also-manga

[lofty fern]

LokiSome get strange eyes probably

[sage temple]

Loki's eyes are likely unrelated to being an ancient giant blooded being

[lofty fern]

I assume if Estrid is pure, her whole family is

[sage temple]

Yeah sure

[wide star]

i homely think the eyes are a trait some ancient giants had back in the day and loki got them cause he got more ancient giant blood than others with it like Harald/Estrid

[sage temple]

Actual ancient giants don't have those eyes though

So that wouldn't make sense

[royal orchid]

estridd's family did a little habsburging

[lofty fern]

I think the eyes were a lost trait that hasn't come out until recently

[wide star]

we haven’t seen all the ancient giants from centuries ago and what they looked like

[lofty fern]

Yeah, all we have to go on is Oars

[sage temple]

Yeah but the actual Ancient Giants we have seen, none of them have those type of eyes

[wet condor]

Davy is saying that Loki's eyes are something that's unique to the AGs

[sage temple]

It's completely unique to Loki so far

[wet condor]

like the legendary super saiyan or something

Not all of them have it

But only they can have it

[lofty fern]

We haven't seen enough ancient giants to really know

[wide star]

we don’t know if any of the current elbaf giants know what all the ancient giants looked like , only one who would probably know that is jarul and he never spoke on his eyes

Jarul had to tell Harald that the galle la were actually real

[sage temple]

We have Oars and Oars Jr.

[wide star]

that 2 people lol

[sage temple]

And?

[wide star]

out of thousands

[sage temple]

Those are pureblooded Ancient Giants

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/xginrw/status/1988251815352430645?s=46

Ama(あま) (@XgInrw)

デジタルイラストの練習中。
フォーマルな神の騎士団を描きました🫡
外道集団ですが魅力的です！
#ONEPIECE #fanart #神の騎士団

X · Nov 11, 2025, 2:25 PM

[sage temple]

You haven't shown me anyone with Loki's eyes though have you

[wide star]

it’s like saying “ i saw 2 humans who looks like this so they all must look like this “

[native seal]

watch nami be the descendant of the princess of ancient kingdom

[lofty fern]

So if you meet two German people are they representing the whole group?

[wet condor]

All I know is that I bet the giant guy in the mural had them

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/abe-simpson-gif-16438652983406076344

[sage temple]

That's different because you have access to more than just two German people

Oars and Oars Jr. are the only 2 Ancient Giants there are right now

[prisma idol]

Another "Nami has a special bloodline" theory has hit the chats

[sage temple]

And they look just like the Galley La company giants

[steel stirrup]

SAKKY!!!

[lofty fern]

Well you can't make assumptions based on 2 people, if you know there were 1,000s more even if you haven't seen them

[native seal]

its just a message ill flex on 5 years later in case it ends up true

[sage temple]

So unless Oda shows us an Ancient Giant with Loki's eyes you're just jumping through a bunch of hoops to say Loki's eyes are just a genetic fluke

[wide star]

Galle La were a group of ancient giants that harald thought was a myth until Jarul said otherwise .. so the current era giants not knowing what all ancients giants from centuries ago looked like is normal

[sage temple]

You're making assumptions based on nobody

[native seal]

unc rich what is this cursed ahh image

[steel stirrup]

https://youtu.be/DXysYKpRBaE?si=cGTkEQ80Hyg5o1Ze

[sage temple]

And I assume making assumptions off of nobody is better than making it off of 2 people

For sure

[lofty fern]

How is that a bunch of hoops? It's something he was born with. The 1st thing you should consider is if it's a genetic mutation or abnormality or is it a trait that was silent until now. You want to jump straight to Loki is the chosen one 😆

[wide star]

this silhouette of the ancient giants alone shows us that they don’t all look like Oars

[ornate tartan]

rich were u reading or watching one piece back when marineford was airing

[steel stirrup]

Been watching/reading since 04

So yes

[sage temple]

I'm not going to anything you're just assuming Loki's eyes come from other Ancient Giants and giving 0 examples to support so

[ornate tartan]

shit i started like 09😂

[steel stirrup]

4Kids put me onto One Piece and then I fucked up my old family PC with viruses tryna read bad translations on sketchy forums

True to this not new to this

[lofty fern]

Man...didn't realize your Loki obsession was that bad

[ornate tartan]

2004 was skypeia i think

or jaya

[steel stirrup]

You blind and deaf, sis?

[sage temple]

So instead of giving any more examples js say I'm obsessed and call it a day

Now that's brilliant

https://tenor.com/view/it's-just-so-bad-it's-so-bad-ew-panda-it's-just-so-bad-gif-12756154516164019614

[lofty fern]

No...it's just...sigh...

I always expect better

[steel stirrup]

Helen Keller could see this nigga is Loki pilled

[ornate tartan]

watchin one piece on pc was a struggle

[wide star]

i think it’s more than likely Oda will keep it simple and say his eyes are a trait of some ancient giants back in the day rather than he gives Loki some special eye powers

[steel stirrup]

Before adblocks too

I should lowkey be entitled to compensation

[ornate tartan]

that’s back when virus use to cook your computer

u had to get the cd to save ur shit

[sage temple]

God forbid I like a character ig

[steel stirrup]

Definitely gave my PC mesothelioma tryna read and watch

[lofty fern]

I think if Harald actually had seen his son's eyes he would have pointed that out a long time ago

[steel stirrup]

I never said it was a bad ting

Don't get defensive now

[sage temple]

You're still basing Loki's eyes being a genetic thing off of nothing

[sage temple]

Oh ok

[pine jungle]

Why can't Helen Keller drive?
|| Because she's dead ||

[steel stirrup]

LMAOO

[wet condor]

I don't know if a bunch of AGs had them. I doubt it. I think it's something related to the last giant dude who had them in the second war if anything

[lofty fern]

I'm basing it on how genetics works. I don't need to see physical examples to know that. Even if I did, it's already all over One Piece in every species we see. The ancient giants/giants aren't going to be any different

[wet condor]

Loki could've inherited them from that guy

After that, I'll say it's something unique to him

Just a feeling

A bunch of other AGs could've had them

[ornate tartan]

if Loki eyes aren’t genetic then what are they

[sage temple]

Why do they have to be genetic though

[ornate tartan]

i’m pretty sure it will have to do with ancient giants

he’s not just gonna have special eyes just because

[wet condor]

It can just be a mutation unique to Loki

[grand flower]

Ofc

[lofty fern]

How else did he get them? Magic?

[steel stirrup]

I think bro is Jormungadr reincarnated

[lofty fern]

That's still genetic

[wet condor]

That's how mutations work p much. Mutations are spontaneous

[sage temple]

Saying this as if One Piece is a non-fiction documentary or something

[grand flower]

Genetic in what sense? It may be a mutation but that’s technically in your genes, but not always inherited

[wet condor]

much of the time anyways

[wet condor]

Yeah, I'm not saying it's not

[sage temple]

Saying it must be genetic is still senseless unless we actually see someone with these eyes like anywhere

[wet condor]

In that case it's not some sort of allele that's passed down

[steel stirrup]

Inherited will

Inherited eyes

This shit deeper than genetics

[lofty fern]

I'm just referring back to Soc's comment

[ornate tartan]

ancient giant is gonna end up being a special race

[sage temple]

Do you have to be related to the person to inherit something?

