#speedrunning
thorn cape
@stiff turret @vapid cloud
lol
very unfortunate death at blue door
@coarse otter i believe coffee was telling about TNT map09 NM100s the other day..?
well, i started grinding it again last week, above is the tied furthest attempt ive gotten
stiff turret
oof...
vapid cloud
oof
golden stream
oof
thorn cape
what was the message 🤔
vapid cloud
I was just saying that Im looking forward to the day you finally beat this level
thorn cape
I am too 🙂
cerulean anvil
I speedrunned map01 in doom 2 on UV
vapid cloud
Im getting really tired of go2it nightmare
There is no viable route
Its just ... try to survive
coarse otter
There is no viable route
Well First you must pray to God and Allah and Budha and Zeus and all of em Religion Dudes and then you gotta play Go2It and not die, if you die pray better.
And I mean pray not play
vapid cloud
Ah thanks 
coarse otter
Tbh I tried Go2It nightmare way back and never got past the first cyberdemon using one of the WR speedrunner’s route (can’t remember his name). But yeah never tried it again.
vapid cloud
Ive already got past the first 2 cybers, but the 3rd one, fuck the 3rd one
coarse otter
Do you kill them or try to run past and hit the button/doors?
vapid cloud
In nightmare, running past them is not an option
coarse otter
Oh nvm I remembered things wrong I was trying to do Go 2 It UV pacifist using Stx Vile’s route and I couldn’t get past the Cybers
my mistake
vapid cloud
Oh, sounds equally painfull
coarse otter
Yeah just getting past one Cyber was impossible without monsters for it to infight.
the mancubus would be an option but he’d die too quick
shrewd siren
Is 14 seconds a good time on E1M1
coarse otter
ehhh it’s faster than average I’d say?
vapid cloud
WR is 8s. A good time for a begginner, imo is 12
coarse otter
^
The E1M1 Leaderboards are funny in Speedrun.com so many 199th places (which are the 12s runners).
coarse otter
Oh true how come?
vapid cloud
Are you asking what dsdarchive is?
coarse otter
No I mean how come Speedrun.com is a joke compared to Dsdarchive?
vapid cloud
Because it has a lot of obviasly fake runs
coarse otter
oh oof
vapid cloud
Someone here (I think it was coffeguy) found a run of nuts.wad where the runner didnt use infinitely tall monsters and just ran above everything. It was hilarious to watch
coarse otter
Bruhh...
Do the Moderators for Classic DOOM on Speedrun.com like not review submitted runs/demos or something?
vapid cloud
They cant review the demos because the runs are uploaded using youtube
Video proof is all they need
vapid cloud
And still aprove runs that are obviously fake
coarse otter
Welp I know where I’m submitting runs if I ever get into DOOM speedrunning. Sucks though that Speedrun.com is the popular website people think of when they think speedrunning in general.
stiff turret
Someone here (I think it was coffeguy) found a run of nuts.wad where the runner ...
yep, was me
stiff turret
Welp I know where I’m submitting runs if I ever get into DOOM speedrunning. Suck...
ya want to see the vid?
coarse otter
ya want to see the vid?
yeah
coarse otter
lmao, poor first dude in the comments congratulating the guy, if I had seen this on plain old youtube I would’ve thought it was just a parody or a joke, but this was actually submitted and accepted on speedrun.com?
stiff turret
before I knew about dsdarchive I tried submitting a run, pacifist in 41 seconds and i got 2nd
and yeah it got accepted
hm that's strange, it's not on the leaderboards anymore
coarse otter
Huh really?
stiff turret
ah, I think they updated the rules
coarse otter
The fake speedrun’s not there anymore?
coarse otter
ah welp that’s something I suppose. But damn I would’ve thought that the Moderators for the Classic DOOM section of the site would be better at weeding out the fake runs.
Especially for something so obvious lmao.
stiff turret
it also seemed like he was bhopping too, I don't think that whenever you jump you can get a speed boost like that
thorn cape
idk why I did this
also 2 more rocket launcher deaths on ev09 yesterday lol
it's morning so will grind more today
so close to getting this mfing level done LOL it's been too long
then I can go back to more fun NM runs
will be doing plep2ns
vague coral
ah welp that’s something I suppose. But damn I would’ve thought that the Moderat...
I remember that on Speedrun.com I tried to get my first run in, 8 seconds on Entryway. Even if I used PRBoom+ with complevel 2 it got declined for using Delta Touch and not the official port.
thorn cape
I remember that on Speedrun.com I tried to get my first run in, 8 seconds on Ent...
that's because you definitely submitted it to the unity port leaderboards
and for the unity port leaderboards you need to use the unity port, lol
I have a run on DSDA using delta touch LOL
but yeah SRC is not the official leaderboard for doom unless we are talking about unity port speedrunning
thorn cape
There is no viable route
there's a non-yolo route, check JCDs plep2ns in 27 minutes
still tricky but I mean if you want exit and don't care for time then sure go for this
vapid cloud
Hmm I will check it out, thx
vapid cloud
https://youtu.be/eqR7nEgkO8g
I didnt know this level could be beaten so quickly. Nice run 👏
thorn cape
Thanks :^)
thorn cape
that's weird
they definitely thought you were using the mobile unity port then
which is weird, since you were using delta touch
I guess a mod just mistook it
thorn cape
3 post rocket launcher deaths today on ev09ns, one was at the blue door
thorn cape
4 post rocket launcher deaths in the span of 51 attempts today
holy SHIT
today was insane, maybe I'll grind more later
stiff turret
nice
vague coral
I guess a mod just mistook it
Probably.
thorn cape
another blue door death on ev09ns today
thorn cape
Thanks 😄
Here's a small ev09 diversion:
https://youtu.be/Vx0ZjlzFWnQ
I'll grind more ev09 tomorrow
Here was that death btw
vapid cloud
I think Ive seen you run that map before 
vapid cloud
Here's a small ev09 diversion:
https://youtu.be/Vx0ZjlzFWnQ
.
hexed oriole
thorn cape
I think Ive seen you run that map before <:doomguy_thonk:325578262929604609>
Yeah, I had a 14 NM-speed and 24.94 NoMo from a while back :)
I realized that 23 is doable a month or 2 back, but never tried
thorn cape
thorn cape
been continuing with those post rocket launcher deaths on ev09
soon, exit will be soon I'm sure 🙂
stiff turret
stiff turret
almost there, though :)
gonna grind some e1m3 nm100s rn :^)
thorn cape
Good luck 😄
stiff turret
man, I had a good run that was annihilated due to a respawned imp right beside me :/
oh man, got the the blue key then promptly died ;-;
that was my 33rd attempt
soulsphere death
does this ever get consistent?
