doom-3

[half plank]

yeah

[vagrant holly]

Bethesda is selling the BFG Edition as Doom 3 now, that's fucking awful and we're nearing a point where the BFG Edition will be the definitive introduction to Doom 3 for new players

[half plank]

It already is

[vagrant holly]

so mods like this are important I think

and to make matters worse OG Doom 3 is not exactly future proof with its fps being hard locked to 62.5

[half plank]

I agree too, they should update the rerelease with it, it lets you switch between BFG mode and original if my memory serves.

[vagrant holly]

so if you want 120+ Hz Doom 3 then BFG is your only option, even on PC

[half plank]

Yeah

That's a problem

I'll still always stick to original 3 myself though

[slate gulch]

120fps and up breaks the physics

[tawdry sonnet]

And here I thought id was smarter than to tie game logic to frame rate.

[slate gulch]

It's enough that it's part of why Doom 3 speedrunners use BFG edition

Technically RBDoom3 for cutscene skips

[half plank]

120fps actually messes up game behavior?

like it makes it super speed on the 2004 version

but I didnt know it did anything on BFG

[slate gulch]

It's what allows them to do some skips and makes a few others easier

The movement changes also likely help with jump skips

Oh that and removing the extra enemies

For people doing Nightmare

[vagrant holly]

yeah, I think it's just the fact that in BFG you move faster

it's not affected by fps, just that you literally move a bit faster by default

btw the weird thing: there is a mod for Quake 4 that unties game speed from the fps but the guy who made it says he can't do the same for OG Doom 3 because the engine's just that much different.

[little raven]

It does in doom eternal

[half plank]

me who gets a fluctuating framerate

lock to 60 or lower settings to ass quality

[little raven]

I’m pretty sure the meathook and ballista boosting is timed to frames

[half plank]

Why Classic Doom is #1, interpolated frames while the game logic's always at 35 fps

[slate gulch]

Quake interpolated frames

[devout pier]

"They" Hmm I don't recall cloning myself xP

Oh, and yeah I am the guy who made that port (by forking RBDOOM) and the old_ammo mod

[honest lynx]

Nah no thanks. It's a superior nightmare mode

And since veteran is for toddlers I'll stick to bfg

[vagrant holly]

great job, thanks for da work 🙂

[half plank]

Reject BFG Edition

[honest lynx]

No.. I don't think I will

[charred fox]

There should be two doom 3 chats

For the bfg edition users Obviously

[half plank]

the bfg chat is the chat for people who are muted to confess their sins

[scenic stratus]

done

[half plank]

Thank you doom_plutonia

[honest lynx]

In all seriousness I think the whole hate for one or the other considering it's the same game is extremely stupid. The number of people who like doom 3 is low enough. No need for another divide

[charred fox]

Guess you could call this a

Bfg division

[honest lynx]

Owww! Yeah. Some doom fans just like splitting opnion and and arbitrary comparisons. It's pretty stupid. Most likely because they're bored. Just enjoy the games

[charred fox]

Yea as much as I like being an asshole I don’t think bfg edition is bad at all

Or worth hating

[honest lynx]

I do think the orginal is better way to experience it. But since I've played both I just feel og nightmare mode just isn't as enjoyable. That's about it

Still the same game

[charred fox]

Yeah

Only thing I’d complain about is the unskippable cutscenes in bfg but the cutscenes aren’t that long to begin with

And the downside with ammo being too plentiful

Is quite a fun downside

“Downside”

[little raven]

Whats the difference

[honest lynx]

The content cuts too

[charred fox]

O wow

[honest lynx]

Well you dont have to worry about a flashlight so your guns out the whole time. Plentiful ammo so you push more. Move faster. The point of the bfg edition was to shave off the horror aspects and they did an okay job. perfected it with lost missions though. Which is actually my favorite expansion

The problem is its piss easy on anything that isnt nightmare because of that. You're just running around like rambo

[scenic stratus]

Thats a nice joke but the longer the icon of sin stays on, earth the stronger he becomes

[charred fox]

[half plank]

[honest lynx]

Look at this morons name. Refuses to learn anything

[little raven]

