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Fiction > reality
I thought we'd see Kiku paying respects to Izo's grave during the cover story but nope
I was kinda bothered by most stuff not involving Nika in the last year or 2 of Wano
Moria's grave tho
wano is filled with so many odd choices among all the hype moments and aura
and it takes a good 12-13% of the series, jeez
Still wish Zoro went to Ryuma's grave
Wano was such a weird arc in the sense that I either thought things were the worst thing ever or the best thing ever and nothing in between
It can somehow feel simultaneously rushed and dragged at the same time
luffy uppercutting kaido with ACoC: peak fiction
denjiro disappearing and raizo vs fukurokuju: abyss fiction
yeah that's how it felt in the raid especially
big mom being in elbaph would make more sense than in wano
and poor kaido with a 5 page slideshow for a flashback when oda could've given a proper one right after luffy's final defeat
similar to how loki's got his flashback going on while imu wrecks elbaf lol
Kaido didn't need one
so glad we got a full life story on elder Hyougoro
I liked Raizo the most of the non kinemon scabbards and that stupid fight more than any strawhat hat not involving luffy or Chopper
Kaido's whole thing is might makes right, that doesn't need much of a backstory tbh
remember that y’all?
I’d rather not have anything than something lousy
Legendary gag
this just showed even more so what a beast Kaido was, since birth
Kaido just thrived for combat, lol
Oda peaked right here and it’s all been downhill since then
I feel like we already knew that. I think if you’re not going to do something good don’t do it.
i think it serves it's purpose by making Kaido not sympathetic what so ever
like, he isn't someone who had a real reason for why he was doing the violence he just fucking loved it
yeah
well, a lot of people thought that Kaido would have a sympathetic backstory of some kind
people were lulled in by Doflamingos amazing backstory, I suppose
I felt a small bit of sympathy for Kaido when it was said how many times he got captured but then i lost it all when it said he basically did it for free food
he kind of does. His friend Linlin betrayed him and then his idol Rocks betrayed him too and neg diffed him.
I didn’t need a big backstory like Doffy, I didn’t need anything. But if you’re going to do something, make it say something new to the story. I would have been perfectly content with Kaido getting no flashback whatsoever
it looks like rocks would just abuse kaido
To me its more of he just respected him because he was strong
Nah he was already like that with his comment about Harald
Nah I think Kaido was already like that before Rocks
Whole reason why Rocks gave him the boot
Kaido respected Rocks’ strenght. That’s why he followed him.
He was asking Rocks why he doesnt just beat Harald and force him to join
yeah but im sure rocks helped with it
or at least reinforced his belief
Rocks wasn't like that really though
i mean its how he gained his crew lol
It reinforced his belief that pirates are traitors
i don't know if i'd say that it makes Kaidos backstory sympathetic as a whole
he literally strong armed all of his crew into joining (initially)
Kaido was throwing around grunts on Hachinosu, in order to even get the invite in the first place
so what goes around comes around i suppose
it doesn’t. I was just joking
I think the only reason Kaido respects Rocks is cause he's strong, that's kinda it
yeah
He won his crew via Davy Backs, if he was really all about might makes right then he would have forced Harald to join like Kaido suggested
i mean what do you think the davy back fights are
Games
i cant imagine the enemy crew had much choice in agreeing to them
its either do a davy back fight or im blowing up your ship
thats the only way i can rationalize anyone in universe agreeing to one
You lose face as a Pirate if you decline the Davy Back iirc
the only reason why you'd even earn Kaidos respect is just for your strength
We need to know how Rocks met WB
There's an honor aspect but yeah you're right there's an implicit threat probably
if you reject, you probably end up dying either way
like, sorry buck but we're going to kill you then
@thick mango ur username is always funny to me
i find the idea of pirate honor stupid
Why?
like im sure some go by a code but most pirates are just people who want to rob and plunder
most pirates dont really strike me as the type to care about honour
like 90% of the ones we've seen
Linlin does tho
but she beat that Dino
she says that but in practice it only applies if you go along with her
Big Mom without the hunger pangs maybe
a lot of big mom's stuff is only surface level
like you can live in peace and harmony in totto land (if you sacrifice your life to her)
I think its basically an implied code of honour, similar to honour among thieves.. they don't necessarily follow it completely
hell the one example we see of a davy back fight in the series is foxy being extremely dishonourable during it lol
remember the tree that was killed in Big Mom Land? That was so brutal. He didn’t deserve that
he basically dupes luffy into agreeing to it
Kingbaum. Never forget.
poor guy
Kingbaum wasn't allowed to join the crew 'cause it would be too much power.
Nami could have put her orchard on his head
Didnt he have the soul of one of big moms dead husbands or am I tripping?
tangerine tree baum
being one of Big Moms husbands has to be one of the worst choices you can make
Idr maybe
that's signing up for a life of torture
I doubt most of them had a choice
even worse
Yeah lol
didnt oda imply she kidnapped some or most
Nah, its signing up to be bred & tossed to the side
Big Mom needs a strong husband. Like Kaido
Big mom must have only liked men who were a bit weaker than her
Never fucked with rocks or anyone else clearly stronger than her
They have a sense that they have to stick together on the harsh sea and theyre open to sea shanties, sailors yarn and sea myths and legends in general, like Davy Jones Locker etc.
that reminds me of lesbian big mom theory in god valley
Big Mom didn't seem fund of anyone in that way
There was probably a power dynamic thing yeah
Though it does seem like it was a means to an end
could Buggy be BM’s and Rock’s son?
was Big Mom ever truly in love?
no
This would match up with her persona in general , she wanted to stay dominant the whole time
Relationship or not
Controlling everything
look at Big Moms 39th child and decide
Gloriosa teasing Big Mom about her not knowing what love is, is probably true
Her eating Carmel etc & thinking they left her fucked her up
!me?
i believe u, but y again
given Big Moms upbringing
Gloriosa was spittin
Shame this was the only thing of note she did
ah yes the woman with 43 husbands is lesbian 
i am disappointed that Gloriosa wasn't more prevelant in the rescue of Shakky
given it's clear that she cared about her
Long con
I will say though, the panel of her crying brought a tear to my eye
that's why it's such a shame that we didn't get more of them
VERY closeted
it's clear that they had the sisterly bond
I'm glad she at least was on Rogers ship post GV so she was with Shakky
Well yknow maybe she had all those husbands just for her empire maybe she didnt feel anything towards them
if only we'd get one panel of them hugging or something, just making sure to check up on eachother
Big Mom might just be aromantic
Yes , let us keep talking in the present tense as if she is still alive

