manga-theories

[worldly anvil]

if both BM and Kaido are beaten, then it will go either 2 ways, new yonkos or yonko system removed

[supple magnet]

Lol

[cedar dust]

i dont think our current ppl are strong enough to replace

[supple magnet]

I can see luffy filling a spot but not law or kid or anyone else tbh

[cedar dust]

crew too small as well

[marsh warren]

It's also about territory

[opal sparrow]

Straw hat fleet is big af

[marsh warren]

Luffy has the fleet, Kidd and Law don't

[cedar dust]

yea

[supple magnet]

It’s about territory and influence and the straw hats might have both by the end of this arc they also got the grand fleet

[opal sparrow]

But I can’t see luffy becoming an emperor yet . It will just make me think the story gonna come to an end soon

[supple magnet]

It will tho 😭

[opal sparrow]

How many arcs after wano till the end. I’d say 3 major arcs and 2 mini arcs

Elbaf , lodestar and the biggest fucking war

[supple magnet]

That sounds about right. Elbaph and raftel and final war will be major arcs

[marsh warren]

ye agreed, Elbaf, Lodestar/Raftel and the big war

[supple magnet]

Lodestar might happen too

Where do you think we will fight Blackbeard?

[opal sparrow]

One piece manga will end 2027 for the 30th year anniversary

[worldly anvil]

Doubt

[marsh warren]

Lodestar probably @supple magnet

Unless it happens on Raftel itself

At any rate, Blackbeard should be Luffy's last obstacle before he becomes Pirate King

[opal sparrow]

Luffy will find the raftel and BB being that Patient cunning mf will follow the straw hats without dem knowing or manage to still a vivre card of luffy

[marsh warren]

I could see that

[opal sparrow]

Steal ****

Luffy “ sugeeeeeeee one pie….”

“ZHAHAHAHAHAH”

[marsh warren]

Im not sure im a fan of that though

[opal sparrow]

Yea I changed my mind

[worldly anvil]

too predictable aren't it?

[marsh warren]

I think I'd prefer it if there's no fighting at Raftel

[opal sparrow]

I want the starw hats to have a better moment than the roger pirates

[marsh warren]

Exactly

[feral garnet]

didn't Yamato confirm Luffy being Joyboy?

[keen portal]

Never

She just alluded that it's fate that the ally Momo brought to Wano was a member of the D clan. Like Ace was

Nothing about Joyboy itself. Or at least, she's never mentioned Joyboy by name yet, iirc.

[ember trench]

She said Luffy was the one Oden was waiting for

So yeah, she basically did

[opal sparrow]

I don’t want luffy to be joy boy. Yea he reminds you of roger or joy boy but I want him to be his own person

It’ll contradict the freedom of that luffy wants. Being a recantation or will of someone

[keen portal]

You're kinda jumping the gun on it with your own expectations of it being a reincarnation or it being all destiny and preordained

[ember trench]

It doesn’t really contradict anything anyway

[mighty sinew]

Why do you think Wano is special? Kaido just said that

My guess is that inside Wano there is an Ancestral Weapon or something about the Void Century

I mean... They forged the phoneglyphs

[marsh warren]

Kaido definitely knows something about Wano's connection to the Void century

[wide swift]

Yamato said that Luffy was the one Kozuki Oden was waiting for

[feral garnet]

maybe uranus is in wano?

[wide swift]

hmm. could be the case

[feral garnet]

what would uranus be anyway

[wide swift]

I’m thinking momo is uranus tbh

[feral garnet]

I like the theory of Imu's straw hat being uranus

[wide swift]

Since y’know, momo can control zunisha

[feral garnet]

but that is in marie geois though

[wide swift]

My theory of The strawhat is that it was originally Joyboy’s strawhat. And he was probably s giant. That’s why the straw hat is so huge

[feral garnet]

that's also possible

[raven trellis]

What if luffy actually was bad and black beard eated pika pika and then luffy died but actually lived because he villain and black beard find one piece and then goku come to help white beard to kill ruffy(luffy) because he is bad and then black beard actually was good guy and don't like to hurt ppl and he said white beard u better becum pirate king but luffy killef white beard because luffy bad white beard good and then nami san left luffy and colected dragan bolls and asked shreron to make ruffy(luffy) good and luffy became good everyone likes him now and black beard said that luffy(ruffy) will better become pirate king but of luffy good now who bad so kizaru came oh and by the way(bt w) nami joined straw hats back when luffy become good and kizaru came and he killed luffy brother ace and eated him and got flame power fruit power and burned marines to fu*k because he was actually pirate and then garp too died luffy cried much then kizaru burnedd all blaxk beard pirates and then black beard joined luffy because (i mean ((ruffy))) because he has no one and he cry big
So luffy and black beard came and kizaru killed luffy and blackberd got mad and rage and somehow killed kizaru with light fruit abilities because logia and fast and then kizaru dead but luffy actually lived he no dead and then mr.satan came he say he strongest then black beard mad and dead because satan blue ssj and strong then luffy said haha blaxk beard noob and killed saTan to prove thhat he stronger but nami was here and she killd everyone and his big tits eated earth and sanji maked very big blood and fly and then white beard revive because drogon ball and became pirate king

[alpine ridge]

Yes

[raven trellis]

Yes

[oak mural]

nani ?

[rugged harbor]

a theory only a league player can create right there

[wide swift]

Damn dude. I think you might have just guessed the ending of One Piece.

[raven trellis]

@rugged harborThis is a browser named League of Legends

[rugged harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/stoned-cat-wow-dazed-confused-gif-14745405

[drowsy marsh]

So the first few pages alludes that Hiyori isn't at the fire capital. So the mystery figure must be Hiyori. I wonder what role she will play.

Maybe she will heal Zolo

[pure raven]

she will slay orochi i believe

[neat inlet]

Since the sky are clear over wano, I believe the minks will make a comeback, it's still night time

[hasty python]

bepo getting an oolong form would be dope

[timid oxide]

e

[shell nest]

there's this theory going around that queen and judge worked together sometime in the past

[timid oxide]

Yeah I’ve been hearing that

[keen portal]

#manga message

[dull pumice]

Seems kinda obvious

[keen portal]

vegapunk queen ties are a given (as of now for me, at least). The interesting part then is, whether queen came into contact with Kaido for the first time during that time. When Kaido was captured and vegapunk attempted to recreate his fruit.

Was Queen present at that time? Was he under vegapunk? Did he help Kaido escape and subsequently join Kaido?

[onyx marten]

My favorite expansion of this theory is that King was a prison guard when Kaido was captured

[formal quest]

This all fits so good

[cerulean thistle]

Hi guys, is there any theories regarding Yamato's DF?

[tired osprey]

#manga-theories message

[short lodge]

Guys, you need to stop making so much fucking sense...

I bet Goda is around here fishing for ideas 🤭

[open tendon]

?

[pure raven]

lol how did i miss this

anyone recognizes that sword?

[amber oar]

Isn't that the giant sword we saw at the entrance?

[pure raven]

shouldn't it be on onigashima

oh right

[pure raven]

Kaido made skull dome fly

The sword is still at onigashima

[digital epoch]

It looks like he made the skull dome and a good deal of area around it fly too...

like, not the whole island or anything, but pretty close to that.

[pure raven]

Hmmm

[undone hollow]

bepo in oolong form could have helped the 5 at the roof , would have been dope to see 3 pirates and their right hand man, feel bad for my boi Law

[tidal tangle]

http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=38205http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=38205

[sage pond]

Contains Minor Chapter 1015-1016 spoilers

|| I have a theory that, kaido definitely knows more about the opening of wano, that's why he stayed, what he knows about it is that Joyboy is the one who will be the one to free the land of wano, that's why he stayed, since he wants to die in a 'heroic' way he stayed in wano to rival Joyboy, which is obviously luffy, that is why he said in 1016, that he has no where else to go and that wano is special, probably because he wants to die fighting Joyboy in wano who will surpass him in power, or he knows that Joyboy is one of the very few people who can defeat/kill him.

Another major indicator of this theory, is that when kaido said "You couldn't be Joyboy...EITHER it seems"in Ch1014, so looks like kaido fought multiple people who he assumed to be "Joyboy", like oden most probably for example, so he's been waiting in wano to meet the actual joyboy ||

[weak arrow]

For the record you don’t need to spoiler tag info.

As for the theory, I think it’s likely although it’s odd why Kaido would leave Wano to try to fight Whitebeard.

[sage pond]

true, but maybe he had a special intention behind that

i dont think it's something expected like "He just wanted to fight the strongest man" or something

[weak arrow]

I suppose it could be because he wanted info about joyboy, and maybe Shanks gave him some instead so he’d leave

[sage pond]

i have a strong feeling the next chapter is gonna be more informative with less fighting (if it was still on kaido vs yamato) like maybe kaido will start talking about his past and true intentions to stay in wano, this is a likely situation to begin the kaido flashback we've been expecting

[lament cave]

probably just realized he could go die heroically at marineford instead of dying heroically at wano later, he wasnt missing out by going and i wouldnt be surprised if kaido was planning on going around killing everyone to die in an insane way or recruiting peopl

i like the theory that his main driving factor is actually just dying in a cool way

[pseudo citrus]

this all makes perfect sense given the most recent events, but how would you explain Kaido teaming up with Big Mom to try and find One Piece? we have this panel from 1001, where he's talking taking their treasure/manpower/poneglyphs and trying to become king of the pirates

[lament cave]

oh lol nvm, maybe he planned to just wait for joyboy in order to kill joyboy, possibly knows something about the void century and what will come if joyboy succeeds (not something inherently bad, but something kaido wouldnt want). He knew luffy couldve been joyboy and teamed up then decided luffy wasnt

[wicked wasp]

I think Kaido knows that the kozuki clan made the ponoglyphs so he’s staying there to find out more about them

[sage pond]

but the thing is find out from who? unless he already found out from the wano poneglyph somehow tho we're not aware of anyone who is capable to read poneglyphs except for robin

[weak arrow]

I don’t think that’s it. Otherwise he wouldn’t be trying to murder momo and would at least try to get answers out of him

[wicked wasp]

Just a thought

If kaido were really caring about finding the one piece then wano would be an important places for clues

[pure raven]

@echo moth https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ncbszg/one_peace_my_mega_theory_covering_just_about/

[echo moth]

ok its gonna take some time to read

[wicked wasp]

So far I’m with it ngl

I think the theory has some ground

To it

Ok so this mans is saying monkey d dragon has a type of dragon df I think, which is crazy but considering we already know of a dragon df could there be another version of the dragon df

[steep escarp]

There could be, considering there are many versions of dragons around the globe, such as wyvern, drake, wyrm, common dragon (like the one at punk hazard), and then theres eastern dragon (kaidou and momo)

[mild kite]

Big Mom + Kaido's bounty is 8,999,100,000. Some collection of bounties post-wano might equal 9 billion. Who do you guys think it will be?