out of my 37 attempts, this is the most successful one
stiff turret
Only 37? Bruh... That's not that many, you can do this easily :p
Yeah, I was at school but now that I'm home, I can grind this run with a mouse 
So far i rhink I pushed about 150+ attempts into this
It's not too bad, the starting room might be the roughest part actually
thorn cape
Grinding with... trackpad? bobbed
Yeah once you get to the soulsphere the rest is fine
stiff turret
yeah ik bobbed
thorn cape
Im getting extra frustrated from ev09 today
Every single day gets past the rocket launcher at least once
somehow, this consistency is doing nothing
stiff turret
rip :(
vapid cloud
thorn cape
Ended up grinding random ass runs for the rest of the day
next time if I get pissed, I'll not waste my time doing 10 things for 5 minutes each, but instead start learning plep2 or play 20x7 or something :p
thorn cape
taken a couple days off from doom cause i have the flu
but its mostly better now
ev09 ill continue whenever, ive started learning plep2ns and have practiced north glides for it
thorn cape
yeah it was secret exit in 0:07
which is like 500x harder than regular exit in 0:23
but 22 regular exit is impossible so :p
stiff turret
WR? 👀
yeah WR, on leaderboards 4shock has a record of 24.86
wow, nearly a 1 second improvement
thorn cape
yeah, im optimizing scythe nomos with him down to each second
stiff turret
nice
thorn cape
he sent me a TAS of 31 in 23 and i said yea ill get it
might as well have both 31s :p
im also getting 6 on map02 probably
stiff turret
TAS 22 is definitely possible right? Or no?
thorn cape
oh for sure
but the tas he made was like a human limit TAS, he just made it to show that the record can go down to 23
stiff turret
oh I see
thorn cape
he only segmented, thats it
stiff turret
so not the weird janky ones with jerky mouse movements 
true pulsar
if that's ultimate doom in a browser then the website that hosts it breaks the law
if it's just the first episode then it's ok since that is the shareware version
just sayin'
stiff turret
if that's ultimate doom in a browser then the website that hosts it breaks the l...
I don't really think so since it uses dosbox emulators
and it's most likely an older version of the game than the official 1.9 update now
frank jolt
golden stream
thorn cape
@vapid cloud are you still trying pl32ns 🤨
if you're interested I can send a demo of the most consistent route, but take note that it's about 6-7 minutes 🙃
but idk if you want exit or a fast time or whatever
learnt it while practicing plep2ns, map32 is done pistol start in that run anyway but it plays almost the same without death exiting in 31 anyway
also, stasis, waiting on that n1s3 :^)
vapid cloud
<@439722592249839617> are you still trying pl32ns 🤨
I gave up 
I suck at 2 bfging cybers
thorn cape
damn
well it is harder in pl32ns, fast cybers plus a small space 😄
In the consistent route you kill the 3 cybers in the corridor by rockets or >2 BFG shots by playing it safe and spam firing
The key parts are retrieving the blue key and getting to the blue switch
Then the ending just needs a little bit of luck
vapid cloud
The level is just too hard for me in NM
thorn cape
You want to try UV-fasting it? :P
I don't like UV-fast too much but damn pl32f is really fun
thorn cape
I'd like to see you have a go at it, pl32ns either requires a really slow time or luck :p
thorn cape
Maybe you could try ultimate doom NMS or doom II NMS if you want to improve your skills
E1M6 was where I started :p
vapid cloud
What about E1M3 NMs
stiff turret
also, stasis, waiting on that n1s3 :^)
yep, working on it
stiff turret
I gave up <:ultrakappa:854310774537191434>
told you
thorn cape
What about E1M3 NMs <:doomguy_grin:242282176853311488>
One of the hardest of ultimate doom, you want to try it first? :P
thorn cape
yep, working on it
nice :^)
thorn cape
I think when I started I did e1m6, e4m2, e1m3 and then e4m1
nah you should try it 🙂
get to the soulsphere safely and then the rest can't go that wrong
vapid cloud
I will try it, but probably going too give up aswell
Im been interested in heretic runs lately tho. Have you tried any?
thorn cape
I don't have heretic :utka:
vapid cloud
stiff turret
gahhh
soulsphere death
cuz pinky :/
man another good run ruined
I think so far I've got 300 attempts into this run
stiff turret
NOOOOOOOOO
omg...
most successful attempt so far
tried getting to the yellow key secret...
i feel broken
done with trackpad because currently at school, so no access to a mouse
thorn cape
Rip D:
stiff turret
i think I'm getting close though
after a few more attempts im pretty sure I can crush this run
at the rate I was going I probably would've pushed the 4 minute mark
thorn cape
vapid cloud
Damn your movement is so good
thorn cape
thanks :^)
also, plep2 progress 👀
this is a 32-20 movie, in 11:24
going to practice 12, 13 and 31 a bit more before attempts from 11
pale rock
if that's ultimate doom in a browser then the website that hosts it breaks the l...
I saw this website, believe me or not it's actually a full ultimate doom 1.9
true pulsar
I saw this website, believe me or not it's actually a full ultimate doom 1.9
then that's piracy
pale rock
yea it is
rotund pagoda
What device the do you speedrun doom on?
stiff turret
laptop
thorn cape
uh.. PC lol
if you mean sourceport, then I use dsda-doom 0.19.7
vapid cloud
I use dsda-doom 0.21.3 (latest)
vapid cloud
uh.. PC lol
if you mean sourceport, then I use dsda-doom 0.19.7
Why are you using an old version?
thorn cape
can't be bothered to switch
thorn cape
golden stream
your movement’s insane, gg
thorn cape
Thanks :^)
golden stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj3oVOjKLIo I did this on the unity port with controller
smoky lynx
thorn cape
golden stream
I got so tilted at this IL but it was still fun. Might aim for a lower time soon. https://youtu.be/CRWSecFaxVI
thorn cape
@white path for e1m1-009, your movement looks fine
the route you take in the waste room is slow, though 😄
you should try to go straight through everything, through the middle
requires more luck but straighter lines=more time saved
also, for the start, you should turn to the right instead of holding W and then strafing right
turn to the right, strafe left through the pillars
also, as you may have seen in the three 8 second demos... make sure to face towards the switch for the exit
practically, this saves time
not required for 9, but some frames are nice
white path
okay thank you so much @thorn cape
thorn cape
np
stiff turret
if anyone knows e1m1 here, it's no one else but aconfusedhuman
gave him ptsd trying to get that 8
I've tried getting a 9 before but I quit, deciding I had better runs to do like E1M3 NM100S
speaking of which, I still need to work on that
I had a major fail in the last room, butI think after a few more attempts I can squeeze through
it took PBeGood4 around 2k attempts to get a 9.8
thorn cape
waiting for e1m3 coffee :p
Maybe some plutonia ILs? 🤨
07, 17, 27 are good starts :)
Speaking of NM100s, I got a 31-20 run on plep2ns today, improving on my 2 32-20 runs :p
stiff turret
waiting for e1m3 coffee :p
ye working on it, I had a failed attempt I uploaded
white path
i still havent figured out how to use xdre
thorn cape
nice
thorn cape
i still havent figured out how to use xdre
golden stream
thorn cape
never heard of such a joke before
thorn cape
https://youtu.be/beFFaarVFlA
GG :^)
heavy fjord
Shitposting.😩
winter summit
Speedrunning doom in doom eternal be like
stiff turret
Good progress in E1M3 NM100S
I think I'm getting a bit more consistent
I can pretty much always get to the room before the soulsphere now
if I'm fast enough so respawns don't fuck me up
😒
zinc grove
Nice
thorn cape
zinc grove
Nice
golden stream
golden stream
Thanks 👍
vague coral
https://youtu.be/UThIAPUrmk4
Nice, I actually can only get a 7
gritty tundra
is it legal to make a macro for sr50
thorn cape
as in, hold one button+strafing keys and be in SR50?
