vc-manga

[high widget]

Here

[small root]

apparenbtly something was lost in translation with that kaid quote in the official

[high widget]

Yh earl

[lone merlin]

Kaido's depression is being cured

[misty wigeon]

yeah i can't imagine that the line has any real importance

[high widget]

Apparently he was supposed to repeat it

[lone merlin]

He's falling for luffy

[high widget]

But instead it seems like he omitted something

[lone merlin]

Classic therapist tale

[small root]

IF it is about D's, it may be a general statement about D's, the D's smile when they die so maybe kaido thinks hes about to kill him

[cunning ingot]

same

[safe lion]

In a 1v1 who would win kizaru or usopp?

[jaunty pelican]

black beard is a d and he wasnt smiling at death

[safe lion]

Usopp solos dbz

[surreal yoke]

to me just shows Kaido acknowledging Luffy

[serene condor]

Kaido is finally having fun after fighting so many weak opponents

[jaunty pelican]

near death

[lone merlin]

Also, on this note, Doflamingo's Jolly Roger really looked like a sideways D being slashed didn't it?

[jaunty pelican]

is blackbeard fake d?

[high widget]

Maybe but

[misty wigeon]

i love watching luffy have fun with the fight

[small root]

i like that symbol because you could take it to mean several things at once

[misty wigeon]

while his friends are getting their shit kicked in

[safe lion]

Do you think bb is three people?

There are so many FUCKING THEORIES

[vocal echo]

Loving their relationship

[misty wigeon]

three children in a trenchcoat

to be specific

[safe lion]

Honestly

[jaunty pelican]

i think he has 3 diff persononalities

[safe lion]

I think bb right

[high widget]

Kid and luffy¿

[surreal yoke]

And he's like studying Luffy's moves and fighting style

[vocal echo]

yeah good rivalry

[lone merlin]

It's just like Chief Justice Baskerville

[safe lion]

Made a quite literal deal with the devil to obtain like “three bodies”

[vocal echo]

also

[safe lion]

I think bb did

[vocal echo]

kaido and luffy, the aspect there is great

[high widget]

Yh in a way

[safe lion]

And have all “three bodies” in one body

[misty wigeon]

if there's any mention of multiple personalities for bb getting 2 DF I will be sad

[vocal echo]

both truly enjoying the fight in the same way

[safe lion]

Who would win luffy or bb?

Oh wait

What if zoro and luffy both fought bb?

[serene condor]

lol what?

[misty wigeon]

i think zoro would be a great match up for bb

since he isn't a DF user

[vocal echo]

Should probably keep the convo relevant to 1011 here

[safe lion]

Or like zoro,sanji and luffy fought black beard in like a 3v1?

[safe lion]

True

Ok

Sorry

[lone merlin]

Umm there's more to BB than nullifying dfs

[vocal echo]

all good, manga would enjoy that topic though

[safe lion]

[timber jolt]

It’s moreso Kid trying to just stall BM as much as possible so that she can’t join Kaido again

[high widget]

He could still get sucked into a black hole and he doesn’t have ACoA so he wouldn’t be able to stop a quake

[vast latch]

I agree with Rob

[ocean acorn]

What’s going on

[vast latch]

But I mean I am pretty sure Kaido+BM alliance is gonna be pretty much dead on arrival

[ocean acorn]

Hi sab

[vast latch]

Hola Hypno

[jaunty pelican]

i cant wait for after wano with sabo

[surreal yoke]

Yamato

[high widget]

Yh Bobby

[small root]

im with red, he cant maintain it , even tho he hasnt gone in g4 yet

[high widget]

I think CoC is the same

But

It’s possible it’s different

Since we don’t see the top tiers

Spam it

[ocean acorn]

I’m lost

[surreal yoke]

yeah Yamato

[high widget]

No Yamato Evan

[vast latch]

Hypno, we are listening to the One Piece 1011 discussion

[small root]

if conquerors haki is connected to your own fighting spirit itself, i think it may have its own seperate haki pool away from armament and observation haki, in terms of conserving haki and what not

[ocean acorn]

I came late

[high widget]

Maybe earl

[ocean acorn]

[vast latch]

No worries

Booooo

[misty wigeon]

yeah. Ifeel like luffy's conqueror would be limitless or something

[vast latch]

I came here for Adam’s explanation

[high widget]

Same

[small root]

almost limitless id say ye

[whole mantle]

Kid also took a big-ass punch to the face from Big Mom

[ocean acorn]

Indras arrow

[timber jolt]

Just a regular punch from BM

[finite notch]

Was it coated

[surreal yoke]

[finite notch]

Just a normal BM punch

[timber jolt]

It wasn’t like, COC infused or even with armament iirc

[small root]

bare naked punched

[surreal yoke]

He was fine

[ocean acorn]

Kid > elbef bear

[small root]

those bare naked punches down bears tho :3

[whole mantle]

"Just" a normal BM punch is still enough for two or three of them to take down Queen, from what we saw before. Lol

[small root]

@rough flint its luffy

[whole mantle]

Like Big Mom is just a monster, even without Haki she can three-shot a Beast Commander

[surreal yoke]

It's Drake or Law

[timber jolt]

It’s Drake. It’s irony

[high widget]

It’s kid lol

[finite notch]

What is the context of the percents here?

Percent chance of what

[whole mantle]

Hawkins estimating people's chances of survival

[high widget]

Of survival

[dry wagon]

survivng

[finite notch]

Ok

[jaunty pelican]

what do u huyg think about blackbeard not smiling when he was about to die to whitebeard but the people of d usually smile at death

[whole mantle]

and his latest prediction was about "That man," he didn't say who

[jaunty pelican]

do u guys think he is a fake d

[small root]

when hawkins said a certain persons percentage of survival of this night was 1% when he was talking to drake but he wouldnt say the name right away

[high widget]

Nah

[jaunty pelican]

then why did he not smile

[whole mantle]

we're talking about 1011 here, right? Didn't we agree that topics like that should go in the #manga room?

