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based on what lol
GV Roger and Garp are stronger than Kaido
dragon, shanks, mihawk will powercliff the old gen
Idk I'm baiting
just letting u know
there's no doubt
Wano Kaido
yes
The silhouette Loki we see proposing to Lola is actually Road in disguise @fallen meteor
if burn scar is panda man then your right
That puts them in curreny luffy level?
Its so fire
YC never misses
Luffy cant beat Kaido in a 1v1
not yet
Luffy had tons of support and lost 5 times
I think Luffy is a step below them
thats not a W
Not quite I think, we know Garp gets stronger after GV and he needed to train to beat Chinjao. The same was surely true for Roger. Nobody peaked in GV aside from Rocks
chinjiao upscale is crazy these days
except he beat chinjao with only armament lol
Assumption
i already forget that character ngl
Chinjao was stronger than half of DR Rocks
Craaazy
Kidd is a rival of gear 5 luffy
Xebec is probably at worst emperor level and at best equal to Roger or Whitebeard, but I can very well see Whitebeard and Roger being stronger
Kidd is gonna get smoked by him
chinjao > bum ass garling
dont mention that character hes not real
doesn't mean shit
Such cope...
no? its literally stated in databooks
Chinjao was him
Who we slandering
Kid is from the same generation as Luffy, a rival tho? 
GV Garp, GV Roger > Wano Kaido > G5 Luffy
Chinjao was hunting admirals back in his day btw
Urouge
This is right
Oh God they pulled out the > and <
That's why Garp had to put him down
It's that time
_< johto-chan
Databooks that are written by a separate team of writers, also written before ACoC was even introduced
GV Garp, GV Roger > Wano Kaido > Kizaru = G5 Luffy
Doesn't matter, totally irrelevant databook
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Passed out for 2 seconds after sending this
Lufffy & Teach over everybody by the end .. thatâs all that really matters lol
I actually was thinking about doing this but I have too much shame
Be freed from it
WHY WAS U THINKING ABT DOING IT đ đ
That's not nearly as bad as all the 67 messages you send 
thats mentally nerfed kizaru, i want prime and not conflicted kizaru
here we go again
yeah I think prime Kizaru is equal to Luffy
mentally nerfedđ
Sb are you watching the new vince gilligan show?
When Loki 1v1s Domi Harald, it'll be official
Roger>Kaido>BM>Mihawk>Shanks>Loki>Domi Rocks=Domi Harald
Mentally buffed Kizaru when
Post psychiatrist kizaru
I've probably sent 60 maybe even like 70 of those messages atp
arsal took the bait into the > <
I am not, but I have heard about this
is it good?
Calm down

Itâs a W because Luffy is alive and well and Kaido is not and his dream were crushed
Ok OP magazines? and No ACOC was introduced look at the sky split between shanks and WB, it wasn't used consistently that's it
Give it 5 years, I'll be right
BM over Mihawk Shanks Domi Rocks and Harald is a bold take
I know
soon. after he finishes therapy
You seriously have got nothing to put roger over Domi rocks lol, your just full of assumptions
I havenât watched it yet but the internet has apparently bestowed it the title of having one of the best pilot episodes of all time. Which is a little scary lol
Making a 67 movie so its #western-series and we can't talk about it here
Imu => Joyboy >= Davy Jones > Rocks > WB> Roger-Garp-Harald
OP magazines are the same, also written by a team of writers, not Oda. Also written before ACoC was officially introduced, sky splits could have been anything, its not the same thing.
Wtf
Is Roger not explicitly weaker than Domi rocks
GV Roger
Itâs really good
If it's a Vince Gilligan show it's probably good
oda legit recommends us databooks lol but okay keep coping
Anyways, I was just wondering if you were keeping up since I know you like BCS
I'm waiting for S1 to end so I can binge watch it
It's on apple tv tho...
yeah itâs not even close , apparently some people think 40 yr old roger got way stronger afterwards
Genuinely one of the best pilots
Same
Joyboy = Imu > Prime PK Mustacho Roger (minus cancer) > all
@ashen perch Prove me roger>domi rocks I am waiting
Oda likes money, its a way to sell them to his readers
Do like our beloved idol Monkey D. Luffy and sail the seven seas đ´ââ ď¸đ´ââ ď¸đ´ââ ď¸đ´ââ ď¸đ´ââ ď¸đ´ââ ď¸
alright bud
anything that lets you sleep
They have been incorrect enough times for you to start to ignore them lol
We were thinking of watching it, so if it got a good reception I'll def check it out
EOS Luffy & Teach > everybody present , past , void century
Only reason I donât like databooks is because they say some ridiculous shit like Jozu having unparalleled strength and Vista being just as skilled as Mihawk
I prefer only using manga feats and statements
Sb did you watch BB and BCS
Shanks having observation killing was revealed in databook red and V-jump btw @ashen perch
because roger did went stronger after GV
We? S and b?
Itâs about a woman so maybe Sb wonât like it as much
Wow
dawg
Ok Iâm sorry that was mean
yeah but we donât know how stronger he got in that time before he got sick ( which was when he was 50)
That Film Red databook was actually written by Oda, in his own handwriting
Yes and I was here during the finale of BCS
I cant believe its been like 3 years or something
Prime Roger is exactly one day before he got sick
thats peak roger
When the databook doesnât support the agenda, its non canon
They're no more infallible than us as readers. When they say Vista is as good as Mihawk, they are simply seeing them clash equally with each other and writing down their analysis. This is it. They're not consulting Oda on this.
