OHHH memeories

[hot cairn]

I saw that

[shadow python]

He's only relevant because of his connection to Shanks

[stuck pagoda]

No birthday presents for you

[hot cairn]

I mean Adam

[dapper tree]

that was adam

[fallen meteor]

Imagine he actually poisons him

[dapper tree]

smh myu head

[vapid flower]

heheh

[stuck pagoda]

No Christmas either

[golden valley]

Fighting cista actually

[dapper tree]

bruh

[spice cairn]

With poison Ivy?

[sage temple]

They should get banned I rather they leave than they join the train unworthily-ly

[honest garden]

I've since moved on from the drama

[spice cairn]

Mushy doesnt dabble in baby drama

[dapper tree]

lmao

[hazy echo]

I got banned before from a bet I think

[golden valley]

But it might as well be torture

[dapper tree]

memories

[golden valley]

Forced to glaze

[sage temple]

True

Ok

[vapid flower]

I would rather demod than ban shreeder

[hot cairn]

you know who I would to see argue?

adood vs Socrates

because Socrates probably thinks Loki is stronger than Mihawk

@warm fossil

[stuck pagoda]

HE THINKS WHAT

[hot cairn]

fight him

[sage temple]

I'll say anyone who's wrong abt it should agree with me unwaveringly, immediately, no matter what, for an entire 3 months

[stuck pagoda]

blasphemy

[spice cairn]

Might have to side with Socrates on this one...

[vapid flower]

if the hammer gets any shark edges it’s a sword and Mihawk scales above him immediately

[golden valley]

see, thats torture but works as punishment

[stuck pagoda]

Fax

[fallen meteor]

Shark edges

[sage temple]

True

[sage temple]

Shark edges

[stuck pagoda]

Mihawk is top 2 behind Imu, Loki can have number 3 for all I care

[sage temple]

Mihawk the worlds strongest Sharkswordsman

[tranquil blade]

I've never spoken to him but I think he blocked me unless he left the server

[hot cairn]

Socrates is Loki stronger than Mihawk

[spice cairn]

Mihawk needs to actually beat Shiryu first

[buoyant comet]

@sage temple If shanks beats Loki using the following methods (poisoning, teaming up with others, using a hostage, and other underhanded methods), I get a 3 day mute and become a Loki glazer. However if it's proven that Shanks beat Loki in a fair fight and overpowered him, then you get a 3 day mute and become shanks and Luffy glazer. Also you have to slander Loki for 1 whole day. What do you say do we have a deal?

[stuck pagoda]

Mihawk pubic hair solos the Blackbeard pirates

[spice cairn]

Hes never touching anything of the likes of the actual endgame

[vapid flower]

wait don’t talk let him read and agree

[dapper tree]

That's a great deal if I have ever seen one

[spice cairn]

Poisoning is so corny man

[fallen meteor]

@sage temple how many bets in are you about this Loki vs Shanks thing? 3?

[hot cairn]

damn it looks like he left, I wanted to see him be wrong about so many future stuff LOL

[dapper tree]

take the deal

[spice cairn]

Do you genuinely believe Shanks is fucking ODing Loki with large amounts of benadryl

Cmon

[dapper tree]

come on, it's a good deal, it's clear

[spice cairn]

This is the weakest argument in favor of Shanks actually touching Loki

[dapper tree]

safe results

for either party

[maiden smelt]

Oda will always make shanks look good don’t take the bet 💔

[dapper tree]

peak entertainment

[buoyant comet]

https://tenor.com/view/gendo-stare-neon-genesis-evangelion-gendo-gif-9367805630101002790

[fallen meteor]

Oh nvm the other bet is about usopp using ragnir

[sage temple]

If shanks beats Loki using the following methods (poisoning, teaming up with others, using a hostage, and other underhanded methods), you get a 3 day mute and become a Loki glazer for 2 weeks. Also you have to glaze Loki for 1 whole day. However if it's proven that Shanks beat Loki in a fair fight and overpowered him, then I get a 3 day mute and become shanks and Luffy glazer for 2 weeks. Also I have to slander Loki for 1 whole day.

[dapper tree]

what did he change

[spice cairn]

This is good copypasta material

[buoyant comet]

Let's increase becoming Luffy/shanks/Loki fans to 2 weeks. And then I'll agree

[dapper tree]

did he

[sage temple]

Ok 2 weeks

[stuck pagoda]

Correction: Milk of magnesia , he gave Loki the runs and Loki lost by default because of the excessive diarrhea

[dapper tree]

or just missing the name

[buoyant comet]

🤝

[formal wagon]

😭 milk

[dapper tree]

mods

[spice cairn]

You had to specify Magnesia Milk

[vapid flower]

I’ll screenshot and keep in the records of sumo

[formal wagon]

maybe milk is the key to chekhov's second giant sword

[dapper tree]

can we get this recorded

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-in-wind-horse-sad-horse-yeat-melancholy-gif-26693609

[buoyant comet]

https://tenor.com/view/ftbllaaron-gif-20494800

[shadow python]

Let's go over this. Harald was even with Rocks. Harald got stronger from his pact with Imu and Loki killed an immortal Harald.

Loki can easily be argued to be above Rocks.

