doom-3

[charred fox]

[wintry olive]

https://tenor.com/view/foghorn-leghorn-cartoon-smash-go-away-gif-12773415

Attention <@&162901871168585728>, we have a bruh moment in #doom-3, I repeat, bruh moment in #doom-3.

Bruh moment has been cleaned up, continue regular activities.

[rare phoenix]

What the fuck happened here?

[scenic stratus]

A bruh moment

[wintry olive]

Some “repost this in 10 servers or you die” thing

Guess it was too dark to see the channel name

[hollow tundra]

how do I use dhewm3? what do they mean by "copy pak000.pk4 to pak008.pk4"?

[rare phoenix]

Sheesh

[warm pumice]

Go to your game folders and copy the files named pak000.pk4, pak001.pk4 and that until you get the pak008.pk4

[hollow tundra]

oh so just pak001, pak004, pak005, pak006, pak007 and pak008?

[unreal sleet]

I copied the whole "base" folder

[charred fox]

The doom 3 channel is an experience

[hollow tundra]

yeah maybe I'll just do that

okay, time to play le funni doom sors port

okay the game is running

why when I change the brightness it also changes my PC brightness

what is this witchcraft

whatever time to actually play

[scenic stratus]

I think doom 3 should have a graphics remake

[hollow tundra]

BFG edition

[warm pumice]

It should be

[loud fog]

Man i cant see shit

The fireball from that imp is the only light source in the whole world

[outer osprey]

Ironically it's a good light source, showing you where to shoot without even equipping your flashlight

[charred fox]

It’s a pretty cool mechanic to use enemy projectiles for light

[hallow lotus]

doom 3 moment

i wonder how you get the double barreled shotgun also known as super shotgun (kinda)

is it from the expansion?

[clear ridge]

Yeah

[honest lynx]

Its definitely always the ssg in my books

[dull leaf]

I'm actually playing BFG edition on my PC right now. It's fun! Actually a little bit harder than i remember. Having a blast so far, who needs the meathook!

[supple gull]

What rank do you have to be to post media?

[clear ridge]

no ranks, just post em in some of these other channels
or use a link

[scenic stratus]

Everyone stop playing doom 3, play quake 4 instead 🔫

[honest lynx]

No. No I don't think I will

[outer osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[unkempt wraith]

I scrolled up

[scenic stratus]

i got doom 3 for my ps4 a couple days ago after not playing a horror game in 2 years and im conpletely shitting my pants while playing

and my aim is garbage, any advice on how i could improve it?

[honest lynx]

Play around with your sensitivity

[scenic stratus]

thanks

ill try that tomorrow

Anything else?

[honest lynx]

Don't have to max it out if you're having issues with your aim

Start off low and bump it up when you're ready

[scenic stratus]

i will

i hope it'll work

because im scared shitless whenever i play

and being able to actually hit a target will help

thank you

[fresh thistle]

Gonna try and set a world record for Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3

[wintry olive]

Sergeant Kelly is gonna be waiting for like an entire week

[supple gull]

That's how long he'll have you assigned to the waste facility

[wintry olive]

doom 3 but nothing happens

[scenic stratus]

Get doom 3 bfg mods

[hallow lotus]

no

[scenic stratus]

Yes

[scenic stratus]

Original doom 3 no

[scenic stratus]

What

Don't buy doom 3 and roe on steam buys doom 3 bfg

I already played doom 3

Yes verry dark and bfg is verry good

I hate doom 3 classic and roe dlc classic on steam verry incontable

I'm glad for you buddy, good for you

[clear ridge]

og doom 3 is way better than bfg edition what are you tlaking about

[scenic stratus]

I wonder when the original doom 3 and its add-on will be dismantled,

[scenic stratus]

Not better bfg graphic is verry good

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DXsAUaVpLadg&ved=2ahUKEwiSg4_32dLyAhXOAewKHXDWAIgQxa8BegQICxAF&usg=AOvVaw1jhjar76wLxLjN3_sMTaWt

Original doom 3 is very dark

[clear ridge]

that is part of the point

doom 3 bfg is a weird compromise between the horror doom 3 and normal doom

[clear ridge]

and this will never happen

bfg edition has far from replaced the original doom 3, and it wont

[outer osprey]

Why does he want the game to be removed so much

It did nothing to you :C

[scenic stratus]

How do you know that?

How do you know

[clear ridge]

cause its the inferior version and all old versions must be destroyed, because it is the older version

[clear ridge]

its part of the atmosphere

and too much ammo

[scenic stratus]

It is not possible to change the bfg

[outer osprey]

wha

[clear ridge]

what

[scenic stratus]

Not coming doom 3 big mods

[outer osprey]

Bro not everyone wants BFG Edition

Original DOOM 3 is actually better in many stuff, it even has skippable cutscenes.

And BFG Edition is nowhere as moddable as OG DOOM 3

[jade inlet]

wait

[outer osprey]

Yeah it has mods but the original version is way more moddable because of its open source code and there already a ton of tools for it

[jade inlet]

doom guy died in the ending of the game?

[outer osprey]

no

[jade inlet]

what happened to him?

[outer osprey]

probably returned to Earth

[jade inlet]

because i think the last scene is palpatine killing him

[outer osprey]

bro what

[jade inlet]

right? or it was another person

[scenic stratus]

And the newer version when modes come

[jade inlet]

idk

[outer osprey]

when was the Palpatine ever in Doom

[clear ridge]

not everyone wants the newer version for the sake of being newer

[clear ridge]

you know who he means

[jade inlet]

idk the name of it

[outer osprey]

I'm gonna assume it's Betruger

[jade inlet]

the main villain

the one who turns into a dragon idk

[outer osprey]

Yeah Betruger

Maledict is his dragon form.

[jade inlet]

sorry about that, but he killed doom guy right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDzo2eS6ZlU&ab_channel=TheStealthGamer

[outer osprey]

Nah it's alright. Also no he didn't die

Maledict just appeared in hell

The Doom 3 Marine was on Mars and the other marines finally found him, he's probably on Earth by now

[jade inlet]

oh ok, i thought that scene from maledict was doom guy's vision

[scenic stratus]

Why they hate bfg, there may not be a multiplayer mode in it

[outer osprey]

Nobody said that BFG is bad, it's just not the definitive DOOM 3 experience for everybody

[jade inlet]

i thought that scene showing the other marines rescuing doom guy was some sort of prequel idk, i just saw that scene with no context and thought this way

[honest lynx]

It definitely is through vr

[clear ridge]

doom3quest

[scenic stratus]

We’ll see how it runs on the original doom 3 on steam deck console

[scenic stratus]

There's a good source port of doom 3

I remember it working better & looking better than classic & bfg edition

[clear ridge]

dhewm 3?

[scenic stratus]

Yeah

[scenic stratus]

Sorry I love original doom 3

Bfg is incontable donest bfg mods

I love dhewn 3 mod

[honest lynx]

Aim controller

[clear ridge]

yeah two handed controls suck in quest

[scenic stratus]

doom 3 enhanced edition

On steam

i like how they nerf the cacodemon so much in doom 3

[scenic stratus]

I hate bfg

Orginal Doom 3 is cool

[scenic stratus]

i agree

bfg is much worse

[hallow lotus]

rocket launcher in doom 3 not dealing that much damage to hell knight wow

[outer osprey]

lmfao

[hallow lotus]

is it just me or hell knight's health is like a tank in left 4 dead 2?

or the rocket launcher is poop

[outer osprey]

This

He's way tankier than in the other games

[hallow lotus]

bruh

how many rockets to kill them?

[outer osprey]

Not so much I believe but I suggest using the plasma gun for them

[hallow lotus]

k

[honest lynx]

Not many actually

https://imgur.com/a/QnCQBl1

[hallow lotus]

guess 4 rockets

[half plank]

I love the ragdoll effects in Doom 3. Haha.

[clear ridge]

what were the doom 3 expansions again

there were several not just ressurection of evil right

[slate gulch]

It was just Resurrection of Evil. Lost Mission was with BFG.