[high widget]

Luffy was going to die to Magellan

He didn’t smile

[vast latch]

Mhm let’s try to keep it to 1011 here

[whole mantle]

Hawkins is a scrub, lmfaooooo

[high widget]

I think the smiling thing is overplayed
Okay Sab

[vast latch]

#manga is great for other topics though

[ocean acorn]

I like Hawkins

[jaunty pelican]

alr then what about zoro do u guys think he will get healed from marco

[ocean acorn]

[hallow socket]

bro whats happening

[jaunty pelican]

and come back in 1012

[vast latch]

I don’t think so

[high widget]

Maybe the heart is for the limit breaker

[tender lake]

maybe a few chapters later

[hallow socket]

i just started wano

[jaunty pelican]

or like zoro will fight king or queen

[vast latch]

I think Zoro is out of the fight at least with Kaido

[surreal yoke]

for sure

[vast latch]

Idk where he goes from there but

[jaunty pelican]

ye with kaido obv

[ocean acorn]

I want Hawkins to defeat killer

[surreal yoke]

The Kaido fight is probably going to just be Luffy and Yamato comes up later

[hallow socket]

this guys voice is sex

[jaunty pelican]

but i am saying maybe he will fight someone else

[hallow socket]

sexy

[whole mantle]

Adam is right, Hawkins will look like an idiot if none of his high-probability predictions come true, lol

[ocean acorn]

[small root]

hawkins percentages suck ass

lmao

[whole mantle]

yeah exactly, Hawkins truly will be a scrub if none of his predictions ever come true

[high widget]

Yh I get

[vast latch]

As if he wasn’t ever a scrub

[high widget]

Maybe he can’t read

[vast latch]

[whole mantle]

Hawkins thinks he can do math but he actually sucks at math, that's the answer. Lol

[vast latch]

Lmao

[small root]

hawkins is just a power scaler

[jaunty pelican]

i think those percentages are ujst oda trying to make the story more entertaining

[whole mantle]

LMAO yes, that explains everything about him

[high widget]

Hawkins’ cards don’t show numbers just pictures

He’s crazy

[timber jolt]

I want to see more card effects

[small root]

just like power scalers: their percentages dont corellate to the actual result

[ocean acorn]

Vs kizaru is the only time it was used good

[vast latch]

I would like to see something with his cards actually mean something

[ocean acorn]

[whole mantle]

OH, HAWKINS DID PREDICT SOMETHING ONCE

Back in Sabaody, he predicted correctly that all the Supernovas would survive encountering Kizaru

[ocean acorn]

DEMON FACE

[high widget]

Adam fake fan

[ocean acorn]

[small root]

its all been downhill for him ever since

[vocal echo]

uroooog

[small root]

[surreal yoke]

He saw the shadow of death for Brownbeard and Brownbeard survived

[whole mantle]

and that was a very, very plot-relevant predictoin. So so far he's gotten like, 1 out of 10 correct. LOL

[surreal yoke]

[high widget]

Brown beard is a D

[vast latch]

Hmm. In that case, maybe Killer gets off’d in Wano so Oda can have Hawkins be right about something

[high widget]

No

Please no

[ocean acorn]

Ye

[surreal yoke]

I don't think Killer dies

[ocean acorn]

I like that

[high widget]

Why

[vast latch]

Killer, more like Killed

[signal wadi]

that boy huffin

[ocean acorn]

[high widget]

Then only luffy would have a good crew

[whole mantle]

Huff, huff, huff

[high widget]

Which would be ass

[jaunty pelican]

do u guys think toki will come back next chapter or later on

[ocean acorn]

[whole mantle]

both of those attacks by Usopp were new to us

[surreal yoke]

this is new attack I think

[ocean acorn]

Nope

[small root]

not at all

[surreal yoke]

yeah they're both new I'm pretty sure

[whole mantle]

Artur from Library of Ohara said they're new, and he knows his stuff

[ocean acorn]

All new

[foggy minnow]

Exploding Pinecones and those fireworks was definitely new

[jaunty pelican]

why it never said she died and she can easily go forward in time

[vast latch]

Exploding pinecones was cool

[foggy minnow]

but also we should see more of Usopp and Nami trying to attack the "solar plexus"

[ocean acorn]

Ye

[high widget]

Oda is inconsistent with size

[small root]

go to manga channel for that talk but nah

[ocean acorn]

[vast latch]

I enjoyed Usopp a lot this chapter

[high widget]

Don’t focus too much on size

[whole mantle]

This right here, lol

[ocean acorn]

Same

[small root]

perspective

[vast latch]

His new stuff really makes me happy. I love that he has more tricks up his sleeve

[surreal yoke]

They actually made decent sized explosions

Big fan of these 2 new attacks for Usopp

[signal wadi]

Oda had to nerf Tabasco Star, Usopp woulda taken down Page Done already but he retired it

[whole mantle]

One thing that impresses me about Page One is that he is only 20 years old. He's a year younger than Zoro and Sanji and only a year older than Luffy. The Straw Hat Pirates are UNUSUAL for being as strong as they are while so young, so Page One being 20 and Ulti being 22 is impressive.

[surreal yoke]

Sanji vs P1 is 931

[high widget]

Yes cool

Good looks goody

Luffy is shorter

[surreal yoke]

Robin is 6'2 I think

[ocean acorn]

Ye

[whole mantle]

Page One is short too, dude is only 5'7", although i've been paying half-attention so maybe someone said that

[vocal echo]

pokemon spoilers smfh

[jaunty pelican]

sanji is 180 and usop is 176

[small root]

pinecones exploding is a thing in nature, they dont explode forreal

[tranquil nacelle]

Brook is the tallest one

[small root]

but they pop their seeds open

[high widget]

Wow #other-series

[small root]

under heat

[surreal yoke]

TRUE. Ban them all

[lone merlin]

What point are we at?

[pliant fiber]

Yeah and the shortest other than chopper is nami or Luffy

[surreal yoke]

yesh

[ocean acorn]

It’s based on actual pinecones @rough flint

[whole mantle]

Don't try to apply logic to the plants from teh Boin Archipelago, dude. Lol

i don't think she needs to give a specific command, she just has to yell to all of them to turn against the Beast Pirates

[small root]

seems like speed has been giving out dongos to gifters tama hasnt been around yet, cause speed has been going around

[lone merlin]

They need to hear orders to follow them

Right?

[signal wadi]

I think she just wanted to get to a big open area to be able to speak to all of them

[whole mantle]

Because we've seen her be able to give ANY command to animals or SMILES she feeds, and they follow it

[small root]

i think tama sent speed out to give out dongos

[whole mantle]

she also sent out that scorpion-dude from the prison staff

[surreal yoke]

@ruby junco

[lone merlin]

She sent quite a few to pass around the dangos

[whole mantle]

and he was like, force-feeding the dangos to people, lol

[foggy minnow]

and the gazelle

[lone merlin]

They just need her to connect to the PA system

The mic to it is probably on the live stage

[whole mantle]

Yeah, I think her goal is to connect to the "Marys" communication system with the paper-symbols on their faces

[vocal echo]

"Leave none alive"

[small root]

[lone merlin]

[whole mantle]

LMFAO yes.

Tama: "Show no mercy to those filthy bastards, kill them all!"

Usopp and Nami: "Tama what the FUCK?"

[signal wadi]

Imagine Tama tells them to do someone and Big Mom just smashes them all cause she's mad about Okobore town

[surreal yoke]

INHERITED WILL BEAN

[small root]

i feel like tama should be allowed to have the ability to turn it off

[lone merlin]

We need a tama counterpart of

[small root]

she should consciously turn it off at some point

[whole mantle]

how would she know if it keeps working after she dies? Lol there's NO WAY to know

[ocean acorn]

“It's the pine tree releasing seeds from it's pine cones! ... When heated to a hot enough temperature, the resin melts and the seeds are released explosively, spreading them on the forest floor.

