doom-2016

[modern current]

Thats what i thought, doom eternal was so much less simple than doom 2016, so many weird game mechanics that hardly interact with each other

[wraith tangle]

Maybe moment-to-moment, but the upgrading process is more complex in doom4

[halcyon bear]

I preferred the upgrade system

[buoyant bone]

i cant take a ss in doom 2016

anyone else can't take a ss too?

[halcyon bear]

You cant take a Super soaker ?

[snow heron]

super shotgun?

solid snake?

sshitstorm?

[buoyant bone]

screenshot

i mean screenshot

in steam

[pale fossil]

Yeah I never liked eternal alot because of how it played doom 2016 was simple just kill shit and have fun doing it

[pale fossil]

Nice. That's pretty useful

[wraith tangle]

I don't think they realized until 2016 just how iconic that thing was. It only shows up so often in doom2, in d3 it's only in dlc for whatever reason, but it is chunky in d4

[halcyon bear]

Mainly because ssg in main campaign doom 3 would have broken the game. Fights are slower and more congested. Max you'll have is 4 or 5 enemies in an encounter

[wraith tangle]

fights could've been balanced for it. It's a choice either way, not like they were forced

[fiery rivet]

Quick switching is kinda broken in Doom 2016 but it’s also very fun. My quick switch combo focuses mainly on the SSG and Gauss cannon.

Also, gauss cannon is better than ballista

Is it me or does the description of the chaingun make it seem stronger than how it functions in game

“An Argent infused piston compresses gas within the firing crucible to over 220,000 PSI. When released, this launches a 15mm Tungsten Slug with a muzzle velocity of nearly 5,000 feet per second.”

[halcyon bear]

Oh it's definitely. I usually only use it to clean up or to cheese something for fun

[austere ravine]

Would anyone like to play snap maps with me sometime? I primarily do survival ones but id try whatever also been wanting to for a while but I don't know people who play DOOM 2016 Add Connie_lingus420 or pm me sometime if you wanna play

[devout mist]

You could go ask in the snapmap discord server, I imagine it'd be pretty easy to find others to play with there

[untold dagger]

Does anyone know where all the field drones are at?

[elder meadow]

Multiplayer is so dead I wish people would play more often

Sure there’s a few rare times where u find some people on teams but that’s it

[median valley]

Yeah but multiplayer is just halo with demons and if they wanted to play halo they would just play halo

[devout mist]

You've never even played 2016 mp, have you

[elder meadow]

im sure halo doesnt have demons

and other battlemode mechanics

[halcyon bear]

It actually more like quake. Not halo at all

[median valley]

i knew that would get some funny reactions out of people

[wise flower]

ive never owned a doom game besides doom 2016 before yesterday and i gotta say i just love the game

[halcyon bear]

My favorite game of all time. I don't think I even have more classic doom ours in as 2016

[wise flower]

i will say ive played the off brand version of one of the classic doom games and its actually how i fell in love with doom

[devout mist]

It's easily my favorite fps game. Not sure about all time favorite game

[wise flower]

i will say though im disappointed in myself because i already beat the game XD i have a problem

im planning on buying doom eternal soon

the first boss that cyborg one i hated fighting it because i was still just bad at the game and it took me aton of trys to beat it mainly because of the second part of the boss

[snow heron]

have you heard of the BFG Exploit perhaps good sir?

[wise flower]

no mainly because i dont really look up exploits

exploits just ruin games

[snow heron]

respect to you. The BFG Exploit is more so just a fun little bug that was left in. Since you beat the game already you should check it out pretty crazy it was left in.

[woeful nebula]

i never knew about it i just played the game

[wraith tangle]

there are two major, and relatively easy bugs that make already OP weapons even stronger: instant siege and bfg weapon wheel

[grizzled glen]

I dont think bfg weapon wheel has ever been fixed

Not even in vfr and eternal

[snow heron]

No it was fixed in Eternal pretty sure it’s still in VFR though

[wraith tangle]

well--- I suppose fixed in the next game I guess But it isn't fixed in doom4

[fiery rivet]

I hope we see the wretch in the next Doom game.

Heck, it’d be cool to be able to play as the wretch. Have the Doom Slayer be more focused on guns and the Wretch on melee weapons.

[bitter glacier]

Y’all into snapmap at all?

[lilac sandal]

nope

Speaking of which, any1 free rn?

i need 1 last multiplayer cheevos for doom 2016, which is getting the gold medal in public match

notify me asap, i don't think it will take a long time to get considering it's easy if it's boosted :D

[sonic rune]

just played doom 2016 for 9 hours straight

feelin good, made lots of progress on 2 snapmap levels

[lilac sandal]

damn congrats

i dont like snap map :\

[snow heron]

Sounds more spin-offish then anything. Also pretty sure Hugo said they have no plans to expand upon the Wretch, if that's ture it's a real shame. A demon that decided to help the Slayer is an interesting concept.

[bitter glacier]

Not sure if this is legit or not lmao if it is, you oughta join the snapmap discord 🤷🏼‍♂️ always happy to see people coming in.

[sonic rune]

im already in alot of servers, but maybe

[bitter glacier]

This one is very dedicated but I definitely get it.

[fast pond]

can i only get 3 bfg shots?

[neon kestrel]

where the hell is my bloodpunch and flame belch
I keep pressing the buttons for those when replaying Doom 16

[wraith tangle]

yeah it doesn't scale with your ammo crystals upgrades -- but, the ammo boost rune, when upgraded, grants you additional bfg ammo from fallen enemies so if you want to use bfg, you really can. If you want bfg capacity to scale with your other weapons, there's always doom2

[atomic horizon]

Bet you even keep on pressing shift expecting the Slayer to dash too...

[halcyon bear]

Imagine having jank muscle memory then blaming the game

[neon kestrel]

You know how many times I screwed myself over this way

[austere ravine]

Anyone down to do survival snap maps @Playstation

[autumn junco]

I've been curious, actually... what do you all think of snap maps? Do you think they're awesome, not awesome, and why do you think so?

[halcyon bear]

They're awesome. Map creation and custom maps are always a good time and add replay value

[devout mist]

Snapmap is great but good god is it unfinished. Had all the soy brains not shit on it relentlessly there's a very good chance more effort would've been put into it

[untold stirrup]

the ammo capacity is 3 shots

[bitter glacier]

In my opinion the options are endless with snapmap. Even with a little patience anyone can make some seriously outstanding geo. Gameplay can be dependent and/or enhanced through the environment. And we have ALOT more to work with after exploring snaphak. 3,300 new props and assets that anyone can use. It’s far closer to an actual product than it’s ever been. If you’re into snapmap I recommend joining the official snapmap discord as I always do lol theres probably someone in here wondering why I keep preaching about it 😂 it deserves another look after all the resources that were dug up 😎

[autumn junco]

Hmm... interesting, interesting... I never played Doom 2016 (I am trying to get that game, btw) and the Snap Map feature always intrigued me, with how you can create your own Doom levels and stuff

[bitter glacier]

You can even get access to runes, praetor upgrades and many other things that were left out. There’s a learning curve with snapmap but that’s what the community is for. If you happen to snag doom and want to give snapmap a shot, the discord has alot of people willing to help. Just make sure you go the distance 🙂 patience is definitely a necessity lol

[bitter glacier]

I think they did quite a bit with it compared to where it was at launch, but where it was at the last update should’ve been where it was at launch.

[late granite]

So y'all are telling me I can make my own map in doom 2016?

[halcyon bear]

More like a mini mission type map nothing crazy and it isn't perfect

[devout mist]

I'd argue it should've been better at launch than it was during the final update. Should've at the very least have all the sp enemies and weapon mods ffs

[bitter glacier]

Yes, but as Gougaru said, it’s not as polished as we’d like it to be. Still though, with patience it can really be a great way to pass time and build something cool. There’s even a option to connect your maps so when you beat one, it’ll automatically throw you into a lobby for the next one in that “campaign”.

[late granite]

Oh wow. I wanna get 2016 and doom 3 but 2016 is just too much money to get both doom 3 and 2016

[elder meadow]

Any "beginners" play multiplayer mode?

Only saw a few players queue and then disappear, never enough for a match to actually start.

[late granite]

Respond to anome

[atomic horizon]

I guess wait for a sale where 2016 and 3 would be cheap af?

My question: are you getting the original 2004 release, or the BFG Edition?

[late granite]

Original pretty sure

I bought doom 3 already

Just haven't played yet cause I need to have energy to play doom

[snow heron]

SnapMap was a great idea and executed nicely real shame it was cut from Eternal

[snow heron]

Doom 3 isn’t super fast paced you’ll be fine

[autumn junco]

I know, I kind of wish it was DLC-ed in, or something... I love level editors like that

[elder meadow]

Yes. Thanks, will try that

[bitter glacier]

@late granite what platform are you on?

