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topaz pecan
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ragnir would shoot a ice beam and send kuzan to the land of ice

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turn that boy kuzan into oars

regal hazel
whole orchid
cedar sluice
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Kuzan agenda

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He gets no diff by ragnir ong

whole orchid
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he low diffs ragnir lmao

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there's NOTHING that ragnir is gonna be doing to kuzan

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kuzan is waaay faster and he'll instantly freeze ragnir the moment their fight starts

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ppl forget kuzan literally tp'd to the middle of marineford in a second

cedar sluice
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Sure

glass depot
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Why do some people think Brook was stronger alive when we know he wasn’t as strong during his time as first mate and caption of his former crew? A living older Brook had a 33 million bounty as a captain and couldn’t survive the New World

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Theres no possibility he’s stronger

wise horizon
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the king is already out. he's Brook's bro

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or leader

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maybe Shuri is just a key for something

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remember the family has enemies

foggy trout
topaz pecan
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blackred give up bro you're making yourself look like one of buggy's subordinates

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delusional ✌️😂

dreamy gazelle
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1183 alr in mangafire btw

topaz pecan
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be glad im on pc and not mobile because I'm gonna be the next clayoreus

whole orchid
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you got nothing to prove my take wrong and just call me a larper

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kuzan is 100 times faster and he'll instantly freeze ragnir, that's it, the fight is over

foggy trout
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I'm still shocked you're still on this

glass depot
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Most rookies don’t even have over 100 million entering the NW

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Gecko Moria had a bounty of 320 million and has a better feat of losing to Kaido.

topaz pecan
# whole orchid you got nothing to prove my take wrong and just call me a larper
  1. ragnir is way faster in both hammer or squirrel forms; number one it took loki with observation to sense and dodge ragnir flying at him immediately within the devil fruit chest room. the sheer speed ragnir possesses as a giant object also should be noted bum
  2. because of ragnir's giant size, unless kuzan can flash-freeze people, he's not flash-freezing ragnir and even if he did, ragnir could just hop up from squirrel form and use his hammer form to break through the ice easily
  3. disproven yesterday btw ragna-ice is stronger than kuzan's ice. kuzan cannot freeze his ice over ragnir's and melt it or unthaw it, it's literally impossible so don't try and pull up that larp of a statement again
  4. The minute their fight starts, Kuzan would probably go for that move and Ragnir would stomp him in hammer form. lets be fr here unless kuzan gets a stat boost for an admiral, which should be noted he's already renown and strong for, he is not beating ragnir unless its a extremely high diff because dear god ragnir would stomp kuzan✌️😂 As a giant squirrel and hammer, ragnir probably possesses better stats in stamina, speed, and overall strength because of his giant size while kuzan, for a human with already good stats, probably doesn't have the brute that ragnir has
  5. larp larp larp ludge lragon loro lanji lahur kuzan is not 100 times faster, statement hasn't been said by any of the cast or side characters, and uhhhhh
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yeah Larp your heart away with your larping agenda.

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ragnir prolly dont even got haki and even then kuzan's ice would fail to freeze ragnir over

supple creek
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holy peak

topaz pecan
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be for real and say proudly that kuzan would freeze ragnir, an 800 year old weapon and a hammer, over CURRENTLY vs eos

supple creek
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one piece is back goda is back

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elbaf unfell off

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luffy fuckjing sucks still

topaz pecan
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i cant lie i can see kuzan trying to beat ragnir

But even then its a no-shot

versed glen
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ragnir is yonkolevel

topaz pecan
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ragnir is above yonko level

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only difficult fights he'd prolly have are loki and imu and maybe void century-level chars

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but otherwise 90% of the cast is getting killed😂

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oda had to make a sentient squirrel hammer the one-shotter of the series of all things

echo siren
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okay new theory i saw on twitter

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from @/Lixogram

Notice Esperia Kingdom (just like Alabasta and other places associated with Joyboy) is also elevated...

They knew about the flood...?! 🤔

#ONEPIECE
#ONEPIECE1183

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check if we see their flag in the upcoming chapters

jade folio
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idk where to type this question out but i just figured here was fine. does anyone have an explanation to brooks pretimeskip powerscaling? bcoz where was this backstory brook in thriller bark?

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also if i missed out on something reading wise please let me know

idle ravine
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Yo like 12 hours later I’m still seeing Kuzan vs Ragnir 😭😭

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Didn’t expect the matchup to be honest

idle ravine
topaz pecan
idle ravine
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Dudes had a long life after all, a second one at that

topaz pecan
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this is akainu vs kuzan in a nutshell 🐿️

idle ravine
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To be honest with ya I just don’t really care about it in a minute 😭😭😭😭

topaz pecan
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except kuzan is kuzan and ragnir is akainu

idle ravine
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Like it’s all hypotheticals really

idle ravine
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Not much can be backed for Ragnir because well we haven’t seen much of Ragnir in the first place

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I’d be surprised if a legendary squirrel isn’t fast tho

jade folio
lofty briar
slow trench
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So, how long will this flashback be

jade folio
jade folio
slow trench
topaz pecan
idle ravine
topaz pecan
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we gotta put it into Perspective™

whole orchid
# topaz pecan 1. ragnir is way faster in both hammer or squirrel forms; number one it took lok...
  1. yeah and that speed is still DOGSHIT, kuzan tpd to the middle of marineford in a second, and is way smaller than ragnir which means hes also a harder target for ragnir to freeze. ragnir was fighting loki whos bigger than him, kuzan is a MUCH smaller target here and has already shown a crazy speed feat that should be able to tell you he can easily dodge ragnirs ice attack
  2. yes, kuzan would flash freeze ragnir and the moment ragnir changes from his hammer form to the squirrel one, kuzan will completely freeze the squirrel too lmao
  3. it don't matter if ragnirs ice is harder than kuzan's ice, they're both ice and ragnirs speed isn't enough to catch and freeze kuzan, there's no chance thats seriously happening ragnir don't got enough speed feats to put his speed on par with kuzan and i explained in point 1 that kuzan is also a much smaller target compared to loki who he had relative speed to
  4. what part of this debate are you not getting? I'm not saying kuzan scales above ragnir, kuzan is simply way faster and he WILL instantly freeze ragnir in either of his forms, it's an ass matchup for ragnir and you're making all assumptions about him having better stats lmfao

all your shit is headcannon about his stats, speed, haki and everything, all this is based off of "uhm, he's an 800 year old squirrel 🤓" that don't mean shit dawg

slow trench
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Whoever Dozan is, he better be not a fucking bum bro, I'm tired of useless new characters being added since Wano

jade folio
whole orchid
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take the L, ragnir is never beating kuzan

