Especially in 2016
#doom-2016
winter stream
Power fantasies are just... copium
still lily
the possesed scientist sloppy
elder meadow
Power fantasies are just... copium
What does this mean
baron of hell ripping slayer's lower body
the revenant just removing his arms
hell knight stomping on the face
i love it
still lily
ig they removed it cuz it doesnt line up with "le epic god is epic" lore they're going for
elder meadow
Power fantasies are just... copium
"but doomguy thanos snap universes"
winter stream
I just don't get the appeal of power fantasies other than out of insecurity
elder meadow
C’mon dude
still lily
same.
elder meadow
if the slayer was invincible like that why would hell bother fight it even
It isn’t complex. People like to kill things while feeling unstoppable. Action games feed into some kind of fantasy one way or another.
still lily
i mean i like being powerful out of skill and earning it but having to write it into lore how invincible and badass a character is is like, shit i did when i was 12 making halo ocs
ig i just dont like OP characters unless they pull off ridiculously entertaining OP stuff
like metal gear rising lmao
winter stream
It isn’t complex. People like to kill things while feeling unstoppable. Action g...
Not necessarily. Take roguelite and soulslike games for example.
elder meadow
Doesn’t really matter, since that power fantasy is earned through skill and experience with the game mechanics.
elder meadow
Doesn’t really matter, since that power fantasy is earned through skill and expe...
ultra nightmare
winter stream
Doesn’t really matter, since that power fantasy is earned through skill and expe...
It's not a fantasy then, it's you doing all the work to be powerful
elder meadow
Don’t know why you’d care if Doomguy is canonically unstoppable since the narrative is one of the lowest priorities in these games
winter stream
Don’t know why you’d care if Doomguy is canonically unstoppable since the narrat...
It was, until DE
elder meadow
lol
still lily
"we're building a doom universe" actually made me wince
elder meadow
It's not a fantasy then, it's you doing all the work to be powerful
You don’t understand how that works.
still lily
lore nerds scrolling through each line of dialoge to see how butt ass naked slayer killed the power ranger enemy
let us fight the power ranger enemy.. why you gotta tell me all this shit id rather be doing isntead of hearing? I need naked doomguy please...
elder meadow
You don’t understand how that works.
A power fantasy is just making you feel stronger than you actually are. This doesn’t mean it’s necessarily handed to you.
still lily
2016 was the closest we'll ever get to naked guy
elder meadow
Simple stuff
winter stream
It's the handed to you power fantasy that I am talking about tho
elder meadow
And it’s silly to consider the story a focus now just because there’s cutscenes (skippable) and codex’s nerds can read up on (optional).
still lily
soo badass sooo crazyyyyy holy shit he could defeat satan with a spoon!!! and then in gameplay you just get bodied by an imp
thats why odst was a cool concept for me. I feel like doom really needs some sorta. Elite Guard or UAC guard spinoff where you're just a cool naturally powerful dude. no magic testicles or something
elder meadow
There’s definitely some ludo-narrative dissonance there, but I think the ultimate goal of modern Doom is to build you up until you feel like the Doomslayer through sheer skill and game knowledge. It’s rewarding asf to dominate demons that were giving you a hard time when you first started the game.
winter stream
And it’s silly to consider the story a focus now just because there’s cutscenes ...
There's still in-game sections that force you to listen to lore like the guided tour through Nekravol narrated by Samuel Hayden
still lily
pretty sure theres some unskippable story bits
elder meadow
Pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. Your enjoyment doesn’t hinge on your understanding of why everything is happening.
still lily
but 2016 had that issue aswell. at least you can skip it with a speedrun trick I think lmao
winter stream
But also skippable cutscenes are standard, even for story-focused games
elder meadow
Feel like it’s becoming less common as of late lol
still lily
unskippable sequences with no player input is literally so dull. kills alot of replayabilty for some games
finally got into a 2016 FFA match
elder meadow
Point being that DE isn’t a cinematic story driven game that breaks up combat with long mandatory walking sections full of exposition. Not to say that’s completely nonexistent in either games, just on the back burner.
still lily
never seen such an underrated MP mode for a game
inner kelp
Just finished the cyberdemon boss feeling epic
halcyon bear
Just finished the cyberdemon boss feeling epic
cold root
Just finished the cyberdemon boss feeling epic
awesome
the boss fights in this game are awesome
elder meadow
Too bad there’s only 3
elder meadow
Hi
scarlet mulch
Too bad there’s only 3
there should have been more imo
dusk musk
there should have been more imo
fr, the hell guardians are tons of fun imo
scarlet mulch
Nahh only if they added the mother demon as a secret boss
still lily
hell guards are my favorite cuz they remind me of hunters from halo where theyre all big and bad but then under their armor its just worm
halcyon bear
hell guards are my favorite cuz they remind me of hunters from halo where theyre...
I love that . Worm in a suit thing
halcyon bear
Hahahahaha true .. probably the love started with me and ninja turtles
Only real ogs know
still lily
lmao
elder meadow
Hell Guard design is kind of lame but I like the boss fight
the arena is wallpaper material
still lily
Hell Guard design is kind of lame but I like the boss fight
worm :(
weak blaze
hey guys, are there some people still playing multiplayer in doom 2016 ? I would like to try it out and get all the achievments on steam, but i couldnt find single match.
weak blaze
oh nice, i will just try my luck then, thanks
high perch
still lily
ok
fluid fossil
im so surprised servers are still alive
sturdy dew
ima download this again
Just cuz i enjoyed the multiplayer way too much
Servers are alive yes?
prisma scarab
I would love to play again tomorrow. I just want to unlock the templat chest plate lol
still spire
Servers are alive yes?
nope,unfortunately not
i do a match and hardly any people join
still spire
yeah it was a real bummer,thats why i joined this server
we could do a few matches if you’d like
sturdy dew
Well we could but idk how fun its gonna be compared to a full lobby
winter stream
they're technically alive in that they haven't been shut down, but yeah, not very active
still spire
i mean yea sure
ight dm me once u wanna
strong radish
does anyone play the multiplayer
still lily
a surprising amount of people actually do its just no one gets on at the same time
snow heron
I still find full lobbies on the Switch version of all things fairly often surprisingly
humble junco
nice
dusk musk
Hell Guard design is kind of lame but I like the boss fight
Boss fight is really fun
tepid jolt
TIL that certain parts of Hell have mutilated baron corpses mounted on the wall, just like in the original game. I’ve always wondered what those barons did to be killed that way
pure talon
hey im tryna get all the achievments is playing with bots valid and if not how do i find online games ????:)))
cold root
Cacodemons in this game always get gibbed when they die for some reason
it’s really odd, at least Eternal made them die normally
it doesn’t matter what weapon kills them, even just the pistol makes them break into a million pieces
zealous spindle
I have a problem, i loaded the save files i made on PS4 on a PS5 and all the missions are there completed but all my weapons are gone, same for my upgrades and runes
dusk musk
TIL that certain parts of Hell have mutilated baron corpses mounted on the wall,...
