also-manga

[prisma yacht]

Like shamrock has cerebus

[digital spear]

You see ... Shirahoshis denden mushi was in Megalos mouth so she thought Megalo was speaking ... and because of that the sound coming from Loki was muffled and when he yelled at her, she didnt register it as shouting... and because she was talking to a pet her speech pattern changed ... @vestal mural told me this is true

@ashen perch I am your Saul Goodman

[hazy echo]

Like how Spandam’s sword turns into a elephant as well

[steel stirrup]

I can dig itttttt

[alpine trench]

so cute

[steel stirrup]

Book it

[tranquil blade]

That's why Shanks doesnt count as a swordsman of course

[trim lily]

gonna be funny if shanks entire crew has no devil fruits then shanks snuck in a devil fruit in his sword

[ashen perch]

cooking

[steel stirrup]

[hazy echo]

Oda also said that Zoro would have a Dragon DF Sword too if

[muted hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-one-piece-divine-departure-kamusari-kid-gif-11233119155278399459

[prisma yacht]

.....YEAH😭😭

[trim lily]

the haki griffin…

[dapper tree]

Luffy and Loki both drink juice as kids. SH confirmed

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/gear-5-gear-5-luffy-monkey-d-luffy-one-piece-shanks-gif-16465631779840169490

[muted hedge]

not going to lie, i thought the haki gryphon looked pretty sick

[ashen perch]

Oda is Shanks's strongest soldier, he is gonna make it so that we cant actually determine if Mihawk is stronger than him or not

[rare ivy]

Joyboy gonna domi reversi Shamrock and force him fight for Strawhats

[hazy echo]

It is sick

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[urban lodge]

Oda will try to pull this but we can't let him gaslight us because he said if Zoro had a fruit it would be one of his swords that would eat Kaido's fruit

[ashen perch]

Shanks is gonna use some wicked magical sword shit that will disqualify him from being a swordsman, ppl arent ready

[tranquil blade]

Mihawk is not gonna be all that im afraid, I've already given up on it

[frozen aspen]

crackpot theory

[tranquil blade]

Luffy might've surpassed Mihawk in strength already, so it wont be long for Zoro

[ashen perch]

nah he will be around his level atleast

around Shanks

[muted hedge]

by the way thoughts on the possibility that Shamrock has a fruit of his own, aside from Cerberus?

[dark nymph]

Oda is the biggest coward so this checks out

[tranquil blade]

Unlikely

[hazy echo]

https://tenor.com/view/death-puss-in-boots-pick-it-up-pencil-meme-gif-9024998142821769028

[ashen perch]

yea

[tranquil blade]

I imagine they like to keep themselves without a power so they can swin or something

Also because aura

[hazy echo]

Maybe not

[muted hedge]

i don't think the Celestial Dragons care much about swimming to be honest

[grand flower]

Nope

[vestal mural]

Bro you’re stretching a stretch. If all of that is exactly true you can change my name for a year. And I’m being serious

[hazy echo]

If the world is sinking then it would def be important for them

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOO

[hazy echo]

Since they could go underwater

[muted hedge]

that's why they have the bridges built, no?

[steel stirrup]

The point still stands

[hazy echo]

Mermaids

[ashen perch]

Shuron, one century long mute if Joyboy is Luffy, wdyt

[steel stirrup]

A century????

[ashen perch]

yeah

[steel stirrup]

Can you even set it that long?😭

[tranquil blade]

At that point just make it a permaban

[steel stirrup]

Lemme find tf out

[ashen perch]

nah I am just trying to silence him forever

[muted hedge]

i thought the whole point of the flood was that Marijoa wouldn't be effected due to it's elevated position

[tranquil blade]

No need for a hundred year mute

[steel stirrup]

Oh nah

[tranquil blade]

That's basically the same thing as a ban smh

[hazy echo]

That’s part of it yea

[ashen perch]

ban bets are not allowed so gotta find a way around it

[prisma yacht]

Shuron is a warp fan so pls spare him

[hazy echo]

But even then they do swim under and stuff

[muted hedge]

i just feel like it would be weird if we never get someone with a weapon devil fruit and their own devil fruit, given it would be technically be a bypass to wield 2 fruits

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[dark nymph]

bros trying to seal Shuron

[steel stirrup]

This is wild

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[hazy echo]

Like Mosgard that went to FMI

[rare ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-gear-5-beat-loudly-heartbeat-anime-gif-15089399415968244021

[frozen aspen]

a rat you say...

[steel stirrup]

Its spoilers but you know what image im thinking of

[tranquil blade]

Shuron looking at also-manga discussions during the final war after that 100 year mute

[hazy echo]

That would likely be Garling instead of Shamrock

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOO

[hazy echo]

If I have to say

[muted hedge]

well he'll probably have the monsterous yokai form instead

[hazy echo]

It could be similar to Nusjuro

[prisma yacht]

😭😭😭

[frozen aspen]

good

[steel stirrup]

Arsal: "Yo, Shuron"

😭😂

[hazy echo]

Where he can fight with hybrid and then the mythical zoan DF he might have

[muted hedge]

maybe

[frozen aspen]

I get to slander garp in peace then

[hazy echo]

Cause it would also set him apart from his sons as well

[prisma yacht]

no u don't

https://tenor.com/view/kick-yeet-gtfo-kick-cliff-push-cliff-gif-9944415665032080774

[rare ivy]

I’m with you

[frozen aspen]

sorry but Shuron is far more persistent than u

[digital spear]

Lmaooooo im gonna save this JUST IN CASE

[prisma yacht]

I'll still work as thorns in your way

[vestal mural]

Can’t bove yc is back to “yc” as his nickname

[alpine trench]

return of the king

[vestal mural]

Bring back bunny cat uwu egril

[digital spear]

Void Century

[muted hedge]

i didn't even notice

[alpine trench]

glad to have you back yc my friend

[muted hedge]

i was getting so used to their prior nickname

[digital spear]

Harsh just said glad im back id feel bad to instantly do this

[stone terrace]

Why sea

[vestal mural]

Yc should stand for your catgirl

[dense rapids]

Next 2 chapters we’re gonna see Harald get presented before Imu and become a god knight

[alpine trench]

dont listen to crimsonfucker and his japanese girl eating burger fantasy

[stone tulip]

Would be hilarious if that’s the case 😭

[tranquil blade]

"japanese girl eating burger fantasy" ???

[stone tulip]

Nope ?

[prisma yacht]

Nope

[vestal mural]

One day I’ll be yui and yall will regret it

[muted hedge]

yui?