Fr would have been great
Yeah I am bothered by this the most and this does add the fuel to how I feel that the way Oda handled the female characters is hit or miss and unfortunately Gloriosa seemed to be a miss
She didnt have to go as far and have 80 children with them ...
Leave BM in Wano smh
but she needed the empire...
She’s too good for wano
She basically used those kids as her soldiers
She's not good enough for Elbaf now
Humpf!
I mean considering what her dream is she definitely may felt that she had too
its almost 2026. leave Kaido and BM in their graves
You know who is good enough for Elbaf?
Big Mom shows up just to get Domi Reversed within 5 seconds and ruin everything
Also good choice but I was referring to Vivi lol
it’s time to let them go
Vivi will meet the SHs at the Heaven realm
That’s how I see it too
I could handle another arc with BM I could not handle another Kaido appearance outside of a flashback
Vivi reunion at her wedding 
At least I understand why people would want Big mom to come back because of Elbaf but Kaido’s story is pretty much over I felt like so his story had ended
I can’t handle another arc with BM but I can understand why people want her back
Kaido tho? Nah cmon now
To Imu?
ew no. Wapol
its still kinda wild shakky was the catalyst for god valley lol
i mean yeah, it just feels like there's so many small things that could have made up for much more interesting dynamics between the characters
I want Kaido and Big Mom to come back as part of Blackbeard's crew
I think I've seen someone say Kaido lost his horn so Oda is gonna bring him back because it gives him a new design I guess?
Yeah like she doesn’t have to be the one to save Shakky but let her contribute it
Rayleigh didn't simp
uhhh nah bro
fine put gaban
bringing Kaido back is boring
It was shuron who said this tbf
Well technically only part of it, the actual catalyst is the native hunting game with Davy clan being discovered to warrant that to happen, it’s why Xebec was there in the first place
lol of course
yeah, or at least something after all of it showing that they still care for eachother despite Gloriosas obvious jealousy
I guess but kinda bothered me either way and I had been feeling the same with other female characters too with few exceptions
Oda hates Gil too
I just realized every time I say "I think I've seen someone say" I know exactly who it is I'm just like not saying it type shit
it would have gone a long way if we just got a "i am glad you're okay Shakky." from Gloriosa after it was said and done
He forgot about him
Oda has terrible taste in characters sometimes
Or at least show her fight someone too
I was hoping to see him on the colour spread so bad
Oda's top 5 worst fumbles:
5 PH Smoker
4 Jack
3 GV Garling
2 PH Tashigi
1 Saturn
Nah GV Garling getting beat up is cool
people made up battle scenarios and we got none of it, lol
and Saturn was fine
It's dumb
Also we never saw him do anything about Shakky getting stolen
They should have just not shown Rocks defeating him
1 is Kuma
Or had him fight someone not as strong as Rocks
Garling can fight like... Silver Axe maybe
Oh Silver Axe is a bad fumble too
100%
they both get no diffed
Just for him to do nothing
Well Silver Axe was never meant to be anything special, he's just a little extra lore I guess
This is why we should stop with the straw hats vs Blackbeard match up speculation cause let’s be real not all of them will happen lol
absurdly gigantic missed opportunity if it doesn’t
would've been best OP character with perfect storyline but he fumbled it by keeping him alive and soon he will be fully restored after going on and on about how it can't be done ever.
they have the same crew size and everything
It’ll happen. They just won’t be included in the final arc
Why did Oda give him a special introduction then





