doom-2016

[elder meadow]

nah sonny jim im a beginner and im playing ultra-violence on switch

also i wonder why people dont play the deathmatch on switch

[noble moat]

It’s 6 years old

Switch isn’t exactly known for fps multiplayer

AND neeeds Nintendo online to play

[elder meadow]

ah ok thanks

[halcyon bear]

What's that have to do with anything

Ah talking to Bob

[elder meadow]

which is why no one plays it

or not many people at least

[smoky finch]

Hey can anyone help me get mutiplayer achievements no one is showing up in public matches so if someone does it they should be in my game or is it because im level 1 im not doing beginners only

[noble moat]

Would probably help to drop what platform you are on

[smoky finch]

Im on pc

[prisma leaf]

I managed to work around it folks! With two A.I Proxies and Team filters. But I couldn't figure out a way to optimize it.

A.I Proxy 1 is the automated counter for the pre-made group encounters enemy spawn. It carries the Team 2 filter so it is pretty straightfoward here: Whenever an enemy from the Team 2 spawns it adds 1 to the integer variable, that's then defines the counter with the total amount of enemies of Team 2.
Same logic to create the variable for the kills count. So, Team 2 are all the group encounters, while all the field/manual enemies are assigned to Team 3. This prevents the field monsters numbers to add up to the counter on map start.
And basically all the group encounters shares the same logic node that when a demon spawns they are assigned to Team 2 and linked to the Team Proxy. And that's it.
However, if you do that, you can't count mobs spawns with either the Survival, Miniboss or Wave events anymore, as there is no way to link those events or its mob spawns to a specific team or Team Filter. (Well, at least not in a easy way that I know how to do it anyway. Maybe it is possible through more variables and Cached Objects or whatever).

A.I Proxy 2 is filtered to Team 3 and is just there to automate Team 3 kills count to the general counter, as it shares the same node as Proxy 1.

The workound: All field/individual enemies added to the map will be carrying the Team 3 filter. And so everytime one spawns they add +1 to the Total Enemies variable . That's right... Manually adding +1 to every single enemy you added by linking they spawn signal to the already present sum node.
I know it is sounds extensively but I couldn't find any other way of doing it. Keep this in mind if you pretend using this for counting numbers of handcrafted mobs encounters with a tracker as they go spawning on a stage.

[smoky finch]

Can anyone help me with multiplayer achievements im pc and no one is showing

Still no one

[pearl path]

id be down. also nice anniversary

[abstract isle]

That would be awesome

[dull dust]

Guys , does someone know, about the ps4 trophies, i have a trophy that says to play 5 snapmap published games

Do i have to complete them, or just join and leave if i don't want to finish them

"play 5 published snapmaps"

[fossil island]

Join and play for 1-2 minutes

[dull dust]

Do i have to finish the maps??

[fossil island]

nope, as long as you play on 5 different maps its fine

[dull dust]

I tried to achieve this yesterday, but i joined, and immediately i left all of them

And i didn't take the trophy

[limber pumice]

Just finished the game.
Holy sh!t that was fun.
9/10 Probably best game I've ever played

Guess I'll have to buy Eternal now

[elder meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-code-bro-love-friends-gif-9906684

[limber pumice]

😎

[halcyon bear]

[azure pawn]

what was your favorite part?

[winter stream]

Instead of messing around with teams, you could just subtract the variable for enemies spawned by the number of manually placed demons, then when any of those manually placed demons spawn (On Spawned from the demon object directly), add 1 to the variable. Can just use a single AI proxy with On Spawned then.

When you say you need "handcrafted" encounters, what does that mean? Because the Single Encounter Spawner allows you to place demons manually too, not just the Demon objects

[subtle relic]

Went back to doom and been playing multiplayer against boys cus no lobbies... why do people not play this it's fun asf

[elder meadow]

¿where can i obtain help about a problem in the game?

[digital lichen]

played both 2016 and eternal now, it's surprising how little continuity there is between the two

[winter stream]

Check out the Ultimate Prop Library for all the models available in the game files. ID is A8PARLP6

snapmap

[winter stream]

#videos for a preview of the prop map

[dull dust]

Congrats ,insane game btw!!

[prisma leaf]

I did tried this solution at one time yes. However, I've figured out that if the number of manually placed demons was too big I would get negative value in the counter. And since the limit for visible and active enemies is 12 only it wouldn't work for what I'm trying to achieve here.

[winter stream]

Is it a consistent limit for when the manually placed demons stop counting towards AI proxy On Spawned?

[prisma leaf]

i'm not sure if i get what you mean.
But the way this counter works is like that: whenever a enemy spaws in the map it add +1 to the total enemy count. And the issue I had with this is how I explained in my original post: I wished that the enemy counter would keep increasing as enemies appearing procedurally. But like I said, manually placed enemies are count on map start, even if they are set as not visible. It means that if I had 50 manual placed enemies, when the map start the counter for total enemies is already at 50, regardless if those demons got a signal to become visible or not.

And by handcrafted encounters I mean events running with manually placed enemies. I know about the single encounter spawner and the variations, but there are some limitations on the ins and outs you can signal through them.

So my map is a mix of both encounter spawners and manually placed enemies. Basically, the ecounter spawners are used to make generic waves of enemies and the manual enemies are used as boss fights and to trigger other gimmicks of the map.

and the counter is there just so that the players can know if they cleared the wave or how many enemies left to kill. It actually helps if an area is too big and enemies can spawn all over it.

[winter stream]

If 50 manually placed demons DOES increment it 50 times, then why would subtracting by 50 at the beginning of the map result in a negative value?

[winter stream]

The only limitations that single encounters have over the manually placed ones, as far as I'm aware, is spawn priority, spawn behavior, inability to show/hide them at will, and health threshold. The latter of which can be worked around by using a modified AI proxy that can have health thresholds added to it.

[prisma leaf]

you also can't set them to be killable by glory executions only

[winter stream]

Ah right

[lethal trellis]

man coming back to 2016 after playing eternal a lot feels so bad, tryna get all the collectibles on a new playthrough but having to restart from a checkpoint after any enviromental death feels so annoying

[untold stirrup]

you'll get used to it eventually

[prisma leaf]

oh right. There is variable comparator in the counter that when the number of kills equals the number of total enemies the counter resets to 0. I did this so that when I'm done killing the enemies of one area and move to another the counter will start over, gathering that new zone numbers. The tests I did made through subtracting the manually placed enemies from the counter, caused an issue with this in some moments where if the number went to a negative value first and was incremented later, it would have to get to 0 first, before continue to proceed with positive values. So there were some instances where it always stayed 1 value above or bellow the total enemies count, and therefore they would never equal to reset anymore. I believe this was due to the 12 spawn limit and enemies waiting in the spawn queue

[winter stream]

Published maps are cross-platform

[prisma leaf]

now that you mentioned it have to redo some tests though. I've noticed that sometimes events I have in place doesn't correctly compute if I have many signals send at once if the entry or out delays is 0.0. I acutally had to add delays so it wouldn't happen

maybe due to frame drops or something

[winter stream]

Snap Logic follows a strict order of execution when there's no delays

[prisma leaf]

possible one of the reasons then

[winter stream]

Logic chain mode lets you observe the order in which branched logic is executed off of a node. Holding the option key during logic chain mode allows you to view and modify this order

[winter stream]

Some reasons the counter might mess up is if a demon despawns due to it being from a conductor, the demon used is a sentinel or horde Imp (these for some reason are bugged and despawn when out of range like a conductor demon).

[prisma leaf]

Ehhhh, and enemies from team 3 attack fight enemies of team 2...

not a big deal if they aren't on field at the same time, but this some sad limitation

[prisma leaf]

there is also that too

[winter stream]

I'm assuming you're using an AI iterator then to continuously update the enemy count value whenever these discrepancies occur?

[prisma leaf]

Should I? I tried using it before when I was figuring out the counter, however, whenever a new enemy spawned the total enemy count was raising big numbers. The logic was all messed up

i'm pretty new to the editor. I basically did the tutorials and puzzles and then move to learn as I went experimenting with stuff

[winter stream]

The AI iterator probably counts the hidden enemies as well

[prisma leaf]

I see what you mean

[winter stream]

Not the ones on the Spawn queue, those will not be considered spawned by anything, fortunately. Just those demons from the demons category

I suppose if you just tracked the number of remaining manually placed enemies separately by linking all of them to the same On Killed, you could have an accurate value to subtract with whenever the AI Iterator counts the number of demons

[prisma leaf]

u mean like making a new separate variable that will keep track of the manual demons count and then subtract this value from the total enemies count all at once?

