doom-2016

[lyric ridge]

At least they didn't mess with Pinky
They kept the same design from 2016, which is the one I like the most

Eternal Barons are overdesigned

[carmine lava]

The green projeciles are a lot easier to be aware of

Oh totally, man. The edgy blades are kinda weaksauce. What's with that anyway? Dread Knights and Barons having the same attacks... Arch-Viles and Whiplashes too

[lyric ridge]

Barons in Eternal just feel like bigger and meaner Hell Knights
Which I guess in vice versa that's the point, but I digress

[carmine lava]

They have a bigger health pool in Eternal, but the 2016 Barons would actually try to zone you with their green blobs

[lyric ridge]

Dread Knights on paper was a cool idea, but in gameplay it's meh

[carmine lava]

Baby Barons

...who get cut in half by my destroyer blade

Wasn't the whole point of destroyer blade to be a nerfed siege mode? And yet here we are haha

I also miss summoners quite a bit in Eternal.

[flint dune]

Really? I find summoners quite useless in 2016, to be honest. A watered down Archvile mechanically.

They would rarely summon things outside of Imps.

And you can instantly stagger them with a lock-on.

[carmine lava]

I mean, yeah, they're weak as hell don't get me wrong

I just think the Archvile is an out of control summoner haha

just buff the mobility/health on the summoner maybe

[flint dune]

Their design was cool, I’ll give it that.

Hm, health definitely.

Honestly they just take too long to summon in a pair of demons.

[carmine lava]

mhm

I routinely just assassinate the Arch-Viles because if they get even one wave of spawns in it's a liability

then it's at the point where... well... ice bomb + lock-on, I don't even deal with their attacks

[flint dune]

I do wish Archviles were more dynamically placed in Eternal. Very few times were they. Once you learn where they spawn you can beeline to them. Ice Bomb is also a tad unbalanced when it comes to Super Heavies.

Agh anyways, that’s for Eternal talk, heh.

[carmine lava]

yeeeppp agree with you there

The summoners could like... exist in the enemy ecosystem without absolutely, positively needing to be killed immediately, and you would go toe-to-toe with them more regularly

Also I had a thought... what if the charged burst was a burst fire instead? As in, you could just constantly fire in three shot bursts

on the shotgun I mean

[elder meadow]

[sonic matrix]

There really is nothing better than chilling with some diet code red mountain dew and playing some doom 2016

change my mind

[lyric ridge]

Agreed

[sonic matrix]

Yesterday though I spilled my diet code red mountain dew on my 400$ keyboard

😦

i was pissed as hell

[keen minnow]

I might be sounding a bit...lazy, but in 2016s multiplayer, whats the easiest way to get Cyberdemonic and Robotic armor?

[abstract isle]

Play the game

literally that's it, you unlock everything by levelling

[keen minnow]

I meant like...do some unlock by challenges, or just leveling up in general?

[abstract isle]

Each armour/colour/light/pattern/emote has an unlock challenge you can check... but you also can just keep playing the game to unlock them

You can try the unlock challenges but I think cyberdemonic challenges only unlock after a certain level anyway

[keen minnow]

Alright, I wasn't sure if I made a mistake by unlocking some of the Cultist armor or not, so that helps clear some things up

[abstract isle]

You probably just completed some challenges, but unlocking stuff is easy, just play the game and complete objectives

I think in sector/domination/warpath, securing the objective is 100-150 points

gives easy xp

[keen minnow]

Oh geez

[abstract isle]

Then there's a rune for xp but magnet/vital is best imo

[keen minnow]

Magnet helps in tough situations

[abstract isle]

Magnet is the best, I used to mainly use vital but magnet is so useful, I only switch to stuff like demon tracker if I need to

[keen minnow]

Same

[wraith tangle]

is there a way to swap the explosive shot faster? feels slow.

[wraith tangle]

holding down the mod button helped

[sand tinsel]

If you were to rank the missions by how fun they are what would be ur list

[carmine lava]

1st level at the bottom hahaha

1st and 2nd levels are the hardest part of nightmare difficulty

[wraith tangle]

game changes entirely after siege mode removes every mid tier enemy instantly(caco, hell knight, rev)

[wraith tangle]

is triple shot any good or should I stick with the grenade launcher on the combat shotty? It seems...ok I guess but why would I spend 3 shots with the combat when I could shoot 2 with ssg

[silk acorn]

Explosive shot generally is better, especially with the mastery

[wraith tangle]

still rarely use it. mid tier dudes get a siege mode insta kill. lil dudes get a rocket. big boys get rocket ssg ssg siege and insta die

in what scenario would I use the explosive shot

[silk acorn]

Cluster bomb

[wraith tangle]

on what enemy would that be better than just a rocket

[silk acorn]

Cluster bomb is great against larger groups of enemies

And it travels faster

The explosive shot travels faster, yeah

[wraith tangle]

I'll try it some more

maybe the same idea rocket explosive gauss but this is for ranged combat

[chrome basin]

explosive shot is very useful in combos if you're not exploiting glitches to insta-fire the siege gauss

[wraith tangle]

a ranged rocket explosive shot gauss could be good

[chrome basin]

also obviously indispensable in the early game, and is a safer option if you're trying to kill something small close range

without glitching the siege gauss, it takes more than a gauss and rocket to kill most midlevel stuff

a fully upgraded explosive shot with cluster bombs is actually more damaging than a single rocket

you can one shot hell razers with em, for instance, whereas a rocket will only stagger a hell razer iirc, at least that's how it's been on my recent UN arcade playthrough

[proven cloud]

is there any way to check how many people are playing multiplayer in doom2016 cause it seems like 0

[chrome basin]

hmmm, when the rocket's remote detonation is fully upgraded, if you fire but don't activate the remote det, does a direct rocket hit deal 2x damage to the enemy, as if both explosions were accounted for? testing now, a direct rocket hit with fully upgraded remote det mod will kill a hell razer and deal extreme damage to a hell knight, whereas a direct hit with a single rocket from the lock-on mod will only stagger the razer and deal lower damage to hell knights and revenants (testing on un arcade kadinger sanctum). i don't have any save files without the rocket launcher fully upgraded to test

if i remote det the rocket before its second phase hits a hell razer, it'll stagger, just like a single shot with lock-on mod.

[honest star]

İ am too lazy to read this

[last ridge]

Does the Gauss Cannon have distance damage drop?

Sometime I can 1 hit kill a Cacodemon, sometimes I cant

[azure pawn]

I think it may have to do with where you’re shooting it

[last ridge]

I always try to shoot their eye

[chrome basin]

answering my own question from above, and i'm sure ppl prolly already knew this, but a direct hit with a rocket with remote det equipped (but not manually triggered) will deal double damage. a fully upgraded shotgun explosive shot will deal nearly as much damage (just under) as that direct hit remote det

[dapper hearth]

20 years after the doomslayer brutally slaughtered every demon ever, "mommy can we go visit hell???" "sure sweetie"

[rigid bridge]

is doomslayer now a mommy

after 20 years

[dapper hearth]

you know what i mean

[ruby stratus]

whats the best grenade

ive never used them tbh

[hollow temple]

Well anybody got some tips for cyberdemon lmao. Nightmare

Currently i am doing a gauss and rocket launcher combo with the occasional bfg shot and grenade

Frag i mean

Should i swap it to a siphon

[ruby stratus]

if u wanna cheese it do the bfg tactic where u open weapon wheel after u shoot the bfg and itll melt his health

[hollow temple]

Hmm ok

[ruby stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfubFFggl3A

works with guardians too

[hollow temple]

What messes me up is when he launches his missiles and his uhh forgot what its called attack

Where he slices

Tbh the guardians were quite easy for me in uv

The mastermind took me a bit to get the hang of

Does the cyberdemon get stunned by the plasma mod

[azure pawn]

Personally I would say the regular frag grenade

[hollow temple]

Ok well i overestimated the cyberdemon

That was actually quite easy and i didnt use the bfg thingy glitch

[coarse needle]

suoer shotgun

[elder meadow]

Vega pls

Too many caps good lord

Im excited

Doom 2016 on gamepass

I can finally replay it after selling it from ps4, dumbest desicion of my life

[coarse needle]

only for console which sucks ass

i use xbox game pass on pc primarily and i dont have an xbox so

i cant play it

[elder meadow]

Yikes

I feel sorry for you

But again you steam people have discounts every week

[elder meadow]

LESSGOOOOO

[crude lark]

I recently started playing doom 2016, (i played it after eternal) and it was so easy that i reached vega centeral processing in one go lol. Glory kills are kinda buggy tho, i glory killed a possessed soldier and i got no clipped to the ground and accidentally find a secret (cyber-mancubi model) i enjoyed the game it was amazing

[azure pawn]

Which difficulty were you on?

