#doom-3
acoustic acorn
chad move is playing through d3, RoE and Lost Mission and not knowing who that is
half plank
???
how could you forget sarge? he talks to you for a good portion of the main campaign and is ||even a boss||
vernal crest
Someone once said that it was because "some people couldn't tell a difference between him and Campbell"
half plank
wha-
vernal crest
I dunno how, minus the same and the hair color, they don't look alike
half plank
lmao
vernal crest
But he's the damage
Exactly
half plank
its weird though, they made campbell's armor green too
vernal crest
I guess some people thought that it should've been green or something, I dunno.
supple sierra
how could you forget sarge? he talks to you for a good portion of the main campa...
why would anyone care so much about some a**hole? and a boss? nah. more like heavier enemy... he can be killed at least in 10 seconds
supple sierra
ive killed him in less than 10 seconds
I missed to write at least 😅
half plank
so apparently the word a**hole is too much for the server now. alright. 👍
scenic stratus
Yea I hate that
I’m pretty sure 13 year olds say these type of words all the time
half plank
the 13 year olds keep getting banned for saying worse
scenic stratus
Fr
half plank
what i was gonna say is that sarge may be a [removed] and a poor excuse for a boss, but he's our [deleted] and a poor excuse for a boss
scenic stratus
Sarge is cool
scenic stratus
Lemme try something too ass
scenic stratus
Where
half plank
in one of the pda emails
slate gulch
Dunno how that would be an appeal when its the same exact thing over and over
half plank
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half plank
clearly the guy who received the email
scenic stratus
That guy was definitely sent to the deepest part of hell
scenic stratus
Ayo?
half plank
doom after dark
hidden mirage
So this is why doomguy doesnt speak now i got it
simple arrow
Hey Guys! I covered Tweaker from Doom 3 with an Orchestral Twist!
I am sure you will love this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuekpbmJuAM
slim willow
Nice
honest lynx
The banger !
vernal crest
never forget that doom 3 mentions clone porn
I find it kinda weird how some words are censored and some aren't
supple sierra
I’m pretty sure 13 year olds say these type of words all the time
It's kinda lame tbh. when you're young (12-13) you're a walking dictaphone that records anything and then runs around mindlessly repeating anything you heard without thinking what you say) (if someone didn't do that that's ok. I'm talking only about dumbass behavior)
supple sierra
lemme try something:
fuck
well that's werid. i wrote a curseword sometimeago and it was ato-censored... 🤨
livid wharf
Yes. You’ll need a Bethesda.com account to connect them though
desert wasp
I do have one
So is there any like special way to connect them
Like theres notging inside the game or i gotta connect my steam account
livid wharf
I think you just need to log in through both games and you should be good
desert wasp
I did this i prob need more play time
Also my brother owns doom enternal i got it trough family share i got the first 2 skins tho
livid wharf
If that didn’t work then IDK
desert wasp
And i like bought doom 3
versed estuary
Doom 3 on steam has no Bethesda connection
desert wasp
Doom 3 on steam has no Bethesda connection
🤨
So does that mean i dont get the slayer skin
desert wasp
@honest lynx i can still refund
livid wharf
I recommend giving Doom 3 itself a go. It’s good and extremely unique
desert wasp
I mean i am gonna play the game but i want the skin too why to miss out on this feture
I first bought the game itself but than i tought about the skin like the first 100 minjtes if playtime
livid wharf
Fair enough
desert wasp
The first 11 minutes it blackscreened i fixed it
I tiught it was the version of proton i used now i use the latest one
vernal crest
Sad truth
rose field
well that's werid. i wrote a curseword sometimeago and it was ato-censored... 🤨
i think only shit and fuck are allowed
slim willow
And i like bought doom 3
BFG Edition or OG
vital nymph
ayo
slim willow
Yeah you would get the Eternal skin with the Bethesda.net version that's available on Microsoft store/Xbox app
desert wasp
Bro i use linux
I need to use the bethesda launcher
Better than the epic games launcher
vernal crest
apparently, the woman who voiced Theresa also voices Vicky in The Fairly OddParents. Safe to say that if I see clips with Vicky I'll now think of the woman who cried in her office and got turned into a lost soul
honest lynx
Head pop
vernal crest
well Vicky does try to make some heads pop
desert wasp
Based Linux user
I use linux cuz my pc failed to install windows now i like it more
Less microsoft bloatware but comes at a cost
Less compatable
Whit like everything but that bas its pluses
dull wigeon
I wish Doom 3 had explored more the concept of monster infight, rather than be a basic mechanic like the classic this could have been used to show there's different levels in the hell hierarchy and some demons (like the more primitive ones) always show a hostile behavior to others except the smarter demons.
For example:
-Zombies and Z-Secs being at the buttom of the list are hunted and attacked by beast type demons like Pinkies and Maggots (something like that iconic scene from the alpha).
-The smart demons of hell army mostly ignore former humans, but they won't hesitate to kill them if they are accidentally attacked in the crossfire.
-Trites being spider like creatures catch other plague demons in their webs, especially Cherubs, Lost Souls and other flying things. I imagine zombies can be other easy prey to them.
-HellKnights, Mancubus and Bruiser can eliminate other low rank demons as Imps if they are in their way to kill the marine. However they shouldn't do this to other high tier as Revenants and Arch-Viles.
vernal crest
Eh, I dunno 
I mean, anything story related was mostly cut because Tim said that it was "too much story", so it wouldn't surprise me if the writers wanted to actually explore it but couldn't
slate gulch
The demons do have ranks for infighting in Doom 3. An imp that gets hurt by a hell knight won't do anything about it but a hell knight that gets hit by an imp will kill it
The enemies have a Rank number in their stats
dull wigeon
I know infight exist in the game, the problem is you barely will see this happen in the main campaign.
Is a problem of how maps are design and the low enemy count
scenic stratus
well, i've just finished Splinter Cell: Blacklist
congrats, bro! (me)
acoustic acorn
to be fair, there is a hierarchy system of sorts in classic. Pain elementals and archviles will never be targets of infighting. Archies will switch targets 100 % of the time when hit rather than caring about maintaining target. Lost souls forget their targets. Hitscanners will infight everything which makes sense as the low tier zombies. Barons and knights don't fight each other at all.
honest lynx
I wish Doom 3 had explored more the concept of monster infight, rather than be a...
I always tossed it up to betruger having control over them and giving them order while he was around
vernal crest
that would make sense, but yeah demons do sometimes hit eachother which causes some epic battles of 2145 ||I'm not sorry 
||
scenic stratus
cosmic portal
is doom 3 a great game?
what rating do yall give it
and is my pc going to run it
on max graphics
vernal crest
yeah Doom 3 is a great game, and it probably will, although there's always this thing (which I forgot the name of 
) that you can download to properly run Doom 3
pseudo token
what rating do yall give it
yes it is great and about an 8.5/10 probably
remote pollen
For DOOM 3: BFG Edition on Xbox 360, is the versions of Ultimate DOOM and DOOM II the Xbox LIVE Arcade versions or are they different versions entirely? I'm looking to get them for extra Gamerscore as they've now been delisted from the MS Store
half plank
For DOOM 3: BFG Edition on Xbox 360, is the versions of Ultimate DOOM and DOOM I...
they are the xbox live arcade versions, yes
half plank
what rating do yall give it
I give it a solid A-
remote pollen
they are the xbox live arcade versions, yes
great to know, thanks a lot! :D
vernal crest
I give it a solid A-
half plank
In my heart however it is a perfect gem and I would give my life protecting its honor.
honest lynx
is doom 3 a great game?
It's fantastic
dense fulcrum
ok guys since there is the steam summer sale i wanted to know if i should buy doom 3 bfg edition. i remember years ago me and my dad played the classic games with bdg edition together and the console that had it broke. i want to buy it for good memories but is doom 3 good?
livid wharf
Doom 3 is good but imo the vanilla version is the better option than BFG edition
dense fulcrum
why is that?
livid wharf
BFG edition significantly reduced the difficulty for no good reason (Doom 3 wasn’t exactly hard to begin with) and isn’t compatible with modding like the original release
Also the original release is a fourth of the price and even with the DLC added is less than half the BFG Edition cost
vernal crest
Someone also made the LM mod in case you wanted to play it
half plank
BFG makes it way easier and cuts out content. This is especially noticable in the Resurrection of Evil expansion where entire rooms are missing for some reason. Also you can't skip cutscenes for some reason. You cannot skip cutscenes, in a Doom game.
Buy the original and either load up dhewm3 or use the really good enhanced edition mod.
pseudo token
True true
half plank
original nightmare is actually hard 
honest lynx
original nightmare is actually hard <:HappyGuy:733610864363700224>
Original nightmare is basically unplayable
Left that part out. BFGs superior movement ability makes nightmare a legitimate difficulty someone would enjoy doing
No one wants to hobble around with a flashlight
half plank
Original nightmare is basically unplayable
weak
honest lynx
Yeah it is weak
honest lynx
I have og doom. Don't play it. Bfg nightmare is just better
versed estuary
I mean i dont even play nightmare
half plank
absolutely incorrect. sorry man just go back to vr edition or something
honest lynx
Bfg is made for a faster pace bfg complements that
versed estuary
I did it once for all the expansions and that was about it. I usually stick with veteran
half plank
original 3 is significantly better in almost every way. bfg is piss easy baby shit
pseudo token
Original nightmare is basically unplayable
Bfg nightmare is too easy, doom³ original nightmare is great
Playing on anything lower makes the game way less tense and scary
honest lynx
Bfg nightmare is better. You can't have your cake and eat it to. " I love og doom 3 because the pace and atmosphere is ruined in bfg" also you. The fast paced nightmare is better with og...
