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half of those are not going in his mouth
Honestly this is a case of Occam’s razor. Loki is more likely to be using observation like fujitora than have eye powers
I think he either had VoAT/Haki/or Special Eye powers that allow him to see past his bandages
It’s just some thing that would be highlighted normally
yeah like 99% chance its just observation
^
It's even easier than that, he can just see normally
but it would be funny if he could just see through it
We literally know he can
Yeah plus Oda bandages characters in a way where they have eye-holes to see through
It's extremely wild. But iirc, that only happened with Mihawk and Luffy during MF. Plus him having a power like that would prove why he has the hawkeyes/clairvoyant titles.
That’s also more plausible than eye powers
does loki know what hajrudin looks like
The eyes maybe ? But haki doesn’t feel like a thing here
bullying based on just vibes
his eyes been covered
Its his brother
And?
Even loki know shamrock looks like shanks
Shanks can shut off other people future sight
Mihawk can activate future sight in other people
Oda going way too far with the parallels 😭
..
and the only person who could stop it is Shanks since he is the only one confirmed to have "killer of observation" haki
good question
Loki can see. We know he knew Sham had red hair. Loki can see everything
thats even more shocking
tried to look for it and this is all I could find, I thought there was more but this is it lol
loki just has x ray eyes
I didn't even think of this but fr
loki can see even tho his eyes are covered
Nah youre just wrong and you're doubling down instead of admitting it
He can clearly see
IF this is the haki Mihawk has, Zoro definitely has to get killer of observation haki or he's fucking dead
when will mihawk use his iconic eye killing power
Laww I need you to go on somewhere with that bullshit
Oda used to draw so much sweat in those chapters

Wasn’t gunko eating with the mask on?
yeah
brother what are you talking about. I asked if he knows what hajrudin looks like because iirc he's had bandages over his eyes his whole life, whats got you so angry 😭
Sweat scaling
For characters that are heavily bandaged on their heads, they always have eye openings for them to see. This is likely because they can't just see through the bandages on default. Loki probably has an enlightened awareness or observation ability that allos him to do this

Then why is this a debate 
give it some time smh
Best panel in the arc
Bro literally read newspaper 😭
If you can just see through bandages, no reason to give any character openings in the eyes
Fujitora is different
I sweat more than you
Hes blind bljnd
fujitor can see outline with haki
will we ever find out what Oda was cooking with this
we still dont know who Red Eyes is
I don't know about all that. Oda probably will just say, "he learned how to" or something
It's possible that Loki has more effective Observation powers than Fujitora
Oda needs to do a reread
Imu
He's wearing sea stone
ez fix, morgans just infuses his paper with haki
Loki read newspaper
Old Red Eyes was imitating Mihawk
does she just pull it down every time
Def a throwaway joke or he just forgot
It’s in your throat
at Baratie?
huh, i forgot about those stupid rocks
I don't know about all that. Oda probably will just say, "he developed powers at a young age" or something
hype
painter rocks...
Even Imu wants to eat sometimes
no it goes through the gaps in the banadge
what if luffy found a mysterious painterly rock
he really likes Zeff's cooking I guess
Probably something like that
Inb4 he uses adv observation to see 0.1 seconds into the future at all times and that’s how he can see
ms goldenweek taught rocks to paint after the god valley incident gave him amensia
Good theory
I doubt that it was a joke because it seems hyper specific, I guess he just forgot
I should've said that dangit
The answer is clearly yes goofy
That would finally make Rocks a good character
🐌
The thing is, we know as a child and a young woman, she didn't wear a mask. This is only after she started serving Imu
did it hurt your feelings that I asked if he knows what hajrudin looks like
You mean Hajrudin
You mean Hajrudin
You mean Hajrudin
You mean Hajrudin
You mean Hajrudin
You mean Hajrudin
Nah its not that
You just asked a dumb question
You mean Hajrudin
so your feelings are hurt
Laww you put Hajrudin instead of Harald btw I hope you fix it
you nice hajrudin 
She looks happy while eating. This is foreshadowing her actually being good
its okay
Nah I just want you to stfu for a second
Why is every discussion with Laww so heated
I aint even do nun
Bro is a negative nancy
Its not law
Bro literally just asking 😭
hes upset I asked if loki knows what hajrudin looks like
Lol
You mean Laww
Laww is my boy
wait does that mean sommers will be extra good then
Don’t diss
It isn't him this time 
Sorry
His style of arguing just brings out the worst in people
He asked me if Loki knows what his brother that he grew up with looks like
the sommers redemption will go crazy
No shit?
wasnt even arguing 
True he lowk pisses me off
How do you redeem this
mind you I didnt ask you lol
Kidding ily Laww
Yeah, i mean maybe its a follow up question? Idk
excellent question!
You mean Lawwk
You and him both are annoying tbh
Idk what it's about but it's probably Rich being rude
Crossfire
Is that a challenge?
No
I made a general question on the topic of lokis bandages over his eyes, I didnt ask you specifically 😭
A general question
It's splash damage at this point.