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he does not have any feats to actually beat kuzan in a one on one matchup

glass depot
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Ragnir and Kuzan are both under prime Garp

wise horizon
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squirrel 🔽

rich panther
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chipmunk typing

glass depot
wise horizon
glass depot
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We’ve never seen Kuzan destroy or freeze a whole island

whole orchid
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y'all don't understand that kuzan is a bad matchup for ragnir

jade folio
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#1 ragnir fan

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😭✌️

whole orchid
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I'm not saying kuzan scales above ragnir, but ragnir would lose because of a bad matchup

rich panther
rich panther
jade folio
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who started this bru 😭

whole orchid
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It's like EOS sanji vs boa, EOS sanji scales way above but he gets matchup diffed hard cuz he would instantly get petrified

idle ravine
rich panther
jade folio
wise horizon
glass depot
rich panther
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hey why are pretending like ragnir is a indiviual character its a WEAPON it needs a weilder to be used

whole orchid
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sanji would probably get petrified on spot lol

glass depot
rich panther
jade folio
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bro whoever ragebaited this 🐿️ into typing an essay 😂😂

rich panther
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dozan is
doflamingo-zoro-sanji
a love triangle

wise horizon
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lol

rich panther
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its him js writing 1 line

wise horizon
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just to say. Squeak!

rich panther
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lemme wait

jade folio
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… 🐿️ is typing…

wise horizon
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do u guys like the chap? excellent, good, normal, mid?

jade folio
rich panther
wise forge
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if this isnt usopps power up arc in some way or another id be a little disappointed

topaz pecan
# whole orchid 1. yeah and that speed is still DOGSHIT, kuzan tpd to the middle of marineford i...

larp your heart away blackred! realistically even though ragnir doesn't have any CURRENTLY feats That's an 800 year old ice squirrel possessing an 800 year old hammer who's been stuck in a room farming aura. letsa see whossa gonna win!! Wahoo!! Mario!!®

  1. Kuzan teleporting to the middle of Marineford was only for plot purposes to show his arrival to freeze over the tsunami, shit and even then THAT wasnt a flashfreeze, it took him genuine time to freeze over a tsunami that's as big as ragnir... just like he'll do to RAGNIRRR!!! >larp Ragnir's ice can be fired off in misty beams which vs Kuzan needing to be in direct physical contact to freeze his targets. he needed props to fire off ice ball properly on garp and needed to use his hands to freeze over robin with ice-time it does not get better than this. even if kuzan somehow had the sheer strength to freeze over ragnir this quick, again, ragnir would tank it out cause he's a hammer
  2. kuzan can flash-freeze... ragnir can flash freeze on a larger scale 😭. you made me remember that with loki, who's the size of an ancient giant, that ragnir managed to freeze a mountain/island-sized draugur into a massive block of ice that's probably eons bigger than marineford and you STILL got the gaul to say "Oh, yeah. Kuzan can flashfreeze something that big" when it'll take time, just like how it took time to freeze over the tsunami because of its size.
  3. Other than speed in this scenario, lemme js note that Ragnir's strength easily broke apart the devil fruit treasure chest room which is made outta ??? material and if imu never stopped ragnir from hitting him, that blow would've been DededeSTRUCTIVE!!™
  4. if you're not saying kuzan scales above ragnir, what's the point of your debate even about? js stop glazing a statement that everyone knows is true.... that ragnir one-shots kuzan! in speed! in ice! in everything😭 its simply put that Kuzan is notorious for his strength as a former admiral but even then he's not beating ragnir
rich panther
wise horizon
jade folio
topaz pecan
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😭😭😂

topaz pecan
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this debate is stupid Icl

topaz pecan
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Ragnir > Kuzan in scaling but still if its a matchup ragnir would still win

jade folio
topaz pecan
jade folio
whole orchid
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I'm reading this headcannon bs

topaz pecan
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i gotta be the next clayoreus i cant let my goat get slandered in a debate of 0 feats

jade folio
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it’s okay ragnir MAYBE beats kuzan

topaz pecan
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What does kuzan have against that

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na na Tell me a better feat with kuzan's ice than that

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Tell me another time kuzan was so fast another enemy needed obv to dodge that shii

jade folio
whole orchid
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i'll adddress everything altogether

topaz pecan
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You cant find this stuff because kuzan hasnt performed better feats than this😭

delicate river
versed glen
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did harald ever try and fight ragnir i dont remember

topaz pecan
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the debate is one-sided only because ragnir doesn't have any legendary feats rn but kuzan doesn't either

jade folio
delicate river
topaz pecan
topaz pecan
jade folio
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this is blackreds argument not mine

versed glen
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i dont remember how hard the ragnir fight was for loki

jade folio
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i can’t argue with powerscalers

delicate river
versed glen
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he was able to get up after the fight and fight harald so it couldnt have been too hard

rich panther
topaz pecan
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even then ragnir coulda kept going

versed glen
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nah i remember ragnir was fucked up on the floor with spinning eyes

topaz pecan
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like i respect you genuinely blackred for the debate but hypothetically Kuzan's not surviving this even with the gear 2-speed you headcanon and the flash-freezing

topaz pecan
topaz pecan
rich panther
versed glen
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nvm bro ragnir isnt taking an admiral

topaz pecan
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ive never speedtyped so fast in my life

jade folio
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drama

rich panther
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sigma male

topaz pecan
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Don't larp, easty. be a bart.

