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cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 2:19 AM

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i liked it 🙂

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 2:20 AM

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oh 😏

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 2:20 AM

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cinder flare i liked it 🙂

You only understand the joke because you have experience with the products, Matt has obviously never used them before

oblique heath Apr 12, 2021, 2:21 AM

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what does that say about you, who made the joke in the first place 😳

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 2:21 AM

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Who knows?

wind bolt Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 AM

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Hey I'm looking for java devs to join a team, also looking for alpha testers for an upcoming api and framework plugin, lmk if you're interested

pliant oak Apr 12, 2021, 6:24 AM

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i need help in mcpe server

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 6:38 AM

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ok

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:13 AM

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I'm on my way to school rn rip

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Oh btw, @hot hull guess what I added to Krypton's API yesterday

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ServicesManager + ServiceProvider

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:20 AM

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Damn

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So for my server I have made golems die as soon they get in lava and drop the ingots 1.3 blocks bellow. Would be a bad idea to try to put the ingots directly in the hopper underneeth lava, and if none was found to just drop it there?

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:27 AM

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Depends

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Putting it directly into the hopper means you never have to spawn items, meaning less lag

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:31 AM

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Ye thats what I thought as well

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Fucking hoppers man

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:32 AM

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Maybe even expand it to a radius of hoppers?

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that way like one hopper can cover a 3x3x3 area

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:32 AM

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Krypton will have good APIs for these things 😎

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NMN
No NMS needed

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:33 AM

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I thought about that but didnt had time to play with it, will probably do it next season

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:33 AM

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season?

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:34 AM

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Or, hmm

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:34 AM

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cinder flare season?

Ye we plan a wipe when 1.17 drops

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:34 AM

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ah nice same same

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what are you working on?

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:34 AM

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The server package for Krypton is org.kryptonmc.krypton, so ya know, no NMS

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:34 AM

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qol plugin or somethin?

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:34 AM

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jovial warren The server package for Krypton is org.kryptonmc.krypton, so ya know, no NMS

OKK

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:34 AM

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qol?

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:34 AM

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quality of life

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:35 AM

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Idk what that is xd

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:35 AM

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Lol

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:35 AM

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like just stuff that makes the game a little nicer

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like instakilling golems and vacuuming them to hoppers and stuff

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that sounds like minor helpful changes

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:35 AM

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Oh, yea

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Mostly to make the server run better tbh xd

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:36 AM

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ah yeah optimizations

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:36 AM

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Entities are killing us

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:36 AM

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is the math of like calculating a radius and stuff cheaper than spawning an item?

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I guess math can be done in like one cpu cycle but items cause a lot of problems with packets and stuff

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:37 AM

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Pretty sure, yes

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:37 AM

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distant sun Entities are killing us

😏

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Adding that to the list of things I need to make sure Krypton can do well lol

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 7:38 AM

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Progress!!

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:38 AM

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ooh don't forget tnt too

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:39 AM

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cinder flare ooh don't forget tnt too

Yeah I'll see what I can do about that lol

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 7:39 AM

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Nice yugi

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:39 AM

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That might be hard to optimise well

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 7:39 AM

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Now I need to setup some sort of score or something

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Have to present in class in an hour

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💀

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:40 AM

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nah you just delete the tnt entity and particles and stuff and do the block damage yourself

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the laggy part is the particles

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:40 AM

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I mean, idc if the client lags

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I'm just bothered if the server lags

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:41 AM

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oh does tnt really bother the server that much?

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:41 AM

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Enough TNT can crash a server

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:41 AM

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i mean I guess

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enough anything can crash a server

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:41 AM

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Yeah but TNT is known for being really poorly written

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 7:42 AM

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Force the server to only calculate a maximum of a set amount of block explosions per tick

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:42 AM

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That might work

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Or I could calculate them asynchronously and callback later

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:43 AM

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ah yeah that'd probably be best since messing with the max block explosions could mess up like tnt cannons and stuff

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then no krypton for faction servers :(

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:43 AM

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I doubt Krypton will run well on factions servers anyway

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:43 AM

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why not?

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 7:43 AM

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jovial warren Or I could calculate them asynchronously and callback later

That would just leave in unresponsiveness I assume?

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:43 AM

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Updates Star

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:44 AM

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what updates?

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:44 AM

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Block and entity updates

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Not sure how I'll even do block updates yet

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:44 AM

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I mean I'm sure you'll figure something out?

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:44 AM

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Maybe

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:44 AM

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I don't see why that disqualifies faction servers lol

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:45 AM

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1.8

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That'll be a big factor

cinder flare Apr 12, 2021, 7:45 AM

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There are some modern faction servers

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 7:45 AM

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bUt wE wANt 1.8 mEchAnICs

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1.8 PvP

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 8:56 AM

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Id play a rpg like factions

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With spells and such

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 9:11 AM

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im being bullied at my soccer club, but i dont want to tell my dad, what should i do?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 9:12 AM

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tell your mum

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or eat your soccer club

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 9:13 AM

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my mom doesnt give a shit

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 9:13 AM

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definitely try eating the club then

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 9:13 AM

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Start with the soccer field

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 9:13 AM

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work your way across

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might be worth avoiding the painted lines & goals

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they're not organic

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unhealthy

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 11:16 AM

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oof

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 11:30 AM

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any command lib for bungee?

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 11:31 AM

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idk: https://github.com/aikar/commands

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:33 AM

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onCommand (Sender, Command, [] String)

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:33 AM

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yo bm

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quickly join room 1

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:33 AM

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Hello

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Uh

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I'm at school

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:33 AM

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u don't need to speak

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just listen

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full volume at school

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 11:33 AM

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lmao

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:33 AM

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headphones for best experience

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:33 AM

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1 sec lemme finish lunch and I'll go into library with headphones

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:34 AM

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okie

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 11:34 AM

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its like 10 hours long so you've got time

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:35 AM

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Are you doing procedurally generated music or something

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:35 AM

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nah

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just fresh tunes

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honestly about to bust a groove this shit slaps

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it's british music too

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u might appreicate it

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:36 AM

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:o

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 11:40 AM

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prisma wave I'm at school

😂😂😂🤡

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:42 AM

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shut it

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:42 AM

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@prisma wave schools are open?

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 11:43 AM

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theyve been open since march

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:43 AM

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thonking

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:43 AM

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I mean you are on a island in the middle of no where so you would have your own rules so

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:43 AM

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what

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lmao

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:43 AM

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you on island middle of no where

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:43 AM

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bm did u recognise the song lol

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 11:43 AM

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isle of wight classes as mainland uk still

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:43 AM

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onyx loom isle of wight classes as mainland uk still

no

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:43 AM

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All shit british rap sounds the same

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Idk what the song name was

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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they're their own island now.