Oda drew jack sparrow for Johnny depp
I answered
This one piece stuff gets serious around here
That’s why bro gave us a half finished chapter
Maybe Toei will let bro make an appearance
Okay richy
I forgot yassap shot barto and his crew
very good episode
Is this officiall
Yes
Trueeee
Yo cool
Soon
Unbound Loki
Bro is NOT Marika
me when i plug the marika photo into chat gpt
Imu could be
What’s next loki on a crucifix?
he actually might get crucified
Looks like they gave Loki melanin
Not too far away
we saw them do it to road for a bit so why not loki too
Road gets crucified for 10 minutes and then it's all good
oh i forgot he literally did
shouldve left him on there
Here is the picture normally
he looks so short
Yonko equivalent
did you recreate that with AI lol, it doesnt look the same
Arguing with law feels like I’m arguing with my mother
Oda drew it
Not to say that’s particularly bad but it does have a certain feel to it
It’s just like arguing with bean feels like I’m arguing with my father
Lmfao
Bro we are not your family 😭
which estranged family member of yours am I illya
Bean x Laww and their child is Illya
But you're like my sibling...
We all know sb is ur lil brother
wait im not
Yes yes I understand. But they talk in a certain type of way that makes it feel like I’m being disciplined.
That is so true. Have you ever argued with doom?
We are not ending the fb at Harald’s death lmao
Well it looks like we are and Sb is our little brother
Mippy is like...
I don’t even know who that is
I’m the cool alcoholic uncle
I dunno, talking with Mippy is like those times in Malcolm in the Middle when the brothers get along to do something absolutely unhinged.
If we don't end the flashback at Harald's death it's so over 😭
I like that.
Good for you tbh. If you think bean and law discipline. Then doom straight up beats you with a belt
Viz’s translation lowkey makes it look like we going back to present elbaf lol
Idm if we end at the incident
Doom beats you with a belt with the buckle side out.
And then circle back later
I thought you were around when he was here
After reading the latest chapter I realize that harald could've made defensive pacts with unaffiliated wg nations
You just gave me a perfect example of why it won’t end on it
I miss Doom.
Me too Steph. Me too
its ending at Harald's death because its the Harald story that we're here for
No in mind to be honest
I lowk want more Loki focus
Doom is the one we need the most in these desperate times
He vanished when the world needed him the most
I may have been. But if I was he never made an impression I suppose.
@urban lodge whos doom
Former mod
Who do you want him to ban
I think we gonna get Loki going out to the sea
A former mod
I’ve reached reason number 26! :D
did i just see loki marika
Do I have to say it
Surely you still don’t hold a grudge against Hathor
He’s been inactive
Children don't know about Doomspeaker, this server is doomed. And spoken.
Nah , I think it means let us return to the Harald incident story , it would be really stupid to skip it when that’s Lokis whole intent on telling the fb to the people around him right now , not any of the other shit we just saw with rocks
remember how this fb started? It started with loki approaching Harald’s room
Just don’t fall into extremes
I’ll come back as mod. I’m in my villain phase rn. You thought doom was bad?
Ragnir is invincible
I've never seen someone break so many rules on a daily basis and get away with it, plus he really loved insulting me so yes I do
Wanna see it again
no
this was Doom
if anything loki would be radahn
Ok
It’s just saying “let’s circle back to where this fb started from” essentially
Thats Jack
Most accurate depiction
Kaido has already taken that spot
no thats Doom, who is Jack?
saying someone is like jack feels like one of the worst insults you could give
Save the Mod Society... Mippity Mop!!
Jack the drought
Jack had aura, you guys dont get it
heavy emphasis on had
The server is in need of…. A cleansing!!
past tense
Aura debt
Whenever chat was being illiterate, aye.
Let’s start with your name
Ok earl is the first to go
if someone isnt ultra yonko ACoC 3 user he has no aura according to the fans now
Jack did have massive aura
can you really compare wano jack to 1 billion beri man jack
but Jack certainly had Aura
Not his fault a giant practically immortal elephant kicked him
morgans has no haki as far as we know but has the most aura out of anyone in the series
We abt to get loki vs bb at FMI
why?
jack mightve been the most confident character in the series and you have to respect that
Oh yeah for sure I doubt we ending it
For like one arc
If Mosa is Shirahoshi and BB is why she's in danger
eh he lost just as much as he did in Wano lol, just against stronger people
Maybe
Seriously harald was such a fool for wanting to forsake the warrior spirit of elbaf
True and he beats up cipher pol pretty regularly
because BB will go to FMI to get poseidon, and Loki and shirahoshi are good friends
The most confident is Kidd
Noone beats Kidd ego
maybe, if that gets confirmed
yep this is what i think will happen
Hm alr
He was not.