[clear ridge]

Ok

What was lost mission about

[slate gulch]

A survivor of Bravo Team shutting down a portal big enough to put vehicles through before the demons could use it

[clear ridge]

Ok

[slate gulch]

It's about 2 hours of pure action dense with enemies and weapons from RoE

[clear ridge]

Ooh

[clear vapor]

Doom 3 soundtrack was awsome

One of my favorate sound of all time

[slim stirrup]

Doom 3 enhanced had the doom ports

With the extra secret levels

Like e1m10

And map 33

[supple gull]

The Exis Labs in LM give off a 1950s vibe

[scenic stratus]

reminds me of gears of war 1

[rare phoenix]

Doom 3’s title music is really good

[clear vapor]

Yea I know

[supple gull]

Anyone else hear a Quake 2 hurt sound in the radio transmissions?

[outer osprey]

really?

that's interesting, which level?

[supple gull]

Mars City Underground

When all hell is breaking loose

[scenic stratus]

and don't forget about 2nd Menu Theme https://youtu.be/n-BJQe7-E2g

[charred fox]

Yes

[half plank]

never forget that the BFG Edition robbed us of it

[supple gull]

And the Xbox-exclusive zombie

[half plank]

BFG coulda been so good. Imagine if they integrated the Xbox content in. Added some new stuff. Tightened the game's pacing maybe.

[supple gull]

Or fixed the useless armor

[steep hollow]

feels like a paper shirt doesn't it?

[supple gull]

^

[scenic stratus]

i agree, why tf does the armor do nothing

feels like i put a piece of paper on my chest with tape and called it armor

[half plank]

basically

[solid quarry]

I am starting Doom 3 for the first time, do you guys have any tips?

[scenic stratus]

Use vanilla game data with Dhewm3 source port to allow for 16:9.

[charred fox]

Remember to check ur back whenever something spawns infront of you

And remember that imps like to fly out of doors sometimes

[tranquil onyx]

good advice in any doom game tbh

[charred fox]

Yea man

[solid quarry]

Thanks guys

[scenic stratus]

I have compiled RB-DOOM-3-BFG under linux

it works

and works flawlessly

I am very grateful to the devs for that we can skip scenes and ... the bethesda intro is removed when you run the game

not a fan of BFG edition, but it's still an entertaining process

[wintry olive]

Damn that’s cool

I might get Quake 4

[rare phoenix]

Where there any other games made on id Tech 4 besides Doom 3

[clear ridge]

Quake 4

[stray citrus]

Prey 2006

[rare phoenix]

Wasn’t RAGE made in the id Tech 4

[clear ridge]

probably

[honest lynx]

Id tech 4 rag doll best

[stray citrus]

not according to wikipedia

[clear ridge]

Megatexture moment

[stray osprey]

so i've never played doom 3 before. i own doom 3 classic and BFG edition. which one should i play? it seems like people are split on it.

[half plank]

It depends on what type of player you are. If you want the original experience, with the original mechanics (yes things changed), and the original everything, but are fine with opening up the command console to get the best experience, go for the original. If you are looking for an easy to set up, no hassle port, and aren't incredibly OCD on accuracy and all that, BFG is what I recommend.

[stray osprey]

what would i have to change in console commands for the original?

[half plank]

just stuff for widescreen and HD resolutions. its not that complex.

r_mode -1
r_aspectratio 1
r_customwidth [width resolution]
r_customheight [height resolution]
vid_restart

the exact process

[stray osprey]

Ah. heard. thank you!

[half plank]

make sure to know your screens resolution

[honest lynx]

If you want faster gameplay or a superior vr experience bfg. If you want the intended doom 3 experience og 3

[stray osprey]

im sorry for so many questions but what exactly are the differences between the two? i know i could just look it up but i like talking to the community about it lol

[half plank]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_3:_BFG_Edition

too many for me to accurately list

[stray osprey]

Damn! that really changes it up. seems like BFG edition is more action and classic is more horror.

[wintry olive]

oh god RAGE has so much pop-in

[honest lynx]

Thats exactly what they were trying to go for

[jagged lodge]

Wow, never played any doom, got a bundle with some of them on sale and picked this one to play first.

Damn, this one brings back memories of playing AVP2!

Just a shame I'm playing on ps4, so I can only play the bfg edition, would love to have tried the original one aswell

[half plank]

Calling the OG Xbox port the "original" isn't really true though.

[scenic stratus]

ye, the pc port is the og

[half plank]

it makes too many changes

[late delta]

Still tho

Doom 3 kicks ass in be

*vr

[covert anchor]

ik i just installed just a few days ago

[vocal dagger]

iirc I played doom 3 in 3D on the ps3 back in 2014.. I remember that x360 didn't have the 3D option.. Well I could be wrong but I jumped ship to the Xbox over the last few yrs and I picked up the slayer collection recently.. Didn't see the 3D option on it.

[honest lynx]

Definitely the definitive experience

[high holly]

Anybody here have doom3 vr? I'm wondering what it's like

[clear ridge]

@honest lynx

I will also be doing doom 3 vr on my oculus quest after I finish doom 64

[honest lynx]

Its extremely immersive. Tension and horror as well as action is cranked to 11 compared to the old way of playing. I'd reccomend a aim controller if you are on the ps. I won't be playing doom 3 the old way again

[foggy geode]

My sister says doom 3 has bad graphics 😐

[outer osprey]

It's a game from 2003. Of course it will have graphics inferior to the modern games.

[foggy geode]

That’s what I told her

[quaint rock]

Isn’t it 2004?

Still obvious that the graphics aren’t gonna be the best

[high holly]

Sounds sick, I'll pick it up when I get the aim controller

[honest lynx]

Tell her substance and immersion stands the test of time.. the majority of new pretty games will be forgotten and left in a pile of trash in a decade especially if they have nothing else to offer other than being pretty

Doom 3 is just something special

[rancid rune]

Yeah. It took doom in a different direction, but it’s absolutely not a bad game.

[solid quarry]

I agree

[last oasis]

only real reason ppl hated it so much is because it took away from that classic doom experince

instead of opening the game and immidiatley blasting demons you came face to face with fear, which is somthing the everyday slayer is used to feeling

[clear ridge]

people didnt hate it then
people hate it now because of doom 2016

[last oasis]

i didnt hate it but i very well knew people who did

regardless you have to appreciate it

its what revitalized doom to make it what it is today, without the jump to the next generation technolagy doom could have very well just died off

thank god it didnt

[clear ridge]

well

[outer osprey]

moreso after Eternal

[clear ridge]

cause thats when the zoomers really started to pile in

[outer osprey]

wow there's no dash or meathook in doom 3 wtf!

trash game 0/10

[clear ridge]

doom eternal fans when there is no meathook in doom 2 rpg

[rare phoenix]

I used to share a similar opinion on Doom 3 until I played it more and realized it’s not a bad game by any means. Actually had fun with it

[last oasis]

im not saying its a bad game from the perspective of the game itself from a horror game, but when you turn it on and play it, it doesnt feel like doom. thats why ppl didnt like it so much

[rare phoenix]

If Doom 3 was sold under a different name probably wouldn't have the reputation it does now

[last oasis]

for sure

[clear ridge]

they did like it when it came out

its just because of 2016 and eternal people dislike it retroactively

[honest lynx]

No one " hated it" until 2016 came out. Trust me I was there

[last oasis]

yea like it wasnt instantlly hated

it earns its respect

and 2016 wouldn't be here without doom 3

[clear ridge]

well i wouldnt say that 2016 wouldnt exist without it

kinda depends what you mean by that

[shadow fossil]

i'd say doom 3 is a good game

as someone who played 3 before 2016 i liked the scarier atmosphere that 3 had, and as far as gameplay went it was fun and i'd say that as a reboot doom 3 did a good job

although some of my friends who have only played eternal claim that all the other doom games are inferior, even classic

[clear ridge]

zoomers

[shadow fossil]

as far as lineage goes i think that doom 3's reception both past and present helped show id and Bethesda what they needed to fix for 2016

[shadow fossil]

yeah they can be kinda obnoxious sometimes
"2016 doesn't have fast-paced combat and the pistol is bad"

[last oasis]

demons

it was just a bummer to me when i first played it because i hopped right off doom 64 into doom 3 and it was not what i thought it was gonna be

[clear ridge]

lol

[last oasis]

i just gotta say that 64 had some weird ass Pain elemental's

[honest lynx]

Thats what we like to call noobs

[supple gull]

Doom 3 had lots of worldbuilding

[supple gull]

I once read a post where someone slammed weapon mods. "Weapons don't need mods, they should be unchanged the whole game."

