also-manga

[celest mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/percival-manglano-perci-gif-10338738

[glass plume]

why do people think that Sabo is that much weaker

[pulsar path]

I'm not even sure how strong the goresei are they can't seem to really do anything right lol

[glass plume]

i don't get it

[woven heron]

if not Emeth i dont see Luffy escape it

[unique lagoon]

if proxy imu/saturn can just transform rocks* straight up no magic circle
what if sabo also got infected by another different spell
the real imu did stab him

[woven heron]

rofl

[ashen perch]

people are really not ready for Sabo and Dragon and the revos in general

[glass plume]

they're underestimating and downplaying them constantly, it's so tiresome

[celest mauve]

sabo is strong but his lil bro dismantles him rn

dragon vs luffy is a closer fight

[ashen perch]

lmao

[proud pivot]

no tbh dragon dismantles luffy rn

[stone terrace]

Luffy got away from the gorosei because of JOYBOY

[ashen perch]

okay well we can come back to this in a hundred chapters

[celest mauve]

"lmao" and it's an extremely tame take

[stone terrace]

in fact

Luffy lost by losing gear 5 lol

[pulsar path]

People forgetting how strong sabos haki is

[woven heron]

in fact why you ppl talk about Dragon power when you dont know sht about his power

[celest mauve]

there's like no basis to this with the total lack of dragon feats

[unique lagoon]

ok what if dragon gets left behind
GV starts getting destroyed/going to vanish
then he finds his DF and use it to escape

would oda reveal dragon DF in GV?

[ashen perch]

Dragon is top 2, Luffy is getting demolished

[proud pivot]

hes top 2 alive and luffy is like 8-9

[glass plume]

i think he'll find it soon, yeah

[woven heron]

Dragon is top 2 this guy

[ashen perch]

you guys are not ready for Dragon

[proud pivot]

i am not in this list

[stone terrace]

We've been ready for 500 chapters

[pulsar path]

Dragon past flash back one day

[celest mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-blink-steve-harvey-confused-not-sure-gif-15495627

[woven heron]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-smile-luffy-laugh-luffy-laughter-luffy-luffy-gear-5-white-gif-9836138154430189636

[ashen perch]

true yea

[unique lagoon]

because its one of the most awaited character power ye?
is it underwhelming showing dragons DF in this flashback or in current time?

[glass plume]

i think we'll see him eating the fruit, but not the powers it grants

[unique lagoon]

yeah that works

i think

[ashen perch]

the reality will be clear soon enough
Dragon - Yonko+
Sabo - Yonko
Commanders - near Admiral level

Revo haters will see....

[celest mauve]

where does this rev army and sabo in particular glaze come from, wtf?

[woven heron]

man i think bean would die laughing reading this

[celest mauve]

sabo yonko level is just ???

[woven heron]

[ashen perch]

it is just true

[pulsar path]

Have you not seen morley take on admirals

[celest mauve]

and the commanders being admiral level, I don't even like those mfs but please respect them

[unique lagoon]

i think most of it is from them invading mary geoise

[woven heron]

WB can solo whole revos and bor just told he is yonko plus

[pulsar path]

And the revs attack holy land

[stone terrace]

Sabo will get powercrept but the reverie version was not it

[celest mauve]

and what exactly did she achieve

[ashen perch]

the commanders already clashed well enough against the admirals, Karasu straight up I think can take one

[pulsar path]

Bro just move goal post im done

[sleek viper]

Gonna be just another Imu hypetool like Rocks was

[woven heron]

so Karasu didnt need Fuji there

[unique lagoon]

the vice captains of revos are still unknown
who knows what those guys can do

[woven heron]

what you try to say

against Greenbull

[celest mauve]

this isn't moving the goal posts, I want your take on what morley achieved by taking on ryokugyu lol

[woven heron]

litteraly Fuji saved them

[pulsar path]

She did better than. Like all of wano lmao

[ashen perch]

they werent trying to win lol

[celest mauve]

because it's even explicitly said that the admirals can't go all out in the holy land and they were still unfazed

[pulsar path]

Damn never seen some glaze green bull

[ashen perch]

Lindbergh was focused on saving the slaves, Karasu and Morley stalled two admirals in 1v1s while giving Sabo the window to get away and find Kuma and save him

[unique lagoon]

the funny part is why did GB needed to transform into a big ass tree
when his human form can easy choke one of the revos

less destruction

[stone terrace]

The tree form is the most lame way to use his power

So oda is hopefully holding back

[pulsar path]

Maybe he's just lame anyways

[urban lodge]

That fruit has so much potential

[ashen perch]

as the guy who is going to lose to Sabo said, "Stop making excuses for the admirals"

[stiff grove]

blackbeard gotta fufill that promise fam

[urban lodge]

And both times we've seen it used he used it the same way

[unique lagoon]

then theres also fuji distracting GB

now thats pretty big

[stone terrace]

Lost kuma btw

[ashen perch]

yea I mean did you see him make an excuse

[stone terrace]

Akainu left the desk and learned it aint easy

[ashen perch]

Kuma just that good

[ornate tartan]

https://x.com/kingofsouls9/status/1983962170967949791?s=46

SolusDaKing (@KingOfSouls9)

If OP twitter would pick up a book occasionally we wouldn't have tweets like this.

Randolph the rabbit from WCI is obviously based off of the white rabbit from Alice in Wonderland, who is famously late for a very important date.

The rabbit watch meme is also based on that.

X · Oct 30, 2025, 6:20 PM

[ashen perch]

the teleportation is like faster than light or something iirc, not even Domi Rocks could make it in time this chapter

[stiff grove]

my goat kuma saves the day

[stone terrace]

What if the request came from someone with twitter tho

Its very coincidental timing

[ashen perch]

the chapter was likely completed a week before the meme took off

[thick whale]

Y’all think Dragon knows Shanks is the baby he saved?

[ashen perch]

because I swear its only been like 2 weeks? the chapter was surely completed before it

[gaunt shale]

Does rocks story upscale Blackbeard most likely to being in the very end of op?

[celest mauve]

I thought I was going insane when I saw all those tweets about oda supposedly referencing that meme, like did people forget both randolph in WCI and alice in wonderland as his inspiration?

randolph isn't really memorable tbf, but alice in wonderland at least ffs

[stiff grove]

moretime

[ashen perch]

Randolph was memorable as a weekly reader

the theories that he had Mihawk's soul

would have been so funny

[stone terrace]

Hes only memorable as proof that chopper has no soul

[pulsar path]

Bobbins is my favorite weekly character

Theory's wee all over

[urban lodge]

Chopper gained a soul through his fruit because only humans have souls

What did Oda mean by this

[glass plume]

thoughts on the cover page?

Perona thinking about Mihawk, lol

[ashen perch]

well I think he does have a soul but having a human's soul gave him human characteristics lol

randolph I mean

[thick whale]

I don't think he knows yet, but he'll put two and two together once he gets a good look at Garling's face

[ashen perch]

I feel like he doesnt, and maybe he finds out in the future, as in, a future arc.

[glass plume]

he definitely knows

i mean, come on

how would he not know

[stone terrace]

Its a baby

[ashen perch]

eh, theres a lot of red haired babies

and he thought it died when he crashed

[stone terrace]

You cant tell what theyll look like as an adult

[thick whale]

it's not like shanks is the only red haired person on the planet

[thin quest]

part of why Shanks maybe went to Windmill Village in the first place was to maybe check on Luffy on Dragon's behalf

[glass plume]

i feel like he knows

[pulsar path]

I feel like dragon could add the shit up if he seen Roger with a red head kid

Also they call shanks child of destiny but like he's not child any more 🤔

[thick whale]

When he talks to Rayleigh about Luffy, he makes it seem like he met this kid who sounds exactly like Roger by chance

If he were working with Dragon, I don't think he'd hide that from Rayleigh and Gaban.

[thin quest]

I think he might

[pulsar path]

Did shanks know luffy was Garps grandson?

[stone terrace]

Makino probably told him

[thin quest]

yeah I think Shanks is pretty keenly aware who Luffy is right away

[thick whale]

Dragon's full name isn't public knowledge until Marineford

people just know him as Dragon

[pulsar path]

It's Sakazuki who revealed it right? Or sengoku?