Me too ngl
i dont see how loki or sh in general could respond, fmi is at least weeks away, maybe months. SH/Loki cant warp
I wouldn't mind a Loki vs BB fight
His heart was in the right place but he forgot to use his brain
nah jack thought he could take on sengoku, tsuru and fujitora at sea (with a mammoth zoan) and rescue doflamingo
If Shaggyhoshi isn't a red herring, Blackbeard trying to take Shirahoshi will be how we get Shanks vs BB
at sea as well
Blackbeard would probably manage to defeat Loki if it came down to it
True if Loki were there he'd only see the very long aftermath
Feel like Oda is gonna have that happen to see who is the true inheriter of Rocks will
Wasn’t he didn’t know who’s on that ship 😭
Shoot for the moon, and if you fail, you’ll land among the stars
Loki would probably win against Blackbeard
(It's Buggy)
Ye he will or something happens leading to BB having to leave
lost to Zunesha, lost to Fuji/Sengoku/Tsuru, would've lost to Inu and Neko if he wasnt using poison gas and they were united for a singular goal
@steel stirrup Yeah wanting peace is not a bad thing but elbaf by nature is a warrior country
FMI is luffy’s territory
Its Buggy indeed
or Blackbeard just asking to recruit Loki
though i don't know how that would go
I don't think the final villian wwill lose to loki
Its not anything by nature. Culture can change
It should be luffy’s job to defend shirahoshi
FMI isnt Luffy's territory, they didnt declare it
luffy HATES fmi
I think there will be a crazy intersection of wills between Loki, Shanks, and Blackbeard
Even the warriors of Elbaph were very receptive to the change
That'd be the coolest imo
Luffy is nowhere near FMI though, and Shanks is on the move looking for BB
Luffy said that he was going to declare FMI as his territory when he beats BM but yknow
things happened
Back when YC actually really strong
nah loki would lose against bb for sure. Forget feats, use plot armor. BB is so much more plot armored than loki.
If only one can make it out of the confrontation and its between the series long villian main character dark mirror or some prince of the giants who became important 50 chapters ago, its obvious whos making it out
People keep saying that he was unaware of how the WG behaves but I beg to differ.
I see
@distant vine I mean look, this left for holy knights to invade
Buggy is cyan
@sage temple And luffy is red
if Blackbeard encountered Loki, he'd probably just end up trying to get his fruit
given it's legendary status
Lol
Luffy isn't Red.
One Piece Film is.
@bleak plover yes he is red
Wouldn't he do the same for Luffy
If Elbaph was a warrior nation rn the same exact thingw would happen
I don't buy that
Red is his standard color@bleak plover
I doubt Loki or Luffy would lose to Blackbeard anyway
NOTHING would change, except for that the kids dont go to school
Well Harald would be alive in this scenario but take him out and its the same
That’s some major Loki glaze
Not really
Both Loki and Luffy have legendary fruits
its really easy to predict bb's fights. Against anyone other than luffy, bb wins
luffy v bb is so destined that any fight before that has to be a bb victory
It's kinda werid to say Blackbeard will only take Loki's and not Luffy's if he goes against both
Bb wont take loki
Bb will saw loki as an ally
I’m not gonna make judgements until I see Loki do something
Forget offscreen haki, Blackbeard has destiny haki
Luffy probably will lose atleast one round to BB tho I am sure
Bloodline haki is op
You won't be dissapointed, he was trained by rocks (headcanon)
I feel like people underestimate bb quite a bit. Esp after the encounter with ray
Yeah and then he teams up with Koby for Round 2
And also especially how the whole GV part of the flashback was just to upscale blackbeard
no, since Luffy is the protagonist
Luffy losing his legendary fruit and winning on his own merit seems better to me. Let BB steal the Nika fruit
If that was yer reading of God Valley I don't know what to tell ya.
Just don't kill Luffy to do it
Idk Loki seems too important to have his fruit taken by BB
Blackbeard is the man to inherit the will of Davy
i don't know what any of these Speed gifs mean, i'll be honest
loki vs jack who wins
I dunno what Speed is in this context.
Everything Xebec did was to upscale BB in this flashback
Loki beat an immortal. Jack has beaten...
There ain’t no way Loki loses to bb
Jack beat the ocean floor allegations 
Jk
Bum
Ye, in the mural an ancient giant that looks like loki fought Imu, so loki will be present at the final war
Loki has a bunch of stuff that puts him already as one of the most important characters and it'd just be inconvenient for Oda to kill him
BB i doubt kills Loki
Him beating Harald already puts him in the conversation for top 10
True especially since he was the main fighter against a buffed Harald in the castle
Loki is a character who could die, but it's unclear where he dies at
if he dies it will be the war against Imu
Everybody is a character who could die 
Bb gonna tell loki his dream to become king of the world
Then this scene happens.. he saw bb like xebec 
Yeah
Yeah probably if anywhere
Well, yes. But I'm talking about him being a warrior, specifically Viking, who were known for dying in battle. And he'd probably enjoy that, on top of letting his death make amends for some of the things he did in his past life
Loki dying in battle is not a slight 
didn't Loki himself say something about that
It is evidence of supreme masculine virtue if anything
And living up to Viking ideals
Maybe? I vaguely recall him mentioning something like that
Lowkey how Usopp should go out
Been saying
Loki and usopp dying in battle would be kinda peak
Wild message to come back to.