Mihawk...was stalled by Vista and blocked by Jozu two of Whitebeards commanders. If we ignore Shanks then Mihawk would be solidly in yonkou commander level. Rocks was Prime Whitebeards captain, old Whitebeard is Vistas captain.

I don't think we appreciate how much heavy lifting Shanks does for Mihawks hype

[formal wagon]

wtf is milk of magnesia

[stuck pagoda]

That’s the key part

[stuck pagoda]

Laxative basically

[spice cairn]

It makes you bathroom

[formal wagon]

oh

[hot cairn]

is this your new bit?

[formal wagon]

why are we talking about poop milk

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/daniel-craig-james-bond-foksrun-gif-18802120

[tranquil blade]

He put magnesia in his milk

[buoyant comet]

We got you as our witness

[spice cairn]

Loki is drinking poop milk

[dapper tree]

well, that was an exciting bet that we will see the result of in 4 years

[fallen meteor]

Also known as pilk

[dapper tree]

time to go to bed

[formal wagon]

NO THATS PEPSI MILK

[tranquil blade]

Is Loki a regular milk or chocolate milk type of guy

[spice cairn]

Socrates said if Loki drank Poop Milk, hes going to become a Luffy fan

[sage temple]

Can't wait to see all the bets interlap

[spice cairn]

Chocolate milk

100%

[tranquil blade]

pilk might actually be morally wrong

[hot cairn]

I’m so hungry man

[stuck pagoda]

Pepsi man mentioned
👀
🫦

[sage temple]

I wonder how future Socrates will do

[formal wagon]

HOW SHOULD I KNOW

[vapid flower]

I’ve recorded it

[spice cairn]

Eat my fist buddy

[formal wagon]

[shadow python]

Speaking of poop do you think Loki held it in for 6 years?

[formal wagon]

[buoyant comet]

Lit

[fallen meteor]

He has his goons

[stuck pagoda]

Haki coated bowels

[spice cairn]

They took him to the bathroom

[dapper tree]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-facilier-death-dragging-gif-19270749

[tranquil blade]

Chekov's 2nd giant sword... I expected better..

[formal wagon]

Chekhov's*

[buoyant comet]

Wait that's actually a good question

[vapid flower]

Loki is top 5 in verse he can aim for the ocean and make it

[formal wagon]

loki is a giant

[spice cairn]

Do you think Loki poops?

[formal wagon]

no

its uncofirmed whether or not giants poop

so far we only know if fishmen do or something

[buoyant comet]

Lokis poop might actually be bigger than the island eaters poop. Meaning that his poop might be island size

[vapid flower]

maybe that’s why they’re so big

Full of shit

[fallen meteor]

Do you remember the sleeping gas around Elbaf?

[spice cairn]

What if them being so big it takes thousands of years to poop

[stuck pagoda]

Are lokis turds pink

[buoyant comet]

What if they burn their poo

[spice cairn]

I mean Loki is a big dude afterall

[formal wagon]

giants are 80% poop

[buoyant comet]

Why are we talking about poo lowkey

[fallen meteor]

High grade humor rn

[buoyant comet]

I need to be using my time productivly bye bye guys

[golden valley]

Loki doesn’t take shits

Simple

[formal wagon]

any deviation from dung disscussion is the abnormality

[stuck pagoda]

Low??

[golden valley]

His fruit lets him not take shits

[stuck pagoda]

The crazy thing is Oda would actually answer these questions

He thinks of everything

[vapid flower]

he woud actually prefer answering questions about poop

[stuck pagoda]

If brook poops and he’s a fucking skeleton what. Makes you think Loki not taking massive asteroid sized shits

[shadow python]

I want to know how Brook poops

[stuck pagoda]

yohohoho

[glacial bear]

Does Imu even poop

[vapid flower]

oda would genuinely answer that question

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-imu-imu-one-piece-world-government-crown-gif-11226116781559785824

[stuck pagoda]

Imu robe is a porta potty

[glacial bear]

Imu after eating Taco Bell

[shadow python]

He definitely doesn't need to do it. He was alone on his ship for 50 years with no food. And when we see him eat it just falls through. Was he lying to us? I doubt it but how does it even work

[glacial bear]

LMFAO

[stuck pagoda]

Technically speaking

If u eat food and it comes out another end u pooped

So he really didn’t lie

[glacial bear]

Honestly Blackbeard wouldn’t even need to do anything

He can offscreen his poop

[stuck pagoda]

I’m pretty sure dragon canonically uses wind to wipe instead of toilet paper

[stuck pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[spice cairn]

Does Oda ever think about these things

[glacial bear]

Perhaps

[strong wadi]

Thankfully Loki has/d servants that could take care of his needs

[glacial bear]

[formal wagon]

chekhov's second giant sword

[glacial bear]

Not gonna lie. Toilets in one piece are the most tragic characters

[olive sigil]

Can you tell me what ends in January?

[glacial bear]

The stories they will tell will hit different

[grave atlas]

Magellan's bathroom is a death trap

[formal wagon]

january

[olive sigil]

The Sunny’s toilet must be disgusting

Luffy is a carnivorous freak

Does chopper go like a human or a reindeer?

[glacial bear]

Conqueror’s Haki flush

The moment we saw Mihawk’s restroom being nothing but just a toilet in the dark. I was already scared. Zoro was right Mihawk is not human!