topaz pecan
drowsy nebula
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definitely did not one shot a holy knight. But ragnir is very strong and you can easily interpret ragnir to be admiral level unfortunately

charred furnace
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why is jinbei talking about killing gunko like he doesnt know what story hes in

rich panther
delicate river
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also Kuzan ain't even a admiral no more QueenKEKW

topaz pecan
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im not debating laww Im gonna get eaten up i fear him

rich panther
delicate river
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why admiral fan boys getting threatened by Kuzan mention

topaz pecan
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there's three powerscalers you never mess with

Laww
Easiero

and uhhhhhhhhhh Third guy

delicate river
whole orchid
rich panther
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you aint gonna name me ik

topaz pecan
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who are you..?

rich panther
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you forgot my name

topaz pecan
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isnt your name

Chud?

rich panther
rich panther
drowsy nebula
versed glen
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its not possible for ragnir to have haki right

foggy echo
drowsy nebula
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ragnir can have haki its living

topaz pecan
rich panther
drowsy nebula
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but it probably doesnt have haki

foggy echo
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koya setnickname @rich panther to chud

versed glen
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he gets fucked up by kuzan

rich panther
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go drink kizaru piss

topaz pecan
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kung fu-dugong can teach ragnir haki

foggy echo
whole orchid
topaz pecan
rich panther
topaz pecan
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all you've been talking about is how kuzan one-shots ragnir and nothing else

whole orchid
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i'll respond to your msg later dw

topaz pecan
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and nobody agrees😭

topaz pecan
jade folio
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kuzan does not one shot ragnir wtf

foggy echo
jade folio
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one shot is a stretch

drowsy nebula
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neither is one shotting the other

delicate river
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even imu cannot do it aPES_Giggle

topaz pecan
drowsy nebula
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ragnir's ice is more potent but aokiji winning

topaz pecan
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only part of it he's been dogging on

versed glen
jade folio
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i thought you meant like high-extreme diff

topaz pecan
versed glen
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i really dont think kuzan is getting dogged by loki that badly

jade folio
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not one shot lol

topaz pecan
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is that not a better feat than most fights

versed glen
drowsy nebula
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I mean dont you think aokiji can tank an acoc attack too

topaz pecan
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who needed to glaze acoc at age 16 to beat a magic floating hammer in loki's case

topaz pecan
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nvm blue hole exists

versed glen
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kuzan is like neck a neck strength with akainu pretty much who was taking earthquake attacks

drowsy nebula
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him fighting akainu for 10 days is a bigger feat than surviving an acoc attack lol

whole orchid
versed glen
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he is definitely durable

whole orchid
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you sleeping on kuzan

idle ravine
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I just think if you just go about it narratively Kuzan has to be stronger than Ragnir knowing his role and Ragnir is really a weapon at its strongest WITH Loki you know

topaz pecan
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the only thing i do is sleep like kuzan i dont sleep on him

idle ravine
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Like this is beyond feats

versed glen
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yea kuzan has better haki and far better feats ragnir just has more durable ice

jade folio
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squirrel v drakes new album

whole orchid
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exactly what I've been saying, this guy doesn't get it he's extremely biased

topaz pecan
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im not biased i just know the facts about ragnir and you know the facts about kuzan

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its a tied debate

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and that you keep mentioning the same feats about kuzan over and over again

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warping to the middle of marineford and flash-freezing so-and-so

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switch it up twinnnnn Shhhhhhhh

whole orchid
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yeah because he only needs a few feats to put him over in this fight

topaz pecan
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blackred do ye think enel beats loki

mighty gale
versed glen
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loki beats enel limbless and without five senses neg diff

dire panther
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when is official release

mighty gale
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sunday

whole orchid
topaz pecan
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trust me Enel got it

topaz pecan
whole orchid
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freezing and lightning is different

idle ravine
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Enel got it cause he’s an aura farmer bro trust me

topaz pecan
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both are elementals

What doesnt make sense😭

idle ravine
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The best self glazer OAT

jade folio
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guys let’s just call oda and see what he says

topaz pecan
idle ravine
drowsy nebula
topaz pecan
versed glen
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enel going neg diff with pretimeskip pre gears pre haki luffy

whole orchid
jade folio
topaz pecan
jade folio
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then two part it with ur question

whole orchid
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i started a day ago too lmao

topaz pecan
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you've been dragging this on and on with other people i haven't

topaz pecan
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Do not larp infront of the larping scouter

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i scout out larp in the wilds of r/onepiece

jade folio
whole orchid
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i started this 23 hrs ago

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i think i said kuzan would beat ragnir in the manga chat once but i wasn't debating it

jade folio
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it has finally ended

versed glen
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get ragnir past sabo

whole orchid
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i'll start it again later

worthy coral
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The "don't stay in elbaph for too long" warning was a warning to the fact that the longer you stay here the more flashbacks happen

topaz pecan
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you NEED to debate something else

versed glen
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matter of fact get him past sanji

topaz pecan
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pleaase bruh you're gonna aget the mods to kill you

jade folio
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this is genuinely what all of the one piece fanbase is all about

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powerscaling

whole orchid
worthy coral
versed glen
jade folio
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it’s usually doflamingo

versed glen
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cant make ts up

jade folio
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bad timing

topaz pecan
versed glen
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same dudes who think they are geniuses for not engaging in powerscaling

jade folio
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don’t target me 😭😭 go back to ragnir v aokiji

worthy coral
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Fave game probably has either a gun or a ball

whole orchid
versed glen
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ahh you dont understand my refined palate you bakas you see powerscaling is too simple minded for me i only care about the themes and narrative

whole orchid
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and shanks vs mihawk debates been going for years nothing happened to them

topaz pecan
jade folio
whole orchid
whole orchid
topaz pecan
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nope im your only big rival

worthy coral
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Powerscaling is junk food themes and such discussion is the broccoli

topaz pecan
versed glen
whole orchid
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but I'm saying people debating shanks vs mihawk don't get muted or banned

topaz pecan
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mihawk genuinely mops the floor with shanks

worthy coral
foggy trout
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Will Ragnir be a normal brown squirrel or some odd color?