If so, then nope, that's not allowed for demos
the 2 ways to SR50 are hold strafing keys+strafe on key+turn key, or strafing keys+strafe on key and move your mouse the direction of the sr50
gritty tundra
what I'm imagining is setting one button to be "strafe, strafe on, turn" all at once. tbhhhhhhhh I might do that anyway cuz I'm not doing demos
then again, I've still never had to sr50
thorn cape
yes that's not allowed but if it's casual play then sure, there's no rules for that 😛
gritty tundra
the only reason that I'd use sr50 is for a secret. I don't need the extra what, 25 % speed for combat. so I feel less bad about cheesing it. Oh I'm literally in the speedrunning channel. my bad lol
golden stream
white path
whats the best time saves on doom2 full game, my time now is about 28minutes
thorn cape
there's so many skips I could list and I don't even run doom II.. you should watch the fastest times from the current 17:29 and even down to the slower times like 25 min to get an idea for it. You should join the Hell on Earth server, you are 100x more likely to get an answer there than here, lol
watch the fastest times, and if you have a question then you can ask
and also if I don't even know your route I can't really tell you what to improve on 🙃
vapid cloud
whats the best time saves on doom2 full game, my time now is about 28minutes
Thats a very impressive time. UV speed?
white path
no haha i forgot to say that i play on ITYTD speed XD
@thorn cape maybe i'll get to recording a demo of my run
thorn cape
stiff turret
nice
white path
is there any way to make prboom look nicer
white path
where's the setting
vapid cloud
options -> general
vapid cloud
Thats the aspect ration
white path
oh
maybe i will
the mouse movement is so unsmooth in newer source ports, like in dosbox or chocolate doom its smooth but crispy doom and prboom+ its so jagged
oh i fixed it too
stiff turret
the mouse movement is so unsmooth in newer source ports, like in dosbox or choco...
Yeah it's called short tics
Where the turning resolution is turned down
Usually sourceports default to long tics for standard play because it provides a smoother turning experience
When recording demos for speedrunning for example however, short tics are forced because that's vanilla
thorn cape
thorn cape
you mean north glide? :P
Yeah it took a while heh, happens
I'm a bit stupid for doing this run on my 100s bat file.. now my splits have been messed up 🙃
thorn cape
Yes
well, that's what I assume.. idk the details, I just execute the tricks and they work 😛
vapid cloud
stiff turret
well, that's what I assume.. idk the details, I just execute the tricks and they work 😛
Don't question it, just do it 😏
thorn cape
thorn cape
yeah the time isn't that fast, I could definitely beat it but this was just a table filler, as in a run just to fill the leaderboard as there was no NM100s run previously 😄
thanks
vapid cloud
https://youtu.be/cw3plchNawM
Was Plutonia so easy that you now want a bigger chalenge?
golden stream
This was the best I could do with this route https://youtu.be/7Rk3xP5Rl04
glacial saddle
Good job 👍
golden stream
does anyone know how to do this trick because i dont understand it at all https://youtu.be/5cyA_6yqVvs
glacial saddle
Sorry pal I don't know
golden stream
because if i can get this trick then i could easily save over 5s
thorn cape
according to the description it seems you just need an exact amount of health and just enter the teleporter with that for an instant exit, at least for sub 11
I don't know how the map goes, I haven't played ev24 in months.. best to experiment yourself a bit
white path
it doesnt say on the xdre topic on the forums if i can watch demos at normal speed on xdre
fossil locust
ionic quarry
Ok guys, this is classic doom but not exactly a speedrun except when I'm invulnerable at the start.
Going Down Map 15, Gladiator, has a kind invulnerability to help me take down the Roman horde without taking any damage. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/XIQ80cNr_mU
glacial saddle
Good job I don't wanna think how long that took
ionic quarry
Good job I don't wanna think how long that took
Thanks, not as long as I was expecting for the successful demo. The video needed quite a bit of cutting because of camera mode for the monsters.
thorn cape
@strong patrol you might want to watch this, took 20 minutes lmao
e2m6 pacifist
ive improved a shit ton since back in the day 🙃
stiff turret
<@!590438821968216064> you might want to watch this, took 20 minutes lmao
holy shit
thorn cape
@stiff turret also i rewatched your n1s3 fail near the end
And, in the blue door room, why do you advance to the regular exit? Lol
just get the secret and the goodies at the yellow door, then go for the secret exit, it's free with the amount of health you had
That could have been an easy win if you routed it right :p
vapid cloud
<@!590438821968216064> you might want to watch this, took 20 minutes lmao
My pb in this level is 26s
Nice run 👍
stiff turret
And, in the blue door room, why do you advance to the regular exit? Lol
Isn't the linedef that activates that door around that area or can you just open it?
If I can just open it then i'm just really, really stupid
That really could've been the demo that finished it
thorn cape
ya you can just open it :p
vapid cloud
it's been 4 months :^)
hmm well
Ive been playing Ancient Aliens, so for now I'll just keep playing normally
Someone stole my Sigil e3m1 and e3m2 UV-speed wrs, so I will probably try to take them back soon
stiff turret
ya you can just open it :p
fml
vapid cloud
jk I'll probably never run sigil 🙂
Its pretty fun
The first levels at least
The others can get pretty chaotic
vapid cloud
Wait that a WR?
thorn cape
well yes by 0.3s but I'm not uploading it
I'll upload a run if I get 14
also had a few 13 paces that failed at the switch
also here's a 13.86 nomo
not too bad
stiff turret
Wow
vapid cloud
white path
ffs i hate this run
awesome, hope you get 14 soon
thorn cape
heh, I'm not grinding it anymore, depravity got 14 and then got a 13 afterwards :)
white path
also how do i perform the zero press on map 15, like is there vertical mouse movement included or something?
thorn cape
the thing about this run is that even the 13 doesn't look that fast
it's just so obnoxious, if you see the 13 it's like "oh 12 must be doable"
his best was like low 15 for ages but he beat the NM record on UV which is insane, as NM is more consistent 🙂
thorn cape
also how do i perform the zero press on map 15, like is there vertical mouse mov...
get the correct angle so that you are drifting slowly to the left, then get the correct position and hold/tap W and spam
white path
okay thanks
white path
the thing about this run is that even the 13 doesn't look that fast
was the 13s switch instant or close to instant
thorn cape
the 13s had a slow start, generically fast glide and then a very fast switch
it's just such a shit run lol
I'm not sad that he got it first, I'm really happy that I don't have to do it :p
white path
:D
i guess getting 12s is for someone who is patient with grinding a level over and over
thorn cape
12s is possible but insanely hard
unless he wants to pick it up again I don't see it happening :^)
the NoMo is 12.97 and that's already insane, but then add monster RNG and it's just more bs than it already is 😄
but yeah, I only did this run because it was one of the first runs I grinded, and my best came out to be 17.89.. feels good to get 4 15s in 2 days after trying it again :p
vapid cloud
heh, I'm not grinding it anymore, depravity got 14 and then got a 13 afterwards ...