Look at this guys name always uhhh

[versed estuary]

Original better for atmosphere

Bfg better for faster paced gameplay

[little raven]

Anti bob

Evil begone

[scenic stratus]

so original doom 3 is the best way to experience doom 3

[honest lynx]

Definitely

[little raven]

Ive only played one so I have obviously have the most creditability in this topic

[grave dock]

It depends, id say look up the differences

[versed estuary]

Original is best for the intended experience

[half plank]

Reject BFG Edition

[slate gulch]

Quake IV DMG Edition when

[half plank]

[vagrant holly]

come on, you don't need to reject Brutal Doom though, Brewtal Dewm is great with the right mindset

[honest lynx]

[vagrant holly]

all joking aside Extermination Day is a legit great mappack so if you don't like BD then at least try playing it with that one

[half plank]

[echo copper]

[brazen cove]

yes,im mod my bfg edition using rbdoom3bfg coz i love the og flashlight

[brazen cove]

i wish there have alot of mod for rbdoom3bfg

[thorn verge]

Does defeating the hunters do anything in RoE aside from story

Dude always be lifting that heart each kill

[slate gulch]

Its stealing their powers

[half plank]

your artifact upgrades after every one

[slate gulch]

Berserk makes every weapon do more damage and your fists kill instantly

[half plank]

When fully upgraded you can skip segments, lol

[slate gulch]

On Nightmare you'll need to know when to use it too, since you probably won't ever get healed

I haven't done it but I figure it starts you with every power

Huh there is a mod for putting Lost Mission in Vanilla

[half plank]

yeah, it fixes a lot of quirks too, fans made the definitive Lost Mission

[slate gulch]

Wish Classic Doom 3 had gone a the way

[scenic stratus]

shotgunners are so dangerous on nightmare

they can 1 hit you on 25 health

[scenic stratus]

I dleted doom 3 for downloading doom 2016

[teal apex]

ok

[scenic stratus]

give hellknights justice

[stable lake]

well
idk, they're the easiest in Eternal

[honest lynx]

They literally liked the design for the doom 3 hellknights so much from 3. They permanently kept its design as the offical design for the hellknights in the modern games.

[dire minnow]

I mean it was a good move
It would be boring to just have smaller, weaker, gray Barons

[slate gulch]

it took until 2016 for the Barons to really properly come out

bigger hell knights with shockwaves and a giant fireball

I partially don't like that Eternal already took that away

[slate gulch]

Lost Mission mod not wanting to work

[half plank]

doesnt work with dhewm 3

[slate gulch]

hm. It did the same thing on vanilla, but I might have done a wrong

nah it just crashes like before

Doom 3 BFG is giving me screen tearing too

[half plank]

do you also own RoE?

[slate gulch]

yeah. Launching it from that did the same thing

Its crashing because of a scripting error, too

at least, dhewm3 was. I'm not sure why because vanilla won't tell me. It just shuts down

Error: file script\doom_main.script, line 9: Unknown event 'setHomingMissileGoal'

the bat file also never did anything

alright so it randomly decided to work this time

[half plank]

is roe installed?

[slate gulch]

yes.

[half plank]

odd

[slate gulch]

now to try and get the thing to the settings I need

I tried to be cheeky and set the bat to dhewm3

actually someone had an autoexec so I didn't have to go through it again. Truly there are saints out there.

[thorn verge]

Won’t ever get healed?

[slate gulch]

you don't get the Soul Cube in RoE.

[thorn verge]

Can you tell me what each hunter does as a buff then please - didn’t know

[thorn verge]

Correct

[slate gulch]

you have to fight them to figure it out and you can't get past puzzles without knowing what the first one does

[thorn verge]

I mean I know the first one is slow time

I just presumed that was all it did

Berserk gives instant kill fists lol that’s funny

[slate gulch]

the last hunter is the Invulnerability Hunter.

[thorn verge]

monkaS

Is the second one that jumps w the heart in his chest berserk? I forgot

I just beat that one last time I played

Saw the achievement just didn’t get a chance to read the name of the hunter

[honest lynx]

If you do nightmare you'll get all of them after the first boss. Which is alot of fun

[thorn verge]

That’s POG

I don’t use the slow time often.. I probably should

[slate gulch]

on Nightmare you die if you don't.

