manga-theories

[sand sail]

Akainu did dispatch Fujitora, but not just because of Luffy. He did it because two warlords and a pirate alliance were about to throw the three powers into chaos again

[near osprey]

Doflamingo abdicating his throne was a ruse by the WG because of Dofa's request to spread false information

[sand sail]

Luffy was icing on the cake, he wasn't even the one they highlighted in that entire discussion

No, it was a ruse by Doflamingo, the World Government wasn't in on it

[near osprey]

The Five Dons were

[sand sail]

That's why Akainu gets pissed about it later

[near osprey]

Akainu approached the Five Dons after he found out it was fake.

[sand sail]

Yes, that's the whole point of contention they had, he was angry that the Celestial Dragons and their secret service group got to trample all over the marines' and government's face

[near osprey]

Talking about the WG shouldn't be helping Pirates.

Because he's unaware the WG has been buying weapons from Doflamingo

[sand sail]

That's got nothing to do with it, he was upset because the Celestial Dragons were pushing the government and their positions around, and it made him look back for reacting to it

Doflamingo officially quit the warlords. He then used CP0 and by extension his pull as a Celestial Dragon to rescind it and call it all a mistake

That's why the marines act like it's official, and that's why Sakazuki is mad, because it wasn't a government ruse. It was a Celestial Dragon hissyfit.

[pure raven]

not particularly part of the conversation but if the samurai ghandi guy is about as tall as sakazuki then that makes him around 10 feet tall and if that is kotetsu III it would be about 10ft tall lol

thats bigger than yoru i think

[near osprey]

He didn't officially quit the Warlords, it was a ruse he set up with CP-0 to throw people off. That's why he was meeting with CP-0 before the SHs even arrived.

[sand sail]

Nope, he officially quit. He then went and told everyone "Just kidding it was all a mistake!"

Hence, the marines acting like it was actually happening and sending an admiral and a bunch of vice admirals to investigate

[near osprey]

He set it up to begin with to appear that he quit.

That's why it was taken back the next day when they delivered another batch of news saying it was a mistake.

[sand sail]

No, he actually resigned. That's Akainu's whole squabble, it wasn't just a ruse for the rest of the world.

He was pissed because Doflamingo, being just a little piece of trash pirate, was able to actually change the world overnight for a moment

And the marines had to actually go and react accordingly because it was official, and that made him look bad

Because CP0, the Celestial Dragons' employees, just came out and told everyone to forget it happened

[near osprey]

He did not actually resign, he met with CP-0 to put his plan in motion so on that day the official news was that he resigned and the next day the plan was to take that back saying it was simply a mistake.

He has knowledge the Celestials don't want out in the open world so he's able to make them do what he wants.

So if they dispatch CP-0 to handle shit and they work directly under the Celestials that was the intent from the get go.

Whatever reason Doflamingo wanted them for they had to fill that role.

Because he can expose what is hidden on Mariejois so they do what he wants them to do.

Simple as that.

[sand sail]

Okay, you just explained how he did officially resign, and then immediately rescinded it.

This was Sakazuki's entire problem with it, it was an actual report passed through the government. And then Doflamingo called it off.

Why he can command CP0 isn't really relevant to the conversation here, the fact of the matter is this was an official government event that happened, which is why Sakazuki had to respond appropriately to it. They held a full meeting about it and declared it true.

It was an official resignation by literally all accounts, and then the next day Doflamingo called CP0 in to have it reversed. Yes, he knew from the jump that was always what he'd do, it's not like he was just going to resign and changed his mind. But this wasn't some big government ruse, he actually dupes the government with this.

That's why he has to flex through CP0 to do it

And that's why Sakazuki gets mad, and even yells at the Gorosei about "someone higher than them" bending them to his will

[near osprey]

It can't be considered official if its haha jk the next day.

[sand sail]

By what logic?

[near osprey]

CP-0 can send the report along that he did and say it was a mistake the next day.

[sand sail]

Yes, that's what happened. He resigned for 12 hours and CP0 called it off.

That it was a short time frame isn't relevant whatsoever, the fact is it was an official happening, that was apparently the whole point of the marines actually going to Dressrosa

Because Doflamingo resigned, Law was confronting him, and Luffy was bringing up the rear

[near osprey]

The Marines went to Dressrosa because they received reports from Smoker that is where Law and Luffy were going

[sand sail]

No, Sakazuki dispatched the marines because this was a monumental event happening. They went to Dressrosa specifically because that's where it was all happening, it wasn't just Luffy and Law were headed there, it was two warlords were leaving the group at once

That's massive business lol

Luffy being part of it is what cemented him as more of a threat, but he wasn't the title fighter here

You're correct that Smoker's report was part of it, but make no mistake, the world balance is why an admiral was sent down. It's not because it was Luffy doing it, it's because of who they were pursuing.

[thick sky]

@sturdy hound major os spoiler here

[pure raven]

oh mb

[thick sky]

Nw nw.

[sturdy hound]

[bitter mesa]

Question: if the minks medicine heals the body, would that make Zoro eyes heal as well?

[waxen dust]

it’s healing not regenerative

[grizzled fog]

If It we’re gonna heal his eye it probably would’ve done so already

[radiant light]

hello daddy

[radiant oxide]

I suppose further lending to the idea that Big Mom will lose at Wano is because of Napoleon, because Trafalgar D. Water Law is a reference to "Waterloo" and Napoleon lost at Waterloo.

[near osprey]

Just came to a realization

Alright so let's consider this as a possibility. One Piece is heading into the Final Saga after Wano. Kaido and Big Mom are defeated but obviously not killed off as Oda has plans for their characters clearly for the Final Battle. I flirted with the idea of them eventually becoming allied with Luffy but maybe not. I can't imagine they'll lose hatred for Luffy after Luffy beats Kaido's ass so what's next for Kaido and Big Mom? An Alliance with Blackbeard to 1. Take down the Straw Hats and 2. To achieve their goal of conquering the World.

Now why would they ally with Blackbeard? Because of Blackbeards clear connection or interest in Xebec as his ships name is the Saber of Xebec. But would that be enough for Big Mom and Kaido to ally with him or essentially be an underling to Kaido? No but it's the best course of action for Oda to bolster up Blackbeard in being this hurdle for Luffy to surpass.

There's also the fact to consider that Blackbeard is in possession of Moria's Devil Fruit which means he could dig up Xebec's Corpse and revive him. Considering the fact Kaido and Big Mom served under Xebec on his ship it's not a far fetched idea they could pair up with Blackbeard

[pure raven]

you know Blackbeard having Moria devil fruit is speculation

[mint prairie]

I believe so as well, but I wonder if Luffy will be a part of it. He claimed he will defeat all Yonkou but, as long as the alliance beats Big Mom, will he allow himself not to deal the final blow?

[mint prairie]

I don't think he killed Moria just yet, but he might have him working under him. Reviving Rocks is a bold move and might be what BM and Kaidou need to join Blackbeard, though.
In the end, it would be a reenact of God Valley. Hell, who's to say Coby won't be a Vice-Admiral by the time that happens?
Maybe it won't be a Coby + Luffy v. Rocks, but Coby might be the driving force for a potential Strawhat-Marine alliance.

[near osprey]

@pure raven well there's the fact Moria went directly to Blackbeard's Island to try and save Absalom and it's not like Moria was able to leave Blackbeard's Island so either he killed him or forced him to work under him.

As Oda originally intended to keep Moria dead and most likely brought him back to move Blackbeard's Plot along

[radiant oxide]

Real life pirate William Kidd also had a history of going to war with France, including attacking a French island and destroying its only town, so maybe having Law and Kid fight Big Mom is foreshadowing, or maybe it isn't at all.

[near osprey]

But this is how I'd picture it going once we get to the massive war

We'd have Blackbeard, Kaido, Big Mom and Doflamingo on one side as the major players

Luffy, Kidd, Law maybe Shanks and Crocodile on the other + Luffy's Fleet

and the WG on the other assuming it's a 3-sided war

But in the end I imagine every major character that has a role to play is going to be present and it's not far fetched to picture it being split down the middle between Blackbeard and Luffy

Plus there's still the mystery around Xebec, why BBs ship is named the Saber of Xebec and his relationship with Xebec

and if Oda is saving Xebec for the end game where is he going to come in all of this.

Plus where is Moria's Fruit going to factor in all of this.

[radiant oxide]

Yeah, justifying Moria's survival after all this time is probably lending itself to Moria eventually allying with Luffy against Blackbeard for what he did to Absalom. Maybe that could even lend to a Gear 5th with Moria's Nightmare Luffy power or something.

[pure raven]

to be honest that can just be extrapolated into a back story. The massive war WB talks about is more geared towards the WG. It's alluded that there will be like just 2 sides in a war. Moria might not even be dead we have no idea what's happened to him.

[mint prairie]

Well, you have reference to both an enemy of France and a significant French defeat, both are connected through that and BM's Napoleon is also a clear tie-in. I think that's a strong point for the idea of Kid/Law defeating Big Mom.

[near osprey]

Kidd and Law are going to beat Big Mom because they have to for the plot to move forward. I don't see a situation where they succeed in Wano with Big Mom still in play.

If Big Mom wins it'd happen before Kaido and Luffy's fight reaches its climax and she'd step in and annihilate Luffy with Kaido

[radiant oxide]

Yeah, if Kid doesn't use his Conqueror's Haki against Big Mom, then I could see Kid, Law, and Luffy all defeating Big Mom together after he defeats Kaidou after massive energy drain. That way we could still say that Luffy helped defeat Big Mom, like what he told Katakuri.

[near osprey]

Well I mean we're going to need to have a war with the WG as well but there's also a war with Blackbeard to consider too.

[pure raven]

that will probably come before the One Piece

[near osprey]

Exactly

Once Yamato/Zoro and Sanji reach Admiral Power Levels we'll have the conflict with the WG

[mint prairie]

I don't think Luffy's ultimate power-up should rely on others, but I think a surviving Moria could side with Luffy if given the chance. He is presented as an alternative outcome where Luffy failed in his journey to become the Pirate King, so he could actually side with the person he sees his past self in. A last attempt at achieving a long lost dream, in a sense.

[near osprey]

Luffy vs Sakazuki
Zoro vs Fujitora
Sanji vs Kizaru
Yamato vs Ryuo

[radiant oxide]

Moria's big motivation this entire time was him gathering up zombies because of Kaidou killing his crew, so maybe Moria would respect Luffy a little more in the event Luffy defeats Kaidou, even though Moria also lost to Luffy in the past.

[wind crystal]

:o

[pure raven]

so what massive war are you talking about, the one Whitebeard said when someone finds the One Piece? because when you included the WG into it, it wouldn't match with WB said of them having to fight the big war after the treasure is found.

[near osprey]

Who knows

There's going to be a full on clash with Blackbeard and a full on clash with the WG

Maybe after they defeat Blackbeard and discover whatever is on LaughTale the WG is next

Maybe the WG also makes a move for LaughTale at the same time Blackbeard and Luffy do

Only Oda knows what he's going to do moving forward all we can do is speculate

All we know is we're moving into the end game

How that'll play out moving forward we'll only get a glimpse of after Wano

Just enough information for us to have an idea but not give it away

We'll know more about Moria's Fate and what Blackbeard is doing at Whole Cake Island, where Shank's is going and what he's doing and an idea of Sabo's actual fate after the Reverie

[reef solstice]

this is super interesting, but I think the France reference is supposed to be for Mariejois, considering Kid has shown disdain towards the CDs in the past

[near osprey]

Also what Dragon is going to do as well because there's also the factor of the Revolutionary Army to consider as well.

Oda is going to take every piece on the board and put them on their respective sides for the final clash.

[near osprey]

How do I get the ability to send pictures?

[sinful helm]

The owner of the French castle that was the inspiration for Mariejois was a multiple times traitor too his brother the king

Duke of Orleans

[low swallow]

What do y'all think is Oda's plan for Aokiji. I mean he probably isn't a complete lackey of BB. So I don't think he would straight up fight the straw hats, so what do you think his purpose is

[desert hatch]

might be part of sword

[tawdry bramble]

Nah. I think he wants to ally with Blackbeard legitimately. Kind of the good guy who joins the bad guys to take down a worse guy trope.

He sees Blackbeard as the only one who can take down the WG and eventually bring peace afterwards or something.

[restive jungle]

You need roles: #old-role-info

[low swallow]

Ooh, that's a possibility. I mean Blackbeard does have the fruit can destroy the world, so it would make sense that he wants to tap into that fruit. Now the question is whether he is a part of sword or acting independently

[tawdry bramble]

I’ll admit he’s a strong candidate for Sword but would prefer if he wasn’t so cookie cutter.