Currently trying to make the post-wano strawhat bounties equal exactly 9 billion and my brain fcken hurts

[ember trench]

Thoughts on Kaido: Kaido came to Wano in the first place so he could meet Joyboy. He heard about what Joyboy is supposed to do and the significance of Wano from Xebec before he died. Joyboy’s destiny is to “destroy the world” (meaning the world the Celestial Dragons created when they destroyed the ancient kingdom). Kaido wanted to establish himself as a powerful threat that the next Joyboy would need to surpass in order to die a meaningful death preparing them for their real purpose in defeating the World Government. That’s the reason he became an emperor, took over Wano, and began building his army in the first place. Eventually he just got bored of waiting and decided he would destroy the world himself - until the Worst Generation showed up tonight during the Fire Festival. He was excited on the roof because he thought one of them might be able to finally kill him and become Joyboy.

[pure raven]

Models also exist tho

[wicked wasp]

That what I was getting at

[teal bay]

kaido is a fish fruit model dragon

[wicked wasp]

If you guys are gonna try to correct me for this just read it yourself

I know there can be different models for df

[pure raven]

oh

I forgot yikes

[wicked wasp]

In this dudes theory he lists kaido as a dragon df so I was going with that in mind

[teal bay]

maybe dragon has an actual dragon devil fruit i mean considering kado tattoo resemble to that of a koi, dragon also has tattoos on his face which we know weren't there 20 yrs ago at roger's execution.
it can also be possible that roger had that fruit considering he can also chage the weather and bring storms like he got when he was gonna fight with shiki and when he got executed it somehow came to dragon considering dragon can also change weather and brig forth storms

[wicked wasp]

Read the thing from Reddit up there he talks about that

[pure raven]

but different types of dragon models? hmmm...

[wicked wasp]

He’s saying monkey d dragon has a dragon df that controls wind

[grizzled fog]

Luffy 3bil
Kid 2.2bil
Law 1.9bil
Killer 799,100,000
Zoro 1.1bil
Rooftop 5

[ember trench]

Dragon is more than likely a wind Paramecia/Logia

[steep escarp]

I'd prefer dragon having the weather fruit bcs another dragon zoan model is just lazy, i mean yamato's df is probably a dragon too

[grizzled fog]

Something like that

[visual merlin]

Vemqi

what is that Killer bounty

[teal bay]

nah its old story where they tell about how that koi koi fruit got dragon model. i will find it and send it back her tmrw

[wicked wasp]

Anyway back to reading I have at least 20 more minutes in this thing

[grizzled fog]

Man I had to make one a little weird to reach 8,990,100,000

[pure raven]

I read that theory a while ago so I forgot what it said lol

[ember trench]

I don’t think Killer breaks a billion either

[mild kite]

Im conflicted between it being between the 5 rooftop supernovas or the strawhats

[visual merlin]

huh

[grizzled fog]

One of the bounties would have to be pretty funky for that to happen

[visual merlin]

you can give some to Yamato

[ember trench]

Zoro will only break a bil because he’ll fight King after this

[grizzled fog]

Rooftop 5 makes more sense

[visual merlin]

he'll get 1.1 bil from beating the guy with 1 bil

[grizzled fog]

He can break a bil on the feat of scarring kaido alone

[ember trench]

Scarring Kaido + defeating King

[steep escarp]

I wonder if chopper's could go beyond 1000

[agile stream]

Fr and sanji gonna be around 820 mil

[wicked wasp]

Ok guys so in this theory he saying every race except the fish man come from one of the moons

[teal bay]

nah he got something related to cat family like lion or tiger like this

[ember trench]

Sanji will probably break a billion too

[wicked wasp]

It has literally everything in it wtf

[agile stream]

Luffy gonna have to be with kaido amount or slightly less

[amber field]

Guys guys I have a theory

[ember trench]

Luffy’s number two and number three defeating Kaido’s number two and number three... you love to see it

[amber field]

Luffy will be the pirate king

[pure hatch]

ngl.... you might be onto sumthin

[wicked wasp]

Luffy will throw the biggest party ever

[modest skiff]

yeah i've been thinking this as well. I think the legend of joyboy is just attractive to him so he inserted himself into the situation in hopes he'd meet him

(and eventually be killed by joyboy)

[steep escarp]

Up until now, iirc, luffy never killed off his enemies, do you think he would finally do it with kaidou?

[pure raven]

I think luffy will defeat kaido and yamato will kill him off

[grizzled fog]

I don’t think luffy will kill kaido, but it’s possible. He wouldn’t be against it though

[pure raven]

I've seen this idea floating around and I can get behind it

[sacred hawk]

So wait, can nami fly now? Since Zeus can go into cloud form?

[wicked wasp]

Sure

I think luffys third fight with kaido will be like his third fight with crocodile

I have no basis behind this just I think it will

[ember trench]

She can’t ride on Zeus

Only Big Mom can

[mild kite]

You sure ?

[sage pond]

why is that

[ember trench]

Already established only she can ride her homies

[wicked wasp]

I’m not gonna believe that but ok

[cyan berry]

Zeus said it himself

Only Big Mom can ride homies

Whether or not the case has changed with this current Zeus is still not known

[ornate peak]

I can ride my homies if I want

[lunar wren]

basically nami has zeus power up unless she fighting big mom

[sudden condor]

what do you think, will kaido die or go to impel down?

[lunar wren]

hmm

[versed hamlet]

Kaido is not going to impel down lol

[pure raven]

more likely to die

[lunar wren]

he would be executed if he was caught

[sudden condor]

then why was cp0 there?

[pure raven]

to do a deal with orochi

[lunar wren]

my bets are still on that the marine will clean up, or gonna do the black beard devil fruit thing with kaido's high tiers

[pure raven]

for seastone since doffy, their middleman, was defeated

[lunar wren]

wouldnt be suprised if cp0 knows about that method and uses it to make their own high tier soldiers

[sudden condor]

there cant be only one reason

every arc got a marine to take the loser to jail

[lunar wren]

kaido did say wano is special. marine is also trhere

[cyan berry]

marines aren't CP0

[lunar wren]

they arent related?

[cyan berry]

the marines are currently preoccupied with all the warlords

not really

[pure raven]

nevermind they were looking for weapons

[cyan berry]

marines are part of the WG

but CP0 just do their own thing most of the time

[sudden condor]

cp0 works for gorosei

[pure raven]

yeah cp0 are just there for their own reasons

[lunar wren]

thought they worked for the higher higher ups

[pure raven]

ciper pol works for the wg

[sudden condor]

yeah

[lunar wren]

Kaido said wano special. he is protecting something from cp0 possibly. cp0 is there for their devil fruit possibly if they die.

[sudden condor]

they must have a thing to do with kaido

[pure raven]

well not the highest up but the celestial dragons

[sudden condor]

kaido should die tho

would be sad if oda said he wanted to die then go to jail

[lunar wren]

I feel onigashima has to end with it crashing

[shadow jewel]

Kaido's death would be the most unsatisfying thing I'd ever see in OP

[sudden condor]

true

[pure raven]

nah they would execute kaido if they'd catch him

[lunar wren]

maybe unearthing something under wano/ what if kaido wants to drop it on the capital because it has a resource or something hidden inside it

[sudden condor]

he can't be executed

[pure raven]

well be prepared for the very real possibility of that

they'd at least try. doubt they'd let him go to jail

[lunar wren]

sea stone paired with akainu

[sudden condor]

rip

[lunar wren]

white beard got hit by akainu

[sudden condor]

sea stone and jigsaw didnt worked

so they wont think about much

[lunar wren]

im just thinking if he had that busted of a conq haki armor then he coulda just dominated the WG so they have to have something to hurt him at least

[sudden condor]

i still can't imagine luffy beating kaido

[lunar wren]

no way

[scenic thicket]

otama will tame kaido

and become an emporer

[lunar wren]

possible sadly

if otama trains her ability, she can maybe even give buffs. tame sea kings and just rule the sea

sea kings can change the currents and stuff in the water if there are enough im guessing, make a literally impossible sea

[frozen lantern]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO Imagine!

[sudden condor]

man how many mangas are left for this arc to get over

waiting for world govt arc to start

[scenic thicket]

when was the enemies cover released?

[pure raven]

probably not that much longer

[ancient vault]

was already confirmed its not possible

[cyan berry]

She can't use her fruits on Zoans

[cerulean coyote]

The real question: can Tama tame Momo since he has an artificial fruit?

[vast echo]

that would render shirahoshi useless, not happening

[lunar wren]

was memeing

[cyan berry]

check the channel description

[lunar wren]

but its posible that she could weaken kaido still

[vast echo]

first time in manga theories my b

[cyan berry]

please try to keep this channel relatively meme free

[sacred hawk]

You what would be the funniest way for Kaido to be beaten?

[lunar wren]

kaido will have a hard time maybe resisting the df

[lunar wren]

ah, did she try it on a zoan before?

[tired osprey]

usopp did

[sacred hawk]

Have Luffy defeat him in the skies above the capital. And all the citizens start seeing Ryuma in Luffy

[tired osprey]

to p1 i believe

[cyan berry]

Usopp tried throwing it into Ulti and Page 1's mouths while they were chasing them

it didn't work

and it didn't even weaken them

[quiet wedge]

Luffy awakens gomu no mi, turns Wano into rubber, Kaido's island bounces off with only him and his allies, bounces all the way to the moon

[vast echo]

The dude that slayed a dragon, damn. Something like that could happen.

the citizens part i mean

[lunar wren]

that sounds too far off to me bcuz he been training ryuo so he probsbeen brainstorming ryuo moves which kaido saw luffy attempt at

makes sense if he will attempt to combine ryuo and coq into his other forms

[reef grotto]

I just realized "kabuto" is a kind of beetle in japanese

more evidence that the kabuto will eat a devil fruit

a beetle devil fruit

[vast echo]

i just want a Gomu Gomu no HIKEN

[reef grotto]

I kinda wanted kabuto to get a paramecia power like mr 5's though

[lunar wren]

hiken?

