western-series

[sage remnant]

Did we read the same book?

[leaden bramble]

Probably not lol

[sage remnant]

There wasn't anything as such

[leaden bramble]

Ill give it another read someday

I was just like reading it and kind of bored and I just was reading Dune at the same time, and that was like 1/5th of the size and I liked it way more so I was just like "What am I doing?"

[sage remnant]

Wax and Wayne looks very promising for me though. Like it just seems the perfect kind of story for me.
I have an inkling that I might like it even more than Stormlight

[sage remnant]

I think I prefer Mistborn start to Dune's

I had more issues with structure of the book and chapter division

But the story was more interesting for Mistborn at the start

[leaden bramble]

Yeah to be clear Dune wasnt a HUGE fave either lol (I liked Messiah more), but it just felt like it had more substance to me

[leaden bramble]

These are my top 10 fiction books for context for what I like lol

[modern lichen]

good list

[zenith moon]

breaking bad season 4 finale spoilers

[dim hedge]

https://youtu.be/46apRZx_0Jo?si=N42_uO5B89ROIcz0

[fresh umbra]

On my birthday nice

Superman ||Live action Krypto||

[unkempt agate]

the wild robot || ANIMATION IS SO FUCKING BACK ||

[mild seal]

Well

I just got spoiled on campaign 3 by a YouTube video

[arctic flax]

youtube spoilers no longer affect me ever since i got extension to disable recommendations and everything

[autumn basin]

Aww SuperDoggy

No idea he had an dog though

[primal mason]

Gonna watch Lady Snowblood

[primal mason]

This film is very colorful

[dim hedge]

Saul Goodman

It's all good man

Get it

?

[mild seal]

nah I don't get it

[regal root]

LOTR: Fellowship ||Gosh this is disturbing to look at , short person wearing a shitty Frodo mask because they couldn't just scale Elijah Wood down with a computer or CG his head on that person's body during the scene.||

LOTR: Fellowship ||Oh God, the Sam one is even worse At least the stand in for John Rhys-Davis isn't terrible||

LOTR: Fellowship ||Something I love about this shot, it's actually done in 2 parts. John Rhys-Davies (Gimli) was actually the tallest of the cast but being as he's playing a short character who has to be in the happy medium between the human/wizard and hobbit characters they had him in this scene with the hobbits while the humans and Gandalf are in another shot amongst themselves, then they combined the shots together.||

[shadow sequoia]

Watching LOTR?

[dim hedge]

I am LOTR

[worthy crypt]

i watched all of it a month or two ago when i was home sick from work, pretty decent. I guess its inevitable because it was the seed that spawned all the rest but it just felt a little basic to me

like morraine from wot is a cooler gandalf than gandalf

[sage remnant]

Oh btw I finished MB era 1 book 1

Remembered I forgot to ping you

Here

[worthy crypt]

nice yeah i actually liked || kelsir death, reminded me of trial of socrates where he kinda knew he was doomed and dooming himself but planned to make himself more meaningful and accomplish things in death. If I remembering correctly. been a while since I read mist 1 ||

[sage remnant]

I am so excited for era 2. It'd the only reason I started Mistborn at this point

[worthy crypt]

haha really? Overall impressions era 2 no specific spoilers || a bit less grand fantasy epic but the tech era is a bit cooler and I think its especially cool to see the worldbuilding lignering effects and cultural things that pop up as a direct result of era 1 actions ||

I think hes working on a 90s early internet era 3 at some point though idk when hes gonna get to it with stormlight stuff to do

[sage remnant]

The thing I am looking for recently in a fantasy world is a world that has evolved considering the impacts, specifically magitech and also just normal, of the magic elements in That world

And Mistborn era 2 seems that way

[worthy crypt]

yeah I think it definitely touches on that I doubt youll be disappointed there

[sage remnant]

Also the blurb on the box set cover made me more interested.
||
"The battles have become history. History has become religion." || Mistborn era 2

I had enjoyed this aspect in between a certain two parts in Jojo and i think this would be even greater in mistborn

[regal root]

Again you mean

Gosh Fellowship is just breath taking

Damn near a masterpiece

[shadow sequoia]

I need to rewatch them all one of these days

[tawny parcel]

Watched saturday night, fun film, even with having never watched snl

Makes me want to go watch the first episode though just for the sake of the film

[worthy crypt]

I do kinda feel bad for the extent hes getting clowned on trying to do his end of career passion project but at the same time this is the big leagues millions of dollars im sure he can handle criticism

[mild seal]

he also did some fucked up shit on set

[modern lichen]

he doesnt give a shit, coppola is absolutely resistant to any kind of trolling

[worthy crypt]

How bad was it? I dont know. Not to excuse it but i kidna expect any mega old person, hes what 85?, to do fucked up shit sometimes . Just too old for the times. Shit that was ok for like 50% of his adult life is no longer ok. Im sure its gonna happen to me some extent too.

[modern lichen]

i cant say its good or bad, its insane

[worthy crypt]

is it one of those so good its bad? it seems like it might be an enjoyable ride if i get really intoxicated beforehand

[modern lichen]

you mean so bad its good?

[worthy crypt]

yeah woops

[modern lichen]

i cant describe the experience of watching it other than a fever dream in the truest sense of the phrase

[worthy crypt]

yeah idk ill probably wait for streaming but it seems like.... 3 beers 4 weed gummies it might be a great time

[worthy crypt]

im not sure what this is but it seems sketchy @modest canyon

nvm deleted

[shadow sequoia]

Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl ||Crazy how little I remember of this movie, rewatching was hella fun. I always wished One Piece gave me this feeling of spectacle with regards to piracy, naval battles, and swordfights. So good and the CGI was a lot better than I remember.||

[cosmic ore]

Tough decision tomorrow. Should I watch terrifier 3 or smile 2

[fluid merlin]

It only took a few years but finally got the wkw box @modern lichen
If you remember us talking about it way back when

#western-series message

[modern lichen]

FUCK YEAH

[fluid merlin]

Saw yiyi and brighter summer day last two days

[modern lichen]

Flowers of Shanghai, Raging Bull, Yi Yi, Brighter Summer Day

[fluid merlin]

Wow theyre different and a bit hard, but so beautiful, need to rewatch again

[modern lichen]

Flowers of Shanghai has one of my favorite opening sequences

[fluid merlin]

Havnt opened it yet, tried to watch it on a pirate stream before but quality was so bad I gave up, looking forward to it now

[modern lichen]

It’s so beautiful, deserves the criterion watch

[fluid merlin]

I know hsous films are even slower but I think im getting used it now

I love raging bull too but it is still easily available unlike the other, figured I might as well get it since I have a couple of scorsese films already

Waiting for a good sale before I pick anything else up, this was a bit of a spontaneous buy after getting upset that it is so hard to find asian cinema in decent quality 🤣

[modern lichen]

Yeah, it’s rare for Indian films to have Criterion versions though unfortunately

[fluid merlin]

Theres the apu trilogy, first thing that comes to mind

[thorny heron]

Is this real

[modern lichen]

Yeah

[fluid merlin]

Has anyone seen it?

[modern lichen]

I have

It’s wild

[leaden bramble]

Sick haul baller hell yeah

[brave cedar]

hyped for arcane s2

I absolutely pogged when I saw the trailer for the first time back in June

I was like "omfg no way"

I had completely forgotten about arcane and this suddenly pops up

[modern lichen]

https://fixupx.com/discussingfilm/status/1846536880331821409?s=46

[bold sparrow]

OH MY GOD

thats hype

[oblique wind]

some good horror

with demons

witches

haunted houses

something ??

[shrewd sigil]

arcane series trailer (s1 and s2 spoilers) ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl-xmZTH6GE||

[drifting schooner]

We will be there

[shadow sequoia]

Absolute cinema as expected

God, the music is so good

[tawny parcel]

Nature is healing

[primal mason]

Gonna watch Tokyo Story next

[unkempt agate]

@modern lichen so big hype for tlovm

[proud fiber]

Awesome stuff

[fluid merlin]

About to watch as tears go by now, will watch the set chronologically

[primal mason]

Finished Tokyo Story ||Pretty alright film. All the little moments build up to the themes of mortality and how to move on and it’s handled well. I personally felt bored 3/4ths into the film, I’m not particularly a fan of people just talking about mundane things in life. Almost very certain that Mitsuru Adachi was very inspired by this movie. ||

[shadow sequoia]

The Poetic Edda ||The more I read this, the more I'm realizing Odin was a jackass just like Zeus||

The Poetic Edda ||Making me feel like Loki is the good guy lol||

[white smelt]

The Bible ||This Apple probably doesn’t taste as good as a cosmic crisp||

[fickle ember]

[primal mason]

massive Bible spoilers, plz read Wanze ||Jesus died on the cross. spoiled you||

[shadow sequoia]

Are you making fun of me Wanze

[primal mason]

Massive W: https://vxtwitter.com/TFHypeGuy/status/1846677359270994255

[white smelt]

No just the Edda spoilers caught me off guard

[shadow sequoia]

[white smelt]

Do you know what translation you’re reading? Scholars get a bit finicky about it

[shadow sequoia]

These are the two I got

[white smelt]

Oh Jackson is good

[shadow sequoia]

I don't know anything about mythology so I was just reading the books recommended online

[white smelt]

He’s got a whole YouTube channel lol

Seems like a decent fella

He’s like a cowboy but does Norse mythology stuff lol

[shadow sequoia]

I think the Snorri dude was the original writer but even he had his own interpretations or something

[white smelt]

Always has a hat on every time I see him

[shadow sequoia]

I'll have to check that out then

[proud fiber]

i thought you were talking about persona and got hella confused for a bit

anyway your interpretations a bit off imo its actually about ||how life sucks||

[primal mason]

[modern lichen]

this is a bullshit reading

but you have no idea what subtlety and nuance are

so par for the course

tokyo story ||the movie is about the gap between parents and children, of generations being unable to connect, even on the mundane things, the inability of children to look after their parents and being resentful, the parents being resentful for their children's materialistic drive, the idea of possessions and materialism in a changing world especially of that time, the hollowness of the modern life in a city/urbanscape||

[near echo]

Yeah but are the girls cute

[modern lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/mayday-air-disaster-united-midair-collision-plane-crash-gif-23314025

[jovial pelican]

I’m about a quarter through The Way of Kings and it is indeed that good. So far.