[shadow fossil]

if the player doesn’t like mods then they can just fire without the mods ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[clear ridge]

Well it really depends on the game
Sometimes the players job is made a lot harder if they don’t use a specific mod

Don’t know if that’s how it works in doom 2016 but it probably works that way in some other game

[versed estuary]

Yeah it’s like that in 2016

Eternal too

Although a little more balanced in eternals case

[shadow fossil]

mods make guns more powerful in 2016, but if there's a player who doesn't like mods then they can just fire without the mods

that's always an option although it is the illogical one

[clear ridge]

Yes but sometimes that mod is almost required so that argument falls apart if you get too close into it

[shadow fossil]

true

if you try to avoid mods you are sorta just making the game harder on yourself

[clear ridge]

Maybe weapons mods aren’t a bad thing and this guy is dumb but just saying “well don’t use them” is also kinda dumb

Depending on the game

[versed estuary]

Yeah the games include many balance around using mods in your arsenal. I can understand why some people don’t wanna use mods, but not using them can severely diminish dps and ability to kill things

[shadow fossil]

if someone truly believes that mods were unnecessary and that the guns should just have one firing mode then they could just play while not using them i guess
that's what i'm saying i'm not trying to say anything against mods since they're one of the advantages you can get in a game like 2016 or eternal

[clear ridge]

Mods as a game concept?

[shadow fossil]

i don't really see the point to slamming a feature that isn't required for doom

[clear ridge]

Maybe not doom but as a more general statement

[versed estuary]

While not required, I would say doom is balanced quite a bit around them

Especially eternal

[clear ridge]

Like if without a certain mod it took like 100 hits to kill a cacodemon because the developer really wanted players to use mods, then saying “well don’t use them” in response to criticism of the idea is weird

[shadow fossil]

if someone just really hated the mods for doom for some reason, i'd say to just play without the mods if that person felt inclined to do so, not to slam the game honestly if they want to play in a counterintuitive manner then that's their choice if they get stuck because they don't want to use the weapon mods that's their problem you know

[clear ridge]

I think we aren’t understanding what this guy is criticizing

[shadow fossil]

mods were one of the more fun parts of the game because you had new ways to use the same gun

[clear ridge]

Whether it’s the specific doom mods or gun mods as a concept in videogames

[shadow fossil]

doom mods

[clear ridge]

Ok

[shadow fossil]

if a doom player had something really against using the doom weapon mods then i'd tell them to just not use the mods if they wanted to do that

it's how they want to experience the game after all

[versed estuary]

True. But they will notice a degree of difficulty increase

[shadow fossil]

yeah

maybe they like having that extra challenge?

[versed estuary]

Up to them of course. But they then can’t complain game is too hard for not using all the tools

[shadow fossil]

yeah the game is literally giving you a hand and you're slapping it away expecting the game to be the same without help

[rare phoenix]

The weapon mods are such a neat feature. They add variety to encounters and such. I get most people just want the static weapon and not have to use all this stuff but at least it’s not like Apex Legends or Call of Duty with tons of sights, clips, barrels etc.

[shadow fossil]

not using the weapon mods and just using the default firing modes just make the game harder for yourself, but if that's how someone else wanted to play doom i can't really tell them otherwise

[rare phoenix]

Even though the mods are pretty cool but to each there own I guess

[honest lynx]

Need to give phobos a go

[rare phoenix]

Is the Super Shotgun in Resurrection of Evil any good? I’m skeptical cause of how the base games Shotgun works

[slate gulch]

It is the best

[rare phoenix]

Good. How it should be

[honest lynx]

The doom 3 ssg is one of the best in the series

[versed estuary]

This

[outer osprey]

It one-shots Cacodemons and Revenants.

By a point-blank shot of course

[clear ridge]

This? This what? This dick? Use proper grammar you troglodyte ||I am joking||

[outer osprey]

This is Sparta.

[versed estuary]

BANNED

[clear ridge]

[versed estuary]

Spread is what? It has a tight spread wym

[clear ridge]

He’s thinking of the shotgun still probably

[clear ridge]

Is it like the doom 2 super shotgun

I mean the doom 2 super shotgun

That has a bit of spread

No doom 2 super shotgun had vertical spread

A a fair bit of spread too much more than the shotgun

You can’t snipe with it

[outer osprey]

yeah the Doom 2 SSG actually wasn't that good unless you do a point-blank hit, just like the DOOM 3 ssg lmao

[clear ridge]

Well not point blank
You still had a half decent range

Doom 2 ssg is way better than doom 3 shotgun

But doom 2 shotgun still had spread

[outer osprey]

I feel like enemies aren't that weaker like you say tbh. Since they require a lot with normal weapons like the combat shotgun and SMG sometimes.

Hell Knight requires five rockets and etc

[indigo jetty]

I like the DOOM 3 Cacodemons

[craggy brook]

they are different from the originals, but in a good way

[indigo jetty]

Yep

I like the Mancubus in DOOM 3 as well

[shadow fossil]

the cacodemon in doom 3 was a nice look imho

and the doom 3 mancubus definitely felt a lot more unnerving in appearance than the one from 2 and eternal

that being said the 2016 incarnations of the mancubus and cacodemon are probably my favorite

i think it was pretty cool for the demons in 2016 to just have glazed eyes without pupils

made them look more menacing

[copper mirage]

doomb htree shootgn

laugh

[outer osprey]

hahahahaha

alright that was a good laugh

[copper mirage]

[supple gull]

Dloom Twree

[charred fox]

[eternal glade]

Which is better, DOOM 3 or DOOM 64

[half plank]

64

[indigo jetty]

DOOM 3 is possibly the most underrated DOOM game.

[tranquil onyx]

This is a common misconception. In 2004 Doom 3 was the shit. It wasn't until 2016 came out that everyone started poo-pooing it

[indigo jetty]

I loved DOOM 3

I thought it was good, apart from the ending

Because Dr Vertruger doesn't get disposed of until Ressurection Of Evil

[rancid rune]

I feel like I’m doom 3, the only really dangerous enemy is the hell knight

[indigo jetty]

True

[tranquil onyx]

In pretty much all doom games, there are no individually dangerous demons. it's the horde that is dangerous

[rancid rune]

I mean, fair point, but they act like mini bosses

[indigo jetty]

Yeah

[clear ridge]

They are the bruiser brothers lite

[hazy sentinel]

D3 is the game that I played a lot before touching Eternal and 2016.

[outer osprey]

I found 3 to be way more interesting myself.

[supple gull]

Doom 3 shotgun spread seemed to have gotten lots of people killed (not players, people in-universe)

[rare phoenix]

I mean… It also got quite a few players killed as well

[unique ridge]

The best version of doom 3 is the original xbox version

Change my mind

[supple gull]

Can't disagree.

They actually fixed the armor on Xbox version.

[outer osprey]

damn everyone talking about doom 3 xbox version being the best, now I'm curious if there's a mod that implements xbox port shit in the pc one

[supple gull]

I wish

There's even a zombie type exclusive to the Xbox version

[half plank]

Not sure if it's just me, but things feel beefier on Xbox. Imps take around 1 more shotgun shot than PC it feels like.

I want a mod that adds the exclusive content from Xbox in. I wanna see Campbell wreck the archie in HD dammit.

The ultimate Xbox + PC version mod.