[cyan berry]

fire fist

ace's move

even though that's just Red Hawk

[lunar wren]

would be cool if his new movie was like sabos claws

so like a dragon slayer move. one that can slay godly dragons

do we know if you can apply your df power to the coq haki aura. dont remember seeing a paramecia user with it yet. so like luffy effects the aura and it becomes bouncy

im thinking like if katakuri had that enemies might stick to the aura cuz of the mochi quality on it

[vast echo]

this would be like the conqueror haki version of Red Hawk

[pseudo citrus]

Ace was Yamato's only friend, imagine how hyped Yamato would be to see a Red Hawk

[vast echo]

Gomu Gomu no HIKEN
to enter the fight saving Yamato would be hype

[pseudo citrus]

Yamato looks up to see Luffy looking like Ace... hold on let me put this in my fanfic

[scenic thicket]

I think blackbeard inhereted rocks d xebecs will of d. i wonder who will take over aces

or maybe kidd inhereted rocks will

[vast echo]

I feel like this could actually happen.
Tama mentioned past with Ace to luffy, then Luffy REDHAWKS
TheLionStomachdude to save Tama.
Here me out
Yamato mentions past with Ace, Luffy HIKENS Kaido to save Yamato.

itd be sick

[sacred hawk]

You know, I feel like eventually, Nami will be able to use Big Mom's Maser Canon attack. That feels like a perfect setup for Nami's endgame

[tranquil depot]

Who else thinks gold roger is alive and sitting on top of the one piece?

[pure raven]

[supple nimbus]

She'd wheeze; I want that panel please.

[supple nimbus]

He's been sitting there for a long time don'tcha think?

[tranquil depot]

Sit-sit devil fruit

[shell kettle]

Theory I think Shanks might be evil

[faint rain]

Are we allowed to discuss the latest chapter here?

[sturdy hound]

yes, but keep it to theories. if you want to talk about it generally, then go to #manga or #also-manga

[mortal field]

Idk why this theory hit me but this seems to be the possible outcome

So at the end of wano, Kaido and BM are gonna be beaten. Luffy, Kidd, and Law are going to become Emperors (no shit) but Yamato and Katakuri are gonna fill the role in the Big Mom pirates (probably name them the Sweet Pirates) and the Beast pirates

However, Kaido and BM will be killed by CP0 qs they're checking over this current new gen vs old gen war

Yamato is going to try and beg Luffy to join just like other have done in Dressrosa and Luffy gonna deny it. So then someone from the strawhats will offer an alliance with the beast pirates and Yamato will agree to that

With the "Go to Wano" arc out the way and them getting 3 red stones, they only need 1 more and i doubt BB have it on him

BB might actually try to find a way to Laughtale without the stones by fighting Luffy there, and i doubt Shanks have it

For him to report to the Mariejois, him having something that will guide the world to the brink of destruction doesnt suit him

Thus i think that Mariejois could possibly have it, making Luffy sail there

At the complete end of Wano, Rob is gonna reveal himself to Luffy and tell him that he should see him at Mariejois as well as a familar face (Sabo)

That leads to the next arc, and then we go back to Shanks, then end it off with BB

However i do think that Mariejois could also be the end as well instead of BB. Idk

[dense hazel]

xD

[edgy meadow]

i think the world government found pluton 😈

So basically i think that coba nefertari has been killed or imprisoned by the world government for hiding the location of pluton. Something was going on at alabasta, they had the location of pluton on the poneglyph there and from the reverie something has obviously happened to either cobra or vivi (i think it was relating to cobra). Judging from the poneglyph they have it would make sense they knew where pluton was. I think that since the world government discovered this it gave them the firepower to back the idea of abolishing the 7 warlord of the sea system. The nefertari were part of the 20 kings alliance in the void century, but refused to to go to mariejois so this could show that maybe they were perhaps against what the other 20 kings did in the war but maybe were scared to go up against them. So that why i think that the world government have pluton

[normal plume]

I also agree Cobra was dealt with, but what of Vivi. Imu seems to have other intentions for her. And if he Cobra died why then is only an attempted assassination announced?

I forget though there were two big pieces of news, I should reread maybe one was a death aH

[weary cliff]

What if like how the Skypeia poneglyph points to Poseidon all the way at FMI, that Pluton is nowhere near Alabasta. It would be convenient for it to be somewhere in the New World, since that's where the climax seems to be building

[modest skiff]

i like this

[quaint dove]

I think it’s next to be impossible for WG to have the final red poneglyph cuz we know it was on fishman island before. Doesn’t it make the most sense that WB took it and put it on the island where he’s buried, then when Shanks dropped off ace and WB he took the stone to safekeep in WBs place. Could also be the stone is still there and Marco will take Luffy there to visit aces grave

[shadow jewel]

Well we know for sure that WB did have it, technically. It was at Fishman island, which he owned. So I'd imagine he took it with him before he died, to avoid Big Mom taking it. Big Mom already had a poneglyph, so we know she didnt take it for sure

I'd find it cool if blackbeard took it at the war they had. Itd honestly be a great way to reintroduce him back into the story, instead of "oh.. yeah, luffy needs to beat that guy"

[warm plank]

Alright, what are the popular theories of Kaido having his reason with Wano?

[weary cliff]

The obvious one is that he has an idea that Wano would be important to Joyboy and the dawn of the world

[pure raven]

It's also the most unreachable place or very problematicly reachable place in the world for the world government

BM made her own nation
Kaido took over an independent nation

[void herald]

I think by the end of Wano, we'll get a bunch more info about the relationship between Kaido, the World Gov, and Vegapunk. I think Vegapunk is on Elbaf (why would the guy studying giants NOT be on the island full of giants?), which gives the story a reason to go there. I think the last poneglyph is going to be there. Then Laugh Tale will be a mini-arc with no villain, followed by a pseudo-timeskip where they make their 2nd trip through the Grand Line. Which leads us to Mariejois, the final arc, which is where Blackbeard will come into play, which could possibly involve using Whitebeard's fruit to break the Red Line.

I still have no idea what Shanks's deal is or will be. I feel like he's more relevant to Blackbeard and the World Gov, but I don't think Luffy finds the One Piece before challenging Shanks (which Bartolomeo technically already did on his behalf). But I also don't know why he would be on Elbaf. Also no idea where the Revolutionaries tie in, either. Finding out what happened at the Reverie will probably make things more clear.

Of course, I'm going to be completely wrong about most of this.

And for what it's worth, I don't think Shanks and Kaido actually fought before Marineford - I think they made a deal. I like the theory that Shanks is actually the leader of the Underworld, and that could be part of it. It could also lead to its own arc of Red-Hair Pirates vs the Revolutionaries.

[snow cloak]

I think there will be a war between admirals and BB or admirals vs dragon.So far we didn't see that much of admirals one on one fight against emperors or any other major pirates.The only one who can fight against emperors one on one and win is probably akainu. Even ace vs aokiji both of them were on same power level.But akainu didn't put much effort and killed ace went against wb even on the hunt for bb after that.

[pure raven]

Saying aokiji being same on ace lavel is too much cause TBH at paramount war we did not saw their full potential, but when we think about the duel BTW aokiji and akainu which lasted for days was really something

[oak mural]

rev army is like 1.5 yonko crew i guess navy will have less chance worse than marinfold

[oak mural]

aokiji is actually a secret rev i think

even jack d saul is alive i guess

[void herald]

last we heard of Aokiji, he was joining Blackbeard, but I think there is def more to him than we know

[pure raven]

Well he is, he always think out of the box that's why he left navy I Guess their is something which he want to know or understand clearly

[oak mural]

nah he feels bb is the threat so he joins them thats the reason why the revs were unharmed when bb attacked their base

[pure raven]

Do u remember conversation BTW smoker and aokiji at punk hazard

[oak mural]

cuz aokiji had informed them before itself

[last void]

Aokiji joined BB because he is either a Part of SWORD or the Revolutionary Army

[grizzled fog]

Doubt he’s either

More likely just independent

[last void]

Well he did Talk to Smoker and say that he was Part of the Underground

[pastel summit]

he said he was independent

and that not working for the government gave him a new perspective. so he's not sword.

[last void]

So most likely he is in the Rev.Army

[odd canopy]

mom = yes

that's my teory that i spent 1 week writing.

[tardy dune]

Luffy will likely allow FMI and Wano to fly his flag for protection after he takes down the 2 Yonko in this current arc. The other lands they control will likely be taken by blackbeard.

[queen wind]

After luffy learns about the assassination of sabo (speculation) he goes to save sabo and along the way meets the revolutionary army and dragon to take down the world government
blackbeard wants to interfere but shanks stops him
a big war breaks out
stuff happens (plausible?)

[last void]

What about Totto Land?

Katakuri takes it right?

[tardy dune]

Luffy doesn't have a motive to protect Totto Land

Katakuri would prob take it yeah, or Perospero

[last void]

ofc not.But who else would take it?

Kata,pero or even Kidd or Law

[queen wind]

what is fmi?

[last void]

Heck even Blackbeard could come there

[last void]

Fishman Island

[queen wind]

oh

[tardy dune]

Doubtful kid or law could take totto land cuz the rest of the BM pirates probably wanna keep it

Maybe though, not denying that it could happen, just that I don't think it will

[last void]

I wonder what would Happen to the Pirate Alliance after then War

I mean Law never had a proper Goal

The Only thing he wanted to do was Take down Doflamingo,which he succeeded thanks to Luffy

And now,he wants to know the Will of D

[queen wind]

and luffy is the key to that

so i think he'll still stick with the alliance

[last void]

Perhaps

[tardy dune]

Law's goal was to take down Kaido

[queen wind]

not really, his original plan was to take down doflamingo

[tardy dune]

I think straw hat/heart pirate alliance will continue after but they won't stay completely together for now

[queen wind]

he only said kaidou to intrigue luffy

[tardy dune]

He wanted to take down Ceaser to stop production of SAD to stop production of smile to

Huh you're right. Nvm

[pure raven]

Law is actually really fun in deeper analysis

[bitter agate]

luffy dies

[pure raven]

Man wanted to take down Doflamingo and dangled an alliance to Luffy and masqueraded the plan to the best of his ability to either take him down personally or use Kaido to take him down. And even after taking him down, upholds his word with the straw-hats and further enables their friendship

I wonder if Oda will ever actually follow up on the whole "Using Gear 2 shaves off more parts of your life"

[queen wind]

whenever in anime, they say stuff like that
"this is gonna reduce my lifespan so its a last resort"
it doesn't matter to us because the show ends before the protagonist becomes an adult or old
for example, one piece will end after luffy becomes pirate king
lets say 30 years have been removed from his lifespan
his max age went from 80 to 50
we will never get to see him at 50

[pure raven]

normally I'd be inclined to agree cause that is very common in shounen tropes however Oda's set himself apart by being mostly consistent with his writing and thus may actually follow up on that

One Piece Shounen =/= other shounen

Power of friendship is not a literal power booster like it is in other shows

[queen wind]

also, as luffy trained more, he can use gear 2 and 3 more freely and doesn;t have to suffer consequences

we don't ever see kid luffy nowadays, i miss kid luffy

[visual plinth]

He will follow up on it or at least i really hope he does luffy also shortened his lifespan even more during impel down - marineford

[pure raven]

potential Chopper moment? /shrug

[visual plinth]

possible there's also the theory that law will perform the surgery on luffy which I'm not a big fan of so I'd prefer if it was a chopper moment

[light pond]

Not gonna happen specially since corazon sacrifice his life for law to live his life to the fullest I dont think he will sacrifice it for luffy

Also not because they reveal yhat ultimate technique for law does not mean he needs to use it just like how mansherry does not need to use the ultimate technique of her fruit tht will sacrifice her life

[vestal orbit]

law's a little bit more important than mansherry though

[visual plinth]

even if he doesn't necessarily use his surgery on luffy he's definitely gonna die

[light pond]

Wtf?! How is he definitely gonna die?