[alpine trench]

check #also-off-topic pins

from k-on

[digital spear]

And I will be Osaka

[alpine trench]

he literally wants to be the k-on burger eating girl gif

[vestal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/borgir-k-on-yui-gif-23906064

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/lectyres-speed-stream-speed-laughing-ishowspeed-speed-gif-9612557955943858519

[alpine trench]

https://tenor.com/view/borgir-k-on-yui-gif-23906064

[prisma yacht]

Yuii

[muted hedge]

oh she is named yui

[alpine trench]

its a dire state of affairs with the channel's pins

[digital spear]

W Mip

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/XgInrw/status/1987879394015363421

Ama(あま) (@XgInrw)

火之迦具土慧士と無限拳骨を描きました！
久々のデジタルイラストでかなり苦戦しました🙇
#ONEPIECE #fanart #今週のワンピ

X · Nov 10, 2025, 1:45 PM

[tranquil blade]

Pins are just extremely unhinged, I knew when I saw Cunk calling himself a baka that it was gonna be dastardly

[frozen aspen]

did krome get the boot or smth or are the guys in manga faking his desth

[vestal mural]

Ty for appreciating me for being myself

[digital spear]

Garp is a good example of how Luffy would fight without his fruit

[muted hedge]

apperantly he left

[digital spear]

Hed just do allat anyway 💀

[frozen aspen]

true

i mean he pretty much punces his opponents rn anyways

[frozen aspen]

wild

wonder why

[muted hedge]

yeah

[long basin]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-get-out-no-hell-gif-10700690

[frozen aspen]

u guys will not stop me

[long basin]

but I wanna

[digital spear]

But HE will

[muted hedge]

https://x.com/XgInrw/status/1980836787527582191

Ama(あま) (@XgInrw)

イム様合体サターン聖を想像で描いてみました。イム様の器にされたサターン聖は不自然に顔が伸びていると予想してます🥶
#ONEPIECE #fanart #今週のワンピ　#妄想

X · Oct 22, 2025, 3:21 AM

first fan art of Satimu i've seen

[frozen aspen]

noone ever stopped me before though

[prisma yacht]

Why his face like that 😭

[frozen aspen]

cool art

[long basin]

Imu bending space

I just rediscovered pepper, not bad

[stone terrace]

Saturn looks creepy but imu looks goofy

[muted hedge]

rediscovered pepper?

[digital spear]

You dont know who HE is (im not telling his name to farm aura for him)

[long basin]

yea, the last 8 month I seasoned my food with hunger

[grand flower]

Yup

[muted hedge]

interesting

[long basin]

Star Wars? Nope
Yoda? Yup

[crude wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/imu-sama-imu-one-piece-imu-one-piece-gif-9591400471796142390

LOL

[stone tulip]

What does that mean

[prisma yacht]

!embedfail

[tropic nova]

LMAOO EMBED FAIL
You are able to post pictures after you reach level 10. Check your level by typing ?rank in #bots

[frozen aspen]

this is a op discord there is no aura

[crude wedge]

lol

[digital spear]

Thats why I have to farm it

[late compass]

Could this have been referring to Loki and shirahoshi meeting❓

[digital spear]

YES

[trim lily]

was loki not already born at this time

[sage temple]

That could def be it

[sage temple]

What if "born" means the activation of each of their powers

[foggy grove]

Guys we dont know why Shanks was up there becoming a "devoted blade" or wtv right? He was with Roger pirates then went back up to Marijoa? Havent shown the reason yet rgiht of him going up and then coming back down again?

[trim lily]

that’s silly

[digital spear]

I thought it said only one will be born soon

[sage temple]

Not really

[frozen aspen]

I am not a fan of fanscans so im actually reading the offical rn shanks almost got caught and immediately tries to beas racist as possible to cover up lmao

[sage temple]

This as well

It says soon

[trim lily]

it says “a sovereign will soon be born, and then another in a distant sea”

[frozen aspen]

He is probably just fishing foe information

also hos sword possibly

[crimson yacht]

no prob luffy

[digital spear]

Is this official

[late compass]

yes

[trim lily]

i guess it does depend on how you read it

[digital spear]

[trim lily]

i could see it both referring to one being born or two

i always thought the latter

[urban lodge]

"They will surely meet" is definitely the two sovereigns right?

[trim lily]

yeah

[urban lodge]

From the Harley

[trim lily]

oh no

probably not?

[sage temple]

This is official

"Our sovereign will soon be born"

[digital spear]

"Surely all will go well this time" because they didnt meet the first 2 worlds

[sage temple]

It could be talking about the birth of each of their innate powers

[trim lily]

wasn’t momo born around this time too?

or is that before

[sage temple]

No that was also before

28 years before

[digital spear]

Oden was on Rogers ship so Momo was with them

[sage temple]

I feel like Loki is the only other one with possible innate powers

Comparable to Shirahoshi

Especially if he has a prophecy based entirely on him

Which is likely about his eyes

So if anything I'll just put my bets on Loki and Shirahoshi as the 2 Sovereigns

[frozen aspen]

also maybe this is a stretch however

is there a chance the HK did not know Shanks was a roger pirates

[trim lily]

yeah

[frozen aspen]

when he returned to mariejois?

they could have only figured out later

[trim lily]

they for sure knew he was a pirate

just not on the roger crew

[sage temple]

And I feel like Oda put "I've never met you" here just to add to the sovereigns not yet meeting

So the "birth" thing referring to their powers being mastered would fit everything Loki and Shirahoshi have been built up for

[prisma yacht]

🔥🔥

Best ship of the series

[sage temple]

I'm not shipping em

[prisma yacht]

Im

[sage temple]

But if this theory is true, we'll just have to wait to see what Loki's powers are

[prisma yacht]

[sage temple]

This ship isn't out of Oda's abilities anyways

[rare ivy]

Let him fight first

[sage temple]

Well the prophecy isn't about fighting

[frozen aspen]

yeah Shanks was probably a pirate with a bounty which is how they found him in the first place. If they had known that shanks was a roger pirate, shanks wouldn't have immediately resorted to damage control when harald insinuated that they meet before

[sage temple]

Loki just fits the description

[rare ivy]

He will be fighting nonetheless

[strong wadi]

No because it says both sovereign havent been born yet

[trim lily]

you can kind of read it both ways

[sage temple]

[trim lily]

one sovereign is soon to be born, and there is already another in a distant sea

or both are soon to be born

[sage temple]

I know but my theory is the "born" thing could be talking about the mastery/realization of Loki and Shirahoshi's powers

[willow pollen]

Tf is Loki gonna do

[alpine trench]

I just realised, this is 15 years ago, Shanks literally just left his crew and daughter behind to go on a recon mission and pretend that he hated everything he experienced down in the real world

[sage temple]

Shirahoshi was born first in that she exhibited her powers

[sage temple]

Loki is the only sovereign with potential powers to be born with since he was a baby

[willow pollen]

He must have taken acting classes

[strong wadi]

I mean if you want to read it the first way dolf typed it out, sure, but your interpretation is just flat out wrong based off the rest of the page

[trim lily]

yeah i’m very curious how that all worked out

did he just tell his crew he’d be going to mariejois for a year

[sage temple]

How is that wrong based off the rest of the page

[willow pollen]

Yeah I’m asking what’s the power gonna. E

Be

[alpine trench]

He was just like “hey I’m going to gather info and be back”

[frozen aspen]

uta isn't real

[sage temple]

Nobody really knows

[alpine trench]

And left his strawhat back with them

[willow pollen]

What if he got separated from the crew after the fight with bb

Maybe they think he’s dead

That’s why the wounds fresh

[strong wadi]

They talk about specifically the birth of the sovereign. The power part is separate in the 15 years to grow.

[grand flower]

What are Lokis powers?

[sage temple]

That growing could just be honing her powers

Shirahoshi can't really do it at will yet

[frozen aspen]

I wonder if mato is an orpahn ida took in

[sage temple]

Nobody knows yet

[strong wadi]

Good thing the series is gonna end in <1 month time

[sage temple]

Anyways I'm excited for Loki's power reveal

[blazing mantle]

Didn’t we already get this

[sage temple]

No we didn't

[blazing mantle]

Or you want an actual fight

[sage temple]

Wdym

[thick mango]

If bb is attacking fmi right now he's moving even faster than I expected and a month time to end the series seems reasonable

[strong wadi]

Im saying she will be able to have her powers fully honed when the series ends, which is going to be 1 month or less in the one piece verse.