They got too silly
snow heron
it doesn’t matter what weapon kills them, even just the pistol makes them break ...
there giant bloody balloons
halcyon bear
it’s really odd, at least Eternal made them die normally
One of the things I disliked about battlemode also
cold root
I heard somewhere that the 2016 versions of demons from Eternal still exist in that game
so, that means Cyclops Mancubus is still present in the time Eternal takes place
elder meadow
yeah
tawny cove
sad day today
PS plus membership ran out so i can no longer play DOOM 2016
atleast i got platinum on it
fading maple
I got the soundtrack for DOOM 2016 on vinyl for my birthday today!
elder meadow
I heard somewhere that the 2016 versions of demons from Eternal still exist in t...
Yeah all the demons from Doom 1-2016 exist in Eternals Hell
They’re from different tribes and sub-species
So Doom 2’s Hell Knights, Doom 64’s mutated demons, and Doom 3’s new demon designs are all canon
tepid jolt
There is the question of whether they have stuck around in-universe. The cyberdemon in 2016 is the last of his kind IIRC. The original Hell knights are seemingly also extinct
elder meadow
Yeah some have gone extinct, usually because of either the doomslayer or because they were part of a failed rebellion
But I doubt all the demons that haven’t returned are officially extinct. Prob just inhabiting some other part of hell.
elder meadow
Wise words
elder meadow
wood
slim pebble
So are Hell Razers a form of Possessed or something else? It's mentioned that they are parasites.
tepid jolt
Something like that
halcyon bear
So are Hell Razers a form of Possessed or something else? It's mentioned that th...
Ya just parasites that take over the body I'd guess a worm much like hell guards
half sequoia
No
halcyon bear
what is a lazarus wave
It's basically a wave of argent energy
elder meadow
So are Hell Razers a form of Possessed or something else? It's mentioned that th...
I thought they were the final stage of a possessed soldier
halcyon bear
I thought they were the final stage of a possessed soldier
Nope parasite infection
Probably a whole different kind of demon
gusty hearth
Can anyone help me with the online trophies?
still lily
2016
gusty hearth
2016
high perch
Idk, I struggle with those trophies too
elder meadow
Nope parasite infection
Parasite that latches onto a possessed soldier?
halcyon bear
Parasite that latches onto a possessed soldier?
I'm pretty sure in but it isn't specifically said
winter stream
I assumed they were like the Unwilling, what remains of an ancient conquered race long Possessed and warped by hell
slim pebble
I always thought they were Unwilling versions of Possessed Soldiers
halcyon bear
Nope
tepid jolt
The special parasite thing reminds me of the Last of Us clickers. Mind you, I’ve never actually played TLOU, I just know about that from pop culture osmosis
Separately, where are the hellrazer eyes?
slim pebble
People viewed them as modern Chaingun Bobs/Commandos but I saw them as their own unique enemy archetype.
tepid jolt
I wish the TAG chaingunners had built off the idea for its attack
weak blaze
Can anyone help me with the online trophies?
I can play with you if you want
snow heron
I assumed they were like the Unwilling, what remains of an ancient conquered rac...
Aren't Unwillings just people that died and got sent to Hell?
elder meadow
unpopular opinion: Argent Energy Tower is the best level in the game
spark sequoia
Popular opinion: doom guy is just jesus with a shotgun.
wise cape
reminds me of that one song called "angel with the shotgun"
elder meadow
unpopular opinion: doom
bold sun
Best level?
elder meadow
yes cheesus
cold root
unpopular opinion: Argent Energy Tower is the best level in the game
to me, it's Kadingir Sanctum
it has some of my favourite fights in the game
cold root
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832527939153297448/1099584431540412426/...
I don't think a fan wiki is always trustworthy
elder meadow
it has some of my favourite fights in the game
all the hell levels are epic
especially necropolis
elder meadow
yep, it has many references from old doom games
cold root
the first Hell Guard is the og Marauder
elder meadow
yes
elder meadow
yep, it has many references from old doom games
The wall-mounted dead baron
Mancubus Pedestals
And ofc the Icon of Sin
cold root
and then the Tyrant is essentially a mook version of the Cyberdemon
elder meadow
yes
cold root
except hell guards are actually fun
all 2016 bosses are fun
elder meadow
true
cold root
the Spiderdemon turned from a joke of a hitscanner that can be easily killed into an actual challenging boss with a variety of attacks
elder meadow
oh yea the mastermind has so many attacks
dash
laser scan
death beam
the exploding grenade thingies
The red bullets
cold root
one thing I noticed with id games is that most boss fights are in the last parts of the campaign
2016 has 13 levels and I think the first boss fight is like in the 9th
elder meadow
ye
cold root
I don't consider the Doom Hunter to be really a boss in its first appearance
elder meadow
The only real bosses in that game are gladiator khan maykr and sin
cold root
yeah
and the Gladiator appears in the 8th level
Doom 3 was also very lacking in terms of boss fights too, the only boss that isn't in the last half of the campaign is the Vagary
elder meadow
Doom 3 was also very lacking in terms of boss fights too, the only boss that isn...
I dont even remember what boss fights are in doom 3
i only remember the cyberdemon
cold root
Vagary, Guardian Of Hell, Sabaoth and Cyberdemon
cold root
the 3 Hell Hunters and Maledict
I swear, I never killed any fps game boss as quickly as Sabaoth
fire 5 rockets at him as he appears then use the soul cube on him, and he goes to hell in less than 10 seconds
elder meadow
lol
halcyon bear
Through the cube out the door and shoot rockets. That's the fastest method
atomic horizon
fire 5 rockets at him as he appears then use the soul cube on him, and he goes t...
”Excellent! Smash the heretic!”
ocean raven
does anyone know a server where i can get a 2016 lobby in multiplayer
elder meadow
unfortunately no
you gotta wait for players to join the lobby
there are a handful of people who play the game but very few are online at the same time
elder meadow
Doom has a pretty poor track record with bosses in general
But Doom 1 and Doom 2016’s Cyberdemon boss fights go hard
The cyberdemon works because it’s basically just “shoot it until you kill it” done in the best way possible
wraith tangle
doom1's e2m8 is cool(and a great way to practice 2 tap bfgs with cheats) but a terrible boss fight. Maybe back in the day when people were still adjusting to moving while firing, but not anymore. The cyber is a great monster, but plopping one down just isn't enough for a boss. 2016's works well though
elder meadow
doom1's e2m8 is cool(and a great way to practice 2 tap bfgs with cheats) but a t...
Not arguing it’s incredible but far from terrible either lmao
It’s the first boss that really punishes you for not strafing, and considering that your arsenal up to that point is pretty limited (no BFG) the player has to engage with the mechanics of the fight.
It’s simple but enjoyable. Vastly better than the spider demon boss fight in episode 3.
solar silo
Hey y'all! I'm new to this server. Just started playing Doom 2016 a week or two ago. I just wanted to share that I finally beat the Cyberdemon after multiple attempts. 😁😁
I would like to add that this game does great justice to the original. I love all the collectibles and classic maps. The reference to Doom 3 with the Turkey Arcade game was hilarious. And I loved Doom's version of Candy Crush.
I'm excited to fight the Spider looking demon brain (I don't remember it's name.)
halcyon bear
I'm excited to fight the Spider looking demon brain (I don't remember it's name....