[olive sigil]

When they get off the sunny, who do you think carries the bags for chopper’s bathroom moments

[stuck pagoda]

One piece verse would really be musty af, people think they wanna live in it so bad but everyone smelling like 3 month pulled pork dipped in septic fluid

[olive sigil]

Sanji must be a mess

Bro smells like fish and cigarettes

[glacial bear]

As much as Elbaph is cool. I forgot the Odor would be like ten times worse

[stuck pagoda]

Fax

[olive sigil]

Giants poop every 3 weeks but the poops are 10 times smellier

[glacial bear]

[olive sigil]

And 50 times bigger

[stuck pagoda]

Who yall think smells the worst in one piece

My guess would be Luffy Zoro Blackbeard

[olive sigil]

Sanji

[stuck pagoda]

Over the others ??

[olive sigil]

Yeah

[stuck pagoda]

ah

[olive sigil]

Cigarettes fish blood and some white stuff

[stuck pagoda]

Big mom is tricky cuz she either is super clean or super stinky I could see either being the case

Kaido musty fs

[vapid flower]

wonder if ragnir brought him empty buckets

[spice cairn]

Big Mom is definitely clean

[vapid flower]

there is no physical way that woman can fold her body in such a way that would allow her to wipe.

[prisma idol]

All of her toiletries are homies

She doesn't have to bend at all

[vapid flower]

"what is my purpose"

[stuck pagoda]

Ik some down bad ppl that wouldn’t mind

[spice cairn]

Her homies clean her

[olive sigil]

There’s places in big mom’s body that even the most courageous homies can’t clean. Surely there’s a 40 years old cake stuck between her back boobs

[stuck pagoda]

Buggy can lowkey throw his entire body in the washing machine while his head waits outside

[grizzled pasture]

What-

[still mason]

The worst fate of any OP character I've ever had to consider

Including any flashbacks

[dark nymph]

Water homie

[stuck pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/big-mom-one-piece-brook-sleeping-prometheus-gif-19994778

What size is that bed G

[austere pagoda]

G?

https://tenor.com/view/lao-g-one-piece-theres-ag-gif-22947313

[still mason]

Stadium size

Brook for comparison

[warm fossil]

back when big mom had aura...

[thick mango]

Who would you say has the most aura

[olive sigil]

Drug Peclo

[still mason]

Akainu-sama

[indigo yacht]

Unironically Mihawk

https://tenor.com/view/mihawk-raft-stare-gif-26686878

Mihawk had to find some copper wicks to light that green fire

[muted hedge]

i still don't know why he was in that movie in the first place

[indigo yacht]

To aura farm

[muted hedge]

i thought he'd do something more than just slice a meteor, lol

like maybe we'd see him do something in the end or something, but nope

though i guess Toei just wanted to cram him in there

[still mason]

It was just to remind us that the distance between him and Zoro is still huge

[stuck pagoda]

Blud

He came and flex then left

Most Mihawk thing imaginable, W writing

It showed that Mihawk is light years ahead of fuji and Zoro still

Yes it’s a non canon movie but Oda makes sure the scaling fits the storyline

[muted hedge]

does he?

[stuck pagoda]

Ye

Like with film red

[muted hedge]

i mean, i am not doubting that Mihawk is above everyone but does he really make sure that the scaling fits?

[stuck pagoda]

Character to character scaling at least

Like Luffy might fuck around and have a universal feat , but he’s still gonna be portrayed as lower than Imu

[azure wasp]

Shiki

[azure wasp]

Nah

[high wolf]

Include Shanks as well 😹

[stuck pagoda]

Fasho

[stuck pagoda]

Luffy popped a perc in that movie so it don’t count

[high wolf]

Well, Shiki might be the "Ussop" of rock's Crew 😹

[stuck pagoda]

Film red showed us Luffy and shanks are roughly equals , now ofc shanks experience and stamina would give him the win more often then not but they on the same tier now

[azure wasp]

Ussop fans wishes

Or should i say people that pretend to be Ussop fans

Cause no one should be a ussop fan

[high wolf]

You think Ussop doesn't have fans? 😭

[stuck pagoda]

I’m a ussop fan kinda I love his character , hate his stagnation but that’s not his fault

[azure wasp]

Everyone that say they are a Ussop fan is lying, trust

[high wolf]

Just wait, Oda is cooking some Ussop gas in elbaph

[formal wagon]

i'm a chekov's second giant sword fan. i kind of love how oda introduced two giant swords and most likely won't do anything with either of them

[stuck pagoda]

Very specific fandom

Why not the first giant sword

[azure wasp]

He's going to be a glorified motivation speaker

[iron oriole]

Based Oda

[stuck pagoda]

Belo Betty upscale

[formal wagon]

speaking of swords that giants have (still a giant sword but not as giant as the chekhov's giant swords) What grade do you think the sword in jarul's head is?? we know its a famous blade

[azure wasp]

[azure wasp]

Ofcourse

[high wolf]

That's just where you're wrong.

Ussop will prolly go from the weakest to jimbei level by the end of elbaph, maybe even more.