[sage temple]

When'd we get Loki's powers

[blazing mantle]

Oh my bad

[sage temple]

Oh in the one piece verse

[willow pollen]

Lokis power: holding in his shit for 15 years

[thick mango]

He's fertilizing the tree

[sage temple]

I'm also interested in how Loki fights since Oda's been hinting on that point too

[blazing mantle]

This guy wants to see everyone fight

[sage temple]

He didn't say that about the New Giant WP

[blazing mantle]

But he’s more interested in Loki than Yamato

[sage temple]

True

Also it feels like Loki and Luffy could also be what the Harley is talking about

[olive sigil]

So am I

[blazing mantle]

Socrates do you think Loki will actually join

[sage temple]

No

[blazing mantle]

😢

Too big or for other reasons

[sage temple]

From Loki's introduction it feels like Loki and Luffy are destined to be together though

[olive sigil]

Because Loki is an actual character

[urban lodge]

😳

[sage temple]

Because of this

[olive sigil]

Yamato I can’t Even describe

[sage temple]

So I'm open for Luffy and Loki being the ones that are destined to meet

But it could also be Loki and Shirahoshi

[strong wadi]

??????????

[blazing mantle]

Why

[olive sigil]

He also felt chopper falling down the tree

[blazing mantle]

You don’t like kaido jr?

[sage temple]

Add a few more question marks I'm not sure if you're confused yet

[sage temple]

Yeah that as well

[olive sigil]

There’s just nothing in that character

[blazing mantle]

Ignore that

[strong wadi]

Did you literally just say it's possible they are talking about loki and luffy here

[sage temple]

I wonder how Loki even sensed Chopper with Seastone Chains on

[olive sigil]

I don’t like wannabe oden

[blazing mantle]

Focus on the hype moments and aura

Move the lack of writing to the side

[sage temple]

Yes

[olive sigil]

Do sea stones cancel out voat?

[strong wadi]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sage temple]

Because Shanks kind of orchestrated Loki and Luffy's meeting

[prisma yacht]

😭 bro

[strong wadi]

Alright wrap it up, just ban this guy already, I'm so tired of this trolling

[olive sigil]

Both characters Luffy felt are characters who fell down the tree. Why can Luffy feel that

[urban lodge]

Shanks planned Luffy's entire life from the beginning...

[blazing mantle]

Are we bringing back evil shanks

[gloomy tree]

no

[olive sigil]

Shanks freed fisher so he could free boa so that luffy survived

[sage temple]

One Piece fans after spamming "LMAO" and "????" at a valid point

[gloomy tree]

Socrates is just obsessed, ignore them

[sage temple]

God forbid you give a normal response

[sage temple]

Can I not want a civil conversation

[prisma yacht]

Thats not a valid point tho 😭

[dapper tree]

OK, man, you gotta let up

[distant vine]

I do love doing that

[dapper tree]

This is not what happened

[gloomy tree]

i mean sure you can, you could also be a bit less obsessed about Loki

[sage temple]

Yes he did, it's kind of easy to infer Shanks told Gaban about Luffy

And told Gaban to give Luffy the key

[olive sigil]

You get really defensive with Loki

[distant vine]

I kinda have to respect the grindset

[dapper tree]

[stone tulip]

Vivi is also an option based on what we discussed yesterday and how it seemed to build up on that too.

[dapper tree]

Not how that went

[strong wadi]

I'm sorry. You somehow think Shirahoshi isn't one of the sovereigns. Everyone else is just thinking what I'm typing because they don't want to get into trouble by pointing out how outrageous that statement is.

[distant vine]

Sanjuan wants to talk about extreme emotional relationships with characters...

[olive sigil]

I don’t like this because Gyattban doesn’t follow orders from shanks

[sage temple]

Cmon Chrissy

Yk I can't do that

[stone tulip]

I thought Socrates meant Shirahoshi and Loki no ?

[olive sigil]

When did I say that?

[digital spear]

We dont know why

[dapper tree]

It would help you if you did

[olive sigil]

I just want to talk about rocks and cows

[gloomy tree]

dude, im not saying everything you say about him is wrong, but you play him up as if he is the second MC or something, like relax dude

[sage temple]

😤 I'll let off a little bit

[strong wadi]

Nope, that's why i asked for clarification. He said Loki/Luffy or Loki/Shirahoshi. Those are his 2 options.

[distant vine]

Yeah, the second MC is supposed to be Shanks

[prisma yacht]

@verbal moth

[hazy turret]

I give it 2 days max

[stone tulip]

I see

[gloomy tree]

and Shirahoshi is definitely one of the sovereigns

[next estuary]

2 mins max

[dapper tree]

I feel like you won't

[stone tulip]

Zoro fans would kill you for that

[sage temple]

I do think Shirahoshi and Loki are the Sovereigns

[strong wadi]

Exactly, that's why it's literally banworthy trolling,.

[sage temple]

I just thought Loki and Luffy would be cool to think about as a possibility

[gloomy tree]

like im a big Luffy fan, do you see me bringing up his name every 30s im here

[olive sigil]

Let’s not ban people for not agreeing with a theory

[sage temple]

Why are you acting like I said "Loki and Luffy must be the ones who meet. Nothing else"

[next estuary]

Erm why are you telling a mod how to do their job

[gloomy tree]

who says i would lol

[olive sigil]

You just did

[distant vine]

Dont worry there's a legion of people to do that as is

[stone tulip]

Yeah that part is guaranteed, second sovereign could be anyone tho like could be Vivi, could be Loki, could be Momo, or could be even Luffy himself

[gloomy tree]

who was talking about banning anyone lol

[olive sigil]

Adam

[sage temple]

🤯

Dawg I was just saying it's possible

[next estuary]

Adam is a normie user he has no power here

[strong wadi]

Considering Loki/Shirahoshi is fine. Considering an option that doesn't involve Shirahoshi is just trolling or other reasons.

[stone tulip]

I don’t think it’s that deep 😭

[olive sigil]

When did Adam retire?

[dapper tree]

Don't do that

[gloomy tree]

months ago lol

[hazy turret]

People have been banned for the same reason before

[olive sigil]

I didn’t even congratulate him

[sage temple]

I wasn't even saying Shirahoshi wasn't the one they were talking about here

I was talking about the Harley Text

[vestal mural]

He was never staff. It’s all in your head

[sage temple]

Saying "They will meet"

I thought it could be Loki and Luffy

[olive sigil]

Happy retirement @strong wadi congratulations on being allowed to touch grass again

[sage temple]

The Harley Text doesn't even talk about a Sovereign

[dapper tree]

What about Momo?

[sage temple]

Yeah he could be one too

[dapper tree]

Special little guy

Momo and Shirahoshi

Zunisha and Seakings

[olive sigil]

What if it’s carrot

[sage temple]

But I think Adam's misunderstanding what I was referring to

[vestal mural]

The two sovereigns could be so many people. Luffy, Loki, shira, momo, etc

[stone tulip]

Sounds bit extreme tho ngl

[digital spear]

• Shanks gave Bellemere the idea to save Nami and Nojiko and raise them
• Shanks gave Zeff the idea to open a sea restaurant with Sanji and the bodypart Zeff ate was actually Shanks arm
• Shanks killed Kuina
• Shanks fed Chopper the Hito Hito no mi (similar scene like with Luffy and Buggy)
• Shanks told Kuzan in Ohara to let Robin live and saved the books
• Shanks saved Law from Flevance

[vestal mural]

And it doesn’t have to be love

[dapper tree]

Nawwwww

[olive sigil]

Carrot

[next estuary]

Momo is the Oden that a certain horned son wishes he was…

[scenic dirge]

Lmfao

[olive sigil]

That last one proves shanks is evil

[stone tulip]

These 4 you mentioned are most likeliest ones besides Vivi herself

[gloomy tree]

Momo is not Oden, Momo wants to make his dad proud

[dapper tree]

Get vivi outta here

[digital spear]

• Shanks gave Sanjuan the idea to hate Law
• Shanks created this server

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[olive sigil]

Momo is just a confused kid trying his best

[stone tulip]

Momo is said to be the greatest Shogan so that’s right lol

[digital spear]

Vivi is most likely lol

[strong wadi]

Why do you think I replied your message that had the panel of the sea kings and roger/oden and said this

Did you literally just say it's possible they are talking about loki and luffy here

because you wanted clarification on my question marks.