Spider mastermind
river wing
Guys I'm gonna finish Doom:2016 in Nightmare mode
crisp grove
Good 
halcyon bear
Atta boy
elder meadow
beware of imps my man⚠️
dusk musk
Nightmare mode is whole lotta fun
void venture
beware of imps my man⚠️
Beware of holes young slayers
zealous spindle
So basically the deadliest things in this game are imps and parkour?
halcyon bear
Imps and jank
tepid jolt
I’m currently stuck at the big tram fight in Vega Complex and half the failed attempts are game crashes
atomic horizon
The Imp fireball in DOOM 2016 Nightmare probably deals the same damage amount as the classic Cyberdemon rocket.
tight crescent
I’m currently stuck at the big tram fight in Vega Complex and half the failed at...
Mission 11?
still lily
The Imp fireball in DOOM 2016 Nightmare probably deals the same damage amount as...
my god why is classic doom so RNG?
cybderdemon rocket (classic): 20-160 (direct hit)
imp fireball 2016: 90
sooo its about an average
so yeah pretty much
wraith tangle
remember rockets have additional splash damage. Usually about 126ish extra if a direct
wooden cargo
I would like to add that this game does great justice to the original. I love al...
That would be the spider mastermind but good luck!
solar silo
Thank you!
tepid jolt
Classic Doom cyberdemon rockets on direct hit are pretty lethal because of the high nonrandom splash damage
fickle radish
As you burn to death to the imp fireball for the 30th time
tepid jolt
Imps hit only a bit harder than other demons so IDK why they get hyped up so much. I find cyber mancubi and pinkies way more troublesome myself
fickle radish
For it's because they're a silent killer, often getting sniped without warning
tepid jolt
Pinkies for their armor and speed, cybers because their mess can still kill fast on nightmare and they don’t even have to hit you
solar silo
Pinkies and Hell Knights are my least favorites. Fucking annoying demons.
void venture
UN 2016 completed.
halcyon bear
Love to read that progress first thing in the morning. Well done
tepid jolt
How are you playing? Doom punishes a lot of modern shooter habits
Also what difficulty?
tepid jolt
The most important rule in Doom is to never stop moving. Bodyshots will be good enough 99% of the time.
Also your best defense is usually a strong offense, so don’t be afraid to push at the enemies and take some risk to draw blood
elder meadow
do them glory kills
tepid jolt
Also that
solar sky
F?
elder meadow
oh man true theyre the worst enemies
imps really like to snipe you
best thing is to move circles around the arena
tepid jolt
Imps, like most Doom demons, are really bad at leading shots so try to move as much as possible as you fight
elder meadow
at higher difficulties they can track where you're going and shoot
halcyon bear
Is this like remake of the 1993 Doom or a brand new game?
New game just called doom
solar sky
Ah
halcyon bear
It was launched as a soft reboot
solar sky
Would u say this has a long campaign
halcyon bear
About average fps length for first time players depending on collection and secrets I'd say 8 to 10 hours
solar sky
Not that long
halcyon bear
There were dlc planned but that was abandoned
tepid jolt
There is a level editor that enables campaign creation so I’m guessing there’s plenty of stuff there
solar sky
Niceee
solar sky
How hard is this game on Hurt me plenty
tepid jolt
So-so. I’d recommend it for new players
tepid jolt
Ultraviolence is a bit harder. Nightmare is honestly kind of ridiculous with death coming in 2 hits pretty often. Ultra Nightmare is that plus you lose your save file on death.
elder meadow
iirc nightmare mode was added as a joke in the og doom
tepid jolt
Yup
elder meadow
pretty much
a few levels are in heck
solar sky
hell?
elder meadow
yes
solar sky
Yess,cant wait to fight Satan
tepid jolt
Doom 1 nightmare was basically designed to troll people who felt UV wasn’t hard enough (vanilla Doom 1 is pretty easy, even on UV)
Enemies in classic Doom nightmare are more aggressive and respawn after 30 seconds
solar sky
Shame u cant be stealthy
elder meadow
I think it'd be much harder to play doom 1 on ultra nightmare
elder meadow
Shame u cant be stealthy
oh no no, doom doesn't teach you that
solar sky
Its gun blazin all the time
tepid jolt
I think Doom 1 UN would be humanly impossible
tepid jolt
Doom has always been very much about running and gunning, so modern Doom has zeroed in on making that fast aggressive combat as good as possible
snow heron
Shame u cant be stealthy
Wolfenstein is better for that. Doom shouldn’t be a stealth game ever
solar sky
Yeah
elder meadow
even doom 3 doesn't really rely on being stealthy
elder meadow
ye
elder meadow
I feel bad for our character
doomguy?
solar sky
Yeah
tepid jolt
You could theoretically make a stealth section in classic Doom. You really shouldn’t but you could
tepid jolt
I feel bad more for the demons. No one can help them
elder meadow
true lel
elder meadow
Honestly i want a doom game on earth
eternal
tepid jolt
Doom Eternal is largely on Earth
solar sky
No way
solar sky
Is there a meaning behind Eternal
tepid jolt
Your character has been fighting demons for thousands of years with no sign of stopping. His crusade is eternal
elder meadow
Is there a meaning behind Eternal
the Slayer's fight with hell for eternity
solar sky
Your character has been fighting demons for thousands of years with no sign of s...
How in the hell is he stilla alive
Is he even human lol
elder meadow
Is he even human lol
he is human but also uhhhh its complicated
tepid jolt
He doesn’t age anymore. He used to be human but only partly now because Eternal lore stuff
solar sky
O
elder meadow
guy doesn't even need food or water
tepid jolt
Main things are he doesn’t grow old, doesn’t get tired, and he gains strength from those who fall before him
solar sky
Game logic
tepid jolt
No the glory kill thing is actually part of the lore
elder meadow
something something feeds off of demon blood something
solar sky
New doom games seems to deviate from og gamds a lot
tepid jolt
Yeah
solar sky
Idk why
tepid jolt
I think it was taking the stuff people fondly remember about the old games and tripling down on it
Classic Doom makes you feel incredibly powerful, so they took that a few steps further
solar sky
Maybe they didnt wanna do it to easy
tepid jolt
Doom definitely tries to push players to master the mechanics. The furthest classic Doom goes with that in terms of official releases was the Plutonia Experiment in Final Doom, but many mods go kind of crazy with giving players massive armies to kill
solar sky
any tips to deal with that big core room
tepid jolt
What level?
solar sky
Its the beginning
tepid jolt
The first gore nest?
elder meadow
Its the beginning
there is a shed on the left side of the room take cover there and wait for imps to get to you and shoot
honestly it's the hardest encounter in the first level
solar sky
The first gore nest?