[light pond]

How is it much important when there is not even any context that any of the two will use it?

Law and Jinbe has always been in the fans kill list and you just gotta accept they will not die anytime soon

[vestal orbit]

mansherry's only appeared a couple of times, so most people wouldn't really care if she died and she has little to no opportunities for her ultimate technique to come into play

law's appearing a lot more than mansherry so there's both more weight and relevance to his death and more opportunities for his ultimate technique to come into play

man your really changed my opinion, nevermind i take back everything i said

[light pond]

I emote cause this is stupid lol in everyway and everypoint

[vestal orbit]

ok bro you convinced me

[light pond]

Oh no i dont need to convince u cause lol u can be have that opinion all u want lol i just think it is stupid

Not because law is popular he will die

A characters importance in the story does not relate to his popularity and from the context of the story law dying is far from happening

[grizzled fog]

This is what makes law unlikely to die

[vestal orbit]

not anytime soon ofc but i do think he'll die some point in the story

[visual plinth]

if there's any major character i see dying during the final war its law and I'm gonna stand by it if u disagree it's fine u might think it's stupid to think that but i don't. We'll see what happens u don't have to get all mad about it if he doesn't die I'll be the stupid one.

[light pond]

Ok i will respectfully disagree also i am not mad that is why I rather emote than comment to some of things in here

[vestal orbit]

not sure why you felt the need to drop a kekw

what did you think i was arguing?

[visual plinth]

I'm always open to different ideas/theories unless it's something outlandish like luffy controlling water it promotes discussions don't get why u have to be so petty (emoting) and out right diminish any possibility of it happening you're just gonna look stupid in the end if it happens

[light pond]

Well IMO Law had made it clear he wants to make his life his own so i dont see him sacrificing his life for anyone especially a rival like luffy

[languid pivot]

he probably won’t even do it

[scarlet cedar]

we are forgetting something important about one piece

the reborn of Wapol

[languid pivot]

the one piece is the combination of all devil fruits

the fruit fruit no me

[scarlet cedar]

he has a army selling his unique wapometal

he wont be a villain (that's obvious) but their actions will be relevant at one point of one piece

Remember that franky it's made of wapometal?

[fathom matrix]

I like the theory that every single weird occurance on the grand line, is due to a devil fruit power.

What if the D clan actually experimented in making devil fruits, and the reason why they're notorious for smiling, isn't because of an actual factor in their blood, but a reference or hint that they probably did something similar to what ceaser did, where they tried to make these powerful fruits, and some of the failures ended up making some of them permantly smile

And the reason why joy boy's called joy boy, is because he never stopped smiling, like, he could have been this weak dude, who failed to get a power, and people are like "Why can't you be like him? He's so happy, we call him job boy" and that was a nickname to begin with, but as we can tell the latest chapter, maybe it became a title to him, then as life went on, it became descriptive to a certain person, who was like him or was just as ambitious.

Hell, maybe whoever was the WG to begin with before the WG, made fun of him saying "Ha there's joyboy" but over time as he gained power and fought back, it became an actual name to be wary of, due to doing some stuff.

[queen wind]

Nah I strongly believe this ain't it

[pure raven]

[coarse hinge]

Then who's the DF creator. It's Mariejoa treasure is DF Tree?

[last void]

Theory:There is a Huge DF tree in Mariejois.And when the Tree is Destroyed,All DF Users die

[amber oar]

Punk Hazard hinted there's no df tree by showing a df spawning from a regular fruit on the spot

[coarse hinge]

No way dude.

[thick sky]

Luffy destroys that tree in the final war while destroying Mariejois and the red line. And alas, luffy dies before being the Pirate King

[coarse hinge]

Very basic question since the series started. Is there actually the Devil exist in the fruits?

[coarse hinge]

If want like that. Celestial Dragons themselves will destroy it not by the other. So their enemies will be dead are over but in fact no.

[acoustic helm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/ny3iss/a_bit_of_a_long_hypothesis_the_land_of_wano_is/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[tribal belfry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/nxnmcy/world_government_after_pluton/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[fathom matrix]

So yaknow the whole Oda and baby thing, saying it's been ages since he held a kid and Oda in the latest SBS made a whistling "whatdo you mean" thing on it, pretending like he didn't intend anything??

I don't think Roger had another kid. I like to imagine Roger probably had a little brother or sister he looked after or held as a baby, or he held or looked after someone else's kid.

Roger having another kid seems too easy

[weak arrow]

Most people seem to believe he picked up babby buggy/shanks from god island

not that he had another kid

[fathom matrix]

That would make sense

[weak arrow]

One could be a CD and one could be Xebec's son. That would also go into Roger telling Garp a child didnt commit their father's sins

[viral aspen]

What if the baby Roger was talking about was Robin?

[pastel summit]

it wasn't.

[viral aspen]

How are you so sure

[fathom matrix]

It could have been a scenario like Nami, where 2 orphaned kids were abandoned and so they were picked up and raised,

[pastel summit]

Because that comment was only 2 years after Robin was born.

[viral aspen]

“For a while” could mean 2 years

[fathom matrix]

It would be pretty funny if Buggy and Shanks turned out to be actual brothers, and if they reuinted with Rayleigh, he said "well you two never asked"

[weak arrow]

I'd say robin is highly, highly unlikely

[pastel summit]

"Reminds me of the old days" when they're talking about 2 yrs ago? lol. Rayleigh and Roger were crewmates for decades.

[weak arrow]

the implication really is buggy/shanks

[fathom matrix]

in her 30s, black hair, sure, but Oda did state her father went on a expedition and died I think.

[viral aspen]

What do you guys think of the Roger is Robins dad theory

[fathom matrix]

nah

[pastel summit]

Also heavily implied her dad was a scholar, which roger was not.

[fathom matrix]

Roger had people do stuff for him, and it was shown that Odin did the carvings for him

[pastel summit]

because roger couldn't actually read or write in the language.

[viral aspen]

Well I think it would be fun but I wouldn’t t mind if it wasn’t true

[weak arrow]

There is no point to it

[viral aspen]

No point? It would be a fun twist

[weak arrow]

no, it would be a random twist for the sake of a random twist

those arent good

[fathom matrix]

Plus, Robin already had enough issues just being a survivor from Ohara.

Being Roger's son was Ace's arc he had to deal with and suffered and died for.

Robin being his daughter would be like "Okay cool....and?"

[coarse hinge]

@last void according this dude. How about Luffy's Mom is Rocks daughter & Shanks sister? How about that, seems make a sense.

[last void]

pretty sure that Kid was Shanks

[fathom matrix]

yeah, we're all thinking it was Shanks and Buggy

[last void]

That's exactly what I was Thinking

[fathom matrix]

I would find it pretty funny if it turned out Roger just found 2 crying orphan babies, rushed over to the crew and shouted "HEY GUYS, LOOK WHAT I FOUND! LET'S KEEP THEM!" but everyone on the ship shouted "NO WAY" but eventually gave in

[viral aspen]

He would totally do that

[fathom matrix]

Didn't care where they came from or who they belonged to, he just saw too lonely kids and took them on board.

[tribal belfry]

isn't Shanks from the West Blue?

[last void]

If Shanks was Xebec's Son,I can Imagine a Scenario where After the War with Blackbeard,the Strawhats Take his Child as an Apprentice

[coarse hinge]

The problem is Buggy's nose isn't fake.

[fathom matrix]

ok, and? what does that have to do with it?

[last void]

yes

[viral aspen]

Sorry your point?

[coarse hinge]

Shanks must've same nose like Buggy xD

[tribal belfry]

Wait if Shanks was from West Blue how could he be Xebec's son?

was Xebec from West Blue too?

[viral aspen]

Well if you want to compare kids In one piece look at Big moms none of them look alike

[coarse hinge]

How about faking identity?

[fathom matrix]

It would be ironic, that Xebec's son is going up against Xebec's successor

(Teach)

[last void]

Whereas Roger's Successor and Roger's Son are....ya know

[tribal belfry]

Shanks would have will of D if he was Xebex's son tho

[last void]

One thing I'm 100% sure is that Shanks is also a Bearer of the Will of D

[coarse hinge]

Here I've a thought. Rocks have 3 kids. Luffy's Mom, Shanks, & Buggy. That's crazy.

[fathom matrix]

and xebec's successor got roger's son killed and xebec's son inpired roger successor

[tribal belfry]

how do you know?

[last void]

||Also Maybe Ace's Mom||

[tribal belfry]

hmm that's rlly possible

[last void]

It kinda is Obvious.Why else would Roger give Shanks the Strawhat and Not Buggy?

[tribal belfry]

I mean you don't have to have the will of D to do great things

[coarse hinge]

And their Mom is a Celestial Dragon.

[tribal belfry]

like Whitebeard didn't have will of D

[last void]

Not great Things

Like the Strawhat has a Meaning to it

[coarse hinge]

WB didn't even care about all of that. He only wants family.

[last void]

Like he must have seen Something in Shanks to give his Hat like that

[tribal belfry]

it doesn't have to be will of D tho

[coarse hinge]

Dragon gave a mission to Shanks so Luffy didn't got Garp's influence for being Marine?

[pure raven]

I THINK IS SHANKS IS ON THE SAME POWER LEVEL OF ROGER PRIME

[viral aspen]

I heard a theory that the straw hat is a lucky item. That that is the 1 percent variable the tarot card guy was taking about

[tribal belfry]

I always thought of will of D as people being descendants from a demon or devil or smtn

[fathom matrix]

it's probably gonna be dawn

[coarse hinge]

Anyone can answer this?

