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kuzan is way faster and can insta freeze ragnir
he low diffs ragnir lmao
there's NOTHING that ragnir is gonna be doing to kuzan
kuzan is waaay faster and he'll instantly freeze ragnir the moment their fight starts
ppl forget kuzan literally tp'd to the middle of marineford in a second
Sure
Why do some people think Brook was stronger alive when we know he wasn’t as strong during his time as first mate and caption of his former crew? A living older Brook had a 33 million bounty as a captain and couldn’t survive the New World
Theres no possibility he’s stronger
the king is already out. he's Brook's bro
or leader
maybe Shuri is just a key for something
remember the family has enemies
If we apply the same inflation for brook's bounty that was applied to dorry and brogy then brook had abounty of 400-500 mil
again everyone knows you're the only one who larps this agenda
blackred give up bro you're making yourself look like one of buggy's subordinates
delusional ✌️😂
1183 alr in mangafire btw
be glad im on pc and not mobile because I'm gonna be the next clayoreus
you got nothing to prove my take wrong and just call me a larper
kuzan is 100 times faster and he'll instantly freeze ragnir, that's it, the fight is over
I'm still shocked you're still on this
He failed to survive in a weaker New World and today’s rookies with over 100 or 200 million at Sabaody did fine entering the New World despite most not joining a Yonko’s crew
Most rookies don’t even have over 100 million entering the NW
Gecko Moria had a bounty of 320 million and has a better feat of losing to Kaido.
- ragnir is way faster in both hammer or squirrel forms; number one it took loki with observation to sense and dodge ragnir flying at him immediately within the devil fruit chest room. the sheer speed ragnir possesses as a giant object also should be noted bum
- because of ragnir's giant size, unless kuzan can flash-freeze people, he's not flash-freezing ragnir and even if he did, ragnir could just hop up from squirrel form and use his hammer form to break through the ice easily
- disproven yesterday btw ragna-ice is stronger than kuzan's ice. kuzan cannot freeze his ice over ragnir's and melt it or unthaw it, it's literally impossible so don't try and pull up that larp of a statement again
- The minute their fight starts, Kuzan would probably go for that move and Ragnir would stomp him in hammer form. lets be fr here unless kuzan gets a stat boost for an admiral, which should be noted he's already renown and strong for, he is not beating ragnir unless its a extremely high diff because dear god ragnir would stomp kuzan✌️😂 As a giant squirrel and hammer, ragnir probably possesses better stats in stamina, speed, and overall strength because of his giant size while kuzan, for a human with already good stats, probably doesn't have the brute that ragnir has
- larp larp larp ludge lragon loro lanji lahur kuzan is not 100 times faster, statement hasn't been said by any of the cast or side characters, and uhhhhh
yeah Larp your heart away with your larping agenda.
ragnir prolly dont even got haki and even then kuzan's ice would fail to freeze ragnir over
holy peak
be for real and say proudly that kuzan would freeze ragnir, an 800 year old weapon and a hammer, over CURRENTLY vs eos
i cant lie i can see kuzan trying to beat ragnir
But even then its a no-shot
ragnir is yonkolevel
ragnir is above yonko level
only difficult fights he'd prolly have are loki and imu and maybe void century-level chars
but otherwise 90% of the cast is getting killed😂
oda had to make a sentient squirrel hammer the one-shotter of the series of all things
okay new theory i saw on twitter
from @/Lixogram
Notice Esperia Kingdom (just like Alabasta and other places associated with Joyboy) is also elevated...
They knew about the flood...?! 🤔
#ONEPIECE
#ONEPIECE1183
check if we see their flag in the upcoming chapters
idk where to type this question out but i just figured here was fine. does anyone have an explanation to brooks pretimeskip powerscaling? bcoz where was this backstory brook in thriller bark?
also if i missed out on something reading wise please let me know
Yo like 12 hours later I’m still seeing Kuzan vs Ragnir 😭😭
Didn’t expect the matchup to be honest
Back in Thriller Bark we only knew Brook from the Rumbar Pirates, this is even before that
maz Do ye believe in kuzan vs ragnir
Dudes had a long life after all, a second one at that
this is akainu vs kuzan in a nutshell 🐿️
To be honest with ya I just don’t really care about it in a minute 😭😭😭😭
except kuzan is kuzan and ragnir is akainu
Like it’s all hypotheticals really
wise words from Maz
Not much can be backed for Ragnir because well we haven’t seen much of Ragnir in the first place
I’d be surprised if a legendary squirrel isn’t fast tho
yeah i know but the new chapter makes brook seem so op, idk if im overreacting but i feel like he should’ve been more powerful in thriller bark
Chapter is out https://mangamoins.com/scan/OP1183
So, how long will this flashback be
it’s approx half the chapter
Well he got muscles backthen 
tbh bro looks as skinny as he is rn 😭😭
Oh, I read the chapter already, I'm asking for any guesses of how many chapters will this flashback be
real but realistically who has better feats rn the hammer that damaged imu from afar or the huge freezing of two tsunamis into ice at marineford
I hear it, but in the end of it, it really was just the Notch Slash we saw. It’s not much different to now if you think about the grand scheme of it cause he’s always done that move. Also since he’s fast as hell there, it’s only right to assume he’s faster now since he doesn’t have flesh holding him back
we gotta put it into Perspective™
- yeah and that speed is still DOGSHIT, kuzan tpd to the middle of marineford in a second, and is way smaller than ragnir which means hes also a harder target for ragnir to freeze. ragnir was fighting loki whos bigger than him, kuzan is a MUCH smaller target here and has already shown a crazy speed feat that should be able to tell you he can easily dodge ragnirs ice attack
- yes, kuzan would flash freeze ragnir and the moment ragnir changes from his hammer form to the squirrel one, kuzan will completely freeze the squirrel too lmao
- it don't matter if ragnirs ice is harder than kuzan's ice, they're both ice and ragnirs speed isn't enough to catch and freeze kuzan, there's no chance thats seriously happening ragnir don't got enough speed feats to put his speed on par with kuzan and i explained in point 1 that kuzan is also a much smaller target compared to loki who he had relative speed to
