the-future

[reef lodge]

I can ignore them, just like I can ignore the entire storyline (Story in a game is like a....) but I think trying to give everything a canon reason can make people overthink little details. How is Doomguy playing DOOM in DOOM Eternal in the Fortress of Doom while fighting impending doom....

Isn't Hugo known for saying stupid shit? I would not take his word as fact in any scenario

[solar crown]

well the entire mancave you have to basically disregard for any story discussion considering it just breaks things repeatedly with references lol

[solar crown]

"hugo says" was a pretty big meme when the server was more aliver (and hugo still streamed)

[keen quest]

It's the only thing we got. I say usually bcs most fans (including m0no) use Hugo as a basis for several lore assumptions

The idea the photo on the floor of his mancave is his wife is widely accepted as Canon, despite that being from a Hugo stream

[solar crown]

"i don't care what he says about primevals, they're stupid and it STILL doesn't make sense"

[keen quest]

I think the primevals make sense

[reef lodge]

Me personally I don't care for shit Hugo says, nor do I care for shit Romero or Hall say, (not because I disregard the storyline btw) I am not a theorist in any way so it's not really my thing to say but my take on it is that Hugo should rarely ever be listened to

[keen quest]

Personally i just like to think the doom slayer is just a dude

He's just a dude who likes playing video games, rabbits and eating shit food

[solar crown]

a military dude to be specific

[keen quest]

That doesn't matter

He's a dude.

[reef lodge]

He is also a magnet for bizarre storytelling

[solar crown]

well no the underlying "upper world" just is

[reef lodge]

He as a whole is written weirdly

[keen quest]

He plays DnD, he reads classical (albeit doomified) literature, he likes his guns, and he probably likes his mother

[reef lodge]

All of DOOM 64 contradicts with the modern story

[keen quest]

That's one of the few doom games I can't play, what causes the issues?

[reef lodge]

The story is basically that he is mentally unstable and traumatised from the previous games but still has to go through another invasion

[keen quest]

Oh that just sounds like trauma

Weird thing w trauma, it can often force you to seek out the experience again

[solar crown]

well considering how the sentinels found him... yeah makes sense

[reef lodge]

Unless the divinity machine had some therapist in it I doubt he just shook it off

[keen quest]

I personally believe that Samur gave him therapy 💀

"Now how'd that make you feel"

">:["

[reef lodge]

TDA might do in-depth into this which would make an interesting Ranger-like story
But... it's a DOOM game... so...

[keen quest]

If I don't see my wives samur maykr or the khan maykr in TDA I might cry

[solar crown]

samur only fucked off after the divinity machine so who knows

[reef lodge]

If they bring back the Unmaykr over the Unmaker I will riot

[keen quest]

Give my boy some therapy flashbacks

[solar crown]

i just hopet he game will be balanced, moreso then eternal even

canonize his relation with Deag Ranak ❤️‍🔥

[keen quest]

Also if I don't see that man become the sweatiest, most filthy man possible I will throw someone

[reef lodge]

Whenever someone says the full names of the Deags I get reminded of WhatsApp

I would give context but I think it's funnier without it

[solar crown]

what's more manlier then topping another man?

[keen quest]

LET HIM BE A WARRIOR. LET HIM HAVE BAD PHYSICAL HYGIENE.

[keen quest]

Oh girl he's a raging bottom.

[solar crown]

good enough

[keen quest]

Look at him. He's the guy who cries afterwards.

[reef lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/backawayslowly-awkward-gif-9584750

[keen quest]

Alright then. Keep ur secrets magic man.

[solar crown]

and no way these people straight
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890909009526267935/1330916988704395305/image.png?ex=678fb889&is=678e6709&hm=a31bd464c714df25f475cdb0f78e0db36fe3f2531c580363c674c83c5a2ffa62&

[keen quest]

WHAT

sitting here hoping it was just observing the slayer after the divinity machine

[solar crown]

he has more hand on experience to call it just "observance"

[keen quest]

STOP 😭

Shit don't make me laugh dawg it's 2 in the morning

[midnight grove]

No its 9:11 rn

[keen quest]

I'm Australian.

We got different timezones

[midnight grove]

Oh yeah forgot

[solar crown]

didn't stop them either

[keen quest]

STOP.

[solar crown]

depending on how they did it that probably did stop them

[keen quest]

Someone gotta get me some sleeping meds I can't deal w this shit at 2am

[midnight grove]

He had total power over the cultists

[keen quest]

I have housemates I can't laugh too loud

[midnight grove]

Ranak worked briefly with Olivia pierce at the mars facility

[keen quest]

Do not bring Olivia up

I fucking love her

[midnight grove]

Ok crossed the line got it

[keen quest]

She reminds me of a lesbian aunt who has been to gaol for assault

[keen quest]

No, you can bring her up, I just go feral over her

[midnight grove]

Like ranak

[keen quest]

It gets so bad

Running around on all fours foaming at the mouth type feral

Which I'd love to do, but my legs be fucked up so I can't do that irl

I've even made a oc for her bcs I fully believe that Olivia Pierce is a raging lesbian

So I made her a wife :]

[midnight grove]

She looks like a lesbian

Until she turns into a giant spider robot

[solar crown]

you've not been to the right places

[midnight grove]

I’ve been in plenty wrong places in my 14 years of life

[flat fable]

Oof

[thin frost]

oh it will, TDA will be the most story focused doom has ever been, based on hugo martin's words

[north stream]

as long as it doesn't hurt the gameplay, I don't care

[mint plinth]

I wonder what that really means.

[solar crown]

How would it "hurt the gameplay"

[midnight grove]

Probably won’t hurt gameplay but might make the cutscenes drag on for too long

[solar crown]

They have found out what the skip button is now so it won't be as bad as 2016

[midnight grove]

Good point

[north stream]

several factors, but mainly

• Focus too much on the story and too little on the gameplay during development
• They decided to go back to 2016 unskippable cutscenes
• They stop the game too often with cutscenes

Do I think any of that will happen? Eh, no.

[solar crown]

the first one is highly unlikely, considering story department and gameplay department are different

[north stream]

Yeah, true

[midnight grove]

They couldave given more money to the story department and not enough to the gameplay

[solar crown]

microsoft could give not enough funding?

[midnight grove]

They could be prioritizing different games like a new halo game

[solar crown]

i don't think you really comprehend how ungodly rich their gaming department is

[reef lodge]

Microsoft has been cutting costs a lot

[midnight grove]

But dark ages is probably going to be fine

[reef lodge]

Even down to stopping manufacturing in certain countries (including mine)

But I don't think they'd damage TDA for a patheticly low cost

[midnight grove]

The gaming industry is one of the biggest industries currently so they probably think of stuff like this

[craggy sigil]

I have uno question: Is there any information about limited edition doom: The Dark Ages???

[midnight grove]

Not yet

[crisp otter]

Not yet

I would love a Slayer action figure though

[flat fable]

Doom the dark ages collector edition has a 12" figure

[feral plover]

12 inches?

I have just the perfect place to store it

[ruby horizon]

what now

elaborate @feral plover

[feral plover]

Classified

A forbidden shelf if you will

[solar crown]

"celebrate Shadow of the erdtree with 18 inches of messmer" 🤤

same thing as rake

[vale maple]

Are we in the future?

[crisp otter]

Damn and I only have a steam account

[flat fable]

You can order it for pc

Doom the dark ages won't have multiplayer

[craggy sigil]

I BOUGHT IT

COLLECTORS EDITION

RIP & TEAR

[crisp otter]

I already have a copy but the collector edition won’t hurt

[craggy sigil]

soo u have 2 new dooms purchased? one for pc and one for console orrr

[crisp otter]

The same game for pc I would have

[craggy sigil]

noice

[flat fable]

I may buy collectors

If the game is uncharacteristically buggy at launch, I still got cool stuff to look st

I dunno why I said uncharacteristically...it's Bethesda

[crisp otter]

Is it the premium edition?

[flat fable]

Comes with the premium edition

Collector's edition does

[crisp otter]

And got it

[hoary pumice]

Would doom TDA be on gamepass core? Doom eternal was on gamepass core after a while, so will that also be implied for the dark ages too?

[bitter vault]

After TDA I feel like a online based doom game could be intresting if done right

[elder viper]

If there gonna make a new online game just make a new Quake

[bitter vault]

True!!!

[peak quail]

doom tda will be the cure to my r6s addiction

[celest lark]

anyone else feel like the new glory kill system seems more interactive than brutal? something about the deep dive glory kills just didn't sit with me

[peak jetty]

Honestly I seem to be in the minority that I actually am SO happy with the new glory kill mechanics

The animations were cool, but having it for the third game in the row would've felt tiring. Also, why have three melee weapons if you just have to watch an animation for it?

So me personally, I'm pumped about it, but that's just me

[flat fable]

Technically two

The gauntlet feels like an evolution of blood punch

[opaque pecan]

I'm of two minds. I like the flashy viscera and short breather from the action. But I also wanna be able to be in and out fast.

[crimson valley]

Daisy will get avenged

[rotund spruce]

Como está muchachoa

[sinful pebble]

Possible new Wolfenstein in like 4 years?

[quick harness]

Todo bien, vos?

[rotund spruce]

Si causar

[crisp otter]

Theme park for doom

[feral plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1334054884533866529/1334646721455849636/GIF_20250130_140842_362.gif?ex=679d4a1e&is=679bf89e&hm=85df0529d07cea93b3e69544ffc8564bb04bc056e9737a6323360833bdce90c7&

[atomic jacinth]

Quick question if in the doom dlc you kill the big hell guy and that kills all the demons how is dark ages gonna happen?

[elder viper]

Dark Ages takes place before DOOM Eternal

it's a prequel to DOOM 2016

[elder viper]

Ah I see

[winter nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/oops-shocked-seriously-omg-tremors3-gif-22329296

[atomic jacinth]

Well the other was more active so I'd get a answer faster so :/

[flat fable]

Hey

[feral plover]

doom the dark ages will sell 100 doomillion copies

[ornate vessel]

Before 2016 or like before Doom 93?

[fresh elk]

93?

[elder viper]

If your talking about when the game takes place it takes place before 2016

[feral plover]

Looking forward to the hugo martin streams with joshua boyle

[vagrant bronze]

Takes place after doom 64, before 2016. Read the sentinel history codex entrees, its that era.

[ornate vessel]

Ah perfect! Thanks.