Yes
solar sky
honestly it's the hardest encounter in the first level
Cause theres so many of them and i alwqys die to some mf up at platform
elder meadow
yea
if you dont want to take cover just move around shooting them
and dont glory kill because you may get hit after the glory kill animation ends
tepid jolt
Glory kills are kinda risky in this Doom specifically
halcyon bear
Clips threw floor
Glory kill is fine if you know how to keep your eyes on the environment and timing. Still would avoid though in nightmare
elder meadow
Is he even human lol
Primevil
solar sky
I know most of you like this franchise cause of the gameplay but me personally,I play it for the demons and that whole aspect of Hell and Heaven
solid pasture
whatever makes you happy
elder meadow
rip and tear
solar sky
well i hope heaven exists lol
elder meadow
HELL no
solid pasture
I don't think that's a debate for this server.
solar sky
in the game lol
solid pasture
ehh....kind of? it's complicated. Eternal explains it.
elder meadow
well i hope heaven exists lol
It does but it’s not what you think
Doom’s universe isn’t really biblical
It’s like reverse Gnosticism with a good dose of Sci-Fi
solar sky
ah
elder meadow
Hell in these games is pretty neat though
Doom 64 and Doom 3 have my favorite canon depictions of it
solid pasture
Doom 3 has some of the best looking Hell levels I've ever seen. I just wish those sections weren't so short.
elder meadow
Yeah it looks incredible, and I love that the hell demons have different skins
Feel like 2016 made hell a little too alien. Like they’re going with the alien dimension angle instead of a spiritual realm of eternal torment. Although the bowls of the titan were pretty cool.
solid pasture
I liked 2016's Hell levels but they didn't look too much different from Mars
elder meadow
Agreed
There was some effort because there’s some organic masses and hellish structures but it didn’t do enough to set itself apart from Mars visually
Besides not having those UAC interiors
solid pasture
right
solar sky
guys im a bit stuck
solar sky
why does my game feel laggy
solid pasture
turn down your settings?
compact yoke
why does my game feel laggy
What are you playing on?
solar sky
What are you playing on?
CPU : Ryzen 5 5600G 4.2Ghz
GPU : RX 6500 XT 4GB
RAM : 16GB
maybe it just feels slow to me,like the mouse sens idk
solar sky
i got pinged
compact yoke
i got pinged
Sorry, Bot removed my message because it had a link
elder meadow
Still don’t get why this server is so stingy about links
compact yoke
It’s very frustrating but I understand the precaution.
elder meadow
Just implement a leveling system so people need to be here for a little while to get perms
solar sky
wait u cant get embeds at all?
halcyon bear
Doom 2016 blue skull key https://imgur.com/gallery/4vkMU1p
tepid jolt
Imagine if the cyberdemon returned in the last 2 missions as a normal enemy. Like just the first phase, probably with half the HP. That would be kind of awesome
I do get why they didn’t go that route though
elder meadow
Would’ve taken away from the bossfight imo
Having weaker baalgar demons would’ve been neat though
still lily
Doom 2016 blue skull key https://imgur.com/gallery/4vkMU1p
lmao the panning
halcyon bear
lmao the panning
Thanks I'm a film maker
dusk musk
Doom 2016 blue skull key https://imgur.com/gallery/4vkMU1p
I want one
halcyon bear
I want one
The dude who made the molds for this was Russian so his whole page was taken down on etsy unfortunately. I wanted red and yellow still
dusk musk
😭 NNOOOO
halcyon bear
Right!!!!
still lily
ill just 3d print the model itself
and paint it
really goes to show how cool bitmapping is for textures
fake depth
tepid jolt
I completely get why Doom 2016 doesn’t have bosses return as normal foes, but I am sad that they didn’t do include them in Snapmap either. Visceral appeal aside, there aren’t many big demon types in 2016 and nerfed versions of bosses could have helped a lot there
snow heron
Doom 2016 blue skull key https://imgur.com/gallery/4vkMU1p
Would be a sick ass night light
halcyon bear
Would be a sick ass night light
Flashes too if you want it too
elder meadow
I completely get why Doom 2016 doesn’t have bosses return as normal foes, but I ...
I don’t get why the cyber demon wasn’t added since there’s one in a secret level that’s already tweaked to have only its first stage
So it would definitely work fine
The spider mastermind boss isn’t really that complex either. Just remove a few attack patterns and it’ll be fine on any map with enough space
tepid jolt
That seems right
elder meadow
Idk about the hell guardians though
tepid jolt
Finally beat Vega Central Processing. I hate that final arena
elder meadow
bfg
tepid jolt
The BFG kept crashing the game in that arena
halcyon bear
How
tepid jolt
Sometimes when I do the BFG trick, the game just goes to an error screen and boots me to the PS4 home menu
I’m guessing it’s a platform specific bug
It’s just in that arena though
still lily
So it would definitely work fine
they designed it around modules. most of them being too tall for cybercuck so they scrapped it. They tried shrinking him down apprently but ultimately decided to scrap it. Huge misstep imo. But thats what modding is for.
same case for mastermind
too big
tepid jolt
That’s interesting.
solar sky
Idk y my game feels so slow
elder meadow
so i managed to get practice mode working offline with xp
elder meadow
oh damn how?
will be posting instructions in #d2016-modding
still lily
im assuming you could grind achivments that way yeah?
halcyon bear
It's to late for his soul
elder meadow
doom 2016 gon feel like dark souls
elder meadow
i only discovered the franchise in december so i am quite new
quick lichen
Doom 2016 blue skull key https://imgur.com/gallery/4vkMU1p
that is mighty impressive
molten rose
How do I get the 2 multiplayer trophies? They are my last ones.
halcyon bear
that is mighty impressive
Also a great lamp
void venture
How do I get the 2 multiplayer trophies? They are my last ones.
Find a party 
solar sky
how do i find more secrets lol
tepid jolt
You should be able to find most of the secrets by just poking around a lot.
Find a dead end? Check for secrets
Something look at all suspicious? Check for secrets
And so forth
halcyon bear
Be sure to use your map
atomic horizon
Would’ve taken away from the bossfight imo
I mean, the Barons of Hell in classic DOOM were introduced as bosses, as well as the Cyberdemon itself.
elder meadow
Find a party <:oldcaco:603638833031938058>
there should be an achievement just for that LMAO
"achievement unlocked: you found 1 player in a public lobby"
elder meadow
I mean, the Barons of Hell in classic DOOM were introduced as bosses, as well as...
I’d describe the barons as mini bosses really
The cyberdemon sure but I think having one badass fight culminating in the demons death is cooler than overusing that same enemy multiple times
halcyon bear
Cloning and genetic research is most likely a thing in this universe. So they could very likely clone and remake balgaars
The one you're facing in 2016 is ancient so huge.. augmented
A clone full version as a common enemy would be very neat
I mean that's the arachs in eternal
They are just genetic clones of the mastermind
Altered
fast jungle
untold stirrup
hello
solar sky
I got a chainsaw!!!
frosty halo
cool
real ravine
i really like it but man it gets hard at times
the game is hella hard yeah
but very very fun
pine fog
hey everyone I have been playing doom since I was a kid
tepid jolt
Almost done with my first Nightmare playthrough
I eventually relented on my “no optional Argent upgrades” but I have kept my other rules.
void venture
I'M ABOUT TO FIGHT THE SPIDERDEMON
Spider easy
I killed her before she create electrity totems with spikes
still lily
of course
solid game with a great level editor and decent multiplayer what more can ya ask for 6 bucks?
cold root
I just noticed that the Pinky in this game has some of the same sounds as the Zombie from Half-Life 2
elder meadow
I just noticed that the Pinky in this game has some of the same sounds as the Zo...
shoot maybe
elder meadow
solid game with a great level editor and decent multiplayer what more can ya ask...
is multiplayer alive
still lily
not thriving or really alive but its possible to still catch matches
on the weekend and stuff
its best to just ask some peeps to play with you. its casual fun
elder meadow
has epic multiplayer maps
cold root
how bad is VFR really?
elder meadow
all the settings in this game seem the same
fading maple
I’ve been playing Doom 2016 on Ultra violence and it’s been a relatively easy experience
I have died a few times but other than that I have been enjoying it
elder meadow
it has very fun progression
elder meadow
played it like i played eternal in the 1st couple arenas ant got hit like 3 times
transition from de to 2016 be like
cold root
lmao
imagine people trying to destroy the Mancubus arm cannons
or trying to make the Possessed Security's shield explode with the plasma gun
winter stream
Plasma Rifle is still effective for shields tho, the splash penetrates and damages the Possessed Security behind it
snow heron
Plasma Rifle is still effective for shields tho, the splash penetrates and damag...