Yeah sure but I expect him to die later in his life*
usopp will die in elbaf
Didn't Usopp say something about dying alone on an island in Little Garden
He's only 63 right now and I feel like he'd need to be at least 100 for Oda to find a place to kill him off
Who will fought augur ?!
Since it's be inconvenient currently anyway
He isn't dying here of course lol
Yea ight
He's going to be around for the final war
loki should die too
He needs to die though because Kaya doesn't deserve to get the Banchina treatment
Hey feeso
Viz is out yeah?
yup
I was excited to check it this week
Get yourself a man who wont ever be around
When you try to make a point about a character dying and people automatically interpret it as being adversarial or you "dislking the character" 
Did they redraw Elbaf? To Elbaph?
sometimes dying is the best thing for a character
Simply because you advocate for them dying
theyre not real people with actual welfare to care about
Think Luffy should have taken Kaya for the ship doctor?
kid fans need to understand that
Otohime comes to mind
Take merry too to be the crews chef
Not with the way he died
Or rather, if he had died
Too late
Wait they didn’t change it??
viz is a fraud
Dying is a sign of fraudulence
i think it woulda been a fine ending for kid i dunno i do think its a complete arc.
Hes like luffy, reckless. Made it very far into the new world. But hes not the main character and eventually ran into a situation where recklessness was the wrong choice and got punished for it, bad
So wb…
"Death is what completes a person"
People want Kid fans to take his loss, lose their spirit and give up liking him like good boys, Kid fans are Luffys in a world of Kaidos
Khalid HATES Rocks
World’s fastest man? Yeah

We put the opposite parts in brackets
It's crazy I damn near saw this exact same sentence recently in a book I was reading about the samurai on what they thought of death
Hagakure translation
I saw it in Vinland saga, or was it vagabond as well
It’s some sort of Viking/samurau ideal
Evil Cygorg Zombie Rocks would be kinda hype ngl
if kid wants to lick his wounds, do a 2 year time skip, get stronger, and compete for the next era, thatd be great for him.
If kid is going to get back up and running to the point where hes a major factor in the 3-6 weeks of in-universe time remaining in the story, im gonna be a little annoyed
I may watch vinland saga after I finish reading these books
God I wish I could free Stephen and allow him to use the word marine
Been meaning to pick up vagabond too
It’s a great story
Totally missed this was umit before lol
Cruise ship might be better than TCB, although I’m not sure about the logistics of just one of them
I doubt we’ll ever return to this point
But I feel like there would be multiple with 200 nations
The cruise ship will be the Noah eos
You would know that because I pointed it out but you got me blocked
But I pointed ts out when the chapter dropped
did you guys see the Bonnika punch
I am seeing the clip now, and I am sure I am not tripping but
I may have cried
No I dont watch the anime
toei moment
Woei
@steel stirrup what did you do to get blocked again?
Toei piece
fuck it give the 10 year old acoc
I assumed that was the lightning from Saturn but either way im cool
why not
It's probably harder to find people who haven't blocked Rich
You tell me
We rarely talk
Bonney is already like top 5 in her generation at 12
a few frames later
Bonney wull probably unlock conquerors soon
I don’t remember doing it lol
She might have the craziest growth
move aside luffy
She is beating Vice Admirals at age 12
I usually only block people if they attacked someone or said something racist
It’s possible it was an accident
Since I usually remember lol
just incredible
This would be Loei
I definitely didn't do the latter
If it puts Bonney above Zoro I'll believe it's canon
bonney could be stronger than zoro
Bonney is a child trying to find her dad. She's not a conqueror
Okay consider yourself unblocked lol
But I’m watching you!
I think she can hit a higher high but she would lose a straight up fight
One tapping VAs tbh
unfortunately that requirement for having coc is long since dead
Usopp coc soon too btw
It's happening, it might be good or it might be ass but it is happening
Zoro would still win because of experience but power wise yea I think her being able to change into a God is a huge buff
Don't see bonney as a conq candidate
Definitely closer to the Japanese but I like the line we had
I do not want this to happen lol and I've made it abundantly clear
bonney is stronger than zoro easily
I see the angle though, I cannot lie
I know Music, but it's gonna happen I think
Well her dad is either Garling or Shamrock so she even if she doesn't have CoC she'll have very strong CoA
don’t worry usopp you’re already a brave warrior of the sea
you don’t need to prove yourself
Worst possible ending for Usopp's character
Ooh I like this more
"Oh you were brave the whole time hahaha" that's shit
its sad that oda would probably do that
real bravery is knowing when to run away 
It's definitely gonna be the dumb you've always been brave shit
Are you one of the people who think Usopp should die
That would be like Zoro offscreening Mihawk
It's sickening but it's inevitable
I give it to Viz on this one as well. No disrespect to TCB
I’m not sure Harald changing is the point here
it won’t happen but god this would be so funny
Well, I woudln't know how accurate it is. But I like it more
I am if you're talking to me lol
building up to zoro’s goal for over a thousand chapters then off screening it
It was a general question
Why tho?