i think akinu is really cool
Idk for the aura
and egghead ends or wahtever
Silver axe is just an excuse for people to theorize higurashi
Just for nothing to happen
Silver Axe is cool
SILVER AXE TAUGHT GABAN EVERYTHING HE KNOWS
They're a little freaky with each other
yeah tbh
i thought this row of akainus was like a series of glyphs on a wall
I mean not in the way people expect I am referring too
thats my kinda language
like a minecraft block
wait
I've seen a game with a wall texture that looks like this
like the decoration around a intricate ancient vase
how do you see hoe many people are in the server
I'm going to carve the Akainuglyphs
i used to know
i know the invite link shows it
idk if i can post it
oh okay nice
i said it was 300k to someone and i wanted to make sure i didn't accidently lie
am i still rank 67
almost lied at 400
Somehow blox fruits has more
I’m 47
Im 48
52
i thought id hit top 50 by now
49
im number 1
I think you're fine, you're an entire level ahead of me
Losers with discord levels
loser without discord levels
I’m 67
Says #22 smh
Like the funny thing
And this is your second account
Why are you guys so high smh I'm only at 101
you need to spend more time endlessly debating an argument that has no answer
Dont speak 1/100tj of what I used to
#bots
Mihawk is so cool dude
He looks kinda sad
I brought this up this morning but do you think Morgans might be a special kind of person like buccaneer Davy rogue cd
you can build up an army like any other yonko..
Well she had an unorthodox way of doing it
Cause what's the use of being Morgans all the time it's not really a secret identity if he's in Morgans form all the time
I hit top 200 in past few days
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Been traveling a lot killing a lot of time in here
What? He can't be a special person cause he was still Morgans at God valley. So what's hiding under the zoan. If not a specific special person it can be a special type of person.
How could he know about God valley? That's what got me thinking rogue cd
I am due for a reread of the fantastical series known as one piece
Oda even invites us to think about how tf he got this info
i think oda can make Morgans REALLY important ye
he can even be someone else we know
The burn scar man
since we never see his human mode
this could work too but i feel we need to see this scar soon for the reveal to be cool
I think it's hard for it to be someone we know cause there's kinda no one before God valley. So it couldn't be a rocks era person disappearing into Morgans. Bc Morgans was already active during gv
What’s wrong with his name?
What do you mean
I still think that’s a giant but I wouldn’t mind Morgans
Some local rag with a kiddie name
I don’t think Morgans is a kiddie name
Oh I dunno they're g men fuck em
I feel like the guy making fun of his name is called snaperdoodles
Why would the burn scar man not have a giant be a descriptor if he were a giant
is the anime actually transitioning to seasonal?
holy cooked
Tfw future One Piece viewers who binge 26 episodes a day will have to get used to watching only 26 a year once they catch up.
I think no one really knows what he is. I think he’s one survivor of the galleras and that’s why he has a black ship
Is "Gek Gek Gek" a sound effect?
Glass houses
It was Ginny’s lewk
Leak*
You can’t fool me Shanks. I know what a smile hiding sadness looks like
What do you know
OP fans are truly insane
I usually wish for the good guys to wins
good guys winning sucks
I think if you put them against Kaido and Luffy against big mom we could have had something nice. But I did like how oda dealt with Kaido
been there seen that
You suck
you suck
I’m cool with Law and Kid taking out Big Mom tbh
How many arcs was the Yonko sag?
Ima say seven cause That’s the sexiest number
SIX SEVEN
7 straight arcs of Kid, Luffy, and Law escalating conflicts with those two. The climax was appropriate
YOU DID THIS
You’re so right
YOU SAID SIX
You know what I think of Law
do not blame me for your moral failings
I do genuinely forget
I hate the guy
@vital heart chance we get a TCB chapter this week?
Spoilers aren’t even out
i see
We don’t have the chapter number in the channel name
someone said its possible we dont get spoilers but we get chapter
during these xmas break weeks
That would make me the happiest man alive

