also-manga

[wet heron]

old mihawk finally has to get toilet rolls ig

that crazy haki ain gonna work for his higher purposes no more

[trim lily]

i imagine mihawk would rather just retire now

he’s kind of lost all his drive

[thick mango]

but hes not that old

[trim lily]

maybe try out mentoring people

[wet heron]

true

[sick dust]

Same people who said Garling was better than rocks or was equal

[wet heron]

I remember idiots hyping HKs to being above yonkos etc

this was when Dragon mentioned their bum asses and we were heading towards Elbaph

[steel stirrup]

He still has time left before the charges are officially filed

[sick dust]

All that just for them to be glorified punching bags to characters with COC

[somber flare]

Shanks fans were doing him a disservice in the first place by grouping him with Garling

[steel stirrup]

But please the believe i got the paperwork drawn up for the fraud charges. If Garling doesn't do something soon, I will take him to court

[sick dust]

Why isn’t he in court now?

You have the edvience

[wet heron]

all that's left is for Usopp to 1 shot him now

[somber flare]

What did people think Garling was going to do?

[wet heron]

[steel stirrup]

I'm trying to give him time to show us why he earned that "Champion of God Valley" title

At the moments its seems to be the Celestial Dragon equivalent of a Participation Trophy

[sick dust]

If I recall it was stated it was a self proclaimed title

Not a earned one

[steel stirrup]

Self proclaimed?😭😭

If that evidence can be substantiated we may just go ahead and proceed with the trial

[sick dust]

Distinguished himself

Godvalley being the place he got the reputation despite the fact he spent most of his time killing fleeing slaves

[trim lily]

i mean we know why he earned it, he hunted the most slaves/people

[wet heron]

champion of GV feats :
1000000 minutes of chasing after shakky
0 top tiers injured
152 children and women slaves killed
get totally destroyed by 1 hand tied behind the back wocks

[somber flare]

What else did we expect from a Celestial Dragon

[sick dust]

Keep in mind a younger Kaido was able to tank a kick from rocks

[wet heron]

Oda may yet pan away from rocks being beat up by garp roger after a panel or two

and show HKs pursuing the rest of the pirates

there might be something for Garling in there with a win over somebody

[rare ivy]

Garling will be Vegeta wrapping up Ginyu force on Namek

[sick dust]

https://tenor.com/view/botan-laugh-botan-risa-botan-laugh-animation-botan-shishiro-botan-gif-24926746

[wet heron]

could be, but dragon is a vegeta based off the baldness etc

[wet heron]

trust

[rare ivy]

By the visual looks, yes

[wet heron]

who else got hair like that

it's just foxy and Dragon atp

[runic dock]

Kenjiro tsuda is gonna voice shamrock? Sheeeesh

Ultra glaze has already begun

[runic dock]

Spent most of his time losing to rocks despite having immortality

[pulsar path]

How did his nose go form shanks to usopp

Was it the liquor?

🥃

[pulsar path]

He voice Yonji too??

[hazy echo]

Ya

[lime terrace]

Who voiced joyboy?

[hazy echo]

Not there yet

[stuck pagoda]

Samuel L Jackson

[lime terrace]

too old

[lime terrace]

joyboy showed up earlier than shamrock

[rare ivy]

AI. Ancient kingdom had very advanced tech

[blazing depot]

He has a track record of voicing evil identical brothers then

[hazy echo]

Yeah but Shamrock specifically got a VA reveal to promote the volume release

The anime hasn’t gotten to where we hear JoyBoy speaking the first time that’s like in a couple of weeks

[lime terrace]

ohhh okay

egghead ends this year right?

[blazing depot]

Yea

Around December or January

[hazy echo]

Toei said it’ll end in Dec

And then the break starting in Jan

[warm sierra]

Last ep was almost 1 and a half chapters if that pace keeps up they should make it until the end of the year?

[sly belfry]

If they speed through the vp yapathon itll finish in dec

[royal orchid]

@formal wagon they told me you know when Egghead ends

[lime terrace]

who is that

[tulip turtle]

So the mother flame is pink damn..

[rose rune]

a motherly color

[tulip turtle]

Ig, the pink fire exists in the real world too, but it is made by adding certain chemicals.

So does that mean the mother flame came from normal fire?

[tulip turtle]

Big mom flame!

[cold steppe]

Koby upscale

[tulip turtle]

What if Koby is the son of Big mom?

[gloomy tree]

I mean since we have the break beginning in January they seemingly plan to finish Egghead in December

[prisma yacht]

Hey, no hints yet ?

[sleek plume]

Nah

Redon’s prolly just busy again

Like last week

[pseudo gulch]

Good

[dense haven]

https://tenor.com/QGYS81GPrW.gif

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/munching-gif-12510973472250467250

[pseudo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cam-cat-camera-cat-wide-cat-wide-gif-16729570673879006163

[rustic coral]

Goddamn that OP chapter

[sly belfry]

Was it good

[frail cradle]

redon is getting bullied

[dense haven]

good

[ashen perch]

the next chapter will be titled Rocks v Garp and Roger, not a spoiler, it was revealed to me in a dream

[vale heath]

“Revealed to me in a dream” vs “ChatGPT told me”

[ashen perch]

I'd never use that garbage smh

[gloomy tree]

I mean you could check for yourself

[proud pivot]

the next chapter will be titled AKAINU ONE SHOTS ROCKS AND SAVES EVERYONE ON GODVALLEY, not a spoiler, it was revealed to me in a dream

[ashen perch]

its a common naming pattern for fight chapters, its how Oda has titled them for the past 1100 chapters

[vale heath]

I think the chapter title will be printed in either hiragana or katakana

[ashen perch]

apparently theres been 59 such chapters so far, just checked

[vale heath]

Just like he has for the past 1100 chapters

[ashen perch]

this was the last one

[vale heath]

Is this canon

[ashen perch]

the cover request? not really

[vale heath]

Koby and helmeppo get mugged by tarsiers.

[ashen perch]

cant wait for Sanji to unlock Mother Flame Jambe

[glass plume]

wait it's been revealed in the anime?

[urban lodge]

That will be Sabo's awakening actually

[ashen perch]

oh true

Sanji will get ACoC Jambe I guess

[urban lodge]

Sanji gets black flames

[glass plume]

has the mother flame officialy been revealed?

[ashen perch]

yea

[upbeat yarrow]

mother flame emperor sabo

[vale heath]

It purple

/pink

same color fight me

[glass plume]

i thought it'd be blue but purple is nice too

[tulip turtle]

Pink fire exists in the real world too, it is created by mixing certain chemicals in fire.

[ashen perch]

Judge as one of the Gorosei would have been incredible, Oda missed

well WCI was still incredible I guess

[vale heath]

Fire of any color can be made that’s basic chemistry stuff

[dense rapids]

Yea

[vale heath]

Brimstone Fire is green

[proud pivot]

https://x.com/Porterpeak004/status/1985045847097147701 it is actually connected to zoro

Porter Peak IV 👑 🇵🇸 (@Porterpeak004)

#ONEPIECE1164

ZOROOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO WONDER KAIDOU DODGED THIS PURPLE FLAME, IF HE DIDN'T, HE WOULD BE DEAD BY NOW!!!!!

YOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

PURPLE FLAME ZORO >>> DRAGON KAIDOU 🥶

X · Nov 2, 2025, 6:06 PM

[tulip turtle]

It could mean that mother flame might have been created by normal fire

[vale heath]

Fire is indeed involved in basically any science you can do

It’s literally step 1 in the tech tree

[dense rapids]

I think Oda is hinting with Hiruluk how it’s created

[warm sierra]

I think we shouldnt forget that this can always just be Toei going rogue

[vale heath]

Reminder toei going rogue can sometimes be an improvement

[ashen perch]

yeah I wouldnt trust them on any color scheme because they dont really consult Oda on anything

apparently that is going to change in Elbaf

but for now, yknow

[digital spear]

Orange Kuma >

[warm sierra]

Yeah, we cant have Oda making the fire orange…. Wait

[ashen perch]

I feel like maybe Oda wanted him to look like the sun

[vale heath]

Genuinely think Thriller Bark would be even worse if they kept Kuma Orange

[ashen perch]

so I wouldnt necessarily call it an improvement when a part of his design was potentially lost

[tulip turtle]

I don't think toei will head cannon mother flame colour without asking Oda.

