doom-2016

[tame palm]

The doom eternal dlc haven't played it but I've seen it played and the boss fights go from 8 want to bang my head into the wall to trivially stupid. Unfortunately the last fight is a huge anticlimax

I think it's better to pretend eternal stops at icon of sin, also for the sake of the lore.

Doom the dark age is particular. I think it's a very well thought game with a terrific atmosphere in several sections, level designs and concepts

Some other things I can't even begin to understand why they were included

The dragon sections are awful no way around it. The mini bosses are interesting even if the concept tend to repeat itself a bit too much.

The boss fights, well the one in the atlas are bad, no way around it.

The other ones Vs the papa demon are satisfying and fun and in the end smashing that asshole face with a spiked ball is quite satisfying, the fight against the makyr guy maybe the weakest

All in all, my two cents, doom boss fights are all right. Is not a game built around boss fights as much as others like dark souls but there are some, they do their job and sometimes force you to break the pace of the game and think outside the box

[crystal orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/lotta-words-wow-thats-a-lot-of-words-not-reading-that-not-reading-wow-gif-26878516

[sly nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/imostergolfra-gif-25274972

[tame palm]

How many lines can the new generation read without losing their wits, asking for the future

When I was young we had these things called books

With lot of words

[potent mountain]

how old are you lol

[balmy oriole]

ouchie

[golden lantern]

@smoky bone how goes the nightmare run?

[smoky bone]

haven't done much yet

still need to figure out a way to fix my input delay issues

[quartz wave]

Is this game still worth playing?

[potent mountain]

absolutely

(im sure a server full of the fans of said game will tell you to not play the game theyre in a server for)

[lean talon]

I just played it and loved it. wish i played it before eternal though

[golden lantern]

sucks to suck

[tame palm]

I wanted to attach a image but isn't possible. Old enough to own the original 1993 doom floppy disks.

First game i played on pc. 486 66mhz

They even used to put paper manuals in the box instead of in game tutorials. Can you believe it?

[gritty trail]

Tbf they still did that in like 2012

[tame palm]

They used to pit then even in xbox games but they were already bare bone

The manual of gunship 2000 foe amiga for example was like a 120 page booklet with all the helicopters specs

[potent mountain]

the starcraft manuals were some of my favorite reading material as a kid

[tame palm]

Command and conquer manuals has all units description

You know I sill have the StarCraft box

Let me check if the manual is inside

[potent mountain]

yeah i still have my original CDs for them too

[tame palm]

Unfortunately not

There is the CD and a advertisment phamplet for a upcoming game called lord of the clans

I think it was never published

Command and conquer still habe the manual

Also doom has the manual but was the translated one not the original

[obsidian dirge]

@tame palm I think age shaming people in this server is not cool and you shouldn't just assume you're better because you were there when Doom was released. More people than you think also were there, and also it does not matter. It's great that it spans generations and that we're all here.

[solar pecan]

ew wtf??

[obsidian dirge]

Because people dont want to read walls of texts sometimes does not mean that they have a reading comprehension issue, or that they need to pick up a book. If you're older, then set a better example.

[tame palm]

where did I age shame people

[obsidian dirge]

#doom-2016 message

[tame palm]

that's friendly banter

they dish it up, they also take it

fair

[obsidian dirge]

Nah it was condescending. Just because someone "dishes it up", doesn't mean you need to be petty back. Be the grown up in the room then if you're going to spout about it.

[tame palm]

really?

k

[obsidian dirge]

Really.

Thank you

[craggy echo]

hey, i'm struggling with the multiplayer achievements. Can anyone help me?

[clear idol]

@craggy echo yeah I would but we would need 2 more people since it is telling me there would need to be 4 people to start a game

[craggy echo]

I'll try find someone else

[clear idol]

Add me on discord

[steel elm]

doom eternal

[neon narwhal]

no this is doom 2016

[steel elm]

doom 2016

[light basalt]

@craggy echo i've the same needs

I've just payed playstation plus for my first time in life to reach those achievements

[past schooner]

Doom the dark ages

[queen swan]

yo someone have DOOM 2016 online???

i need the multiplayer trophy for ps

[light basalt]

Same

[queen swan]

we need 1 more

[raven lantern]

Why is there no unmaymr in doom 2016

Unmaykr*

[lofty charm]

Why it should be there?

Devs went with classic weapon options +Assault and Gauss Rfiles -Fists.

[fiery vine]

hay

is anyone online

[vapid arch]

I would this weekend, you on Xbox?

[void plaza]

anykne know why the soundtrack for this game is unavailable on potify

[cold root]

anyone here available for multiplayer achievements? I'm hellbent on getting them now

[robust siren]

does anyone here know if super shotgun and heavy assault rifle are obtainable after you miss them in the level you’re supposed to get them?

because idk if im supposed to go back into the missions to get them

damn it i think i do need to for heavy ar

alright guess im going back

[craggy echo]

Steam, but already made it

[craggy echo]

They're

[robust siren]

thanks

[vapid arch]

Are you on Xbox?

[vapid arch]

😢

[fallow shale]

I’m still playing through my first playthrough of 2016 and my file got messed up somehow and ditched half of my progress so I gotta restart already 😭

[cold root]

PC

[azure willow]

[raven lantern]

Idk jus seemed cool plus is in doom eternal and doom 64

[gritty trail]

The one in Eternal and 64 are different weapons, Unmaykr and Unmaker 🤓

[void plaza]

no way it took me this long to realize that they called them "maykrs" because it sounds like makers and sentinels worship them as gods or makers

[lofty charm]

You can try my Overhaul Old/Rebalance Mod, if you into modding with Preset BFG 2nd Mod Rapid Sphere.
It has rapid shot sort of similar to Unmaykr and BFG has 60 shots there.

[cold root]

alright I'm going to try out the arcade mode

(mainly for achievements)

[royal skiff]

I KNOW! WTF!

[nova estuary]

I hope we get an explaination for it soon

[void plaza]

mick gordon said he didnt have anything to do with it and he doesnt know anything about it

the dark ages soundtrack is also unavailable apparently but i havent looked

[potent mountain]

TDA soundtrack still fine

[lean crag]

Hey! I’m interested in boosting the multiplayer achievements with you. I’ve sent you a friend request

[lean crag]

Hey I'm interested in boosting multiplayer achievement in doom 2016. STEAM ID: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199155574774/ . SEND REQUEST IF INTERESTED.

[raven lantern]

They both look the exact same tho?

😭 😭 😭

[peak stratus]

I wish that the hell baron would have parts if flesh blow off him when you shoot him instead of it just dying

[lofty charm]

Barons lose their flesh, when you shoot them. It just requires a lot of damage and hidden a bit by blood.
#d2016-modding message

[gritty trail]

Do they though?

[raven lantern]

Mb ill be specific the weapon design/build looks the exact same the colour dosent tho.

[cold root]

arcade mode is so fucking fun omg
so many different types of awards based on what method you use to kill demons, medals, lives, trophies from specific flying objects in the levels

time for the multiplayer achievements

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1486330069549846628/1489030252112908531/image.png?ex=69ceeefc&is=69cd9d7c&hm=03da73f63bd4b342e55ce772d3c1cd12cd7e0032bd1baf8d0ef5fd751242a84b&

anyone else thinks Doom 2016 actually looks BETTER than Eternal?
and I mean graphics-wise, not art-style wise

[sonic stratus]

nah

I like the more realistic/gritty art direction in 2016 but eternal is pretty clearly graphically superior

[fringe minnow]

now that you mentioned it

how can these guys achieve like 1 billion points?

[lofty charm]

Fog and lights look cooler for sure, but maybe they more present in closer range in Doom 2016.
Not sure about textures and especially backgrounds. I think Eternal is way better in terms of backgrounds and overall texture quality may be better on average. Terrain and surrondings look cool in 2016, but more simple and levels are more compact.
Enemies seem to look better, but they have simpler wounds.
Also Eternal has RT.
I guess, it's more about artstyle overall and preferences. I just rewatched some of the videos not to launch games and most of the stuff seems to be related to more cartoonish artstyle or even simplier approach to surfaces) in some aspects of Eternal. That's why Eternal may look worse in some aspects. But I'm no expert on graphics. 🤷‍♂️

[lofty charm]

Cheat engine probably. Some of SP games with such leaderboards have issues with it. But it's better to orientate on more relevant stats. But I don't know, which could be potential maximum for each level.

[fringe minnow]

i thought it was cheating, because in some levels there is a large gap between those people with billions of points and somewhat normal players

anyway, i need to study this mode and place my name on the leaderboard. i was invested on it a while ago, but seeing those billions of points made me quit for a bit

permadeath mode is fun too

[lofty charm]

By the way, it would be interesting to find actual comparassion of both games in more detailed way. 2016 does look better in some way, but I have a theory it's just visually designed better in compact/tighter areas (playing with light, shadows, reflections, fog), while Eternal goes bigger and better in grand aspect, but simpler in tighter one, while graphically superior.

[lofty charm]

This one seems showing it well at least for enemies, I think. Doom 2016 and Eternal are not far away from each other, but Eternal enemy design in some aspects is simpler, in some 1:1. Edited: but I think Eternal textures a bit better, while 2016 has better feeling of surface for enemies.
Dark Ages one feels like different league in terms of some details, like organic surfaces, cloth/hair, but design may be a bit different: less shiny compared to 2016 and there are less light sources for enemies compared to 2016 and Eternal. In some aspects like with Hell Knights it looks quite similar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASpWRwF7tx4

[haughty wigeon]

Guys how can i dodge the cyberdemons big laser thingy

That takes like 1-2 second to charge

(dont mind my pfp it's from a mockgovernment)

[lofty charm]

You go to certain direction (left/right) without changing it. When you see laser almost become active and you hear a beep - move to opposite direction (left/right). Just try not to move left/right chaotically when it's charging - for some reason it has higher chance to deal damage.

[haughty wigeon]

Ight thanks

[peak shale]

hi, can someone help me get the multiplayer achievements?

[turbid marten]

Does this game have an ultra nightmare reward?

I just it looked it up… nope… rip

[solar jolt]

Is it actually peak to play doom 2016?

[potent mountain]

im doing another run through of it right now and its still extremely fun

[solar jolt]

Ohh. I have never played it, lemme download today then😃

[potent mountain]

did you play any of the other doom games before?

[solar jolt]

Eternal yes

[solar jolt]

I tried to play dark ages, my rtx is 3050 and i dont think it fits dark ages

[potent mountain]

i have a 2080 super and i can still run TDA fine on low settings

but i also played eternal and TDA before 2016 and i still was able to enjoy it. it would have been better to play it before since the mechanics of both build on 2016 so youre going backwards a bit in that regard, but its still fun as long as you know that

[solar jolt]

Huhhhh, and your game ran fast?