[sage temple]

Momo is the only sovereign other than Shirahoshi that actually has a direct relation to an Ancient Weapon

[stone tulip]

Nah uh

[stone tulip]

I explained my reasoning yesterday so lol

[vestal mural]

Tf you mean naw bro

[sage temple]

I thought you were replying to a different attachment

[stone tulip]

Yeah like it isn’t far fetched plus Vivi herself actually has direct connection with Shirahoshi too

[vestal mural]

That too yea. But she’s less likely than them

[digital spear]

Vivi is Pluton fuck Wano

[sage temple]

Yeah sure but she's kinda unlikely

[gloomy tree]

i think both Momo and Loki are possible candidates besides Shirahoshi for what the Sea Kings were talking about

[dapper tree]

I don't know how it can be more clear

[sage temple]

Vivi has the least amount of relation to an Ancient Weapon or innate power

[tranquil blade]

Vivi is the only one who can command Pluton but Pluton itself is in Wano

[stone tulip]

Or Uranus if Imu’s weapon is red herring lol

[dapper tree]

Beans

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-gif-27532263

[vestal mural]

Pasta, if you mean shira is mosa then it’s TOO CLEAR to be true

[dapper tree]

[strong wadi]

Reminds me of when people said Komusaraki couldnt be Hiyori

[digital spear]

yeah Imu just has a fake

[digital spear]

Who tf said this

[hollow thorn]

I've never actually seen this show. Is it any good?

[vestal mural]

I’ll ping you when this ages like milk

[sage temple]

It's alright

[stone tulip]

Not really cause her ancestors scattered the poneglyphs and the Arabasta poneglyph has Pluton’s location, Loki is currently has the least connection to ancient weapon if we are going that logic for now

[digital spear]

I feel like Momo would be Pluton but who knows

[tranquil blade]

Well no we know Pluton is a physical weapon that can be created

[stone tulip]

I think she is far more likelier considering her photo was brought up along with Shirahoshi, Luffy, and Blackbeard plus Imu directly targeting her but who knows

[digital spear]

I mean the Pluton commander

[tranquil blade]

Oh well maybe but

[stone tulip]

It’s 50/50 really

[distant vine]

Can we take a moment to appreciate all the reveals and setup Oda has been doing this arc? Really good stuff!

[digital spear]

Ok appreciate it lets continue

[olive sigil]

A baby can also be created when mom and dad hug each other

[stone tulip]

Elbaf peak arc fr

[gloomy tree]

dude Egghead was great already, but Elbaph has been absolute banging

[sage temple]

Yeah just scattering the fragments of a map doesn't mean you're super related to whatever location it leads to imo

[digital spear]

Every weapon is gonna be a machine and a human that can control it

[gloomy tree]

i saw this being posted earlier but not sure who this is from

[sage temple]

Loki has been talking to Poseidon for a while now and has glowing eyes

[stone tulip]

Sure but I am just saying she has more connections to ancient weapons that Loki right now

[olive sigil]

Oh Franky’s flashback

[vestal mural]

That puts her in a different category than this for me

[stone tulip]

I take it that you didn’t see that tweet huh

[strong wadi]

People were literally arguing the map is wrong even it came out 😭

[stone tulip]

Who knows, but I do believe she has great chance of being one considering she met Shirahoshi herself too

[sage temple]

?

[stone tulip]

@sage temple

[sage temple]

Fake news

[vestal mural]

This is actually brain dead

[tranquil blade]

Damn the primal guy sounds familiar

[gloomy tree]

thats why i said i dont know who this is from

[stone tulip]

It was from this tweet btw too https://twitter.com/dawnstussy/status/1995149073687744581?s=61&t=KNu739JA8oHG8fbimxQTgg

Stussy Sama - Dawn&Dusk (@DawnStussy)

【Lost in Translation by a Native Japanese Speaker】

Most people seem to think “Mosa” is actually Shirahoshi, but from a native-Japanese perspective, There’s one thing that stands out to me — the way the two of them speak.

Shirahoshi often ends her sentences with very formal

X · Nov 30, 2025, 3:13 PM

[sage temple]

HAH

[vestal mural]

Yea I remember him. He was chill

[digital spear]

Lmaooooooooooo
What is Primal even saying? Unborn daughter? 😭

[stone tulip]

Idk man, it’s from reliable translator so meh

[sage temple]

Ok I didn't know that at the time

Couldn't this just be because she talks to Loki differently

[vestal mural]

The shira speech stuff is 100% true

[sage temple]

Since they're like long-time friends

[stone tulip]

Also this too https://twitter.com/dawnstussy/status/1995158213940109588?s=61&t=KNu739JA8oHG8fbimxQTgg

Stussy Sama - Dawn&Dusk (@DawnStussy)

Shirahoshi spent almost ten years practically locked away, saying,
“The only one I ever talk to is Megalo.”

But Loki tells Mosa, “You and I have been friends for a long time.”

From that alone, it feels pretty unlikely that Mosagou and Shirahoshi are the same person.

X · Nov 30, 2025, 3:49 PM

Cause apparently Shirahoshi never talked to someone else

[vestal mural]

^

[sage temple]

Dang

[vestal mural]

It would be one hell of a retcon

[sage temple]

Well I guess Mosa's identity is inconclusive rn

But Loki still has glowing eyes, a prophecy, and a lightning hammer

[digital spear]

Dont worry I can explain everything
#also-manga message

[stone tulip]

And that’s exactly why I doubted Shirahoshi being Mosa unless they only met post FMI

[stone tulip]

Probably new character imo

[vestal mural]

Can’t wait to find out who mosa is in 3 years

[sage temple]

Ok

[vestal mural]

[trim lily]

the funniest mosa theory is mosa is jarul

[sage temple]

I did say "or innate power"

[olive sigil]

Mosa is Gancho

[trim lily]

i don’t know what it’s based on but i love it conceptually

[vestal mural]

Mosa being my left nut is more likely than shirahoshi

[digital spear]

Its theory that still makes the most sense I think

[stone tulip]

Yeah I don’t think that makes sense either

Also had seen people claim it’s Ida or Vivi but I doubt that too

[digital spear]

Because both Mosa and Jarul told Loki not to shout

Ida is dying

[dapper tree]

It's probs jarul

[hazy turret]

I can’t believe there are more deniers after more proof has come out than before

[trim lily]

he is pretty loud

[urban sluice]

is your pfp an otter

[dull zenith]

Another fake out death

[hazy turret]

Seal

[digital spear]

This is how you know a theory is gaining traction dont back down now

[urban sluice]

ill alert the marinelife

@cobalt kelp

[olive sigil]

Does someone have the den den mushi image?

[digital spear]

I just registered you have a based seal emote

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-crying-seal-forced-to-seal-crying-gif-20960311

[strong wadi]

Idk, based off today's chapter, it seems like maybe Oda hasn't read fishman island.

[trim lily]

[hazy turret]

Listen I gave the theory no attention beforehand but if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck

[trim lily]

yeah the viz translation makes the fisher tiger thing even worse

[stone tulip]

Nah Oda doesn’t fumble that way lmao

[vestal mural]

Do you read official only?