[late granite]

I'm on PlayStation.

[fiery rivet]

Quick question: do y’all prefer 2016’s multiplayer or Eternal’s multiplayer?

[buoyant bone]

i never try both of them before

[halcyon bear]

Battlemode had potential. 2016s was fun but there are other games that do that style better

[mighty shoal]

I never played any multiplayer, i just like singleplayer lol

[elder meadow]

Quake Champions has Doom Slayer as a champ, and a multiplayer superior to both Doom games.

[halcyon bear]

^ that's what I was hinting at

[sharp vapor]

and quake champions doom edition has better netcode and duke nukem

[grizzled glen]

Quake 3 has 6 doom slayers which makes it the best

It also has bitterman, ranger, and john carmack just to name a few

[wraith tangle]

quake3 needs TNT-guy

[atomic gazelle]

Is anyone else having this collectable bug I got both collectables for a mission on separate attempts and it’s displaying 0/2

[stray mica]

Bro I play console multiplayer and my game just keeps saying searching for games. It’s broke as hell

[halcyon bear]

Not broke. Empty

[wraith tangle]

nah if people happen to not be on, that does mean the game is broken(though ocassionally servers are in fact down but that's pretty rare)

[halcyon bear]

It's not down on pc for the most part also it depends on the day like I always say. I get matches but at random times. Theres nothing broken at the moment

[restive vector]

where more story

In doom eternal do I get to curb stomp Olivia Pierce

[wraith tangle]

did you get to the end yet of this game?

[restive vector]

Yep

I know Olivia is the spider robot demon

But it would be sick if she came back out and we blow her head off

[wraith tangle]

||she shows up as a statue towards the end of the game and doomslayer casually smashes it to open a path. She is not literally the statue, but the statue is in her likeness||

[restive vector]

Ohh

Doom is Doom

[sharp vapor]

they did?

[prisma herald]

doom slayer saved a backup of vega in 2016, idk what happened for the other stuff

[turbid relic]

there is a bit of a jump between 2016 and eternal although it's not pivotal to the plot

[slim pebble]

And the BFG is still a prototype years later.

[halcyon bear]

Probably because they can't figure a way to make it lighter for portable use

[elder meadow]

Was there a factory made that could mass produce it, after the prototype was invented?

[elder meadow]

They'd rename it LFG, Light F'in' Gun.

[halcyon bear]

Probably

The light version is the plasma anyways

[elder meadow]

Yeah, Q3 BFG was literally green Plasma with RL damage

[pallid abyss]

Hello

[spice turret]

Hello, I’m assuming the multiplayer for doom 2016 is pretty much nonexistent at this point. Trying to get the multiplayer trophies so I can get the platinum.

[snow heron]

Depends your region and platform really. There are people in this chat who might be willing to play though

[spice turret]

Makes sense. Playing on ps4. In a free for all lobby with 2 other people. Just need one more a match

[wraith tangle]

team play gets the most people

[outer venture]

Hey guys I've beat the game a couple of times, and even replayed the missions trying to get the "Double Take" Challenge from The Advanced Reasearch Facility to trigger. No matter what I do, it only shows 1/2 Progress. Even replaying the level will show the challenge light up and complete in the Mission Complete screen, but as soon as it gets back to the Mission Select screen it's back to 1 of 2.

It's the only thing holding back my "What Else You Got?" Achievement. Does anyone know how to fix this?

[halcyon bear]

In this case you usually need to start a new game

[outer venture]

Thank you I‘ll give it a try

[halcyon bear]

Bummer I know but that solved trophy issues for me in the past

[fiery rivet]

Imagine if the 3 bosses could be used in snap map

[atomic gazelle]

Same thing happened to me but with the collectable mission and it was my first play through ever (even on nightmare) and I was tryna 100% everything

[outer venture]

Wow this is really anoying. Did you get the collectable mission on a new game?

[atomic gazelle]

Too mad to do it again

Hopefully on eternal this doesn’t happen

@outer venture

[outer venture]

Yeah I will wait a few days until I try it again. I saw online that this bug is in the game since 2016

[atomic gazelle]

It sucks so much too because you realize all that progress was for nothing if you were tryna 100% And I mean I’m still playing nightmare currently on mission 11 idek how I’m surriving being my first play

[outer venture]

Yeah I have 2 bugged achievements because of this. Good Luck for mission 11 man.

[atomic gazelle]

What’s weird is on mission select it displays you have them all so that’s just an extra kick also thanks I hate cacodemons for life in this game

[outer venture]

Yeah all of this is really anoying

[atomic gazelle]

It’s as bs as the last fight of the advanced research complex where they spawn 2 barons of hell out of nowhere and I died bc I was not prepared

Tho it was pretty funny

[lament girder]

Oh god i forgot how much the rocket launcher sucked in this game
shits dreadful without external payload

it's infuriating how it can't even one shot a soldier with AOE damage but will GLADLY delete you if your pinky toe is anywhere within blast range lol

come to think of it base fire for every gun is far stronger in eternal

even the shotgun feels like its got better dps compared to the 2016 one, probably cuz it feels punchier

[atomic gazelle]

Honestly the only time I like using the rocket launcher is when I want to substitute it for the gauge cannon and not waste it’s energy also the rocket lock mod is so much better

Also who needs the RT when you got the super shotgun like Jesus when you have mastery on that weapon it’s a beast

[elder meadow]

I don't mind RL, just don't aim it at your own legs

[wraith tangle]

keep in mind that lock on rockets do less damage than regular rockets. The RL is often an anchor when swapping weapons to skip reload times since it has high damage and high ammo. -- though rocket + lock on + rocket is an interesting combo

[halcyon bear]

Remote detonation is literally one of the most op weapons in the game or any doom game

[halcyon bear]

The ssg In 2016 is so powerful you can complete the whole game only using that weapon. It was basically nerfed in eternal

I guess it's a different thing if it's your feelings that are telling you the weapons are weak... but they simply just aren't.

[wraith tangle]

I think it's better in DE with meathook and I think stronger damage per hit, maybe that's just a feel? maybe mancs have less health?

[noble moat]

You read it wrong

The eternal stuff feels stronger

But to be fair they had to make all weapons stronger / better due to having double the enemy count in eternal

[halcyon bear]

I think a better way to put it is balance. The weapons do feel punchy but you can't exactly pull a 2016 and have a single base weapon able to melt a room

[halcyon bear]

2016 ssg does around 1920 damage where as I believe eternals is 1600.

[wraith tangle]

it all depends on what the monster's health

[fiery rivet]

Gauss cannon is still far superior to ballista

[wraith tangle]

I do think dblade is cooler to use though since it's a more fancy effect

[halcyon bear]

Dblade kills

[dull hatch]

Does anyone still play this multilayer on xb??

[turbid relic]

some do

usually just need to wait a bit to find people

i waited like 15 minutes on pc the last time i did multiplayer

[atomic gazelle]

Ikr even on nightmare the beefiest demons only take like 4-6 hits iirc

And with mastery hitting 2 times before reload…

[halcyon bear]

It's a beast

[atomic gazelle]

I always use it when I’m in close quarters with a beefy demon especially the hell knights it’s funny

It makes mancubus look weak

The only demon I’m afraid of using it close too are barons of hell

[halcyon bear]

Stun ssg

[atomic gazelle]

I only stun them when I know I can survive afterwards so I do it when theirs only a few demons left or I just kill them other ways also when I first played this game I thought the plasma would be 10x more useful but I only stun bomb with it now lmfao

[halcyon bear]

Heat blast I find is more useful later game

[atomic gazelle]

I’ll give it a shot then and see

I just chose it over heat blast cuz I thought it would be funny to stun the aggressive demons lmao

[halcyon bear]

Heat blast mastery also auto charges so it's super useful just for that

[atomic gazelle]

Nice maybe I’ll use it more then idk for now I just love using the gauge cannon and the two shotguns the most

Anyways I’m kinda sad how eternal made some of the 2016 demons look far less scary or horrific

[halcyon bear]

With heat or stun the go 2 combo is Canon precision bolt I have played around with siege

[atomic gazelle]

There’s too many combos lmao I just go with anything that seems fun

Also that free slow motion you get on xb lol

[lament girder]

eternal SSG can one shot stagger a revenant at close range
it can 3-shot mancubi, hell and dread knights, arachnos, cacodemons and pain elementals, 5-shot barons and archviles at a reasonable range

the rocket launcher, HC and ballista are all undeniably stronger in eternal also. even the plasma gun has (although very small) AOE

[halcyon bear]

Yeah but I listed the damage. Almost 2k damage in 2016

So yeah

[lament girder]

t. cleared all 5 master levels on NM with the SSG only

[lament girder]

it certainly doesn't feel like it, most things drop in more shots than needed

you can't even shoot down multiple fodder mobs

[halcyon bear]

Oh eternals weapons feel alot better. Don't get me wrong. But some of the 2016 weapons especially upgraded almost break the game

I'm glad they figured out balance for eternal

[wraith tangle]

oh they did not

[lament girder]

i don't disagree , I'm just saying eternal weapons are a lot meaner right out of the box and it's cool to be able to count your shots when taking aim at things

[wraith tangle]

Energy Shield and Lock on are Brokey, especially shield

[lament girder]

4 HC shots will stagger zombies, 2 on imps and gargs

[lament girder]

two examples don't really undermine the rest

most mods are very situational

[wraith tangle]

If you choose to play with the more balanced kit, DE is very well balanced yeah.