Yea
High lol
I’m gonna lock in on xmas eve
Hot take: lucci is really cool and should have been the protagonist
Hot take: egghead ends december
seems so
how did this become your bit 😭
are you egghead because you end december or did this become your new bit because it seems so....

can you go back to vira even tho we know we are going to lodestar next
😭 lodestar falser in current year
+vira was never a bit but a promise
vira is the beating heart that spins the world or something idk
vira is the cool island that i like a lot or something
vira is the awesome that makes the sauce
i hear they got egghead there
vira is decembers end. vira is the new year
vira is just egghead 2
oda said it not me
It's either lodestar or laughtale and laughtale is never happening so it's lodestar
umm Mods..?
Vira will be a luffy exclusive arc. Are you ready for it?
not cool man
law is awesome and should be the protagonist
take that pal
watch what you say
Uhhh Law isn't even real
The monkeys paw curls, you get Vira but it's 45 chapters of Luffy and Dry Bones Kaido fighting on Vira
It’s luffy fighting his internal demons
😭 stop im getting mad
That’s extremely mean
EXACTLY
Well that's the price you have to pay buster
GETTEM
Vira box
imu padoru
vira is the rev + nami arc
this is usopp + franky + uh brook arc
next one is nami + um and + someone else too
why is this the franky arc? eggheac.
Franky? Franky will have the man marked by frames arc
He’s barely been present on Elbaf
Lucky guy has just been running around with Ripley
this arc has been about Robin Nami and Usopp
Still waiting for Usopp sniper Island are
See Imu is such a Good person
Its those pirates that are evil
Imu keeps the world at peace by slavery and genocide
and was sacrificed for a good story
what if imu is the man with the brun scar, who creates whirl pool
impossible
Moria is gonna put Imu's shadow into Oars
just think, a man soo myth, creates whirl pool, and with burn scar? v know imu hates joyboy, what if joyboy [nika] fights imu and gave him the burn scar?
Oh btw have you heard about the monkey king?
v know imu is a man as shanks mentions [HIS] in the latest chapter
I feel like you might've but I gotta confirm
I thought burns scars only appeared in other series
even oda mentions that he is going to appear on 2026
Whos excited for me to cook on the 1170 tl?
I didnt work on 1169.
This is my retribution
My revolution
uprising against the heads of tcb
My return
when will meek have full creative control over how the chapters are translated
Meek has to defeat Feeso first and then whoever owns tcb next
Will you make things right?
u always cook
I still need you to correct 1168
is the chapter coming this week? There hasn’t been spoilers yet (Thank God)

damn its close to a hundred chapters since that chatper
chapter
itd be funny if he came back on 1179
100 chapters
Who 

Why would you want that
because i like him and think hes cool
Have you had your head checked
That explains a lot of things
I thought it was weird you hated Luffy but it all makes sense now
Go see a doctor
You poor thing
They’re not ok in the head
Imagine liking law and Kidd and hating Luffy
It’s not normal
@formal wagon
horse mozart 
🥹 nuance in my also manga . we're healing
someone post the nuancer
Thanks
i mean if you genuinely don’t like him mailbox thats normal😂 although it’s rare if it’s your opinion then it shouldn’t bother others
glad to hear it
TWIN
I literally love Eustass more than anyone has ever loved him on earth
hell yeah. i'm like 20th or 50th place or something but i like him a lot too
maybe like 159th
He ate a blueberry
Dude ate the Willy wonka gum
!ws
redirecting for a willy wonka joke is crazy💀💀who tf cares about getting spoiled that willy wonka has blueberry gum
It’s the rules
it was a joke referencing willy wonka..there was no conversation about it
yall too soft
U posted the evil ai baby gif
The Loki gif
Were they that bad?

Nah just tragic lol
Speaking of which. Loki’s theme song better be sad
Lolololololoki lolololololoki
I need a kazoo on his song
!koido
Sanji has practice feeding Luffy tons of food. So feeding Loki shouldn’t be a problem
Hi Pasta
I have a question
I don't wanna hear it
You're gonna love this
I certainly will not
Oh I think you will

You'll love it more than you love Magellan
I don't love magallan at all tho
it = egghead ends december
The answer is yes
better question, whats up with airplane food
Reallly?
yeah
It's real I think
its gone
No one says something isnt real that many times and it actually isnt real
Monkey king is not real
I think it might be real pasta
its back
It's not
I was tasked to ask you about it
I always take the cheap flights with chips as the food best case scenario
And never will be
Except Sanji did raise a concern about that when Luffy asked lmao
unicorns aren't real
not real
what about monkey king
Why would we be talking about something that isnt real?
unicorns aren't real
Because Balkan is insane
Maybe balkan has a point
i'm on pasta's side
Official announcement: Pasta has one this disscussion 🏆
congrqats to pasta
W Spelling
shame and\ condemnation to those that have not one
yeah
L Mailbox W Speed
:EXTREMERAGEEMOJI:
:steamcomingoutofearsemoji:
steam? like gaming? for games? as a gamer? i love games? lol? what games do you play? cool i guess? the games i play as a gamer are way better? gamer games game?