[thorn verge]

Probably

I save vigilantly though - so at least I’ll have that habit 👀

[slate gulch]

that on Nightmare might end with you saving right before you get rekt

[thorn verge]

BuT iM oN bFg EdiTiOn aNd I gOt AuToSaVes

Get at me bro

[honest lynx]

The one time I deleted autosaves I got the delta 1 elevator bug

I dont mind them now

[thorn verge]

What’s that

[honest lynx]

It's a rare glitch where the elevator in delta 1 doesnt open allowing you to exit the level. So you have to restart the game if you dont have a autosave from the previous level

[thorn verge]

Very nice

[scenic stratus]

hellknights were cousins of barons

so they should look like them

[half plank]

why complain here? 2016 and eternal also use a similar design

[scenic stratus]

but doom 3 started

[half plank]

ok

I think Doom 3's design is badass. problem?

[scenic stratus]

yeah but ...

but reskinned baron of hells are hellknight

their horn disapeard ?

[honest lynx]

The fact they used the same sprites in classic doom has nothing to do with doom lore

Hell knights are one of the best designed demons in the entire franchise

[scenic stratus]

agree

[edgy sky]

The hardest thing about playing Doom 1 is there is not really anything between Cacodemon and Baron of Hell

It terms of durability

[little raven]

But this is doom 3

[thorn verge]

And it’s dark in here

[buoyant storm]

bring night vison

[neon owl]

i like the darkness in doom 3

[thorn verge]

Can’t - I’m too much of a bad ass and I don’t use helmets

[neon owl]

i like the og flashlight too i think it helps with the atmosphere

[thorn verge]

I just like shooting things

[half plank]

[worthy parcel]

Should I get doom 3 along with 1,2, and 64?

[little raven]

Ues

[scenic stratus]

Ye

[worthy parcel]

Ok

[edgy sky]

Playing Doom 3 for the first time, I was terrified not knowing when the first Hell Knight would show up

[scenic stratus]

Ye they are dangerous

[edgy sky]

I was all "is this room going to have the hell knight? Maybe in the next level?"

Finally they got an introduction as a boss right before the first hell level

[scenic stratus]

Probably the most dangerous in the game

[edgy sky]

I always really liked the Doom 3 hell level where you get the soul cube

Things got a lot more abstract

[scenic stratus]

Yeah game throws more heavy enemies at you

[edgy sky]

They also hide a BFG right before the boss

[scenic stratus]

Like archviles

[slate gulch]

Hell doesn't have archviles

[honest lynx]

They do in lost missions

[slate gulch]

I like the parts in Hell in Lost Missions, like the Martian temple or the giant crosses hell knight room

And the river

[honest lynx]

The river is epic

[frigid rover]

I wish you could have the OG flashlight on the console version

[slate gulch]

I wonder if you can load up Recruit and do a flashlight run. Well, not at the end

Now a chainsaw run, Doom 3 Tyson

[worthy parcel]

Is doom 3 good?

[slate gulch]

Yes

[versed estuary]

Yes

[charred fox]

Yes

[crystal mountain]

Yes

[half plank]

Yes

[honest lynx]

Yes

[proven moth]

yes

[scenic stratus]

yes

[little raven]

Yes

[scenic stratus]

yes

[outer osprey]

yes

[glacial glacier]

What's the best way to play doom 3? Classic doom 3, doom 3 bfg, or doom 3 bfg with the vr mod?

[outer osprey]

Classic Doom 3 if you wish for a slower paced action, Doom 3 BFG edition gives you a mounted flashlight, more ammo and also the DLC missions

BFG edition is brighter

[glacial glacier]

Doesn't that take away from the atmosphere quite a bit?

[outer osprey]

Yeah

BFG edition changes the soul of Doom 3 a bit

[glacial glacier]

Well in that case I'd go for classic doom 3

But I'm still torn between classic d3 and the vr mod as I've heard its really really good

Are there mods that restore bfg to be more like the classic doom 3?