[grand flower]

A mutation in your genes that you didn’t inherit is still genetic

[pine jungle]

What do you see with those eyes Loki

[sage temple]

I didn't say it was a mutation

[grand flower]

You asked how it can be genetic if he didn’t inherit it from someone

That was me telling you how genius

It could be a mutation

[lofty fern]

This is possible. It could be a mutation or it could have been a silent gene.

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/think-bro-gif-22403438

[hazy turret]

She gene on my allele til I mutate

[grand flower]

This but unironically

[pine jungle]

Lend me some knowledge Darwin, these are one piece fans talking about genetics

[steel stirrup]

In One Piece? Im not sure. Most likely.

I lean more towards his eyes being a case of inherited will more than inherited genes

[grand flower]

I started my new job this week. It’s my dream job fr

[sage temple]

Is everyone with the will of D. related?

[wet condor]

https://tenor.com/view/in-there-out-get-out-get-in-door-gif-15810355

[hazy turret]

2.5/5, should’ve said Mendel

[sage temple]

That doesn't seem like the case considering how different they are

[steel stirrup]

By blood?

Hell nah

By bond?

Maybe.

[wet condor]

There's the door

[lofty fern]

Even in one piece that still seems to hold true. I mean look at Roger and Ace

[wet condor]

See yourself out

[hazy turret]

Ok

[sage temple]

Exactly so if it's an inherited trait, it doesn't have to be from Ancient Giants

Because this isn't real life

[grand flower]

You can ask me questions

Before I get mad

[hazy turret]

That’s great shuron, we are all very happy for you

[sage temple]

That doesn't seem to be the only way something can be inherited

[lofty fern]

What is this job? Is it good?

[steel stirrup]

Ima be honest

Who gives a shit

[grand flower]

Yeah

I cultivate cannabis for a major drug operation

[steel stirrup]

Bro is living the dream fr

[lofty fern]

We are currently talking about physical attributes, not metaphysical ideals

[grand flower]

LARPing breaking bad

[hazy turret]

I interpret inherited will as someone stepping up to the plate and continuing someone’s efforts

[grand flower]

Now I just have to get lung cancer

[lofty fern]

..... uhhuh

[sage temple]

Or it could be a curse

[grand flower]

It’s pretty fun, I love growing plants

[formal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-emoji-gif-11508989

[lofty fern]

Ah, so you want the magic route....

[pine jungle]

Bless us with your knowledge, mailbox

[hazy turret]

Your name will be first listed in my suicide note

[wet condor]

Loki is actually an accursed prince

Kind of based

[formal wagon]

egghead ends in december 🗣️

[grand flower]

Doesnr feel too good, does it

[sage temple]

Yeah what a silly idea

[hazy turret]

This is different

[sage temple]

Why would magic be in a fictional series

What a stupid thing to think

🤦‍♂️

[grand flower]

Yeah you deserve it

[lofty fern]

I dunno, seems to need a whole lot of hoops to jump through with 0 eviidence to show for it 😏

[steel stirrup]

Is this only about inherited physical traits or personality traits as well?

[sage temple]

God what a great arc for this type of discussion 😊

[blazing depot]

Imu is a good guy actually

[wet condor]

Curse is more interesting

[hazy turret]

I didn’t backread chat very much, what is the problem with inheritance and Loki?

[blazing depot]

It’s not the power of evil it’s the power of god

And God’s lessons are so beautiful

[steel stirrup]

[wet condor]

I never do

[lofty fern]

Loki has been domi reversed since birth lol

[brittle basin]

That's my demonic queen.

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/key-and-peele-gif-27565898

[sage temple]

Imu is such a dear soul

[bright torrent]

imcel*

[sage temple]

I dunno, seems to need a whole lot of hoops to jump through with 0 eviidence to show for it

Maybe a different spell

Or a different magician

[steel stirrup]

LMAOOOO

[grand flower]

You need to calm down

[lofty fern]

I know, right?

[sage temple]

right!

[steel stirrup]

😭

[lofty fern]

Maybe we should just go to the tried and true method of GENETICS!!

[hazy turret]

We getting passive aggressive up in here

[bright torrent]

i am having an aneurysm reading this chat

[pine jungle]

Wonder what Imu's house was at magic school

[steel stirrup]

Socrates and HPQ looking like that Thor and Daneryes meme rn fake smiling in each other's faces

[wet condor]

Curse is more fun

Genetics is boring

[hazy turret]

You’re boring

[wet condor]

[lofty fern]

https://tenor.com/view/games-of-thrones-game-no-cersei-cersei-lanister-gif-13100541

[blazing depot]

Go back to work GRRM

finish winds

[lofty fern]

He shall never finish

[steel stirrup]

@sage temple @lofty fern

This yall

[lofty fern]

Everyone knows that

[patent sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-mj-basketball-gif-michael-jordan-no-no-no-no-gif-16220345851539903827

[blazing depot]

Imagine if he didn’t even start it yet

[patent sapphire]

I truly believe he hasn't

[formal wagon]

imagining 🤔

[steel stirrup]

"I KNOW RIGHT?"

😭😭

[lofty fern]

How long has he been working on that?

[steel stirrup]

I gave up hope

[steel stirrup]

Yes

[lofty fern]

I remember being in high school and trying to read the first book

[sage temple]

Still nothing suggests that it's constricted to only be genetic

[grand flower]

Let me know

Let me knowwwwww

[sage temple]

Or restricted

[lofty fern]

I gave up after 2 chapters. It wasn't for me

[lofty fern]

That's ominous lol

[hazy turret]

Why can’t Loki’s eyes be because of a curse and the genetics explain how the curse manifested

[steel stirrup]

Is this a At Your Best song reference or something else

[grand flower]

Future

I think

[steel stirrup]

Oh I see lmaoo

[sage temple]

Prophecy

[grand flower]

All dogs go to heaven

[steel stirrup]

I thought it was the Isley Brothers song or the Aaliyah cover of that song

[grand flower]

Ima DM you

[lofty fern]

Hey, if someone comes out saying they cursed Loki and with real magic and not just hearsay, I will give you all the credit

[hazy turret]

Is this supposed to prove me wrong?

[hazy turret]

That’s pretty funny

[lofty fern]

Because unlike people, all dogs are good and loyal and kind

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/garp-one-piece-monkey-d-luffy-luffy-monkey-d-garp-gif-25814405

[hazy turret]

Don’t some dogs kill people

[steel stirrup]

You ever seen this movie called Cudjoe?