[abstract isle]

^ guessing UV

[lyric ridge]

Oh yeah, 2016 is definitely easier than Eternal
Still enjoy it more though lol

[abstract isle]

I found Eternal easier personally, cacodemons, weakpoints, flamebelch, frostgrenade and shields made combat a bit easier for me

2016 is just click click boom boom

[lyric ridge]

Yeah, all demons except Archvile and Maruader are exceptionally easy to manage and deal with
Tyrants have a bug healthpool but they move slow, so they aren't that hard to fight

[fiery yoke]

Tyrants are meathook pillars

[shut marsh]

"...Doom 3 is an amazing game, unlike the film. The film wasn't that bad though" -Zeherid

[shut marsh]

[exotic garnet]

Weird but somehow I like 2016 OST more than Eternal. In the games it's hard to tell which is better when you're frantically gaming, but 2016 is done better I think.

When listening to it out of battle, it feels more rage than Eternal's OST

[shut marsh]

I think 2016's is more memorable.

[exotic garnet]

I like 2016 partially because the music actually slows down and stops or goes very quiet.

[shut marsh]

Yeah. Eternal's feels a lot less dynamic.

[exotic garnet]

It's like the Slayer's mute rage more than Eternal constantly screaming

And really makes you appreciate the loud parts.

[exotic garnet]

Yeah, it's constantly going, but after awhile becomes very background

Whereas in 2016 I felt like I was constantly hearing music.

[lyric ridge]

2016s music is way better while in combat
I've noticed in 2016 that when you glory kill a demon, the music goes kinda quiet, and at the final blow on the demon the music kicks up again
Or I just glory kill at the right times, makes no difference to me

[shut marsh]

eternal's just feels like it goes and goes and goes

and then stops when fighting is over

[exotic garnet]

Mick Gordon mentioned it, it's a distorted sound that plays on glory kills

That mutes everything else

It really feels like you're zooming in on that moment

[lyric ridge]

Yeah, and sometimes the music doesn't even pump up when you go into combat

[lyric ridge]

Good

[shut marsh]

liked the ancient gods osts way more

[elder meadow]

Me when (the real) Doom 4 gets forgotten over time and becoming lost media and resources

[exotic garnet]

Hmm I still prefer base campaign OST over TAG

[shut marsh]

I would literally kill someone for the Doom 4 demo.

[lyric ridge]

Meathook is my favorite Eternal OST

[shut marsh]

This is a threat to anyone with the Doom 4 demo.

[elder meadow]

I would kindly ask for Hugo to release a Doom 4 build

[exotic garnet]

Raw guitars is very rage-y, but imo doesn't fit the Slayer, cos he's mute

He doesn't scream, he acts. And that's what I think the distorted industrial sounds bring out

[elder meadow]

And show that there is an active fanbase intrigued on a project that uncredited devs wanted to let the player experience in a reimagined hell on earth

Hell, I recently recovered some concept art from Doom 4

[shut marsh]

bethesda wont let john release classic doom beta shit. doom 4 being leaked is never happening

[elder meadow]

Well, the madlad did it himself, because it's his game. And two. its source code was released before he released the Doom 1 builds

[shut marsh]

even if doom 4 would have been inferior to 2016, i still want to play it. like really badly.

[elder meadow]

Doom 4 artistically looks more Doom tbh

ik the gameplay would have been slow, but there are things we haven't uncovered and documented

Like story and gameplay mechanics

[shut marsh]

yeah

we have a few minutes of gameplay and thats it. right?

[elder meadow]

I uncovered two gameplay footages last year

From "further" development

[shut marsh]

post them.

[elder meadow]

@shut marsh #videos

Let me invite you to my archive server

[azure pawn]

And a tutorial every 5 minutes

[urban shale]

Which boss had the best introduction?

[jolly geyser]

The Cyberdemon

Best boss opening of all time in my opinion

[azure pawn]

1. Cyberdemon
2. Mastermind
3. Hell Guards

all of them were great

[urban shale]

I like the way the Cyberdemon just yanks you into the arena

[snow dawn]

I don’t think he means classics

[azure pawn]

yeah

[snow dawn]

Wait…….

[urban shale]

Bruh

[snow dawn]

2016 and classic had the same bosses

[azure pawn]

except the hell guards

hell guards are new and 2016 exclusive

[fiery yoke]

The cyberdemon from 2016 really felt like he WANTED to fight you, like Davoth in TAG2.

[snow dawn]

They replaced the barons

[azure pawn]

but they came after the cyberdemon

[snow dawn]

But shut up

[azure pawn]

and you fought three of them

[urban shale]

Barons were so weak in 2016

[fiery yoke]

Barons came BEFORE any bosses

[azure pawn]

yeah

[fiery yoke]

Kadingir sanctum

[azure pawn]

I was referring to the hell guards

because Balgaar said that they replaced the Barons

[abstract isle]

I loved the Hell guard intro, because after you kill one, here's two more! The Doom Hunters in Eternal had a similar sitch but I think the hell guard fight was a bit better, they feel a lot more like bosses

I guess that's because Doom Hunters were minibosses who became common superheavies

I think barons in Doom 2016 were good but they just shouldn't be used alone, throw in some cacodemons or revenants or something to distract from the baron.

I think it's the final room of the level where you get the bfg does this really well

[sand tinsel]

Yep lol

[fiery yoke]

Oh my god I missed regular deathmatches so much

[fiery yoke]

Remember that fight on Vega core that gives you an invulnerability and a berserk at the same time?

[hollow temple]

The imp had the best intro

[coarse light]

Hola guys....

[honest star]

İ hate Hell Knight

[fleet seal]

Who should I address to get SnapMap into Stadia? (crazy wish, I know)

[coarse needle]

hey why isnt doom 2016 on xbox game pass

for pc

[sullen wagon]

goin through all the levels again 100%ing em. never thought id do that with this game

its hard because everything looks the damn same

i can run around the same spot ten times before realizing the classic level lever is there

[vast goblet]

Can you play as a demon in a snap map?

I really like playing as demons in multiplayer but it's really short and pretty hard to get my hands on

[north pine]

i have killed myself more times with the rpg then a demon

on nightmare and it's kind of sad

[chrome basin]

did you increase your FOV? i kept doing that until i increased it a bit

[brisk osprey]

why is it that every enemy and even the player really dark?

like near unseably dark

[elder meadow]

idk but the piss looking shaders from the Foundry level are pretty cool

[wraith tangle]

did you finish installing 100 % yet? mob textures are late to install and the xbox will let you play before it's fully done

[cobalt hazel]

Ok so Arcade mode is also a blast and now after experiencing everything doom 2016 had to offer, nothing really changed already though 2016 was an amazing game now it's just better for me, definitely now higher for me when compared to other doom games.

[north pine]

yes

max fov cause it makes me feel smoother

[azure pawn]

pretty sure there are some snapmap maps where you can play as a demon

[lavish iris]

I'm playing for the first time Anything you might recommend I do?

[vast goblet]

Do you have the names? The only ones I found were ones that were player v player, and I don't have friends sooo idk

[azure pawn]

I forgot what it was called

[flint dune]

You can make your own map and place down the Demon Rune. It acts just like the Multiplayer, but without a timer (unless you add one of course). There’s a ton of published maps designed around demon players too, though I can’t recall the map names. Sorry.

[vast goblet]

Can you actually hurt AI demons with the demon rune?

[flint dune]

Yep

[vast goblet]

Oh my god, I wish I can get the ripping animation that multiplayer has

But on imps instead lmao

For the baron of hell

[flint dune]

Well there’s no special animations in Snapmap unfortunately. They’ll just fall over or gib when you attack the AI as a demon.