[mild seal]

poor harsh is gonna have a heart attack one of these days

[modern lichen]

I’ve moved beyond that

[mild seal]

lol

[modern lichen]

vox machina s3e7 ||fucking hell they did justice to glintshore and ripley, holy shit||

[unkempt agate]

vox machina s3e7 || wasnt gonna drink tonight but i miss percival frederickstein von musel klossowski de rolo III like a motherfucker ||

[fluid merlin]

how good is Gangs of Wasseypur? @modern lichen

[modern lichen]

its great

both parts

[shadow sequoia]

Less than a month until Arcane RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

[worthy crypt]

First few chapters of death's end, three body 3 || Section where dude reflected on his life punctuated by confirming his decision 5 times in the euthanasia machine was great. Though it seems like an odd thing to start with? Nothing to do with aliens. Maybe section on euthanasia establishing a thematic point that will have something to do with the title 'death's end'||

[shrewd sigil]

[primal mason]

Gonna watch Lady Snowblood 2

[peak pilot]

rah

[unkempt agate]

ARCANESWEEEEEEEP

[primal mason]

Starting Tampopo also

[leaden bramble]

Tampopo rocks

[primal mason]

Finished both Lady of Snowblood movies ||Simple but fun vengeance movies. There's not much to say. The highlights were how colorful and solid the cinematography were that kept my attention. ||

Also finished Tampopo ||I liked this a lot. Very straight-forward story of a girl earnestly doing her best to perfect her craft at food-making. I was kinda put off by the scenes unrelated to Tampopo's story, but i realized the point of it, in that it showed the power food has in connecting people together. Those scenes built up well to the climax, where Tampopo finally got her refined ramen shop ready with so many happy customers she's occupied with. That one scene with the gangster dying and talking about food really stuck with me too. Good film. ||

[fickle ember]

Is someone gonna answer this so I know if I should add it to my list

[primal mason]

no

no cute girls

[fickle ember]

Sounds pretty mid

[primal mason]

true

[grizzled barn]

https://youtu.be/yzEZ-pxqb3g

[modern lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/northernlion-nl-hammers-beat-him-beat-gif-7823471197919175037

i aspire to be as funny as this guy reading into movies where things are communicated visually and not just shouted over the rooftops

[modern lichen]

finished the latest CR episode, wonderful

[mild seal]

My dumbass forgot to turn off the twitch live alerts so I saw the title of today's episode

[modern lichen]

what was it?

nein hells i think was it

[mild seal]

Crc3 latest ||something about chaos with the mighty Nein and bells hells going to ruidus||

[modern lichen]

ah lol

[latent light]

ay yall fw ATLA?

[modern lichen]

Yeah it’s good

[leaden bramble]

Good show, dont really understand the need for more of it - ended well

[latent light]

yeah i didnt watch TLOK yet

might tho

[primal mason]

Gonna watch a Brighter Summer Day. It's a very long movie. :DDDDD

[unkempt agate]

latest CR episode || big day for dorym shippers ||

[leaden bramble]

At the very least Korra has some very good action choreography at points

[latent light]

is it worth watching?

[leaden bramble]

I like it overall, a lot of the writing is kind of subpar and rushed though imo

It tries to tackle more mature subjects but doesnt really have the capacity to handle them well for the most part I think

[latent light]

ill probably give it a try when i dont got anything to watch

[leaden bramble]

But like you do get to see more mature bending action, which is really cool

[latent light]

i think i watched it as a kid

but i dont remember much

[leaden bramble]

Its definitely less cohesive and the cast is definitely overall less enjoyable than ATLA but its a fine and fun time

[latent light]

nice

thanks

[shrewd sigil]

korra also just got fucked by Nickelodeon at every step aswell

which was the main cause for most of its problems

[latent light]

bad writing or?

i doubt its gonna surpass ATLA tbh

[shrewd sigil]

let me just find a list of all the things they did actually one sec

[latent light]

okay haha

[leaden bramble]

Its OK writing

Nothing awful

[shrewd sigil]

very light korra spoilers

[sage remnant]

Vady did you like HoA more than TFE?

I hope I am not confusing you for someone else

[shrewd sigil]

i liked tfe more overall but hero of ages' ending was my favorite section in the whole trilogy

[latent light]

damn

[leaden bramble]

I remember when they started airing Korra online and the website didnt even work lmao yeah

[latent light]

lmao

[leaden bramble]

Like bro I tried to watch it legally sorry

[sage remnant]

Nice. I wouldn't have been much hopeful if it was a series which fell off after first book

[shrewd sigil]

yeah its pretty good throughout all the books fortunately

alot of people have hero of ages as their favorite aswell

[humble crystal]

yo guys

[sinful vessel]

https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/1847360194243699026?s=46

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

First poster for ‘FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDYS 2’

In theaters on December 5, 2025.

Twitter · Oct 18, 2024, 7:32 PM

[peak pilot]

We will all be there

[sonic quail]

No

[peak pilot]

Yes

[scenic galleon]

the audience for the first one was the worst i've ever had in a theater

[leaden bramble]

I think my theater was empty except for like 1 couple lol

[young compass]

i mean was it just a bunch of kids?

[primal mason]

Gonna watch Tokyo Drifter.

[scenic galleon]

teens/tweens who talked nonstop and literally shouted and pointed at the screen when something/someone they recognized appeared

[young compass]

yeah i feel like that's exactly what i would expect going to a fnaf movie lol

[sonic quail]

This gif has scarred me

[modern lichen]

transformers one || https://x.com/L4stSh00t1nStar/status/1847327075142946944 ||

ㅂㄹㄸ (@L4stSh00t1nStar) on X

don't cry over my dead body
#TransformersOne

Twitter · Oct 18, 2024, 5:21 PM

[unkempt agate]

latest critical role || https://x.com/TOJustForArt/status/1847107366321565810 || @modern lichen

TO (@TOJustForArt) on X

COW PALS?! #criticalrolespoilers

Twitter · Oct 18, 2024, 2:48 AM

da goats (or the cows)

[modern lichen]

Critical Role Campaign 3 latest || this interaction is one of my favorite moments in this episode, Cad is the GOAT ||

[unkempt agate]

|| "moo." ||

||".................sure"||

[unkempt agate]

dropped some absolute banger quotes once again

[modern lichen]

@fickle ember the absolute DC universe is turning out to be so good

[fickle ember]

[sleek basin]

Breaking bad- ||Put your dick away waltuh||

[fickle ember]

World’s Finest, first on my to read list as soon as it ends. Cant wait to get context to all these things I’ve seen

[modern lichen]

[low canopy]

Does anyone have any movie recommendations (maybe something similar to ferrari v ford and gran turismo?)

[sage remnant]

Rewatched 3 Idiots.

Peak

[drifting schooner]

Cars 2

[potent bolt]

True

[drowsy knot]

Loki tv show spoilers / latest OP chap ||I’m crying yo this is so fucking true ||

[worthy crypt]

death's end - deterrence era, year 13 || I wonder if I'm alone in finding it ourageous that they put the bronze age crew on trial. Maybe cause I was conditioned to accept the necessity of their circumstances in the previous book. I guess I'm not sure what side the book expects me to be on ||

[sage sleet]

actually stoked for creature commandos

[fresh umbra]

Looks good

Creature Commandos ||Didn’t expect to see Clayface in the first DCU project||

[fickle ember]

@modern lichen https://x.com/DenizCamp/status/1847680232888639548?t=OPh3uP2pTuuCeUqlDLS16Q&s=19

Deniz Camp (@DenizCamp) on X

MMH is much less a superhero book than it is a kind of innerspace scifi story, heavily influenced by stuff like 2001, Le Guin, Ballard and -- above all -- Pynchon. It's a psychedelic noir that tackles the big Human Questions through a small, personal lens.

Twitter · Oct 19, 2024, 4:44 PM

Sounds pretty interesting

[bold yew]

any really good horror movie suggestions ?

[leaden bramble]

Ive been avoiding all these absolute books and honestly most modern DC but Im very excited about this

This was my top 25 horror movies as of last October lol, might be changed now but Im too lazy to do that

Deleted the link because I decided I probably shouldnt dox myself lmao

[mild seal]

too late, I know your IP

[leaden bramble]

FUCK

[vast root]

Cure

[worthy crypt]

Not that horrorish more thriller but I watched red dragon yesterday and it was pretty good. One of the hannibal stories, Anthony Hopkins, Ed Norton, Philip Seymour Hoffman. On Netflix rn

[primal mason]

Forgot to share, but I did finish A Brighter Summer Day and Tokyo Drifter yesterday.