Just stop lol
half plank
when was the last time you played og nightmare? 2005?
honest lynx
Whats with the attitude Gougaru
No I'm not mad. I'm just saying nightmare plays better on bfg for all the reason og fans complain about
versed estuary
Nightmare plays better on nightmare 👀 this is true
pseudo token
Bfg nightmare is better. You can't have your cake and eat it to. " I love og do...
Pace and attitude is ruined because you can just zoom through everything. In og nightmare its fast but you also die quickly. Different kinds of pace
half plank
ive played the original version's nightmare multiple times and its fine. ammos already plentiful and the marine isnt exactly grandpa joe in speed
honest lynx
Pace and attitude is ruined because you can just zoom through everything. In og ...
The reason for nightmare is being fast paced because you need to go room to room clearing it fast. Stumbling around dying every room with a flashlight just doesn't seem fun to me
But hey if that's what you enjoy go for it
half plank
its as easy as pressing the f key a few times to see where you are. why is that difficult
versed estuary
Hmmm why are you using the flashlight though
pseudo token
We're not dying in every room bro thats you 😭
half plank
its a crucial part of the gameplay loop they cut out
versed estuary
Doesn’t OG have muzzle flash lighting
honest lynx
We're not dying in every room bro thats you 😭
You're an idiot
half plank
hes right
pseudo token
You're an idiot
I mean true
honest lynx
I literally beat nightmare 10 times when you learned to tie your shoes
half plank
ok
honest lynx
Just bumble stumble with the atmosphere and I'll run and gun champ
versed estuary
Maybe not too much running. Wouldn’t wanna hurt yourself
honest lynx
Right? Burn I guess
versed estuary
Wasn’t a burn?
honest lynx
Also no here is saying OG isn't better. It definitely is by a mile. I just personally feel the way bfg is makes nightmare more fun
half plank
I think you have a point. But I am also motivated to do saveless original nightmare now on camera.
honest lynx
I think you have a point. But I am also motivated to do saveless original nightm...
I'd try it with you if it had any sort of controller support
half plank
it does not which is stupid
versed estuary
Thank the steamdeck for its controller support
versed estuary
Stick with VR
honest lynx
You're not wrong. Not sure how I ll like it now
half plank
VR is just too good
honest lynx
VR is just too good
That's the problem. Dude. Nightmare VR is insane. I actually broke out into a sweat
versed estuary
Gotta wear that Deo
honest lynx
Hahaha no joke
versed estuary
Quite a few VR things i wanna do, they look fun
The actual body bobbing and weaving sounds fun
honest lynx
Surprisingly shooting around corners is my favorite thing
restive delta
I don't want to stoke any BFG vs original fires, just interested in what actually changed between the game when people are suggesting the pacing is different. Is movement speed actually faster on BFG? Or is it just that the additional ammo makes it faster?
versed estuary
Fire stoked. Get the pitchforks
We going hunting
So from my understanding
BFG is brighter overal. And base movment speed is faster
restive delta
I mean, I've played both, but I haven't played the original for quite a while so I honestly wouldn't recall a difference in movement speed. But for sure I did a run of RoE on BFG not long ago without using the Artifact, and there were definitely elements that changed, like the bosses seemed to have reduced health, plus more ammo helped of course without the Artifact abilities
versed estuary
More ammo and health everywhere
Also in BFG a metric ass ton of monsters were cut
As much as 40-50monsters a level
As well as quite a good chunk of segments were cut
Some segments i think i heard were brought back in lost mission? But no all
Also og doom 3 has more arcade games than just turkey puncher. Bfg only has turkey
restive delta
I had no idea about monster cuts, I didn't actually play the base campaign on BFG yet 
versed estuary
I havent played base game yet but these were all things I found out. The monster cuts alone would make sense at moments i felt were a little empty
restive delta
Oh yeah, the arcade games being cut in RoE BFG sucks. Plus they removed the air canister requirement in that toxic section. And removed the blue fog area from hell
Interesting with the monster cuts since I didn't really notice in RoE I must say. So if it's a big difference in the base game that's pretty crazy
honest lynx
I don't want to stoke any BFG vs original fires, just interested in what actuall...
We re all friends it's just friendly banter
versed estuary
The slightly faster movement does help let you rush up with the shotgun a bit better thats for sure
restive delta
Now I'm tempted to play the base campaign on BFG. I remember the original fairly well so it'll be interesting
versed estuary
I believe one of the biggest cuts is like number of cacos
Lemme see if i can find the list
restive delta
I do enjoy a bit of strafe jumping with the sprint these days 
I never used to do that back in the day though, so I guess I wouldn't notice movement speed
scenic stratus
is doom 3 a great game?
no, it’s not
scenic stratus
what rating do yall give it
very bad game bro, 2 of 10
livid wharf
I think it’s pretty good despite its problems. As for spec requirements, Doom 3 released in 2004 so your computer should be fine
half plank
unless you gaming on that 50 dollar laptop
wraith pumice
the chainsaw is so powerful that it can penetrate through the shield of those Riot Shield Troopers
Riot Shield Troopers are those Z-Sec variants that use a pistol and are equipped with a shield
they are so rare that they are absent in the original xbox version
dull wigeon
Does D3 Revenant feels a bit weak despite being considered a high rank enemy? He's really slow, his rockets don't inflict so much damage and they're kinda easy to avoid.
And I don't even counting how the plasma rifle is a hard counter to them.
versed estuary
On what difffutly?
dull wigeon
Veteran
versed estuary
Their rockets do quite a bit of damage
You might be getting lucky and only getting hit with one at a time
But do keep in mind in this universe the technology is different so the rocket launchers are a tad weaker in general
It’s usually why they try to send 2-3 revs at once
Revs are also more mid rank
High would be archviles, bruisers, hellknights, mancs
acoustic acorn
I found them harder to avoid than doom2 revs. didn't know that chainsaw beats shields though
versed estuary
If you use plasma rifle u can shoot rockets out of the air
dull wigeon
It’s usually why they try to send 2-3 revs at once
Just think on how D3 could have been if Revenant rockets has the homing capacity of quake Vore proyectiles
acoustic acorn
If you use plasma rifle u can shoot rockets out of the air
I still found that only so so consistent, and not quite as viable against many of them, unless I just miss a lot
versed estuary
U wanna try aiming slightly above the rocket
dull wigeon
the chainsaw is so powerful that it can penetrate through the shield of those Ri...
The chainsaw also can penetrate your armor, when is used by zombies
The drain your health but not your armor
acoustic acorn
U wanna try aiming slightly above the rocket
the famous hitboxes of doom
acoustic acorn
The drain your health but not your armor
I barely notice armor ever do anything
dull wigeon
Yeah that's totally awful lol.
But still interesting how the chainsaw in particular ignores the armor
wraith pumice
the dhewm3 source port is probably the best way to play Doom 3 (at least not including vr)
good old Doom 3 with bug fixes, proper support for widescreen resolutions and without BFG Edition changes
supple gull
Armor is useless in vanilla Doom 3
final pier
Doom 3 flashlight and get horror game but it's still very good like oh my god the graphics of that time, that is doom 3 right ? xD sorry
scenic stratus
What
half plank
Doom 3 flashlight and get horror game but it's still very good like oh my god th...
The graphics are really good
versed estuary
Gougaru in the mountains explaining to a moose how vr is better
half plank
the moose waiting for him to finish so it can maul him
scenic stratus
Vr doom 3 is best doom 3
i prefer Need For Speed Underground
scenic stratus
Armor is useless in vanilla Doom 3
depends on difficulty level
honest lynx
i prefer Need For Speed Underground
Bad taste
honest lynx
depends on difficulty level
No it doesn't lol
restive delta
Armour is useless compared to what? It actually functions almost exactly the same as the green armour in classic Doom
But yes if you're used to 2016 and Eternal you might feel like it's "useless" because you're used to stacking on raw hit points
acoustic acorn
Armour is useless compared to what? It actually functions almost exactly the sam...
I read the wiki page on it and it says that it's the same as classic green armor. But the thing seems to lose hit points way more slowly. Is that just..."stuff deals damage slower"?
restive delta
Well yes, it will be relative to how much damage enemies actually deal. And the difference there is classic Doom values change via the numbers table. I think Doom 3 values are static. But I never really felt that damage levels are excessive in Doom 3, beyond enemies that have a high rate of fire, or knockback the player making it harder to aim.
acoustic acorn
yeah damage was relatively low. The main thing that gave me trouble were jump scare monsters at doorways but that was just a health tax, not like it kills
vernal crest
also, I heard that the Marine appears armorless in the cutscene if he doesn't have any armor on, just wondering if this is true
honest lynx
also, I heard that the Marine appears armorless in the cutscene if he doesn't ha...