[grand flower]

Your ass better not forget it, heart queen

[hazy turret]

…so a curse is part of a prophecy

[steel stirrup]

Dingos are supposed to be menaces

[hazy turret]

This doesn’t really show what I said is wrong

[pine jungle]

Lol cujo

[lofty fern]

No, I don't watch that crap

[steel stirrup]

Im high my bad

[sage temple]

And there was a prophecy before Loki was born that's reflected in Loki according to Estrid

[steel stirrup]

Are you aware of its existence

[sage temple]

So yes

[wet condor]

That's what I thought it was lol

[pine jungle]

Good movie lmao, good book

[steel stirrup]

Elite Ball knower

[sage temple]

Oh it doesn't

[wet condor]

Isley Brothers >>>>

Aaliyah >>>>>

[hasty sable]

Oda about to make Loki the main character

[sage temple]

Just be aware of it Rokaya

[hazy turret]

I’m confused

Lmao gotcha

[lofty fern]

Well, considering that the beginning of ADGTH starts off with one dog murdering another one, I'd say that line was pure irony

[wet condor]

HPQ admitting to be a Garp fan

We got her folks

[hazy turret]

Let’s be honest, if law didn’t get it then it’s not happening for anyone else

[wet condor]

📸 📸 📸

[grand flower]

What is ADGTH

[formal wagon]

Lets be honest, eggheads ending in december

[wet condor]

Caught her in 4k

[hasty sable]

Law is basically protagonist 2 as it is

[hazy turret]

The only dog garp is is a government dog

[formal wagon]

oh its gone?

[lofty fern]

It's just a line from a movie, nothing more 😔

[sage temple]

Manifest it Archer

Let em know

[grand flower]

You’ll rue this day

[hasty sable]

Ah the Fist of Oppression

[lofty fern]

All Dogs Go To Heaven

[hazy turret]

There’s a line, Law is first and shanks is second

[steel stirrup]

My heart

[grand flower]

@hazy turret check IG

[grand flower]

Oh I’ve seen that

[hazy turret]

I deleted ig

[hasty sable]

Shanks is who Oda wants to be the main character

[steel stirrup]

👀

[grand flower]

That’s not what I asked

[hazy turret]

I hate Instagram I don’t want to download it

[grand flower]

You hate it more than you tolerate me?

Wow

I’m hurt

[hazy turret]

He knows 40 year old characters don’t appeal to the masses

[pine jungle]

Law made up his backstory, he's an OPP atp

[lofty fern]

That's what I thought you were referencing

[hazy turret]

Yes

[tranquil blade]

Last time I opened instagram I got 5 reels in a row using this really bad eminem song for the sound

[tranquil blade]

40 year old men are appealing to many

Well idk about many but there is a niche for it

[hazy turret]

One piece would not be as popular if shanks was the protagonist

And this is just #facts

[sage temple]

Imagine we come back from the flashback and see everything from Loki's pov

[tranquil blade]

This is true

[hasty sable]

https://tenor.com/view/shanks-one-piece-smile-kamusari-divine-departure-gif-7345704563466554363

[hazy turret]

See what

Him killing his dad?

[lofty fern]

It depends on how you framed it and at what point during his life. I think it could work

[steel stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-couple-gif-26407590

[sage temple]

No him fighting Domi Reversi Luffy

[hazy turret]

What in the world

Turn the stove off socrates

Get out of the kitchen PLEASE

[pine jungle]

No keep cooking, practice makes perfect

[sage temple]

[sage temple]

But the parallels work

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-go-elsa-disney-disney-princess-queen-gif-3597315

[hazy turret]

These are perpendiculars

[wet condor]

Luffy getting Domi Reversi'd would shake shit up a bit

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/nightmare-luffy-fighting-gum-stomp-gif-22274145

[wet condor]

Because who is actually expecting him to get Reversi'd

[final trench]

Alr socrates…

Enough is enough

[sage temple]

Remember Thriller Bark

[steel stirrup]

😭😭

[sage temple]

The same thing happened to Luffy

[pine jungle]

Moria remembers.

[sage temple]

He got his shadow taken

[tranquil blade]

Luffy controls Domi Reversi and starts working Imu

[steel stirrup]

"Enough is enough" is sending me

[final trench]

Thinking loki wont get domi reversi’d but LUFFY will is diabolical

[hazy turret]

Domi reversi only works in your homeland anyways so

[final trench]

Plz relax

Theres gotta be a line man

[golden valley]

If Luffy gets DR, thats fried

[sage temple]

Well Moria didn't take Oars' shadow in Thriller Bark

He took Luffy's

[final trench]

And with that im going to bed

[wet condor]

I lowkey welcome the surprise but also disike seeing the characters I like get humiliated like that

[formal wagon]

luffy die

[wet condor]

Fingers cross Zoro doesn't get Reversi'd

Or Jinbe

[sage temple]

This would parallel Loki because Imu wouldn't take Loki into enslavement and Luffy will be Domi-d

Ngl this all might not happen if Imu just doesn't use Domi Reversi again this arc

[pine jungle]

Soc, you should write a long Loki theory and put it into the theories channel

[sage temple]

I did

[pine jungle]

WHAT

brb theory scaling

[steel stirrup]

Link that hoe

[sage temple]

#manga-theories message

Updated version of it: #manga-theories message

[ornate tartan]

this serious?😂

[sage temple]

#manga-theories message

[sage temple]

I mean yeah kinda

I just see the parallels between Imu and Gecko Moria

And I feel like if Moria could strip Luffy of his shadow, Imu could strip Luffy of his consciousness

[hasty sable]

Need to hedge our bets on which characters will be Domi Reverse candidates

[sage temple]

True true

[steel stirrup]

!cook

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211111343852228638/1217510693411229746/cook.png?ex=66044a31&is=65f1d531&hm=fda7fc91afb3dda1c7a90192efda3372e268931d0bcc5db2b97d635b65b260ae&

[sage temple]

I've made 3 theories I think about Loki so far in #manga-theories and this is basically the combination of all of them

[lofty fern]

I don't think Imu uses it willy nilly. he only seems to use it when he thinks it's important.

[sage temple]

Wait a minute

[steel stirrup]

I love that song

[sage temple]

@hazy turret what happened to the chapter theories events

[stable dock]

Davy Jones is the Earth God, the former King of the World. Blackbeard has his will now.
Imu is the Forest God who sent forth Demons (Domi Reversi).
Poseidon is the Sea God, now Shirahoshi.
Nika the Sun God, was Joyboy during the Void Century, now is Luffy.

[royal orchid]

socrates wants to go back to the present because then he'll be able to try and find something that fits that empty square in the left

[hazy turret]

I have never been in charge of that ever

[sage temple]

True it's reserved for that

[hazy turret]

I don’t even step foot in that channel

[sage temple]

Oh I'm prolly mixing your name color with someone else

[grand flower]

Is that what he asked

[tranquil blade]

Chill

[formal wagon]

Chill = cold
what month is cold?