But if you choose to use lock on and shield -- they do undermine movement and weapons swapping

[lament girder]

I don't even use shield or lock on, i just SSG spam lol

[wraith tangle]

I have mixed feelings about pb. It's just good in all circumstances and any range and has crazy ammo -- it anchors swaps so powerfully.

But I think that's fair considering that it takes some skill to use

[lament girder]

most weapon combos part from PB true but it deals pitiful damage in its own unless you use it for mob clearing

[halcyon bear]

More dependent on swaps is my meaning. You can not beat eternal with just one weapon

[wraith tangle]

energy shield bash everything and lock on when you feel like it if you want to only use two weapons

[lament girder]

you can manage SSG only if you try :y

[narrow shadow]

Bro I restarted and forgot everything

I forgot going back into the yellow door gives you a healthy gift of a hell knight

I can physically see my soul leaving my body and shitting itself

[shut basin]

my experience with the combat shotgun says no

[halcyon bear]

2s still better than one

[halcyon bear]

Maybe It's because I play un and nightmare

[shut basin]

yeah i just play hurt me plenty

[wraith tangle]

Stickies are half decent even without swaps

[lament girder]

headshot dmg

[wraith tangle]

glitchy as h&ck

[atomic gazelle]

I wish they added just a few more demons to make the game a bit harder in the few last missions even on nightmare it’s noticeably lacking a bit

Like titans realm I died like 2 times lol

[wraith tangle]

mm true. Last few levels kinda fall apart to a fully equiped slayer. But I do remember those being gruelling in a first playthrough when I didn't find all that much gear or know how to use it

[atomic gazelle]

For me theirs only like 1 pretty hard fight in every late game level in early levels I died 5 times per area lmao

On nightmare btw (twas my first play through ever)

Actually in the very very first area where they spam imps I think I died 20 times

[lavish crescent]

i could debate the first level is the hardest lmao

[atomic gazelle]

Tru actually for me it was foundry

The only time I struggle is when they spam 20 mancubus

[wraith tangle]

mancs are so slow and don't seem to care if you skirt past them

[atomic gazelle]

Mine try to shockwave every time

[halcyon bear]

Are you playing nightmare or UV?

[fiery rivet]

I wonder how the multiplayer weapons would act in the single player

[atomic gazelle]

Nightmare

[halcyon bear]

Hmm I'd just do a un run then if you're killing it. I didn't attempt mine until my second no death nightmare run though

[ionic light]

Guys

When i will get new weapon

Im at 4th mission

Im worried that i missed one

[lavish crescent]

There’s a super shotgun at one of the arc complex levels

[wraith tangle]

There is a nonsecret rifle in the second map as well as a secret plasma. The third level probably has a plasma, and has a secret rocket launcher. The 4th level has a secret ssg and probably a rocket launcher. map05 has a secret gauss(laser). then map06 has a secret gauss. I'm pretty sure that every secret weapon appears in the subsequent level but I'm not 100 % sure. If you're still riding pistol + shotgun...yeah you missed a lot

[lavish crescent]

Gauss in kangidir sanctum isn’t really secret

Pretty obvious tbh

[wraith tangle]

my bad, regular gauss there. typing hard

[lavish crescent]

Fair

[wraith tangle]

I think it has a secret chaingun in map6

[atomic gazelle]

Isn’t it the Gatling

And the gauge is in argent tower

[lavish crescent]

I remember there’s a gauss cannon there and it’s quite obvious

[atomic gazelle]

I remember it being a Gatling gun and it was obvious

[lavish crescent]

There’s a chaingun as well

But I think it was kind of hidden away without it being too hidden

[atomic gazelle]

Oh wait I see what you mean the Gatling (chaingun) is obviously noticeable but the gauge cannon is basically a secret at the end of the argent tower

Or later on

[wraith tangle]

easy as it may be to find, kad's chaingun is marked a secret and for what it's worth, I did miss it first playthrough. The next cg is in argent tower(destroyed)

[atomic gazelle]

I found it super easy to find because in nightmare you always wanna check the whole arena for resources until you go to the next area or atleast I did

[halcyon bear]

Plus Mars and the UAC base looks great

Hell is one of my favorites in the series

[atomic gazelle]

I think mission 6 is my favourite

Due to its brutalness and overall design

Plus barons get introduced

[lavish crescent]

Yeah same

[atomic gazelle]

Plus the last fight which is super fun

[mighty shoal]

sameee, i love replaying that level when im bored

[burnt kettle]

Also the theme "Damnation" is top 3 in 2016 ost

It's what make Kadinger and Titans Realm the best missions of 2016

[halcyon bear]

For me the aesthetic

[burnt kettle]

It makes the outside walls of Immora in Eternal look like a PS2 game

[hallow tundra]

Kinda wild how your change is guaranteed to be 17 weapon upgrade points if you buy all the weapon mod upgrades, then beat the game with all the secrets and challenges.

[weak heron]

lmfao

doom 2016

anyone

[elder meadow]

Doom

[worthy scaffold]

Summoner
Refuses to elaborate further

[tawny garnet]

First summoner interaction made me shit my pants cause I thought it was an archvile

[atomic gazelle]

I found summoners to be like 3rd easiest enemy in the game once you know where they’re gonna teleport it’s all over

Or ultra speed idk

Even in nightmare they’re pretty pathetic honestly

Pinky’s and cacodemons are the true menaces especially imps (nightmare)

[mighty shoal]

imps are torture in nightmare

[atomic gazelle]

I 100000% agree especially on the early levels but I made it through now I’m trying to kill the spider mastermind I don’t regret nightmare being my first play lmao

[mighty shoal]

my first playthrough was UV, then i did 2 on nightmare

imps are awful

[atomic gazelle]

Guess how many tries it took me to beat the first area in mission 1 (the imp spam place) compared to mission 11 and 12 combined

Nightmare has made me despise imps forever I can’t look at one without feeling deep hatered lol

[mighty shoal]

idk lol

[atomic gazelle]

I’ll tell you

[mighty shoal]

samee

its so annoying getting killed by them

[atomic gazelle]

32 to 8

[atomic gazelle]

32 being the imp spam lmao

[mighty shoal]

honestly makes sense, since early in the game you will die from 2 imp hits

no spamming what

[atomic gazelle]

0 ig

Oof wrong ping

[atomic gazelle]

Anyways especially when they kill you for standing still for a like 1 quintillionth of a second

[mighty shoal]

👍 👍

[atomic gazelle]

At the end of a match too that’s when it’s truly despair

Happened to me like 6 times

[mighty shoal]

truee

whats annoying is the loading screen in between every death

[atomic gazelle]

Yeah

Some other really really annoying ones are soul skulls cacos and the pinky variations

When I first saw a pinky in nightmare I actually debated if I wanted to switch to UV but I didn’t then it got worse with spectres lmao

[mighty shoal]

ehh they arent too bad, just double jump over them

its just annoying how much hits they take if you cant hit the tail

[atomic gazelle]

When ever I do that they rammed into me anyways for me I have to stun them and pray no other demon snipes me while I kill them like AHEM the CACODEMON

[atomic gazelle]

Litteraly half your life lmao

On full

Which is stupid

Same for cacos but they snipe

[mighty shoal]

cacodemons suck if you dont notice them

or are focused on something else

in doom eternal they are worse tho

[atomic gazelle]

Bro I can not tell you how many times I died trying to kill the cacos first or getting blocked by others demons because of it or how I get sniped if I try and focus on others like 24/7 movement on them or you will die