[slate gulch]

The Ultimate Doom 3 you say

[half plank]

Featuring new episode Thy Brightness Levels Consumed

[slate gulch]

Featuring Loster Missive

[charred fox]

It can one shot quite a few things

Kills an archvile in 2-3 hits

Most powerful melee weapon in the game

[clear ridge]

lol

[supple gull]

Ultimate Doom 3 should give you an option to choose between vanilla Doom3guy, ROEguy, or LMguy

[supple gull]

I was thinking for cutscenes, but on second thought

Scratch that. It should add the Xbox-exclusive zombie to the PC port instead.

[charred fox]

I like roe guy quite a bit

[outer osprey]

He looks very angry

Kinda reminds me of the Doom Slayer

Not to mention that he glory-killed Maledict

[supple gull]

ROEguy managed to at least kill Ol' Berty

[scenic stratus]

is there a way to view demon models in doom 3

[honest lynx]

I don't actually think this haha

[late delta]

anyone know if the Phobos mod will ever be ported to dhewm3

[charred fox]

He fed maledict his last dinner

[scenic stratus]

DOOM 3 big edition is 9 years old

And DOOM 3 original is 17 years old

[half plank]

please stop.

[outer osprey]

big edition

[honest lynx]

Big bright boy edition

[half plank]

Big Fricking Game

[scenic stratus]

Big Damn File Size

[rocky bolt]

Does anyone know what the weird voices were saying to "come over here"?

Is it the boss fight I just beat literally 2 minutes ago?

[supple gull]

No it's something else

Anyways the pistol is pretty useless in vanilla Doom 3

[hushed abyss]

I could tell you but it'll be a spoiler, kind of.

[rocky bolt]

Don't tell me I was wondering 👍

[rare phoenix]

I wanna see the original Spider Mastermind fight remade in Doom 3.

[tranquil onyx]

I like that Doom 3 mostly keeps to the smaller demons

it mades for a better more dramatic crescendo

[supple gull]

The closest we have to Spider Mastermind is the Vagary

[tranquil onyx]

because of that one challenge in the Necropolis where you have to kill a mancubus with a pistol

right but it's an answer to your question 🙂

that one challenge and the one weapon point that come with is is worth spending 9 weapon points and all the time and effort to get the mast'ry

yeah the idea is that demons are super tough

[scenic stratus]

So, I've been playing Doom 2016 and the original Doom for quite a while. And I wonder, is Doom 3 worth it?

[outer osprey]

are you fond of the action horror genre? because DOOM 3 is less arcadey than the rest of the games and way gritter and darker.

[honest lynx]

Exactly

[white kelp]

burrok

burrock

[wraith echo]

there is a quad damage in the dead simple arena, where like 12 mancubi spawn

[scenic stratus]

Sure, I love dark and gritty horror action games, but, at least, is it a good Doom game?

[tranquil onyx]

yes

tbh i don't love doom or doom 2 but that's probably just because I didn't play them when I was 3

[scenic stratus]

Sounds good and all, but if I wanna get Doom 3 some day, should I get the bfg version?

OOoooohhhh, sounds interesting 😮

[tranquil onyx]

nostalgia

[scenic stratus]

Wow, from what Im reading the description of the bfg edition, it's like Doom: The Doomguy Collection 😄 (it has doom 1 2 and 3 remastered :3)

[tranquil onyx]

I prefer not-BFG. Half of the gameplay around Doom 3 revolves around your inability to see clearly in the dark. BFG swaps up the color palette to be more accessible, at the cost of much of the horror element

do you understand how nostalgia works? it give you the Warm Fuzzies

[scenic stratus]

Maybe get standard edition of doom 3 and bfg edition at the same time 🤔

I mean, that's what I'll do hehe

[edgy basin]

Doom 3 is the only doom game i’ve never ended its campaign

[outer osprey]

Doom 3 is the first doom game I've finished its campaign

[copper mirage]

doomb tree shootgun 🤣 🤣 🥵

[honest lynx]

One of the best ssgs in the series

[hollow tundra]

hey, how do I use mods in doom 3?

[hollow tundra]

nvm I figured it out

apparently I have to put the mods in the same folder as the exe

and that is very unorganized, its painful to me

[supple gull]

Dhewm Twee

[copper mirage]

dhewm tree horor!! 🤣🤣🤣 bad,!

my penis is extraordinarily flaccid

[charred fox]

[half plank]

Docotr Palpatine!!! 🤣

[loud fog]

Huh

[fathom fog]

you're both equally as much of a Tard.

[half plank]

Thank you.

[hollow tundra]

I now am re-installing doom 3 on steam cuz I think that installing doom BFA on my non-BFG doom 3 messed it up or something

you gotta be sure before you start taking risks, you know

[hollow tundra]

aaaaand wow, nothing happened, everythings still there

[hollow tundra]

doom 3 is now actually a pretty fun game

its a good horror game, and the parts where you shoot things is fun

[scenic stratus]

How it works original doom 3 on steam deck

????

[tranquil onyx]

Probably like every other game... but steam deck isn't even out yet

[scenic stratus]

And if it is incintable or does not start

[tranquil onyx]

uhhh

you do not have a steam deck unless Valve gave you like a promo of it... in which case you would currently be in the Valve office

because that's the only place you can test one

[scenic stratus]

Okay is compatible steam deck resolution is 1280x800

[tranquil onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-gif-10188678

[hollow tundra]

I think its 1920x1080

anything could happen

[scenic stratus]

Steam deck maximum resolution is 1280x800

Is potato handheld mini pc

Steam deck

[tranquil onyx]

I can't tell if you want a steam deck or if you came here to shit on it

[versed estuary]

16gb ram
Potato pc

I don’t think u know what potato means

As for how would it run

By hitting play?

[slate gulch]

Also the chip in it seems comparable to an Xbox One S

[tranquil onyx]

Well the screen has a hard-capped refresh rate of 60hz which should free it up to do other stuff

It's head and shoulders better than the switch

[versed estuary]

Leaps and bounds

On medium settings it can run eternal at 60fps

Plus with steamdeck, I’m sure for most games you could actually choose.
Truly high detail level and graphics at 30fps
Or lower settings at 60fps. But those visuals would still be better than switch

Of course older games could do full 60fps and max graphics

Like doom 3

[tranquil onyx]

The thing that REALLY excites me about steam deck is that one of the developers for it says that the advances they made to make it are "relevant to the future of VR"

Which is enough to get me speculating that Valve's next Index will be maybe a standalone, or at least wireless to compete with the Quest 2

[versed estuary]

Fun fact steam deck cna support ray tracing and VR

But it’s uh, not exactly recommended XD

[tranquil onyx]

lmao

I own a valve index and i fuckin LOVE it

[versed estuary]

It’s strong but not that strong

Let’s go to #general

[tranquil onyx]

sure

[wintry olive]

if you connected an index to it the console would fly all over the place

[honest lynx]

Doom 3 vr best doom 3. I honestly did not expect it to be that immersive. I was blown away and videos on it don't give it justice. Running around checking corridors. Shooting left and right with my aim controller. I probably looked like a moron if someone was watching how much I was getting into it from the outside

[wintry olive]

some doom 3 weapons look like they have pro screens from Titanfall 2

[hot aspen]

Is it weird Doom 3 actually grew on me ? 😂

I thought the graphics would be a turn off but no I had fun

[half plank]

It isn't weird. Doom 3 kicks ass.

[honest lynx]

When you're in 3d the graphics will still make you feel in awe to this day

Especially betrugers face

[supple gull]

And the fact that human hands look like the fingers are fused together.

[scenic stratus]

just bought doom 3 and i already love it

im almost done with the game

[honest lynx]

Yeah if graphics ruin a game for you thats like 80 percent of the best games ever made out the window. Sad life right there

[scenic stratus]

tbh i didnt know you could charge the bfg until civvie11 told me

[scenic stratus]

"Marine! You just violated a direct order..."