[vagrant bronze]

Supposedly it should take place after doom's induction into the sentinel armies, but before the sentinels turned on the maykrs, as the siege of taras nabad seems to have been shown in the overview

[carmine grotto]

Probably for the best. It was gonna be either a Quake Style deathmatch MP or that really weird Battlemode-like stuff (which I hated)

[flat fable]

Ye

[thin frost]

i pray to god we get a doomguy action figure by sh figuarts or amazing yamaguchi someday

[sturdy fox]

Both of those guys would make AMAZING figs

[thin frost]

am i the only who thinks that if they answered what happened to doomguy between D16 and eternal with "samuel hayden just sent him to hell" it would be really disappointing?
like everyone knows that's not going to work be more original

[winter nexus]

The Doom Eternal streams?

Not sure I watched all of those, they were just so long, I figured I could be playing the game myself in the time I was watching, although there was some interesting jewels of information dropped by Hugo.

[feral plover]

Hugo drops bits of lore here and there

Thats what im looking forward to most

[winter nexus]

The problem is that he's also been known to make lore mistakes, probably just spontaneously making something up on the spot.

[wild shell]

I really hope they do Quake reboot next. I don't want ID to just be 'The Doom company'.

Modernize Quake. it doesn't ned a glorykill system (that would kind of be retreadind Doom) but have some neat gimmick that works. Quake was like gothic horror, maybe a 'santity' system of sorts.

[elder viper]

I mean... it's the only place Hayden could have sent him

[reef lodge]

I hope so too, it's kind of their only option besides another DOOM. Wolfenstein has its own developer set in stone, Heretic/Hexen is too niche to return to, and RAGE had horrible reviews, both of them. At least we just got a new Quake with id's involvement 3 years ago (QC left early access) but I'd like a new singleplayer campaign

[tiny robin]

More than likely they'll probably bring back Quake. Maybe for the games anniversary

[nova portal]

As much as I love the new doom games (They are some of my favorite games of all time) I just hope the story ends soon because I'm worried it'll end up just dragging out 😦 I think it would be cool if after TDA they go back to current time and have maybe one more game with some dlc and then leave doom on a good final stopping point. I think it would be cool if at the end of the story the slayer was able to find some sort of peace, I know he probably has some now after TAG2 but theres still a lot that needs to be wrapped up and I think the slayer is pretty pissed off even more after what happened. I don't want it to be exactly like God of War but I think it would be cool to do something like that with the Slayer. Maybe the story could still end as him being the protector of earth and he still keeps watch over hell to make sure nothing bad happens but he can do it while at peace and the story ends with that. Idk if I'm cooking with this but I think it would be a good way to end the story and for ID to move onto other games 🤔

[mint plinth]

id take more doom games for as long as i live

[reef lodge]

Do one game for each of their other FPS IPs, then go for another DOOM

[elder viper]

Idk if this is true so take it with a grain of salt but I heard that there next game after Dark Ages won’t be Doom related

Not to say Dark Ages will be the last but hopefully they take a break and do something different after Dark Ages

Whether it be a reboot of another franchise if there’s or an entirely new IP

[solar crown]

considering it's just about the gameplay, they could abandon doom and we wouldn't really lose much

[tiny robin]

Knowing the iconic-ness of DOOM it'll prob won't die

[elder viper]

End the series sure but id Software (and really Bethesda) wouldn’t abandon Doom.

It’s like if Bethesda decided to stop making Elder Scrolls and Fallout stuff or if Activision decided to stop making CoD games

[solar crown]

Don't forget the boogeyman even further up: microsoft

But i'm sure that if ID made an FPS with quality in it and it gets properly marketed, including with "from the makers of doom" it'll still score high because of the gameplay itself being fantastic

Basically a bit more well-made rage 2

[reef lodge]

Basically what RAGE did and it has horrible reviews

I enjoyed it a lot personally but I'm just weird like that

[solar crown]

Wasn't rage2's biggest crime being semi open world actually lol

The vehicle sections just looked so... meh to me

[reef lodge]

Eh, I remember RAGE 2's open world in itself was praised bt it was considered quite ugly. They've improved that with further updates

I can see why someone can dislike RAGE 1's hub wold though (not even an open world)

I dunno if they'll pull a new IP after how bad RAGE flopped, but I don't really see anywhere else for them to go, other than Quake

[solar crown]

The doom franchise itself doesn't really provide anything spectacular the studio can't replace with something else gameplaywise though

Aslong as they don't pidgeonhole themselves with having a setting that can only support bland enemies, but that's not a real concern

[reef lodge]

I think they'll be looking at it from the standpoint of branding. Sure it's an id game, but it's not gonna be a DOOM game, that will hurt sales too

[solar crown]

Gotta keep fueling the corporate overlords

Then again there's a bethesda union iirc so maybe they have some nice leverage

[crisp otter]

Well doom will still continue it just won’t be the only game the devs make

Street Fighter is to Capcom as doom will be to id

[solar crown]

Capcom isn't 1 studio though right, it's the publisher that has multiple studios

[crisp otter]

They do make games

But that is besides the point

[solar crown]

Yeah because it has multiple teams working under it

[inland heath]

Quake when

[tulip scaffold]

Quake:Rivals when?
Arachnid vs Mech. Enforcer vs Sarge. Tank commander vs... actual tank.

[mint plinth]

Wolf when

Rage when

Hexen when

[reef lodge]

Obviously we need another Orcs & Elves

[woeful sonnet]

Does anybody know what the next event is going to be in 15 days

[reef lodge]

You mean for Eternal? Spring Mega Event

[feral plover]

I wonder which skins I could get then

Wonder if Ember skin will be free again, I don't want to spend more money on a skin (after I already spend some as an experiment on the skin pack with the lux shotgun... ngl that shotgun skin is neat)

[reef lodge]

Nothing that isn't in the Spring, Summer, Fall or Winter events is returning; sorry. Game's buried 5ft too deep for that

[feral plover]

welp

In either case, I'm excited to see what there'll be

[feral plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1334054884533866529/1342668901309354004/20250221_172626.jpg?ex=67ba795b&is=67b927db&hm=97c55d0993787df68e1fcf8c47bf10ee25092624306c0f78e65556d95ca77ce6&

They are inching closer to that lovecraftian themed doom with this

[elder viper]

everything but a Quake 1 reboot 😔

[feral plover]

5 years later

"Rumored reboot of an iconic fps franchise from id software to be announced at next month's xbox games showcase" 🗣🔥

[elder viper]

goty 2030

[reef lodge]

Orcs & Elves

[quasi summit]

Do u think there will be artificial humans walking among us in the future ?

[rose crow]

Yes

[nimble loom]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-amogus-red-sus-sus-sussy-gif-20532175

[feral plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/769176247527407619/1343911393048530974/IMG_0448.png?ex=67befe84&is=67bdad04&hm=0b07b14753ee55bdeafa0ddfb82e3d41ae72c26d35066be3e155aa5a5ffcb881&

What could this mean

[opaque plover]

?? send the link to the post

[nimble loom]

It means quakecon 2025

[mint plinth]

probably a date later this week. It usually comes in March

eep nevermind, date was already announced

[opaque plover]

quake 4 nightdive remaster announced at quakecon this year, trust me (<- desperate)

[mint plinth]

if they do that, i hope it comes with a new campaign

like lost levels style thing

[strong pivot]

I think Q4 had expansions? I can’t remember

[opaque plover]

quake 4 was supposed to have an expansion (awakening) but that got canceled

[mint plinth]

maybe they bring that back.

[foggy seal]

Would be awesome

Modern Q4 release with same treatment as quake 1 and 2

[nimble loom]

They could actually give it an ending this time

[ocean sonnet]

Is that from Dark Ages? I’d love a Doom with lovecraftian horrors like Cthulhu, Nyarlathotep, yog sototh etc. maybe slap in some innsmouth residents/ cult of Dagon etc. and make it more like a combination of Eternal and D3

[hardy snow]

in the future, doomslayer dies

[strong pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[nimble loom]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-expiration-date-we-are-going-to-live-forever-tf2soldier-gif-27129544

[foggy seal]

Doom Eternal sequel is definitely going in the lovecraftian direction

[summer sapphire]

wait were getting a sequel?

[foggy seal]

Extremely likely, maybe like by 2029-2030

It also aligns with lots of things Hugo said after Eternal

[covert skiff]

could samual mayker return

[foggy seal]

i think you meant samur maykr, but definitely not impossible, especially since he's not dead after TAG1 and is currently transforming into an eldritch monster

[strong pivot]

You know what would be cool?

An Ultra-Nightmare mode that functioned like a roguelike

As in when you die, you get a perk or something cool to help you on your next UN run

Maybe someone made a mod with that already, I have no idea 🤷‍♂️

[feral plover]

https://tenor.com/view/nsfw-gif-13558086492240433240

[elder viper]

Hope we get a Quake reboot that’s Lovecraftian instead

[foggy seal]

yeah, but looking at how Quake's being treated I'm honestly not sure if it will receive same treatment as Wolfenstein and Doom, not to mention Doom has been treading Quake grounds really deep lately

[nimble loom]

He isnt dead

I dont see why not

[covert skiff]

if he would to return he would probably still try to avenge the fathers soul sphere again

[feral plover]

Hey Guys

[distant bison]

Hey Guys

[untold pumice]

i saw a thing saying that id studios wanted quake reboot but they said “no” so they just made it doom then accidentally ended up with an entirely different game but there will be some quake references in TDA

such as weapons (double barrel accelerator looks like super nail gun, then a nail gun mod for the impaler)

strogg-lookin enemy type

[iron belfry]

doom halo crossover when

[reef lodge]

Almost happened

[reef lodge]

Well @mint plinth you got your wish for a new Hexen

[mint plinth]

what do you mean

[reef lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1264691484293070889/1345778611583451257/GlBmdIOWAAA2Lle.png?ex=67c5c980&is=67c47800&hm=01c6c94f6307b670d41e1b9558c602fddf7f21b1473bf800cfc03d30deb4d19f&

This is the only screenshot I could find online, but it will suffice. Basically Activision is making AI generated advertisements for potential game ideas to see if the public would like to see them come to fruition, and a new Hexen game is one of those concepts they shared

[mint plinth]

yah that doens' tlook real to me. and "in app purchases" points to a shitty mobile game

I really only trust id or machine games to make a hexen game

[reef lodge]

At least they have interest in reviving this

I wouldn't want it as a mobile game though

[mint plinth]

better NO game than a mobile game

[reef lodge]

Make it an Ouya exclusive!

[mint plinth]

well if its true, that w/o ids next game being hexen, so quake, more doom or something new

[reef lodge]

Don't forget RAGE

[mint plinth]

Rage 3 probably much further out, esp with avalance going poof

[reef lodge]

Honestly I wouldn't get my hopes up about a new Hexen. Companies love to make concepts for games, share them online to see what the public thinks, then never follow up on them. Only saw one product release this way and it was cancelled in its soft launch period. Activision also put out a concept for a new Crash Bandicoot party game

[reef lodge]

Eh, Avalanche being gone isn't much of an issue tbh. RAGE hasn't had an established developer yet

[tired flax]

Is there any that know if you can use cheat code in wolfstone 3-d in wolfenstein 2?