Ignore all complementary material unless supported by the manga
sure but we still donât know how big of a difference it is between that roger & GV roger .. your prime isnât just one moment , its spans over a period of time so his couldâve started in his prime early 40s and ended when he got sick at 50
Did they tell you that
Greg did
we know PK roger owned the seas and found the one piece
i think thats huge
why dint mihawk just haki blasted mihawk when they clashed like rocks
smh
washed swordsman
He had the sea's keys
he didnât own the seas , he even said that himself .. he wasnât viewed as the strongest on the seas either during that time
Where are you getting your facts from bruh? Oda just had an interview with V-jump(sept 2022) he didn't write Red databook lol, he just supervised them js like he does with Vivre cards and Other databooks, your getting your facts from reddit?đ]
Fighting himself
EW REDDIT
The sentence is confusing
Vista was one of the top three swordsman alive during Marineford. Oda personally wrote me a letter where he detailed this
Kaido said that in wano but its Laido so
Ong mfers getting their facts from reddit lol
wait u right double mihawk
eh too lazy to edit now

@ashen perch You didn't prove roger>dr rocks btw, I am waiting for that
@mkeallison @sabaody_news Dunno if it was ever on a Vivre Card but it always helps to remember, Vivre Cards are made by many people, they've been imperfect before, and they'll probably be imperfect again. Just important to keep in mind. Hell, even my name's on em but I'll admit they're imperfect.
Idk who Greg is, but hes not Mr Naito
!greg
right kaido said due to him finding the one piece , he xo conquered the seas but we know how roger found it .. he had to beg his rival who was viewed as the strongest for Oden .. if any pirate did that today they would get slandered lol
Mihawk only has CoO + CoA
thats vivre card statement
Well Greg is actually not a nobody unfortunately
Naito is an editor, again, whatever they say, they say it to sell these things
Are commands fucking case sensitive
!coauthor lol
Greg Heffley?
what does made by many people even mean
Isn't it obvious it took Garp and Roger both just to stop Rocks?
Oda adopted Greg
Bro
Its a team of writers
Eiichiro Greg is real
Many people write them, it's not just the same guy every time
so you implying PK roger was NOT the strongest even though he is on par with Prime WB
@ashen perch believes prime roger>>>DR rocks massively
Can we bring back #powerscaling
Massively is crazy
but the source is still oda ye? so hes saying it could be a miss translation?
ngl this would be awesome
!powerscaling2
I just said he's stronger
i remember you put him at the bottom of the list lol
even BM was above him
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I mean if loki wins vs harald in a 1v1
No, definitely not. Rocks is literally a monster. He is able to control all those monsters under him.
iâm saying roger was close to the strongest but was 2nd to WB .. but you donât need to be the strongest to find the OP anyway so thatâs fine and it worked out for Roger since WB was nice enough to let him get Oden
That's when everybody > dr rocks
Marin gets it
Hence why
Even Luffy would be stronger
It wont happen
But my message was based on IF it does happen
imu upscale
fair enough since i think PK Roger can only be #2 to Prime WB, but heâs above all
Luffy is secretly stronger than everyone, he just doesnât realize it yet
Whatever
I thinkk
God d usopp is the strongest
Well he is pretty strong
Buggy will be PK
â i have a bad feelingâ you probably knew that was rocks son and didnât want roger son going after him .. shouldâve just knocked ace ass out lol
Btw Whitebeard and Roger really are not that much stronger than Kaido
Fact
but that may be for a different day
ducking gets you nowhere, you simply couldn't put roger above DR rocks and Loki killing harald makes you believe this list is true?, stop coping
Well, if he knew that everything he thinks becomes reality, then OP would break.
Aceâs pride was off the charts
Yeah I stand by what I said
Bro said he will make WB king
crazy how respecting BM gets you above DR rocks
Mihawk sneak
even if WB dont want to be
that's the biggest delusional BM fan ever
in prime or in gv
lol Ace was too dumb to be alive
If Loki 1v1s DR Harald, again, this is a big if and I don't think it happens
God d usopp
In prime, but GV Whitebeard or Roger would wreck GV Kaido
Ace shouldâve asked WB if he even wanted to be PK lol
Atleast not stupid enough to kill his pride
prove me how BM, roger is above DR rocks, outside of mentioning the fact that you "ReSPeCt" her
exactly
Bm is below shiki
damn
I can't prove it yet, I'll wait for Domi Reversi Harald to fight Loki first
everybody in moby dick knows WB doesnt want to be king except Ace
if Ace was still alive i wonder if he wouldâve taken over WB crew or just run back the spade pirates
Even Oda doesn't believe this
change WB pirates and rename them as Spade Pirates
I can't tell if this is roger/wb slander or kaido glaze
Ok that just proves it, shanks powercliffs old gen entirely when loki kills harald
Shiki was not even worth fighting Imu
Domi Reverse Harald was killed by Imu
Prime Sengoku, Prime Shiki > BM
oda isnt a reliable source
he will get a tattoo removal surgery
Oda doesn't believe this either
He might've gone to Wano first.