[formal wagon]

this is a giant sword oda will do something with

[high wolf]

Lemme COPE

[stuck pagoda]

If I have no other reason to like ussop I can at least say it’s because he’s one of if not the only major black character in the series that I know of

[high wolf]

I think it's the highest grade.

Like Mihawk's Yoru, Shanks's Gryphon etc.

[formal wagon]

being a red herring chekhov's giant sword is honesty a huge feat. It means they're able to escape the confines of storytelling which puts them above plot armor characters like l*ffy

[iron oriole]

Idt it was a famous sword tbh, think that was just TCB being TCB

[formal wagon]

oh what was different in viz?

[iron oriole]

Yeah

[formal wagon]

which chapter was that so i can check it

[iron oriole]

1169

[formal wagon]

oh

sadge

tcb tried to save one piece

[azure wasp]

Still could be Supreme grade blade tho

[formal wagon]

but viz and oda stopped them again, those ne'er do wells

[muted hedge]

i wish there were more people who used broadswords

[formal wagon]

i don't. that would be scary.

[stuck pagoda]

Koby could

He needs some cool points

[azure wasp]

Shushui abd Cavendish rapier gotta be my favorite swords in op

[muted hedge]

i wish that Oda made more medieval looking characters, with the classic armor

[stuck pagoda]

Arcs would be over in 10 seconds if the straw hats were as cold as they are in the Oda drawings

[azure wasp]

Speed demon wearing heels

[iron oriole]

Hakuba >>>>>

[hazy echo]

Knight Islands Arc when

[muted hedge]

heed our words Oda make Lodestar or Laugh Tale either wild western or medieval knight themed

[vital heart]

Aloha!

[thick mango]

Hey guys

[muted hedge]

hello

[prisma yacht]

hyhy

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-squirrel-7th-gif-11794159313038643492

[muted marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-cat-pet-petting-cat-meme-cat-gif-15527107817750122353

[prisma yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-cat-eating-cat-funny-cat-gif-4777984924671153763

[stuck pagoda]

Dih

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-huh-what-iron-man-surprised-gif-17639389346286804402

[stuck pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-tony-stark-avengers-kirkified-gif-4618820868378725995

[high wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-ass-so-ass-rayleigh-one-piece-one-piece-meme-gif-18387547488092157080

[stuck pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[high wolf]

Oops

mb bro 💔

[stuck pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/i-fw-you-vro-vro-cat-fw-gif-16116433353141566093

[high wolf]

💔💔💔

[potent pier]

Lode star will be deserted

[muted marsh]

Yummers

[muted hedge]

https://fixupx.com/astersabu/status/2008820383902998685

さぶあす (@astersabu)

まとめてみたけどハロウィン絵描きすぎ

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FixupX · Jan 7, 2026, 8:37 AM

[craggy vapor]

Nami lied

[vital heart]

Aloha!

[grand flower]

Bye meek 👋🏾

[formal wagon]

all nami does is lie

and eat hot chip or something

[muted hedge]

just reading that sbs made me feel like a degenerate

[prisma yacht]

Happy b'day meek

[graceful grove]

happy 13th B'day meek

[hoary steppe]

bruh

[frozen aspen]

https://x.com/i/status/2008678114008903720

Slushie 🍬🍧 (@neronamonet)

One Piece Truth: All of the Admirals grew up poor, except for Issho, who is a long-time gambling addict.

This is because the roulette always pays off, and you will always turn a profit by gambling more money 💸✅

X · Jan 6, 2026, 11:12 PM

No wonder every admiral but him are losers

[formal wagon]

all the evil ones have money

fujitora and kizaru

[frozen aspen]

wrong and cringe

Fujitora is the only good admiral

Gambling chad

the rest are broke and evil

[formal wagon]

Goda

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/temporalboreal/status/2008662356205989912/photo/1

tempo (@temporalboreal)

momonosuke (and yamato)

X · Jan 6, 2026, 10:09 PM

[formal wagon]

now draw momonosuke and someone cool like akainu

[hearty shore]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[formal wagon]

no

good question

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-squirrel-7th-gif-11794159313038643492

[olive sigil]

Does Loki comb Ragnir?

[grand flower]

Lmaooo

[rich hornet]

Loki is chained up, so ragnir probably combs Loki

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/Gzam_77/status/2001582505212920120/photo/1

Risco_Zam (OPEN commission) (@Gzam_77)

I draw Nolan
#onepiece #art #artmoots

X · Dec 18, 2025, 9:17 AM

[digital spear]

So glue

[small ember]

Nolan fan art??? In this economy??

[upbeat yarrow]

guys how old is shanks during the harald fight?

[proud pivot]

Like

25-26

Sorry

26-27

[upbeat yarrow]

man

i've been trying to pinpoint when exactly did doffy learn about marijoie's secret and if it had anything to do with shanks

i think im gonna stick to agendas

[muted hedge]

how would Shanks have been involved if the timeline did match?

[upbeat yarrow]

i had a hunch that it had to do with doffy using the slave outbreak caused by fisher tiger and shanks as a distraction

but the timeline is a bit too confusing for me

[formal wagon]

...

[upbeat yarrow]

dont say it

[fresh silo]

marijoie's secret could be that they have an actual king on the empty throne ?