[waxen minnow]

I have an idea for a glory kill system in future doom games

Non lethal glory kills, the slayer will rip a limb off using the new gibb system and the demon will scream on the floor for a while until dying, during this the slayer can attack other demons, this would be able to be turned off in the settings

[north stream]

I’d honestly prefer if they ditched the GK system in future games

Or work on a different IP

[elder viper]

this just sounds like normal glory kills

but longer

[waxen minnow]

It's what the doom slayer would want, to prolong there suffering

[woven siren]

...not really but ig if u want him to be like that then sure

[reef lodge]

I think if you're in battle you want to take out your enemies swiftly do not have to deal with them. One limb less won't take out a whole demon, and one more demon to "play" with increases your chance of dying

[crisp falcon]

Idk if this fits here. But I got curious and started wondering if the Switch port of the Doom games could see a performance boost on switch 2.

I think they're locked to 30 fps but is it possible they'd end up with a smooth 30 fps?

[shell carbon]

maybe

[crisp falcon]

I kinda like the charm of the muddy graphics of 2016 and eternals switch ports. But I hope to see them run consistently. 😅

[elder viper]

The Switch 2 is supposed to be on par with a PS4 so I really hope games that needed to be brought down to 30FPS get a sort of next gen update

One game that comes to mind is Pokémon Scarlet and Violet, that game would benefit from a next gen update

[crisp falcon]

The fun of outstretched rescources.... --;

[elder viper]

and the games suffer as a result 😔

Scarlet and Violet is fun it just would benefit if it wasn’t on the Switch

[crisp falcon]

It needed a better organization of scope

At its core they want to focus on the competitive aspects. But they added an open world to it. --;

[elder viper]

I hope Legends Z-A is different it the trailer graphically has me worried. Gameplay looks fun though

[crisp falcon]

Graphically I think it's fine.

Assuming the scope is kept in check I think the frame rate will stay steady, and the less open ended locations should mean less needs to render.

[nimble loom]

They went too far with this one

[winter nexus]

So apparently TDAs storyline will be open-ended, not connecting directly to 2016, to allow for more potential DLC content.

[tulip scaffold]

It would be cool if we got a classic episode connecting 2016 with eternal

[feral plover]

It was never going to connect to 2016. 2016 happens billions of years after TDA.

[muted bridge]

But they did say that it leads into the 2016 slayers testaments

So we might not see the tower drop, but if we don't fight the champion titan, imma riot

[feral plover]

Yes, and those begin with the Slayer rampaging across Hell after Argent D'Nur's fall. The sarcophagus thing doesn't happen until the end of it.
I doubt we'll see anything from the Testaments beyond maybe the beginning.

[muted bridge]

What about the titan

[muted bridge]

The champion titan tho?

[feral plover]

Probably not, IMO - that happens long after Argent D'Nur falls.

[muted bridge]

What about dlc

I saw him jump on some giant green thing near the end of the direct

That looks like a huge titan, just saying

[tulip scaffold]

Just from the trailer, there were lots of environments teased.
That purple realm with pirate ships looks cool. We are going to new places for sure.

[glass cove]

I really don't get anyone that keeps mentioning the "billions of years" thing...

Yeah I get that the time flow may be different in hell vs earth and whatever.

Yeah I get that the slayer is strong, but he was a human at first.

Yeah I get that the Wraiths are powerful

But where do you get this nonsense of billions of years? How do you literally live that much time? What about the Sentinels? What kind of beings are they?

Like is it really that much time between all games? This is likely the only thing that bothers me about DOOM games

[tulip scaffold]

I'm guessing from the codex. In the first age...

[muted bridge]

Yeah I'm not too sure about it either, they can't do a timeskip or smt?

[thin frost]

a crossover with spawn or hellboy would be the coolest mf thing

[meager maple]

Doom armor skin in fallout?

[feral plover]

The "billions of years" thing comes from some basic facts about Hell the Codex has shown us.

Mainly:

1. The Slayer has been present in Hell for the vast majority of its "modern" (post-Davoth) history. From the First Age to the Fourth Age.
2. This history is said to span eons.

Therefore the Slayer has been alive for eons. This doesn't even have to involve Earth time or whatever, it's irrelevant since all this time is spent before Doomguy ever sets foot on the Earth or Mars we see in 2016 and Eternal.

Like it's simply, the Slayer's been around for most of Hell's history and said history spans a very long time. Therefore his lifespan is also very long.

[timid thistle]

Yep, ding ding ding. I thought it was only a century

[keen lichen]

The future

[feral plover]

In the future

There will be more doom game

[heady quest]

[spring heart]

[feral plover]

the future is outdated

[split sparrow]

[quick thorn]

The Future: DOOM: Light mode
Then DOOM: System theme

[primal heart]

[echo grove]

[earnest kestrel]

[valid oxide]

End is coming 😈

[tepid ruin]

DOOM 4

[simple zodiac]

there will be doom the dark ages 3

the Future

[ember crystal]

Doom: the dark ages 2

medieval boogaloo

[simple zodiac]

that's a sick name

[tepid ruin]

a doom coop game would be badass

[gentle epoch]

DOOM 3025, inspired by the classic doom the dark ages games

[wise scroll]

A doom 1 remastered with rtx and better lighting, 3d enemies

[reef lodge]

Never 🙏

[north stream]

Not to be a dick but this would look horrible

That one Doom 2 mod that does that exact thing is a prime example imo

[wise scroll]

Okay

[reef lodge]

If we're approaching this territory I think a full-on remake would work better... not necessarily a good option either though

[muted bridge]

We don't need a remake, we don't want it, that would be like the disney remakes, why watch lion king 2019 when you can watch the og?

Or snow white

Even dreamworks and their httyd remake

uneeded and not innovative

[reef lodge]

Half-Life didn't need a remake and it got an amazing one. There's nothing causing quality loss just because of it being a remake. Issue is DOOM doesn't translate well to a remake

[muted bridge]

I didn't consider half-life but usually they end bad in this day and age and especially won't work for classic doom as the maps themselves are already abstract

[mint plinth]

id be fine with a classic doom remake. Because more doom. How it would play though, Doomguy is just a superhuman in a powersuit, not the slayer

but it would be funny if you could move at 60mph

also, that would be alot of levels all redesigned, 27 levels for classic, another 30 for doom 2

might be better make a phobos and deimos "sandbox" where you can go back and forth bewteen facilities, metroid prime esq style

keycard clearence would be one method of progression, opening up new areas in earlier parts of the game

[keen quest]

So doom but metroidvania

... I'd love that lowkey

[slender frigate]

Doom the dark ages 22 (2567)

[simple zodiac]

Doom 69 launch date reveal?

[elder viper]

https://youtu.be/mCigiEuRvrA?si=sZ-yPXG4mAJRFL8L

[wise scroll]

Now I understand...

[maiden herald]

unrelated but i love your pfp

the trans cacodemon

[keen quest]

Transcaco is wonderful

[maiden herald]

real real

[woven siren]

tracodemon

[sage rose]

I miss Mighty Doom, am I crazy for hoping it'll come back?

[tranquil kettle]

Hi, I'm thinking of buying the DLC for DOOM ETERNAL and ONE AND TWO, but I don't know which of the Steam offers is better. I only want to play the story mode and not the multiplayer. Could you tell me which one is better?

[elder viper]

The Deluxe Edition comes with both DLC parts

[solar crown]

If you already have the basegame, then the Year One pass contains both the dlc (since they both came out in the first year.) It should be a bit cheaper then buying them seperately.

Multiplayer is included with every individual part of the game.

[cursive obsidian]

nah, I want it too for some reason

[reef lodge]

A comeback is pretty much impossible

[cursive obsidian]

[hardy snow]

guys check my name

[woven siren]

real and true

fact-checked by real jekkadian patriots

[cursive obsidian]

it sucks. There I told the truth

[fast goblet]

Your name sould be illegal

[kind swift]

Actual time Traveler

[sweet stag]

1 year until dark ages guys

I'm so excited

[crude heath]

This new game needs to have the ability to shoot the Crucible out of a bow

[woven siren]

this new game needs to have the ability to romance the mancubus

[nocturne sage]

cursed and fricking truth...

[thin frost]

in the doom eternal sequel, doom 3 guy should be the one to wake up the doom slayer

[prime elm]

Realized I should have posted this here instead of general but I just thought of something, what if in the future when they do a sequel to eternal, it's taking place inside of Doomslayers head, like a dream or something. He may have defeated the demons from hell, but now he has to face the worst demons of them all: the ones residing inside of his own mind

[reef lodge]

Didn't Postal already do that?

[prime elm]

... I've never seen or interacted with postal content so uhhhh idk

[daring lion]

yeah yer thinking of Postal: Brain Damaged
from what I hear it's pretty good though obviously postal-themed so if you don't vibe with the postal series it might not be for you (might be on the more mainstream end of the vibes though?)

Check it out if it sounds interesting and you're also over 16 lol

[keen quest]

Postal brain damaged is great.

It's just postal.

[daring lion]

postal themed boomer shooter
I'm waiting to catch up/better sale than usual to nab it

[keen quest]

I love it, very fun.

Still feels like postal, yknow

[daring lion]

would love to see more takes on it, for some reason when I think of it (haven't seen much of the game tbh) I just default the image to postal dude in the hospital fit meathooking around the milkman conspiracy from psychonauts 1

feels like a good way to see into the mind and mental state of a character (though not as thorough as psychonauts does it lol)

and doomguy's mind and mental state do intrigue me

[keen quest]

That's deadass how it feels to play brain damaged 😭

[slender frigate]

The ancient god part three

[elder torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/frump-gif-10637205210135848563

[elder torrent]

Ancient gods 3 gameplay

[slender frigate]

The ancient god part three (2028)

[nimble loom]

I dont think the timelines line up

[thin frost]

doom 3 is an alternative universe so that really ain't an issue

[fleet canyon]

bro, if there’s ever a doom game after dark ages, they need to add a daisy statue in the collector’s edition

[keen quest]

We already have a daisy thing 😭

[prime elm]

Do y'all think they will do a game set between 2016 and eternal eventually? Where did Doomslayer get teleported off to in the end of 2016? How did he get access to the Fortress of Doom? How did Samuel get all wrecked up? (If yall already know what happened I'm sorry I'm like 3 weeks into playing the games so I'm pretty new to the games and story still)

[solar crown]

I don't think a full game will be it

Unles MS really wants to wring the series out of every last drop

[solar crown]

Also samual being destroyrd in ARC base is explained in the level: he charged into demon lines eith the crucible

[reef lodge]

Maybe in 30 years when we get DOOM Eternal: Unmaykr Edition for PS11 they'll include an expansion pack with content about that

[prime elm]

Ah crap I must of missed that or just forgot lol

[novel trellis]

prob a dlc or smth

[wintry haven]

its so over.