I think it would be classified as Kaido glaze
he would go on another vengence craze again
and still lose to BBP during the payback war
He just wanted bread
but Kaido is tuff
He wanted that money
Oda believes that BM is equal to Kaido actually
Um
Kaido WAS tuff
20 year plan
lmao damn thatâs sad
Yeah he admittedly is dead
well its ace
you take oda as canon source?
Shiki is an irrelevant movie character who just happens to be canon, the era of gassing him up has come to an end
would Sabo have joined Ace crew or remain with the revs
oda also believes rayleigh and gaban stands shoulder to shoulder to Roger btw
Him and marco are vics
Its time to move past Shiki
Fun Gil Bastar fact #12 : He can see ghosts in the one shot , this is referenced by the fact he has peronaâs fruit
I think he meant that differently ngl
Shiki vs Gear Second Luffy who you got
The era will never end
Just lkke its time to move past BM
Like if roger isnt there rayleigh and gaban can take charge
I will usher in a new golden age of shiki glaze
His 20 year plan already happened in Strong World, it failed
Shiki saved kidd
Not it has not , itâs really pathetic to see you talking like this about odaâs work when you usually have the right mind about it
yeah saying BM is equal to Kaido is equally delusional and
disingenuous
getting upset and baited for yo mama jokes AFTER ur captain died for you is insane
but someone has to step up and be the captain and i feel like it kinda has to be the son of roger
I mean with durability and power yea but i believe kaido has better battle iq than big mom
It wasn't me who made Shiki a non presence in this entire flashback while focusing on BM, Kaido, Roger, Garp and Rocks
Wb
As well
man every time I see any power scaling regarding akainu I just ask myself what story are people reading
classic hypocrisy character flaw
No dude , barbell was a non presence , shiki was a character
Because he didnât have aura farming I donât care
luffy right now? Luffy easily, Gear 2 w acoc should handle shiki might need a G3 attack to put him down for good though
like what did you read that made you come to the conclusion that akainu is top 1
its about agenda, not stories
Oda doesn't care about Shiki, its over Earl
Yeah BM is not near the level of kaidoo IF HE USED HIS FIRE DRGAON FORM AGAINST HER SHE WOULD BE A BURNED PIG
???
Once again, no shame
Arsal when he sees Shiki
guys i think shiki is dead
loki killed him during his time as a pirate

he would ERASE BM from existenceđ
â Oda said akainu would find the one piece in a . year â is what i see them mostly say
loki hunted the former members
I think you just donât , and itâs ok to accept that bro
Donât project
Im glad Shiki didnât join the attack combo on Imu, wouldâve stole the show from Big Mom
Yeah frđ
You should be glad too
Nah you right
what tf did shiki achieve in GV btw
Shikiâs strongest contribution towards this flashback was starring in a doomed yaoi with Kyo. Which is more than I couldâve ever asked for btw
Polo Gram had as many lines as him after one proper appearance
shiki would have lifted imu in the air
send him and saturn to skypeia
whoâs the next former rocks pirate we see in present day .. i feel like at least one of them is still on hachinosu with rocks son
Shiki was the first man to escape from impel down
Stop the foolishness
maybe wang zhi is a prisoner and not dead
Its not like GV BM doesnât have a horrid track record already and then on TOP of that, shes getting benched by Shiki? 
oh yeah the funds for his fleet
Who gives a shit , youâre talking about non presence and youâre not even right , barbell and sunbell are what you call non presence
Reread anything tbh
shiki did as much as bogard in the flashback lmao
We seen shiki fight
Another idiot
Now ur just lying
Bogard doing cardio
i have a feeling teach figured out wang zhi was the amongus
and just straight up killed him
Neg diffing Ganzui is doing as much as Bogard
What if the Xebec was the real equals man this whole time
Get serious
Shiki was a presence, I'll concede, he certainly was
for what
Shiki hating Rocks is too based for me to ignore
does teach cares about don marlon?
dint wang zhi betray rocks pirates
He doesnt even hate him he just doesnt care about him
The vessel has arrived
People talk about wanting real pirates until they see one
the only thing he's fighting is irrelevance and he's losing badly
wang zhi is always bum
Then they switch up
Him beating Ganzui was so irrelevant that Oda didn't even bother with it lol
someone needs to remove the figarlands from the strongest families list and put Gol D Roger , Gol D Shanks & Gol D Ace
He only care about him as long as he is useful to him ig
whats your point lol
Facts
Yea but they donât know it yet
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Wang Zhi is the biggest winner of the entire flashback
BB has laffite that can just hypno him to admitting it
Why is he mewing
my point is teach wont care about wang zhi at all
Just like your post history 
And I hate that
Why
therefore killed him
I like to think itâs more so because Ganzui is so unremarkable that it wasnât even worth showing Shiki one tap him
same result
He got an island he ruled over peacefully for almost 40 years, he's the truest ruler Hachinosu has ever had
The Rayleigh in the corner
Heâs basically one of the reasons his father is dead
Because teach believes piracy is about maintaining personal interest
Anyways, no matter how much you want to cope about Shiki, the reality has become clear. BM is and always was better
yeah he probably would kill him , especially if he had a strong DF lol
Grass is green and the sky is blue
Fitting for the unremarkable Shiki
Shiki was really funny this flashback
he wont feel ill even if wang zhi killed don marlon
Agenda people really are the worst
Why you obsessed with big mom
Nope
he gets nothing out of letting wang zhi survive after he took his island
Shiki was the 3rd biggest pirate in an era with Whitebeard and Roger, Big Mom didnt do that
even Kaido didnt do that
What are you yapping about
you telling me IF teach knew that guy betrayed rocks
he wont have even a bit of satisfaction killing him
Its not about don marlon
BM fans gotta understand she only lasted as long as she did because Shiki self-destructed his own career
Its about him betraying his father
I'm fighting the Shiki agenda
,??