Depr4v is an absolute legend
Still you should upload your run
Its a very impressive time
thorn cape
eh, maybe
thorn cape
why are you posting this in this channel
vapid cloud
ik Zero Mater is a god, but did you know that he holds the WR for every Plutonia UV-Max run (except map30 and map32)
white path
i got the zero press down
stiff turret
Nice
quasi bay
E2m6 is such a grindy and dumb run but for some reason it's fun
oh god e2m6 is pain
stiff turret
is anyone here
No, it isn't possible
thorn cape
stiff ocean
Ultimate Doom E1M1 10:11 seconds
narrow crystal
10 seconds?
stiff turret
@stiff ocean damn, if not for that exit door you could've gotten a 9
Even with auto SR50 getting a 9 is still pretty impressive due to the stupid levels of RNG
thorn cape
golden stream
https://youtu.be/yQXsoXlFGy4
pov: youre late to school in Nevada
oblique isle
Everyone here has peyronies!
limber parcel
how could I go about making a door require multiple switches to open?
thorn cape
stiff turret
stiff turret
Thanks, and yeah I've delayed it for far longer than I should've
Took i think 3 months? Or less maybe, I forgot
I think it's most probably under 1k attempts though
vague coral
You finally managed to do it
golden stream
gg!
stiff turret
complementary video to go with that
I didn't notice that some frames were bugged out but at this point I'm not waiting another 10-15 minutes to viddump another demo
if anyone is wondering, that's the Ultimate MIDI Pack for Ultimate Doom
errant acorn
Ok but how do u even record demos ?
stiff turret
Ok but how do u even record demos ?
-recorddemo demoname.imp or just -record demoname.imp
thorn cape
nice :^)
stiff ocean
lofty ibex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dstnDUOmPto
wow that is good brother
vapid cloud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2R7w99aU4M
yooo finally
stiff turret
yep :)
sorry for OPL2 font, FluidSynth wasn't cooperating
the Ultimate MIDI pack sounds so much better in FluidSynth than OPL2
thorn cape
oh yeah, and speaking of nightmare, I'll have plutonia ep2 nm100s done soon probably
getting to map31/32 isn't that hard anymore, and map31 and 16-20 aren't that bad
it's a matter of not dying in 12 or 32 😄
thorn cape
yeah it sux a bit :^)
the main thing is the blue door fight
as you know, I can't yolo the map like in the IL.. I need to take a much more consistent route but getting the blue key and the blue door fight are still a bit luck based :)
vapid cloud
Dodging fast Cyberdemon rockets in a small room
dense vigil
Nightmare is a pain Xbox arcade version had a achievement for running the first level of doom 1 and 2 on nightmare
vapid cloud
Imagine an achievement for running e1m3 on nightmare with 100% secrets
Scared Coffeeguy noises
stiff turret
E1M3 pained me but it was worth it
I also have no idea why I tried for like 45 minutes to get a 9 on E1M1
I did like 417 attempts before I gave up
dense vigil
I also have no idea why I tried for like 45 minutes to get a 9 on E1M1
E1m3 that’s the toxin refinery right
stiff turret
E1m3 that’s the toxin refinery right
Mhm
dense vigil
Mhm
Sorry miss reading it use the switch at the corner we’re the shotgun guys are to open the door then bolt it till your were the armor is then run through the secret door and troughs the other door till you see the exit open the door and hit the switch e1m1 done may take few attempts but it’s straight forward
stiff turret
Sorry miss reading it use the switch at the corner we’re the shotgun guys are to...
Um
Ofc it's straight forward
The challenge is getting it within 9 seconds
On Ultra-Violence
It's way harder than it sounds...
stiff turret
🙂
Funny thing was that I had a pace for a 9 a couple of times but ending door ruined that
Since I wasn't gonna try my RNG for a straight run through the toxic room I just did the thomas pilger strat of running around
stiff turret
Sorry miss reading it use the switch at the corner we’re the shotgun guys are to...
Also that's not the strat used in an IL
That's an episode run
golden stream
my pb is 10.37, nowhere near getting a 9
stiff turret
so far I think I've gotten a 10.20
if I did a straight run instead of doing what thomas did, I could lower it(and a few other things)
but I'm not patient enough for that kind of RNG to happen
golden stream
im on controller, so idk how fast i can move. i think i can roughly do sr40, but im not very sure
stiff turret
the only tough thing I have to figure out on KB+TP is how much to move the mouse during screen wipe so I'm in perfect position to SR50 straight for first door
because I average 2.4 for first door
golden stream
i cant do that on xbox one, which sucks because it could probably save me some time
stiff turret
which is pretty terrible
thorn cape
2.4 first door? that's a lotta damage D:
stiff turret
yeah... ik
thorn cape
surprising you are getting 9s with that 🤔
I think I was averaging 2.1 when I got 9 for the first time
I guess the rest of your run is faster in comparison
stiff turret
I would be surprised if I got a 9 with that even which is why I said I need to imrpove it
cuz there's basically no way unless I get insane 2nd and 3rd door
if it ever were to be a 9, it'd be off by 1 tic probably
Pedro had a 2.26 first door
I need to get it down a lot because for such a short run 0.3-0.4 seconds is massive(If I were to ever grind this level which is probably no, looking for 2.00 or 2.1 first door)
thorn cape
yeah 2.0-2.1 is ideal for 9
tbh, p1m1-008 isn't the hardest thing I've done :p
it's sc31so007.. that's harder, surprisingly
scythe map31 secret exit NoMo, that is, I was grinding it for a couple weeks in august/sept
thorn cape
:^)
anyway for now I gotta stop getting distracted by random runs and get plep2ns done :^)
i get to map31 at least once every time I grind, and that's about only 15 attempts of a "grind".. just need to not be lazy :p
died in map32 quite a bit, too, after map32 the runs almost done pretty much
vapid cloud
Getting a fast first door on e1m1 is just too painful
sr50ing between the 2 pillars is so inconsistant that I just prefer to sr40
stiff turret
finding the angle is easy but actually turning to that angle during screenwipe is hard
I don't get it nearly 90% of the time
I might just have to grind more and git gud
thorn cape
9 not good enough for you, PB? 🤨
I think it's now a good opportunity to run better levels :^)
vapid cloud
Im never going to try speedrunning e1m1 ever again
Im more than happy with my 9
I want to run sigil again tho
2 of my wrs on sigil were stolen and I gotta take them back
thorn cape
dam
tomorrow I think is time to start plep2 properly again now, I think it's time to finish it finally 🙃
Low effort table filler, I might try to get an optimized time which I guess is around 1:30, uses the AVJ and yolos the secret fight
shouldn't be that hard but the AVJ would be annoying
stiff turret
9 not good enough for you, PB? 🤨
I was about to make a joke about PBe being the next person to get an 8
formal canopy
sub 2:25:000 Fire God Says No Cheating (Slam Dance With The Sun God) BTSXEp II secret level
https://youtu.be/xYD7LRPuKa0
still can be improved. Controller ran on Xbox Unity Port. Overall lots of mistakes still. sub 2:20:000 could be possible
stiff turret
Wouldn't UVany% just be UV-Speed?
formal canopy
I just go by what it was listed as when i used to put up runs for the game on speedrun.com. I dont make the categories. I just ran them. but yes, if you are gunna be that guy... sure why not.. call it that then if it makes you feel better on the inside. I have not been on the website now for a long time. I just did the run for fun. Removed even all my times from the site even on Hydro thunder (ps1, and N64 and a few other things) also i dont say this with hostility, i am just yanking your crank. you prob are right cause the categories got updated im sure or something.
golden stream
yeah uv-speed is literally just any% but on uv, as long as you specify if the run’s meant for a different category (e.g. uv-max or pacifist), then it won’t be confused. you can still keep putting uv-any%, but uv-speed is the common name for it. also, why not submit your runs to src? it’s wr by 15s on the unity board and your video’s valid
stiff turret
probably just wants to run for fun and doesn't care about records
golden stream
yeah that’s fair enough. was only a suggestion
golden stream
I just go by what it was listed as when i used to put up runs for the game on sp...