[mint plinth]

next doom game when?

[elder viper]

soon

[vocal meadow]

doom tomorrow

[feral plover]

Id promised corresponding dlc, comic, then lore book, then …. Nothing.

Deal with it. Gap between 2016 and eternal will remain empty. Grim.

[tulip scaffold]

If I can get back into mapping I might try my hand at such an episode. I've got a few ideas, but would really like to revamp classic gameplay.

[north stream]

probably better to put this in the game's respective modding channel tbh

[tulip scaffold]

It's just a thought

[north stream]

Y'can tell me the ideas if you want, though. I could bounce some back.

[flat fable]

Lol

[crisp otter]

My guess is the franchise will be on hold after dark ages, ending the revival era, what the fourth era will be, I do not know

[sweet stag]

The community era will come.

[crisp otter]

Well i guess it’s story time

I was at the college and i was hoping to get a coke or a cherry coke

The vending was broken so i went upstairs to anither broken vending

Turns out all but one vending was broken

Eventually i went to the student lounge getting ready for my drc meeting

I ended up in the weong building and as it turns out, the first machine I tried it on

WAS THE ONLY VENDING WORKING

Long story short i went to 8 different vending machines and the first was was the only one not broken

Moral of the story: i got a cherry coke

[crisp hemlock]

Yo wsg

Haven't seen you in awhile

[crisp otter]

Eyyy

[winter nexus]

When are you going to change your avatar to TDA's circumcised cacodemon?

[vale maple]

I predict that Tomorrow,the world won't end

[tawdry kettle]

The future tells me a doom 2 rpg remaster is coming soon

[crisp hemlock]

The future tells you well

[tulip scaffold]

The next doom game will take place during WW2 👀

[tulip scaffold]

Finally the Wolfenstein crossover
SS soldier returns from doom 2. The only guy they have refused to remake in nuDoom games.

[left lance]

tbf i can see why they refused to bring back those guys

[reef lodge]

Because there's no reason to use them, that is all

[round roost]

yall, ehat if we call the number on this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/926326228280025098/1294120989235351593/800px-Doom2016_Daisy_Reference.png?ex=67fdc117&is=67fc6f97&hm=4e8df1446cd6ec29834eb6e81ad635a7e6276db2ae1c45ec54a9512cb6898e28&format=webp&quality=lossless&

[tulip scaffold]

Call it

[round roost]

bet

yall, why does doom slayer NOT have a crucible axe/spear during the timeline of the darl ages

[ember crystal]

he’s like

a outsider i’m pretty sure

he has to show that he is worthy of acquiring a sentinel weapon

or maybe he’s just too good at killing that they give him his own custom weapons

[elder viper]

I mean the SS soldiers are from Wolfenstein not Doom so its obvious why they haven't come back

MachineGames Wolfenstein is the best you'll get

[elder torrent]

theyre in doom 2 as well

except now on steam theyre censored which is fucking stupid

why are we keeping people from seeing nazis get shot are we trying not to offend the nazis?

[elder viper]

i know the original commenter though phrased it like they originated from Doom II

[tulip scaffold]

I was kinda joking. And kinda alluding to how TDA fits a quake game pretty well.
But at the same time, it would be fire...

[atomic garnet]

Yo long time no see it’s me InkyBendy

[crisp otter]

eyyyy

[atomic garnet]

How’s life?

[lilac pulsar]

When Doom: The Dark Ages releases, what id Software should work/develop next (isn’t DOOM related after 5 games, the series should lay dormant for a while)? A make new Installment to a pre-existing (Wolfenstein, Rage, Hexen, Quake, etc) franchises, or a new original IP?

[lament anchor]

I personally would want something new

But I wouldnt be opposed to something quake

[long ocean]

The streets need Quake 1 but remade in the dark ages engine

[reef lodge]

Wolfenstein has MachineGames, so I would be against id working on that. We got a new Quake game just recently, but it was MP only so I still see this as a likely option. Hexen is too niche, RAGE flopped HARD. So my guess is Quake
-# Unless we are getting an Orcs & Elves 3 lol

[foggy seal]

Quake fans in shambles

[wary goblet]

So I think that everyone here is excited to get rid of the hell spawn known as demons

[mint plinth]

hugo is on record saying there is more doom stories to tell. Probably will be that which I am happy about. Machine Games should stick with Wolfenstein and maybe Quake. Rage 3 is probalby at least for many years. Hexen maybe, but i think they need to give us remasters (like Doom1/2 ) for heretic and hexen.

[reef lodge]

Pun intended?

[foggy seal]

maybe

it was too good of opportunity to pass up lmao

[craggy willow]

the wraiths and their crystal spaceship are pretty much unexplored so that's where it can go after TAG2, also samur maykr is still alive.

[mint plinth]

prob get more wraith lore with TDA. So when they do go back to the future, yes

[nimble loom]

What if its something new

It doesnt have to be another sequel to one of their 30 old series, they can make something new

[craggy willow]

I mean quake 4 ends in a cliffhanger lol it could be part of the doom 2016 multiverse /s

[feral plover]

guys do u think we would ride a tank in tda

[thin frost]

after john cena turned heel i've actually softened to the idea of him playing doomguy in a future adaptation, even if i still prefer other actors

[thin frost]

that would be sick

[ember crystal]

I know theres a turret we can use

[wary goblet]

If so, I call shotgun.

[ember crystal]

naaah, that means I get the middle seat

thats the bitch seat

[reef lodge]

I'm so done with movies casting A-list actors all of the time

Jurassic Park prided itself on having a little-known cast but still booming the box office, let's do that again

[left lance]

give the unknown actors the recognition they deserve

so that they can be seen for their talents

[craggy willow]

so what's your headcanon on the mysterious voice shouting noooooo

[nimble cliff]

It’s John Romero

[craggy willow]

so looking at the new trailer, what is the meaning of that helmet coming from the portal? Is it hinting at more doomguys or something like that?

[nimble loom]

Isnt he playing duke nukem

if that movie ever comes out

[keen quest]

It means his ass got beat 😭

[thin frost]

i mean yeah, but then again that thing is in development hell so who knows

[crisp falcon]

The more I think about it. Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal are heavily modified to run on switch 1. Giving it a switch 2 upgrade wouldn't be easy. Or at the very least it would have to been just an update to the framerate I'd imagine. It would be too much work on the code base for graphical updates I feel?

[tulip scaffold]

It's emulation

[winter nexus]

Too bad we won't be able to play TDA on Switch. 😔

[crisp falcon]

Maybe switch 2! Only time will tell! :0

[foggy seal]

Thank god I have a powerful handheld PC, but yeah, very likely it will be on switch 2 some time later

[winter nexus]

Yeah, eventually I'd imagine they'll port it to Switch, but it usually takes longer, perhaps at Christmas.

[craggy willow]

I usually play doom on steam linux which is what steam deck runs so Im hopeful it will run nicely

[foggy seal]

look up Indiana Jones and the Great Circle running on Steam Deck, that's what kind of performance you should expect if you gonna play new Doom on it

[blissful palm]

It runs good on a steam deck?

Because i want to buy one but i’m not sure

[foggy seal]

Doom 2016 and Eternal run great on steam deck

speaking from personal experience

[craggy willow]

I dont have a steam deck but I run steam on linux which is what steam decks run on, as a rule of thumb Id games and Valve games run perfectly on Linux for historical reasons (e.g: Doom 3 was released officially on Linux in 2004, Half Life 2 and most of valve games has been on Linux since 2013)

[blissful palm]

Oh ok, I didn’t know that

[craggy willow]

yeah it has reached a point where you dont even care what's running beneath the steam overlay. I dont know how it will handle TDA but Eternal runs like butter in one

[feral plover]

i think its the dark lord

[hazy solstice]

Hopefully not a clifhanger before the DLCs.
Cuz that would really suck. xD

[iron spade]

the doom guys MCU

[unique parcel]

either he's getting his ass whooped or he's taking his helmet off to whoop someone elses ass

[umbral viper]

My goat would never get whooped

[elder viper]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-dies-gif-24297438

[pale crown]

rs

[craggy willow]

im calling it, that hooded figure behind the hooded baddie is either the one behind it all or is from the cosmic realm and is hiding her face

[umbral viper]

Whooped someone so hard he got whooped, don’t count

[nimble cliff]

Master Chief victim

[umbral viper]

You pmo.

[flat fable]

Up next: Doom, the steampunk era

[manic wing]

we have seen doom in a coffin before the end in doom etern ancient gods does not say anything

[elder viper]

huh

[patent arrow]

when is doom 3 coming out

[reef lodge]

2004

Can't wait for it, the alpha that leaked recently was so cool

[thin frost]

after cybercthulu, the next logical step would be doomguy vs nyarlathotep

[flat fable]

Doom guy vs the industrial demons

[normal summit]

what if in a future game doom guy wakes up to see its all a nightmare, and when he became a god, he started lucid dreaming?

[flat fable]

That'd be something

[wet tundra]

Will we ever get Doom 4

[flat fable]

Doom 2016

[tulip meadow]

I really do like the future

[tulip meadow]

Doom 2026?

[frosty crest]

Doom 2052

[tulip meadow]

That’s actually not far away!

[wet tundra]

2016?
But that’s 12 years away!

[flat fable]

I know, ID originally had planned it to be a call of duty type, but seems like they may change their mind

[reef lodge]

In all seriousness, a game called DOOM 4 was in development

Like Tipsy said, id was making a more grounded game, which led to its scrapping. The devs didn't like it that much

[flat fable]

Ye

[reef lodge]

We have a bunch of footage from it, it's known as DOOM 4 1.0 to avoid confusion with DOOM 2016

I, personally, don't think DOOM 2016 is DOOM 4, because I don't think games have to be numbered

[craggy willow]

https://imgur.com/a/ddWPsS2

Im replaying doom 2016 and I noticed these sarcophagi with the davoth symbol and all lol

[tulip scaffold]

Which level is that?

[craggy willow]

Advanced Research Complex, after talking to Samur you take the elevator down it's the room before the arena

[flat fable]

Nice

[tulip scaffold]

So multiple doomguys in a multiverse?

[flat fable]

Doom eternal and 2016 gave us the idea of the Doomverse

[flat fable]

Skagen

[craggy willow]

I honestly have no idea what to make out of this, is it an easter egg or something?

there are a lot of realms between urdak and hell so maybe that's where the multiple earths/dimensions are?