[low swallow]

But if he's a part of sword, it makes the Marines way less cookie cutter. I mean should we side with them for doing undercover deals with BB to save the world

Undercover deals with Yonko are exactly part of what the WG does that makes them so bad

[tawdry bramble]

Sword is only cool if it’s an anti establishment group. If it’s actually a marine/WG group it’s boring

Group of marines wanting to change the marine structure? I’m down with that.

[low swallow]

Yah

[odd lichen]

sabo will die + vivi. be ready guys

[sacred hawk]

For some reason, I feel like the final battle isn't going to be as straightforward as "Strawhat alliance vs. WG" or "Strawhats vs. Blackbeard"

[pure raven]

I think there will probably be 2 sides in the war, in light of the chaos the One Piece treasure would cause. Because whatever inconvenient truth it brings to the WG, they feared it would turn the world against them. Especially if the AK ideals were resurrected by Luffy.
I think the final war involves the majority of the population essentially turning against the WG. So all those countries they rule, we would see major separation.
This treasure is supposed to question the world, I don't really think there's room for a third party to have a part in the war

The world might see the idea of piracy as an actually a good thing in comparison to the picture the WG painted of it

[near osprey]

Piracy is still objectively evil in the OP Universe

Pirates like Luffy, Roger, Whitebeard are rare cases.

Most Crews tend to terrorize the Populace of the countries they're in, robbing, killing and so on.

[amber oar]

Correct

[mint prairie]

While that is true, the story also made strong points about the Marines being able to do as much evil as pirates by either action or lack thereof.
There are other examples like the Heart Pirates being chill, although Law's involvement in Rocky Port is still a thing. The Rumbar Pirates also seemed like decent people.
If anything, pirates being rough, completely free agents means they are spread wider in the moral scale, so they can be as evil as one can expect and some more, while also having some pirate crews be the very best of humanity under the right conditions.

[pure raven]

Yeah according to the WG it is. But labeling it as "evil" is more of a preconceived inconsistent conclusion in regards to how other pirates conduct themselves. But generally speaking, yeah pirates are sick fucking people

If the world gets saved by a pirate though they would probably draw a different conclusion of what thet think of them. Like what happened with Cobra.

[ashen plaza]

I personally think Revolutionary Army isnt that strong overall but they are not that weak..Let me explain, compared to the Yonku in the New World, :
1.RA seems lacking in numbers
2. Territory
3.Influence
4. Talents
5. They angered the World Government, they cant develop much because they directly provoked the government unlike the pirares ,who only provokes pirates and Marines.

I dont want to sound harsh but if RA is really that strong they wont hide ,but they did so that tells something..

Of course, Dragon should be strong but the RA overall?Nah, seems lacking to me...

---

What do you guys think?

[waxen dust]

think you need patience, Oda definitely hasn’t revealed much about the Revs yet.
RA are a threat for many reasons

[ashen plaza]

I guess so too, I just think it's hard to make a group to rebel against the government when the camp is divided to> Marine,CP,Pirates,RA>..Although, the CP members shouldnt be that many,I guess

[lone dew]

I think they are being portrayed that way currently but RA must have some tricks up it's sleeve, Dragon and Sabo deffo strong af

[tender dock]

I’d like to share a theory I have about im/imu. It might sound ridiculous or not so important, but here it is.

I think imu has 3 eyes, and third eye will be his weakness

Why?
I was doing some research and ended up finding this Mu (mythical lost continent) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(mythical_lost_continent))

So I kept digging and found a show called Metal Heroes that features a character called Emperor Kubilai.

About Metal Heroes:

“The shows were produced by Toei from 1982 through 1999 in conjunction with their other Tokusatsu superhero shows”

Toei? 1982, Oda was 7? Maybe he got inspired? 1999, One Piece started airing?

About Kubilai:

“Kubilai was the former ruler of the Mu Empire, corrupting the hearts and minds of humanity long ago until the warrior Shaider came and vanished his evil while slaughtering his son Rahu and daughter in-law.”

“Kubilai went to great lengths to ensure his weakness, his third eye, would not be revealed. “

And we’ve seen a 3 eyed creature before in One Piece, Pudding Charlotte. She is a hybrid though.

I believe Imu is a pure 3-eyed.

What do you think?

[raw grotto]

ya we might be hyping them up too much, im hoping they are atleast on the same strength of yonko crew tho

[ashen plaza]

Imu being inspired from a show could be possible. Some writers got inspirations from works that they've read/watched

[pearl wagon]

The yeti cool brothers seem like they're wearing a giant hat. It's not confirmed whether this is a straw hat or not, but looks pretty much like luffys. But where else have we seen a giant straw hat, not to mention in ice? Im's room! If the giant straw hat really was joyboy's, then the yeti cool brothers, considering they've lived for however long yetis can live may have a connection to joyboy. This is really farfecthed but it's very possible that the yeti cool brothers have a straw hat.

[ashen shard]

Usopps getting kings haki

[warm saffron]

I bet you Blackbeard’s gonna be the last yonko luffy will fight to get to the one piece, and then it will be imu

I also bet sabo is either dead or is about to get a marineford
This is because of the hints:

1. When they show the faded image of the dead person from the reverie for the front page at Morgan’s, it had a resemblance to that of sabo
2. After blackread read the news, he immediately wanted to go to the reverie
3. The revolutionary army were shocked by the news on the paper
   I bet you that after luffy leaves wano, first place he’s gonna go is to marineford to try and save his brother, and there will be luffy’s grand fleet of over 5,000, along with the revolutionary army,versing the marines with bleackbeard making a surprise entrance all for sabo

[lone dew]

I like this, maybe the Yeti bros are D clan too, amazing how JoyBoy and the D clan and the straw hat are all connected.

[tender dock]

Also adding to my theory, that emperor Kubilai rules the Fuuma.

About the Fuuma:

“The residents of this realm revere Kubilai as a god while carrying out his intent of conquering the universe through psychological attacks on many planets, destroying worlds like Gao, Omega, Mind, Gor, Marine, and Mount before targeting Earth to establish the second Mu Empire.”

So if he/she’s a pure 3-eyed, I believe that how he was able to control the Gorosei and WG, psychologically.

[flat locust]

If thats true, completely or partially most likely... All i want to see is Luffy's Whitebeard moment , and i believe if anything like you said happens , it will be on much Grander scale this time. Oda said that Marineford arc will look like a firecracker in front of the Great War. I believe that would be mainly because of involvement of Ancient Weapons.
Luffy's gonna get his Whitebeard moment but this time pirates are going to win as they will pickup a Ancient Weapon on their way to get there. Most Probably Franky will build Pluton , and our Beloved Poseidon will join Strawhats (i dont mean permanent 'join' lol) , as Big mom no longer controls Fishman Island. Maybe Blackbeard or Imu will have get their hands on Uranus..

[warm saffron]

That would be awesome

[flat locust]

As one piece is all about two sides of the same coin , which oda keeps reminding us again n again n again.. its highly possible.

Whitebeard = The closest man to One Piece attacked Marineford to save a nakama , failed to save , failed to defeat marines , died in battle.
Flip the coin, We get,

Luffy's Whitebeard moment = The Man who found one piece , Attacks Marineford to save nakama , Successfully saves , defeats the Marines , Gets out of it Alive.

[warm saffron]

I can already picture the scene of the mugiwara pirates, luffy’s grand fleet, some of wano’s samurai, and the fishmen vs more than one hundred thousand marines and cp-o and Blackbeard pirates

[flat locust]

I'm still grinding between that image and the skypeia one piece theory,
I am guessing the real thing will be involving both of them mixing smoothly somehow

[warm saffron]

What’s the skypeia one piece theory?

[flat locust]

Omg if you haven't haerd this, you're lucky you have a chance of hearing it for the first time and having your mind blown to bits 😂😂

This one got Viral instantly , actually it existed for quite sometime , but this theory was in Japanese , only recently Ohara made it into English amd the western one piece fanbase lost their minds over this. Yujiron , the guy who originally gave this theory is regarded one of the best one piece theorists of from Japan.. here's a link lol , this got so viral reaction channels had a good time making vids for this😛

https://youtu.be/qYzqDJBeI9Q

[pure raven]

I saw that Ohara website is in hiatus. Is there another good website for reading about insights in each chapter like in Ohara?

[flat locust]

There are two Ohara actually , This one is Ohara the fox , i think you're talking about The library of ohara maybe..

[pure raven]

Oh. Is there someone who produces content like The library of Ohara?

[severe edge]

I think many people misunderstand as to how the SHs really look like to people inside the one piece world, to us they definitely feel like heroes of some sort but when you really think about it the actions the SHs have taken all would indicate to the really common mentality you see in villains with a cause that is "the destruction of something only leads to the the creation of something better" wherever the SHs have been the place has been followed up with destruction in some sense they're harbingers of destruction what they destroy only really matters to the ones involved in this destruction first hand and only they can really show the gratitude towards the SHs for destroying their own country to all the other people the SHs are terrifying because they don't know the full story and they have practically no way to do so either

[mint prairie]

[pure raven]

This is super unlikely

[warm saffron]

Ok....watched it, and it made a lot of sense, but, there was one thing that confused me, if Raftel is there in enies lobby, how come roger went to the new world to find it, it would’ve been much more easier being in the grand line

[pure raven]

I was thiking the same

[warm saffron]

Yeah, it’s the only part that doesn’t make sense

[severe edge]

Roger didn't know where raftel was

[pure raven]

The 4 phoneglyphs are stated to point to Raftel, right? Or is that an assumption thus far?

[severe edge]

That's not an assumption

[mint prairie]

Only certain places like Baratie, Kokoyashi VIllage, the Sakura Kingdom, Alabasta (although unofficially), Dressrosa, Skypeia/Shandia, Water 7, Fishman Island, and soon enough Wano are aware of the Straw Hats' feats and true nature. Out of these, only Sakura Kingdom, Alabasta (to some extent), and Fishman Island have expressed in one way or another that the Straw Hats are on a good light for them (at the Reverie, I might be wrong).
To the rest of the world, only reports from Morgans and official statements by the Marines/WG are what's known about them, so it's not a good perspective. If anything, they are more on the terrorist/villain side than how Dragon is portrayed so far.

[severe edge]

Yep

[warm saffron]

It would’ve been easy since it was only in the grand line and not in the new world
I think that enies lobby is hiding something, but it’s not raftel

[mint prairie]

Oh, it's Denies Lobby hours again.

[pure raven]

On another hand, I feel like numbers in Japanese can be converted to mean so many different things, that most chapter/date number->revelation theories are rather flexible

[severe edge]

Well... He had no clue it was in the enies lobby he went to new world to actually get clue as to where raftel would be he's not just gonna raid a random government facility and hope raftel's there

[mint prairie]

Indeed. Just look at Yuderon's (the author of Denies Lobby stuff) number puns for any chapter and you can see he can come up with up to 4 puns for an unreleased chapter and up to 8-10 for a released chapter.

Goroawase is extremly flexible and you can make numbers mean nearly anything you want.

[velvet zephyr]

hi what’s the topic?

[mint prairie]

Denies Lobby again.

[flat locust]

Exactly, well oda has already said that no one is close to the exact location of laugh tale and one piece till now 😂
But this theory made the most sense for me, the word play , the number playoda does which we English community dont always get were fabulous

[velvet zephyr]

interesting, im with ohara’s theory

[pure raven]

The whole right eye pattern is indeed interesting and may be intentional, and it might be that such portion of the island is indeed elsewhere, but everything else in that video seems very flexible, including any word play with the D, numbers, and round-shaped-islands fitting the shape of an eye.

Sorry, left eye.

[warm saffron]

But then that just makes the search to be too easy
Oda is trying to wrap one piece up by the end of 2024, with how the mugiwara’s have devoted their attention to the red ponelgliffs, but this clue would be way too simple
Oda is making this manga like it’s the watchmen of anime, I doubt that the one piece is in denies lobby, but maybe it could be the third weapon after two have been talked about, with one having the plans for building it destroyed and the second being only young

[flat locust]

However the concept of Inverted stories or two sides of same coin is pretty clear , there are literally too many of these to neglect

[warm saffron]

Yeah, it truly was, and it opened up my eyes

[warm saffron]

Maybe it would have something relating to the other yonko’s, like shanks or Blackbeard

I feel like I’ve livened up this chat

[pure raven]

I also see a pattern of many readers considering things to be Oda's mastery in foreshadowing, when it might just be that Oda intentionally includes a lot of elements in each story, so that later on he can look back and use any of those elements to produce connected storylines.

[pure raven]

Isn't this mostly dependent on interpretation?

[mint prairie]

I'm not on Ohara's side because there is too much stuff filled in with interpretations and not evidence. Plenty of the material exposed in that theory is framed to fit perfectly in long stretches that can only make sense within that exact frame, which is heavily reliant on the idea that Oda has calculated every single chapter the theory attempts to tie together, despite being proven multiple times Oda likes to hammer stuff in just because he thinks it's cool (see the last minute Supernova).