No. Not true. Also mirrors in doom 3 are a thing.
vernal crest
yeah Ik they exist, just wondering since I saw someone mention that 
restive delta
You'll notice he (always?) has the shotgun in cutscenes too, despite what you previously had selected.
vernal crest
yeah, he's very fond of it 
, although in the cutscene where he retrieves the transmission-card-thingy and in the hellknights cutscene he has the machine gun
an of course when he meets Ishi (I think that's his name) he has a pistol, but it makes sense considering it's the only thing they gave him
restive delta
Yeah, would be funny to have a shotgun then before you even get it
vernal crest
"Marine, since you're the ranking FNG, it means that you don't get any cool guns until otherwise stated."
scenic stratus
No it doesn't lol
hmm normally when i play veteran, armor almost doesn’t play any role
can’t remember offhand, it’s not the case with recruit difficulty?
honest lynx
I play doom 3 VR nightmare these days and in that case it's basically nothing
half plank
armor is meaningless
vernal crest
armor is just there to make the Doom Marine look less buffer, while also making me question why he was given a different armor
acoustic acorn
armor is meaningless
do you know why it's worth less when the doomwiki says it's essentially the same as doom1/2
half plank
I think he was just assigned to some basic shit jobs because someone needed to do em. Even sarge calls you a ranking "FNG" (Fucking New Guy). I mean he's given the basic stock armor in the shittiest part of mars.
half plank
do you know why it's worth less when the doomwiki says it's essentially the same...
it just isn't good? if you're max armor and max health by the time you die you'll have like 70 armor points. its absurd
acoustic acorn
yeah so what's happening with it? Doomwiki says that it's 30 % protection. Maybe with the amount of damage that enemies do, 30 % ends up rounding down to way less. Like if you take a 10 damage hit, this'll only take 2 damage since floor(0.3 * 10) = 2
half plank
the math works but in game it doesnt. i have no clue why but its shit
vernal crest
I think he was just assigned to some basic shit jobs because someone needed to d...
true 
||imagine having a military training and all that only to end up doing shitty and basic jobs that anyone could've done, the dude's lucky to have a demonic invasion happened||
half plank
if you removed armor entirely i dont think anyone would notice
acoustic acorn
it's like green armor only protects 1 health point when in 5 damage lava
livid wharf
Green armor frankly doesn’t help that much in Classic Doom either. Blue armor is common enough to mitigate that, though
acoustic acorn
Hey, it helps. But the difference between green and blue is pretty big
livid wharf
Yup
33% is substantially less than 50%
Also I think the armor coverage rounds down if it doesn’t go evenly
vernal crest
I've noticed that whenever something hits you on the either head or legs, you get damaged while the armor cag get untouched, but when hit in the chest the armor gets damaged more
livid wharf
Huh. That’s really interesting
hard wolf
Ive seen pros not use armor when they see it mainly because then the less damaged taken will be lower
I was mainly talking about classic dooms, even though its doom 3 i just wanted to point that out
acoustic acorn
Also I think the armor coverage rounds down if it doesn’t go evenly
yep
acoustic acorn
I've noticed that whenever something hits you on the either head or legs, you ge...
post a video of that if you can
livid wharf
Oh yeah Decino mentioned that in his armor video
supple gull
Being a marine on Mars must be the easiest money ever.
wraith pumice
decided to finish Lost Mission in one go yesterday, it took me 1 hour and 30 minutes
it was a lot of fun
Lost Mission is like the Blue Shift of Doom 3. It barely has any new things unlike the previous expansion and is very short, but it's enjoyable and is good for killing time
restive delta
Yeah Lost Mission is great, short but action packed, and a good balance having some elements from both base Doom 3 and RoE
scenic stratus
Just started it
And one question, is the guy in the beginning doom marine guy?
And is he the same as in doom 2016 or are these different doom guys
vernal crest
the Marine in Doom 3 is a different person, apparently the Doomguy from classic games is the same character from Doom 4 and Eternal (which I'm.... not too fond of), but they're all pretty much badasses
restive delta
Yeah Doom 3 marine is supposed to be a different timeline from the others. Particularly that in terms of actual dates it doesn't make sense, since Doom 2016 is set only a few years after Doom 3 I think, judging by the codex entries.
honest lynx
true <:MarauderSad:794067901962780682>
||imagine having a military training and ...
As someone who had a brother with a job with the army that's how it always is
vernal crest
they've had demonic invasions happened at army? hmm 
honest lynx
Probably
restive delta
and modern Doom isn't really suppost to have a date
Considering how much detail they added to the 2016 codex, I believe it's very much supposed to have a date. I think there were even dates on some of the interactive panels in game.
But anyway the point was supposed to be that those dates conflict with the setting of Doom 3 which also suggests it's not part of the same game universe or whatever one likes to call it. Beyond I believe the devs have said in interviews it's not supposed to be related
vernal crest
almost every Doom game takes place in a different universe since multiverse is a thing (as they confirmed that every mod is canon now), from the first Doom game to Doom 64 it was in the same universe, Doom 4 and Eternal take place in a different universe but the Doomguy is the same guy as the classic protagonist
honest lynx
almost every Doom game takes place in a different universe since multiverse is a...
Yeah that's confirmed
slim willow
can’t remember offhand, it’s not the case with recruit difficulty?
Recruit is ultimate baby mode
Not even being an elitist that shit is ridiculously easy
versed estuary
U can more or less just flashlight bonk
slim willow
U can more or less just flashlight bonk
BFG Edition:
versed estuary
They can just walk past
slim willow
How rare are these nowadays
I did see these were sold back then on the wayback machine
scenic stratus
For how much?
slim willow
For how much?
Back then or now?
scenic stratus
Back then
slim willow
Let me check again
Damn i can't find that page anymore
But i assume it was average price
livid wharf
Is Doom 3 on PS4 the vanilla version or BFG edition?
versed estuary
Is Doom 3 on PS4 the vanilla version or BFG edition?
Ps4 would be the rerelease bfg edition
Which is bfg without the classic dooms
livid wharf
Okay thanks.
A code for it came with my copy of 2016 (Slayer’s Collection) and figured it may be a good way to play Lost Mission rather than figure out Dhewm3 (I was unable to get it working last time I tried)
versed estuary
Oh definitely .
Lost mission is very enjoyable
A quick 1-1.5 hour expansion thats almost nonstop gunplay
livid wharf
Awesome.
slim willow
Which is bfg without the classic dooms
And removed multiplayer
vernal crest
someone also made LM into a mod for the OG doom 3
scenic stratus
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805496883119783998/992917619881541703/S...
THAT'S GOOD!
winged dew
almost every Doom game takes place in a different universe since multiverse is a...
You mean the doom mod that starts with an H is canon? 😥
vernal crest
You mean the doom mod that starts with an H is canon? 😥
there are many cool mods that start with the H letter, like hell island, as Doom always takes place in hell. So yes, it's canon :D
||Ik which mod you're talking about, but um.... we don't talk about that||
slate laurel
OH GOD NOT THAT ONE
hard wolf
haha
supple gull
Would anyone else hate to be turned into a Z-Sec?
Imagine being literally hellbent on busting a cap in every living human's ass.
vernal crest
well, Z-secs are technically zombies that remain more of the human intelligence, so yeah anyone would hate to become either
slim willow
💀
strange valve
Or turned into a zombie with no head, still animated by demonic possession, up until the Doom Marine shotguns you to pieces, and a perfectly-intact brain comes out somehow.
dull wigeon
Just a random idea: the Marine from The Lost Mission possibly turn into a zombie after the ending of the campaign.
He was exposed to hell, and nobody besides the doomguy ended up ok after that. The only possible explanation to that is the Soul Cube protected or healed his mind and soul thanks to the magic it posses.
For the bravo team marine?Would be kinda depressing if the rescue team had to kill him after he becomes crazy and try to attack them.
scenic stratus
I doubt he became crazy
honest lynx
Just a random idea: the Marine from The Lost Mission possibly turn into a zombie...
The mention in the pda that military personnel have faster rotations off Mars. Which is why we have z secs
vernal crest
Just a random idea: the Marine from The Lost Mission possibly turn into a zombie...
There were also many other people who survived the "zombification", but died in the hands of other demons
hardy mica
hey i need some help so im almost at doom 3 and i have been wondering should i play original doom 3 or bfg edition. I heard bfg has some major changes to the game but is it that bad to not just play it there and 100% percent it
vernal crest
The OG Doom 3 is definitely better and more recommended, but if there's no other option then go for the BFG Edition, it's not super bad but, it's just way less good
tame moat
Playing the XBOX version of Doom 3 on its release was an awesome experience. then the BFG edition came out years later and it was the PC version, so had more story and content, but they got rid of the flashlight mechanic. I know it wasnt popular but walking along with that flashlight, panic swapping to a weapon and shooting into the dark atr what ever you saw was a ride.
half plank
that was a change from the original pc version too
vernal crest
the gun casting a second of light when fired also kinda made it look like a horror movie trailer, I'm probably the only one to think that tho
hardy mica
ok thanks yall
tame moat
Yeah the muzzle flash was awesome. I remember buying it in the afternoon and waiting until it was dark (and it was summer here, so like 9pm) and then playing it with the surround sound. I think the over all experience cemented it as one of my GOATs
scenic stratus
hey i need some help so im almost at doom 3 and i have been wondering should i p...
def bfg edition...you can use the flashlight and fire a weapon at the same time
slate gulch
Definitely want original
livid wharf
Original is more refined and moddable, BFG slightly improves the pacing and adds the Lost Mission.
half plank
Original. You can mod the flashlight with stuff like duct tape
versed estuary
Original. You can mod the flashlight with stuff like duct tape
U know what I want
Original with some sort of duct tape mod
But I want the flashlight to flicker
And cast a fractured light
scenic stratus
I want the flashlight to be duct taped to only the pistol
half plank
i agree. i wish i knew how to do that
roe on original xbox does this and it works really nicely
versed estuary
roe on original xbox does this and it works really nicely
No mod out there?