Yeah but early game I found it easier to just chuck a frag or a explosive shot right next to them then use the Plasma Rifle
Or if I have the fuel, chainsaw
winter stream
Sure, all I'm saying is you wouldn't be punished from using plasma
atomic horizon
transition from de to 2016 be like
imagine even playing Eternal then going straight back to 3.
elder meadow
oh man
elder meadow
Plasma Rifle is still effective for shields tho, the splash penetrates and damag...
heat blast for that reason is actually a great mod
halcyon bear
imagine even playing Eternal then going straight back to 3.
If you have jank muscle memory issues then that would be funny to see
tender orchid
What's the most runes and weapons you've mastered in a single run without going back and redoing levels or doing any farming/glitches
elder meadow
If I had to guess
Savagery seek and destroy flight mobility
for the weapon mods ive mastered pretty much all except the pistol and precision bolt in a single run
i dont really use runes much now they kinda make it too easy
cloud sapphire
Hey there, Is there anyone who could/want help me boost online for the cyberdemon & robotic armor achievements?
untold stirrup
Nice
still lily
i dont really use runes much now they kinda make it too easy
i literally cannot go without In-flight and savagery tbh. they should almost be inherent.
glory kills get boring so speeding them up is essential and air mobility is like. a basic thing you should have tbh
still lily
yeah thats just straight up a lie. especially with the instakill death pits
it feels so much better.
stopping dead in your tracks by double jumping feels like shit
being dedicated a jump direction can fuck you. It's literally impossible to mid air dodge at that point
solar sky
This game is so addictive i love it
tepid jolt
I’m completely serious: I hate air mobility. It makes things easier but it also feels like you weight nothing which also makes movement feel slower despite not actually being slower
99% of the platforming is easy regardless if you’re being reasonably careful
still lily
yeah bad take.
just play without it if you want but it feels wrong to me
it should be defualt imo
taking up a whole rune slot just to control jump direction mid air is dumb
platforming sucks the faster i get it done the better
unless doom gets dying light movement platforming will always be a snooze fest
tepid jolt
I go a step further and don’t use runes anyway. Feels way too RPG of a mechanic to me
still lily
lmao
yeah i dont upgrade my guns either. im fact i dont even jump. Since doomguys armor is heavy he wouldn't be able to jump that high. and honestly i dont even shoot aswell. shooting perpetuates violence so i just try and be a pacifist
tepid jolt
It and weapon mastery make the game less interesting for me so I just don’t use them. Basically I hate RPG mechanics in action games in general. If I couldn’t just ignore those mechanics I wouldn’t play the game at all
One of the things I love about the original Doom is that progression is pretty much entirely geared around getting better as a player instead of upgrade BS
Weirdly Doom 2016 almost feels like it was designed to be played without said upgrade systems with the way fights are balanced
winter stream
Without upgrade systems, any game is stale and boring to me
halcyon bear
Ya it's just a staple at this point
tepid jolt
I get why it’s common but I consider it one of the worst trends in modern gaming
Not as bad as lootboxes and predatory monetization but very very frustrating nonetheless
halcyon bear
yeah i dont upgrade my guns either. im fact i dont even jump. Since doomguys ar...
True doom god
Upgrading adding things to your weapon is satisfying. And something to work towards. Which is why it's used so often. Love upgrading my tac scope as soon as I can
tepid jolt
My frustration basically comes from it obfuscating difficulty and time investment and how it exploits human psychology to get people to play games longer through skinner box design.
winter stream
I wouldn't call it exploitative to add features that extend the time a game stays entertaining.
tepid jolt
It’s not egregious in Doom, but it’s the thing that keeps people playing MMOs and the like long after it’s fun because they feel like they physically can’t stop. The way it’s used in Doom isn’t predatory but it can get predatory quickly
winter stream
It's not the upgrade systems that make MMOs that way. It's limited time content
the fear of missing out
on exclusive rewards
that's the real exploitative systems
tepid jolt
In Doom I just don’t like how it messes with difficulty and with replaying early levels.
There’s more than one thing going on in MMOs and such
winter stream
sure, but it's a huge one, at least for me
other things include clans where it creates social pressure to contribute and not abandon the group by no longer playing the game
basically, features that 99% of mobile games nowadays have in common
technically, obtaining new weapons is a form of upgrading
tepid jolt
I guess, but it’s more about getting new tools than changing the baseline. Also people do pistol start play in classic Doom for a reason
winter stream
tools that dramatically increases your damage output
tepid jolt
Yeah but they’re not strict upgrades from one another (except the pistol) they’re sidegrades that have different strengths and weaknesses.
winter stream
I'd argue it's more diagonal than sidegrades
tepid jolt
In classic Doom, you kind of need to use every weapon. The basic shotgun doesn’t hit as hard but it doesn’t gobble up shells like the SSG and that matters in classic Doom
winter stream
I'm not really talking about Classic Doom as I've barely played them
tepid jolt
I started with Doom 1 and basically I want modern Doom to retain as much of the early Doom feeling as it can
Doom 1 is still my favorite Doom
winter stream
I tried playing them but I found them too boring to play
halcyon bear
tepid jolt
That makes me very sad but I kind of get it I guess
still lily
I started with Doom 1 and basically I want modern Doom to retain as much of the ...
no thanks
random damage spread is not for me
and i like looking up
still lily
I tried playing them but I found them too boring to play
same
quake is actually good though
tepid jolt
Classic Doom does a lot with a little in terms of complexity. Doom 1 has 8 normal enemy types, no secondary firing, etc but it has a huge possibility space anyway. In a lot of ways more possibilities than modern Doom.
halcyon bear
Majority of people love classic doom so 2 people not liking it is fine. Some people like things some people don't. Tis life
still lily
i dont really care about the majority i just have my own opinions. classic jsut dont really hold up tbh. Modding is almost essential to get anything of it from our spoiled perspective of being in the future
tepid jolt
Hard disagree
halcyon bear
I'm also guessing these 2 mean base games and not wads and such
still lily
duh
even then the artstyle doesnt really appeal to me.
sprites just dont do it for me
halcyon bear
Ya if they had any idea about the wads out there... some need fucking super computers at this point. Real amazing stuff out there
halcyon bear
Nah just beautiful in general
still lily
the most impressive ones ive seen were doom kart and that sonic one
halcyon bear
winter stream
sonic robo blast
still lily
but 99% of wads, just like snapmap are just more of the same
halcyon bear
Love the colors in that map
still lily
https://imgur.com/a/V6xHoNj
doom but blue
halcyon bear
Amd the midi is just great
First time I tried to play lullaby the potato top actually froze lol
winter stream
https://imgur.com/a/V6xHoNj
still lily
ong
halcyon bear
Cringe
tepid jolt
Classic Doom for me is a lot like SNES Mario. It has some weird jank and you can see the technical limitations in a lot of places but the strong core mechanics, unique look, and just right amount of arcadeyness makes it work even now.
halcyon bear
Classic Doom for me is a lot like SNES Mario. It has some weird jank and you can...