[potent mountain]

im at usually 100fps

[solar jolt]

My game was slow asf

[potent mountain]

120fps on less cluttered areas and 90 on bigger areas

[loud mesa]

For sure

I also played doom 2016 from eternal

[solar jolt]

Okaay today i will download

[candid summit]

i finished it at least expecting a congrats screen but nope

i get the feeling it was there in the same way the nightmare difficulty was in classic doom where it’s just for the sake of it and isn’t really expected to be finished

which tbh has some merits of its own

[potent mountain]

the reward is personal achievement and bragging rights

[summer saffron]

Minimum spec requirements for dark ages is wild, I still have gtx but I’m upgrading it to rtx soon but my cpu won’t cut it

[turbid marten]

I guess only play ultra nightmare on UAC for an earnable achievement 😭

At least eternal/dark ages have earnable UNM skins

[sonic stratus]

You just do UN in 2016 for the love of the game

[lofty charm]

For the love of the games don't do UN in Doom games. 🙏 😅

[red flume]

I still haven't beaten 2016 on UN 😅
I've beaten Eternal and TAG2 UN but I'm only on like Argent Tower (I think) in 2016

[sonic stratus]

just mechanically speaking the game is really unforgiving on nightmare

[lofty charm]

I finished only 2016 on UN. (Eternal few times on Nightmare only). Decided to play Eternal today on Nightmare and I got so rusty and almost forgot everything already. Constantly forget to press dash and stuff.
Good luck with UN for 2016, if you plan to beat it.

[sonic stratus]

extremely limited ability to restack, everything does huge damage, and you have nowhere near the mobility that eternal offers you

if it weren't for the cheese strats available then the UN run would easily be the toughest in the whole trilogy

but the first half of 2016 on nightmare I think is more difficult than any other section of the modern games, hands down

[red flume]

restacking is probably the biggest issue, yeah.
A smaller one is the fact that falling out of bounds just kills you outright in 2016. It's not like a regular occurrence but it's always in the back of my head and makes me play scared sometimes.

[potent mountain]

idk, outside the first few missions and the falling insta death i've found 2016 nightmare way easier than eternal

like once you get SSG and instant siege the game is on rails i feel like

even moreso once you get siphon nades and rich get richer and the upgraded ammo rune

and even before you get those things being able to just kill everything from across the whole arena with busto remote det is really good at keeping you out of harms way

[sonic stratus]

yeah, hence the qualification about the cheese strats

dksms, rich get richer, ammo boost, etc

if you don't purposefully break the game then it remains really tough throughout

[potent mountain]

i mean those 2 are valid runes that are given to you in the game. why would those be cheeses?

the only thing i would see as cheese is instant siege but there's plenty of tech in eternal that makes the game "easier" if you can do it too

[sonic stratus]

because the game's been out for 10 years, and everyone knows they're cheesy lmao

and dksms is literally an instant instakill beam for virtually every enemy in the game--nothing in eternal even remotely compares, especially when you take into account how easy it is to pull off

the equivalent would be an instantly charged destroyer blade that still only uses 50 cells but instantly kills everything in the game but superheavies

[potent mountain]

i agree that instant siege is considered cheese. but i dont see how 2 runes working exactly as the devs intended and are not being altered in any way can be considered cheese

[sonic stratus]

a cheese strat just involves little to no effort/risk and a disproportionately high reward

and runes that require no extra effort and carry no risk associated with earning them that also make the game probably 10x easier than normal would certainly fall under that category

[potent mountain]

i feel like cheese has a connotation that you are doing something that breaks the game outside of the way that it was intended to work. if you're just using the tools that are given i don't get how you can call that cheese. it's just the most optimal and efficient way to win.

why wouldnt i use the best runes in the game just like in eternal?

[sonic stratus]

if you don't like the word "cheese", replace it with something you prefer
like "break the game"

[potent mountain]

but it doesnt break the game either because its working exactly as intended lol

[sonic stratus]

I don't think the devs intended for people to camp out in the corner and spam siege mode and bfg with rich get richer and ammo boost active, do you? because that's what breaking the game entails

personally I think they played nightmare as "intended", which is in typical run-and-gun fashion, which is why they found stuff like rich get richer to be fairly balanced

because if you actually move around the arena and engage with the combat, it's actually not so easy to keep up your stack

in fact, it's actually quite hard, since you're not that fast and enemies deal a bunch of damage

[potent mountain]

idk maybe i have a different definition of what cheese entails than the greater doom community

[polar thorn]

do yall know abt this one exploit with the explosive shot?

where if you melee and hold alt-fire and shoot, it won't put it on cd?

oh apparently it's called jimmy shoot??

[potent mountain]

yeah. useful for the early game

[lofty charm]

I would say cheese includes intended tools and mechaincs like OP stuff to minimize effort and to maximize output.
For example same Siege Mode/Turret + Rich Get Richer + Equipment Power + Siphon grenade are all legit tools, but combined they break game balance heavily minimizing effort and increasing output.
Another example is BFG+Weapon Wheel. Both are legit tools, but combined they melt even bosses without any effort.
Even Ammo Boost upgraded on its own is OP due to how high average chance for BFG drop and how BFG could clean whole arenas.

With that said, I think it shouldn't be any concern of player/user, since it's SP and everyone play the way they like and proper balance intended by Devs should be on Devs or at least modders.
But again, if you want to get proper challenge and better balance from Doom 2016 you can make non-upgraded run, since balance of non-upgraded tools is much better than for upgrades in 2016.

Edited: but then player would still need to deal with 3.0 damage from Imps, lol.

[grim knot]

6120 mood

[gritty trail]

That spells "doom 0216" 😭

Secret spin-off?

[grim knot]

yes

I’m totally a dev of doom

💯

[polar thorn]

I think upgradeless is a cool challenge to do when trying out harder difficulties

Its a way to learn how the weapons work and how effective they really are without any sorts of backbone to them

[lofty charm]

It's an amazing challenge for sure for me at least. Probably among hardest one. Maybe even pistol+equipment is easier.
I ran it like No Runes, No Suit/Argent Cells upgrades, No weapons mods or weapon mods, but without upgrades. It's like classic game, basically. Only player, weapons + double jump and equipment.
Gives very different perspevtive on game. But Vega last battle is pure nightmare with such challenge. 😅

[stray arrow]

Hello

[lusty sable]

you still up for doing them some day?

[stray arrow]

Doom

[frail steppe]

Hey

Someone is active anyday for doom 2016 multiplayer achievements?

[lusty sable]

yep, anytime anyday, just not tomorrow until like <t:1775503800:t>

[frail steppe]

Kk

[random sigil]

out of every gun in 2016 what is your favorite gun besides the super shotgun

I will check tommorow to see the answers

I look foward to this

[obsidian dirge]

Gauss duh

🙂

[random sigil]

🙂

I like you

Simple

[obsidian dirge]

Did you just start?

[random sigil]

Yea maybe...

[obsidian dirge]

Hell yeah. Keep me updated as you go

[random sigil]

alr bet

[obsidian dirge]

Plasma stun bomb add on mod. Don't forget to grab it

[random sigil]

Also it's in my opinion the best Doom game dont argue with me

[obsidian dirge]

It's my fave

No argument from me

[random sigil]

🫳

   🦶

Its beautiful

[obsidian dirge]

Best is subjective to each player, it's my preference'though for sure

[lusty sable]

gauss, but mostly because of its knockback which you can use to do some really cool stuff

[obsidian dirge]

DKSMS

[lusty sable]

holy shit thank you for showing me this, I just started my second playthrough of 2016 after like 2 years hehe
gonna abuse it as much as I can

[obsidian dirge]

Do you know how to do it? Also learn how to Gauss boost

Both will help, and both are massively fun

[crystal orbit]

what is a DKSMS

[lusty sable]

yea thats what I meant by 'knockback' (in my message about gauss) lol, its hella fun
with dksms I looked it up on wiki and I'll try it out later

[obsidian dirge]

Do Kill Summoners My Slayer

[sonic remnant]

anybody doing multiplayer achievements rn?

[solar jolt]

Omg

[lusty sable]

yea I could join

[sonic remnant]

u happen to know anybody else that would wanna join? i feel like it might be hard finding games just the two of us lmao

[lusty sable]

one guy also asked about multiplayer achievements but idk when is he up

I guess we could just gather more people from this chat over time

[sonic remnant]

if u still wanna try im down to but i dont wanna waste ur time

yeah that sounds good

[lusty sable]

nah I got time, dw

also I think you still get xp in private lobbies, which means you can farm with just 1 other person so we can do that if you want to

[sonic remnant]

oh shit im down for that

[lusty sable]

hell yeah

[torn maple]

What's the best way to get the multiplayer achievements?

[lofty charm]

Good question, but have no answer regarding guns, I guess.

I like:

• Fists (modded).

• Chainsaw go brrr (especially modded and yeah, I like melee in Doom games).

• Shotgun Explosive Shot (don't like Triple Burst).

• Plasma Rifle with both mods.

• Assault Rifle Micro Missiles.

• Rocket Launcher Lock On (Remot Detonation is also good, but more chances for self-damage).

• Super Shotgun - because this is my boom stick.

• Gauss Rifle with both mods (I know Siege one is extremly OP).

• Chaingun Turret (don't like normal one/Rotator).

• BFG is cool but very OP.

• I don't like quality or look of Pistol.

So I would say:

• Chainsaw in general
• Plasma Rifle in mid tier weapons.
• Any in high tier weapons, but for being effective and metal Gauss Siege and Chaingun Turrent and Rocket Launcher Lock On and Super Shotgun for feeling/looking/playing nice.
• BFG for sure.

[fallow crane]

Can someone list all the songs that play during combat encounters in 2016?

Making a playlist

[lofty charm]

Not sure, but maybe this can help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm932Sqwf5E

[cold root]

kinda want to replay Doom 2016 but with the arcade mode

[fringe minnow]

the fact that there are the in game speeches as transitions in the playlist means that mick or somebody else had the idea of making it's listening an unique experience

[lusty sable]

you can get most of them with doom legacy for doom 2016, and in an actual match get a golden rating and detect 20 people which means getting together like 4 people, or getting lucky and stumbling upon an alive lobby
you may also need to win a match with real people, tho im not sure

[stray arrow]

Yo guys

In level 9 how do I beat this fatass boss

[lusty sable]

his attacks that go up/down are easy to dodge, and when you're free to run around the arena just run perpendicularly to him in circles, it should dodge most of his attacks. leech nades are also helpful
and for damage just use rocket launcher and gauss

at least thats what I did for the most part and it was easy on ultra violence lol, although I am not an expert so I may be wrong

[potent mountain]

the bfg weapon wheel glitch

[potent mountain]

lol i always think about this whenever i play these games too

bro has super human strength but those damn levers

must be unused for centuries lol

[gritty trail]

He might not be expecting them to be so heavy, so he doesn't use all his force at once

But... that'd only really make sense the first two times

[red flume]

like Kratos being able to flip an entire landmass with his bare hands but struggling to move a couple crystals 20 feet

[lofty charm]

Maybe it's very old and rusty lever, don't know. Honestly, outside of destroying heads of enemies and argent batterires I don't remember him having huge strength in 2016.

[gritty trail]

Both are with his legs right

Maybe he only did leg days

[lofty charm]

True. 😄
I mean, he can destroy heads with his hands too, but it is still quite humble strength for fantasy/video games. Like at best: destroying head of Hell Knight, tearing out Pinky's weak tail, breaking armor for Mancubus for heart GK or tearing out horn of Baron and sticking it into its mouth.
Only Berserk grants severe strength.

[gritty trail]

I like the more grounded vibe of the original 5 games but I also dig the power fantasy thing going on in the new ones, as long as it doesn't get over the top

[lofty charm]

Same, especially regarding 5 games but honestly, Eternal and Dark Ages already feel over the top for me in some aspects. Especially, when Slayer shoots himself as projectile or when destroying fodder with just jumping nearby. 🤪

[gritty trail]

Last one is over the top yeah but it's also cool... I thought the projectile scene was over the top and stupid. But that's for another channel

[potent mountain]

those things are my favorite parts of the series

[loud mesa]

I’ve never really tried it

How good is the shotgun’s explosive shot after the first few levels?