topaz pecan
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he'd make shanks' hair turn blue

versed glen
topaz pecan
whole orchid
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mihawk would win but it's extreme diff

jade folio
worthy coral
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Shanks lowkey using a party city sword icel

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Imagine shanks with an actual weapon

rich panther
versed glen
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shanks>loki

worthy coral
topaz pecan
rich panther
topaz pecan
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foreshadowing gryphon is a sword that summons a [blank]

topaz pecan
versed glen
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loki kinda made powerscaling alot harder

topaz pecan
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introduction of loki and ragnir killed one piece scaling

idle ravine
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Oda when he reveals Shanks’ sword as a Mythical Zoan just like his brothers only cause he had a bit to drink before making the chapter

worthy coral
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Shanks is gonna be like Zoro lend me your sword

idle ravine
topaz pecan
versed glen
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he killed harald who seemed to be on par with guys like rocks, but he got beaten by shanks who is inferior to mihawk

topaz pecan
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garling's saber: chimera. source: trust in garling

drowsy nebula
jade folio
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posture scaling

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shanks poured mihawk his drink

versed glen
worthy coral
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How is shanks even gonna sharpen his sword Fr that shi probably dull asf

jade folio
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you always pour the drink to your superiors

topaz pecan
versed glen
jade folio
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therefore mihawk ****no diffs

topaz pecan
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that boy vegapunk's head was gigantic and yet he still had the best posture prior to having it chopped off

rich panther
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but luffy might beat loki
i am not sure

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ig

knotty palm
rich panther
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ragnir larps as ragnir

topaz pecan
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this is my son.

knotty palm
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Shamrock seems like an inferior Loki

versed glen
jade folio
knotty palm
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Nidhogg powers + ratatoskr hammer > Cerberus sword

worthy coral
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This random ass chipmunk character confuses me (I have only been reading spoilers for the past year)

rich panther
versed glen
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feels like oda clearly tries to display luffy as on par with the other yonko but he feels so much weaker because of his stamina

knotty palm
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Next time Loki is gonna wipe the floor with Shamrock

jade folio
knotty palm
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He better pray for an Omen buff

drowsy nebula
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yea luffy still admiral level I fear

versed glen
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shamrock would give loki a good fight i’d assume

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they said shanks could be on par with shamrock in the flashback

worthy coral
rich panther
worthy coral
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Luffy akainu pinkie toe tier

rich panther
knotty palm
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Ngl Shanks probably stopped Loki from killing his brother because he knew Shamrock is under Imu's influence and wants to find a way to save him

jade folio
rich panther
drowsy nebula
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currently? the strongest person i believe luffy is beating is kizaru

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theres other people strronger who he could maybe beat, but I'd have him losing to

topaz pecan
drowsy nebula
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If loki's feats are to be taken seriously hes not beating loki

knotty palm
worthy coral
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Kizaru on Adderall no diffs luffy

topaz pecan
knotty palm
topaz pecan
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Luffy would have gone places😭

rich panther
knotty palm
drowsy nebula
worthy coral
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Imagine manosphere kizaru

rich panther
drowsy nebula
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luffy getting put in an ice block

rich panther
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if you want screenshot i can send

jade folio
rich panther
versed glen
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Its definitely being portrayed that luffy and loki are at a similar level

rich panther
knotty palm
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Lightning hammer infused with CoC probably works on Luffy tho, just of the fact that haki does work on df's.

rich panther
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first mistake of sea jimbei

jade folio
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usopp better do something this arc tho or im actually going to be mad

versed glen
worthy coral
knotty palm
versed glen
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never

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its so clear that they are meant to be equal strength

topaz pecan
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easty. be easiero! defend luffy!

rich panther
worthy coral
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Guys Luffy is just stalling so that we can backstory farm and also have dragon show up

versed glen
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tell me why luffy would stall against kizaru im curious

rich panther
worthy coral
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Dragon still waiting on his Uber pickup trust

knotty palm
rich panther
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and also NONE in luffy vs kizaru was serious

versed glen
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i still think luffy won the kizaru interaction but i dont think he was stalling at all

rich panther
versed glen
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why though why wouldng he be serious

knotty palm
rich panther
worthy coral
versed glen
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it wasnt a draw luffy knocked him down, turned him into pizza, ragdolled him across the map

rich panther
versed glen
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one acoc punch and kizaru was on the floor

worthy coral
versed glen
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luffy just ran out of stamina kizaru didnt even land a single hit

rich panther
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i can easily tell the diff bw
kaido vs luffy and luffy vs saturn and gorosei

rich panther
drowsy nebula
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and kizaru gets up first TO HELP LUFFY

rich panther
versed glen
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its not like kizaru did anything to damage luffy though

drowsy nebula
rich panther
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for vegapunk-kuma/bonney-kizaru setup

drowsy nebula
versed glen
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we’re giving kizaru a very bullshit w here

drowsy nebula
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what is the bullshit

rich panther
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i dont think luffy and kizaru both serious
kizaru is getting the dub

drowsy nebula
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its a tie, luffy losing due to stamina is still losing

rich panther
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but i can also say one thing

versed glen
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he literally didnt even do anything our guy just ran out, and he was already in gear 5 before the fight started

drowsy nebula
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yes and running out of stamina counts as you being done

worthy coral
#

Luffy was stalling so that his gear 5 could run out and he could die

versed glen
rich panther
#

loki and luffy fight 10 times
the winner will each be 5-6/10

versed glen
#

you jusg keep saying bruh what the fuck did you skip egghead

rich panther
versed glen
#

i am not clicking this

drowsy nebula
jade folio
rich panther
worthy coral
rich panther
drowsy nebula
#

I am saying I hope you meant luffy

knotty palm
topaz pecan
rich panther
drowsy nebula
rich panther
jade folio
topaz pecan
#