Absolutely.
still lily
snes mario is actually fun tho at least when im high.
halcyon bear
Wow so cool
halcyon bear
I was going to see that but I heard mixed things
winter stream
Classic doom for me is like Pong. Revolutionary for its time, but I'd go so far to say that it's technologically impossible to make a good game by today's standards back then
still lily
its just mid. watch it if a younger sibling wants too or something but you absolutely can skip it
halcyon bear
I'll probably just wait until its on prime or some shit
still lily
Classic doom for me is like Pong. Revolutionary for its time, but I'd go so far ...
i agree
tepid jolt
I started playing Doom 1 in 2019 or so and it became one of my favorite games anyway.
still lily
In no way am i saying classic doom is bad. it just doesnt hold up. And doom fans just cant see that those are 2 different things. Everything is relative to when it came out. Since video games of all things are held back by technological advances.
tepid jolt
I’m also one of the people who hates most AAA games from the last 10 years though so I’m not exactly a typical consumer
still lily
minus the random damage spread that can go to hell
winter stream
DND fans when they make a video game
halcyon bear
In no way am i saying classic doom is bad. it just doesnt hold up. And doom fans...
It's a really bad opinion. There's a reason why the classic doom community is still thriving and the fact you have never played a wad in your life especially a modern one on a port like gz ect kind of makes your opinion invalid
still lily
dnd fans 😴
still lily
It's a really bad opinion. There's a reason why the classic doom community is st...
GZdoom isnt Classic doom tho
tepid jolt
I feel so old in this conversation even though I’m pretty sure I’m the youngest person here.
halcyon bear
GZdoom isnt Classic doom tho
How so?
still lily
What does wads even have to do with this anyway?
You just want my opinion invalid cause we dont agree but thats rather simple minded. We're talking about base game here.
tepid jolt
Wads don’t usually change mechanics, just levels. It’s a lot like ROMhacks for Super Mario World
halcyon bear
You're saying classic doom doesn't hold up even though it's constantly evolving and has been growing visually gameplay mods ect
still lily
Wads don’t usually change mechanics, just levels. It’s a lot like ROMhacks for S...
thats why most are lame imo
tepid jolt
Bad take
still lily
its just a different map.
halcyon bear
Wads don’t usually change mechanics, just levels. It’s a lot like ROMhacks for S...
There's some that do I think brutal doom is trash though
winter stream
You're saying classic doom doesn't hold up even though it's constantly evolving ...
if it held up, it wouldn't need to keep evolving
halcyon bear
if it held up, it wouldn't need to keep evolving
That makes no sense
solid pasture
if it held up, it wouldn't need to keep evolving
that is the single dumbest thing anybody has ever said
halcyon bear
People make wads and maps for fun. It's unique to try new mods but not necessarily needed.
tepid jolt
I honestly don’t even use gameplay mods. I think the vanilla stuff holds up more than well enough
still lily
People make wads and maps for fun. It's unique to try new mods but not necessari...
Ok so connect the dots.. I dislike classic doom. 99% of wads are just classsic doom but a different map. therefore i still dont like it. How hard is that to understand?
halcyon bear
I honestly don’t even use gameplay mods. I think the vanilla stuff holds up more...
You should try embers of armageddon though some day. Classic doom meets doom 2016. It's a lot of fun
halcyon bear
Ok so connect the dots.. I dislike classic doom. 99% of wads are just classsic d...
Oh I understand and it's okay not to like something.
tepid jolt
You don’t have to like it, but that doesn’t make it bad or even that it’s aged poorly. It just isn’t your thing
halcyon bear
Ya 2 people out of everyone else in the world are good odds haha
still lily
In my opinion it has aged poorly. And based off mechanics alone I wouldnt even like it if it was modern. Randomness like that is disgusting.
Imagine ending your run cuz the rocket did 160 instead of 20? Like broooo
tepid jolt
The randomness barely comes up though in practice
halcyon bear
Rng can be a bi tch that's true
tepid jolt
It’s dumb but it doesn’t hurt the game overall much
still lily
The randomness barely comes up though in practice
if you play on baby easy mode then probably
tepid jolt
I play on UV
halcyon bear
Noice
winter stream
That makes no sense
Then you don't understand the argument to begin with. The reason we are saying "base game" is because including stuff made nowadays that modernize classic doom doesn't count as what makes the classic game hold up. That's like saying the graphics of an old game holds up because someone made a mod that adds HD textures
halcyon bear
Thats not what a wad is or does
Teleshow made the point that despite new maps he just doesn't like the mechanics and that's fine
still lily
The wads that impress me are ones that actually shake up thr gameplay. Same towards snapmaps. I really am not a fan of snapmaps that just do the same thing ive been doing for 6 damn near 7 years now
halcyon bear
The wads that impress me are ones that actually shake up thr gameplay. Same towa...
You'd probably like embers of armageddon
I've got a video on it actually
tepid jolt
Damage values hit the middle the vast majority of the time. The rocket example is especially nonsensical as most of the damage comes from the explosion, which isn’t random. You weren’t surviving a direct hit regardless. The only RNG that regularly makes a difference is pain chance, which is a pretty clever way to make stun work that I actively prefer over what modern Doom does
still lily
rng sucks
halcyon bear
winter stream
Thats not what a wad is or does
well if you're just talking about new maps only, then idk how that would change a thing. More maps doesn't help a game hold up more.
still lily
https://youtu.be/fqHnXEZbnlo
yeah idk. i still cant get over the sprites. Like thatd be so hard to track what an enemey is doing like imagine trying to have a parry system but you only have like. 1 frame idk man. Just not my style. Exaclty why im here for 2016. I grew up with 2016 annnnd 2016 is just the best for me. I dont think i could go back.
halcyon bear
yeah idk. i still cant get over the sprites. Like thatd be so hard to track what...