[vast goblet]

Awww

Still, good enough for me lol

[rugged dawn]

alrigth I got a 90+ on all my finals

So i get to play doom 2016 tmrw

[sand lotus]

Working on 100%ing this one rn

[chrome basin]

anybody have any idea why Mission Select would disappear from my completed UV campaign file on game slot 1?

i still have the option on my completed Nightmare game slot 2 file (and slot 3 is my completed UN run, so that wouldn't have Mission Select to begin with)

[sand lotus]

The game does not want you to play it anymorr

[elder meadow]

who thought imps were a good idea

[wind owl]

2016 multiplayer anyone

I’m on xbox rn

[brisk osprey]

oh I should've thought of that, sorry most games are typically fully textured but only allowed the player to go to a certain point

again sorry

[wraith tangle]

I did the same thing when I first got it

[brisk osprey]

ah

[wraith tangle]

is using base fire combat shotty any good in combos? maybe rocket combat shotgun?

[willow adder]

this game was not made for eternal style quick swapping lmao

[obtuse stag]

I think it's because doom 2016 was originally released on steam,ps4,xbox and switch

They probably will put it there in the future i don't know

[coarse needle]

i hope so

[sand lotus]

I was wrong

[wraith tangle]

My favorite part about 2016 so far is that a glory kill is functionally identical to rocketing yourself

[sand lotus]

Just checked and I've one hundred percenteded the game

[smoky inlet]

Actually you can use quick swapping in 2016, it works pretty well but very OP

It feels smoother in 2016 probably because of the weapon wheel

[wraith tangle]

what do you mean "because of weapon whee"? Both games have a wheel(optional on pc)

[smoky inlet]

Because 2016's weapon wheel feels smoother than Eternals

[wraith tangle]

Play with your weapon wheel delay so it feels better

swaps are extremely viable yeah. A rocket ssg ssg gauss(or siege if you are willing to use the glitch) is just wild damage

[smoky inlet]

Exactly

[wraith tangle]

combat shotgun into pistol into combat shotgun big brain strat

[willow adder]

i mean it just tears through everything easily

and you have enough ammo to do it as much as you want

[smoky inlet]

Yea I agree but that's the beauty of 2016

[wraith tangle]

The ammo feels appropriate. with no precision bolt mod on the heavy cannon, you're not touching bullet ammo most of the time so are utilizing way more shells, rockets, cells/plasma so higher ammo makes sense and saws are harder to come by

[willow adder]

yea

[halcyon bear]

In all my hours I never had a single issue with ammo

[wraith tangle]

Ammo economy, in a perfect world, pushes you to play in the most fun way: mixing with different weapons yaknow

[mighty dome]

Anyone still play Doom 2016 multiplayer on ps4 ?

[wraith tangle]

which mod is better for chaingun?

[flint dune]

Mobile Turret by far

[halcyon bear]

I end up doing that anyways because it's fun. Economy has a balance. I always play like I'm low

But starving ammo is lame

[wraith tangle]

depends on the game.

[halcyon bear]

Well I only play doom

[primal kestrel]

Meh, me not have ps plus

[elder meadow]

anyone still play the multiplayer

[halcyon bear]

Everyone loves and hates doom 2016 multiplayer

[lyric ridge]

i just can't find games in 2016

[sullen wagon]

interact with 2 rune trial stones challenge in advanced research complex is glitched ;/

i totally got em both and its a common glitch

sadness

[halcyon bear]

Do you mean you didn't get a trophy?

[sullen wagon]

Idk about trophy i didnt finish the 100% for all levels yet

But essentially that particular challenge allways shows 1/2 on the main menu

And 2/2 on the map screen (even before i got both)

I found some other accounts of people having this glitch so its just something they never fixed

Im having a lot of fun with the 100% but its not something im gonna do all again in the hopes i dont get the glitch this time

[unique jacinth]

Yeah what do you play on? Ive never tried multiplayer so I'm fown

[glossy remnant]

How Samuel Hayden arrived to the uac? Doesnt SH was a person?

Really the person before is the consiousness was transfered into the cyborgbody??

[sand lotus]

Read the in game files in the game

[glossy remnant]

It say he born in Hayden family
But , how u explain smur mayker?

[flint dune]

Well, that’s a question more appropriate for #doom-eternal and #833975896196120626.

Since this game doesn’t really develop Samuel’s origins or past.

[glossy remnant]

Right

[cobalt hazel]

I mean I only saw 2 options to go to tie in Samur with Samuel's origins,

1. Samuel Hayden was a different person for most of his time but when he was about to die Samur then took over his identity and with that because the robot we love messing with
2. Samur just simply when he went to earth became a human somehow and was living his life out as Samuel for the most part. Could be a possibility maykers have really advanced tech.
   But nothing is confirmed these are just theories.

[glossy remnant]

Yees. Thats what I meant.

I think, at some point of transfering his consiousness Samur took control, maybe
:samuel_hayden:

[red adder]

2016 is better than eternal

[sand lotus]

In some ways yes

[red adder]

I find it much more interesting than doom eternal, because eternal is less focused on the strategy than 2016, where you have to count on every glory kill to stay alive

[sand lotus]

That's not true, I'm fact it's the opposite

[rigid bridge]

???

Eternal is way more cerebral than 2016

[glossy remnant]

Miss classic levels

[sand lotus]

You can play the entirety of doom 1 and 2 in eternal =/

[red adder]

What do you play on?

Because on the Nintendo e shop you can get all the classic dooms for £2 each

[abstract isle]

Everyone take a shot, someone compared 2016 to Eternal again

[red adder]

That sums it up well

[wraith tangle]

I will say though, as much as it's not really made to be competitive imo, it's still a good multiplayer

[abstract isle]

The multiplayer is great

It's a good casual experience more people can enjoy at once and offers such a range of gamemodes

Battlemode is just 2v1, ultra competitive

[exotic garnet]

Weird thought, but I think Eternal's platforming is a lot more forgiving than 2016

[rigid bridge]

Not a weird thought this is true

[abstract isle]

Raise your hand if the argent tower killed you

[wraith tangle]

eternal's platforming is easy yeah

2016 you get 2 jumps and then you fall down

[elder meadow]

Does anyone play Doom 2016 multiplayer anymore?

[errant oxide]

nah, sorry

[eager mist]

to quote the Slayer: "no"

[wraith tangle]

There are games every day on xbox wym

I'd prefer heat blast but idk how I'd kill pinkies without the freezy bomb

[fiery yoke]

Just go behind them lol

[wraith tangle]

how though. I don't have dash and my double jump is trash and no blood punch

and rem det doesn't always falter

[sullen wagon]

Just walk around them lol

Or do it the "intended" way bait them into their freight train attack and hit em once theyre faltered

But actually just walk around them lol

[fiery yoke]

Jump over them.
Sidestep.
Let them ram themselves into a wall.
Maul the front and wait for it to get staggered.

[sand lotus]

So recently over been playing the multiplayer and snap maps with a friend and I found out pinkies get absolutely destroyed by the sniper they added for multiplayer. That's a fun little thing

[sullen wagon]

you can literally just walk around them

eternal buffed em so you couldnt

[fiery yoke]

Eternal made them very slightly less stupid

[wraith tangle]

I am liking explosive shot to lead into combos because I can't swap into it fast but can swap from it fast

especially in multiplayer, explosive shot rocket combat shotgun is a godtier combo

[halcyon bear]

Pinkies have always been slightly stupid. So I get it

[azure pawn]

Aren’t Pinkies supposed to be stupid?

That’s like a main part of their character

Big dumb demonic animals that charge at whatever they see

[chrome basin]

i haven't touched this feature yet, but is it possible to make snapmap levels with the same size and complexity as the campaign levels?

[fiery yoke]

Yes, in some ways

[chrome basin]

nice

[flint dune]

It is, but the props take up network space, for some reason. To avoid this you need to limit your map settings to singleplayer.

[halcyon bear]

They're used as stupid walls that move in classic doom for the most part

Turbo pinkies on the other hand

[sullen wagon]

i love classic pinkies lol

that game where you kiss them to bait them into biting then back up, repeat

they are very stupid

you can totally prevent them from attacking while you're backed into a corner

[halcyon bear]

Berserk punch them after

[hidden meteor]

i loved how reckless pinkies were

[elder meadow]

say yes if u also have doom classic,2,64,3,2016,acient gods 1,2 and best of all Doom Eternal!

[rigid bridge]

What about final doom

[elder meadow]

oh sorry final doom too

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-marine-doom-guy-doom-eternal-doom-gif-21755318

[rigid bridge]

[cinder cave]

Who else thought that 2016 was too short?

[versed cipher]

I thought it had a fair length to it.