[bold sonnet]

Sengoku

[stone terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/freaking-snitches-kevin-hart-cold-as-balls-tattletales-damn-snitches-gif-18477256

[pulsar path]

Dude than doesn't capture law whata hypocrite

[bold sonnet]

Sengoku is HIM when it comes to being a fraud

[cold steppe]

Sengoku outed both luffy and ace

[pulsar path]

Than saved law bum ass

[stone terrace]

Sengoku would happily take both their heads but garp is still his friend

[bold sonnet]

He was honouring Rosinate

[stone terrace]

Shit is crazy to me 😭

[pulsar path]

What about honoring Garp

[bold sonnet]

Law is after all his adopted grandson, sort of

[bold sonnet]

Fuck Garp - Sengoku, probably

[pulsar path]

Yeah should let sengoku fight shiki by him self and get totaled

[bold sonnet]

Besides marines in w7 already heard Dragon's name

It was only a matter of time

[pulsar path]

Na garps crew different

They get the assignment

[bold sonnet]

[pulsar path]

In hope that Garps crew is the last full good group of Marines 🤣 so you think dragon taking on youths after this was his correction for not being directly involved with dragon during his time as a Marine? Line maybe if trained dragon personally or something

[dense haven]

rocks agenda is FINISHED

[pulsar path]

I also wonder if Garp thinks dragons dead for a bit because he finds out his son was on gods valley but was not reported to be found after

What was the agenda

[hard fulcrum]

Maybe but they have to get in contact at some point given that Luffy ends up in Garp's 'care'.

[pulsar path]

Right but that's like 20 years later

[stone terrace]

You switched up

SpiceB

[urban lodge]

I thought Sb would switch up because Rocks cried

[pulsar path]

Bellamy ass Xebec

[hard fulcrum]

Yeah, though it does show an immense amount of trust. Or, I suppose, disregard for his own child. I don't think Dragon is quite that callous though, especially after all he did to try and save Shanks and Shamrock.

The contrast between Kuma and Dragon is interesting. Kuma gave up everything to save Bonney in the end. Dragon gave up fatherhood in order to try and save everything. Neither are wrong but it's terrible they had to make the sacrifices they did.

[dense haven]

kuma mogs on dragon in every category

[pseudo gulch]

It's been a great ride

[pulsar path]

Yeah I don't think dragon and garp are Ina as bad terms as people think I mean they talked about Luffy and dragon running into him. In just saying dragons probably going to be missing and Garp will find out he was on God valley

The chance of Rocks not being killed here and being keeped as Imu pet?

[hard fulcrum]

Some people are speculating Rocks is the Flame-Marked Man. So, not impossible.

[pulsar path]

He could be guarding Imu but I can't see him still being Xebec and doing it

[dense haven]

eris is the man marked by flames

[pulsar path]

Let's goo!

I'm still hesitant if she didn't get hit before Kuma saved them 😭

[hard fulcrum]

If the novels remain canon/canon-ish, then she's alive. Some are guessing she's Loki's phone friend Mosa.

[dense haven]

crazy that neither eris or ida died in this flashback

[pulsar path]

Wait why?

[dense haven]

biggest plot twist

[hard fulcrum]

Ace meets BB's mother in his novel.

[dense haven]

wtf

[pulsar path]

What novel?

[urban lodge]

Eris depends if she's evil or not

If she's evil she's allowed to live

Ida is still 100% dead

[pulsar path]

Usopp could be xebecs son pre time skip before his nose got all round

[hard fulcrum]

Ace's light novel.

And Oda does have old, old concepts for an elderly Eris and two sisters. That may have changed though.

[pulsar path]

I don't think so ace novels are about pre-whitebeard days

There was a concept that ace would meet BB mom in one but didn't end up being the plot

[dense haven]

before he became a teacher

[somber rivet]

We know Eris is alive right now

[pulsar path]

Idk she could have gotten hit on the teleport

[somber rivet]

Or at least she does not died in God Valley

[dense haven]

kuma sent her to the moon

[hard fulcrum]

If she got hit, Kuma would have been toast since he poofs last.

[somber rivet]

And Blackbeard was send flying with his dead mother?

Brutal

[pulsar path]

I mean it could have even been shrapnel from the canons

[pulsar path]

All it takes is a knife sized piece of metal to fly into her

[dense haven]

she couldve died from a broken heart

[pulsar path]

Possibly In Onepiece

Love sickness lol

It killed tricoma and Roger lmao

[glass plume]

?

[somber rivet]

Oh, like Dobby in Harry Potter

[pulsar path]

Yeah I was straight up trying to think what series did the same thing 🤣

[pulsar path]

If not this bb could just be hiding her or, she dies of sickness

[somber rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/bellatrix-dobby-goodbye-cry-gif-10742580109403861760

[pulsar path]

But like damn usopp and bb having like parallel stories

[somber rivet]

Maybe she is the master mind behind all Blackbeard plans and shenanigans

[pulsar path]

It's possible but she didn't seem this evil lmao

[dense haven]

that would be hype af

[urban lodge]

It would be kinda dumb but also really funny, I'm not against it

[pulsar path]

BB vs weevil plus mom fights

[glass plume]

ehrm spoilers

[sly belfry]

Saw a comment that said gods knights are regenerating vice admirals

Pretty cool

[pseudo gulch]

The whole regen thing needs to go

[rare ivy]

BB might have VOAT

[pulsar path]

Possibly but in hope that stays almost exclusive to Luffy

Wait he doesn't cus wouldn't he not need pudding

[rare ivy]

Same here

[pseudo gulch]

Now that we're approaching the end of the God Valley part of the flashback and Rocks' life, do y'all think he had the dark dark fruit? Or any fruit at all?

[pulsar path]

No fruit

[rare ivy]

Luffy has it but he still needs Robin

[pulsar path]

I think that's why he didn't feel pain

[urban lodge]

Boring hakiman until the end

[pseudo gulch]

Who are the living characters with voat that we know of? Just Luffy and Momo?

[hard fulcrum]

He may need her for other reasons, like memory stuff. But I do think the Poneglyph theory is most likely. It might have been why he kept Moria alive too.

[pulsar path]

I mean robin isn't there for the ponyglyphs she's there to chill

[pseudo gulch]

Maybe Garp since he also heard Rocks begging them to kill him

[hard fulcrum]

Possibly Garp.

[pulsar path]

And would Luffy even listen to the voice of all things he would want to do the adventure him self

[pseudo gulch]

Do we count Zunesha too?

[rare ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/fishman-island-one-piece-fishman-island-remaster-remake-noah-gif-16357764706448121730

[pulsar path]

Garp and Roger heard very different things

Roger looked like someone yelled in his ear

[pseudo gulch]

His one named attack is named after the place where all the demons of hell reunite to discuss stuff

That's fire

Pun intended

[rare ivy]

Xebec spoke their language in the end

[hard fulcrum]

That could be Roger's first experience with VOAT. He seems more surprised than Garp about what he's hearing.

[rare ivy]

He is overacting. Roger always acts like he is the MC

[pulsar path]

Na that's not what's happening

[rose rune]

Stuck

[pseudo gulch]

He was tbf

[pseudo gulch]

Don't you dare move a single muscle fiber

[pulsar path]

Luckyyy!

[pseudo gulch]

The beast is resting and it shall not be disturbed

[rose rune]

Help

[vestal heath]

Good morning

[pulsar path]

It's over lol

[olive sigil]

Happy Halloween #also-manga (specially the carrot bros)

[rose rune]

My mask is still drying

[pseudo gulch]

Freaky ass mask

https://tenor.com/view/yummy-tongue-flight-flight-reacts-excited-gif-17057509

[pulsar path]

Oh wow it is Halloween happy Halloween 👻

[olive sigil]

Great mask

[rose rune]

Ty

[olive sigil]

I’ve been reusing the same costume for a few years now

[pseudo gulch]

As the chief in command of the cow piece army why aren't you dressing up as a cow

[olive sigil]

I’ll stop wearing bunny ears when carrot comes back

[pseudo gulch]

Are you telling us milk piece is not real??