[outer osprey]

I think that you can lower brightness and play on higher difficulty

Haven't found a mod yet tho

[slate gulch]

Using a source port like Dhewm3 or for BFG edition RBDoom3

Though vanilla is still workable with the right autoexec

Dont know if you'll find mods to properly restore BFG edition. It cut put sections of levels and effects and extra monsters flagged for Veteran and Nightmare

[glacial glacier]

I've searched for mods but I don't think they exist

Right now I'm leaning toward classic doom 3 but I might have a better experience with doom 3 bfg vr

[outer osprey]

If you want a more survival horror atmosphere go for classic doom 3, if you wish for a faster paced gameplay go for doom 3 BFG

[glacial glacier]

I'll have to think about it

[outer osprey]

Good luck on making the right decision mate

[slate gulch]

There's mods like Classic Doom 3 and Phobos

They tend to only work with vanilla

[glacial glacier]

I know there's a mod to restore the old ammo amounts

For bfg

For now though I'm thinking of getting doom 3 classic but if anyone else would like to recommend me bfg edition instead, perhaps someone who has played the vr mod themselves, then I would like to hear what they have to say

[barren socket]

Not really

If dicking around with a flashlight is considered atmospheric idk what is

BFG edition might be a little bit lighter

But original is good for mods

[glacial glacier]

Then maybe I'll get the bfg edition, I am a huge vr fan and I'd like to try that vr mod

[slate gulch]

The enemies have glowing eyes.

You also never needed double ammo.

[honest lynx]

Bfg was basically created because they half way wanted to back track the horror and slower pace. But didnt commit all the way

[slate gulch]

Slower pace if you decide to go slow on purpose

[honest lynx]

Still you dont have to put in any effort at all to go faster in bfg edition

[charred fox]

Imo they shouldve just gotten rid of the stamina bar

[slate gulch]

Always Run

[charred fox]

If they wanted to up the pace

Yes

[honest lynx]

They did a better job with lost missions

[slate gulch]

'Pick up the pace,' Sergeant Kelly said

[charred fox]

MARINE

YA gotta pick UP THE PACE

[slate gulch]

I wish the hunters had been in Lost Missions

[glacial glacier]

I was considering playing with a mod that restores the old ammo amount

I know that is a mod that exists

[slate gulch]

What if Lost zmissions had had a second encounter with Maledict with new moves instead of the guardian

[honest lynx]

Cyber maledict

[slate gulch]

I just went in the files and changed the numbers myself past I bothered too

[honest lynx]

That's where its at

[slate gulch]

Cyber Maledict that only the Soul Cube can hurt on Nightmare and you have to survive until he summons Forgotten Ones- with no Artifact

[honest lynx]

Hmmm soul cube puts it in a stun state. You have to switch to weapons to hurt it

Kill forgotten ones to charge

[slate gulch]

What if Lost Missions had a new item

Make one of those martian swords usable

[honest lynx]

Lost should have had it's own artifact like base and roe

[slate gulch]

The weapons can stun him but you have to run up and smack him, and hell be spamming attacks all over the place

[honest lynx]

Oh no.. we re turning it into modern doom lol

[slate gulch]

Doom 3 is now canon

We did it

[honest lynx]

Lost mission... the mission is to go to the depths of hell and free the one they fear

[slate gulch]

From the tomb in the Primary Excavation

They sucked it in while the hellhole was closing

The Doom Slayer is a permanent fusion of the two Doomguys, from the same process that made the Soul Cube

Actually Lost Missions does take place while Doom 3 Guy is still running around

[scenic stratus]

in lost missions do you play as a different dude?