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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you posted the right one in #voice-talk

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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its not like guernsey ( 🤢 ) or jersey ( 🤮 )

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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what ya'll talkin about

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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Oh wait was it actually that lmao

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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yes

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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also what's #voice-talk

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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oh I thought it was similar

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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we're talking about my superior taste in music

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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it doesn't exist

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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very superior

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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it was bass boosted and 5000 volume

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:44 AM

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voice talk doesn't exist?

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:45 AM

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onyx loom its not like guernsey ( 🤢 ) or jersey ( 🤮 )

or the Isle of Man 🤢 🤢 🤣 🤮

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:45 AM

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u have to join a voice channel to see it

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:45 AM

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nope

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:45 AM

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lol

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:45 AM

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what was that noise

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:45 AM

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lol

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:45 AM

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yes..

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join a channel

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#voice-talk

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:45 AM

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that noise is worse than bm talking

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oh wait he never talks

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:45 AM

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thonking

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:45 AM

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untouched just join an empty channel and it'll show

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join room 2

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:46 AM

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i need ears ty

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:46 AM

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bots in room 1

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:47 AM

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🥲

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:47 AM

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dude i need ears

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your music is weird af

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oh btw bm pls help i need lawyer

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:47 AM

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i am lawyer i am good law man

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:47 AM

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a karen is trying to sue me

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:47 AM

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eat her family

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

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yes, i met a karen yesterday

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

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for what

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

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i "rode into her"

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

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"On what charges" as they say

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

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She jumped in the way of the e-scooter 😐

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

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how is she gonna sue you

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

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idfk

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

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did you give her your personal details or something?

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:48 AM

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you think i give out my personal details?

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you don't even know my discord name lol

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:49 AM

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ok mr mysterious

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:49 AM

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i think i know your discord name

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:49 AM

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i mean i just hate sharing details 🤷‍♂️

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less people know the better

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 11:49 AM

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prisma wave i think i know your discord name

i have a sneaking suspicion I might know it too

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would it happen to be

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"UntouchedOdin0"

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:49 AM

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no

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:50 AM

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I think you might be right

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:50 AM

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bm is secretly Barry#7877

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 11:50 AM

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thonking

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:50 AM

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neither of them ever talk

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btw bm pls update the plugin for me

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:52 AM

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pale shell you don't even know my discord name lol

what is a 'discord name'

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:52 AM

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half harness what is a 'discord name'

yes

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:53 AM

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❓

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:53 AM

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??

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:53 AM

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that wasn't a yes or no question..

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:53 AM

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oh wasn't it?

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:53 AM

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;-;

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what is a discord name

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:54 AM

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true?

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:54 AM

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how is this a yes or no question

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what does 'yes' mean in this

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:54 AM

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i didn't give a yes or no?????

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:54 AM

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i give up

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:55 AM

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why spigot take over a week to accept plugins

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:56 AM

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pale shell i didn't give a yes or no?????

true/false same thing

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okay

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heres another question

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what is your discord name

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or what is mine

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:56 AM

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String

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:56 AM

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what

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:57 AM

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?

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:57 AM

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what is a String

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 11:57 AM

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half harness what is your discord name

this

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:57 AM

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...

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 11:57 AM

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pale shell you don't even know my discord name lol

ur discord name is "String" thonking

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hM

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:07 PM

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damn thats crazy

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:13 PM

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I am so fucking mad

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:13 PM

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:c

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:13 PM

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im pretty much the first person into the library and get a nice seat + computer

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We have a FIRE DRILL

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And by the time I get back some smelly nerd has taken all of the seats

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And I have an essay due tomorrow

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Jfjriwjqbjffiwjab

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:15 PM

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🤡

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:15 PM

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i am about to commit a war crime

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:15 PM

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why did u not leave ur bag on ur seat tho

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:15 PM

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prisma wave And by the time I get back some smelly nerd has taken all of the seats

One person took all the seats?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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onyx loom why did u not leave ur bag on ur seat tho

literally asking to get your bag stolen

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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one person + others

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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nah

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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quiet depot literally asking to get your bag stolen

Yeah not worth the risk

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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Yeah leave your phone instead

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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sweet cipher One person took all the seats?

very obese

distant sun Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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why doesnt bungeecord plugins have a config like on spigot lol

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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what would u have in ur bag that someone would want to steal anyway

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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laptop

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although

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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mine is just full of books and thats it

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ew lpatops

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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if you're using a school computer

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u obviously don't have a laptop

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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onyx loom what would u have in ur bag that someone would want to steal anyway

Secret Haskell code

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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exactly pig

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 PM

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yeah I can't risk anyone seeing that

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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well

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there's also the q of weed you bought from the school dealer in the morning

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don't want the nerd getting a whiff of that

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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🥲

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:17 PM

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ofc

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he has fucked me over twice now

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A few months ago he asked a teacher to cover a lesson so our entire class had to stay in the whole day

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Could've gone home like 3 hours earlier otherwise

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:18 PM

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oof

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its ok atleast u can do the essay when u get home 🙂

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no matter how long it takes u 🙂

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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what's the essay on

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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There is always #827055634586271775

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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ah yes pay someone to do the essay

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:19 PM

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lol

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ill do it, 1 minute time guaranteed ✅ /s

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:20 PM

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Or #827055636109328384 “I will give you my essay to write for me” just like that guy offering to let you join his server lol.

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:20 PM

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we've had writers offer their services in here before

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:20 PM

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quiet depot what's the essay on

like segregation and stuff in the 60s and 70s

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:20 PM

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english or history?

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:21 PM

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Math

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:21 PM

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technically neither, a bit of both

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:21 PM

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imagine doing a non stem subject (excl compulsory english)

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:21 PM

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We've got a thing called the EPQ where you can basically research anything you want and write an essay on it, and it's an extra qualification

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Makes it easier to get into uni

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:21 PM

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Write an essay on the dangers of mutability

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:22 PM

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that is a good idea

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:22 PM

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write an essay on the dangers of immutability

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and propose a middle ground

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:22 PM

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there are no dangers 🙂

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:22 PM

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pff

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:22 PM

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Lol

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:23 PM

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immutable designs will use more memory

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little bit more processing power as ur always making new objects (maybe?, idk much about the internals)

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:23 PM

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Just use an SQL GC, problem solved

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:23 PM

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a bit

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modern compilers and CPUs come pretty close in terms of performance tho

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:24 PM

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ngl that sentence is not making any sense to me

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:24 PM

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i think

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:25 PM

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quiet depot little bit more processing power as ur always making new objects (maybe?, idk mu...