- what part of this debate are you not getting? I'm not saying kuzan scales above ragnir, kuzan is simply way faster and he WILL instantly freeze ragnir in either of his forms, it's an ass matchup for ragnir and you're making all assumptions about him having better stats lmfao
all your shit is headcannon about his stats, speed, haki and everything, all this is based off of "uhm, he's an 800 year old squirrel 🤓" that don't mean shit dawg
Whoever Dozan is, he better be not a fucking bum bro, I'm tired of useless new characters being added since Wano
yeah i hear where you are coming from but shouldn’t that mean he should’ve been more** op in thriller bark
take the L, ragnir is never beating kuzan
he does not have any feats to actually beat kuzan in a one on one matchup
Ragnir and Kuzan are both under prime Garp
squirrel 🔽
chipmunk typing
It’s like saying the weapon that destroyed Lulusia is above Kuzan
chipmunk making an essay ⬇️
We’ve never seen Kuzan destroy or freeze a whole island
y'all don't understand that kuzan is a bad matchup for ragnir
I'm not saying kuzan scales above ragnir, but ragnir would lose because of a bad matchup
if its bs imma clown him he js give up on ragnir larp
hey wait let chipmunk cook sum bs or he is finished
who started this bru 😭
It's like EOS sanji vs boa, EOS sanji scales way above but he gets matchup diffed hard cuz he would instantly get petrified
You got a point, it could be a mental block though for all I know to be honest
fujitora>boa
cuz fujitora cant see
yeah i feel like it isn’t an oversight and maybe has smth to do with what happened at esperia
Kuzan being simila to Douzan is a just coincidence, right? right?
Momonga was able to not get petrified, Sanji might let himself get petrified though
hey why are pretending like ragnir is a indiviual character its a WEAPON it needs a weilder to be used
sanji would probably get petrified on spot lol
Idk Dozan is similar to Doflamingo
any man would
😭😭
bro whoever ragebaited this 🐿️ into typing an essay 😂😂
dozan is
doflamingo-zoro-sanji
a love triangle
lol
its him js writing 1 line
just to say. Squeak!
lemme wait
… 🐿️ is typing…
do u guys like the chap? excellent, good, normal, mid?
excellent bcoz we finally got more of brooks backstory sad bcoz this was supposed to be usopps arc and if anything usopp has done nothing but ragebait imu
@🐿️ |💀 DOOM| 💀 8:00 AM
squeak squeak!
preach
if this isnt usopps power up arc in some way or another id be a little disappointed
larp your heart away blackred! realistically even though ragnir doesn't have any CURRENTLY feats That's an 800 year old ice squirrel possessing an 800 year old hammer who's been stuck in a room farming aura. letsa see whossa gonna win!! Wahoo!! Mario!!®
- Kuzan teleporting to the middle of Marineford was only for plot purposes to show his arrival to freeze over the tsunami, shit and even then THAT wasnt a flashfreeze, it took him genuine time to freeze over a tsunami that's as big as ragnir... just like he'll do to RAGNIRRR!!! >larp Ragnir's ice can be fired off in misty beams which vs Kuzan needing to be in direct physical contact to freeze his targets. he needed props to fire off ice ball properly on garp and needed to use his hands to freeze over robin with ice-time it does not get better than this. even if kuzan somehow had the sheer strength to freeze over ragnir this quick, again, ragnir would tank it out cause he's a hammer
- kuzan can flash-freeze... ragnir can flash freeze on a larger scale 😭. you made me remember that with loki, who's the size of an ancient giant, that ragnir managed to freeze a mountain/island-sized draugur into a massive block of ice that's probably eons bigger than marineford and you STILL got the gaul to say "Oh, yeah. Kuzan can flashfreeze something that big" when it'll take time, just like how it took time to freeze over the tsunami because of its size.
- Other than speed in this scenario, lemme js note that Ragnir's strength easily broke apart the devil fruit treasure chest room which is made outta ??? material and if imu never stopped ragnir from hitting him, that blow would've been DededeSTRUCTIVE!!™
- if you're not saying kuzan scales above ragnir, what's the point of your debate even about? js stop glazing a statement that everyone knows is true.... that ragnir one-shots kuzan! in speed! in ice! in everything😭 its simply put that Kuzan is notorious for his strength as a former admiral but even then he's not beating ragnir
hey ragebaiting imu is sum
joyboy lvl feat
being more complex than the poneygliphs themselves
id be very disappointed lol they’ve hyped ts since before i was born 😭😭
😭😭😂

this debate is stupid Icl
deadass.
Ragnir > Kuzan in scaling but still if its a matchup ragnir would still win
i don’t even think he’s here lol
did he leave
bro you took 10 business days to type allothat out
I'm reading this headcannon bs
i gotta be the next clayoreus i cant let my goat get slandered in a debate of 0 feats
bro really cooked
it’s okay ragnir MAYBE beats kuzan
remembering the feat of ragnir freezing an entire mountain-sized enemy
What does kuzan have against that
na na Tell me a better feat with kuzan's ice than that
Tell me another time kuzan was so fast another enemy needed obv to dodge that shii
punk hazard? but idk this isn’t my argument
i'll adddress everything altogether
You cant find this stuff because kuzan hasnt performed better feats than this😭
he eats Kuzan 
did harald ever try and fight ragnir i dont remember
the debate is one-sided only because ragnir doesn't have any legendary feats rn but kuzan doesn't either
ragnir nibbles on Kuzan like how you eat ice chips
loki used ragnir to one-shot hk harald and damage imu from afar
thank ye Amelius. i know yer the goat
this is blackreds argument not mine
i dont remember how hard the ragnir fight was for loki
i can’t argue with powerscalers
ragnir agenda over most minus Robin, kuma and BB
he was able to get up after the fight and fight harald so it couldnt have been too hard
i said the same shit NEVER PRAISED ME
loki needed a large sum of acoc to defeat ragnir
even then ragnir coulda kept going
nah i remember ragnir was fucked up on the floor with spinning eyes
like i respect you genuinely blackred for the debate but hypothetically Kuzan's not surviving this even with the gear 2-speed you headcanon and the flash-freezing
Bro was dazed from that shit for like 2 seconds do not get it confused
Who are you again..??