half plank
the closest i could find was an old abandoned link that led to nowhere
i'd do it myself if i knew how
if anyone knows how to do it, your work will please many
vernal crest
The flashlight on a pistol is fitting for ROE guy's character, and pistol would be used by either people trying to save ammo, or doing an pistol-only run
livid wharf
I regularly use the pistol for unarmed zombies so I can save the ammo for actual threats
acoustic acorn
maybe at the start of the game, but later on, Mr BFG Edition's pockets overflow with loot either way
vernal crest
I regularly use the pistol for unarmed zombies so I can save the ammo for actual...
you're better off using the flashlight honestly but, ok
slim willow
I just use the shotgun since the game gives you a lot of shells
livid wharf
Using the flashlight involves getting in the zombie’s attack range. Why would I do that when I can shoot them from the other side of the room with effectively the same resource cost
finite magnet
Hi all, was looking to replay doom 3 for the first time in years through XGP on PC but it just keeps force closing, don't suppose anyone else has had the same issue and has been able to fix it?
slim willow
The Game Pass PC version is kinda broken
honest lynx
It's fun using the aim controller in vr but I wish I was able to bash with it. Only thing I wish it had
slim willow
How do fists work in vr
tame moat
usually a hand per controller. I went straight to the aim though.
winged dew
If I had vr I’d play doom 3
slim willow
unkempt urchin
If I put a Doom 3 Xbox disc into my Xbox One or Series X, do I also get access to all the DLC, or do I still need to purchase that separately? I'm trying to decide what platform to grab it on, and I'd prefer to play the original Xbox version, but I also want access to the dlc, which the PS4 version just comes with.
slim willow
If I put a Doom 3 Xbox disc into my Xbox One or Series X, do I also get access t...
Original Xbox version disc or Xbox 360 BFG Edition disc?
The BFG Edition is backwards compatible afaik
OG Xbox version isn't
unkempt urchin
The BFG Edition is backwards compatible afaik
Oh okay I admit I just kind of assumed the original Xbox version was backwards compatible as I didn't know it got ported to 360. I'll probably play on PS4 if I can't play the original Xbox version.
unkempt urchin
Feel the pain with us Protea. <:doomguy_dead:242284429626703873>
Oh god what
half plank
No original Xbox Doom 3 on Xbox One. That is painful
unkempt urchin
Oh. Yeah I kind of agree. I never got to play Doom 3 back in the day, but I find the original Xbox version pretty interesting for some reason. A lot of original Xbox games are like that for me, like San Andreas, Silent Hill 2, Metal Gear Solid 2, and Castlevania: Curse of Darkness.
They have this novelty to them that I really like.
half plank
Agreed! Original Xbox Doom 3 is a blast too. It makes a lot of cuts but I think for the most part all the cuts are actually not bad. Cuts out a lot of the filler I didn't like in the original. It also adds some scripted events too. Like one of the enemies guns down a civilian in one of the maps. So that was cool I guess?
slim willow
OG Xbox version is the least accessible version 
half plank
It is true. My original Xbox recently died so I have once again joined the no Doom 3 Xbox club.
We can all suffer together
slim willow
Is it possible to emulate it?
frosty holly
Is it possible to emulate it?
Emulation is a bit of a hot topic (Cause it can quickly drift into piracy territory)
Let me just say, yes it is possible. But how? Well.. that i would recommend google.
half plank
I haven't checked up on Xbox emulation in a while.
slim willow
Emulation is a bit of a hot topic (Cause it can quickly drift into piracy territ...
We'll keep things legal
frosty holly
We'll keep things legal
I wouldn't risk it if i were you guys :)
Not telling you, just a recommendation.
slim willow
half plank
I wonder how easy (or hard) it would be to dump my own Doom 3 disc
frosty holly
I wonder how easy (or hard) it would be to dump my own Doom 3 disc
MVG got you covered :D
half plank
thank you so much 
slim willow
half plank
my only computer that is able to do discs is basically broken and is running linux mint. this is going to be fun
slim willow
half plank
i am truly thrilled
slim willow
https://youtu.be/G8WV1f09gZ8 This shit is funny as hell
vernal crest
truly a one punch man
half plank
super fast doom 3 marine but all the enemies are regular speed 
honestly a doom 3 turbo mode could be a neat idea. make everything maybe 20% faster?
honest lynx
super fast doom 3 marine but all the enemies are regular speed <:doomguy_thonk:3...
That's just bfg edition
vernal crest
I think I figured out the sharing thing, if anything is showing
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/661971660345180172/994641650599084093/The_board_doesnt_know_the_first_thing_about_sience_but_with_SB_background_noise.mp4
hard wolf
It fits quite well tbh
vernal crest
Lol, well considering that Swann and Betruger are quite used to bumping into one another, it is fitting
stable stratus
heh figured out howto make high quality roq files...so going to enhance all of the doom 3 videos that rely on that eventually
half plank
I think I figured out the sharing thing, if anything is showing
https://media.d...
this is the best video i have ever watched
vernal crest
Lol thanks 
livid wharf
Okay? I don’t know why you’re in this channel then
slate gulch
Its so dark that I can't find who asked
vernal crest
They deleted the message
slim willow
I think I figured out the sharing thing, if anything is showing
https://media.d...
Amazing
half plank
another day another doom 3 hater 🤢
vernal crest
Ikr, imagine hating Doom 3 ||Doom but more horror||
deft cargo
"doom 3 is a great game but not a great doom game" (hasn't played doom 3)
versed estuary
Say you are a fake fan without saying you are a fake fan
normal jolt
I really love that gun in Doom 3.
slate gulch
Doom 3 has the gun
half plank
Doom 3 is like higher quality Knee Deep in the Dead but spookier and without the midis. I do not understand why there is an overwhelming amount that dislikes it. It never insulted or belittled the originals and even makes heavy references to them.
slate gulch
Okay
half plank
get vega'd
slate gulch
Wasnt spam
half plank
vega being vega
vega is an overly strict parent who will lecture you for trying to live your life
slate gulch
Vega disallows onamatapia
slate gulch
Toyota Camry
Also my phone insisted that was the spelling. Like, aggressively changed it to that.
half plank
what phone do you use
livid wharf
I think Doom 3 is good but would be much better if we spent half the game in hell instead of a level or two
half plank
we needed more hell yes
slate gulch
what phone do you use
J7 Crown
scenic stratus
Anyone using delta touch to play D3?
I've been trying to figure out what mods work.
vernal crest
we needed more hell yes
Technically speaking we could've had more time in hell had the "retrieve the four pieces of the Soulcube" been kept in the game
half plank
Really should have. Such a cool idea I'm sad didn't make it in.
honest lynx
Doom 3 has ***the*** gun
Best they gun
scenic stratus
Doom 3 is the gun
versed estuary
Damn right
slim willow
scenic stratus
question is the xbox version of doom 3 good?
versed estuary
Yes
scenic stratus
thank you
scenic stratus
Doom 3 is good
slate gulch
No emp that would only matter for aircraft
scenic stratus
Medium sized bfg
random sundial
hey y'all, I'm just about to start Doom 3 and I was just wondering if I should use that Enhanced Edition mod? I only got myself to the menu and noticed the game feels rather less suited for modern systems (no widescreen, resolution stuff, etc) and so after changing the video settings a bit I closed out to let it update and decided to look into some other options while I was out.
scenic stratus
Yea
random sundial
guess that answers it, thanks.
oh, is the 2004 release port of The Lost Mission any good? just saw it on moddb while looking at enhanced edition.
slate gulch
Use the dhewm3 source port
random sundial
what's that?
slate gulch
A source port
random sundial
dwehm3, i mean
slate gulch
Dhewm3 is a source port for Doom 3 made to play it on modern hardware
random sundial
doesn't the original already run on modern hardware? it's not like it was made for DOS like the classic games
slate gulch
Dhewm3 runs it perfectly on modern hardware without any issues and allowing an easy access to options as well as allowing it to actually enable EAX Reverb
It also has support for the Lost Mission mod
But Phobos still needs vanilla
random sundial
i dunnno, i feel like i'd rather just use EE
is it like, significantly better or anything?
slate gulch
Its the best way I've ever played Doom 3
Its just. Just. Doom 3. In a source port. Like Chocolate or Crispy Doom.
random sundial
oop
well i found an old Reddit thread that recommends a "redux" mod over dhewm3
idk though, i mean, it just seems a little unnecessary
you say it's the best, but like, by how much?
slate gulch
I wouldn't and I played Doom 3 back when it was on disc
I just want Doom 3. Running perfectly on modern hardware. Thats what Dhewm3 is.
random sundial
hm
honestly I only really wanted to fix the aspect ratio and resolution and stuff, anything else is kinda just a bonus. I think I'll just use EE for now.
1 - Run "setup.exe" and follow the instructions, make sure to point it to your "Doom 3" folder when asked where to install it
2 - (Optional) Run "setup_ammo.exe" and do the same as the first step if you want to play the original campaigns with tighter ammo balance.
3 - Launch the game and enjoy.
Well, just to slightly contradict myself, I notice this ammo rebalance thing is included in the mod. Should I use this?
slate gulch
You don't even need a mod for the resolution
random sundial
i do for widescreen though, don't I?
slate gulch
No
random sundial
doesn't the native fix just stretch it?
slate gulch
You just change numbers in a text file
random sundial
huh
does that actually make it widescreen or just stretch the resolution, though?
regardless, i'm just curious about the ammo thing now. I have to go soon, too, so a quick response would be appreciated lol
i'd like to finish it so it's ready for when i come back.
slate gulch
I dont see any need to go changing things about the game
random sundial
alright, thanks.
i guess i'll dip for now, but I'll come back later maybe to share how it's going
thanks all
half plank
I've been playing 3 for years. Owned it on Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, PC, Switch, and more. I've played all flavors of 3 and I can assure you dhewm3 is a great port and highly recommended.
scenic stratus
I really want to try Doom 3 original Xbox port
half plank
It's pretty cheap online last time I've checked. Get Limited Collector's Edition, because it comes with Doom 1 and 2
Has a steelbook too which I still have on my shelves.
scenic stratus
I don’t have an Xbox : (
half plank
:(
oh rip
Mine died on me after about 18 years of service...