[elder viper]

There are more than 1 Doom Marines in the sense of a lone soldier against Hell but there’s only one Slayer in canon

[elder viper]

I mean the dimensions in Dooms multiverse aren’t ever given an actual distance between one another so we don’t know what’s actually “between” what

I like to think there all packed together blocked by an infinitely stretching yet infinitely narrow wall that can only passed via the various methods of teleportation/ universal travel we’ve seen throughout the franchise

[nimble loom]

The doom 3 marine

Theres also the quake 3 and quake champions versions

[tulip scaffold]

Doom 3 marine was so OP he took on hell with reload

[umbral viper]

Thoughts on a possible dark lord spin off? Like, maybe keep the general loop of gameplay but instead of guns it could be magic or some other weird stuff, or just not cause it’s a spinoff?

I feel like we didn’t get enough dark lord content for us to really care about him

[surreal willow]

I’d play it, we definitely needed more Devoth especially considering he’s the power source and body double of the slayer

[craggy willow]

Im all for Hexen again tbh

3 decades later

[tulip scaffold]

The final level was waaaaaay too short

[umbral viper]

Legit. For a character minorly shadowed in 2016 and made a 10/10 debut, him only being important to the active plot for part of immora and a (imo) lackluster fight is criminal

I think the boss is formulated perfectly. The summoned mobs and the turn based action fits to be a true duel, but it’s too easy tbh

[tulip scaffold]

Immora was the coolest looking level in all of Eternal, but there wasn't any reason to be there

More arenas with floating hook points would have been 🔥

Maybe some absurd platforming section too since it's a above the void

[elder viper]

Immora being Hells capital and we got so little lore surrounding it sucks so much

TAG2 in general introduces these interesting plot points that where just never expanded upon

Granted there’s a chance these are things that will be revealed in a later entry but who knows

[cursive obsidian]

took me 40 minutes

[opaque rover]

I think thats the other "night" sentinels that got put in the sarcaphogus and that cant be the dark lord

[mint plinth]

Immora felt kinda rushed, def the weakest level in expansions

[winter nexus]

I enjoyed it, but it did feel a bit like a reskin of Urdak and the Holt, and I think that everyone can agree that the boss fight could've given more.

Like it was perhaps developed from unused Hold infrastructure.

[mint plinth]

yes it was way too "urdakie". Blame covid

[winter nexus]

I didn't think they did too bad considering, although it would've been interesting to see what they would've done without the pandemic.

[azure pumice]

#the-future

[open kettle]

No, probably just them not knowing where the story was gonna go yet.

[flat fable]

Doom the eternal ages

[patent latch]

Classic Doom Eternal Dark Ages 2016

[flat fable]

Ye

[valid moss]

DOOMUltimateFinalHellSigilEternal64ResurrectionPlutoniaTNTAncientGodsPartIIInvasionMasterLevelVFR

[reef lodge]

BFG Edition

[lilac pulsar]

Microsoft owns ID Software and Activision. It's time to bring back Hexen, Heretic 2, Hexen 2, etc., on steam and/or MS store, playable with modern pc and updated controls with help from iD Software.

For those who don't know, back when iD was its own thing, Raven software released a game built on the Doom engine called Heretic. It was set in a medieval universe and it introduced camera view (ability to aim up and down), bridges and multilevel play, as well as a ton of ridiculously awesome features and game ideas that made multiplayer battles hilariously fun (the Morph Ovum being something untoppable). It was an amazing game, and the sequels (Hexen, Heretic 2, Hexen 2, etc.) all added something to the formula.

Given what I'm seeing so far, there's no way now that Activision could release a new Heretic or Hexen sequel, because Doom the Dark Ages basically is taking that space from them. The only thing missing is the "magical" components, but everything else seems to be there.

[reef lodge]

All of them are on MS Store and Steam except for Heretic II and Hexen II's expansion

Which is a shame as Heretic II is quite good

Maybe someday we'll get a Hexen III

[lilac pulsar]

Just given to Id and Bethesda. Today's Activison has new games besides Call of Duty. Seriously so much IP under the company with ten different studios working on single series rather developed something new and fresh.

[tribal delta]

The future? Y'all already thinking about Doom The Enlightenment?

[craggy willow]

I agree and I think that the last 3 games are remakes or reimaginations of 90s fps

doom 2016 > classic doom remake
eternal > quake 3 arena remake
tda > hexen remake

[thin frost]

hear me out, i want the next doom movie to use life on mars by david bowie for the scene where the demonic invasion begins

something about the way the orchestral elements and general beauty of the song would contrast with the visceral violence would go hard

also you know, the first game mostly takes place on mars and the song title, ong it works

[craggy willow]

I'd rather they keep the budget and do some short story like on amazon prime like space marine 2, titus and the secret level series

[lilac pulsar]

After the TDA release, we got more supporting content a year later. Should Id Software halt themselves making any more Doom games before we get Doom fatigue, like a game franchise like CoD or Assassin Creed. Prefers developers over at ID software’s should work on something that ain’t doom.

[craggy willow]

So i just finished doom 2016 again, when vega is about to be wiped doomguy backs it up and samur says nothing. if in eternal we learn that samur is the seraphim and vega is the father, shouldnt samur actually care about backing his god up ? feels like 2016 and eternal are pulling different directions here

[elder viper]

most likely they didn't think that far ahead perhaps backing up VEGA was in the event id wanted to do more

The Father and the Seraphim where barely established at that point

in fact i dont remember if The Father was ever even mentioned in 2016

[craggy willow]

it wasnt, the seraphim was hinted as a figure in a doom 2016 codex but even they could have changed the dialogue in that scene to samur asking doom to back vega up.

[elder viper]

then VEGA probably wasnt planned to be The Father yet

[craggy willow]

yeah I think one lesson I have to learn from the last couple of years is to not care about the lore of games too much, or maybe im too jaded after shadowlands in wow lol

but yeah the vega backup is a small oversight if you think about it. it's ok

[mint plinth]

Next Doom game when?

[craggy willow]

3 days or so

[reef lodge]

Not Mars, but rather its moons

[thin frost]

eh, close enough
if not than maybe for a doom 2016 adaptation that's actually in mars

[reef lodge]

DOOM 3 was on Mars too

[foggy seal]

and Doom 2016 is practically Doom 3 2: Electric Boogaloo

[rustic cedar]

Do we think doom the dark ages will get free updates with new game modes etc in the months and years to come other than just the paid expansion ?

[craggy willow]

So my TDA theory based on absolutely nothing is that ||The maykrs are connected to the cosmic realm somehow due to the eye symbol that appear when they mutate ala khan maykr boss, the wretch is the hooded figure, she comes from the cosmic realm, sits next to the main villain and she disables the maykr control system on the raptor suit as she knows maykr tech ||

[slow kettle]

Spoiler: ||asd||

[robust ice]

I want Doom The Stone Ages

[reef lodge]

Master Levels for DOOM 3 when

[tulip dawn]

GzDoom port being added officially to consoles? and having the nightdive port effect of having multiplayer and mod browser????????? (If Only)

[sharp spade]

what's your guys guesses for the dark ages dlc?

[tulip dawn]

Doom horror spinoff dlc, or what happened between 2016 after he got betrayed by hayden

[sharp spade]

so like in between 2016 and eternal?

[tulip dawn]

ye

[sharp spade]

that would be so cool ngl

[tulip dawn]

either that or they had a cancelled idea before of a dlc which would be like doom 3 homage

so maybe they could do that

[sharp spade]

realistic demonic horror would make me have a heart attack

but it would be so fun

[tulip dawn]

ye

I absolutely adore Doom 3, I personally have it above 2016, and 64, it's an incredible video game, I would love to see them make a spinoff title to go back to this idea, or do a left 4 dead type thing, or make a game based off coop horde mode

[sharp spade]

for the dark ages just normally i hope they make demonic weapon skins

like the unmaykr in doom 64

[tulip dawn]

ye

[tulip dawn]

I wish the modern dooms had coop campaigns, or coop horde modes, sad to see them stray from it

[sharp spade]

welp atleast i can get the plat without ps plus

[tulip dawn]

true

[sharp spade]

coop campaigns would be so good tho like crossplay for console and pc but yeah i like that they focus on the main game

[reef lodge]

There's co-op campaigns for 2016

[tulip dawn]

how cool do you think a left 4 dead style Doom would be, i've always been having dreams of how cool it would be, it'll likely never happen, but i think it would be soooo cool

[tulip dawn]

oh damn, sick

[sharp spade]

that would be so cool but sadly some people would call it straying from doom and hate it even if it was good

[tulip dawn]

i feel like as long as it's known to be a spinoff, then people would be more fine with it than if it was trying to integrate itself into the official timeline

[sharp spade]

yeah but still some people just dont get it and hate for no reason

[tulip dawn]

well that's what happening with eternal and dark ages, and 3, people will nitpick things all the time just cuz they look for it

[sharp spade]

yeah ive seen people say they wont play it because of the rings even though the glory kills had flashing lights and you can turn it off. its just sad to see people who dont have common sense

[tulip dawn]

ye

[tulip dawn]

this might be a hot take, but i feel like the reason doom 3 gets so much flak is mainly because people go into it looking out for what they are told is bad about the game, and they don't let themselves take in the actual game experience

[sharp spade]

yeah people just look at games without research and say its a bad game, its the same with terraria being called a "2d Minecraft"

[tulip dawn]

true, I recently did a playthrough of Doom 3, and it actually boggles my mind on how people can EVER say it's slow, like sometimes with how tight the games rooms are it can feel as fast as eternal

[sharp spade]

people say the dark ages is slow even though theres a setting to make it faster it just doesnt make sense of how people hate without actually playing

[tulip dawn]

ye, i think sadly people equate a game being different in playstyle to it being "slow" or "boring"

[sharp spade]

even if a game is slow paced its still so good like god of war having slow paced travel but amazing story and battles

[mint plinth]

Ill have to guess once i finish the base game

but im hoping for a longer DLC esp since there isn't any MP

ithe dlc will not end with the slayer being entombed, that is for sure

[tulip dawn]

ye, personally i hope they don't let themselves get discouraged with changing the formula because of redditors or loud minority of negative nancies, honestly I think it would be sick to see them go back to old ideas like amospheric horror, or try to make side games that are similar to og doom

[reef lodge]

People say that because big youtuber said so so they HAVE to agree

[sharp spade]

yeah but game companies are too scared to change because of hate which is so sad because even if the game doesnt fit your genre of game, you can still try it

i personally love difference in games like my favs Stray, god of war, doom, and space marine. i dont get how people hate genres they dont even try in the first place