Easy fix: don’t use objects

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:25 PM

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how can you talk about immutability/mutability without objects

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even if they're not labelled as an object, with immutable stuff, you're still creating and disposing of the previous

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:25 PM

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wot

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oh right

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:26 PM

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Just don’t write code

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No memory taken up

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:26 PM

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i mean, is a byte array an "object"?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:26 PM

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ok

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bm there's so many definitions of object

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

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I object to that statement

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

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some people refer to instances as objects

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some people only refer to pojos as objects

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some people call every class an object

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

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yea i don't have a definitive answer

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

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What are pojos?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

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plain old java objects

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

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but like if you were coding in C or something would you still use the word "object"

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

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Oh

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

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pojos store stuff

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

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beans

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:27 PM

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but have absolutely no business logic

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Wdym by business logic?

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:28 PM

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actual functionality

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Oh

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:28 PM

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They're just data

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 12:28 PM

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quiet depot even if they're not labelled as an object, with immutable stuff, you're still cr...

Builders
https://reviewonline.co.za/wp-content/uploads/sites/68/2019/12/tenor.gif

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:28 PM

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Like the records thing in Java 16?

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:28 PM

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If you've used kotlin a data class

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Yes

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:29 PM

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fefo builders rely on storing the data in fields which are then disposed of once the object is built

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:29 PM

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And that's considering the fact I go to work everyday, and play atleast 3 hours of valorant

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:29 PM

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u know what would be cool

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if instead of java having fields and shit

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and variables

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:30 PM

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u disgust me frosty

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:30 PM

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i dont have wakatime but mine is probably like 25 hours

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:30 PM

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we just had a big unorganised pool of data

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:30 PM

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quiet depot u know what would be cool

Removing integers and just storing them in strings?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:30 PM

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and to get your values, you just had to loop thru the pool and look for what seems to be the right piece of data

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:30 PM

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Lol

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:30 PM

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Yikes Piggy

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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I got my seat back 🎉

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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Instead of displaying an error message, accidentally send a list of all passwords

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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@cinder flare hey remember the molecule thing we were talking about the other day

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that applies to what I just said

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one piece of data will always be where it was originally

EDIT: finally found out what it was called, brouwer's theorem

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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prisma wave I got my seat back 🎉

what did you do 👀

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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idk they just left

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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oop

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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he committed a war crime

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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metaphorically

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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prisma wave idk they just left

🤨

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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why not literally 😢

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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seems too good to be true

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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sweet cipher Instead of displaying an error message, accidentally send a list of all password...

Instead of accidentally displaying an error message, forward the server's user data to some Chinese organization and profit

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 12:31 PM

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quiet depot and to get your values, you just had to loop thru the pool and look for what see...

yeah just malloc(1 << 32);

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:32 PM

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hot hull Instead of accidentally displaying an error message, forward the server's user d...

That would work

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New idea for your bedwars plugin?

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 12:32 PM

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malloc(Integer.MAX_VALUE)

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:32 PM

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hey im making bedwars too 🥺

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:32 PM

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do you guys know the name of the phenomenom where when you mix something, at least one particle will always end up where it started

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i can't remember what it's called

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I might've got the description wrong

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:32 PM

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frosty is ur bw plugin os

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:32 PM

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A lazy particle

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Doesn’t even want to move

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:33 PM

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Good suggestion Fish

pallid gale Apr 12, 2021, 12:33 PM

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quiet depot do you guys know the name of the phenomenom where when you mix something, at lea...

believe you're referring to M.I.L.K

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:33 PM

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not sure about that one chief

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:33 PM

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half harness frosty is ur bw plugin os

90% of my decent projects are os

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:33 PM

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hot hull Good suggestion Fish

os bedwars

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i can't find it

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:33 PM

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Cause it's not on my GitHub

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:34 PM

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o

#

y

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:34 PM

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op65n org

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:34 PM

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Dkim why are you making a bedwars plugin?

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:34 PM

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He's making it for 1.8, so that doesn't even matter Fish

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:34 PM

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sweet cipher Dkim why are you making a bedwars plugin?

so that i dont have to pay for mvp++ in hypixel :)

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:34 PM

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Obviously Frosty’s will be better if they sell peoples data

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:34 PM

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half harness so that i dont have to pay for mvp++ in hypixel \:)

You need other people though right?

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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hot hull He's making it for 1.8, so that doesn't even matter Fish

Good point

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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rm rf the users pc somehow

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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ah

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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sweet cipher You need other people though right?

something called friends :p

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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i found it

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it's called brouwer's theorem

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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Every time someone joins hypixel send them to your server

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:35 PM

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wat

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frosty

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link the bw source

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i can't find

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Smh

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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If it’s just to play with your friends why not use one already made?

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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quiet depot it's called brouwer's theorem

im guessing this only applies in a closed system

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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https://github.com/op65n/Bedwars

GitHub

op65n/Bedwars

A 1.16+ Bedwars plugin. Contribute to op65n/Bedwars development by creating an account on GitHub.

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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sweet cipher If it’s just to play with your friends why not use one already made?

none that r like hypixel exists

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Watch his reaction when he sees I've done no work on it

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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A MONTH AGO

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Just download hypixel’s source code

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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29 days ago 🤡

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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mine > frosty

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Sockets be giving me a headache

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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Lol

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:36 PM

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hot hull Sockets be giving me a headache

y u using sockets

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:37 PM

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nice commits 👍

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:37 PM

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Does yours work through multiple machines?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:37 PM

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https://youtu.be/csInNn6pfT4?t=159 kaliber

YouTube

Vsauce

Fixed Points

My video on Sesame Studios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTjAiyyG2sw
The Curiosity Box by Vsauce: https://www.curiositybox.com/
LINKS TO SOURCES BELOW!

My twitter: https://twitter.com/tweetsauce
My instagram: https://www.instagram.com/electricpants
DONG: https://www.youtube.com/dong

Moon Museum:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Museum

E...

▶ Play video

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ez explanation

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:37 PM

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at least my commit names are better

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:37 PM

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That's the old one Kali

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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https://github.com/dkim19375/Bedwars 19 hours ago last committed 😤

GitHub

dkim19375/Bedwars

Contribute to dkim19375/Bedwars development by creating an account on GitHub.