[pure raven]

Will of D are natutal enemies on celestial gods

[viral aspen]

That would be cool oda is slipping in some supernatural elements

[tribal belfry]

no one knows yet

[viral aspen]

What do y’all think of the theory that Luffys mom was a celestial dragon

[tribal belfry]

Luffy's mom is crocadile

[pure raven]

I would like to know the story behind devil fruit or there is a chance it might might be connected with the void century or ancient weapon

[fathom matrix]

Here's the thing, does it need to be a starwars thing where everyone has to be biologiclaly related to something important?

It's interesting the first couple of times, but when it's over done, it loses it's charm

[coarse hinge]

Dragon only knowed personally by high-rank Marine/WG.

[tribal belfry]

I mean will of D is hereditory, so it would have to be biologically related

[coarse hinge]

Oda has draws Crocodile when he's a kid. He 100% legit a dude.

[viral aspen]

My theory is the devil fruits are hearts/powers of people from the void century and the one piece is the key to destroying the fruits. I think the navy uses the devil fruits to subjugate the world

[tribal belfry]

lmao I was joking

[coarse hinge]

I'm afraid the one who reads it will believe it

[tribal belfry]

I mean logias could change genders tho

[pure raven]

@viral aspen interesting.

[viral aspen]

I like the theory that Crocodile might have been female first. The mom thing though

[coarse hinge]

Oh no, here we go again.

[viral aspen]

Hey I don’t think Crocodile would ever have a kid he’s way too selfish

[pure raven]

Why do you think crocodile selfish

[viral aspen]

He’s a murdering dictator

[radiant light]

guys... did you notice we will have at least 4 - 5 chaps with flashback..

[queen wind]

Maybe

[viral aspen]

That’s fine with me

[coarse hinge]

Hey all. What kind of ability that Shanks & Beckman were used during Marineford they moves so fast & that faster than the Ship itself even Kizaru's calliber didn't realize?

[viral aspen]

Haki

[radiant light]

i want to see who will fight against perospero 😦

[coarse hinge]

Chapter 1020 finally Kaido's flashback?

[queen wind]

Instant transmission

[pure raven]

He saved luffy from akaino

[viral aspen]

I hope so I can’t wait

[radiant light]

lucky roo rumors says he can move really fast

[coarse hinge]

Kind of what?

[weak arrow]

it's called moving offscreen.

[fathom matrix]

I think what happened was (which isn't my theory but one that was arounding), was that Crocodile's defeat from whitebeard was extremely embarassing, that only Ivancov knows about it and the details, and so maybe when Crocodile went back to his crew, Ivan helped make up a story to "cover him" but was like "you owe me one, croco-boy"

[queen wind]

Benn Beckman slowly climbed the ship and sat in a position to appear like a badass

[last void]

btw do y'all remember when Roger said that the Next Pirate King would be his Son?

[viral aspen]

People can kick the air to fly in one piece so maybe the spiritual pressure does something…

[queen wind]

No

[coarse hinge]

Mostly Crocodile was captured by Celestial Dragon, Ivan knows it since Croco at the time was rookie. That more sense.

[radiant light]

i have 1 theory mugiwara will have another fight against big mom and her on elbaf... and we will see her full story 100%

[last void]

ok

[queen wind]

Yea crocodile could be a slave who was freed by the revolutiomary army and so, ivankov knows his secret

[coarse hinge]

Oh no Big Mom again a row

[fathom matrix]

Eeeeeh, maybe. I'm not sure on that, but since he is a revolutionary, maybe Crocodile did something humiliating for the celestial dragons, Ivancov saved him during it.

[viral aspen]

I think all we need to see at this point is for her to realize what she did to her family/mother. She now can’t be officially defeated for a while because of Namis power up

[coarse hinge]

But imo Croco was never being a female just bcs hillarous Iva's ability.

[radiant light]

yes 😦 she lost a wedding and an important information that went in mugi's arm :/

[viral aspen]

Big moms relationship with Tama in this arc may help her realize what she did to mother Caramel

[coarse hinge]

IMO think Elbaf is Red Hair Pirates base. So Big Mom again will invade other Yonko base?

[radiant light]

if is red territory , we will meet him since luffy is his friend.... :/ dunno but big mom story is not ended 😦

[coarse hinge]

Straw Hats vs Red Haired is Davy Back Fight. Afro Luffy will be back.

[viral aspen]

What powers do you guys think Yamato has? I think he might have Oni powers

[fathom matrix]

I can imagine if she DID go to elbaf, they'd have to break the news to big mom and explain why they don't like her, saying "we could care less if the king wanted to marry your daughter, you killed one of our greatest heroes and cannibalised you entire family"

[radiant light]

tiger devil fruit..

[coarse hinge]

What kind of animal her DF is? There's a manga panel when she's going on against Sasaki.

[viral aspen]

I think an animal power would be lame

[fathom matrix]

people suggest it's that mythical white tiger devil fruit

Also, at the end of the latest chapter, we saw black sparks. Conqueors haki user confirmed? For Yamato

[radiant light]

she had a big fang

[viral aspen]

You are probably right

[coarse hinge]

How about that only Kaido?

[radiant light]

imagine if she has dragon fruit lmaooooo

[weary inlet]

Blackbeard might get a third devil fruit

[viral aspen]

I say why not

[weary inlet]

A zoan maybe

[fathom matrix]

probably, but normally when there's a clash of CoC haki users, there's large amounts of black sparks

[viral aspen]

Yamato has the soup soup fruit

[radiant light]

kaido will be a little fish and she will burn him c:

[viral aspen]

I wanna see Yamato in a new outfit I wonder what his style is

[radiant light]

i want to see who will fight perospero 😦

[fathom matrix]

I still have a feeling that all the 9 red scabbard will die

or at least a good chunk of them

[viral aspen]

I hope not 🥲

[radiant light]

momo's father is alive he will laugh when kaido will lose just like oden 🙂

[fathom matrix]

Cause they seem to all be almost on death's door

[viral aspen]

I think Momos grandfather is alive

I think Tenguyama is the old king

[radiant light]

probably 😮

[viral aspen]

He does have wings though so I might just be full of 💩

[radiant light]

i see a scheme.. brook and robin fighting usopp and nami together . remember me of thriller bark :/

[viral aspen]

Do y’all think Otama is an Orochi

Because of her purple hair

[radiant light]

YES . oda never do anything without a reason..

[viral aspen]

Wait what are you talking about

[coarse hinge]

Here is a little clue about Yamato's DF. What kind of creature of that? #chapter996

[viral aspen]

I think Yamato is an Oni

But a horned white tiger would also look cool

[coarse hinge]

Hito Hito no Mi: Model Oni ?

Definitely Ancient Model

[viral aspen]

I would love it if Carrot joins the crew but it’s never addressed. She will probably become part of the grand fleet with a beast man crew tho

[coarse hinge]

Yap. That's more make a sense. She will form her own Mink division for Grand Fleet.

[tepid minnow]

a dream, sad flashback and a gag are required to join the crew. But I agree about the grand fleet

[viral aspen]

I wonder how Laws crew are going to heal Luffy.

[pure raven]

Yamato could have coc

[viral aspen]

What do you mean by coc

[tepid minnow]

Marco will probably heal him

[viral aspen]

Go on..

[compact magnet]

Conquerors haki

[coarse hinge]

Ain't he was busy handle King?

[viral aspen]

Good point Janggo

[tepid minnow]

Could leave him to Zoro after he's "healed" because his main fights are usually done while he's injured

Luffy is in a great risk anyway since the big mom pirates are on the sea so he'll need backup

[viral aspen]

Do you guys think luffys healing factor is real or just for gags? Like when him and Brook drank milk and healed bones

[warm oak]

I forgot about them!! This is gonna get so interesting

[reef grotto]

dragon fruit with pointy teeth? naaah

I say mythical dog or tiger

it would be dope if she had a fish-man fruit

just like chopper has the homo homo fruit

[coarse hinge]

That teeth looks like fishman.

[sand onyx]

Can we post theories here

[reef grotto]

the only reason why I don't think yamato will have a fishman fruit is that from what we know it's not a strong fruit

unless they somehow invent a mythical fish-man creature

she's probably gonna have the mythical white tiger to pair it with kaido's fruit tbh it's pretty clear

[coarse hinge]

Yap I think that's Mythical Fish too

[coarse hinge]

Lets up

[visual merlin]

yes

[sand onyx]

Oh nice

[viral aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-waiting-still-waiting-gif-13052487

[sand onyx]

I'm almost there lol

[coarse hinge]

Oke guys. How about Garp being the inventor of Rokushiki movements?

[viral aspen]

Interesting

[sand onyx]

So it’s a theory about swimming and devil fruits. Basically, devil fruits have always existed even before the void century and that’s why we see things like fish devil fruits like with Kaido. To me, this is Oda kind of nudging us towards the idea of devil fruit users being able to swim since otherwise, it would be pretty pointless for fish fruits to exist. Anyway, during the void century, the world government made it so that devil fruit users can’t swim. Whether this is with Uranus or Im’s power I’m not sure, but if they can have a “great cleansing” this doesn’t seem too far-fetched. Fast forward to the present storyline, and everyone thinks devil fruit users can’t swim since that’s just how the world works. When Luffy and everyone find the one piece whatever the one piece is will basically bring things back to the way they were before, this could be with the ancient weapons or some other thing like again a weird power like Im. So at the end of the story people with devil fruits will be able to swim.

this is sorta the bare bones theory and someone may have thought of it before but these are just some thoughts

[viral aspen]

I think it’s a good theory

[tranquil mesa]

not sure if this has been posted before but thinking of how kaido would be defeated. i can't imagine luffy outright killing him and not sure how he's holding up onigashima but is it possible if when he's defeated it lands on him?

or is he only holding it up while he's on it

[iron lion]

@sand onyxbut why would the world government try to surpress this information violently in the first place if that's the truth of the void century?

to me there's always the issue of what happened during the void century being so major that if word really got out it'd cause a worldwide civil war

[coarse hinge]

Yap. I think I've read similar this theory. Also I believe Luffy will be able swim for soon. That wouldn't complete for Freedom especially being Pirate but can't swim. Imagine swim enhanced by Gear 2 that'll

[oak mural]

i think someone has used eternal life on imu

[sand onyx]

because people if people knew they could swim than that would be dangerous

[iron lion]

the only thing that seems close to me is the World Government installing Great Imu during the void century as the King of All Earth along with a deliberate technological regression to near collapse levels.

but would that really cause a worldwide civil war?

devil fruit users are already very common among the officer corps of three great powers

[sand onyx]

maybe not a civil war but if they knew that the potential to swim was there than they would start looking for a way to do it. Hell vegapunk might already know how to make it happen but can't

[coarse hinge]

Imu has been alive for 800 years since Joyboy era. He/She used Ope-Ope no Mi user to sacrifice for him/her.