January

[tranquil blade]

Chillt likew sdwecnnver eggheda

[formal wagon]

what?

im talking about january right now

[hazy turret]

Ask deez balls

[sage temple]

Dw he answered me in mod chat

We like to talk there

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/let's-take-a-look-lets-take-a-look-let's-have-a-look-lets-have-a-look-seal-gif-1233467109289662120

[blazing mantle]

Chapter in two days

I’m so excited

[proud pivot]

def

it will be great

[grand flower]

It’s 9 11!

[formal wagon]

too soon

[tranquil blade]

It actually is I thought you were lying to me

[grand flower]

When did I ask you

[grand flower]

I would never

[fallen meteor]

me when one piece is ending

like egghead in december

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/concentrating-rdcworld1-meditating-mark-rdcworld-gif-1094224017770633245

[fallen meteor]

this gif sent me on an activation sequence moment

i studied with a girl that had very brown eyes all her life

then one week she appeared with lenses as blue as those

and got mad we noticed they were lenses

[tranquil blade]

Well sometimes it's the other way around tho

I've seen people wear brown colored contacts if they have very very blue eyes naturally

[blazing mantle]

Blue eyes

https://tenor.com/view/how-people-with-blue-eyes-look-at-you-blue-eyes-people-blink-scary-gif-3937667069785399993

[fallen meteor]

blue/green eyes are a huge thing here

[tranquil blade]

Oh

[fallen meteor]

if someone has it its instantly a +100 in aura

[tranquil blade]

It's kinda random here with eye colors but I have dark blue eyes

I rather that than the light blue eyes at least

[fallen meteor]

mine are the regular dark brown

i thought they were black but theres nobody with actual black eyes

[trim lily]

same

but man dark brown eyes are so boring

[frail cradle]

is there hints?

[fallen meteor]

break week dude

[grand flower]

Lmaoooo

[trim lily]

no chapter

[royal orchid]

I got hazel eyes

[grand flower]

My eyes look like mud

[royal orchid]

like green with a couple inner bits in light brown

[frail cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-vader-backstroke-of-the-west-the-third-gathers-do-not-want-gif-18579638

[grand flower]

I think it has a blue ring

[fallen meteor]

shuron thats like anime eyes or something

[steel stirrup]

Dark brown but they shine if the light hit them hoes right

[fallen meteor]

my dad had blue eyes that turn green later on the day

[frail cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-brown-pupil-brown-eye-sunlighted-eye-gif-19903966

[fallen meteor]

so mad that i didnt get this shit

[steel stirrup]

Type shit

[frail cradle]

ur dad gunko?

[steel stirrup]

Some of my cousins have mood eyes

[royal orchid]

what the fuck

he done got nitro eyes

[fallen meteor]

its the light

when its darker it looks very green

but when its sunny its clearly blue

[pine jungle]

Mine are green/grey

[royal orchid]

I have a friend that actually has black eyes

[formal wagon]

mine are ends/ december

[fallen meteor]

its impossible

[royal orchid]

her iris is so dark it's pretty much black

[fallen meteor]

it can be really really really dark brown

[fallen meteor]

mine are seem at morning and so at night

[tranquil blade]

I wish I had the Luffy eyes

I wish it was real

[pine jungle]

Blank stare

[royal orchid]

if you shine a flashlight on it maybe you can see something but otherwise it's just •

[fallen meteor]

thought you said you wished you were real

deep shit

[tranquil blade]

Well I do but

[grand flower]

Lemme see if I still see em

I do still see em

But idk if I’m seeing things

[pine jungle]

Nah, that's a real coloration

[fallen meteor]

i'd post my eye if my phone wasnt all the way away on my bed

[pine jungle]

I have a friend that's an eye nerd

She's obsessed with everyone's eyes

[fallen meteor]

can we even post eyes in 2025

i think people can steal your stuff at this point

like scan your iris can they do that

[pine jungle]

Wouldn't do it here

[fallen meteor]

its so over

[royal orchid]

unless your phone is a professional camera I wouldn't count on that

[indigo yacht]

The iris, like your throat and fingerprint; are all unique

[sage temple]

Hawk Tuah

[fallen meteor]

i'm shy this is how my eyes look

the fucking spoiler is already funny as fuck

[dense haven]

your butthole too

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/alucard-luka-gif-13991728

[indigo yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/curb-your-enthusiasm-larry-david-confused-unsure-undecided-gif-3294343

Yea but we’re not gonna use that to tell who’s who

[tranquil blade]

I like how you can tell it's still in whatever editing software you used to make your eye red

[fallen meteor]

i just googled 'very edited eyes'

[royal orchid]

I sense a unique disturbance in area 5, I know who that is!

[hazy turret]

Ugly as hell

[fallen meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1389720377432866979/Illustration95.gif

[tranquil blade]

One of the worst gifs I've ever seen

I hate the way they did that

[formal wagon]

We asked 30 mangakas when egghead ends. their answers will shock you

We asked 30 twenty two year olds what music they like. Their answers will make you rip your teeth out

[tranquil blade]

Benson Boone probably

[ionic palm]

this gif is warcrime level of disaster

[formal wagon]

at least 3 of them said shoegaze

[tranquil blade]

Did like 6 or 7 of them say uhh

[formal wagon]

december

[pine jungle]

There went another braincell

[tranquil blade]

1 of them definitely said like death grips and they need to be taken care of

[formal wagon]

these are only early november levels of december posting

[pine jungle]

Oh I was talking about the music taste

December posting is life

[wet heron]

@wraith mantle cool could name it Rocks instead

[grand flower]

Why didn't Oden help in Me Valley? Is he stupid?

[tranquil blade]

Does Garling push 21 year old Oden to mid diff

[grand flower]

when was Oden 21

[tranquil blade]

I think around that time?

[sage temple]

Absolutely not

[tranquil blade]

Cause I think he was like 39 when he died

Which was 20 years ago

[sage temple]

How strong do we even know Garling is

[tranquil blade]

Garling is probably at least vice admiral level

[grand flower]

what a way to phrase that

[tranquil blade]

Maybe slightly higher

[grand flower]

Currently or at Me Valley?

VA at Me Valley looks about right

[tranquil blade]

The Valley

Currently he's mooching off of Imu so

He probably has a transformation now

[sage temple]

Probably is quite a flexible word

[grand flower]

Imu probably gave the transformation to the sword cause it's worth more than Garling

[wet heron]

If u wanna title scale (which loads of people do) he is strong ash cause he’s the champion of Sharon Valley where rocks garp roger wb bm etc were the main players and he’s the friggin CHAMPION

[tranquil blade]

Hey yknow what I will admit he did give Xebec some cardio exercise, had him huff a few times

That might be his most impressive feat

[grand flower]

rocks used garling as a heavy bag i'm cryin and garling fans should be too

[wet heron]

I believe Oda will fatten him up later on

He has to gass the goroseis anyways

[grand flower]

for garp to feast on

[sage temple]

Ah I forgot about allat

[grand flower]

so did oda lmfao

[sage temple]

😭

[tranquil blade]

That champion title is so damn fraudulent, for all we know he got because he killed the most slaves

and that actually could be true as well

[wet heron]

Yeah he probably did kill a whole lot of them, champion could mean in the context of the native hunt thing

[neon burrow]

Damn domi reversi is op

Rocks got done hoed 😔

[proud pivot]

@steel stirrup add a strawberry next to ur name, i think itll look good

[sage temple]

Imu is about to give Garling a stimulus Yokai Zoan

[steel stirrup]

Why a strawberry?