[fiery yoke]

2016 felt just right, if anything I thought eternal WAS short until TAG came along

[versed cipher]

11 hours to beat just the main story…for a campaign shooter, that’s not short at all.

[cinder cave]

I see your point. It just seemed short because I beat it in like 3 days

[sullen wagon]

each game is 13 levels

i guess eternal is 12 if you dont count the gladiator boss level

but it counts

[cinder cave]

Yes, but each level has a different difficulty.

[fiery yoke]

I think the difference is that you're much faster in eternal compared to 2016

[cinder cave]

Eternal is definitely a bit more intense

Less ammo, more mini bosses

Getting upgrades is easier, but a lot of enemies have a gimmick to them. Example, the marauder and gladiator

[rigid bridge]

That means you spent over 3 hours on it a day Jesus Christ bro chill

Although to be fair I got 100 hours in terraria 10 days after buying it

[cinder cave]

5 actually

Maybe more

Idk man, I've replayed 2016 and eternal a few times, but the first play-through took the least amount of time.

I make sure to leave some time for other things, like sports and anime

[rigid bridge]

“Like sports and anime”

[glossy remnant]

Speedrunners: 15 minutes per level actually

[halcyon bear]

💩

[glossy remnant]

[cinder cave]

Lol

[elder meadow]

hello

someone danish

[halcyon bear]

https://imgur.com/a/pV4WCte

[halcyon bear]

Here

[elder meadow]

are u danish

[rigid bridge]

Parece que si

[native star]

Is doom 2016 still good after playing doom eternal

[sullen wagon]

yea different kind of fun

and the art direction is gorgeous

im still blown away by how hell looks

[native star]

Ye i bought doom 2016 today since it was 50% off

[sullen wagon]

nice

[native star]

Imma finish tag 1 tho before playing 2016

Do people still play the multiplayer?

[fiery yoke]

Yes

[halcyon bear]

Don't come here after and complain about no meat hook or dash. I will shit myself

[sullen wagon]

doom 2016 is bad because it has no meathook or dash

[smoky inlet]

I enjoy it more than Eternal

[native star]

Ok

[smoky inlet]

So you'll definitely enjoy it

[native star]

I rlly like the tone of the game, cause its darker and feels more like hell

[smoky inlet]

That's one of the biggest reasons why I like it more

[hard plinth]

2016 is a more grounded in reality game

whereas eternal feels more arcady

[smoky inlet]

The art style is perfect

[native star]

Ye im gonna start playing 2016 after tag 1

[rugged dawn]

heres an update from when i told you i was gonna play doom 2016

so I opened up the loading screen and the music alone was epic so I decided to wait until school is over aka the 30th

[native star]

?

[simple nymph]

They're kind of cute but also horrifying bc, well, demons

[elder meadow]

Pinkies make me want to RIP AND TEAR my computer piece by piece, they're such a pain... even in the old games, they're so annoying. DOOM Eternal has made me hate them almost more than Lost Souls

[abstract isle]

Just, move out of the way?

bait them into a wall?

I remember there's a snapmap map that sets you up against a ton and rockets, stun, shotgun and clever movement can get you killing all of them

[exotic garnet]

they're much easier to kill in eternal with ice bomb and frag, but in 2016 theyre still able to be killed with a stun bomb from the plasma rifle and a point blank to the rear SSG

Lost Souls is the real kicker, they spawn virtually anywhere, so it's hard to see where they spawn. I died many times because I just didn't know where they spawned, I had to memorise spawning locations because the screams aren't directional, i.e. you can't tell where they are by sound.

pinkies aren't as easy as in eternal, what with dash and all, but they're still killable even by slow people. just use the right gear and right combos and you should be able to do it

[abstract isle]

Heck pinkies in eternal can be killed with BP, they're much harder to kill in 2016 in comparison

[exotic garnet]

yep. in eternal they also have a much longer waiting time. i rmb just standing in front of the gate for a couple of seconds in cultist base waiting for the pinky to charge

[elder meadow]

nope ok only little bit BUT DOOM ETERNAL ISSSS BEST

[abstract isle]

Welp we got another one, take a shot peeps

[wispy verge]

uhh.....
So I was fighting the cyberdemon, killed the first phase on my first try, proceed to the second, and my character just started looking down at random intervals for no reason

yeah uh I kinda died because of that one or two times

[wraith tangle]

I really think pinkies are the hardest enemy in the game

[elder meadow]

blood punch

[wispy verge]

sir this is doom 2016

[elder meadow]

oh wait

i'm dumb

yeah pinkies suck in D16

[wraith tangle]

punch a 2016 pinky to insta die

[wispy verge]

lmao

[smoky inlet]

Opinion

Some people enjoy 2016 more and that shouldn't be an issue

[wind maple]

The super shotgun in this game was too op lol

(Not that I have anything against it so don’t badger me for saying that.)

[wind maple]

What? Pinkies are easy to kill. Kind of. U just gotta keep one eye on em. Well I think they might just counter ur play style

I just go after who is strongest first and rip everything up after that one is dealt with

[compact hare]

I already have liver cancer from reading everytime someone compared the 2 games

[smoky inlet]

Who doesn't

[abstract isle]

And you too can get liver cancer from drinking too much alcohol by playing the shot game!

[compact hare]

New rule rip and tear the people who compare

Save yourself your liver

[abstract isle]

Unless the comparison is a new one

[flint dune]

I think some comparisons are alright. Like the story or aesthetic choices of the game, but mechanically, no. Both games are intentionally designed to stand on their own and play nearly completely different from one another, aside from minor similarities. It’s redundant to compare them from a gameloop perspective.

[abstract isle]

Yeah, typically the general consensus is the aesthetics and atmosphere of 2016 is better but the gameplay loop of eternal is more refined however both are still good games overall with neither above the other, but I've seen this brought up so many times it's now a drinking game

[smoky inlet]

Some people just completely shit on 2016

Saying it's nothing special

[lapis snow]

if you ask me i think doom 2016 is longer, or i just suck at it

[flint dune]

Yeah it’s not like Doom 2016 revitalized the franchise and was critically acclaimed, enjoyed by the majority and considered one of the best game “reboots” to date, sparking a sequel which is Doom Eternal

If you don’t like 2016, that’s fine, but I hate when people shit on it completely ignoring how important the game really is, or because it doesn’t play like Doom Eternal.

[native star]

I like doom 2016 but doom eternal is obviously way better

[jolly geyser]

that's subjective

[native star]

Its a popular opinion

[sullen wagon]

takes shot

[smoky inlet]

It's an opinion once again

Some people prefer 2016 over Eternal and I can understand why

[abstract isle]

Yup that's another shot

Which is better is subjective

[wispy verge]

Finished my first playthrough with custom weapon binds. wow

Was so much better honestly

Took some time to get used to them but my god it was worth it

[whole spire]

im still convinced I can actually get good at 2016 mp. anyone wanna do some death match or sumthin?

[fiery yoke]

Xbox or no?

[elder meadow]

Opinion

[elder meadow]

I prefer 2016 for a multitude of reasons, the atmosphere in my opinion was better for one. The whole grappling and climbing as part of a puzzle is quite disruptive to the flow and pacing of the game. The hard shift in difficulty cuts out rookie players getting into the series. As a whole, while still a good game it does not feel like 2016 did. And a personal opinion, turning the super shotgun into a grappling hook is just silly.

[rigid bridge]

Ey you gotta lean into the ludicrous plot of doom

[sullen wagon]

tbh 2016 has faster more intense gameplay, while eternal has a darker more horror based atmosphere

[native star]

.

[jolly geyser]

It's either he's being sarcastic or just misplaced the titles

[rigid bridge]

No he does this he’s being sarcastic

Making @native star tonight’s big loser

[sullen wagon]

yes just a joke

[native star]

What?

[rigid bridge]

You missed the obvious sarcasm
Making you tonight’s big loser

[native star]

Who said i didn’t know it was sarcasm?

[rigid bridge]

The period looked like you were dissapointed in him

[latent rose]

Revenants in 2016 are sexier than any other one

[rigid bridge]

You forgot the doom classic boners

[latent rose]

lmao

[whole spire]

nah bro doom 3 revenants. they got see thru clothes lmao

[halcyon bear]

Doom 3 rev https://imgur.com/a/UFJx8ve

[bronze night]

nice pfp

[wind crown]

I mean 2016 has way more flaws than eternal does tbh

The Super Shotgun’s Siege mod is absolutely broken, trivializing almost every combat encounter

The mods are either completely useless or way too powerful

The demon ai is worse

There is no fast travel, so you have to backtrack if you miss a single collectible and want to 100%

[jolly geyser]

Super Shotgun's siege mod?