😭 you can just tell that emoji aggrees with the mesasge above it

Shut up
🎮
He has never had one
Idk I need to hear his side of the story first
you were already officially announced as winner
Shhhh
It's insane ramblings and random pictures and articles he sees irl and on the internet that have no real connection
This is supposed to be sad but it is so funny 😭
it looks kind of sad
its a bit sad
seeing that oda face animated did not work quite as well as they intended
is that from the msot recent episode or a preview for the next
i couldn't find a good *legitimate source * to download the most recent one for the egghead december video
Idk sounds like slander to me
I wouldn't make things up like him
@tranquil blade @el_wilson#0000 @arsalwise#0000 @richardmilli.#0000 @jesuvilla#0000 @stone tulip I’m starting to think shanks hates the responsibilities that come with being an Emperor
Aight well fuck the rest of them I guess discord
I was thinking for a while now that if shanks ends up an antagonist in any way I’ll t be from a disagreement with how he wants Luffy to use the OP, and how Luffy wants to use it
did i miss the last episode of egghead or is it next one?
Now, I’m thinking shanks is gonna straight up try to push that child of destiny stuff off himself ans onto Luffy
@ocean totem @ashen perch @steel stirrup @hot cairn
Next week
thanks
ur wlecome
When I’m rich you rich
I’m going to cry
Rest In Peace QUEEN 🙏
Now I’m thinking joyboy looks and acts like luffy but has shanks red hair
Nah, luffys black hair
But I see where you’re coming from
Yeah I’m not talking about time travel
I think joyboy will be blood related to shanks , but his spirit and personality will be exactly like luffy
It fulfills shanks red hair being important as well as the child of destiny stuff
And it keeps oda’s trademark shanks glaze going until the very end
All boxes are checked
We lost the dub actress for Kureha not too long ago too. RIP both
Child of destiny will just be a prophecy about a D Clan + CD child, trust, not some joyboy bs
W Big Mom W Speed
Cute
Maybe
But then it would be even more bittersweet if shanks is related to joyboy because like
Holy fuck, cd tainted that bloodline
Is the D clan really that great if shanks isn’t part of it
On some game of thrones shit it would hit so good
All i know, is that my hate towards Shanks multiplies at least 5x if he's a joyboy descendant
The nepo baby to end all nepo babies
Maybe he is , but since he was dropped on his head and has absolutely no clue about his mom he’d never know
Everyone knows anime babies remember everything
I already hate him at maximum capacity i dont think it can go up anymore without me ragequiting the manga
Shanks will accumulate all the nepotism
Better him than luffy
Way better
Better neither than either
Give it to the mentor character who gives a fuk
I think maybe the Figarlands were once allied with JoyBoy but betrayed him maybe?
That’d be interesting
Mentor character already has a ton
I'd be okay if Shanks accumulated all the nepotism so it would die with him, but Oda wont do it
He’s not the mc
Like he has CD and potentially D
There's the letter "D" in "CD"...
Goda
Goda again 😔
That makes sense, more inflammatory takes based on hypotheticals and not execution
That’s how writing works right? You hear the premise of a book then write a review then read it
I get the sense Oda’s gearing us up to see a more insidious side to Shanks
I think about what Garp said about Roger
If he was mad enough, he’d wipe out entire armies
I assume Garling knows he's a D and told Shamrock and Shamrock told Shanks or Garling just told Shanks himself. I also assume Blackbeard divulged something important during his fight with Shanks. It could be many things, but being a D is possible.
lmao firing on all cylinders today huh Shuron
That man raised someone with the predisposition of a CD
I believe in honesty
And that means letting folk know
That was some wack shit they just said
I assumed Garling is such a dick he didn’t even bother to find out more about lady red hair
I think everyone should strive to be better U_U
But it’s possible
Nah. I'd say the most likely scenario is that Garling found out the truth of God Valley through his wife who divulged info about the D clan, believing she could trust him after she was pregnant because of him.
I don't think he minds it
It's not like there's an actual set list of duties or rules
Shanks still just sails around partying
Luffy or Shanks being descendants of Joyboy is pure and utter garbage
like actually trash
I would be fine with him staying largely a good guy but having maybe a few mistakes that haunt him besides just Blackbeard could work, honestly to me it's really weird because Shanks in flashbacks (especially this one) feels way more interesting and compelling than he does in the current day