[tropic nova]

What is better

1️⃣ Orange Kuma

2️⃣ uhhhh imm stupidtt uhhh bluee kuma is bttrer uhh... im so stupidd

yogurtcan · Nov 3, 2025, 11:50 AM

[upbeat yarrow]

toei should have gone the extra mile and made kuma pink

[upbeat yarrow]

cowards

[ashen perch]

I mean they did that with Mihawk's post ts color sceme, we saw that he is still red

[digital spear]

So glue

[ashen perch]

Sun Kuma > Gloomy dark Kuma

[vale heath]

Stronger will awaken the Pegasus zoan

[tulip turtle]

Luffy eats mother flame and turns pink

[upbeat yarrow]

make him neon green like those construction workers jackets

[digital spear]

Arent those bright yellow

[upbeat yarrow]

uhh

[digital spear]

I guess you could see it as green

[grand flower]

I fell asleep like right around when I said that so seeing this notification was so baffling for me at first

[upbeat yarrow]

that IS green

[digital spear]

This is the type of thing Cunk would argue the hell out and threaten to kill you because he thinks its green

[native seal]

thats green

[digital spear]

Lmfao

[ashen perch]

that is indeed just neon green

[grand flower]

Did you see my tags

[grand flower]

I was like “wtf was I talking about…”

[ashen perch]

oh lemme check

[native seal]

i hope the next chapter has tidbits about dragon escaping

goda give him a fruit

[grand flower]

Man it’s been 6 months since the flashback started

12 since sex got outta jail

Time is flying

[native seal]

who got outta jail

[grand flower]

Thugger

[native seal]

aint he drop that crazy song recently

[grand flower]

Lmaooooo

NINJA

NINJA

Losing his damn mind

[native seal]

my friend made me blind react to that shit i was baffled

[grand flower]

I love doing that to my friends

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/mustard-gif-4797247466307283957

[grand flower]

Making them react to the most insane shit that I def lead them to believe was normal

[ashen perch]

Well I agree about Imu being childish but I wouldn't say it has to mean that Teach will fit the personality of the devil better than him. What if the devil is meant to be spiteful, impulsive, childish and full of mischief? Making him essentially just a dark and twisted version of Nika? I think the whole idea is to make Imu and Luffy parallel each other in some ways, and that is what makes Imu most different from all the other antagonists in the series.

[frozen aspen]

https://twitter.com/SawdoJB/status/1985009429842993622

Sawdo (@SawdoJB)

Crazy how Akainu doesn’t need Domi reversi to be Imu’s dog

X · Nov 2, 2025, 3:41 PM

soo trueee

[ashen perch]

Akainu the big red dog

[tranquil blade]

So we moved on from Garp to Akainu huh

[urban lodge]

There's a decent chance this ages poorly

[digital spear]

op fans being the masters of making poorly aging memes

[frozen aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[ashen perch]

I expect Imu to be close to Luffy's age, his height, his personality, and powers. Height-wise, maybe he is even shorter. So him being childish tracks

[frozen aspen]

akainu will always be a dog mf is literally named dog

[tulip turtle]

mods open the spoiler chat

[ashen perch]

theres nothing

[digital spear]

What if hes a rabid dog

[tulip turtle]

someone posted

[frozen aspen]

thennwe put him down

[ashen perch]

lemme check but we'll still wait for redon

[grand flower]

Dunno bout that last sentence but it’s really cause I already think teach is stealing the power so I got to thinking how would Teach be distinct and more dangerous with it

and then I thought okay Myth Zoan awakening absorbing the personality is a good way to do it, Oda’s built that up quite a bit recently but hasnt shown us it just as recently

Then I realized those personality traits Imu has are the direct opposite of Blackbeards so bons your uncle

[tulip turtle]

mhm

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-theres-nothing-thank-you-son-chris-griffin-peter-griffin-gif-16308152171798273645

[ashen perch]

oh its just one so far, gotta wait for 2 more

you guys see it every week smh, we open with 3 hints because theres nothing to discuss with one

[tulip turtle]

oh i see

[tranquil blade]

There’s nothing to discuss with 3 hints either

[ashen perch]

well true

[grand flower]

That’s actually facts

We might as well be making predictions in here based on the chapter

[grand flower]

Context for this is so crazy bruh

I couldn’t believe it

I’m bouta go watch that video again

[dense rapids]

😭

[tranquil blade]

You might as well just start looking at star signs and see if any of them look like one piece

[ashen perch]

yeah I just think Imu already had the traits of the devil

[tranquil blade]

Was pops wrong for this?

[frozen aspen]

there is barely anything to discuss with " gif hints" in general but ppl get rabid if the channels aren't opened quick enough

[ashen perch]

well also, a bit too soon to say this, because he might just be the devil himself atp

[digital spear]

This is how Oda has me during some break weeks

[ashen perch]

Rocks calling Imu a monster........

[glass plume]

Imu is definitely not a human

[frozen aspen]

not anymore

[dense rapids]

Nerona Imu got corrupted

[glass plume]

or maybe Imu was a human but Mu certainly isn't

[digital spear]

Imu was a human in the past now hes literally a shadow of itself

[dense rapids]

Watch Oda give him a sad backstory

[glass plume]

i find it interesting why Imu refers to themselves as Mu

[warm sierra]

Literally teach has one now, I dont doubt it

[tulip turtle]

Imu is destined for sad backstory

I feel it

[dense rapids]

Imu legit gonna be trying to save the world

[urban lodge]

Unironically probably true

[warm sierra]

Vegapunk was also saying things arent just black and white

[urban lodge]

There's a pretty clear connection Imu has to nature

[glass plume]

that's one of the most interesting aspects imo

why they are surrounded by nature

when they cause such catastrophes

[warm sierra]

Butterflies dont hate the devil

[ashen perch]

the key is the 1st world

[tranquil blade]

Imu would kill 100,000 people to test out a weapon but he likes to take care of butterflies

[ashen perch]

maybe it was the humans that caused the sea devil to oppose them in the first place

[upbeat yarrow]

ive been thinking that the first world was battle of nature vs industry

[glass plume]

Imu probably views all of humanity as a flaw

[digital spear]

Insects

[dense rapids]

Moon people technology vs blue sea people

[ashen perch]

Imu being pro-nature, Humans being the ones who corrupted the earth, robbed it of its natural resources, went against the laws of nature and all that

[digital spear]

like the butterflies

or even less

[scenic dirge]

What if Imu was like “everyone is so mean to me 💔” then decided to take over the world

[urban lodge]

Humanity itself might be what corrupted Imu

[ashen perch]

that may have been the origin of the conflict

[digital spear]

Imu = Mother Nature

[warm sierra]

Davy Jones trying to be king

[ashen perch]

yeah

[digital spear]

He was in the shower naked too

[glass plume]

Imu being the forest god is likely, I agree

[digital spear]

Theres something up with mothers in One Piece

Mother Earth, Mother Nature, Mother Flame

[glass plume]

i don't think that Imu will be a female or male, but more like the literal definition of the devil

[dense rapids]

Mother Flame named after Nika’s mother

[tulip turtle]

mother sea

[upbeat yarrow]

maybe in that battle of nature and industry, imu (on the side of nature) won
so to keep humanity in check from creating more advanced and damaging technology, they created the WG

[ashen perch]

Imu being the mother nature would make him the most important mother, the opposite to adventure itself like Oda said...

[tulip turtle]

Oda kills off mothers too

[warm sierra]

And the WG then employs vegapunk to advance technology?

[upbeat yarrow]

the mother flame to be exact

a better weapon to keep humanity in check

[glass plume]

the mother flame was an imitation of the eternal flame, right?