A Brighter Summer Day ||I kinda liked it. The length was kinda overwhelming me before watch, but just watching the lives of these characters degrade because of the tough, unfortunate circumstances during the period was intriguing enough for me to keep watching all the way. I wanted the film to last forever so I could see the characters lives go on a little longer, but alas, the climax where the boy killed the girl was a good closure. It's a very extensive tragedy that worked. ||

Tokyo Drifter ||Well, it was certainly an action flick with solid mafia action and cinematography with a badass protagonist alright. Entertaining enough. Not much else can be said TBH. ||

I'll be watching Ikiru next.

[primal mason]

Ikiru ||Bro just guides the old man to a better life and the first thing he has him do is pachinko. SMH. 😭 ||

[grizzled barn]

The Thing

[primal mason]

First five stars I gave since I started this marathon of binging movies.

[modern lichen]

i hope this remains the last and you stop marathoning movies

[primal mason]

nope

i must tread on

[modern lichen]

i dont mind it, its fun making fun of your bad reviews

[primal mason]

[modern lichen]

is this too subtle for you or should i spell it out anime style?

[leaden depot]

Peak fiction

[modern lichen]

ikiru is one of the greatest films ever made though

[modern lichen]

FUCK YEAH

[fickle ember]

Slightly bummed all these good things are coming out at the same time, I don’t want more ongoings to follow

[modern lichen]

absolute green lantern is apparently an eldritch horror story

[fickle ember]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-sweat-monkas-monka-eyes-gif-10994127

[young compass]

Why didn’t you review ikiru blue

[leaden bramble]

If you only have nice things to say dont say anything at all

[modern lichen]

that gives me the idea, its been a while since i rewatched ikiru (almost 6 years), i'll rewatch it tomorrow

[young compass]

Tbh, I like Ikiru, but I only really regard it in reference to when it was created

[primal mason]

I didn't write it out yet

[modern lichen]

ikiru is a timeless story to me

[primal mason]

movie has me reminiscing and thinking carefully on what i should write

[modern lichen]

it has its cultural and temporal nuances as being a product of culture at the time it came out but its essentially a humanist manifesto, which applies to the climate today as well

[tawny parcel]

Ikirpoo

[modern lichen]

no

[tawny parcel]

(I’ve never seen it)

[young compass]

Ikiru ||I don’t really see how its humanistic philosophies apply to the climate today beyond the like, very base messaging, which is often echoed by contemporary modern films. For the time it was certainly a poignant observation though, and like I said I take this into account when evaluating the film - I guess I just think certain other films from both Kurosawa or other Japanese directors come off as less dated when evaluating them in a vacuum. It makes a lot of sense to me that blue liked this more than everything else he’s watched so far ||

I forgot to reply

Dersu uzala ||is also a film of his I like that doesn’t at all hold up ideologically, but I would argue it didn’t at the time either lol ||

[vast root]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[primal mason]

Ikiru Overall Impressions

|| What I really like about this film is that it’s completely honest. There’s this vibe to its cinematography and acting that makes every single interaction feel so human and real. The struggle of the old man trying to find the words in what he wants to do after realizing his stomach cancer is so sincere that I wanted to see him be able to speak to others on what he wanted to do. It’s understandably a lengthy and confusing process for a man his age. I was 100% captured by his slow journey to realizing how to become lively and his pursuit to do something in his life for once, instead of repeating the ambitionless cycle of his job. ||

|| When the movie went on a big risk to kill off its protagonist later on, I was very surprised and wondered where the movie would go from there. Where it went its third act was powerful and thought provoking. The way the workers talk about the protagonist’s role in building the park in the MIDST OF A FUNERAL gave me so many different emotions from disgust, anger, to sadness. Genuinely, I wanted to punch everyone trying to undermine the old man’s determination and efforts. It’s incredibly shitty. ||

|| And going from that to realizing how central he was to making that goal happen to motivating the workers to doing better, only for those workers to not really act on that when they get back from their job, that’s complete honesty that made me reflect greatly on the old man’s influence after finishing the movie. “I could do better than those workers and do what the old man has done” is probably the thing Kurosawa wanted to have the audience grasp on their own. I think that risky gamble of a perspective switch worked. More than just a film of living life in the best way you can before time could run out, it’s also a soft critique on the stagnating system of bureaucracy that’s still a relevant issue today. Ikiru brings reflection to its audience on how you could be better and do more for yourself to spark real joy, the same joy the old man saw with the woman that lived life with an enthusiastic lens. ||

Definitely one of the best films I seen.

[sturdy kayak]

thog no care

[primal mason]

I normally don't write this much for movies, but for this one, this is a special case.

[modern lichen]

Yeah you write a lot for shitty manga

This is new

Maybe your brain is opening up now

Finally

[primal mason]

i'm pretty sure you doubt that

[modern lichen]

Yeah I do, your brain only works with shitty ecchi

[primal mason]

that's my harsh

[white smelt]

What is your problem dude

[sage remnant]

Blue's reviews seems to fried poor harsh's brain

[primal mason]

I think I'll watch High and Low after Ikiru.

Seems like a great idea

[young compass]

Are you gonna watch any tora-san movies

[primal mason]

i don't know what that is, but i'm watching what's on my ptw from people that recced me stuff

specifically movies on Criterion Channel

taking advantage of the free trial

I've got Come and See, Yi Yi, Battle of Algiers, Harakiri and High and Low left

[young compass]

They did a criterion collection of the tora-san films at one point, maybe it’s on there

Otoko wa tsurai yo

You said before that a movie you watched reminded you of adachi, this series legitimately was an inspiration

[primal mason]

seems like its not there, and when I searched up how to stream, it said it's not available

and hard to buy apparently

[young compass]

Damn

[primal mason]

how did you watch em

[young compass]

I watched a few of them in Japanese and a few with subtitles on random websites. Usually the internet archive is helpful for that

[primal mason]

yeah that's shut down atm

[white smelt]

When are you watching the assassination of Jesse James

[young compass]

It’s back

wait no

It’ll be back soon though

[primal mason]

Just focusing on watching as much as I can on the streaming services I'm using atm. I'm subbing to Netflix soon probably.

Seems like that movie is not on any streaming service atm, so I'm just gonna hold off.

Thank you for reminding me to watch it though.

[sage remnant]

@primal mason you should watch 3 idiots

[primal mason]

you mean three stooges?

[sage remnant]

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/3_idiots

It's an Hindi film

[primal mason]

ohhhhh

oops

i'll keep it noted

looks like it's not streaming and is a paid movie only online, i'll probably see it down the line

[white smelt]

Yeah I don’t think I’ve ever seen it streaming. I own the bluray

[primal mason]

yeah, so later then

but when I do decide to rent and buy movies online i'll do yours first

[mild seal]

I saw that...

[white smelt]

It’s got an all star cast I guess both in name but also everyone’s performances are top notch. Perhaps my favorite film.

[primal mason]

watching these movies on different streaming services has me appreciating how accessible these movies are these days

[mild seal]

thank you for reminding me to look for a movie that isn't on any streaming sites

[primal mason]

even when the amount of services get excessive, ppl working on those services go out of their way to get harder to access movies streamin for people to easily access.

and i get to eat up those free trials to watch em all for free

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-patrick-star-rubbing-hands-gif-18664752

[proud fiber]

ABSD is probably one of the best films ive ever seen

i was scared of the four hours but it just went right into me

theres a chinese cinema club at my university i hope they screen more stuff like that

[young compass]

Yang films are like that

Have you seen any others?

Yi yi is pretty popular

very immersive

[proud fiber]

Havent no

the dvd was at my library but i wanted to save it

on the off chance theyre screening it around here

but i came like, a month too late for the yang festival

[young compass]

when I worked there, my co-worker had me watch basically his whole filmography lol

So I have no clue if they’re accessible outside of Taiwan

but I imagine at least a few are

[proud fiber]

i mean from what i heard their popularity snowballed post theatrical release more than anything

most libraries in my area have a healthy stock of criterion

but i think those were the only 2 yang films i saw were in my countys system

[modern lichen]

What hou hsiao-hsien movies have you seen

[young compass]

goodbye south goodbye, flowers of shanghai, a city of sadness, one or two others

I saw most before I even went to Taiwan

[modern lichen]

Nice, Flowers of Shanghai is my favorite of the bunch

Just through the virtue of being a period piece too

[young compass]

I heard his new film was kinda dumb lol

[modern lichen]

Dang lol

[young compass]

I really liked the ones I listed

Goodbye south goodbye I saw most recently and liked the most

[modern lichen]

Yeah all of the ones you mentioned are really good

Goodbye South Goodbye is a good one but Flowers of Shanghai is the one I like the most out of his films

That opening sequence is great

[young compass]

I have a fetish for like

Listlessness

in media

Characters who don’t really know what to make of themselves/what they are

often this is done with coming of age but it’s just exclusively

goodbye did it as good as I’ve seen it

[modern lichen]

Yeah, I think Asian cinema understands that well enough than Hollywood

[young compass]