[hazy turret]

It’s probably a god damn duck!

[digital spear]

He will be baked soon alhamdullah

[strong wadi]

i just said today to make it clear i meant the latest one, it's 1 letter shorter!

[craggy vapor]

Help me out y’all. What chapter did Bonney transform to Nika?

[dull zenith]

Shirahoshi has three eyelashes instead of two…. Just saying…..

[digital spear]

1119

[stone tulip]

Good catch

[vestal mural]

Oda fucks up a year difference and fans go mad

[strong wadi]

I'll believe this when Lola is addressed in this flashback

[vestal mural]

This series has been running since 97 bro

[hazy turret]

Year difference?

[trim lily]

his mind is slipping

[hazy turret]

Oh the Roger thing?

[vestal mural]

15 instead of 16. FT

[digital spear]

I really wonder how he will do it

[hazy turret]

Wait huh

[grand flower]

Hm. It’s got circles in its eyes

I wonder if it’s Caribou after all

[sage temple]

Have we seen it off

[strong wadi]

No, I'm pretty sure the problem is that he escaped as a slave and then did it all in 1 trip, instead of escaping, going to fmi, and then later going back to free the slaves

not the year difference

[hazy turret]

This!

[digital spear]

I remember when this was posted like every day

[trim lily]

yeah fisher tiger is supposed to climb the red line to save hancock and other slaves

but he never does that here

[hazy turret]

I didn’t notice the year thing though

[vestal mural]

He literally tells Neptune he’ll go back

[grand flower]

Oh YC… I wish I was born in your time…

[vestal mural]

What planet are you on bro

[hazy turret]

That’s not how this chapter portrays it

[hazy turret]

Listen this chapter fucked everything up

[vestal mural]

Yea that’s the point

[hazy turret]

I don’t know what’s what anymore

[fluid cedar]

Neptune faked fisher tigers backstory to make fishmen look better

[grand flower]

@hazy turret yo big news! Luffy and Joy boy share a va now

[digital spear]

Thank you for giving me aura...!

[grand flower]

YC…rizz me…

[hazy turret]

Oh 😐 cool 😐

[grand flower]

67!

[grand flower]

It is

[digital spear]

🧒🏻

[grand flower]

It’s super cool

[vestal mural]

FT escapes 16 years ago. He goes back to fmi. He tells Neptune he’ll go back. He scales the redline and frees the slaves a year later

[grand flower]

Yes

[hazy turret]

Yeah 😐 I’m sure 😐

[grand flower]

It’s all coming together

[dull zenith]

Goku shares the same VA as Gohan and Gotenks

[dark nymph]

wait fr?

[trim lily]

not the exact same

[grand flower]

Yup

[dull zenith]

DB clones theory confirmed

[strong wadi]

1167 shows he broke free, freed everyone, and then they all left together. No return trip.

[hazy turret]

Uhh what is

[trim lily]

the joyboy VA is the luffy VA from the ova i think

[vestal mural]

That’s precisely the issue lmao

[dark nymph]

fuck

[strong wadi]

you're saying the only issue is the 1 year difference!

[hazy turret]

Adam and mip I think you guys are in agreement

[grand flower]

The VA for Joy boy played Luffy in the OVA they made before the anime @dark nymph

[grand flower]

Luffy and Joy boy have always been the same person

[hazy turret]

Oh….

[vestal mural]

Yea because 1167 says it was 15 years ago yet he wasn’t a slave then

[hazy turret]

Err I gotta go

[vestal mural]

Oda just fucked up the timeline. Or someone made a typo

[shadow python]

I had thought tiger climbing the red line to free the slaves was a myth. Him being a slave himself wasn't common knowledge so they might have just assumed that's how he got there

[trim lily]

well both the timeline and the event is fucked

[strong wadi]

the event is fucked

[pine ridge]

do you think he broke some of the other slaves out the first time as well and then came back to free even more?

[strong wadi]

not the year

[trim lily]

he isn’t supposed to have escaped and rescued them in the same event

[grand flower]

Shes so excited shes gotta go celebrate guys

[digital spear]

11sixseven

[hazy turret]

Even if someone typo’d and meant to put 16 instead, the event is still changed because they all escaped at once

[grand flower]

6ix7even

[stone tulip]

Definitely intentional

[trim lily]

could be

[hazy turret]

Yesterday meek asked who changed his name and I said it was arsal when it was actually me

[digital spear]

Holy W

[grand flower]

Karma won’t like that

[frozen aspen]

evil

[hazy turret]

Just had to get that off my chest

[tranquil blade]

Wait it actually wasnt Meek?

[trim lily]

a little bit of trolling

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-phillips-instiagtor-gif-22728638

[hazy turret]

No lol

[tranquil blade]

Oh my god

[cobalt kelp]

Hi

[hazy turret]

I was just adding a number every 10 mins or so

[grand flower]

What was Meeks name yesterday

[vestal mural]

That’s not what we know from fmi

[tranquil blade]

Joshua 67

[digital spear]

I think Rokaya put 676767 in it

[grand flower]

Guess what Avery

[trim lily]

[grand flower]

Slow day huh

[hazy turret]

Yeah kinda

[urban sluice]

you love rivers

[tranquil blade]

Shuron if this has anything to do with Joyboy and Luffy

[grand flower]

It might

You never know

[cobalt kelp]

Rivers are neat I suppose

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-monkey-meme-monkey-finger-monkey-finger-in-mouth-gif-8112093780925939056

[upbeat yarrow]

jesus christ, our brains are NOT thinking

[grand flower]

Abyss=sea

[olive sigil]

Reverse mountain?

[tranquil blade]

Well that is true

[grand flower]

I called this one too

[pine ridge]

ok then I dont know what you're on about cause the issue isnt the 1 year difference but the fact that 2 separate events have seemingly been made into 1 event

[dull zenith]

Okay I’ve been rereading the FT flashback

And I’m pretty sure the red line climb was a lie?

[tranquil blade]

I know you did

[stone tulip]

Anyways considering how they casted Luffy’s OVA actress to voice Joyboy, imagine they brought 4kids actress to do the same thing

[olive sigil]

Mate you should change your name to Luffy and joy boy Sharon a va

[trim lily]

oda fucked it up

[hazy turret]

Nope hancock said it, chapter 521 I think

[vestal mural]

Yea two events that happened a year apart lol

[dull zenith]

That’s what she heard about no?

[grand flower]

Yoooo

[tranquil blade]

If him climbing the red line is a myth I might crash out

[dull zenith]

That’s the “official” story

[stone tulip]

Reincarnation piece strikes again

[grand flower]

Nope

[vestal mural]

It’s just a case of mass psychosis

[stone tulip]

Yes!

[grand flower]

I think he climbed up, they caught him, and shanks intervened

[hazy turret]

I legit like

[upbeat yarrow]

67 meme is making me wish for rapture, this is actually worse that the dab

[dull zenith]

Like same chapter she just hears “Heyyy someone’s here to save us!!”

[hazy turret]

I can’t remember the last time a chapter made me this angry

[vestal mural]

FT never came back a year later to climb the red line. We all hallucinated it

[shadow python]

Hancock didn't know Tiger was a slave. From her perspective he came out of nowhere and freed them

[trim lily]

oda will act like it never happened

[grand flower]

What’s wrong

[hazy turret]

No she knew

[spice cairn]

Texting just to click on my own name and changing out of the Halloween season

[hazy turret]

…I think

Damnit I gotta reread now

[dull zenith]

She didn’t know?