[ashen perch]

well I believe it is because humanity robbed the planet of its natural mother flames already

[glass plume]

and the eternal flame is the sun we see Imu wield in the mural?

[ashen perch]

an imitation is preferable to that

[tulip turtle]

The mother flame might be created by scientists in the first world for the greed of humanity this could also be connected with nika creation.

[ashen perch]

Within the earth there was fire.
Mankind succumbed to greed and touched the forbidden sun.

[tulip turtle]

in counter earth opposed it and thus serpant of hell and possibly past imu were created

[ashen perch]

the origin of the conflict really, its all there in the 1st world

[dense rapids]

I wonder if Imu’s book will radiate pink light like the mother flame

[grand flower]

For sure. That’s why he awakened it after all. But we know that awakening runs the risk of being an absorbed by the Zoan. So having the traits gets you there, but there has to be something that makes it so that that risk exists and it makes sense for it to be Imus flaws, no? Especially when those flaws punctuate so many of his scenes, all of his most dramatic ones

[glass plume]

feels like Imu was an inheritor of something from the first world

i don't think that Nerona Imu existed before the Void Century

but the entity which has been inherited did

[grand flower]

Moon people attempting to harvest resources from the earth I bet. Why the Lunarian ended up wiped out. Perhaps all of the special races are extraterrestrials who came from the moon?

Minus giants?

[frozen aspen]

oh redon is starting to post now

[glass plume]

i think all of the races derives from the sky people

[dense rapids]

Nerona Imu is a human from the void century but the power they obtained is from the First World and corrupted them turning them into the being “Mu”

[grand flower]

Maybe humans and giants lived together on Bluestar, and then the Moon folk came to harvest the planet and the giants helped them against Imu and the humans

[wraith mantle]

redon is back!!!

[urban lodge]

It would be interesting if the sea devil is mother nature itself

[grand flower]

First world @ashen perch

[tulip turtle]

What if imu pulls a anakin skywalker

[grand flower]

Second world was void century

[urban lodge]

Like, a real entity, that possessed the monarch Nerona Imu

[glass plume]

i think the sea devil is Poseidon ironically enough

[grand flower]

Age of Heaven is the first calendar because the moon people came down to harvest the planets resources

Enel’s mural is the first world

[glass plume]

they're the embodiment of the sea

[digital spear]

Same I just wonder if its always 2 beings who possess others then

[glass plume]

wdym?

[urban lodge]

What's the other being?

[ashen perch]

I feel like the age of heaven started even before the first world though, since that Elbaf facility/robot is 1100 years deep into that age

[grand flower]

Yeah I just figured this shit out

[digital spear]

Mother Nature and Nerona Imu

[grand flower]

First world is before the void century

[urban lodge]

Oh, maybe

[dense rapids]

Yea based on what Oda revealed it seems like the Moon People only go to the blue planet at the end of the age of Heaven

[ashen perch]

oh yea, just saying that facility, which was likely from the first world, was still 1100 years after the start of the age of heaven

[glass plume]

if mother nature was an entity in of itself, would they really allow the use of the ancient weapons?

[ashen perch]

so there is something that precedes the first world even

[glass plume]

such as when Imu erased Lulusia

[urban lodge]

My idea is Nerona Imu was a real human monarch and they got possessed by the sea devil/mother nature. I think it's the same being. Mother nature was corrupted due to the exploitation of natural resources in the first world

[maiden charm]

Definitely,you can see them in the elephant in the first world

[ashen perch]

when that flashback, Oda is going to really get fully into it I think, start from the origin of humanity and all

[grand flower]

What?

[digital spear]

if St. Nerona Imu was possessed by Mother Nature is Imu then both and possesses others like Saturn and Gunko like this? Or does the real Imu even exist anymore

[grand flower]

If it’s after the start of the Age of Heaven, that puts it within the First World

Age of Heaven and First World are the same thing

[glass plume]

atp the entity which is Mu and Imu have probably merged more or less, even if they were 2 from the get-go

[grand flower]

Is what I’m getting at

[digital spear]

Yes to kill humans

[maiden charm]

Reading this is making my "Imu is a space parasite" theory all the more plausible

[glass plume]

but what about the nature? and the animals

[frozen aspen]

he was back last week too he just took his sweet time

Maybe the sea devil is nami's mom knowing oda

[digital spear]

The ocean is a cradle of nature and it makes the sea rise up so maybe thats more important

[glass plume]

i suppose so, sacrifice for the greater good or whatever

[dense rapids]

Imu is trying to restart the world

[grand flower]

In the First World, moon folk ran out of resources and came to the Blue Planet for theirs. Enel’s mural and “within the earth, there was fire.” This is the Age of Heaven

The age of the Sea Circle begins after I think. I think the Red Line was created 741 years ago

[digital spear]

Remember when Nusjuro wanted the weapon to be used over a forest but then Imu said Lulusia

[urban lodge]

Life started in the ocean so that could be the idea behind Imu's cleansing

[grand flower]

Lemme see if theres statements that contradict that

[dense rapids]

741?

[glass plume]

well, i think that Imu really just chose Lulusia because it's the nearest lol

[dense rapids]

That would mean during the VC

[glass plume]

i don't think they had anymore thought to it than that

[ashen perch]

oh I'm looking at the timeline now, I guess the 1st world can really be everything from 5000 years ago to 1500 years ago

unlike the 2nd and 3rd worlds, which have been way shorter

[glass plume]

didn't the gorosei also refer to Imu as the creator?

[ashen perch]

they did

[dense rapids]

So Joy Boy stumbles upon something in the VC and that’s how he learns of the 1st world?

[glass plume]

that makes me think that Imu was the one responsible for the red-line at least

[dense rapids]

I’m assuming Nika will be connected to what comes before the First World

Whatever made the world restart then will be crazy

[ashen perch]

thats how I picture it, its gonna be his moment of discovering the true history within a flashback where the SHs are learning the true history

[maiden charm]

I believe Nika is in the first and second world

[dense rapids]

Nika and Joy boy aren’t the same

[glass plume]

i think Nika was in the first world, Joyboy in the second and Luffy in the third

[dense rapids]

If Nika even is his name

I think it’s Adam

[digital spear]

Adventures with Adam & Mu

[upbeat yarrow]

now where does davy jones fit into this goddamn chronology

[grand flower]

That can work

[dense rapids]

Void Century

[grand flower]

The void century is the bridge between the first and second worlds

[glass plume]

king of the Ancient Kingdom

[ashen perch]

yea, Shandora was only built 1100 years ago so the era of moonfolk on Bluestar is very late into the Age of Heaven

[hard fulcrum]

The Lunarians lived there before, didn't they? Or... whatever became the Red Line if it's artificial. The CD's did a genocide on the Lunarians to get that place. I wonder if King knows anything...

[maiden charm]

I never said that but go off

[dense rapids]

Davy Jones could be the earth god from the first word and simply became a pirate years later

[glass plume]

yeah they lived above the Red-Line

[tulip turtle]

I think all the mythical zoan models are based upon people in the first world model Buddha, model Nika, model Seiryu.

[glass plume]

King probably knows more than we know at least

but hey, i don't expect Oda to let him spill it

[grand flower]

It was erased because the creation of the red line killed so many people

[hard fulcrum]

Interestingly, he and Doffy, another source of dangerous knowledge, should be in the same place now.

[grand flower]

Maybe the Lunarian came down before them and established their godhood by enslaving the natives to harvest resources.

[glass plume]

the easiest answer would just be if Davy Jones was the king of the Ancient Kingdom, or the giant landmass which was before the first flood

[glass plume]

yeah if King didn't get sent to Udon

[tulip turtle]

Davy Jones may be someone in the void century who was close to becoming king but got betrayed or defeated immediately.

[dense rapids]

Yea that’s what I expect

[hard fulcrum]

Aramaki got him.