It'd be good for him. I honestly think it's the best way to validate that he achieved his dream.
I would laugh after I finish throwing glass bottles
I'm making 15 video essays about op falling off if it does happen
He is brave
“was one piece ever good? a retrospective”
people are not ready for Usopp's arc
whats that one Bleach video
What would you even want to see in a Zoro mihawk duel? The two clashing their swords then long flashback then Zoro one shotting?
the Fall of Bleach?
Im so scared. If Oda doesnt cook...
didn’t we already get a the fall of one piece
calling it building up is kinda stretching too because it was only mentioned once or twice in the entire series
I guess so yeah
They make videos like that on most shonen, I hope someone made that type of video on jjk by now
Bravery isn't the absence of fear, it is fear being overcome.
Usopp is definitely brave
we did yeah, it was horrible lol
Mihawk doesn't have anything to make a fight with Zoro interesting. It will probably just come down to bigger haki wins
Hes been brave this whole time
He wants to be like the warriors of Elbaph, who he views as being models of what it means to be a brave warrior. In some way he sacrifices himself for the better of Luffy's dream. It would be cool if the Elbaph giants gave him traditional funeral rites and blessings, and acknowledge that he ascends to Vahalla for acting like a drengr — the ideal viking
tldr lets kill him with hammers
You know Oda is writing this story right?
Fighting into the death out of utmost loyalty to his friends
I understand tho
i think it’s safe to say no strawhats will be dying other than like brook finally passing on at the end
this isn’t that kind of story
oda never kill a strawhat
If Usopp gets told he was "brave this whole time" and his behavior by then is identical to how it's been the entire series then like I'm just gonna say Oda completely fumbled Usopp
No disrespect taken. We can’t be superior every line 😉.
(But for real, these chapters are complicated and there’s many things to consider and 1100 chapters worth of context, so there’s no shot any tl can be definitive without some hindsight. For every time I clown on viz for Mother Frame or having Harald predict his own death by Loki, we have our own issues like having Dragon’s crew massacred. (Things which aren’t grammatically wrong but wrong by context) . It’s why it’s worth checking the other version, even if you have a preference
Like I'm not accepting that as passable
Yea Oda can barely stand to kill of side characters
Him killing off one of his main characters seems inconceivable
I'm surprised he even killed the ship
It's funny that you mention this too. I was going to maybe do a write up about how I think Oda handled Elbaph. There's a certain liteary tradition that exists in Viking culture that I feel like Oda could've maybe tried to have incorporate in the Elbaph arc but he didn't, but that's for another time. I might put it in #manga-serious in case anyone cares to read it lol
If Merry is still alive I will drop
Ping me when u do
The Klabautermann carried over
Like if I see that ship roll around to the final war it's cooked
I feel like if The Sunny had a Klabautermann, Franky would've found it by now the way hes always repairing and upgrading the ship
remember scrumblo the loveable grunk from orange town? he’s fighting sommers
"Harald predict his own death by Loki" can you explain this one please?
I like some of the dialogue choices that y'all make and prefer it on many occasions lol
It only shows itself some time before the ship is destroyed though doesn't it?
That im not sure of
Reading both is good I think though. Just for overall comprehending the story
Surely ida knows he’s asked many times? She was told he asks every time he’s back in the country
My assumption was those only appear when its the end for your ship
The Sunny is healthy
Syrup usopp was the bravest he's ever been
Yeah, Viz has Harald be the one to make the prophecy about him dying to a son’s hand. Which isn’t accurate with the context of the flashback
Well by that logic, with Franky around, I dare say the Sunny will never have a Klabautermann
not confirmed per se but thats how it was for Merry, it repaired it when the ship needed repairs really badly
harald would rather become a wg slave than try to marry his woman
Oda already covered his fakeout death for Merry, by introducing the Mini Merry
He was going to take on the black cat pirates by himself to save a village that had just kicked him out
Ragebait
why are the elders fine with changing the country’s entire culture and tradition but they draw the line at marriages
I hate he's gonna die with that regret
It's not the same tho
good
racismo
All they care about is the Ancient Giants they see as superior remaining in charge it seems
They allow Harald a good amount of freedom because he is the rightful king. But a marriage would validate Hajrudin who is not a pureblood
As long as thats the line theyll respect the king's wishes
It's less that they are against Harald and more they are against Hajrudin
@index
In that sense the world nobles are more tolerant. Shanks and Shamrock are both half bloods but they were easily accepted. Shanks being accepted despite being a pirate for 24 years
I don't think they are but I asked someone a similar question. We don't see them a whole bunch of hooting and hollering about him making all these major cultural changes and they haven't caused a civil war over that, but they'd spaz tf out if he married a foreigner? lol.