I’d say that it was a lot more popular in like

The 60s/70s in the west

There’s a few films that come to mind that nail it well

I think goodbye south ||really spoke to me because it didnt really resolve lol||

[tawny parcel]

Watched eternal sunshine of the spotless mind

Am I the 4 star goat

[white smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/d0in-d0intimes-gif-24692226

[modern lichen]

@primal mason sorry for being mean earlier today

[primal mason]

it

it's no problem. 😛

[modern lichen]

cool cool

[mighty schooner]

Seinfeld S7 E12 "The Caddy" ||if the glove won't fit you must acquit reference is CRAZY||

[primal mason]

Gonna watch High and Low

[naive juniper]

best comedy show imo

[rigid rock]

Smile 2 || I stg I saw the Voss water bottle more times than the jumpscares||

[knotty fox]

https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/nycc-2024-eddie-brock-carnage-series-character-design

[primal mason]

Finished High and Low ||Once it became a engaging thriller once it started the kidnapping conflict, I was really into how the investigative team and the shoe company guys would capture the criminal without giving in the money and saving the son, as it brought out some really human moments from characters that made me wanna follow their arcs closely. The movie then became a mystery with seemingly most of the investigative team finding a way to identify the criminal, of which had its own interesting introspection on the investigation team and how they went about concluding that the criminal should face higher punishment by letting him do the crime himself. Although the crimes the criminal did were definitely heinous, I did wonder how an entire team went about warranting the criminal with maximum punishment once he was caught in the act. It made me think about how skewed the Japanese system for crime punishment is on a deep level.||

||Although I did like most of the journey, I found the criminal himself to be disappointing. Though I was impressed on how the criminal got away with a flawless transaction, I found his motivations of doing these crimes rather disappointing. I'm not sure how to describe it exactly, but even though I could infer that the criminal definitely lived life in a skewed poor position to see how he came to be, I found him to be too "evil" for my liking. Based on his talk with the shoemaker, he didn't show any regret for his murders, kidnaps, and drugging, and not much was shown of his character to show a sympathetic side. It ultimately felt like the criminal only served as a plot device for the shoemaker to change for the better rather than the criminal being a character with intriguing depth and complexity. I left the movie feeling mixed, feeling that there's not much thought provoking stuff to be had in terms of parallels and character exploration for the criminal.||

||I liked the film overall, but I didn't like the end.||

Probably gonna see Harakiri later tonight.

[proud fiber]

I agree with most of it but i liked the end fine

||i dont think "evil" exists, he just made choices and was generally way out of his depth||

||to me it mostly just shows how the lower and upper classes can never really meet in the middle||

[primal mason]

Finished Harakiri ||Certainly an interesting film I liked. The story explores its themes and characters well through dialogue and flashbacks that it makes its built up exposure of the hypocritical nature of the Iyu clan very apparent and impactful. I liked the body language in the movie especially, where it says a lot negatively about the clan with how the Iyu samurai fight against Tsugumo rather clumsily and cowardly. The movie executed its premise well enough, though I personally felt I didn't get much value in watching it to say that it's one of the best films ever like what other people who praise it highly say.||

[modern lichen]

oh boy

[primal mason]

High and Low ||That's a good observation. Even today, there's still disputes between the upper and lower classes to this day because they live and think in completely different worlds. The way the shoemaker wanted to understand the criminal versus the criminal going asinine in their final talk said a lot about how these kinds of people will probably never come to agree with each other ever.||

[mild seal]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-breathe-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-5567600972171007330

[proud fiber]

Yeah, i mean its like the lady said in parasite, ||theres no way of telling if he's just "nice because hes rich"||

Anyway i could probably write a 6 page essay on harakiri

but suffice it to say it feels like watching every forgotten human struggle in a snow globe

just perfectly encapsulated

[primal mason]

you could write that much huh

[proud fiber]

||a struggle that is just erased from history||

[proud fiber]

im a yap machine

given the right conditions

[primal mason]

maybe I just don't know much Japanese history to gush that much

[proud fiber]

i dont really know that much about japanese history either, but the movie made me interested enough to watch the special features which explained some of the historical context

[modern lichen]

high and low ||the film is a commentary on the moral decay of contemporary japanese society at that time juxtaposed with race against time thriller structure, the guy who does the crime, the kidnapping is a man who is let down by the system deeply and who decides to take revenge on the first thing his eye catches, the rich folks living it up in a mansion up the hill, they didnt do anything to him, they are the encapsulation of the injustice he's facing and he decides to specifically take his revenge on them just for the sake of it, the reason the ending and reveal is genius is because it is a reflection of the sort of casual systemic injustice that comes through rigid cultural locks on systems that dont allow for mobility, its a deep moral rot all over that causes the events of the film||

high and low ||another amazing twist in the movie is the fact that the driver's son is kidnapped but mifune has the choice to either save that kid, who he treats as his own or let go in favor of his own son and it is in his character, his moral fiber to save him||

[primal mason]

i should go and do that too.

[modern lichen]

high and low ||the criminal doesnt have to have an extensive character arc for it to be a satisfactory finale for a great film||

[proud fiber]

||do you know if the pink smoke was in the original theatrical release?||

[modern lichen]

yeah

[proud fiber]

im sure theres a reason for it

its just kinda strange

[modern lichen]

high and low ||comes the exact moment we move from the high/heaven to low/hell||

high and low ||its exactly when they take notice of the low, the people who are living down below||

[primal mason]

high and low ||I'm not necessarily looking for an entire arc for the criminal, just a few notable brief scenes that would help me feel for the criminal a little more and understand why he is the way he is.||

[modern lichen]

[proud fiber]

hes characterized mostly by his surroundings

[modern lichen]

So you didn’t understand the film at all

It’s fine

[proud fiber]

the low rises, the crack den

[primal mason]

that doesn't do much for me then

[modern lichen]

High and Low || showing the criminal destroys the entire point of the film and makes it all less effective, you just didn’t get the intention or what Kurosawa was going for ||

[proud fiber]

hes being curt but yeah essentially

rashomon is probably the best example of how like, not my words but ||"there is no privileged moral vantage point with which to view things"||

[modern lichen]

High and Low || the criminal is someone who the “high” never acknowledged as being real, until reality hits them, while for the criminal, a medical intern living in poverty, they are stifling his reality and the sort of rejection he feels from the system makes him act ||

[proud fiber]

you see the film through the businessman's eyes and later the cops, its as simple as that

[primal mason]

High and Low ||Like I mean having those scenes at the very end, obviously the thriller part and the mystery of who he is has to stay in tact.||

[modern lichen]

No that would ruin the movie still

As Nikola said, it’s about the rug pull of perspective that makes the film so effective, what you suggested just deflates all of that

[primal mason]

i see. I just don't feel strongly of the movie's ending then.

[modern lichen]

Yeah because you kinda don’t get the film at all

Anyway

I’ll rewatch something tonight just to get that grind back on, I’m in a slump

[primal mason]

Not feeling strongly of the approach doesn't mean I didn't get what the general messages are. That's all I'll say. This was a nice discussion

[modern lichen]

No, I’d say you mischaracterized the entire film and its intention because of a false notion you held of the film and its ending but it’s fine, the general message is in the face, the nuance is in the details and execution, that you didn’t get

[primal mason]

got it

[modern lichen]

I’ll suggest just one thing

Keep an open eye for details and visual cues, films are shorter than anime and manga, a lot of storytelling done through the tools of cinema, visually and through sound, that you seem to be missing in nuance because of your general approach to the stuff you predominantly watch, I get that, but just change and refine the lens through which you watch and imbibe storytelling in other mediums

[proud fiber]

It varies in manga but generally the visual storytelling in manga is through character design and facial expression, mostly stuff on the surface. That's how a character's attributes are "sketched." In long serials there tends to be a focus on concrete world-building, too.

Whereas in film, more of the storytelling (especially older movies) is usually through blocking, framing and lighting and then the "look" of a character. And high and low is a masterclass in this, theres even an ign video on it.

[primal mason]

Gonna watch Yi Yi

[sage remnant]

@brave orbit do you have a good Szeth b&w image to use as wallpaper

[brave orbit]

Nop

[sage remnant]

Sed

[unkempt agate]

mighty nein || fjorjester live show in NY next year || @modern lichen

[modern lichen]

Yep

🙏

[unkempt agate]

might fuck around and go

[modern lichen]

Cool cool

[primal mason]

Gonna watch Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters

[fickle ember]

When you gonna watch some kdramas

[primal mason]

Not now at least

[drifting schooner]

The Penguin latest ep 5 || this is easily the worst episode in the show. It is strange how they thought the exchange scene was good and the officer failing to kill the family leader, LOL. ||

[fickle ember]

[white smelt]

Watch tattooed life

[primal mason]

Looks like it’s another movie not available for streaming

I’ll note it tho

[sonic quail]

Yea i kinda thought thr same

[hybrid perch]

Whats a good site for movies

[primal mason]

Netflix

[modern lichen]

https://x.com/discussingfilm/status/1848483889733636234?s=46

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

Christopher Nolan’s next movie is rumored to be a period horror about vampires in the 1920s.

Starring Tom Holland and Matt Damon.