[slate gulch]

Not my fault if we have PDAs and they still didnt bother writing what they wanted from the mess hall

[boreal adder]

had the same experience. I actually love how oddly shiny everything looks in idtech4

I've been away for almost a year now, wonder if anybody remembers me XD

[scenic stratus]

I've long since lost my og. Doom 3 CDs so thinking of buying it again. What do you reckon, get the vanilla or BFG edition?

[hollow tundra]

doesnt hurt to get both

but buy the OG if you can only buy one

[scenic stratus]

Yeah I might double dip. I used to use SikkMod with D3 and it doesn't work with BFG edition I think.

[foggy root]

plz help

i got a problem with doom 3

[honest lynx]

They both have their pros and cons. Bfg was obviously designed to be played faster

Og is the original intended experience with no cut content

[foggy root]

uh yea its about slayer club i cant access it

through doom 3

[pseudo pivot]

If you're trying to get the skin, you need the re-release version of DOOM 3.

None of the older versions (including all versions on Steam) have the Slayers Club/Bethesda.net connectivity.

[scenic stratus]

id recommend bfg edition because it has lost mission

[half plank]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-lost-mission

[scenic stratus]

[honest lynx]

Superior vr

[scenic stratus]

doom 3 vr is spooky

they did a great job imo

[pseudo stump]

[wraith echo]

man I wish I had vr

[charred fox]

I agree

[supple gull]

The UAC has unlimited funds but can't pay their electric bill

[honest lynx]

Right ? It's not like a demonic invasion shut down multiple systems within the first 20 minutes of the game or something

[wraith echo]

and its not like in the intro you see guys who are tasked with figuring out whats wrong with the electrical systems, and find that they died before fixing it

[charred fox]

They paid the electric bill……WITH THEIR SOULS!1!1!1

[honest lynx]

And now they burn forever!

[charred fox]

Yes

[loud fog]

this would be canon if the doom 3 Id thought of this quicker

[charred fox]

In a weird way it IS the story of doom 16

Since everything runs off argent souls

[tranquil onyx]

clean, unlimited energy

[lime osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890378804491587644/890596932249075842/doom_3_shotgun.mp4

[honest lynx]

Headshot!

[scenic stratus]

HOW

[queen arrow]

How do I kill the spider like woman

[scenic stratus]

just shoot her until she dies

[solar sinew]

Just shoot it lol

[scenic stratus]

use the plasma rifle

[solar sinew]

Yee

[honest lynx]

When the boss hype is longer than the fight .. https://imgur.com/a/1qgUCwR

[honest lynx]

^

[queen arrow]

I don't have it

And she throws stuff at me,am i supposed to counter?

[thick python]

The entirety of doom 3 in one sentence:

[carmine dove]

hate this boss so much

[modest shadow]

Good trick is to crunch just as she throws the item. Timing takes a bit, but her shots will fly over you

Crouch

[scenic stratus]

I forget, is Plasma rifle the strongest weapon you have at that boss? Iirc the boss dies pretty quickly anyway.

And yes it's always fun to have an enemy throw fast projectiles at you when you can't move fast enough to avoid them.

[modest shadow]

No, the chain gun is the best you have at that boss

[scenic stratus]

Ah no wonder I recalled it being a quick fight

[scenic stratus]

there is no problem running Lost Mission using Dhewm3 with vanilla experience

[scenic stratus]

just toss some grenades then

ez kill

[carmine dove]

i remember i didnt pick up the plasma gun my first time playing that boss, while also being out of chaingun ammo so i had to reload a save lmao

horrible

[honest lynx]

Yeah that's the way to do it

[scenic stratus]

forgetting to save in early doom games is painful

[charred fox]

You basically just gotta run shoot and then crouch under the projectiles she'll throw at you

[honest lynx]

Or just nuke her with the soul cube

The grenade. Fastest way I've seen her die yet

[scenic stratus]

use the bfg
kek

[charred fox]

If you play nightmare, right away

[honest lynx]

Exactly

[scenic stratus]

in hell, when you fight the hell guardian boss

[scenic stratus]

I've just realized recycling1 and recycling2 are the levels I dislike most.

only 2 disliked maps

[willow night]

"doom 3" imagine

[honest lynx]

Pure addiction in vr

[supple gull]

The UAC should've made a droid army

[scenic stratus]

When zombie-security talk in DooM 3 — for some reason they sound like israeli SWAT

[scenic stratus]

why do they speak hebrew lol?

[scenic stratus]

see how it's possible to obtain BFG gun in the beginning https://youtu.be/YlTHN9Hsn0Q?t=622

[wet pine]

hell makes stupid soldiers smart and every smart scientist in the base gets a brainless

[supple gull]

It's Aramaic

[honest lynx]

The writing is also Solomon text

[honest lynx]

Its a glitch

[scenic stratus]

i see.. it has same letters as hebrew and sounds the same to me

[scenic stratus]

rbdoom3bfg

[honest lynx]

Got to get Swann and Campbell killed but not really and bfg is dropped

[honest lynx]

There's also words they speak in sumerian and there are areas with sumerian on the walls. It seems to be a mix of both

[scenic stratus]

that's interesting

hmm

https://i.imgur.com/7zPzcOd.jpg

I've got RBDoom3BFG working under Ubuntu and Windows.
I wonder why the image is so freaking ugly, compared to bethesda's BFG Edition

I adjust brightness, it doesn't fix anything

[honest lynx]

The lights being that bright is way off

In that area especially

[scenic stratus]

https://i.imgur.com/yp4ohsk.jpg

enabled soft shadows, but still...

when I start it with console command — I get output saying OpenGL is initialized
I'd only expect this image from Vulkan (past experience with Doom 2016)

[supple gull]

RBDoom3BFG is BFG's equivalent to Dhewm3 IIRC

[hushed abyss]

So, ive only ever tried CSTDoom 3.
Since i've heard a bit about Dhewm3 -- is it better than CST? Does it provide the same level of fixes/options as CST?

[half plank]

CST has more options from what I remember.

[hushed abyss]

Based on my experience/knowledge, CST has alot of options. It has some great QoL options as well, which are optional.

[wet pine]

try r_forceambient

[slim willow]

Welp i'm back to Doom after a long break

@hushed abyss Sorry i never joined your streams again

Anyone know a decent graphics mod? Since i actually have a gaming PC now

[honest lynx]

Nothing can fix betrugers face

This is facts

[hushed abyss]

That's all good man. No need to apologize.
I'll be streaming it again at some point.

[slim willow]

Beautiful face line

[scenic stratus]

why does betruger sound like sheev palpatine from star wars?

[honest lynx]

Because you watch to much civvie

[supple gull]

He has a lot in common with Grandpa Sheev

[honest lynx]

I can't think of one

They're both old and evil ?

[rose patio]

how tf do I kill shit effectively

[honest lynx]

A good early combo is machine gun move close quick switching to shotgun blast then quick switch to machine gun

[scenic stratus]

flushing it down usually works

[charred fox]

[slim willow]

[scenic stratus]

Seems I killed the chat with my funni joke.

[honest lynx]

No

The elders are always here

[scenic stratus]

Wait a minute, so are all the grown-ups here? :D

[languid radish]

That makes sense :v

[scenic stratus]

Mean I love shooting the shit in Eternal chat as much as anyone but being 37 yo at times I feel out of place there, lols.

[honest lynx]

Age just means you've been killing demons longer

[scenic stratus]

Yes it does.
Besides I have to be honest, if some people didn't say they were 16, 18 or w/e I'd totally take them for older. Kids seem to be smart these days

And that sounded better in my head... anyhow off topic

[stray citrus]

Late 30s gang rise up (carefully so we don't hurt ourselves)

[scenic stratus]

Has SikkMod been updated since ver 1.2? I found a backup copy of D3 w/ SikkMod files

From my CD / DVD archives

Also can you remove the 60 fps cap somehow or is there a source port that does it, preferably compatible with SikkMod?

[slim willow]

I'm not sure

I only know that BFG Edition is capable of 120 FPS

[scenic stratus]

Ah right. I'll likely grab BFG edition then.