the one who owned you
nvm bro ragnir isnt taking an admiral
ive never speedtyped so fast in my life
sigma male
he one-shot a hk and managed to make imu feel pain
Don't larp, easty. be a bart.
commoner's haki
definitely did not one shot a holy knight. But ragnir is very strong and you can easily interpret ragnir to be admiral level unfortunately
why is jinbei talking about killing gunko like he doesnt know what story hes in
larperors haki
also Kuzan ain't even a admiral no more 
im not debating laww Im gonna get eaten up i fear him
does it affect strenght?
why admiral fan boys getting threatened by Kuzan mention
there's three powerscalers you never mess with
Laww
Easiero
and uhhhhhhhhhh Third guy
yes and no depends on who you ask
do you think ragnir would lose to kuzan in a 1v1, no help from loki
me
you aint gonna name me ik
who are you..?
you forgot my name
isnt your name
Chud?
see i am the third guy
and now blind too?
I do not know. Strength of ragnir is kinda unclear. I'd say yes though , even though Ragnir's ice is probably more potent than aokiji's
its not possible for ragnir to have haki right
yeah thats his name
ragnir can have haki its living
he's a living organism so yes he can
sybau wall
but it probably doesnt have haki
koya setnickname @rich panther to chud
he gets fucked up by kuzan
go drink kizaru piss
kung fu-dugong can teach ragnir haki
ai btw
exactly what I've been saying for a whole day in this chat
back up your logic easty you're going nowhere
100% real btw
yeah you're letting it take over your brain
all you've been talking about is how kuzan one-shots ragnir and nothing else
i'll respond to your msg later dw
and nobody agrees😭
I'll type an entire doc if i need to trust me
kuzan does not one shot ragnir wtf
one shot is a stretch
neither is one shotting the other
even imu cannot do it 
flash-freeze in his case = one-shot
ragnir's ice is more potent but aokiji winning
only part of it he's been dogging on
loki vs ragnir wasnt like a super high diff fight or anything
i thought you meant like high-extreme diff
it took acoc to the noggin to beat ragnir somehow
i really dont think kuzan is getting dogged by loki that badly
not one shot lol
is that not a better feat than most fights
(without ragnir or the fruit)
I mean dont you think aokiji can tank an acoc attack too
who needed to glaze acoc at age 16 to beat a magic floating hammer in loki's case
i mean he can but has it been seen that he has
nvm blue hole exists
kuzan is like neck a neck strength with akainu pretty much who was taking earthquake attacks
him fighting akainu for 10 days is a bigger feat than surviving an acoc attack lol
yes he did against garp
he is definitely durable
for sure
you sleeping on kuzan
I just think if you just go about it narratively Kuzan has to be stronger than Ragnir knowing his role and Ragnir is really a weapon at its strongest WITH Loki you know
the only thing i do is sleep like kuzan i dont sleep on him
Like this is beyond feats
yea kuzan has better haki and far better feats ragnir just has more durable ice
squirrel v drakes new album
exactly what I've been saying, this guy doesn't get it he's extremely biased
im not biased i just know the facts about ragnir and you know the facts about kuzan
its a tied debate
and that you keep mentioning the same feats about kuzan over and over again
warping to the middle of marineford and flash-freezing so-and-so
switch it up twinnnnn Shhhhhhhh
yeah because he only needs a few feats to put him over in this fight
blackred do ye think enel beats loki
as much as i love glazing enel, this is literally the equivalent of swatting a fly
loki beats enel limbless and without five senses neg diff
when is official release
lOLLLL
sunday
no this has no correlation
trust me Enel got it
ragnir and kuzan are ice users
loki and enel are lightning users
freezing and lightning is different
Enel got it cause he’s an aura farmer bro trust me
both are elementals
What doesnt make sense😭
The best self glazer OAT
guys let’s just call oda and see what he says
look up the rat fink and tell me what he says
you do the honours bro
the fight is not just about whos element is stronger
genius ill ask in an sbs and see what haappens
enel going neg diff with pretimeskip pre gears pre haki luffy
fr bro this guy has been saying ragnirs ice is stronger so ragnir wins for hours
nooo you need to ask him if they wear panties in esperia to get in
you started 3 days ago i started a day ago
then two part it with ur question
i started a day ago too lmao
you've been dragging this on and on with other people i haven't
3 days ago according to searchbar
Do not larp infront of the larping scouter
i scout out larp in the wilds of r/onepiece
yeah i called him and he said that yes queen candel does in fact not wear a bra
i started this 23 hrs ago
i think i said kuzan would beat ragnir in the manga chat once but i wasn't debating it
it has finally ended
get ragnir past sabo
i'll start it again later
The "don't stay in elbaph for too long" warning was a warning to the fact that the longer you stay here the more flashbacks happen
you NEED to debate something else
matter of fact get him past sanji
pleaase bruh you're gonna aget the mods to kill you
what is powerscaling not allowed
Vegeta pfp
-dude with dbz pfp
it’s usually doflamingo
cant make ts up
bad timing
you need to focus on anyting but this debate before they hunt you down
same dudes who think they are geniuses for not engaging in powerscaling
don’t target me 😭😭 go back to ragnir v aokiji
Fave game probably has either a gun or a ball
why would they hunt me down lol ragnir vs kuzan is fun to debate
ahh you dont understand my refined palate you bakas you see powerscaling is too simple minded for me i only care about the themes and narrative
and shanks vs mihawk debates been going for years nothing happened to them
I'm your only rival in this btw😭
mihawk>>
😭😭😭😭😭😭✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️
I've argued this with 10 ppl atleast in the past day
yeah obv
nope im your only big rival
Powerscaling is junk food themes and such discussion is the broccoli
is he Crazy?