Shakky?
Fun to think They still have no clue to this day rocks went Domi, they still think he betrayed them
I'm surprised this is disputed
idk man, i see teach isnt the type of giving shit on this. dude betrayed wb pirates
Not out of an agenda of myself, but against that agenda
Shikiâs cool tho 
Even Garp figured out it was a curse of some kind lol
Anti agenda of a perceived agenda is even worse
back then i wanted wang zhi and moria to be cell buddies in the dungeon
they just having a casual convo
it would be funny if Garp & Wang Zhi are cellmates on Hachinosu though lol
Kaido and BM aren't very bright
True
Is there any possibility that KUINA might be alivee
Down D Stairs
Just like BM self-destructed her own career, only that it was against two fodders (sorry Kidd), meanwhile Shikiâs was against Prime Garp and Prime Sengoku who individually put belt to ass on BM.
BM is lowkey carried by her like 167 kids in the intelligence department
Yeah It took them 40 years to realize they should chase op together
we already have kuina at home
Like how can GODA let her die cuz of just stupid reason ?
ace also died bcs of stupid reason
what u mean? look at ace 
You mean
Tashigi ?.
The man who named a ship after his father wouldnt care about the man who betrayed his father?
Garp could hear Xebec's voice, so that's why he figured it had to have been a curse or some kind. If he hadn't heard that, he probably would've been just as confused. But this isn't me excusing Big Mom and Kaido really but rather me just pointing out I can see Garp being confused too if he couldn't hear him. That's how OP characters are sometimes. I mean it should be intuitively obvious that something happened to Xebec and he's not acting like his normal self lol
Well that was better than ace's
We do have to admit that Kaido and Big Mom are dead tho
the man who betrays his captain to achieve his goal wont care enough about a pirate betrays who betrays another captain
It's OVER
Garp showed the better Battle IQ than Roger in that fight
his father
I think you seem to skip over that part
doesnt matter
Yeah they are and they must be like hkw the hell they can climb that lava pit
teach isnt like that bro
garp better have better iq if hes just using his fist
you go to rehab
Tbh haki users are the most badasses than DF users
Oda made Shiki canon for him to drop a bomb on top of Kaido and Whitebeard, simp for shakky the most out of the entire crew, run away with 1 box of treasure and declare the end of the Rocks pirates
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look at all these fools arguing over shiki/bm/kaido when shanks is HIM
just get both you get the MC
Heâs a VICTIM
cope
Teach said he wanted Hachinosu for a base of operation, and it just happened Wang Zhi was the ruler. If revenge is his thing, its a bonus not a main goal
Well this is what this page is for
so you go to rehab
oh you mean this?
See this is funny because Roger never chose to avoid a fight against Shiki. Roger was sick and near his last years and he still wanted to fight a war with Shiki and everyone who worked for him, his entire fleet.
Roger didn't feel this way about BM though đââď¸
I swear if this is how he goes out...
I wanna watch shanks fighting against BB so much
Teachâs main goal was to take over Hachinosu, not revenge on Wang Zhi
if shanks goes down vs BBP he better altleast heavy injur teach or kill some of the crew
Something not too dissimilar lol
I mean Roger also was objectively gonna lose that fight if not for the storm so
They still think Shanks is dying in big 2025
Why specifically hachinosu
Why not ANY OTHER island
It's not like it was a great idea
go read the manga
He is
What r u talkin bout he will murder his crew
?
Child of Destiny shanks
destined to be a hype tool for Teach
imma be laughin in a couple of years when Oda destroys their fetishđđ

eris wanted hachinosu and she's still alive bb
Teach never said he wanted it for a base of operations , Rocks said that .. we donât know why teach wanted it
We don't know that, Roger was confident about his chances too.
Roger had no way out of that one too iirc. Like he was just surrounded, he was forced to fight there. There's a chance he would've retreated â unless Shiki baited him by talking shit about one of his crewmates
Blackbeard would get slandered for like years
Roger isn't going to backdown no matter what
Well let me rephrase that
The gears still arent turning in there?
He's the type of guy who's going to go down swinging, especially if he realizes there's no way out
say what you want, you dont have proof of anything besides ur headcanon
The storm may have just saved Shiki's ass for all we know, there was not a hint of concern on Roger's ship outside of Buggy
I'm sure Roger thought that somehow, someway, he could've won that. And even if he couldn't, he's not going to be the type of person who's prostrating himself or asking Shiki to back off. He's just gonna fight lol
Rocks owning hachinosu is head canon?
Interesting
according to the firm red director shanks is important asf for the plot
So he ain't defo dying, but he's ending up like this
Ill keep that in mind
What did the narrator say about the fight?
It says they were "saved" by the storm
people just enjoying shiki as a character
Other guy: oh yeah? Well Shiki sucks and is irrelevant and did you know he was a in a movie? HA!!
Shanks is dead bro
no. the fact you mention revenge/father thing are the headcanon
There goes that almost
Almost yeah
So rocks being blackbeards father is headcanon
Will also keep that in mind
So... I guess Roger had a chance. But the odds were stacked against him
Ohhhh my god bruh
Its like Onigashima was almost doomed for the SHs, but they pulled it off
done talking, believe whatever you want
Sabre of xebec means bb just likes his dads name and nothing else!