[upbeat yarrow]

might be

[fresh silo]

i mean there are a lot of other possibilities but what the other 20 families know is most likely to be their secret

[grand flower]

I assume the national treasure was Imu since Dofy drew attention to the eternal life and personality transplant surgeries

[digital spear]

Doffy shot his father as a kid and brought his head to Mariejois I think thats when he learned the secret

That was 30 years ago

[muted hedge]

i think that the grimoire that Imu was shown using in Elbaph, could be the treasure

though it could just be a aesthetic for Imu's overall theme

[final trench]

Usopp montblanc

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/jingynz694712/status/1988881871380365741/photo/1

糯香萤茶 (@jingynz694712)

#shamrock #ONEPIECE
臭克斯好爽的一张脸

X · Nov 13, 2025, 8:09 AM

[upbeat yarrow]

i see, hope oda explains it eventually cause it just seems unlikely that he brought homing's head, learned the secret and bailed at the age of 10 now that god knights are in the picture

[final trench]

Soon

Buggy for some reason will go back to impel down, pass doflamingo, he’ll asked to be free, they say fuck no, then doffy reveals he knows a secret about the wg

Cue flashback

[winged sierra]

brush brush

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/view/essica-monthly-squirrel-8th-gif-15805144572638005267

[iron oriole]

Posting a day early i see

[dense haven]

its 8 somewhere

[iron oriole]

Propaganda

Timezones aren't real Spice

[coral vapor]

do yall agree with the idea that OP has gotten worse in recent years

[runic dock]

It could be part of whatever mythical df ability he has been using

[muted hedge]

i don't think Imu has a devil fruit, but yeah it's probably part of their powerset whatever it is

[fallen meteor]

No

[final trench]

Black magic

[upbeat yarrow]

in what sense

[dense haven]

yes oda fell off

[coral vapor]

just his writing in general

not necessarily in comparison to the peaks of one piece but on average

[dense haven]

oda hasnt been good since wci

but hes coming back slowly

[upbeat yarrow]

he kinda fumbled during wano on a couple things but no i dont think so

[fallen meteor]

I kinda feel the opposite

But im comparing with Wano

To me Egghead and Elbaf are miles better

[formal wagon]

*drum

[high wolf]

You think WCI isn't well written? 😭

[strong wadi]

no he's saying wano, egghead, and elbaf arent well written

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/taoru0239/status/2008886187587776920/photo/1

たおる (@taoru0239)

リメイク

X · Jan 7, 2026, 12:59 PM

[high wolf]

Wano is alright.
Egghead is good.
Elbaph is Great.

[scenic dirge]

Wano > Egghead

[remote maple]

egghead is peak

[scenic dirge]

Yall are just babies

[remote maple]

the kuma flashback was like the saddest backstory in the whole manga

[scenic dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/bully-maguire-cry-gonna-cry-spider-man-spiderman-meme-gif-144908065341776122

[remote maple]

and that's why kuma is the goat

[red lagoon]

Egghead above wano for me

[remote maple]

or the bear for that matter

🧸

[red lagoon]

SABAODY is my favourite arc

[coral vapor]

ok where do yall see Egghead and Wano in general in OP

like are they highly ranked

or lower

[celest mauve]

I actually liked reading acts 1 and 2 of wano, I have it above egghead overall too

[red lagoon]

Highly ranked

[celest mauve]

I have my issues with the arc, but I enjoyed a lot about it (especially luffy's journey through the arc)

[remote maple]

egghead is near the top, wano is close to it

[high wolf]

I agree.

[urban lodge]

Wano is too messy

[high wolf]

Egghead top 10.

Wano top 5.

[torn osprey]

Now that I think about it, is the latest opening the first that doesn’t adapt everything shown?

[tidal onyx]

[tidal onyx]

[celest mauve]

egghead is really badly soured for me by how oda spammed G5's drawback and made luffy look like a borderline incompetent, ever-hungry fool in his first arc as a yonko

[torn osprey]

That’s Dressrosa but I’ve never run Wano back in my reading

[muted hedge]

Egghead was way better on a re-read

[tidal onyx]

Dressrosa is much tighter than wano really

[scenic dirge]

I think Egghead is one of the more overrated arcs in the series 🤷‍♀️

[tidal onyx]

Wano is a really good arc but it is by far the messiest one in the series

[muted hedge]

Wano was too big for it's own good

[upbeat yarrow]

egghead was great imo and also liked reaction piece when it was current, so im the exception

[pulsar timber]

The Golden lion arc was more overrated

[muted hedge]

reading Egghead weekly was torture

but it's like that for most arcs

[pulsar timber]

I’m probably in the minority in that I haven’t ever felt tired reading weekly or by pacing and I’ve been reading for about 6 years

[muted hedge]

i've started to get tired of it, mostly because all the vagueness which is in the chapters

[pulsar timber]

I don’t mind because Oda does give answers way more frequently now and I know everything will be known eventually

I just like to read the series so I don’t mind whatever content is in it

[remote maple]

egghead had one of the best weekly experiences if you ask me

[muted hedge]

yeah, i am just really tired of everything being something which we need to wait 100 chapters to get the answer for

[remote maple]

something crazy was always happening

[muted hedge]

like for example the whole ordeal with Loki's fruit, we got a sillhouette now but still not the whole thing

Oda is a master at edging us, lol

[pulsar timber]