[pulsar path]

Illlusia milk piece

[olive sigil]

That’s for normal days. This is Halloween. It’s a day to dress up. Why would I dress as myself for Halloween

[pseudo gulch]

You got me here

I humbly apologize for my mistake

[wraith mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-vegapunk-york-1095-toei-anime-girl-gif-8012256245233007221

morning

[pseudo gulch]

Doing this lmfao

[wraith mantle]

https://x.com/qwaqmeharder/status/1984160200388125171

qwaq | commissions open (@qwaqmeharder)

#onepiece

Fast sketch

X · Oct 31, 2025, 7:27 AM

[pulsar path]

Mera mera looks like the Gomu Gomu in Nika form

[upbeat yarrow]

i think you are in too deep into pattern recognition

[pulsar path]

Yami is similar too

[cyan wraith]

Wb fans when Xebec one shot him : "i didn't see nothin"

[hard fulcrum]

There's some fun symbolism in Luffy as the sun and his brothers as flanking fire.

[urban lodge]

You should wait until we know about his status before claiming it was a one shot

[cyan wraith]

If only you guys share the same sentiment when you said Bm got one shot 😭

[urban lodge]

I never said that about any of them so I'm chilling

[dense haven]

wb is a fraud

[stone terrace]

Wb aint coming back so im fine calling it a one shot

[pseudo gulch]

Rocks oneshot WB? Did I speedread another chapter

[pulsar path]

Right I like it

Also wow people think NamI is related to summers

[urban lodge]

He sent him flying

[rose rune]

People imagine that's what happens when they're not shown

[pulsar path]

Summer NamI? Meh

[hard fulcrum]

They do?!

[pulsar path]

Yeah cus the hair color is the same

[pulsar timber]

Yes rocks one shot whitebeard

Do you want a better explanation for Kagurabachi Johto

I don’t hate the series I just would probably prefer it in anime form

[pulsar path]

Orange ass hair

[rose rune]

Surely this is all the proof we need

[pulsar path]

Yeah it's all but confirmed 🤣

Skip that confirmed

[rare ivy]

Gaban is looking cool

[rose rune]

Killingham is related to otohime considering his blonde mane and sharp teeth

[pulsar path]

People didn't even notice him j feel like but I agree

[pulsar path]

I do think it's weird him and maufey have teeth like that but not way they could be fishmen .....right? 😬

[rose rune]

It's proof enough. Just like the hair

[pulsar path]

Probably not and I was kidding lmao but I wonder if holy knights is kidna where you out your illegitimate kids lmao maybe it all of em but maybe like cus they ant full CD they make em work 😬🤣 if it's true I think that was the plan for bonney

[rose rune]

I need to get to the store, but I'm still stuck under the cat

[pulsar path]

They know and that's exactly why they won't let you leave 🤣 it's like if you were on a lap top

[pseudo gulch]

Yeah I was like "I don't remember seeing WB flying away" lol

[stone tulip]

They always try to make Nami related to a celestial dragon when that never even makes sense cause Nami’s story has nothing to do with celestial dragons directly.

Hell if we are talking about origins it’s more liker she’s related to Birkans than the world nobles imo.

[cold steppe]

Maybe he saved the future wannabes

[stone tulip]

Wouldn’t be surprised if Momo is a hidden member tho just like Vivi was

[stone tulip]

Awww

[pulsar path]

Momo might be what the d clan is based on even the whole moon relation

[broken relic]

Saint Nerona Nami

[pulsar path]

Kozuki clan

[shell scroll]

young roger really does have aces genetics

[pulsar path]

I mean it is weird that majority of females are named after birds or flowers and than you have NamI named after water waves

[cold steppe]

Nami is confirmed from east blue tho

The island where she's found with nojiko is still east blue

[pulsar path]

Oyokot is in e blue?

Ie oyokot (Tokyo) is the island she was from

[cold steppe]

Yes

[hard fulcrum]

I've seen it suggested Nami and Nojiko were survivors of another Human Hunting Contest, one Bell-mere saw, prompting her to leave the Marines.

[pulsar path]

Live action oyokot

[grand flower]

The years add up

Nami will be 21 next year in universe, a multiple of 3 and were one year off from a native hunt

[distant vine]

Elmo take that dumbass stuff off 😭

[stone tulip]

That’s my theory cause how the timeline seems to line up, and honestly considering how Nami has some weather powers i think that’s the reason for it cause I do believe she’s at least half Birkan when looking back at it

Like maybe there were Birkans who lived at Oykot kingdom

[grand flower]

@tall ibex here

Check the chat description

Slow ass nigga

Oh it’s Orion btw

[signal fiber]

Hakiless

[grand flower]

@stone tulip did this chapter change your final villain stance in any way?

[stone tulip]

I mean to be fair not all women follow that pattern so not really

[royal orchid]

good morning

[grand flower]

@tall ibex also #announcements

[signal fiber]

Imu is too much of a whiny scared bitch for final villian

[grand flower]

Since Ik you can’t read

[stone tulip]

Still no and I still believe Luffy is the one who will take Imu down (or at least the final blow), but I do think Blackbeard will do something that would cause harm to Imu in long run that Luffy would take advantage of that in future

Like regardless it’s obvious the Blackbeard is still important to the narrative even if he wasn’t the final villain

[grand flower]

I repeat tjis

[stone tulip]

tjis?

[grand flower]

This

Typo

[stone tulip]

I see

[grand flower]

I got muscular fingers

[shell scroll]

how muscular can you do finger pull ups?

[stone tulip]

But I do think it’s interesting that Joyboy and Jones wanted to be kings and there is implication that Jones betrayed him due to a deal he has with Imu but Imu didn’t fulfill his part hence why there is a promise

[barren token]

Hey what did everyone think of chapter?

[shell scroll]

kuma still the story mkaer

goat

[distant vine]

Imu when Doflamingo, Law, Luffy, Blackbeard and Dragon are all headed up to Mariejois:

https://tenor.com/view/bro-is-finished-cooked-finished-dog-closing-eyes-dog-with-eyes-closed-gif-8933440936102921947

[stone tulip]

And considering how Luffy and Blackbeard mirrors these guys right now, now it started to make sense why Whitebeard said to Blackbeard that he isn’t the one who Roger is waiting for and that makes Blackbeard even more of a tragic character imo.

[white heath]

Is this our first time hearing about Davy Jones?

[distant vine]

No

[shell scroll]

yh

well the fact he "was previous king"

[distant vine]

He's been mentioned before in this flashback. And in Long Ring Long Land

[stone tulip]

Definitely peak but felt pretty bad for Rocks which’s something I never expected I would before reading this flashback

[grand flower]

Like 2

[shell scroll]

i wonder how domi reversi can be countered

[stone tulip]

Imu said he wasn’t the king which suggested there was some type of deal where Jones was supposed to be the king but Imu sabotaged that

[stone tulip]

Gear 5 might play a role to that

[grand flower]

I think it can be done if you feel a strong surge of negative emotions, and a strong surge of positive emotions can reverse it

So G5 or music can influence people

[stone tulip]

If music plays a part then this is Brook upscale

[grand flower]

We’ve seen music sway the soul and change people’s mood. Plus G5’s heartbeat is musical

DRUMS of LIBERATION

[shell scroll]

true i also like that imu specified that davy jones and joboy are 2 different people

[shell scroll]

yeah but i dont see how it comes close to a magic demon book lol

[distant vine]

Brook reversing all the demons >>>>>> Luffy reversing all the demons

[proud pivot]

This is why apoo is S rank support in onepiece

[twin knoll]

who said that joyboy and Davy Jones is the same person

😭

[hard fulcrum]

Getting Law and Doffy to work together seems like an insane reach. BB and Luffy too. These are not 'greater good' people. Dragon has his work cut out for him.

[stone tulip]

But yeah gear 5 definitely plays a role cause the more Luffy laughs the stronger he gets which literally pure opposite of what the fuck Imu is doing right now

[shell scroll]

a lot ive read here thought that

[distant vine]

Nah it wont be together

Theyll all be going up at different times and for different reasons

Just all of them happen to be against Imu

[leaden rivet]

@urban lodge how do you feel about Eris

[stone tulip]

Yeah I can see that, hell film red even touched this concept upon even more and even WCI too.

Plus this does support my theory on why Oda tend to assign the straw hats roles on the ship and how they are going to play a major role in the final arc

[hard fulcrum]

I feel like, with Law and Doffy, they'd fight each other before they got anywhere. Imu would just need to sit and watch.