I kind of disregarded the combat shotgun entirely

[lofty charm]

It's good. Not as a effective as a tool in Eternal, but still quite good and superior to Triple Burst and primary fire. SSG still way better, but on shorter distances.

[loud mesa]

I’ve played eternal for 700 hours and have never found a use for the full auto outside the dlc that isn’t just done better by something else

The sticky bomb can clear fodder quickly and at range

[potent mountain]

there are a few very small moments in the eternal speedrun meta that use full auto

but yeah otherwise poopoo

[lofty charm]

Yeah, Sticky Bombs/Explosive shot are much better than Full Auto/Triple Burst, in my opinion. But Full Auto is at least fun and sort of self-sufficient vs weaker enemies, but even then there is a chance that player would spend more ammo than it would get back.

[loud mesa]

I also never tried stun bomb on my casual playthrough

Not even seen if it’s bad or not just forgot about it

Literally 0 uses

[lofty charm]

I almost don't use Stun and Ice Bombs too.
But they both are very good.
I just like to play through GKs. But in Eternal it's better, since frozen enemies can drop health.

[obsidian dirge]

I use the stun bomb a LOT in 2016, especially on pinkies and in tough areas

[lofty charm]

It's really good, but for some reason didn't get into my playstyle for very long time. I just started to use it more often not long ago (+in my mod - Emp Grenades), but still quite rare, I guess. Mostly used Heat Blast tp deal fast AoE damage.

[candid summit]

stun bomb is the goat on UN

like genuinely makes it reasonably possible
on my normal runs i prefer heat blast because i like the action and stuff it provides but for survivability it’s not even close

the slower pace of doom 2016 with movement but still having really fast enemies (ex hell knight) means that having a consistent way to stun is needed
and it’s faster, bigger and more versatile than ice bomb

they’re too different to compare though, functionally
i like both a lot

[lofty charm]

They are functionally the same, but overall Stun Bomb is much better, since it's has way smaller cooldown and if mastered can also stun nearby enemies on kill. Ice Bomb is cool too with health drops and more damage, but cooldown is very long. But it's more relevant in Eternal, since enemies are less agressive and overall fast in 2016. I think even Hell Knights move a bit slower compared to Eternal one and only one attacks at a time.
But I agree on UN it's way more better and safer and I used it too a bit, but mostly tried to keep distance as much as possible instead.

[sonic stratus]

the main reason why stun bombs are so OP in 2016 are because they're pretty much your only reactionary tool that will always work
like for example, if a pinky rounds a 90 degree corner and for some reason doesn't lose any speed, or if a baron/hell knight jumps up from a lower platform to hulk smash you, or if you climb up a ledge and a mancubus is about to do its ground AoE attack, in eternal you've got blood punch, heat blast, meathook, dash, energy shield, etc. as available options to evade or cancel that attack in a split second
in 2016 you have none of those things, with the exception of stun bomb, as it's the only weapon or ability you have that will always halt an enemy in its tracks regardless of anything else

well, except for instant siege mode lol

even barons will flinch from a siege mode shot because it's just an absurd amount of damage

[lofty charm]

I don't remember regarding nuances, but there are other ways to break attacks with falter/stagger. I just don't play through stagger/falter mechanics much, nor pay a lot attention to them, so can't say for sure, what would be good alternative (like maybe grenades/Rocket Launcher?). Also Heat Blast is in 2016. As far as I remember falter/stagger in 2016 applies only on certain damage per shot or per health, rather than being binded to certain attack (but I remember there are exceptions in code, when certain things should apply falter to certain enemies). Sure, it doesn't pin enemy in place like Stun Bomb making it non-hostile for a while, but still there are ways to break attacks. On top of that we have Hologram, which can simply distract from player.
And as I said, compared to Eternal you don't need so many tools, since enemies are less aggressive, fast and there are less of them on average (+mostly fodder, apart from last levels), even though damage is higher from them and there are less chances to restrore health/armor/ammo resources.
But yeah, I do fully agree that in it's niche Stun Bomb is unique and best tool in 2016. Now, I also think how it would work with Hologram (to lure and distract)+Stun bomb (to pin and make non-dangerous for a while).

[fair thistle]

Can someone grind multiplayer with me ive been trying to get in a lobby for so long

[grand adder]

What system are you on @fair thistle? I’m trying to do the same

[fair thistle]

PC

Steam

[maiden lagoon]

Hello DOOM 2016 community. I was hoping someone might be able to help me actualy get this running on my laptop. I have tried all of the troubleshooting on the Bethesda website (Uninstalled and reinstalled Nvidia driver, Verified file integrity in Steam, set primary graphics to my 5080, I'm on DirectX12, and have DOOM as an exception in Windows Firewall Defender. The game still won't launch and gives me this error log:

Configured log listener print-redirect tags
Added structured log listener print-redirect
Added structured log listener mp-cloud-gobbler
2026-04-08T20:35:43.469-07:00 LOG: Process started
Winsock Initialized
------ Initializing File System ------
Current search path:
- C:/Users/danny/Saved Games/id Software/DOOM/base/
- C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/DOOM/base/
------ File System initialized.
------ Command Line ------
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DOOM\DOOMx64.exe" +renderAPl 1
2026-04-08T20:35:43.481-07:00 LOG: Command Line: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\DOOM\DOOMx64.exe" +renderAPl 1
------ CPU Information ------
1 CPU package, 16 physical cores, 32 logical cores
2495 MHz AMD CPU with MMX & SSE & SSE2 & SSE3 & SSSE3 & SSE41 & SSE42 & AVX & HTT
32768 kB 1st level cache, 1048576 kB 2nd level cache, 33554432 kB 3rd level cache
31888 MB System Memory
initializing resource container gameresources.resources
initializing resource container gameresources.patch
idLib::SetProduction( PROD_PRODUCTION )
------- Initializing renderSystem --------
PreliminaryRenderSetup
---registered window class
---registered fake window class
---registered context window class
X..WGL_EXT_swap_control not found
X..WGL_EXT_swap_control_tear not found
No address, error: 487
No address, error: 487
No address, error: 487
No address, error: 487
No address, error: 487
No address, error: 487
No address, error: 487
No address, error: 487
No address, error: 487

DOOMx64.exe @ 0x69b2758d( ) + bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
DOOMx64.exe @ 0x69a82f21( ) + bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
DOOMx64.exe @ 0x69a82d9d( ) + bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
DOOMx64.exe @ 0x6b0efa18( ) + bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
DOOMx64.exe @ 0x6b0efcc3( ) + bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
DOOMx64.exe @ 0x6b0f6deb( ) + bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
DOOMx64.exe @ 0x6ad6d06e( ) + bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
DOOMx64.exe @ 0x6ada4189( ) + bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
DOOMx64.exe @ 0x69b1c22b( ) + bytes () : ** UNKNOWN **( ** FUNC_PARAM_ERROR ** )
KERNEL32.DLL @ 0x9850e8d7( ) + bytes () : BaseThreadInitThunk( )
ntdll.dll @ 0x98c0c48c( ) + bytes () : RtlUserThreadStart( )
FATAL ERROR: wglChoosePixelFormatARB not available

None of this means anything to me, and I'd appreciate any help that anyone could give me!

[lofty charm]

Internet says that it uses AMD CPU integrated graphics instead of Nvidia GPU still.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/201810/discussions/0/807973052001347551/?ysclid=mnqy1lx2x3783915335
But just in case try to switch API from OpenGL to Vulkan or other way around.

[maiden lagoon]

I've opened a support ticket with Bethesda, so hopefully they can help me. I tried disabling my integrated graphics in Device manager, and it still wont launch! lol

[lofty charm]

Hopefully they can. 🙏
Did you try to change API?

[maiden lagoon]

I don't know what that means... lol

oh, I just found a guide to change the API, I'll give it a try and will report back!

Oh, I can't do that because the error comes up before the game fully launches, so I can't change any in game settings at all.

[lofty charm]

Try launch options for Steam with +r_renderAPI 1 (or 0).

[lofty charm]

Alternatively, try to go to:
C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\Saved Games\id Software\DOOM\base. There DOOMConfig addr_renderAPI "0" (or 1 again) and save.

[maiden lagoon]

Sucessful launch! Thank you good sir!

[normal tundra]

Есть русы?

[lofty charm]

Glad it helped! Wish you good game. 👍

[normal tundra]

Русские есть

[lofty charm]

Yep.
Да.

[normal tundra]

Тут их много или ты один?

[lofty charm]

Хватает, думаю. Это большой сервер.

[normal tundra]

Ты точно не англ просто пишешь как через переводчик

Напиши что то на сленге

[lofty charm]

Лол, нет. Но вообще рекомендую писать на английском т.к. сервер англоязычный и я не уверен, что это не против правил.
"Попячься" достаточно слэнгово?)) 😅

[normal tundra]

Скок тебе лет

@lofty charm скок тебе лет

[obsidian dirge]

Very well done, friend!

[obsidian dirge]

English only please

[lofty charm]

See - it's better in English.
Also, what do you want regadring Doom 2016?

[normal tundra]

I didn't tell you

Елдер скок те лет

[obsidian dirge]

I am telling YOU

[lofty charm]

Это англоязычный сервер - нужно писать на английском.

[lofty charm]

I'm 35.

[normal tundra]

А все я понял почему ты так пишешь

[exotic zephyr]

Its good to see someone close to my age on here 🤣

[maiden lagoon]

I'm 41 myself, and I'm not very techy! lol

[exotic zephyr]

I turn the big 40 this year. And same i dont know anything about tech just love playing doom

[maiden lagoon]

My kids made so much fun of me when I got my first pair of reading glasses a week before I turned 40! 🤣

[obsidian dirge]

I turn 39 on the 20th this month

[exotic zephyr]

Here's to slaying with a bad back and creaky knees. Rip and tear, until you pull a disc

[maiden lagoon]

All that means is that we were old enough to experience the OG DOOM on a 486! lol

[exotic zephyr]

I had it on pc and my 32x

Floppy disk

[torpid hearth]

Did you have a sc 55 or similar

[exotic zephyr]

Bro I have no idea what that even is 🤣

[torpid hearth]

Midi synthesizer

For pc

[exotic zephyr]

Nope definitely not back then

[torpid hearth]

So you were playin with the raw pc beeper huh

[exotic zephyr]

Whatever sounds came from the speakers in 1993

Or from the sega

On tv

[torpid hearth]

Oh

Still cool af

[exotic zephyr]

Heck ya dawg

[maiden lagoon]

My Dad was a controls and automation programmer, so his hardware was top tier, and I definitely remember thinking it sounded great. lol

I send him a screenshot of DOOM 2016 once I got it running today and he was blown away by how far it has come. When I told him that it was from 2016, and no where near current, he was floored.