[slim willow]

Be aware of the issues

[scenic stratus]

yeah
if doom 3 is now canon, then i feel like theye gonna make a remake of a remake
which is just bonkers

[late delta]

cstdoom3

it's a mod

dont use the bfg edition

it's dog poo poo

[honest lynx]

Unless it's vr.. which is the definitive doom 3 experience by a mile

[late delta]

true

[scenic stratus]

What exactly is wrong with bfg ed? Asking as I'm not familiar with it.

[late delta]

It changes the experience

By giving you more ammo

Changing some cabinets around

Etc

[scenic stratus]

Eh, tbh not so attached to the og that such things would likely matter to me.

[honest lynx]

Also has content cut from the og version

But the ammo and more light does make a better nightmare experience. That's about it

[scenic stratus]

What bits were cut?

[honest lynx]

Certain sections and encountors. The sewer area for example

[scenic stratus]

Ok. Guess I'm gonna try cstdoom3 with my backup copy first.

[stray citrus]

Brightens the whole game which is heresy. You can equip your flash light and hold a weapon which is also heresy

[scenic stratus]

Honestly the flashlight thing annoyed me in the og. Guess I'm a heretic then.

same
love bfg edition more than og doom 3 anyway lmao

[stray citrus]

Welp. Time to prepare the trebuchet

[scenic stratus]

I can avoid it by hiding in a dark corner.

[honest lynx]

In vr it's actually attached to your gun but the light is only directed where you point the weapon.. so it solves that bfg complaint a bit

[scenic stratus]

Don't have vr. And to each their own, I can appreciate not wanting certain changes in remasters.

Even if said changes wouldn't bother me.

[honest lynx]

Honestly the only reason you should play bfg is if you don't have any other option or it's through vr. The orginal is just superior

[scenic stratus]

I'll play the og but the flashlight, brightness, ammo count aren't deal breakers for me.
Cut content kinda is, though.

[honest lynx]

There's always the duct tape mod

[half plank]

And heresy calls for execution!

[supple gull]

When is Doum 3 coming out?

[torn kindle]

Never heard of Doum

[honest lynx]

You haven't lived life until you've killed a imp with a ssg you're holding with one hand

[smoky hare]

2022

How to play doom 3 quest without being scared 😢

[scenic stratus]

be accustomed to horror games
dw its not that scary

[late delta]

Step 1: clog your ears
Step 2: tape your eyes shut
Step 3: enjoy doom 3 vr

[scenic stratus]

its not that scary ,the scares actually gets really annoying for me

[outer osprey]

eh I don't find DOOM 3 scary

just got jumpscared once in Lost Mission and that was it

but really, "scary" is subjective. some people find DOOM Eternal itself scary which is kinda weird but uh

[scenic stratus]

its not really scary at all, like FEAR it gets repetitive and just really annoying

i find doom 3 more stunning cause of its lighting than actually being scary

[outer osprey]

same

[supple gull]

The overuse of imps waiting behind doors to lunge at you gets old really fast

[slim willow]

Yep

[smoky hare]

Thanks I just beat the entire game twice

[late delta]

Lol

[scenic stratus]

lol

the only thing that scares me in this game are the unarmed zombiemen
theyre so unpredictable

[slim willow]

The slow walking zombies?

Even if they scare you they're the easiest enemy in the game

[scenic stratus]

no

the fast as crap ones who hit you with their tentacles that chip off 15 health

[slim willow]

Oh

[slim willow]

15 in Recruit

In Veteran and Nightmare they are death

[scenic stratus]

oh i play on marine and veteran

if you dont kill them fast, youre done for

[slim willow]

Yeah use the shotgun

[scenic stratus]

found that out the hard way lol

[slim willow]

Or in RoE and Lost Mission just use the SSG, it kills them easily

[scenic stratus]

back then i just held them back with a machine gun

[scenic stratus]

im surprised the ssg could get them at medium range

[slim willow]

Yeah it has more range than the combat shotgun

Which is weird lol

[scenic stratus]

this why we all love the ssg

[honest lynx]

Try it in vr... whole new ball game. I should be on the vr marketing team

[small hazel]

Alternative:

1. Convince yourself your the Doom Guy
2. Put on "Training Helmet"(VR headset)
3. SEND THOSE DEMONS BACK TO HELL

[torn kindle]

Doom 3 is bad doom

[wise glen]

I don’t like it because it’s slow lol

[wise glen]

Or just play 2016 lol

[honest lynx]

Its only slow if you play it slowly . Nothing stops you from playing quickly. It's also the first doom with quick switching. It really depends on the player. The last nightmare run I did was in 5 hours. And trust me it wasn't slow

[wise glen]

It’s a good game I just don’t like the horror element and the reloading

[wise glen]

Even tho doom vfr is kinda boring because it’s just one level

[honest lynx]

Doom 3 vr is an epic experience. Honestly I've done alot of vr even at actual vr arcades and this is the most fun I've experienced. It's intense and just pure amazing. Especially if you have the vr gun

[wise glen]

Doom 3 vr is supposed to be scary from what I’ve been told

[honest lynx]

Well again it depends. I've been playing 3 for years so even then I'm going room to room melting things

[small hazel]

You guys should try Doom 1 & 2 in VR

[honest lynx]

I can see how new players fall for the horror and just play slowly though. I mean the game tricks you into that

[smoky hare]

Oh wow never seen that, only seen the doom 3 quest port I thought the other one was also for doom 3

[honest lynx]

I've heard of vr classic doom. Never seen it though

[small hazel]

I dont know if you can load it up on PC, but if you have a quest 1/2 you can sideload it on there

[smoky hare]

Yeah that's what I was about to do

[wise glen]

That’s a thing

[small hazel]

yeah and I think it's pretty fun

[smoky hare]

My pc doesn't have a usb c port and I only have a usbc to usbc cable lol

[small hazel]

You can sideload stuff from your phone if it has a USB C port

[smoky hare]

Yeah I tried doing that before but it wouldn't read the headset on my phone

I tried 3 different cables

[outer osprey]

Man I really went to PS4 VR gaming places where they make sessions and asked for DOOM 3 everywhere. I just couldn't find it. Maybe one day they will get it. It's the most VR game I do wanna play.

[honest lynx]

I was on the fence because vr can be great or horrible. It felt like I was in the UAC. I got to a point where I freaked out for a second and had to take my set off because It was feeling to real

[charred fox]

That’s awesome man

[scenic stratus]

pretty sure the true horror of doom 3 is the shotgun

it isnt that terrible but pretty unreliable at times

[slim willow]

One of the things i dislike about Doom 3's story is that it just doesn't feel like 2145

[honest lynx]

It feels like 2060s Maybe 70s. Would have made a great prequel to new doom timeline

[late delta]

I’m pretty sure doom 1 takes place in 2022

[slim willow]

Definitely 2050s or 2060s

[pallid pivot]

Doom 3 es un juego interesante

No es tan malo

[slim willow]

An AI in Doom 3 would have been cool

[slim willow]

#753516685813874688

[pallid pivot]

Oh

Sorry

[slim willow]

If a Doom 3 remake was made it could be then connected to 2016 and Eternal

[pallid pivot]

In my opinión Doom 3 don't need a Remake

[honest lynx]

It would have to be enough time for a UAC base to be built Mars city and experiments to be well established

[honest lynx]

The moons of Mars

Anyways the timeline is a mess which is where the multiverse comes in

[slim willow]

Yes and no

Doom's timeline is just confusing

Like Hugo saying Doom 3 is canon caused a shitton of confusion

[honest lynx]

Its doable but they need to retcon the dates

[slim willow]

2140?