Wano weekly experience was better because everyone wasn’t a lobotomized idiot in the fandom yet

[remote maple]

oda loves his silhouettes

[woven talon]

Egghead was an excellent weekly exp

Elbaf has been good

Wano was okay

[pulsar timber]

Well Oda is gonna show that in like 10 chapters max anyways so

[alpine trench]

ZKK was a thing then, obviously there were lobotomized idiots at that time too

[muted hedge]

i hope so, lol

[pulsar timber]

Yeah there were obviously but agenda piece wasn’t a thing yet

[woven talon]

WCI suffered weekly imo to start with but got amazing near the end

Zou was excellent weekly

[alpine trench]

It obviously was a thing Caleb

[urban lodge]

The agenda stuff started with act 3

It was already around

[alpine trench]

Wano is what gave rise to the modern state of the fandom

[muted hedge]

roofpiece was the major upstart of agenda piece, wasn't it

[alpine trench]

For such a good arc it’s a crime that most of that shit is just mired by agenda bullshit

[upbeat yarrow]

how can you said when zkk and the raid will fail was everywhere

[woven talon]

Dressrosa was horrendous weekly. Punk Hazard was bad apart from the end. FMI was bleh weekly.

I wasn’t caught up before that tho

[muted hedge]

wasn't agenda piece a joke at first, something which the fandom had to joke about when Oda had breaks

and now people take it way too seriously

[alpine trench]

It was serious then too

[muted hedge]

damn

[pulsar timber]

Agenda piece wasn’t coined and a major problem until egghead was starting. Like yeah there were agendas like every arc has and yeah wano was the start of many fandom problems but it just became significantly worse in egghead

[alpine trench]

Honestly even WCI was horrible because of agenda shit at least in the discussion channels

I love WCI but god

[pulsar timber]

ZKK isn’t the same to me. I didn’t take that seriously. A better comparison would be the Huffman Zoro memes to start the raid or when Sanji got captured by Maria

[alpine trench]

Constant Sanji slander for no reason, “why did Luffy win”

[woven talon]

WCI was bad for me because I didn’t appreciate the first act that much weekly

But I think it’s better binged

[muted hedge]

well the reason for that was probably the Zoro fans, if we're being honest

[woven talon]

And the second and third acts are fantastic

[muted hedge]

i remember a lot of Zoro fans being very angry that Zoro wasn't prominent in WCI

[alpine trench]

Bro wasn’t even in it

But yeah it was “if he were here things wouldn’t be this way”

Fucking chuds

[woven talon]

See what bugged me was the whole “this is eneies lobby but for sanji” thing

[alpine trench]

Smooth brain shit

[pulsar timber]

Luffy vs katakuri is funny because people were still arguing about it late into the raid

[upbeat yarrow]

i do remember people dropping one piece because of katakuri vs luffy

[alpine trench]

I mean, WB Akainu shit still goes after 16 years

[muted hedge]

not to mention Shanks vs Mihawk lol

[woven talon]

Zoro and Sanji fans legit make me dislike the characters a bit… and that’s a shame because in a vacuum I love them

[pulsar timber]

I’m so glad Oda brought Zoro vs Sanji back on the menu

[woven talon]

Best fight in the series lol

[pulsar timber]

The world is healing

[woven talon]

I’m sick of it

[muted hedge]

sadly i feel this is a case for most of the fandoms which spawn around certain characters, they just go so overboard with their constant agenda that it gets to a point where i just roll my eyes at them

[coral vapor]

how did agenda piece even get as popular as it currently is

[woven talon]

Oda only gives Zoro and Sanji highlight roles at times

[pulsar timber]

Because we started seeing more characters do more things during egghead

So it gave people more reason to be invested in certain characters

[woven talon]

Egghead was great

[coral vapor]

yea that's true tbf

[woven talon]

Prolly jay d legend

[urban lodge]

And KOL

[muted hedge]

people navigating to One Piece after the series they were invested in stopped, could also be a cause

[woven talon]

I find him funny but he doesn’t actually take it serious. It’s the fans around them

[grave atlas]

Lack of reading comprehension but inability to disengage from one piece conversations

[pulsar timber]

When you start seeing kid vs shanks and Blackbeard vs law and garp vs kuzan and etc then the normal agendas that usually stay contained to Strawhats starts spreading

[formal wagon]

bumhats

[pulsar timber]

The precursor to it started with the kid and law fight in wano but didn’t get coined until egghead

[formal wagon]

side characters >

[muted hedge]

it's always been popular to pit the characters against eachother i guess, which results in one side slandering the other

[woven talon]

I’m so glad dragon ball ended years before this agenda stuff started

Imagine if it didn’t

Naruto only got a bit towards the end

OP has had it for like half its run now

[rose rune]

Bleach nobody cared enough to do agenda stuff

[pulsar timber]

Imagine this with bleach and naruto were running in its prime too

I still see powerscalinf between the 3 series

[woven talon]

I feel like it’s missing the point of them

[muted hedge]

definitely

[grave atlas]

Because they can powerscale...