I'm not an expert on emulation, but there are ways to get the rom from legal copies. You could always try that?
scenic stratus
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/762550035652542464/995840986053890078/B...
Quake 2 ?
slim willow
I saw a video on emulating it and it has severe issues with textures and sound
half plank
slim willow
<:doomguy_dead:242284429626703873>
I was gonna send it to you but i can't
half plank
Got my dms set to friends only. Request sent.
slim willow
Alright
half plank
cursive gulch
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979822779459313701/996102302932938912/s...
Beautiful
slate gulch
"They told me 'Doctor don't bathe in the teleporter radiation!' And now look at me! I made myself metal, Swann! Metal Betruger!"
scenic stratus
Nanomachines marine!
hard wolf
Sick aff
half plank
vr doesnt have silver betruger
honest lynx
@half plank seriously I was looking back I actually have played doom 3 Vr once a week at least since I got it. Which is wild man
vernal crest
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979822779459313701/996102302932938912/s...
imagine metalic maledict
scenic stratus
Metaldict
vernal crest
He could probably beat ROE guy's plot armor 😂🤣
half plank
roe guy stole the marine's kill
vernal crest
roe guy stole the marine's kill <:doomguy_dead:242284429626703873>
Exactly man
slate gulch
Metaledict
acoustic acorn
RoE guy is doomguy
void mirage
random sundial
Is the fall damage in this game supposed to be so ridiculous?
I'll fall down just a slight cliff and take damage, and if I fall down something even marginally taller, like missing a ladder that takes ~3 seconds to climb, my health will literally drop to like, -500
acoustic acorn
it wacky
random sundial
But the wacky is normal and expected?
scenic stratus
Probably not
livid wharf
I think it’s just how the physics engine works, intended or not.
I tried to calculate that but read it as falling for 3 seconds rather than climbing for 3 seconds and concluded that such a fall would absolutely kill a person, but you said 3 seconds up a ladder. One moment while I math that
I can’t find a statistic for how fast the average soldier can climb a ladder, but I figure that 1 m/s is probably reasonable, if a bit optimistic. A 3 meter fall onto concrete/metal would definitely hurt, and I could absolutely see a person breaking something that way if they’re unlucky, but probably not fatal. It wouldn’t be as severe on Mars due to lower gravity, but I imagine fall damage was assigned based on what felt right as Earth gravity
slim willow
2016 players: Imagine not having impact compensation
random sundial
I can’t find a statistic for how fast the average soldier can climb a ladder, bu...
I mean, it's less about realism and more that just a pretty small fall does about 6 times my max health lol
Honestly I think it's probably some engine quirk. Fall damage scales rapidly for some reason.
I was mainly just asking if it was like, a known thing, or my game in particular was bugged.
livid wharf
Yeah it’s a known thing
half plank
yeah the marine is frail
livid wharf
The Doom 3 / Quake 4 engine is really weird
random sundial
Anyway, what happens if I disable free look? I saw it locks me into only horizontal camera movement, but I never tried it in combat. Does it like automatically look up to aim or like does it work like the old games or can I just not hit things above me or?
I can't imagine it'd be the last one.
livid wharf
All energy projectiles have splash damage, even imp fireballs. Also direct hit damage and splash damage are mutually exclusive; you can only be hit by one from any given projectile
random sundial
That's. Not what I asked. But it is cool to know, thanks.
Guess I'll just test it for myself lol
livid wharf
Just saying that the engine is just weird in general
No idea about the freelook thing
random sundial
ok so turning off freelook basically just makes the game unplayable lol
Why is this even an option lol
livid wharf
No idea.
random sundial
Damn wait
Can projectiles clash and neutralize each other? That's really cool.
livid wharf
Yup
Each projectile has a “durability” stat that determines if 2 projectiles will neutralize one another or if one will absorb the other
slim willow
Idtech 4
livid wharf
Yup. Such a bizarre game engine
random sundial
Each projectile has a “durability” stat that determines if 2 projectiles will ne...
Will a stronger projectile blow through an indefinite amount of weaker ones, or do they have a kind of "health"?
livid wharf
I think it’s a kind of health but I’m not sure
Projectile destruction makes cacodemons and revenants very sad
Even the BFG ball can be destroyed this way, but the BFG ball hitbox is deceptively small
random sundial
I think I just got to the hardest part of the game
I'm at the satellite message thingy and I can transmit the message
And now I am faced with...
A choice
Nothing has prepared me for this
livid wharf
Spoiler
||It doesn’t actually matter. Betruger will send the message if you don’t||
random sundial
Agh i don't wanna spoiler...
It's like
I thought the Swan guy was cool and a good guy at first
But then the guy on the radio was acting like he was a bad guy?
And I'm pretty sure the guy on the radio is a good guy, so
But also Swan was definitely against the evil scientist guy so that would seem to make him a good guy, right?
But now I see the choice, and I see they are both good guys, they just have different ideas of how to handle the thing
And it's like, well whose idea is better? And whose approval do I crave the most?
livid wharf
The spoiler is extremely minor if that helps
random sundial
And thinking now, I realize I'll probably get to like, maybe team up with one of them once I reach Delta? So then it's like who do I wanna team up with?
And I don't know the extent of the choice either. Is it just a short gameplay part or is there like another ending
Hhhhh
livid wharf
||It literally just changes a line of dialogue about halfway through the game.||
random sundial
I've actually done both choices. I sent the transmission, then rethought it, then replaced the entire level cause I didn't make a save for some reason, then I cancelled it (after a save), and now I'm like
Hhhh
Oh ok
random sundial
Spoiler
||It doesn’t actually matter. Betruger will send the message if you don’...
How long until this if I do that?
livid wharf
I don’t remember. Maybe 2-3 levels?
random sundial
Hm
livid wharf
Basically if you don’t send the message, when Betruger does his Villain Speech, he remarks that it’s a pity you didn’t send the message so he’ll just do it himself
random sundial
Well, I've done the worst thing
I overthought it and now all the interesting stuff about it is gone, and whichever choice I go with I'll regret
Awesome
livid wharf
Actual spoiler this time
||Swan and the colonial both die in the 3rd act in completely unrelated ways||
random sundial
Ok I'm not gonna click that one
The plot twists of this 2004 game are very important to me
livid wharf
Lol. I love how well Doom 3 nails the tone of “campy 80s horror movie”
random sundial
Whatever. I'm getting back to the game.
I'm sure the guy on the radio whose name i forgot will forgive me
livid wharf
Yeah I don’t remember his name either
random sundial
Lol
Question: are the weird floating things I've been fighting meant to he cacodemons?
Or do they not appear until later?
Also, how far am I, actually?
livid wharf
The floating skulls are Doom 3’s take on Lost Souls
random sundial
I mean the ones that shoot projectiles
I picked up on the lost souls
livid wharf
Yeah they are. They didn’t make them red and I hate that
random sundial
The look like something outta Metroid prime
random sundial
Yeah they are. They didn’t make them red and I hate that
What is it with the mid era doom games and fucking around with the cacodemon design lol
livid wharf
IDK but IIRC it was originally going to be the pain elemental model (they ended up not having pain elementals thankfully)
random sundial
They looked like meatballs in doom 64, actually a lot like the doom 2 pain elemental
Which was also redesigned
They look
random sundial
IDK but IIRC it was originally going to be the pain elemental model (they ended ...
Daaamn
Wild
Well at least they fixed them in the modern doom games lol
random sundial
I mean
It's much better than "slightly paler baron"
livid wharf
I love the Doom 3 hell knight
random sundial
Ye
It's cool
livid wharf
I think Cacos and Archviles are the only monster designs Doom 3 really messed up.
random sundial
I'll see the archviles when I get there
Back to gaming 
livid wharf
Yup
random sundial
bro these guys dispose of their toxic waste by putting it in barrels and shooting rockets at them 💀
slim willow
Agh i don't wanna spoiler...
It's like
I thought the Swan guy was cool and a goo...
You're in for a surprise later
cursive gulch
You're in for a surprise later
Its that one guy from the thing
half plank
silence. let adre experience the glory of doom 3
acoustic acorn
2016 players: Imagine not having impact compensation
"killed by world". let's not forget that if you fall too far in combat, he does that big animation which stuns you: this can happen in the coolant fight at vega. Or if you fall off the map, you die.
vernal crest
Whatever. I'm getting back to the game.
I'm sure the guy on the radio whose name...
Marines refer to him as Sarge Kelly btw
scenic stratus
6 2 7
half plank
Man you guys suck
He's literally Sgt. Kelly though 
random sundial
How do I fight the mutated tentacle guys?
No matter how I try to strafe or run back their attacks always hit me. Do I just have to kill them before they reach me?
half plank
crouch. shotgun (or chainsaw) their crotch
random sundial
I can just crouch them? Lol
random sundial
I managed to pull it off. Felt really cool 😎
(We need a doomguy with sunglasses emote asap)
What's the general perception of this game? I know some people really hate it and others are super big on it but like, how does the community in gender feel about it?
I imagine it'd be somewhat polarizing given the radical genre shift, but also it seems extremely well-received critically and commercially, so.
onyx ridge
How do I fight the mutated tentacle guys?