[trim lily]

one day you’ll remember to change it

[grand flower]

Have a good night

[shadow python]

The sun pirates themselves didn't know until he announced it as he was dying

[olive sigil]

They changed genzo’s name im angry

[grand flower]

What the FUCK

[hazy turret]

Poooog hello

[spice cairn]

There we go

Holy shit this chapter opened a can of worms

[digital spear]

Nah it wasnt common knowledge

[grand flower]

Alright I’ll see you later

[trim lily]

no more lillith jumpscare

[olive sigil]

Both viz and tcb

[hazy turret]

Guys don’t piss me OFF

[spice cairn]

I missed you

[willow pollen]

What’s this about fisher tiger going back to free the slaves

[grand flower]

Chat isn’t same without you

[willow pollen]

I thought we knew he was captured

[trim lily]

he got captured, escaped then returned later

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/young-garp-garp-suit-gif-5141931430544000170

[digital spear]

Fisher Tiger is a LIAR. He actually KILLED all the slaves

[trim lily]

probably true

[dull zenith]

Like unless I’m missing something this is all there is to FT’s talk to Neptune and Otohime

[tranquil blade]

Shuron I'm ngl I kinda got a banger message off of your theory so I might have to side against Luffy being Joyboy for that

[grand flower]

“Heaven is freedom too…”

[dull zenith]

He doesn’t say “I’ll be back”

[craggy vapor]

how often do y’all rewatch OP?

[tranquil blade]

or Joyboy being Luiffy or whatever

[grand flower]

Wym big dawg

[tranquil blade]

#also-manga message

[hazy turret]

Missed you too

[tranquil blade]

I saw an opportunity I kinda had to take it

[spice cairn]

Jet lag response since I had to catch up prior to joining back but this was pretty cinema.

[willow pollen]

Everyone changing their nickname to ones I don’t recognize

For no reason

[pine ridge]

maybe he wasnt a slave before this scene but simply witnessed it and then he tried to invade mariejois, got captured, and then escaped with shanks' help?

[grand flower]

There is nothing for me to frae

[grand flower]

FACTS

[hazy turret]

Can someone check chapter 521 where hancock talks about FT Weebcentral is getting on my nerves

send pages here pls and thank you

[dull zenith]

Ok yeah we literally all just collectively forgot. He says “On my last Journey”

[grand flower]

That’s my doing

[tranquil blade]

Arsal did say maybe seriously about a 100 year mute bet on your theory

Actually idk if Arsal was serious

[pine ridge]

so he was enslaved when he invaded mariejois

[dull zenith]

No he was, he already had notoriety before. And he mentions it later it was in his last journey

[upbeat yarrow]

FACT: "Fisher Tiger killed the slaves and lied to his crew because he was BORED"

[stone tulip]

Wait I am confused, what happened with Fish Tiger exactly ?

[hazy turret]

• FT goes on journey
• FT captured
• FT escapes and returns to FMI
• FT tells king and queen he is returning to free slaves

[runic dock]

KAY vs I know

@vital heart I hope you learn from your mistakes

[dull zenith]

He never climbed the Red Line to free people, or he did and was captured in the process and lived years as a slave

Either way he freed slaves when Shanks helped him

[runic dock]

I can see the latter , that’s just what I figured anyway

[digital spear]

When tf did he tell that King and Queen??

[stone tulip]

That is probably an Sbs worthy question then

[dull zenith]

But like after that talk he formed the Sun Pirates ?

Like almost immediately after

[olive sigil]

Facts: Fisher Tiger never met king and queen, or any of the beast pirates

[runic dock]

Not literally king and queen

[hazy turret]

No
FT was enslaved before deciding to free the slaves
He says that was the reason he wanted to, he could bear leaving them behind

[pulsar path]

Like how much electricity the rocks can conduct or like inside them;!?! Wouldn't that mean like a rock was alive

[spice cairn]

Yeah its specifically stated he couldn't bare leaving then behind

Hence why he came back

https://x.com/sirtonychopper/status/1995211576534765638?s=46&t=cPXMZvr1mzJF4W4U5oDjlA

Tony Tony Chopper (@SirTonyChopper)

@Soul_StormOP Saturn should've just killed this bitch

X · Nov 30, 2025, 7:21 PM

[pulsar path]

So wait would you consider Luffy beat Saturn?

[hazy turret]

I’m pretty sure he didn’t tell anyone when he returned to talk to Neptune and oto

[dull zenith]

During the flashback?

[runic dock]

This implies it could have all happened in one go

Not separated

[hazy turret]

Earl explain why FT said to Neptune he has to return to the holy land

[runic dock]

Hmm wait , okay wait

[shadow python]

It's weird. Tiger discusses to Neptune and oto that he saw the terror of man on his last voyage which should have been where he was a slave. He uses that to explain why he needs to go and free them inferring two separate trips

[pine ridge]

I think he might've freed some of the other slaves the first time too and then went back for the rest. so 1167 showed him freeing some of them when he was first enslaved and the year is simply wrong, it should be 16 instead of 15?

[runic dock]

What if the terror of man doesn’t imply being a slave , that he just saw slaves

[pine ridge]

that's what I thought about as well

[shadow python]

It could be that he had two separate last voyages which is just unnecessarily confusing. Wherein in his first last voyage he saw slaves but couldn't do anything and in the second he actually got captured

[spice cairn]

I was literally about to post this

[digital spear]

She didnt say anything about Tiger being a slave too

[pine ridge]

this should be an sbs question

[runic dock]

Okay wait , the first time he never told his crew

[digital spear]

It probably will

[runic dock]

He was still the future leader

[spice cairn]

Get ready to type Japanese buddy

[runic dock]

Not current leader

[dull zenith]

FYI the page on the right comes after the one on the left

[shadow python]

Oh that makes it a little clearer then

[dull zenith]

Also whoever was asking, Hancock didn’t know Tiger was a slave

[hazy turret]

I posted in order of reading

[olive sigil]

Every rock to a certain extent can conduct electricity. So we send current in the soil and measure how much it changes from the point of injection and exit. And we measure for different depths and positions to build a conductivity map. For example rocks with metal inside or with clay minerals conduct the electricity really well.

I measure a 2D or 3D map. Then make a model with different structures and then I simulate the measure from my model and adapt until I find a model that’s realistic with the data

[digital spear]

Wdym

[dull zenith]

She just heard he climbed up too

[pine ridge]

this implies he was a slave before talking to neptune and otohime no?

[digital spear]

Since she didnt know he was a slave she might have assumed he climbed the red line

[runic dock]

It could be that The first time he never told anyone except the king and queen what he was gonna do , then after the second time fisher tiger revealed it all to his crew,

Or

It happened all in one go and we are just confusing order of events due to paneling

[shadow python]

Not necessarily but its confusing because they use the term last journey twice

[spice cairn]

https://x.com/ripped1taliano/status/1995222212723495021?t=Fz2C2QRiNRi1oGVSvt7Zrw&s=19

🍳Giorno🍉 (@ripped1taliano)

☀️² #onepiece

X · Nov 30, 2025, 8:03 PM

[crude pulsar]

I just hopped on. What are we talking about?

[digital spear]

@urban kiln

[hazy turret]

I stand corrected then, she didn’t know he was a slave

So this straight up confirms that these were separate events then. If they happened at the same time, FT would be wearing slave clothes

[spice cairn]

We are talking about how much we love Shanks now

[crude pulsar]

Ok

[thick mango]

ive been saying for months that imu is the bio lizard

[spice cairn]

Imu will be a lizard demon

[digital spear]

oh yeah thaz makes sense

[spice cairn]

Calling it.