(Source: https://t.co/aURUIG4kdn)

Twitter · Oct 21, 2024, 9:57 PM

[fickle ember]

They brought lowe to comic con to talk about Spider-Man and people boo’d him

[modern lichen]

Oh yeah I saw that

Apparently he was hostile from the get go

[cunning spruce]

Intriguing

[modern lichen]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1848436617188401652 LMFAOO

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

Sony asked Netflix if they wanted to buy ‘HAROLD & THE PURPLE CRAYON’ from them but Netflix didn’t want it.

(Source: https://t.co/WbSE2N0TgP)

Twitter · Oct 21, 2024, 6:50 PM

[wooden swift]

Mr Inbetween was excellent and I highly recommend it

@young compass your MIL was incorrect

[young compass]

Wouldn’t be the first time

[modern lichen]

I’m going to watch this show next, you recommended this already so I’m excited

[mild seal]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-gif-8554249452926903742

[near niche]

Just started watching Shameless,, I really hope nothing too traumatic happens to this already struggling family ☺️

[fair echo]

megalopolis ||probably the worst film of the year lmao||

||https://youtu.be/tNybhMsO5ew ||

megaflopolis

[fair echo]

@modern lichen @wooden swift @young compass have you seen this shit

im losing it

[modern lichen]

Yep

[primal mason]

I finished Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters last night ||Interesting film. I kinda enjoy how they dramatized a guy working so unnecessarily hard to build a coup against the government. He's essentailly so delulu and dedicated that he doesn't realize people of modern times don't actually wanna follow him. There was something of value to get from this film, as it reminds me and parallels so many canned media and big projects I saw in the entertainment industry I see that had so much of a grand vision that they realize there are no fans or audience that actually wants. Sometimes, you gotta take a step back and check to see with other people if what you're doing is gonna work. I know this film is more of an a guy's propaganda than anything, but this film was pretty tied to arts craftsmanship and had a very dedicated artist so... 😶 ||

I also finished Yi Yi ||I have no strong feelings towards this film to say much. Edward Yang's cinematography had once again somewhat interested me enough to follow and watch the cast's struggles in living life just like his previous film A Brighter Summer Day all the way to end, but I just wasn't as captivated with the characters. ||

Will be seeing Come and See before my Criterion sub expires. I heard this film is very good, but also traumatic. 🕵️

[modern lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/clonk-hooplah-brick-spongebob-noisy-gif-17264229

Yet again you didn’t understand the craft or thematic points of either of these movies lmao

[dim hedge]

Wild robot might be among the best i’ve seen all year

The wild robot || had me crying like 5 seperate times in the theatres, incredible experience ||

[unkempt agate]

as many times as me

[dim hedge]

[wooden swift]

Season 1 is very short, only 6 episodes, and is a bit...vanilla? In comparison, but is a great story by the time it's done, if basic. 2 and 3 are outstanding. The acting performances and suspense/tension/development throughout all three seasons sell it despite the shows general idea not necessarily being original

[regal root]

Weinstein apparently has bone cancer

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy

[primal mason]

Gonna see Come and See now

[mild seal]

I heard it's very painful

[regal root]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-glover-good-mad-angry-gif-11693108

[modern lichen]

I hope he dies soon

Soon here meaning suffering as long as possible

[primal mason]

Saw Come and See ||It was an experience. Thankfully, it wasn't as gorey as I was anticipated, but it's still was a very impactful story that had me glued on the protagonist's journey of being part of the war. The director and every single actor's performance sold the trauma that happened in World War II. It made for a movie that felt so authentic and real. The last shot where the protagonist shot a hitler frame so many times was a one of a kind, memorable scene. I liked it.||
If i can squeeze it in somehow before my sub expires, I only have Battle of Algiers and La haine to finish. Otherwise, I feel content.

[modern lichen]

https://fixupx.com/a24/status/1848710905867210759?s=46 a movie that looks this big was shot under 10 millions dollars, what an achievement

[tawny parcel]

It would be better if it had a 200 million dollar budget

[modern lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-s4-homelander-cough-disgust-gif-15540398707739933423

[tawny parcel]

Bigger budget always equals better product Hollywood taught me that lesson

Throwing money at the problems make them go away

[modern lichen]

Anyway

The movie looks fucking great, can’t wait to see how the Vistavision was integrated

[tawny parcel]

Jokes aside it does look good but what is a vistavision

[modern lichen]

It’s a format of film

Huge format

70mm

Well no it’s even higher quality 35mm film

[scenic galleon]

we've had some discussions back and forth at work whether or not 35mm or 70mm is the best way to see the film given how it was filmed, since Vistavision was modeled off of 35mm but projects larger in a way better suited for 70mm

my coworkers saw it in 35mm but we're trying for the 70mm print

[scenic galleon]

been doing a project where i watch the two most popular films each year on letterboxd that i haven't already seen

beginning the 50s tonight, will watch everything from Vertigo through Rebel Without a Cause and then the lowest ranking film I'll see is Touch of Evil

[wooden swift]

bonus, its one of those perfectly timed ones

26 episodes over 3 seasons

ends perfectly

doesnt drag on

leaves you wanting more, but also happy that it ended as it did

[leaden bramble]

Thats a really cool project, might do it myself someday lmao

[scenic galleon]

thanks, it's been pretty fun/enlightening, able to see a lot of classics i'd been putting off for ages as well as titles i had never heard of from earlier in the century

[arctic flax]

so what are the best,must-see shows of this year(excluding seasons)

i got shogun and penguin so far

[leaden bramble]

Was really surprised how much I liked the show "Dead Hot" on Tubi

[primal mason]

Aight, I was thankfully granted another 7-day free trial to try out Criterion Channel again. I would like recommendations there that isn't Akira Kurosawa. 👀

nor horror films too plz

[white smelt]

le samourai

[fickle ember]

Why don’t you go down letterbox’d top list

[primal mason]

no

i already done my part glancing at the list carefully once

[leaden bramble]

Dig around in the shit a little bit and watch Eating Raoul

[modern lichen]

i cant get that brutalist trailer out of my head, truly staggering images just from the trailer alone

[near echo]

You're probably gonna hate it but Zeman's The Fabulous Baron Munchausen is like one of my top ten favorite movies

[primal mason]

Noted

[near echo]

And Fantastic Planet is in my top 3

Pretty sure that's a permanent fixture of Criterion

[tawny parcel]

Watched smile

It aight

[primal mason]

Did you smile

[tawny parcel]

Eh

It had some decent scares

[modern lichen]

Severance S2 trailer || https://fixupx.com/discussingfilm/status/1849073520661209586?s=46 || we’re back like we never were

[sage remnant]

TV is back

[leaden bramble]

I was just about to cancel apple+ but maybe Ill hold off for a few more months

[primal mason]

Film list:
Woman in the Dunes
le samourai
Sansho the Balifff
Late Spring
The Human Condition I
The Human Condition II
The Human Condition III
Afterlife
Fabulous Baron Munchausen
Fantastic Plane
The worst person in the world
Autumn sonata
Gregg araki's teen apocalypse trilogy
Beyond the valley of the dolls
Original godzilla
Stalker
The ballad of narayama
Alphaville
All the Stan Brakhage stuff
The Great Dictator Koyaanisqatsi
In the Mood for Love
Ratcatcher
Floating Weeds
Hiroshima Mon Amour
8 1/2
Persona

Not seeing all of these, but these are on my radar now. Woman in the Dunes and Human Condition is top priority rn.

[modern lichen]

Goddamn it

All great stuff here I can’t deal with this shit

[leaden depot]

LMAO

[sage remnant]

Harsh when people have opinions differring from him...

[leaden bramble]

I should probably watch the Criterion stuff I physically own and have neglected to watch lmao

[modern lichen]

I’m fine with opinions but I can’t deal with Blue’s opinions on movies in particular even though I’ve sort of come to peace with it

[leaden bramble]

My shelf

[sage remnant]

From what I have seen, it just seems to me Blue is approaching movie with the lens he approaches anime and manga and that is leading to him missing most of the things

Which I thought would have improved till now tbf

[leaden bramble]

All the ones I have seen here should be on your list imo

[sage remnant]

@primal mason you should watch Godzilla Minus One and Shin Godzilla btw

[primal mason]

I’m slowly adapting to the moooovie structure thingy

[primal mason]

Already seen both, but I need to see minus one again

[sage remnant]

Oh nice

Did you enjoy them?

[primal mason]

I liked shin, but minus one, I fell asleep. Felt like I didn’t give it a fair shake

[signal lion]

What do you guys/gals think about the transformers one?

[leaden bramble]

I didnt love minus one as much as other people seemed to but I definitely stayed in the theater longer just to hear the Godzilla theme blare for just a little bit longer

[sage remnant]

I liked the thematic elements it explored a lot

[leaden bramble]

I havent found a Godzilla thats really topped the original movie to me, that one devastated me on first watch

[sage remnant]

Some of the actual plot decisions, which were very necessary for the themes of the movie, felt kinda contrived

Godzilla Minus One || His wife surviving for one. It is very necessary but again kinda underwhelming ||

[leaden bramble]

At the very least it looked and sounded very nice and the characters were fun for the most part

Good time at tha movies

[sage remnant]

I love it a lot cuz the positives outweighed the negatives

[leaden bramble]

Just went back and read my review and I still agree with it for the most part lol

Minus One spoilers || My ★★★★ review of Godzilla Minus One on Letterboxd https://boxd.it/5j1KA3 ||

[unkempt agate]

last three TLOVM episodes tomorrow

[scenic galleon]

Koyaanisqatsi is one of, if not my favorite films

used to have it on my nametag at my last job

[primal mason]

Noted

[young compass]

Did you watch Algiers?