see LOOK AT EM THE BLACKRED IS SPREADING

versed glen
drowsy nebula
#

bro just dox himself

jade folio
worthy coral
#

No

#

I made up a fake address but got scared

drowsy nebula
#

ok

topaz pecan
rich panther
#

zoro is 2% strong after training for all day,being author and toei fav against a cook on the ship who DONT even train and js smokes,simp and cooks

worthy coral
worthy coral
#

Sanji is working those genes out

jade folio
rich panther
rich panther
topaz pecan
rich panther
rich panther
topaz pecan
rich panther
#

i dont like it anyways

worthy coral
rich panther
worthy coral
#

If sanji had all of zoros batman gear he'd kill Imu trust

jade folio
rich panther
worthy coral
worthy coral
#

Some may have earned them more than others

jade folio
rich panther
jade folio
#

wrong gif wtf

#

and i can’t even send it wtf

topaz pecan
#

otherwise ragnir wins

whole orchid
#

kuzan solos

jade folio
whole orchid
#

lets move on to another matchup

worthy coral
#

How many kindergartners do you think usopp could fight before he gets overwhelmed

whole orchid
#

kuzan vs old garp who do y'all think wins

rich panther
rich panther
topaz pecan
worthy coral
#

Usopp vs 1000 kindrgarteners who win

topaz pecan
#

"Oh yeah im still gonna say it a bit later"

worthy coral
topaz pecan
#

lets do a more serious debate

rich panther
topaz pecan
#

Who wins oven (akainu without logia) or akainu (oven without paramecia)

molten tiger
jade folio
whole orchid
topaz pecan
slow roost
worthy coral
jade folio
worthy coral
#

He's also on a mountain

#

Or a hill rather

slow roost
grave lion
worthy coral
#

Gave him an advantage and he still lost 😭

worthy coral
#

Zoro vs 1000 kindergartners be like (insert gif of someone using scythe on grass)

rich panther
worthy coral
#

Usopp vs 1000 kindergartners be like (insert bloons td super monkey gif)

rich panther
worthy coral
#

Speed blitzed

versed glen
#

look at how imu is putting both of them on a pedestal

whole orchid
#

another guy gonna be dropping essays now 😭

rich panther
versed glen
#

the big fight is gonna be loki and luffy vs imu its not like oda’s gonna have his mc just get carried lol

worthy coral
#

Trvke incoming

indigo sentinel
whole orchid
#

we should make a powerscaling channel tho fr

worthy coral
indigo sentinel
#

kaido>loki

worthy coral
#

We have a powerscaling discussion channel where you can optionally have side tangents it's called #spoilers and #manga

rich panther
indigo sentinel
silent summit
gleaming marlin
rich panther
rich panther
worthy coral
#

Don't summon that nigga

rich panther
worthy coral
#

I didn't know I was supposed to I just held a quiet resentment towards him don't tell him that tho he's never acknowledged my existence lets keep it that way

gleaming marlin
mild sphinx
#

do people still think "nemesis" is a black blade and not just a attack name lol

indigo sentinel
#

@rich nimbus

whole orchid
worthy coral
#

This British dude is actually writing an essay

indigo sentinel
#

How very british

rich panther
rich panther
gleaming marlin
mild sphinx
astral crow
#

who's writing an essay

rich panther
grave lion
# versed glen tell me why luffy would stall against kizaru im curious

Easy Luffy first of all doesnt have any amniosity towards the marines excluding for Akainu, like we've seen this first hand with his relationship with Smoker, if anything Luffy respects the marines especially since his grandfather that bastard is a part of them.

Luffy didnt have the motivation he did with Kaido, or Katakuri to defeat Kizaru. His purpose was to buy enough time for Vegapunk and the rest of the crew to depart the island. He literally says this to Kizaru, and tells him that his job is to stick and play around with him.

And making this "its so clear that they are meant to be equal strength " shallow distasteful statement without even providing evidence to back your claim and whilst youve got on a luffy pfp too just really distasteful. The portrayal between Luffy and Kizarus respective strengths was anything but equal.

The only trait they both shared during their fight was their hesitancy to go all out. With Kizaru he had a lingering sense of hope that the straw hats would succecced and rescue his friend, whilst him not betraying his own code. He didnt really hold back his powers that much but he did try to recuperate luffy.

Luffy on the other hand didnt use the vital weapons he learned on Wano which allowed him to defeat Kaido. He didnt use Ryuo nor did he use ACoC attacks frequently. He was clearly holding back even against the Gorosei. And yet when Kizaru and Saturn both teamed up on him, Luffy was able to handle the pair with ease.

Luffy clearly was stronger than Kizaru, and this can be contrasted by comparing the number of attacks that have incapacitated the other during the fight. I'll reiterate that Luffy was still holding back during the fight.

mild sphinx
#

seems like imu's attack melee attacks are all named "sword of X-Y"

rich panther
mild sphinx
#

sword of divine punishment-nemesis
sword of wrath-gram

astral crow
whole orchid
indigo sentinel
#

Bro i dont even read one piece what made you think i would read ur essay

rich panther
#

yo everybody how was the brook bckstory

hollow depot
#

Anyway cool chapter am I right

round walrus
#

Hell yeah

tame helm
#

Gottem

silent kraken
#

Alright guys where is my new chapter like on God where is it I will touch y'all if I don't see it

fathom zephyr
silent kraken
#

Yeah go on

fathom zephyr
#

Bro

elfin elbow
#

You type what you want and it somehow magically finds stuff

silent kraken
#

What fr fr ?

elfin elbow
#

technology KizaruWHUH

silent kraken
#

Alright I trust you magic man but if I don't find it

#

I am coming to touch you so leave your windows open

round walrus
#

So you wouldnt if I just closed my windows...?