[mighty shoal]

what are your thoughts on the mancubus

that thing is basically instant death if you get close to it

[atomic gazelle]

Honestly they’re ok they’re moderately easy to dodge I kinda seige them to death or with ssg the ones I hate tho to death are the cyber one literally one mistake and the acid is probably kill

Sometimes getting close to them is a hassle tho

Especially when they spam like 12

[mighty shoal]

cyber mancubus is annoying yeah, they take forever to kill

[atomic gazelle]

Honestly I think o bfged like 60% of them lmao

[mighty shoal]

in the big fights in argent d'nur i bfg'd most of them

[atomic gazelle]

I think this is a unpopular opinion but I find barons of hell really really easy to dodge unless they hit surprisingly

[mighty shoal]

they arent that bad

i bfg them most times

they're big hell knights that throw green balls

[atomic gazelle]

I just plasma stun and ssg and it’s hilarious the only time I miserably died to them was in the advanced research complex with a cheap second wave (‘twas funny tho)

In the last round when you bring up the elevator

[mighty shoal]

yess that part sucked

i got so mad the first time i played through that, i died so much and just to figure out there were 2 barons at the end of the fight

[atomic gazelle]

I was so caught off guard that after that I literally was too paranoid not to think about it every time I do a action after a fight

[atomic gazelle]

I wasn’t too mad but I put down the controller for an hour I was laughing a bit tho ngl

[mighty shoal]

i was stuck on that fight for a while on my first time there

[atomic gazelle]

Took me like 1 and a half hour (excluding breaks)

Sad how the late game levels got like 3947x easier

[mighty shoal]

true

[atomic gazelle]

Besides that one area in Vega corp

[mighty shoal]

bigger fights but you have a bfg and rich get richer

[atomic gazelle]

Literally like 20 of everything on that last area on Vega processing thought it would never end

Like 8 waves or something

[mighty shoal]

i think i know what you're talking about

does the fight start with 2 barons

[atomic gazelle]

2nd last mission

[atomic gazelle]

Pretty sure

You’re on a train

[mighty shoal]

yeah thats what im thinking of

that one was stressful but not too bad for me, the worst fight was the one in the cooling area in that level

[atomic gazelle]

I found that one too easy actually wanna know what I did

[mighty shoal]

sure

[atomic gazelle]

I broke each one while doing ultimate parkour moves then the moment I get berserk I switch my runes to make berserk even more deadly and it was so bad the only thing left standing were 2 imps and a hell razor

(I get berserk after I break them all)

[mighty shoal]

that sounds like a good strategy, abuse berserk

berserk is so fun with seek and destroy rune

[atomic gazelle]

Exactly far glory kills + faster glory kills + armour kills all max upgrade

[mighty shoal]

oh i didnt even think about faster glory kills

thats a great idea for berserk

[atomic gazelle]

It was so bad that if a area had a berserk I was guaranteed to be no hit well almost no hit

The areas would get smooshed

Everything just dead

[mighty shoal]

berserk is amazing

[atomic gazelle]

It’s honestly too op in 2916

Literally like glory kill things from half the map

[mighty shoal]

true

it barely appears in eternal

its pretty common in 2016 tho

[atomic gazelle]

I loved quad dmg so much tho because think about ssg is super super op and mastery makes it fire twice before reload so that’s 4 hits and 4 x 4 and you basically have a weapon that one shots pretty much everything

Or two shots pretty much everything

[grizzled glen]

I only remember seeing it one time

[mighty shoal]

same

[mighty shoal]

i would love to use quad damage against the cyberdemon or spider mastermind

[mighty shoal]

there is a cheat code for it but i tried using it and it didnt even work

i was not berserked

[grizzled glen]

That seems like it would suck

[atomic gazelle]

Quad dmg on the bfg against the bosses would literally destroy any difficulty they once had into brainless mush

[mighty shoal]

facts

i wanna shoot a quad damage seige shot into the cyberdemon and watch the health bar go away

[atomic gazelle]

Is it just me or were the hell gaurds second phase like 50x easier then the first

Also cyber demon was also somewhat easy but definitely harder then the hell gaurds

[mighty shoal]

i died more on the hell guards second phase

[mighty shoal]

i dont think ive ever died to the cyberdemon, its attacks are so easy to dodge

[atomic gazelle]

First phase took 10 tries second took 2 lol

[mighty shoal]

probably opposite for me

[atomic gazelle]

I was just being dumb

[atomic gazelle]

Idk their attacks just seemed more passive like 1 minute of spamming seige and free win

[mighty shoal]

oh and you can deal damage whenever you want in the second phase

not just when they're attacking

[atomic gazelle]

Exactly that too

If they had shields it would of been the end for my run lol

[mighty shoal]

yeah it would be awful like that

the spider mastermind was pretty damn easy tbh

[atomic gazelle]

I died to the master mind more times then I would like to admit tho to be fair I couldn’t rap my head around the aoe attack for some reason but when I figured it out I Gatling it to death

Like spikes from the pillars and stuff

[mighty shoal]

i died a few times to it in nightmare but in UV i didnt die at all

[atomic gazelle]

Idk why I didn’t notice

[mighty shoal]

yeah that got me by surprise too

[atomic gazelle]

Probably because more aggressive maybe and definitely more dmg

That laser attack tho

Easy to dodge but

Damn

When it hits

It hits

[mighty shoal]

yup

[atomic gazelle]

Also since it being my first doom game and first difficulty being nightmare I think I’m excused from dying like 57 times

[mighty shoal]

it was my first doom game as well

doom 2016 chads

[atomic gazelle]

If only you played nightmare first like I saw people play UV and I got so mad when I seen imps get to glory kill on one normal shot gun hit

Instead of two

[mighty shoal]

i only play the game on nightmare now

bro i got one of my friends to play the game and he was playing on im too young to die

[atomic gazelle]

Wait what

Not even on hurt me plenty

[mighty shoal]

yeah it hurt me to see

[atomic gazelle]

Bro in I’m too young to die Im 99% sure you can get hit by a pinky 100 times before dying

[mighty shoal]

i tried playing im too young to die and took 10 damage from an imp

it hurt my soul

[atomic gazelle]

Like even my friends who played UV saids that difficulty gets to easy so this is just….

[mighty shoal]

UV wasnt that bad

im too young to die is truly just for people who want to turn their brain off i suppose

[atomic gazelle]

Bruh that really hurts especially when nightmare imps do like 80 atleast do hurt me plenty it’s still easy but atleast every hit is not gonna be a little scratch

[mighty shoal]

at least in hurt me plenty you can die

im too young to die is game journalist difficulty

[atomic gazelle]

Yeah here’s how it go

I’m too young to die - basically if you never picked up a controller in your life or just too scared to play normalish mode

Hurt me plenty - getting their you can actually die but still too easy

Ultra violence - this is where the journey begins prepare to go through agony from time to time

Nightmare-prepare to die

UN - you’re a masochist

[mighty shoal]

👍👍👍

im never doing UN lmao

i did the first mission in UN for the achievement but nothing further

[atomic gazelle]

That’s for like elite elites

[mighty shoal]

yup

[atomic gazelle]

The only level I think I did deathless was mission 7

No sorry 8

Complete luck

Oh wait it was 7

I’m being dumb

Excuse the brain fart and depletion of brain cells

[mighty shoal]

lol you're good

what was your favorite level? mine was mission 6

[atomic gazelle]

6 as well that last area with the red mist was too good and the difficulty on nightmare for that was actually perfect and I loved it

And bfg division music playing with that fight was too good

[mighty shoal]

yes that last fight is very fun

[atomic gazelle]

What’s funny is I think that was the fastest my heart has beaten on that game when I did that battle because of the looks and difficulty still think it’s one of the hardest missions on nightmare foundry maybe a bit harder still not sure

[mighty shoal]

that fight was hard because of the barons at the end

at least for me

[atomic gazelle]

I kinda abused that by only using quad dmg when the mancubi came out so I could use them on the barons lmao

[mighty shoal]

yeah same

[atomic gazelle]

Seige is too op for the barons on quad dmg

And plasma stun + ssg = free kill anyway

I wish doom kept their old difficulty thing and gave you a baby skull if you chose the easiest difficultly

[mighty shoal]

maybe the reason i struggled so much my first time playing the game is because i never used the plasma rifle

never did stun a single thing

[atomic gazelle]

I thought the plasma was the most op thing back then (i was only sorta right…)

[atomic gazelle]

Pinky’s depise the stun bomb lmao

Spectres tho are so annoying I have to turn my brightness super high sometimes

Practically invisible

[mighty shoal]

spectres arent that hard to see

imo

[atomic gazelle]

In dark area it’s awful

In light areas it’s bearable

[mighty shoal]

yea fair

[atomic gazelle]

Hence why I abuse brightness

Imagine if there were Invisible cacos or invisible barons or…. Invisible imps….