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/asda-gif-17942224497192232341

[tranquil blade]

He might finally be Jack level

[sage temple]

Garling with Gorosei powers puts him above Luffy ngl

[proud pivot]

shit why not

strawberries r one of the best

[steel stirrup]

Idk

[clever idol]

Lmaoooo

[steel stirrup]

😭

[tranquil blade]

That blade might be a supreme grade ngl it may actually be worth more than him

[clever idol]

Gorosei powers doing a lot of heavy lifting

[sage temple]

True that

[tranquil blade]

I used to think blades being graded didnt matter but I guess it actually does have some uses

[grand flower]

Enma is just a great grade

What did Mihawk go thru to master Yoru

[vestal heath]

ew Reddit

[proud pivot]

Me thinks yoru was already a supreme grade and Mihawk making it black puts it a tier above the supreme blades

[tranquil blade]

Well no there is like some thing (it is supplemental keep in mind) that said something about Whitebeard's nagitana being supreme grade allowed it to handle Whitebeard's full strength without breaking

[trim lily]

its still a bit absurd we havent seen another black blade

[tranquil blade]

Well technically

[trim lily]

id love to say greenbull but it unfortunately isnt confirmed

[proud pivot]

We saw rocks almost making one this chapter

[dense haven]

almost like swordsmanship in one piece is an afterthought

[lofty fern]

How mad would fans be if Oda just admits that Mihawk just painted his blade black?

[trim lily]

it would be funny if mihawk just lied to zoro

[proud pivot]

Pretty mad i think

[lofty fern]

I think that was just armament on the sword

[dense haven]

the thing about black blades is that there are only 2 colors in the manga so unless someone states it's one of them nobody will ever know

oda should've made them gray blades like shanks hair

[trim lily]

oda making greenbull's sword black just for fun

[dense haven]

red blades

[mighty shell]

second funniest thing oda could possibly do, second only to canonizing zosan

[tranquil blade]

I just saw this ping, why did you say that

[near scroll]

one of the more common ones

[royal orchid]

he should have made them kiss in that scene just saying

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-zoro-sanji-kiss-horrified-gif-4228627

[lofty fern]

Why is he trying to kiss his eyes?

[dense haven]

I'm s believer of the mpreg zoro theory

[trim lily]

yep thats a vivi ancestor alright

[dense haven]

reincarnation piece

[lofty fern]

I don't trust Toei colors

Not after the travesty of the holy knights

[tranquil blade]

I mean if we're gonna be real Lili is for sure just gonna have blue hair

[sage temple]

This bloodline must've reproduced asexually

[wraith mantle]

Insane levels of cope

[proud pivot]

What is there to not trust in that bro

[tranquil blade]

She's probably gonna be identical to Vivi almost

[lofty fern]

Did you see that woman? She looked horrible.

[dense haven]

hey vivi ain't that ugly

[royal orchid]

the kings of alabasta are just facades to hide the fact that the queens reproduce via budding

[trim lily]

titi when she was young was literally just vivi too

they reincarnate

[lofty fern]

And her outfit was atrocious. And after Oda showed us the actual colors of the knights, I'm convinced they messed up

[wraith mantle]

Ngl

Lily is pretty

[dense haven]

oda only showed the ones in elbaf

[lofty fern]

Didn't she have like gray-blue hair

[wraith mantle]

But not 800 years can’t get over her pretty

[trim lily]

the anime showed her being greyish-blue when she was older, but the colored manga also gave her the same blue hair

[lofty fern]

Yeah, but since their uniforms match for the most part, that clown suit that had that girl in in the anime had to be off

[lofty fern]

Oda doesn't do the colored manga, but I wouldn't be surprised

[trim lily]

the goth knight is objectively incorrect yeah

[proud pivot]

Fuck that hoe polo, he's a bitchass fr your entire character is a joke lil pup, Marco better

[native seal]

wtf did polo do

he chill

[lofty fern]

Marco IS a polo

[native seal]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-chill-guy-just-a-chill-guy-relax-gif-1579445140409713118

[trim lily]

what is this some kinda marco polo

[wraith mantle]

This nigga schedules his slander

[dense haven]

oda save the goth baddie

we can't be sure it's incorrect because queen has black hair in the manga too

[sage temple]

I wonder when they opted for i as the last letter instead of y

[trim lily]

cause of queen nefertiti

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/think-bro-gif-22403438

[trim lily]

an egyptian queen

[sage temple]

Lol imagine her name was tity

nefertity

[lofty fern]

Because Lily's name is actually written differently than Vivi and Titi, which is just the same symbol twice. People just want to make it Lili to make it all match. But Lily is more accurate.

[trim lily]

i dont know why oda would suddenly break the trend

[royal orchid]

I like it being Lili more, it's a unique name and keeps the order

[sage temple]

Same

[wraith mantle]

Lily is related to Amazon lily

[royal orchid]

you mean Eiichiro "Elbaph is the correct version" Oda?

[sage temple]

Wait what if they went through the alphabet back then

like aiay, biby, cicy, didy and so on

So they had to switch the y to an i

[royal orchid]

didy

[dense haven]

diddy

[trim lily]

iirc the lily in amazon lily isnt spelled the same as the lily in nefertari lily

so lol

[royal orchid]

!oda2

[tropic nova]

https://i.imgur.com/K0dZ1qJ.png

[sage temple]

[lofty fern]

Because it doesn't work the same way in Japanese as it does in English. I can pronounce Lili and Lily the same way in English because that's just how the language and names work. But in Japanese, it would sound like Lee Lee rather than Lily.

[wraith mantle]

You think this gonna stop Oda?

Oda is in his retcon phase

[sage temple]

Isn't lee lee optimal

[royal orchid]

so what are other examples of oda being a name hack

[sage temple]

Like vivi is vee vee

and titi is tee tee

[royal orchid]

Lili / Lily
Elbaf / Elbaph

what else

[dense haven]

raftel

[native seal]

im sick of this shit

[sage temple]

Holy delay mods

What are we doing

[dense haven]

mids

[sage temple]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-levely-marijoa-mary-geoise-celestial-dragon-gif-2616605550485555154

[lofty fern]

Not if you want it to be Lily

[sage temple]

Oh

[royal orchid]

joined in march 2024

[trim lily]

yeah but like why is it lily lmao

[royal orchid]

another account stolen

[trim lily]

oda already established a trend with vivi and titi, feels random to suddenly change

[sage temple]

Wait so lily = lee lee and lili = ?