[pulsar timber]

Naruto and bleach definently had the same agenda stuff

[upbeat yarrow]

its hilarious to me how zoro sanji fans behave more like zoro and sanji than the characters themselves

[muted hedge]

it has become a sport at this point, you root for a character against other characters

[pulsar timber]

They just didn’t have a catchy name like agenda piece

[grave atlas]

No, we just powerscale

[grave atlas]

Because the one piece community cannot powerscale

[pulsar timber]

The terminology originated with nba twitter so yeah

[grave atlas]

Then they blame Oda

[pulsar timber]

No there were 100% agendas

[grave atlas]

No, there were not.

[muted hedge]

isn't powerscaling based in an agenda, almost 90% of the time

[pulsar timber]

People just don’t explicitly call it agendas or agendas in the same way we do now

[grave atlas]

No

[woven talon]

Legit. Like I don’t think they understand that Zoro and Sanji are actually friends. They just enjoy their rivalry and have egos

[grave atlas]

As I said, incapable of fitting in, so just make up your own

Powerscaling requires reading and time investment

[woven talon]

I think if Zoro or Sanji died tomorow the opposite group would be happy

[grave atlas]

Why do that when you can just agenda in circles

And call it powerscaling

[pulsar timber]

Given that there are many idiots in those fandoms who are just wrong, agendas did exist

[craggy vapor]

this thing would solve all powerscaling debates

[pulsar timber]

I can think of several characters in Naruto

[fallen meteor]

Bleach and Naruto had agendad too but its way more straightfoward who is stronger than who so they can't say "yeah rock Lee clears madara"

[grave atlas]

People like you

The problem

[pulsar timber]

?

[grave atlas]

It's not agenda, it's just powerscaling

[pulsar timber]

Powerscaling and agendas go hand in hand

[fallen meteor]

Since one piece is more like Pokémon or rock paper scissors on their battles it gets agenda-y

[woven talon]

As long as there are people who seek entertainment in this life… agenda shall not vanish from the world — Gol D. Roger

[grave atlas]

Coming from someone who only speaks agenda and can't powerscale I wish you would stop trying to correct me

Like holy shit sybau

[fallen meteor]

Dude what are you doing

[woven talon]

Idk I can observe that character x is stronger without rooting for them

Like Arlong is stronger than Krieg. I need to understand that to understand the story is progressing in scale. But I neither want nor don’t want that fact to be true

Power scaling in a community of illiterate people who are stuck on their biases is what causes the agendas to emerge

Like on an individual level you can do it and just be wrong

[fallen meteor]

One piece as a whole has a lot of wiggle room for agendas too because its not as clear the higher you go

[woven talon]

But when there’s a social aspect it becomes an argument

[pulsar timber]

You dont know me lol

[muted hedge]

i think people also just hate admitting when they're wrong

[woven talon]

Yeah

[grave atlas]

That has no place in powerscaling

[royal orchid]

scrolling tiktok randomly and I find a specimen in the comments

[grave atlas]

You lose when you lose kid

That's why it's called a debate

[fallen meteor]

What is this

[royal orchid]

@outer patio

[full basin]

so im guessing no chapter this week?

[fallen meteor]

Ye

[muted hedge]

yeah it's break

[full basin]

rip

so sad

[royal orchid]

https://x.com/pewpiece/status/2008625895565603219?t=_NZNuuoWhoWIpPsKkkhlWQ&s=19

Pew (@pewpiece)

There is no onepiece chapter this week it will return next week with onepiece chapter 1171

X · Jan 6, 2026, 7:45 PM

[woven talon]

We’re under 30 chapters away from having double the chapter count since the time skip.

[pulsar timber]

That’s majority of powerscalers. Most of the characters powerscaled against each other are characters that haven’t interacted or fought, so you need to gather information and “evidence” that your guy will win. And that’s without being fanatical, which a lot of the are

[woven talon]

Yeah but I remember a time before it was like this

[woven talon]

Anywho… almost actually over what the “half way point” was said to be

Imagine if we got another 500 chapters 😅

1200 was my estimate for how long OP would be back in like dressrosa

Now we’re here and it still feels 300 chapters away

[muted hedge]

i hope that it doesn't go on too long, so Oda gets to spend some time with his family

[craggy vapor]

people hate when their points are being criticized cuz they feel themselves being criticized. If you are in Uni, there is a class that teaches that and how to talk to people, but online all chains are off.

[woven talon]

I think it’s legit gonna be like 120-200 chapters after Elbaf ends bare minimum

[muted hedge]

i mean yeah, people are just very insecure in general
especially online

[fallen meteor]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2008625892176667102

YUNG JEFF 🗡️ (@YUNGJEFF)

I’ve been pretty good so far on not getting spoiled for One Piece related stuff
︀︀
︀︀But this is @OnePieceAnime’s profile pic that I of course saw, so…
︀︀
︀︀I’ll be patiently waiting to know wtf in this show could possibly make Luffy look like this 😭
︀︀
︀︀(Muting so I’m not spoiled)

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FixupX · Jan 6, 2026, 7:45 PM

This is so funny poor dude

Getting spoiled by the official account

[latent hamlet]

This reminds me of g5 = super saiyan
Except in this case
Every1 knows it

[woven talon]

I do remember asking the boss if OPscans to change their logo from gear 5 Luffy when I spoke to him lol

[cold steppe]

Tbf Oda has made it his life mission to spoil g5

[woven talon]

But now even Netflix has gear 5 Luffy on the cover

Like wtf

[latent hamlet]

G2 3 4
Oda sleep

G5
"This is what one piece was all about"

[fallen meteor]

My cousins asked me when luffy gets metal hands

[latent hamlet]

When franky wanted to make luffy into a cyborg

[woven talon]

Akai!