Crazy how delusional roger fans were before the last chapter dropped 

just read better and have comprehension
Shiki is all over ig
its good for u
Where iss zorrooooo
Lemme guess Blackbeard isnt a real character either
Ig he lost again
He didnât need all that glaze lol
Plz let me know more headcanons
rogers haki bloom is unlocking VOAT which is just giga Obs
But I don't think it really matters because Roger would've acted like he could've won that fight regardless whether or not he actually couldn't lol
He would have won really, Shiki got lucky
well I'm just glad we'll never have to see shikis ugly mug ever again
im telling you man loki killed shiki
Shiki saved kidd
But its besides the point, which was that he didn't avoid that fight but he did avoid a fight with BM
Well the narrator speaks as though he would've likely lost
Does Doffy also know everything about void century ?
thats why gaban said no one was able to stop him
cuz he killed the legends
people just having tea over their favorite shiki moments
Spice for some reason: Shiki was in a movie tho
Shiki was in a movie lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooo
he's gonna end up like that when he meets BB don't worry
Well he also had to fight his way out of the first one. He may've hit the dash if there was a way to get out of there. But he didn't. He was surrounded
âNo blackbeard didnt fight the man who owned his fathers island after betraying himâ
But he did avoid fighting Big Mom
Well, if you can control gravity, then you can absolutely shake the world.
Its cuz BM could NEVER have Roger like this:
control gravity? loki?
Facts^
He is just selfish lol
Shiki
I'm not even bringing up movie shiki because it's a low hanging fruit, his portrayal in the manga already does enough
Fuji
so whos the lurking legend again
Yeah my bad
Dont tell Arsal that Shiki is stronger than Big Mom he gets rabid
He wasn't ambushed or anything though, he chose to walk into that and declared that he was going to crush them all even when he could escape. I think Buggy said that escape was possible iirc.
Nah youâre reaching for insults when you compare him to bogard when he obviously had more screen time even a baby can tell
I even forgot what was shiki's power was
He didn't avoid fighting Big Mom because he was afraid of her
Shiki is at best admiral level because:
Its ragebait
Well he might actually be, which makes it funnier
talking facts, not headcanon
Like what, certain of victory?
Ok but why choose pirate island(his fathers island) out of all things
Plz inform me
talk shit more bro
I just dont see Shiki being weaker than a potential Aramaki victim idk
About rocks owning hachinosu?
and that plan was before caribou revealed the locations
Or him being bbâs father
blah blah blah yada yada
Whats the argument rn
You may be right. I don't care enough to go back and look for the panels. I don't even care about Shiki being on the same level or surpassing Big Mom â I don't believe it either. I'm not on that agenda lol. Just analyzing the situation
Wait did caribou alrdy disclosed the all locations to BB?
Shanks's fans true two biggest nightmares:
Thats 3 ppl
BB is LACK LEARD
Are they encircled?
Maybe 5
Imu and blackbeard, that is correct
Maybe 4 if eris grafted theory comes true
he was about to talk to him
but got offscreened
Roger surrounded where the only option was: fight
I got jumpscared by Imu being in the left lmao
You dont believe this
Yeah in the manga there is no info of that
The Aramaki victim is Big Mom btw
Your hearts not in it
wait, was mihawk there?
yes but caribou should have told teach by now where they are
FMI and WANO
Alright guys
Kizaru beats her too actually, idk if she could even hit him
so i can see BBP splitting up again
I meann according to the screen time he got in the anime and manga he isnt cool at all
Maybe he might become a legendary character in the future just like we thought about rocks
I think it's BB fans who should fear Shanks ngl because you know damn well he's getting glazed to never before seen levels when they fight and only going down to some treachery
It's a predictable fight
Why fear shanks
I hate this new discord function (on PC)
why did they think it was a good idea to suggest people when do not type "@"?
We understand this
Its Oda's beautiful boy
We know itâll happen
will shamrock even face shanks
or even garling
He's probably gonna solo the entire crew
The result ultimately is: Shanks loses
they ain't ready man
This doesn't make sense though, BM commands a fleet that is as big as Shiki's too, filled with high tier children of her own. She'll have Roger surrounded just as badly if Roger wasnt sneaking in.
Shanks himself said they dont play by any rules, so miss me with the cope
Shanks getting jumped by the entirety of the 10 titanic captains and still barely losing
he has. he went to WB and cried, then he went to MJ and snitched.