[winter stream]

Yeah

And my mistake, not On Killed, but On Spawned from the manual demon directly when it comes to whether it is no longer used for subtraction

The On Spawned from manual demon will actually count only when it is shown for the first time

[lethal trellis]

why are the possessed demons so damn loud

[winter stream]

No clue lmao

Maybe cause they are so slow and stupid you might not notice them in a bigger room 💀

[lethal trellis]

fair enough but when there's a horde of them it's deafening

damn it i missed a jump and now i have to reload the checkpoint 😢

[prisma leaf]

I think it bring us back to the very first solution you gave, but different method. And this gives me more control over it.
I guess it is my fault for trying to make this as I go adding more manual demons, instead of just get the final count of manual demons when the map is done. I kinda haven't decided yet how many there will be.
But the ideia is make like 15 initial custom encounters with a "boss" at the end of each one and then the match will changs to the endless survival mode already present in default spawner for it.

[prisma leaf]

anyways, I have this other problem here where I'm using this iterator with a sequencer to give all players in the game a new weapon each time one of the bosses is killed. It works fine, but i'm running into this odd problem sometimes. That when the boss enemy is killed, instead of the weapon being given directly to the player inventory, it actually falls to the ground near the boss location, and then must be picked up by the player first (and it happens often when said boss is killed with a glory kill it seems). #screenshots message

I really have no idea why this happens. I though this object was used exactly to give things directly to inventory instead as a dropped resource. And that general game setting that makes you drop the equipped weapon when you get a new one is set to false also.
Do you have an ideia of what might be going on?

[winter stream]

Never heard of such a thing happening

Could I see a clip of that during gameplay?

[prisma leaf]

sure, I will record it

[winter stream]

Oh

I think I might know why

[main jewel]

is doom 2016 pvp still alive and doing well?

i liked it but had to quit due to life

[winter stream]

Has it ever happened when not in a glory kill animation?

[prisma leaf]

no

I will let double check

[winter stream]

Then I'm pretty sure the issue is that during animations such as glory killing, ledge grabs, and using interactibles, weapons received get rejected, and in your case, the weapon gets dropped. Giving loadouts during these animations are even more catastrophic, causing you to have invisible weapons until you can glory kill or use an interactible.

[prisma leaf]

i see

maybe I can set a trigger tied to a timer a split second after the kill then or something, instead of being tied to the enemy kill itself

[winter stream]

You could significantly reduce the risk of that issue occurring if you input delay the giving of weapons upon killing, but it wouldn't prevent other players having that happening if they happened to be in such an animation after you kill him.

[prisma leaf]

just like u said #videos message

[winter stream]

Perhaps as a failsafe you could use a weapon filter to check if player actually received the weapon and if not, give the weapon again

[prisma leaf]

but if the players are in mid of one of those animation during the delay they won't get it right?

[winter stream]

Correct

[prisma leaf]

I suppose so. Even though is unlikely that there gonna be other enemies around during the boss fight, but climbing and other animations can still cause the issue

[winter stream]

Yeah, it's just if it's absolutely necessary for you that it's 100% reliable

@prisma leaf BTW would you be interested in joining a discord server dedicated to SnapMap? I'd DM you the invite but it seems you have to add me as friend for me to do so, and I can't post server invites here

[prisma leaf]

sure

[elder meadow]

Someone still playing DOOM 2016 online? I need help for all online achievements on Steam version but I cant find a single multiplayer game...

[halcyon bear]

It's hard to come by on every platform

[winter stream]

You can

Yeah their selection areas don't sync with the model. The delete nodes that are hooked up to them can be used as a guide for selecting them

Double selecting an object will also select everything connected to it

Or you can see where the connecting line ends to see where the selection area is

Basically, I have to swap the model of an existing prop to make these, and the original selection area of it is unchanged when I change the model

In this case, it was the barrel 01 prop

Also, the map with NPC echoes (along with a ton of other things) you can find in the map with ID SULUNCTG

They still have the holographic effect in editor but not when you actually play the map

[winter stream]

There's instructions on how to use copy and paste in the prop map, where the player spawns

Np

[cerulean chasm]

god i hate kadinger sanctum

stupid summoners

they keep spawning the stupid big ones (i forgot what they are called)

i got rushed by 7 of them at the same time

[trim plover]

Luckily, also super easy to delete.

[halcyon bear]

Big means big target / hitbox

[untold stirrup]

target them first

iirc the hell knights they spawn are stronger than normal?

stun bomb them and finish off with quickswaps or just ssg gauss cannon spam

[versed geyser]

stun bomb is so broken and abusable in 2016

[cerulean chasm]

i dont have a stunbomb
what is ssg gauss cannon spam (i know what gauss cannon is)

[untold stirrup]

very much so
the reason why I don't use it

I prefer heat blast instead

[untold stirrup]

what mod did you choose for the plasma rifle?
SSG gauss cannon spam is just alternating between the two weapons to reduce cooldown

[cerulean chasm]

what mission is stunbomb unlocked in

[versed geyser]

stun bomb and double is my main combo

[cerulean chasm]

plasma rifle i didn't get any yet. gauss cannon i chose siege

[untold stirrup]

it's a mod, you unlock it anywhere you see a mod bot

[versed geyser]

you can find it in the first level i think

[untold stirrup]

you didn't go looking for secrets?

[cerulean chasm]

mod for what weapon

[untold stirrup]

second I think actually

[versed geyser]

its a secrete tho

[cerulean chasm]

i haven't beaten the game yet. trying to beat it first then going back for more (unless i get stuck and then go look)

[untold stirrup]

I said above it's for plasma rifle

[cerulean chasm]

ok. ill go find it since it sounds really good

[untold stirrup]

secrets also give weapons points to upgrade your mods, you should do it

[cerulean chasm]

alright

[versed geyser]

good luck

[cerulean chasm]

ty

[untold stirrup]

you could also use lock-on burst for rocket launcher, but lock-on is honestly pretty bad

compared to remote detonation

[cerulean chasm]

ok

usually for summoners i just chainsaw them to get rid of them fast because otherwise i lose track of them and then i get shredded by hell knights
is that a good strategy for now or is there a faster better way to get rid of them

[untold stirrup]

chainsaw is a viable option but there's better ways to take care of them

the methods I said above are quite good

you don't have stun bomb, so just spam the ssg and gauss cannon

swap between the two

[cerulean chasm]

ok. will try today. ty for the information

[untold stirrup]

once you get better you can start doing more advanced quickswaps

yw :)

[cerulean chasm]

whats the best way to deal with the shield guys (possesed security i think is what they are called). they always shred me with their shotguns. also thanks for the stunbomb and ssg gauss spam tricks. really helped

[shut brook]

I usually just aim a grenade behind them to get rid of them

[cerulean chasm]

thats actually good idea idk how i didnt think of that

[shut brook]

otherwise I usually just circle them until they get stuck on something

[cerulean chasm]

ty

[untold stirrup]

you can also stunbomb the possessed security

i think it gets rid of their shields, but if they don't you can still just go behind them and shoot them

[cerulean chasm]

ok

[untold stirrup]

explosive shot also works great

if I were to recommend another mod for a must have, definitely remote detonation

when upgraded fully, just 1 rocket can kill a hell knight

compared to like

6 for lock-on

[cerulean chasm]

which upgrade is better for remote deto (i can only afford 1 right now)

jagged shrapnel or improved warhead

[noble moat]

Shrapnel

[snow heron]

SnapMap can make only very very primitive cutscenes, Something like the ship sequence from Doom 3 can’t be done. There is modded SnapMap but idk if even that could do why you want

[untold stirrup]

Definitely shrapnel

Shrapnel will cause demons to take bleeding damage, i.e demons continue to take damage after the rocket has detonated in their face

The bleeding effect is also really strong

[cerulean chasm]

ok. fighting the cyberdemon rn so i gotta focus on that. i got shrapnel and oh my god thanks to your advice (including the ssg gauss trick) i can now not get shredded

[untold stirrup]

I'm 100% confident that even with just shrapnel it still takes less rockets to kill demons that it takes with lock-on burst

[untold stirrup]

No problem :)

Quickswapping is quite fun to do and boosts your DPS

[winter stream]

I'd look into learning custom geo then

[winter stream]

With snaphak you can disable player controls, hud and hands and then script a mover to move the player as a camera

People have made some decent assets just from putting a bunch of textured blocks and shapes together, even without modded snapmap. #screenshots

Props and volumes are pretty cheap

You can edit your messages

[smoky finch]

Hey anyone on pc want to do multiplayer the only 3 people on are doing clan war and that is my least favorite thing

I dont like it at all

[timber mortar]

i would but my doom is acting up

[smoky finch]

Ok

Playing on Europe severs rn

Insted of north america

[uncut ferry]

There’s a vr version of 2016 right?