No matter how I try to strafe or run b...
Same, I always got hit by them lol
half plank
I really love it, but a massive amount of fans don't like the tone shift and criticize the arsenal, especially the shotgun. It's a divisive game but I think for the most part people kinda just find it average.
vernal crest
It's mostly newer fans that dislike the game
half plank
I think a lot of the criticisms are stupid, but there is no denying if you come off 2016 or Eternal (which a lot of fans are) it's definitely different.
half plank
It's mostly newer fans that dislike the game
No Mick Gordon?! No Samuel Hayden and funny sound effects?! Unplayable!!
slate gulch
No Mick Gordon?! No Samuel Hayden and funny sound effects?! Unplayable!!
That first one will be a plus for generations
slate gulch
How do I fight the mutated tentacle guys?
No matter how I try to strafe or run b...
Duck the tentacle
Then blast them before they knee you
random sundial
My first game was 2016 (got it on sale for like 5 bucks), and I liked it, so I decided to play the other games.
Worked my way up through Doom 1, 2, 64, and now I'm here.
I have a friend who's super into Doom—totally denounced this title. Said it sucked and wasn't worth playing. But I kinda wanted to play all the games and looking into it I found it seemed to be well-received, so I asked around.
Apparently not that it's a bad game, but just really different from the other Doom games, so it's common for people to be a fan of one and not the other.
But I was just wondering like, more broadly, what the perception of it is, outside if the more extreme opinions, I guess. Would it be accurate to call it a polarizing title?
random sundial
Ehhh i dunno
slate gulch
I do
random sundial
Its really not that different than Doom 1
But nah, I really don't think so, I mean
slate gulch
I've played both a lot. Too many times to count.
The gameplay is very similar
The dressings don't disguise it to me so I play 3 how I would play 1
random sundial
Alright
livid wharf
Yeah it’s not a true 1:1 by any means but they definitely have a similar vibe. Main differences are that the shotgun isn’t your default weapon, there’s way more story stuff and way less time in Hell (the best part of both games imo). I think each of the major labs sections should have been each consolidated into one level with the best parts of each level in that section, then have way more content dedicated to gauntlet running through Hell
random sundial
So uhh
What's the status on general Doom canon?
Is it just one of those "don't think about it too hard" kinda series?
livid wharf
It’s technically canon but it’s so far off as its own thing that it doesn’t matter to the other games
half plank
think its alt universe stuff or whatever. i dont fucking know
livid wharf
Yeah basically
random sundial
I meant like, in general
Does the series have any greater continuity or is it kinda all over the place?
Ik Doom 1, 2, and 64 are all together
3 is kinda??
I'm pretty sure Eternal is a direct sequel to 2016?
livid wharf
1, 2, and 64 happen one shortly after another, then 2016 and Eternal happen on another Earth some unknown but very long time later
random sundial
Hm
You know I'm starting to think we shouldn't be letting these UAC guys mess around with hell and stuff
Wait did you say another Earth?
livid wharf
Yes. Multiverse stuff, though they’re all connected to the same Hell
random sundial
This series just becomes more like Half-Life the more I learn about it huh
When is this said?
livid wharf
Hugo Martin has said it in interviews and there’s lots of minor references to the early games in modern Doom.
The connections between Doom 1, 2, and 64 are pretty explicit intext though, as are the connections between 2016 and Eternal
random sundial
Yeah no I mean the multiverse thing
acoustic acorn
2016's levels usually end with a doom3 style clickable computer hallway
scenic stratus
How do I fight the mutated tentacle guys?
No matter how I try to strafe or run b...
What guy
Ohhh fat Cthulhu
random sundial
Uh, no
Aren't those mancubi?
Anyway I've already gotten that sorted
random sundial
2016's levels usually end with a doom3 style clickable computer hallway
...so?
scenic stratus
Uh, no
Aren't those mancubi?
Anyway I've already gotten that sorted
I call them fat Cthulhu
livid wharf
Yeah those are Mancubi. They don’t show up often in Doom 3 for whatever reason
They’re the worst though so I don’t mind not seeing them
slim willow
Mancubi are underused in Doom 3
cursive gulch
Thats because they were replaced wuth Cthulhu
slim willow
Funny Andy
livid wharf
Mancubi in Doom 3 are absolute bastards.
random sundial
So, I notice projectiles in this game originate from the barrel of your weapon, rather than the centre of the screen. Is the same true for hitscan lines?
tame moat
1, 2, and 64 happen one shortly after another, then 2016 and Eternal happen on a...
isnt it supposed to be that 64, 16 and Eternal are a continuum? 3 and its 2 add-ons are 3 different guys that are connected by events only and are separate to the rest
vernal crest
No Mick Gordon?! No Samuel Hayden and funny sound effects?! Unplayable!!
A funny thing is that Mick was one of the people who praised the game
cursive gulch
No Mick Gordon?! No Samuel Hayden and funny sound effects?! Unplayable!!
Samuel hayden actually made the funny sound effects in doom 3
vernal crest
And there was a cut character General Hayden in Doom 3's original story (Ik I've mentioned it before)
scenic stratus
Not related to Sam
vernal crest
True, but it still seems worth mentioning
half plank
Doom 3's concept art and early builds are fascinating
a couple that stood out to me
vernal crest
I also liked the concept for Zombie Commando
random sundial
Oh that's a suit
It looked like a giant mechanical heart or something
Anyway
Man the shotgun in this game is kinda shit, huh?
scenic stratus
If it’s spread wasn’t that huge then it would’ve been overpowered
Especially In claustrophobic spaces
random sundial
i mean sure but it also kinda sucks at close range because the enemies' hitboxes shift around so much 😅
the fact that i'm pretty sure the hitscan lines originate off-centre from the camera certainly doesn't help, either
but i can certainly tell you i've missed an innumerable amount of point-blank shots because neither the area of effect of my weapon nor the hitbox of the enemy were as advertised
and also have hit a lot of shots i shouldn't have for that same reason
anyway, uh
how much longer do i have to go?
i just got to caverns 2
slim willow
Close to the end
livid wharf
I’d tweak the shotgun by halving the damage per pellet and doubling the pellet count. That way it’s still used for the same purpose, but the damage lost from shooting too far away would be more consistent and therefore make it a bit more forgiving to use
scenic stratus
Not related to Sam
Fisher?
acoustic acorn
I just try not to use it lol
half plank
anyway, uh
how much longer do i have to go?
i just got to caverns 2
caverns 2? yeah youre at the very end.
cursive gulch
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/951569115074670676/996645342600761365/1...
so glad they added the engineer from alien into doom 3
slim willow
I feel like if the shotgun spread was lessened and the damage kept the same it would make almost all the other weapons useless due to how powerful it is
The game already gives you a shitton of shells
And then RoE barely gives you any because of the ssg
normal compass
hazy sentinel
367 health?
slim willow
Broken af
random sundial
Yeah but no I just wish the shotgun was more consistent
My issue isn't how close I have to be to kill an imp or whatever in one hit, it's just that even at that range it often fails because reasons
random sundial
In the room with the floating eggs, I picked up 2 video discs, but only 1 new video was in my pda
Are there any redundant/repeated discs in the game?
random sundial
Well that final boss was pretty neat, though the presentation could have been a bit better 😆
I wonder if the cutscene is any better in the BFG edition
Ehhh marginally
Well whatever, that was cool
Is there anything else for me to do in the main game now or should I move on to the dlc?
scenic stratus
Dlc
random sundial
how does the The Lost Mission mod work for the 2004 release? does it become a launch option for RoE or a thing on the menu or
also do i need to reinstall enhanced edition again on RoE or does it use some shared files stuff?
i'm just gonna get everything set up so after i'm done with RoE i can go straight to TLM
also i think i'm gonna write my review for this game about now
just to clarify, would it be accurate to refer to Doom 3 as a "polarizing title"?
vernal crest
Doom 3 is more like a "Doom but more horror, with other cool stuff too"
random sundial
yeah, definitely
but like, how does the general community feel about it?
vernal crest
most people love D3 actually, especially when it came out, just like how people love Eternal. But it's most new fans who "can't play Doom without PB mod" who pretty much say the same thing over and over and never explain it
a funny thing is that back when it came out the main complaint that people (along with critics) had is that it's "too much like Doom" and they could bring up an actual argument, but I don't see anyone saying that Eternal is "too much like Doom". Just something I find funny
random sundial
i don't understand
vernal crest
it's fine
random sundial
where is my "doom 3 installation folder"?
trail flax
its definitly better playing doom 3 with atleast a gun sound mod atleast if anything
the rest i just adjusted through console commands the whole time like game speed and fov
cause one thing i dont care much for or thought was weird to begin with was the speed
but its prefrence either way
honest lynx
Vr gun sounds are just great. More punch
random sundial
where is my "doom 3 installation folder"?
livid wharf
Browse local file from your Steam library
random sundial
is it just my doom 3 steam folder?
livid wharf
I think so yes.
random sundial
Doom 3 is a bit of an oddball in the series. While previous Doom games were more focused on action with a touch of horror, Doom 3 goes in much harder on the horror aspect, pulling it more into action-horror hybrid territory. Doom 3, admittedly, doesn't feel like much of a Doom game; but this isn't a bad thing. An important part of enjoying anything is managing your expectations, and if you come in here expecting an action-packed fast-paced experience like Doom 2016 or Eternal, you will be sorely disappointed. Indeed, people who like the other Doom games may not necessarily like this entry, but fans of games like Half-Life and BioShock should feel right at home. The similarities are oftentimes quite striking, even.