[stone tulip]

My theory is that the deal was for Jones to betray Joyboy over this

[grand flower]

And Luffy wanted a musician from the beginning, and Shanks taught Luffy the importance of pirates having a joyous musical time

Parties could be so important to pirate culture because of that

The original Joy Boy contended Imu with boisterous joyous music

So now pirates love to party and banquet

[white heath]

So it sounds like the will of D. is the result of a brokem bargain made between Davy Jones and Imu? If I had to guess, the deal was to make Davy Jones king of the pirates, after which Imu betrayed him to take over the world government? Was Davy Jones alive before, during, or after the void century?

[stone tulip]

Luffy’s greatest strength is imagination and the more Luffy laughs the stronger he gets, in fact Luffy’s power is pretty much the same power Imu has but with opposite effects

[grand flower]

Yeah I think Oda should do tjis to avoid rubbing people the wrong way with Luffy being the only counter

[shell scroll]

yeah there has to be some betray plot going on

[grand flower]

It opens the door for anyone to be useful and come clutch

[shell scroll]

ig i just need to see more mastery over this power but abyss and stuff is soo different to df i need to see how itll be worked with

[stone tulip]

Yeah exactly plus how the song Bink’s sake mirrors Luffy’s awakening and perhaps retells the story of Joyboy, but either way it’s so clear that Brook will play a role into the whole thing and perhaps he might recreate the same tune as the drum of liberation.

[urban lodge]

Honestly I don't really feel anything about her

[stone tulip]

Yeah we will eventually see all of that for sure

[urban lodge]

It depends what her fate is I think

[stone tulip]

That’s what I suspect too, plus the whole Lili thing too

[grand flower]

I wonder if alcohol plays a role as well

[urban lodge]

It would be interesting if she's the reason Blackbeard turned out how he is

But she's probably still gonna die

[stone tulip]

Maybe but food would also play a role in final arc too

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-kaido-laughing-one-piece-laugh-drunken-gif-279966703748929703

[stone tulip]

Meaning Sanji upscale

[grand flower]

Yeah we’ve seen food make people uncontrollably happy

Like Gunko

It broke her stoic, cold personality

I think that’s important

[stone tulip]

Like I could go on how straw hats role will play huge part in how the final arc would go, hell even possible what Vivi’s role in all of this too if she’s rejoining

[carmine frigate]

food brings people together

[runic dock]

Sanji upscale

[shell scroll]

oh man i need her to rejoin

[stone tulip]

Yeah it did too especially how WCI ended with Big mom

[grand flower]

Tying the counter to Domi Reversi to joyous emotions allows Oda to incorporate anything that was previously the core of characters’ conflict or themes into the solution

Food, reuniting with lost loved ones, music, rain, whatever

[runic dock]

Holy goda cook

Binks sake is an AoE debuff attack

[grand flower]

Dude we could see Sanji reversing people by feeding them their favorite foods

Like cooking them instantly in the middle of battle

[hard fulcrum]

I'd... actually love that. Yes, hit me with the feels.

[runic dock]

This is how he invents fast food

[stone tulip]

She most likely will especially not only Elbaf began with the newspaper, and even how she was included in the banner and keep in mind that was drawn even before Jinbe showed up in Wano too

[grand flower]

I think it’s coming, if I can think of it I know Goda has

[grand flower]

It can be like frankys version of the Fortnite maneuver

[stone tulip]

Literally that would make all of the straw hats play major part in final arc to counter Imu’s domi reverse, or maybe even during Elbaf too

[runic dock]

lmao

[grand flower]

https://tenor.com/view/franky-fortnite-one-piece-fortnite-franky-victory-royale-one-piece-victory-royale-gif-5438025852796863419

[stone tulip]

Like Usopp most likely going to do something to inspire the giants during this arc

[grand flower]

USOPP TELLS THEM STORIES

OMG

[runic dock]

I do like this idea a lot , it really doesn’t need to be just nika , it could BEGIN with the drums of liberation and extend to those activities you said

[grand flower]

Usopp tells them stories of the SHs adventures

[grand flower]

And that’s Joy Boy’s true greatest power. Bringing out the joy in others and helping them realize that THEY have the power to bring it out themselves as well

[stone tulip]

Or better yet, making his lies into reality especially through Killingham’s ability and Usopp once again proving himself to be a brave warrior

[grand flower]

That would be great

[runic dock]

Roger laughed

[hard fulcrum]

It's been, what, 14-15 years and I'm still not over Ace and how that impacted Luffy. Oda playing his greatest hits would be so cruel and so good.

[shell scroll]

yeah i wonder how shell come back

[stone tulip]

Probably in a similar way Jinbe does

[grand flower]

I’m thinking usopp tells them stories of their adventures and it makes them laugh so much and touches their hearts so much, it undoes thr Reversi

This time, usopp is telling the TRUTH

[urban lodge]

Zoro is gonna fight Killingham and Usopp will keep giving him infinite fear fuel so he needs to conquer his fears so that Zoro can win

[runic dock]

Lmao

[grand flower]

I think it can start with Usopp saying something like “Masters, we went through so much to get here…just for this to happen to you! We survived…”

And he starts recounting the stories and it changes them back

[stone tulip]

I do think Usopp will play a role to inspire other giants to help Zoro out by facing their own fears

[grand flower]

The others catch on from that

Intense joy breaks the bind

[runic dock]

https://tenor.com/view/il-riait-gif-21336186

[stone tulip]

And I do think Vivi would also play a part during Elbaf if she is here too, like having her own voice reaching out to everyone and motivate them to fight together

[shell scroll]

it would be crazy if its not reversible and one of the sh dies cuz of it

[runic dock]

That won’t happen

[ionic palm]

it’ll def be reversible :p

just dont know how yet

[runic dock]

No sh is gonna die

[stone tulip]

I doubt it’s permanent and there is something to reverse it especially if it based on a real life game

[stone tulip]

Yeah I doubt that would happen, not even Usopp

Btw @grand flower you didn’t answer my question yet yesterday

[wide star]

she kinda has to do something eventually cause these 4 are the most important 4 in the final saga to Imu ..

[stone tulip]

Yeah clearly she is something special and I believe we will see what it is on Elbaf

[wide star]

that’s the Mt.Rushmore of the Final War lol

[ionic palm]

While we’re at it, still curious how Gunko will be handled considering we finally got a piece of Brook’s pre-piracy past by having a past with her :v

[shell scroll]

i think she would have been comign to egg head and cuz of knowing that luffy had vp hostage and the broadcast she could have followed over

[grand flower]

I may not have seen it, what’s up?

[stone tulip]

Like there is a reason why the arc began with Arabasta call backs and the whole newspaper thing especially when recalling other instances that happened when Luffy never read the message yet he still meets the sender anyways

[stone tulip]

I think after the broadcast and Morgans mocking her over how she has nowhere else to go definitely would cause her to go for the straw hats

[grand flower]

I can see it being usopp

[shell scroll]

its brook

[stone tulip]

@grand flower

[shell scroll]

yeah gonna be goood

[hard fulcrum]

I think Morgans, if he knows where it is, would wanna go to Lodestar because all the 'big players' have to end up there and that's a great way to get a few stories.

[ionic palm]

time for Nefertari Vivi to be a new face for a bounty poster then

[wide star]

if Davy Jones was the king of ancient kingdom and that made him king of the world .. i wonder if it more likely that he created DFs or Ancient Weapons

maybe Pluton was his personal ship ?

[stone tulip]

Not so sure about that but I think Vivi would instead find a way to get out of the ship somehow to got to Elbaf especially she knows Dorry and Brogey are involved

[stone tulip]

I don’t think he was the king but instead was promised to be one yet that promise was broken

[shell scroll]

i want her to have the best re entry to the crew

[stone tulip]

She already has missing poster so lol

That’s like currently the closest thing to a wanted bounty

[hard fulcrum]

She'd want to but I'm not sure she'll make it to Elbaf before the main thrust of the arc's narrative is done. Reuniting with Vivi feels like it needs a little space, like how Robin and Saul got their moment before everything started kicking off.