[whole mantle]

but the point is that she's brave as fuck. This eight year old kid is willing to lay down her life. That's seriously badass.

[outer sky]

essentially popcorn

[ocean acorn]

[surreal yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/pine-cone-bloom-tree-cool-gif-13098337

[whole mantle]

That's fascinating, since normally there isn't any logic behind the pop-greens from Boin Archipelago, but i guess this is a rare instance where Oda based on on something real

[quick ore]

Fact of the Day lol

[lone merlin]

"popgreen"

[high widget]

👏hypno

[lone merlin]

Should have been a dead giveaway

[surreal yoke]

yeah big boom booms

[whole mantle]

ALL the Ancient Zoans seem to be "tanky"

Komachiyo

[timber jolt]

Komachiyo

[surreal yoke]

Komainu is the species

Komachiyo is its actual name

[lone merlin]

It's komchiyo the komainu

[small root]

unfortunately its hard to gauge usopps true effectiveness of his attacks this arc cause everyone is a tanky ancient zoan

[signal wadi]

Wait until he brings out the reject dial

[surreal yoke]

lol I actually didn't see that line

[foggy minnow]

Page One has turned into Zoro now with the huffing

[surreal yoke]

that's great

[small root]

[foggy minnow]

when is Oda not being a hack

[ocean acorn]

👏

[timber jolt]

No oda is a hack

[small root]

no zoans, because of course

[ocean acorn]

[lone merlin]

[surreal yoke]

🙇‍♂️

[high widget]

Unfortunate Oli

[timber jolt]

He added his own headcanon to the story

[real flare]

👏

[whole mantle]

But what's important to take notice of is that the attacks did actual real damage to Page One, knocking him down and having him like "Huff, huff, huff" in the aftermath, lol

[timber jolt]

[ocean acorn]

So many losers

[small root]

no faith in oda

[lone merlin]

Basically Tama neg diffs a third of all DF users

[surreal yoke]

good

[outer sky]

I woulda liked to see tama's df to scale off of haki power

meaning at a high level she could control lesser zoans

[quick ore]

things with scales are always have to be tanky acording to reasons

[foggy minnow]

Being able to tame all Zoan users would've been particularly disgusting

[surreal yoke]

I think Chopper cures the pleasures but Tama is a neat idea

[ocean acorn]

Not chopper

[lone merlin]

"Be normal"

Pleasures are cured

[small root]

i think the pleasures will just turn anyway because queen is an asshole

[whole mantle]

But then what about Black Maria and Who's Who? They are Ancient Zoans, but a spider and a feline, not reptiles

[ocean acorn]

[whole mantle]

Jack is an Ancient Zoan but a mammal, too

[ruby junco]

Because that's literally what scales were invented for

lmao

[quick ore]

yas

[timber jolt]

[quick ore]

Details

[outer sky]

attack on titan scene

[ocean acorn]

Kaiju boi

[surreal yoke]

I think that's intentional

[ocean acorn]

[high widget]

#western-series

[small root]

big mom really is godzilla lmao

[whole mantle]

Oh yeah, Big Mom is totally a freaking Kaiju, lol. "Natural Born Destroyer."

[surreal yoke]

this whole arc reminds me of jurassic park

[small root]

i want someone to edit in the godzilla roar when this reaches in the anime

[ocean acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-dropkick-godzilla-fight-gif-14788399

Big mom drop kick

[whole mantle]

yeah i too appreciate these panels that really show the SCALE of the large-sized characters in the series

[ocean acorn]

I’m draw it

[quick ore]

Godzilla: I am going to be the coolest giant monster this year!

Big Mom:Hold my soul

[surreal yoke]

I think Hera is recharging

[small root]

yeah adam

[whole mantle]

More like "Hold my cake," but yeah. Lol

[small root]

its for da reveal

[lone merlin]

Maybe hera is behind this ?

[outer sky]

zeus turning point

[lone merlin]

Like near her other arm?

[high widget]

Been nice listening
Good night guys

[lone merlin]

or did the next few panels also not have hera?

[surreal yoke]

Hera could just be smaller rn and recharging else where

[lone merlin]

Good morning, I woke up an hour ago 😂😂

[surreal yoke]

BIG MEME BIG MEME BIG MEME BIG MEME BIG MEME

[whole mantle]

a lot of people hate it but i actually like it because it means that the amnesia-arc had actual relevance

and i don't think she's going to JOIN the Straw Hats' side

[ocean acorn]

New side

[quick ore]

lol MEME

[small root]

im fine with it, in the moment, but yeah it depends how long it goes on, i still think she will stay antagonistic the whole time versus the strawhats

[ocean acorn]

Team wano

Big mom team wano

[small root]

tama meeting bm was seen coming since udon and she kept talking about it after she regained her memory and right before

[ocean acorn]

Wait!?

[lone merlin]

Luffy Big Mom Kaido 3way battle royale

[foggy minnow]

I'm ok with it, I imagine this could make it an everyone vs Big Mom

[ocean acorn]

[signal wadi]

I'm cool with it as long as she's essentially a 3rd faction. It would suck if she's doesn't want to kill the SHs still.

[whole mantle]

Exactly, people are assuming that BM turning against Kaido would mean her joining the Straw Hats. But what if she just becomes a third party? So this becomes a three-way free-for-all between the Straw Hats' Alliance, Big Mom and Perospero, and the Beast Pirates. Just pure chaos

[ocean acorn]

I thought something

[small root]

i hope it makes it like a free for all: kid vs bm, bm vs kid and nearby beast pirates and strawhats, yeah exactly adam

adam spittin

[ocean acorn]

Something concerning

[whole mantle]

i predict that BM is gonna try to kill Nami and Usopp, and when Tama freaks out and asks her not to, she'll be like "My friendship with you and my hatred for these Straw Hats are unrelated things!"

[lone merlin]

What's Marco gonna do if BM and Peros turn against both factions?

[small root]

i think itll also be king vs perospero vs sanji/zoro(?) in a similar free for all , at the same time this free for all is happening

[whole mantle]

He'll be fucked and then we can finally get Sanji vs King or Sanji vs Queen, lol.

[small root]

oh, speaking of queen, he is 100% going to find out that tama can tame gifters

hes been catching on

its gonna put tama in danger

[lone merlin]

[foggy minnow]

and then he's gonna figure out how to further use it against himself

[small root]

lol

[pliant fiber]

I think they’re still gonna lose this fight.