[tulip dawn]

agreed, big youtubers constantly shittalk the game with nonsence, I feel like every time I go into a doom 3 analysis video, every 2 seconds I hear them whining about it even daring to have a wince of horror elements to it, or they say some baseless trash on the video game not being a real doom game, legit big youtubers don't even pretend to try to adjust to how the game plays, like with the flashlight, all they do is whine about it when in all honestly when you get good at the game, or play through at least 1/4th of it, you start relying way way way less on it and the games gameplay picks up tremendously,

[tulip dawn]

ye, people nowadays really like to dawg on anything that lives and breaths

[sharp spade]

i hate big yt'rs trashtalking a game they dont like, i dont really like hollow knight but i wouldnt rant about and change peoples minds to make them hate it

[tulip dawn]

ye, genuinly it always goes in the direction of "I didn't personally like this, so OBJECTIVELY it is bad" which I hate

like with that one guy and the Fallout 3 10 hour long video of why it's "OBjeCTiVely A BaD GaME"

[sharp spade]

sad to see how people get scared to play a game when people say its bad even though to some its the best game ever

[reef lodge]

They keep claiming it's such a distant move from the classics when Eternal is even moreso but they glaze it whenever they can

[sharp spade]

even though its more to the classic games TDA gets trashed talked by people who didnt even play the game

[tulip dawn]

doom eternal is literally a glorified modern quake game, it's incredible, but people who says that it is more of a doom game than 3 are lying to themselves, the game has No exploration or fun secrets like the older games

[reef lodge]

I love every gameplay formula DOOM has took up but if there was one I would have to say feels the least like DOOM, it's Eternal

[tulip dawn]

or at least the visible secrets of it are so easy a baby could do it

[sharp spade]

it also has alot of bright colors with ammo and enemies

[reef lodge]

DOOM Eternal and TDA are cannibalizing Quake, it's sad

[sharp spade]

the blood is like ketchup tbh

[reef lodge]

Hexen too sorta

[mint plinth]

well lets hope quake is being made by machine games. at least that is the rumor

[reef lodge]

I want them to do another Wolf first tbh

[mint plinth]

Hexen, well the rights thwere in Limbo for many years, alnost meed to reboot that ...

[tulip dawn]

It makes me sad that when watching youtubers react to the Doom the Dark Ages trailer, as SOON AS THEY MENTION MORE EXPLORATION they immiedietly are like "THAT's A TerRRible Direction, WhEN HaS DoOM HAD EXPLORATION IN MIND" like dawg og doom has always been huge on exploration

[sharp spade]

i dont play quake but i might if i have some time in my day

[mint plinth]

i agree, where the fuck is Wolf 3

[tulip dawn]

like some reason people now think that just because doom eternal didn't have much exploration, that means doom was "never meant" to be a game with exploration

[reef lodge]

You guys should play RAGE 2 btw. Excellent shooter partly developed by id. Feels like the bridge between 2016 and Eternal gameplaywise

[mint plinth]

Rage 3 when?

[tulip dawn]

sounds sick

[sharp spade]

i thought of but i feel like i would get stuck somewhere in the game idk

[reef lodge]

Only if 2 was succesful commercially

[reef lodge]

You wouldn't, it's open world sandbox

If you want a partly-id-developed FPS where you get stuck constantly, try Hexen :p

[sharp spade]

i dont really like open worlds cause i feel like some games put too much and alot of it DEPENDS on exploration to complete a part of the story easier

[reef lodge]

Well then the first RAGE might still be your cup of tea. Feels like a bridge of 3 and 2016, sorta

[sharp spade]

is it on playstation tho?

[reef lodge]

PS3

[tulip dawn]

do you also think doom should try going back to being more tight level design? like in the classics and doom 3, where you have less space to dodge enemies, and the enemy encounters feel more natural with them being sprawed throughout the level instead of just randomly appearing for an arena

[reef lodge]

I hear that's what TDA is doing

[sharp spade]

might think abt it but im thinking of playing doom 1 2 and quake 1

[tulip dawn]

makes me even more hype for the game

[reef lodge]

I'm fine with both formulas. You can make a level like this in 2016

[tulip dawn]

2016 is great, and i think did level design better than eternal

[reef lodge]

Sure, no rush. I just recommend getting it digital unless you like disc-swapping every 3 minutes

[sharp spade]

ill get digital cause i alr got like 25 discs lol

[slow comet]

I agree

[reef lodge]

I'm sounding like a broken record but I like both, really

[slow comet]

That's cool. 👍

[reef lodge]

2016 had more areas where you need to find or do stuff without demons up your ass though. In Eternal it's either fights or platforming

[sharp spade]

yeah i agree the parkour parts seem too unrealistic and cartoony with the swinging maces and floating platforms

[reef lodge]

My biggest issue with Eternal is the lore

I like Doomguy going from victim to badass, but there's barely any explanation for it. And I feel they are focusing on the Sentinels and Maykrs too much, I would've preferred them as being in 2016 and Eternal only

[sharp spade]

how do you think the pandemonium difficulty would feel on ps5 or xbox? it might be too hard for me

[reef lodge]

Idk what that is :p

[sharp spade]

its a step up of nightmare

[reef lodge]

So like a harder difficulty to NM?

[sharp spade]

yes

[reef lodge]

Cool, that's what UN originally was until they changed it. We'll have to see

[sharp spade]

search up "doom the dark ages difficulties"

[sharp spade]

maybe it will be UN but with a less cartoony name

[reef lodge]

I think Pandemonium is a worse name than UN tbh

[sharp spade]

off topic but i might get ghost of tsushima its on sale for 29 bucks

[reef lodge]

Never played it, I don't really play modern titles all too much

[sharp spade]

its a WAYYY better name in youtube titles cause its a big name which would get people to watch

[sharp spade]

not pandemonium btw in talking about UN

[reef lodge]

UN also just tells you what it is. Pandemonium sounds so vague

[sharp spade]

yeah but it sounds more cool when you know what it means

[reef lodge]

It sounds meh

[sharp spade]

seeing pandemonium in diffuculties is like a menacing name calling out to you to play on that

idk it just depends on preference

[tulip dawn]

both games are incredible, i just think 2016 had more fun exploration and more natural demon encounters than eternal

[reef lodge]

Oh yeah demons often are already there

[tulip dawn]

tbh for me, nothing beats the og's, the origional dooms are my favorite games of all time

[reef lodge]

I love the first DOOM with all my heart. Great to just load up and speedrun E1M1-E3M8

[tulip dawn]

I think thy flesh consumed is also amazing, very difficult, but once you master it, you feel invincible, only expansion to the old dooms that I am iffy on is Plutonia Experiment, only because half the time I feel so genuinly overwhelmed and stressed through 99% of it

[reef lodge]

I have shared my love for TFC before

It's just not as viable for me to speedrun, I take my time

[tulip dawn]

took me about a month of prep and 6 hours straight of attempts to do a successful ultra violence speedrun of it, very difficult because of against thy wickedly

[reef lodge]

UV casual is hard enough for me, I respect you greatly

I speedrun on ITYTD just because it's optimal. Casual I do on HMP, UV if I'm feeling special

[tulip dawn]

doing uv speed is my fav category cuz it feels just very fun to have to learn how to deal with each encounter effectively, I spent like 5 months doing speedruns of Knee deep in the dead until I got a sub 7, it was the best i've ever felt

[reef lodge]

I don't speedrun legitimately, as in, upload to speedrun.com

Though I'd get like top 20 in Sonic 1 Origins if I was to do that

[tulip dawn]

the people on the kex port for moderation are incredibly nice to talk to, thats the main reason I started uploading there is cuz the people are really nice

genuinly a very healthy and fun atmosphere in the other engines of doom, idk about sonic origins, but for doom I really like the speedrun community

[reef lodge]

Sonic has a funny speedrunning rule

[solid hearth]

like a doom pirate marines in hawaii

[lilac pulsar]

I love how at this point ID software doesn't even try to hide the fact that Doom and Quake are literally in the same universe or same multiverse. The Dark Ages like come on, the Sea of Dead. Eldritch being. Guns that resemble from Quake 1 weapons. You can't just tell us that you don't think ID Software secretly wants to do a soft-reboot Quake already, or even a revival of the new Heretic and Hexen game.

[real kayak]

the future is rage 3 come back to this comment in like 4 years idfk

[dapper beacon]

ID should just make another Quake game at this point. They shouldn't drop Doom at all, but cmon it's been ages, and the nods to Quake in Doom signal this, at least I hope. I wouldn't mind another lovecraftian or another strogg quake game. I just want one tbh

[minor gust]

I dont like quake but I kinda agree. My only problem with that is they have virtually no way to make it different from doom gameplay since modern doom gameplay is closer to OG quake than anything else. theyd have to make it VERY different, probably not even a boomer shooter

[dapper beacon]

yeah that is a fair point

honestly, as crappy as the doom 2016 vr game was, i would love for id to take another shot at something like that

a doom the dark ages vr spinoff would go so hard

[rugged vault]

I hope for a new quake; if not, a doom apinoff title that’s basically a spiritual revival of the cancelled doom 4

[dapper beacon]

i lowkey kind of want a doom 3 sequel

doom 3 is so underrated imo

[rugged vault]

I was hopeing doom 4 was a sequel to 3 but it was supposed to be another reboot but for doom 2

[wise terrace]

i dont think ID has the rights to Quake anymore

Zenimax techincally owns the rights to quake again but like i dont know who would develop it

[nimble loom]

And who owns id

[reef lodge]

Bethesda

[livid condor]

Cant wait to see what the future brings even tho I havent beaten tda yet'

[surreal sorrel]

future cool

[brisk sparrow]

When will Doom, The Dark Ages... come with ray tracing.. its a no without it for me :\

Expecially an offline game cant repeat it that much. Geforce 5080 hungry here and let down ;\

and colours, even If i play on my OLED tv screen, they aint popping pop

[reef lodge]

TDA already has ray-tracing

[dapper beacon]

Ah

[wise terrace]

It has racetracing it’s built in just the path tracing isn’t there yet

[jade quartz]

well which quake universe, quake i or quake ii/4

[dapper beacon]

honestly quake 2/4. I'm kinda nostalgic for quake 4 despite not really being there for its launch

[tulip scaffold]

Quake 2 remaster was so good. Call of the Void mod looks like a near perfect blend of 1+2.
https://youtu.be/wBd4Q8xotpE?si=sPddxV5L5IQRXZqc

[tulip scaffold]

This is what I actually want

[lilac pulsar]

I could honestly see Thira being playable in the DLC, she has stuff that could mirror the slayer melee and shield mechanics.