[ashen perch]

The redline must have been created in the 1st world then, since their kingdom of gods was on top of it

[glass plume]

he should have yeah, but we've got no confirmation on where he is

[tulip turtle]

I guess the model serpent of hell could exist somewhere in the one piece world if all the models of mythical zoan devil fruits are based on the first world

[hard fulcrum]

Wano isn't a WG country, so he wouldn't get dumped there because it's not under WG control (or functional, at present).

[glass plume]

yeah, well Shanks told Aramaki to piss off so some are lead to believe that he didn't care about getting King or Queen to Impel Down on his way back, yet again we have no confirmation on what happened with them iirc

they could've been sent to Udon or Impel Down

[ashen perch]

Aramaki likely left immediately, I think Shanks would have waited for him to leave before leaving himself and Shanks left immediately

[ashen perch]

Queen is free and he is going to join Neo-Mads, King is free and I still expect him to join Yamato

[hard fulcrum]

I suspect he would have grabbed them. Especially King, who is extremely valuable as the last natural Lunarian. More than previously given the Seraphim and such.

[glass plume]

i also think that he should've grabbed them on the way back considering that Wano didn't want them either way

[ashen perch]

he should've but I doubt he did

I dont see why Shanks would leave Wano immediately if Aramaki was still around

[dense rapids]

Film red promo

[hard fulcrum]

Because Observation should tell him Aramaki's intent to leave.

[ashen perch]

it is Film Red that is promo for the manga lol, not the other way around

[glass plume]

Aramaki could've probably scooped up Queen and King relatively quickly and then left

[ashen perch]

the last thing these films that are being heavily promoted across Japan need is for Oda to reference them in his manga, that take never made sense to me

Shanks was there because Oda wanted him to be, thats all

[grand flower]

Hm I’ll try this again later

[ashen perch]

yeah same lol

I gotta figure out the timeline

[grand flower]

It’s too early for now

[ashen perch]

yea for sure

[dense rapids]

The green is the red line

It was probably green in the past

[ashen perch]

I just dont think so, I think he left within seconds

[dense rapids]

Fairy Vearth

[maiden charm]

The giants regularly debate over the real identity of Nika , they argue that he is a destroyer and others a liberator.

The First world "From Whispered Prayers the sun god arose, beckoned by the enslave who reached for the forbidden sun"
Nika the liberator

The Second world " The God of the forest wove their magic, nurturing it's devils.While the sun lit the embers of war"
This was Nika the Destroyer, only spreading destruction and war, he was betrayed
It should be obvious Joyboy was the one in the third world given emeth and the ancient giants.

[ashen perch]

King and Queen should be free anyways, it would suck if they werent

[dense rapids]

Third world is the current world

[digital spear]

Would be weird if King didnt join them in the coverstory but after so either they rot in Udon or Aramaki took them which I hope. I dont think it wouldve needed long for him to fly back to Udon and grab King and Queen with him. We also didnt see them in Udon in the coverstory so I feel like he did it

[maiden charm]

The "will they never meet again " at the end of third world is literal

[maiden charm]

How if emeth is gone ?

[dense rapids]

That part of the mural is showing the VC war

[ashen perch]

the 3rd world is not on the mural

it can't be, those kids were not seeing the future

[glass plume]

the third world is playing out as we see it

[maiden charm]

What I'm trying to say

[dense rapids]

Those are just everyone’s counterparts from the VC

[maiden charm]

Third world already happened

[hard fulcrum]

It also gives them a way to return and link a few things together, since Impel Down is not withstanding much more sea level rises.

[glass plume]

no, we're witnessing the third world imo

[dense rapids]

*is happening

[urban lodge]

Third world is right now

[rose rune]

the mural is really old, we're already at the 15th world

[ashen perch]

I feel like the coverstory ended abruptly because Oda wanted some major developments to be saved for the main story, like King joining Yamato or Queen joining Neo-Mads, we will see though

[grand flower]

King could end up in cross guild, Queen in neo-MADS

[maiden charm]

If the third world is happening, someone please explain the ancient giant(not the one that looks like Loki)

[urban lodge]

Loki's ancestor

[grand flower]

I don’t think shanks would have prevented Aramaki from arresting king and queen

[maiden charm]

He's fighting by his ancestor?

[urban lodge]

?

[ashen perch]

Queen is more likely to join Cross Guild I think, as part of Neo Mads

[urban lodge]

Loki and Harald have the same type of horns so their ancestors probably did too, and that giant is fighting with a spear

[ashen perch]

I think King is going to be one of the good guys, he isnt joining that group of supervillains imo

[dense rapids]

Cross Guild will save the world???

[ashen perch]

no they wont

[dense rapids]

*hand on shoulder

[hard fulcrum]

Cross Guild are anti-villains atm tbh. They're main target is the WG after all. And King has no love of the WG.

[maiden charm]

I can't remix it, but there are multiple ancient giants in the 3rd world so I dont understand how the third world is happening rn, if it's been heavily implied all the races united behind Joyboy and that's what's exactly depicted in the 3rd world

[ashen perch]

its literally all the supervillains in the story, like the entire group is composed of actual arc villains

[dense rapids]

Yes villains

Who will stop the bad people

[warm sierra]

Was Mihawk ever an arc villain really

[maiden charm]

And the ancient giants are no more unless they are hidden somewhere ....like the south pole perhaps??

[ashen perch]

Crocodile, Buggy, in the future: Doflamingo, Moria, Ceasar, Judge, and Queen

Mihawk was the secondary antagonist in Baratie

[urban lodge]

The only one on the mural we can say for sure is an ancient giant is that one, but Loki doesn't fight with a spear

[warm sierra]

They‘ll unfreeze the galley la dudes

[hard fulcrum]

Yeah. They're anti-villains. Basically, ruthless people doing something pretty good (fighting the WG). Crocodile especially has been hating the WG for as long as we've known him.

[urban lodge]

Guiding the world to its end huh

[maiden charm]

I'm for this

[dense rapids]

Buggy, Doffy, Mihawk, Crocodile and Moria vs Imu gonna be insane

[ashen perch]

more like fighting the Marines lol, none of them have ever said anything against the actual Celestials leading them

[dense rapids]

Luffy will destroy the world to recreate it

[hard fulcrum]

I'm still doubting Doffy (forever sus) but Moria seems inevitable right now.

[glass plume]

this is just a normal giant

[dense rapids]

That’s skinny dorry

[ashen perch]

yeah that one is just wearing a helmet

[glass plume]

no, it's just a normal giant

[urban lodge]

Yeah those are just hornet helmets

[glass plume]

not any specific one

[hard fulcrum]

Crocodile has mentioned he wants to make a Utopia the WG can't influence and he wants the power to defend it (hence going after Pluton). He's also got links with the Revolutionaries (Iva).

[maiden charm]

Hmm, maybe. Horns throw it off

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/dorry-dorry-one-piece-brogy-brogy-one-piece-dorry-and-brogy-gif-17411975353024495616

[urban lodge]

Nah it's pretty clear

[dense rapids]

Just that type of helmet

[urban lodge]

The ancient giant on the mural is way bigger

Naturally

It's definitely not Loki, it's his ancestor

[glass plume]

it's just a helmet like everyone else said

[maiden charm]

Yea I understand after the 6 people corrected me

[ashen perch]

true, but Buggy isnt interested in that atleast

[ashen perch]

If Loki's fruit really is the other fruit and its not Nika, then I guess this would explain why Rocks wanted Harald to eat it

because in the past, it was used by an ancient giant

[maiden charm]

Regardless if there's multiple ancient giants or not wasn't really my point, my point was the third world already happened. But ye,prolly his ancestor

[urban lodge]

But what evidence do we have for that

[glass plume]

i am more interested in why Harald didn't want to eat it

[ashen perch]

ideally its just Nika and Loki's fruit but Yami is inevitably the 2nd fruit

[maiden charm]

Emeth already falling in egghead?

They gonna pull him out of the sea ?

Don't answer that

[urban lodge]

You're contradicting yourself

That only supports that it's the 2nd world being depicted

[warm sierra]

Was WB present when Rocks was talking about the fruits?