you got good takes son
but I'm saying people debating shanks vs mihawk don't get muted or banned
mihawk
mihawk genuinely mops the floor with shanks
Shanks
Will Ragnir be a normal brown squirrel or some odd color?
he'd make shanks' hair turn blue
im unsure about this one
Oda prolly gonna make him blue or some shii😭 look at the color of his hammerhead in the manga
mihawk would win but it's extreme diff
squirrel is larping
anything for agenda
shanks>loki
Shanks using unnamed sword I got from Walmart #2787
cerberus is a sword that summons a cerberus
its name is gryphon
foreshadowing gryphon is a sword that summons a [blank]
Shit still aint a supreme grade sword though✌️😂
loki kinda made powerscaling alot harder
introduction of loki and ragnir killed one piece scaling
Oda when he reveals Shanks’ sword as a Mythical Zoan just like his brothers only cause he had a bit to drink before making the chapter
Shanks is gonna be like Zoro lend me your sword
watch garling's saber also be a weapon with a transformation
he killed harald who seemed to be on par with guys like rocks, but he got beaten by shanks who is inferior to mihawk
garling's saber: chimera. source: trust in garling
ODAS BORED
last 5 words ruined the statement
but then hes also been fighting imu for the past few chapters so is imu way weaker than we thought or nah
How is shanks even gonna sharpen his sword Fr that shi probably dull asf
you always pour the drink to your superiors
vegapunk genuinely one-shots in this category
i mean theres probably not much of a gap
therefore mihawk ****no diffs
that boy vegapunk's head was gigantic and yet he still had the best posture prior to having it chopped off
yh
but luffy might beat loki
i am not sure
ig
It's similar to Ragnir, mythical zoan weapon.
ragnir larps as ragnir
north switched up he became a squirrel
this is my son.
Shamrock seems like an inferior Loki
luffy also makes powerscaling so weird bro
how do u feel ab sanji vs zoro
Nidhogg powers + ratatoskr hammer > Cerberus sword
This random ass chipmunk character confuses me (I have only been reading spoilers for the past year)
for me they are equal
for agenda sanji
feels like oda clearly tries to display luffy as on par with the other yonko but he feels so much weaker because of his stamina
Next time Loki is gonna wipe the floor with Shamrock
same but agenda zoro 😢
He better pray for an Omen buff
yea luffy still admiral level I fear
shamrock would give loki a good fight i’d assume
they said shanks could be on par with shamrock in the flashback
Valorant ptsd
who do you think is the strongest character luffy might beat?
Luffy akainu pinkie toe tier
ig yh
Ngl Shanks probably stopped Loki from killing his brother because he knew Shamrock is under Imu's influence and wants to find a way to save him
blackbeard in the future
rn
currently? the strongest person i believe luffy is beating is kizaru
theres other people strronger who he could maybe beat, but I'd have him losing to
he might beat loki
onscreen fighter vs offscreen fighter
If loki's feats are to be taken seriously hes not beating loki
Based on his egghead performance it's a 50/50 between them lol.
Kizaru on Adderall no diffs luffy
kizaru was mentally nerfed at egghead if he didnt have the idea of killing vegapunk on his mind and it was smth else entirely different
Fax
Luffy would have gone places😭
cuz loki major attack we have seen is lightning and luffy is rubber so
Yeah Luffy can't beat him as of yet
well thats a matchup thing. At best it means luffy wins but loki sis tronger. But even then when ragnir exists, luffy should lose anyway
Imagine manosphere kizaru
but animator of luffy vs kizaru (friends with ODA) said that luffy wasnt serious and was stalling
luffy getting put in an ice block
so we trust animators now
if you want screenshot i can send
do animators talk to the mangakas?
anythign for agenda
Its definitely being portrayed that luffy and loki are at a similar level
yes he had dinners with oda
Lightning hammer infused with CoC probably works on Luffy tho, just of the fact that haki does work on df's.
Stall hat pirates
first mistake of sea jimbei
usopp better do something this arc tho or im actually going to be mad
what possible reason would he be stalling for
acoc😂
Love of the game
Yeah Loki might cook Luffy
easty. be easiero! defend luffy!
did you skip egghead or what?
Guys Luffy is just stalling so that we can backstory farm and also have dragon show up
tell me why luffy would stall against kizaru im curious
with this treausre i summon paragraph merchant @grave lion
Dragon still waiting on his Uber pickup trust
I agree that's what Oda tries to portray, but his feats and stamina issues could pose a huge problem for his fights against some of the strongest characters which leads him to losing without some interference
and also NONE in luffy vs kizaru was serious
i still think luffy won the kizaru interaction but i dont think he was stalling at all
He def didn't win
none were serious
it was a draw
why though why wouldng he be serious
He didn't win is all that matters
bruvski what the actual fuck?