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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My bedwars plugin is better

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

#

o

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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quiet depot https://youtu.be/csInNn6pfT4?t=159 kaliber

oh i see that makes more sense now

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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When you use kotlin and somehow manage to do stuff wrong

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Monkas

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 12:38 PM

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the way u worded at first sounded like a reaction or smth

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:39 PM

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half harness o

I don’t have one, but it’s better than 1.8

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:39 PM

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wdym

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 12:39 PM

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o

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:39 PM

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my bw plugin is 1.8 targeted because 1.16 has so many weird stuff

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like blocks disappearing if i place too much on a server with barely any plugins

sweet cipher Apr 12, 2021, 12:39 PM

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What

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:39 PM

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or its kb

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or blockhitting

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:40 PM

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sweet cipher What

makes ghost blocks if i place too fast (1.8 client)

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:40 PM

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You're an idot is my ez explanation

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:40 PM

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ok

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thats why i use 1.8 server

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:41 PM

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idot meaning more than stupid, less than an idiot

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 12:41 PM

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ok

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wat

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 12:41 PM

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Heh

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:01 PM

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:C

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:01 PM

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?

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:01 PM

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java 11

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fucking disgusting

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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use 16 then

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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Can't

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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You can

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As long as you have another jdk version installed

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:02 PM

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I mean yea I just need to compile to 11

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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i'm restricted to 11 😦

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because dcevm only supports 11 & 8 atm

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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dcevm?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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and fuck me there's no way I can live without dcevm

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hotswap stuff frosty

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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ew

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:03 PM

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Is Barry's Beats a ripoff of Rythm

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kek

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Yes

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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cube wanted a higher quality stream

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so decided to make his own bot

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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lmao

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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😮

#

OS this time?

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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stfu purple dude

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/s

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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no wtf

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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🥲

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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Ah yes because he listens to music once a year in VC

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big brain

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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quiet depot no wtf

Why not piggy?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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@pallid gale is p word os?

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idk

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:04 PM

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oh xD

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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p3nis?

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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if you make my role red I can do your chores

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(:

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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can u finish updating deluxechat for me

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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I can

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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lmao

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

#

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬜🌃⬜⬛⬛⬜🌃⬜
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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sus

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:05 PM

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static zealot ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬜🌃⬜⬛⬛⬜🌃⬜ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛ ⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛

cursed

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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lmaooo

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

#

oh wait

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

#

https://i.imgur.com/hUH5OMU.png

Imgur

#

this really is cursed

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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Is that supposed to be an enderman head?

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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yeah

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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lmao

pallid gale Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

#

quiet depot <@!161022752923320320> is p word os?

no

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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xD

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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wow

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

#

y not cube

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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what is p word

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lol

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:06 PM

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secret project that was started like a year ago

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

#

Penis?

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

#

p3nis

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

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😮

#

Papi3?

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xD

pallid gale Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

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beats might be if im nice enough

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

#

no lol

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not papi 3

#

papi 3 is very not secret

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I give access to source to most people who ask

pallid gale Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

#

theres basically nothing in the p word

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

#

Idk was jsut going off of the starting with 'p'

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lol

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

#

PP

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

#

quiet depot I give access to source to most people who ask

gimme gimme. BlitzOffline github username

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

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pig can i have access 🌚

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:07 PM

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pallid gale theres basically nothing in the p word

pp bot

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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blitz do you remember sex bot

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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yo funnycube =drama when?

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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=joke

compact perchBOT Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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Hey son,

Why can’t you hear a pterodactyl go to the bathroom? The p is silent.

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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forest pecan blitz do you remember sex bot

yes smiling_face_with_3_tears

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

thats already a thing right?

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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sad that he passed away

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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=drama

#

oh

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

🥲

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

I don't get that one Kali

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

=remindme test

compact perchBOT Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

Reminders | Invalid Args

Missing Quotes
Usage: =remindme <time> "<message>"
eg. =remindme in 5 hours "to feed the Llama"

#

Reminders | Invalid Args

Missing Quotes
Usage: =remindme <time> "<message>"
eg. =remindme in 5 hours "to feed the Llama"

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

=remindme 5h test

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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old wyvern thats already a thing right?

nah

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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O.o

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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hot hull I don't get that one Kali

idiot

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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Ayy

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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peeing

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

idot

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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pissing

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

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I got remindme perms

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xD

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

urinating

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

its silent haha funny xd

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

=xp lb

compact perchBOT Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

XP Leaderboard:

See even more top users through the online leaderboard.

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

The fuck

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:08 PM

#

lmao

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:09 PM

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=remindme in 1 seconds to "remind myself to remind myself"

compact perchBOT Apr 12, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

New Reminder Set!

In 0 seconds:

remind myself to remind myself

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

hahaha when you forget to join a writing conference and reschedule but then your teacher forgets it

pallid gale Apr 12, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

static zealot yo funnycube =drama when?

get gabby to pr it

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

🥲

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:09 PM

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pallid gale get gabby to pr it

why gaby?

pallid gale Apr 12, 2021, 1:09 PM

#

or lemmo

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cause they have access to the repo

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

#

https://drama.essentialsx.net/

Spigot Drama Generator

Trending on Twitter!

Songoda.com adds assets to Towny for Hacktoberfest, causing adf.ly on Incendo

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sjUGLRwtyA

YouTube

Chezburger

It Was Me Barry Full Monologue

I saw the Lola bunny one and i had to combine the two.

The Original: https://twitter.com/nemuidesuokami/st...

Lola Bunny Original Tweet:
https://twitter.com/on_verbs/status/1...
Voiced Version:
https://twitter.com/ViewtifulVal/stat...
Viewtiful Val: https://twitter.com/ViewtifulVal/
Lip-synced Version:
https://twitter.com/KaiserNeko/status....

▶ Play video

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

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👁️

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

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blitz u already had access I think

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

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oh really?

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link?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

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https://github.com/PlaceholderAPI/PlaceholderAPI3

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

#

oh I did

#

oh lmao

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 1:10 PM

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pog ty pig

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:43 PM

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I'm waiting for someone to finish the expansions :kek:

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 1:46 PM

#

u

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:50 PM

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hah you thought

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:51 PM

#

frosty im working on it rn

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

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=remindme

compact perchBOT Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

#

Reminders | Invalid Tier

You need to be at least Tier V in order to set reminders!

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

#

WHAT

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

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oh wow, stealing my work Piggy

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

#

Kind of a start ig 🙂

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

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That's gonna be a lawsuit

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

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Altho I assume that class wont execute anymore

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

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I'm miles off the next tier smh

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

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What are we looking at Yugi

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

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runtime class relocation

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:52 PM

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wym stealing ur work

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:53 PM

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frosty make a dmca!