[mighty shoal]

everything invisible mode

that would be awful

[atomic gazelle]

Mission 1 would be as hard as 6

And 6 as hard as UN

[lavish crescent]

The one level in titans realm with the two doors with the gears behind it

Dark as shit with like 6 spectres running around

[atomic gazelle]

That’s exactly what I was talking about

[atomic gazelle]

Then they summon 2 barons after that hell for laughs

[lavish crescent]

I’d rather have 4 barons than 6 spectres

[atomic gazelle]

I rather face 7 cyber mancubi

Or 12 cacodemons

[lavish crescent]

Yeah, probably also that

[atomic gazelle]

Actually maybe not 12

[lavish crescent]

Lmao

Still, I see why the spectres

[atomic gazelle]

I hate cacos so much but I also love them because meat ball

[atomic gazelle]

Spectres are just a cheap way of saying “you’re too good now take some bs”

[lavish crescent]

Fair

[atomic gazelle]

Cyber mancubi made sense because like it’s a buffer version right spectre is just a more autistic version

[lavish crescent]

Spectre yeah

The guys at Id said that they’re comfortable with making a enemy annoying if they think the player can learn from it when designing eternals enemies

Did they also apply this to 2016

[atomic gazelle]

So you’re saying the learning curve here is to notice something completely in the dark because yes

[lavish crescent]

Not exactly

Im wondering if there was a learning curve with the spectres

[atomic gazelle]

Probably how to suck it up when it comes to werid dumb demons

Idk maybe it’s be more aware of surroundings ig

Still sucks tho

[lavish crescent]

Yeah

On the other hand they probably wanted to take full advantage of the spectres invisibility

[atomic gazelle]

Reason being is even if you are more aware spectres like pinky’s have inconsistent speeds basically they can go Mach 20 and ram you before you even see them or slow as a turtle for no reason

And with spectres is 5x harder

[lavish crescent]

Yeah, and the uncontrollability when running is absolute bullshit

They can do a turn almost 90 degrees and maintain all that speed

[atomic gazelle]

Ikr and you have to literally move the moment you see them or they will hit you atleast in eternal you can actually.. you know.. DASH

[lavish crescent]

When I got back to 2016 since my eternal game got fucked for some reason i got punished hard when I couldn’t dash out of the way of a pinky

I’d say pinky’s are a lot more tough in 2016 than in eternal

[atomic gazelle]

Yeah glad I played 2016 first lmao

[lavish crescent]

Same

Dashes are a nice counter for pinky’s

[atomic gazelle]

So I know how to dodge bs without dashing

[lavish crescent]

The fact that you can oneshot them with blood punch make it unfair against them

But yknow, fuck them

They’re pieces of shit they deserve it lmao

[atomic gazelle]

Others say it’s the other way around but I’m like in 2016 you can’t dash in eternal you have 100 mores ways to kill a pinky Instead of ssg everyone in the back

[lavish crescent]

Hm

[atomic gazelle]

Like ice bomb

[lavish crescent]

I found SSG in its back is a bit inconsistent

[lavish crescent]

And faltering them and dashing behind

[atomic gazelle]

Exactly way more opportunities

[lavish crescent]

Still good ofc, but sometimes I found that the pinky didn’t die from a SSG shot in the back

So I use the gauss cannon instead

[atomic gazelle]

For me it was always 2 or 3, 4 on rare occasions

[atomic gazelle]

Still a good option I just like using my siege for the Buff buffs (caco being an exception)

[lavish crescent]

Yes

[atomic gazelle]

Cacos be sniping when undetected lmao

[lavish crescent]

Also change of topic, what’s your favourite music from 2016

[atomic gazelle]

Hmmmmm maybe bfg division

[lavish crescent]

My favourite is damnation or rip and tear

[atomic gazelle]

Ima listen to those and see if I change my mind

[lavish crescent]

Also listen to rip and tear with the dogma intro, it makes it a lot more epic

[atomic gazelle]

K

@lavish crescent I can’t decide between rip and tear and bfg division

Both so good on how they approach their goals

[round spindle]

Dm it

[lavish crescent]

Chose both

Ain’t no shame in having several favourite tracks

[halcyon bear]

Harbinger

[harsh crow]

Should I buy Doom 2016?

[weak heron]

its mad fun

[harsh crow]

Better than Eternal?

[weak heron]

idk

havent played eternaL

[harsh crow]

I would be glad to get it legit if its this good

[quick minnow]

get eternal instead if you dont have it

its still good

[harsh crow]

Already finishdd it

[weak heron]

yea prob

o ok

[quick minnow]

but eternal gameplay wise i would say is better

[harsh crow]

Im playing the ancient gods rn but I would play doom 2016 too

[lavish crescent]

That one as well, forgot to mention it

[devout mist]

I'd say faaar better than eternal

[native ice]

@harsh crow It all comes to what you like, some like 2016 more, some eternal more

There is no 'better than' or 'the x is the best' when it comes to doom eternal and 2016

[untold stirrup]

I'd say to treat the 2 games differently, because they're so different

You shouldn't play one like the other

But both are good for their own reasons

2016 is more grounded, gritty, and serious with simpler gameplay

Eternal is faster paced, bright, and "arcadey" with more complex mechanics and gameplay loop

[halcyon bear]

They have alot in common but alot uncommon. If you have okay muscle memory you shouldn't have to much of an issue enjoying both

[atomic gazelle]

Precisely one main point is that eternal focuses more on variety with weak points and such 2016 you can basically super shotgun carry the whole thing

[wraith tangle]

both games have OP weapons that you can crutch on. But you can also use a variety of combos if you prefer

[atomic gazelle]

Combos just make it fun lol

[halcyon bear]

People always forget about the fun

[atomic gazelle]

To be fair tho I go on a ssg spree when I get quad dmg lmao

[halcyon bear]

I use tac scope with quad if I feeling being weird

[atomic gazelle]

I only use scope if they’re like half across the map

Also berserk is too op

Shoulda reduced by 10 seconds atleast (with the increase time upgrade)

[halcyon bear]

It's extremely useful for imps especially on nightmare.

Underused honestly since rockets are better

[untold stirrup]

If I grab a Berserk, I equip Armored Offensive and go to town, literal rain of armor shards on the floor

Pair that with Savagery and Seek and Destroy, and you can clear out an arena in literal seconds

I did this for the final fight in Titan's Realm on NM No HUD

[quiet nimbus]

I’m downloading doom any tips???

2016 btw

[atomic gazelle]

That’s exactly my reasoning lmao everyone does that combo

[atomic gazelle]

Always move

Never ever stand still

Be unpredictable

[quiet nimbus]

Okay

[atomic gazelle]

And um when you get shotgun don’t get charged burst it sucks

Explosive shot is god tier

Also you’ll love pinky’s and cacodemons

[halcyon bear]

Spectre are fantastic always enjoy when they're tossed in an arena

[elder meadow]

i think all the doom 2016 demons are cool, but honestly my favourites would have to be revenants and mancubuses

[atomic gazelle]

My favourites are the pinky’s (despite how much I hate them) and barons

Well design wise anyways

Play wise just pain

[untold stirrup]

Not when fully upgrade, it's pretty good at quickswap combos

But beginning of game, I always do recommend explosive shot

[frail coyote]

Agreed, barons are cool

[tardy apex]

how does this game have a better customization system than halo
(just joking)

[halcyon bear]

Because it's better

[hazy sphinx]

hello everyone. I am a new player of Doom 2016. How do I counter the boyz with shields ? It seems that the most easy way is to cut them with the saw.

[lavish crescent]

i toss a grenade behind them or use the expoding shot

[hazy sphinx]

lmao I forgot this game had grenade

[wraith tangle]

remote det on the rockets, stun bomb on plasma, chainsaw, just shooting at them for a while with plasma, frags.

[chilly maple]

Stun Bomb on Plasma is probably the best counter for them

[atomic gazelle]

I just explode shotgun their back

I think I might of used the exploding shotgun to much on my nightmare run because I have 3000 kills on it while everything else is on the 500-1200 range

[hazy sphinx]

where can I pist image ?

post

[atomic gazelle]

#screenshots I think

[halcyon bear]

Pist

[elder meadow]

I’m done with 2016 😭

Just deleted my progress on accident 😭😭😭😭

[wintry cobalt]

F

[harsh crow]

Bruh 2016 is freaking insane!