Or was it doom 3

[cerulean chasm]

i think it was 3 or 64

[uncut ferry]

Frick

[halcyon bear]

Doom 3 has a vr. 2016 doesn't have a vr but there is a vfr game where you play as a robot

[timber mortar]

isnt doom vfr just doom 2016 in vr but u play as a diff main character

[snow heron]

More or less

[uncut ferry]

Does vfr require a different purchase than 2016?

[halcyon bear]

Different story different person none of the gameplay loop

Same aesthetic and place though

[snow heron]

If your asking if there to separate games then yes

VFR is not a DLC for 2016

[uncut ferry]

Sadness

[craggy schooner]

What are good settings for constant fps cap (200fps) and NO VSYNC

[elder meadow]

Anyone know if the 2016 soundtrack has the songs in the order they appear in the game itself?

[void venture]

I just kill them 1st.

[elder meadow]

you guys remember the terminator 2 secret when you die in the lava

[winter stream]

👍

[untold stirrup]

👍

[mint hollow]

👍

[elder meadow]

Is it safe in here?

[versed geyser]

no

[elder meadow]

At least it’s quiet

[atomic horizon]

It’s on Eternal as well.

[jolly topaz]

Anyone down to do snapmaps?

[wanton rapids]

I'm currently queued up for team play, anyone wanna join?

I only just got into Doom recently and have been really enjoying the multiplayer, and even though the servers were pretty active yesterday, I can't get into a match today lol

[iron dagger]

Idk why but I really like the praetor suit. I might just have a stupid bias to Doom '16 but I just really like it for some reason, more than any of the other Doom skins

[celest flame]

I'm not sure of this is the right place to ask this but I was wondering if i should get doom 2016 since I absolutely loved eternal and wanted to try something else out

[iron dagger]

Doom 2016 is very good and very fun, but it is definitely a different experience to Doom Eternal:
Doom 2016 has a lot of close quarters and indoor areas, and while you do unlock a double jump at some point moving around really fast isn't really a big thing in Doom 2016.
Also the weapons are a little more imbalanced in Doom 2016.
However there some cool details like environmentally contextual glory kills, secret ||Doom maps you can unlock||and a few things that Eternal doesn't have.
I'd say it's worth getting Doom 2016 is well worth it, but don't expect an experience that's the same as Eternal.

[celest flame]

Thanks for the response! I am definitely still interested and nothing really turns me away so I'll try it out later!

[iron dagger]

😁 👍

[celest flame]

👍

[prisma forge]

people can like or dislike eternal,
but so far I have almost never met anyone who dislikes 2016.
That game's a masterpiece

[celest flame]

great to hear when going to try a new game

[halcyon bear]

They pop up here time to time. It's usually people who's first doom game ever was eternal

[elder meadow]

Doom 2016 essentially made me a Doom fan

[atomic horizon]

People say that Eternal is slower than 2016 but honestly to me it’s vice versa.

Especially on how Eternal has movement via Meathook and dashing. I still like 2016.

The former is as fast as classic Doom imo. Again, no hate on 2016, and I’m not saying that 2016 is Doom 3 levels of slow.

[swift totem]

Once you get double jump and air control 2016 feels just as fast as Eternal does minus the dash

[celest flame]

I appreciate the help!

[left wing]

air control is easy to master, by the way. you can upgrade it to Air Control II in the same level

[celest flame]

so instead of a rune it's an up upgrade

neat

[left wing]

It is a rune, but you can upgrade the runes

[snow heron]

Having no double jump right off the bat in 2016 always fucks with me. Takes me a bit to get back used to the 2016 flow

[magic flax]

Anyone know why im having a crash problem with the game? it worked for like 3 days then im getting this error i have no idea what to do

[snow heron]

My settings once got changed randomly. Perhaps something got changed? If that’s not the case you maybe need to update your graphics cards drivers (assuming your on PC). Also try validating the games files (again assuming your on PC sorry if your not.)

[magic flax]

I already valitaded the game files and i updated my drivers

[prisma forge]

thats what makes the hellknights more fun

and threatning

[magic flax]

ok i tried uninstalling and installing

validating game files, updating my drivers

wtf is the issue???

[halcyon bear]

The most fun thing about hellknights is shredding them

[snow heron]

It is more fun to fight a Hellknight when I can’t easily jump over him yeah

[left wing]

What I liked in this game is just using the remote detonate on Hellknights to kill them off mid-lunge to fling them across the arena

[elder meadow]

The main reason I liked 2016 better is because the difficulty spike was more just the newer stronger demons. But it didn’t have all the stupid shit like buffs.

[left wing]

eh, the "new" demons didn't really have a strong presence. Summoner was just a weak archvile

[wanton rapids]

I started playing recently as my first doom game and I'd say it's pretty fucking awesome so far

[celest flame]

im liking it so far as well

[wanton rapids]

A friend told me that eternal improved upon it in every single way and that really makes me excited bc this is already great

Plus I actually really like the multiplayer

[celest flame]

yea doom eternal is also really good

as i was told for 2016 that the games are different experiences but still good nonetheless

[left wing]

Oh yeah, very different

[halcyon bear]

I can jump back between the 2 very easily. Play very similar to me but it depends on an individuals muscle memory abilities

[clear frigate]

Господа. Нужна помощь по сетевым достижениям в стим. Кто сможет помочь?

[wraith tangle]

in 2016 I have to actually dodge. With DE, I can kiiinda just ignore enemies' attacks at least in singleplayer

[elder meadow]

i didnt know that

[atomic horizon]

Try dying to the lava.

[pulsar pebble]

[broken warren]

[elder meadow]

finished eternal and also in 2016 I have problems in the platform, at the silver tower I will have fallen ten times ...

parkour in FPS should be minimal so as not to break the gameplay

Word

[wheat trellis]

Does anyone still play on switch

[halcyon bear]

Multiplayer is basically dead

[wheat trellis]

Damn

Been trying to find a lobby all day

It wasn’t hard to 2 years ago

It got harder last year

Now lobbies are scarce

[prisma forge]

thats like my fav bit from 2016. perfect music, perfect enemies

[charred minnow]

Yeah climbing the tower was a really fun experience the first time

[west herald]

So I have a mission challenge that says find two collectibles but I already got them and when I go to their spot they aren’t there what do I do?

[west herald]

Nvm apparently I can reset the mission

[iron dagger]

I have it on switch but I haven't played multiplayer for a long time.
You need to have NSO to play it don't you?

[snow heron]

Parkour in FPS is fine. It’s not that big a deal.

[wheat trellis]

Ye

[iron dagger]

😞

[wheat trellis]

My reaction too 🙁

[snow heron]

Nintendo Switch Online sucks so bad. Smash online or Mario Maker 2 online have been some of the laggiest gaming sessions I’ve ever played

[iron dagger]

yeah £20 a year for subpar online sucks

[noble moat]

The funny part was when I played. Doom 2016 had smoother switch servers than nintendos own games

[blazing plume]

Any tips for doom 2016 ultra nightmare

[prisma forge]

pray to god that the imps don't channel their inner s1mple

[halcyon bear]

Start a nightmare campaign also. Practice the arena on nightmare. When you have it down switch to the un file

[blazing plume]

@halcyon bear what's the un file

And the arena?

[drowsy horizon]

Ultra nightmare file

[drowsy horizon]

If you’re having a lot of trouble getting passed the levels, practice completing them on Nightmare. If you die once, I’d recommend starting that level over until you complete it to your satisfaction; ultra nightmare will not show you the same mercy Nightmare does

[blazing plume]

In ultra nightmare they doo more damage is that it

[blazing plume]

So yeah ima go practice nightmare

[drowsy horizon]

I think they do more damage than Nightmare, but I can’t tell.

[drowsy horizon]

What I’m doing is practice nightmare on the first level. Once I’m satisfied, I start up the UN file and finish the first level. Then practice lv 2 N, lv 2 UN, etc

[blazing plume]

What lvl you on now?