It is listed as uv speed on speedrun.com
formal canopy
It is listed as uv speed on speedrun.com
im honestly not Surprised it is. also thanks @golden stream for the info cause next time ill prob actually type it out as that.
@stiff turret Dont do it cause once someone who is actually decent or more players that are decent start to run against my times,it gets to me too much. I personally dont handle defeat to well and will put an extensive amount of time competing and it brings my mental state down as I feel like a failure if im even second place. So i decided to just play for myself and nothing else
stiff turret
im honestly not Surprised it is. also thanks <@456226577798135808> for the info ...
yeah, I get that, as I assumed
you just wanted to run for fun and not compete
formal canopy
yeah, I get that, as I assumed
yep, exactly. I get to competitive, learned that from Venice Canals in Hydro Thunder on PSX. My negativity doesnt help the community grow so I just stay out for the good sports. Not fair to them so. ^::^
I appreciate you guys checking out the run though, Thank you all!
golden stream
im honestly not Surprised it is. also thanks <@456226577798135808> for the info ...
just watching out for u man doom speedrunners can be pretty pretentious and salty people when it comes to saying the wrong thing 😦
golden stream
im honestly not Surprised it is. also thanks <@456226577798135808> for the info ...
yeah that’s totally fair dude, just keep doing what you enjoy, you don’t have to submit any times if you don’t want to.
golden stream
formal canopy
@golden stream i appreciate it. ill certainly update the title if i can achieve the sub 2:20:000 with the rocket boost strats
golden stream
stiff turret
@rose jasper if someone opens the door to a plane or a window gets shattered, don't worry Hollywood is just fucking r*tarded
No one of nothing is gonna get sucked out
The pressure in the cabin will just equalize with the pressure outside
formal canopy
<@847850939268071485> if someone opens the door to a plane or a window gets shat...
was there not a pilot who got sucked out of a broken windshield? the flight engineer if i recall or something supposedly was able to grab him and hold on to him with the pressure of the wind pressing him against the outside and they landed. and he had some case of frostbite or close to even but managed to recover. if its actually true i have no idea but im pretty sure there is a story of that.
i should look into it against cause ya. probably is fake but i dont remember honestly
thorn cape
formal canopy
excuse me @subtle horizon The current Any% of BTSXEp II level 31 lists in the description that the difficulty is HMP on speedrun dot com however the video clearly lists UV diff and secondly. There are two arachnotrons to the left of spawn on TWO god modes. HMP has 1 plasmatron and 3 god modes. Please correct the description as it is wrong. Unless the map was updated at a certain point which i doubt. This takes two seconds to check.. this is not my run but it is factually incorrect information in the description. the video lists UV, the level has purely UV placements and not HMP. two seconds to check and the mod couldnt be bothered.. yikes
i wouldnt look either. HMP is stupid l;ol
subtle horizon
I appreciate the insight and will look into this when I get a moment. Mistakes happen, so I apologize for any inconvenience
formal canopy
np, im just bugging ya. i have never touched HMP on the map until now just to literally check that so. dont freet man
subtle horizon
That may have been a mistake from when we were getting 50-80 runs in 2 days due to a mass push from some of the higher level runners
formal canopy
i personally blame tomatotom then lol jk god damn bstard getting all those impressive runs! lmao
but very much would appreciate the fix whenever you have time just to properly describe the players settings in the run.
thanks again!
subtle horizon
I had a little time to fix that, figured it would have been a bit more so I could verify that everything said was true. I have removed the run. Moving forward, we would request that you message us directly instead of calling us out like we did something wrong on purpose:
"the video lists UV, the level has purely UV placements and not HMP. two seconds to check and the mod couldnt be bothered.. yikes"
This just makes everyone involved look bad and it felt like you were targeting me just to do it. Keep in mind mods are volunteers, I have not played every level on every difficulty, so I would have missed it. That being said, I should have noticed that the video itself mentioned UV.
formal canopy
eh np then. my apologies.
formal canopy
just beat my crappy run on UV with a 2:23:140 for slam dance with the sun god (UV Speed/ANY%) now its just a little less crappy kind of lol
golden stream
I had a little time to fix that, figured it would have been a bit more so I coul...
Agreed with this. If anyone has issues with a run on the board, message us instead of calling us out like this. It's disrespectful.
thorn cape
stiff turret
nice
rose jasper
<@847850939268071485> if someone opens the door to a plane or a window gets shat...
I was joking I’m not afraid but I was in a plane
golden stream
Who feels like raiding a gacha sever
frozen monolith
how do i get started with speedrunning
what sourceport do i use, i tried crispy doom and woof but they feel weird, how do i even record demos etc
formal canopy
how do i get started with speedrunning
what sourceport do i use, i tried crispy ...
if you are competing for WR ask another runner on the platform you are interested in, or just ask a moderator privately and say could you point me in the direction to get started please? (pc i dont know the setup or id help if i could, i only ran Hydro thunder on my PC for a PSX Emu)
If you want to run console on unity, you can ask me in DMs and I can provide you with the answers.
I recommend practice in general if you are aiming for WR or it can feel terrible doing tons of runs and failing if you are highly competitive, if you want to just run and see what you can do, there is no harm in just practicing and running and submitting the one(s) you feel good about.
i also ran the 360 version of Doom so i can help if thats the one you want to run (its not a unity port) also i can help ps3 lol forgot about that XD though seems you want PC, so just ask someone how can i get started
frozen monolith
yeah im using pc
golden stream
im only familiar with the console ports, so i cant help, sorry
formal canopy
same boat sadly as scuffed or id love to help. Id ask one of the mods of the speedrun dot com as they will probably be very willing to help.
golden stream
dsdarchive is the norm for doom pc ports speedrunning (excluding unity), i think there’s a discord server for it but i dont know the invite for it
found it! it’s “zNxGGKQ”. copy and paste that and you can join the server @frozen monolith
i’d recommended asking them since there’s a lot of experienced players in there
formal canopy
^ 💯 👍
frozen monolith
found it! it’s “zNxGGKQ”. copy and paste that and you can join the server <@2513...
thanks
golden stream
nws
formal canopy
so I have one question, say if the max time for god mode is 1:20 seconds. i am assuming it will only go up to 1:20 seconds even if you pick up two spheres one after another and the timer will not go to 2:40 corrrect?
for O.G doom. of course
golden stream
the timer gets reset when you pick up a new invuln.
formal canopy
i figured as much, thanks for the confirmation though @golden stream
stiff turret
so I have one question, say if the max time for god mode is 1:20 seconds. i am a...
Mhm, it resets the timer
It doesn't stack
stiff turret
how do i get started with speedrunning
what sourceport do i use, i tried crispy ...