[wind crown]

Yes

That’s what it is called I think

[jolly geyser]

You mean the Gauss Cannon

[wind crown]

That’s broken too but

You ever try out the siege mod?

You can kill a Baron in like 4 seconds with it

[jolly geyser]

Yeah the Gauss Cannon was pretty op

And the abundant ammo for the Super Shotgun

But I don't think that was a flaw since the game is still pretty difficult

[wind crown]

Yeah it was

[wind crown]

Well I consider it a flaw personally, that’s fine with you

[jolly geyser]

On Nightmare everything is dangerous since even Imps themselves deal very high damage and got probably that stupid aimbot

Nightmare is kinda unbalanced after all

[wind crown]

Imps are unironically the most threatening demon in all of 2016

That’s both hilarious and terrifying

[abstract isle]

I don't mind broken weapons, 2016 is a fun power trip

Gauss is still OP but you can just no use it for a more fun time

[jolly geyser]

Yeah, it won't help you much against the hordes of Imps anyway, it's just preferred for heavies

[abstract isle]

And the idea of just jumping into a horde of demons and killing them is still fun, I wouldn't say that nightmare is unbalanced, higher difficulties are meant to be difficult after all

[fringe hill]

Am I crazy for thinking that the blood and gore in the game is one of the best parts in the game?

[jolly geyser]

And the music

[fringe hill]

Yeah the music rocks

But am I crazy for thinking that the blood and gore is amazing in the game?

[jolly geyser]

I know it's subjective but I personally think that the music in Doom 2016 is way better than in Eternal. It makes my blood boil from the fury and anger.

[jolly geyser]

Nope, it's true that it is amazing

[fringe hill]

Idk about eternal since I never played it

My brother owns it but says that I must first beat doom 2016 cuz doom eternal is the sequel and other story stuff

[jolly geyser]

One of the main menu's theme instruments is a goddamn chainsaw

[fringe hill]

Yep

And the level beat music is so intense and I love it

[jolly geyser]

It is intense as heck. Not to mention the ambient music as well, it is unique and gives you that amazing atmospheric vibe of Doom 2016

[fringe hill]

Yeah

There is no such track in the ost that isnt intense

[jolly geyser]

Harbinger is also amazing because it's a Mick Gordonified version of Doom 3's main theme

[fringe hill]

And iirc theres a remixed version of the classic E1M1 theme in doom 2016 and I love it

[jolly geyser]

At Doom's Gate

Pretty much

One of the best video game openings ever

[fringe hill]

I cant wait to best 2016 so I can move on to eternal

[jolly geyser]

In Eternal he was just a crippled robot

Yeah

[fringe hill]

Im guessing that too

There is no doom game that fails to impress

Yeah

Im rn in the “kill olivia pierce” mission in the game

[jolly geyser]

Kinda Doom 64 for me

Couldn't continue it from boredom, but that's just me

[fringe hill]

Well I havent tried that so yeah

[rigid bridge]

I’ve heard it’s one of the best so you should still try it

I’ll be playing it right after plutonia

[fringe hill]

My top 3 doom games (for now) are:

1. Doom 2016
2. Doom 2
3. Doom 1

My only problem with doom 2016 is that its hard to play the game if you dont have sharp eyes

I have been stuck in levels but to finally find an area that seems to either blend in with the level or for something that looks like scenery to actually be a way to progress through the game

[jolly geyser]

For me:

1. Doom 2016
2. Doom 2 & Doom 3 (Tied)
3. Doom 1
   (Doom 64 is out of the list because I didn't like it at all)

I haven't tried Eternal yet as well but seen the entire campaign + the DLCs, doesn't count though

[fringe hill]

My tip: if you find a ledge with green lights, for the love of god, climb it, no matter what

Its your friend, its the answers to life, its your therapist, its your priest, its everything you need

All Im missing is just doom 64, doom 3 and doom eternal

[rigid bridge]

You should play doom 1 and 2
Those are pretty good

So do it

[jolly geyser]

Classic Doom isn't for everyone lol

Some people may not like it but really love the new Doom games

[fringe hill]

Oh shit

I mean shoot, dangit

Wait am I allowed to cuss here?

[rigid bridge]

Yea you fuckin are goddamit

[fringe hill]

Oh

[rigid bridge]

If we couldn’t swear here id be throwing shitcakes at the mod

Can’t be calling anyone birch trees though

[versed cipher]

You’ll know what word not to say when Dyno sends you a message.

[fringe hill]

Okay

But oh shit hell’s open

[rigid bridge]

Like that

[fringe hill]

I have one question though

[rigid bridge]

Ball

Ball

Ball

[fringe hill]

Does hell in doom have a P.F. Changs?

[rigid bridge]

Ball ball ball ball

[jolly geyser]

PF changs?

[fringe hill]

Yeah does it?

[rigid bridge]

You get warned for it though

[versed cipher]

Trust me, I’ve gotten one for trying to bypass it one time.

So if I were you, I wouldn’t try it

[fringe hill]

Yeah, dont get in trouble in verified servers

Sine 5/10 times you can probably get your acc in trouble if you do some big bad stuff there

[versed cipher]

Verified servers tend to be very strict when it comes to rules and regulations.

[fringe hill]

Verified servers tend fo be very strict to not get their server in trouble on the spot

[versed cipher]

For good reasons as well, Discord is officially partnered with them, so if I had to guess, they’re pretty much watching their every move and one slip-up could possibly get the server shut down. But that’s just my assumption, I have no idea how the process works otherwise

[fringe hill]

Yeah, any wrong move can get them to hot water

I mean, you can say shit so not like its much of a problem

[versed cipher]

Me personally, I can tolerate language filters if it’s for actual slurs that can be used to offend a specific group of people.

[fringe hill]

Like the other f-word and the cursed N-word

[versed cipher]

It’s pretty annoying, yeah. I also wish they would turn off “all caps removal”, I don’t exactly see a point in leaving this on. I don’t see anyone spamming the chat with caps lock.

[fringe hill]

Yeah thats very annoying

[versed cipher]

It’s especially contradictory how those words are banned but fuck and shit isn’t?

[fringe hill]

Like when Im excited or angry and wanna express it in text, its like “naw fam get clapped”

I also dont really like how we cant post pictures

Like if I wanna post a screenshot of the game

[versed cipher]

Instead, they really should have added a leveling system, which gives you a certain role after a certain amount of texting that grants the permission to post images and videos in any channel.

But seeing how MEE6 stupidly made that feature a premium feature (imagine paying 100 bucks a month for a Discord bot that does nothing significant to even come close to being a bang for your buck), that’s impossible for that to happen.

I’m struggling to even remember the other things it promises to deliver.

Other than the leveling system.

[fringe hill]

Maybe a different bot can do that?

[versed cipher]

Not that I’m aware of, no.

[fringe hill]

@sleek herald (from #screenshots) mancubus (typed it here cuz of slowmode)

[sleek herald]

Ahh i thought sp

[fallen breach]

i proposed this already for this server, was rejected

[rigid bridge]

I did lol

[wispy verge]

So sad that D16 MP is kinda dead

its pretty fun even with just bots

[sullen wagon]

this game just randomly kills demons to move onto the next wave sometimes??

i was trying to do level challenges in the necropolis so i was keeping a manc and a caco alive for a couple minutes

and they just randomly exploded and the next wave spawned in

[compact hare]

Would’ve been useful to know that the game has a failsafe for when you’re stuck before it took me almost an hour to complete an arena in vega core and had to reload checkpoints not knowing i couldve waited for that damn summoner to die

[wispy verge]

The last arena? Yeah thats just pressing T and left click for me

[fiery yoke]

Vega core is BFG bait tbh

[chrome basin]

i just finished doing UN arcade, and yeah Vega Core was fierce without using the BFG (since you want to kill things individually in unique ways to drive up the score). i don't use the siege mod glitch either, since i'm not a fan of exploits, so it was tough to control all the big bads spawning so quickly

do people consider siege mod to be broken if we were to discount the instant-fire exploit? it's still powerful of course, but on UN standing still(ish) for that long is typically pretty dangerous. so being able to fire off the fully charged shot acts as a reward for taking out enough other threats to earn yourself a few safe moments, or conversely standing still(ish) is a risk you have to take

[lapis snow]

if i talk in vc with my friends i make around 2 orbits

well rotations

[fiery yoke]

I find The Meta setup to be cheap, plus I don't like exploits either.
I currently have an unupgraded siege for my current run and I plan to keep it that way

Sure infinite ammo mowing everything down is cool but it loses the satisfaction of absolutely nailing them with several different guns

[chrome basin]

the cheapest thing i find, aside from infinite ammo (not that i'd often run out with maxed out ammo anyway), is how often bfg ammo drops with the upgraded ammo rune. aside from worrying about challenges in the last 1/3 of the game, you can pretty much just bfg your way through every arena with a reasonable chance of being at max bfg ammo for the next one

[fiery yoke]

I play 2016 with a 'eternal on crack' playstyle.
No cheap shit (I have upgraded ammo but no bfg spam), use combos, unupgraded siege mode, chainsaw for ammo and not just for an ez kill, use all my gear etc.