RoE 2142

[honest lynx]

Can't make the dates match? Throw multiverse at it

[slim willow]

I always thought of Doom 3 as a different dimension

[honest lynx]

I'm pretty sure that's what they're going with considering alot of lore mentioned in eternal

[slim willow]

Doom 3 Marine becomes a sentinel if that's even possible

[honest lynx]

Pretty sure he just got ptsd and ended up in a hospital hahaha

[slim willow]

Lmao

RoE guy becomes an alcoholic

[late delta]

I feel like they should make the doom 3 guy play some part in the story

Like waking up the slayer or smth

[obtuse coral]

Doom 3 Guy is somehow related to the Intern

[slim willow]

Best UAC soldier

[obtuse coral]

Maybe the Doom 3 guy is Intern’s father, and Intern is a big fan of the Slayer because he can cut through the demons that gave Intern’s father so much trouble in seconds

[slim willow]

Perhaps

And i'm back on my lost mission sweaty nightmare run

May Gougarus wisdom lead me

[honest lynx]

Doom3marine. Always

[honest lynx]

You got this

[slim willow]

I save scum a lot

[supple gull]

Doom3guy needs serious therapy

[torn kindle]

People who play doom need therapy

I need therapy

[outer osprey]

Therapists need therapy

[late delta]

The concept of therapy needs therapy

[torn kindle]

The fabric if reality will shatter under the weight of how many things need therapy

[edgy sage]

i need therapy

[slim willow]

The concept of therapy needing therapy needs therapy

[ashen shell]

Who is Frank?

[scenic stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-yup-im-always-right-proud-uh-huh-gif-14683537

i feel old

playin the same game for 30 years really does something to you

[slim willow]

Are the textures in Doom 3 normally bad or have they been compressed a lot?

[scenic stratus]

i dont find the textures that bad in doom 3 but yes they are compressed

[half plank]

For some reason setting graphics to High automatically puts them to the lowest possible. Same issue with Quake 4. You have to edit something in the config file to get it working right.

I played Xbox Doom 3. Not abysmal.

I liked the menus.

ow

[rustic mulch]

is it odd that my parents play doom 3 like every two days and they already beated it twice

[supple gull]

One really shouldn't have to resort to something like that

[half plank]

I absolutely agree

[supple gull]

Same goes for the shotgun spread

Devs patch games but don't even bother fixing things like that

[scenic stratus]

iTS nOt a BuG

[scenic stratus]

Just bought doom 3

I'm excited

[supple gull]

Never said it was, but it caused a lot of controversy.

[outer osprey]

chad parents

[scenic stratus]

sorry it just reminded me of a saying ive seen, "its not a bug, its a feature"

[scenic stratus]

when you use the shotgun, fire it at point blank

[honest lynx]

Make sure you go for machine gun head shots when you run into z secs. Wouldn't bother using the shotgun on them

[scenic stratus]

man
could barely get a headshot in this game
or any game

[supple gull]

Pistol becomes useless after first two levels. They shoulda let you get rid of weapons you don't need like you could in Unreal.

[hushed abyss]

Doom 3 is the best Doom game

[versed estuary]

I like this statement

[scenic stratus]

yeah
its just mostly used as a last resort

like in other doom games

[rustic mulch]

they also have doom 2016 but still havent gotten around to install it

[rustic mulch]

good for lost souls to not waste too much ammo shooting them

[scenic stratus]

it can be but it be so out of place from 2016 and eternal

[scenic stratus]

pistol is good when you are killing those slow zombies and soldiers but yea its pretty useless when you get the machine gun

[slim willow]

I agree, but say this in eternal chat and you will get torn apart

[hushed abyss]

Lol.
Whats the worst they can do...Disagree with the truth?

[honest lynx]

99 percent of those kids first and only doom game ever was eternal. Their opinion wouldn't matter

[glass haven]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-umm-what-what-gif-14694719

[honest lynx]

Trust me. I've been around a while

This is true

It all started when he asked about doom 3 and vr

Around 6 months ago

Then he broke his vr

[wintry olive]

I played doom on a DS when I was like 11 lol

[honest lynx]

Oh nice. I had a pretty decent pc back in the day

[scenic stratus]

Played most of them, still think Eternal is best.

[honest lynx]

The point is you need to play them all to form an opinion. If you've only played one and say it's the best that's just stupid

[scenic stratus]

Sure, just that even some of us old timers actually prefer Eternal.

[honest lynx]

Oh definitely. Doom 3 isn't my favorite. Kinda love the replayabilty and options of classic. Eternals horde mode looks promising though

[versed estuary]

Guys.
Doom 3 is bad

U can’t play doom fast in doom 3

Doom shouldn’t be horror
And doom 3 is bad

[slim willow]

Doom 3 should have had more OST tbh

I like the ambiences but some soundtrack could have fit in well

[honest lynx]

If you've played it and feel that way sure. But we can teach you how to play real fast. But you come here and never played it.. how many people have busted here in the past year alone?

[versed estuary]

Nah

[slim willow]

Doom 3 bad WAA

[versed estuary]

The entire theme of doom 3 would have been ruined with some shitty guitar and stuff in the background

It would have ruined the entire solo marine death March vs hordes of hell

[slim willow]

Depends

[half plank]

Techno stuff like when you get the chaingun

Not the entire game. During bosses or something

[honest lynx]

That would straight up ruin vr

[versed estuary]

There is no depends.
It’s why doom 64 doesn’t have screeching guitars either and goes with ambience

[slim willow]

Main theme during the final boss fight?

[half plank]

no, it wouldnt fit

[slim willow]

[versed estuary]

Final boss fight was already as anti climatic as is. Having guitar in the background woulda been awful XD

[half plank]

creepy, slow orchestral shit would be cool in certain parts of hell

I think?

Doom 3 just wouldn't work with metal, I'm sorry.

[scenic stratus]

Classics are always classics, very much timeless.

However I'm 100 % a gameplay first, everything else second-kind of guy.
The (very) short version of that story is Eternal wins the prize for me.

That said, over time I've grown to like and appreciate Doom 3 for what it is and was.

[half plank]

andy maximum doom is NOT a game, its 2000 wads they took from the internet. that is not a game

damn you, you win this fight. but know i will come back twice as strong or something, blah blah, etc. etc.

[honest lynx]

If you ever get a chance to do it vr do it

Something about beating a hard classic wad and crushing 500 demons in one area.. classic is always going to be epic

[scenic stratus]

Okay you got me haven't played resurrection but I doubt that would change my opinion.

Fine, not them either.

Doom and Ultimate Doom
Doom 2 and Final Doom
Doom 3
Doom 64
Doom 2016
Doom Eternal

Also I haven't played every console port of old games.

No don't have vr. Also i edited my message.

[half plank]

cant believe you havent played doom on gameboy advance.

[scenic stratus]

Must have missed a gem

[scenic stratus]

What was the greatest?

Should have guessed :)

[wintry olive]

RPGG

[hushed abyss]

I'll have to disagree. Doom 3 was all about immersion. Music would've ruined what D3 was about.
Being able to hear every ambient noise is what made it so damn good.

Some music for boss fights could work.

[honest lynx]

The hum... nothing is better

[hushed abyss]

Exactly. Even hearing the little beeps of machinery/pcs and the cranking of metal is great.

[scenic stratus]

I agree D3 works better without ambient music.

[slim willow]

Atleast the main theme should have had an official release

[hushed abyss]

agreed

[slim willow]

There's other stuff too like the intro

[carmine sonnet]

There definitely should have been light Boss themes, imo.
But the ambience works great for the game’s tone.