[warm saffron]

Makes sense, if anything, the moment luffy and his crew stepped into the new world, he had begun the wano arc

[pure raven]

I suppose an island like Wano was always in his mind, since it is the island connected to Japanese history and geography

[flat locust]

I was sceptical too , untill this ohara guy went totally into the japanese theory world and got more content for English Speaking Community
The guy literally became middleman for both theory worlds 😂
Yudiron the original guy who gave that theory ; Ohara went ahead and took his interview and uploaded it woth english subtitles , give it a watch , its just another bazooka like the Skypeia Theory ,
P.s The thing you said about it being open to interpretation , you'll see why inverted story thing is a sure solid thing in one piece

https://youtu.be/zxk1rkRinec

[mint prairie]

[warm saffron]

Well, we’ll just have wait and see what oda will do in the future with the mugiwara crew
But, since luffy is seen to be like roger by others in the one piece universe, maybe the story will end the same way that Rogers story did, which would be sad but fitting for a pirate king

[pure raven]

Do you all think that we will get closure on most big things before it ends? It seems like after a thousand chapters we are not very close to solving any mystery laid out thus far. Japanese media can always count on novels or anime for more details, but it would be nice if One Piece the manga really manages to tie all knots.

[severe edge]

What? I don't remember anyone tie luffy to roger. It's usually joyboy luffy is tied to

[pure raven]

I feel like we keep being introduced to mysteries, but no answers, and Nico Robin doesn't talk about them with the crew.

[pure raven]

I already seen it before, it honestly just proved why I shouldn't watch him😖
He's not very good with making deductions, when he heavily relies on interpretation as his source of evidence.

[mint prairie]

I watch Yuderon whenever he uploads, but I think you should all exercise some scepticism. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Yuderon loves to come up with a lot of stuff that most of the time never sticks the landing except from one or two puns. Try writing your own thoughts and review what's thrown around out there so the channel doesn't become a daily struggle of Denies Lobbyists and Deniers.

[warm saffron]

I’d say so, oda wouldn’t leave us hanging, unless he died

[mint prairie]

[pure raven]

I suppose he left it all written just in case?

Certainly among the most best-selling comics and most-watched TV shows of the decade, he probably had to leave a note just in case?

[warm saffron]

Douglass bullet was reminded of roger when fighting luffy, same with shiki, there’s more, but that’s off the top of my head

[warm saffron]

Yeah, if he dies, then the editors would know how to end the story, and won’t leave us hanging

[mint prairie]

The barkeeper from Loguetown, Smoker, Crocus, Kureha, Silvers Rayleigh.

[severe edge]

Hmmm fair

[mint prairie]

Scratch the barkeep, I can't even remember if he is canon or not.

[pure raven]

What is the latest expected end date of the manga? 5 years from 2020?

[warm saffron]

He should be, his scenes weren’t for a movie

[warm saffron]

I heard it would be 2024, when in 2024, I don’t know, but he did this before, during skypeia

[mint prairie]

Nevermind.

[pure raven]

Thanks. Sounds like 200 chapters then

So much to unpack in so little hehe

[pearl wagon]

Raoul to roger is makino to luffy

[mint prairie]

It seems everyone involve in the manga is pressing down on the five-year rough estimate. I don't expect it to be the case, but there is a real desire to end the story within the current decade.

[warm saffron]

I bet you he will do what he did when tried to end it five years after he created the manga, and just continue on

[pure raven]

By the way inversion can be anything you make of it.
Zoro & Ussop | bravery vs cowardness
Nami & Luffy | intelligence vs dumb

Just find an opposite trait and you got an inversion!

[mint prairie]

I know Zoro has been getting some Ls recently, but he is not that much of a coward.

Nami has been the behind the scenes captain for so long because Oda really loves her. It seems only natural she has been shown as the intellectual opposite to Luffy.

[pure raven]

Right! But it seems at least now most of the characters have been shown? Except for Imu and the admiral. If he introduces any other big batch of big names, then we're definitely getting a big postponement of end date

[warm saffron]

Also, with that theory video on skypeia, remembering that oda tried to finish one piece around the skypeia arc, maybe he put all those hints in there, thinking that enies lobby would be perfect to end things at that point in time, and then decided that only one thing would end, and tow things appear

[pure raven]

Had no idea he was supposed to end it there. That makes sense if so

[warm saffron]

Looking at how one piece is going, If oda doesn’t end it, I bet it will go on forever

[pure raven]

Hopefully he has the rights to control that

In whatever contract he has with the publishing company

[mint prairie]

The rights but not necessarily the will. He loves what he does, to the point he has to be constantly told to take breaks so he doesn't die an early death.

The story will go for as long as he wants it because he really doesn't like telling himself "no". Not like it's a bad thing, but that makes the recurring 5-year estimates decrease in value.

[warm saffron]

Also, about that new admiral
Akainu means red dog
Issho means purple wysteria
And the hidden admirals name means green bull

[pure raven]

Oh I forgot Vegapunk, he has also yet to show up

I don't read any theories, but is there any expectaiton on who Imu might be?

[warm saffron]

There was one earlier saying that he might have three eyes

[mint prairie]

赤犬 ー Akainu ー Red Dog
青雉ー Aokijiー Blue Pheasant
黄猿 ー Kizaru ー Yellow Monkey
藤虎 ー Fujitora ー Purple Tiger
緑牛 ー Ryokugyu ー Green Bull
桃兎 ー Momousagi ー Pink Rabbit
茶豚 ー Chaton ー Brown Pig

[pure raven]

and then Garp

[flat locust]

Yeah you're right about that , but for me in all of the theories i have read as of yet, these made the most sense to me

[ashen plaza]

This works in Chinese letters too, I dont know if chinese letters is the term..Dont mind me

[mint prairie]

Garp has not been given a name in the same structure as the Admirals because he hasn't been one yet. Momousagi and Chaton are especial cases born out of SBS releases.

[mint prairie]

I have no idea what is the Chinese name for Kanji, to be honest, but yeah, the readings are mostly the same because of how Japanese works.

[ashen plaza]

Additionally,

Lou = Law
Logue Town > Rogue Town

I've been reading Chinese OP fanfics and I recognized some terms XD

[mint prairie]

There are theories on Imu being:

• A woman
• Three eyed
• Immortal either voluntarily or not
• Related to Joyboy himself
• Owner of a mythical Zoan I can't recall but it's something water related
• Related to some weird mystical clan Mihawk must be part of as well because of the similar eyes

Not sure of any others, though.

[pure raven]

Kanji means Chinese letter, and is pronounced Hanzi in Mandarin iirc

Rogue Town is the official name? I never thought of that hehe

[mint prairie]

Loguetown has a some fun puns like Lo -> Law, Logue -> Rogue, Logue -> Prologue + Epilogue.

I'm pretty sure it's Loguetown. It is also called "The town of beginnings and ends" because Roger was born (beginning) and executed (end) there, and also because most pirate crews from the East Blue make a last stop at Loguetown before going to the Reverse Mountain and into the Grand Line (beginning), but they are often busted by Smoker (end). It plays on the "Logue" root of Prologue (beginning) and Epilogue (end).

[quartz python]

If One Piece had a next gen like Naruto/Boruto, Who would the next Pirate King/Queen be? I'm willing to bet on Otama because she has the ability to tame any animal, maybe even Fishmen and Sea Kings. She also has the willpower of a Samurai, and has been attempting to become a shinobi since she met Ace. By the time she leaves Wano, she's already around Shichibukai level (guessing).

[pure raven]

Yeah... the world-building is so great that there are countless side-stories to be told till the end of time :p

[shut copper]

Sanji and Zoro will die in wano

[warm saffron]

Y do you say that?

[static anvil]

Maybe luffy's son or daughter

[mint prairie]

I've seen plenty of bad takes, especially on break week, but this is beyond your average Morj levels of bad takes.

[restive ice]

this isn’t a theory but more of a prediction to tell what happens after wano. So i think that Sabo’s captured or dead and as we know cp0 is about to capture Nico Robin and i think they will suceed. I think the revolutionary army comes to wano helps luffy and goes to marejois to avenge or save nico robin and sabo. the battle’s tough shanks arrive shank sacrifices helps luffy win and gives him the road poneglyph and tells him he mist defeat blackbeard. blackbeard and luffy fight on luffy’s journey to raftel and then THE END

[mint prairie]

I understand that this is no theory, but I don't think we've got anything to go by for Shanks having a Poneglyph.
I would definitely like reviewing the existing material in order to support a prediction like yours, though. Shanks definitely needs to serve a purpose in the current age.

I can see an scenario where all of what you said happens except from Shanks because he is too much of a black box that is frustratingly letting nothing out.

[ashen plaza]

What is name of the marine skills set? The translation says > Marine Six Forms or Six styles or something.. Is it rokushiki?

[mint prairie]

六式 -> Roku-shiki -> Six Styles. It is translated as either Six Forms or Six Styles, but the Viz manga translates it as Six Powers.

[ashen plaza]

It's amazing how Rokushiki wasn't leaked that much

Imagine if the majority of the pirates learned it or a portion

I could even see it being sold in auctions

[mint prairie]

It is strictly taught to Marines above a certain rank and Cipher Pol agents, so the chances of it leaking are extremely low. Vergo knew about it, and some Charlotte family members can jump on the air, but that's pretty much it. Vergo was a spy for Doflamingo so it makes sense he could learn it. I have no idea of where the Charlotte members learned it, though.
It is also stated it requires a lot of training and is possibly harder to develop than Armament Haki.

[warm saffron]

Where is the 4th road ponelgliff located?
Kaido has one
Big mom has one
The minks have one
But the the 4th ponelgliff, which was originally at fishmen island is missing, where is it?

[proud tree]

Imus basement ... To prevent the rise of the next pirate king

[warm saffron]

I really want to know why you say two main side characters are going to die, Sanji just got an upgrade, and zoro is doing great against king

You haven’t stated that as a theory, but more as a fact

[rugged cove]

i think he is joking maybe

[ashen plaza]

Oda better give us an ending that isnt rushed. Naruto and Bleach gave me abrupt endings :(

[warm saffron]

Idk, because it was blunt it didn’t feel like this person was joking around and actually believed oda would kill two main side characters that actually helped make this anime big

[warm saffron]

I’ve heard that bleach will be back with an extra 20 episodes this year

[ashen plaza]

The manga bro..I dont like the ending that much.not saying it's bad,it just felt rushed

[warm saffron]

Oh....the manga....I thought you were talking about the anime
Because I’m watching the anime as we type and i haven’t read the manga....so.....ok

[ashen plaza]

Ohh.. It's still worth it, a classic ...That being said ,the last arc is awesome! Making a satisfying ending is just hard,I guess

[warm saffron]

Ok, well, when I’m finished watching the anime I’ll read the last arc and enjoy it, I’ve heard that it’s good, so I can’t wait

[proud tree]

Luffy will become Pirate king at the end of the series, and overthrow or reform the WG smh ...

[ashen plaza]

I want to believe that Kuina and Tashigi are the same person ...but,damn..there's not much to say tbh.. Oda ,why make them look similar?!!

[steady minnow]

idk bro let me ask me rq

[mint prairie]

The Bleach manga released a special one shot that seemingly hints at the publication of one last arc in the near future.

I wouldn't get my hopes high, but it is out there if you want to give it a check.

[outer birch]

What’s that

[ashen plaza]

I just check the chap..Seems promising ... The approach is definitely different to Boruto as well

[tropic surge]

Do the road poneglyphs line up indicating Laugh Tale? Or is it a misconception by people? Forgot if they mentioned it in canon

[ashen plaza]

Isnt 3 Poneglyph enough already?? If you would just form a Cross "X" ?? Each poneglyph on the endpoints??

Or just use the 3 points as a ...err..Just search seismograph test(not sure if correct term) the principle is the same..just approximate it..Basically, form a circle around the Point, do it 3x with different points then you would pretty much nail it

I guess

[glossy sorrel]

You don't know where the line will be from the 3rd to the 4th tho, nothing says it'll form a perfect X. You'd basically have to search all along the line between points 1 and 2

[tropic surge]

Nah

My theory is that if pomeglyph do indeed line up, is that the 4th somehow has to be moving? To match zunisha?

[glossy sorrel]

And with the way the grand line and new world works you couldn't really sail that line properly anyway. Speaking of which, idk how they'll actually get to raftel after finding where it is xd

[glossy sorrel]

So you think one of the road poneglyphs points to zunesha?

[tropic surge]

2 by 2 i guess?

[glossy sorrel]

(I know one is housed there but it doesn't mean any point there)

[tropic surge]

That and another one form a line, the other 2 form another to intersect it

[glossy sorrel]

Unless I've mistaken it, it's not where the road poneglyph is but where it leads to

[ashen plaza]

Or the 4th one got destoryed or hidden..However, asking Rayleigh should solve the problem??