[oak mural]

ye ofc thats the most logical reason

[pure raven]

DF users swimming isn’t dangerous lol some of their powers are already dangerous and destructive on land and ships. That kinda power with no downside would be sorta odd, so I think them not being able to swim is the equalizer that oda put in not the world gov

[iron lion]

the idea of technological regression makes sense to me because that explains why the Pluton as an Ancient Battleship is seen as this massive weapon that'll be impossible to defeat without another ancient weapon to counteract. It's like if a WW2 Battleship like the Yamato was plopped into a world of One Piece that was still hewing to the ideas of the Age of Sail- Complete demolition of the Competition.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Japanese_battleship_Yamato_running_trials_off_Bungo_Strait%2C_20_October_1941.jpg

[coarse hinge]

What's making the Ancient tech so sophisticated?

Then, what is Uranus?

[iron lion]

Uranus means heaven so it could be the blueprints for something like a One Piece version of the Helicarrier. Though that seems a bit mundane

[left field]

Uranus I believe is meant to destroy Marijois

There are 3 walls that prevent the ocean from becoming One Piece and the 3 ultimate weapons must destroy these 3 walls:
Pluton: Reverse mountain
Poseidon: Calm Belt (neutralizes the Sea Kings that prevent anyone from crossing it)
Uranus: Still don't know what it is, might not even be a machine or weapon, it could very well be a person. All I know is that I believe this final ultimate weapon is meant to take down Marijois, the final wall that blocks the unison of the world's oceans, AKA One Piece

[mighty valve]

Who do you think shirohige is referring to here who wanted to also be a leader in the rocks ship?

Or just in general for the big egos that were there?

[left field]

by Shirohige you are referring to Whitebeard right

[mighty valve]

Yeah

[left field]

Well in that frame u sent "when selfish people like you come together" he is clearly addressing Oden

[mighty valve]

Yeah he's talking to Oden but who do you think he's referring to from the old crew if anyone specifically

[tepid minnow]

he's referring to all of them

[coarse hinge]

Uranus destroy Mariejoa. These 3 would go at the same time 🔥

[teal crag]

Everyone from Rocks Pirates

[left field]

Franky burned the Pluton blueprints to "prevent CP9 from getting them" but really I believe he still remembers them, and he's gonna use pluton to take down reverse mountain once the Staw hats get there again

[mighty valve]

Yeah I was wondering if it could be someone in particular who fought rocks to be the leader of the pirates who hasn't been revealed yet. Idk maybe it's far fetched

[coarse hinge]

Franky built the new Pluton & Sunny will merge to that. That'll be cool Gundam transformation

[left field]

for all we know maybe the Sunny had pluton's weapon built into it the whole time

and that would be a good reason for Kuma to try so incredibly hard to guard the Sunny when it was stuck in Sabaody for 2 years

[coarse hinge]

But I wonder who's gonna use the og Pluton?

[left field]

Pluton being in the Sunny isn't the actual reason why Kuma guarded the Sunny obviously, but it would emphasize the Sunny's importance for sure

There is an important character we haven't seen at all in One Piece, and he may very well know Pluton

but he is also not sided with pirates

[coarse hinge]

BB more likely will go to Alabasta to take Pluton. Check chapter 957.

[left field]

yeah I remember that, he said something around the lines of "I'm just gonna go get it for myself!"

[coarse hinge]

Yap. That. He said "Instead the Marine, I will take it for myself".

[left field]

And that also makes sense cause it would mean Luffy would need to fight Blackbeard

[coarse hinge]

Pluton vs. New Pluton. That's crazy 🔥

[tepid minnow]

I wish franky will upgrade the ship so that it can cross the calm belt and visit the other seas

[left field]

Remeber the posters that Im-sama has?

list them, and specify which ones are ripped

[coarse hinge]

Foreshadowing. Those 3 (Luffy, Vivi, BB) were related to Pluton.

[left field]

there was another poster

[reef grotto]

wasn't it an ancient art

[left field]

the other poster was of Shirahoshi.

[tribal belfry]

This was my theory about Pluton: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/nxnmcy/world_government_after_pluton/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I think marines prolly have it at this point in the manga

[reef grotto]

but the one piece looks it like it'll be the unification of all the seas

[left field]

Why would Im have significant interests in those four? All I know is that they are all involved with the untimate weapons in some way. Vivi and BB can be associated with Pluton, Shirahoshi with Poseidon, and Luffy with... Uranus?

[reef grotto]

why is BB associated with pluton?

ah you mean thematically

[coarse hinge]

His word on some panel chapter 957.

[coarse hinge]

...

[left field]

Huh, good thinking. Luffy's interpretation of being King of the Pirates is absolute freedom, and of course one of his shackles is not being able to swim. So perhaps giving DF users the ability to swim again could happen, and Kaido's fruit name could be foreshadowing that

[tribal belfry]

why does kaido have fish devil fruit but can turn into a dragon?

[left field]

There can very well be aquatic dragons that resemble fish ahem Gyarados ahem

[tribal belfry]

Ah ok, but why not just call it the dragon-dragon fruit?

[left field]

If you look at what @sand onyx said, he believes the WG manipulated DF users somehow so that they couldn't swim. Not saying this is exactly true, but it could be because of Kaido's fruit name. How could a fruit that turns you into a FISH make you UNABLE TO SWIM. Personally, I believe Kaido's fruit is called the Fish-fish fruit solely to foreshadow some sort of secret about the DFs

[tepid minnow]

also land, SEA and air

[coarse hinge]

Thanks

[dry hound]

will Yamato join the straw hats ?

[coarse hinge]

Yapp

[white tartan]

feels way too early to say

[coarse hinge]

Ain't she already says that in the current chapter?

[left field]

Will Yamato Join the Straw Hats? at this point is is fairly possible, I mean look at the most recent chapter

[white tartan]

how will she fit in with monster trio power wise?

[dry hound]

ik but We don't know Luffy's anwer

[reef grotto]

uh I didn't realize roger had such a low bounty

[white tartan]

cause i honestly have no clue

[reef grotto]

it's not even 1b higher than kaido

[left field]

Idc about power levels, Yamato needs to have a goal that is somewhat relative to the rest of the Straw Hats

[white tartan]

she has read odens logbook so idk if luffy wants someone who could spoil the whole journey

[left field]

example: Nami and Franky- their goals allign cause Franky wants to sail the Grand Line with the Sunny, and by doing that Nami will be able to map out the seas

[reef grotto]

tbh jinbe also doesn't have that much of an aligning interest with the straw hats, there's no reason he'd think luffy is gonna bring down the world government for now

we know that his goal is gonna be fulfilled thanks to them but he doesn't

[left field]

example 2: Luffy and Sanji- Luffy wants the One Piece, which as a handful of you know may very well be the unison of the seas. The "All Blue" is a currently nonexistent sea with fish from all seas of the world. One Piece and All Blue may very well be the same thing

[reef grotto]

well yamato might want to fulfill joyboy's promise or something, we might get something about that in the flashback

maybe she wants to make luffy joyboy or something

[coarse hinge]

In front of Dragon ofc it'll be cute

[reef grotto]

you think dragon has a higher bounty than roger?

[left field]

Jinbe is a fishman, and he almost surely wants his people to be free. As a member of the Sun Pirates, the "Sun" is symbolic to the fishmen gaining freedom by living on the surface. Sharly foresaw Luffy destroying Fishman island. Luffy is gonna take down Mariejoia and Fishman island is gonna be destroyed in the aftermath since it's right below it. Idk man, but Luffy and Jinbe both want to see freedom of some sort and by being in a crew together they can very well achieve that

[coarse hinge]

Most likely yes. Bcs Brannew only says highest Pirate bounty not in general bounty

[reef grotto]

eeeeeh, that's kind of a stretch

[coarse hinge]

I won't even surprised if he being twice of Roger bounty.

[reef grotto]

like, okay, it's true he said "pirates", but why would he only limit himself to pirates if he knew an even higher bounty

[coarse hinge]

Focus on the situation. Involve every Yonko that's what only Pirates were discussed.

[tribal belfry]

Is dragon considered a pirate?

[left field]

no

[reef grotto]

like, dragon's would be the only single bounty in the world to surpass roger's, why would he not bring that up

[left field]

but he is the world's greatest criminal

[tribal belfry]

Then how does this work?

[reef grotto]

like "hey I'm gonna show you the world's highest bounties except for the one that's actually the highest"

[left field]

and the world's greatest criminal could certainly have the world's greatest bounty

[reef grotto]

this is true, but what I said above kinda conflicts with this

[coarse hinge]

Still waiting yet for the reveal.

[reef grotto]

what I find strange is that they didn't show xebec's bounty, like, they already have shown 2 dead men's bounties

[left field]

when they were listing off the high bounties they weren't listing off the highest bounties, they were listing Yonkos and what bounties they had

Xebec definitely could've had a higher bounty than Roger, after all it took Roger and Garp to take him down

[reef grotto]

okay but in doing that they were also showing the highest bounties in general, it's a topic that should've been brought up

[coarse hinge]

👆 not only that. Extremely strong ofc, he opposed WG directly that even Yonko/Pirate King don't have a guts to do that.

[coarse hinge]

Just wait buddy

[reef grotto]

okay, this isn't hunter x hunter where things happen following a basic line of logic, but still, they should've shown them

[left field]

nah the ambiguity makes it all more exciting, and Oda loves doing that kinda stuff to us

[reef grotto]

yeah but it's stupid nonetheless

like, maybe he did it on purpose, but the way he did it is stupid

[left field]

I appreciate that he didn't show the bounties cause A. the wait
B. the simple fact that it was the Yonkos being listed and that it wasn't about bounties at all, the bounties were just mentioned to flex them

[reef grotto]

roger isn't a yonko

[left field]

he was the king of the pirates

[reef grotto]

still not a yonko

[coarse hinge]

But on the same level or above. He's top pirate after all that's why he's included.

[reef grotto]

xebec would've also been at the same level or above

[coarse hinge]

Sengoku already said don't even his bounty. Every little thing about him is Taboo.

His name even has been erased in history. Everyone who knows him just silent.