[solar jolt]

Yoooo

[cold root]

is it just me, or does playing this game like Eternal actually make it harder in some aspects LOL

[obsidian dirge]

Well yeah, because the mechanics are entirely different and you can't even play it like Eternal 😕

[cold root]

by playing like Eternal, I meant things like being very mobile and quickswapping between the same few weapons etc

[lofty charm]

Quick swapping works in 2016 too quite well. As for extra mobility you can install one of the mods reated to speed, like Dash mod or Faster Movement mods.
There are also own movement/speed related tricks in 2016.
#doom-2016 message

[cold root]

in 2016 quickswapping makes you lose a lot of ammo like in Eternal, but it's not like you also have an always recharging chainsaw to compensate for that

[lofty charm]

As far as I'm aware, there is only 1 bugged case related to Gauss Rifle, where you spend x2 ammo per 1 shot compared to normal, but in other cases you spend as much ammo as in normal playthrough, at least, if your attacks are as precise.
Also overall balance of Doom 2016 is way better in terms of need to refill ammo with chainsaw (that's what Eternal was critisized for), since there are plenty of ammo on the levels and capacity of ammo you can carry is bigger. At 1/3 of a game you get Ammo Boost Rune to increase value of drops/pickups. On top of that around 2/3 part of a game you get Rich Get Richer rune, which makes issue with ammo almost non-existent as long as you keep your armor high.

[cold root]

I would like getting the multiplayer achievements too. maybe you could add me?

what is your timezone? for me it's 7:21 pm atm

I have the same username and pfp as discord, though I normally go by Serafettin

[sonic stratus]

No, it just makes you use your ammo more evenly, which means you’ll have to chainsaw less often

You don’t use less ammo by not quickswapping—you still have to output the same amount of damage regardless

[fair thistle]

When you sent that it was 10:21 am for me

[cold root]

4:25 am here rn

[polar thorn]

Quick question abt doom 2016 and its modding stuff,
Do older mods work with the current version or do i have to downpatch?

Actually i think this is the wrong channel mb

[obsidian dirge]

yeah you don't in 2016

[placid briar]

I'm a bit conflicted here
I can get three weapon mods right now

Either the heat blast or the stun bomb for the plasma rifle

Or get the remote detonation for the rocket launcher
I barely use the plasma rifle but I feel like I may need it's upgrade soon

[keen swallow]

Stun bomb

[hollow cloak]

does anyone still play the multiplayer, bc i've been having a bit trouble finding lobbys on steam

[boreal plinth]

I've been struggling to get matches for the past hour. And when i do get matches a cheater joins and 1 taps the enemy team

[balmy oriole]

sadly it is a 10yo game

so

i would imagine so

[boreal plinth]

yeah

it is what it is

[fringe minnow]

i found a full lobby the two times i tried to play

maybe if you get the right timing, or the right gamemode

[placid briar]

The hell am I supposed to do in the BFG room with the laser systems

I can't go anywhere and if I fall down I just die

[hollow cloak]

There should be ledges highlighted green to climb on top of in the room that shouldn’t be too hard to miss, climb those and look up when the laser grid is above you there should be red glowing hit points, destroy enough for the frame to collapse and you should be able to grab the bfg

Probably a lil late but just in case

[obsidian dirge]

Jump on the ledge, shoot all of the red lasers when they appear. After that's over, grab the BFG and that's it

[hollow cloak]

Whatever💔

[obsidian dirge]

should be easy now

[placid briar]

Ohhhh

[obsidian dirge]

Whatever what?

[placid briar]

Thanks so much you two!!!

[obsidian dirge]

No need to be rude out of nowhere

[hollow cloak]

Mb that was on me to be fair didnt mean to

[placid briar]

Yeah in hindsight I'm kinda stupid for not noticing

But thanks either way!!

[hollow cloak]

No problem ^^

[obsidian dirge]

You don't just type "whatever 💔" on accident and to be nice.

We were typing at the same time with the same advice and you just happened to send yours first. Don't take it personally.

[hollow cloak]

I know that was rude of me, srry

[placid briar]

Let's not start arguing I was just trying to ask for some advice and both of ya wanted to help it's okay

I'll feel bad for making ppl argue

[obsidian dirge]

It's fine; people argue with me regardless over anything I say lol

[keen swallow]

Nows the chance for someone to jokingly argue over that point

[obsidian dirge]

You don't need to mini mod either. We were clearing something up and it's fine now. Just a misunderstanding it seems

Anyway, hope you got the BFG!

[obsidian dirge]

ty

no worries

[placid briar]

Alright I'm gonna go get that bfg now

This was Mexican doomguy, signing out
Tacos

[hollow cloak]

No problem ^^

[warm summit]

Can someone help exp boost in Mp?

[modest niche]

ts is peak wey

[placid briar]

Yeah man let's kill demons wey

[modest niche]

lets follar the pinches demons compa

[placid briar]

Enough Spanish bro the mods are gonna get my ass
The fucking municipales weyyy

[modest niche]

true true i got carried a tad away

my baaad

the zetaaas

[placid briar]

[royal summit]

hello everyone im new to the game and i want to know if there are multiplayer sessions
cause i have been to play only a few matches and i found it really fun but right now it looks very dead

[warm summit]

People play after 5pm in USA eastern time, also play in North America region since it has the most active players

[royal summit]

ok but mumy question is
there are some groups , server ecc where sessions are organized or not?

thank you

[torn crypt]

i have the same problem

I would like to do all the achievements on Steam so I also need the multiplayer ones, if there are times where it is possible to play multiplayer let me know

[torn crypt]

is there someone who want play?

[torpid grotto]

Ya mean when it's most active?

[warm summit]

Yup

[torpid grotto]

I'll keep that in mind
see if i can manage to catch a match

[calm sparrow]

Anyone down to help me with 2016 doom multiplayer achievement

[torn crypt]

i want it too

[cold root]

anyone else misses this guy?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465235452148842518/1493622852468080680/Codex_unwilling_soldier.bimage.png?ex=69dfa42e&is=69de52ae&hm=d86ac4ebd6e7bfd68d71fa7f6454d941a3cda9515d0291efc4a20494336db2bd&

bro didn't return in both Eternal and TDA 😭

[lofty charm]

I miss, yeah. But they were sort of replaced by Mecha zombies in Eternal.

[autumn barn]

I do, Hell razers were one of my favorite demons in that game

[sonic stratus]

Their token setting were undertuned

In pretty much every instance when there are multiple of them on the screen there’s still only one beam you have to dodge
They should’ve leaned more into area denial and allowed more of them to attack simultaneously

[torpid hearth]

Nope

I forgot they even existed when I started Doom Eternal

[sonic stratus]

Animation wise I think they’re sick
Gameplay wise they suck ass

2016 definitely did GKs the worst tbf

[grave flint]

Better the Glory Kills than the glory holes.

[sonic stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/classic-cartoon-batman-villains-gif-13596835

[grave flint]

"It was a big rock."

[lofty charm]

The biggest issue with GKs in 2016 is that you can get killed right after animation ended.
And another one is that on Nightmare/UN they don't give much health.
And you can fall through the floor after GK in some bad areas.
And enemies reposition.
...
Otherwise they are very cool thing and I like that they are more punchy, brute force in 2016 compared to Eternal. where it relies more on blade. I think it's great that both have their fleur, though. Also Chainsaw and Berserk one are amazing in 2016.

[dull lake]

Is the multiplayer dead

[twin badger]

This game's multiplayer is really underrated to be honest

[twin badger]

sometimes you can find lobbies

and its quite fun! (obviously subjective tho)

[dull lake]

I played the practice and it was super fun

I couldn’t find a multiplayer lobby tho

[twin badger]

i think the team modes are the most active

[fringe minnow]

team modes are very active, mainly by the night time

[eternal kraken]

Any info on ps5 patch for flashing squares/rectangles on surfaces/objects while they load their higher resolution textures during playing snapmap maps caused by texture streaming? And silent id logo during the game boot up?

[dull lake]

Got it thanks

[cold root]

imagine if the Imps in the final version still looked like this lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465235452148842518/1493920154256539750/image.png?ex=69e0b910&is=69df6790&hm=3208c81e914c357fb1d3a0786f0619f550efb4bee068f6abdc4c1220039cb8bd&

[lost helm]

mini hell knight

[gritty trail]

I swear I sent something here

Did I just imagine that or something

[cold root]

I saw it and I thought you deleted it for some reason

[gritty trail]

I didn't delete anything intentionally, weird :p

[lament girder]

I like them better than the weird tangerine goblins in the final game.

Where's the internet task force that defends enemies having no eyes for this one?

I guess because it wasn't in the final game it never existed lol.

[cold root]

do you guys think the arcade mode is more fun than the base campaign?

[gritty trail]

Nah

[cold root]

I just like that type of gameplay. scores, lives, treasure, how you kill enemies gives you different rewards

[cold root]

what makes you think that way? imo arcade-type gameplay is super fun in fps games and I'm sad most of them don't use it

[gritty trail]

It is fun but I think the main campaign is way nicer. I like going at my own pace, arcade mode hurries me

[west cave]

Sup

Got this game today for like 3 pounds

On PlayStation store

[exotic zephyr]

You're gonna love it

And any questions just ask homie

[serene sail]

Me too

I just got it today

[atomic horizon]

2015 Imp design looks to be a remnant from the Doom 4 era

[wheat garnet]

?

[sterile blaze]

DM me for 2016 MP DLC Achievements

[latent jewel]

campaign also hurries gameplay wise, since is mostly arena style missions

[gritty trail]

The point of campaign is to survive, point of arcade mode is to get as many points as possible, so while yeah both rush you somewhat, arcade mode does it way more because it's a game mode built entirely around risk

I like it. I think it's dope. I just prefer getting to experience the levels more

[jolly terrace]

If there's anyone willing to help me get multiplayer achievements lmk, I'd be very thankful lol. The only ones I need are Threat Assessment and A Memorable Performance.

[tough wasp]

sure ı can help but ı dont know how to help

[cold root]

are you on steam? that's the version of the game I own?

want to get multiplayer achievements too

[tough wasp]

I have steam game doom 2016 too

I have question tho how do I activate berserk cheat code

[azure crater]

Who here wants to help me get multiplayer achievements on PlayStation? I only need two trophies I think

[tough wasp]

Is there cross play on doom 2016?

[azure crater]

I’m not sure, I don’t think so sadly but you can only hope

I’ll check in a sec brb

[tough wasp]

Well do you atleast know there is cheat codes?

I'm trying find code that gives me berserk

[azure crater]

I just checked and there isn’t cross play, and there isn’t cheat codes in 2016, that’s an eternal thing only sadly

[tough wasp]

I don't think the cheat code part is true tho

I'm trying find and I only found Infite ammo,Freeze enemies and God

[azure crater]

That might be a pc thing than cuz I’ve never seen that

[tough wasp]

Yea I'm on pc

I wrote "DevMode_Enable 1" then "God"

[obsidian dirge]

I wouldn't recommend dev mode in 2016 because it's going to corrupt your save file 99% of the time

@lofty charm

[lofty charm]

Yeah, Dev Mode enabled may work only with Dev Mode and can corrupt save file without it, if I remember right. Generally speaking, it's not recommended to use Dev Mode, especially now when ModLoader/LegacyMod don't need it. And "god" is the only command that works with it without LegacyMod.
For more cheats/commands/cvars I recommend to download LegacyMod. It doesn't require Dev Mode (at least for Steam version).

[wise crane]

I need help... i think. I'm not even sure what kind of help I would need-

I have the "Upgrade All Runes" achievement in Steam... but I don't have the "Earn All Runes" achievement.

I have no idea what I broke, how, or when.

[lofty charm]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/2146469724201722271/

[lofty charm]

Also:
#doom-2016 message

[azure crater]

Anyone got doom on PlayStation?