That just makes shanks crew look like ass
ok cmon you need to at least add shanks crew in the mix
Because why arent they helping
everything except face BB
It's 10000% gonna happen
That makes the red hair pirates bums then đ
wait this is horrible literally every word will be in usernames
So theyâre gonna watch their captain get jumped
we know crew is ass
Shiryu is going to hold a blade to Monster's neck and Shanks will only then concede and lose
Or they get oneshotted first
yeah, it's awful
trying to figure out where I turn it off
Her âfleetâ wouldnât even get past the CoC strength check, Shikiâs did
DUCK D TEACH--shanks' nickname
shanks is solo running yonko
Mobile users finally take a W after 10,000 years
100% accurate
not before slicing Shiryu's worthless head off without anyone noticing, as you just hear a SHIIING
Not even close
Lucky roux lvl bum
When vasco shot burns shanks to a crisp what will you do
Plz let me know now
wake up
Luffy is gonna be Shanks level by the end of this arc so you better hope he isnt that strong or else Luffy is running through Blackbeard
I found it tho
?? We don't know this lol, nobody used CoC there on panel. And Flampe is like the only one of her children who has been knocked out by CoC
only Kuzan and Blackbeard stand a remote chance against Shanks
Classy
Shanks would immobilize the crew without much issue
Iâll wake u up during the final saga
thereâs no way u are conscious rn
Shiryu is parrying that one armed hasbeen
Im wide awake
Shanks is dead
Nice. Yeah, not sure why they thought that function would be desirable. Pisscord moment
I seen it
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can't wait to see Yasopp catch one between his dead beat eyes
you gonna hear a gun shot in distance and he just drops.
Hey guys dont forget that shanks lost his most of the power ig
Yasoop will blink and die
ive lost hype for snipers after the augur vs law
shanks is simply HIM he doesn't even need his bum ass crew
Yasopp will shoot before Augur even noticed he was there tbh
I see the first picture symbolising that you won't listen, and the second is the rabbit from alice in wonderland.
I will interpret this as you being comfortable in your own fantasy bubble
oda had to glaze Law. he is sick
and then Beckman will decapitate Burgess with a stroke of his gunblade
Wasnt Roger CoC + Roger was caught in a DIRE situation, no shot he didnât CoC flex including Gaban and Rayleigh
Von still working on his fruit
and then Monster will tear an eye out from Blackbeard
This isnt even CLOSE to the truth
Thats cuz he didnt knew how to use haki at that time
Kuzan will humble pumpfake beckman
after that we'll see Lucky Roux belly flop onto Lafitte crushing every bone in his body
a freaking sniper that wont keep relocating for a perfect shot
"Please pull up at hachinosu and show us your TF hakiman and Joyboy level haki shanks sama~"
Ben vs Kuzan is a high-extreme diff fight
He still gave that man 2 to the chest and 1 to the dome
Dire but not unwinnable, the crew was confident for a reason.
If ace wasnt a logia he dead
Hell no
Kuzan will save Blackbeard in the end
Kuzan mid diff
RHP isn't killing a single BB main crew member.
Immediately
was so dumb
aiming a rifle at melee range
they totally are
You lost ur mind
@glass plume ur a đ
keep spelling it out for these ppl
No i just know the truth
No
But if ace knew about haki he might be able to unlock CONQ haki as well
bbp can't even beat bepo lmaooo
Monster will tear out the throat from Vasco Shot and then spit on his corpse while eating a banna
Is that why bepo ran?
they are destined to face Luffy and high chance of being in final war xd
there is no coming back from weiner island
hmm sure
Also at this point bepo> shanks
and that's not even mentioning Gab who will atomize all the fodders that Blackbeard brought with him
Those throbs are real btw
His face still throbbing years later
1% chance of victory
Heâs a bum and i wont miss him
God d usopp >>>> entire OP characters
Blackbeard fans are so desperate 
and Building Snake @glass plume
only winner on that island was Chopper. without his drugs, Law and Bepo would be toast
Desperate for what
Confident does not mean they were gonna win, Luffy was confident in beating Kaido after chapter 1010, and he lost again
a sea king did more damage than that
BB scarred shanks
Shanks never touched his man afterwards
yeah, he'll build a house on top of Blackbeard and then call the demolition derby to crash it down
That alone is enough
bb not even sea king level
Im just trolling atp
Shanks not even chapter one luffy lvl
shhh. never admit this
Shanks is the reason why he can't sleep, he has nightmares of the haki-demon
Gecko moria went to hachinosu BY HIMSELF before shanks
what did whang zhi do
die
I hope Shanks vs Blackbeard will be as much of a shit throw fight as this chat right now
gave birth to caribou
I think you got the roles reversed
Shanks snitched on blackbeard TWICE
right, and you still call Shanks a rat?
@final trench Apparently this is what Shanks fans believe what shanks's real powers look like when the topic of WSS title is brought
double standards smh
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Luffy's a bit of an idiot, I don't think the entire crew's confidence was unfounded though in comparison
my money is on it not even happening 
BECAUSE HE NOT READY TO FACE THE GOAT
he was fighting kaido
W Tae5
Arsal let's be real the storm was a literal plot armor
keeping the Shanks wankers in check
Nah im serious when i say bb killing shanks
Im trolling now because i seen all i needed to see
go get em rat fans
Because he was 2 years old
If they were gonna win without the storm the storm would not have happened
I agree, Shiki got lucky
smh aura loss
Shanks was a grown man and still didnt fight bb again
is that really your goat?