[surreal yoke]

Yeah that's why I think it will be a free for all

Where Kid, Law, the SHs, and even some beast pirates all just gang up on BM

[small root]

what do u guys think Ulti is gonna do? immediately after the last page

[outer sky]

remember pedro

I don't think the strawhats will forget

[quick ore]

Have we seen any of the disasters go 100% yet anyway?

[small root]

none have gone hybrid

[signal wadi]

Rip bean

[lone merlin]

Maaan I kinda wish it was gonna be Luffy and Ulti teaming up against big mom

[signal wadi]

Is it his internet?

[surreal yoke]

Luffy and Ulti?

[lone merlin]

That would have been a chaotic delight to watch

[rough flint]

she gonna headbutt big mom, preferrably with the no contact technique

[quick ore]

[foggy minnow]

not really - not even Jack, weird as it is, has went hybrid (probably because they're saving it for a collective reveal)

[signal wadi]

?

[lone merlin]

It's impossible ik, but man would have been fun

[small root]

do u mean that would be a visual indicator of coc? also, i hope no amnesia again, i doubt itll happen twice, bm will tank it properly

[rough flint]

oh i dont think we'll ever see amnesia again

[sour solstice]

God I wish YouTube weren’t so ass

[surreal yoke]

watch on discord lol

[small root]

yea same

[sour solstice]

I wish I could listen to the vid with another tab open

How do you watch on disc

[lone merlin]

You only listen on discord

[small root]

yeah its gonna be chaos lol

[lone merlin]

There isn't much to watch

[sour solstice]

That’s what I meant

[small root]

its cause she crashed luffy thru the floor

[lone merlin]

Join the event or whatever

[void pasture]

is this being streamed on yt?

[sour solstice]

Oh this is new

Never seen this feature

[whole mantle]

I mean, I know that Ulti is impulsively violent, but is she really THAT crazy that she'd attack Big Mom? She was trembling and looked scared in that last panel

[lone merlin]

It's in the panel where you see all the channels

[small root]

yes cause its pay pay

[real frigate]

she looked like she was about to snap to me

[small root]

and pay pay might be out for good

[timber jolt]

Zeus has no survivability faith in BM surviving is relatively low

[whole mantle]

But she looked terrified. Yes it's her little brother but like, she does know this is Big-freaking-Mom right here, lol.

[small root]

she didnt look that scared, more like shocked that it happened

[whole mantle]

Big Mom IS an overgrown baby

[small root]

same fats lol

[lone merlin]

She just saw her brother, who literally negated a bunch of explosions, literally knocked out in a single hit

[small root]

she gets the MOST pissed cause someone fucked with her line of food

[lone merlin]

Ofc she's terrified

[small root]

lol

[lone merlin]

I would be too

[foggy minnow]

fear or impending anger

[signal wadi]

both

[lone merlin]

Probably a mix of the two

[real frigate]

looks more angry to me

[vocal echo]

@ arsal

[rotund owl]

More so fear but mix of both

[vocal echo]

lmfao

[surreal yoke]

ArsalCope

[quick ore]

Ironic seeing that when she was a baby she was actually overgrown

[lone merlin]

Let him sleep it's 730 in the morning 😂😂

[small root]

She hyper focused on Tama

and that room showing mama mode for the first time shes surrounded by baby kids

[whole mantle]

I still think Big Mom WILL try to kill Usopp and Nami, and Tama will TRY to talk her out of it, and Big Mom will reply that her friendship with Tama is unrelated to her hatred for the Straw Hats

[sour solstice]

Shouldn’t big mom sense them if they hide?

Or is BM not using obs rn

[timber jolt]

Well Otama isn’t a random child she helped BM

[small root]

a random child that helped her when she was mentally diabled and she supplied her food

[ocean acorn]

Big mom is so nice

Wow

[lone merlin]

I like this mother mode thing

[ocean acorn]

Ye

[lone merlin]

It actually fits BM's char imo

[small root]

i think oda putting the mother mode speech bubble by prometheus is oda trying to make extra sure people knew where that came from, but tbh it shouldnt have been needed

[whole mantle]

A lot of assumptions are being made here, the word "mode" doesn't mean that she hyperfixated and forgot about everything else. Usopp and Nami can't go anywhere right now anyway, but y'all are just ASSUMING she forgot about those two

[ocean acorn]

It’s like when kaido was chill with jack

[foggy minnow]

ig there had to be some emotional side effect of having like 85 children

[ocean acorn]

[whole mantle]

Big Mom is an overgrown child, she gets distracted and acts upon her whims. She is, indeed, like a dark version of Luffy

[real frigate]

people are treating mother mode like an actual form change or something and not just her maternal instincts kicking in

[lone merlin]

There should have been a physical one too but...

[small root]

"mode" made people see it negatively in the fandom , but its just how big mom is

[whole mantle]

but as soon as she takes notice of Usopp and Nami again, she will indeed try to squash them

[small root]

in certain times

[rotund owl]

Feel like she also wants to be like mother caramel

[timber jolt]

Mama mode back in WCI

[safe hawk]

this chat is getting heated

[lone merlin]

Remember when Luffy met Ace while fighting Smoker?

[whole mantle]

Yeah, like Luffy has "modes" too, like "meat-mode" or the "suddenly saw a friend on the battlefield" mode that w2as just mentioned

[foggy minnow]

if Prometheus called it her "motherly instincts" instead of her "mother mode" maybe it'd be less criticized

[lone merlin]

Both were grinning too

[small root]

hers is just an extreme exaggeration of those things

and she IS an exaggerated character

[quick ore]

no she is more like a hungrier and greedier version of luffy

[signal wadi]

It's also something people do in real life. Like you got a hanging out with friends mode and speaking to your boss mode. People have a "customer service voice".

[small root]

jinbei also mentioned a pirate code i think back in WCI

[whole mantle]

Luffy's own "modes" result in him doing stupidly reckless shit like glomping Hancock for a full ten seconds out of gratitude while in the middle of the world's biggest battle, which was reckless for multiple reasons

[ocean acorn]

Big mom is kakashing rn?