Bro was flirting with kizaru
it wasnt a draw luffy knocked him down, turned him into pizza, ragdolled him across the map
he slept on kizaru's lap
one acoc punch and kizaru was on the floor
Took him out to eat
luffy just ran out of stamina kizaru didnt even land a single hit
i can easily tell the diff bw
kaido vs luffy and luffy vs saturn and gorosei
bro really skipped EGGHEAD
framing it this way takes out the context that luffy couldnt hit him until then and once he hits him, luffy drops to being immobile
and kizaru gets up first TO HELP LUFFY
narrative
its not like kizaru did anything to damage luffy though
jrunning out of stamina is a genuine form of losing a fight. so if this happens at the same time as kixaru getting knocked down, its a tie
for vegapunk-kuma/bonney-kizaru setup
he doesnt have to. if you cant fight because you have no stamina you still are defeated
we’re giving kizaru a very bullshit w here
what is the bullshit
i dont think luffy and kizaru both serious
kizaru is getting the dub
its a tie, luffy losing due to stamina is still losing
but i can also say one thing
he literally didnt even do anything our guy just ran out, and he was already in gear 5 before the fight started
yes and running out of stamina counts as you being done
Luffy was stalling so that his gear 5 could run out and he could die
you still havent told me how luffy wasnt serious
loki and luffy fight 10 times
the winner will each be 5-6/10
He never knocked him.out, that's headcanon. This is a knock out:
you jusg keep saying bruh what the fuck did you skip egghead
weaker members of crew: what?
i am not clicking this
I hope you meant luffy here
😢
ip grabber
oops
bro? i said each will be 5-6/10
This powerscaling shi get serious
very serious
you said loki and kizaru
I am saying I hope you meant luffy
Don't blame me for this shitty server not allowing to post images here, blame the garbage rules
it drove blackred insane
oh i also meant loki and luffy

@whole orchid the diss is insane
nice ragnir pfp… who do you think wins kuzan or ragnir?
see LOOK AT EM THE BLACKRED IS SPREADING
kuzan is faster and can freeze his opponents
bro just dox himself
“the blackred” 😭😭
ok
the black(red) plague
Purpose: we're all gonna be talking about kuzan vs ragnir and how ragnir/kuzan win/lose
zoro is 2% strong after training for all day,being author and toei fav against a cook on the ship who DONT even train and js smokes,simp and cooks
No he got those earned genetics
still stronger
Sanji is working those genes out
germa genes
this is a quite zoro diss
and zoro got "ACOC" "enma" "toei dihh" "wado ichimonji"
vinsmoke judge effect
no sandai kitetsu mention? it helps him with his direction!
bro js spam vinsmoke judge name and think he is funny
nah fuck that sword
@ thighbreaker He's slandering Judge
i dont like it anyways
I guess that equals it out
zoro=sanji confirmed
If sanji had all of zoros batman gear he'd kill Imu trust
same but if zoro had all the germa 66 shit
zoro is from ryuma's clan trained by mihawk
I guess we all have our quirks...
kuzan wins let's argue
Some may have earned them more than others
NOOOOOOOOO
@topaz pecan bro the diss is insane
okay. kuzan beats ragnir with the help from the bb pirates and a buster call
otherwise ragnir wins
kuzan solos
the difference between both is not THAT much
lets move on to another matchup
How many kindergartners do you think usopp could fight before he gets overwhelmed
kuzan vs old garp who do y'all think wins
no usopp slander allowed
kizaru vs arlong
kuzan extdiff
thank you bruh you're not selling for once
0
Usopp vs 1000 kindrgarteners who win
"Oh yeah im still gonna say it a bit later"
Maybe if we're talking his mom yeah
lets do a more serious debate
1000 kindrgartener
Who wins oven (akainu without logia) or akainu (oven without paramecia)
I think he could take on atleast a 1000 of y'all
no kindergarteners because usopp solos the whole op verse
no one wants to argue this random shit 😭
USOPP... NOISE!!
does he get to use his sling shot?
If you think about it akainu is just easy bake oven
where is usopp in his own arc 😢
gae
Yeah
He's also on a mountain
Or a hill rather
yup he loses
yo
Gave him an advantage and he still lost 😭
watashi wa kita
Zoro vs 1000 kindergartners be like (insert gif of someone using scythe on grass)
yokoso watashi larp society-wa
Usopp vs 1000 kindergartners be like (insert bloons td super monkey gif)
ig at usopp pwak he can give a good fight
Yeah until he fights Liam (fastest kid in class)
Speed blitzed
idk how you could think otherwise
look at how imu is putting both of them on a pedestal
another guy gonna be dropping essays now 😭
he's a vet
the big fight is gonna be loki and luffy vs imu its not like oda’s gonna have his mc just get carried lol
Trvke incoming
Loadestar will be usopps arc bro trust 🙏
we should make a powerscaling channel tho fr
It wouldn't do anything every one piece discussion eventually evolves to powerscaling
best genre of one piece
kaido>loki
GET OUT

top 3 attention seeking activities
He still live inside our hearts
@worthy tulip the diss is insane
@rich nimbus he got your ass bruv
Don't summon that nigga
I didn't know I was supposed to I just held a quiet resentment towards him don't tell him that tho he's never acknowledged my existence lets keep it that way
Bart simpson?
do people still think "nemesis" is a black blade and not just a attack name lol
@rich nimbus
its just an attack name, it's not the same black blade as ryuma and mihawk
This British dude is actually writing an essay
How very british
he pings me when i am offline and js say random stuff like "sybau" and a gif
now as they cant send gif he dms me the gif and ping me in manga chat and type sybau
he is aus
Eww a french
yeah it's pretty obvious after this chapter, imu uses a new melee attack that has the same naming scheme as nemesis
who's writing an essay
easiero
Easy Luffy first of all doesnt have any amniosity towards the marines excluding for Akainu, like we've seen this first hand with his relationship with Smoker, if anything Luffy respects the marines especially since his grandfather that bastard is a part of them.
Luffy didnt have the motivation he did with Kaido, or Katakuri to defeat Kizaru. His purpose was to buy enough time for Vegapunk and the rest of the crew to depart the island. He literally says this to Kizaru, and tells him that his job is to stick and play around with him.
And making this "its so clear that they are meant to be equal strength " shallow distasteful statement without even providing evidence to back your claim and whilst youve got on a luffy pfp too just really distasteful. The portrayal between Luffy and Kizarus respective strengths was anything but equal.
The only trait they both shared during their fight was their hesitancy to go all out. With Kizaru he had a lingering sense of hope that the straw hats would succecced and rescue his friend, whilst him not betraying his own code. He didnt really hold back his powers that much but he did try to recuperate luffy.