silent kraken
#

Probably

inland laurel
charred furnace
#

you know, seeing brook how he was when he was alive

#

i cant help but think that they will fuck his color scheme all the way up and give him a ronald mcdonald color scheme with the afro

round walrus
charred furnace
#

yeah

#

it was red all along

round walrus
#

Why would they do that we know his colorscheme

charred furnace
#

nothing can stop toei colorers

round walrus
#

I dont think they ever did that

charred furnace
#

they did that to garling and gave him a mcdonalds fit

wise horizon
#

i loved the Brook's face ngl.. it looks like a rockstar

steep hazel
fathom zephyr
#

Brook ain’t Michael his aura wack

charred furnace
#

they gon ruin brook fit

steep hazel
sand wigeon
#

I can’t wait for this flashback

hot walrus
#

we need god usopp to lock in

scarlet moth
#

ik right

vernal anvil
#

Nika Brook

delicate river
vernal anvil
#

Brook was proto Nika

#

Same pose & style

charred furnace
#

did gunko kill her dad as a 7 year old or will we slight time skip to her as an adult in the flashback

hollow depot
#

As an adult

pallid mortar
red sinew
#

So would current Brook be 2000s Michael?

#

Or too soon

pallid mortar
#

Nah, Brook is stuck in like 80s Michael

#

height his career and all that

red sinew
#

I was thinking appearance wise 😭

#

Also IIRC the “This is It” concert before he died was gonna be huge, similar to Brook’s timeskip concert

fresh hill
#

Where’s 1183

#

I don’t know where to find

scarlet moth
#

where's 1184

#

im looking for it

hollow depot
#

Next week

hollow depot
indigo sentinel
#

where's 1185 smh

steep hazel
gleaming marlin
#

What happened to pic perm

steep hazel
fresh hill
hollow depot
#

Not me personally but yes we did receive a copyright strike

#

#announcements 2nd most recent post explains the changes that are happening to the server

scarlet moth
#

did you guys actually copyright or was it a wrong accusing

#

@scarlet moth

fathom zephyr
#

The self ping is crazy

scarlet moth
#

idk it told me to since i was a new member

#

?rank

steep hazel
hollow depot
scarlet moth
#

ok ty

hollow depot
#

Np

severe sparrow
#

How long will Oda keep getting alway with doing "this princess has a tragic backstory her mom died"?

#

It's like, the 7th time already

versed glen
#

how mang actually is it

#

vivi rebecca uhhh maybe nami?

steep hazel
hushed marsh
#

Chapter??

severe sparrow
severe sparrow
ancient monolith
#

yo any link to chapter

severe sparrow
edgy quiver
#

whwn is this chapter coming out

ancient monolith
#

hmmmmmmmmm

blazing lava
#

Where can I read one piece manga free online?

pallid mortar
ancient monolith
thorn tide
#

fih

severe sparrow
#

Bro don't spam

hollow depot
#

@blazing lavastop

#

We can't link it here

severe sparrow
#

X

ancient monolith
#

go to x and search one piece xdd

blazing lava
#

Where can I read one piece manga free online?

severe sparrow
hollow depot
ancient monolith
#

her hair looks a lot like imu's hair just a thought

pallid mortar
pallid mortar
indigo sentinel
twin forum
indigo sentinel
red seal
indigo sentinel
#

crazy ip grabber

red seal
#

i think Candel is still alive or didn't did in the flashback somehow

grave ocean
cobalt temple
autumn raptor
#

didnt brook call shuri the patricidal princess or was that not the official translation?

grave ocean
hollow depot
#

But I imagine she was possessed

#

1149 hints at that

cobalt temple
hollow depot
#

Yeah

#

Or controlled like Harald

autumn raptor
#

why do people keep saying that candel's gonna get killed tho

hollow depot
#

It's an inverson of Loki and Harald

autumn raptor
#

patricidal means to kill one's father

cobalt temple
#

everything else would actually be crazy atp. so let's see what Oda has in store for us

grave ocean
#

What if she was god knight all along

cobalt temple
#

the story so far indicates, that she was a decent person with a traumatic experience. a checkered life if you will. A life of a D. ....

autumn raptor
#

i mean that description fits like a hundred characters

cobalt temple
autumn raptor
#

just saying that a lot of characters have sad backstories, that doesn't straight up make them a D

cobalt temple
autumn raptor
#

I don't mind shuri being a D but I dont want every new character to be a D now just because we're in the final era

cobalt temple
#

I'm not sure. Would it be better if a few D. would save the world, and then what? silently disappear or spread and become dominant again?

pseudo hazel
cobalt temple
#

the king reminds me of a mafia boss from a B movie

#

kinda like the idea

dusky cairn
#

Bruh server is dead

cobalt temple
#

what happened?

autumn raptor
dusky cairn
steep hazel
pseudo hazel
#

im assuming it's slow because people have already read the fan translation. I haven't tho

#

or they are in Spoillers 2

autumn raptor
#

tcb is out tho

cobalt temple
#

spoiler 2 is usually slower than spoiler 1

#

and if they wanna talk about the scan, they have to do it here

#

otherwise mass perma ban

autumn raptor
#

a real shame, the server ping and the giant discussion when the chapter dropped were amazing

#

now most people just chat whenever and I doubt that many people wait for viz

#

idk about you but the viz zolo irritates me so much

pseudo hazel
#

oh for sure

#

never been a fan of zolo

#

I love going to the one piece wiki and typing "Zolo" into the search bar and there are no suggestions

#

but it will bring up zoro when you hit search of course

autumn raptor
#

the funny thing is that they translated it that way to avoid copyright issues due to there being a book and film character with the same name

#

but on the tcg cards it's still zoro

slate nacelle
#

brook backstory gunna hit crazy style

rare shard
#

does anyone have a server where they send spoilers

autumn raptor
#

im interested if we're gonna see how he got the scar on his forehead in this flashback

pseudo hazel
#

doesn't help that he is known for using a sword as well lol

cobalt temple
autumn raptor
#

knowing oda it's likely it's a reference

pseudo hazel
#

it still cuts though, as he carves a Z on his victims

#

victim is a stong word tho as Zorro is a vigilante hero

eager fog
#

Three personalities mentioned

high knot
#

Well one was definitely Imu

autumn raptor
eager fog
#

A man’s theories never ends HappyBeard

pseudo hazel
#

yeah, it really is dead in here

#

everyone checked out because it's flashback time jk

autumn raptor
#

I hope it's at most 4 chapters

fiery phoenix
#

where is the chapter? is it out?