[maiden charm]

How? I could head cannon the saryama alliance lifting emith out of sea but emeth is literally in the third world

He fell at egghead

[ashen perch]

yea

Rocks never mentions the names of the fruits tho

[urban lodge]

Yeah, I wonder if there really is something to the same pattern being found on the ancient giant's clothes and the serpent

[dense haven]

lokis fruit is the gomu but they thought it was nika

[ashen perch]

yea, I was thinking he'd have the serpent because of the pattern on the ancient giant in the mural

[glass plume]

tell that to Vegapunk

[ashen perch]

I guess we could be finding it out soon, unless Oda does the Aurust Incident without revealing Loki's fruit lol

[dense haven]

more like vegayap

[tulip turtle]

What if it was some holy knight who changed the fruit to serpent of hell one because imu wanted harald to eat it

[dense haven]

shanks swapped the fruits when he was in elbaf

he swapped nika and gomu

[urban lodge]

Well he had almost half of him bitten off by Ju Peter and his weaponry had long stopped working, and no one alive can replicate technology like his to repair him, not even Vegapunk

[glass plume]

what if it wasn't Shanks, but Shamrock

[urban lodge]

So I doubt he's getting repaired to fight again

[maiden charm]

Ur literally just proving my point....

[urban lodge]

No?

[maiden charm]

Third world already happened

That's my point

[ashen perch]

I can see Franky save Emeth when he's ready for it, but right now theres no chance

[maiden charm]

"I doubt he's getting repaired to fight again" is that not proving my point

[urban lodge]

No

[grand flower]

I think the mural is ever green because the OP world has a cyclical history

[hard fulcrum]

That wouldn't make sense given the Who's Who and Gorosei breakdown. The Rubber Fruit doesn't exist at all and was just a cover-name for Nika.

[maiden charm]

No emeth to get repaired no emeth in the third world
If it's happening now

[grand flower]

Frankys super robot

For the final war

[maiden charm]

I'm for that

[tulip turtle]

no one dreamed of becoming a rubber

[dense haven]

yea just like he was gonna use queens arm in wano

[ashen perch]

he still has it

[grand flower]

Hell convert the sunny into a mecha ans itll have a klaubermann

[warm sierra]

Franky will become the sunny

[maiden charm]

I'm fine with all these ideas y'all, the Galley Ra coming back,Franky converting emeth, all of it

[grand flower]

The concept of a caught-up OP fan who thinks the lack of immediate pay off means ignore set up

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-film-red-red-movie-sunny-gif-18343732545321420583

[tranquil blade]

I hate this little creature

[urban lodge]

I'm sorry but your point is really confusing, you recognized the mural is depicting the 2nd world but you think the 3rd world already happened too?

[maiden charm]

I think the mural is depicting all three worlds and all three already happened

[grand flower]

The third world description ends with “they will meet again” so it couldnt have happened already

[urban lodge]

I see, but I don't think that makes much sense either given the Harley text

[maiden charm]

Hence why I said the the Nika in the second and first world are the same. The destroyer /liberator debated in the Harley text.
They met again because Joyboy was Nika through the fruit.

[tulip turtle]

so who would be the "laughter" interpretation of nika?

[tranquil blade]

The third world to me sounds like it's written in the future tense so I feel like it hasn't happened yet

[dense haven]

you can see loki and laboon fighting there so it's the future

[vale heath]

I can’t ever imagine having 99+ notifs

[tulip turtle]

Luffy carrying sword and shield

[vale heath]

I get anxious when it’s more than 4

[tranquil blade]

The 2nd and 1st worlds are written in past tense too so idk it seems a little obvious the third world is the current era

[maiden charm]

That's just multiple discords,Im only active in like 2-3 of em

It's all push notifications

[dense haven]

discord notif mute never works

[maiden charm]

Ong

[dense haven]

pisscord

[vale heath]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-nitro-gif-22312286

Imagine paying money for features that were free 3 years ago

[tulip turtle]

Tbh they are making sense
because the three worlds clearly depict the different interpretations of nika
First world = Slaves prayed to nika and nika appeared to liberate them
THE LIBERATOR

Second world = Nika in here is trying to start a war
THE DESTROYER

Third world = nika in here is guiding the world to its end by laughing and dancing
THE LAUGHTER

[maiden charm]

U get me morgs

[digital spear]

I waited for emotes to be able to used for over 8 years now

[tranquil blade]

I gave up on waiting

[dense haven]

remember when we had free global emotes

[digital spear]

Im just gonna raid discord HQ now

[vale heath]

Small semantic correct because English is really dumb
The correct form would be The Laugher

[digital spear]

Wait I completely forgot

Why did they remove it...

[dense haven]

money

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-crying-cry-mad-angry-gif-25839527

[vale heath]

Laugh is the verb, laughter is the noun and action (sometimes a verb but mostly noun), and laugher is a person that is doing the laughter

Fuck English this is stupid

[dense haven]

I used to have 300 pepe servers

joined

[grand flower]

I think it’s gonna end up being buggy

They say nika is a leader, liberator, comedian, and destroyer

[dense haven]

the johny sins of one piece

[grand flower]

Leader = Imu idk

Liberator = Luffy myth zoan

Comedian = buggy Paramecia

Destroyer = Loki logia

[urban lodge]

But the meeting between whoever "they" are still hasn't happened, it's written in future tense

[grand flower]

Maybe Imu is just natural

The dark version

But I’d bank on these three

[urban lodge]

And if that were the case the same would apply to Luffy, he has the same fruit

[tranquil blade]

I think whatever Imu is beyond just the void century, I wonder if it's like a Uta and Tot Musica thing

Where Imu has these powers but there is another entity lurking within him

[digital spear]

Mother Nature...

[urban lodge]

Indeed

The sea devil is a corrupted mother nature

[tranquil blade]

or St Nerona Imu's personality has long been eroded away and all that's left is the monster that gave him that power

[digital spear]

Thats what im wondering is Imu even Imu anymore

[tranquil blade]

My current theory is that Mu and Imu are two separate things, and Mu needs a vessel to inhabit in order to interact with the physical world, kind of like the concept of demons in real life with possession

[glass plume]

y'all think that Imu's sillhouette will be accurate?

[tulip turtle]

Maybe the giants of Elbaf, after viewing the Harley text, couldn’t fully grasp the connection between the Liberator, the Destroyer, and the Laughter. Each world’s description seems to suggest a different interpretation of Nika, which might have led to confusion or conflicting beliefs among them.

[royal orchid]

we're yet to see what happens to imu when they possess someone

[digital spear]

So whenever Mu is in Mariejois hes in Imus body but he can also possess others? If he does that does he take Imu with him or is Imus body just left there? Is Imu only a lifeless puppet anymore?

[tranquil blade]

My idea is the body of whatever we see in Mariejois stays there in some form when he possesses someone else

[royal orchid]

imagine we finally see it and it's actually another gunko

[glass plume]

i have a feeling that Imu will look like Luffy to some extent

they'll have the same proportions

[tranquil blade]

All very speculative for now, but since Imu is very much being compared to demons by Oda it's very possible it'll work like that

[tulip turtle]

I have explained how imu can take over other bodies here : #manga-serious message

[digital spear]

I was wondering how the heck Imu did that but this makes sense

[hard fulcrum]

I suspect you may be more right than you know--we've seen that the Gods Knights (and Shanks) have Abyssal Marks that they wear. In Shanks's case it's inked onto him.

[tranquil blade]

I could see it

[hard fulcrum]

So, perhaps certain valuable 'puppets' have these marks through which Imu can spread.

[tranquil blade]

Imu's truest form may be in the abyss itself

[glass plume]

i think that everyone who gains power from Imu's source, have a little bit of Imu inside of them

[royal orchid]

my idea was that a contract with imu would turn you into a mass of abyss yourself

https://tenor.com/view/saturn-saturn-one-piece-one-piece-jaygarcia-saturn-gorosei-gif-16714611117298484146

[glass plume]

so Imu can manifest through them

[warm sierra]

Shanks just casually living in the holy land for a bit is still such a headscratcher

[urban lodge]

Probably part of some sort of plan

[digital spear]

Shanks chilling back at the Figarland Mansion

[hard fulcrum]

Shanks's mark is the simplest of the ones we've seen. Killingham and Sommers have the same mark but with horns attached to the upper part of the cross. We haven't had a clear look at Gunko or Shamrock's yet. The Gorosei are mostly covered too.