Use DSDA-Doom to speedrun, it's basically the most widely-used sourceport because it was specifically geared for it
To record a demo, use the -recorddemo parameter
So like -recorddemo (name of demo).imp
Or -record is also fine iirc
Pro tip, do speedruns you enjoy
Don't speedrun E1M1
The Hell On Earth server is where you should ask any more questions if you have em, thay's where the pros hang out
formal canopy
one more tip, dont be ashamed to play the level on the easiest mode or no monster to just learn movements of the map or platforms.
stiff turret
This ^
Do practice runs first, get a feel for the level, then speedrun it
Don't jump head first into speedrunning a level without getting a feel for it or knowing some tricks you can perform to save time
formal canopy
otherwise you end up brute forcing your run like i did on slam dance lol
frozen monolith
Don't speedrun E1M1
why
formal canopy
ask the shotgunners lol
formal canopy
its not bad no monsters to practice doors though
stiff turret
And at this point E1M1 speedruns are so optimized that you will never top out the leaderboards unless you really, really grind the shit out of it
formal canopy
^ 💯
stiff turret
aconfusedhuman took about 20k-30k attempts just to get an 8.94, and he's one of the best
PBeGood4 took about 2k attempts to get a 9.80
hoary stump
Hi friends, I made a guide on how to SR50 in Classic Doom. Let me know what you think 
As an aside, this is specifically for vanilla doom. The unity port allows for 2 key SR50, so this video doesn’t apply to that version
hoary stump
Thanks! I hope others find it helpful
thorn cape
ayo meowgi didn't know you were in this server 😂
hoary stump
Yeah I don’t participate much, but I didnt realize there was a classic doom speedrunninng channel, so may need to keep it on my watch list 👀
thorn cape
:^)
opal coral
@golden streamHey just wanted to let you know we got dsd archives whitelisted from the bot, so you're free to post those links now
golden stream
alr thanks 👍
formal canopy
https://youtu.be/EqalLTUKjKc IT HAS HAPPENED! SUB 2:20:000 on Fire King Says no Cheating/Slam Dance With Helios-San
*title has been fixed on yt (its 2:11:800 haha oops)
stiff turret
Niceee
formal canopy
this time also confirms a sub 2:10:000 is possible though
golden stream
Really wanted a sub 10, but didn't get one 2 hours after I got my first 10.02, might revisit this one soon.
golden stream
Thanks, also got sub 10 Any% and UV-Pacifist, will grind for a good NM time tomorrow.
formal canopy
did a few runs myself just to get the feel of the level after watching you play. certainly well done on your end. i only got a 10.80 but you def had a really solid run. Congratts! (not competing just wanted to see some of the trouble you might have experienced to get your time so)
golden stream
It’s an easy level but it’s hard to do optimally, so 10.80 ain’t bad, GG!
golden stream
Ayy, finally completed a good enough run
https://youtu.be/Gnxff0u4gIs
formal canopy
o another snazzy run. gg
thorn cape
My elder brother got into doom a couple weeks ago, and I guess he's starting to do some demo recording :p
told him to try e1m3 next 😛
thorn cape
E1M6 isn't bad yeah
grinding for record probably sucks though
every NM IL seems to be either have great movement with a thousand enemies in your way or hitscan.. movies are better 😛
no need to yolo everything :^)
stiff turret
the only tricky part so far I have is just waiting for the door to open with the shotgunners, but I'll improvise a strat for that
I hink what I was doing wrong was taking the key right away instead of waiting a bit
so instead of dealing with the huge trap, I deal with just a few zombiemen until the door opens up
stiff turret
oh wow his ending was kinda lucky
vapid cloud
told him to try e1m3 next 😛
👀
My brothers dont like Doom because "it has bad graphics"
proceeds to play roblox
stiff turret
LMAO
cold basin
My brothers dont like Doom because "it has bad graphics"
i feel like people should judge a game by the game not the graphics
rose jasper
i feel like people should judge a game by the game not the graphics
I agree completely unfortunate most people I know have the opposite mentality
cold basin
yeah
formal canopy
Would anyone be willing to provide me the map from doom builder that provides me the information in the final arena of Slam Dance With The Sun God? I need to know where specifically the Last 3* (last 3 I think or 4) arch viles spawns and where the last massive revenant group spawn around them. I dont care about the Cyber demons as they are not relevant to a strategy I am cooking up to hopefully make a massive time save in the map. (UV diff of course)
The idea is to get the arch viles to boost me over the wall instead of running out and all the way back around but i need to know where those boners and arch viles spawn to see if this is even really plausible without the archviles getting hit. I would be extremely thank ful. I dont have a pc any more I would have no problem doing it myself. PLEASE AND THANK YOU!
golden stream
formal canopy
doom eternal in classic doom. makes sense. pretty sure we have more than enough categories for that but ok. easy to remove, blocked
golden stream
Did you block them because they posted eternal in classic?
Seems a bit harsh lmao. Posts a picture of doomguy in a doom discord and gets blocked
formal canopy
o no i just blocked that messgae, not him.
formal canopy
oya your right. o well. staying blocked anyway. if there are not rules being enforced on the categories, then dick moves like what he pulled happened. plus i dont go into classic doom to have doom eternal crap. i cant stand that game
golden stream
Lmao, it’s not a dick move. It’s a picture of doomguy, you’re overreacting. I don’t like DE either, but I’m not complaining about that
formal canopy
nah my main fgc server doesnt allow for posting of random stuff everywhere. its why we have categories. i mean he can post all the DE stuff he wants. i cant see it. keeps it nice and clean imo
literally a cat down, eternal, two cats up. eternal. a whole section dedicated to eternal chat, lore, horde etc. i dont want to see it, so i solved the problem. not overreacting, normally id call him out for being a twit but thats probably "offensive" so im trying to do the less offendable option here and not get myself in trouble as best i can anyway >.>
golden stream
Blocking someone essentially means that you don’t wanna see any of their messages ever again. I’ve never blocked someone before. You didn’t even give them a chance to defend themselves, maybe they posted that on accident.
formal canopy
eh only useful to defend themselves if i believe them. does this really affect you? why do you care so much? no problem unblocking if the post was removed. its not however. by mods or him so. plus i dont see why we are having this conversation. is trivial and nothing about actual classic doomspeedrunning, this imo should be in dms and not here if anything.
we are clogging this with a unrelated topic to the actual category
golden stream
It doesn’t affect me, but I’m just trying to be nice, I’m defending them. Had no intention on this convo being so long. I just thought it was an unreasonable reason to block someone, so I was just commenting on it, that’s all.
Here, doom.
https://youtu.be/T4sGCJd5pRE
formal canopy
nice switch timing
cedar thunder
cedar thunder
My brothers dont like Doom because "it has bad graphics"
Disowned
golden stream
Thanks. Pressed it on the first possible frame. Surprised that some people got 1:05, that’s insane. Since it’s on a timer, it’s impossible to save time after grabbing the invuln (where the linedef to lower the crushers are)
formal canopy
lucky rocket boost im guessing for the 1:05:000?
im impressed you got the first frame switch though still. was buttery smooth
stiff turret
for some reason I've now decided on speedrunning E1M6 NM100s
I;ve got some good things so far but I can definitely cut it down
golden stream
Nice. I might have to try that IL, doesn’t look that difficult. What time did you get?
stiff turret
so far I've gotten a successful 2:32, that's the lowest I got
implementing new strats, I got to the yellow key at I think... 48 seconds?