[crude pulsar]

Who is yall favorite one piece character

[shadow python]

What are slave clothes? The boa sisters were all wearing different outfits I don't think there was a uniform

[spice cairn]

Those were slave clothing

[olive sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-jinbe-jimbei-jinbei-one-piece-eat-gif-27160739

[pulsar timber]

Luffy

[hazy turret]

Yes!!!!!!

[spice cairn]

Probably ones they had one prior to being captured

[dull zenith]

Yeah and he had already freed the slaves by then

[dull zenith]

Like people were celebrating him on the day

[crude pulsar]

I don’t really favorite main characters

[sage temple]

Zolos are you taking that ?

[digital spear]

Frog? No.

HIPPO

Iconic shirt

[pine ridge]

well he said he wants to free the slaves when talking to neptune and otohime after this scene

[crude pulsar]

It’s all cool

[pulsar timber]

I tend to like main characters. It’s usually tied to how good the series is

[sage temple]

I like Loki

[dull zenith]

I feel like that’s more talking about the goal of the Sun Pirates

[spice cairn]

My favorite characters changes on my mood but my general all time is Bonney or BB

[digital spear]

Did we see the clothes he wore when he freed them? Maybe here?

[pulsar timber]

I thought you were a Jerry fan

[olive sigil]

He’s not a main character

[tranquil blade]

It's really hard to like a series if you dislike the main character, especially when the main character is so tied to the integral themes of the series

[olive sigil]

I’m more of a Tom fan

[sage temple]

Okay

[spice cairn]

Would you even like OP if you hate Luffy

[digital spear]

W

[spice cairn]

Or I should say read it particularly

[hazy turret]

Could this be the topic that finally revives debate arena

[ashen perch]

nah, they were celebrating him as just an adventurer, and the business he talks about is the conversation he has with Otohime and Neptune where he tells them that he is going to free the slaves.

[digital spear]

LETS GOOOOO

[sage temple]

I always liked Spike

[crude pulsar]

One Piece has like a million characters

[tranquil blade]

Probably not

[ashen perch]

this is 16 years ago, the beginning of the chapter establishes that

[digital spear]

@winged laurel

[royal orchid]

do you know the way

[spice cairn]

Yeah but funnily enough guess who they ultimately center around?

[hazy turret]

No one knew when he returned after being enslaved. They all find out he’s back AFTER he frees them and that’s when jinbe and arlong quit and the sun pirates are back

[crude pulsar]

Is it Luffy🤯🤯🤯

[spice cairn]

Fun Fact: Chapter 67 of One Piece was Sanji getting closer to his ultimatum in joining Luffy's quest.

#Awesome

[digital spear]

#Awesome

[royal orchid]

what was 677

and 667

[digital spear]

Punk Hazard

[ashen perch]

yea, theres a clear year long gap there, its very apparent in the flashback

[dull zenith]

The flashback one?

[spice cairn]

Fisher probably had time to figure it all out and go back in if anything

[digital spear]

This was Luffy and Law beating the Yeti Cool Bros and Law asking Luffy to form an alliance to defeat a Yonko

[ashen perch]

the FMI flashback yeah

[dull zenith]

Fisher Tiger’s flashback, I mean

[hazy turret]

https://tenor.com/view/office-michael-scott-thank-you-gif-5278681

[spice cairn]

I doubt he was that ballsy to go RIGHT back in there

[hazy turret]

It was a flashback within a flashback

[dull zenith]

Then this makes sense

Tiger was freed 15 years ago

[royal orchid]

every 67 chapter is important theory

[sage temple]

Flashback-ception

[pine ridge]

well here neptune is reacting to the raid on mariejois by remembering his previous conversation with ft where he said he wants to free the slaves after seeing human nature

[ashen perch]

no it doesnt though, Fisher Tiger returned 16 years ago after years of slavery at Marie Geoise

[digital spear]

Neptunes fatass holding Shiieahoshu like that is so funny

[royal orchid]

guys every 67 chapter is an important setup chapter

[spice cairn]

What Shanks gives him alongside the prep time was all he needed to make a relatively solid freedom plan

[royal orchid]

literally each one

[spice cairn]

So I choose to believe this was during his initial escape

[ashen perch]

he is free 15 years ago when he chooses to come back to Marie Geoise, he is not supposed to be enslaved

thats where Oda messed up with the timeline

[spice cairn]

Oh speaking of which don't worry Tritoma is about to come in ANY second now.

[pine ridge]

ye the only explanation is that he was captured when he returned

[spice cairn]

We are very close

[royal orchid]

Oda's gonna have to fix the story on volume release?

[hazy turret]

All for the sake of one man’s agenda….

[spice cairn]

One Piece content updates

[digital spear]

To do what? She already gave birth to Luffy

[pine ridge]

it's a very easy fix, just remove the chains

[dark nymph]

shanks glazing takes priority over timeline consistency

[lofty fern]

He was actually freed 16 years ago, you see it in FMI

[ashen perch]

this could work, another explanation I have seen is that he dressed himself up as a slave to blend in

[spice cairn]

To meet Dragon on a date

Its only fair

[hazy turret]

Why couldn’t Oda have shown shanks giving food to some slave or something if he wanted to indicate to us that he was undercover in mariejois

[ashen perch]

or he just turned himself in on purpose

[pine ridge]

yeah that works too

[spice cairn]

You know how romance movies start

[digital spear]

Well I hope so after they already have a child

[lofty fern]

Fisher messed up so badly at his plan that he not only got caught, he got reenslaved and had to have a human save him?

[spice cairn]

Im convinced him and fucking with Barto are pieces of evidence that he really hates feeding people

[lofty fern]

I don't see him putting on chains that he couldn't get off himself

[royal orchid]

depends on the romance

[shadow python]

It's possible Shanks assumed he couldn't get them off when he actually could

[pine ridge]

maybe that's why he doesnt have an exploding collar

[hazy turret]

My problem with this is that people are saying shanks helping FT makes the story believable because otherwise the HK would look bad. But him being captured again and escaping on his own is fine?

[ashen perch]

I dont think the chains are important at all honestly, I think Shanks's attack on Fisher Tiger was just him pretending to attack him so he can get close enough to him to mention the armory bit

[pine ridge]

idk

[ashen perch]

yea, the collar is a fake one, or else it would have exploded as soon as Shanks cut it

or well, not fake, but just normal

a regular collar

[hazy turret]

Yeah lol

[frozen aspen]

the HK don't need fisher tiger to look back they are literally loosing to the revs rn lmao

[pulsar path]

That's really bad ass like hitting rock pokemon with Pikachu volts but actually yeah idk why I didn't think rocks with metals would conduct electricity that totally makes sense lol so basically you can see what's under the earth like in a map?

[royal orchid]

https://x.com/rnolmol/status/1994850896237470132?t=M2PrafGZCbl74h0j3WaGyQ&s=19

もる (@rnolmol)

いっぱい持ってきた！🍠

X · Nov 29, 2025, 7:28 PM

[dull zenith]

I can buy this because of this dialogue

[shadow python]

I think it's kinda funny how Dragon refused to save Ginny but Tiger went to the holy land twice for people he never met including humans who he hated.