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/s

pale shell Apr 12, 2021, 1:53 PM

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piggy stealing work again? (whatever the /s is)

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 1:53 PM

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quiet depot wym stealing ur work

stealing stuff for me to do, eventually

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 1:54 PM

#

Its mostly similar to luck's jar relocator, just needed some minor changes

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 1:54 PM

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oh lol

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 1:54 PM

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lmao luck

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 2:24 PM

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yo in kotlin is there really no way to declare a short other than doing Int.toShort()? Bcz I've tried 0S, 0s and none work

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 2:25 PM

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doesnt look it for short

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just float and long i think

wind bolt Apr 12, 2021, 2:30 PM

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F

#

L

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 2:32 PM

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ty. Just wanted to make sure bcz I couldn't find anything on google

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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@quiet depot So what's up with that dchat offer huh

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 2:42 PM

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wasn't a real offer

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sorry

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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wow, scam

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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admin scam!

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ban!

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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triumph chat better anyways <o/

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 2:43 PM

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dictatorship!

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 2:58 PM

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static zealot yo in kotlin is there really no way to declare a short other than doing `Int.toS...

val short: Short = 0

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 2:58 PM

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yeah I know that works too but was looking for 0s

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but its fine

#

I've used : Short

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 2:58 PM

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yeah Kotlin sucks when it comes to working with anything other than integers and longs

#

bytes, characters and shorts are just neglected

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 2:59 PM

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why you even need a short tho

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 2:59 PM

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shorts are good for saving memory

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you take up 2 memory addresses instead of 4

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though that's not such an issue these days anyway

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 3:00 PM

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are we poor or smth?

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exactly

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just get 1tb of ram 4head

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Well

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Not always

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Stack aligned jvm

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You only benefit with them in the heap

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:00 PM

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also, imagine if you want to store several thousand 16-bit values

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 3:00 PM

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So fields or arrays

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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jovial warren shorts are good for saving memory

Most of the times short will get promoted to int

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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you would use twice the amount of memory with integers than you would with shorts

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Local variable shorts dont save memory

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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ocean quartz Most of the times short will get promoted to int

unless you're in Kotlin lol

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🥲

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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Are you sure about that? Isn't that a JVM thing?

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:01 PM

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the only promotion that Kotlin does for you is integer <-> long iirc

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:02 PM

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ocean quartz Are you sure about that? Isn't that a JVM thing?

yeah but the compiler needs to allow for it

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 3:02 PM

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No bard

#

I think he just means the issue with the stack

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Shorts take up the same size as ints on the stack

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32 bits

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:02 PM

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like in the language's design, the compiler won't just let you shift an integer by a byte and assume the runtime will promote it Matt

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:05 PM

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jovial warren yeah Kotlin sucks when it comes to working with anything other than integers and...

excuse me???

#

having to (short) 0 🙂

#

every.single.time.you.need.a.short.literal

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:06 PM

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can't you just do short number = 0;?

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:06 PM

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nope

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:07 PM

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no way Java doesn't allow that

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:07 PM

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because byte alignment and all that shit

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:07 PM

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tf does byte alignment have to do with this? shorts are 16 bit

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that's two memory addresses exactly for most computers that allocate 8 bits per memory address

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:09 PM

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iirc it boils down to the jvm using 32 bits or whatever so you have to explicitly narrow cast

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:10 PM

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jovial warren can't you just do `short number = 0;`?

actually it does let you do that, you can't pass a literal to a method that takes a short

#

so instead of
func(123) you have to either
func((short) 123) or

func(value);```

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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yeah

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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which is stupid af still

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:11 PM

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I mean, still better than Kotlin where there's 0 promotion

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and where Int is the only type that bit shift infix functions exist for

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so to do bit shifts you are forced to convert everything to integers

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:12 PM

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well I mean, in Java if I were to do var number = 0 it would assume int tho so...

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:12 PM

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actually, Int and Long have the bitwise operators

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:12 PM

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in both cases to declare a variable you have to specify the type

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:13 PM

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so you end up with ```kotlin
val long = 1L
val byte: Byte = 0
val short: Short = 3
val int = 7

((((long.toInt() shr 4) or byte.toInt()) and short.toInt()) xor int)

#

man, Kotlin needs bitwise operators so badly

#

since infix precedence sucks ass for bitwise

#

e.g. 3 shr 4 or 5 shr 8 or 6 != (3 shr 4) or (5 shr 8) or 6

#

or maybe in that case it seems to be

#

https://i.imgur.com/KedsxCg.png there we go

Imgur

#

found an inconsistency

#

and in Java, that gives me 107, which is the correct one, since shifts take precedence over ors

#

and if I set variables and print the value at every step, we see that in the top example, the first one does 88 >> 99, then takes the value of that and does (88 >> 99) | 66, etc. etc. until we're left with (((88 >> 99) | 66) >> 33) | 99

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:29 PM

#

what do people use to code lua

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 3:34 PM

#

jovial warren that's two memory addresses exactly for most computers that allocate 8 bits per ...

since when have memory addresses been 8 bits

#

afaik you can't even have anything less than 64 bits on a 64 bit cpu

#

Cuz word length and stuff

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:35 PM

#

memory addresses are always at least 8 bits in size, no matter the CPU

#

they could be larger ofc

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 3:35 PM

#

Well... Yeah

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:35 PM

#

and they are always some number of bytes

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 3:36 PM

#

but on a CPU made in the past century they're gonna be at least 32 or 64

#

On the topic, F# has about 30 different number literal suffixes and they're great