[safe hawk]

luffy gets memed on all the time but the fandom lets it pass... oh but if BM gets memed on OOOOF she is soooo bad

[ocean acorn]

I think she just doesn’t mind usopp and nami rn

[lone merlin]

It's like big mom doesn't have a character beyond the memes

[whole mantle]

Yes exactly Fats, this is completely in-character for Big Mom

[safe hawk]

B I G M E M E

[small root]

[whole mantle]

That is not true, she actually has a pretty defined character if you take the hypocrisy of her "moral code" into account. She's not as "unpredictable" as people think

[safe hawk]

did u guys talk about kaido’s incomplete sentence to Luffy

[ocean acorn]

Yonko are the big kids in the play ground

[small root]

yeah just a bit

[ocean acorn]

Don’t take their toys

[safe hawk]

uwu

[ocean acorn]

[lone merlin]

I was implying that's how the Fandom acts

[timber jolt]

Surface level she treats them well with a place to live, laws, etc etc etc

[surreal yoke]

and you can have your whole city destroyed if she wants a snickers bar

[sour solstice]

Ten years honestly isn’t that bad

I’d take that deal

[lone merlin]

While agreeing with tsuki

[sour solstice]

I don’t wanna live as a decrepit old corpse anyway

[whole mantle]

Ohhh okay well yeah about that you are correct. Half the fandom is like "Ugh she's such a poorly-written random character," when in actuality she's actually a quite well-written character who Oda has portrayed very consistently, you just have to make a mental effort to understand her

[ocean acorn]

And get big mom to kaido

[small root]

shes blind to herself in those rages, but yeah those fuck the citizens up, she doesnt do it consciously and methodically tho like kaidos own men did to the village

[quick ore]

Her simple mindedness lets her become easy to read

[small root]

in kaidos own territory

[safe hawk]

uses bonneys df on you

[sour solstice]

[lone merlin]

Yeah

[surreal yoke]

yeah but it's just another reason why Totland isn't all a paradise

[quick ore]

bonney...............................................................

[whole mantle]

Exactly, that's such a great way to put it, Red. Characters aren't going to act LOGICALLY, they will act like PEOPLE. Someone gets diistracted and passionate about something suddenly, then they'll act on impulse before going back to what they were doing before

[small root]

yeah ofc, its a bit twisted, kaido and bm definitely have a different way of running things, that makes me think maybe thats part of the reason kaido never wanted her on his territory to begin with

[finite notch]

BM cared more ab talking with Tama than taking down two Straw Hats who can’t touch her

[small root]

disagreement in the upper management lol

[safe hawk]

uh oh

[vocal echo]

they ride zeus to escape while kid distracts big mom

[whole mantle]

Exactly, Big Mom views the likes of Nami and Usopp as tiny insects that she can stomp on at any time she pleases

And therefore she's in no HURRY to deal with them

[quick ore]

That is why the characters in One Piece are likable and relatable.

[safe hawk]

did you guys mention how big mom is too strong for her own good? shes always been the strongest thing around her. Seeing Nami and Usopp to her is like seeing bugs that cant do shit to her

[small root]

theyre floatin in the sky above a city

[safe hawk]

all her life even when she was little, she has never experienced a painful fight

[small root]

ye they mentioned the last part specifically lol

[safe hawk]

well idk in her in between years

but shes such a big fish in a small pond

[small root]

now she has hera she doesnt care about zeus

lol

[safe hawk]

OMG NAMI CAN KEEP ZEUS!!!

[whole mantle]

Exactly, as I said, Big Mom figures she can get back to Nami and Usopp when she feels like it, it's not like they can get off that island or even get past her right now in this moment

[safe hawk]

what if it was brook

[surreal yoke]

she's also just easily distracted

[small root]

yeah hence mother mode lol

[surreal yoke]

she saw Tama, ok time to move on to Tama, I'll deal with these 2 in a sec

Then P1 shows up

[whole mantle]

She hates Luffy more than any of the others, but it's hard to say whether she hates Brook or Nami more, lol. She'd definitely take Brook more seriously as a combatant, as she actually gave him credit for his skills in a fight

[small root]

FOOD occupies her mind

tama = food relation

[sour solstice]

I feel like you are undermining what tama did for her, whoever it is that’s speaking

[whole mantle]

Lol i just knew that when we got to this part of the chapter the discussion would get more heated than usual XD

[timber jolt]

!mamalogic

[gaunt pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164971940648321024/594306247944175626/unknown.png

[finite notch]

^

Ty

[signal wadi]

I went to go look at Mama capturing Nami and it doesn't really look like she "beat the shit" out of her. I think she brought her to the main stage and maybe take her soul there or something.

[finite notch]

She assumed Brook didn’t get it

[ocean acorn]

Nami without Zeus is manageable by normal homies

[whole mantle]

Big mom has really, really severe ADHD, that explains everything. Lol.

[ocean acorn]

Lmao it’s true

[whole mantle]

And yeah exactly, when she goes to get her revenge on Nami she doesn't even have to take her down herself, she can just make some homies and tell them to go find Nami for her.

Big Mom's CoC, right? LOL

[quick ore]

wow you always state the Facts

lol

[ocean acorn]

My baby

Noooo

[surreal yoke]

[ocean acorn]

[ocean acorn]

?

[whole mantle]

yes we knew, in Chapter 959 we were told about the fate of Okobore Town

[vocal echo]

BALD BALD BALD

point at the BALD man

[ocean acorn]

No?

[timber jolt]

She’s been in Okorobe town, and was the one who talked to Holdem

[small root]

she is assumed to be dead, they said they executed the villagers

[ocean acorn]

I thought she was with holdem

[surreal yoke]

@subtle trellis

[ocean acorn]

[signal wadi]

bottom and top of the first and second pages I posted @subtle trellis

[hallow socket]

im not caught up but im here anyway

[whole mantle]

i'mma be real, one thing i don't like about Kin'emon since the reveal that he's married is that he has an unfaithful heart. I mean it's one thing to find other women attractive and keep it to himself inside his head, but Kin'emon OPENLY lusts after other women besides Tsuru.

[timber jolt]

Or they both kick the bucket

[signal wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/not-reading-read-reading-his-ass-is-not-reading-ignore-gif-18922326

[surreal yoke]

[timber jolt]

[small root]

@rough flint topic for the vc: do yall think the coc punch took out page one? do u think if he gets up that might bode really badly for the rest of the strawhat tobi roppo match ups?

[tough verge]

Kid df awakening🤔

[quick ore]

The love story that has survived 20 years, Kinemon and Otsuru

[whole mantle]

no, that was not Hera

It has EXACTLY the same visual effect as when Luffy hit Kaido with CoC back in 1010

[ruby junco]

He was joking lmao

[whole mantle]

complete with not making contact and what the no-contact shockwave looks like

[buoyant brook]

Ryou haki

[rough flint]

the whole discussion we're about to have is me thinking it's advanced CoA doing the no contact stuff

[surreal yoke]

accept the truth

[fleet goblet]

I woke up late and missed everything

[whole mantle]

But we saw Luffy use the Advanced COA against Kaido ever since the rooftop-battle started, and it didn't have any no-contact visuals back when it was just CoA

[small root]

the trail from the thing youre about to do CoC punches with, is coc coating signifier

[gritty wagon]

it's okay choc, i just joined a few seconds ago too lmao

[ocean acorn]

[rough flint]

When they wont even let me talk

😔

[vocal echo]

thank god

[ocean acorn]

[quick ore]

#Zorostanforlife

[ocean acorn]

Lmao

[surreal yoke]

Be on the fence with Zoro CoC idc
But Luffy is using CoC coating

Just accept it

[buoyant brook]

Luffy Senpai

[cunning ingot]

not whether he was using it or not evan

[whole mantle]