[royal orchid]

this would explain why every immortal WG enemy can be cut so easily without having to resort to meta discussion

[glass plume]

have we seen any God Knight bleed?

[urban lodge]

Sommers and Garling have

[royal orchid]

we've seen saturn bleed

[glass plume]

right

[hard fulcrum]

I think so, but it's never coloured in the manga. They could bleed black or something.

[urban lodge]

Sorry for liking a character

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[glass plume]

what

[urban lodge]

???

[digital spear]

Lmaooo

[royal orchid]

you do that?

[graceful belfry]

[olive sigil]

I love your Jinbe pfp

[urban lodge]

Why are gear 5 pfps like this

[warm sierra]

Wont be happy when they have to change the pfp to gear death

[final trench]

Hell no fuck luffy fans

Niggas scared of agenda

[royal orchid]

toei representative and oda discussing why the hell he didn't say that before and now they have to retcon it

https://tenor.com/view/black-black-dude-laugh-the-clown-dr-reasons-gif-3745936416528146845

[digital spear]

Imu pfps: Kindest and most wholesome people you will ever meet
Luffy pfps: Racist misogynist toxic annoying

[olive sigil]

It’s Toei. They’ll bleed in 50 different colours

[urban lodge]

Lmao

[somber rivet]

Just like in Dangarropa

Pink is the Soul of the blood

[olive sigil]

Naked guy with a Santa hat drawing manga: coolest guy ever

[iron oriole]

Funny how that works huh

[urban lodge]

This is a real phenomenon, and it probably comes from the inability of some people to separate the actions of a character from how enjoyable they can be or how well written they are

[somber rivet]

Usually, that happen a lot in real life. Just like with serial killer having a lot of fans and lovers

Somehow

[final trench]

…..

Racially motivated but fairs

[olive sigil]

Hi Sharon

[royal orchid]

..... 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 you not dragon bro 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I'm crine 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 son 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[final trench]

Folk 🙏🏾

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/petedvdsn-drulz-peteypie-pete-davidson-petedvdsn-drulz-peteypie-pete-gif-14311370286529623382

[final trench]

This server is sum else man

[slim fjord]

nah nigga ts goon piece

[olive sigil]

Jinbe pfp: weirdos who say the wildest shit

[iron oriole]

Natural selection springs to mind

[royal orchid]

who the hell is jinbe

[grand flower]

Who let the schools back out

[olive sigil]

The guy on your pfp

[royal orchid]

no my pfp's a picture of me

idk what you're seeing

[olive sigil]

So you’re jinbe?

[stray prism]

its blue what else is blue other than jinbe

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/yugamu-yugamu-omokage-omokage-omokage-yugamu-hundred-line-gif-16414115189843140767

[urban lodge]

Gumball would not love you

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/brokengjh-solarnostalgia-stan-twitter-darwin-gumball-disgusted-gif-23625060

[digital spear]

This is heartbreaking

[hard fulcrum]

It's also an expected feature of late-stage capitalism and consumerism. Consumption becomes activism, becomes morality, and people begin to identify themselves with and by things like the media they consume. The fans of problematic characters/brands/whatever therefore become problematic themselves to some.

[tulip olive]

Facts he would love me

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-25682752

[royal orchid]

only two things are blue... jinbe and SBS 113 question 7

[tulip turtle]

Yes! and Imu used that same Abyssal power inside Saturn to manifest itself in God valley.

[digital spear]

Pigeon

I didnt want to ignore it I wanted to pigeon

[royal orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-falls-through-ground-gif-18154314812483306919

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/gumball-tawog-clown-rotation-darwin-gif-7360995457648710190

[royal orchid]

oh I hate this scene

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/sussie-sus-sussy-sussy-baka-sussie-tawog-gif-25199053

[stray prism]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-gumball-get-gum-richard-watterson-gif-25097208

[glass plume]

kids has to get nigthmares from that

[digital spear]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-get-real-meme-morty-smith-rick-san-gif-14536506705192490051

[glass plume]

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-go-doc-gotta-go-dies-im-dead-im-ded-gif-25965786

[digital spear]

I didnt know that actor was still alive

[glass plume]

he went back to the future

[potent pier]

So guys, theories on how Kuma got people over to Sorbet from God Valley?

[frozen aspen]

Gandalfs actor is also still alive right

[digital spear]

Bro played an old man 40 years ago

[hexed ridge]

Okay i might be right, Roger and Garp might destroy God valley to kill rocks with the ocean, and the marines/roger pirates will pick them up

[potent pier]

Unless Kuma is extreamely great at Geometry at that age, there is no way in hell he got those people cross the red line according to the currently understood limits of his fruit

[olive sigil]

Oh my god that’s the movie name. GODA

[rich hornet]

Gotta go? Back to the past. Samurai Jack

[native seal]

am i forgetting something, isnt it as simple as "kuma visits a place, he can teleport someone there"

[urban lodge]

The issue is Sorbet is on the other side of the red line

But he probably didn't send them there

Only himself, Ginny and Iva

They likely made some stops along the way to god valley on some random islands

[grand flower]

Get this man a true

[potent pier]

And I'm talking about a 9 year old Kuma who just got that ability less than an hour ago

[tulip olive]

So thats his cut and is that the dude from it

[urban lodge]

What I mean is he probably sent them to those unnamed islands instead of sending everyone to the red line where he'd have to use his powers again to get them to Sorbet

[potent pier]

I understood what you mean

[stone tulip]

I can see that especially how celestial dragons tend to visit islands as we saw in post war flashback with them possibly taking their slaves with them (including Kuma), heck Kuma could have been at Sabaody too since Celestial dragons are commonly there to buy slaves

[rich hornet]

It’s magic powers man. He’s not doing trigonometry and accounting for the curvature of the planet

[potent pier]

Magic powers that have clearly explained rules to it

[urban lodge]

The only two rules that we know of are that he must have visited the place before and it can't be on the other side of the red line

[wide star]

Jaya reread gonna hit different after this flashback

[potent pier]

Who said that it can't be on the other side of the red line?

[tranquil blade]

Do we know where Kuma was born?

[wide star]

Imu- “End Davys Dream”

Teach- People’s Dream , Never End! “

[potent pier]

If you get launched form a high enough elevation, you could cross the red line easily

[rich hornet]

Kuma when he smacked his face into the red line lol

[urban lodge]

Well it's just how it has worked throughout the entire series so far, the only time he tried to go to a place on the other side (Egghead) he crashed into the red line and had to climb up to use his powers again

[rich hornet]

Jaya has been and remains the best arc

[urban lodge]

Sorbet

[potent pier]

Sorbet Kingdom

[tranquil blade]

Oh it actually was? Then yeah that’s probably where Teach and Eris got sent

[potent pier]

Read the comment I've made after I said that

[rich hornet]

Maybe like a sky island. The red line is very big

[stone tulip]

Every pre time skip for sure would be affected by the final saga in general, happened with Egghead where we changed how we viewed Arabasta and Sabaody arcs for example

[stone tulip]

The whole skypiea saga is underrated

[potent pier]

Tbh Oda never gave an exact average height of the red line

[tough igloo]

Oda is cooking up something

[potent pier]

Because currently, the theory where Kuma sent them is Sorbet Kingdom

[tranquil blade]

I mean he’s pretty young so he probably hasn’t been to many places

[urban lodge]

The red line is probably higher than even sky islands

[potent pier]

Doubt that

[urban lodge]

He sent Nami to a sky island but still couldn't cross the red line

[native seal]

has loki's VA been revealed

[potent pier]

Heard that sky island was over Sabody when that happend

[tranquil blade]

I dont think so

[potent pier]

Nami had the shortest trip

[rich hornet]

More like people are guessing this based off limited info

[potent pier]

Ussop (According to O'Hara's world map scale) had the longest trip

[fallen meteor]

Its me

[native seal]

yeah im dropping the anime

[fallen meteor]

Exclusive inside scoop for #also-manga

[prisma idol]

They're making Loki sound like a nerd?