Oh and I have upgraded inflight mobility so it's basically Eternal without a dash

[wispy verge]

I mean even Hugo said it last stream

Or at least the last arena

[fiery yoke]

It's the only mission in 2016 I dare say almost requires the BFG

[compact hare]

I couldn’t do the vega core level on my 3rd time without going from hurt me plenty to i’m too young to die and using up all my bfg

[fiery yoke]

My first playthrough of 2016 was on baby man mode and I never got killed by the demons

[compact hare]

2016 is just harder for me idk why

[fiery yoke]

Harder than Eternal?

[sullen wagon]

vega core has some good fights but it definitely doesnt require bfg

[compact hare]

I died 6 seconds into 2016’s UN.

I got telefragged.

[sullen wagon]

mm broccoli

[fiery yoke]

Shiiiit I got to res ops before I chuckled and realized UN was a joke

[compact hare]

I play on console yet eternal’s un is easier somehow, i feel like 2016 puts you into a state of pressure where one fuck up = death

[sullen wagon]

^

[fiery yoke]

^

That and 2016 is unbalanced asf

[sullen wagon]

i can actually envision myself doing eternals un with more practice

2016 no way lol

[compact hare]

Eternal put the baby thing where if you fall you respawn, 2016 just outright killed you

[sullen wagon]

it was a good change

having to wait for the checkpoint to reload just because i slightly missed a jump no thank you

[fiery yoke]

I have done everything in Eternal and I mean everything, 2016 too, but the difference is I can't beat '16s UN

[silk acorn]

2016 is still good game :>

[sullen wagon]

2016 is amazing

[fiery yoke]

My favorite game of all time

[silk acorn]

It gets annoying seeing petty comparisons

[sullen wagon]

yes

[fiery yoke]

It's pointless to compare it to anything else since it's so unique.

[silk acorn]

And yet they still do..

[compact hare]

2016 is more tormenting and it feels more satisfying due to it

[sullen wagon]

but to be fair one is the direct sequel to the other and in a lot of ways is a direct upgrade. its still worth comparing the two to see what improved, the design process

[compact hare]

Like, you literally get the dark souls treatment in the game

[fiery yoke]

Fucking hell I remember seeing IGN comparing 2016 and doom 1/2

[compact hare]

What the fuck

[sullen wagon]

but you get the same "eternal fast 2016 pretty art" take over and over

[fiery yoke]

(yes the gameplay was ass)

[compact hare]

Guessing the player used the normal rifle shots?

[fiery yoke]

It gets boring fast

[silk acorn]

Why would you compare a modern game..to a game made in the 90s

[compact hare]

Because even in eternal they use the rifle’s normal shots even though it’s fucking useless, they haven’t learned

[fiery yoke]

Pistol.
Only the pistol, in both games.

[compact hare]

That is worse than i have imagined

[fiery yoke]

No movement either

[sullen wagon]

i mean comparing things is fine. oi think what gets annoying is "x game did y thing therefore its better in every way and z game is trash"

on some level you're comparing any given game to every other game ever made or those in its genre to get a baseline

[compact hare]

Legit you’d thing the journalists would’ve stopped using normal heavy cannon by eternal but NOPE

Legit the heavy cannon normal shot feels like it does jack shit in both games

[sullen wagon]

the heavy cannon normal shot is just there to get fodder into stagger

which the plasma gun does better imho

so yeah i cant say it has a use

same for the combat shotgun normal fire

[compact hare]

I’d rather use micro missiles or precision bolt than normal heavy cannon fire

[sullen wagon]

and people complain they took the pistol out

i use micro missiles in 2016, pb in eternal

[fiery yoke]

^

[compact hare]

Bro taking the pistol out isn’t “complete disrespect to the franchise”

[sullen wagon]

micro missiles in eternal are awesome but pb just has too much combo potential

great source of early game damage.

[fiery yoke]

I swap mods in Eternal

[compact hare]

use micro missiles swap to sticky bombs then use precision bolt and rocket launcher

[sullen wagon]

actually i use mm up until around cultist base then switch to pb

[compact hare]

If i doom 2016-ed this
micro missiles
Lock on technique whre you shoot once and you shoot 3 whole rockets

[sullen wagon]

remote det feels so great in 2016

its basically my go to fodder control cuz i barely have to aim at imps with it

(im a terrible shot)

[compact hare]

use the lock on technique where you press shoot once and instantly let go and shoot 3 rockets within a second

[sullen wagon]

i see wasnt aware of that

[compact hare]

you lock on, hold the mod button and then shoot once, and boom, 3 rockets

[fiery yoke]

I switched to remote det in Eternal recently, but the combo potential of lock on in 2016 is kingly

[sullen wagon]

but when it comes to 2016 getting damage out isnt the problem. i can ssg gauss rocket ssg gauss rocket anything into oblivion without trouble. and the remote det for me is too fun to pass up

[compact hare]

Never used remote det in both games in a practical sense

[compact hare]

Btw, skip swap delays by shooting and pressing the hologram summon and instantly switching to a weapon right after pressing the button

Also, if you wanna see unused reloads: SSG, instantly hologram and immediately swap to another weapon.

[fiery yoke]

So thats how you do it

[compact hare]

Your timing needs to be godly but seems like i can do it perfectly all the time on console

Even have a video uploaded on it

[fiery yoke]

My personal combo I like to use:
SSG -> lock on burst -> norm rocket -> gauss -> micro missiles -> explosive shot

In any other tbh

[compact hare]

Make that quicker by using the hologram and instantly swapping to the weapon right after pressing the holo button

[fiery yoke]

I'll probably use that at some point

[compact hare]

So it’s like you press the hologram button and almost a millisecond after you swap to the weapon

Cut down on the delay and make it look almost instant

[fiery yoke]

I know that swap tech is fast enough to actually not have the weapon textures full render

[compact hare]

And lock ons, use the tech where you lock on right? You tap the shoot button only once and get 3 whole rockets flying, not lock on rockets anymore

Theres ways to absolutely destroy doom 2016’s combat flow

[halcyon bear]

Your guys most fun weapon to use though?

[abstract isle]

I reckon it’s gotta be the SSG or micro missiles

They make nice boomy noises

[jolly geyser]

All

[halcyon bear]

har with uranium coating devastator rounds. Ain't the most practical but its a blast

[jolly geyser]

Honestly, I find the Rocket Launcher very satisfying to be used with the Lock-on Burst mod

[sullen wagon]

micro missiles yes they just feel great

remote det too

and siege mode of course is a banger

[wispy verge]

tough question

I really dont know honestly

I only really use SSG, Chaingun, Guass cannon, normal shotgun and the rocket launcher

and BFG really late game

[fiery yoke]

Super shotgun best girl, multiplayer included

[wispy verge]

Mastered SSG ♥️

default is good too but damn

mastered SSG is on another level

[fringe hill]

(#screenshots) could you help?

Theres an objective there but I cant seem to open the door

[flint dune]

There’s a platforming section that leads to the skull switch you need to activate. Continue to your right from the door, then platform over to the other island, go up the stairs and jump to the switch.

Basically, when an enemy spawns in, you’re heading in the right direction.

[fringe hill]

Oh okay thanks

[full pelican]

Hiya I'm new. 😝 and I got into Doom through the soundtrack, started with this game

[flint dune]

Hah, nice. And welcome to the server.