I need two online achievements for platinum

[wise crane]

ah. Alright

[shy latch]

Need multiplayer lvl5 achievement which modes are the most played?

[azure crater]

Umm idk, was wondering if I could add a few people on ps and playing in a private party so we don’t need many people

I already and my brother cuz we have doom at his place

So I think I need two more people

[shy latch]

U still need ppl?

[shy latch]

I swear this game has the dumbest players in history even Roblox ain't this down, whoever gets to know that I'm playing for the achievement just leaves

[somber blade]

Hi. Do you guys play doom 2016 multiplayer?
Im willing to be an achievement farm hen for anyone at this point because I haven't found people to play against.

[young mauve]

I just beat 2016 doom

[tough wasp]

Same twin

[tough wasp]

Clarify:Devmode saves corrupt file.

You see I was in Kadingir level when I fell I instantly froze game because I thought Death=Lose all guns. Like doom I+II. So I instantly Clicked Load checkpoint and out-nowhere I got kicked out game

When I rejoined game and clicked save file again it didn't let me enter! It saved it broken I had to freaking ask ai how to do it and it told me to use DevMode it worked I don't get why it won't work without DevMode but works with it

[gritty trail]

If you use dev mode on a previously uncorrupted file, it corrupts

[obsidian dirge]

I literally said this yesterday in response, so did Moloch. It will ruin your save file you're playing @tough wasp

#doom-2016 message

You'll have to start a new save and play again. That's just a thing with Doom 2016

[tough wasp]

Yea that's what I said

[obsidian dirge]

You're sounding confused about it which is why people keep answering. I don't know what you're getting at tbh.

If you're clarifying that it did corrupt it, we're saying we already know that happens/would happen.

The reason I tagged @lofty charm was because he can answer things at length when I'm at work and don't have time regarding 2016

[tough wasp]

Oh nvm after reading your messages over over again I understand It's just ur message didn't make sense

So I just clarifyed/made it more simple

[obsidian dirge]

I was able to recover a file that corrupted last year but it was a massive pain that I wouldn't do again

[lofty charm]

DevMode allows you to play with corrupted file, which was corrupted by using DevMode.
It won't allow to restore corrupted save file, which was corrupted by turning off PC during save or other issues with checkpoint system, for example. At least from what I know.
Basically there are few types of corruption:

• DevMode (requires DevMode)
• Not properly saved checkpoint (gone for good).
• Usage of heavy mod like my Overhaul (would always require this used mod).

So again - it's safer to use LegacyMod for same god cheat + it gives you access to way more cheats/command/cvars.

There may be some workarounds for corrupted save files, but from what I heard it's very problematic.

[obsidian dirge]

Even with a saved checkpoint it still gets corrupted. The way I was able to recover mine was to go into my game filed on my pc and swap things around and move from my c file. It was not worth doing again.

[gritty trail]

I remember using cheats to skip to the final fight of the game after beating it because I wanted to replay Mastermind without the 30 minute long level before it. My save vanished and I was so done with the game for like half a year as a result 😓

[lofty charm]

No, I mean there are few types of corruption.
That's interesting. 😱 I read long long ago about it, but never tried it myself. I thought it would require Cheat Engine or something.
Which one you were able to restore? DevMode/accidentally turned off/heavily modded?
But yeah, I heard it's very problematic.

[lofty charm]

Save files may disappear from game thinking you play UN. In this case there is no way to restore too, since it's just gone.

[obsidian dirge]

devmode

[somber blade]

Does anyone want to play Doom 2016 multiplayer with me?

[snow gorge]

trying to get some mp games going on switch if anyone is interested

[somber blade]

Me! But it's late! Crayons!

[snow gorge]

you're on switch?

[somber blade]

PC. Sadly.

[light dove]

Guys, if I use SAM for Doom 2016 multiplayer, can I be banned?

[lost helm]

from doom or steam lol

[lost helm]

is that steam achievement manager

[light dove]

yeah

[lost helm]

i dont think youd get banned

[light dove]

the servers are dead so I don't know what to do

[light dove]

ok thank you

[scenic cedar]

bot lobby achievement mod

[light dove]

how can i do it?

[scenic cedar]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3557111249

[peak stratus]

I’m almost finished doom 2016 and I want to play doom eternal when does it go on sale

[lone vessel]

I BOUGHT DOOM 2016

[lofty charm]

You won't get banned. Only games I know may ban you for using SAM are MP orientated (for example Dead By Deadlight and even there, if someone reports you).
Also as Mung said you can use practise mode with bots for almost all achievements apart from 2 (you'll need LegacyMod for it).
And there are still some people, who play it - you either meet them here or on Steam to cooperate or find them in specfic time.

[grizzled quiver]

Have fun enjoying peak

[misty axle]

Nice i almost done with doom 2016, last level and i will beat it

[north pulsar]

Hi is somebody willing to help with the multiplayer missions? I am trying to get platinum but achieving level 5 in multiplayer is nearly impossible

[shadow sorrel]

Anyone know the best times of day to get matches on the multiplayer?

In the UK, so I’m guessing it would be whatever peak US hours are

[drifting whale]

Anybody know that they've made a board game? ive just recently discovered that and im crying that ive only just now discovered such

[tepid musk]

The multiplayer grind for these trophies is such a slog 😭

Was it easier back when it was paid dlc?

[fringe minnow]

doom

[formal oxide]

Sooo good

[shadow sorrel]

Agreed, I think the one that might be most annoying to get is the multikill with the spectre - no idea how I’ll get that naturally with the player count being so low 🙄

[tepid musk]

I meant the expansion 1 armor one

You have to grind to like echelon 8

[shadow sorrel]

Ah ffs, didn’t realize it was that high, yeah might be a year before I get that, I’ve only just reached first echelon

[lost helm]

you go between mars and hell in most doom games

[potent mountain]

yeah there's an established reason why hes like this in 2016 and eternal

[strong thunder]

👍

[potent mountain]

we kinda know that already

did you play eternal?

[potent mountain]

ah ok. youll find out some of the answers to your questions when you play eternal then

[potent mountain]

yes

[gritty trail]

Haha it's worse in Eternal

[potent mountain]

well yeah if youre using it vs large demons then it takes a lot of charges

the way the mechanic works is that its a 1 shot kill and it refills your ammo. would be pretty OP if you could just do that over and over to heavies

[lofty charm]

I don't remember exactly about balance in vanilla, but it's something like this: Low Tier - 1 Fuel (Zombies, Imps, Soldiers, HellRazers); Mid Tier - 3 fuel (Hell Knights, Revenants, Summoners, Cacodemons, Pinkies); High Tier - 5 fuel (Mancubi, Barons).
I also didn't like it in 2016 and in Eternal and wanted Chainsaw to be more like weapon, rather than ability., so made fuel drops in 2016 and currently use More Refills mod for Eternal.

[lofty charm]

I would say In short about Eternal:
Sort of harder on average, but more ways to restore resources fast and more forgiving. Chainsaw restores 1 fuel after time. More buttons to remember (like Flame Belch for armor restoration).
Dash for the win - upgrade "faster recharge" first when possible. If you play on higher difficulties - upgrade health first.
But I think this topici belongs more to Eternal channel.

[torpid grotto]

hehe. Still my favorite slayer figure interaction

[indigo spire]

Is anyone there to level up? need a player

[tepid valve]

Same, that smooth finger animation at the end so good!

[indigo spire]

Hello, I am currently collecting everything and making the challenges. Mission 8 requires you to interact with two rune tests. Now it says 1/2, how do I fix it?

"I have definitely activated both of them and therefore can no longer interact with them."

[obsidian dirge]

@potent mountain @lofty charm did a purge delete to get rid of that unnecessary channel clog😂

Back on track now

[lofty charm]

Try to replay mission without dying (ARC?). But not sure, if you can get achievement for it now. Unfortunately, it get bugged sometimes.

[azure crater]

Yup

[indigo spire]

Thanks mate

[earnest cove]

Yeah you're cooked pretty much

I had this bug before and I couldn't find a way to fix it. You might get luckier than me though

If you're on PC, I'd recommend using SAM. Otherwise you may have to create a new campaign

[indigo spire]

I read that you should install patch 1.04 that fixes the bug. Otherwise, play again for a campaign

[earnest cove]

Tell me if it works for you

[indigo spire]

Do I... do I have to do four more missions now

I hope this works

[earnest cove]

I hope so. Yeah you'll need to 100% complete every mission to see if you actually get the achievements. If not, I still recommend using SAM, it's what I did. Otherwise you're pretty much locked out of two achievements. Good luck though

[sharp egret]

Anyone on Playstation that wants to play doom 2016 multilayer with me please DM me i want to get the trophies for the multiplayer stuff

[dapper gate]

Ultra violence is hard😢 but still a fun game

[stark mirage]

Hey guys. I'm doing platinum on the ps5, I need 2 achievements. Level 5 and one win. Is the online game completely dead? Doom

Hey guys. I'm doing platinum on the ps5, I need 2 achievements. Level 5 and one win. Is the online game completely dead? Eternal got doom, just like the last one. But not since 2016. He just can't find the game. Is there anyone who can help?

I am speak russian, undestand english, need 1 trophy, I have 3 lvl, need 5.

Sorry for my poor English

[wise wigeon]

hey, im searching for people on steam to get all of the multiplayer achievements with, could anyone help?

[potent mountain]

cringe take

[hallow creek]

im trying to get them too, sent you a friend invite on steam

[azure crater]

I need help with that trophy too! Work together?

[azure crater]

Same here dude

[indigo spire]

"It didn't work... I received all the trophies except the... get all the runes.

But since I received the trophy to have improved all the runes, I think it's bugged with me.

[lofty charm]

Then only way is to replay it, unfortunately. It gets bugged in ARC sometimes - best way to play this level without dying/reloading and finish it in 1 go.

[tough wasp]

Guys what do y'all think about Doom 2016 ?/10?

[lofty charm]

Last time I made rating for it, it was 8-9/10. Probably closer to 9 for me. But currently I have no clue how to rate it. I only know that it's my favorite of the series. 🤷‍♂️

[fringe minnow]

10/10 main game
9/10 in general (multiplayer, arcade and photo mode could have been way better)

the level design bought me. it's just that good

[lofty charm]

Yeah, I also like early levels level design in 2016 and a lot in 1993.
Arcade is fun. MP - played only vs bots a bit, but it was fun too to my surprise.
Also like classic maps.

[earnest cove]

9.5/10 only cause the achievements are wack and it doesn't receive updates

[earnest cove]

Yeah you have to replay the entire campaign

Just be sure to collect both Runes in one go when you play ARC

[indigo spire]

What is arc?

[earnest cove]

Advanced Research Complex

[indigo spire]

Okay, thx. Only 4 left. and then hopefully I'll get the trophy

[earnest cove]

good luck

[indigo spire]

Thank you. I ran through everywhere 😂

[tough wasp]

Really? It worked fine for me

[earnest cove]

Well I mean both that some of the achievements are bugged, as well as many of the achievements are just silly

I think most of the multiplayer achievements were unnecessary to put in the game, as well as the "Publish a SnapMap" achievement sort of encouraging players to post unfinished, premade maps just for the achievement, causing the SnapMap pages to be filled with almost entirely tutorial maps

[tough wasp]

Bruv

[obsidian dirge]

@lofty charm May try one of your challenges when I get time

[lofty charm]

Would be really interesting to see and wish you luck, if you would start one! 🥳
But take into account that Melee runs in 2016 are pure pain even with my Overhaul (but grenades/equipment make it easier, if allowed). And "barebones" run for 2016 I did only once for vanilla long ago on easy or normal and yeah, it was also horrible, especially vs bosses. Like: Pistol, Shotgun, 1 upgrade and BFG and that's it, if I remember right. Even worse than non-upgraded/classic runs in terms of difficulty. 💀 I think my current Eternal run is even easier, since at least I have a lot of weapons (but Urdak still was very painful). So I recommend to start on Easy/Normal.