[slate gulch]

Bravo team survivor

[scenic stratus]

oh

[slate gulch]

He doesn't do anything as important as him so hes like the Blue Shift Barney of Doom 3

[honest lynx]

You play as a guy who was pretending to be dead

[slate gulch]

How did that even work because look what they do to corpses

[honest lynx]

The wraith went to go wash his hands first

[slate gulch]

Now that I think about it

One Wraith pops up after five seconds, one runs through the door, and one leaps out from above. Those are probably the ones that killed his teammates

Now one where you play as Specialist Wilson

[vagrant holly]

it was nice seeing the D3 flashlight getting a bit of respect from Hugo on today's stream

makes me hopeful that one day a not-BFG Edition remaster will happen

[half plank]

hopefully

[honest lynx]

I don't see why not. Doom 3 has been getting alot of love lately

I'd love a remaster

[versed estuary]

I would like a remake

One that makes the events canon

[half plank]

me? I want a full remake, one that reimagines the game

My must haves:

1. Scarier intro, don't show us the demons until a few minutes of walking, let the fear build.

2. More speed, more battles and more movement would be great

3. Make hell a turning point, delta 5 onward can be pure slaughter for all I care

4. Super shotgun in base game

5. An actual OST

maybe my desires sucks, but whatever

[honest lynx]

Fast monsters option

I think that would be great

[half plank]

I want it to be more weird too, have environments that switch gravity and shit. I don't want a Doom 3 remake to feel like Doom Eternal, I want it to be uncanny and weird while also being an adrenaline-pumping action fps

I want Doom 3 remake to be INCREDIBLY different than the original

While also being incredibly similar

[vagrant holly]

honestly if I were to remake Doom 3 I'd just make it into true survival horror instead of an action focused game

[half plank]

I want an action game with horror elements, but I've already stated that, lmao

[vagrant holly]

but that's what the original game is and it kinda doesn't work all the way

it's not like I dunno, Resident Evil 4 where Capcom somehow nailed that action oriented direction without sacrificing the absolute core of RE

if you bring horror into Doom in a way that's not just in aesthetics (so not something like Doom 2016) then that will compromise the action mechanics somewhat

and if that's the case then really going all the way would be the ideal solution: deep resource management, limited melee combat, very scarce resources so you actually can't kill all the enemies etc.

and maybe let's not even have a Doomguy but some regular scientist as the protagonist

[honest lynx]

It would be easier to bring it back further into the horror element rather than the action. Which they attempted with lost missions.

[vagrant holly]

Lost Mission is mostly just carnage though

it's peak Doom 3 but still nowhere near 2016 or Eternal action

to me Doom 3 was always the game that tried a bunch of new stuff but none of those went anywhere because id still wanted to make an action game

[versed estuary]

Biggest issue is ammo

[vagrant holly]

it should be this weird survival horror spinoff imo 😄

[half plank]

you ever played dusk? mixes horror and action perfectly

[versed estuary]

What makes res so suspenseful was if you missed that hurt a ton

[half plank]

play original version then

for .3 less ammo

[vagrant holly]

Dusk has like one horror map, come on

[honest lynx]

Actually tried bfg with some rules. No picking up ammo unless you run empty. No sprinting. No flashlight. It was actually enjoyable on vet this way

Only one ammo pick up

[vagrant holly]

if we're talking action horror I think Clive Barker's Undying was the best attempt at that, that's a fantastic game with a weak last section but there the action is kinda like "hey I'm absolutely a first person shooter but these enemies will fuck you up bad if you let them". Lots of tension... until you upgrade your magic at least. 😄

if you play Undying on nightmare then the balance will be less messed up by the end though

[honest lynx]

Clive Barker like the hellraiser guy?

[vagrant holly]

yep

and the writer guy 😄

[honest lynx]

Noice. That sounds interesting

[vagrant holly]

yep, highly recommended and I think you can buy it on GOG (maybe even Steam)

[scenic stratus]

I Agree with the ost

[sage basalt]

Si me corre uqu

[scenic stratus]

I have to buy doom 3, pretty cheap on xbox one

It's a remaster I think

[half plank]

It's a port of the BFG Edition

[stable lake]

DOOM 3 (not BFG) remaster in the lastest id tech would be cool

[versed estuary]

Remake would be better

A ton of mechanics could be improved, especially enemies

Not very scary when they spawn in as a giant glowing spawn point

[slate gulch]

Add in Spectres that pop in behind you

Remember the emp section? Have an enemy that messes with the flashlight

[honest lynx]

They have 2 options for a remake. Go full out and embrace bfg and make it faster paced. Or dial it back to a more horror focused shooter with added features

[slate gulch]

Imagine how horror would work in Eternals engine.