#

let unsignedByte = 32uy
``` :nerd: :open_mouth: :tired_face: :drooling_face: :sunglasses:

#

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/fsharp/language-reference/literals

Literals - F#

Learn about the literal types in the F# programming language.

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 3:42 PM

#

lmao

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

I kinda feel bad for lucyy

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

huh?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

who that

#

and why u feel bad

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

She's a person in the spigot discord

#

you prolly wouldnt know

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

I know of her

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

what happened to her

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

she made the pronoun expansion

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 3:49 PM

#

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/im-off-now-see-ya.499912/

#

She left and moved away from spigot

#

left the discord too at spigot

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 3:51 PM

#

Was hoping that blog link would be a rickroll

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:51 PM

#

#694661573125472256 message just temporarily pasting this here so I can click it because its tryna open discord in browser

#

lol

#

that guy is a troll

#

old news

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:52 PM

#

Yeah it was cause of the toxicity and also other reasons
classic

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 3:52 PM

#

Nah a lot of polish ppl are like that

#

not all

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:52 PM

#

literally the single reason I don't check that server anymore

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 3:52 PM

#

the spigot discord is a reliable and friendly source of information

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 3:52 PM

#

lol

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:54 PM

#

so

#

what's the consensus on polymart

#

good or bad

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 3:54 PM

#

neutral

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:55 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ

YouTube

leetag

Neutral Response

No strong feelings one way or the other

▶ Play video

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 3:55 PM

#

It's neutral yeah
They have a very anti-opensource goal
With built in features for strict licensing and all sorts of stuff

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:55 PM

#

quiet depot what's the consensus on polymart

sounds like the cheapo ass chinese walmart I'd go to the parking lot to buy cocaine lol

forest pecan Apr 12, 2021, 3:55 PM

#

i wish people who open markets can actually be god damn "normal" man

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 3:55 PM

#

hangar when

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

SOON™️

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

🥲

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

me and glare were having a little talk about hangar in #papi

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

wheres my papi role

#

i promise ive contributed

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

ocean quartz It's neutral yeah They have a very anti-opensource goal With built in features f...

Oh in that case bad

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

and will

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

i'm personally still very conflicted about their decision to not support premiums

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

i reckon it should pig

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

I'd like to see hangar succeed

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 3:56 PM

#

but freemium only ofc fingerguns

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

but I just can't imagine that happening without premiums

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

Yeah same

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

I think they're making a huge mistake

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

free download paid support cursed_fingerguns

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

yeah that's what glare said

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

I mean don't get me wrong, I'm all in for that

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

but that won't work

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

How would that work though?

#

Having the discord link behind a paywall? lol

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

But if you want to have premium software.. yeah

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:57 PM

#

yes matt, that's precisely how it'd work

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 3:58 PM

#

the only incentive to move would be premiums so

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 3:58 PM

#

jovial warren tf does byte alignment have to do with this? shorts are 16 bit

Word alignment, 32 bit words on jvm stack

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 3:58 PM

#

Not having them at all seems dumb

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:58 PM

#

yeah there's literally no reason to move to hangar at this point (or in any hypothetical point in the future where it's completed to the current specification)

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:58 PM

#

yeah because it ain't done yet

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 3:58 PM

#

fuck spigot

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 3:59 PM

#

wew donald trump yesterday and logan paul today

#

this server is popping off

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:59 PM

#

fuck chestcommands

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 3:59 PM

#

fuck this im moving to the clojure community

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 3:59 PM

#

oh god no

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 3:59 PM

#

lets go clojure!

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 3:59 PM

#

Hangar will allow freemium apparently

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 3:59 PM

#

quiet depot wew donald trump yesterday and logan paul today

You missed, the other day it was the entire gang, Obama, Trump, Putin

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 PM

#

just they want a requirement for open-source

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 PM

#

jovial warren Hangar will allow freemium apparently

no

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 PM

#

ocean quartz You missed, the other day it was the entire gang, Obama, Trump, Putin

Biden too

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 PM

#

yes

#

MiniDigger said

#

I can pull it up

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 PM

#

when

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 PM

#

recently

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 PM

#

pull it out 😏

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 PM

#

like end of last month

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 PM

#

well I've got more recent information from glare

#

from today

#

he said hangar will have no paypalls

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 4:00 PM

#

Bardy, what he said was the same as Glare said I think, paid support only

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 4:01 PM

#

That wouldn't even work

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:01 PM

#

#746367733699969104 message

#

yeah no paywalls, they want to emphasise payment for support, not for products

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:01 PM

#

I don't believe he said hangar would actually have the support paywall on the site

#

he kinda phrased it like you'd manage it on ur own

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 4:01 PM

#

no paywall tho

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:02 PM

#

hot hull That wouldn't even work

it won't

#

because you've got servers like this one which give support for everything for free

#

apart from our own premiums of course

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 4:03 PM

#

Plus I can imagine the amount of reviews "0 stars, i was refused support"
On spigot you know all reviewers actually paid for it, while the ones that downloaded it for free can't review

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:04 PM

#

does hangar even have reviews?

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 4:04 PM

#

Actually not sure

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

haahah wait what :kekw:

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

Looking at Ore, doesn't seems like it, only stars

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:05 PM

#

yeah

#

doesn't seem those stars are linked to github

frail glade Apr 12, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

There might be reviews. Kinda like a discussion board. I don't recall if there's been official word on that yet.

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

well I like this ore star thing

#

you guys should just stick to that

#

although make it hook into github

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 4:06 PM

#

Yeah agree

frail glade Apr 12, 2021, 4:07 PM

#

I'm pretty sure they plan to do stars. I can check the API

#

"stats": {
        "views": 13,
        "downloads": 0,
        "recentViews": 13,
        "recentDownloads": 0,
        "stars": 0,
        "watchers": 0
      },

#

Yeah it has stars.

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:08 PM

#

what format is that?

#

sorry

#

what uses that format

#

or is that just a mockup

#

what the fuck am I even saying

#

I thought it was one of those api template generator thingos at first but now I can see it's literally just a json result

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 4:09 PM

#

Can someone send me a utility class for transforming seconds into a nicer string, (1min 30sec, etc)

ocean quartz Apr 12, 2021, 4:09 PM

#

Oh god, i'd send you the one in CitizensCMD but that thing is a mess

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:09 PM

#

this is the one I have in papi 3

#

https://paste.helpch.at/jeloxolere.java

#

idek if I made that or not

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 4:10 PM

#

Yes that, that's made by Gaby I believe

#

bruh I've been looking in like 30 repos for that smh

#

Didn't remember it was from papi

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:10 PM

#

you wouldn't have found it in papi 3

#

it's under my testing environment

#

that's not pushed

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 4:10 PM

#

I would have, cause I used it in the expansion

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:10 PM

#

oh is it actually live

#

thought it was only in my test

#

oh for fucks sake

#

my expansion submodules were on master instead of 3.0.0