[drowsy horizon]

Lv 3. I’ve memorized the first 2 completely

lots of deaths

[blazing plume]

Dang I cant even pass the tutorial of nightmare

[drowsy horizon]

You skip the tutorial in UN, but that doesn’t make it easier

[blazing plume]

Ii

I keep geting blown up any tips for that

[drowsy horizon]

Don’t stop for glory kills in an arena fight. Not worth it.
Always keep moving in a circle-like fashion.
Use explosive barrels to your advantage and caution

[blazing plume]

Ok

[drowsy horizon]

Don’t worry about ammo loss, chainsaw will help you with that by targeting smaller demons

Here’s a list of gas can enemies

[blazing plume]

Yeah I already know how much gas is needed to kill each

[drowsy horizon]

Good

[blazing plume]

I got passed first gore nest

Now moving onto main game

@drowsy horizon why does it feel easier after nightmare tutorial

What should my first praetor suit upgrade be lazy

[drowsy horizon]

I’d save it for equipment upgrade

[blazing plume]

Alr

Also is old doom lvl area worth going to for the health and armour

[drowsy horizon]

It’s risky, but just entering the secret gets you a weapon point. I personally try to complete all the challenges & secrets for all the weapon points I can get

[blazing plume]

Alr

Also first upgrade bit I should get burst fire or explosion

[drowsy horizon]

Explosion. Much more useful than burst.

Get the instant reload on it too

[blazing plume]

Ok

@Lazy#4598 I beat first lvl

@drowsy horizon now what do I do

[drowsy horizon]

Start UN and beat the first level

[blazing plume]

Ok

@drowsy horizon after I beat first lvl does it save

[drowsy horizon]

First, what did you do once you beat the level

[blazing plume]

I haven't beat it yet just asking first

To make sure I dont do anything wrong

[drowsy horizon]

You can only save your progress after beating a level. The moment you continue to the next level, you have to complete that level. If you quit anytime after you continue to the next level, start over

[blazing plume]

So I should quit to menu right after beating it?

[drowsy horizon]

Yes

[blazing plume]

Ok

I died right at end lol

[halcyon bear]

It's the exact same as UN but un is perma death

[blazing plume]

A demon kicked a explosive barrel at my face and shot it

[blazing plume]

@drowsy horizon I beat un

[drowsy horizon]

You did not beat the whole of ultra nightmare

[blazing plume]

I beat the spider mastermind yes

[drowsy horizon]

No. No, you were literally asking tips on UN hours ago, how did you beat it

I need a screenshot

[blazing plume]

I just played it normally

Also it was 3h ago

You do realize no game has taken me longer then 1 day to beat

[drowsy horizon]

No, I didn’t

[blazing plume]

I'm still In search of a hard game

[drowsy horizon]

You went from “I can’t beat the tutorial on nightmare” to “I beat UN” in 4 hours
I don’t want to believe

Congrats, but fuck

[blazing plume]

Is doom eternal harder

I'm geting that in 4 days

[drowsy horizon]

Yes, people say Eternal is harder. Though I’m starting to think it won’t be that much different to you in about 4 hours of playing it

[blazing plume]

Ok i will update you when i play it

[drowsy horizon]

I’m questioning my self esteem if I want it

[blazing plume]

Lol

[drowsy horizon]

I’ll congrats you in advance

[blazing plume]

Well lazy gl with un

Also when you get super shotgun keep switching to the blue cannon I keep forgetting the name to and back when fighting the tougher enimes

[drowsy horizon]

I feel like squidward teaching SpongeBob how to Art and he’s just naturally better

[blazing plume]

Lol

[drowsy horizon]

Mf, you joined the server today
Fuck

[blazing plume]

Lol

@drowsy horizon any tips for glitches

[drowsy horizon]

I don’t have tips for glitches, sorry. And I haven’t played Eternal

In case you thought I could help with that

[blazing plume]

Wait does jump glitch work in doom 2016

[drowsy horizon]

No idea

[blazing plume]

Lazy you wana know something I started playing games when I was 4 still the games only took me like 3 days to beat

[drowsy horizon]

So you’re just uber naturally talented

[cinder arrow]

i dont have the static rifle but im level 16?

in multiplayer

[noble moat]

Might need to level up one more time

From what I can recall some unlocks take another level up to kick in

[halcyon bear]

Might need to post a screen shot of that un in 4 hours file otherwise I'm going to just assume you're lying. No offense

[untold stirrup]

absolutely not, get environmental upgrades first ALWAYS

do not underestimate damage from barrels and weapon damage

barrels will hit you with their blast radius a mile away

[untold stirrup]

I highly doubt that

show us a screenshot of your save file

you went from not being able to finish the tutorial on Nightmare to beating Ultra Nightmare in just 3 hours

which Ultra Nightmare only has 1 life

so it's even more punishing than Nightmare

also if you're even attempting UN you really should've spent enough time with the game to know the names of the weapons

[noble moat]

Ah this must be Lids

The smell of brand new Cap

[untold stirrup]

yep

you don't go from noob to beating the hardest difficulty in 3 hours

that's pure bullshit

[halcyon bear]

Yeah I don't usually doubt un completion I've seen people work through it and over come it. But this claim is very fishy and I'd love to be proved wrong.

[blazing plume]

Ok sorry was playing fort you want screenshot leme get on

@halcyon bear @untold stirrup @noble moat I send in SMS yes

Dms

Oh shit I deleted the save so I could stream it

[noble moat]

Uh huh

[blazing plume]

I stream doom on twitch that's why I came here to ask for tips

So I could do it on un

I promise

@noble moat

[blazing plume]

I dont pay attention to gun names

I just play

Ima stream it tmrw after I'm done school hopefully I can get it done again and show you the file

[tardy stone]

Okay bois

Whats a good way to fix the achievement for beating the Hell Guards not popping

[noble moat]

Try doing it again until it does it probably the only thing i can think of

If very desperate maybe also try a new save on a different difficulty?

[tardy stone]

Ya I redid it about 2 more times and I was unable to pop it

I'll just redo everything on too young to die to burn through the levels

[halcyon bear]

Sounds like a plan

[ebon karma]

Doom 2016 is better than Doom Eternal.

[blazing plume]

Facts

[halcyon bear]

https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1652631884

@untold stirrup doesn't look like a completed un run to me lol

[untold stirrup]

You know someone hasn't played Nightmare or UN enough when they constantly glory kill

Doing that is a big no no

[halcyon bear]

Yeah dudes definitely been caught red handed lying. Not really sure why you'd come here and think you'd get away with that shit

Looks like his first run wasn't even uv it was hurt me plenty

[blazing plume]

That was yesterday befor I asked for help

I said I would stream today didnt i

@halcyon bear @untold stirrup

Maybe check your eyesight

[halcyon bear]

You're a liar and full of it. Stop embarrassing yourself

Doesn't matter if you somehow do it today which I doubt. You straight up lied and said you did yesterday and you're so that you have your streams linked in your bio.

Coming in here saying this game easy I been playing games since I was 4 blah blah. Gtfo with that shit

[untold stirrup]

Imagine trying to lie about game achievements 💀

It does nothing for you

[vague thunder]

Hey does anyone have a glitch where you can't get one of the runes?

[crimson wharf]

Never had that

[vague thunder]

I went to one of them and it showed that it was completed even though I never did it

It was the one where you got to kill the specters

[crimson wharf]

Weird

[untold stirrup]

Also

It says 20 hours ago

Idk where you are but it's EST for me

It's around 8 AM where I'm at

20 hours ago was roughly... 12 PM

So you tried playing UN for 6 hours

First for 3 hours

Then asking for tips

And then the following 3 hours you somehow beat it

I hardly think anyone would attempt doing UN for nearly 6 hours

And 2016 is a long game

[noble moat]

Don’t forget practiced speedrunning time is 2 hours

3 hours on a first attempt for almost speed running time?