I always thought it was garbage

But it's even better than Eternal somehow

[ionic swift]

I like all dooms

It was my childhood

[prime mortar]

I like all dooms because they're all fun and that's the only reason

except for 3, just can't bring myself to like 3

[serene quarry]

Doom 2016 is cool game

[atomic gazelle]

Imo I like eternal better but they’re completely different for example doom eternal prioritizes on weapon variety and makes you use mechanics more like the chainsaw for 2016 the chainsaw is a get out of jail for free card and you can super shotgun solo like every level

Tho 2016 is still a very outstanding game

[harsh crow]

yea ur right

[halcyon bear]

They both have their advantages and disadvantages from one another but they translate well depending on your muscle memory

[atomic gazelle]

I mean all we really need to know in any doom game is RIP & TEAR

[fiery rivet]

I think the Doom 2016 Praetor suit is better than Eternal’s

[atomic gazelle]

Same but I’m guessing it’s for balance purposes

Much more upgrades beside predator tokens

[chilly maple]

Honestly both DOOM 2016 and Eternal are amazing games. I personallly prefer Eternal, because it has more interesting mechanics and enemies for me, but I enjoy both of them equally

[halcyon bear]

^💯

[pliant raft]

When i hear doom 2016 i also just remember connor shaw

[slim tide]

How do I play on nightmare? the option isnt showing

ohh its the other settings nevermind. the game has 2 before u start a campaign

[hazy sphinx]

i FEEL like the machine gun don't do so much damage. is it just me ?

[halcyon bear]

Tac rounds do

[cunning portal]

Can someone help me I can’t progress am stuck?

Nvm I was dumb

That took me 1h

[hushed storm]

it doesn't prioritize weapon variety it prioritizes headaches

[frail coyote]

Still can’t decide which is better, Doom 2016 or Doom Eternal

[noble moat]

Why not both

[hushed storm]

2016

[atomic gazelle]

Yes how foolish of me ofc they want your head to bleed obviously

[atomic gazelle]

The mobile turret mod does a lot imo

[atomic gazelle]

Both are amazing in they’re own way so honestly if you can’t decide then both

[slim tide]

coming back to 2016 after eternal and wow

this game has a lot of fog and dust effects

[round spindle]

Eternal

[trim mason]

I wish multiplayer wasnt a wasteland

[halcyon bear]

💯

[frail coyote]

Yeah, true

[frail coyote]

True, both are amazing games

[elder meadow]

Gameplay and mechanic wise, I think Eternal is better over 2016. Though 2016 atmosphere is better, horror, dark.

[autumn junco]

I FINALLY GOT DOOM 2016!!!! It's fun, very fun

[elder meadow]

Why did it take me so long to find the portal to the necropolis in titans realm

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[opal swan]

Lets get a squad together then. I've always wanted to try it🥳

[atomic gazelle]

On nightmare it’s even more fun

[atomic gazelle]

The demon deigns in 2016 actually look like horrific monsters in eternal some look like they’re getting minimum wage to fight you

[autumn junco]

Nah, they get paid $21 a Day, Once a Month to fight Doom Slayer!

[atomic gazelle]

Some designs tho actually good scary like dread knight

I hated the slayer gate on mission 2 since it was on nightmare I had to keep restarting forever they killed me so much but after like 2 hours I beat it

Cuz it was 2 dread knights

[autumn junco]

I do like the overall look of Doom: Eternal, but... I do agree, I much prefer Doom 2016's aesthetic... if they used the enhancements of Doom: Eternal's engine and used Doom 2016's aesthetics, I would be very happy with that

[atomic gazelle]

4 revenets and 90 imps and gargoyles

[atomic gazelle]

I love eternals back grounds and world building more tho that first mission design with the giants and worn down mechs it was amazing

[boreal sapphire]

yeah, doom 2016's environment is quite gritty

but I still love the game

[halcyon bear]

That's actually a reason alot of people prefer it

[harsh crow]

I just finished 2016... not the best end tbh

[hazy sphinx]

there is multiples

If I remember

2 ?

[wraith tangle]

what are they? I've never heard this mentioned before and only ever seen the one ending over several playthroughs

[solar mirage]

@trim mason I haven't played Doom 2016 multiplayer since 2019

Thanks for pointing it out that it's pretty much dead and all peeps migrated to Eternal

That means I can get a whole team and get trophies!

[halcyon bear]

There is only 1 ending. And it sets up eternal nicely

[wraith tangle]

what changes and from what?

[halcyon bear]

Sorry 1 lol

[atomic gazelle]

Honestly it makes somewhat sense and better then most modern game endings lol

[grizzled glen]

It does??

Thats odd as eternal completely ignores 2016s ending

[halcyon bear]

I said sets up

And it does. You don't do shit while earth is fucked

Perfectly set up

And you're odd. Andy

[grizzled glen]

I take back my statement and object to any new statements said by one gougaru

[halcyon bear]

lawyered

[slim tide]

ive been playing 2016 again after a lot of eternal and

wooowwwzers this game is buggy

[wraith tangle]

like what?

[slim tide]

im in foundry and i keep glitching into the lava after a glory kill

[wraith tangle]

f

[slim tide]

and getting caught on annoying micro ledges and stuff

[austere ravine]

Anyone down to do co op survival snap maps

Ps4

[halcyon bear]

Game hates you

[lilac sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/304334607182987274/1003577500892418078/unknown.png

awesome game, terrible achievements

[torpid dragon]

Cannae find a single multiplayer match on Switch, game's 1/5.

[solemn hollow]

I glitched like 2 or 3 times into a container in the lazarus labs

Still have no idea how

Would be so god damn sad if it happens to anyone on ultra nightmare

[atomic horizon]

I once ran into a glitch at the Foundry where I clipped through a wall upon doing a glory kill.

Curious, I walked through the out of bounds area but I just ended up falling to the void of death. (yes, not lava.)

[solemn hollow]

Huh

Perhaps its a thing in all maps

[halcyon bear]

I'd recommend trying to limit glory kills on un anyways

[atomic gazelle]

Only glory kill if you need too especially on ultra nightmare I can’t tell you how many times I got frame killed by an imp after a glory kill

[halcyon bear]

Exactly I mean more so because of this reason than clipping. Be aware of your enemy count and where they are if you really need to glory

[open fog]

i had a glitch in argent d'nur where i killed everything but music kept playing as if somebody was left alive

had to redo the part, I think some small enemy was clipped into one of the walls or something so i couldnt kill it

[cunning portal]

Can someone help me?

Am on top of the Bfg weapon container thing and I avoid the lasers be jumping to the side then what do I do?

[noble moat]

Shoot the lasers

There is a light on them

[cunning portal]

Okay I did it thanks

[elder meadow]

[cunning portal]

Just did the spider mastermind on hurt me plenty 1st time, the amount of adrenaline going through my blood right now is insane

[autumn junco]

I bizarrely enjoy using my pistol on enemies a lot... I feel like a massive jerk towards these enemies using it... it's almost comical

[grizzled glen]

Because annoying them is all it can do

[autumn junco]

Yeah... and it's just too funny for me to ignore doing

But I managed to get some good kills with it, because I am crazy enough to do it

[torpid dragon]

Yo so is this game's multiplayer dead on Switch?

[snow heron]

Like with all platforms really comes down to where you live and what time your playing. Some people hear play and Switch and I’ve seen people get together to play a few matches.

[fiery rivet]

So I’ve played 2 snap map levels where I play as demons. One was as the baron and the other was as the revenant. Are there levels where I can play as the other demons?

[boreal sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dSVXWSH11D0

[fringe lake]

Anyone up for some multiplayer?