[fallen meteor]

Morning

[tough igloo]

I think ancient weapons, i think DFs came before davy joyboy and imu … it’s possible Pluton was in his possession and that’s the “ The Flying Dutchman” .. we did see a King on a ship in the elbaf mural .. maybe that Davy Jones & Pluton

[dapper tree]

That's me

[shell scroll]

what about the factory

[dapper tree]

That's my shoe factory

[shell scroll]

u got big feet

[tough igloo]

could be something that’s needed to power up pluton but it’s just depicted in a weird way here cause it’s a kids drawing

[dapper tree]

I got a lotta feet

[shell scroll]

looks like a labor heavy factory

[dapper tree]

Lotta shoes to make

Lots of labor needed

[tough igloo]

maybe it’s people carrying the mother flame and that’s needed for Pluton similar to how it’s needed for Mariejois weapon

[stone tulip]

The thing is that the arc began with Arabasta call backs and Vivi’s message to straw hats and we know Luffy had a gag where he never received the news but still meets the sender so it’s possible Vivi might show up in near end in similar way to Jinbe had during Wano and plays a role in turning the ties in straw hats favor somehow, sure it is possible it might saved for next arc but since it happened in beginning of the arc then I expect the pay off to happen during this

[dapper tree]

Granted it can also be a spirit bomb factory but with haki instead

"Everyone lend me your haki"

[stone tulip]

That one billion beri Nami gag is going to pay off lmao

[dapper tree]

"This is base imu we're up against"

[ornate tartan]

Vivi- voice of all things
maybe paw fruit (doubt it)

[dapper tree]

-Dragon 2030

[shell scroll]

idk about paw fruit kuma still has it even if hes not in the right mind

[hard fulcrum]

Fair. I could see a 'post-Elbaph' reunion. However, Oda's not above making us wait, especially post-timeskip. Egghead had a lot of stuff going on at the side that wasn't resolved. Like where Bepo took Law.

[restive wedge]

KUMA THE GOOOOAAAAATTTTTTTT THE GOOOAAATTTT

[urban lodge]

Can't wait for Oda to make Davy Jones the goodest kindest boy to have ever lived

[tough igloo]

yeah after these last two flashbacks , Kuma has to survive .. he’s literally the HERO of One Piece overall

saved joyboy & davy jones

[shell scroll]

hes litearlly the story maker man

goated guy

no one piece without him

[ornate tartan]

chill that’s jumping the gun😂

[runic dock]

Is it possible Davy jones is hiding in the darkness fruit , “Davy jones locker”?

[ionic palm]

time to upgrade then :p

[stone tulip]

You know Vivi might actually have VOAT with the way she understood Karoo

[stone tulip]

Who knows but either way I wouldn’t rule out her being on Elbaf just yet

[stone tulip]

Yeah I don’t want Kuma to die anymore

[hard fulcrum]

I do, if it means he gets to rest and there's no way of bringing him back. If he can be brought back, he and Bonney deserve the happiest life possible.

[rose rune]

adding a nose feels wrong

[stone terrace]

[ionic palm]

just give Vivi any devil fruit if no Paw Paw :p

would at least make her be capable of proper self-defense

[tranquil blade]

These chapters just keep getting crazier

[stone tulip]

There is implication that he can come back which I am hoping that’s the case

[tranquil blade]

Never once did I expect to see Kaido, Big Mom and Whitebeard all sent flying by the same guy in the same chapter

[hard fulcrum]

I think we're all hoping but Oda is not above ripping out people's hearts. Repeatedly.

[stone tulip]

Either that or just upgrade the peacock slashers, like Wapol is right there with her right now!

Although I do think she might have the same powers as Lili does with poneglyph scattering if it isn’t a devil fruit related thing.

[stone tulip]

Makes me excited for Garp and Roger vs Xebec now

[tranquil blade]

Interesting Imu did in fact want the giants to become soft so the takeover would be easier, seems like he's been planning this for decades at least

[stone tulip]

That’s true but he also had major pay off of moments we had been waiting for long time

[tranquil blade]

Idk how they're supposed to win tbh

[stone tulip]

Which is funnier how Harald ended up sabotaging Imu at the end

[stone tulip]

We may find out next chapter how or if they did win

[tranquil blade]

I still dont really know what Sommers meant by that

but somehow Harald does screw the plan up for them

[ashen perch]

we're going to see why Kaido thought Roger transcended all with his haki...

[hard fulcrum]

I think there's might be a moment where Garp and Roger align (with aligned wills and trust in each other's strength) on 'either side' of Rocks. Essentially reversing the Reversi. It'll be just enough for Rocks to allow them to get a fatal attack in.

[tranquil blade]

Well it's not just Roger but even with Garp this seems hard to believe

[ashen perch]

worth noting that he's the one who was specifically concerned about their attacks not working at the start of the chapter, he is figuring something out

[tranquil blade]

If Whitebeard could hardly stall Xebec...

[vestal heath]

happy halloween yall

[ashen perch]

I think Roger and Garp are closer to their primes than WB was here tbh, so it will work out

happy halloween

[tranquil blade]

This version of Xebec has definitely gotta be the strongest fighter we've ever seen

[ashen perch]

and BM and Kaido are supposed to be nothing like their present selves so them losing isnt really a surprise

[stone tulip]

Whatever it was it definitely led to Harald’s death

[stone tulip]

Just like in real life game!

[ashen perch]

though I will say, while I expect Roger and Garp to handle Xebec

it might come down to Garling sneaking him lol

[stone tulip]

Happy Halloween

[tough igloo]

either Garling sneaking or Harald surprising everybody and popping back up lol

[ashen perch]

I think the guy is still lurking for sure, and he has yet to distinguish himself, unless he is just supposed to be the champion of killing slaves

but yea, I am feeling one more twist coming here, its not gonna be as straightforward as Roger and Garp just beating Rocks

[tranquil blade]

Well idk why he would now if he can tell Xebec is under Imu's influence

I guess Imu never really specified on who not to kill

[urban lodge]

Lmao Garling would become the most hated character if that happened

[hard fulcrum]

Essentially. We see the Reversi working like that as it spreads in Elbaf's present. Chapter 1150, when three guys get pinned between Reversi'd Dorry and Broggy.

[ashen perch]

Garling might just feel like taking his revenge, or maybe Imu starts to lose control

and this is how he ends up impressing Imu

[tough igloo]

maybe it might be Harald coming and being the one to finally put him down but also allowing all the pirates to escape

[stone tulip]

I mean he’s already that hated by the fandom

[tough igloo]

that’s still charloss & spandam lol

orochi as well lol

[ashen perch]

it could be Harald too I guess

but Garling feels more likely to me, we'll see I guess

[hard fulcrum]

Garling is getting up there given the Shakky kidnapping, murder of his baby mama, organising the God Valley Human Hunting Game. etc.

But Charloss is just... so hateable. Like, he's so pathetic.

[tough igloo]

yeah i could see garling too i just have a hard time seeing him basically go against what Imu is doing .. feel like they all too scared of imu to do something like that

[tranquil blade]

I mean if Harald does finish off Xebec, it could be a good way to get him into the circle of the WG

[tough igloo]

unless rocks somehow stops following imu orders

then i could see garling sneaking in

[ashen perch]

it could be in a moment where Rocks is fighting against Imu's control, giving Garling the window to nail him cleanly while also giving him legitimate reason to intervene

[ashen perch]

yeah this also works

[urban lodge]

Harald destroying God Valley would be cool

[tranquil blade]

I think both work, but Harald killing him makes the already tragic end for Xebec even more tragic when it's his only true friend killing him

[dense haven]

where are they hiding harold

[obtuse imp]

We’re gonna need an explanation as to why Imu waited so long to go after the Giants if he already decided the conversion plan in God Valley

[ashen perch]

he could just sail back, he wasnt too far away iirc

[obtuse imp]

Especially after Harald dies

[ashen perch]

well I dont think he wanted to convert them yet lol, just get them to join up normally

[rose rune]

they are pretending he's a legitimate businessperson in some town closeby

[obtuse imp]

I guess through the normal channels but they’re such an important asset that it seems dumb to wait so long

[tranquil blade]

Even if it was Harald that was the issue, idk why it would be so hard to just go and take over Elbaph right after Harald dies, it's not like they could do anything to him

[obtuse imp]

What the Knights are doing in present day could’ve been done years ago is my point

[dense haven]

anyway people are wanking harold way too much because nobody else in the island can match rocks

[urban lodge]

Harald is him

[dense haven]

no

[tranquil blade]

I mean Rocks is probably stronger than anyone in his crew but this is not normal Rocks

[obtuse imp]

Any Rocks upscale is a Harald upscale which is a Mr.3 upscale

[dense haven]

imu upscale

[ashen perch]

I guess it just comes down to Imu not being in a rush till his house was quite literally on fire

[obtuse imp]

Reactionary ass king of the world lol

Someone has to teach Imu to be proactive

[ashen perch]

he was expecting the world to just one day get destroyed without any interference, Gunko basically mentioned that

[hard fulcrum]

Very much so. The systems of control worked for so long, Imu got a little complacent. Then had a temper tantrum or two.