[untold stirrup]

Sus af

[wraith tangle]

nah I beat the uhh spooder thing uhhh the boss the thing the lady turned into in the hell level umm I shot the double barrel and the blue uhhh beam. I did that in my blind run when I played through on my roomate's save on his xbox while he went to the bathroom. I played back up to where he was when I took over so he didn't even notice that's why there's no video

[untold stirrup]

Like that time someone claimed to have speedran Doom 2 in 17 minutes

[blazing plume]

I said playing games since I was 4

[untold stirrup]

Ok and does that change a thing

I have too

[wraith tangle]

we got ourselves a former child over here

[untold stirrup]

Add on the gameplay which looks like someone who only dipped their toes into Nightmare or UN territory

In 3 hours, you managed to completely reverse that and beat the game in near speedrunning time

[wraith tangle]

oh he has a video? can you link it

nvm I see it

[halcyon bear]

Posted it just above bro

[untold stirrup]

Here it is

[blazing plume]

I dont have a vid yet

That was me before asking for help

[untold stirrup]

Okay, and after you asked for help, you beat the game in 3 hours

Without hiccupa

[wraith tangle]

the classic trying to melee imps as they climb away: a safe and reliable strat for a 3 h speedrun mmhm

[untold stirrup]

This is getting even sussier

[wraith tangle]

Excited to see a video of the completed run

[halcyon bear]

https://imgur.com/a/WzJUS0C

[untold stirrup]

I remember jumping from UV to Nightmare

[blazing plume]

O dont do that anymore

[untold stirrup]

Completely game changing experience

It got rid of all the bad habits I had

[blazing plume]

I gtg

[wraith tangle]

got to go record the run.

[halcyon bear]

Hugo Martin his uncle will be watching

[untold stirrup]

okay wait

at first he asks if the only difference between UN and Nightmare is if "they did more damage"

did he not notice that it's also permadeath

2 hours in, struggling with UAC Labs

asks if he should get explosive shot or charged burst
if you've played long enough to attempt Nightmare or UN, you should know already

[cold root]

replaying the campaign with all weapon mods and runes unlocked, upgrades maxed out and rich get richer equipped is the definition of unstoppable massacre

[untold stirrup]

add equipment power and ammo boost for cataclysm

[cold root]

you can just kill everything easily with the super shotgun and especially the gauss cannon

[untold stirrup]

but why when you can get unlimited BFG ammo and spam the BFG

[cold root]

isn’t the bfg unaffected from the rich get richer rune?

[untold stirrup]

that's where Ammo Boost comes in

[chrome girder]

lol your here too lol whats good

[untold stirrup]

have you explored the other runes?

Ammo Boost will cause demons to drop BFG ammo

any demon

doesn't even have to be a glory kill

[noble moat]

It’s a low chance. But if you bfg an entire room. There is bound to be 1-2 bfg ammo around

[untold stirrup]

more than enough tbh

[noble moat]

Ye

[untold stirrup]

I've had arenas that have dropped around 4 BFG ammo

unfortunately I don't use the BFG lol

[noble moat]

Same

Hate modern bfg

It’s “too good”

[untold stirrup]

the longer it stays in the air, the stronger it becomes

[noble moat]

I wanted a super weapon not an instawin weapon

[untold stirrup]

at least Doom Eternal BFG is slightly nerfed, you can't kill super heavies with it

[chrome girder]

i hate the ammo amount in the modern dooms

[untold stirrup]

compared to 2016 BFG which can kill 2 barons at once

[noble moat]

That’s why I prefer the Unmaykr in eternal. That feels more like how a super weapon should be

[wraith tangle]

it's infinite lol.

[noble moat]

Very strong but not overwhelmingly powerful

[untold stirrup]

is it not enough or something?

[wraith tangle]

idk, unmaykr is so awkward with the burst fire

[untold stirrup]

2016 already gives you more than enough ammo

Eternal has a reload button for your guns called "chainsaw"

[wraith tangle]

Classic bfg is so great because it's very powerful, but not an instawin, and how weird it is

[untold stirrup]

common COD technique: reload your guns

except it's cooler because at the same time you get to saw a demon in half while reloading

[chrome girder]

yeah thats lame i rather have overkill amount of ammo like in classic dooms

[noble moat]

Except as explained it wasn’t even an overkill amount

And how is infinite ammo not overkill amount?

[untold stirrup]

tell that to things like Sunlust, where you'll never have enough ammo

[cold root]

armored offensive is really good, especially if you are using rich get richer

[wraith tangle]

Yeah I don't really get the ammo complaints when doom2016 gives you several megatons of ammo(and you still have ammo runes and chainsaw) and then eternal gives you a new saw charge every 20 s. Even if you only use two guns, that's more than enough(except spamming lock on is too fast)

[noble moat]

For a future entry I would prefer to see shadow warriors 3s way of getting ammo

[cold root]

I frequently had a big amount of armor while using it

[chrome girder]

2016 gives good enough eternal is the lame one

[untold stirrup]

if you like cheese, equipment power is better

[noble moat]

Equipment power + siphon grenades

[wraith tangle]

if anything, new doom gives too much ammo and by trying ammo to kills in a broad way, doesn't let map makers restrict what weapons you use. a classic doom map can make you use rockets when you'd rather use plasma, but modern doom let's the player always use whatever weapon is easiest at that time

[chrome girder]

no doom 1 gives too much ammo i never run out of anything 💀

[noble moat]

Which is fine ish but I want to see better balancing in the future

[untold stirrup]

yeeee

[noble moat]

Instead of what is clearly the best 3 weapons

[untold stirrup]

better than glory killing a demon

except that's too cheese for me too lol

[noble moat]

And all 3 weapons function the same

[wraith tangle]

try custom content when you get a chance

[noble moat]

Rpg, ssg, ballista or gauss

Simple point and click single shot weapons

With all 3 working the same for every demon. And with how high the dps is there is no reason to use another weapon

[cold root]

I really like using savagery, faster glory kills is better to me

[noble moat]

Hell they had to invent spirits just to counter one. And force the use of plasma rifle

Except spirited enemies still die to lock on Bursts

[untold stirrup]

Savagery is def part of whatever rune setup I make

while glory killing on Nightmare isn't the best idea, using Savagery does negate it a little bit

[noble moat]

Savagery + blood fueled

Infinite speeeed

[untold stirrup]

true

[cold root]

savagery, armored offensive and rich get richer is the rune setup I use

[untold stirrup]

my setup consists of Savagery, Seek and Destroy, and Ammo Boost

I swap so much that 2016's ridiculous ammo amount will actually run out

so I frequently use the chainsaw

[noble moat]

Savagery blood fueled air mobility

[cold root]

rich get richer honestly feels like an infinite ammo cheat that is made as a collectible

[noble moat]

If used with gauss dashing you can literally sling shot around the map and enemies

[cold root]

no wonder there’s no any rune like it in Eternal

[untold stirrup]

it would defeat the purpose of lowering the ammo count

I don't like using RGR because it feels too chese, but people should use what they like to use

and I mean, sometimes it's fun messing around with whatever quickswap combos I can make and use in upcoming arenas while not worrying about decreasing my ammo

[wraith tangle]

one of the worst decisions they made lol. why are spirited enemies having a particular weakness to the weapon that's already the most OP. Why I don't use lock on, op as h*ck. As an added challenge, you can play without killing the spirit ghosts

[untold stirrup]

everyone loves lock-on because it's op, similar to Siege Mode in 2016 lol

especially since they buffed Lock-On in Eternal

a bit disappointed that they nerfed Remote Detonation though

[wraith tangle]

a weapon that instakills almost anything without aiming or switching weapons and does extra damage(relatively) to the strongest enemies in the game. goofy

[halcyon bear]

It needed a tiny nerf but not that much

[prisma forge]

meathook is even more broken than lock on

there is no punishment for using it, very little cooldown, most melee enemies just stand there when you hook into the air, and it makes most arenas easy. jump pads + meathooks are broken

I think it would make it very funny if melee enemies had a 50% chance of going hiding behind nearest wall or tunnel as soon as doomguy flies in the air

[wanton rapids]

is it just me or do some of the encounters in the late game go on for way too long

[halcyon bear]

Kill them faster

[prisma forge]

have u ever played tag bruh

[exotic orchid]

why does it take soo much time to find the exit to maps (im not a pro, im a new player thats why im asking this)

[snow heron]

Just follow the waypoint

[wanton rapids]

It ain't the kill time, just the sheer amount of waves that I'm referring to

I get through each wave just fine, just takes a hot minute for them all to go through

It isn't like a huge problem or anything, it's just very mildly annoying

[halcyon bear]

I always preferred more to kill but to each their own

[wraith tangle]

this is true but my argument is....that meathook is cool lamo

[wanton rapids]

I like more to kill as well, I just also like moving to new environments to keep the fight going lol

It isn't so much the enemies themselves that get irritating as much as the inability to move forward, if that makes sense. I'll never get tired of the carnage this game throws at me, my one track mind just wants me to keep going

[halcyon bear]

That's fair

[elder meadow]

just keep looking around they will become finder to spot the more you play the game

[untold stirrup]

sooooo...

where's your UN video?

your latest stream is DOOM on UV

[halcyon bear]

Hahahahahaha actually?