Interesting choice

[rich hornet]

He kinda is tho

Big Rocks nerd

[digital spear]

But how far

Was it under other sky islands

If its on the same level then yeah Red Line is taller

[rich hornet]

That doesn’t matter. Weatheria was on the paradise side

[sly belfry]

Also isnt weatheria constantly moving, how did kuma send accurwtely

[rich hornet]

And it was a shot upwards

[rich hornet]

Magic fruit powers. He’s not making the calcs himself, the fruit knows

[digital spear]

It doesnt matter what side it is but if its higher than Red Line then Kuma couldnt send anyone there

[sly belfry]

Bro DOES NOT have the magnet fruit

[pulsar path]

My bad im super late but yeah!! He seems to !!

[fallen meteor]

🤓 actually

[potent pier]

Google ai overview (take this with a grain of salt) said it over 7000 meters over the grand line

[rich hornet]

These are unrelated points

[rich hornet]

There’s no source on that

[rich hornet]

Iirc it’s pulling from some reddit thread

[digital spear]

it reaches the clouds

[sly belfry]

it has to atleast 8000m, or else luffy would be fisher tiger level in drum island

[warm sierra]

They dont make real water like this anymore

[rich hornet]

Mountain scaling

[sly belfry]

crazy loki got prime kaido and fisher tiger feats as a kid

[iron oriole]

1 minute year old Loki tanking a fall that Kaido wishes would kill him

Killing an Elbafian Bear in the process

[potent pier]

Essentially skypeia is 10,000 meters above sea level

[digital spear]

Loki stole Kaidos flashback

[pulsar path]

Still crazy to me the wg hasn't taken skypia unless Berka was there plan

[iron oriole]

Its probably not that easy tbf

[pulsar path]

I mean it's not that hard ether if a pirate group can do it of 8

[potent pier]

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[iron oriole]

I mean... said group used the hardest method

They dont count

[pulsar path]

I'm sure the wg would only need to send one god knight to make a symbol to summon the rest

We have demonic transportation now

[iron oriole]

There is supposedly an easy way up there

[digital spear]

We still need to see if Elbaf is the other method

[rich hornet]

Don’t think too hard about the HK and the abyss or the series breaks

[pulsar path]

As much as ai love Bellamy idk if he made it to elbaf 🤣

Oh wait maybe Arnette is Bellamy

Yes

That's gotta be it

[digital spear]

Who is Arnette 😭

[rich hornet]

The famous explorer

[pulsar path]

Arnote*

[rich hornet]

Wait is arnette the guy who played Lego Batman?

[fallen meteor]

Its uh

[pulsar path]

Almost has good as my misspelling of klunberjockin

[fallen meteor]

Willian arnote or something like that

[pulsar path]

Lmao yes will Arnette🤣

https://tenor.com/view/jason-bateman-will-arnett-arrested-development-chicken-dance-michael-bluth-gif-27316627

[digital spear]

Klabautermann?

[pulsar path]

Yeah lmao 🤣

[iron oriole]

Klabautermann?

Damn i got snailed this time

Its over

[digital spear]

Its easy just be german

[digital spear]

Why did it become black

[sly belfry]

reminded me of this

[hot cairn]

Bojack Horseman

[sly belfry]

who's that peeking

[azure wasp]

Orochi

[sly belfry]

smart

[urban lodge]

Enel

[wet heron]

he's peaking

[stone terrace]

People using editor comments as evidence:

[wet heron]

[hot cairn]

evidence for what

[stone terrace]

Anything

[frozen aspen]

my agenda

[pulsar path]

I never watched that I should tho

[frozen aspen]

dunno

looks ugly

[ashen perch]

well it depends on the editor

[hot cairn]

it’s peak

[ashen perch]

editors are generally notorious for not really giving a shit with their statements lol

[frozen aspen]

only in mihawks dreams lmao

[ashen perch]

I think this new guy has been good though, like I havent really seen a bad editor statement from him

he's more experienced than the usual editor too

[digital spear]

Just gave up on this one

[pulsar path]

Damn alright I need a new show to watch after king of the hill, on lseason 10 I'll add Bojack toon the list!

[hot cairn]

isnt the new one the JJK one

[ashen perch]

yeah

[pulsar path]

Wow but really he doesn't do as much as other editors because of oda asking for them not to right?

Like no plot suggestion or something

[ashen perch]

Oda has never asked his editors to not suggest things to him lol

[digital spear]

I imagine him being flabbergasted because Oda skips so many fights

[ashen perch]

On the contrary, he tells them that they are his first audience and they should feel free to criticize the work when they feel like it. The ones that dont criticize Oda just dont do it because they are cowards

[hot cairn]

true, or that he doesn’t kill anybody

[ashen perch]

theres like only 1% of the fights that Oda skipped that I think he should have shown

[digital spear]

What if this editor pushed Oda to show God Valley now

[ashen perch]

JJK editor likely understands this too, its why he let him get away with Garling v Rocks lmao

[ashen perch]

I have joked about it but I dont think it is the case

[digital spear]

Mihawks POV after accidentally switching to inside camera

[ashen perch]

i think the REAL reason is actually the upcoming cutaways in Elbaf

[stone terrace]

I dont think we're getting cutaways

[ashen perch]

Oda said we will though

[stone terrace]

Oda is a liar

[ashen perch]

he is just slow at getting to it, give him some time

well not slow but more like

he is terrible at estimating how long its gonna take for him to get to something in the story

[pulsar path]

Yeah he out out a statement saying he can't take suggestion anymore from his editors story wise because he can't have any more distraction for finishing onepiece or something

[frozen aspen]

wdym cutaways

[ashen perch]

outside world stuff

like in Egghead, we cutaway from the island to focus on the revos, garp, kid, etc

[ashen perch]

I dont think this is true lol

[pulsar path]

I'll try and find it

[iron oriole]

I highly doubt he wouldn't take suggestions

[ashen perch]

he has said the opposite like I said

he treats them as his first audience

[iron oriole]

It could be 2 weeks before OP ends & i believe Oda would still ask his editors

[ashen perch]

yeah for sure

[hot cairn]

it doesn’t feel like it but according to the jump festa message we are getting them

[ashen perch]

speaking of the editor, its gonna be funny when Oda shows this fight that he was always going to show

"JJK's editor influenced him "

I can see it

[hot cairn]

it’ll be 2 clashes max

[ashen perch]

we are getting one chapter titled "Garp and Roger v Rocks" ATLEAST

Mute meek for 40 days if I am wrong

[iron oriole]

"Hero's of God Valley"

Show Garp & Roger vs Rocks as the main thing
Show Kuma wrapping up & leaving (thats if he didn't actually leave last chapter)
Show Dragon doing whatever else he can

[ashen perch]

I say one chapter atleast because that is Oda's standard for all fights, but he deviated it from multiple times during Onigashima

[torn ferry]

wait new editor

when was that annpunced

[ashen perch]

early Elbaf

[torn ferry]

damn

[unique lagoon]

What's the recent popular theory nowadays

[torn ferry]

zki

[ashen perch]

Junya Fukuda, he was the editor for the entire 2nd half of JJK

[unique lagoon]

Zoro kills imu😔

[iron oriole]

Eris being alive & manipulating/influencing/master mind behind BB

[stone terrace]

Meh if its what i expect from an oda fight then no

[twin knoll]

anw guys how the domi reversi works though

[torn ferry]

eris being alive isnt really a theory though its pretty plausible

[ashen perch]

as in, he drew multiple fight chapters, like roof piece was looooong as hell

[wet heron]

Takanome Mihawk
Fisheye camera Mihawk
Capricious angles n shii

[unique lagoon]

How do you guys think GV will vanish

[frozen aspen]

idk I think it'd make sense for there tobe a cutaway if we go back to the current timeline and some sort of stalment happens but otherwise we will focus on geting rid of Imi

[unique lagoon]

WB df?