Shiki cope has to end
Yes thats my goat
luffy is not an idiot
i hope BB packs shanks
Shiki almost killed Roger
He learned from his experience and became a yonko
Bum D Roger getting saved by a storm from fodder Shiki đ. Old gens are full of frauds
Bm could never
Shanks was a grown man and had 2 opportunities maybe more to fight bb and he never took him
what experience? running from Akainu 
baby loki was kaido level so I'm calling skill issue
cuz this is shamrock
he did. he used crying haki to alert Kuma so Xebec didn't have to suffer in hell for killing his wife and kids. re read chapter
And this is a guy whos âfuck allâ
Pick an agenda lil man
Guys who wins BM or Kizaru (not mentally nerfed)
Bb works in silence, if he killed akainu thats making the spot hot
50/50
BM mid diff
BM lol
yeah, that's true
Blackbeards corpse would make a nice campfire tho
Waido agenda reigns supreme
kaido was more powerful mentally nerfed if you think about it
Kizaru kinda slams tbh
Thats fine and dandy but blackbeard beats loki kaido and shanks
@final trench This is how close elbaf is from hachinosu btw and shanks apparently can't find Blackbeard đ
Big Mom is always mentally nerfed
Bajrang gun one shots any old gen
Embarrassing
Well that's because she's a moron
Heâs scared of blackbeard
Where is this map from?
Oda approved it
#FearThaDavy
but that's not Kizaru's fault
Akainu? No he ain't
Itâs crazy that Elbaf, egghead, and Wano are all like a dayâs sail from each other
Kaido could throw someone to Egghead if he really tried
This is fanmade to be clear
Shlawg was chilling in the hottub with gaban after catching a claw to the face
Crazy work
always remember, Helmeppo was more brave than Shanks. he went to BBs home to face like a man.
Shanks is
Dude can't find Bb when Ace easily finds him đ. Shanks acting like he does something while secretly hoping he'll never see Bb again.
Why wasnt shanks at the payback war?
don't move the goal post, we're talking about your goat here
why didn't Blackbeard fight Shanks when Shanks said he was ready to fight anyone there?
I said shanks is afraid of blackbeard, thats not moving the goalpost
@glass plume
actualy effort was made by deriving info from SBS and vivre cards btw anyways back to the topic Hachinosu is a well known pirate island btw if you don't know
Don't even get me started on Akainu
Shanks went to a war that was already ending
Shanks will duck Bb as long as possible and pray that Luffy will take him down for him. Average rat behaviour
If shanks was there from the beginning heâs dead
can u send the link to the map?
Lets stop the foolishness
yeah and invited Blackbeard to scrap, and yet Blackbeard ran with his tail between his leg after declaring himself as unstoppable
gotta get back to work. hopefully there is another juicy agenda later 
i'm sorry but Blackbeard isn't the high and mighty you think he is
A blackbeard that fought whitebeard garp and sengoku***
Its so funny Blackbeard haters say he avoids fights but Shanks also avoids Blackbeard
High and mightier than Rad D Shanks.
Theyâre pirates they dont play by the rules
Everybody avoids Everybody
Shanks is looking for him, but he knows where his home is
Why didnt he swing on blackbeard??
Does he?
Blackbeard barely fought Whitebeard, he pulled some guns on him til he died and acted like it was his doing.
Sengoku knocked him into the dirt so he couldn't breath
Aurafarming
and yet you say that Shanks should 
@wet condor
who tf is making the maps
Some random
SHANKS SAID THAT QUOTE
search it up on google you can find it đ
Shanks ask Bb if he wants to fight because he don't want to lose his aura, but he sure was happy to postpone their fight indefinitely when Bb said so đ
search what
sybau
Why are you talking
Duh OP world map
i found thanks
The thing is Shanks was waiting at Elbaph for Blackbeard to come around though. He wanted to fight him there. Shanks knows where Hachinosu is. Why didn't he storm that? Who knows. He was keeping tabs on their whereabouts apparently. Maybe he was going to attack when he felt the time was right. Blackbeard doesn't care about confronting Shanks at all though
it's so funny how defensive the Blackbeard fans are
it's so funny how defensive the Shanks fans are
their "goat" truly can do nothing wrong
its funny
their "goat" truly can do nothing wrong
Laugh now cry later
He wanted to sneak him the way he snuck Kidd and Loki 
Blackbeard kill yâall favorite character
heres the best map you going to get
we dont know how far these islands are from each other
Like cmon now
Yc cook once again
we will see what happens in due time
Has good points
Lol youre defensive!!
Each square on the map is 6 to 7 nautical miles
blackbeard would kill my favourite character tbh
Another blackbeard victim
Mr.5 minutes
its kuzan
We will
@final trench he was showering after 10 years btw
he didn't bring a single good argument other than "Shanks is afraid of Blackbeard.. Wooohoo!"
These people need to be taught
Shanks and that dirty durag wearing nigga lucky roux are dead
@ashen perch @stone tulip @hot cairn @wet condor @digital spear @hazy turret
Viz translation makes Garpâs line another Garp allegation clear. Garp protects the rank and file so they can save civilians
Heâs their dive tank, keeping the enemy heavy hitters occupied so they can be safe to help people
Blackbeard is likely killing Shanks though lol. The introduction of Shamrock and Garling is the only thing that has kept me from saying "most definitely." For years I said that Shanks would've died to Blackbeard
Look at that claw
blackbeard is protected by 50 layers of narrative, do anything but dont bet against him
Blackbeard should be a artist fr
lmfao, you do know that your goat Blackbeard also wears a durag
Oda projecting his homeless rizz through his self insert:
shanks is not odas self insert, its sanji
Yea but he upgraded to a hat
Theres a difference
the durag is still under the hat 
This map is One Piece Ruburu (official material) which as far as Iâm aware, is the closest map currently to accurate on where these locations be and Hachinosu is being implied around here
clearly you don't know much about Blackbeard
That would be tuff
You can only win if you bet Luffy beating BB
betting on luffy is the most boring SHIT
Yeah. Garp's made it clear why he's staying with the Marines. But most people don't care because they feel like him working for the WG invalidates him protecting civilians and the little guys in the Marines, even if he doesn't personally participate in genocides or doesn't fight back against revolutionaries
damn toei did oda dirty đ
"I am gonna be the one to score points with Bonney chan"
see the yellow beneath the hat, that's a durag
#promote-yourself i think
Its a rat link
Why are there so many scammers
easy money
I swear it's getting worse
Toei gotta stop the sanji downplay its sick
It is getting worse
Did you click it bro
dawg this new type of scam relating to images and shit


they are rising
No but thats the youtbe URL shortener
they are mutating
equally as boring betting on Blackbeard atp
these roger pirates really love hot springs
The other day there was one that hid the text
Put that on God rn
That one was crazy
Thats a new one
An arg to get scammed
He stopped rocking the black duey
well yeah
bb is a pretty safe character
will only be defeated by luffy
Yeah
Your supposed to hate this guy btw, that's what Oda wants.