[craggy vapor]

I missed Gear 5 in the Red movie. I heared it will appear there so I looked forward to it but didn’t notice it

[pulsar timber]

Luffy dies

[woven talon]

My brother didn’t notice either

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/gear-5-gear-5-luffy-monkey-d-luffy-one-piece-shanks-gif-16465631779840169490

[craggy vapor]

damn how could I miss this?

[latent hamlet]

It was basically luffy suddenly transforms and does the punch

[muted hedge]

it's easy to mistake for gear 4

[latent hamlet]

And then its gone

[woven talon]

Film red is too kinetic to notice some stuff I think

[latent hamlet]

Also its basically entirely red and white there and was pretty fast paced

So you're probably overwhelmed to notice

[woven talon]

Ppl still don’t seem to realize Uta isn’t coming back lol

Even after seeing the film

[latent hamlet]

She'll be back in film red 2

[woven talon]

Sooo idk

[muted hedge]

i really wonder what the next movie is going to be about

given Oda said that it's not going swimmingly

[craggy vapor]

good, cuz her singing was annoying

[latent hamlet]

Luffy gear 5 fights a villain that's not imu but its imu

[fallen meteor]

Uta will return in Film Red 2: Doomsday

[grave atlas]

Then stop trying to pretend you're powerscaling or a powerscaler, that is not the activity, and not the hobby for you

[craggy vapor]

Shanks and Luffy didn’t see each other in Film Red right?

[muted hedge]

nope

[craggy vapor]

That’s good. I would pissed if they spoiled their meeting like that

[woven talon]

https://tenor.com/view/uta-one-piece-gif-26698982

[muted hedge]

i think they felt eachothers presence but they never meet face to face, since Luffy was in the dreamworld if i remember correctly

[latent hamlet]

Ye that was basically it

[woven talon]

They see them sailing away at the end

[latent hamlet]

They just got the vibe they were involved togehrer

[woven talon]

But that’s not the time for a joyful reunion

[unique lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/luffyp-gif-6490260016817560436

[vale heath]

Live action gear 4

[upbeat yarrow]

this reminds me of when avengers endgame was coming out and i got lightly spoiled by a pokemon meme

[latent hamlet]

U know
The luffy + shanks combo really does look like an actual haki blast

[woven talon]

I hope Gear 5 doesn’t become as ubiquitous in OP marketing as Super Saiyan is for DB

[latent hamlet]

Thats how luffy beats imu

Haki blast

[latent hamlet]

Too late

[woven talon]

Super Saiyan is something that 3/4 of dragon ball doesn’t have so it’s ridiculous

[unique lagoon]

just add in the G4 colors

[latent hamlet]

Ever since it came out people argued it was better than super saiyan, whether more iconic yada yada

[woven talon]

Gear 5 is limited to one character late series

It shouldn’t be so advertised

[grand flower]

It’s the main character

[vale heath]

Gear 4 no haki

[latent hamlet]

Its the MC
In a SHONEN

Transformations ARE the marketing

[woven talon]

I mean better is whatever but it’ll never be more iconic lol

[latent hamlet]

A lot of of people may not consume the content
But if they're in the same genre space, they would have definitely heard about the transformation

[woven talon]

You right, but I think it might be because we’re so close to the moment. I think when it’s less new we won’t see it as much. Look at gear 4 now

I hope so anyway

[distant vine]

We're kinda there already

[latent hamlet]

Gear 4 wasnt really that crazy imo

[woven talon]

I’m hoping it’ll die down as we get further away from the initial reveal

[woven talon]

Were you caught up when it was revealed?

[latent hamlet]

I think i was reading the Manga at the time yea

Can't remember its been a while

[woven talon]

At the time it felt like gear 4 was OP’s super Saiyan to me

Although I think gear fifth carried more weight because of the Nika stuff

And because of the context of the fight

[latent hamlet]

I think g4 also happened during Naruto's last arc

[grand flower]

G4 didn’t really take over marketing

[woven talon]

But I wouldn’t call the gear 4 reveal small at the time

[grand flower]

Around that time they were still overusing the FMI outfits

[latent hamlet]

It kinda reminds me of like....g2 reveal

It cool
But like

[woven talon]

They still do overuse those outfits imo

[latent hamlet]

Not crazy

[woven talon]

Maybe

I still hope we’re prisoners of the moment

[grand flower]

Yeah they really do

[latent hamlet]

me when I see some1 cosplay Nami FMI for the 100th time

[woven talon]

And gear 5 marketing will die down

Because it should be a secret

[latent hamlet]

Nah I dont think g5 will die down

Its meant to be his "true form"

[woven talon]

We’ll see

[distant vine]

So tragic those were the ones that got spammed too

[woven talon]

I’m hoping more than I believe it lol

[grand flower]

I think those are legitimate goon baiters lol

[latent hamlet]

Tbh as some1 who does cosplay photography
Its also arguably one of the most easiest to cosplay