The issue is that one of the only big flaws with Oda's writing AND art in the series is that he has never made the workings/mechanics of the Haki power-system clear enough. I know it's like, blasphemy to criticize him, but whatever; Oda is god-tier, but no writer is PERFECT

[cunning ingot]

just the art indicator

[lone merlin]

That's gonna happen when you have such trash takes

[cunning ingot]

that's what I'm talking about

[fleet goblet]

We've converted evan from 100% zoro coc

[cunning ingot]

i'm still with that

[surreal yoke]

I mean Adam lol, I'm just messin with him

[cunning ingot]

oh word

I'm being silent awaiting a god tier adam monologue

[small root]

@subtle trellis conqeuror of three worlds: ragnaraku was the haki trail and definitely a coc coating attack but it didnt have the space between

[surreal yoke]

lmao

[small root]

the trail from the weapons is the true signifier

[surreal yoke]

You have worn me down I just want an answer at this point AGHHHH

[quick ore]

lol the anticipation

[surreal yoke]

LOL

[timber jolt]

Here we go Adam monologue

[fleet goblet]

IT'S HERE

[surreal yoke]

adam is in

[fleet goblet]

[timber jolt]

it’s starting

[vocal echo]

here we goooo

[timber jolt]

[quick ore]

Here we go HYPE

[gritty wagon]

[surreal yoke]

At least it's just Adam pretty much

[vocal echo]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-burning-burn-hell-red-gif-4977777

[quick ore]

Jesus lol

[surreal yoke]

I feel better that it's just one person

[small root]

BM has a trail from her fist

shes doing CoC

[ocean acorn]

It wouldn’t look as cool

[lone merlin]

Adam triggered

[ocean acorn]

[whole mantle]

nobody read what i said before, did they? Where I dared to criticize Oda for not making the Haki power-system clear enough, because no mangaka is perfect? Lol

[fleet goblet]

Earl, he's talking about the ragnaraku in 1009 having no gap.

[small root]

yeah i agree with that, but his main point is about bm i believe

[ocean acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mala-mishra-jha-pat-head-cute-sparkle-penguin-gif-16770818

[whole mantle]

It's just Oda being inconsistent, stop operating on the assumptoin that Oda is completely perfect lol, nobody is

[cunning ingot]

it's not elaborated on for chapters like these ones

where he reveals new stuff

[small root]

the trail is the one commonality in all the coc attacks, thats all i take it as, not the space in between

[quick ore]

"2nd strongest person in the universe"- remember this when gods are introduces on Laughtale lol

[cunning ingot]

we understand the basics

the rest is to be revealed as protags get it

[whole mantle]

The reason we can be sure Big Mom used CoC-Coating is becuase it looked the same and because it's in the SAME PAIR OF CHAPTERS where we got the big reveal of CoC-Coating and were shown Luffy using it

[ocean acorn]

Sacrifice must be made for the art

[ocean acorn]

Like sanji

[surreal yoke]

I just really think the portrayal of final scene of 1010 was to tell the audience that Luffy has awakened this new technique that can FINALLY allow him to compete and deal damage to Kaido

[small root]

but thats luffy doing a punch movement i think

one punch

[whole mantle]

The part that Oda has never explained clearly is the visuals, that's the issue. That's why there's endless debate in the fandom about the visuals of Haki, like all the people wondering if somehow nobody in Marineford was using Hardening. Lol

[finite notch]

There’s a sound effect

[ocean acorn]

It’s a punch

[fleet goblet]

Here's my idea. Ryuo is about the idea that haki is fluid. so it makes sense to me that not every attack would have the gap, because resistance to the haki flow would like... not flow as directed by the user.

[ocean acorn]

A delay

Ye

[quick ore]

You see him punch in the anime

[cunning ingot]

well how is he gonna explain the visuals in-series when it's just black lightning & stuff

[ocean acorn]

[whole mantle]

Oda is just consistently inconsistent in visual portrayals of Haki, that's really all there is to it.

[cunning ingot]

that's what I have been saying

Just wait

we'll see it become more & more inconsistent

[vocal echo]

brb

[quick ore]

Consistently Inconsistent is the best description of haki

[cunning ingot]

just like with cracker vs luffy, sanji vs judge

[small root]

the black trail from the weapons is consistent, everything else can be questionable sure

[whole mantle]

Yeah fats I know, in future arcs we'll have no way to know for sure when Luffy is using CoC-Coating or not, lololol, let alone when he's using future-sight or Ryuo

[cunning ingot]

yeah that's another thing

[surreal yoke]

Just look at this scene. I think there's a clear implication here

[cunning ingot]

we can only tell when luffy used future sight like once so far on the roof

a few other times we can infer it, like one other time

[finite notch]

Dead man walking was just underestimating Luffy and thinking he’s going to beat him easily

[cunning ingot]

we just know it's in his arsenal

so it may/may not be used at times

[surreal yoke]

It implied that he acknowledged he underestimated Luffy

[delicate garden]

I think the clash between Rogers and WB in the anime is also a clear indication

[small root]

i dont need visual indicators for future sight every single time , i just know if he dodges very well

lol

[delicate garden]

When Yonko clashes we can assume they use advanced coc to fight

[fleet goblet]

well yeah. He's even removed the indicator for even ryuo. When Rayleigh/Sentomaru/Marigold used it, even hyougoro, there was that like, impact indicator. but that's removed when Luffy "uses" it, and we just have to assume luffy is using it.

[delicate garden]

And we know big mom and kaido went one on one before the alliance

[finite notch]

Luffy Adv CoC

[delicate garden]

It’s hard to believe big mom can go one on one with kaido without using advance coc

[finite notch]

Is more surprising

[cunning ingot]

exactly

[whole mantle]

Wait so you're seriously arguing that Luffy actually still isn't using Advanced CoC after all? Are you playing devil's advocate here or actually being serious?

[cunning ingot]

that's why i keep repeating myself about "muh reservations"

about the art indicators

[fleet goblet]

If I had to use art indicators, I'd say zoro 100% does not use conqueror's haki at all. because there are none.

[surreal yoke]

It was literally just one page

[fleet goblet]

but I know oda can be inconsistent about those things

so I hold reservations

[small root]

zoro definitely didnt use advanced coc

at least

[cunning ingot]

the page is super filled up with ink too already, choc

[whole mantle]

1010 was literally called "Color of the Conquering King" and then we saw Luffy get a big power-up with his attacks having the same visual-effect as Roger's, Whitebeard's, and Kaido's Advanced CoC attacks, and someone is really arguing that Luffy still isn't using Advanced CoC? LOL

[lone merlin]

Somebody write a postcard to Oda asking him to clarify 😂😂

[small root]

[cunning ingot]

well, that's basically my thought process about it. i think the context clues are too strong for me personally to feel like he didn't use it

[surreal yoke]

I'll post this again, but this scene just screams that Luffy developed CoC coating and now feels confident he can go face Kaido more evenly now

[whole mantle]

that's what i'm saying, the narrative makes it soooo obvious that Luffy is using CoC-Coating, like the last chapter was literally named after CoC

[quick ore]

he is using advanced, advanced armarment lol no CoC here

[small root]

the chapter calling itself COC is kind of obvious luffy is gonna be using CoC attacks in it

that would be pretty deflating if he didnt

[whole mantle]

Exactly

[quick ore]

....................................................................................