Honestly thats fair. Some things just don't click for some people
tepid jolt
The fact people keep making new content for classic Doom on the scale they do indicates people still love the game for what it is
still lily
more like since it can run on a potato its easy to start with lol
halcyon bear
Bridge one of the admins here is one of these map makers. Absolute genius. Although his maps are fucking spicy haha
still lily
modding idtech 6 is much more complicated than a 20+ yo game lol
winter stream
yeah, it's as bizarre to me as how people can play the same campaign over and over
still lily
same reason why minecraft has a massive modding community. easy to start with and run
halcyon bear
Ya classic you just need to get doombuilder and there we go. But some are far far more talented then others and the stuff they create is wild
Skillsaw for example
still lily
except minecraft mods are usually fire. they love shaking up the gameplay
tepid jolt
Doom 1-2 are still the only titles where you get madness like Alien Vendetta or Sunlust. Both of those wads have maps where cacodemons literally blot out most of the skybox.
halcyon bear
Sunlust is great. Going through ancient aliens right now
Want to try it on uv plus co op
still lily
co-op makes anything fun
halcyon bear
My buddy might give it a go @wraith tangle soon
Anyways working on a tac scope montage video right now. It needs more love haha
Still one of my favorite weapons in any game ever
Headshots are so satisfying
halcyon bear
Absolutely agree there
The scope is very doable in close quarters too. I have a back to back 10 second hellknight kills like 4 of them
wraith tangle
chunky rifle
halcyon bear
Chonk
elder meadow
the weapon variety in this game is great
elder meadow
glory kills get boring so speeding them up is essential and air mobility is like...
i agree with savagery, but in place of in flight mobility you can have a better rune which is armored offensive
fast glory kill + armor refill
elder meadow
it kinda makes it feel like de
untold stirrup
i agree with savagery, but in place of in flight mobility you can have a better ...
my usual rune loadout is basically the same except with Ammo Boost instead of AO
when you're quickswitching like a madman you tend to run out of ammo pretty quickly
deft badger
anyone up for multiplayer on switch?
still lily
nothing its just a bad port
still lily
i mean. it kinda objectively is? 30 fps and missing snapmap.
ur missing 1/3 of the game
deft badger
but that 2/3 is really well ported
its sad tho that the multiplayer died when i wanna do the multiplayer
still lily
but that 2/3 is really well ported
again 30fps
just get a steam deck and get the whole game
missing 1/3 is not a good port
deft badger
;m;
so i wasted my money
time
sorry
i have a bad case of not likeing the buyers remorse feeling
deft badger
owning a switch in general tbh
SHUT!
UUUGH! IT SO DAMN HARD LIKING THE SWITCH WHEN IT GETS SLANDERED EVERY OTHER DAY!
LIKE, CAN I JUST ENJOY MY PORTABLE PREFERENCE?!
elder meadow
switch
deft badger
UUUUUUUGH!!!
deft badger
same
still lily
i wanna work on snapmap on the go
still lily
prodeus sucks
still lily
boomer shooter wannabe. it's just mid af. Snapmap is much cooler
deft badger
BACK
still lily
i havent seen anything impressive from prodeus
elder meadow
who is prodeus
deft badger
I AM NOT IN THE BEST FUCKING MOOD RN
still lily
meanwhile we're making space flight sims in snapmap
deft badger
who is prodeus
ITS LIKE THE BEST ARENA SHOOTER
still lily
who is prodeus
idk mid boomer shooter game with a level editor
elder meadow
oh
still lily
i played it for like 1 min on gamepass and just couldnt look at the low fps animations longer than a second
elder meadow
havent played any boomer shooter other than ultrakill
deft badger
i played it for like 1 min on gamepass and just couldnt look at the low fps anim...
BOO YOU DONT LIKE ASTECTIC CHOISES
elder meadow
yes its too fun
still lily
bro are you 12, chill tf out. It's a wannabe boomer shooter. they made it shitty on purpose. and i dont like it. The level editor is simplistic its basically just a map maker. No custom enemies or gameplay, kinda lame.
ultrakill is how you do wannabe boomer shooters right
deft badger
lame opinion + its supposed to look retro + blocked so my day doesnt get anymore worse + game journalist
elder meadow
lmao game journalist is an insult now
still lily
lol
elder meadow
ultrakill is how you do wannabe boomer shooters right
dusk too
still lily
ofc its supposed to look retro. Ultrakill is aswell but thats not the issue. Its just not an appealing artstyle
i havent tried dusk. i want too
elder meadow
i think its from the same dev of ultrakill
still lily
i think its the same. corporation kinda thing but different devs
elder meadow
yea
also dusk is more quake styled
still lily
i like quake
elder meadow
same
snow heron
ITS LIKE THE BEST ARENA SHOOTER
It’s good but it is in no way the best retro indie FPS
still lily
Kinda criminal 2016 or DE doesnt have rocket jumping. At least theres a cvar for it and you can make it in snapmap
snow heron
Kinda criminal 2016 or DE doesnt have rocket jumping. At least theres a cvar for...
Saw a mod that adds rocket jumping. Always fun to see movement like that in video games
still lily
i just love fun tech
deft badger
It’s good but it is in no way the best retro indie FPS
its one of them
still lily
as a game dev if you ever wanna see how to make your game better, add parries and rocket jumping.
still lily
produce fans when the wannabe doom wad isnt held to the same standard as actual high effort projects that stand on their own without nostalgia baiting. 😭
deft badger
produce fans when the wannabe doom wad isnt held to the same standard as actual ...
look at the steam description
if a game has shitty grafics as you put it
then i guess dusk, ultrakill, fashon poliece squad have shitty grapfics cause its low poly or pixeley
-m-
still lily
no it just doesn't have an appealing art style
i thought you blocked me lmao
I dont really care about graphics
it just has to look cool to me
and sprites just. never look good in 3d spaces
and low fps things give me a headache
low poly is cool just. fuck 2d sprites
deft badger
then i guess fuck mario 64
elder meadow
yea mario is bad
still lily
lol. If its tech imposed than that's different. But again, a game can LOOK bad and still be good. But produce just doenst really have anything to stand out even just looking at the gameplay
its nice it has a level editor. every game should tbh. It's just not as cool as snapmap imo.
still lily
you know it
solar sky
The game is now easy ngl
still lily
i still gotta push out my projects
solar sky
Once you learn the mechanics its EZzz
still lily
just been lazy as fuck
still lily
Once you learn the mechanics its EZzz
U playing on nightmare?
solar sky
No
still lily
im pretty damn good at games but nightmare isnt really that easy unless you go full cheese mode
solar sky
Hurt me Plenty
still lily
yeah thats pretty easy
elder meadow
Once you learn the mechanics its EZzz
once you learn the mechanics even nightmare is easy
solar sky
Perhaps
still lily
once you learn the mechanics even nightmare is easy
the 90 hp imp fireball: 
solar sky
Oh yeah
elder meadow
the 90 hp imp fireball: <:HappyGuy:733610864363700224>
except for this right here
it ends the game on un
you are not safe from imps on any level lmao
still lily
everytime i think of nightmare beind hard i just think of ultra nightmare
tepid jolt
Prodeus was a game I wanted to like but something about how framerate was handled (I think it’s different object types running different framerates) gave me a severe headache after a few minutes
still lily
cuz yeah its easy to beat the game if ur allowed a few deaths
still lily
Prodeus was a game I wanted to like but something about how framerate was handle...
sammee
yes there are mulitple frame rates of things. it was an eyesore
elder meadow
cuz yeah its easy to beat the game if ur allowed a few deaths
anyone can beat nightmare be it 0 deaths be it 124891024 deaths
un is the real shit
still lily
anyone can beat nightmare be it 0 deaths be it 124891024 deaths
un is the real s...