[untold stirrup]

yep

[halcyon bear]

Yeah man. Don't come in this server with bullshit when we got doom vets here. We ll tear you a new butthole

[untold stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854794877594501143/1042519961073102918/Screen_Shot_2022-11-16_at_2.22.02_PM.png

[halcyon bear]

" games to easy.. I need a real challenge... I hope eternal is harder" that always activates my bullshit detector

[untold stirrup]

whenever I hear "this game's too easy" it always gives me off vibes

[halcyon bear]

Worst thing is he tricked @drowsy horizon with the bs

Then tried to give him advice on the game

[untold stirrup]

and then we proceed to ask them if they've tried UN, and it's usually "yeah game's still too easy"

jeezus

[elder meadow]

😆

[drowsy horizon]

Look at me, wanting to believe in someone. Then I get used for unearned praise

I even asked for a screenshot but got distracted

[halcyon bear]

Let us take a look at the claim in the future before the praise

[untold stirrup]

really, if you're so good at that game and you've played since you were 4 and finished UN in 3 hours on your first few attempts, you wouldn't need to play the game on UV

[halcyon bear]

If you're going to lie don't have your stream linked in your bio. That's a special kind of stupid

[untold stirrup]

Seriously, once you play Nightmare UV will feel weird to you

[halcyon bear]

Night and day

[untold stirrup]

I once went back to my previous UV save file on a earlier mission and went "I'm fucked" when a group of imps surrounded me but I was dumbstruck at how long it took to even damage me to critical health values

they kept slashing me for what felt like 3 or 4 seconds

[halcyon bear]

You don't even remotely play the same. It's actually pretty insane

[untold stirrup]

which definitely would've fucked me if it was Nightmare difficulty

[drowsy horizon]

It’s funny how different it is, UV and N

[halcyon bear]

Even to start nightmare you should know your combos weapon names and uses enemy movement patterns and all the arenas. If you're calling a weapon blue laser thing that's a bad sign

[untold stirrup]

mhm

if you're gonna attempt UN, you better have tons of practice in Nightmare

and by that time, you should know the names of every weapon and weapon mod and what they do

[halcyon bear]

Most importantly when you do UN you're doing it for yourself to prove to you you've mastered the game. If you're doing for any other reason you're not going to get far

[drowsy horizon]

Theres no steam achievement for beating UN, right

Just the first level

[untold stirrup]

yep

which is kinda strange

[wraith tangle]

only wolf2 has a deathless mode achievement between new order, old blood, new colossus. not unheard of for these games

[rain halo]

doom 2016 nightmare difficulty is wack.

[halcyon bear]

Skill issue

[noble moat]

No it’s definitely whack

[halcyon bear]

You're whack

[elder meadow]

i like how he's plauing it on ultra violence instead of playing it

[noble moat]

This is true

[halcyon bear]

Poor man ran away from the server never to look back

[untold stirrup]

gahdayum lmfaoooo

he actualy fucking left

[north sigil]

doom 2016 mancubus looks silly

[elder meadow]

nah the cacodemon is more silly

[north sigil]

le manc

[elder meadow]

le caco

[north sigil]

[elder meadow]

Lol that guy left?

[trail gulch]

Don’t you diss my man like that

[elder meadow]

yeah, he got caught lying, probably hasn't done anything more difficult than hurt me plenty

That’s hilarious

[silver cloud]

anyone play 2016 multiplayer often? i've been playing the last week and love to connect with some other online players

[rain halo]

Finally someone gets it

[noble moat]

It wasn’t balanced properly at all

Health and armor pick ups give nothing

Yet demons do absurd amounts of damage

Imps get aim bot and their small fire ball does 35 damage

[rain halo]

nah man the difficulty is straight up dog bullocks

[noble moat]

Yet glory kills are only giving like 5-10hp back

[rain halo]

fr the last thing you always see before your demise on Nightmare is a projectile coming at you whether its from a possessed soldier or imp. and then the stupid death animation of doomguy getting electrified or burned play's

[halcyon bear]

Yeah that's a ball buster.

[noble moat]

If I were to fix 2016

I would not reduce the hp or armor pick ups

But instead just double the enemies

Or just add some more in general

[halcyon bear]

More enemies is always a good thing just a manc in Mars intro would be wild haha

[noble moat]

Oh 100%

Imagine the food. 2016 campaign

But you get every weapon 1-2 levels earlier

More heavies

Etc

[prisma forge]

if I were to fix 2016 id add a couple of new enemy types to the later half of the game, and shorten the loading screen time till its equal to eternal

in everything else that games a chef's kiss emote

[halcyon bear]

I saw a few neat modded demons. Recently a caco type that makes an area of thr floor toxic with a projectile. Really want to try that one when it's done

[prisma forge]

cybercaco sounds dope

[rain halo]

if doom 2016 is a big mac. doom eternal is a quarter bounder

[ashen patrol]

💀

[winged ferry]

tomorrow doom 2016 turns 6 years 6 months and 6 days old

[tribal cloud]

You know what that means?

[winged ferry]

I think we should try break the steam player count record like they did with half life 1

would be a good excuse to revive the multiplayer

[tribal cloud]

Yes

[halcyon bear]

Played it all day today. Tmw will be the same

[torpid smelt]

🎩

[shut marsh]

I agree. But I doubt anyone will do it especially since it was wasn't made a big deal like a month ago

[upbeat charm]

Doom 2016 anyone?

[atomic horizon]

#FightLikeHell

would be a suitable hashtag for such event

[potent totem]

I really hate looking for the secrets on this game, they are in the most unthinkable places :/

[indigo forge]

Doom moment

[vernal inlet]

crazy

[steep brook]

hello

[elder meadow]

If you play on switch then I'm happy to play multiplayer with you if you want

[midnight mural]

hey

[rain halo]

yeah i just search it up. im not taking the risk of spending hours finding one collectable in the game

[potent totem]

They're just unfinfable normally

[prisma forge]

thats the whole point of 'secret'

[turbid peak]

what's better eternal or 2016?

[halcyon bear]

Both

[untold stirrup]

They're different experiences

And thus they shouldn't be compared

But they are both good

[snow heron]

2016 has better story
Eternal has better gameplay
There still both incredible games though

[vestal bobcat]

Rip and tear should have been in eternal

Such a vibe

[halcyon bear]

Stab and stab

[atomic horizon]

Super Gore Nest sounds like it’s a direct continuation to Rip and Tear.

[tight jewel]

I punch

[still lily]

overall? 2016. Snapmap is too cool. removing it was such a mistake.

[halcyon bear]

Hopefully map creation makes some sort of come back. It's kind of in dooms DNA

[winter stream]

Well, we kinda are trying to do that with existing snapmap in the form of expanding what snapmap is capable of in many ways

Which can now make stuff like this: #videos message

[little crane]

anyone wanna play deatchmatch?

[indigo forge]

does anyone know how to get past the entry locked door in the res ops level/enviroment

[elder meadow]

Any1 know what's the finał Boss?

[noble moat]

Spider mastermind

[elder meadow]

thanks

[steep brook]

Alright I've decided to make 2016's paetor suit out of metal

[indigo forge]

pls help

[halcyon bear]

Epic idea

[lethal shuttle]

I just started the game, Is it possible to display kbm controls and not controller?

nvm

[viscid mountain]

Just got the game today! (DOOM 2016)

[snow heron]

Do you have enough RAM for the game? Maybe your drivers need an update.