autumn raptor
#

tcb is out cant share due to server rules

fiery phoenix
#

sry what does tcb mean?

autumn raptor
#

tcb is a translator group, just googling should get you to the chapter tho

#

the chapters that used to be pinged were the tcb ones, they're by far the most popular fan translations

worthy tulip
fiery phoenix
#

its sad that i wont get a early ping from this discord due to them wanting to be safe. i understand ofc but that was one of the main reasons i joined

autumn raptor
#

yeah, I got into the habit of checking every few hours on thursdays and later, tho I found out 1183 was out thanks to a ytber I follow

#

his video popped up in my sub feed

#

shoutout to Syv, my favorite op tuber

red sinew
atomic vault
#

Where are people reading the chapter?

red sinew
#

I find out a chapter dropped now when the channels here have the funny numbers

autumn raptor
autumn raptor
atomic vault
#

I usually get the Reddit notification, that's why it was weird

wet wedge
#

Yo where's the link to the chapter?

autumn raptor
#

I got the mihon app on my phone with the tcb source but I have to refresh manually to get updates tho

autumn raptor
wet wedge
#

Np, I'll go check around on chrome

autumn raptor
dawn widget
#

wheres the mf chapter

autumn raptor
#

bruh

dawn widget
#

its saturday

wicked venture
#

it has been out yesterday

gilded rain
#

Hey can anyone tell me where i can read unofficial releases

wicked venture
tepid depot
wet wedge
#

This has to be ragebait

#

Why are we in flashback piece again??

#

Elbaph, the Land of Flashbacks

echo patio
#

lol

tepid depot
#

you don't want Brook's backstory?

wet wedge
#

I want it after the fight

#

Why are they edging meeee

wicked venture
#

because getting more info about characters is cool

tepid depot
#

fair ig

wicked venture
#

enlarging the world, getting connections

tepid depot
#

it's probably only gonna be 2 or 3 chapters long clueless

wet wedge
buoyant citrus
wet wedge
#

I'm just disappointed bc we went on break twice and I was hyped for Sanji and Zoro

#

But whatever... Maybe by July we'll be back

buoyant citrus
wicked venture
wet wedge
#

Atp I will just have to accept it

wet wedge
#

I feel better now that I've expressed my qualms

buoyant citrus
#

Shanks vs Luffy better not be interupted

wet wedge
#

It's a shounen manga afterall

buoyant citrus
#

Yeah

wet wedge
buoyant citrus
#

There hasnt been a proper fight in many chapters

wet wedge
wicked venture
wet wedge
#

Imu and Loki are just shooting lightning at each other

blazing sun
#

what do you think could be the 4th ancient weapon?.

here is my theory

pluton=hades=underworld->he is un the UNDERGROUND of wano

poseidon=lord of the seas->in water rn shirahoshi

Urano=god of sky->the weapon used by imu

so the 4th should be GEA=lord of the land->in a spot in the land (not undergroud not sky )

also in greece mytho gea started gigantomaquia.

and that could be the final battle in one piece

wet wedge
zenith vigil
#

I have a theory that Brook composed Bink's Sake
The song is old af, Brook is a musician, the song starts with Brook's laugh

wet wedge
#

Brook hasn't even done his laugh yet in the flashback

#

Imma go watch some reviews

cold haven
#

brook was a THUG in his youth

#

my GOD

zenith vigil
#

From YouTube comments:
"All that is nice, but the most important development of this chapter is the fact that Transponder Snails have a Do Not Disturb mode."

red sinew
azure cedar
carmine sierra
#

guys so like if esperia is 77 years back, and brook was 20 years old, that means currently he's 97, when he joined strawhats he was 88, that means 10 years have passed including timeskip??? im confused

hollow depot
#

It's 70 years ago

carmine sierra
#

yeahhhhh mbb

stoic crag
#

brook were MUCH stronger then i thought

charred furnace
#

is candel where brook gets his panty gag from?

charred stirrup
hollow depot
#

@stoic cragPlease don't post links here

stoic crag
#

oh

#

mb

hollow depot
#

It's alright, might wanna read the 2nd most recent post in #announcements

crystal ore
#

@stoic crag Bro the link was to a site full of ads that were probably malware

cobalt temple
ebon estuary
stoic crag
#

idek why is that a problem, he act like he saw ad for the first time

potent ingot
#

for anyone who has seen a japanese leak and knows japanese, was brooks line at the end literally just the "omae wa mo shinderu" (or however you spell it) that became such a meme?

torn bear
potent ingot
#

me too and it seems like an obvious reference, but wondering if thats just the translation or if the original also is an obvious reference

wise forge
#

wait i thought mu's colour scheme was gonna be revealed in 1183? or was that just a fake spoiler..

stoic crag
#

i mean there is as well a lot of youtuber did the chapters rewiew idk why discord havnt gave the chapter out. ive found like 3 site that as well have the english

charred stirrup
charred furnace
#

why are people re-evaluating brook strength after this chapter when he used one of his most basic moves to beat fodders

echo patio
#

relevancy and recency bias

stoic crag
charred furnace
#

its still just fodders

#

how is that impressive

stoic crag
#

I think he can kill people he's cutted beforehand whenever he wants, regardless of distance.

stoic crag
#

oh wait is it what called the raiders?

charred furnace
#

they are just mafia goons, they are not powerful

stoic crag
#

i didnt said anything bout their power

#

its not even matter

astral nebula
#

i think some people doesn't realize how strong strawhats really are like we always knew brook is strong enough to do things like that to average humans

#

like brook no diff don krieg for example

stoic crag
#

bruh i dont wanna say it but i think even usopp can beat don

#

he is a VERYYY WEAK person to compare

astral nebula
stoic crag
#

nahhh he aint doing shit

astral nebula
stoic crag
#

I SWEAR to u i was going to do same joke xDDDDDDDDDDDD

rain matrix
#

is the next chapter gonna relese tmw or next week

vernal verge
#

hopefully next week

stoic crag
#

oh he meant 1184

#

ye there is no break this week

leaden patrol
#

I think the Flash-back is gonnna end with Geko Moria taking over the island in his prime, he has to get into the story back because he seems important

vernal verge
#

Geko moria has been gone for far too long.