bet on dragon if you like gambling amirite
"When the screen goes black, always bet on BB!"
Dragon, mihawk and BB, ppl need to stop downplaying my goats
Bet on Blackbeard when he's fighting someone not named Luffy
Notice how he said Buggy first
That's the yami yami's awakening, it turns the entire panel dark
What if BB gets slimed early like Ace in marineford
Xebec's real successor
I think Odaâs been laying the groundwork for the Navy to join in helping the Revos when the time comes
Buggy is a Nefertari
plz don't đđ
For fun he would be in Buggys crew
For strength he would be in BBs crew
probably just the SWORD part tho, no?
i don't think that Akainu would go with Dragon
Some Marine guys will prob follow Garp
Also i already said cross guild is the new gen rocks pirates, that shit dont move me đĽą
Buggy is from manmayers family, the family of Gunko
Isnât it funny how with Garp, itâs complacency but when itâs shanks, dragon and Roger theyre biding time
fasho

Like his personal fleet â I don't know if Garp commands a fleet and a flagship
Irl U.S. VAs do
Wanna hear my new crack theory I came up with yesterday?
Buggy kills Blackbeard
Yeah
Definitely on crack when you made it
Roger thinking his son gonna be his successor
he doesnt know about that inherited will
I don't know its name
Will be way more than just SWORD and Garpâs role in that was critical
I don't know how many ships he has under his command
please no ong I am sick of Buggy fans coming after my ass
please no oda
Ill wait
roger told him he aint ready
go eat some rubber fruit lil pup
Like the guys directly under Garp I'm positive all those guys will just follow him. If not that, then most fo them
i guess the Marine civil war is on it's way
It's kinda crazy how many times Buggy says he wants the world
Mmhmm
i want alliances to be the trump card of revs
shimotsuki clan, SWORD, fujitora
Until buggy awakens his fruit im not moved
Well Dragon is also slandered but not to the point Garp is. I think with Garp people straight up dont know
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Imu - Uranus
Luffy- Poseidon
Teach -Pluton
Imu manipulates the Navyâs sense of responsibility to make them dangerous to the world, ensuring that the people are always divided against each other instead of united against him
Dragon was slandered to hell and back, just like Garp before God Valley
all of your Buggy fans theorizing buggy relating to xebec was brutally debunked this arc đ
Plz stop the cope buggy fans
What do all 3 have in common that garp doesnt
sorry buddy SWORD is busy with this
iâll do you one better .. Pluton was Davy Jones ship
Itâs going to take pirates, Revos, civilians and Navy working together to stop the CDs
so it rightfully belongs to Teach
literally the world
I hope he gets it anyways
He doesn't need to be related to him when he's carrying his will 
i hope Crocodile gets Pluton
lmaoooo
Yup. Garp has been doing his part by making sure the moral fiber of the Navy doesnât get 100% corrupted and by fighting to save people for over 50 years
if Oda was cool, he'd do it
When the time comes to rebel, many in the Navy will join that Rebellion and itâll be because of Garpâs efforts the past 50 years
But I'd find something funny about how he actually accomplished one of his life goals
Because I just wouldn't expect it
Depending on who joins Cross Guild I would REALLY not trust them with an ancient weapon
Cmon now
He's like the last person I'd expect to get it specifically because he wants it, worked for a decade to get it, and failed
You know blackbeard snatching that and they doin shit about it
Could you imagine if Doflamingo joins Cross Guild and they have Pluton
so glad that this flashback force-fed the information about Garp to the doubters, lmfao
I feel like in that case Buggy would just do with Pluton what Joy Boy intended to keep it for
Demon Doffy

@final trench @tough igloo @digital spear notice the same number of skulls floating around tot musica as BB's jolly roger which also has same three skulls 
I need Cross Guild to meet S-Hawk and two other certain Seraphims (they're unnamed so I refer to them as S-Flamingo and S-Croc)
:p
Pluton aka the REAL Flying Dutchman & Yami Yami was Davy Jones Locker
Tellem again
Theyâll just free the real doffy
Wait cook
Iâd expect Seraphim deployment if they actually are serious about taking them down
Unfortunately its all too real that people are complacent with an immoral status quo
Aye now
Only one person stands supreme above the rest.
Lil
ing going on there
Whoaaaas
Donât gimme wrong ifw dragon but lets rephrase dat real quick
Plz n thank you