I get people hating it if it’s tied to the MC but hating it tied to a tertiary character is kind of baseless
I just don’t get why
It’s not like shanks is the focus and we follow him around and the defeat of a bad guy clinches on something shanks does
I dont care if Shanks is somehow descended from Joyboy, it would be far from my least favorite thing about him
and it works fine narratively if you make a few assumptions about what Oda will do next
it’s just a super boring option to me
So it's not like that bad to me
I will always think it’s more fun if luffy inherited joyboy will though wills , not blood
But idc about shanks
Joyboy having no descendants would also be fine to me of course
it’s the better option
A lot will depend on him tho
This is when Oda being so bad at proportions can lead to theorycrafting 😭
We are unable to tell Joyboy's actual size, if his lineage would be something other than Human.
Joyboy could be normal or a giant I think
That would already be the case tho with shanks regardless , him being related to joyboy as well would just be like a fun fact for me at that point , that’s why i personally don’t care if that gets revealed
Very common thought that Joyboy was a giant when we presumably saw his strawhat in Imu's vault.
Oh well he's like maybe a 60-70% buccaneer hybrid maybe, would explain why buccaneers are so hated by the WG
It could be like a neat little twist on everything and could be why the mermaid psychic girl’s prophecy had a shanks silhouette
If JoyBoy was a rubber man then he could change his size to fit any hat
Joyboy kinda has to be from a different race cause humans don’t usually live 100 years
The hat would just change with him, that's how Oda does his shtick
and the void century was over with Joyboy’s death
I just wanna know who gave that hat to JoyBoy and started him on the path of revolution
Why is that different if its Luffy
Maybe the hat belonged to a bucanneer best friend , maybe the hat belonged to a giant , now I think the hat was left over after he died while going big mode lol
Cause when you make the mc more special than just a random guy that makes people mad
My new theory is that the only thing on Laugh Tale is a shack that sells straw hats in many different sizes
Shanks isnt a random guy
My new theory on laugh tale is morj’s new theory
He bought it at the dollar store
that's when you know you've gone wrong
Its OVER
So far he still kind of is , Garling isn’t special and we have yet to find out why lady red hair is special tbf
Lmfao he cooked this one time
Maybe he stole it from Japan who knows
But I like the idea joyboy sent the one piece to the future
Nothing but the one piece
It has yet to arrive , that’s why Roger was late , all he saw was a note
Well yeah thats the thing, Joyboy descendants would be the thing that makes him the most not random
Telling him all that
Or wdym with random guy
So landing on Laugh Tale before the one piece arrives just gives you cancer, like Roger
And Whitebeard
I agree with this I think Roger may have only found Joyboy treasure there
Yeah and that keeps the message of wills being passed down through all different types of families and generations resonate harder when it’s not luffys family member that passes him his will , but his current mentors ancestor
lol Roger was sick before he landed on laugh tale
Are we saying someone other than Toki sent it lol
.... The second time
Maybe her , maybe her previous user before her
I’ll just post it
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Time travel just breaks everything fun in manga
For me it’s only if it breaks logic , going backwards breaks logic
Im not watching a morj video, im afraid
Forward is just a type of teleporting lol
So what are we to make of Shanks’ dismayed expression
I don’t usually either trust
For me it's just that the mangaka can asspull anything they need into the story
Premises cant be boring
Only execution
Luffy is joyboy turned into a baby and sent into the future
I think this
He's fucking with Bartolomeo
also he was un devil fruited
Has to actually look bad after all
Holy death December , Batman
Whatever you wanna call it
community, book club, whatever
Would be much better off if we prioritized talking about how premises can be made interesting in execution
I didnt see this ping
Stopping at premises just ruins the point of what we’re doing here imo
I think it’s quite lame
I thought about this for a second. And I agree with you
A ridiculous premise can be great with great execution
If meek doesnt like this video, it may potentially be worth watching, because it means morj is not doing his normal thing
@vital heart what's your opinion