[lofty fern]

Probably related to the flower.

[lofty fern]

Just a weird name

[royal orchid]

lily = lih lee
lili = lee lee

you put your tongue back a little

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/lTe9xkNArKK.gif

[lofty fern]

Not everyone in Alabasta has to have the same name scheme

[trim lily]

the usual japanese name for the lily flower is リリー, which is whats used for amazon lily. oda uses リリィ for lili

[lofty fern]

Also it would feel a bit silly

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-cat-muscle-muscle-cat-meme-gif-551006329262101208

[royal orchid]

!hackpost

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294551467820580864/1235937534870294538/1509499313288.jpg?ex=66363006&is=6634de86&hm=d4ad778d7e81abae44d0841e954aa54624a432055514d201c42045e921998feb&

[lofty fern]

The character you see ィ, does basically the same thing as ー. If he wanted it to match Vivi and Titi, he would drop that entirely and just leave it as リリ.

[dense haven]

doom made the chart

!doom

[tropic nova]

ONE PIECE IS DYING AND IT'S BECAUSE OF SHILLS LIKE YOU

[trim lily]

i know

just saying oda (probably) isnt referencing the flower

[lofty fern]

It's possible. that he just wanted to make it different from Amazon Lily

So people wouldn't associate the two

[trim lily]

yeah i was just gonna say, he probably didnt want people to associate her with amazon lily

[dense haven]

bro pulled the video receipts

[lofty fern]

But considering Imu's flower room, I think Lily = the flower is on the money

[formal wagon]

maybe imu and blackbeard are good friends

[trim lily]

i think theyd get along

theyll pull a big mom and kaido

[royal orchid]

riri-i
riri

[formal wagon]

like an egghead gets along with december

[lofty fern]

BB torches Imu's flower room and Imu will go nuts

[trim lily]

you think theyre great enemies but actually theyre

[stuck pagoda]

I beg to differ

[native seal]

bro 😭

[stuck pagoda]

If bb knows anything about his past he definitely wants revenge

[native seal]

i can never be prepared for what im about to see

[royal orchid]

you made my phone request and load this guy's face

[wraith mantle]

Shit funny cause it’s true

[stuck pagoda]

The one piece was promised to them 3000 years ago

[wraith mantle]

Ok chill

[stuck pagoda]

I’m not antisemetic dw

Just anti Zionist

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/gFwLk0Q1zJT.gif

[wraith mantle]

It’s the same thing lol

[stuck pagoda]

No tf it’s not

Bro what 😂

[wraith mantle]

It is

[royal orchid]

the spirit of meek continues to manifest itself

[stuck pagoda]

That’s actually antiseptic what u just said

Antisemetic ***

[wraith mantle]

Anti septic

[stuck pagoda]

Isreal does not represent all Jews on the earth

[royal orchid]

also no it isn't khalid

[stuck pagoda]

The bombing of children in Gaza does not reflect Judaism

[stuck pagoda]

Dam auto correct 😂

[wraith mantle]

I can discuss in DMs

No politics allowed here

[lofty fern]

I think we need to lay off the politics before anything gets started

[stuck pagoda]

Bet bet

Yea u can if u want i just wanted to clarify the difference rq

So people don’t misconstrue

[dense haven]

yall like one piece?

[stuck pagoda]

Hy

[royal orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738580480437387264/1412073551854440448/Animation9.gif

[lofty fern]

So next chapter, will we get Harald taking out the horns?

[stuck pagoda]

One can hope

[royal orchid]

I can see it not being

[stuck pagoda]

I haven’t seen him anywhere near god valley so far tbh

Idk how they’d sneak a giant on an island like that

[lofty fern]

I do wonder how they will even find out about Rocks considering the newspapers will never report on his again.

[wraith mantle]

sent you an fr if you are interested

[stuck pagoda]

Sounds good

[royal orchid]

didn't his whole existence get covered up

[lofty fern]

I have to hand it to CP6. They really did a good job erasing Rocks and the Rocks crew from history

[proud pivot]

[royal orchid]

I'm thinking ex rocks pirates announce his death to people of interest and that's the cutaway to Harald coming back to continue the story

[lofty fern]

The way last chapter made it sound it was as if they failed, but they actually did a great job getting rid of Rocks' memory

[stuck pagoda]

They didn’t even gentrify him they straight up wiped his memory from existence 😂

[royal orchid]

who was the king of Hachinosu BB killed does anyone remember

[lofty fern]

it would be funny after all that, Xebec's body still reforms and Imu is the one that ultimately kills Rocks

[lofty fern]

You mean Wang?

[royal orchid]

oh it was ochoku?

[stuck pagoda]

His stocks would be insane

[royal orchid]

I don't remember BB killing him

idk do you guys think he was the king of hachinosu after rocks for all those years?

[lofty fern]

We don't know if BB killed him, but Wang was the one over fullalead all that time

[stuck pagoda]

I’m lost as far as that goes ngl

[barren token]

[grand flower]

Yeah I remember that. They’re super strong but that probably also means way harder than great grades to use

[stuck pagoda]

What does he even do? 😭🙏🏽

They may have forgotten but I never will 😈

If he doesn’t cut a meteor with a single sword swing next chapter he a bum

[frail cradle]

its confirmed Wang Zhi was the ruler of Hachinosu after everybody went to GV

and he stayed there until rocky port incident happened where BB, Law, & Koby ousted him

[formal wagon]

did someone say wang zhi?

[snow locust]

Betrayed his crew and got Shakky kidnapped then lived a life of luxury ruling an island for 40 years

[trim lily]

he got off completely scot free

[thick mango]

drum island is a wg country right?

[sage temple]

He diced the island into centimeter thick squares

The island just doesn't realize it yet

[stuck pagoda]

Ahh I see

[formal wagon]

yeah, they attend the reverie

[frail cradle]

king dalton

[thick mango]

so we obviously cant take bb's plan at face value right

though it would be hilarious if bb's ultimate goal has already been acheived by wapol

[frail cradle]

its one of his plans

i’d say this is one of his smaller plans

[thick mango]

its a stepping stone like being a warlod, 100% its not the goal in itelf

[frail cradle]

yea

Blackbeard the man of many plans

Don Krieg who???

[iron oriole]

Krieg gets oneshot by Tama

Faster than Shanks oneshotting Kid

[frail cradle]

faster than lucky roo oneshotting mountain bandits

[ocean totem]

And most of them were poorly made

Well no, all of them were poorly made

Blackbeard's plans have been terrible in the series up to now

[thick mango]

the rough ideas are there, the specific execution is unplanned/sloppy

[unique lagoon]

we should list all his plans pre ts

waited years in the shadows as WB crew
killed someone to get the yami thats a success
Tried making a name for himself tried catching luffy during knockup stream that failed and destroyed his raft

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard: Oh this isn’t my plan. No, this is just a goof.