[full pelican]

Thank you, my favorite part of Doom 2016 is the Cyberdemon, in fact I almost used my Bethesda account username when I signed up here!

[fringe hill]

Nice to see a new doom fan

[full pelican]

Yep, good to be here so aside from fave demon. Fave weapons: BFG (duh) plasma rifle, super shotgun, chaingun, and gauss cannon. Other demons I like: Baron of Hell, Cacodemon, Hell Razer, Pinky..... hmm what else

[fringe hill]

I like the mancubus

[wispy verge]

cyber mancubus more like go to hell

oh wait they already are in hell

shit

[fringe hill]

Huh? Cyber mancubus? Whats that?

[wispy verge]

Ill let you find out on your own

[fiery yoke]

Oh.
The cyber manc.
Fuck the cyber manc.

[wispy verge]

yes

[fringe hill]

Is that an enemy in the game?

[wispy verge]

perhaps

[fringe hill]

is it a ship?

Please say it isnt

[wispy verge]

no its a thicc boy with an oculus rift

[fringe hill]

Oh

So its a dlc enemy?

[wispy verge]

nah base game

[fringe hill]

Oh okay

[fiery yoke]

2016 doesn't have dlc

[wispy verge]

Didnt it have DLC like not too long after release?

that got included in patch 6.66 for everyone?

[fiery yoke]

Yes

Multiplayer dlc of course

[wispy verge]

Singleplyer DLC would have been fucking awesome, not gonna lie

guess MP wasnt dead back then

[halcyon bear]

Yeah bfg of course but as a doom fan it's just there

[full pelican]

lol I hate cyber mancubus,

[halcyon bear]

The look ? I think it's a great concept

[full pelican]

I don't mind the look, I meant fighting them

[halcyon bear]

Ah the reduction or removal of weaknesses from base mancubus is something

[full pelican]

Chainsawing them was waaaay more brutal in this game than eternal. Slicing my way through their bellies was soooo satisfying

[fiery yoke]

Eternal is fairly lacking in the 'special' glory kill animations aka berserk and chainsaw

[full pelican]

Yeah, it's still a great game though. I was disappointed that chainsawing a mancubus was just right in the heart and that's it. but Doom 2016 is really something.

[fiery yoke]

Eternal 100% improved the caco chainsaw though

[dawn vault]

I think berserk is pretty good in eternal

[full pelican]

Yeah beserk is not terrible there. I like ripping an imp in half

[dawn vault]

Chainsaw you mostly use on fodder so I guess they didn't focus as much

Some berserk kills are meh like carcass

[fiery yoke]

Eternal just has overall meh berserk

Like, no multiple animations?

[dawn vault]

The game is very much focused on speed and efficiency also berserk refills slightly on kills and i'm pretty sure 2016 you could extend powerups while eternal does nothing to them.

So in the end it's more of a rush to get as much done before it's gone while in 2016 i felt i had much more time

[wispy verge]

How many caco chainsaw animations are there in D16?

I think I only saw one

[azure pawn]

Yeah pretty sure there’s only one

[wispy verge]

but on the topic of glory kills

some time ago I got one on a baron I think

[full pelican]

I miss being able to chainsaw barons, that was epic

[wispy verge]

it was sticking it's horns through it's brain

never seen that

[azure pawn]

Yeah that’s the best Baron glory kill

In all the others you just slap them with the horn

[wispy verge]

You cant chainsaw them in Eternal? shame

[full pelican]

Nope you can't, just shows up as invalid target

[azure pawn]

Lame

[full pelican]

indeed

[jolly geyser]

Lame indeed

[wispy verge]

the cyberdemon version is pretty satisfying though

[azure pawn]

Yes

[full pelican]

also there's no middle ground you need either 1 fuel or 3, no neutral

[sullen wagon]

i like that

[wispy verge]

Havent played Eternal in more than a year I think

[full pelican]

I'm still going through it taking my time with TAG. But I started my first playthrough of Doom 2016 just before Christmas last year

[wispy verge]

yeah, same

got D16 gifted to me at christmas lmao

[halcyon bear]

Let's play a game. Tell me something you like about this game without saying the word eternal

[jolly geyser]

One of the many things, the gunplay.

[halcyon bear]

If I could choose one word for 2016 which makes me love it is raw

Grit

[jolly geyser]

Badass

The word "Badass" is a super shortened version of a whole essay stating how amazing this game is

[halcyon bear]

I don't know. Maybe I'm the only person on earth that can play a game ..a sequel ...a prequel and distinguish them and talk about their qualities individually.

[full pelican]

It was already in my library waiting to be played at that time. People rarely gift me games on Steam so I just treat myself when something's on sale

[jolly geyser]

Every Doom game is kinda different from the rest. Doom 2016 is good on its own. Doom 3 is good on its own. Classic Doom is good on its own

All of them play differently

[full pelican]

I love to listen to the 2016 OST when I go for a walk

[jolly geyser]

Doom 2016's OST is phenomenal

[halcyon bear]

Bomb

[jolly geyser]

I'm currently listening to Harbinger

[halcyon bear]

Still amazing to this day

[jolly geyser]

I love how Harbinger is just a Mick Gordonified version of Doom 3's main theme

[halcyon bear]

For anyone who doesn't know

https://youtu.be/SzI7DLR0DPU

[rigid bridge]

every doom game is kinda different from the rest
classic doom

[jolly geyser]

One of the best Doom tracks in history

[cinder cave]

Doom 3 does have a good theme

[jolly geyser]

Meant Doom 1 and 2, they're really similar so I call both of them "Classic Doom" most of time

[rigid bridge]

[full pelican]

Damnation is really good too. Makes me feel like the place around me while I walk turns into Kadingir Sanctum.. oh wait

[wispy verge]

I feel like most bangers are unappreciated

[fiery yoke]

2

Front and behind

[wispy verge]

oh

[fiery yoke]

Non fodder all have front and back chainsaw animations

For some reason fodder demons only have front animations, but this is easily compensated by having multiple animations

[full pelican]

Another track I love, Rust Dust & Guts. Nice beat to it

[wind crown]

Ok 2016 experts who wins?

The Baalgar Cyberdemon or 2 Hell Guards?

[full pelican]

Cyberdemon

[smoky inlet]

Cyberdemon

[azure pawn]

Cyberdemon

he's got like

rockets

and rockets

and that BIG LASER OF DEATH

oh yeah and that whole argent sword thing

[jolly geyser]

A better question is; Cyberdemon vs. Spider Mastermind

[smoky inlet]

Spider Mastermind obviously

Whoever says otherwise is wrong

[jolly geyser]

[fiery yoke]

The super shotgun has 3 reload animations:
Standard
Stylish (like standard but he takes an extra sec to put his hand underneath the barrel again. Triggers if you fire the weapon, do an action like a glory kill, then let it reload like normal rather than switching guns.)
Slow (puts both shells in individually. Triggers if you interrupt the reload animation without switching weapons. Example being firing the SSG, letting the reload start, then toss a grenade before it finishes.)

[versed cipher]

That's pretty fucking easy lol.

Gunplay, as Zeherid said, the enemies, super shotgun mastery, glory kills, and the overall gameplay.

[azure pawn]

The way hell looks, demon designs, the dark and gritty aesthetic, the gameplay, and the immersion

[sullen wagon]

i had no idea thats super cool

[abstract isle]

Harbinger is one of my all time favourites of the Doom soundtrack

Takes a backseat to BFG division and Rip and tear but there's so many good tracks on the OST

[full pelican]

I love how you can view models of demons, weapons and other characters when you find collectibles in the levels.

[fringe hill]

Im rn fighting the cyberdemon (phase 2)

Is the cyberdemon the final boss?

[jolly geyser]

No

[fringe hill]

Oh

[jolly geyser]

I'd tell you how many boss fights are after that one but I don't really wanna spoil it

[fringe hill]

Lemmi guess, many?

[jolly geyser]

||2|| (Spoiler)

[wispy verge]

there are actually 69

[silk acorn]

There's 3 ^^

[wispy verge]

second is my favourite, I think

[jolly geyser]

2 after the Cyberdemon

[wispy verge]

I cant really choose between them

[jolly geyser]

The first boss fight is my favorite, which is the Cyberdemon

Started badass and ended badass

[wispy verge]

I dont think any of them are too hard even on Nightmare

Im pretty trash too so

[wispy verge]

||I hate it when I just die because of one random attack though||

[sand lotus]

Cyber demon was the best boss from that game imo

[silk acorn]

Oh yeah

[jolly geyser]

yes

[wispy verge]

Should I try brawler mode some day?