I only did UN once when i was like 17 grinded on xbox for a few days.
elder meadow
sheeesh on xbox
elder meadow
vega core legit hardest level (if youre not using ammo boost bfg cheese)
tepid jolt
I think the last 2 missions are about the same difficulty, which is to say fairly hard. I play kinda weird though so ymmv
elder meadow
5% bfg ammo drop rate more like 500%
elder meadow
I think the last 2 missions are about the same difficulty, which is to say fairl...
there are too many pickups in the last level tho
powerups* my bad
also a mega health right before last arena
tepid jolt
The last level just throws a lot of guys at you with a lot of places you can get jumped easily. I get hit by guys I didn’t see in time quite a bit
elder meadow
just repeatedly keep jumping on one of the jump pads and they'll have a hard time hitting you
elder meadow
the only thing that can you hit while mid air are imp fireballs
solar sky
I just got heavy assault rifle.
tepid jolt
Fun gun
elder meadow
I just got heavy assault rifle.
what level
solar sky
2nd
elder meadow
oh i forgot the plasma rifle is the secret not assault rifle
tepid jolt
Yup
elder meadow
Should I be careful when i use it
go mad on them
tepid jolt
Not especially.
elder meadow
i mean yea ammo is a thing
tepid jolt
If you pay attention to your resources you should be fine. You’re given more than enough ammo to succeed
elder meadow
the chainsaw is free ammo refill
tepid jolt
Especially when you account for the chainsaw giving you extra
Chainsaw isn’t free in this game
elder meadow
well yes but it makes it so that you dont need to run around looking for ammo
tepid jolt
It’s very convenient
I don’t primarily use it for ammo in 2016 tbh. Mostly for instakilling demons I don’t want to deal with
tepid jolt
Especially pinkies. They’re so fast and kind of hard to flank in this game
elder meadow
well we have the stun bomb
elder meadow
I tell you what heat blast takes care of all fodder on screen
good for foundry and AF
- the damage and falter to heavies
warped storm
Anyone here play on xbox?
still lily
based
deft badger
hey i wanna grab a group of switch players together that play this and do some multiplayer
cold root
when I ever go back to 2016 after playing Eternal, I would quick swap between weapons in it too
elder meadow
quick swapping is actually faster in 2016
elder meadow
the holo swap tech
elder meadow
dang
still lily
i remember there was some movement tech in MP with lateral thrusters
kinda wanna add that aswell
both are equipment tho
hm.
just trying to make my goofy pizza map a fast paced skill shooter lol
elder meadow
i remember there was some movement tech in MP with lateral thrusters
you mean like flight boots?
still lily
full of tech
still lily
you mean like flight boots?
not the double jump but the equipment boots
elder meadow
ohh
still lily
in MP only
elder meadow
ah sadge
elder meadow
would be cool
jagged cloak
Last time I logged on doom 16 online no one was there why is that
elder meadow
uh you see
not many people play anymore and you gotta wait like 15 minutes to get into a match
still lily
games old. and most people only cared about the singleplayer
People still play every now and then
jagged cloak
Im my option doom online is better then battle mode just saying
still lily
no idea why this server is so against supporting MP and Snapmap
still lily
Im my option doom online is better then battle mode just saying
absolutely. tbh not even a controversial take
elder meadow
Im my option doom online is better then battle mode just saying
my man i agree
elder meadow
no idea why this server is so against supporting MP and Snapmap
there is a separate server
DOOM SnapMap
jagged cloak
Then why don’t we all here log on it im sure we would all be filling up the servers mostly
still lily
there is a separate server
DOOM SnapMap
Yeah i know lol I run it. But thats not offically supported.
elder meadow
Then why don’t we all here log on it im sure we would all be filling up the ser...
yea we could do some customs would be fun
elder meadow
Yeah i know lol I run it. But thats not offically supported.
oh shi lol
jagged cloak
yea we could do some customs would be fun
Got to redownload it tho but yes 100%
still lily
Then why don’t we all here log on it im sure we would all be filling up the ser...
sure hmu ill see if i can get on
if ur on pc
elder meadow
I cant get on the game for a week but sure we'll play some rounds
jagged cloak
No Xbox and ps4-5
still lily
ah damn
elder meadow
does crossplay work?
still lily
no sadly
still lily
this game needed crossplay so bad
still lily
absolutely
jagged cloak
Yes it does 1 more updated 6.66.1 just for cross play
jagged cloak
Agreed
still lily
then literally best game
elder meadow
cant agree more
jagged cloak
Come on one more bug fix then we are good just need cross play as well
elder meadow
well i dont think id will go back to this game ever now...
still lily
mhm. its sad how corporations work. Whena projects off they just wholly abandon it.
sad to see. kinda why i like indie.
elder meadow
ye
jagged cloak
Also valves work conditions are bad really bad like they skip around on projects if the team don’t like you they will fire you no matter if your good at your job or not
elder meadow
thats rough
still lily
valve makes games?
jagged cloak
Ya
still lily
lol
elder meadow
valve makes games?
gmod
still lily
that was a joke. they dont really make games anymore
elder meadow
all source games basically
elder meadow
that was a joke. they dont really make games anymore
oh right
jagged cloak
Well actually half life 3 is in the making i think
still lily
😔
elder meadow
mehh im kinda done with half life
snow heron
nearly tho
Debatable. Prodeus is good I enjoyed it personally. But Dusk is miles ahead of it. Out of the big retro indie shooters I would rather play most of them over Prodeus in a heartbeat
fossil island
Circumventing the wordfilter will result in a warning.
still lily
may i ask why the word in question is banned? Seems kinda random
might aswell just ban all bad words at that point
proper ermine
Ehh I think it kinda makes sense since the word CAN be more "harsh" than "fuck" or "shit"
winter stream
It's far tamer than those
still lily
idk. ||expletive|| pleeease
was literally a meme
i wanna see the word filter list 🤔
elder meadow
i cant imagine why it's banned i wanna see the word filter list too
still lily
just seems rather tame ive never really seen anyone use || expletive|| like in a serious derogatory way
whatever
discord admins will be discord admins. it is what it is
not that big of a deal
fiery trail
Is there a way to complete the ”no rest for the living” trophy (5 snapmaps) without deleting and re installing my game? Its bugged out for me
halcyon bear
Circumventing the wordfilter will result in a warning.
Remember the time the word baron was banned hahaha
fiery trail
Is there a way to complete the ”no rest for the living” trophy (5 snapmaps) with...
Nevermind just got the platinum
still lily
Remember the time the word baron was banned hahaha
Unwilling banned for alluding to slavery
halcyon bear
Not a single baron emote either. But tons of this weird goat guy who isn't even here anymore 
elder meadow
plasma gun easy
best*
still lily
Not a single baron emote either. But tons of this weird goat guy who isn't even ...
the emojis perplex me for sure
ah yes
wall?
haha epic bacon!!! epic!!@
fickle radish
ITS LIKE THE BEST ARENA SHOOTER
I quite enjoy Prodeus, it's obvious that 2016 was a big inspiration on it.
Along with Amid Evil and Ion Fury I think it's up there of the new Retro Shooters.
Boltgun for me is the next really big release
still lily
no idea what either 3 of those last ones are
but im not a boomer shooter fan tbh
The Finals looks sick if we're talking fps games. i played the beta and its sweeet
fickle radish
Hmm, that looks like a Call of Duty style game, so not really my type
still lily
the destruction is unparalleled