[tardy apex]

fax tbh

[pale fossil]

I fucking hate cheaters

legit just. god why the hell do they need to cheat

[elder meadow]

i deleted my doom 2016 save file by accident (my first doom game) when i was just gonna finish it 😭

then i watched the ending on youtube so i knew what happened because my lazy ass couldnt restart the whole thing and moved on to eternal

[atomic gazelle]

Damn

My first play through was nightmare so this would of hurt a lot

[pale fossil]

rip. i feel for you

[ashen egret]

How hard is Ultra nightmare I plan on trying doom 2016 again

[molten hemlock]

Doom 2016 is epic I'm currently on necropolis

[wraith tangle]

it's identical to nightmare but if you die, it's game over. So if you're comfortable on NM, you have a decent shot at it

[ashen egret]

copy

[atomic gazelle]

After mission 6 the game is easy the hard part is the early levels

Also prepare for any glitch’s

Or ofc you’ll have to start off from the beginning again

[atomic gazelle]

1. To piss people off 2. They could be trash or 3. They have a mind set that they deserve wins for some reason

[halcyon bear]

There's a special place in hell for cheaters and scalpers

[atomic gazelle]

Smurfs are the worst

[bleak vortex]

Cyberdemon is the hardest boss in the game sue me

[round spindle]

FActual

But I’d have to replay 2016 and see how I feel

Hardest area tho is Kadingir Sanctum

[left lagoon]

idk who did vega's voice

but it's damn smooth

[formal forge]

Nah scalpers are

[vast wyvern]

hey, question, does anyone know how to fix this weird bug in Doom 2016 (also in eternal but rn im just trying to fix 2016) where, when you try to stream in onto discord it only picks up the audio but the entire screen is just black? ive tried everything and if i stream any other game on discord it works, just not doom

[open fog]

Best designed one too

[halcyon bear]

I feel the hell gaurds are a more fun fight. I mean if you don't spam ssg

[open fog]

I spammed rocket launcher for every boss fight in doom 2016 tbh

Shoot BFG 3 times, spam rocket launcher until it runs out, spam gauss cannon until it runs out, then ssg

I didn’t know about quick switching back then haha

[halcyon bear]

I barely used it also. I switched but the swaps were slow

[pale fossil]

I mean being honest on comp smurfs are worse there. but cheaters are more worse then scalpers and damn smurfs combined

Also I swear I hate it when you try to play a game of multiplayer and you get paired up with people who do their own thing and then other team just stays together and kills you over and over again because they can’t play like normal people and instead have to use each other to deal major damage

[halcyon bear]

Why it's good to have a few buddies to play with

[pale fossil]

Like I get it’s team play but NOBODY sticks together so what’s the damn point of even sticking together

Swear once I hit echolone 10 I’m done

Like I just had a game. Nobody stuck together. So it was actually fun rather then it being a sweat fest of people sticking together to chain damage

[halcyon bear]

[bitter leaf]

Hello can I someone help me with doom 2016?

[halcyon bear]

Yes my child

[bitter leaf]

the game stutters everytime it autosaves even though I have more then enough peformance to run it

[pale fossil]

settings? idk that's the only thing i can think of

[bitter leaf]

everything max

like it should be

[pale fossil]

i meant like change them

that's about the only thing i can honnestly think of that would make sense

[bitter leaf]

but my fps is 200

and 144 capped

and it doesnt drop anywhere except at autosaves

[waxen mason]

gonna attempt Ultra-Nightmare

wish me luck

[atomic gazelle]

Oh god

Well atleast after mission 6 you should be fine

Unless choke or glitch

Good luck

[wraith tangle]

keep your distance. Get accustomed to single jumping over the fireblade things. I like using explosive shot + rocket but really any weapon at range. That's the main thing for him. Being far. There's always the big bfg glitch if you want to cheese it

[atomic gazelle]

When he does tho slashes jump over the first and stay under the second

when he begins to dash move

He’ll combo his slash’s with missle hell all over the arena try and get to a safe location while avoiding

If he does a bullet hell on you with barriers on the side you can try and jump to mislead some or find gaps to go through

Also for me the best weapon to use was siege blast but you do you

Nice also what difficulty you playing on

I played nightmare on first play so idk how they scale on your difficulty but for me the next boss is easier and the last was harder

Hope you like invisible pinky’s

For me I have to utilize the weak spot or I’m dead (nightmare) also the imps in nightmare are no longer fodder lmao

In nightmare one fireball is like 1/4 of your health in end game

In the start 1/2 iirc

Or sorry 1/6 in end game

It’s not it’s just when you do it sucks

Also cocademons and pinky’s do almost all your health

In nightmare their aggression is actually terrifying

Ikr I have to do a full on seige blast just to get rid of them on eternal you just chuck a explosive in their mouth

It is you insta kill them

Also just some to say eternal forces you to use everything instead of just ssg soloing and the chainsaw is no longer a get out of fight free card it’s literally nesscary for ammo

[untold stirrup]

Hello everyone

[untold stirrup]

Yeah, a pinky once ended a good recording of HUDLess Titan's Realm

[atomic gazelle]

I was kinda guilty for doing ssg soloing and eternal in nightmare forced me to be more optimal or I die immediately

[atomic gazelle]

Yeah one choke on a pinky could be life or death

Also I played nightmare first in both games because dark souls has taught me to be a masochist

[untold stirrup]

Pinkies can do well over 100 damage

[atomic gazelle]

Probably like 140 or something

Or 160

[untold stirrup]

Yeah, same with cacos

[atomic gazelle]

Cacos are worse imo

I got sniped so hard by one before

[untold stirrup]

I can just precision bolt their eyes in 1 shot, and if I miss then a few shotgun shots will take care of them

[atomic gazelle]

I hated them so much that when I played eternal I always knew where they were even tho their like 50x easier now

[untold stirrup]

Favorite rune setups and mods?

[atomic gazelle]

For 2016 I basically chose everything on the right side

But my favourite mod is either siege blast or sticky bomb

[untold stirrup]

Remote detonation is my favorite, maybe besides precision bolt

[atomic gazelle]

Um iirc my rune set up was in flight mobility armour for glory kill and the rich get richer

[untold stirrup]

I do Savagery, SaD, and Ammo Boost

Aggressive playstyle and lots of quickswapping, so glory kills and increased chainsaw ammo to compensate

[atomic gazelle]

Fun fact i always changed my rune set up when I got beserk

[untold stirrup]

Same lmao

[atomic gazelle]

It has to be one of the most op things in doom besides bfg

[untold stirrup]

Or remote detonation

Seriously, that mod is busted

Or seige

I don't really like seige's huge damage output so I opt for PB instead

[halcyon bear]

Remote detonation is great. Love that thing. And it's satisfying to use

[atomic gazelle]

I used siege for everything lol it’s mastery made it op imo

Not as much as sticky bomb tho

I used sticky bomb more then I probably of should

[untold stirrup]

Can 1 shot a Hell Knight, which means over 2000 damage

[halcyon bear]

Rich get richer.. sinner

[untold stirrup]

Lock-On is certainly useful for starting quickswap chains, but overall I prefer RD

[halcyon bear]

I honestly don't use lock on much anymore. The swap doesn't mean much for me

[atomic gazelle]

I only used it for like two mission before I switched it because I sucked after those missions but tbf it’s the games fault for implementing it

[untold stirrup]

RGR is part of the busted rune setup

[halcyon bear]

Absolutely lol

[untold stirrup]

Wanna walk through the game? Equip RGR, Equipment Power, and Ammo Boost

Free BFG ammo, free armor, free seige

[atomic gazelle]

Yeah after mission 6 the game got too easy it’s just I still got hit a lot because they be spamming like 50 heavy’s at that point

[halcyon bear]

At this point when I do my recorded un run I won't be touching any of those. Last thing I want is people shitting on my run

[untold stirrup]

Ammo Boost is fine to me if you don't use the BFG which I certainly don't

[atomic gazelle]

This is to true at Vega processing

[untold stirrup]

But seriously, whose idea is it to make demons drop bfg ammo

You literally encounter tens of demons in each arena, and it doesn't matter what class of demon they are

Shoot the bfg, get your ammo back, shoot it again

[atomic gazelle]

Yeah they went a bit too hay wire, in eternal they take that way down

[atomic gazelle]

Just checkpoint load kill zombies

[untold stirrup]

SaD seems to be equally busted in Eternal as well

[atomic gazelle]

Ssg is also a bit busted with mastery

[halcyon bear]

Fucking genius right? I mean I guess they didn't know if players were ready for this pace and speed.. I mean people were just playing cover shooters

Also explains why nightmare is a bit jank early game

[atomic gazelle]

I died 30 times in the beginning area and I was debating if this game was gonna be to hard on nightmare litteraly a day later and I’m on mission 5

[untold stirrup]

True tbh

It was years of CoD, 2016 was literally a slap in the face

[atomic gazelle]

Nah a glory kill in the intestines

[wraith tangle]

the best part about rem det for me isn't the damage stacking with the mastery(I couldn't even master anything other than ssg in my UN run), but rather the easy kills on imps

[exotic quiver]

wtf how do you beat UN without mastering your guns

that's like such a huge help

by mid kadingir sanctum I already have at least 2 weapons mastered

[neon kestrel]

guys how do I do the objective where you kill a Mancubus with the pistol

[noble moat]

You shoot him with the pistol charged shots

Better to try once its in glory kill state

[neon kestrel]

I paired it with the gauss and siphon grenade
it worked out

[untold stirrup]

You can also use quad damage

[atomic gazelle]

Mastery ssg with quad is too op for this world

[neon kestrel]

I'm glad they changed the Mastery in Eternal
it's too op and it's weird that the barrels shoot individually, taking away what makes it super

[atomic gazelle]

I mean honestly ssg in eternal is also kinda broken

Like vast movement with it and armour

[untold stirrup]

made a dumb comment, sorry for the ping Ves

[neon kestrel]

das alright
I just never complete the SSG

[exotic quiver]

I never use SSG in 2016, mostly because it's in a diagonal slot of the weapon wheel and every time I try to equip it, I end up equipping combat shotgun instead, weapon wheel in 2016 sucks ass

[neon kestrel]

it helps you cheese the Cyderdemon and Mastermind though

[exotic quiver]

rem det does the job well enough against those already so there really isn't a need for it

[sharp karma]

Do people still play the multi-player doom 2016 bc I really wanna play it bc I know it's way more fun then doom eternal multi-player

?