[primal mason]

I’m watching it rn

[modern lichen]

oh brother

its a great film

[primal mason]

🤔

🙂

[brave orbit]

@undone junco brother

[undone junco]

oh yea I did finish it

thought it was the best stuff from this era so far actually, minus maybe the Tesla episode

the flux arc i mean, I'm not at the specials yet

[brave orbit]

Nice

[undone junco]

Dr Who s13 || It was actually very neatly plotted, the first episode introduced a ton of elements to the story and I thought it'd be something overly ambitious but bad but I liked it. Only thing I had an issue with was the Tecteun death, just very random and sudden for a character as important as that, not sure how things are going to be resolved in regards to her now, but we'll see I guess.||

[brave orbit]

Ahah

😅

[undone junco]

oh yea I had a question

Dr who s13 ||Claire is 1000% supposed to be a reference to Clara right? That never really went anywhere but I thought there was going to be something to it beyond just her name being Clara in French lol||

Dr Who S13 ||I thought she'd be like a descendant somehow, like that one time traveler that looked like Danny Pink was implied to be in "Listen"||

idk thats still bugging me, maybe theres something later about it

[brave orbit]

I have no clue

[undone junco]

dr who s13 ||she even says that she's just going home the long way around in her first appearance, which is ofc a Heaven Sent/Hell Bent reference, but it just never goes anywhere||

[worthy crypt]

i didnt pick up on anything but it woulda been years inbetween for me

[unkempt agate]

SCRAP THAT
SEASON 4 CONFIRMED

[primal mason]

Found a few of the planned Criterion movies on YouTube, will watch them before subbing. 👀

[scenic galleon]

it's down atm but archive.org is another good source to find a reasonable amount of criterion releases for free online

[primal mason]

I wonder how that’s allowed tbh

[scenic galleon]

[primal mason]

They got the criterion service for a reason

[naive socket]

Anyone been watching High Potential

[primal mason]

I think I’m gonna see Woman in the Dunes next. Kojima recommended the book version of this from way back in his biography book, and it turns out to be a movie too. So I might as well see it. 50/50 chance I may or may not dislike it

[sage remnant]

OB reread

We are so back

[young compass]

So you didn’t like it?

[primal mason]

Will share thoughts later

[young compass]

If you’re going to attempt a character analysis of it, you probably looked for the wrong things

[primal mason]

[sage remnant]

OB reread ch 96 || Each of Dalinar flashbacks just ends up being more painful.

And then we get a Kaladin chapter ||

[worthy crypt]

Southern Reach 4, Absolution (first book Annihilation), just came out yesterday. probably gonna check that out after 3 body book 3

[sage remnant]

Had you watched the movie?

For Annihilation

[leaden bramble]

Criterion's main draw is less having access to movies and more providing great resources to get further into the weeds on the films as well as increasing availability for stuff that may not have come to the US or was stuck on like dvd

[leaden bramble]

I am! Its fun so far

[primal mason]

How many ppl these days start delving into older cinema to be a fanatic

Aside from me

[leaden bramble]

Lots of people!

[primal mason]

Surprising

Would that happen to be lots of zoomers

[scenic galleon]

yeah

it's easier than ever to gain access to the ocean of films that have been released

[primal mason]

Fair

[scenic galleon]

lots of films that were previously considered lost have been discovered, restored and are just sitting online in various places you can see them for free

[primal mason]

I was under the assumption kids/teens these days would consider it a old fad or something

Feels like most are into those online shows like helluva boss, hazbin hotel, the circus show

[worthy crypt]

yeah I thought the movie was pretty good. The books a bit better, creepier, but movie is a solid watch definitely worth the time investment

[naive socket]

The new episode was 🤯

[leaden bramble]

Im a week behind lol

Good to know I have something to look forward to though!

[leaden bramble]

I think youre thinking of 11 year olds lol

[worthy crypt]

i never heard of any of those shows but im an old man in the context of this discord

[primal mason]

Finished Battle of Algiers and Woman in the Dunes

Battle of Algiers ||Yeah, I suppose that was a film that displayed the tragic events in history with great cinematography. Not much to say, but I will note how interesting it was how far the Ali La Pointe would go to do literal terrorism to do a revolution against the police. ||

Woman in the Dunes ||This was a decent film I’m mixed on. Even with its spectacular, cinematography.I felt it’s focus on displaying desperate struggles of the explorer and woman went on for way too long, and it wasn’t until the second half that I felt there were some semblances of interesting relationship dynamics developing that would get me to care about their troubles and eventual triumphs.||

[proud fiber]

bro hide from harsh

it's worth noting that the enemy is not simply "the police" its an entire colonial state completely subjugating another

the uncomfortable truth its getting at is that "the algerian question" had to be sustained by shocking headlines only made possible by, as you stated, terrorism

[primal mason]

Yea
I jumped in Algiers without much historical context

[proud fiber]

The situation is like palestine but without 2,000+ years of history

So, simpler basically

[primal mason]

Ahhh

[proud fiber]

one piece does a good job of abstracting these kinds of issues but the literal facts do sort of matter here

But again like ABSD, i learned most of this thru the criterion special features after the film

and wikipedia

[primal mason]

I will note looking into the behind the scenes

[proud fiber]

Yea id highly recommend, it was interesting

It was interesting to note that the director was a Jew from Italy, who fled Italy and went to Paris, and then made basically an expose on France's treatment of Algeria

[leaden bramble]

Yeah Criterions special features are always incredible

[primal mason]

Two films I seen that involve France being bad to others

[proud fiber]

what was the other, paths of glory?

[primal mason]

La Haine

[proud fiber]

i havent gotten to that one yet

[tawny parcel]

Thinking more about it, Smile|| I can’t decide whether Smiles ending is a slap in the face or great||

Smile ||it was something i didn’t give much thought after ending the movie but ||

[outer tulip]

got ticket for anora this weekend

better be good

[raw gate]

In the mood to watch a trilogy

[raw gate]

Godfather it is.

[arctic flax]

i still need to watch 3 lmao. 2 was a good enough stopping point to me when i watched back in 2022

the 2 movies rly lived up to my expectations

[young compass]

This might be your worst read of all time, even assuming you knew nothing of the context beforehand

I recommend you look into it like Nikola said

[primal mason]

that's the plan

[modern lichen]

i'm crying laughing

"history sure has some bad things huh?" ass review lmfao

[white smelt]

I can’t defend you anymore blue

[near echo]

Blue i support your journey even if the rest of the world turns against you

[fickle ember]

The day bon turns on you, it really will be over for blue

[modern lichen]

watch blue give lightyear 5 stars

that is the day bon will turn

[fickle ember]

[primal mason]

it's ok, i'm learning as i go

[primal mason]

this film journey is starting to feel exciting for me

[white smelt]

Blue the cinephile

[modern lichen]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1849175008960033059

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

‘VENOM: THE LAST DANCE’ debuts with 37% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Read our review: https://t.co/LpBGLQisp5

Twitter · Oct 23, 2024, 7:44 PM

[mild seal]

https://tenor.com/view/segundo-sol-novela-remy-vladimir-brichta-chocado-gif-12304506

[primal mason]

finding the rare diamonds that I can resonate with like Ikiru and Shawshank has made watching movies more fun.

[modern lichen]

lmfao

glad to hear that actually

i am watching venom 3 in the theatre with my friends

[primal mason]

||diamonds like five nights at freddy's||

[arctic flax]

wouldnt have known this shit came out till this post lol. checked out of this franchise after the first movie

[primal mason]

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-dipsy-running-away-scared-run-away-gif-25928776

[white smelt]

lol

Such refined tastes

[near echo]

Im glad this is the hill ive chosen to die on

I feel like theres much worse ones

[primal mason]

i have zero plans to see lightyear

the murmurings i heard tell me it's a failed attempt at making a serious story

it's like that 2016 ghostbusters reboot

[mild seal]

2016 ghostbusters wasn't a serious story

[primal mason]

just similar in a failed reboot

[mild seal]

ahh

ok

[white smelt]

Ghostbusters isn’t a serious story either

Like any in the franchise

[primal mason]

i still need to see afterlife and frozen empire

[mild seal]

ghostbusters ||the first movie is about 3 people opening up a business and the government trying to shut them down||

[fickle ember]

I’ll have you know that the tmnt ghostbusters crossover is pretty serious

[modern lichen]

afterlife is fun

frozen empire is boring

[primal mason]

i don't like that the main actors don't acknowledge 2's existence, the movie is good

[modern lichen]

ghostbusters inherently is a very unserious franchise

they're comedy films

[primal mason]

it's a small pet peeve

[modern lichen]

the original was just a sardonic new york comedy with fantasy elements

[near echo]

i want a tragic, deeply serious character study and prequel about Slimer

Like the first Joker

[primal mason]

should've said gollum smh

[modern lichen]

Gollum is getting a movie

Called “Hunt for Gollum”

[mild seal]

because the gollum video game did so well

[near echo]

Gollum won the argument

[modern lichen]

Directed by Andy Serkis, which I’m not super happy about given his directorial track record

[sage sleet]

team what's the new fmovies and kimcartoon

[vast root]

starting twin peaks

[eager agate]

37% is insane

could Joker 2 have competition 🤔

[young compass]

No

All three venom films were panned

Prior two still sold

[tawny parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

Venom 3 ||venom horse||

https://tenor.com/view/venom-venom-the-last-dance-venom-3-venom-movie-gif-14685869785012490935

[leaden bramble]

I love Venom hes a cool guy

[raw gate]

Finishing my Godfather Trilogy rewatch later today.