[ashen perch]

yeah lol

[obtuse imp]

Makes me think about the most proactive characters in OP

I think Shanks takes that easily

[dense haven]

anyway eris is mosa

[ashen perch]

still Shirahoshi

[hard fulcrum]

Crocodile and Doffy have to be up there for consistently working on their plans. Especially Doffy.

[ashen perch]

Eris lives now but she could just die in BB's flashback lol, remember that he was an orphan with nowhere to go when he joined WB

well I suppose he could be a lying little baby

[obtuse imp]

Doffy is a good one

[ashen perch]

and he could have just abandoned Eris, but idk

[dense haven]

they got sent to different places

eris is alive

[tranquil blade]

Eris told him to join Whitebeard or something

Could be any excuse really if she's still alive

[ashen perch]

Eris seems chill to me

[dense haven]

what if kumas powers bugged and instead of teleporting them separately he joined their souls together and that's how he's 2 persons in one

[ashen perch]

I mean have you looked at her? thats the face of a woman who has never done anything wrong

and it is because she has the face of another woman who has never done anything wrong

[tranquil blade]

Is this because she looks like Robin

[ashen perch]

yes

[tranquil blade]

Okay

[ashen perch]

its true though

[obtuse imp]

Eris is the fourth ancient weapon

[dense haven]

the timeline doesn't match with olivia right

[obtuse imp]

She’s alive

[ashen perch]

she can be Olvia's sister

[dense haven]

not the same

oda missed an opportunity

[ashen perch]

Olvia would be like 17, so older sister basically

[tranquil blade]

Olivia would have to be a lot older for it to be her

[dense haven]

wait eris could be 17 technically speaking

[ashen perch]

I dont think Oda would do that agegap but um

never know

[tranquil blade]

Dont say that spice

[ashen perch]

I wouldnt want BB and Robin to be half siblings though, so this is fine

[dense haven]

I wouldn't put it past oda

[ashen perch]

Olvia as the younger sister of Eris works

[rich hornet]

Eris strikes me as insane

[ashen perch]

you strike me as insane

what has she done smh

[tranquil blade]

I could see Eris theoretically killing someone

[ashen perch]

she looks normal, she seems normal

well everyone has killed a guy or two

in One Piece

[grand flower]

Eris used to be a pirate

[ashen perch]

not yknow

[hard fulcrum]

How? She strikes me as devoted, though I can see how an event like this might radicalise her thinking in certain ways. Like we've seen elsewhere (what Flavence did to Law). Trauma is brutal.

[tranquil blade]

You cannot be a normal woman and be the lover of Xebec

That

[grand flower]

She implies she was a bad one

[tranquil blade]

That's just not a possibility

[ocean sigil]

So what are the new theories, tell me now

What happened to Eris

Where did Kuma send her

[rare ivy]

Battle of Bunnies

[dense haven]

eris is either olivia or mosa

maybe both

[rich hornet]

She takes the Davy stuff extremely seriously. Like she’s ride or die 110%, it’s not a bad kind of insane, but it isn’t normal. Exhibit A is jumping straight to killing herself and Teech if things looked bad

[hot cairn]

guys I have a question

[ocean sigil]

Would that even work? Isn't Olivia to young to be Eris?

[hot cairn]

do you guys think that One Piece moving foward is going to look a lot like another series?

starts with N

[tranquil blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-rage-meme-ishowspeed-rage-quit-meme-ishowspeed-emem-ishowspeed-meme-ishowspeed-fortnite-rage-meme-gif-3902633095939731175

[ocean sigil]

Nope

Trust in Oda

[hot cairn]

LOL

[final trench]

They are homies irl so i wouldnt be surprised

[grand flower]

Probably, but that series is also subject to a lot of invalid takes regarding that stuff

[ashen perch]

eh she just believes in her husband and loves him a lot tbh, I don't really see it as strange in anyway

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/drum-island-drum-kingdom-sakura-kingdom-sakura-blossom-gif-16505672576975853902

[hot cairn]

I just feel like it’ll be very boring if it goes that route

I’m not saying that it’s bad

[ocean sigil]

What if Eris is alive and actually the scared by a burn person everyone is looking for ?

[ashen perch]

well lets just

do not get into #other-series here please

[grand flower]

Eris tells Teach that the Davy took her in "even though she was a pirate," so I think she thinks of herself as someone who did nasty stuff

[final trench]

Yea she called herself an honorary davy, she definitely molded blackbeard into what he is today

[grand flower]

Oda is so funny for making Blackbeard the one character who turned out how they did cause their mom survived

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-the13th-part1-pamela-slap-gif-14068227

Remember what they did teach..

[ocean sigil]

Eris former Queen of Amazon Lily

[final trench]

Mothers make you evil - goda

[dense haven]

eris is luffys mom

[fallen meteor]

Luffy is Eris mom from the past

Jumped ahead on time

[ashen perch]

not necessarily, she just sees piracy as being too inherently nasty for regular folks to accept. Thats the vibe I got.

[rich hornet]

When your husband tells you there’s a secret king of the world and actually I should be king, it takes a certain kind of unhinged person to jump on that train without hesitation.

I can see her making Teech’s childhood solely about living up to his dad, in a quasi-abusive way

[final trench]

Probably made him study like a mf

[dense haven]

how old was bb when wb found him

[final trench]

12

[fallen meteor]

Wb kinda faceblind

[ashen perch]

I guess we will see, I feel like we're getting ahead of ourselves with this

[final trench]

I mean lets be honest this looks nothing like rocks

[surreal stone]

or he didn't care, like he didn't care about Ace's reveal

[final trench]

His nose right here looks downward, as rocks nose is long and skinny

[ashen perch]

Teach being a brainwashed baby..........

[ocean sigil]

I have it
Listen
Eris is actually.. Toki.. right before she was killed by Xebec she actually jumps into the future and lands in the times of Oden.
Remember when she said she didn't come back at the destined time? Because she knew BB isn't old enough yet.
She wanted to help Blackbeard become a pirate king but fell in love with Oden who reminded her so much of Xebec with his wild nature.
Momonosuke and Teach are actually half brothers
@ashen perch ping please

[urban lodge]

I'm sure that if he didn't know immediately he found out later, it's pretty obvious

[fallen meteor]

Nothing is crazy

There's something there

[ashen perch]

when I thought he couldnt go lower 😔

I don't know, I just dont like the idea at all

[final trench]

When he’s a kid no

When he’s an adult yea

[scenic dirge]

He’s not brainwashed, he’s just super ugly

[fallen meteor]

The problem is thst rocks is like 😄 and young bb is 🙁

[proud pivot]

@scenic dirge hello

[final trench]

https://tenor.com/view/whitebeard-teach-young-one-piece-whitebeard-pirates-gif-20554246

[urban lodge]

Eris being an evil mastermind would be comically bad but idk, I'm not against it because it would be quite funny

[final trench]

I dont see rocks right here

[fallen meteor]

Its not brainwashing its parasitism

[scenic dirge]

Hello arisu, happy Halloween!

[rich hornet]

It would help explain why the apple fell so far from the tree

[proud pivot]

|| BOO ||

[fallen meteor]

!mods this user made me cry

[tropic nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486983010025996299/1213179020192256050/image.png?ex=65f48802&is=65e21302&hm=1942e7e0e6e904c758cfcc338a0b3aaf5748f4b88335b8ca669695fcfdc234d1&

[scenic dirge]

[ashen perch]

I do wonder what Oda had in mind for her when she was supposed to meet Ace

[proud pivot]

Success

[tranquil blade]

Eris told him not to smile so that people wouldn't see the resemblance

[ashen perch]

Eris I mean

[proud pivot]

Are you a furry by chance

[ashen perch]

yea

[proud pivot]

Arsal too?