[glossy sorrel]

They can be moved anywhere in the world if you have the equipment but that doesn't change the location of raftel

[tropic surge]

Are we on the same page the roads poneglyph form an X? that's the starting point

Idk how to clarify what I mean..

[ashen plaza]

I could imagine One Piece being a Long Ass Book containing the history

[glossy sorrel]

I thought you were saying that zunesha is one of the 4 points that intersect to show raftel?

[tropic surge]

Assuming each poneglyph is a point of an X, they line 2 to 2.
A
B+C
D

So if you move, let's say C, then B has to move accordingly

Or maybe that's related to zuneisha curse and its specific path?

[glossy sorrel]

No no, the poneglyph's themselves aren't the points on the map

[proud tree]

It could also be a sleeping monster that is waiting to be woken up by its finder

[glossy sorrel]

They mark a point somewhere in the world, unless I'm severely misunderstanding it

Like they themselves are a map somewhere? Hence why the crew need a copy of the inscriptions but not the stone itself

[tropic surge]

Hmm maybe I misunderstood it

[glossy sorrel]

Because all they need is the map not the object

[tropic surge]

Yeah that makes sense, else just knowing the location would do

[glossy sorrel]

Tbf tho I do see your logic, but ye as you say there ^^^

[proud tree]

the position of the road poneglyph is irrelevant you can move it wherever you want ... the text only Robin can read is the important part

So Robin is the only person in the world that can find One Piece alone.

[ashen plaza]

What if ..One Piece is actually is a TV or something that plays history..As for why there's not much technology in OP, it got monopolized by the WorldGov't

[proud tree]

and Germa66 had high cloning technology as well

now I assume big mom destroyed their technology or took it over, but she cant use it

So Zorros family is from Wano confirmed? And all cursed blades are from Wano, right?

[tropic surge]

Wait actually you are right. If you have 3, you could figure out which of the two form a line, then you at least know the island is somewhere along that line

[ashen plaza]

Hopefully,Oda wont make the line ,cross the world lmao

[tropic surge]

That sounds like oda

[ashen plaza]

But still sounds doable imo

[proud tree]

arent 2 point enough to make the line?

[tropic surge]

I also like the theory of the readline and grandline drawing the big X

[ashen plaza]

If you have the manpower

[proud tree]

only if you have Robin to read the stones though

[tropic surge]

But you don't know if those two points are a line, or let's say, the "right corners" of the X

So youd get a <

This is confusing without drawings

[ashen plaza]

On the other hand, One Piece should be something useless the to World Govt because the 5elders should knew it anyway and the CDs doesnt care anyway

[proud tree]

why dont the 5elders care? they want to kill Robin so no one can find it?

[tropic surge]

Yeah there's definitely some incriminating shit it sounds like, regarding the void century

[ashen plaza]

I mean they dont care what One Piece is,because they knew what it is already..Not because of the danger

[tropic surge]

This I agree yeah

But also wouldn't they want to get rid of any evidence?

[proud tree]

the only evidence left are Poneglyphs

[ashen plaza]

Well, the 5elders should be restricted or something

[tropic surge]

Akainu seemed unsure on going all in to wano, so maybe they really can't commit to chasing them

[proud tree]

and the Poneglyph on fishmen island was stolen already

[ashen plaza]

I actually think Imu and Joy boy made a bet..and Imu honors the bet so she/he doesnt bully Joy boy's lineage?

[tropic surge]

I'm assuming there's a more revealing one in laugh tale?

But oda doesn't really resolve stuff so obviously, so there's something else perhaps

[proud tree]

The government cant find One Piece .... because they are enemys (secret friends over Doflamingo) of Yonko.

[proud tree]

I wonder why does the Government not kill all Ds? Why do they let people like Garp live that are D?

[tropic surge]

It seems like the D thing isn't as obvious in universe. More like a legend

[ashen plaza]

I actually think because all natives are D people! They just erased the D surnames overtime because they got purged ..this is actually a top secret..

The CD ,Imu are invaders of the planet

.yeah,sound bs but

[tropic surge]

But they have also killed people for less

[proud tree]

I thought fishmen where original natives

[ashen plaza]

I mean, fishmen under the sea

Hmmm..that being said

But..there's obviously native people in OP

[proud tree]

yeah on a 99% sea planet

and all others like Enel come from Moon

[tropic surge]

There's the redline dwellers I guess?

[ashen plaza]

One Piece...hmmm... I could imagine One piece as something technological, no cap!

[tropic surge]

Reading theories from some many sources I'm already mixing up what's Canon and what's pure fiction

[proud tree]

they are winged people like Shandorians, Birkans and Skypians ... I think they are basically tribes

if you mean Kings race ... who have big wings

here is confirmation Birkans (Enel is birkan btw) think god comes from the moon

[ashen plaza]

Sadly,Enel was introduced early..He should return as a powerhouse

Same with Crocodile ,but he would return

[tropic surge]

Skypiea is the arc I have less fresh in my mind, and it seems one of the most key ones for the endgame

[ashen plaza]

Luffy vs Rob lucci was heartbreaking. Luffy got beaten up pretty hard that time,and he is as resilient

[proud tree]

Here Urouge drawn by Oda as a child ... was born with Wings

so he is Skypian/Shandorian or Birkan ... or an entirely different Sky island we never heard about

and here the most important lore drop in the series, that confirms Sky Islands are made out of Seastone + Clouds ... their wings look similar to Urouges wings in child stadium

[ashen plaza]

Another evidence that the CD came from another planet or moon is because of their culture, surnames and norms..

[proud tree]

Birkans, Skypians and Shandorians also come from the moon ... so not just CD

[ashen plaza]

There might be a higher island somewhere ... hmm?Laftel?

[proud tree]

Shandorians actually protected the Poneglyphs against foreign invaders ... so they where enemies of the CD?

[proud tree]

Imagine Uroge comes from Laftel lmao

[ashen plaza]

Who knows,no one said Laftel is special, only One piece is special XD..The place itself might be ordinary but the things are special

[proud tree]

you are right ... for all we know One Piece coul dbe hidden below Luffy starting village

[tropic surge]

what was CD again?

[ashen plaza]

Celestial Dragons

People with wings vs Fake Dragons??hmmm ,and celestial is something related to SkY,god etc

[tropic surge]

I think I saw these specific panels on the sub, so this is fresh yeah, but ty for bringing it back

[tropic surge]

Oh, not used to the acronym

[ashen plaza]

In fact, the 5elders and Imu might actually be the only foreign people..coz the CD people came from the old founders,but they all ...died??

[tropic vapor]

my theory is that there isnt any theory that can be correct about the ending

[proud tree]

I will wait for Anime confimation ... but it seems like King can fly with his own wings without using his devil fruit ...

[tropic vapor]

D is a smile

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-d-luffy-luffy-smile-grinning-grin-gif-22089071

[proud tree]

yeah not all theories are about the ending ... and some things are confirmed already: Luffy will become PK and go to Laftel

[tropic vapor]

D are the happiest people in the world or something, Law breaks that theory tho

[tropic surge]

an argument could be made for him being in a constant state of half transformation I guess?

[near osprey]

Yeah people who argue that the raid is going to fail have not been watching Wano

[proud tree]

but in his transfomration he has no feathers

[near osprey]

Seeing these earlier moments makes me wonder why anyone thinks they'll fail.

[tropic vapor]

Nah, it could be that Luffy will fight the WG to be considered the King of the Pirates or something, idk

[ashen plaza]

Because the raid isnt 100% smooth, it's normal to doubt the success of the raid.. Luffy even got smacked right at the beginning

[tropic surge]

I think it would be something different story wise, while also building up Kaido as the unstoppable monster

[tropic surge]

I think it would be something different story wise, while also building up Kaido as the unstoppable monster

[near osprey]

Luffy out here with a whole ass plague running through his system talking about by the time he leaves it'll be a country where Tama can eat all she wants

[near osprey]

Yeah but that'd be indicative of Kaido being the final hurdle in that case which he is far from.

He's supposed to come off as an unstoppable force

[tropic surge]

They already raided a yonkou, and it was a success, technically, so having another successful one.. Might be tad repetitive?

[near osprey]

Luffy didn't fight Big Mom directly though he was only there to get Sanji back.

and it ended with him facing Katakuri who was First Mate

[tropic surge]

Yeah, but in this case the target of the raid is taking kaido down

[near osprey]

Exactly

[proud tree]

the navy clearly won marine ford: they killed the last ancient giant and had his corpse, while Moria had to run away ... gigantification research

[ashen plaza]

How I think this arc would end:

CP would interrupt >Get Robin when the Straw hats were relaxing after the raid

Fans:

[near osprey]

Of course if Luffy has to take down a Yonko they'll want to make the odds seem impossible people probably thought the same of Doflamingo when none of his attacks were working.

Kaido is this massive overbearing mega tank

[ashen plaza]

I highly doubt Luffy would become a yonko after this arc.. I just dont think he could 1v1 a yonko..He is near ,though

[proud tree]

yeah the only arc where luffy looses will be marineford

[near osprey]

He already is a Yonko he was named the 5th Emperor after Whole Cake but now he's here to prove himself worthy of that name.

[proud tree]

where he had not his crew to back him

[near osprey]

He lost in Sabaody too the entire crew did. None of them could stop Kuma when they thought he was killing them off.

[proud tree]

he will be 3rd emperor, after Kaido and BM are thrown off Yonko Status

after Shanks and BB

[ashen plaza]

No bro, that's Morgan spreading fake news.. Blackbeard is atleast near admiral when the Marine Ford arc ended,luffy doesnt seem that strong compared to blackbeard pre time skip

[near osprey]

He'll be 3rd and Kidd will be 4th

[tropic surge]

I kinda don't want him to take kaido down, at least not by himself

[near osprey]

I do tf I want to see Luffy start to peak

[proud tree]

he had help from 15 people .. its not a pure 1v1

[near osprey]

24 years of build up for this arc

[ashen plaza]

That being said, I want to see who would rise as a new emperor of the sea.. luffy wont count,yet, imo ..

[near osprey]

Now the glass is starting to spill over.

[proud tree]

luffy had help from 15 other fighters, Kidd, Killer, Zorro, 9 scabbards, Mink army ... idk that is not a 1v1 but war

[near osprey]

It is a war yes.

[tropic surge]

It seems he's getting too ahead of the other supernovas, which is taking a bit of the world building magic for me. I know the story heavily relies on the chosen one™️ archetype so I'll just have to deal with it ig

[near osprey]

The Big Three of the Supernova Gen is Luffy, Kidd and Law each one will rise above their current standing post Wano

[tropic surge]

For sure, but I mean the way they'll frame him being taken down

[ashen plaza]

Luffy is like Sun Wukong..ohh wait

[near osprey]

People give Kidd a lot of flack but man went up against Shanks and was betrayed by Apoo and Kaido fell right in front of them.

[proud tree]

I pray that Uroge is secretly super strong... he already defeated a Pacifista pre timeskip ... and Sweat General Snack after ts

[near osprey]

Luffy would've been in the same situation if that had happened to him.

We already know Kidd has CoC

[proud tree]

Yasopp took kidds arm imo .. so Kidd will be afraid of Usopp

[near osprey]

Odds are after Wano there'll be an Alliance between Blackbeard,Big Mom and Kaido

[proud tree]

Yasopp could have conquerors haki

[tropic surge]

From what I've seen this argument gets kind of messy in the sub, so don't want to dwell on it too much but yeah I agree. At least I want to be shown one of his feats

[pearl wagon]

All of shanks main 3 commanders probably have it

[proud tree]

Is Yasopp one of his 3 main commanders?

[near osprey]

Kidd will get a lot more development time post Wano as I imagine he'll join Luffy for the remainder of his journey as Law will as well.

[pearl wagon]

Yeah

[near osprey]

I imagine him and Luffy will have a duel as well.

[proud tree]

Usopp could somehow have inherited his fathers Conquerors Haki ... he was kinda stubborn in his fight vs Luffy

[near osprey]

Either Oda will write it as a stalemate or Luffy comes out on top I'm leaning more towards stalemate

[pearl wagon]

They definitely will, to become pirate king he'll have to beat every yonko

[near osprey]

But no doubt Luffy and Kidd will both come out of Wano as Yonko

[proud tree]

was BM a yonko when Roger was PK?

[tropic surge]

Honestly I don't see him facing kidd seriously. Considering how much alleged time there's left of story, and we have to deal with Shanks and Blackbeard

[proud tree]

you think Yasopp took Kids left arm?

[near osprey]

It'll be like Whitebeard vs Roger

[tropic surge]

And one piece/laugh tale plus I assume an epilogue of the aftermath

[near osprey]

No Yasopp is a sharpshooter I doubt he shot Kidds arm off.