[proud pivot]

blackbeard plans have mostly been successful

[barren token]

Blackbeard plans are successful because fate is on his side

Evil luffy

[hasty sable]

Blackbeard is a combination of low cunning and opportunity landing in his lap rather than being some grand strategist

Most of the time things do not work out for him the way he expects them to lol

But he stays winning

[formal wagon]

goatbeard they call him

[frigid gulch]

Goatbeard because he took out Wang Zhi

[tranquil blade]

Yeah but it has nothing to do with the plan going as expected, the plan usually goes to shit half way through but he still somehow gets what he wants through luck

Like he gets to Impel Down hoping his warlord status would help him, it doesnt help him almost at all, so he just says fuck it and raids the place

[formal wagon]

why i outta

[royal orchid]

what yall know about ganzack

[formal wagon]

nothing

[cunning narwhal]

nothing

[frigid gulch]

nothing

[fallen dust]

wrong server

[leaden tiger]

what yall know about balzack

[unique lagoon]

totally dint notice SBS 113 came out

[scenic dirge]

balzack is my goat

[hazy turret]

Isn’t it oughta?

[formal wagon]

no

[trim lily]

why i outta here

[hazy turret]

Oh ok :D

[azure acorn]

i believe sanji and zoro will kiss after they find one piece

[formal wagon]

i believe egghead ends in december

[azure acorn]

yeah

the elbaff episodes will start gettin released after june or smt

in a seasonal way

so the egg head ark ends in the late desembur

[unique lagoon]

i wonder how much anime only will start reading
cuz of the 3month break

[formal wagon]

🤔 was there an uptick of whitenames and anime onlies in the channel when they were redoing FMI?

[drowsy sun]

Not reading the Manga is so criminal lol

[unique lagoon]

prob? thats 6months so

[thick mango]

I don't think the anime is that bad I'm just too impatient to be like 60 chapters behind when it's available

[unique lagoon]

has anyone wondered that the original 5 gorosei are just the embodiment of the zoan fruit they posses?

[frail kindle]

I saw that

[dense rapids]

Blackbeard and Luffy team up foreshadowing 🤣

[unique lagoon]

luffy hated caribou and still worked with him

just depends if the crew persuade him

[frail cradle]

Originally, luffy didnt want to keep Caesar iirc

[formal wagon]

i hope people start william henry harrison posting

[frail cradle]

but luffy can always see the bigger picture, just like when he punched crocodile

[frail cradle]

AI?

[formal wagon]

no this was a president

[frail cradle]

sorry not american

[formal wagon]

no worries most americans don't know that guy either

[dense rapids]

Ngl if the fate of the world is at stake this team up is happening (if the plot is going that route”

[frail cradle]

do you think america is the greatest country in the world?

[torn stirrup]

tbf he's like one of the most obscure ones

[formal wagon]

i just think his face is scary

[frail cradle]

fair enough

[torn stirrup]

tfw you die a month into your tenure

[rare ivy]

Luffy Buggy team up

[blazing depot]

I remember back in 9th grade history class we had to do a presentation on a president and I picked him just to fuck with my teacher lol

[rare ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-and-buggy-friends-buggy-luffy-celebration-luffy-and-buggy-happy-luffy-and-buggy-party-luffy-and-buggy-celebration-gif-12047623703552927056

[formal wagon]

lol

[blazing depot]

Somehow I got an A for the audacity

[formal wagon]

😭 you might have just done a good job ngl

[blazing depot]

He was the only president who we couldn’t do cuz he did nothing

Plus it was Covid and I was bored as fuck

[formal wagon]

oh ok

[trim lily]

surely he did at least one thing in that month

[blazing depot]

This was like the beginning of it, I was at home doing assignments so I might as well have fun

[blazing depot]

Some Indian treaties that’s it

[dense rapids]

Buggy Top 1

[fringe ice]

Notice how he only needed to team up against mihawk

[olive sigil]

It wasn’t even a team up

He just saved Luffy that’s it

[formal wagon]

l

l*ffy

[olive sigil]

Still not funny

Stick to cookie jokes

[formal wagon]

😐

[dense rapids]

Because Mihawk isn’t strong enough to hurt buggy

[frail cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/dracule-mihawk-shookt-one-piece-gif-13967713

[olive sigil]

My face every time you make the Luffy joke

[frail cradle]

buggy > ice berg

[olive sigil]

Pre time skip lucci level feat

[formal wagon]

why are you being mean

[olive sigil]

Because hating Luffy is mean

[formal wagon]

you hate law i hate luffy

[olive sigil]

It’s not the same

[frail cradle]

https://x.com/gin_oji/status/1949496925092303281

Gin Oji-san (@gin_oji)

Mihawk casually cutting the island sized iceberg from the pressure of his swing is the most underrated feat in the series.

X · Jul 27, 2025, 3:47 PM

[formal wagon]

yes it is

[olive sigil]

Luffy doesn’t deserve the hate. Law does

[formal wagon]

you don't have to be mean

if I said you weren't funny everytime you made an i hate law joke i'd be an asshole

[olive sigil]

All it took was a bullet

[olive sigil]

But those aren’t jokes

[formal wagon]

i really don't like luffy

[olive sigil]

So it’s not a joke?

[formal wagon]

It's a joke and not a joke. I don't like the character but i play it up for fun because i'm trying to have a good time

[fringe ice]

But buggy himself is..

[unique lagoon]

[dense rapids]

That’s his own attack being redirected back at him

[frail cradle]

i see two impostors in the back

[lament socket]

Idk what you're talking about they're very loyal employees

[fringe ice]

That's why I said buggy himself is (strong enough to hurt buggy)

[frail cradle]

yes very. the pride of galley la company

[lament socket]

I just realized that's the name of the elbaph giants

[frail cradle]

kaku the parkour guy + lucci the ventriloquist?

[frail cradle]

it was implied the company name was inspired by those carpenter band of giants

[rare ivy]

Tom might have been their apprentice during his early days

[olive sigil]

I still think hoicheal and Michael were the real traitors

Kaku was framed

[olive sigil]

I think they disappeared long before the story

[formal wagon]

😦

[unique lagoon]

tom did read the pluton Blueprint ye?

then ice berg

[frail cradle]

he read it, remember it, and rewrite it

bro werent using cloud storage

[unique lagoon]

not sure if tom being a fishman has any connection to him having the BP in the first place

did roger found it and gave it to him?

who knows

[frail cradle]

no

tom had it from his master

[unique lagoon]

ngl i forgot that detail

thats all we know ? he has a master?

[olive sigil]

Who was?