I played using the Doom 3 Enhanced Edition mod, which provides in-menu widescreen support in addition to various minor tweaks and fixes.
here's my review 👍
scenic stratus
Maybe doom 2016 and eternal aren’t good doom games
random sundial
where did that come from
also i'm a bit lost trying to install the lost mission mod. I tried to extract my stuff into it and I'm not sure if it worked.
can anyone show me what a vanilla Doom 3 file folder should look like?
ok, i think I got it sorted now
I wish I could send pictures, just so i could show what my folder is like to confirm. Lol
So it looks like TLM runs as a standalone program, which would mean that I should be able to set it as its own game on Steam
I'm just wondering if there's any art and such for it so that I could give it a proper poster and background and such
half plank
> Doom 3 is a bit of an oddball in the series. While previous Doom games were mo...
I am glad you stuck around and enjoyed it. :)
Enhanced Edition's such a cool mod too. Love how they made the final boss not a complete joke.
random sundial
I died a couple times on it. It was neat.
How exactly was it changed?
random sundial
Which are the maggots?
Also yeah there's definitely more than that in EE lol
half plank
maggots are the 2 headed guys that die in like 1 shotgun blast
random sundial
ah yes
those guys
scenic stratus
The ones that crawl
random sundial
there's also the 1 headed guys with the kinda wingy arms that are basically the same for practical purposes
and then there's the guys that are like, half baby half fly
baby flies
so, i mean
they're kinda maggots too, right? 😆
livid wharf
I kinda wish that they had made the cyberdemon not immune to most weapons then remove cover so you have to deal with his attacks but can use BFG and stuff
random sundial
I'm not sure I understand
half plank
They might have changed it in Enhanced Edition but in the original you could only damage the final boss with the soul cube.
slim willow
I think it has more enemies
Hellknights and mancubi?
random sundial
They might have changed it in Enhanced Edition but in the original you could onl...
Yeah no I got that
It was the rest i didn't understand
honest lynx
Locker 666
half plank
very good stuff in there
scenic stratus
What's in those
only hell knows
random sundial
huh, that's a little weird
when i first played, after installing Enhanced Edition, opening the mods menu showed only that—Enhanced Edition. I clicked to load it but I wasn't sure if it actually did anything.
Now, I've also installed RoE and the TLM mod, and when I open the mods tab... all it shows are that. Doom 3, Restriction of Evil, and The Lost Mission.
loading them closes out of the game and relaunches with the respective campaign
which, is all cool and all. Guess I don't need to launch TLM from my file explorer, but
...why?
I mean I guess it makes sense for the other campaigns to have appeared there since they weren't actually installed before, but
why did EE disappear?
Also, um
I really don't understand why RoE appears as a full separate game on Steam rather than just like, actual DLC, or a simple launch option.
hm... I wonder if I could configure it to be that way? Have both expansions just appear as a launch option for Doom 3 rather than separate titles?
it would certainly be more eloquent.
I did go through the trouble of setting a custom background and logo and stuff for RoE (which admittedly isn't much trouble at all), and it would be cool to have the same for TLM (though I don't know if appropriately sized artwork for it even exists), but if they're all gonna launch from each other like that anyway it may be more fitting to have them all together, right?
supple gull
Because it isn't DLC in the sense
random sundial
Bro they put the gravity gun in this game?
vernal crest
It'S gRaBbEr GuN
random sundial
Ok but like...
is it possible to set the expansions as launch options for Doom 3 on Steam? And is there any appropriate artwork for the poster and banner of TLM?
cursive gulch
Ok but like...
*is* it possible to set the expansions as launch options for Doom...
You click on them
random sundial
What?
random sundial
Is it just me or is the super shotgun in this game reversed in functionality?
livid wharf
The Doom 3 SSG is glorious. Very good weapon 10/10 would load again
random sundial
It feels like it does more damage and has tighter spread 😆
random sundial
You click on the expansions desktop icon
I don't see how that pertains to my question
cursive gulch
I don't see how that pertains to my question
Click on the desktop icon for the expansion for a quick launch option
random sundial
I wasn't asking for a quick launch option. I wanted to know if it was possible to set it as one of the options in the menu that appears when you try to launch some games (like Doom 3 having Doom 3 and Doom 3 server)
And also if there was any appropriate art for TLM that could be used as a banner and poster and stuff
random sundial
that part where you go through the toxic tunnel was pretty cool
honest lynx
The Doom 3 SSG is glorious. Very good weapon 10/10 would load again
Yes double the load double the fun
jade rivet
doom 3 make how quake 4
random sundial
What
honest lynx
doom 3 make how quake 4
It's good. Uses the same engine
random sundial
Does the Berserk ability for the artifact increase my punch strength like normal, or is it just the movement speed?
honest lynx
Does the Berserk ability for the artifact increase my punch strength like normal...
It's not just punch either just use a actual weapon
random sundial
That
Doesn't answer my question
half plank
Quake 4 is great. If you like Doom 3 you'll find enjoyment there.
random sundial
Bro what the hell was that ending 😆
2004 was really something else
livid wharf
Oh yeah the campaign ends on a cliffhanger that is picked up by the DLC
random sundial
Nah I just finished the DLC
I just found the presentation to be incredibly awkward lol
half plank
betruger dragon
livid wharf
Oh okay
honest lynx
Nah I just finished the DLC
I just found the presentation to be incredibly awkwa...
There's a theory you actually die in the end going to heaven
random sundial
I actually had that same thought!
honest lynx
I like that one honestly
livid wharf
That’s an unusually optimistic conclusion for a Doom game story and I like it
random sundial
Is it?
Protagonist usually survives entirely, doesn't he? I don't see how dying and going to heaven is "unusually optimistic"
Isn't it the other way around, honestly? Surviving would be more optimistic?
livid wharf
Optimistic in that it implies that anything good can happen to someone after death in the Doomverse
random sundial
Into the Doomverse
I mean, why wouldn't that be? There's nothing indicating hell is the only afterlife
Doom II's ending even indicates the opposite, that it is indeed only for bad people.
Though honestly based on the complete lack of any damned humans being tortured or anything in there I'm kinda doubtful Doom hell is even an afterlife at all.
livid wharf
Modern Doom especially takes an incredibly bleak direction on Hell of lots of souls in hell while Urdak (closest thing we’ve seen to Doom heaven) has no humans, implying that everyone goes to Hell
random sundial
Oh I haven't played Eternal yet so idk anything about that lol
honest lynx
Also new doom says if a demon kills ya you definitely go to hell too
livid wharf
Classic Doom is more ambiguous with the nature of the afterlife and leans into Judeochristian ideas a good bit
slim willow
What i like is that it's the same Hell in all of the Doom games
livid wharf
I like to treat modern Doom as its own thing due to the amount of retcon stuff it does
honest lynx
That's just head Canon now though
slim willow
It's mainly TAG2 that retconned things
I wonder if the big skull in the beginning of the Hell level is a Titan skull
honest lynx
I wonder if the big skull in the beginning of the Hell level is a Titan skull
You ever seen the doom 3 icon of sin mod ?
slim willow
No
honest lynx
scenic stratus
I wonder if the big skull in the beginning of the Hell level is a Titan skull
nothing in d3 is related to 2016 or eternal
and there is no slayer lying in the coffin on the last level
scenic stratus
https://imgur.com/a/KBvUDMs
seen that.. or even could have tried many years ago.. was a bit of disgusting
honest lynx
nothing in d3 is related to 2016 or eternal
and there is no slayer lying in the...
Hugo pulled a hugo and said doom 3 is Canon so until he changes his mind it is
slim willow
https://imgur.com/a/KBvUDMs
Oh i remember seeing this a while ago now
slim willow
nothing in d3 is related to 2016 or eternal
and there is no slayer lying in the...
In terms of lore there definitely are a few connections now, if only a little
scenic stratus
In terms of lore there definitely are a few connections now, if only a little
not at all
eastereggs only
slim willow
It's the same Hell in all of the Doom games
honest lynx
Yeah because hell is extra dimensional. But if they tie doom3 in earth Mars all that would have to be a different one to eternals /classics
scenic stratus
It's the same Hell in all of the Doom games
it’s “different shades” of hell
so, far far not the same (if you dig deeper)
in terms of it being another dimension - yes
but that’s the extent of it
random sundial
Doom hardly even has any lore and I already have mixed feelings about heavy retcons lol
I guess I'll see when I get there.
vernal crest
Oh yeah the campaign ends on a cliffhanger that is picked up by the DLC
just like almost every Doom game
random sundial
These guys do know that a space suit failing when in a low-pressure environment would cause an explosion, not an implosion, right?
scenic stratus
Yes
livid wharf
Doom 3 is rad. Not perfect but rad
random sundial
well that's TLM done
liked it, short and sweet, always been a fan of stories that happen alongside the main campaign
ending was a bit awkward again but no complaints here 😆
I... guess i'm done with Doom 3, now
it's been fun, but I have other things to do now
like Dusk, which my friend was so insistent I play he literally gifted it to me
oh hey, one last thing
what's with the CD keys option thing on Steam? appears under the manage option when you right click the game
it says you'll need to copy and paste the key when you launch the game to activate it or something but I never had to do any of that?
honest lynx
Vr doom is eternal
livid wharf
I still haven’t gotten around to that Doom 3 reimagining I want to make (basically I want to make a Doom 3 campaign redesign that keeps the same story and all but compresses the first half of the game and has way more time spent in Hell)
scenic stratus
Doom 4
half plank
oh hey, one last thing
what's with the CD keys option thing on Steam? appears un...