[tropic surge]

That I can see yeah

[proud tree]

Yasopp can use conquerors Haki with his bullets to deal more explosion damage

[near osprey]

Kidd was set up as Luffy's equal as far back as Sabaody when Kidd had a higher bounty

[proud tree]

*could

[near osprey]

and there interactions are indicative of that relationship

[pearl wagon]

It's not revealed who the yonko were in rogers era, the only person i think could be a yonko back then is xebec, and big mom was in his crew.

[near osprey]

Plus the little rivalry they had when they were in Kaido's Prison is indicative of the fact they're equal in terms of strength

and the way they charged Onigashima

[ashen plaza]

If the WorldGovt is taking Robin more seriously now, the CP 0 near them should be near Admiral level..I dont think the WorldGovt wont have any near Admiral or Admiral lvl CP 0 agent

[proud tree]

Big Mom should have still way more Health points left then Kaido .. Kidd will have to usee the iron from the armory

[tropic surge]

Yeah but one of them technically freed the other, and rn luffy is facing the main antagonist, while kidd is holding another yonkou alongside law

It's those little things plus an actual shown feat that fails to deliver in the promise methinks

[near osprey]

Well picture it like this right, Kaido and Big Mom were both on Xebec's ship with that past relationship already existing Big Mom/Kaido are probably a parallel to how Zoro/Sanji's relationship is.

[proud tree]

I think CP0 relies on science like Germa66 and maybe specialized Devilfruits

[broken kelp]

Man though I can't say much. Wano has thrown us for such a loop I won't be surprised if shanks pops in at some point

[near osprey]

So with that in mind Kaido and Big Mom are probably both still equal in terms of strength

So even though Luffy is taking on Kaido, Kidd is taking on Big Mom with Law

[ashen plaza]

It would be hard to get to Wano without the Marines not discovering it

[proud tree]

first handle CP0 before getting even more players in imo

[near osprey]

They'll both succeed in taking down absolute monsters of characters

[ashen plaza]

Let's add Blackbeard to the mix

[near osprey]

Blackbeard is moving for Whole Cake currently

[broken kelp]

Yeah I can agree with all that but I feel that shanks might come in last minute to assist with a exit strategy seeming as robins Bounty is probably gonna go off the chain

[near osprey]

CP-0 won't succeed in capturing Robin

There's too many forces on Wano who could stop them.

If they did capture Robin we'd get Enies Lobby 2.0 and I don't see it happening

[tropic surge]

This also makes it for a better distraction

[proud tree]

he will get Pudding ad awaken her 3 eye powers smh?

[broken kelp]

Well I think that it's gonna get a bit chaotic they could possibly summon admirals to wano and all that

[ashen plaza]

The CP 0's shouldnt be that weak,they have the WorldGovt behind them, dont compare it to CP 9

[near osprey]

Odds are they'll settle for Who's Who

[tropic surge]

There's a lot of parties in wano, and a lot of reminders that pirate alliances don't work

[near osprey]

Yes but CP-0 is ran by Rob Lucci who Luffy already defeated

[ashen plaza]

Yes,but CP 0 should also have ranks

[proud tree]

no there is no indication Lucci is their boss.. he was just relaying orders

[pearl wagon]

Here's a weird theory.

In rayleighs flashback to when roger asked him to help him turn the world upside down roger looked around 20 or 30 years old, but when he became pirate king he was 50? I don't get it. While this could just mean that he took a break like luffy but instead for 10 years, i don't really think that's what happened. I'm still thinking about what could happen, my first thought was he had to show his worth by staying on laugh tale for 10 years or something, but that's absurd, plus, none of the crew aged. I'm still thinking about it, but what do you guys think?

[broken kelp]

And it's not like they cannot summon a admiral if not multiple considering the danger that luffy is now and robin and the rest of the crew

[near osprey]

Yeah but they can't spend that many resources on Wano right now they are still trying to capture the Shicibukai

[tropic surge]

Hopefully lucci also has post time skip new/improved abilities

[near osprey]

CP-0 is alone with the forces they were given.

[proud tree]

I think it has something to do with his disease that practically killed him

[broken kelp]

God the marines are fucking idiots sometimes I swear

[ashen plaza]

Yeah, they cant focus too much on Wano, they cant even deal with the New World pirates

[tropic surge]

Took you 1000+ chapters

[near osprey]

WG is moving against the Warlords right now, Luffy is moving against Kaido and Big Mom with Kidd and Law

[broken kelp]

They couldn't even beat alvida man

[near osprey]

CP-0 may attempt to capture Robin but they'll fail.

[proud tree]

Franky >>> Vegapunk btw .... he made Vegapunks dreams come true, without WG backing....

[near osprey]

Jinbei is still okay to fight as is Yamato

[tropic surge]

I'm curious about the aftermath of this, some theorized capturing Boa and giving her back to the CDs which would be a swift tie in

[pearl wagon]

They know who's the strongest and who's the weakest by their doriki ranks as we saw in enies lobby, but they didn't say that kalifa sucks, or anything.

I don't think they have ranks.

[near osprey]

Odds are Lucci runs the squad

Spandam already called him boss at one point

[proud tree]

why? Because he relayed some orders from the 5 elders?

[near osprey]

Because he's the strongest of the group

[broken kelp]

Man do any of you guys have a idea about this yet? I theorised he would be talking about joyboy or fuckin uh Luffy?

[near osprey]

Blackbeard most likely

[ashen plaza]

CP 0 should have ranks or something similar,it wont makes sense otherwise.. There should be a gauge of strength

[ashen plaza]

I'm 97% sure this is Blackbeard..

[pearl wagon]

Yeah, he's treated as the boss, but no one else is really respected less or more

[broken kelp]

I mean he's probably there to talk about joyboy or some shit because there's no fucking way he wouldn't know what's at raftel

[proud tree]

no the guy with the white eye is their boss. he does the talking and he has a big medal

[pearl wagon]

Only 2 people it could be are luffy or bb, very slight chance it's kid

[near osprey]

He doesn't he didn't make it onto the Island and the Roger Pirates kept their lips sealed.

[tropic surge]

Going with out of the box responses and avoiding Luffy, it could be Blackbeard, but that's too repetitive? Or, so hopefully she gets more to do, he's taking about Bonney

[near osprey]

Shanks most likely didn't want them to tell him either

[broken kelp]

Exactly but shanks was apart of the Roger pirates he probably was told later on.

[ashen plaza]

Or Moria, his DF might've respawn already..assuming he died

[near osprey]

As he could've went but opted to take care of Buggy instead

Said he'll go on his own ship

[broken kelp]

Yes but this does not mean he was informed later on. By Rayleigh or something

[tropic surge]

Shanks gives me vibes of not wanting to know person. But also he doesn't seem interested in the one piece altogether

[proud tree]

IMO the guy in the middle with the red medal is the boss

[broken kelp]

I'm sure that fucking uh whitebeard knew too ya know what I mean? Idek

[pearl wagon]

Plot twist: Shanks got morias fruit and he's requesting a world wide funeral for our man.

[tropic surge]

Yeah wb didn't care at all

[pearl wagon]

But in all seriousness, it's very possible for an old character to get morias fruit

[broken kelp]

I mean yeah that's true but I'm sure he was told and that shit so he would be the spark for the next generation or some wack shit

[supple ivy]

i have an imu theory

[ashen plaza]

I still feel like Whitebead was somewhat stupid for not knowing Teach..Considering that he came from Rocks,the pirates crew known for killings...

[near osprey]

But yeah seeing as the Final Saga starts soon, CP-0 capturing Robin would put us farther away from the OP

[tropic surge]

Watch blackbeard use it to get ace and wb zombies

[pearl wagon]

Let's hear it

[near osprey]

He's going to revive Xebec most likely

[pearl wagon]

A zombie with 100 holes in him and 1 with 1 big hole, OP

[broken kelp]

I fucking doubt it

[near osprey]

His ship name is the Saber of Xebec odds are he'll revive him as well.

[pearl wagon]

Very possible

[tropic surge]

Not physically but emotionally it'd rip luffy down

[supple ivy]

Im not too sure if its been said anywhere else but this is what i believe - imu being the creator of df or something like that, imu backwards(umi) mean sea,
which is the weakness of the df's and im backwards (mi) means fruit and it also means SEED.
Doffy states that he knows the weapon of marejois so what if the secret is the source to all devil fruits
imu's name also means, to avoid and to refrain from.if we were to join up the different meanings of his name
you can spell quite a few stuff, idk what it could be as i thought of this theory not long ago.
Stuff such as, imu - avoid mi - fruit = a void fruit - which can relate to a fruit that can remove history
or it can make ocean void fruit. which can possibly sink islands ? idk can any else help me with my hypothesis

[near osprey]

That's why I'm heavily leaning towards a BB, Kaido and Big Mom Alliance after Wano

[broken kelp]

Ayo though can we talk about the fact that shanks fucking teleported into marineford? That's never been explained

[near osprey]

It'd make sense for their characters to head in that direction after losing to Luffy, Law and Kidd

and Blackbeard is already on Whole Cake Island so it'll probably be confirmed real soon.

[pearl wagon]

But he's still the one who killed probably xebecs first mate

[tropic surge]

Not if she's taken to mariejoia

[ashen plaza]

Most likely high lvl dash skill, from rokushiki!!

[broken kelp]

That blew my mind considering he was at wano only a few hours prior to stopping the war and getting there by boat was ridiculous by being at wano he was stopping kaido right?

[pearl wagon]

Shanks very likely knows rokushiki, he used something that looked a lot like soru on whitebeards ship

[near osprey]

Well think back to Zou when the Minks realized Robin's value and asked what she's going to do if powerful people came for her and her response was "I'm not worried my friends will protect me"

[pearl wagon]

F in chat for fake robin

[ashen plaza]

I mean, who knows ,I wont be surprised if Shanks was a genius from CD but he left

[proud tree]

no he did not stop him in wano? he stopped him on his way at sea

[broken kelp]

Yeah I mean but he could have been not so far from wano

[near osprey]

CP-0 can't intimidate her with a Buster Call this time.

[pearl wagon]

Here's a good question, why is rayleigh the dark king?

[broken kelp]

We don't know how the fuck shanks covered such a large distance in such a short time

[ashen plaza]

It should be Pluto,Hades imo.. basically, he is a killer,K guess

[near osprey]

Here's also another prediction

Bonney is going to de-age Sengoku, Garp and Rayleigh in the final battle

They'll be young and in their prime again

[pearl wagon]

I think it's because he has a beast form or something where he'll slaughter everyone

[broken kelp]

That would be insane

[ashen plaza]

But he is obviously human

[near osprey]

What better way to use her character then put old characters back in top form.

It'd be some hype ass shit to see Rayleigh and Garp fighting in their prime again

[broken kelp]

Man I wanna see shanks crew in battle so badly considering hes got a stronger crew than kaidos.

[sour canopy]

hmm its not too bad of a theory though there are gaps to be filled ...

[ashen plaza]

But making them younger is too OP , I dont think Oda would allow that.. I think they would only look young

[near osprey]

Probably see that when Blackbeard and Shanks finally face one another.

[broken kelp]

Shanks gonna win bet.

[tropic surge]

Ohh hadn't thought about this

[pure raven]

you know Bonney liked Whitebeard, how come she never reversed his age?

[near osprey]

Nahh if they face each other Blackbeard will most likely win

[supple ivy]

wdym by gaps ..

[broken kelp]

Nah luffys gonna be with shanks bet

We need to see them meet before Blackbeard fucks everything up

[near osprey]

Odds are Shanks is destined to die at the hands of BB

It makes sense for both of their characters.

[sour canopy]

gaps such as lack on information but knowing oda, you may not be spot on, though he likes to leave clues everywhere

[ashen plaza]

Shanks vs Blackbeard is a perfect match up..Human vs Df user

[tropic surge]

I member when I first thought she was his daughter but then it didn't make much sense

[broken kelp]

I think that shanks will win

[near osprey]

If Luffy is the New Dawn then Blackbeard is the opposite.

[supple ivy]

mhm true that

[near osprey]

I mean his DF is Darkness

[broken kelp]

Shanks needs to atleast hold him off until Luffy arrives if you guys catch my drift

[supple ivy]

and luffy symbolises the sun

[near osprey]

Luffy is indicative of the Sun

[ashen plaza]

Blame Whitebeard pirates for being full retard..Teach is a good liar,but damn..

[supple ivy]

maybe this fight starts the war ?