Apu Trilogy is next

[unkempt agate]

@modern lichen hmu when you watch the new eps

[brave orbit]

@undone junco

[undone junco]

hi

I've only watched Eve of the Daleks yet, it was actually excellent

[sage remnant]

OB reread || Man these subtle maneuvers that Brandon is making Taravangian do which so looks like he's fully supporting coalition and thinking for the world, and while he is doing that for the most part, all of his actions are so properly placing him as the perfect next option if Dalinar led coalition fails ||

It's so well done

[brave orbit]

Same

Wait..

You have legend of the sea devils next

Oh god

[undone junco]

Dr Who s13-specials || the amount of dialogue and banter during some very brief spans of time did get ridiculous and required me to suspend my disbelief a lot, but it was all well written and charming so it was all good. The Yaz/Thirteen romantic angle that had been getting teased for a while is finally properly starting to get explored here, wish they had more time for that though but will see how it plays out. ||

[undone junco]

wdym

[brave orbit]

Did you watch this

Uh

[undone junco]

not yet

[brave orbit]

This

[undone junco]

yea not yet

[brave orbit]

Skip it

[undone junco]

i thought it was going to be like the part one to the finale 😭

[brave orbit]

No...

Its legit shit and even chibnall had to come out and say it 😭

Production and editing issues

[undone junco]

LMFAO was it because of Covid or what?

[brave orbit]

Partly also

I think he had to rush out a draft

[sage remnant]

Shut up about doctor mid fed. We got a new peak incoming

https://vxtwitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1827001325978059054

[brave orbit]

But hey, sea devils are getting a spinoff next year

[undone junco]

ahh

I'll still watch it, I watched everything lol

even that orphan 66 or whatever it was

[brave orbit]

[brave orbit]

Wasnt that shit

[undone junco]

it was terrible

[brave orbit]

I havent watched so

[sage remnant]

You could have just skipped entirety of Chibnail Arsal

Saved yourself

[brave orbit]

Cap

[sage remnant]

And then continue with RTD2

[undone junco]

but I still watched it, I'm sure this is better too

hey I liked flux

and the tesla episode

and the village of diodati

[sage remnant]

Some slightly good eps don't make up for dozen of less than shit

[brave orbit]

The horrible eps are like 1/15s of them

[undone junco]

there's something good here and there its fine, I wanted to see how it was anyways

there are very few horrible episodes, the usual is just unbelievably mid

[brave orbit]

Most are either average or fun or good

Yea

[sage remnant]

I just remember it being a chore

Something current me would have easily skipped

[brave orbit]

Cant wait for you to watch power of the doctor

https://tenor.com/view/yelling-rasputin-the-kings-man-shouting-rage-gif-22921685

[sage remnant]

Also Arsal start Stormlight after catching up to DW

Cleanse mid with peak

[undone junco]

I was gonna watch The Bear, been hearing great things about it!

stormlight would take far too long

[sage remnant]

Smh

[undone junco]

season 11 in particular was

aside from demons in punjab

it was all very filler-y and extremely mediocre

oh and I hated the Rosa parks episode because they didn't handle that properly at all

season 12 was better, season 13 I wouldn't call a chore at all

but yea, its definitely been a major downgrade over everything that came before it but there's been good stuff here and I'm not mad that I watched it lol

[modern lichen]

@fickle ember absolute wonder woman issue 1 was fucking dope

[shrewd sigil]

official arcane merch releasing with major spoilers for season 2

incredible moves by the marketing team

[scenic galleon]

original film is very good, and with schur adapting this might be a rare netflix series i actually watch when it releases and not several years later

[mild seal]

I was excited until you said Netflix series, now it's gonna get cancelled after 1 season

[fickle ember]

good to know, might start absolutes soon…

[primal mason]

[fickle ember]

[primal mason]

weeb

[modern lichen]

absolute wonder woman issue 1 ||the art and panelling is so good||

[earnest plover]

Pearl ||that monologue scene was so good.||

[primal mason]

https://vxtwitter.com/toonhive/status/1848877220984660450?s=46&t=lt96tnL-KevDqAbpgE7qDA

[unkempt agate]

Chick-Fil-A's original... animated series...

[tawny parcel]

WE WILL ALL BE THERE DAY 1

GOD BLESS CHICK FIL A AND THE SPICY CHICKEN BURGER

[near echo]

Is the show unavailable for streaming on Sundays

[hazy radish]

Waiting for it to come to England

2025

https://tenor.com/view/cant-wait-excited-interview-gif-14889494

[primal mason]

https://vxtwitter.com/spotakemaru/status/1849517688395080052

[white smelt]

It is

[fresh umbra]

Yakuza sucks apparently

Sad

I wanted to watch it but I guess I won’t now

[raw gate]

The Godfather, Part II 🔄

|| If someone told me as a young teen that, out of everything I would ever go on to experience, a film about organized crime would be the most depressing and deeply affecting on a personal and emotional level to me, I’d have laughed about it. Yet here we are. What else is there to say about this duo of films that hasn’t already been said?

Michael Corleone’s quest for normalcy and individualism disrupted by the tragedy of succession. Turned into a ruthless and cold leader, marking both his rise to power and his failure as a family-man while attempting solely to protect his loved ones. It’s one of the greatest and most poignant character arcs put to the silver screen. The true tragedy of Michael Corleone. A forlorn figure of despair ||

[drowsy knot]

The Bear S1 end ||rewatching ep1 and realized Carmie threw a few grand of canned tomatoes into the trash ||

[mild seal]

the bear s1 end ||I don't think they would have been good after being opened and having money inside them lol||

[jovial pelican]

well said

[tawny parcel]

Doctor put me to sleep

Just watched it

Nonsensical dogshit film

[modern lichen]

doctor sleep is good

[tawny parcel]

I’ll write about it when I get the chance but I do not like it at all lol

[sonic tree]

Yeah that's how alot of surgeries work dw

[pure spoke]

skibidi toilet

[tawny parcel]

Doctor sleep|| holy shit what a boring first hour and a half that could have been put into like 45 minutes to an hour, they have an interesting idea here but its just nothingggggg. there are a couple good scenes in this, predominantly the one with Danny in the bar talking to Jack/Loid whatever you wanna call him and that conversation but then the rest of the back end is just “oh my god remember the shining? Oh my god! Look! Its the maze from the shining! Oh my god! Look! Danny is doing the walk like his father did! Oh my god! Look! The axe dent, lets replay the original film in this moment so that people know that this IS the axe dent where Jack indeed says HERES JOHNNY!” ||

Doctor sleep ||it’s its own dogshit thing for its first hour and a half but then just starts going to kubrickville out of nowhere. Its the cinematography
of the beginning! Its the music! Omg the ending plays the same music! It feels so damn incessant even for a sequel to a beloved ip||

Doctor sleep|| i also think the tension does not work very well in this movie lol||

This movie just made me so upset idk why

And the writing legitimately had mcu level dialogue at points

I feel like a crazy person because this movie has a positive reception and I’m not trying to hate i genuinely can not understand why

I would love to hear peoples thoughts on this if they like it and why

[modern lichen]

LMFAO

[pure spoke]

lo,kw

[tawny parcel]

I am genuinely curious why you like it though, ranting aside

[white smelt]

You’re right, wombat

You can’t say it because of woke though

[modern lichen]

no i think its like not great but it is good enough

it has its fair share of problems but at a first glance your critique was like.. very funny lol

[tawny parcel]

Doctor sleep ||bro one of the parts that pisses me off is when fucking isn mcgregor says “no dont call the cops they’re rich and powerful” FUCKER THEY LIVE IN RVS AND YOUR PLAN IS TO SHOOT THEM WITH JUST YOU AND YOUR BEST FRIEND ANYWAYS THATS WHAT COPS DO WHY DIDNT YOU CALL THEM. He made her dad die ||

Doctor sleep ||you can not say that “cops wouldn’t help” when your only goal is to fucking shoot them||

[naive socket]

Georgie and Mandy is a pretty good spin off. I’m liking it so far.

[modern lichen]

@wooden swift watched the first 2 eps of mr inbetween, pretty good

[scenic galleon]

@tawny parcel did you watch the director's cut of Doctor Sleep? i've heard that it's superior and fixes a lot of the weaknesses of the theatrical release

[leaden bramble]

I havent seen Doctor Sleep but I felt the exact same way about Wonka lmao

[modern lichen]

https://x.com/the_moviebob/status/1849616163057053974 LMFAO

Bob Chipman 😁 bobchipman.bsky.social (@the_moviebob) on X

HOLY F---ING SH-- THIS IS REAL I THOUGHT THIS WAS A JOKE BUT IT'S REAL THIS IS A REAL MOVIE ABOUT JESUS CHRIST TRAINING A GUY TO DO MMA IN ANCIENT JERUSALEM HOLY WTF 👀

Twitter · Oct 25, 2024, 12:57 AM

[primal mason]

Is this from the author of shining

[mild seal]

Yes

Doctor sleep is the sequel

[leaden bramble]

This looks sick as fuck

I hope jesus puts him in a lions den and he has to punch lions

[tawny parcel]

I am not sure, i just watched the version on hbo max

[scenic galleon]

was it just over 3 hours in length?