@distant vine
it actually seems like shanks didnt really make a name for himself yet
Bonney is more likely to get CoC than Sanji and Usopp
Japanese doesn’t strictly speaking specify who made the prophecy
The Hajrudin hate, man 
Lol how did TCB translate that?
I clown him too sometimes. I can't lie
Sanji CoC deniers in current year
Ah I see
Like this
If it was prophesied that Harald would be killed by his own son prior to Lokis birth that would infer people thought Hajrudin would be the killer
It’s definitely the biggest viz issue I remember from this arc
Idk if Oda should have had that line at all lol
Outside of more minor stuff like knockout gas becoming tear gas
Not really. A prince denied the right to rule killing his father seems consistent
It kinda distracts. But I guess if its a rumor made in hindsight it would work
Im talking assuming they mean Loki
It was probably changed to be Loki later on. But if it was before his birth Haj would be the natural target
kinda funny how harold fought so hard to change their warrior culture but not their pure blood obsession
The expression she uses in Japanese is about eating rice day after day
I imagine it was an out of context prophecy
And it means “ X is keeping me alive”
More worried about how other nations feel about elbaf than how the people of elbaf feel about themselves
So it’s interesting viz kept it about food
Clearly one is easier to change than the other
surely
Did that land for ppl? I worry stuff like that needs to be spelled out more sometimes
I got her point
Wait she said that the kind words would keep her alive for months and then dies mid conversation?
Gen Z is cancelling Ida for dying
Known is better than demented here. My wording was too strong
She lied 
rokaya are you a haraldfan or idahead
Neither
I don’t understand why viz has him swap between mu and I
Okay maybe I lean a little toward Ida ig
How strong do yall think Tsuru is
W Idahead
i think this works
Depends on how weak Sengoku is
Better than any vice admiral outside of Garp
Idk kinda strong
So take that how you will
Like youre everyones "uncle tom"
That ain't a particularly high bar to clear
Probably weaker than jinbe but above the middle trio
i hear it occasionally
If Goku is actually strong Tsuru didn't need to do anything. If he's average or weak she soloed Jack
Doflamingo level
Isn’t that like a slur? lol
Max upscaling
No
Doffy level seems fair
It can be denigrating though
Not a slur but its definitely used as an insult
Good to know
I mean it's basically someone of an oppressed group capitulating to whoever is oppressing them
Yeah lol
Since when is the c word a slur lmao
🦝
But it also has connotation beyond that
even if it can be used in the same way
yeah thats ture
One from racist and one from the in-group
the other way is antiquated though
Harald seems even slower here lol
cunt?
We're not talking about cunt 
no otherwise all aussies would be vanished
Yes but not something applicable to all minority/oppressed groups
Wait there’s another c word? Lmao
well the bot didn't mute me this time so its not a slur
Oh I should’ve used Prince not lord lolz. That’s a silly mistake
I can only think of one slur with C but idk if thats the one u guys are talking about
Oh yeah, accursed prince
Wise my ass lol
Okay
Viz was cool this week
Nothing to really update other than that comma and maybe switch lord to prince
Yeah I think that suits him better
But when those titles were picked it was before we knew much bout Harald
Well they do now
W Harald
So I can’t blame Stephen
W Harald W G
That too lol
You know One Piece is fictional because if Harald was real he would be called an evil woke traitor for not wanting giants to slaughter people
Buggy will be God
Harald makes me mad because he acts like every teenager in a cheap horror movie. "Ohh let's go to the haunted house 12 orphans died in. There is fresh blood here even though they died 20 years ago and I can here screams but whatever we should split up guys" that's how he sounds in my head
I'm glad this is catching on
It’s very different from otohime in that way. I think everyone respects Harald and a lot understand his strength. Where as hody see otohime as weak
You guys are gonna summon the Harald Defense Squad
Nefeltari D Buggy
Otohime was mentally stronger than Harald though
otohime didn't sell her soul to the WG
Soup was better
these guys are almost as bad as Larp glazers
It’s weird because his story feels like a very simplistic fairy tale. Something Oda would’ve wrote way back in East Blue, like Gaimon… but in the greater context of Rocks and kings who were actually in an impossible spot like Riku, he just seems silly. Like Elbaf wasn’t in a bad spot, it wasn’t desperate, and Harald ignored every warning sign
Its genuienly insane to see people pretend harald either had to choose the world government or rocks
So now you really wanna set me off huh
Nah it wasnt WG or Rocks
And like oden was also gullible but at least there were lives that would be lost for sure if he acted differently and he got to go out like a champ. I don’t see Harald’s death being anywhere near as fondly remembered
It was WG or Warrior Elbaph
try me lmao
Warrior elbaf stopped because of haralds efforts internally
I probably need to reread the flashback, but what was warrior elbaf even like
raiding neighbors for profit/fun
They would go around to other countries and smash them
Feared by the world
And also have civil wars
Most importantly though, unlike older kings, Harald is wrong message wise. He went too extreme ditching warrior pride, even ida didn’t want that. So it’s not like we can say his ideas were good but ahead of their time. At best he had good intentions
I also feel like he convinces people too fast
yeah this narrative that he was protecting Elbaf is such nonsense bc the WG at no point previously was shown to target Elbaf or any other nation for that matter
I dont really have a problem with his goal its his methodology which was tragically bad
I do think part of the point is that Harald made mistakes
Even Dorry and Brogy don’t seem to have an issue with this new Elbaf and they’ve been gone for 100 years
I'll just also maintain he was in a bind
Yeah, I just can’t sympathize with him as much as I could due to the co text
But I guess part of the tragedy is how avoidable it was
Harald did it all to himself
But like compare Rocks to Harald here, and one of the friends had a much harder hand yet he fails less lol
Harald messing up? no way he only did whats best for his country. So what if he ignored Rocks warnings or all of the WG negative aspects to futher his goal. It's not like he met the devil incarnate and agreed to be his sevant or anything 
As soon as he did this it was over
He wanted to enrich the people of Elbaph's lives through cultural exchange. Sure Elbaph wasnt a dead country before but bad things happened to themselves and others
I hope the story doesn’t frame this as a good idea lol.