#

gotta bring him back

leaden patrol
leaden patrol
#

😫

vernal verge
stoic crag
#

so you guys think that they gonna show us the 20 years of flashback?

#

actually more, cuz moria is 50yo at current so let say he conquered that place in his 20 so they gonna show us 40 YEARS OF FLASHBACK?

astral nebula
#

the flashback lasts 3 chapters for me

#

maybe 4 but they return to present in that 4th

rough shell
#

67 years ago

stoic crag
severe sparrow
#

2026-7

wise horizon
severe sparrow
#

Also, Usopp is alive... Hooray!! 😐😐

severe sparrow
#

Seeing this worthless scoundrel acting so casually after the DEPLORABLE performance he's given throughout the ENTIRE Elbaf arc so far makes me furious.

Honestly, we've had the manga running for almost 30 consecutive years, Usopp doesn't deserve any sympathy anymore.

real drift
#

The rocks pirates bounties were revealed right?

#

Or no

ebon estuary
#

I don’t think so

night coral
#

We only saw rocks’s poster not bounty

restive finch
#

Brook has soo much aura man

jovial hornet
#

New chap released yet or na

tepid depot
#

you don't know how to check yourself?

stoic crag
tepid depot
#

?

stoic crag
#

do you know the answer of his question?

tepid depot
#

teach a man to ask for a day, he is only fed once, teach a man to check on his own, he is fed for a lifetime

#

(just check tcb)

stoic crag
trim parrot
#

Why don’t I have gif or image perms anymore 😭

last tinsel
#

FAAAHHH that was something!

indigo seal
#

i fucking love brook man

#

#1 brook fan

tired drift
indigo seal
#

brook>jinbei

whole meteor
#

brook d fraud

indigo seal
#

easily the least fraudulent strawhat

shut badge
#

😭 half the SHs just sitting around asking brook to tell him his story. robin is hiding away in the library, chopper is begging the giants to not save their kids. Luffy is still eating. Only sanji and zoro are doin anything

indigo seal
#

last time brook struggled was vs ryuma 💀

tired drift
#

I expected the flashback to show up after killingham and sommers was defeated, but I've been waiting for it

drowsy nebula
#

the monster trio and the weaklings

rocky valley
tired drift
hushed thistle
#

tommorow is when we might see coloured imu right?

tired drift
#

I have no idea

indigo seal
rocky valley
#

So he using this to give him more time to flesh that out

rocky valley
# tired drift headcanon, but maybe true

Of course it's headcannon, I doubt oda would ever elaborate that much into his writing process but suddenly shoehorning the brook flashback here does makes sense with the line of thought 🤔

#

I mean the whole narrative was shifted on loki vs imu, and the past. Super weird to shift it back on brook when Luffy seemed to be almost joining

undone moss
rocky valley
hollow depot
#

Remember in Drum when he cut to the Chopper flashback in the middle of Luffy punching Wapol?

restive finch
hollow depot
#

Like literally the middle as he was saying the attack name

#

Skypiea too

#

Dressrosa it was also in the middle or the conflict

#

Egghead too

indigo seal
#

well ryuma's body with brooks soul in it

rocky valley
#

Wapol fight didnt even start yet

undone moss
rocky valley
#

Starting the brook flashback hear is like to starting the oden flashback after luffy dies to kaido

indigo galleon
#

brook definitely related to the king

#

the way they talk so casually

drifting steeple
#

Related I don't think so but definitely good chums

hollow depot
rocky valley
# hollow depot

Hmmmm, fair fair. I was talking about the previous chapter with Kurehas word but this is true

real drift
past kelp
# hollow depot

I would say I am not happy about the falashback being here, but that is both because I didn't want it here period but also the burnout talking

real drift
molten tiger
#

Yeah, people forget that he's supposed to be jacked because Oda draws his characters in a very stylized way

hollow depot
hollow depot
hollow depot
#

Though this is the thing I was looking forward to the most in the entire arc so of couse I'm not gonna complain

molten tiger
#

It's the best timing possible actually, it couldn't have been any later

tired drift
red sinew
#

This happened to a guy at my school. He posted this in the class discord

#

The scam message

molten tiger
#

Sommers and Qilingham's resolution and their fights have been set in motion now, it was then Gunko's turn naturally

#

Resolving her storyline naturally required a flashback to happen right now

#

Loki v Imu is only the prelude to the big main event with Luffy anyways, we'll get back to it when its time for Luffy to step in

red sinew
#

Arsal stop they cannot understand basic storytelling structure

molten tiger
#

I feel like people deadass forgot that we've got a Gunko storyline to resolve judging by some of the reactions

#

Its like they seemed to believe that Imu v Loki would end, then Luffy v Imu would happen and end and then we could leave 😭

#

I saw someone say 5 chapters ago that the arc's ending in 5 chapters, with full confidence

hollow depot
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People weren't paying attention to the best character in the arc...

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Sommers

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Sommers is like #4 or #5

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molten tiger
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same w u rocks is goated

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Or One Piece fans cant read, I guess it's all 3

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The amount of people who said we didn't even need to see a flashback

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Crazy

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A take I saw fairly commonly was that she'd just return to Marie Geoise without anything else happening

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And yep, that too

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True

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No wonder they're caught off guard by a flashback, they somehow didn't even think it was happening

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I expected a flashback but not a dozen chapters only after the previous one and right in the midst of a fight against imu

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real drift
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Flashback should be like 3 or 4 chapters

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it should be longer imo

real drift
hollow depot
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its a brook+gunko flashback