#

was wondering why there was no code

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 4:13 PM

#

lmao

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:20 PM

#

obtuse gale haahah wait what :kekw:

you know Hangar is a fork of Ore right?

hot hull Apr 12, 2021, 4:20 PM

#

Iron or Coal ore?

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:20 PM

#

well, it's a somewhat fork of Ore

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:20 PM

#

hot hull Iron or Coal ore?

Sponge Ore

#

lol

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:21 PM

#

jovial warren you know Hangar is a fork of Ore right?

now i do

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:22 PM

#

lol fair enough

#

debating whether I should add the MIT header to every file of Krypton

#

like a lot of other projects do

#

or maybe just make a header note

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:29 PM

#

yes

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:33 PM

#

maybe just ```kotlin
/**

Use of this software is governed by the MIT license. You can find out more information in the LICENSE file in the project root.
*/

#

like what Kotlin has

#

or should I include the full header

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:34 PM

#

IJ can generate it afaik

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:34 PM

#

there's this gradle plugin I use

#

uh

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:34 PM

#

old wyvern IJ can generate it afaik

really?

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:34 PM

#

I think so

#

Havent used it, but I remember seeing a toolbar a few times

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

yeah ij has a feature for this, but the sponge gradle licenser plugin should be preferred

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

Ah

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

that's neat

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

obtuse gale there's this gradle plugin I use

Indra can do it I think

#

Indra is developed and used by Kyori

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

Indra

#

Lol

#

Who named that

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

what is indra

#

link

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

God

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:35 PM

#

https://github.com/KyoriPowered/indra

GitHub

KyoriPowered/indra

A set of Gradle plugins to apply common organization build settings. - KyoriPowered/indra

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:36 PM

#

God of heaven or something

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:36 PM

#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra is this what you're referencing?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:36 PM

#

indra uses the sponge licenser behind the scenes

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:36 PM

#

ah right

#

sneaky

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:37 PM

#

well looks like it's not owned by sponge (was it ever or am I pulling shit out of my ass)

#

(to continue on with the parentheses, I know it was originally made by minecrell, then he handed it onto someone)

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:37 PM

#

minecrell?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:37 PM

#

(I thought he gave it to sponge)

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:37 PM

#

yeah

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:38 PM

#

https://github.com/hierynomus/license-gradle-plugin

GitHub

hierynomus/license-gradle-plugin

Manage your license(s). Contribute to hierynomus/license-gradle-plugin development by creating an account on GitHub.

#

This?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:38 PM

#

no

#

https://github.com/CadixDev/licenser

GitHub

CadixDev/licenser

A simple license header manager for Gradle. Contribute to CadixDev/licenser development by creating an account on GitHub.

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:38 PM

#

I might just manually apply it tbh lol

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:39 PM

#

old wyvern https://github.com/hierynomus/license-gradle-plugin

I use that one

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:39 PM

#

Ah

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:39 PM

#

unless these plugins can do it for me just as well

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:39 PM

#

papi 3 uses the minecrell one (the one I linked) so if you want a quick easy example, just look at papi 3

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:39 PM

#

oh btw, gonna start working on documentation for Krypton server

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

#

jovial warren unless these plugins can do it for me just as well

will your main priority when you create a new class be to paste the license header..?

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

#

😂

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

#

maybe, idk

#

it's if I remember

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

#

you'll probably even forget about it

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

#

oh I forget about a lot of things

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

#

hi

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

#

"but licensing ain't one of them"

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

#

Does each class actually require the license?

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

#

I forgot to build my services manager addition last night to test it so it failed because I didn't implement it in KryptonServer

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:40 PM

#

Does the repo license not hold for every file in the repo?

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:41 PM

#

old wyvern Does each class actually require the license?

I just apply them to every java file lol

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:41 PM

#

old wyvern Does the repo license not hold for every file in the repo?

wdym?

#

you should have it for every file

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:41 PM

#

Having a general LICENSE file

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:41 PM

#

that kinda holds, but what if you're depending on it?

#

then you have to go digging through the GitHub to find out what the license is

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:41 PM

#

Depending on what?

#

Its just in the root of the repo

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

if you depend on a library, you don't get the license bundled with it

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

Whats there to search for

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

no but you may need to search for the repo

#

and it may not always be the first Google result

#

or use GitHub

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

jovial warren you should have it for every file

I mean... build scripts, resource files, project files.

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

it may use one of those spesh 90's things

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

Wouldnt you already have the repo before you added the dependencies?

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

obtuse gale I mean... build scripts, resource files, project files.

yeah ik

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

old wyvern Wouldnt you already have the repo before you added the dependencies?

not necessarily

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

I know no project that does that bardy

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

Most probably thats the case bardy

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

obtuse gale I know no project that does that bardy

maybe just project files? or not at all?

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

You dont bring out a artifactid and groupid from thin air

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

I mean, all I kinda need is a really simple header that says who the copyright holder is and where to find licensing information

#

that's it

#

that's why I think JetBrains' header for Kotlin is sufficient

#

namely, ```
/*

Copyright 2010-2020 JetBrains s.r.o. and Kotlin Programming Language contributors.
Use of this source code is governed by the Apache 2.0 license that can be found in the license/LICENSE.txt file.
*/

#

or in my case, ```
/*

Use of this source code is governed by the MIT license. More information can be found in the LICENSE file in the root of this project.
*/

#

that seems sufficient

#

maybe add a link to the MIT license on opensource.org

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:50 PM

#

jovial warren maybe just project files? or not at all?

I think it depends from license to license? ASL 2.0 states

Each source file should include the following license header

but MIT says

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 4:52 PM

#

yo is there anyone that can open MC 1.15.2 for a sec and help me test something?

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 4:52 PM

#

1.15.2 :what:

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:52 PM

#

obtuse gale I think it depends from license to license? ASL 2.0 states > Each __source file_...

what counts as substantial portions?

fleet bayBOT Apr 12, 2021, 4:52 PM

#

:x2: You have to be in a voice channel to use this command.

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:52 PM

#

what te fuck

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 4:53 PM

#

onyx loom 1.15.2 :what:

testing something xD

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 4:53 PM

#

I typed /sh to shrug lol

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 4:53 PM

#

also @onyx loom I just noticed that I never pushed the build.gradle for CombatStats lmao.

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 4:53 PM

#

🌚

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 4:53 PM

#

and also you don't need to shade adventure

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 4:53 PM

#

its fine

#

shading it for < 1.16.5 support

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

it aautomatically shades itself

#

you don't need to use shadow jar

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

static zealot yo is there anyone that can open MC 1.15.2 for a sec and help me test something?

#!/bin/bash

[[ -z "$STY" ]] && { echo "You are not in a screen"; exit 1; }

oldsum=$(md5sum paperclip.jar | awk '{print $1}')
newsum=$(curl -s 'https://papermc.io/ci/job/Paper/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/paperclip.jar/*fingerprint*/' | ~/go/bin/pup '.md5sum json{}' | jq '.[0].text' -r | awk '{print $2}')

if [[ "$oldsum" != "$newsum" ]]; then
  wget https://papermc.io/ci/job/Paper/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/paperclip.jar -O paperclip.jar
fi

{ while pgrep java | xargs -l -i readlink -f /proc/{}/cwd | grep -m 1 hub; do sleep 1; done; screen -S hubmc -X stuff "java $@ -Xmx1G -jar paperclip.jar\n"; } &
```ez