[left field]

were those pirates and their bounties mentioned in a backstory?

[tepid minnow]

There is a theory that Xebec is Imu. Since his dream was to rule the world

[coarse hinge]

No way in hell.

[scenic thicket]

xebec is kidd

[left field]

Roger never could've been pirate king if Xebec was alive

[reef grotto]

he already spoiled that he had the D in his name, which was something that they tried to hide even about roger, his bounty should't be a particularly important secret

[coarse hinge]

Just as referal not explain everything about him.

[tribal belfry]

What and how

[coarse hinge]

Joke sarcasm

[reef grotto]

and, like, he said he's the greatest opponent of roger's, so ideally he should be higher than whitebeard, that's already a bunch of info on him

[tardy dock]

I thought your bounty becomes higher than those you defeat? Meaning Roger had the highest bounty for pirating in the end

[tribal belfry]

I wonder if someone powerful trained Kidd tho

During the time skip

[coarse hinge]

Magnetic blood control is potential. Only Luffy can against it since his internal organ Rubbery.

[reef grotto]

just no

[scenic thicket]

do u guys think oden is Tenguyama Hitetsu nd would he rllly abandon is daughter for 20 year. @coarse hinge no joke, i’m rewatching it nd i just felt something odd the way they mentioned he was extremely violent towards civilians just like xebec was

[tepid minnow]

Roger defeated Xebec, yeah it was with the help of Garp but they also had like Kaido, Big mom, shiki and whitebeard and who knows who else

[left field]

I think ur just a little too obsessed with bounties my dude, they couldn't have mentioned Xebec's bounty cause he was dead, and the WG must erase all void-century related evidence, so it makes sense that Xebec wasn't mentioned. Also Dragon wasn't mentioned cause at the time those bounties were mentioned Luffy wasn't even alive yet, meaning Dragon was much younger and not yet the world's greatest criminal

[tribal belfry]

I mean magnetism brings about a lot of ideas. He might be able to create electricity and make a chidori or smtn similar

[coarse hinge]

Wow. You ask me directly, thanks but I'm not & far for being an expert, but I think no.

[outer carbon]

shanks dad is rocks and bb is his cousin

im trolling

[scenic thicket]

oh the second half was 4 u tht was just a general question

[left field]

now that's a stretch lol

[iron lion]

Shank's is Charlos's cousin
but seriously it could be that he's Celestial in ancestry

[left field]

lmao

[coarse hinge]

Charlos sister is a thot too

[scenic thicket]

i think shanks will die tbh

[left field]

I wonder if he's the "Joyboy" of this generation

[outer carbon]

no but fr i think xebec is still alive and hes commanding bb behind the scenes. aizen type shi

[left field]

I remember Kaido telling Luffy he wasn't Joyboy and I found that highly interesting

[coarse hinge]

That dude so impatient and very hasty. Instead of enjoying

[scenic thicket]

actually wait bb probably inherited rocks will of d

[outer carbon]

also i think kizaru is one of the people in the cp0

[keen forge]

Magnetic fields can generate Electric fields and viceversa. Electromagnetic fields propagate as electromagnetic waves, which is basically light so by that logic Kid should be able to have the same abilities of Kizaru and viceversa. However, this is an anime and the science in it shall not necessarily hold so I don’t see kid manipulating electricity at all

[left field]

mans should just go to the general where shonentards spit at eachother, arguing about who would win in 1v1s or arguing about Nami or Robin

[scenic thicket]

also wht u guys think d refers too? i’m thinking either devil, dauntless, or dawn

[left field]

dawn could be possible

[outer carbon]

imagine final villian of wano is vegapunk. btu it wouldnt make sense

[left field]

lol it wouldn't, but vegapunk has to be in the story at some point

[outer carbon]

yea

[scenic thicket]

monkey devil luffy

[coarse hinge]

Most likely Vegapunk cures the smiles effect on Wano citizen

[outer carbon]

if he even appears

[scenic thicket]

why would he abandon the smiles if he could fix the bad effects of it?

[left field]

what if there are two families of D, one being dawn and one being devil. Cause the void century's ultimate weapons have the power to do two things: rule the world like a devil or bring about the dawn of a new world

Monkey Dawn Luffy, Marshall Devil Teach

[coarse hinge]

It's created by Caesar. The artificial DF made by him was that ated by Momo have no smile effect.

[scenic thicket]

he abandoned it bc of the bad effects caesar didn’t care nd continued the production

[outer carbon]

wasnt joyboy a giant

[scenic thicket]

momo got lucky

[coarse hinge]

One Purpose against WG but different Path. One is the savior and one is the destroyer.

[outer carbon]

momo gonna get his present body back and be oden 2.0

[hollow knoll]

Who?

[left field]

I mean, the creation of the WG was in fact the creation of a new world

[hollow knoll]

Luffy is joyboy is been confirmed in a while

[coarse hinge]

I think that's not about DF but another research.

[left field]

no

[coarse hinge]

Faction against the D clan

[scenic thicket]

why would he leave it in an abandoned lab then?

[hollow knoll]

https://youtu.be/_jzuDTcKIMI whitebeard said this “you’re not the man roger is waiting for” implying strongly that Luffy is indeed joyboy u can see in this video, as WB speaks, they’re showing Luffy

[coarse hinge]

Another reason that we don't know/forgot? But for sure Vegapunk artificial DF almost near perfect no fail/smile effect.

[left field]

Just watched it. You could very well be right, but remember Kaido telling Luffy he wasn't Joyboy?

also note that Kaido was once on Rocks D. Xebec's crew

[hollow knoll]

Yes ! I do remember, but that’s because kaido thinks Luffys is dead

[left field]

and the funny thing is that clip flawlessly foreshadowed Sabo being alive

[hollow knoll]

Kaido knows more about joyboy/one piece

Can’t wait see the xebecs flashback

[coarse hinge]

If y'all think did Kaido has been moved ahead than Roger Pirates? It's so strange ain't it?

[left field]

"I'm sure someone will appear to carry on Ace's will someday"
"Even if you extinguish his bloodline, there's no way that their flame will ever burn out"

[hollow knoll]

No, I think that Kaido at the time was way weaker than roger, he couldn’t face him so he laid low

[left field]

as soon as Sabo was revealed in Luffy;s backstory those very quotes I mentioned above foreshadowed him being alive and gaining the mera mera no mi

[hollow knoll]

Kaido couldn’t even beat Oden at the time

[coarse hinge]

I'm not says about strength but tactical moves. Like why he choose Wano as his base bcs he knows that place is world treasure.

[hollow knoll]

Yes, I think we about to get that answer very soon

[left field]

oh yes, very soon

[scenic thicket]

rodger inherited joy boys will thts why he got to the end but he couldn’t do anything abt it for whatever reason. luffy inherited rodgers & therefore joy boys

[errant nova]

I don’t think there are tangible wills being thrown around, it’s more of a metaphor for an innate longing for freedom

[left field]

I'm just wondering when we're gonna learn more about Zoro in Wano bc we still don't know much about him and his family

[fringe tide]

Was that an error in the translation when zeus tells nami to give him a new name an dshe says cotton, zeus then introduces himself as zeus repeatedly afterwards

[errant nova]

Nah a gag

[coarse hinge]

Previously I thought Kaido wanted to die just because he was bored or whim. But after so far we know it was foreshadowing & about the big war against the WG. Like he knows Doffy have much hate on WG & planned New Onigashima as Pirate base for unite against WG.

[left field]

definitely a gag, the moment I read that it looked like a total Oda moment

[scenic thicket]

nahhh i remember reading a theory abt how rodger told whitebeard and oden he wanted to throw the worlds biggest party and tht it’s also related to when luffy told ace and sabo his dream but got cut off

[hollow knoll]

By the end of the arc would be the best, if Luffy stays in wano bc you know... sabo is .... vivi is....

[hollow knoll]

Yea me too.. I think that’s what Luffy really wants and that’s where Noah cames to play the same boat that Luffy destroyed

[left field]

yeah, after wano One Piece is no longer gonna be "ight ima head here and get rid of this tyrant ruling it"

[coarse hinge]

It's weird ain't it? These first 2 member hasn't knowed their origin.

[scenic thicket]

the one piece is binks sake theyre gonna throw a project X after fucking up mariejois

[left field]

Zoro and Luffy still have the most ambiguous origins, and Nami too

[coarse hinge]

Even the MC himself Luffy still don't knowed his origin how. Who's his mom haha.

[left field]

big mom

[hollow knoll]

But hey, after this arc... Luffy will be already in the top 10 strongest characters

[left field]

idc much about that but hey good for him

[scenic thicket]

namis is there. I thought there was gonna b someone tht pushed kuina down those steps

[hollow knoll]

Even though I think it will feel a lil bit “rushed” for him to beat Kaido but it is what it is good for him

[scenic thicket]

luffys was w/ ace and sabo

[hollow knoll]

Still don’t know how big mom will be defeated

[left field]

I mean yes but that backstory still doesn't fully cover his origin

[scenic thicket]

she'll b convinced by Usopp bc he was clout w/ elbaf @hollow knoll

[coarse hinge]

Plot twist: Tashigi is Kuina who's lost memory or her longlive sibling/sister

[left field]

I believe Oda is uncovering secrets about the monster trio from weakest to strongest: Sanji's story in WCI, Zoro's in Wano, Luffy's in ???

[hollow knoll]

Yea I saw that theory, it would be awesome

[coarse hinge]

Until now we still don't know about Zoro yet.

[hollow knoll]

Luffy will be when he meets his father... I think we will meet his mom. Oda stated that she already appeared

[left field]

oh really?

[hollow knoll]

Can’t wait to see luffys mom tho bc Luffy looks more with garp than Dragon

[left field]

So iT's GotTa bE BiG mOm THeN

[hollow knoll]

Yes, In SBS

[coarse hinge]

I've been read about this. That Luffy Mom ain't beauty. Her personality similar to Garp.

[left field]

prolly Alvida lmfao

[coarse hinge]

Alvida is only 28 yo even younger than Robin

[left field]

but yeah that would make sense to reveal the rest of Luffy's backstory after he encounters Dragon

[coarse hinge]

Plot twist: Nami is Big Mom long lost daughter

[left field]

cause that's gonna happen after we learn more about Zoro, which fits with my belief about Oda revealing secrets about the monster trio from weakest to strongest

[hollow knoll]

Dragon is the most wanted man ... his bounty going to be crazy !