Luffy on the other hand didnt use the vital weapons he learned on Wano which allowed him to defeat Kaido. He didnt use Ryuo nor did he use ACoC attacks frequently. He was clearly holding back even against the Gorosei. And yet when Kizaru and Saturn both teamed up on him, Luffy was able to handle the pair with ease.
Luffy clearly was stronger than Kizaru, and this can be contrasted by comparing the number of attacks that have incapacitated the other during the fight. I'll reiterate that Luffy was still holding back during the fight.
seems like imu's attack melee attacks are all named "sword of X-Y"
no "i am kinda gay" included?
too bad i am illiterate
sword of divine punishment-nemesis
sword of wrath-gram
yo i had no idea i was even in spoilers wtf
yeah and i don't think the "blade" imu used in his nemesis attack can even count as a sword as it was just a makeshift hilt and with no blade and it was pretty clear that imu used omen to fit the dimensions of the blade
Bro i dont even read one piece what made you think i would read ur essay
yo everybody how was the brook bckstory
Anyway cool chapter am I right
Hell yeah
Alright guys where is my new chapter like on God where is it I will touch y'all if I don't see it
So there’s this thing called a search engine
Yeah go on
Bro
You type what you want and it somehow magically finds stuff
What fr fr ?
technology 
Alright I trust you magic man but if I don't find it
I am coming to touch you so leave your windows open
So you wouldnt if I just closed my windows...?
Probably
What if I am using Linux
you know, seeing brook how he was when he was alive
i cant help but think that they will fuck his color scheme all the way up and give him a ronald mcdonald color scheme with the afro
You mean by actually changing his haircolor?
nothing can stop toei colorers
I dont think they ever did that
they did that to garling and gave him a mcdonalds fit
so cute
i loved the Brook's face ngl.. it looks like a rockstar
Gave me younger Michael vibes
Brook ain’t Michael his aura wack
they gon ruin brook fit
Late Jackson 5 Michael. Not solo Michael
I can’t wait for this flashback
we need god usopp to lock in
ik right
Nika Brook
the kinda first nika in the crew chronologically speaking
did gunko kill her dad as a 7 year old or will we slight time skip to her as an adult in the flashback
As an adult
More like Off the Wall Michael
I was thinking appearance wise 😭
Also IIRC the “This is It” concert before he died was gonna be huge, similar to Brook’s timeskip concert
Next week
We can't provide the link, but there are scans out
where's 1185 smh
🎶The Hummingest Jackson🎶
What happened to pic perm
They’re scared of getting a cease and desist for sharing leaked chapters
Did you get copyrighted?
Not me personally but yes we did receive a copyright strike
#announcements 2nd most recent post explains the changes that are happening to the server
The self ping is crazy
That’s that smeagol/gollum energy
Do it in #bots
ok ty
Np
How long will Oda keep getting alway with doing "this princess has a tragic backstory her mom died"?
It's like, the 7th time already
Tbf, he also seems to be leaning towards SA for them all now lately too… maybe not, but that seems to be what happens when women are taken to Mariejois
It’s peak every time
Chapter??
Oda is on his Game of Thrones phase I guess
Not out yet, tomorrow
yo any link to chapter
All over X and Reddit, champ
whwn is this chapter coming out
hmmmmmmmmm
Where can I read one piece manga free online?
If it ain't broke don't fix it
u know whats gonna happen ? :P
fih
X
go to x and search one piece xdd
Where can I read one piece manga free online?
I mean, Disney been doing that also I guess
If you continue I'm gonna have to mute you
her hair looks a lot like imu's hair just a thought
Where do you usually read it?
Imu's hair is actually very close to Luffy's hair in Nika form
My brother in Nika this is One Piece, everyone has tragic backstories and everyone has dead mothers
nah there are some chill flashbacks like kuma's
some Manmayer celestial dragon kidnaps Shuri trying to get Candel to be their slave/wife after the go to the levely or something, king gets killed.
crazy ip grabber
i think Candel is still alive or didn't did in the flashback somehow
We can'T tell. Could you try google Because you might find
duckduckgo rather
didnt brook call shuri the patricidal princess or was that not the official translation?
That too but I hope he will notice the hint
He did
But I imagine she was possessed
1149 hints at that
by the great imu?
why do people keep saying that candel's gonna get killed tho
It's an inverson of Loki and Harald
patricidal means to kill one's father
everything else would actually be crazy atp. so let's see what Oda has in store for us
What if she was god knight all along
the story so far indicates, that she was a decent person with a traumatic experience. a checkered life if you will. A life of a D. ....
i mean that description fits like a hundred characters
now I get it. well, maybe they were D.
just saying that a lot of characters have sad backstories, that doesn't straight up make them a D
most of them don't even know. see vivi
I don't mind shuri being a D but I dont want every new character to be a D now just because we're in the final era
I'm not sure. Would it be better if a few D. would save the world, and then what? silently disappear or spread and become dominant again?
the other day, everyone was saying that she was going to be evil lol
Bruh server is dead
what happened?