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

what

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

like matt's config does

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

actually that won't work any more unfortunately

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

idk what that is

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

what

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

jovial warren ```bash #!/bin/bash [[ -z "$STY" ]] && { echo "You are not in a screen"; exit 1...

huh? xD

onyx loom Apr 12, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

what u need 1.15 for

#

im on

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

that's a script that automatically downloads and runs Paper when it's ran

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

So what's this Emacs lark and why should I use it

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

BM

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

prisma wave So what's this Emacs lark and why should I use it

Emacs is a text editor from what I've seen

static zealot Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

onyx loom what u need 1.15 for

well I don't need 1.15 exactly I just tested adventure on 1.15.2 bcz of rgb and am to lazy to switch lmao.

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

Emacs

#

Ah yes

#

The

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

jovial warren Emacs is a text editor from what I've seen

I know that much lol

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

seems like it's very useful for LISP dialects

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

.el

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

Emacs Lisp ☹️

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

you shouldn't use it

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

half harness BM

Hello

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

prisma wave Emacs Lisp ☹️

🥲

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

prisma wave Hello

bm how do i do repeat in haskell

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

our emacs enthusiast iwanio yesterday said he was seriously considering switching to sublime after trying it out

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

quiet depot you shouldn't use it

Iwanio and Johnny use it so

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

The glory of elara, stolen

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

half harness bm how do i do repeat in haskell

wdym repeat

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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so yeah

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emacs

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no go

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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like print "hi" 10 times

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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just use sublime

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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half harness bm how do i do repeat in haskell

joemama :: ["hello world"]

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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ah

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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What exactly is emacs?

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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jovial warren `joemama :: ["hello world"]`

-_-

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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A text editor?

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A language?

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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like vim or nano

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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replicateM from Control.Monad is the easiest way

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Oh

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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it's a cli text editor

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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prisma wave replicateM from Control.Monad is the easiest way

uh

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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But if you're talking about my challenge then the idea was to do it yourself

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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I see

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 4:56 PM

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prisma wave But if you're talking about my challenge then the idea was to do it yourself

yea how do i do it?

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Recursion

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Keep a count

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Recurse with +1

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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but there are no variables

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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I'm eating rn so can't make pseudocode

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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wait

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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oh

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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I thought it was a cli editor

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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wait what?

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Yeah so you use recursion instead

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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You dont loop dkim

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Haskell has no variables?

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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You recurse

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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but I'm looking at pictures on google images now and i'm not sure it is a cli editor

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:57 PM

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jovial warren Haskell has no variables?

Immutable binding

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You cant rebind a "variable"

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:58 PM

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quiet depot but I'm looking at pictures on google images now and i'm not sure it is a cli ed...

yeah it's not from what I can see

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https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/images/teaser.png

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:58 PM

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that would break referential transparency

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:58 PM

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this medium article ranks it next to nano & vi https://medium.com/linode-cube/emacs-nano-or-vim-choose-your-terminal-based-text-editor-wisely-8f3826c92a68

Medium

Emacs, Nano, or Vim: Choose your Terminal-Based Text Editor Wisely

The opinions expressed herein are not representative of Linode, its staff, or even the author on some days. All attempts at Internet…

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but then you've got pics like that

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so i'm really confused

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I think it is a cli editor

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:59 PM

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vim all the way for text editing

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:59 PM

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idk what those pics are

jovial warren Apr 12, 2021, 4:59 PM

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anyone who writes Java in vim though

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 4:59 PM

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perhaps graphical wrappers around emacs

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Then again, seeing that <- is a shorthand in do blocks in haskell, I assume let bindings are as well

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Compiler probably inlines them

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 5:04 PM

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half harness yea how do i do it?

loop a b 
            |  a <= 0 = []
            | otherwise = b : loop (a - 1) b

This should work

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Altho yes, you should just use replicateM

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 5:05 PM

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uh

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haskell confusing

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 5:05 PM

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@jovial warren GNU GPL 3.0

... attach the following notices to the program.  It is safest
to attach them to the start of each source file to most effectively
state the exclusion of warranty; and each file should have at least
the "copyright" line and a pointer to where the full notice is found.

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 5:05 PM

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What part of that confuses you dkim?

obtuse gale Apr 12, 2021, 5:05 PM

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2 out of 3 explicitly state "source file"

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 5:05 PM

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Should I explain the snippet?

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 5:05 PM

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old wyvern What part of that confuses you dkim?

all of it

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 5:05 PM

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old wyvern Should I explain the snippet?

yes pls

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im still haskell noob

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you have to remember that

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 5:06 PM

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old wyvern Compiler probably inlines them

Pretty sure it does yes

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 5:06 PM

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old wyvern ```haskell loop a b | a <= 0 = [] | otherwise = b : lo...

[IO ()] 😩

half harness Apr 12, 2021, 5:07 PM

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haskell is so confusing

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why am i doing this to myself 😫

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 5:07 PM

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Ok first of all, we have 2 guards, 1 for when a is 0 or less, the other handles the non 0 case

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In the non zero case

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We evaluate the current head as the result of b

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And then append that to another list, this list being another recursive calk to loop with a reduced by 1

prisma wave Apr 12, 2021, 5:08 PM

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half harness haskell is so confusing

Tbf there's like 5 new concepts in just those 2 lines

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 5:09 PM

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okie nerds

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how do you guys rekon I should handle this part of the papi 3 api

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when replacing placeholders via PlaceholderAPI#replacePlaceholders, we currently return a string, however a string isn't all that useful as lots of other things can happen. Errors can happen for example, and I need a way to signal to the api user that this has happened. There's really two approaches I can see here. We can either throw unchecked exceptions (like the one from integer#parseint), or return a result object with the result code & data string (either an error message or the replaced string)

Such an error could be when there isn't a direct match for a placeholder expansion, but a close match. For example, they may have inputted %playe_name%, I need a way to signal that they probably meant "player"

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 5:09 PM

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This keeps on going till the first case hits

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Where it returns an empty list to stop the recursion

old wyvern Apr 12, 2021, 5:10 PM

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quiet depot when replacing placeholders via PlaceholderAPI#replacePlaceholders, we currently...

Components coming?

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😳

quiet depot Apr 12, 2021, 5:10 PM

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editing the msg with all the info