[idle quest]

Kind of wondering if we're ever gonna get a punt gun at some point

Like you'd find this ultra rare 1 bore ass gun in a crevice or something, and it just BLOWS demons into oblivion. Like a BFG with less spread and serious recoil

[chrome gyro]

Do u guys think tda will be the last doom game? I mean how would they continue with the end of the ancient gods part 2 with everything being over basically

[reef lodge]

Could do spin-offs, a reboot, or a retcon, or just continue the story somehow

[chrome gyro]

i kinda have a feeling this is the end of doom, if not permanently then atleast for a while

[cosmic ember]

They should make doom gacha

[solar crown]

microsoft won't just let doom never get a game again, it makes too much money for that

[chrome gyro]

true but i dont know how theyd continue the story with out doin some weird stuff, i think quake needs to come back..

[reef lodge]

We just got 2 new expansions for the Quake series, I think it's back already

[solar crown]

Well you can just not have doomguy for one

And then either let it play in the past or just make up a reason to let demons leave hell again

[reef lodge]

They should do a DOOM 3 sequel...

[chrome gyro]

i dont think thatd work, when you say doom most think of doom guy or doom slayer, and even then doom slayer is the main person, like he was chosen to be basically unkillable and insanely strong, so a random guy comin along after all that imo wouldnt work

[chrome gyro]

well they made doom 3 dlc with another story

[reef lodge]

Expansion pack, yes, but I want another sequel, it's just too good of a story to let go of

[chrome gyro]

i think doom 3 is overhated

it wasnt bad it was just different.

[solar crown]

Doomguy was a literal random guy in the OG games, and his "powers" in nudoom is barely explored (idk about DA atleast) while he has bare minimum personality.

What makes doom is the setting, which you can definitely get with another character. Hell Doom3 had a different marine

[reef lodge]

Eternal was different, 3 less so

[chrome gyro]

a random guy at the start, hes been here since the beginning and plus this random dude became the slayer, plus he killed the icon of sin before even getting any powers

[reef lodge]

Probably because the Icon of Sin had its brain exposed 😭

[chrome gyro]

and another thing is the icon of sin from eternal a different thing than the one from doom 2?

because in eternal the icon cant die, but in doom 2 all doom guy did was blast his brain with 3 rockets and boom it was dead

[reef lodge]

What makes you think it can't die

[solar crown]

Yeah using regular guns, so?

It's not like he arm wrestled the IoS

[solar crown]

Multiple sources falsely claiming only the crucible can kill them

It's such a stupid thing in eternal, and i'm not even counting my hate for generic mcguffing weapons

[reef lodge]

If you have me go against the world's strongest man, except every bone in his body is broken and I have a chainsaw, of course I win, but what does that even say about me if it wasn't a fair fight

[chrome gyro]

thats what i heard, been hearing it from every where, its pretty cnfusing

[reef lodge]

The Icon was immobilized and its brain was exposed it's really not a huge feat

[solar crown]

I mean being in the arena is, but again any marine "the player" controlled could have done that

[chrome gyro]

compared to how much doom guy did sure it might just be a regular thing for him but again random human being kills this massive demon that im pretty sure caused the demons to start doin their thing on earth

[reef lodge]

Yeah it's the main culprit behind the invasion iirc but the journey of getting to it is a bigger feat than actually taking it out

Doomguy is a regular guy in the classic games, not even any "impossible rage" like people claim he has, dude's traumatized but he's also determined

In the modern games sure he's beefed up but I still think it's possible to replace him even if only for one game

[chrome gyro]

i mean

they basically did do it in the vr game but yeah

[reef lodge]

The VR game has had like 2 players in the last 3 years

[chrome gyro]

i only own it because its a doom game

[reef lodge]

I'd buy it too but no VR and I don't really care to get one

[chrome gyro]

yeah and i dont think any one would wanna buy a headset just for doom vfr

[reef lodge]

Maybe for Duck Season and Half-Life: Alyx but that doesn't justify the price point atm, I'll wait for it to cheapen down or something

[chrome gyro]

or bone works, i love that game.

[reef lodge]

Boneworks is from the creators of Duck Season actually, I hear it's cool

[chrome gyro]

yeah it is. i played the hell out of it and its sequel ( i think its a sequel not sure )

[reef lodge]

'It' here being Boneworks or Duck Season?

[chrome gyro]

no its another game

bonelab, all of them are connected but bonelab is just boneworks but with a few gimmicks and new levels

[reef lodge]

I see

[tulip scaffold]

Rage 3 but it's an extraction shooter 😭

[foggy seal]

No, Marathon was already destroyed with that simple decision, no need to destroy Rage as well

[crimson valley]

I bet four grams of dirt doom guy will have a gun in the next game.

[fervent garden]

i should’ve put my dream next doom game here

DOOM: Desolation is a survival horror spin-off set decades after DOOM Eternal, where the Slayer rests in stasis and the world believes the war against Hell is over. You play as a lone UAC technician on a remote monitoring station that begins to suffer mysterious malfunctions, possessions, and eventually, a full-scale demonic breach. Unlike the Slayer, you’re just trying to survive—scavenging ammo, rerouting power, and hiding from demons in claustrophobic, shadow-drenched corridors. The tone is dark, isolating, and intimate, drawing from DOOM 3 and classic sci-fi horror. As you uncover cryptic logs and lost ARC data, it becomes clear the Slayer’s legend still lingers—and by the end, as Hell breaks loose and your death seems certain, a buried vault stirs… and the Slayer begins to wake.

[potent totem]

when is the next fix

[lilac pulsar]

DLC Campaign Content?

What do you think the campaign DLC is going to show us? Do you think it will show us the start of the Civil War, and the Night Sentinels realising what the Khan Makyr has been up to in regards to the Argent Energy Factories in Nekravol?

Obviously we saw Valen's son, Marok in TDA, so he hasn't died yet, and therefore Valen hasn't betrayed Argent D'Nur yet. And of course, we may even see the trap where the slayer gets a building dropped on his head, leading to DOOM 2016... In your opinion, do you think this is what the DLC is going to show us?

[junior grail]

I hope it shows all of that. Then, wouldn't DOOM be complete?

[pearl wagon]

If they showed BJ blaskowitz

[floral vine]

Doomslayer at the end of ancient gods part 2 loses all his divinity machine powers, and ends up waking up in 1940's USA, he teams up with BJ Blazkowitz to kill nazi demons

[idle quest]

I reckon we're gonna see more Cosmic Realm lore, like how Eternal's DLC expanded Urdak more.

I'm hoping to see Marok become the Icon or the Night Sentinels finding out the Maykrs' treason. The Wretch being shown would also be cool

[reef lodge]

DOOMcord try to spell Blazkowicz right challenge

[vale maple]

Bla kozy

[rugged vault]

Blastkowitz

[nimble loom]

Its so peak

But like if peak meant unplayable trash

[unborn fog]

Any plans for 21x9 5120x1400 monitor support?

[left egret]

Iirc ||the codex says the Witch's body is just an avatar, which kinda implies she might not really be dead||

Do y'all think she could return at some point? Maybe in TDA's DLC? Maybe in a sequel to Eternal?

[tender vale]

and im one of them 😭 😭

[left egret]

I kinda hope the cosmic realm returns in the future at least, I think it's really cool

[dapper beacon]

Even tho its technically not id's anymore, i hope we will get wolfenstein 3. A doom tie in would also be awesome too

[tulip scaffold]

I'd love a sequel to eternal where Samur teams with Makron, and all the forces of hell are stroggified.

[dapper beacon]

You can get a quest 3s for like 300, and probably less during sales and holidays

I got a psvr2 for 250, and i use it all the time for my ps5 and (mostly) my pc

[reef lodge]

PSVRs can connect to PC?

[dapper beacon]

The psvr2 can connect if u get an adapter

[reef lodge]

Huh that's interesting

[dapper beacon]

Its like 50-70 bucks

[reef lodge]

Well thanks for the info, I might look into it

[dapper beacon]

I'd get a quest 3s if u dont got a ps5, the psvr2 is very solid but you lose so much if u dont got a ps5

[reef lodge]

Q3 for me it is then

What about the Quest 2? Fine alternative?

[north stream]

Honestly? Just get a Quest 3s.

It's about the same price if not cheaper than the 2, and is a direct upgrade

[reef lodge]

Alrighty then

[north stream]

the Quest 3 is even better than the 3s, but it does come with a cost

and for a first time VR user, the 3s is way more than enough

I will say the Quest 3 is a really nice headset. Light, good display, pretty nice controllers

though, that final point is also valid for the Quest 3s, as it uses the same controllers

[compact scaffold]

RTS version of Doom story. Command the sentinels and UAC on earth to fight off the alien invasion demon hordes!!!

[foggy seal]

a C&C like spin off can be cool but I don't really see it

[proud lantern]

Does the quest 3 work without a Facebook account? id written off that entire brand

[north stream]

They've removed that requirement a while back. You just need a Meta account.

[proud lantern]

so "no". rebranding the company doesn't change anything.

[north stream]

Facebook is still a different service.

[brisk narwhal]

i pray they add rewards for beating the game on the hardest difficulty

[north stream]

Owned by Meta, but different account.

[proud lantern]

If I'm buying hardware I want to use it on my terms without getting permission from anyone else.

So no, as far as I'm concerned it's the same thing

[north stream]

Good luck finding a headset that has such ability. There's practically nothing on the market that's like that.

Especially due to stuff like SteamVR existing

In the end, you'll always end up with the same problem

[proud lantern]

Then I will do without. Similarly I haven't bought a TV since they started shoving smarts into them. Just monitors.

[north stream]

Either you need a Meta and optionally a Steam account, or you need a Steam account

Gaming has just turned into a cesspool of "you only have a license" sadly

[proud lantern]

That's technically always been true of the software, but trying to extend it to hardware is unacceptable

[north stream]

at least back in the day software wasn't tied to accounts that could be banned at any moment for no reason
but yeah, I agree with the hardware part

[mint plinth]

Dark Ages completed.

Next Doom game when?

[limpid hamlet]

DLC first

[feral plover]

???

[silk wind]

i heard it was in a couple of days

[obtuse ocean]

Hoping we get the Slayer mark on the default suit.

[craggy willow]

so was the|| slayer club's zombie skin from eternal ||foreshadowing?

[lean tinsel]

A doom rts would be awesome

[craggy willow]

Doom The Pylon Ages

[left egret]

||Based on what the codex says I don't think the Witch is really dead||

Some may call me crazy for this but I have a theory that she'll return as the primary antagonist of either:

• TDA's DLC
• or a DOOM Eternal sequel

[craggy willow]

so what was that scene where t||he hell priest tells azhrak that he has to inform the "hell council" about the progress||?