I believe the Ds are bound to play a really big role in the fight against imu but there will also be a lot of non D characters that will join their side
after the Imu fight the D is going to be essentially meaningless
Nothing happened
OKAY this I like
I remember that, but man, now that I’ve seen him. That’s like kicking a man while he’s down… Gunko’s dad is rough
im assuming it's slow because people have already read the fan translation. I haven't tho
or they are in Spoillers 2
tcb is out tho
spoiler 2 is usually slower than spoiler 1
and if they wanna talk about the scan, they have to do it here
otherwise mass perma ban
a real shame, the server ping and the giant discussion when the chapter dropped were amazing
now most people just chat whenever and I doubt that many people wait for viz
idk about you but the viz zolo irritates me so much
oh for sure
never been a fan of zolo
I love going to the one piece wiki and typing "Zolo" into the search bar and there are no suggestions
but it will bring up zoro when you hit search of course
the funny thing is that they translated it that way to avoid copyright issues due to there being a book and film character with the same name
but on the tcg cards it's still zoro
brook backstory gunna hit crazy style
does anyone have a server where they send spoilers
im interested if we're gonna see how he got the scar on his forehead in this flashback
yeah, Zorro
doesn't help that he is known for using a sword as well lol
it's more a long needle 
knowing oda it's likely it's a reference
most definitely
it still cuts though, as he carves a Z on his victims
victim is a stong word tho as Zorro is a vigilante hero
Three personalities mentioned
Well one was definitely Imu

A man’s theories never ends 
yeah, it really is dead in here
everyone checked out because it's flashback time jk
I hope it's at most 4 chapters
where is the chapter? is it out?
tcb is out cant share due to server rules
sry what does tcb mean?
tcb is a translator group, just googling should get you to the chapter tho
the chapters that used to be pinged were the tcb ones, they're by far the most popular fan translations
Ironic
its sad that i wont get a early ping from this discord due to them wanting to be safe. i understand ofc but that was one of the main reasons i joined
yeah, I got into the habit of checking every few hours on thursdays and later, tho I found out 1183 was out thanks to a ytber I follow
his video popped up in my sub feed
shoutout to Syv, my favorite op tuber
I mean the alternative is OPSCANS and their AI translations and upscaling 😭 or once in a blue moon bad coloring with tons of bloom
Where are people reading the chapter?
I find out a chapter dropped now when the channels here have the funny numbers
you know it's bad when you have to reread the same speech bubble 6 times to understand what is going on 
just google one piece tcb 1183
I usually get the Reddit notification, that's why it was weird
Yo where's the link to the chapter?
I got the mihon app on my phone with the tcb source but I have to refresh manually to get updates tho
can't share, server rules
Np, I'll go check around on chrome
.
wheres the mf chapter
bruh
its saturday
Hey can anyone tell me where i can read unofficial releases
just go to the subreddit or the webpage we always waited for and talked about all the time
asking this in spoilers 
This has to be ragebait
Why are we in flashback piece again??
Elbaph, the Land of Flashbacks
lol
you don't want Brook's backstory?
because getting more info about characters is cool
fair ig
enlarging the world, getting connections
it's probably only gonna be 2 or 3 chapters long 
Yeah, yeah. I still read the chapter
When the flashback and god valley and brook (goat) i will be letting it slide
I'm just disappointed bc we went on break twice and I was hyped for Sanji and Zoro
But whatever... Maybe by July we'll be back
July nah probably september if we are slightly lucky
Trueeee
i mean one break was the holiday week in Japan basically and the other one was Odas normal break after 3 chapters, it happens like this every year
Atp I will just have to accept it
Ay man. It's fine
I feel better now that I've expressed my qualms
Shanks vs Luffy better not be interupted
That's a death wish atp
It's a shounen manga afterall
Yeah

There hasnt been a proper fight in many chapters
The fights in Elbaph so far feel so weak
thinking Shanks vs Luffy will happen lol
Imu and Loki are just shooting lightning at each other
what do you think could be the 4th ancient weapon?.
here is my theory
pluton=hades=underworld->he is un the UNDERGROUND of wano
poseidon=lord of the seas->in water rn shirahoshi
Urano=god of sky->the weapon used by imu
so the 4th should be GEA=lord of the land->in a spot in the land (not undergroud not sky )
also in greece mytho gea started gigantomaquia.
and that could be the final battle in one piece
Ok I sound braindead for this take, but I mean... I'm basically just watching the fight to see Imu say another name I have no idea about
I have a theory that Brook composed Bink's Sake
The song is old af, Brook is a musician, the song starts with Brook's laugh
I doubt it
Brook hasn't even done his laugh yet in the flashback
Imma go watch some reviews
From YouTube comments:
"All that is nice, but the most important development of this chapter is the fact that Transponder Snails have a Do Not Disturb mode."
Give them some Snailnip
Humming “I luv your girl” Brook
😭 💔
guys so like if esperia is 77 years back, and brook was 20 years old, that means currently he's 97, when he joined strawhats he was 88, that means 10 years have passed including timeskip??? im confused
It's 70 years ago
yeahhhhh mbb
brook were MUCH stronger then i thought
is candel where brook gets his panty gag from?
Flashback piece
@stoic cragPlease don't post links here
It's alright, might wanna read the 2nd most recent post in #announcements
@stoic crag Bro the link was to a site full of ads that were probably malware
because we wanna see luffy to hit an angry punch again maybe
Welcome to pirating I suggest you get an Adblock
i had adblock and didnt even realised that there was ad in the site
idek why is that a problem, he act like he saw ad for the first time
use ublock origin
for anyone who has seen a japanese leak and knows japanese, was brooks line at the end literally just the "omae wa mo shinderu" (or however you spell it) that became such a meme?
ive read it in english
Best flashbacks in one piece
me too and it seems like an obvious reference, but wondering if thats just the translation or if the original also is an obvious reference
wait i thought mu's colour scheme was gonna be revealed in 1183? or was that just a fake spoiler..
i mean there is as well a lot of youtuber did the chapters rewiew idk why discord havnt gave the chapter out. ive found like 3 site that as well have the english
why are people re-evaluating brook strength after this chapter when he used one of his most basic moves to beat fodders
relevancy and recency bias
i dont think ur not understanding what has he done to raiders. he said that he cut them in MORNING, and when the raiders on the conference saloon they just get killed while brook WERE in the palace
I think he can kill people he's cutted beforehand whenever he wants, regardless of distance.