[tawny parcel]

Nah like 2 and a half hours

[tawny parcel]

It’s not directed by the same guy but yes it’s a sequel

And a shit one at that

[mild seal]

well stephen king hated the shining movie

not saying the movie is bad, just that the author didn't like it

[scenic galleon]

ah that's the theatrical cut then

what i've heard is that the extra half hour in the director's cut does a better job at bridging the gap between the book and the film for The Shining

[tawny parcel]

I was just so shocked to see the positive reception to the movie

I’m not like a devout shining fan i only watched it for the first time like a week or two ago

[scenic galleon]

from my POV since it came out, the film is divisive overall, leaning only slightly positive

[tawny parcel]

The shining film/book ||https://www.sensesofcinema.com/2020/the-shining-at-40/king-vs-kubrick-the-origins-of-evil/ ||

I started reading this but i didnt get a chance to finish it

[leaden bramble]

I havent read much of Kings books but I feel like he pretty notoriously has bad taste in movies lol

[tawny parcel]

It just sounds like Stephen King just didn’t pay attention

The shining ||“yet in The Shining there is “no sense of emotional investment in the family whatsoever.”14 “Kubrick’s direction is good, but it’s heartless.”15 “What’s basically wrong with Kubrick’s version of The Shining,” King explained, “is that it’s a film by a man who thinks too much and feels too little.||

[scenic galleon]

The Shining film/book: The most succinct explanation of why King hates the film is that the book as he wrote it is about ||the horrors of being an alcoholic||, while the film is about ||the horrors of living with one|| and given the extremely personal nature of the subject matter for the book, King has therefore always hated the film because of how it flips the script

[tawny parcel]

I also dislike doctor sleep because it actively makes the shining worse imo

[vast root]

The shining is on the lower end of my Kubrick tier list tbh

[jovial pelican]

I'm listening...

[tawny parcel]

I thought the shining was incredible just an eensy bit slow but that feels a little nitpicky

It’s something that doesn’t really bother me

[mild seal]

dude imagine saying that the author didn't get it

like what

[tawny parcel]

the shining ||nah not to be that guy but there def is an investment in the family, i feel saying that much is disingenious ||

[bold sparrow]

and once again another writer has abandoned Star Wars

It's insane how we just aren't getting any Star Wars movies anymore because people keep dropping out

Its so cooked

and the only actual movie we are getting is a continuation of a tv show 🤣

[brave orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[primal mason]

I'm in the mood to watch the movie Stalker. I'll do that today.

[primal mason]

https://x.com/ToonHive/status/1849953445815464194

ToonHive (@ToonHive) on X

‘Pantheon’ will stream on Netflix US on November 22nd.

Twitter · Oct 25, 2024, 11:17 PM

i can finally watch this show legally

[fickle ember]

Never heard of it

[primal mason]

it's a very good western cartoon apparently

[maiden maple]

KAI ON TOP

[frank rivet]

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1849577878410723710

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) on X

Disney will reportedly announce a huge AI initiative that will “transform its creative output” with a focus on post-production and visual effects.

AI will also be integrated into Disney’s parks & experiences business in some way.

(Source: https://t.co/2MQce4xy7i)

Twitter · Oct 24, 2024, 10:25 PM

booo

[dim hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[drifting schooner]

I disliked the ending a lot

[vast root]

should i read the novels for twin peaks?

[modern lichen]

nah

i think the show, fire walk with me and the return is enough

[vast root]

Icic

[arctic flax]

never read but it has extra lore from what i heard

og series, fire walk with me and return are enough

watch in that order

[vast root]

i think im just gonna read the secret diary of laura palmer since a friend recommended it to me

[modern lichen]

yeah that works

[radiant ibex]

Just read the hobbit and it was peak

Reading the fellowship of the ring and it is ASS

How the fuck is this pacing worse then one piece

Spoilers for fellowship of the ring ||Spent over 250 pages just to START their journey to destroy the ring||

I’m sure it gets better

But I hope it happens soon

[primal mason]

wild take 😮

i like

[leaden bramble]

Lmao I started Fellowship and was like "Oh Wow Tolkien has really improved his writing in between this and Hobbit!"

All the set up is the best part

[shrewd sigil]

☹️

the start of the fellowship of the ring was arguably my favorite part of the whole trilogy

[sage remnant]

It's great even in the movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30b7_S0paCQ
Easily one of the best music ever made

[leaden bramble]

I enjoyed it so much I doodled this on a phone notetaking app when I was reading it lol

[shrewd sigil]

Arcane S2/League MV ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXwoeXetD4A||

[gilded dew]

The boys, no specific season or episode, i just wanted to say that i think media literacy amongst consumers is dead

[primal mason]

Finished Stalker this morning ||I can say at the least, the cinematography of this film is spectacular and is such a uniquely mesmerizing vibe. The way its story was told and filmed brought out feelings of existentialism from both me and the three main characters that made the journey of the cast getting to the Zone enjoyable. I liked this movie quite a bit, though not to a point where I feel encouraged to make my own interpretation of what the story means. Its overall execution is way too vague for my tastes to delve and analyze that deeply personally.||

[modern lichen]

expected this

[primal mason]

I'm gonna see Sansho the Bailiff next.

[modern lichen]

mizoguchi is not an easy watch either especially for you, but sansho is a great film

[ivory orbit]

i dont rlly see anything wrong with what they’re saying tbh

[sage remnant]

Why do you think Media Literacy is dead from this post

[white smelt]

Blue, I hated stalker

[wooden swift]

@modern lichen how's Mr Inbetween

[young compass]

you would like solaris more

[wooden swift]

Been wanting to watch that one

Soviet era film fascinates me

[scenic galleon]

i need to watch the remake

[young compass]

it's not great

[modern lichen]

very good

i finished season 1

excellent TV

[primal mason]

Noted

[primal mason]

gonna watch Sansho the Bailiff

[young compass]

if anything, you should check out the book

it tells an equally interesting story with a different appeal

the remake kind of tried to be more faithful to it? but also not

it's a mess

[young compass]

check out andrei rublev, very divisive film I think

[modern lichen]

the movie tries to hollywood-ify the novel and the movie

[wooden swift]

I've seen bits of that one

[modern lichen]

andrei rublev is so good

[wooden swift]

Rublev is a big thing for my dad as he's huge into orthodox iconography

So we went into the film expecting something a bit different lol

[modern lichen]

very quiet and contemplative film

[scenic galleon]

i've heard some people argue that the remake is better than the original so its always made me curious

also i can believe it might be true since soderbergh did it

[young compass]

honestly have never seen that

[modern lichen]

which one

[young compass]

solaris

like, ive never seen people argue the remake is better

[modern lichen]

no one does yeah

[young compass]

maybe if you're a big Soderbergh fan

[modern lichen]

like, solaris came out of a response to the sci-fi stylism of 2001, which tarkovsky hated lmao

i dont agree with tarkovsky because i think 2001 is genuinely one of the best films ever made but like, i dont blame the guy, he has different sensibilities to kubrick

[young compass]

the author of the original book kind of hated the movie

as he felt tarkovsky twisted it into a completely different story

which he kind of did

[modern lichen]

its the shining situation yeah lol, ironically enough involving kubrick yet again

[young compass]

ive always felt stephen king was like

super off-base about his shining movie complaints

[modern lichen]

the book i feel is a bit too melodramatic and overt

[young compass]

ive never even read the book

[modern lichen]

its an ok read but its not the best king work by any margin, less direct scares but more adjacent to melodramatic with horror sprinkled throughout

[young compass]

but king's whole thing was that he thought (shining)||jack was too obviously nutso from when you first see him in the movie, and that the book was more about easing his madness in. But like... from what I've read from others the book isn't really like that at all, and the movie making it clear that jack is leaning towards insanity just serves the tension anyways.||

yeah i dont really like king very much

i read the longest walk a long time ago and thought it was like

a very silly book

[modern lichen]

the longest walk is very silly

[young compass]

11/22/63 is kind of like billy bat a bit

[modern lichen]

i love that one

i think my favorite has to be ironically enough, a short story

the jaunt

really fun story that i felt was genuinely chilling in its thematic tone and resolution

[modern lichen]

the one problem with the book, the shining ||king tries to give jack a sob story, makes him a possessed puppet due to the abuse he faced which he further perpetuates on danny but then at the end gives him this big sacrificial moment, which to me was very silly||

one thing that's funny to me is how much king seethes still about the movie

he even has like a veiled reference to it in "the outsider" where he refers to how bad the adaptation of shining was

[worthy crypt]

Shining book || doesn't it lean into the psychic shining stuff more? Or am I thinking of something else ||

[modern lichen]

shining book ||yeah, leans more into the actual psychic shit but also has some really goofy stuff as well||

[worthy crypt]

Shining movie || psychic stuff always felt extra to me, story of just a dude going mad alone in a hotel is pretty complete on its own imo ||