[tropic surge]

The dawn is a smile, and a black beard covers them

[broken kelp]

It's gotta be that fucking fight man

The red hair pirates joining the strawhat fleet would be the most badass thing going

[ashen plaza]

Remember guys: Dont eat Mera Mera no mi, that fruit seems cursed.. lmao,the owners are unlucky

[supple ivy]

yh maybe shanks crew gets defeated badly or blackbeard gets beaten badly and gets back up, which helps take out shanks crew but this is all being watched by the navy, information leak , luffy quickly comes to try rescue him, navy see this as an oppurtunity to catch 3 emperors and the war breaks out

[broken kelp]

Luffy wrecks havoc as per usual

And akainu fucking dies because he's fuckin gey

[supple ivy]

i hope so

will defo get a back story when he dies about his pov of justice and what it means to him

[broken kelp]

If Luffy is called upon by shanks I swear to god he's gonna be there quicker than a bullet

Luffy is faster than the speed of light after all

[supple ivy]

lmao

[broken kelp]

https://youtu.be/EQRgH39PLQg

[supple ivy]

What evidence points to luffy taking kaido down this arc except for him opening up wano

[broken kelp]

Your telling me that isn't lightspeed reaction time if not faster doe

[supple ivy]

What evidence points to luffy taking kaido down this arc except for him opening up wano, because him killing kaido theoretically gives him the highest bounty out of all the emperors, and how will the story actaully take a turn, maybe kaido gets put on his ass and leaves wano, big mom stays beacuse she thinks she can deal with him and ends up getting defeated by luffy instead

^ this is pure waffle dont take serious (just a random thoery) just to think outside the box

[near osprey]

It's a rough draft and needs some changing but this is what I think we'll be looking at come the War

[supple ivy]

take garp out of world government

[near osprey]

Red Indicates SH Allies, Black Indicates BB and Blue is WG

Garp falls under WG for now

[pearl wagon]

Why bonney being the one making im young is not possible, and also why it is

Why it's possible: She was doing something with the world government before supposedly escaping them, as sakazuki said. But that's about it.

Why it's not possible: Sakazuki can't know about im's existence, plus, if bonney was helping the government before this, she'd have been ordered to turn sengoku and garp into their 30 year old selves

[supple ivy]

if this is about the final war garp will 100% team with SH to help take down the wg

[pearl wagon]

Yeah

[near osprey]

Yeah but I'm going off what I know not what I predict.

[supple ivy]

and we know that garp hates the wg

[near osprey]

Outliers fall under predictions

[broken kelp]

Yeah

[supple ivy]

because there meaning of justice is corrupt

if it was the navy vs SH theen garp will be with the navy, but because he will be forced to help the WG he will join the SH and help

if it makes sense

[near osprey]

Well maybe we can put together a proper list at some point, like I said it's a rough draft I made it in like 5 minutes yesterday I still have to move Aokiji under Blackbeard

[supple ivy]

okay

[near osprey]

I'm going based off where their loyalties are at currently not where they'll end up

I picture most of the WG Supporting Luffy but the ones who have already worked with Luffy fall under SH

Worst Generation btw not the WG

[tropic surge]

Idek what the WG can do to match Luffy if it includes the other supernovas plus everybody he's made friends with

WG as world government

[near osprey]

Well Drake was defeated by Sanji already and Hawkins just lost to Killer so

Well Drake was defeated by Sanji already and Hawkins just lost to Killer so

[supple ivy]

hmm but theyll also have emperors fighting against luffy

cause everyone will be fighting for the one piece - unless luffy comes to the war already with the one piece

[near osprey]

Luffy, Kidd and Law are a cut above the other members aside from Blackbeard

Zoro and Killer already surpassed most of the Worst Generation Captains

[supple ivy]

ehh kid and law debatable i say zorros level

[near osprey]

Definitely not Zoro's Level

[supple ivy]

hold on i need to shit

[tropic surge]

Oh thought you meant just strawhats vs wg

[near osprey]

Well by the end it'll be three factions left really.

You've got the Straw Hat Faction the Blackbeard Faction and the World Government Faction

[tropic surge]

Three way finale seems more interesting

[near osprey]

Each character is going to fall under a certain flag

[visual merlin]

just to throw it out there, sanji beating drake was completely anime only

[near osprey]

Damn really?

[visual merlin]

yea, there's nothing like that in the manga

[near osprey]

Alright guess we toss that out.

But assuming Sanji is on the same level as Zoro I suppose we can safely assume he'd match up with most Worst Gen Captains still

Not trying to start a Sanji vs Zoro debate but I think they fall under the same strength category

[visual merlin]

after the recent powerup sure

[near osprey]

Since the beginning tbh

[visual merlin]

What I mean by that is before this recent powerup, zoro was a level above him

[near osprey]

Zoro has always been maybe a little bit ahead of Sanji but not enough where it's clear

[visual merlin]

sanji caught back up with the powerup

[near osprey]

But now there's the issue of where Yamato falls

Cause she can't overtake Zoro and can't overshadow Sanji either

[proud tree]

Yamato did more damage then Zorro while stalling Kaido alone

[visual merlin]

yea well based on what we've seen she seems to be stronger than them both

[near osprey]

Yeah but First Mate still has to be the 2nd Strongest on the Crew she might be stronger right now but near the end I imagine Zoro will still sit at 2nd

[visual merlin]

I'd wait to see if she even joins or whatever before deciding that she can't be stronger than them

[proud tree]

I think Zorro will also receive some Enma powerup or smthn

[near osprey]

She is joining no doubt about it.

[visual merlin]

definitely is a little bit of doubt

[near osprey]

No reason for her not too

[visual merlin]

point is, it's not certain that she will join and that she just won't be allowed to be stronger than zoro or sanji so Im not gonna go down that road yet

for now she appears to be stronger than them both

[proud tree]

Zorro will get a cursed sword powerup, so he will stand "above" Sanji powerup again.

[pearl wagon]

Ryokogyu seems like a pretty young man, around like 30. His voice sounds young

[pure raven]

my theory is ancient zoan is part of god valley bexause its ancient fruit

[near osprey]

Reason for her joining is a narrative one, they'll have to face Akainu and the Three Admirals at one point and they need a 4th Member who is at least Admiral level.

Yamato fits that bill

[pearl wagon]

Theory: Ryokogyu has the kappa kappa no mi. A kappa is a turtle like creature people use to scare their kids in japan, so that they don't wander of into the lake. I don't really know what's the point of a kappa fruit if he can't swim, so i'll do you one better. Ryokogyu is a fishman, but he was born as a kappa. Everyone called him a monster and hated him, until he was banished to the surface and he learnt fighting skills from someone in the world gov. Only eveidence i have backing the last bit, is that it'd make a cool backstory.

[visual merlin]

I have no reason to assume they'll be the ones who have to face all 4 admirals and that it'll have to be 1v1s

In the first place, it's not certain that Fuji will be on the WG's side in that war

[near osprey]

It's something I'm sure Oda has had planned for decades now

[visual merlin]

why though

[lone dew]

This theory of yours is re inforced by the strong connection how our Kawamatsu only ate poisoned fish n survived for years and how Rokyugo Hasn't eaten for a while

[visual merlin]

its not like that has been built up, and saying that isn't explaining why we should assume that

[lone dew]

This theory of yours is re inforced by the strong connection how our Kawamatsu only ate poisoned fish n survived for years and how Rokyugo Hasn't eaten for a while

[near osprey]

Because it's a Shonen and would make for a good battle

[visual merlin]

sabo could fight akainu, fuji may switch sides, law and or kid may be there, another yonko may be there, etc

[visual merlin]

there are other things that would make for good battles

[amber oar]

But Kawa isn't a literal kappa, he's a fishman

[near osprey]

Who doesn't want to see the SH vs Admirals

[visual merlin]

not literally the only possible option for a good battle, so thats not a good reason or explanation

[near osprey]

Not every Battle Scenario needs a sound proof justification.

[pearl wagon]

Oh yeah, i never thought about that. Even better, kamawatsu and ryokogyu are both brothers and were kicked from fishman island. It's pretty well established oda loves making character back stories include characters we've already seen

[visual merlin]

An assumption like that definitely needs a good reason

[near osprey]

Why wouldn't they fight the Admirals why wouldn't we see Luffy and his top three members match up against Akainu and the Three Admirals

[visual merlin]

because there's no reason that has to be the matchup, and there are other things that happened

you're the person who has to prove why this would happen, Im not arguing for a specific group of matchups that must happen, after all

[lone dew]

Yeah I was thinking along that line too

[pearl wagon]

Let's say yamato does join, who will fight who? I think

Luffy: Akainu because he killed ace and they're the strongest
Zoro: Fujitora because they're swordsman
Sanji: Kizaru because they kick
Yamato: Ryokogyu coz he's the only one left

[storm junco]

i dont think fuji will fight with the other marines tbh

[proud tree]

Usopp will fight Imu and win

[near osprey]

Because this match up would be a best case scenario as a reader and viewer, and from the authors views I'm sure he'd have a blast writing these fights. Why have Akainu and the other Admirals taken out by anyone but the Straw Hats. Who else would you have fight them? Kidd? Blackbeard? Kaido or Big Mom? Shanks?

If anyone in One Piece is fighting them it'll be Luffy, Zoro, Sanji and Yamato because it makes sense from every single angle you look at it.

[visual merlin]

why is it the best case scenario and why does that mean itd happen? You can have them taken out by other characters because it doesn't need to be a perfect 4v4 with no special cases

[near osprey]

Those Four up against one another is literally a dream match up we have been wanting since we've met the Admirals people have predicted Sanji fighting Kizaru since his introduction and now Fujitora vs Zoro since Fuji came in

[visual merlin]

What Im hearing, is this is just the scenario that sounds coolest to you, not one thats actually been built up in any way

[near osprey]

Those Four up against one another is literally a dream match up we have been wanting since we've met the Admirals people have predicted Sanji fighting Kizaru since his introduction and now Fujitora vs Zoro since Fuji came in

[visual merlin]

or that we should really assume happens

[lone dew]

I doubt there will be crazy scale SH vs Marines but yes deffo

Luffy Vs Akainu
Sanji Vs Kizaru
Zoro Vs Fuji
Jimbei Vs Rokyugo but he can't do shit so Yamato and others help

With vice admiral vs it's mostly Franky

[visual merlin]

Luffy Kid law vs Kaido would've been a dream matchup, Marco vs King was a dream matchup, etc

[lone dew]

based

[visual merlin]

it being a cool matchup that you'd really like doesn't mean we should assume it happens, and then base other assumptions off of that

[near osprey]

But Luffy vs Kaido,Kidd and Law vs Big Mom, Zoro vs King and Sanji vs Queen is an even better match up

[lone dew]

Bad 3 vs 1 is no good

[visual merlin]

why?

I think Luffy Kidd law vs Kaido is a better matchup

[near osprey]

Because that match up undermines Luffy

[half bolt]

How

[visual merlin]

luffy vs kaido undermines the other 2

[lone dew]

Also we all know Luffy isn't the type to gang up on somebody he always prefers 1 v 1 so current matchup is bestu

[visual merlin]

kidd for example had a grudge

[near osprey]

If Luffy only takes down Kaido with the help of Law and Kidd no one is left satisfied

[half bolt]

I think thats the intent

[visual merlin]

do you notice how it just comes down to what matchup you like more

[half bolt]

I think thats the intent

[near osprey]

If Luffy only takes down Kaido with the help of Law and Kidd no one is left satisfied

It's a Shonen obviously it's going to come down to what matchup I like more what?

[lone dew]

This

[visual merlin]

?

I am

[lone dew]

^

[visual merlin]

plenty of people would be

[half bolt]

Yeah that would be anticlimactic

[near osprey]

All you're doing is playing devil advocate

[half bolt]

"We jumped a yonkou"

[visual merlin]

assumptions shouldn't come down to what you like more, being a shounen is irrelevant in that

No, Im pointing out how your assumption is just based on a bias, and that makes it a bad assumption to make

[near osprey]

No it's not because Shonens at their core should have the best match ups possible it makes it more exciting that way

[hollow grotto]

not everything is about hype

[visual merlin]

No, shounens at their core have a lot of fights, it doesn't always have the best fight possible, and the best fights possible are subjective in the first place

[lone dew]

Can we continue with some manga theories instead of what matchup is better

[near osprey]

There are fights as fans we need to see.

[lone dew]

Oda decided move on

[visual merlin]

We don't need to see LuffyZoroSanjiYamato vs admirals

you just want to see it

[near osprey]

No because this happens every day lately were on the topic of theories then someone has to argue a minute detail for hours.

[hollow grotto]

I've made two pinned ones if you wanna read

[visual merlin]

I didn't need to see LuffyKiddLaw vs Kaido, I just wanted to see it

[lone dew]

Will read @hollow grotto

[hollow grotto]

aye nice

[visual merlin]

its not a minute detail, it's a huge part in your theory

[half bolt]

I agree to thos

[visual merlin]

because its the entire assumption that means yamato has to join the crew lmao

[half bolt]

I think its just a theory tho and seems likely

[near osprey]

Yeah but you're getting off topic and need 100 reasons why it needs to happen.