[halcyon bear]

No

[jolly geyser]

Oof

[wispy verge]

why not

Im not doing UN

[primal mango]

It was fun NGL Finished it Too but I got...bored.... (downloaded eternal and gamed after)

[whole spire]

so i unlocked the phobos anomaly map on doom 2016 but i cant get past the first door after u the room with all the toxic barrels

it doesnt show the prompt to open the door and i pressed every button on my keyboard

nvm figured it out, u cant play the level while in the campaign

[halcyon bear]

" it's fun but I got bored "

[rigid bridge]

“(Downloaded eternal and gamed after)”

[quartz tundra]

BRUH

[wispy verge]

but why shouldnt I try brawler

[exotic garnet]

Imma go back to 2016 for another NM run. I did my first then immediately jumped to Eternal, but I'm missing the weighty feel of 2016 weapons

i wonder how many weeks i will take this time

[fiery yoke]

Thank God 2016 nightmare isn't as stupidly unbalanced as Wolfenstein 2

[wispy verge]

haha imps go brr

[cinder panther]

I don't really like that shotgun grenade launcher can damage you

F

[halcyon bear]

Right?!?! Nightmare is a damn dream and I love it. But mein leben wolf 2 is honestly trash. You get instant punished for trying to play fast

[fiery yoke]

You get punished for not moving.
You get punished for moving.
You get punished for going for a melee kill.
You get punished for not going for a melee kill.

Ngl if you don't melee commanders or throw a hatchet at them in a stealth section you're doing it wrong

[halcyon bear]

Exactly. It isn't fun at all which is weird because old blood and the new order got it right.

[fiery yoke]

I do OB and NO on death incarnate casually

[halcyon bear]

Yeah and it's a fucking blast. A difficulty is supposed to push the player to go sweat mode and play the best they can not force you to hide under a desk

[mortal vine]

I require some people to help me to get three multiplayer achievements. Please.

[cinder kindle]

2016 multiplayer was better than battle mode

[fiery yoke]

Honestly the multiplayer Achievements aren't even difficult, like just go kill stuff and remember what to do.

[mortal vine]

I know, but there is the annoying one, where you have to kill two players at the same time using the spectre.
Plus, I take the opportunity to get some exp for those two armors achievements.

[abstract isle]

The spectre one you need to get in a bull rush

Easiest way to do this is getting spectre in warpath and rushing the zone

rinse and repeat until you get it

[fiery yoke]

Honestly getting a double as a spectre isn't difficult

[elder meadow]

yea

i suppose

battle mode has some pros

[azure pawn]

You know what’d be cool? A mix of battle mode and 2016 mp

Team of demons vs team of humans

[pine bear]

Would be cool, sadly I don't think there will be any more updates for doom 2016

[buoyant sphinx]

I just wanna say I'm glad to see the 2016 PvP picking up again
From older and newer players.

[abstract isle]

3 demons vs 9 players would be awesome

gives the humans a bit of a fighting chance

[lime star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/504602013783293962/857612717669613568/DOOMx64vk_2021-06-24_15-21-25_Trim.mp4 yeah funny game

[pine bear]

Has happened to me sadly 😭

[remote swift]

Rust dust and guts is a vibe

[halcyon bear]

Man 2016 Mars UAC.. they nailed it

[azure pawn]

Yes

I can see something like it being built in our future

Unlike (insert eternal comparison involving UAC bases that only Olympic athletes can traverse)

[jovial pond]

When in doubt, Super Shotgun

[native star]

Just beat the first 3 missions of 2016 gotta say this game is fun

[lime star]

Yeah

[native star]

It feels slower than doom eternal but this makes me like it even more

[rigid bridge]

🍺

@halcyon bear

[halcyon bear]

[rigid bridge]

Down the hatch

[hollow temple]

Tbh doom 2016 had the best beggining and ending

[neat solar]

[jolly geyser]

Not sure about the ending

But I can't disagree about the beginning part

[hollow temple]

I find it better than doom eternal. Base game. And tag 2 ig

[jolly geyser]

The Ancient Gods Part Two's ending was underwhelming IMO

[hollow temple]

Spider mastermind was fun and that plot twist at the end

Samuels voice is just so amazing

And his theme. And the fact that the damn crucible turned into a sword

A really cool ending in my opinion

I always see memes of how people get annoyed and bored of samuel speaking but hell i would hear him speak for an hour straight

[jolly geyser]

Can't disagree with that easier

[neat solar]

"You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of Mars."

[hollow temple]

In doom eternal i liked hearing vega talk but it didnt give me the same feeling as when samuel spokr

And intern guy is cool and all

But didnt really like him

[jolly geyser]

VEGA's voice is more comforting than badass. Samuel is badass as hecc doe

[stuck brook]

I finished Doom 2016 yesterday and it was cool just felt strange since I played doom eternal first

[jolly geyser]

Yeah, both plays very differently from what I've seen

[hollow temple]

Vega's maykr voice is cool

[stuck brook]

Also did anyone else shoot Samuel when you first saw him?

[jolly geyser]

Haven't tried Eternal myself yet tbh, but from the videos I watched, it's totally different

[hollow temple]

I didnt like samuels maykr voice

[jolly geyser]

Never did that lmao

[hollow temple]

No

[stuck brook]

He says don’t waste you bullets

[jolly geyser]

Interesting

[hollow temple]

Lmao if you fully upgrade your ammo you get 60 SHOTGUN AMMO

max in eternal is 24 i think? Maybe 28

[jolly geyser]

Yeah, best part about the game is that you can keep spamming Gauss Cannon and SSG all the time with the abundant ammo

[neat solar]

[stuck brook]

Gauss Cannon best gun for bosses in my opinion

[neat solar]

Max in classic is 100 shells

[jolly geyser]

I spam Gauss Cannon + SSG on bosses

[hollow temple]

My favorite combo was a gauss cannon lock on rocket launcher and ssg

[jolly geyser]

Cyberdemon is the easiest boss but that makes sense since he's the very first one

[hollow temple]

I found the hell guards quite easy

[stuck brook]

Funny enough I died to him but not to the final boss

[hollow temple]

Easier than the cyberdemon in my opinion

[jolly geyser]

I like how the Cyberdemon fight felt very badass despite the easiness though

[jolly geyser]

I died twice to the Spider Mastermind

And no deaths to the Cyberdemon

[hollow temple]

God when he got up i was like "oh shit"

For some ever reason i struggled alot on his 2nd phase

His 1st phase is really easy

[jolly geyser]

What difficulty? Both were easy af

[hollow temple]

Ultra violence

My first time playing it was on ultra violence

[stuck brook]

I just play on hurt me plenty

[jolly geyser]

My first playthrough was on ITYTD, laugh and I'll feed you to my Pinky

[hollow temple]

What got me in the 2nd phase was when he made it rain rockets and his slash attack thing

[stuck brook]

Pinky’s look better in doom 2016 than eternal

[hollow temple]

They do

So do hell knights

The first phase of the cyberdemon is like fighting a mancubus

With more health

His 2nd phase was like fighting a cyber mancubus and a baron of hell

[jolly geyser]

Most demons in Doom 2016 look better than their Eternal counterparts

[hollow temple]

The revenant

[silk acorn]

The 2016 revenant is just, mwah

[hollow temple]

They look more realistic. Its most likely due to the atmosphere they made

[jolly geyser]

Unpopular opinion (I guess), Classic Revenant is the best Revenant

[hollow temple]

The eternal revenant is a clean polished squeaky clean revenant

[silk acorn]

I didn't like it tbh

[neat solar]

Best revenant

[jolly geyser]

Eternal's Revenant was kinda hilarious

[sweet mesa]

I just finished 2016 again a few days ago

[jolly geyser]

2016's Revenant looked more deadly

[hollow temple]

Like the 2016 has scars and blood and his eyes dont glow and it makes him looks more mad and intimidating

[neat solar]

It truly is

[hollow temple]

In fact the eternal revenant is even easiet to kill

If you take out its back rockets its litteralt useless

It can only meele u

[sweet mesa]

the 2016 revenant is easy too