[left field]

the funny thing is, Luffy won't be the king of the pirates once he finds One Piece cause finding (creating) One Piece is going to end the Great Pirate Era

[coarse hinge]

What if Luffy's Mom is Celestial Dragon who's rebel them & Garp acquaintance so he ship her with his son 😲

[left field]

I highly doubt it's Makino

[coarse hinge]

She's not.

[left field]

and it's definitely not Dadan either

[coarse hinge]

None of them who in Fosha Village.

[left field]

not Portgas D. Rouge either

[coarse hinge]

The definite answer is just wait.

[left field]

yep

[keen forge]

Nah guys, we all know croco is luffy’s mom

[left field]

lol

[coarse hinge]

Oh no just stop.

[left field]

Assuming One Piece is the unison of the Seas, I think it would be cool if Sanji opened up a restaurant called the All Blue

[coarse hinge]

Sanji want to find All Blue just let Jinbe naked he will see it.

[left field]

lmfao

but the Straw Hats are gonna depart at some point, so they're all gonna be up to their own thing in the future, what do u guys think they'll be doing

[coarse hinge]

I think it'll be skipped not after the Final Wars but their old times.

[left field]

I really hope Robin opens up a Library with books about the void century and her adventures

it would essentially mean the recovery of Ohara, which would perfectly resolve her character plotline

And assuming OP is the unison of the seas Sanji opening up a restaurant called the All Blue would also be an ideal way of finishing his character

or maybe he'll go back to Baratie

Here's a serious question: What is Uranus, and where is it?

[coarse hinge]

Most likely Sky Weapon either Dragon or Wind/Weather DF or what. We don't know.

[left field]

So the 3 ultimate weapons are based on Land, Sea and Sky?

Pluton = Land
Poseidon = Sea
Uranus = Sky

[coarse hinge]

[scenic thicket]

nah plutons got to be a ship tht sails underground

[coarse hinge]

Also

[queen wind]

Pluton is a ship though
How is it land

[teal bay]

There is this old legend in Japan were a group of koi/carp fishes were trying to swim up stream on a waterfall few dropped the idea, few failed and only one was able to swim up the waterfall and God was happy about it and turned that fish in dragon for its hardwork...

[shadow jewel]

Momo is Uranus, a theory I'll always strongly believe in until shown otherwise

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I also think he can be Joyboy and feel like simply not enough info yet

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I don't believe he's Joyboy, it'd make no sense

Wano's borders were waiting to be opened for the return of joyboy. Momo has been in Wano for awhile now

As generic as it sounds, I believe Joyboy is Luffy. It just makes the most sense

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kaido? its a japanese legend

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I don't personally believe this, but it is possible that Joyboy was sent into the future by Toki. She was searching for someone/something, stated by Oden. And his random return to be in Wano, could potentially make sense if he was sent into the future, in Wano

Toki's bloodline, Amatsuki, is from Wano during the void century

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It's pretty confirmed the return of Joyboy is in a new character. 99% Luffy

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I could see the weakling who wants to match his dad etc or Joyboy power isn’t physical, tons of possibilities

But you’re right it sounds clear Joyboy reaches Wano. However, Momo also reaches Wano from a far away land lol

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Wano has been closed since the void century, I cant see Momo being Joyboy

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It’s more of a stretch but technically true he was gone 20 years and came back

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Because this was said while Momo was in wano

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Also Momo was born when the Sea Kings said the other one would be born in a distant sea. That isn't for sure them talking about Joyboy, but it's pretty likely

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I think they were talking about Uranus and Poseidon, personally

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Maybe

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And then there was a separate prophecy of joyboy returning

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Uranus and Joyboy have similarly tiny levels of definitions right now

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In which case your theory of Momo being Uranus also falls apart

Since Momo was already alive, and not born in a distant sea

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Oof, I guess

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I mean, Momo still could be Uranus. It's just way more likely they meant the birth of Joyboy

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I just like the idea of Momo starting as what appears to be a hollow shadow of his father's legacy. Then he is mentored by the pirate king to become even stronger than Oden

I don't think Momo ends up as permanently weakling, I think he becomes buff eventually

And it seems like all we know is as vague as something like Joyboy will change the world at roughly this time, we just know so little it is hard to even pin down what I would think the nature of Joyboy's contributions are

The only real "hint"we have is shirahoshi controlling seakings and momo controlling Zenusha. Maybe controlling big land creatures is a Joyboy thing. Maybe its a Uranus thing. Maybe the big land creatures have been waiting for Joyboy's voice and that's what Momo has. Its all a bunch of question marks

JoyBoy could even be 2 people, Joy and Boy, I wonder if we at least know Joyboy can't be a duo

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I agree in general. I would not be shocked if it's not Luffy, and Joyboy's role is completely different than what we assumed. That said the evidence is there for Luffy

One of the few concrete things we know about Joyboy however is that he wanted to take the fishmen to the surface, and had failed to uphold that promise. Since Luffy sort of rekindled that promise with Shirahoshi, it just has pointed very much in Luffy's direction.

The other thing is the connection between Wano, Joyboy, and the Dawn of the world. Since Pedro felt certain aiding Luffy would be the best way to reach his dream of that dawn, it's another indicator. Granted, how much would Pedro really know about centuries old prophecies, but still

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Yeah, I'd say evidence points more to Luffy at this point. Part of me has wondered if some sort of joyboy thing is why Momo could hear Luffy, perhaps Joyboy's will is in some way related to ancient huge animals like Zunesha. Perhaps Joyboy was a huge animal and that's why Momo can hear Luffy. ?_? One of my major questions is what happened such that Joyboy couldn't finish it, complete his goal. Why 800 years? (I hereby shill my planetary alignment theory here again), I'm curious why later, how they know, and what went wrong before

I've tried to think of the perspective of what may have gone wrong and what would be new now to tease out evidence of who might be joyboy

Oh I just had a thought of Joyboy being a giant ancient monkey. That would be awesome

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Personally, I think this just happens to be the time when Luffy was born and everything works out. Instead of thinking of it from the perspective of "something went wrong, the conditions to fix it won't happen again for 800 years" it's perhaps just that someone like Sharley was able to look far enough ahead to when someone else like Joyboy would be born. And that's how the prophecy started

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Yeah, I can buy that. I wonder if there are any old stories about a monkey riding an elephant. Hmm lol. Maybe I'm getting too far down a rabit hole lol

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Joy Boy and his Joy Crew yohoho

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Well kin and all of the scabbards are also betting on Luffy

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Is Kin also hoping specifically for the dawn? I think it's something Momo may have said since reading the journal, but I only specifically remember Pedro talking about it

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when they jumped kaido

He said luffy will be the one to bring the dawn to kaido im pretty sure

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Luffy is quite op

I thought zoro will be the main char in this arc

With the new sword

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he is the sword

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Zoro should be the one to beat kaido i meant being a samurai/ swordsman himself

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Itd be cool, but Luffy is having Kaidos head

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Yea lol

Oda should give other characters lead sometimes, instead always making luffy the op lead lol

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What could still happen is zoro giving Kaido one more scar to KaidoDragonForm in front of the people of Wano, kind of similar to the Shisui dude

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Luffy could be doing something more important and zorro could have kaido's head

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he is THE mc

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Yea, like naruto mc can share the limelight sometimes

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i know its a shitty argument but thats how this anime works

Theres always match ups

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Oda believes in monolithic mc

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probably zoro slays king

who is a dragon dragon fruit eater

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Idk

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Most likely after chopper and Marco heal him

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Kaido and momo are dragons

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Kaido is a fish

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What ...

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King and Queen are Dragon Dragon Fruit Ancient Type

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Kaido is bot European but chinese style dragon

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Its been stated in the manga(?

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Not fish...

[storm junco]

hes got the fish fish model azure dragon

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There you go

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I thought in this arc zoro past will be revealed like sanji in last arc

And he got major role

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still could happen

he got the girl tho

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Zoro the llst king.. of wano

Girl?

What girl?

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Hiyori

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He got her? Like married?

Or sword

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Noooo, i mean like its a possible ship/couple/etc

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Nah

Zoro deserve this arc like sanji got the fame on last one lol

Its been more than a year i been waiting

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But Sanji did virtually nothing in his arc, at least Zoro is getting his moments in Wano

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For fans atleast oda can bring luffy 5000 crew made earlier lol

Alot of potential entertainment resources has been ignored

This is the final great war before final arc

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wdym? that grand fleet is most likely for the final battle

And before that we are probably gonna get Elbaf

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In final war great fleet would be greater with nee alliance lol

Final war would be like avenger assembled screne, great fleet, revolutionary army, sanji family, new allies, navy, etc lol against world govt+ Blackbeard

Something like that

World government took control over all 3 ancient weapons blah blah

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Or mqybe he just doesnt wanna throw the power dynamic snd tier he mafe up out of the window by letting 99% dead zoro kill kaido

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Coby/Koby is going to be really strong when he shows off against Hancock. He's going to be a very formidable enemy to luffy. No Bs about how some one mentions luffy and they go being super nice to each other (KobyvsHancock)

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Here's something everyone will probs agree with.
We've seen Robin create giant feet and stomp people with it. We've seen her make clones of herself using her fruit.
Now we've got her fighting black maria, who happens to be massive.
She's gonna make a giant robin to fight her.

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Yes

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I think chapter 1018 is the last chapter of the act 3

Which might end in tragedy

Yamato might join the straw hat due to her conversation with Kaido in the latest chapter.

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It's either bait or he's shoo-in for the next straw hat. Meanwhile Carrot continues to fade into irrelevance

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I think Yamato isn’t stronger than Zoro, Sanji or Luffy because when she was in shackles, she couldn’t get them off due to haki?

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Maybe Yamato cant do emission. But we'll see how he stacks up once we see get a bit of his fight with Kaido. No doubt Luffy is stronger, but that fight should give an idea to compare with Zoro

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Nami with Zeus definitely put her one of the top commanders in the crew because she has the piece of a Yonko’s power. What I am worried is that Zeus said, himself, that he can’t leave without Mama’s powers.

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He cant exit the climatact that means. So she's stuck with him

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I meant is that definitely not stronger than Sanji/zoro/luffy/jinbei but high enough to defend herself/take down an enemy

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Ye, I know but Zeus said “But I can’t leave without Mama’s powers”, which in this case, we have little hints about that.

I definitely want Zeus to be with Nami, but I think there’s going to be some twists regarding that.

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He says this in response to Nami acting upset about him doing it on his own. Basically he's saying there's nothing he can do about it now

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I know but I was referring to his quote

His quote is kind of vague to what’s going to happen to him in term of character-wise

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That's all his quote means. If Nami wants him gone, only Big Mom can do something about it