they are just mafia goons, they are not powerful
i think some people doesn't realize how strong strawhats really are like we always knew brook is strong enough to do things like that to average humans
like brook no diff don krieg for example
bruh i dont wanna say it but i think even usopp can beat don
he is a VERYYY WEAK person to compare
obviously but he made it to hachinosu beware of don krieg 
nahhh he aint doing shit
would be hella funny if he fights in the final war and he has haki before some of the strawhats
I SWEAR to u i was going to do same joke xDDDDDDDDDDDD
is the next chapter gonna relese tmw or next week
hopefully next week
I think the Flash-back is gonnna end with Geko Moria taking over the island in his prime, he has to get into the story back because he seems important
Try 3 years with no sign of trafalgar law
dude hes 50yo
😫
law should be just fine, he has all the medical equipment he needs at his disposal
Aura

so you guys think that they gonna show us the 20 years of flashback?
actually more, cuz moria is 50yo at current so let say he conquered that place in his 20 so they gonna show us 40 YEARS OF FLASHBACK?
i think next chapter he is going to skip right to the dramatic day
the flashback lasts 3 chapters for me
maybe 4 but they return to present in that 4th
67 years ago
big 2026 and still 67 jokes
2026-7
true
Also, Usopp is alive... Hooray!! 😐😐
Seeing this worthless scoundrel acting so casually after the DEPLORABLE performance he's given throughout the ENTIRE Elbaf arc so far makes me furious.
Honestly, we've had the manga running for almost 30 consecutive years, Usopp doesn't deserve any sympathy anymore.
Idk
I don’t think so
No.
We only saw rocks’s poster not bounty
Brook has soo much aura man
New chap released yet or na
you don't know how to check yourself?
?
do you know the answer of his question?
teach a man to ask for a day, he is only fed once, teach a man to check on his own, he is fed for a lifetime
(just check tcb)

FAAAHHH that was something!
we eating good with the new chapter
brook d fraud
😭 half the SHs just sitting around asking brook to tell him his story. robin is hiding away in the library, chopper is begging the giants to not save their kids. Luffy is still eating. Only sanji and zoro are doin anything
last time brook struggled was vs ryuma 💀
I expected the flashback to show up after killingham and sommers was defeated, but I've been waiting for it
the monster trio and the weaklings
Should've gotten this flashback at the imu clash imo
that's what I originally thought would happen
tommorow is when we might see coloured imu right?
luffy zoro and brook
I seen a post somewhere saying the reason we are getting it now is because oda is still figuring out what he wants to do after(now how far after idk)
So he using this to give him more time to flesh that out
headcanon, but maybe true
Of course it's headcannon, I doubt oda would ever elaborate that much into his writing process but suddenly shoehorning the brook flashback here does makes sense with the line of thought 🤔
I mean the whole narrative was shifted on loki vs imu, and the past. Super weird to shift it back on brook when Luffy seemed to be almost joining
Probably brook got weaker after he lost muscle power. Having muscular arms help swordsmen.
Oda always does this
Like when
Remember in Drum when he cut to the Chopper flashback in the middle of Luffy punching Wapol?
Jin Mori pfp
Like literally the middle as he was saying the attack name
Skypiea too
Dressrosa it was also in the middle or the conflict
Egghead too
he fought ryuma in thriller bark
well ryuma's body with brooks soul in it
they were chasing chopper around the castle trying to get him to join the crew when kureha started Choppers backstory
Wapol fight didnt even start yet
Yeah i mean , brook was stronger before he was reborn as skeleton.
Starting the brook flashback hear is like to starting the oden flashback after luffy dies to kaido
Related I don't think so but definitely good chums
Hmmmm, fair fair. I was talking about the previous chapter with Kurehas word but this is true
Images? How
I would say I am not happy about the falashback being here, but that is both because I didn't want it here period but also the burnout talking
Pre ts Luffy had a fucking sleeper holy
Yeah, people forget that he's supposed to be jacked because Oda draws his characters in a very stylized way
Helper privileges
Idk I really don't mind the timing, it feels fine to me
Though this is the thing I was looking forward to the most in the entire arc so of couse I'm not gonna complain
Is he okay
It's the best timing possible actually, it couldn't have been any later
he died shortly after
This happened to a guy at my school. He posted this in the class discord
The scam message
From the last chapter we were already shifting gears and moving onto focusing on the other characters
Sommers and Qilingham's resolution and their fights have been set in motion now, it was then Gunko's turn naturally
Resolving her storyline naturally required a flashback to happen right now
Loki v Imu is only the prelude to the big main event with Luffy anyways, we'll get back to it when its time for Luffy to step in
Arsal stop they cannot understand basic storytelling structure
I feel like people deadass forgot that we've got a Gunko storyline to resolve judging by some of the reactions
Its like they seemed to believe that Imu v Loki would end, then Luffy v Imu would happen and end and then we could leave 😭
I saw someone say 5 chapters ago that the arc's ending in 5 chapters, with full confidence
People weren't paying attention to the best character in the arc...
Sommers
rocks?
Sommers is like #4 or #5
I said best not worst
And this wasn't a singular case, there's been many who have been massively underestimating how long this arc will go
worst prob gunko
Sunbell?
You cannot ragebait me
same w u rocks is goated
I can only conclude that they genuinely were entirely clueless about how an arc is structured and forgot how much there is left to do
Or One Piece fans cant read, I guess it's all 3
Even when they were, they believed she won't even be addressed again
who
A take I saw fairly commonly was that she'd just return to Marie Geoise without anything else happening
And yep, that too
theres no such thing as a pointless backstory
True
No wonder they're caught off guard by a flashback, they somehow didn't even think it was happening
I expected a flashback but not a dozen chapters only after the previous one and right in the midst of a fight against imu
tbf it was unexpected but ppl who js want action should js read solo leveling lol
brook ofc
who knows we might need context in flashback for the fight
Flashback should be like 3 or 4 chapters
deadass man
Yes, let’s get back to daddy imu
I meant like characters introduced in Elbaf but yeah if we're counting everyone he's up there
It's only a secondary fight, its not the main event lol. Remember, we cut to the Kuma flashback just a chapter after Saturn arrived
its a brook+gunko flashback