[visual merlin]

No, I need a good reason why we should make that assumption

[hollow grotto]

what's the theory?

[visual merlin]

it being a matchup you like more isn't a good reason

[near osprey]

It's a match up the entire fan base wants not just me bro.

[visual merlin]

It's a matchup some people want, there are also people who don't want that

[lone dew]

This is turning into #manga please stop 🛑 also @hollow grotto can u link up I can't find em

[spice berry]

No mods or what?

[half bolt]

Idk its also hindsight because ppl probably thought theyd jump kaidou after he one shot luffy

[bitter kraken]

You can’t speak for the entire fanbase lol

[hollow grotto]

algood
#manga-theories message
#manga-theories message

[spice berry]

I read 60 msgs with zero theories

[visual merlin]

it comes from a theory, its just part of the discussion

[spice berry]

Ahh finally some stuff

[lone dew]

Go fight in #manga

[hollow grotto]

don't think they're absolutely solid but I'm going to believe in them until I get inevitably proven wrong and my pins are stained on this server forever

[visual merlin]

there's no fight going on

[sonic canyon]

Bro I just want the raid suit next chapter, if next chapter focuses on Yamato momo and luffy that's an L we been waiting on some soba action since the raid started

[visual merlin]

I'd hope next chapter just finishes the drake and apoo thing

[near osprey]

I imagine we're going to get some of Kidd/Law vs Big Mom next chapter

[bitter kraken]

The biggest unknown in wano right now for me is BM’s kids, they’re a power in themselves and the ally’s are already taking damage her kids coming in full health would tip the scales so I think once kaido goes down BM is just like fuck it I’m gone. She’ll take her kids and return to her territory when they tell her navy ships are approaching

[hollow grotto]

I wonder if they'll just off-screen all of Apoo vs Drake lol

[near osprey]

As Killer just took down Hawkins and now Kidd can focus on his fight.

[sonic canyon]

Honestly that's what I'm hyped for is where we left off Sanji vs queen and kid and law vs Hawkins

[bitter kraken]

I wanna see apoos arms get chopped off by drake

[half bolt]

Im more interested in drakes motives than his off screen fight

[hollow grotto]

I don't think they're going to appear in Wano during this entire Onigashima battle until it's over, given that Marco said this when he first saw them and kicked them down the waterfall again. As much as it's only the words of one dude, I'd like to believe it holds true

It also means "Wano might look a little different", something along those lines

[sonic canyon]

Yea I think the WG is gonna overwhelm them and leave big mom to fend for herself and potentially getting capped or go to elbaf some how

[near osprey]

Age of Meat

[half bolt]

Im more interested in drakes motives than his off screen fight

[near osprey]

I'm more interested in what Shanks is doing

[bitter kraken]

There needs to be at least an admiral on those ships if they’re gonna take our BM’s kids

[near osprey]

I want him to reunite with Luffy after this Raid or during Wano

[half bolt]

Im thinkin hea gonna reunite hos dad after thos not shanks

[near osprey]

Wouldn't Dragon be focused on Sabo right now

Why would he travel to Wano

[bitter kraken]

I wager dragon regulates the sabo situation to his underdogs

[near osprey]

Unless he needed Luffys help to save him but I imagine Dragon can handle it himself

[spice berry]

He certainly can't invade WG

[near osprey]

I think it'd be more likely for Shanks to make an appearance before Dragon did.

[spice berry]

Why tho

[sonic canyon]

Fr I have a feeling shanks is showing up soon

[near osprey]

Because Luffy will be a Great Pirate

[spice berry]

[near osprey]

He'll officially be a Yonko after Wano

So if there's any time for Luffy to meet Shanks finally it'd be after this.

[bitter kraken]

He won’t officially be a yonko after wano, lol the dude would have to take over kaidos territory similar to how Bb did WB’s

[visual merlin]

He'll probably take over Wano

[near osprey]

He doesn't need Kaido's territory to be a Yonko he was already named one because of his Fleet alone and his stretch of influence.

[visual merlin]

and Barto may be taking territories for him already

then FMI will be his since BM is down

so yea he could be a yonko after this

[sonic canyon]

I mean the WG is approaching wano I don't think he can take it over rn, if WG has intentions to make it part of it

[near osprey]

99% sure he'll be a Yonko

Then all that's left is him being Pirate King

[visual merlin]

WG having intentions of taking it over is only more reason for him to take it over himself

and there's no way they'll just let WG show up and do that when they just got done driving out kaido

[near osprey]

Wano would stand behind Luffy too they can't do anything

WG would go home empty handed

[sonic canyon]

Dam kiado might not even be the end game after all, and we could be facing an admiral

[visual merlin]

nah

it'll probably be cp0 at most

[sonic canyon]

True

[bitter kraken]

Cp0 should be coming in pretty confident they can make this move, with any luck we could be make to see the SSG’s new weapon 😎

[grizzled fog]

I think it’s pretty likely they brought the SSG with them yea. Especially since the marines are part of this operation necessarily

[lone dew]

@hollow grotto I read both the theories completely and I kind of do agree with the first theory that Vegapunk could be a long head. On the second theory the part I most agree with is how there could be imagery of Momo sitting atop Kaido to give that impact to the people of Wano / cp0 etc ... and this would absolutely solidify him as the true heir.

I do have a question though, since I speed read a lot mid work I seem to have missed out on what secret who's who knows that had cp0 in a twist, who is Naika ?

[hollow grotto]

Ah, Nika is most likely related to the history of long ago, we won't probably get an answer on that in Wano

knowing Oda, he'll wait to reveal it over 100 chapters later

[pure raven]

Haven't read the full theory yet, but to answer the rhetorical question. I would say it's to shadow more mystery on the character. Like how Oda usually does with every new character he usually introduces. Like with Imu we don't know why Oda is hiding his face/mouth. Some people speculate that Imu is longhead because of it as well though

[hollow grotto]

ah yeah, these theories I'm not going to defend with my life, criticism is algood and yeah, it's very well possible Oda did intend that

If he wants to build mystery, that's good, but it's a nice coincidence we don't see any of his face and then are introduced to Vegapunk with a silhouette of an elongated head

what looks like, anyway - could be a hat, knowing Oda

[stiff patrol]

I think kid and law are going to join this straw hat grand fleet at the end of wano. Also since bon clay is still alive maybe he breaks out with the rest of the prisoners from level 5.5 and joins the straw hat grand fleet after making his own pirate crew

Like bon clay will come back, we know he will since he is still alive

[severe edge]

there being a longhead tribe as much as I think it's a thing oda can do makes the big mom not having 3 races thing inconsistent as we have already seen the 3 races that she doesn't have that is the onis, giants and the lunarians

[severe edge]

i would not want any supernova to join the SH fleet tbh specially not kidd as he himself aims for the one piece just like luffy and it would really undermine his character if they do that

[hollow grotto]

Big Mom only stated she's missing three races, but what's to say she doesn't have a member of the longhead tribe? They're all in her book after all, and we don't see them all

I didn't see a Skypiean just the same as a longhead member, yet they're probably not one of the 'missing races' either

I'm assuming that would go to super rare races like the Lunarians, probably the Giants because of Big Mom's hatrid towards them and most likely, Oni

though it's only confirmed that she's missing lunarians, so I hope she clears it up at some point

[stiff patrol]

Both law and kid now have a reason to join it, law has been with Luffy since punk hazard and luffy saved law so they will both feel indebted to him

[tawdry bramble]

I’m hoping for something dramatic like Kidd dying.

[stiff patrol]

Yeah nah as we seen from the latest chapter kids gonna survive, Hawkins predicted it

[tawdry bramble]

Sorry I didn’t mean right now he’d die. Just eventually to raise the stakes.

[mint prairie]

It was more of Killer actually changing the course of fate by overcoming the odds, resulting on an entirely new prediction.

"I recognise that Hawkins has made a prediction. But given that it's a stupid-ass prediction, I've elected to ignore it."

[tropic surge]

I hope Kidd doesn't join the fleet, this would kinda undermine his character. I'll rather him returning the favor to Luffy and being at peace with him

Maybe saving him or something

[mint prairie]

Their relationship is already changing for the better. I can see them keeping a friendly rivalry instead of having Kid being as aggressive as he has been in the past.
He already reacted to Luffy's claim of beating Kaido with "you better do."
So I expect the three of them to keep their synergy from the battle at sea.

Getting on each other's way because they don't want the others to do the same.

[junior cape]

They (Kid, Law, Luffy) dont get along personality-wise, but they recognize each other's usefulness, so they try to get along

But that's about as far as they go. Once the raid is over, Kid and crew are likely to go their own way

[mint prairie]

I think Law has already a soft spot for Luffy. He hates the way he goes around his way however he wants, but in the end he trusts him and hasn't ever gone beyond "I can't believe you can be this stupid."

[junior cape]

yeah that's a good way to put it. Kid on the other hand is a bit more confrontational, but recognizes strength for what it is.

AS such, when he saw that Luffy stood a real chance of winning, he changed roles from full-on assault to support and CC, trying to deal with Big Mom instead.

However, I don't really see Kid joining Luffy on his quest full-time.

[tropic surge]

I do hope they keep the three way synergy, cuz it's a really fun dybake, just don't want Luffy overshadow them

Similar to WB / Rogers dynamic, for example

[mint prairie]

Definitely not, I just believe their relationship is improving to that of a healthy rivalry.

[proud tree]

Rereading the Big Mom flashback: The Sun God 🌞 (Nika?) was mentioned in chapter 867

The other mention of the sun god was in Skypia Calgara flashback ... are there more?

[fathom matrix]

some peeps suggest that the void century is reoccuring or reinacting in the current story, or there are events similar to it

So maybe we are experiencing the void century, but like a play, it's with different actors

kinda of like how a lot of movies of a specific story are different from one another, new actors, uses of colour and tones of the scenes, but they still follow the same key elements

[junior cape]

Like all the remakes of romeo and juliet over the years

[fathom matrix]

PLUS, wano is being structed like a play

[tropic surge]

That would fit what Rayleigh told the strawhats

[fathom matrix]

or a lot of the snow white films

[tropic surge]

That maybe theyd get a different meaning out of the same experience

[fathom matrix]

arriving at a different conclusion? Like they might have the same answer but they have a different reaction or way of seeing it?

[tropic surge]

But in a larger scope

I actually dig that theory, kinda avoids it being a lore dump when the time comes, and we experience it through parallels with Luffys journey

[fathom matrix]

PLUS, Luffy made a promise to Shirohoshi, like how Joyboy made one for Posiden

and they're both considered direct and inderict reincarnations

[hollow grotto]

So Wano acts as a mini-Void Century in that theory, or the entire story of OP?

[proud tree]

imo Dressrosa is a mini void century already

[fathom matrix]

The wano acts could represent the semi final acts of void century, but when it ends, it's the clam before the storm

[hollow grotto]

I'd like to think Dressrosa and Wano both represent different parts of the Void Century

[fathom matrix]

I think every arc does

[hollow grotto]

every arc?

[fathom matrix]

I think every arc could represent an act or reinactment of the void century

[hollow grotto]

That's definitely not beyond Oda to do

but I don't know if he would've planned that far ahead - guess it wouldn't be too hard as long as you'd had the base story for a long while, and Oda certainly had

[fathom matrix]

WELL......TBF, he might be annoying, but his arc notified us of the davy back fight and the pirates paradise

[hollow grotto]

yeah, that's the main takeaway from that arc lol

[fathom matrix]

it just goes to show that every arc in OP is important

[hollow grotto]

That's usually how a story works, but I get what you mean

[junior cape]

People often say long-ring-long-land was a pointless arc, and it did tell us about that, yes, but it also showed us a glimpse of how catastrophically powerful fighters in the new world would have to be in order to survive, and how Luffy just wasn't there yet. It was a reality check. A sneak peek of what was yet to come.

I'm also pretty sure that's also when Oda decided that the crew needed a redesign and powerup if they were going to proceed into the new world. If fighters like Aokiji were to be the norm, then the crew would be wiped out in a heartbeat.

[frosty roost]

very true

[zinc iris]

So the last 2 chapters of the arc, the foxy thing didn't have any repercussions for a very long time

[left field]

Unless the Davy back fight hinted at another one later in the series

Cause it seems like meeting Aokiji was the only plot relevant part of that arc and that had nothing to do with the Davy back fight

[zinc iris]

It became relevant because it was the first mention of Hachinosu

[left field]

Oh that’s the island BB took over right?