[cunning ingot]

i meant for zoro, but

[whole mantle]

He does, apparently some people just don't understand how to read into narrative and visual implications, no offense to anyone lol

[cunning ingot]

yeah that's what they're talking about in voice

[delicate garden]

When zoro dmg kaido with Asura kaido said that he was a CoC user as well which I took as the only way to really dmg is is through coc infused attack

[gritty hedge]

forgot what I said 🙂

[surreal yoke]

Luffy continues to surpass his expectations and he's noting that. He's getting excited

[lone merlin]

Looks surpised enough to me

[ocean acorn]

Btw Conquerer was also in the name

[buoyant brook]

[ocean acorn]

Hint hint

[cunning ingot]

i dislike that it's not spelled conqueror there

[ocean acorn]

Translation

[surreal yoke]

Yes, he's getting excited

[ocean acorn]

Like a classic oda pun maybe

[quick ore]

wait a minute, was the combo attack with Kaido and Big Mom also infused with CoC and we could just not see the lightning?

[ocean acorn]

[surreal yoke]

I disagree with that totally adam I'm sorry

[finite notch]

Adam vs the world

[ocean acorn]

I don’t think so

But maybe

[whole mantle]

This is the issue with Oda's unclear and inconsistent portrayal of Haki, he's so damn vague with it that he has intelligent, knowledgeable members of the fandom questioning whether Luffy actually got this power-up or not. LOL dammit Oda, please just start making Haki more clear already 😅

[cunning ingot]

gonna call oda just so red & bean can take this fat L

[ocean acorn]

[cunning ingot]

[gritty hedge]

:0

[whole mantle]

Write to him in the SBS, lololol

[ocean acorn]

I need to make this into a bobbin thanks

[lone merlin]

Introduce yourself as noda Skywalker, you will get through

[ocean acorn]

[surreal yoke]

Good

100%

[finite notch]

Oda doesn’t have to be blunt and say “you’re not a dead man walking hmmmm”

[surreal yoke]

nah nah

[whole mantle]

to channel Senku from Dr. Stone, i am TEN BILLION PERCENT certain that Luffy is using CoC-Coating. Lol.

[small root]

that would be so cheesy

[quick ore]

lol even the greatest stories have there flaws

[small root]

after he had just said it

[ocean acorn]

Lmao

[timber jolt]

The chad 100% opinion vs the virgin ambivalent

[quick ore]

99%

[ocean acorn]

[whole mantle]

nuuuuuu, 10-billion % dangit, lol

[fleet goblet]

I've said it before as well. I understand where adam is coming from, I just think the narrative implication is waaaay too strong.

[surreal yoke]

I never sit on the fence

go all in

or don't

[gritty hedge]

wat happen lol

[ocean acorn]

That to

[signal wadi]

The Bari sound effect

[gritty hedge]

the boom sound effect?

[surreal yoke]

nah it's like a "zzt" sound effect

[fleet goblet]

[whole mantle]

yeah like static electricity

[ruby junco]

Nah, like electricity sparking

[surreal yoke]

It's this

[ocean acorn]

Bewaaam in the anime?

[surreal yoke]

nice Wanze

[gritty hedge]

pogcast

[fleet goblet]

Sound indicators are worse than art indicators imo, because sound indicators are so fucking broad in how they can be applied.

[gritty hedge]

ur right

[whole mantle]

I keep telling people that Yamato almost definitely used, at bare minimum, at least Emission-level Advanced CoA when she took out that one Numbers member, but people are like "nuuuuuuuu Yamato just imbued normal armament into his hand and club" and I am like "why the fuck would he do that for a ranged attack though?"

[finite notch]

Let me guess

[ruby junco]

Because it would still imbue the attack?

[finite notch]

It didn’t happen during Ashura

[surreal yoke]

Coz it's not JUST when there's black lightning, it's mainly for CoC

[ruby junco]

Why wouldn't she?

[cunning ingot]

⚡

[fleet goblet]

is this the sfx you're talking about?

[surreal yoke]

nah

[ocean acorn]

[signal wadi]

No, it's in the wind-up

not the clash

[surreal yoke]

the panels that Wanze posted

[small root]

the wind up, not the clash

[whole mantle]

"Clang," oh god I'm getting flashbacks to the Berserk 2016 anime 😭

[finite notch]

Zoro using Adv CoC is disproved pretty much

[ocean acorn]

I don’t want zoro to be a conqueror

[signal wadi]

Retro and Mip came up with this flow chart

[small root]

its zzzt

[fleet goblet]

okay, this makes it make a lot more sense what adam is saying.

[gritty hedge]

the zzzt one

[fleet goblet]

basically dimsisses the sfx if it's not related to haki

[whole mantle]

So then yeah WHAT IS THIS then?

"Zap zap zap."

What did Yamato use there?

[fleet goblet]

and if it is, then it's always been used for conqueror's, outside of ulti vs yamato

[signal wadi]

yeah because carrot has the sound effect when she uses electro, niji when he uses his lightning, enel, etc

so it's just general lightning but that's not haki so doesn't matter

but when its along with black lightning, they were saying that it's coc being used

[surreal yoke]

lmao

[fleet goblet]

interesting. I guess I'll entertain the sfx argument for now then.

[small root]

the way to disprove it is if you find a panel of someone you know for sure not having coc, and not having lightning

making that sound effect

[gritty hedge]

gtg guys

[rough flint]

we couldnt find one earl

[gritty hedge]

byee....

[small root]

oh damn

[whole mantle]

And yeah Ulti has the "Zap zap zap" black lightning too:

[cunning ingot]

bye clark

[timber jolt]

Cya man

[surreal yoke]

cya cya

[finite notch]

That’s during the clash

Not a trail pre attack

[timber jolt]

Sitting in the fence

[whole mantle]

No it's not the "stream" thing but Ulti has the "zap zap" black lightning in the middle panel while still charging her headbutt before the clash

[gritty hedge]

🙂

[surreal yoke]

Hiyori is literally the silhouette

[fleet goblet]

no, it's during the wind up.