[tranquil blade]

Yeah

[hard fulcrum]

She had moved on from Rocks enough that Teach was gonna have two little sisters.

[ashen perch]

no I mean Evan smh

[tranquil blade]

Both of them are

[ashen perch]

ah yeah, that too lol

[scenic dirge]

Yeah

[tranquil blade]

W honesty W Speed

[ashen perch]

personally, I am thinking that it was Teach who abandoned Eris and left her at Lulusia

[proud pivot]

W honesty

[ashen perch]

and thats when Ace was supposed to have run into her, but Oda deleted that plotline

or well

[tranquil blade]

Oda fumbled

[sleek viper]

Yall think Garling might still have something up his sleeve feel like he’ll do something to Rocks ain’t no way oda’s gonna make him look this stupid

[ashen perch]

its not actually confirmed that he did tbf, he said he just decided against it back then

maybe it still happened

[proud pivot]

All he can do is a cheap shot

[dense haven]

garlingbros it's over

let it go

[ashen perch]

Garling sneaking Rocks is a real possibility

[tranquil blade]

Is sneaking a trait of the Figarland bloodline

[proud pivot]

Garling will take the credit for killing rocks by sneaking him from the behind after Roger and Garp have done 99% of the work

That's how garling gets his title

[tranquil blade]

Garling becomes most hated character overnight

[rich hornet]

I wonder if Garp could hear Rocks’ voice. Didn’t exactly seem like it, but wouldn’t be crazy if he could

[proud pivot]

I think Garp should be able to

Just because he's luffys grandpa

[cold steppe]

Well it looked like he was reacting to it

[stone terrace]

arsal pointed out other people can hear that stuff

like when laws crew heard luffy

i suspect that because roger has VOAT, its amplified for him hence his exaggerated reaction

[grand flower]

Marco kept telling him it was jus Oda having same face syndrome

[grand flower]

Rocks...is talking to him

[hard fulcrum]

Time for another flashback? Ace forever haunting the narrative.

[rich hornet]

Are you saying if you intentionally direct it, anyone could receive it?

[ashen perch]

yea, its how Luffy got Law's crew to save him from drowning to his death

[grand flower]

I mean moreso that Rocks talking to Garp should tell us Garp can hear it

[ashen perch]

I can see it, if Eris is alive then maybe we find out that she did meet Ace after all at one point

[grand flower]

Whether that's cause Garp can hear the voice of all things or because Rocks can project it to whoever he wants like Luffy did in Wano, not sure

But Garp is definitely hearing him

[ashen perch]

and that scrapped scene was simply just scrapped because it wasnt the right time for it

[rich hornet]

Yeah I can see that

[grand flower]

I'm inclined to think Garp can hear it cause it's motherfuckin garp ya know

[native cloud]

Icon, Laws crew did hear Luffy. I thought we all agreed on about this

[ashen perch]

VOAT users can telepathically communicate with anyone, so I am thinking Garp is hearing it the regular way and Roger is hearing the VOAT way

[stone terrace]

That is what i said...

[native cloud]

lol

[grand flower]

I want Garp to be able to hear the voice of all things too

[ashen perch]

well its not a big deal but their reactions were different for a reason I think

[native cloud]

Guys, why would they able to hear things but can’t communicate back??

[ashen perch]

for Roger it was more overbearing and painful in the same way Zunesha's voice is to every VOAT user

[tranquil blade]

VOAT is weird even now because I dont know what it's exact purpose is meant to be but regardless I could see Roger having it and Garp not having it

[native cloud]

It doesn’t sound right at all

[fallen meteor]

Whats when you can kinda listen to everything

I forgot the name

[grand flower]

Well, this is different. Only those who could hear the voice of all things could hear Zunesha at all

That's probably just cause Zunesha is colossal

[rich hornet]

I’m also willing to chalk this up to Oda using his powers inconsistently like he always does

[ashen perch]

sure yea, just saying it is a similar reaction so its definitely meant to be him using his VOAT to hear out Rocks

[iron oriole]

Ears

[fallen meteor]

Turns out its just voat I was confused

[sleek viper]

Schizophrenia

[ashen perch]

its not inconsistent though, makes perfect sense with what we have seen with VOAT

[fallen meteor]

Should be eoat

Ear of all things

And voat should be able to telepathically convey stuff

[native cloud]

To show that this conversation is mute, if everyone can hear but are unable to communicate back, why hasn’t that been shown with Zoro.. come on man yall gotta drop this shidd

[rich hornet]

Clearly not everyone can hear in certain channels or frequencies, like sea king talk

[ashen perch]

Luffy ---> could communicate with Law's crew, could communicate with Momo, could communicate with Emeth, could hear Zunesha

in all these instances, only Momo is a VOAT user.

[native cloud]

No!

[stone terrace]

Luffy and momo basically had a telephone call going

😭

[ashen perch]

yeah lol

[fallen meteor]

So voat users set up the channel and if you can or can not talk back

[ashen perch]

basically yea

[native cloud]

Arsal come on bruh

[ashen perch]

???

[native cloud]

!!!!

[ashen perch]

what are you confused about man

what does Zoro have to do with this

[native cloud]

You said Laws crew could hear Luffy but they couldn’t

Icon said it too

[rich hornet]

They had to have. At least using their instruments

[ashen perch]

yeah, he would have died if they didnt lol

[native cloud]

I still think they just heard drowning and helped him

[grand flower]

Man

[native cloud]

??

[tough igloo]

they heard him speaking

[ashen perch]

its very clear that they were hearing him speak lol

[ashen perch]

snail

[native cloud]

[ashen perch]

oh yea its mentioned again too lol

[tranquil blade]

Yeah they definitely heard him

[grand flower]

What you think

[ashen perch]

anyways, I was looking at Emeth's dialogue and he's a strange one

he never says a thing from his mouth

[minor sky]

Roger's resume is so ass man. This guy is the "Pirate King" but is equal to every pirate and has a total of 0 1v1 wins 😹

[ashen perch]

all of it is telepathic, and only Luffy can hear it, wonder how that works

[iron oriole]

Yeah Emet talks directly to Luffy

I think that might be a seperate thing idk

[ashen perch]

eh still gotta be VOAT

Oda just has to explain how someone gets it or is born with it, its odd

[native cloud]

Wait…

[azure wasp]

Almost as if the tilte isn't strength related

[ashen perch]

dont engage

[golden valley]

Drums of liberation is the counter to domi reversi

[cold steppe]

Speaking of that, we're close to hearing joyboy

In the anime

[ashen perch]

oh yeah we are

I am still mad at Emeth's voice

[stone terrace]

Voat might be the same for every person

They didnt recognize it as luffy

They just said a voice

[minor sky]

Yet Kaido mentioned Roger's strength, Shiki too...

[tranquil blade]

These takes unfortunately are never gonna leave the community now

[ashen perch]

maybe

[urban lodge]

He should have sounded like a kid

Damn you toei

[stone terrace]

And roger goes "that voice" right

Like hes heard it before

[azure wasp]

And? He's strong just not above everyone

[ashen perch]

but Emeth had a super childish tone to his voice, like very Chopper-esque atleast

its weird to hear him as a middle aged dude lol

[minor sky]

He's hyped by the literal entire verse to be stronger than everyone else but instead he's mr equal man

[tranquil blade]

I mean he is old

[ashen perch]

hee hee..... hee hee............