[indigo spire]

"I played everything on the piece until Mission 9 and received the trophy after the last run and so did the platinum.

[earnest cove]

good job!

[grizzled glen]

Peak

9/10 only because of the long unskippable monologues

[torpid grotto]

real

i HATE being stuck in the room with hayden yapping off while i see how may people died

[grizzled glen]

For a game lauded for ignoring story there sure is a lot of unskippable exposition

[torpid grotto]

mhm

[potent mountain]

people say 2016 ignores story?

[grizzled glen]

That was a big thing everyone praised when it came out

They all acted like the intro cutscene where doomguy destroys the computer for trying to deliver exposition meant there was no story

[high onyx]

the game is perfect.
but i do not like how you can beat the game with just one gun.
8 out of 10.

[gritty trail]

Perfect 8/10

[lament girder]

My main problem with the plot/story in 2016 is how much it beats you over the head with a supposed 'mystery' about where the demons came from and expects you to care about how many people died and why as well as what you need to do next. All superfluous and with easy to gauge answers, but the game seems to think the player is too stupid to figure it out on their own.

The story may be smaller in scope compared to Eternal (and maybe TDA as well) but it also has the marks of mediocre storytelling with overexposing and reinforcing simple to grasp elements that should've been left alone after their introduction. As it stands, 2016 overexplains a lot of things the player already knows/can pick up on and Eternal is too vague/lax about things they SHOULD know.

[potent mountain]

i have to disagree. i very much enjoyed the mystery unraveling in 2016 and felt like i was getting a proper amount of exposition to help understand what was happening. i was curious the whole time about how exactly olivia managed to fall into corruption and how the demons came there

[lament girder]

The demons came there because, in broad terms, the UAC is stupid and got careless. It's a retake on the whole 'greedy corporation digs too deep' trope.

Hell corrupting people isn't exactly a very nuanced concept either. It's serviceable.

[potent mountain]

i mean it's doom. its supposed to be simple

im there to rip shit up

[lament girder]

Which is precisely why I think it's silly that 2016 treats it as a big important thing.

Olivia herself isn't even that important.

[potent mountain]

i mean a giant portal opened and everyone died

thats a pretty important thing

[lament girder]

Greedy corporation does an evil.

[potent mountain]

and olivia was the one that allowed that to happen

ok

i thought it was an interesting compelling story that was simple enough to follow and fun to unravel while im ripping and tearing

[lament girder]

And I'm not disagreeing with you.

[cold root]

the arcade mode in this game is super fun

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[cold root]

I feel like low-level weapons like the plasma rifle, heavy assault rifle and shotgun have more use in Doom 2016 compared to Eternal

[high onyx]

this is just wrong.
i do not wanna start an argument but,
the plasma and shotgun are ones of the high tier weapons in eternal,
and the heavy assault rifle is the best weapon in eternal just due to precision bolt.

[vital elm]

no

[tough wasp]

Speaking of guns

[vital elm]

nobody uses plasma or csg

[tough wasp]

Can someone tell me which gun do most damage(Pls no mention bfg 9000 that one is limited)

[vital elm]

super shotgun

[tough wasp]

Actually?

[vital elm]

1600 damage point blank

[vital elm]

yeah in eternal

[tough wasp]

Bro

Are u serious? This is doom 2016 not eternal

[vital elm]

oh im sped

[tough wasp]

Which means I am asking This question as IN doom 2016

[vital elm]

then its gauss cannon with seige mode

[tough wasp]

K thanks

[lofty charm]

If we talk about weapon mods, I agree regarding shotgun sticky bombs - I use them often. Plasma is ok. But Plasma Stun Bomb in 2016 is better than both mods in Eternal.
As for primary, I think they both (2016/Eternal versions) are kinda meh, but in 2016 it may be more used, since there are usually higher ratio of fodder and less strong enemies.

[lofty charm]

Gauss Cannon and Turret probably. I don't remember exact values but these are strongest usually.

[vital elm]

theyre useless in eternal

[lofty charm]

I use Sticky Bombs to destroy weak points (as an alternative to Assault Rifle or with it) and to deal AoE damage to fodder often.
Plasma Rifle primary - use to stun fodder and sometimes use it against Doom Hunter, but now I prefer just to destroy its sled instead of breaking its shield.
Heat Blast is ok/nice in both 2016/Eternal, but I rarely use it in Eternal - maybe there are not enough situations for it, don't know.

[potent mountain]

the speedrunners use heatblast quite frequently especially in the earlier levels

in eternal

[vital elm]

Heavy assault rifle is what i use for weakpoints or fodder clearing its actually pretty good. But i also use the ballista on weakpoints. Plasma rifle i only use for spirits or for fun.

in 2016 Plasma rifle is mad useful with stun bomb

[high onyx]

heatblast is a really great falter

the weapon is good, no need to say that it is "shits weak ahhh hell" just bc you dont know how to use it...

[vital elm]

Gauss cannon

You don’t need any weapon you could clear everything with combat shotgun

[lofty charm]

I don't play speedruns, but I do think it's useful and good. Just not used often by me.
In 2016 I prefered it over Stun Bomb, since I didn't use Stun Bombs ofter for very long time and just liked this free damage.)

[cold root]

man I don't remember having this much fun with Doom 2016
last time I played it was when I beat it for the first time 4 years ago

[high onyx]

i need to replay doom 2016 after these 150 hours that i have in eternal...

[lofty charm]

I don't use Micro Missiles much for some reason in 2016 (with exception to Rich Get Richer)/Eternal, even though they are better vs fodder at longer distances and with juicy AoE. And I personally think choice in case of Plasma Rifle/Assault Rifle is most problematic, since they have common niche for primary and in Etenal both very useful in terms of at least 1 mod (Precision Bolt/Heat Blast). In 2016 Plasma Rifle weapon mods feel more superior for me and Assault RIfle Scope is more niche, I guess, while Micro Missiles are good, but then you can shoot with primary on bigger distances, so don't know. 🤷‍♂️
Well, it's hard to compete with Stun Bomb in 2016 - true. But its among strongest tools.

[vital elm]

Tactical scope in 2016 is rlly satisfying idk why

So I always use it even tho missiles are better

[high onyx]

caught using the six seven emote

[lofty charm]

It is - I like scope, but impact isn't very satisfying for me and not many areas where to use it+if not to use against fodder Gauss Sniper is better vs stronger enemies in same niche. I modded Scope into 2 bullet/shot, longer time between shots with higher damage and even higher damage on headshots, but still not sure its what I was searched for. Precision bolt feels better, even while consumes more ammo.

[fringe minnow]

deathless mode is making me crazy

i find it easier to die on the very first levels since the arsenal is very limited

so i keep replaying the first 3 levels until i finally get to play the rest of the game

only to die because of a stupid decision and having to replaying the same 3 levels again

[lofty charm]

Yeah, UN is pain, especially for someone as sloppy and clumsy as me.
Nighmare is a good way to train for it, though.

[cold root]

I found nightmare to be doable when playing the first 2 levels on it on arcade mode

[fringe minnow]

man i swear to God i could draw the whole of these three levels from memory by the amount of times i played them

[fringe minnow]

it's a good call, but thing is, once i manage to get some upgrade, i can't "unget" it. i can map the upgrades' locations, sure, but i can't pretend to play the levels without the upgrades once i get them, which makes a real difference

[lofty charm]

They are all doable, but Arcade Mode is easier, since you have more upgrades.
Without upgrades it's more painful, especially without having room for mistake like with UN. But I finished whole game on Nightmare with no upgrades back in the days with only few deaths, so it's doable too. But.I think I tried to finish VEGA Core with no upgrades this year (?) and I died like 20 times on last arena, lol. So it requires some preparations.

[fringe minnow]

doom is somewhat a rhythm game, specially in the beggining. grenades, bullets, enemies, counting them is a good way to make the challenge

[open jetty]

I got doom 2016 after getting quake

Both are nice

[cold root]

I use the explosive shot and stun bomb a LOT in the early levels

[open jetty]

I like to hit things to death because I feel more powerful that way

[fringe minnow]

explosive combat shotgun is a blessed weapon in this game

[cold root]

playing TDA made me want to replay 2016 and Eternal for some reason 😭

[vital elm]

TDA has the least replayablity

[lofty charm]

These are 2 the best at the start, I think and it's easy to get mastery for them too. Stun Bomb is amazing in general.

My general approach:

• Weapon Mods: Shotgun Explosive Shot, Plasma Stun Bomb, Launcher Lock On, SSG, Gauss SIege Mode, Chaingun Turret.
• Argent Cells Upgrades: Health or Ammo (depends what you struggle the most, but a bit of health at the start is always welcome). Armor becomes more important only, when you get Armored Offensive/Siphon+Equipment Power.
• Suit upgrades: depends on playstyle, but I think grenades is always good way to go. Map upgrades are needed only, if player doesn't remember where stuff is placed (in this case priority # 1). Faster actions are nice, Protection from own shots is nice and Powerup things are also nice to certain degree.
• Runes: most Runes are nice.
  Early game: Dazed and Confused, Ammo Boost, Equipment Power.
  Mid game: In-Flight Mobility (if prefered), Armored Offenssive +1 of the previous.
  Late game: Saving throw (especially on UN), Rich Get Richer with either Armored Offensive or Equipment Power+Siphon. Ammo Boost for BFG spam. In-Flight Mobility, if prefered.

[vital elm]

best runes are in-flight, equipment power, and ammo boost

im always taking damage so rich get richer is useless

[lofty charm]

If you upgrade grenades for suit and get Armored Offensive or Siphon+Equipment Power and then Rich Get Richer you basically would always have enough armor to have infinite ammo to spam strongest weapon mods like Gauss Siege or Chaingun Turret, which would melt enemies before they would have chance to deal damage. It's like easiest way to play 2016 without techs and other stuff. Ammo Boost is another way, since BFG drops and you can clean arenas with 1 click.

[vital elm]

yeah but thats like to easy

[open jetty]

Is there a chainsaw and how do you get it

[gritty trail]

That is the point of best runes I imagine

[vital elm]

its like in the 2nd lvl

[gritty trail]

There is. You should be able to find it by just looking around, hard to miss

[open jetty]

Alright I have to go play a little more

[cold root]

what was the method for quickly maxing out weapon upgrades in 2016 and Eternal again?

as in something to do with the save system

[vital elm]

what method

[open jetty]

I think you rip and tear until it is done

[lofty charm]

It's, but as AnomeQ said that's the point, especially for UN runs, which are painful and you can be killed by some random bug (falling through the floor or being send into space or getting killed right after GK etc).
It's biggest output approach you can get.

[cold root]

I feel like Doom 2016's ultra-nightmare is ultimately a waste of time since the reward for beating it is absolutely nothing

[vital elm]

the reward for beating it is bragging rights

[vital elm]

so does that mean im cooler if i dont do that

[cold root]

I just had this realization recently.
my dad uses steam family sharing to play some of my steam games. with this, can I install Doom 2016 on his account and use it as a booster for mp achievements?