[supple gull]

The ambience create makeshift music, like in the area where you fight your first shotgun Z-Sec

[fossil owl]

Just recommended someone to play the original and not the bfg version (for obvious reasons) and got told that I shouldnt tell them not to play a version with qol changes

Basically just

"Hey, here's some pretty big gameplay changes that make the atmosphere and combat worse than the original"

"Shut up, it's just qol changes"

Bruh if you wanna play a worse version of the game, dont complain if its bad

[half plank]

if only it was just qol, lol

[outer osprey]

I agree

[slate gulch]

Removing enemies is not a QoL

[scenic stratus]

How’s this for a lore idea: Doom 3 is a prequel

[versed estuary]

Already been drastically disproven

[scenic stratus]

kinda wish it was tho

[honest lynx]

Its doable

[scenic stratus]

that would just mean doom 3 and og doom go through basically the exact same scenario

little point

as a prequel to doom 2016 then, yeah, maybe, but then you're just replacing og doom with doom 3 and removing doom 2 and doom 64 from the canon

quick recap of the canon storyline as it is now:

doom 1: demonic invasion starts in Phobos (other of Mars' moons)
doom 2: demonic invasion in Earth, Doomguy returns to Earth
doom 64: another demonic invasion in Mars because UAC tried to nuke the original site. Doomguy decides to remain in hell after the ending
doom 2016: doomguy has been picked up by sentinels, became slayer, dugged up by UAC and so on (demonic invasion of Mars part 3)
doom eternal: continues from 2016 (demonic invasion of Earth part 2) and basically confirms the above

Also I guess you could say, if you wanted to, that slayer reverts back to doomguy in the end of tag 2 (killing davoth removes the powers given by the divinity machine)

[hushed abyss]

Doom 3's storyline could work if there is time travel and an alternate universe involved. Similar to the Avenger's Endgame.

Where going back in time creates a branching pocket universe or something with respect to the main timeline.

Either way, i just want Doom 3 to be connected to the main story. I dont care if they never explain it either lol.

[scenic stratus]

Well it's an alternate Doomguy in an alternate Doomverse. That is to say it needn't be completely disconnected from the main story and imo it isn't.

And honestly with the lore as it is now, who tf knows anything any more 😄

[scenic stratus]

Some have speculated that DooM 3 is canon, because hell is a universal constant, and Doom 3 is in a parallel dimension, that’s connected to the other doom games through hell, as if he’ll can jump between parallel universes

[late delta]

I don’t think he reverts to doomguy, that would make no sense for doom as a franchise to have the doom slayer revert, plus it’s not stated anywhere that davoth’s power dies with him im pretty sure

I think he just doesn’t feel constantly angry for the first time since Final Doom

Which, when you’ve been a raging death machine for that long makes sense

[scenic stratus]

Agree it would hamper gameplay going forward, just a fun thought to speculate about.

And yeah it's not stated anywhere what I said happens

[hushed abyss]

While it is not clearly stated, it is implied quite heavily.

"If the dark lord of hell is defeated, any demon outside of hell would be destroyed". This explains that all demons (formerly Jekkadians) are tied to Davoth, the same way the Maykrs are tied to the Father.

"As all things were made by my hand...so too, shall they be unmade" and "By his hand, all things were made....even you".

It makes perfect sense that DS would lose some form of power/strength after his "Creator" was destroyed.

[scenic stratus]

Yep that's my logic

[honest lynx]

You have to remember the UAC trying to cover up a botched experiment only to mess it up again makes sense since after the og doom experiments going wrong the government steps in

[honest lynx]

This one works since hell can transcend the dimensions

[honest lynx]

Not a doom guy at all. Just doom3marine. Who probably ended up in a mental hospital after 3

[uneven dove]

I figured out how to fix the flashlight to give it more spread

doom three follows the story line of doom 1 exept he was a different marine

[honest lynx]

Well doom 93 was on the moons of Mar not actual Mars. Also doom 3 talks about humans originally being from Mars and running to earth after the first hell invasion. Basically highly advanced aliens.

[scenic stratus]

I think the gov steps in just because of Betruger. Remember Swann says "why are so many people requesting transfer off Mars..."

Etc

[mellow notch]

where final doom

[scenic stratus]

Okay you can add Plutonia between doom 2 and doom 64 if you really want. TNT Evilution isn't even Doomguy iirc.

[honest lynx]

For final doom the government comes in and takes power away from the board

[scenic stratus]

Oh i thought were talking about doom 3.... shit gets confusing real fast!

[honest lynx]

You're telling me hahah. I think I have it down though. 3 won't be to hard to fit in honestly

[languid dagger]

which game is doom 3

[viral briar]

Wait, so TNT Evilution isn’t also canon?

[languid dagger]

is it like the fith one

[candid dove]

i am the sevent hundred and fourty-third doom game from the future

*seven

[mellow notch]

let's count

doom
doom2
doom64
doom3
doom 2016
doom vfr
doom eternal

[honest lynx]

It is

Final doom is canon

[scenic stratus]

How?

[honest lynx]

The manual

[scenic stratus]

Ok

[versed estuary]

[late delta]

Isn’t tnt also the og doomguy tho

Just with a promotion

[honest lynx]

Tnt you play as someone called the marine commander

[late delta]

Couldn’t doomguy have been promoted

After saving all of humanity

[honest lynx]

Maybe but he also has a history of telling higher ups to fuck off

[late delta]

True

But I think it’s unlikely he has an identical twin who also loves shotguns

[honest lynx]

Hahahah you always have the same face. Rowdy Rudy? Kinda ?

[scenic stratus]

Doomguy literally got transferred to Mars for assaulting his commanding officer

[late delta]

Yeah but I mean in canon

It’s kinda up to interpretation I guess

But personally I think it’s the same guy

[honest lynx]

Canon its a high chance that doom guy was on earth for the new portal stopping tech while someone else was on the Jupiter mission. But it's possible. The reason it's the same face is probably because they didn't bother changing it

But they don't say. They do mention in tnt that you as the marine commander are in shock from seeing the demons killing everyone around you. All the info you get is you play as the marine commander in tnt but you're just a marine in final

[late delta]

Yeah but still

[honest lynx]

Its super grey so honestly without more info it's anyone's head canon

[late delta]

I just don’t see why there would just be some random other marine

It makes no narrative sense

[scenic stratus]

I very much consider plutonia and tnt "spin-offs".

[late delta]

Eh

They fit into the canon

So maybe

Plutonia happens before tnt?

Yeah

[honest lynx]

Rereading the lore. It looks like this commander trained the marines so well they crushed several demonic invasions with little lose of life

[late delta]

Ah

That does kind of sound like something doomguy might have done though

Tbh this is all confusing

[honest lynx]

See it's really grey but who else would know how to stop demon invasions. If not him then the info he had

They didn't lose the Jupiter moon base until a demonic space ship invaded after failing to go through conventional gates

[late delta]

Yeah

[supple gull]

The ARC must not have been trained in fighting demons if they failed.

[honest lynx]

If you don't spawn camp gates. Ultimate strategy

[half plank]

ARC was weak because plot reasons

[supple gull]

I forgot that they used airstrikes to kill Pinkies

[scenic stratus]

excuse me WHAT

doomguy didnt need any airstrikes to kill pinkies
all he needed was a double barrel shotgun

[craggy sequoia]

lol

[scenic stratus]

arc marines could probably beat 3 pinkies with a super shotty by just circlestrafing

[supple gull]

They just needed a plot device that makes them look stupid to justify why only Doomguy can save the day

[outer osprey]

yeah lmao

[scenic stratus]

ARC tried to destroy the super gore nest with a combined air ground assault iirc but apparently there were too much gargoyles.
But hey slayer was clever, he destroyed it from the inside.

[scenic stratus]

Does anyone know that doom 3 had a movie?

[mellow notch]

yeah,the 2005 one

not 100% faithful to the source material but yeah

[scenic stratus]

I wonder if it's worth watching

[mellow notch]

definitely better than the 2019 movie

[scenic stratus]

What 2019 movie?

[mellow notch]

there was a 2019 doom movie made in 2019 by universal and it sucks so much

no doomguy,just a generic "strong woman with no deep"

no weapons from the game aside from an ssg that is used like once

bfg being a fart gun

and much more

like,the only 2 types of enemies in the 2019 movie are the imps and zombies

and the imps look like a cheap-ass rubber suit

while the zombies are just people covered in blue paint

just go watch the 2005 movie

[scenic stratus]

Ok

[honest lynx]

Absolutely not. It's not even about hell or demons. It's a doom movie as much as little mermaid is

[mellow notch]

the 2019 one is worse

[honest lynx]

At least it was actually hell

But yeah. It was my ultra nightmare mothafakas

[honest lynx]

Well its about aliens on Mars who had extra chromosomes which would make you super hero or a monster depending on if you were a good person. It's dark though. Has a pinky I guess