I think a sub-2 is definite with the new strats I'm using
stiff turret
oh my god I think I barely clutched a run with like 1% health
I got 1:48 though, huge improvement over my 2:32
14% actually, but in the heat of the moment I only saw the 1
here's the demo:
vapid cloud
14% actually, but in the heat of the moment I only saw the 1
Well I usually see 90 when I only have 9
stiff turret
oof
it only took 189 attempts, but like half of that was restarting becuase I fucked up the beginning or the shotgunners didn't cooperate
or more than half, actually
one of the strats I took from Guiddqd with the shotgunner blocking the door
saved a whole 30 seconds with that
rest of the run was kinda sloppy tho ngl
especially the end, I lost a lot of time there
but oh well
stiff turret
nm runs still scare me tho
they are kinda lol, they require grinding
stares at my E1M3 run
vapid cloud
Isnt it possible to perform a linedef skip in that run?
stiff turret
it is but amongst the chaos of NM, it's not advisable
I'm pretty sure linedefs always need setups, and trying to do one in a NM run with all those enemies around you won't be pretty
if you can do a linedef skip no setup, I'd imagine it would be absolute hell just to save a few seconds at best
golden stream
You can sometimes linedef skip easily, but I think E1M6 is a chunky linedef, so it’s a lot harder to skip, I might be wrong but idk
golden stream
Yeah it’s possible to skip, but I don’t think it’d be viable in a NM run.
https://youtu.be/PwnurjqsDmo
Doesn’t a shotgunner spawn right next to the linedef? Couldn’t you just use them to keep the door open? Could save like 10s or something.
formal canopy
is that not the main strat Karl Jobst talked about in a video or am i misremembering?
stiff turret
Doesn’t a shotgunner spawn right next to the linedef? Couldn’t you just use them...
Mhm, it actually saves 30 seconds, which is huge
You gotta bait them to stand under the door, the walk through the linedef
golden stream
Guiddqd’s runs insane, doesn’t even go for the supercharge
Actually AW’s 1:11 NM time is even more insane
thorn cape
I'd expect Adam's time to be more beatable than guiddqds time, lol
might have to try for record on NM100s maybe 😄
golden stream
I don’t mean that the time is insane, I mean that he went for neither supercharges. It might just be normal for you since you’re a NM100s expert lol, but I suck at UV, let alone NM, so I find that impressive
AW’s ending was slow so ofc it can be improved but it looks really difficult to survive that
stiff turret
Guiddqd’s runs insane, doesn’t even go for the supercharge
yeah I didn't go for supercharge either, it saves like... 5 seconds but you have to watch your health afterwards
another strat that I took from him
as well as rocketing the spectres at the end
cold basin
Hey can i use chocolate doom for speedrunning? I know it has a demo feature but like it it allowed?
vapid cloud
Hey can i use chocolate doom for speedrunning? I know it has a demo feature but ...
Yep its allowed
cold basin
Awesome
vapid cloud
Although you should use dsda-doom instead of choco
cold basin
I couldnt get dsda to work
opal coral
Any source port is allowed as long as you're transparent about what port you used and provide a demo
I do not recommend gzdoom though
vapid cloud
For dsdarchive for non zdoom mods, only some ports are allowed
vapid cloud
Any particular place to upload demos?
cold basin
For speedrunning?
vapid cloud
Yep
opal coral
doom speed demos archive
stiff turret
I will attempt to become a speedrunner
pro tip, don't speedrun e1m1
thorn cape
good tip 🙂
formal canopy
why is the first level of BTSXEp II spawn shaped like a dick? i never noticed this before.. but now cant unsee it
formal canopy
ive no idea if it was done on purpose but you look at the stairs at the spawn, its shaped like a chode
maybe its a metaphor for the map set? lol (symbolic for the map set i mean)
south lark
formal canopy
love the element, but they hurt so good T_T ;p
formal canopy
wonder if it would be possible to make the pain elemental actuall spawn a more dangerous red lost soul and have the others as normal enemies in a wad... mhmm. so many ideas for when i get another pc and download doom builder and such.
potent holly
why can't you download doom builder on your current pc
formal canopy
friend of my brother by accident spilt pine-sol all over mine. Old wont start up sadly.
thorn cape
lol yeah map19-20 is nearly free
19 is literally free, 20 is mostly easy but can die on occasions
vapid cloud
Even without the void glide map19 seems easy
vapid cloud
Its actually one of my fav plutonia maps
thorn cape
vapid cloud
west glide you mean? Idk about that, never played it casually
Yeah west glide. Im not very good at these names
ill watch the demo later, im on my phone rn
stiff turret
<@!436474806976643084> <@!439722592249839617> died in map18 of plep2ns
rip :(
golden stream
golden stream
stiff turret
https://youtu.be/fw1j4-2ezG8
nice
golden stream
thanks. it's not great but it improved my pb by over 2s so im happy w it
stiff turret
I've tried it before, it's actually not too bad but the most troublesome part is the ending and the mastermind
Sometimes she straight up targets me instead and I just die, and the ending I just fuck up because archie placement was unlucky
golden stream
yeah those parts are where most of my runs die. if i lose too much health i usually just reset, surprised i didnt get zapped at the end there
think you just have to hope that the chaingunners infight well, but not too well or they dont shoot the mastermind and then the run’s pretty much over
stiff turret
You might've gotten lucky with a baron hitting the archvile causing it to immediately switch targets
Looking at your run, it may have been
There was no cover and the archvile was about to zap you, but it didn't
It was pretty nice archie placement to say
golden stream
i thought archies just target the first thing that attacks them
or do they attack whoever last attacked them, or is it just random?
stiff turret
i thought archies just target the first thing that attacks them
Yeah they target the last thing that attacks them
Looking at your run, some barons may have hurled a few fireballs that you dodged which may have hit the archvile
According to decino, they have no targeting threshold
golden stream
ohh ok. didn’t really realise how lucky i got there lol. the movement in my run wasn’t the greatest, if i can be bothered i might try for a 31
stiff turret
So whatever attacks them, they immmediately switch to
golden stream
mk. are there any other good plutonia maps to nm100s?
since im on unity port, im way too used to itytd, trying to improve on other difficulties
stiff turret
Hm not sure, not much into the nightmare scene although I may do more because they're interesting(I've only done 3 so far)
aconfusedhuman probably has some pretty good ones
golden stream
neurosphere is one i tried but it’s just annoying despite it being such a short IL, haven’t even gotten close to a completion
hard to know what’s actually happening because of the screen going red
map 19 looks so free, but glides on unity are just pain. and im on controller, so it’s like 5x worse
stiff turret
Yeah map19 according to confused is basically free due to the glide
Wait isn't VMM not available on unity?
Or did they update it to have VMM?
golden stream
it’s off by default apparently on unity but you can turn it on if you’re on pc. but if you’re on controller, then you can’t activate it, and you can’t guarantee that you’re actually moving fully forward lol
only glide i’ve done is on realm
stiff turret
Oh rip
winged ledge
hi
stiff turret
If you want to advertise, don't do it in every channel...