[idle quest]

Probably his group at the time. Not the Eternal Deags since they probably haven't betrayed yet

That or something like archdemons, like Eternal's art book mentioned

[novel wing]

I know we all talking here about the new DLC, but i have a question and an opinion.

Would it be a good idea to remake the older titles (Doom 1, 2 and 64)?

[idle quest]

I don't see it happening especially following the newest Kez Engine port lol

Would be cool to see tho

At most I see more modern QOL improvements upon the originals

[midnight burrow]

The codex on the TDA Hell Priest confirms he was referring to a council of Archdemons

[idle quest]

Called it 🔥

I also called the "Wraiths being from the Cosmic Realm" so.....lol

[violet viper]

You guys reckon TDA will get a horde mode of sorts

[hollow cipher]

count me a fool but i want pvp multiplayer with just slayers going agaist slayers it would be so hectic but amazing

full gear from the campaign

[mint plinth]

I hope so, and a new game plus that adds more stuff to the base camp.

[winter nexus]

What's everyone expecting to see at QuakeCon this year?

[copper moon]

I really hope so and don't forget about the Master Levels, looking forward to those especially

[mint plinth]

i hope more for new game plus mode, because that would mean a master level campaign. They could even go beyond that and have more new game options. So many possibiliities.

[empty lark]

Doom the dark ages dlc: the roman ages

[peak swan]

One thing I been thinking about since Cybepunk Turf Wars got announced. Imagine a DOOM On-Rail or Light Gun Arcade Shooter! It would be soo fun!

[craggy willow]

so during the final battle azrahk tells the witch that if he dies her realm goes too, RIP cosmic realm?

[nova scarab]

since we have basically all the gaps filled we just need to remake the classic doom games in a unique style different to the trilogy we have

[nova scarab]

since doomguy isn’t in the divinity machine yet so now jumping 20 feet and ripping heads off

[craggy willow]

I would love some master levels asap tbh

[charred mantle]

I really hope they move on from this Doom continuity. if they could blend the tone of Doom 3 with the gameplay of 2016 you basically have the perfect doom game imo. with modern hardware a Doom 3 style presentation would be horrifying and memorable.

Cant see that happening because it is inherently less marketable but there is a reason that so many people have a soft spot for Doom 3 and its not the gameplay.

[scarlet hemlock]

There is no future for doom now the game is stupidly flopping I can't believe this

[nova scarab]

what do you mean

[scarlet hemlock]

I'm sorry I'm just getting worked up over this game failing

[ripe dragon]

Steam looks low but just consider game pass and other platforms too

[charred mantle]

There is absolutely no doubt they will do another doom game. even if one game underpreforms, its one of the most high profile IPs in gaming. if people dont like TDA they will change direction and there will be a tonne of hype for it.

[scarlet hemlock]

Indeed plus everyone loves doom and who knows maybe they'll pull a cyberpunk and add more stuff to the game.

I think if 1993 came out today people would have the same response because that also just had a single player. It would under perform

[charred mantle]

that was 30+ years ago. A lot has changed i guess..... I found TDA pretty underwhelming but still isnt a bad game. Hopefully they reboot next anyway.

[charred mantle]

I think that a 70% drop off is pretty bad, whatever the reason.

[scarlet hemlock]

well i dont think it needs a reboot maybe after the final slayer game.

[ripe dragon]

It underperformed, but I wonder how this impacts future games as they were saying this won't be the last doom game

[scarlet hemlock]

yeah the problem is its not just doom its multiple games in general. doom the dark ages is a master piece but i wish there was people the multiplayer doom fans can enjoy. also i never expected the fan base to be this split i thought 85% of players enjoyed this game. are steam reviews irrelevant now.

hell even expedition 33 an amazing game by some people which im not playing because doom is kinda making me addicted to it and i dont really play rpgs and prefer souls likes like elden ring. have played it isn't getting as higher numbers as games have done in the past or heck even movie numbers to be exact

[serene tendon]

I picture a sequel to TDA, there isn't really any space left for the story to take place. After it, this continuity has no future

[scarlet hemlock]

good point.

what is the most played game on steam at this time.

counter strike 2 and that game has got way more players than any of these recent games

[left egret]

a master level campaign/ng+ would be pretty cool ngl

i think it would be fun going through the game again but with the full arsenal and with all enemy types able to appear from the start

[foggy seal]

I think main reason is RTX requirement, price doesn't help either though

ray tracing compatible cards in general are not exactly cheap

[idle quest]

Yeah there will definitely be more Doom for sure, I'm not worried abt it lol. I'm sorta content with this being the end of the Slayer saga though, if it is the last entry for this continuity. Not much else room for the story to go apart from putting codex stuff on-screen

Well that and what happened between 2016 and Eternal but that's not in TDA's radius lol

[feral plover]

NG+ Being a randomizer would cure my entire life.

[muted bridge]

As long as they make the dlc I paid for I'm content

[novel thicket]

They should make a dlc where you fight in the arena from the flashbacks

[stark flint]

when is dlc (jk, the game was epic, I have lots of fun yet to have.)

[nova scarab]

eternal was getting hate on launch too 🤷

[scarlet hemlock]

oh was it. of course it was

[tulip scaffold]

I really don't think the game is failing. Microsoft wants to sell game pass. I am sure they are.
Nvidia and microsoft stock has been doing well the past month.

I think dlc will be really big, and probably won't come out for a year, at least.
But updates that add new modes and master levels are also expected I think.

[inland rose]

It’s definitely a massive commercial failure

Nobody except diehards will be talking about this game in a month

[muted bridge]

What abt console sales, may not have sold as much as eternal but it's not destined to fail
Yu don't dictate the future btw you are in a doom server, we will talk abt each doom game forever including doom 3

[scarlet hemlock]

im starting to realise while playing tda that doom eternal is how far they can go. i do not think id and hugo intended to create something on parr with eternal, lets say ehh miazaki wanted to make new souls like it wouldn't be as big as elden ring was. they didnt want to make eternal 2 they wanted to do their own thing. which is refreshing. its like doom the dark ages is the doom eternal coffee couch relax answer.

[muted bridge]

I very much enjoy playing the game on a couch with youtube in the backround

[scarlet hemlock]

indeed same here

tda and 2016 is like a foot massage while eternal is chiropractor therapy with a little bit of electroshock therapy.

[inland rose]

It’s shocking that nobody stepped in to tell Hugo and Marty that the majority of doom fans don’t care about the story and that making a game based almost entirely around parry mechanics isn’t going to over well

All they had to do was combine the best parts of 2016 and eternal

[muted bridge]

I thought the parrying was fun, the story is pretty well made, also
The only things I understand taking out are the mech and dragon

[inland rose]

Oh yeah, that stuff too. Nobody asked for that.

Again, it’s hard to believe there was nobody to put a stop to all of these terrible ideas

[muted bridge]

The only thing I agree with yu on is the mech and dragon even tho I found them fun.
Again most ppl don't care if they include parrying it's not hard to do. Yu haven't actually talked abt why the story was so goshdarn awful yu should convey constructive criticism and not parrot phrases. Story takes yu places, introduces new enemies, weapons. If yu think 2016 was the best in this regard, I agree. But tda story is pretty well made, eternal fell a little short in this regard tho

[inland rose]

It’s not that I think the story is awful. I just don’t care about any story or lore whatsoever. 2016 struck the perfect balance of telling you just enough without being distracting.

[muted bridge]

If yu don't think the story is bad, then skip the story with cutscenes. Would yu rather sit thru samuel yap abt argent for 3 minutes? Cuz those weren't skippable nor interesting. That is 6 min total nonskippable dialogue of yu doing absolutely nothing

But yes 2016 was very ominous ye

I personally think each modern entry is equal with all their strengths and weaknesses

[mighty charm]

I actually really enjoyed the mech and dragon stuff
felt badass
and I absolutely hated being cockteased with a mech in eternal
also eternal isn't some perfect game
I could give long ass lists of complaints
-you feel weak af
-1 berserk the whole game
-wayyyy too cartoony
-bs story
-crash bandicoot ass platforming
-barely any superweapon ammo ever
etc.

also just because you don't like something doesn't mean its a failure of a game
steam numbers don't mean shit either

1. they don't take consoles sales into account at all
2. they don't take early access into account
3. This shit is on gamepass, they know people are playing it on that,theyre well aware
   "massive commercial failure"
   foh
   its been a week since early access
   calm down

[mighty charm]

uggggg
ok so
I'm trying to post a thing that says dark ages is the fastest selling game ever put out ever by id
3 mil in a week
7x faster than eternal
but discord won't let me

[fallen ridge]

Am I crazy to think that if we get a DOOM game set after the events of Eternal and TAG. The next Doom Slayer could be a female Doom Slayer? Am I crazy and thinking that?

[mighty charm]

a bit yeah
they aren't gonna replace him
no exec would sign off on it

[fallen ridge]

I thought it would have been cool

And no, I would not be down bad for her lmao

I just thought, it would have been cool

[mighty charm]

ok well I wasn't thinking that until you explicitly denied it

[serene tendon]

Pretty much Hell is sealed forever, no reason to continue, everything has ended in TAG2

[obtuse ocean]

Dark Ages tells us there are more threats than just hell

[serene tendon]

Yes, but it wouldn't be the same without Hell, it would just be a Quake game

Much more likely to get a reboot if they can't fit a new game in the timeline

[patent leaf]

I think it depends haha 2016 has a lotttt of moments where you can’t do anything and are forced to listen to characters talk at you, Cod-style

I’m very happy eternally and dark ages receive game play for gameplay and story for cutscenes

[solar crown]

You can tell stories about hell even if demons can't leave. And usually sequals just say "uhh and now wr can do X again because of big bad Y to profit off of brandname!!!"

[foggy seal]

now that we have confirmed existence of cosmic realm and samur transforming into eldritch monster i can easily see where post-Eternal game can go

[tender vale]

mysterious voice time

[solar crown]

Tbh if they make a fast paced FPS centered around eldritch monsters just call it quake 😭
But big brandname gotta big brandname ig

[foggy seal]

Pretty sure they can just bullshit hell demons teleporting outside with some new powerful artifact or something along those lines

[solar crown]

Or have them be UAC creations and thus not "true demons" and those can leave hell

Or we have a really compelling reason to enter hell, and trying to find a way out to escape is it's own challenge

[foggy seal]

that's a neat idea actually

[craggy willow]

so why are there ||wolf statues in the cosmic realm? eternal and dlcs also had ghostly wolves||

[solar crown]

Because dogs are cool

[midnight burrow]

||could be an implication that sentinels went to war with the cosmic realm in the past. We know that they helped the wraiths contain the Old One and got their hands on a cosmic realm weapon, so I’m leaning towards that explanation.||

[foggy seal]

That definitely explains why is there an entire facility around it built for containment