[trim lily]

so he dressed himself up as a slave then got captured anyway

[dull zenith]

The anime will fix this flashback

[shadow python]

It's a far cry from flashback Dragon who openly committed mutiny and was ready to die

[trim lily]

common toei w

[olive sigil]

Yeah I build underground maps of the earth using different properties. Depending on the technique used and the property I’m looking for. It’s not a visual representation, it’s not an exact representation of the earth but a map of properties. So let’s say I have a giant ball of steel underneath the ground I’d measure a big signal around it and I’d build a model that in the end gives me the object I’m looking for

[ashen perch]

Oda might have to do some redraws to fix it lol

[prisma idol]

I need the elbaf volume scans please, the art looks so much better in them

[pine ridge]

or just bullshitting in the sbs

[ashen perch]

I think the biggest redraw he has done was probably Kanjuro's silhouette, when he couldnt decide what he was gonna look like. Maybe theres some that I am forgetting but thats gotta be it

[trim lily]

do you count the kuma chapter

[ashen perch]

oh well thats more him completing it

its not a big change

[shadow python]

Another explanation is Loki is hazy on the details for events he wasn't a witness too. As a reminder he is the one telling this story while the kids are being killed upstairs

[trim lily]

im a bit sad viz also went with shangara but im glad they went with abyssal for the third tier of the contract

[prisma idol]

Apparently in 113 oda fixed Sommers arm mistake so smaller changes like the stuff yall are mentioning should work

[trim lily]

its weird what mistakes oda will and wont fix

like he didnt fix ethan's sword being completely wrong that one chapter

[craggy vapor]

I don’t like Covenant tho

[pine ridge]

nusjuro was getting his actual sword sharpened that day

[prisma idol]

Then changes the power of evil to the power of god

[trim lily]

i think covenant works given the religious theming

[ashen perch]

I feel like maybe he could just do that

[ashen perch]

transform the sword I mean

its rare for Oda to not correct a mistake in the volume version too so idk

[trim lily]

the anime made it his normal sword so either oda just forgor or the anime is gonna be wrong

[prisma idol]

Shodai is a morph sword

[digital spear]

Dragon: Oh, Tritoma... you are my Romance Dawn...

Tritoma: Are you only saying this because the dawn is in the east?

[ashen perch]

the anime just mostly doesnt really consult Oda on this, I wouldnt take it too seriously

[silent canopy]

Do you guys think loki will join luffy crew?

[trim lily]

no

[ashen perch]

well, they did claim that Elbaf is gonna change that

[frozen aspen]

not really

[ashen perch]

so maybe you can take the anime more seriously from Elbaf

[trim lily]

oh are they gonna actually do back and forth with oda in elbaf

[prisma idol]

I wouldn't straight up say no

Im 50/50

[digital spear]

What else would it be

[trim lily]

i genuinely do think loki will never join as long as he could possibly be stronger than zoro

[pine ridge]

loki doesnt seem like the subordinate kind

[ashen perch]

they said he will be consulted to a great extent basically iirc

[trim lily]

i liked it being a potential reference to shangri la

[prisma idol]

Thats easy, just give zoro a power up like oda always does

[ashen perch]

will have to find it from all the wifebait slop that sandman has been posting

give me a bit

[trim lily]

zoro will unlock ancient haki this arc

[prisma idol]

Why has he been doing that

[ashen perch]

attention

[digital spear]

Wouldnt it be like Shangurira then maybe Oda did this on purpose for something (theory)

[prisma idol]

I pray for elemental haki

[pine ridge]

attention seeking behaviour

[prisma idol]

So like the rest of OPtwt

[digital spear]

Color of attention seeking

[pine ridge]

yes

[olive sigil]

But his stuff is usually bigger and weirder than the rest

[trim lily]

meek commented it about it a day or two ago but it was up in the air whether it might be referencing shangri la or not

[ashen perch]

good god theres so much of this garbage

[trim lily]

he went with it being more like shandora

[prisma idol]

Because he has actual info sometimes

[olive sigil]

Yeah but where does he get that stuff

[ashen perch]

OP fandom needs to be nuked for giving this guy so much attention

[prisma idol]

Cant believe Sandman is self shipping himself with Oda

[tranquil blade]

Sound like Shiki there

[ashen perch]

its all publicly available information

every single bit

[trim lily]

but hes japanese so he must be an elevated source of information

[pine ridge]

other people and random interviews oda did a long time ago

[craggy vapor]

it works but contract sounds cooler tho. You make a contract with the devil is better known than you make a covenant with the devil

[olive sigil]

What oda ate this morning is not public information

[ashen perch]

it actually is

[trim lily]

true but you also make covenants with god

[prisma idol]

ALSO THANK GOD they went with Abyssal

Instead of Deep Deep

[olive sigil]

Deep deep >>>>

[ashen perch]

he is just a super fan, who has been collecting Oda interviews since like 20 years

[hazy turret]

Wouldn’t it be a covenant with god

[pine ridge]

no one would ever lie on the internet

[frozen aspen]

he is also likely making that shit up though

[trim lily]

even if deep deep is more accurate abyssal sounds cooler

[hazy turret]

In this case

[prisma idol]

It also fits the theme of the Abyss

[trim lily]

that too

[prisma idol]

Deep deep sounds too silly for the WG

[olive sigil]

It’s a silly manga

[ashen perch]

what Oda eats is like, one of the most common magazine comments from himself lmao

theres like 48 different comments every year where he is just talking about some bullshit he just attended or some shit he just ate

[digital spear]

it sounds abysmal...

[frozen aspen]

wait i didn't realize this before but this suggests that Harald has never meet the roger pirates or shanks before

[craggy vapor]

i mean yea I guess if you consider Imu a god.

[trim lily]

yeah its weird

[prisma idol]

Which they do

[digital spear]

Deep Deep sounds true with the series like dfs or denden mushi or tony tony chopper

[pine ridge]

and white white sea

[digital spear]

or Davy Davy Jones

[stone terrace]

Oda: "I recently discovered a place that sells pickled earth worms!"

[trim lily]

davy davy jones better not be real

[craggy vapor]

alright I lose 😔

[digital spear]

[prisma idol]

I refuse to believe D. Is davy

[olive sigil]

Or they met pre god valley

[tranquil blade]

The whole idea is that the celestial dragons that know of Imu consider him God even though he is actually the devil

[ashen perch]

its literally a running joke in the manga industry that all mangaka never ever say anything worth reading in those magazine comments, thats what Oda does too

[frozen aspen]

I assumed that shanks was on elbaf with the roger pirates and that's how harald recognized him

[frozen aspen]

Shanks was a literaly baby

[digital spear]

If the D was Davy then their last name shouldnt be Davy too

[ashen perch]

and then in 4 years, Sandman would repost it and people in his replies would be like OH MY GOD ITS ODA's WIFE HOW DO YOU KNOW

[olive sigil]

A baby with aura

[frozen aspen]

ok

[sage temple]

Not as much as Loki

[olive sigil]

That’s not aura

[frozen aspen]

[pine ridge]

I'm starting to think harald has seen one of shanks' mother-side ancestors during his long live

[craggy vapor]

D is not Davy

[prisma idol]

Isnt the most likely option that sandman worked as Shueisha for a bit

[sage temple]

Kaido level feat at 2 seconds old

That's definitely aura

[trim lily]

oh right we got author comments for this week

[silent canopy]

Well the others luffy crewmates he usualy asked them to join him as soon as he see them, same with loki (i think robin an franky are the exception)

[trim lily]

HUGE news

[hazy turret]

Arsal please start twitter beef with sandman

[olive sigil]

He’s scary

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-baby-emote-package-larry-tuff-baby-cool-baby-gif-837304742761715371

[frozen aspen]

yeah I can't think of anyone else he'd be referring to bc it sure as hell isn't garling or his family

[sage temple]

Scary to you

Aura to me

[digital spear]

I literally typed aura baby

[ashen perch]

see like

[trim lily]

fake its not blue

[pine ridge]

he's also asked people who ultimately didnt join

[stone terrace]

Im actually tired of that baby

I see it everywhere

[prisma idol]

We will back you up

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-baby-emote-package-larry-tuff-baby-cool-baby-gif-837304742761715371