Hmm
Rocks didn't tell him shit
One person trying to burden the entire actions of his race is in itself silly
He said to go to war or something, thats a pretty good idea 
I think Harald figured that if he was going to stop the “warrior elbaf” then they wouldn’t survive unless they joined the WG. Attacking and raiding neighboring countries was probably how they were securing resources
i believe imu even tells him that lol
I kinda wish we got the more harsher less good Harald some of us were predicting. Not evil but maybe, he had a thing against Loki for reminding the world of the ancient giants he tried to remove
But eh
the problem is that what harald does behind closed doors they probably don't know about. Nore do they know what Harald has witnessed on his travels or Rocks warnings. Sure we the viewer have more context then harald but harald also knew more than the other giants. If that makes sense
Oh so now we're gonna criticize a ONE PIECE CHARACTER for being lofty now
This fb was more about rocks tbh
Sure
Fakest friendship of all time and Oda wants us to gaslight us into believing they were besties
Yeah makes sense
I just feel like even interms of social change
We’ve seen Oda do it better with otohime
And this should be a harder sell because the people here are less desperate
But they’re won over easier
Even those who lived as warriors for hundreds of years
no
i didn't consider it
Hajrudin has black hair so
who?
And I don’t think he got it from Ida
hajrudin having black hair while neither his dad or ida do would be so cinema
TRUE
Old be from the mother
goda
Outside of that pentagram he did take it all on himself in the end
I genuinely doubt it
has oda ever pulled a reverse queen?
where he gives them light hair but makes it black in the coloring?
Yeah this didnt cross my mind at all
yeah true. Everyone being on board with Elbaf changing in one generation feels a bit to sudden
Am I wrong? He showed zero positive interactions between them besides their first meeting
Harald said himself they were best friends bruh what more do you want😭
To see that
Harald works for me. He's someone who feels guilty for not only his race's action but his own ones, and they lead him to wanting change at any cost, even taking on the sins of betraying Rocks and joining with the WG.
He is naive about it, thats true. But I dont mind that
Show them having a drink or something
they were literally drinking together at idas bar
And it was all for nothing 
Yeah and Ida telling him to get better friends lol
wasnt this ironic
Why would it be
I think harald’s story is fine, just wish he was a little more discreet
It was not for nothing.
From her perspective he's a power hungry madman
Here you go
Bonus: Even Ida acknowledges that they are friends
If they wittnessed him ripping the horns out or if we just had a scene where they say they respect it, it’d make the transition feel better
I feel like compared to other races Giants actually have good relations with humans in modern day OP
Viz has a very different implication there but sure
"boundless strength" and its john giant
Trying to erase elbaf’s history and culture is not the way forward, even Ida told him that
Reality is being ignored?
Obviously they considered each others closest friend but it definitely would’ve been good to see them being a chummy
You definetly have to admit Harald changed Elbaph for the better and made the country happy
I choked on my drink bruh
Maaaan 
Ida said she liked warrior's pride. Not invading and pillaging other countries. Ida also says Harald made Elbaph better LMAO
harald did a great job but he took it too far
he did but he didn't have to get the WG to do all that
Both have her say that she’s a friend which she doesn’t approve of, although she is smiling so I think she’s partially teasing
Internally making elbaf better was all his work he never needed The WG for it
Both translations confirm that Harald and Rocks were friends, Penny.
Brother
Yeah and my point is that harald didn’t like the warrior’s pride stuff, he denounced pretty much every aspect of elbaf tradition and culture. Also Ida died before she saw what ended up happening
That's not what I'm arguing
he ipened the schools which the WG would have never approved of
I'm saying SHOW us them being friends
And what did end up happening? Every change she liked is intact
This flashback is already long enough
You the main one talking that "lets get back to the present" shit too
I don’t think Ida wanted elbaf to be neutered
Also they have a typical falling out saying they’re no longer friends
Idk why people keep saying that btw
You hated this flashback but now you think its necessary to show more flashback content?