[frail cradle]

pluton was passed from master to apprentices

just like poneglyph language

[unique lagoon]

can you send the panel need to save that for future context

[frail cradle]

ehh

[unique lagoon]

dont tell me this is headcanon buddy

[olive sigil]

Can you send Tom’s master

[unique lagoon]

wiki says its in 358
scanning it
nothing here so far

[frail cradle]

its not

[unique lagoon]

maybe 399

[frail cradle]

its either 356,357,358

either when spandam called franky + usopp when CP9 caught them

or in tom flashback

idk

[unique lagoon]

yep its legit

saving this

it is 399

[frail cradle]

here you go

im not making headcanons bro

[unique lagoon]

well i was asking its fine we got the panel

[frail cradle]

its similar to the poneglyph language

[unique lagoon]

damn water 7 is very old huh?

[frail cradle]

except this isnt family exclusives

[frail cradle]

best arc ever

[unique lagoon]

was it ever mentioned that the giants was good shipwrights

[frail cradle]

yes recently. in elbaph

forget which chapter

[rare ivy]

Yes

[frail cradle]

theres a reason why giants used to rule the world bro

and one of them is bcs they built good ships to sail

[unique lagoon]

i wont be surprise if during the void
it was the giants vs lunarians

as a main army

the automaton army on the moon could be first world war

[stray prism]

chapter soon

[young nebula]

elbaph

[magic meteor]

is shanks a davy

[young nebula]

english / foreign terms are written in katakana after all

[sand plinth]

whats up with moria i feel like hes entangled in so many plotlines

1. the whole wano thing
2. him having a bunch of dead rocks pirates bodies
3. him vanishing after doffy tried to kill him
4. the whole hachinosu thing

[warm thunder]

hopefully perona is successful in saving him

[sand plinth]

pretty sure it was confirmed right?

[keen quiver]

They already escaped

[warm thunder]

we havent seen them leave the island yet iirc

[sand plinth]

nah i looked for the panel hes out, gimme a sec

im guessing i cant post pics but its chapter 1126

[blazing depot]

Apparently he got freed

Basically Koby cut a deal with Perona to free him right before the Garp Kuzan fight

[rose rune]

Yeah, he was mentioned having escaped

[tardy void]

?!pics

istg

!pics

[tropic nova]

You are able to post pictures after you reach level 10. Check your level by typing ?rank in #bots.

[rare ivy]

Perona cut a deal with Koby and not the other way around

[blazing depot]

Same difference who cares

[rare ivy]

Koby was locked up, Perona offered to free him in exchange of him helping her freeing Moria

[grand flower]

Cutting a deal works both ways

[rare ivy]

True but the one who initiates the negotiations needs to put first while mentioning the details of the deal. It is a step by step process and needs to be explained from the beginning of the negotiation talks.

[sand plinth]

this is such a nitpick who cares

[rare ivy]

I do

It holds an importance. Perona initiating the deal holds a lot of significance in this deal

[blazing depot]

https://tenor.com/view/lebowski-sobchak-rules-gif-10893628

Grammar rules

[grand flower]

Honestly I think the significance is just Oda showing how all the righteous marines end up willing to work with pirates

[fringe ice]

It's more than black and white

[sand plinth]

koby specifically being more understanding of pirates so he can team up with pirates against the wg (unlike a certain someone who knows that literal devils control the world and is strong enough to fight them, yet doesnt....) as the next generation of the marines is nice

[fringe ice]

More so he understands the reality

[grand flower]

Garp literally teamed up with pirates to punch the head of the WG

Garp also is not strong enough to fight then

[sand plinth]

[grand flower]

Roger had the one piece and couldnt stop Imu lol

What’s Garp gonna do beside lose

[sand plinth]

i mean there is clearly a whole destiny thing going on, but dragon has no haki no fruit no experience and is fighting back

[glass plume]

well did Roger really have it?

he couldn't access most of it

[sand plinth]

and the government is really afraid of the emperors, showing that they actually do need the warlods and admirals and the martine and whatever else to keep pirates in check

[glass plume]

Dragon has haki, it's almost guaranteed lol

[grand flower]

So is Garp

[sand plinth]

during god valley*

[glass plume]

ah mb

[grand flower]

Garp is actively fostering a counter culture to preserve tje Marines’ moral fiber against the CDs

[fringe ice]

Garp understood he couldn't change the system on his own so he raised good marines, kept corrupt marines in check, refused to become an Admiral to retain more freedom and not take orders from CDs, and saved tons of people throughout the years

[grand flower]

He openly talks to his subordinates about how the CDs are scum

He teaches them to save innocent lives

[fringe ice]

He also probably created SWORD

[grand flower]

And on missions, he acts as their dive tank so they can be free to get people to safety

[grand flower]

It was probably Sengoku

[sand plinth]

imo the only thing that will redeem garp for me is if he knows some destiny stuff that prevents him from being able to do any substantial good

[grand flower]

Garp would see sword as a redundant

[alpine trench]

Garp doesn’t need redemption

[grand flower]

He’s doint substantial good by saving people and teaching the Navy a moral code that ensures that when the rebellion happens, they will help it

[alpine trench]

What’s there for him to be redeemed for

[grand flower]

Also

[fringe ice]

It's a marine force that operates outside the jurisdiction of the force, sounds like something he had his hand in

[grand flower]

Garp doesnt participate in the atrocities rhe WG commits

[fringe ice]

Sengoku too

[sand plinth]

he watched the navy hunt down innocient mothers and children for years and then stayed on for another 2 decades

[grand flower]

Koby and Drake do the same code word answer that Sengoku and Corazon do

Sengoku raised both Drake and Corazon

[fringe ice]

You should read my response to this

[grand flower]

Corazon turning in his marine code to infiltrate pirates is what Drake did with Kaido’s crew

So I’m pretty sure Sengoku created sword

[sand plinth]

i think that knowing about the atrocities and doing nothing to prevent them, when you have the power to is not a good look

even if u skirt around the idea of him actually being a proud part of the same organisation

[grand flower]

No he didn’t. He found out the Navy was tricked into helping the CDs hunt people, something he didn’t know was happening till he got to the island, and then punched an Elder because of it

[fringe ice]

What is he to do, beat up every CD? He gets jailed for life and nothing changes. He chose the long game where he actually makes a difference

[grand flower]

Garp then instructed his platoon to save as many residents as possible

They were able to do so because Garp is their dive tank who charges in and handles the big threats

Garp does this exact same strategy in Hachinosu to save people

[sand plinth]

a character like garp works on a small scale, where he knows little and affects little
eg. koby

[grand flower]

So aside from Garp actually saving lives the entire time he’s in the Navy

That’s 50+ years of saving people

[sand plinth]

but he knows everything and is one of the strongest people on the planet

[grand flower]

Garp also teaches every marine who will listen to him that the CDs are scum, it’s okay to attack them, and they exist to save people

[fringe ice]

Is this a critique of Garp as a person or the writing of Garp as a character?

[grand flower]

So was Roger

What did Roger do about Imu again?

[fringe ice]

You don't seem to be reading my responses