[lofty charm]

Don't rememeber, unfortunately. But yeah, you can get it somehow faster. I just never used it. There is also way to dupe stuff, if I remember correctly.
I personally just upgrade normally+if I play on Nighmare or less or use Mission Select to farm, if don't want to keep masteries in mind.

[lofty charm]

Earliest chainsaw is right after 1st arena in 2nd level. But you can get it later in a lot of spots.

[cold root]

I feel like I can play Doom 2016 with a mixed playstyle that is like both Eternal and my own
quickswapping back and forth between strong weapons for strong enemies and using the chainsaw to get ammo, but also occasionally using weaker weapons for fodder

[lofty charm]

I mean, it's just an additional challenge or way to play a game. In Eternal you also get only formal skin and that's it, if I remember right.
But yeah, as CappieWorshipper9000 said - bragging rights. 😅

[lofty charm]

You play like you want to play. Want extra challenge - sure: other ways would be more challenging than this maximum OP approach.

[lofty charm]

Theoretically. Never used family sharing at the same time.
I know you can get most achievements with bots on PC apart from 2 (Scanner and Golden Rating?).

Also Doom 2016 allows more accessible ways to approach it. Apart from challenges on Nightmare/UN.

[open jetty]

I have my precious, an assault rifle, and a plasma rifle

[cold root]

bro the difference between Doom 2016 and Eternal nightmare difficulties is insane
I beat Eternal's first level on nightmare rather easily, but in 2016 I died in the very first gore nest encounter in the game and also in the first real fight after the tutorial 😭

[open jetty]

Gng I know the difficulties names "extreme nightmare testicle twister death fire-nado" tent to be difficult

[lofty charm]

Yeah, earliest levels are the hardest. Main tactic is to move from one corner to another or find sweet spots to camp and avoid damage by breaking line of sight. when performing GKs it's best to use enemy as a shield during it, since you can get damaged right after GK.

[open jetty]

What I do is spam glory kills but I'm in easy mode idk how it is on any other mode

[cold root]

I'm shocked at how enemies give extremely low amounts of hp with glory kills in 2016 nightmare
literally just 5 hp? really?

[lofty charm]

Yep, resource amount/output is lower with each difficulty. It is really different to Eternal, which has stable 20 HP drop for each difficulty.
Earlier levels more like survival in terms of magining resources. So you need to be very tactical with GKs to avoid losing more than gainging during it.

[lofty charm]

It's different on Nightmare, but yeah I also try to play mostly via GKs approach, which isn't a good tactic on Nightmare/UN in some cases.

[cold root]

this is probably THE main reason as to why 2016 nightmare is harder than Eternal

[lofty charm]

On earlier levels - yeah. But in later levels you can have way easier time with right gear/upgrades compared to Eternal, since strong monsters don't drastically increase in numbers until VEGA Core and at that point you have a lot of strong/OP tools.

[fickle gale]

Peak game

[high onyx]

bc barons in eternal are way harder, so there is less of them.

[lofty charm]

Yeah, you can easilly melt Barons with Siege Mode and other stuff. Barons in 2016 seems to be slower, less precise and maybe even have less health/resistance (?). Also, while they still quite strong enemies, in same Kadingir Sanctum and in most other maps, they either not very well supported, either there are something like powerups/BFG ammo to destroy them quick.

Also regarding Eternal - there are 2 Barons in Mars Core at least (maybe somewhere else), which also supported by fine fodder and few mid/high tier enemies like Arachnatron, if I remember correctly.

[river zealot]

Hi everyone
This may be an odd question, but could anyone help me with something?
I‘m currently trying to get all achivments on the PS4 version of Doom 2016. Didn’t realise that on console literally no one is playing it, so i thought I ask into the community direktly:
Is someone open for a few rounds / would be so kind helping me get the achivments?

[lofty charm]

I remember people above searched for PS5 companions for MP. Don't know, if PS4/PS5 connected as one system, though.
#doom-2016 message

[river zealot]

Its connected thx

[cold root]

I forgot where this weapon was in this level and walked past it 💀

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/815307181628457040/1498380971760685146/image.png?ex=69f0f386&is=69efa206&hm=b146d428608e821799b6c3038eb9d6084074e9402d2096fd39fec28d469a0f34&

[open jetty]

Glory kills are the second best part of doom

(number 1 is chainsaw)

[gritty trail]

For the first few playthroughs

[open jetty]

They are so fun

All playthroughs I will play they will be my second favorite part

[gritty trail]

Until they get repetetive! But if you do love them to push past that then that's dope

[lofty charm]

Even after 2000-3000+ hours GKs still among my favorite elements of a game. They are repetitive and some are a bit underwhelming, but I still like them so much.
I probably need to install GK Overhaul mod by Beth and make compatiblity with mine to get even more options for juicy GKs.

[cold root]

I'm replaying 2016 and Eternal back to back and I feel like 2016 has the superior gameplay due to things like its more old school feel, more punchy weapon sounds, I think the gore effects, sounds and glory kills are better etc

weirdly enough despite Eternal having objectively superior gore for enemy models I think 2016's gore is better? idk why

[lofty charm]

Yeah, 2016 feels more like classic shooter with new mechanics and new loop on top.
2016 is more bloody and more fleshy (?). Plus models for enemies seem to be a bit better. But not sure I like bloody part - I like blood being left on the ground, chunks of flesh etc., but blood on boides hides wounds a bit too much for my taste. But don't know, if I would want to change it, since wounds aren't as detailed as in Eternal, anyway, so not a big problem, I think.

[cold root]

though I do enjoy both. if I want a slower but still fast and more relaxing experience, I play 2016, and if I want a faster, more skill based and stressful experience, I play Eternal

[lofty charm]

Also GKs in Eternal and in 2016 have different approach:

• 2016 more stable/consistent in power and more about punching/tearing enemies apart with bare hands.
• Eternal is more around the place in terms of power, but has more variations and more about new blade addition.

Same. ❤️ 2016 is just more optimal for me, but I enjoy Eternal too a lot, especially with these 2 mods I use now. But later levels in Eternal still drag too much for me. 😵‍💫
I mean, both can be challenging, but in a different way and depending from what challenge to set.
It's actually really cool that all reboot games have some same core things, but play so different with their additional stuff.

[open jetty]

Even if I'm used to seeing them pulling apart the skulls of the demons is cool

Also you heal so there's a practical reason to like them

[cold root]

also Eternal has plenty of extra lives while 2016 doesn't have that at all

[lofty charm]

True. Eternal has more forgiving stuff like Extra Lives (apart from UN, if I remember right) and low HP damage mitingation and loop is more rewarding, even with more pressure on average. 2016 goes "upgrade from weak too strong and rip and tear them all in seconds" route, but when upgraded well.

[cold root]

Eternal's extra lives system makes you able to go away with making mistakes in the absolute hardest fights without much punishment 😂

I lost quite a few in Cultist Base

[vital elm]

Peak Eternal

[lost helm]

2016's feel more brutal while Eternal's feel more surgical

I think I definitely prefer the 2016 GKs (especially the Pinky's) but there's a charm to the doomblade too

[lofty charm]

True. But I mean, in a sense it's part of the point - it gives player options, which player can use. Want to make game easier - pick up or even farm extra lives. Want it to be less forgiving don't pick up them. And things like that. Also it helps with the continuation of the flow and rewards extra exploration.
2016 is more rough in this aspect. Though, in the files there is extra life analog code, which allows to respawn from health picked after death and command, which allows to respawn in closest checkpoint without reloading, but these are not finished and have sound being bugged.

[cold root]

my favourite demon in the game!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1498468862319136840/image.png?ex=69f14560&is=69eff3e0&hm=22860ccc9e49b25528f400a3802b2cc7bfebf8bf09d4c7e8b26003a3ebea020e&

[cosmic iron]

I wish they were in Eternal, just for that enemy variety yk

[cold root]

bro where are you going

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/937075841366630421/1498471198453923961/hellrazer.mp4?ex=69f1478d&is=69eff60d&hm=4f63b93f1097c7d534a09c638222a3812967ebc8b6569afa2073d725f9e7c97d&

[lofty charm]

Far away from here. Just demon with self-preservation instinct.

[vital elm]

ew play with classic weapon position

[cosmic iron]

This has to be satire lmao

[vital elm]

you know what isnt

playing wit classic position

[cosmic iron]

https://tenor.com/view/caldruki-einstein-nikola-tesla-gif-14422382707037544026

I should try completing a level on classic weapon pose sometime

[vital elm]

its way more feel good

[cosmic iron]

I tend to like weapons that are more off to the side, like the Gauss Cannon

[fringe minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/man-runs-fast-gif-23897588

[cosmic iron]

The Hellrazer AI is so fucked 😭

They’re like TABS units

[vital elm]

bc ur a baby

[cosmic iron]

Stop the ragebait 😭

https://tenor.com/view/escrever-woman-stop-writing-woman-writing-mulher-escrevendo-stantwitter-gif-1173262925804927370

[vital elm]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182

[cosmic iron]

https://tenor.com/view/mapleshade-warrior-cats-warriors-this-person-is-km-near-your-house-rapidly-approaching-gif-11716079160852858018

[vital elm]

mb

https://tenor.com/view/scout-gif-25786536

[cosmic iron]

The cat of evil and knocking cups of tables is after you 🙀

[cosmic iron]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-terminator-fire-explosion-skeleton-gif-16779623

dies

[vital elm]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-doom-baron-of-hell-glory-kill-doom-slayer-gif-18709153

[cosmic iron]

Lmao

[cold root]

would you guys say quickswapping between strong weapons is just as essential for 2016's nightmare as Eternal's nightmare?

[vital elm]

its a core part of playing the game

you'll fail without it

[cosmic iron]

Somewhat

[vital elm]

do you guys not use quickswapping in 2016 or smth

[cosmic iron]

The Gauss SSG quick swapping really saved me a couple times

[cosmic iron]

Depends. I kinda like testing weapons to their limits in 2016

Now Eternal is the opposite for me lol

[vital elm]

yeah

[cosmic iron]

Is this a scam or smth? 💀

Praying nobody clicks that link

[cold root]

if so, in the later parts of the game I would quick swap back and forth between super shotgun, gauss cannon and rocket launcher

[cosmic iron]

Do you do any like movement tech with the Gauss? That’s partly why I quick swap to it

[cold root]

nah

[cosmic iron]

Flying across the arena and whatnot

[vital elm]

how do you do that

is it possible on xbox

[cosmic iron]

They actually clicked it…

[icy pond]

down bad fools

[cosmic iron]

<@&162901871168585728>

[vital elm]

it says cute egrils ofc they would click

[cosmic iron]

Some scam going around

Someone’s account got hacked, and another follower after

Through clicking the link I’d assume

This as well

[icy pond]

let me try

[clever glacier]

Hey, so I wanted to get into the Metroid series, but I don't know where to start, I thought about playing Metroid Prime trilogy for the Wii, should I do it?

[lofty charm]

It's not essential nor in 2016 nor in Eternal. I use quickswapping only against Marauder and olny most simple one. But it increases your DPS making things way easier.

[jagged vapor]

Is the multiplayer of doom 2016 dead? Im planning to get 100% achievements.