Makes you look desperate and annoying as fuck
Just 1 place is fine
golden stream
no
thorn cape
Bruh LMAO
golden stream
finally got sub 21 https://youtu.be/z9FDwT-m3w0
opal coral
Ahem Friendly reminder that this room is for Classic Doom and not any other games
golden stream
Doom 1 is the best 😋
thorn cape
vapid cloud
https://youtu.be/0ETr4nCK5JQ
I am more than amazed with that run
thorn cape
:^)
Probably won't be dooming for some time now, though.. my elder brother spilt coffee on my mouse and now it's not working :/
vapid cloud
Oh damn
stiff turret
OOF
thorn cape
well anyways @vapid cloud @stiff turret you both should play practice hub
practice movement, platforming, tricks, etc
lots of stuff 😄
I went through it when it came out, it's good material :^)
stiff turret
yeah I downloaded it
still not sure how to do south glides so I'm trying that
the archie jumps weren't so bad except for the parts where I overshot or undershot the platforms
the advanced archvile jumps though I have no idea how to do
the advanced SR50 training room is gonna be really helpful with my movement
thorn cape
south glides are like west glides, but they require a higher speed
you need faster VMM for a south glide after you get stuck
stiff turret
ah I see
thorn cape
oh and I didn't play the AVJ room for long so idk how the advanced one is, can't help you with that for now
south lark
Uvspeed is just playing on ultra violence?
ionic quarry
Hi guys. After 161 attempts, I have completed a No Damage speedrun for Ultimate Doom's 3rd episode, Inferno. There's live and added-later commentary as I set a UV Speed + Reality World Record. https://youtu.be/WMCy4BJ3Da4
stiff turret
Nice :)
mint crane
I speed run doom 1 on xbox 360
golden stream
cool
glossy urchin
Hi guys. After 161 attempts, I have completed a No Damage speedrun for Ultimate ...
noice
thorn cape
@stiff turret @vapid cloud new mouse came in boys
looks like I can finally finish plep2 and get to plall NM-speed 😅
I guess I've been playing italo-doom in the meantime.. pretty fun, done a couple casual max demos with a bad office mouse :p
thorn cape
category?
stiff turret
Woo nice
Italo-doom? Damn
I would try it for the experience but it's way out of my skill level
thorn cape
Idk how you'd find it, not seen you casually play anything :p
But I guess there's only UV, so you can't turn down the difficulty if you wanted to
Played 01-04, maxed 02 and 03, going to max 04 and then 01 afterwards
then continue forward I guess
stiff turret
Idk how you'd find it, not seen you casually play anything :p
But I guess there'...
still trying plut map32 with no saves lol, although I'm getting pretty close
my skill level outside speedrunning is quite low now that I imagine it
hardest things I've ever faced was actually Scythe's ep3 which is probably really easy compared to everything else :p
vapid cloud
category?
Uv speed
The hardest wad Ive played casually was probably Alien Vendetta
But I play it back when I used gzdoom and was not any good at the game
stiff turret
Also going back to sc map26
Since it was the first slaughtermap i ever experienced
Played it on hmp first, but now im gonna try beating it on uv
Actually, i should revisit scythe in general
Pistol start it on uv
thorn cape
scythe ep3 is good yeah
did plep2ns for a tiny bit after a week (mouse ofc lol), my consistency has held up 👀
Pretty confident with the maps now :)
thorn cape
😄
stiff turret
Ooh, can't wait for the demo
After seeing PJ's run on reality ep3, it seems interesting so I tried it
It's really hard
Limbo seems especially annoying
vapid cloud
I am scared of people who do reality runs
mental carbon
stiff turret
Nice :D
zinc grove
Damn that’s some real skill right there
stiff turret
damn
lofty lichen
i beated doom 2 in 20 secondd
thorn cape
because for some reason everyone runs it 🙂
stiff turret
I got really, really bored
Decided to do it for shits and giggles, and I learned from last time from that 17 I got on e2m6 that I didn't record
So I recorded this one
Took me like 30 minutes
mental carbon
9 secs is a good time
thorn cape
@vapid cloud @stiff turret guess who found a new strat in pl32 which makes it a lot more consistent 🙃
it's not convenient that I didn't realize it until after ages, but not complaining :p
it's a really simple change, too
but it makes the hardest part of the level way better
thorn cape
Hmm.. experimented some more, and I find that although there's a few seconds that is quite risky, the rest becomes better and more in your control
Worth it IMO, you need to be more careful for a little while but the payoff is almost a guaranteed pass :)
stiff turret
Ooh nice
vapid cloud
Nice
thorn cape
Well, I just died in map18 again 😛
Clearly, the results of the new map32 strat came quickly 🙃
stiff turret
Rip
acoustic plinth
real nebula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr83k17Y9U8
Isn't speedrunning ZDoom not allowed on both speedrun.com and dsda?
Or is there a category for that
golden stream
afaik, i couldn’t find anywhere to submit zdoom runs
brutal doom also has a jump feature but it’s a completely different mod
since the engine is modified and the demo playback is bad. so ig zdoom is kinda outed since ports like prboom / dsda doom are a lot more popular
but again, i could be wrong.
real nebula
iirc the physics an other calculations are ever so slightly different even on GZDoom's "Doom Strict" compatibility level
So it makes sense why demos don't work and why they don't allow it anywhere
stiff turret
GZDoom doesn't have any backwards compatibility for demos, and can only play strictly GZDoom demos
There have been a few people who've speedran using GZDoom but they have everything set to vanilla, and even at that point I'm pretty sure their run gets placed into the "Other" category anyway
Due to the different physics and engine
golden stream
yeah that makes more sense. unity is the only port i've played so i probably shouldn't be giving info if idk what im talking about lol
potent holly
but i "speedrun" it anyways with zdoom
at least turn off jump
hoary stump
Bot wouldn’t let me post here before, but I think this is better suited to this channel: Rocketjump video is up. Let me know what you think!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfYoztSMdRE
thorn cape
nice vid :^)
pulsar valve
Idk
acoustic plinth
at least turn off jump
it should be
formal canopy
i will apply this rocket knowledge more in slam dance as i was very inconsistant but knowing how to break the mechanic from your video.. it will make it far easier.. thank you! subbed earned and granted. time to beat my garbage sub 2:20:000
and by break i just mean to get the consistent result i want
stiff turret
Ooh nice
hoary stump
I’m glad you found it helpful. It’s definitely a fun technique to master
formal canopy
ya seems my angle was just slightly off sometimes and thats why i didnt get the full speed boost. really helped clarify what was happening actually
thorn cape
Got sick of dying in map32 still so I came up with a new route change @vapid cloud @stiff turret
seems to be consistent
the monsters wake up late so they don't even have time to come around while I'm killing the cyber, and the cybers behind actually successfully keep them at bay because they are all packed at the back
Skip to 1:30
the key is to be fast
stiff turret
Ooh nice
vapid cloud
You make killing the cybers in close range look easy :P
Ive been playing around with Meowgi’s practice hub, and its a lot of fun
thorn cape
ya practice hub is a good wad :^)
golden stream
took me like 45 minutes to do
golden stream
Lol.
stiff turret
one angry thing I just had was that I had a pace for another 9(lol)
then the ending door literally killed it
golden stream
Yeah, multiple runs of mine died right after the zigzag section. Failed a lot of runs at the ending door as well, sometimes I just don’t press the switch
stiff turret
Yeah, multiple runs of mine died right after the zigzag section. Failed a lot of...
yeah you gotta hope the shotgunner and the imp cooperate and move together in the opposite direction
ionic quarry
Sunlust really needed some more No Damage speedrunning, so I have beaten GarrettChan's 7:38 to post a new World Record for UV Max + Reality on Map 02 'Down Through'. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/6A9Cwptu4FM
thorn cape
hmm.. map18 and map16 death in plep2 today :p
the new 32 route is good yeah
I've recorded my death count in each map since yesterday, and my consistency is quite good:
11: 4
12: 17
13: 2
14: 1
15: 1
31: 1
32: 1
16: 1
18: 1
i think that's about a bit over 1/4 runs pass map12, which is very nice
vapid cloud
Damn so many deaths in map12