Beast shouldn't watch it. He should READ it
Meek say you hate it
Last thing we need is Mr. Beast reaction video of Arlong Park
Never thought about the OP being the "forbidden sun" til now. Great theory. Just wondering though: if VP made the mother flame as a suitable replacement to this OG sun, if the OP truly were the original infinite sun, then wouldn't it feel not as special, when we would then have effectively 2 suns in the world?
Is this related to the video
Just going back to what I said earlier about Shanks potentially have a more sinister/insidious side to him
If Shanks ends up related to Joy Boy, Oda could have that - or any trait really - be a sharp contrast to who Joy Boy was
It emphasizes that inherited will isn’t tied strictly to bloodlines. It also shows how inherited will can be diluted and twisted and bent out of shape through time
And then characters like Luffy and Roger who inherited JB’s will seemingly wholesale and independently emphasize how inherited will can also persevere and remain intact
this is not true at all lol, a premise can absolutely not work that’s part of the pitching idea business
Easy way to make that premise interesting
mr beast reaching sabaody
I’ve been engaging with the OP community for like
Ten years now
This is by far the least thoughtful it’s ever been
Yeah it is, I am not sure about how to feel on his conclusion as to what the one piece actually is , but I just like the idea that the one piece was flung into the future , on its own
I’d like to see that change back
Okay, then meek liked the video. In conclusion: The video is not worth my time.
I don’t believe that because any premise can be made interesting with creative execution

agenda piece
Waiting for Godot is a classic comedy
Bad execution
Ive heard a different version of this a few years ago that I like better than what I think this video says
Roger indeed didnt find the One Piece, only what Joyboy explained and maybe something that could prepare/nurture whatever the One Piece is
He laughs and goes on to inspire the entire world to go after the One Piece. People start dreaming about the One Piece, it becomes their desire. And by that, just like how devilfruits are born from the dreams of the people, the One Piece is born.
By doing what Roger did on the first page of One Piece, the One Piece started to exist in the first place. Thats why Roger was too early, but his importance in the whole thing still cannot be understated.
This would probably also lead to the One Piece fulfilling the dream of whoever finds it, and since we know Luffys dream doesnt end at finding the One Piece, thats how his dream comes true
It’s premise is two niggas waiting at a bus stop
It sounds incredibly dull
Decades later, it’s taught in schools
Like I said tho , I’ll never fully commit on any idea on what the one piece actually is, I just like the idea of it being sent there from the past
The limitations of storytelling is far too boundless for us to be stopping at premises
Especially a series like OP
We should all be encouraged to use our imaginations s little bit more
Otherwise what’s the point of this
I CAPTURED 20 SLAVES TO SELL TO MY VIEWERS
Which ties to how devil fruits came to be? I could see that being possible somehow …
If that’s was the case , that would be HUGELY David Lynchian lmao they created a tulpa
Genuinely if MrBeast gets into OP, I'm gonna go for a TCB x MrBeast collab. Get my name out there. I'll build a brand. I'll become the next big influencer.
So when Brooks opens the one piece chest, it'll be full of panties?
Based off what i saw in #manga , it looks like there's a trend to post that exact tweet
Was amazing
Moby Dick is about a guy who’s real mad at a whale
Another example that popped to mind
Shueshia gonna nuke you from orbit bro
Fresh Prince is about a guy who moved cause he got beat up
Another bare bones ass premise
The show is goated
My mom watches the remake on peacock that’s 100% more darker and grittier with the same premise
Carlton for example is a coke fiend
Yeah and Oda could go bizarre with this too
I was about to say
For example yeah
I heard they do coke in that one lmao
I typed a long ass beautiful paragraph in response to this talking about stories and execution but deleted it. Idk why, sorry Sharon.
But yeah there’s no such thing as boring premises
Like sure, a premise can sound boring, objectively
But all that is to say
It doesn’t matter if it does
chase that bag meek remember me when you make it big
What matters is how it’s played out
but you do have a point tho about creative execution
Bro called you Sharon
It’s a ruse
For that is Sharon's name
Shuron knows who he is
Sharona from Monk
Yeah I definitely picture sharona monk when Shuron talks
mr beast is gonna start one piece
bro is gonna create an irl model of the grandline
Bro not watching everything
We already know
😭

Oh, you mean the same thing he has also done in the 20 years before Elbaf? Shocker
Stop giving him engagement bait
You know of Monk? 👁️
Sure
20 years build up on usopp as elbaf being his special arc and he does nothing. Even that would be diabolical in oda standard