The only things I can think of would be a setting somehow got changed (like the renderer switching from OpenGL to Vulkan or something). Ik for me VSync is what was fucking me over for a while. That or maybe there’s a command line you can enter for the games launch? Idk what command that would be though I suggest posting this on the community page for DOOM 2016 on Steam as well

[halcyon bear]

Lol

[random basin]

doesnt anyone else wish that the classic doom secret passage in resource operations shouldve been longer

or atleast have somewhat more of a purpose

its such a cool idea

[indigo forge]

How do you play demon destruction

[indigo forge]

Someone pls tell me soon

Cuz I don’t wanna continue the campaign until I play some demon destruction

It’s my first time playing doom 2016 sense it came out, and even then I didn’t play that much of it and I was like 7 or 8 in 2016

[winter stream]

You try to get 3 or more of the same icons in a row or column by choosing which icons to switch places with each other

Basically candy crush

[indigo forge]

Ohhhh

Thank you so much good sir

For taking the time to tell me although I could’ve in hindsight googled it

But the doom community is epic also

[winter stream]

that's basically what I did. I haven't played a doom campaign in ages lmao

[halcyon bear]

Hate that game honestly

[winter stream]

most free mobile games are trash

not exactly a controversial take I know

[winter stream]

yeah but it's also a cesspool of false advertising and stolen assets

[elder meadow]

What was that game that had the really hot model in all the ads

[winter stream]

mafia city best ads

[elder meadow]

Game of War! That was it

All the ads were of her basically nude

[winter stream]

not even talking about asset flips

and so many of them are the same game but with different aesthetics. it feels like 90% of the games are more like 5 different ones

[halcyon bear]

Yikes

[elder meadow]

I just don’t take that sort of gaming seriously. Maybe that’s a jerk move, I dunno.

yeah same

I can’t take anything that’s relegated to a phone seriously

[winter stream]

One game I'd recommend on mobile is Infinitode 2 if you like tower defense

[charred minnow]

the best tower defense game is still Bloons TD6, though it's not free sadly

[winter stream]

yeah, I have that on steam

[winter stream]

I do like the idea of enemies relying more on having larger swarms rather than being spongier.

[halcyon bear]

Probably just you. 2016 invented it eternal perfected it which is why it's smoother. However it's very viable and important on higher level runs. You probably just need to get used to the change.

Also important to remember 2016 didn't really intend on players to fast swap combo. It was more of a thing players discovered and then was made into a actual intended mechanic in eternal

[snow heron]

Weapon swapping and combos work fine on console imo

[polar mulch]

is the switch port of doom 2016 good

[noble moat]

Very

It however does not have snap map

Also levels take around 40 seconds to load

[wicked swan]

i just got the game and it stays on black screen my drivers are up to date and i verified the game multiple times does anyone know a solution?

[elder meadow]

no sorry I don't

[wicked swan]

figured it out i needed a redistributable

[indigo forge]

When do you get to see ur secrets and stuff in doom 2016? Is it after the game and you access a slayer base at the end instead of at the beginning like in doom eternal?

Also how do you select certain grenades and whatnot

[worthy narwhal]

when you finish the level

you get a like a thing that shows what secrets you got, what challanges you completed etc

[indigo forge]

Ok

So you can’t view the collectibles?

[worthy narwhal]

you can

ofc you can, its in your save if i remember

like click on your save and you can find collectibles or something

[indigo forge]

Hmm ok

[worthy narwhal]

i shoudl know, i beat it twice and uv maxxed it

i have literally all the collectibles

[void venture]

Does anyone know if there is a randomizer for doom 2016? I can't find anything like it

[indigo forge]

Aw hell naw I dreamt about doom 2016 💀

And I was lucid dreaming and was facing a cyber mancubus and tried to use a guass cannon but for some reason there was a fucking flintlock pirate type pistol replacing it so sense I was lucid dreaming I tried to switch it to if I was actually playing it and I got the mancubus AND THEN IT SWITCHED BACK TO A FLINTLOCK 😭😭

[halcyon bear]

Don't do drugs kids

[indigo forge]

Fr

[elder meadow]

I’ve dreamt about doom several times lately. Probably just a result of marathoning it so hard.

[indigo forge]

Same

[white lodge]

is there anyway to do custom controller layout?

[noble moat]

Not for doom 2016

[white lodge]

damn

its gonna be hard swapping betwen that and eternal

[noble moat]

Your only bet are the few pre sets and they are ehhh

I think i stuck with Knuckles?

I think it’s called

[white lodge]

dam

[halcyon bear]

Tactical worked best for me. I have wheel binded to back trigger

[coral ferry]

does anyone have some tips on beating the cyberdemon?

[halcyon bear]

Rocket / bolt combo is one of my favorites for that fight

[coral ferry]

I've been trying it by going plasma when he does the wall attack, minigun when he is running around, and missiles when im out of ammo on both of those

then super shotgun, then pistol until he drops ammo

[halcyon bear]

Plasma is definitely not a good pick. You want a 2 string combo with good dps and still allows you to move especially for the wall stage

Rocket and bolt is good for that

[coral ferry]

i meant uh

the plasma assault rifle forgot the name of it

[halcyon bear]

Plasma is only good for heat blast or stun or just doing a glory finish

Rocket and bolt is the best option for you

[surreal grotto]

tf Moira doin in there

[cursive hound]

can quick switching be done in doom 2016?

[untold stirrup]

Yep

[cursive hound]

Alr thanks!!

oh wow thats pretty cool 😂 , shame he didnt like eternal

ahh ok I guess thats fair

[halcyon bear]

We invented it in 2016 summer child

[halcyon bear]

Absolutely. One of the best fps games ever made

[snow heron]

My recommendation cannot be stated enough this game is a masterpiece

[nimble briar]

Fuck yea

[cursive hound]

Yeah my favourite game along with Terraria and Doom Eternal

[gusty sonnet]

yo can you teach me how to play terraria im quite new

@cursive hound

[cursive hound]

At the start of a world you wanna just do the basic stuff like exploring, building a house, building houses for npcs (look up requirements for npc house), look for heart shaped crystals in caves as they give you more health. After you’ve done all the basic stuff you wanna get ready to fight the eye of Cthulhu or King Slime, you can build an arena by placing rows of platforms about 6 blocks apart but it depends on preference and wether you have double jump.

Once you get to hardmode you are probably gonna wanna choose a class - Melee, Range, Mage or Summoner I would suggest looking up a class guide on whichever one you go for

Those are the basics essentially if you want help with something specific just look it up or ask me, I’ve guided a few people through Terraria 😂

[gusty sonnet]

wow

alright

thanks

[tight owl]

Imma get 2016!!!

[fallen scarab]

6 years?

and another 2 sixes baby, because im back 😎

666

favorite number.

👉🤯

MY EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED, SLAYER

Let me help you to see.

Indeed

The Dark Lord being a tanky marauder 🤓

Ancient Gods 2 DLC.

surely

The one who knocks?

Oh lord

I mean, oh dark lord

Breaking in

Holy sheesh.

If I may.

Mother may I.

Oh obviously. Icon of Sin thyself.

[snow heron]

If we got a new Quake none of Dooms demons would or should be there. Quake has its own roster of monsters

naw

[fallen scarab]

Indeed

[snow heron]

Naw that’s a bad idea

[snow heron]

good for you there still not gonna do it

[fallen scarab]

Lord

Yes

Now...

I must do it

THE LONGER IM ON EARTH, THE STRONGER I BECOME.

Samuel Hayden whenever your taking long to open the gate to earth from Urdak.

[snow heron]

Would rather they just modernize the Quake monsters. The Marauders combat loop is kinda boring. Not to mention his AI is rather buggy

How?

[fallen scarab]

Perhaps stop discussing what isn't currently happening yet, bet focus on the currently good aspects of the marauder.

A fun challenge you offered.

I agree

Exactly.

Dissapointing...

Those who disagree with marauder in the game is normally what we call, a "casual"

Those who like the challenge marauder adds are called, "chads".

like myself

[snow heron]

Yeah there is good stuff about him. The first time around his combat loop is fun but after a while they fucked it up hard. He’s not a perfect enemy. There are tons of issues with him that would need to be fixed or reworked

If he appears in a future game

[fallen scarab]

Sure, that is true in some cases regarding his ability to be stun lucked with the ballista and super shotgun.

So I agree that a rework could be in order for the most part.

Perhaps his difficulty is greatly increased whenever mixed with another heavy demon enemy.

[snow heron]

No not that. I’m talking about how for starters. Enemy projectiles can trigger his shield. Sometimes his eyes flash green yet he still puts his shield up when attacked. Buffed and Possessed Marauders are buggy as shit it’s clear there AI can’t keep up with there new speed.

Otherwise he’s fine

[fallen scarab]

Indeed

I have seen this before during the Ancient Gods DLC.

where they spawn two marauders.

The screecher zombie buff made it to where theh blocked projectiles while attacking with green eyes with there axe.

[snow heron]

Also wish they didn’t recycle his eye mechanic for almost every enemy. The Dark Lord fight sucks because he’s just an over sized worse Marauder

[fallen scarab]

Exactly my point earlier

On another channel.

Its extremely easy to defeat the Dark Lord whenever you learn his combat loop and you can bait his green eyes flash attack.

[snow heron]

Still don’t think the Marauder should be in Quake as that other guy said lol.