[potent mountain]

basically

[sand radish]

I can help you if you need help

Just need one more person

[jagged vapor]

do you have doom 2016?

[sand radish]

Doom eternal yes

With the battle field 2.0

[jagged vapor]

I dont have doom eternal yet. I only have doom 2016.

[sand radish]

Oh i didnt think that had multiplayer

[potent mountain]

this is the 2016 channel

[river zealot]

Still need someone? Trying the same

[jagged vapor]

I still need someone for multiplayer but Im still not done with the campaign

[river zealot]

Which platform? I‘m playing on PS5

[jagged vapor]

PC, steam

[river zealot]

Naw thats to bad

[keen copper]

I need some multi trophies to ps4/ps5

[ripe panther]

So I’ve been trying to play my switch 2 more often (haven’t played it ever since pokemon legends dropped. And I remembered I have doom 2016 (and bought eternal for $10 on sale. Double the slaying fun) so I had this dumb idea where I try and beat doom 2016 on nightmare mode or UV with a 30fps cap

[keen copper]

One player needed to ps4/ps5 europe match
(First mode ) for beginners

Now

[noble moat]

I’ve beaten UN on switch it’s not a dumb idea

[cosmic iron]

The Gauss Cannon is awesome

[silver scaffold]

Gotta love it

[cinder knoll]

Super Metroid 🙌

[cold root]

I love Kadingir Sanctum

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/937075841366630421/1498736544859816037/image.png?ex=69f23ead&is=69f0ed2d&hm=ccf909731b846674d68a61675c609743a722688ebc445cc1f7b92a76bb8a6dd5&

[cold root]

do you guys use the 2016 chainsaw mainly as an ammo refill or an instant kill button for strong enemies?

[maiden urchin]

since I spam gauss siege and ssg i use it as ammo refill

[lofty charm]

In vanilla mostly to refill ammo, but since there is so much ammo in vanilla I use it rarely for that and have periodical chance to chainsaw strong enemies.

[cold root]

plasma rifle stun bomb is so good. basically ice bomb before ice bomb existed

[fringe minnow]

it depends on my mood playing

[cosmic iron]

I love how wooden 2016 Hell is

There's so much dead plantlife, it really paints a picture

[cosmic iron]

Dude that encounter was my end lmao

I was doing the previous part of the arena well, and expected a safe passage

Heck, I even used up all my BFG ammo

But oh my days I got cooked, had to do the entire sequence all over again

I do think it’s the best arena of DOOM (2016)

Yeah same thought here

Pinkies are probably my least favorite enemy in both Eternal and 2016

Neither their design, moves, or hit box really get me hyped

[fiery stream]

Hello. I need help with Doom online trophies

[compact dove]

Best weapon

[cold root]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR0mpgGzg-k

[vital elm]

Haha

[potent mountain]

kill the caco first, then kite the hellknights to the back side of the arena where there's that spot with the jump up in the corner and then just go back and forth over there going up and down the jump kiting away from the hellknights and pinkies as they try to chase you up/down there

[worthy sun]

two weeks until the 10 year anni

[cosmic iron]

Hell yeah 🔥

[lofty charm]

Cyberdemon drops health between phases and drops ammo between health states. Also Cyberdemon considered as easiest boss (though, I think Hell Guards are easier).
Best way to approach both 2016 and Eternal is to play 1-2 levels maximum not to get burned out on 1st playthroughs. When I played 1st time both, I played few+ levels in a row and then got burned out and tired and dropped them often half way through.

[cold root]

Doom 2016 came out exactly 10 days before my 10th birthday lmao 😭

in may, the game will turn 10 years old, I will turn 20 years old. damn

[cold root]

opinions on this tier list?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1499165529162776757/image.png?ex=69f3ce33&is=69f27cb3&hm=ad661fe41907d69ec703682778118ef5d320e3fa00297f950970489c75571b54&

[balmy bough]

Get the hell razer out of here bro

Put them at the bottom

[lofty charm]

No, lol. But with some I agree.
Hell Razers are something for sure.

[cold root]

I put the Hell Razer on the top because he's my favourite Doom 2016 enemy lmao

[cinder cobalt]

Rev is the best in the modern trilogy

[stuck bay]

Anyone up for boosting levels in Doom 2016?

[cosmic iron]

The Hell Knight deserves better, it's up there with the Baron of Hell I'd say

[cold root]

I feel like no dashing unironically makes the Hell Knight and Baron more difficult to fight than their Eternal versions

[cosmic iron]

True!

Although, the shotgun reloading in 2016 makes Hell Knights die pretty fast

The more claustrophobic arenas in the later levels make Barons insanely tough to outpace

[cold root]

how did this get so many likes, was it because of the caption I used for it? 😭

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/815307181628457040/1499188984566386809/image.png?ex=69f3e40b&is=69f2928b&hm=bdd32778f074869d5c9d56fb290e8e279682f83495acd5c789ad9bb3626126dc&

has anyone here played the VR spinoff of this game?

[fringe minnow]

in my almost 70 hours of playtime, i've died to every enemy except hell razer

[desert bison]

hey me!

[fringe minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/petter-griffin-falling-of-the-stairs-nosolohit-gif-17661397000889481231

[high onyx]

hey guys, am planning to come back to doom 2016 after playing eternal for 400hr.
ive played doom 2016 6 years ago.
what difficulty should i pick?
-# (ive played all master levels in eternal on nightmare)

[lofty charm]

UV/NIghtmare.

[potent mountain]

just pick whatever you want and if its too easy/hard change it

[valid trellis]

this ↑↑

[lofty charm]

It's impossible without LegacyMod to change difficulty from Nightmare or to Nightmare in 2016, though. Which is a shame.

[potent mountain]

nightmare or bust

[somber blade]

?

[chilly juniper]

I'm deadass scared of hell knights in 2016

[lament girder]

HKs don't do much in the new games.

[high onyx]

okay. am gonna play on UV

[urban kernel]

That one recorded hologram near the beginning of the game still traumatizes me

[lament girder]

TDA probably has the deadliest.

[chilly juniper]

Tell that to one I blew off with the ssg

Lol

Dark ages hell knights feel like fodder to me. The ones from 2016 were on a DIFFERENT TIMING

[chilly juniper]

Same

[cold root]

made this gif XD

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/464416780933267466/1499452266867069068/caption.61c25ec1.gif?ex=69f4d93e&is=69f387be&hm=13b8256c8fe5db0c746665ac336192286d958636957e86e644b7bd47c020472d&

[valid trellis]

.......and stolen

[cold root]

do you guys consider the Hell Razer as another variant of the Possessed Soldier?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1499454907671908473/image.png?ex=69f4dbb4&is=69f38a34&hm=a71fb652d0b905d79ccd9b598258421e713b0d7bb2f2124e00354072d3cc9127&

[potent mountain]

no it's a hell razer

[cosmic iron]

No, but they're very interesting design wise

Smth with the single eye and the arm canon almost gives me the idea that they're related with the manc in some capacity

The 2016 one

[hidden linden]

Some people should hop on PC team play, North America, also if any of you still play multiplayer, what times are you most likely to find matches on PC

[cold root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465236787850248202/1499487411355517098/thebfgweaponwheelglitchisreallygood.mp4?ex=69f4f9f9&is=69f3a879&hm=5f1080f184ce72b8c9208d384358f5428a444fe2223c3ee6a881d4aa64fe6f5a&

[tough wasp]

Chat wish me luck

I'm gonna play doom 2016 in Ultra nightmare

[tough wasp]

Ok bad news:İ quit at Foundry

[fringe minnow]

it's so simple but so genius at the same time

[tough wasp]

Hell knight genuinely ragebaited me

[fringe minnow]

the first 3 levels are always the hardest tbh

on harder difficulties i mean

[tough wasp]

İ mean fighting hell knight or baron of hell on first playthrough is extremely almost impossible for me

Because The speed&appearance terrifies me bit

[fringe minnow]

they have an animation for jumping from one floor to another

and an animation for a "jump attack"

both have some delay before he starts to chase you down again

you could focus on killing the imps while you change floors

thing is, the hell knights will kill you once you get too close while they're on their "chasing" stage, so once you get too close, focus on going away

[cold root]

man Doom 2016's later levels are an absolute cakewalk even on nightmare with the numerous upgrades you get

[tough wasp]

What do you mean by cakewalk?

[obsidian dirge]

It means easy

Like they aren't a challenge in the later levels because the weapons and upgrades are so powerful

[torpid grotto]

2016 has gotten easier for me. I was able to beat the easiest difficulty without dying to any demons outside the rune trails. The only thing that really killed me was the platforming because I'm not a platforming person.

[obsidian dirge]

Yeah it takes some getting used to. Esp. when it's not like Eternal, there's no fall damage or shield to help with that. Just death.

[torpid grotto]

I know that sounds weak af since its easiest difficulty but I have bad vision and poor reaction time sometimes. So it was a big thing for me. It was also on my switch 2 and the first half was in a car.

I should try on the next difficulty.

[obsidian dirge]

It doesn't sound weak, you play at the level you feel you are capable of or enjoy at the moment. No judgement here whatsoever. You can always do higher later, or not at all. I have photosensitivity issues and sometimes Eternal is too much for me, or specific levels in Classic Doom. And bad vision makes shooter games difficult, so you do what you can. Have fun in it and make it your own.

[torpid grotto]

Thanks man! I'm very proud of myself because 2016 seems to be a bit harder on my than eternal due to a few things. So beating it on too young to die by only dying to bad parkor makes me very happy

[obsidian dirge]

You should absolutely be proud of it. And another thing I wanna add, Doom 2016 is harder in certain aspects than the other Doom games, I will argue that over and over. Good job, slayer!

[clever glacier]

So I just revisited Mario Kart Wii on my 15 year old Wii and it's just as good as I remember

[obsidian dirge]

Great. Post about it in #general chat

[cold root]

in terms of their nightmare difficulties, I think 2016 is harder than Eternal in the early levels, but easier in the later ones

[obsidian dirge]

#doom-2016 message

I already said that in reiterating to what you said.

Which is what you replied to so...ok?

omg stop

[cold root]

[torpid grotto]

Is their any parkor tips i could get for the platforming or am I screwed?

because combat im ok, HOWEVER the platforms and parkor gets me everytime.

Like I SWEAR it doesn't register sometimes for the ledge or the double jump

[lost helm]

what level are you at

[torpid grotto]

Not playing rn. But mostly just all parts of the game.

[obsidian dirge]

I can make a video tonight and upload it for you and break it down

I'll do Argent Energy Tower

[torpid grotto]

Thank you so much! That will be helpful!

[obsidian dirge]

Just the beginning parts and we'll go through it 🙂

np

[obsidian dirge]

Just finished. Let me edit quick and I'll upload in a few

[torpid grotto]

Thank you LM

[obsidian dirge]

Ofc. I've got two for you

And if there's a certain other level or area you need help with I've gotchu

[torpid grotto]

I'm actually play 2016 tonight now

OH! I was already doing a ultra violence run on 2016. ETERNAL and 2016 ultra violence lets go

[cold root]

I died so many times during the platforming segments of Argent Tower 😭

had to open the Classic Doom area so many times

[tough wasp]

Guys I finished the uac mission finally

[fast surge]

just now?

[tough wasp]

I think it was like yesterday

And I died on foundry I'm gonna retry

[fast surge]

ok but still just beat UAC? isn't that the first level?

[tough wasp]

Yea