They also work tighter escaping Mary Geoise
Elbaph's warriors are all there?
Their friendship is demonstrated
Why would I want Rocks to not be more of a real character
I think she namely said what she did because she doesn’t want Harald to be ashamed of who he is and where he comes from
Because you love hating him and that would take away ammo from you
Self hating giant
I don't want him to be a bad character, he simply is
Im sorry you feel that way
Wait why are we discussing this anyways rokaya
I already said Harald is self hating
I don’t think we disagree that much indi
Bro this is like the 5th time he’s tried to post this
They put that shit in quotes
Anyway, I didn't deny that they were friends, I'm saying Oda did a dogshit job at showing them being friends
Fuji over luffy?💔💔💔
Lmaooo
She admires Elbaphs culture, believed that people shouldn’t be ashamed of their roots and loved Harald. Basically why she said what she did
Theres a video with this one though is it true?
I disagree
if u take this shit serious its on u tbh
Nope
Dragon is not a D. People just stutter when they say his name
Oh ok
The acc that posted that is a mihawk goon
He is
Monkey D dragon
Mihawk at #2 immediately lost me
This is funny ngl
My joke!!!
dragon is adopted
Harald: "I accept. One small thing though... we're not actually wa-"
Gorosei: "click"
Isnt it crazy how Sengoku gets slandered for his strength being backed up by statements meanwhile Dragon gets to be Top 5 in the verse for no reason?????
why are people so despertate to push mihawk?
I mean, dragon looked like snakeman as a teen
The worlds worst criminal?
The insurgent serpent?
Sengoku is a bootlicker and dragon isn’t
His eyeliner that day was on FLEEK
who says dragon is top 5 lmao
Dragon's base form is g4 snakeman
Dragon is defo top 5
Sengoku turns his gaze away from the boot actually.
I see it all the time
Well. If you see a "thigh" in the nick you can mostly assume it's a joke
Top 10 most definitely
They want that mans head for a reason
To lick the other boot
Sengoku needs promotions to save himself
well if its from guys like the dude above its bait
Sengoku and Harald did nothing wrong
also thinking mihawk is the strongest after Imu when he is 2 months away from dying to zoro is wild
Hes top 2
Ok wait...

Mustve been the wind
He's top 6-7
sure buddy
When would dragon consider luffy not as a weakness
Harald did everything right. It's Xebec's fault. fr 
Around Water 7 imo
Water 6-7
Permission to fire
Pmo
Granted
Cipher pol 6-7
How long has the time skip been? Fishman island was...a week? Punk hazard 1 day, Dressrosa 1 day whole cake a week..wano...awhile. egghead 3 days
u had sixseven in ur name like a week ago
about a week ago
its kinda outdated tbh
Rokaya is performative
The time dilation means we dont know
Like 6 or 7 days ago?
did 6 7 even have a meaning or was it just dumb
Performative mods
Lars is a milk drinker
Dumb
W performance W mods W speed
In terms of the song it came from Im sure it did. But the meme of people saying it no
lets say i downloaded a mod and this kid no longer lives in whiterun anymore
Was there a Water 6 before Water 7?
Mars?
Lets say I downloaded the same mod just because of that kid
Someone should ask
Maybe water 7 refers to the amount of times the ocean level has risen
W speed
it refers to the 7 docks it has
lmaoo
Aqua Laguna is threatening to submerge the city once again and when it does it will be water 8
But it would be Water 8 now then
the gap between kuzan and akainu exposes this list
its inarguable that they're near equals
even akainu fans know this
I thought that was the explanation for the Galley LA company not the island name
Akainu was mentally nerfed
A list with Akainu in the Top 10 and not Garp...
yeah true actually
Aqua Laguna is every year so youre suggesting it only started 6-7 years ago
where is garp
Honestly tho. That mod gave the biggest laugh in the entire game. A bear ran into a village from miles away. Ragdolled a child and ran back into the forest
Oh my God stop
😅
@vital heart
No even with recurring Aqua Lagunas it's only recently that the total submersion became a real threat
W speed
Fact: Akainu held back and didn't use acoc because he felt bad for Kuzan
Iceberg is now devising (or has already devised) a way for the town itself to float and avoid the incoming disaster
In terms of straight hands I would assume Kuzan was better because he was trained by Garp
That is water 7
It was already a plan
Nono, what happened was Akainu unlocked ACoC like after 10 days of fighting and oneshot Kuzan
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he cant save every island but create some strongholds so refugees can flock to them
What's funny is Oda can actually use that excuse if he wanted to
iceberg will basically turn water 7 into a pluton like ship
Kuzan will sink the titanic captains
Him or iceberg
We need the goat
Kuzan will make them play the violin
Shiki will help
lol
ice berg would be cooler. but I could also live with Kuzan sinking them
Buggy D. Dancing Clown?
Wang shit will return before shiki does
Please let him stay "dead"