[zinc iris]

Yeah, also where the Rocks Pirates were formed

[left field]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/qe26i3/sanjis_best_friend_1029_spoilers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Ik there’s minor arcs like Whiskey Peak and Little Garden but those both did more than Long Ring Long. WP introduced baroque works and Vivi, and LG showed us giants and gave Usopp role models

What I’m trying to say is not that Long Ring Long isn’t significant, I’m saying that it is significant in some way and we have no idea why it was needed

[proud tree]

Theory: Chopper will stay in his geezer form longer then expected, because Cesar lied to him about the ingredients to his new upgraded Rumble Balls, we dont know what the serious side effects Cesar mentioned are

[tawdry bramble]

Shanks vs Luffy Davy Back fight is the best prevailing theory

Fits with shanks gambling. Fits with a non death match between them. Fits setting up shanks getting killed by BB

[next swan]

It’s not about whether Oda is thinking ahead

[tawdry bramble]

It’s about if Oda can adapt what he’s written

[next swan]

He writes what he wants to write, basically whatever he likes, and he makes it significant later

[mint prairie]

I do believe Long Ring Long Land introduces two important yet unexploited ideas:

1. A way for pirate crews to face each other without fighting to the death.
2. The mythos of piracy and Davy Jones, which are unrelated (so far) to the world that Oda has built but shed light onto the idea of there being a "first pirate" who preceded all who sailed after him, in a story kickstarted by the death of the only ever recorded Pirate King.

[mint prairie]

Luffy v. Shanks Davy Back Fight is something I can see happening that could also circumvent the need to provide a reason for Luffy to seriously fight Shanks, as mentors turned evil, especially in Luffy's case, would be something hard to justify for Oda's writing.

[left field]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/qe26i3/sanjis_best_friend_1029_spoilers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

I’m not gonna lie I think it would be AWESOME if Sanji snaps out of his situation not by seeing a woman but because of Zoro

[waxen dust]

🐌

[left field]

🐌

[mint prairie]

🐌 Customer service, my name is Steph, what can I help you with?

[amber oar]

I'm fully convinced Rocks assembled his all star crew via Davy Back Fights

[solid badger]

I mean she still thick, even more if u haven’t noticed

[zinc iris]

It would be fitting considering how DBF was designed as a way to poach crewmembers

[sturdy hound]

@tawdry flax this channel is not the place to discuss random stuff like that, please read the channel description and follow the rules

[proud tree]

For what purpose did Oda introduce the 3 eyed race (only living member: Pudding, child of LinLin) Will it become relevant in the race for the One Piece or not? (Pudding Chapter 651: First sight, fish men island arc ...

[sturdy hound]

bm intends on using pudding to read the poneglyphs because that's allegedly an ability the three eye tribes posses, however, not even big mom herself is sure about it and is not going to wait for pudding to awaken that ability if ever, so she's going after robin

[zinc iris]

but then it's an unused chekov gun

[sturdy hound]

well, i was just stating what bm said in the story. also, not really, another race is a good contribution to the world of op, even if they cant read the poneglyphs it's just going to be a rumor surrounding them, which again, goes back to building the world. i dont mind it

we will see what comes out of it soon

You can also delve into how it ties into BM’s pure selfish desires and manipulation of pudding. She had her just for a chance to read the poneglyphs and then used her eye on sanji, the man that starts to break that reality forced on pudding when he enters her life. And so on and so on

[gentle lily]

How long has it been known that Gear Fourth is similar to the Upper Yard/Shandorra Altar?

[snow grove]

How kidd is able to be on his legs after taking so many blows from bm

[amber oar]

Guts

[tawdry flax]

Gecko moria will revive wb to get revenge on bb for killing absalem

[pure raven]

I think big mom will be the next Straw hat, Blackbeard is secretly Xebec, Imu is Mihawk, and that Crocodile is Luffy mom

[pearl wagon]

What?

[tawdry flax]

Kizaru has future sight
He seems slow but in fact he uses future sight to know how fast he needs to go

[pearl wagon]

Ayy that rhymes. Kizaru is likely the fastest man in the world. It's not confirmed if he can think at the speed of light, but i doubt he has future sight, we haven't even seen him using conqerors haki

[tawdry flax]

I dont see anything that rhymes

[empty pecan]

slow and go

How far can luffy's butthole stretch in gear 4

[pearl wagon]

Nah nah nah it goes
Kizaru has future sight, yeah he seems slow
But in fact he uses future sight to know how fast to go
Hit song 2021

[slender flint]

🧢

[mint prairie]

[random zealot]

For Robin to get Kidnapped and Sanjis Relationship with pudding Pays off she awakens her ability and helps luffy for a while

[pearl wagon]

I was surfing the reddit and came across this:https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/qe26i3/sanjis_best_friend_1029_spoilers/

Something like this could definitely happen, then once that fight is done and king and queen are passing out, sanji goes to queen and says "HEY YOU! HOW DO I NOT LOSE MY EMOTIONS?" Then queen tells him shit, and sanji and zoro go help luffy and friends

[astral parrot]

Shiki being the guy would be cool, but I think Oda let them make the Shiki movie cuz he didn’t really have anything for him

Shiki being the guy would be cool, but I think Oda let them make the Shiki movie cuz he didn’t really have anything for him

[left field]

I’m gonna have to disagree

A pirate with a big name that was part of the most powerful pirate crew back then is far from a pushover

A pirate with a big name that was part of the most powerful pirate crew back then is far from a pushover

And there’s zero information pointing to whether he’s dead or alive, all we know is that he has battled Roger and lost (mainly cause of weather), and after finding out about Roger’s execution he stormed Marineford only to be stopped by Garp and Sengoku, resulting in his Impel Down arrest

If Shiki was active in the pirate world he’d almost instantly get a huge bounty but the Marines don’t seem to talk about him at all, which means he’s hiding and planning something. No way in hell a man like that sits in a chair with a drink in his hand during a great pirate era like this

[steady minnow]

Will eating someone let u obtain their devil fruit?

[astral parrot]

But then what’s he actually doing? I thought Oda had no real plans for him and that’s why he got the movie?

[pearl wagon]

Yeah, it does

[lavish pollen]

Dragon is lunarian or luffys mom was lunarian that’s how luffy uses red hawk or something (coming back to this later to check)

[warm saffron]

If you read all 4 of them, you’ll get co ordinates to raftel/laugh tale

[tropic surge]

Yeah I was in the misconception that the position of the poneglyph themselves were the points in the map

[warm saffron]

Ok

[real swan]

So multiple people have pointed out how Sanji's issue parallels the okama training a bit, and I'm thinking it might go a bit farther than that. We know this has to resolve at some point; I doubt Sanji will lose his emotions but he'll have to accept Judge's science in his body one way or another. With the okama land, he had to utilize one of the people he hates most as well.

It's also quite weird that we have seen few results from his 2 year training. If I remember correctly, it's really been a couple of moves, hell memories, and that spectre move. But now his ability to fly has become redundant with the raid suit and his blue walk has almost never been used aside from the fishman island arc.

So my idea is this, that Oda plans to use this current issue to not only have Sanji accept his family's powers, but also realize that his acceptance can be directed towards the okama way as well. And this means more that he will actually use more techniques from Ivankov or the okamas. There's not much actual evidence to this, but he has the potential to combine the ultimate defense of his blood with the offense of the okama way, as well as his hateful memories of both, to land some epic attacks, most notably a fully powered Hell Memories that even King might be in awe from.

[wet perch]

I’m all for Sanji fucking up Queen with a Hell Wink

[junior cape]

Go for the hell-wink accelerated drop kick, knock out the dinosaur

Rod from god style

Basically, Sanji goes up into sky, uses raid suit/okama techniques to amp up his speed, light himself on fire, and use new exoskeleton hardness to bash Queen into submission

[warm saffron]

I bet after all of these upgrades for the mugiwara crew, it still won’t be enough for yonko’s like shanks and Blackbeard, and the crew will have to go higher just to even be on par with them

[junior cape]

Maybe, but I doubt it. Big Mom and Kaido are considered the strongest in the world, based on their bounties. However, that may be due to inflation or just age. For Shanks to be stronger/better than them, with a lower bounty, he'd have to be outrageously powerful, even more so than Kaido, despite everything else

Black beard on the other hand is breaking all the rules with 2 devil fruits. Hes definitely gonna have a massive bounty spike before luffy fights him

[pure raven]

I think Dragon has the highest bounty

[junior cape]

Perhaps. According to Brannew, no PIRATE has ever had a bounty above 5Bn except Whitebeard and Roger. However, Dragon is the world's most wanted CRIMINAL. It would make sense for his bounty to be nuts, even if he isnt personally that strong.

Dude literally orchestrates the demise of nations for fun. Hes not to be taken lightly

[night carbon]

Have we seen a revolutionary with a bounty yet?

[junior cape]

No I don't think so

Wait no, we've seen them on the leaders. "There are bounties on some of the strongest members of the Revolutionary Army too. This includes 293 million Berries bounty of Morley, 457 million Berries bounty of Belo Betty, 316 million Berries bounty of Lindbergh and 400 million berries bounty of Karasu." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ibtimes.com/one-piece-vivre-card-new-leaks-reveal-bounties-marco-izou-revolutionary-army-3241609%3Famp=1

I guess Oda is saving Sabo and dragon for later

[real swan]

The new attack ideas for Sanji just makes me imagine a scenario where Franky and Usopp redesign the raid suit as an okama outfit.

[real swan]

Really curious what dragon could be if he's even considered one of the greatest threats.

[junior cape]

Remember, hes the worlds worst criminal

He seeks to burn the world order to the ground

[warm saffron]

But that was before Blackbeard and shanks were introduced into the yonko’s, they are the newest yonko’s and, since they haven’t been seen in action since marineford, means they are the strongest yonko’s
Big mom and kaido are only strong for their skin, whilst the Baki that shanks has and mera mera no mi Blackbeard would more than cripple them

[empty nebula]

Sanji will find out the things his mom did were only to protect his emotions not to stop the powers

Thats the best possible way out without dragging sanjis issues over another arc

[real swan]

We could also witness Oda go full madman, have Sanji lose his emotions and part of elbaf is figuring out how to get them back lol

[mint prairie]

International Business Times
Huh?

[pure raven]

Shanks isn't honestly that far if you compare their bounties individually

Also BM and kaido have been Yonkous longer than shanks

[ashen plaza]

Shanks would become stronger eventually if he is allowed to live longer..Why?Talent, Shanks' hardwork+ talent makes him stronger even if he isnt that old ..Bigmom and Kaido should be older + their physiques are monstrous unlike are one armed Shanks!.That being if Luffy being an emperor later,he should be the youngest XD..Blackbeard is actually near Shanks' age

[warm saffron]

If anything, shanks’s conqueror Baki is greater than any other yonko, mainly because he can’t control it

[snow herald]

My theory and wish:
I want luffy to achieve such power/skill that he can do a mugen gattling gun.
Somewhat to do with his awakening. Like he can turn objects into rubber like katakuri/doflamingo.
And just let the gattling gun go on for infinity and beyond!

Inspired from toriko, my favourite manga

[warm saffron]

I actually wonder what the gum gum abilities would do if it were awakened

[lone dew]

Any theories on Sun God Naika ?

[warm saffron]

I always thought originally that it was the fish man that escaped the clutches of the celestial dragons, climbed the red line, freed the slaves and burned marijoa’s

That’s my theory on him

[lone dew]

Aha okay

[static anvil]

this is just a fan art but is very possible to be some thing like this in future chapters

[warm saffron]

And have another enies lobby?

[lone dew]

I would be both annoyed and angry if it happened

[dense peak]

Agreed

[warm saffron]

Truth be told i highly doubt oda would do another enies lobby
Marineford, maybe, but it would be with sabo

[sturdy hawk]

No

[formal pagoda]

D = Dawn ?

[tawdry flax]

And maybe brook will develop a new ability to possess someone

[left field]

No 2nd Enies Lobby

That’s a bad move from both a storywriting perspective and from an entertainment perspective

[dense peak]

I think wano will become luffy's territory at the end of the arc

[tawdry bramble]

I can see her getting captured but not actually taken

[left field]

That’s pretty reasonable

[warm saffron]

I wonder if zoro will beat king by opening his left eye

[left field]

Personally I don’t even think Robin will be captured but it is possible for her to get captured but not taken

[left field]

I think Zoro is gonna be the one that saves Sanji from overcoming his personal crisis

[tawdry flax]

I think zoro left eye will always remain closed so it's a permanent mystery

Or maybe hes saving it as a last resort but he dies if he uses it

Or he just walked into a branch and now lost his eye

[warm saffron]

Maybe zoro opening his left would be like kenpachi tearing off his eye patch

[left field]

When are we gonna see an eyepatch in one piece

Or a parrot on the shoulder

[rustic granite]

Sabo's bounty is already revealed

[halcyon tusk]

Wahahaha! didn’t lucci have a pigeon on his shoulder? close enough

[left field]

I guess? Lucci isn’t a pirate tho

[left field]

What is it? Don’t remember

[halcyon tusk]

was a privateer for a lil while though close enough

[rustic granite]

602 million

[halcyon tusk]

much too low