[surreal yoke]

Accept the truth

[whole mantle]

And Yamato had the "zap zap" black lightning during the wind up as well

[finite notch]

Nvm didn’t see

Interesting

[whole mantle]

And I've made the argument that Yamato probably used Emission there since it was a ranged attack and he managed to put armament into it

But people tell me i'm a moron for thinking so, lol

[finite notch]

Adam uses Occam’s razor when it’s convenient

[ruby junco]

You don't need to use emission to imbue a ranged attack

But yes, yamato probably can use it either way

[signal wadi]

bari during the wind up

[small root]

law got his heart, adam, dont worry

[fleet goblet]

kaido in bottom left is goro tho

I know they are similar, but still is a different sfx

[whole mantle]

...... goddammit Oda. Lol

[small root]

thats the spinning sound effect

[signal wadi]

Yeah i dunno why they put that one there, that's a jp forum image but just the one mip was posting

[small root]

not for coc

[timber jolt]

Similar to the BM one choc i imagine

[fleet goblet]

oh ye, bm one is different too

[small root]

BM's is on the bottom right of her panel

its the smaller one

[fleet goblet]

ye

just noticed it

[whole mantle]

But yeah Yamato is a beast and people be sleeping on them, they're like "Psh, Yamato is no stronger than the Tobi Roppo" and I"m like "Oh bitch please, it's still Kaido's kid and they're already 28."

[finite notch]

Lemme in

[ruby junco]

one shots ulti first panel in the series

yeah okay

[small root]

i like your careful use of pronouns lol

[whole mantle]

i don't want to start that drama-filled debate again, lol

[small root]

i feel ya lol

[worthy leaf]

what's adam's stand again? that luffy is not using advance CoC or the attacks in general are not advance CoC?

[fleet goblet]

idk what you guys said about the stuff before the conqueror's stuff.

[ruby junco]

both

[fleet goblet]

i.e. what you guys were talking about for 99% of the chapter

[cunning ingot]

if anyone else wants in btw, just raise your hand

i'll invite you in

[lone merlin]

Aight I m out, off to work

[small root]

big mom stuff, tama stuff, and the coc stuff from the beginning of the chapter

[cunning ingot]

enjoy akagami

[timber jolt]

Cya aka

[lone merlin]

Good talk

[surreal yoke]

cya man

[small root]

have a good one

[fleet goblet]

never forget kaido couldn't kill tama.

[whole mantle]

SOMEBODY is gonna die in Wano, though. Somebody the Straw Hats will grieve and mourn for. Oda hinted at it in an interview a while ago

[timber jolt]

It would probably wear off

[surreal yoke]

just wanna join so I can say Ulti and P1 for Kid Pirates

then disconnect

[small root]

yep

[whole mantle]

Kaido seems to have issues with following through on kililng young children by his own hand, i wonder what's up with that

[small root]

i mentioned that

queen has been catching on like twice

[signal wadi]

Yeah he didn't kill Momo 20 years ago

[signal wadi]

He's a dad at heart

[fleet goblet]

not necessarily true.

[small root]

thats how i feel too, not coated pure armament pure coc attack/block

[whole mantle]

Yup and he clearly held back a whole lot when he attacked Tama and Speed given that they survived, so the bottom line is that Kaido holds back against kids and only seems able to kill them when he has someone else kill a kid for him

[timber jolt]

Red hawk but not blackened either

[fleet goblet]

Armament is the biggest example of least consistent art indicator.

[whole mantle]

@cunning ingot i'm raising my hand lol

🖐️

[cunning ingot]

I've invited you in

[whole mantle]

i'm confused, hwo do i speak. lol

ah there we go

[gentle ledge]

kaido was drunk

[surreal yoke]

lol

[gentle ledge]

man probably just took a swipe

[timber jolt]

And then blackened

[fleet goblet]

Sanji dodging katakuri's bean was something katakuri couldn't see

[surreal yoke]

Badass moment

[ocean acorn]

What I said last time

Art error

[small root]

willpower

[timber jolt]

[small root]

[surreal yoke]

Luffy has 2 souls

Him and Ace

[worthy leaf]

guts

[fleet goblet]

magic stuff

[signal wadi]

GUTS

[vocal echo]

fire type

[timber jolt]

Sanjis entire body gets on fire

[ocean acorn]

It’s his passion

[small root]

the willpower of his rubber

[fleet goblet]

magic stuff

[ocean acorn]

[surreal yoke]

fire powers

[sour solstice]

Sanji inherited ace’s will, that’s why

[delicate garden]

Could it be due to gear 2 that he produced the flames without coating with armament?

[whole mantle]

That's because his heart burns so hot. So Oda has said. Lol

[timber jolt]

[vocal echo]

maybe, but the question stands for so many other users of fire

and lightening is a whole other ball

[surreal yoke]

uh oh

[sour solstice]

Pearl uses the passion of his heart

[signal wadi]

oh no nono

[sour solstice]

Chess marimo did it too I think

[surreal yoke]

what language is that

[timber jolt]

Google language

[sour solstice]

Oda forgot to draw mihawk’s nipple

[surreal yoke]

nice

[timber jolt]

Not sure honestly

[sour solstice]

Hack

Show me the world’s strongest swordsman nipple oda

[fleet goblet]

probably tagalog is my guess

[surreal yoke]

future sight Mihawk??

[gritty wagon]

ah it's indonesian apparently

[fleet goblet]

I was close.

[timber jolt]

I think it’s just a realization luffy had

[gritty wagon]

just a bit lol

[small root]

mihawk gave luffy his ability to see

mometarily

[sour solstice]

WHERES THE NIP

[surreal yoke]

I want to join in but I really don't have anything to add other than arguing with Adam about CoC coating

[fleet goblet]

Mihawk used Observation + Conqueror's which allowed him to send his vision to others, which allowed Luffy to see the future.

[ruby junco]

LOL

[timber jolt]

I’m gonna put on my tinfoil hat with this next point because it’s a bit crackpot

[small root]

awakened advanced haki, you can give it to others pure genius

[rough flint]

This is better than zolo's stupid kizaru benn beckman theory

[gritty wagon]

the 1010 podcast's up on yt right?

[timber jolt]

If mama dies, Zeus or the homies can still live

[surreal yoke]

yeah zyph

[gritty wagon]

I missed Evan vs. Adam

[cunning ingot]

rob i wouldn't actually be against that, for real

[fleet goblet]

hasn't happened yet zyph

[surreal yoke]

I mean, it wasn't really evan vs adam

[cunning ingot]

i get that it's a devil fruit ability, BUT it's still her like... siphoning her soul

[subtle trellis]

it was bean and I vs adam

[cunning ingot]

wait

i take it back

[rough flint]

You missed Adam beating everyone

[gritty wagon]

oh lmao

[ruby junco]

Red you have to argue against me more

[cunning ingot]

otherwise what's his face would be alive

[ruby junco]

make it even

[subtle trellis]

[timber jolt]

Pandora I think was the other sun

[cunning ingot]

carmel's fire boi would be

yah

pandora