[tranquil blade]

He's 800 years young 🥹

[azure wasp]

When has a single person called him strongest pirate

[ashen perch]

hes just a baby

[rich hornet]

Don’t bully the robot

[stone terrace]

Robits dont age

Unless he got a software update

[tranquil blade]

Mechophobia

[sweet anvil]

Still exploring his options ❤️‍🩹

[stone terrace]

Freakin clanker

[minor sky]

Roger is the example of strength among top tiers is how it's communicated. You're not supposed to be spoonfed like with mihawk or wb

[dense rapids]

I think rocks is gonna do another crazy lore drop but only to Roger and Garp with VOAT

[iron oriole]

Roger was spoonfed the title of Pirate King

"Please WB-san, let me borrow Oden so i can become Pirate King"

[minor sky]

😭

He's true

[native cloud]

[rich hornet]

How bout we let this clash play out and judge Roger after

[ashen perch]

https://x.com/tacchan56110/status/1984232257960456193

たっちゃん (@tacchan56110)

#今週のワンピ #rkgk

X · Oct 31, 2025, 12:13 PM

damn this dude got it right

[minor sky]

All I'm saying we gonna have the most uncomfortable conversations if we witness a Garp carry

[ashen perch]

this is exactly how I wanted that build up to the big combo to look like lol

would've been a great double spread on its own

[dense rapids]

@ashen perch thoughts on this

I use to think Hody Jones was foreshadowing Blackbeard future, but maybe it’s foreshadowing Davy Jones past

Just a random connection, but if Davy jones did rule atop the redline with the Lunarians then Hody having Ikaros on his crew makes sense.

Ikaros (Wings of Icarus) even has a flame on his stomach (foreshadowing lunarian flame on their back”?

[azure wasp]

He's considered the pinnacle of piracy. His strength alway has only bein concidered along with other top tier

One very first time we hear of roger strength is when buggy states WB is equal to him

[dense rapids]

He even has an attack called wings of Ikaros

His arms = the wings

[ashen perch]

yeah I can buy this, maybe his alliance with Vander Decken IX also hinted at Davy and Vander Decken knowing each other. Remember that the original Vander was after the original Poseidon too.

[dense rapids]

Yea and his ancestor comes to connect with someone who’s based on Davy

[wet heron]

JoyBoy's ghost scaring Imu and getting him on his knees after what like a whole millenia.

[ashen perch]

yeah

[azure wasp]

Zeo my goat

[tranquil blade]

What Rocks pirates traitors did he fight

[azure wasp]

Zeo the WFC

[dense rapids]

I think

Hody Jones pirates = Davy jones pirates

Sun Pirates = Joy boy pirates

[royal orchid]

"Ikaros no Tsubasa"
Any other place: Wings of Ikaros
Funi: Spirit of the Squid

[ashen perch]

this is the result of reading spoilers and not chapters

[wet heron]

yes one of the first things I observed about the chapter, also how how when Rocks mentions about fulfilling "the promise" we see Eris and Teech running.

[ashen perch]

a summary mentioned that he did that lol

[wet heron]

BB

[ashen perch]

yeah this makes sense

[rich hornet]

Oda really puts this shit in front of our faces for decades

[azure wasp]

Is that really enough to speculate anything?

[urban lodge]

Reminds me of the thing about Rocks' dad having a straw hat, some leaker just made that up and everyone ran with it

It's just a regular hat

[native seal]

damn i aint even realize this panel was to point out imu thinking eris and bb are dead

[wet heron]

Zeo is such a funny character

[rich hornet]

I’m not convinced it isn’t a straw hat

[wet heron]

we need that mf and his gags back

[urban lodge]

It doesn't look like how Oda draws straw

[dense rapids]

Yes

Some people don’t believe it

But every arc Oda has characters that connect to future events

Not literally, but based on the future events

[ashen perch]

Domi Reversi

[azure wasp]

He is called Johnes

[dense rapids]

Has to be at this point

Vander Decken is Zunesha

[ashen perch]

well I doubt that cause we know Zunesha is supposed to be a real creature lol

[dense rapids]

Yea I’m trolling

[royal orchid]

so we have confirmed with this panel

• imu's senses don't reach that far even if the communication does
• they can't see through the possessed's eyes
• they don't have projected vision

[tranquil blade]

Are saying Vander Decken the first and Davy Jones are different people

[formal wagon]

Naaaaaaah

[dense rapids]

Last night I was saying that Momo and Shirahoshi ability is similar to Imu’s

Rocks can only obey Imu commands

But he can talk to people with VOAT

[ashen perch]

they definitely could be the same people too

[leaden rivet]

I actually do like of like her, even the scene where she realized rocks lost was pretty sad. She’s the only solid female character of this flashback I’d say.

[azure wasp]

I like rocks seemingly ignored imu orders and went back to roger and garp

[dense rapids]

So does Imu, Momo ancestor, and Poseidon use a type of Domi Reversi to control minds?

[formal wagon]

Im lowkey curious when eggead end. My guess would be december.

Ends

[iron oriole]

It should be

[formal wagon]

Tfw egghead ends in decemver

Its a wknger island. Goda

[royal orchid]

Rocks with more preparation could fully control his Domi Reversi form

https://tenor.com/view/just-saying-colin-jost-saturday-night-live-snl-nbc-gif-18789887

[formal wagon]

Im on mobile btw

💀 colin jost

[azure wasp]

Honestly it does seem it can be resisted if you are strong enough

[royal orchid]

I used to think his name was jolin cost

some jon bovi shit

[dense haven]

he was about to kill his family

take that L rockbros

[formal wagon]

Didnt he get cancelled for eating the ashes of peoples loved ones when they werent looking?

[royal orchid]

because he wasn't prepared for the giga hax yet

[azure wasp]

Doffy did kill hisp family

[ashen perch]

Yea I wouldnt say its him ignoring Imu's orders, its just him going after the strongest targets after they baited him in with their massive CoC bursts

[native seal]

startin to feel like mosa is shirahoshi and the sovereign them sea kings were talking about is loki

[urban lodge]

How do you feel about the idea that she manipulated Teach into becoming who he is?

[royal orchid]

their massive coc bursts

[dense rapids]

Imu was on Davy Jones crew but he betrayed him and took his power and throne

[ashen perch]

what else was it

[tranquil blade]

Mother Caramel 2.0

[azure wasp]

Imu does seem socked tho

[rich hornet]

Loki was born before the sea kings were having that convo

[formal wagon]

It = eggheads december conclusion

[native seal]

oh damn

[tranquil blade]

Actually nvm Streusen 2.0

[dense haven]

anyway kuma is the goat of gv

[formal wagon]

Stussy?

[dense rapids]

Kuma is the goat of one piece

[formal wagon]

Whos gv

[dense haven]

he should've been the revo leader all along

[formal wagon]

Grand vine

[ashen perch]

more like just reacting to him suddenly directing his attention to something else

[dense rapids]

He’s definitely coping

[native seal]

tell me whats happening in this panel

[formal wagon]

Id say thw grandest vine is the one that butters your busicuit the most

[azure wasp]

I was thinking

• Sun god nika -> joyboy -> luffy
• Earth god -> davy jones -> teach
• Forrest god = imu
• Sea god = poseidon

[dense rapids]

I think switch earth and forest

[fallen meteor]

So she knew he wasnt ready
It means he shared part or all of his plan with her
So she could be the one to teach BB about his dad's plan

[dense rapids]

It makes more sense if Davy Jones was the one who controlled devil fruits

[formal wagon]

Akainu is the rain god cause magma

[fallen meteor]

Makes sense

[royal orchid]

god of the land = elbaf legendary fruit, trust

[dense haven]

kuma is a buccaneer so a bullet is nothing to him

[native seal]

here we go with the goalposts

classic

[formal wagon]

Land hod is probavly like tonjit or aomething becayse he lives on long land

[tranquil blade]

Akainu would be earth god because magma is in the land

[dense rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/kuma-bartholomew-kuma-kuma-one-piece-sad-kuma-flashback-gif-10300192025150641624

[tranquil blade]

in the earth

[dense rapids]

I guess?

[formal wagon]

You sound insane right now

[ashen perch]

Cease this babble!! made me giggle

[tranquil blade]

oh thats

[formal wagon]

Oh thats...

[dense rapids]

Clapp got clapped

[native seal]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-25783770

literally imu btw

[formal wagon]

Naaaaaah furious cat

[dense haven]

clap is fodder he doesn't count

[fallen meteor]

Crazy take

[tranquil blade]

Imu looks so goofy just being this dark shape with angry eyes

[native seal]

im saying

[grand flower]

Makes me think Joy boy was chosen to be king and Imu resented that and usurped him before he could rule

[native seal]

please let bb be our final villain

[ashen perch]

he looks incredible actually

[proud pivot]

ohh shut up

[ashen perch]

this is what peak character design looks like

[grand flower]

I’m starting to finally like Imu

[proud pivot]

he looks terrible

[ashen perch]

I knew you'd come around to him shuron

[native seal]

like bro he looks extra goofy here

😭