[fallen scarab]

True

[snow heron]

Yeah. His attacks aren’t even hard (though his healing is a tad bit bullshit). The hammer pretty much invalidates him

[fallen scarab]

I hated how the first time i fought the Dark Lord he healed from melee attacking me and regenerated his whole health bar.

Like, 30 minutes to widdle his health bar down just for that lol.

And my game froze once during the final scenario before his last health stage.

[tight owl]

Ik but i only really recently got into DOOM

[fallen scarab]

nice

ive been playing since the OG

1993 baby

playing since the age of 9

[tight owl]

Dang! Nice!

[fallen scarab]

definitely

[halcyon bear]

Great pfp

[fallen scarab]

nice

[scarlet lance]

Kinda wish the dinky pistol was replaced by the shotgun like Eternal.

[zenith heart]

eh

[still lily]

just don't use it? 💀

[wise cape]

a "baby" weapon at the beginning of the games is normal until you get other guns, until you get something else you basically have infinite ammo even, ||even the demigod the Slayer himself knows that||

[past pelican]

i just bought doom2016

[elder meadow]

Heck yeah

[void venture]

congratulations

I advise you to increase the volume of the music

In the game, I could not appreciate all the coolness of the music (except bfg division)

Coz my music volume was low

[halcyon bear]

It's still good for finishing off a glory out of range

That's about it

[still lily]

after campaign or something you should try out snapmap. i got a few map recommendations

[elder meadow]

In the first age, in the first battle
When the shadows first lengthened, one stood
He chose the path of perpetual torment
In his ravenous hatred he found no peace
And with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains
Seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him
And those that tasted the bite of his sword named him
The Doom Slayer

[scarlet lance]

But a shotgun or at least a Berzerker Pack or Chainsaw would be more fitting for Doom. That pistol just seems insulting.

[orchid lichen]

How is it insulting? Sure big guns are awesome with Doom Slayer, but it’s a flex of his strength that he’s a strong god killer with a pew pew gun 😂

[halcyon bear]

Pistol is just something carried over from the classics. It's enjoying a good retirement now

[orchid lichen]

I hope if a new doom game comes out, the pistol is the last weapon u unlock and its secretly a one-tap weapon for every demon

Like what’s a good example of a cheat from Doom (1993)?

Imagine you have to have the pistol equipped, do a cheat code, and suddenly its stronger than Unmakyr and BFG

[wraith tangle]

there isn't actually a classic doom cheat that increases your damage in any way like that

classic doom makes good use of the pistol as a shootable switch tool and for getting the shotgun from shotgunners if you want to make scotty mad(don't do this plz, mapmakers. just give us a good weapon)

[orchid brook]

So im playing on nightmare, and Im getting my ass kicked a lot more than in eternal, is that normal?

[halcyon bear]

Yeah 2016s nightmare is harder because the balance isn't as fine tuned

[orchid brook]

Yea pinkys are so much harder coz of the lack of freeze grenades

[wise cape]

Canonically speaking, Slayer shouldn't even need a gun

[orchid lichen]

Yeah he just uses it to make me suffer more or something doesn’t he?

[elder meadow]

He uses it because the video game has to happen

[wraith tangle]

i'd never advocate for using ice or stun, but plasma in this game has a stun bomb

[elder meadow]

pinkys are kinda annoying ngl especially in tight spaces

[orchid lichen]

UN scares me tho

Isn't this game UN considered harder than Eternal UN?

[void venture]

on first lvls

after argent tower it easy

[orchid lichen]

Wait rly??

[void venture]

just move

[orchid lichen]

I beat Doom 2016 first level UN

It took me a few hours

[void venture]

im speedrun 1st lvl coz fuck him

[orchid lichen]

That's not very nice : (

[void venture]

I'm tired of going through it and skip almost all the fights

[orchid lichen]

I do try to run from all the fights, but I get destroyed pretty easily

[void venture]

when you beat it 500 times - you get bored

im speedrun just 1st lvl

[orchid lichen]

Wait so is the WHOLE 2016 UN harder than Eternal? Or the first levels of 2016 UN are harder than first UN Eternal elvels?

[void venture]

at the beginning you have few weapons and ammunition, so it's hard

you dont have meathook and dash like in doom eternal

[orchid lichen]

So is 2016 UN harder to beat than Eternal overall?

[void venture]

hell knight can fuck you, obsessed hit you on 90% hp

[orchid lichen]

Or is it far easier in later 2016 levels?

[void venture]

after get gauss game so easy

[orchid lichen]

Bc I'm kinda proud of my 2016 UN first level

I've beat the first level of 2016 and Eternal on UN

[void venture]

you need just remember demon spawns

you can have problem on vega core and last level

[orchid lichen]

Honestly I wouldve thought first level is easiest since its all the fodder demons

[void venture]

hardest levels

[orchid lichen]

But having less of an arsenal does make it far more difficult I suppose

[elder meadow]

whats UN?

[void venture]

[orchid lichen]

Ultra Nightmare.

[elder meadow]

a difficulty lvl? I'm envy some people can play the game like this

I'm currently playing on normal, I enjoy it ngl

[void venture]

it is a pain

nothing in the game brings you pleasure

[elder meadow]

a true hell

[void venture]

you have achieved everything

[orchid lichen]

Yeah highest I've done in 2016 is first level UN. On Eternal I beat campaign Nightmare except Icon of Sin on UV

[void venture]

but im not beat UN doom 2016

coz die on crucible sentrinels

[orchid lichen]

Wait even you haven't beat UN doom 2016?? Too difficult?

That's terrifying..

[void venture]

i die like noob

like fell into the abyss

[elder meadow]

Is doom eternal like 2016? I've heard it's a bit different gameplaywise

[void venture]

or boss use special attack which I have not seen on nightmare

[void venture]

doom eternal more dynamic

and have many buttons

[elder meadow]

so it's not just a simple rip n tear

😦

[orchid lichen]

Pretty much

[hoary nimbus]

anyone know how to fix messed up textures in the game?

[hoary nimbus]

posted a screenshot of my problem in #screenshots cuz fr dont know how to fix this

have reinstalled and relaunched but its still all messed up

[charred minnow]

Actually I think if you enjoyed Doom 2016, it's pretty easy to get used to the new mechanics and it makes the fights even more fun in my opinion.

[wraith tangle]

yes. I know lots of people who did DE UN. pretty much everyone on the battlemode server. But 2016 UN, I know like 2 people who did it -- from my own experience, it took me about a month from getting the game to do DE's and I was able to do a 100 % run. For 2016, it was only relatively recently after playing it for a year on and off that I got it and I did not 100 % the game in that run

[halcyon bear]

I'd say more people have done eternal UN dlc more than base campaign but still his point is spot on

[cold root]

one of the most memorable aspects of the game to me is that enemies can glory kill you

like an Imp tearing your arm out and beating you with it

DE doesn’t has that for some reason

[snow heron]

Probably couldn’t add it due to time constraints real shame though

[ember yacht]

yeah that was a really cool touch

[quick tendon]

Just got doom 2016 and it's fun

[halcyon bear]

[past pelican]

wanna ask that

how does youtubers/streamers like gamespot -if you know him- do graphics settings very low

i mean lowest, potato graphics

are they use a third party application or texture

[snow heron]

Combination of in game settings and console commands pretty sure

[quick tendon]

[wraith tangle]

enemies can't glory kill you if you don't die

[untold stirrup]

enemies can't kill you if you kill them first

[regal charm]

unf

[elder meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-5503484

[alpine surge]

Yea i remember that if you like fall off of somewhere your body just kinda explodes

[white lodge]

damn i cant play this game at teh same time as playing eternal because i cant change my binds

sucks so much

[frank hearth]

That is the reason why I stopped playing

[wraith tangle]

at least on xbox, you can change your controller binds within the xbox 1 accessory settings

[sharp vigil]

yeah, that's kinda sad. in DOOM 2016, you can at least see who killed you, while in DE you, uh

you guess

[boreal forge]

i thought doom 2016 was dead

[white lodge]

switch player homie

[wraith tangle]

from what I could find(can't link cuz the bot), switch can change controls in a similar way

[void venture]

he have snapmap. ofc he not dead

• he have some horror atmosphere

oh, and perfect music

[boreal forge]

I don't know what it is, never went there

[boreal forge]

oh yeah she's perfect

[void venture]

custom map creating

[boreal forge]

I already looked

I meant that the multiplayer is no longer live there

[void venture]

yes, he dead, like in DE

[boreal forge]

DE? What?