You do if you delete all the data and reinstall.
random sundial
could you elaborate?
half plank
I've had to make fresh installs of 3 sometimes (delete and reinstall, all saves gone, etc.) and it will ask you for the codes once you hit the title screen.
random sundial
that's weird
like, uninstall through Steam or through files?
half plank
A lot of old PC games had CD key DRM to ensure that, you know, you bought it.
half plank
that's weird
like, uninstall through Steam or through files?
no, like, you select everything in the folder and just wipe it
into the bin
random sundial
so through files
random sundial
dude why is the official TLM art so ugly lol
half plank
i wish i knew
rose field
i don't think it looks that bad
this one right? https://doomwiki.org/w/images/1/1b/LostMissionDesktopBG.jpg
vernal crest
I'm surprised that the dude can wield two guns when they and their Bravo gang got defeated by imps and maggots
rose field
lol
honest lynx
Actually have that poster. Really like it
random sundial
I meant, it's fine on its own
But it doesn't fit the game at all lol
honest lynx
Nope
random sundial
is that agreement or
scenic stratus
Lol
slim willow
this one right? https://doomwiki.org/w/images/1/1b/LostMissionDesktopBG.jpg
It's more like fanart than official art
A demon that isn't in the game and 2 weapons that aren't in the game
random sundial
And the style dies look anything like the game
Honestly it feels more like totally unrelated art erroneously tagged as Doom media than anything lol
honest lynx
Honestly it feels more like totally unrelated art erroneously tagged as Doom med...
The art was created to emphasize the bfg editions add on that increased the pace of the game. The whole reason bfg was created. Faster pace. But I do agree it's all a lie. That main boss demon is on all fours anyways
livid wharf
BFG Edition truly is faster
honest lynx
At the cost of the original design and some of the main aesthetic appeal
random sundial
but it do be faster tho
livid wharf
That’s true as well
Tbf my main issue with Doom 3 is that the pacing, especially in the first third, is far too slow
hazy sentinel
At the cost of the original design and some of the main aesthetic appeal
Along with the green area in the final level of Resurrection of Evil being gone too
honest lynx
Along with the green area in the final level of Resurrection of Evil being gone ...
That's what I meant by original design
hazy sentinel
I believe BF Edition also added more ammo to many of the ammo pickups
honest lynx
I believe BF Edition also added more ammo to many of the ammo pickups
Which is why the only reason I ever recommend it is a nightmare run because it helps make it more enjoyable
I would say the VR I play now instead but VR even though based on bfg is another beast
Altogether
half plank
The art was created to emphasize the bfg editions add on that increased the pace...
If only the "faster pace" didn't involve cutting monsters and adding ammo to a game with too much ammo.
honest lynx
If only the "faster pace" didn't involve cutting monsters and adding ammo to a g...
Wouldn't know I'm to busy being John wick while you're still using kbm
slim willow
Along with the green area in the final level of Resurrection of Evil being gone ...
I will never understand why they removed that part
hushed abyss
they probably thought that it's too scary for casuals
vernal crest
LMAO, kinda reminds me of how Resident Evil 8 wasn't a horror game because people who played 7 said that it was "too scary" (yup that actually happened)
normal jolt
Wait, isn't Village technically horror?
livid wharf
Yes
cursive gulch
Wait, isn't *Village* technically horror?
No
slim willow
cursive gulch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848103588979146774/998138288462377020/Doo...
Cant believe youd do this to betrugers twin brother joe
At least you didnt do this to joe or joe, betruger would be fuming
slim willow
vernal crest
Credits roll in
vernal crest
Wait, isn't *Village* technically horror?
Expect for the Donna's part (which is actually survival horror) no
slim willow
*Credits roll in*
Gotta make an edited version
vernal crest
I do find it funny that Betruger was reading about the Soulcube when I'm pretty sure he already read about it (and had just taken it to hell)
supple gull
I'm surprised that the dude can wield two guns when they and their Bravo gang go...
I'm surprised the dude even survived the attack at all
vernal crest
Well the ROE guy survived because of the plot armor, so he could've done the same
scenic stratus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848103588979146774/998138288462377020/Doo...
you didn't stop the evil
glass relic
he became the evil
dull wigeon
So I was playing with the Trent Reznor sound pack recently, and imo it was a pretty disappointing. I'd even call it very overrated, after hear many times this sound pack makes the game a whole new experience (and better).
In reality it only changes like 4 weapons and 4 monsters but nothing else, and in most cases Reznor sounds are a direct downgrade of vanilla.
Some of my observations are:
-The marine sounds like a teenager here idk why. Apparently Trent himself do the "voice acting" which is weird.
-Imps sound almost cartoony and out of place.
-Commandos repeat their cheesy voice lines whitout any proper trigger, which breaks the atmosphere and make's them to easy to spot.
-Zombies are meh.
-Pinkies and Hell Knights are probably the best ones. These sounds is particular could be used for other demons.
slim willow
I think i might be able to get an OG Xbox
There's one for sale at a local store here
And they have the OG Xbox version of Doom 3
Definitely caught my attention
normal jolt
Doom 3 is also available on the PlayStation Store.
rose field
:o
honest lynx
Og is the best version of the doom 3. And x box was super faithful
At this point I don't think Vr even fits in to either bfg or og
It is It's own thing
honest lynx
Doesn't have the plastic sleeve
Nice yours does I see collectors edition .org
half plank
I didn't wanna get another pic lmao. With enough searching in the chats you could probably find my own images.
honest lynx
Google Swiss
glass relic
So I was playing with the Trent Reznor sound pack recently, and imo it was a pre...
my fucking eyes I am so not reading this
a whole paragraph for a discord opinion
but i agree the sound pack is not great
half plank
yeah its really not great. i tried to like it but it feels awful
scenic stratus
Maybe I’ll try it and see if I dislike it too
half plank
it needs an update
rose field
a whole paragraph for a discord opinion
why would we not make a whole paragraph for an opinion
it's not that long anyway
scenic stratus
Ong
vernal crest
The reason the Doom Marine sounds like a teen is because he's truly an retired anime character, why do you think he has big eyes (which he tries to hide with glaring) and can punch things so hard they get thanos snapped
scenic stratus
wait... in xbox edition of DooM 3 you can have 2 consoles in one apartment and play co-op via LAN ?
slim willow
I think so
slim willow
scenic stratus
https://youtu.be/4j-D-Hthe-Y
mmmmm that's so freaking amazing! i wanna 2 consoles NOW!
slim willow
mmmmm that's so freaking amazing! i wanna 2 consoles **NOW**!
Just use XLink Kai
scenic stratus
Just use XLink Kai
thanks bro!
honest lynx
I'd love to do a nightmare co op run some day
scenic stratus
i’d love to aswell but i have problems hosting server
slim willow
There's opencoop too but idk how that works exactly
scenic stratus
There's opencoop too but idk how that works exactly
og game (2004) files + opencoop
True
strange valve
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/951569115074670676/998391425995636796/d...
Oddly, the OG-Xbox version of Doom 3 was the first version I played.
honest lynx
I was hyped to get it because I'm a fan of controller. And it felt great
honest lynx
I wasn't used to it at first but the chonk is great
honest lynx
I wish I could get a decent recording
half plank
i love the damn xbox port. need a total conversion. sadly nobody with the ability to do this gives a shit about doom 3 for the microsoft xbox
honest lynx
Yeah... no controller support either
half plank
i actually prefer the smaller maps. i feel like they just cut unecessary filler
but im also a weirdo so who knows
honest lynx
Actually felt nice not playing vr.
half plank
not scientifically possible
dull wigeon
i love the damn xbox port. need a total conversion. sadly nobody with the abilit...
Someone is doing a perfect 1:1 conversion of Saturn Quake 1 to PC, so anything is possible
half plank
thats honestly cool as hell. does this mean theyre bringing over the jank of the powerslave engine?
dull wigeon
I hope so!
Anyway here the thing if you want see more
https://twitter.com/JaycieErysdren/status/1548491890877575170?s=20&t=HH0RMPEEkVgjqsNC6LaTvg
Btw I like how older Id games console ports had all its own identity.
Both Quake 1 ports to Saturn and N64, Doom 3 on Xbox, the multiple Doom conversion but especially Ps1 Doom.
All bring something unique to the table.
half plank
return to castle wolfenstein adding in a bunch of new levels at the beginning for some reason
slim willow
I just noticed the enhanced edition actually makes armor useful
The armor takes more damage saving health
Makes the game easier but atleast armor now has a use
supple gull
Doom 3 on Xbox is so awesome. The armor actually protects you, there are scripted sequences not seen on PC, and a unique civilian zombie.
honest lynx
I just noticed the enhanced edition actually makes armor useful
Might actually help in nightmare
slim willow
Definitely
half plank
EE is such a good mod
I play it with the included optional ammo patch. Really adds to the tension when you have to conserve a little ammo.
livid wharf
I want to mess with campaign mods, and one thing I want to try is combat encounters that push the limits of how big Doom 3 fights can be. Real slaughter map shit. Imagine a level that has you dealing with a non-boss version of the cyberdemon in the distance while cacos fill the sky and a couple dozen maggots are trying to get in melee range and chainsaw zombies are on the outskirts for flavor and two brutes are roaming the arena all at once. That kind of chaotic carnage
half plank
I love the idea. Need to have the hell stamina though, because no way is that going to be remotely enjoyable when the marine needs to sit his ass down every 20 seconds.
vernal crest
yeah, ||well he's a human after all||
wraith pumice
is there any way to make og Doom 3 take screenshots as png files instead of tga files?