[pulsar path]

Found it

[ashen perch]

this is old old I am assuming, because he contradicts this later lol

[wet heron]

why tf did 8 see 2 pings

[iron oriole]

Thats not him saying 0 suggestions

[wet heron]

[pulsar path]

Where?

[unique lagoon]

A twist would be dragon gets the df that destroys GV hype him up again

[pulsar path]

It's from 2015 and idk why oda would be like now I'll take suggestion

Lol

[ashen perch]

well I guess "criticize my work and suggest changes" is not the same as "suggest ideas" so both can be true

[wet heron]

Lulusia

[torn ferry]

honestly, i cant say i mind the way fights are done currently it feels very akin to how not-as-battle shonen use them

[unique lagoon]

Well no i mean df power like wb

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/thewillofmarco/status/1985260237167947823?s=46

this is a real character wtf💀

The Will of Marco (マルコの意志) (@TheWillOfMarco)

"The One Burger is REAL!!!" 🍔

X · Nov 3, 2025, 8:18 AM

burger man

[torn ferry]

(is it spoilers to mention a series by name as an example)

[unique lagoon]

I'm sure the yami df can suckin a whole island if they want

[iron oriole]

That statement isn't even directly saying to not give him any suggestions at all

Its just "don't spam me with suggestions"

[pulsar path]

If I remember correctly it's no plot suggestions

[wet heron]

and regen

[pulsar path]

Like add supernovas

[iron oriole]

Because he'll be influenced by it etc, same reason he doesn't really look at theories

[wet heron]

Way better than some fishman haki bogus as the counter

[ashen perch]

well it depends, is getting rid of Imu the end of the arc? I dont think it is, I think it merely wraps up the first half and that is where we will cutaway from Elbaf

[unique lagoon]

I had an idea that yami just sucks in dmg heals it but very painful

[wet heron]

That would mean Kuma is a BB upscale

[alpine trench]

https://fixvx.com/thewillofmarco/status/1985236372790395314?s=46

The Will of Marco (マルコの意志) (@TheWillOfMarco)

One Piece Volume 113 Trailer

Full English Script:

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"One day, come and return it to me."

"Looks like we'll be able to meet soon, Luffy."

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[wet heron]

[unique lagoon]

Nb4 it also sucks in haki attack

[ashen perch]

yeah I guess it doesnt directly contradict it, the supernovas weren't suggested by the editor after all, the editor only criticized Sabaody as not being exciting enough and Oda made them as his answer to him

[unique lagoon]

Now that be something

Df that counters haki?

[wet heron]

Whatever imu has got

[iron oriole]

System breaking

[wet heron]

For the most part atleast

[unique lagoon]

About that can demons use haki properly

Like the honing part

[stone terrace]

Xebec is using conquerors haki

[iron oriole]

Imu Conq blasts so yeah

[unique lagoon]

Sure but gaban said there's more

Imus demon minions

[rapid ridge]

Hello chatters

Quite the eventful chapter

Wasn't it

[sly belfry]

was it

[stone terrace]

Mid

[iron oriole]

Is that a Garling pfp

[stone terrace]

The original garling

[iron oriole]

Bro looks like the dad from The Wild Thornberry's

https://tenor.com/view/animation-cartoons-toons-nickelodeon-nicktoons-gif-14827899

[hot cairn]

it was pretty good

God Valley almost over

[pulsar path]

Damn garling true form

[hot cairn]

we can finally move on to Elbaph

[stone terrace]

Rocks is such a pirate that he stole a flashback

[iron oriole]

Thats what you think

[ashen perch]

we still got 3 chapters of GV atleast

[rapid ridge]

God valley, yes

[ashen perch]

ends with 1167

[rapid ridge]

But let's not forget it's loki's flashback

[tulip olive]

Rocks is also the goat

[shell scroll]

Might be all well learn until black beard shares ig

[rapid ridge]

!!!

[tulip olive]

No slander exist of him

[rich hornet]

3 chapters on a FB fight? Forget about it

[rapid ridge]

Hi cutie

[ashen perch]

hiii

[rapid ridge]

You here often?

[ashen perch]

yeah

[ashen perch]

not necessarily

[unique lagoon]

Heh oda will drop a void century flashback

[ashen perch]

3 chapters to wrap up the entire incident itself

[pulsar path]

How many chapters is god valley so far?

[ashen perch]

the fight, Xebec's death, the erasure of GV, everyone's escape, all that will be 3 chapters

[iron oriole]

We officially got there in 1160

[unique lagoon]

We will still get a rocks flashback before invading Mary geoise

It's real joyboy hid something under GV

[rich hornet]

I want it to be 2, but my brain also tells me 3

[pulsar path]

I mean rocks flashback really

[ashen perch]

we could get a Rocks flashback in here, that would be nice

[pulsar path]

This just reminds me of Godzilla and the shika being inside the Mt

[ashen perch]

something brief, like Kaido's, I wouldnt mind that

[rapid ridge]

Akshuallee

It's not rocks' flashback

But loki's

[pulsar path]

Yeah but rocks is literally the focal point lmao

[ashen perch]

2 feels a little quick to me, but we will see I guess

[iron oriole]

Like the start of the flashback entirely? 1152 if so

Well like halfway through 1152

[pulsar path]

So as of right now if they adapt this like they say I to anime will be leaving off in the middle of God valley with a 3 month hiatus

[rapid ridge]

Remember all those "not my kaido's flashback" people?

I wonder where they went

[unique lagoon]

There was theories floating around about rocks finding laughtale before Roger

[urban lodge]

Sickening

[rapid ridge]

Maybe he just always knew

[pulsar path]

It's interesting rocks didn't seem to want any of the weapons

[rapid ridge]

And didn't need to go there

[urban lodge]

Like genuinely story ruining

[unique lagoon]

U telling me rocks found a shortcut to all void knowledge

[final trench]

I mean he’s in the clan

[pulsar path]

I'm pretty sure daveys just passed that shit down

[urban lodge]

He probably knew because the Davy clan kept historical records

[final trench]

Thats already enough

[iron oriole]

Rocks probably has like a logbook or something from Davy D Jones

[pulsar path]

I mean isn't BB if he was in real life said to be an archeologist

[final trench]

Yea

And his favorite hobby is studying history

[pulsar path]

Yeah iris is totally related to Robins mom

[unique lagoon]

His hobby I think

[pulsar path]

Even if they just buddy's

[final trench]

Both dodged a genocide
Very knowledgeable

Could be

[unique lagoon]

Bb and Robin are cousins

[pulsar path]

I'm down for it

[final trench]

Plus they both have art with them using their crews as chess pieces

[pulsar path]

By Davey or Nico blood

[prisma yacht]

Umm

[pulsar path]

I think Eris looks like Robin and her momma tbh

The eye lashes

[unique lagoon]

Is iris even Davy blood ain't she adopted

[pulsar path]

Lol not she's married in

[hot cairn]

Oda could do it in 2 but 3 seems more likely

[unique lagoon]

Step blood

[prisma yacht]

She did say something like "thanks for accepting me"

[final trench]

Yea she frm somewhere else, probably luluasia

[hot cairn]

this flashback might get to 20 chapters

[final trench]

Yea

[iron oriole]

Lulusia would make sense to be her hometown

Probably where she met Rocks too

[unique lagoon]

Did it beat oden fb yet

[iron oriole]

No

[urban lodge]

Almost

[unique lagoon]

Still da goat then

[final trench]

Because we gotta see
How herald moves post rocks death

The fight in the castle

Lokis voyage + shanks fight

[iron oriole]

We got like 5 chapters to beat Oden fb

[pulsar path]

Jesus can you imagine. The anime stopping right when they starts to fight on God valley?

[final trench]

Probably will