Dw, Oda will give all players their time on Elbaf, you just have to be patient. We're still in the rising action stage
Oh, You talking about that Tony Shalhoub detective show?
I have been patient since dressrosa
Do you expect fights or do you expect an emotional character moment?
This is a long manga, Robin fans waited even longer. We were rewarded for our patience.
I expect something.
Since usopp fighting style now trash. It's better be character defining moment
Nobody want to see usopp plant attack anymore
What was the Robin payoff?
If he ever gets a 1v1 it’s gonna be using ragnir 
Reuniting with Saul?
Trust in goda
Usopp better steal it from loki, idc.
Just change his fighting style
Starting with Wano in with Black Maria, Saul reveal and then reunion. We been waiting since Enies Lobby tbh for another truly significant moment.
Usopp has been using hammers all this time , this hammer if it’s really flying around on its own could just make itLOOK LIKE Usopp is holding it
yeah and the Black Maria fight
Sanji also went through shit for years, One Piece fans always forget this (or there are always new ones but the old ones dont tell them either)
Usopp kills Loki, inherits his hammer and devil fruit, becomes king of the Giants. Plausible
Saul is controversial imo.
It's can be either good or bad depending how you see it
Personally oda shouldn't have revived saul
Either way, you get the Black Maria stuff, even if you're unhappy with Saul stuff
Sanji destroyed his power up 😄
Usopp LIES about using the hammer, but ragnir would be supporting the lie
W
Please goda
i lvl 5
Ill be honesy
Yeah people were unhappy with him for years until the Queen fight
Happy Christmas Harry
I just dont want usopp using ragnir
Sanji fans were downbad from timeskip until WCI 😭
Usopp lied about taking down 10 giants figure in skypiea
But it's never happened in wano

freaking hater
That’s different , Usopp has lied with a hammer like twice by now
You want to see another plant attack of usopp
Why? Tired of lying hammers?
yep lol these people act like a character not doing something they want for 10 years is new
It nobody wants this
Never found the idea Interesting
Usopp plant attack against page one was garbage
It’s not like he can be useful otherwise
Let's be real
Same for the whole usopp lies and it becomes true
I can beat up Usopp
We need power up
Well the 2 fights in which Usopp used hammers are top 2 fights in the series so a hammer would be bueno
I would rather he have his own moveset instead of stealing someone else's weapon
Yeah I’m cool with it , it’s a natural evolution lol
Magic hammer that works with him lol
No matter what oda need to do usopp justice in elbaf, if he want to save his manga from being stupid
he wouldnt steal it hed just receive a weapon

His toolset is cheeks
I dont see loki giving up ragnir
Oda better lock in bro
Everyone always wants him to get something else
I know
And I agree
Well he has 2
He doesnt...
I don't think he getting ragnir either
When Usopp beats Imunko with Ragnir, Loki will see Usopp is worthy 
There is 1 ragnir
Here's my theory. Nika needs 4 wings like a butterfly. Not 2 like a pigeon.
Zoro, Sanji, Usopp, Sabo
I am talking about hammers in general
Depends how ragnir functions , loki could either team up with them or Ragnir could decide it on its own
penny and Socrates’ worst nightmare
Yasopp black gun which has eternal ammos clad with haki
Based on the fact that ragnir moved itself, I feel like it chose loki
This is sorta funny and who invited Sabo 
It looks like attacking , maybe it tests people first
ragnir was defending the devil fruit 
Now it's time to choose Usopp. 
Boring
Sorry, not Sabo. Bon Chan!
So glue
https://x.com/cinnabrit/status/2003644746678636947?s=20 why is everyone talking about one piece, who is this person?
Usopp god hammer will impress all the giants , even Loki will bow
He will be their king
A streamer iirc
Brace yourselves, the new One Piece wave is coming
Bandwagoning
Look how they ask instead of decide for themselves
chat do I start one piece chat
Thankfully I dont use #anime and am no longer staff so I dont have to have any concerns about that channel. I am safe. 🧘♂️
Just bury them with spoilers
No
Nobody watching one piece all the way through
they are drilled to always talk to an imaginary chat
is this true chatbox
Bro is Sengoku
Shanks has an evil twin brother sometimes and blackbeards dad looks like skinny Blackbeard and also died to the king of the world
Them: what?…
No, do the mundane ones.
Indeed
Aw
spoil them on zoro’s father being pinzoro
My friends saw your icon while I was streaming my laptop and were like "who is Marin are you getting catfished by discord kittens YC"
So true , it’s just Chinese bots mostly 😔
All of these spoilers sound made up without context
That’s the joke
lmao
does this one not
Kuma's favorite food is honey
Oh it totally does my bad
Didn’t mean to make it sound like it’s not lol
this York icon might be going soon
end of an era…
people keep dming me stuff
yeah
Rizz
You’re extremely male
Oh yeah I had that
i even added the he/him on my profile to see if stops
Wow
Hey, me too
What
i am
i still think it's a mix of girl on avatar + anime girl name
she stole my name thats unfair
the cloud logia is the biggest indicator
I forgot that one girl was called that
I dont connect the name with her at all anymore