[exotic quiver]

I think some people still play it but I'm not sure in which platform

[sharp karma]

I play xbox

[neon kestrel]

switch on both games are beyond dead

[sharp karma]

Oof

Eternal on xbox is popular

2016 is not which is sad

[halcyon bear]

It ain't that bad. But definitely better in eternal

[torpid dragon]

Can confirm, Switch multiplayer does not exist.

[neon kestrel]

Im pained by the fact because I want the unlockables in Doom 16 multiplayer

[torpid dragon]

Yeah same here.

[neon kestrel]

Why is quick swapping in this game so broken

[wraith tangle]

broken as in powerful or broken as in you find the wheel to be jank?

[neon kestrel]

Powerful

[wraith tangle]

honestly no clue if it is even intended

[torpid dragon]

Maybe we could get a Switch group together sometime to work on the multiplayer achievements?

If enough people here play it that is.

[neon kestrel]

That's an amazing idea

[sharp karma]

Does anyone know the average time to find a match on xbox now days?

[sharp karma]

Is it just me or a bunch of people revisting doom 2016

[molten hemlock]

Hey folks! I have a question
Who are the night sentinels?

[noble moat]

The opposite of the day sentinels

[waxen mason]

https://c.tenor.com/nLWeHUhYIXIAAAAM/obama-what.gif

[molten hemlock]

No in the lore

I'm trying to get into the doom lore so yeah

[halcyon bear]

Quick swap definitely wanted intended. They just wanted people to have the ability to switch from one weapon to the other quickly so it wouldn't effect pace

[noble moat]

Check #doom-eternal pins

@elder meadow made an entire comprehensive lore book on all of doom

Whoops didnt mean to tag

[elder meadow]

:^D

Definitely check out the lore guide.

[molten hemlock]

Ok

[sharp karma]

Anyone on xbox search for a xbox game on team deathmatch?

[pale fossil]

wait switch doom has achviments?

or am i reading that out of line

[winged nova]

im not sure if the switch has achievements, because ive never even seen one in a game

[pale fossil]

i mean doom 2016 has challenges

but i've never heard of a switch game having achviments

[winged nova]

yeah

but also i dont even have any doom game on switch so it could just be doom

[pale fossil]

doom as in og doom?

[winged nova]

no

just any doom

[pale fossil]

oh

[abstract sage]

Is there any hope for some moderation regarding cheating in Doom 2016 multiplayer?

Perhaps third-party dedicated servers with anti-cheat? Or at least actually banning cheaters?

[noble moat]

Considering it’s a 6 year old game

No

I’m sure you can still report them to Bethesda and they will get banned, but since it’s so old they will just make new accounts and come back

[abstract sage]

If only Bethesda or Steam would ban them, at least temporarily. We've have a collective complaint (https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/3417685728358049469/) going on Steam, with video evidence, and nothing has really been done.

While Bethesda did reply to emails, they didn't really do anything

Which is why it would be interesting to have a non-Steam/Bethesda service for matchmaking

[halcyon bear]

Cheating sucks... but ya.. no one's going to stop them

[exotic quiver]

damn, cheaters on multiplayer? that's pathetic

[vagrant halo]

Cringe

[hearty pagoda]

How hard would it be to map weapons directly to buttons for console like doom eternal did? It would make for a much better experience and I really wish that they would do that

[wraith tangle]

Eternal only did it a few days ago. There is next to no chance that 2016 gets another update and modding console is more effort than it's worth.

[sharp karma]

Anyone now how to level up to get more stuff bc my stuff restarted on xbox and I'm trying to find match but I can't any other way to level up?

I have 10 friends that have it if that's helps

[noble moat]

Then you should all be searching for games at the same time

To get into matches

[sharp karma]

Sp don't invite them to the game then matchmake, just matchmake with them in all separate stuff and what mode should I do free for all?

[noble moat]

Doesn’t matter

As long as you get hella kills

And make sure you use uh i think its the bounty rune

Or something

There is something you can equip that gives 100bonus exp per kill

[sharp karma]

I wish I was level 4 still haha

Anyone wanna play doom multiplayer on xbox later??? Just dm me

[exotic quiver]

Rather than button mapping, I would really like to see an option that lets customize the time the weapon wheel takes to pop off like in eternal

That would make a huge difference

It bothers me how long it takes to open the wheel in 2016 to swap a weapon from there

[halcyon bear]

Got a controller with back paddles. Going to try and get used to them but if I do it'll be a game changer

[exotic quiver]

How would back paddles be of any help for console 2016?

[halcyon bear]

I use tactical and can jump to a paddle for one. You no longer have to readjust aim you can now jump shoot and move without ever moving your fingers. Same goes for mapping weapon wheel

After that you still have 2 more free paddles to bind anything you want

[exotic quiver]

Well, that sounds pretty convenient

Let me know how it goes

[halcyon bear]

It's going to be some work for the muscle memory but I'll get it done

[devout mist]

This game seriously needs a revival. Mp is borderline unplayable (if not because of the fact the game is dead then because of the awful servers), snapmap isn't even half finished (also suffers from horrendous servers), sp has some serious bugs that amazingly were never fixed, etc.

[halcyon bear]

I've had the game since launch. Never had any serious bugs in single player. But that being said. I've seen and heard some horror stories about them

[devout mist]

It's certainly not nearly as much of a glitchfest as eternal but it's still pretty bad

[exotic quiver]

During my last UN run I had a horrible issue when interacting with the rune trials where I got stucked in the menu that lets you access the challenge

That shit was so weird

You couldnt start the trial and you couldnt exit the menu either so I had to close the app

The worst part is that after launching the game again, it would take me back to almost the beginning of the mission when previously I was next to finishing it

And that happened twice

[exotic quiver]

2016 is waaaaay glitchier than eternal, trust me

[devout mist]

Yeah... I won't trust you. Core mechanics like the chainsaw and blood punch don't even work half the time you use them lmao

[exotic quiver]

They work a 95% of the time for me

And even if they dont, that's nothing compared to clipping through the ground and dying after doing a GK like in 2016

[sharp karma]

Both games are good guys?

Sooooo

[halcyon bear]

💯

[devout mist]

Because that definitely doesn't happen in that game too, huh.

[sharp karma]

Shut up they are both the best games like damn

[halcyon bear]

They aren't saying they don't like it. Just some issues they had

[sharp karma]

Ik

[devout mist]

Boo-hoo, I'm rightfully criticizing a game

[halcyon bear]

There's nothing wrong with valid criticism. People that come in and say game bad without any reason are a different story

[sharp karma]

Ye

[untold stirrup]

I mean, both games have faults, and their good sides

End of story

[exotic quiver]

you don't get insta-killed by fall damage in eternal tho?

[devout mist]

You get soft locked which is arguably worse😐

[exotic quiver]

close app and restart from the latest checkpoint?

how's that worse than having to start over from the beginning because you died?

[devout mist]

And if you die simply load from last checkpoint?

[exotic quiver]

you never played UN, did you?

[devout mist]

Only if you're playing on UN which won't be often

[wraith tangle]

Dying on other difficulties is barely better since the reload save times in d2016 take decades

[devout mist]

Waiting 30 seconds truly is just as bad as losing hours of progress

[exotic quiver]

< literally had that glitch happening three times in a row when trying to beat UN

yeah

it won't be often

fair enough I guess lol

[devout mist]

Hard to believe when the closest thing to that that's happened to me is glitching into a crate that I was able to just walk out of after years of playing the game on and off

[wraith tangle]

most UN deaths are 30 s in anyway lamo

[halcyon bear]

^

[unborn tapir]

Wow after playing Doom eternal I need to realize Doom 2016 has no dash

I keep pressing circle in the air because I'm way too used to dashing in the air to dodge projectiles and I almost got killed for it