[versed estuary]

Or hear me out

BOTH

like doom 2016
But slightly slower and darker more horror themes

[slate gulch]

Way I always looked at it was

It's a horror game, but you're still Doomguy. DMC1 is set in a Resident evil tier horrifying castle full of demons, but you're Dante

It can be full on horror but what if still adapts to your abilities

[stable lake]

but the game being DOOM 3 or a slight rewrite to fit into the Slayer lore?

I'd prefer an OG remaster

[slate gulch]

After all the shunning and neglect they dont get to just weld it to the canon

[stable lake]

it also wouldn't rlly fit

[scenic stratus]

How come my Doom 3 BFG Edition has blurry textures? The original had much better textures!

[scenic stratus]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/A9x4Ro

doom 3 on unreal engine 4

[honest lynx]

Id tech 4.

[scenic stratus]

doom marine has a really nice hairline

[honest lynx]

Unlike the guy he was based on

Who is a saint by the way

[scenic stratus]

wasn't the guys arms used for the original doom games?

[glossy quarry]

im really starting to love doom 3 i bought it yesterday or the other day but i love the style of it and the fact that the interaction with the screens is really unique

[shy summit]

oh yeah, doom 3 is a technological treat to be sure

it still looks great for the most part, even today

[scenic stratus]

Just beat Resurrection of Evil, again

[pure viper]

Anybody here familiar with Doom 3's developer console?

I'm trying to set up Classic Doom-like weapon binds (y'know, having more than one weapon on one button) and the task has been nothing short of a consistent brick wall.

[loud fog]

I remember someone made a browser version of doom 3

[shy summit]

seriously? That's awesome

[scenic stratus]

demo only

[scenic stratus]

What's the code from the supplies

I really need it

[little raven]

1

[half plank]

check pinned messages

[scenic stratus]

check pinned messages
@half plank thx

[half plank]

why?

[devout pier]

I had, what issue you have ?

Edit: had not have, I had compile it with VS2015

or VS2017 ?

[little raven]

Oh no someone hasnt answered my question in a minute I better post it again

[devout pier]

Quick before it gets cold xD

[honest lynx]

Doom 3 monke edition

[half plank]

[devout pier]

@odd jasper And the two versions I mentioned ? Also what kind of errors did you get ? (Plus why not try RBDOOM or BFA ?)

[devout pier]

As I said Check RBDOOM or DOOM BFA, they both are forks of DOOM 3 BFG and are updated and with more features.

[jovial lintel]

My friends give me shit for liking Doom 3 😢

[half plank]

Then they aren't your friends.

A Doom 3 hater is no good, and not worth befriending.

[scenic stratus]

agreed

[green ice]

good things about doom 3
hell knight model
um
um
uh..

[dire minnow]

Atmosphere
Awesome lighting
Chaingun
Cool BFG mechanic
ROE
Interesting demon designs

Timeless (at least for me) graphics

[green ice]

chaingun with a reload 🤨

soul cube and bfg mechanic mad cool, graphics are eh, but lightning is great

most models just look weird don't like them

[dire minnow]

Sure, I like them but I understand why people might disagree

[green ice]

they look disgusting lol

[dire minnow]

That's the point kiddo

[green ice]

i get that demons are gross and all, but they just look like mops lol

[dire minnow]

Haha ye

[green ice]

mancubi looks like a fat ghost with launchers
pinky looks awful, wtf were they thinking
sabaoth is disgusting as well, just ew

[dire minnow]

Mancubi swamp thing 😳
Still can't forget about their concept art
Even more disgusting but for different reasons

[green ice]

idk doom 3 just isn't my cup of tea

[dire minnow]

And there's no problem in that

[green ice]

there's things i like about it but most i don't

the ost in the main menu is amazing, i like it, and how mick gordon took some of the songs and mixed them a lil bit to make ost for 2016

[scenic stratus]

yeah like harbinger

[green ice]

hamburger

[scenic stratus]

so uhh why does quake 4 feel like doom 3

[green ice]

idk probably same engine

[little raven]

I never really got the chaingun praise
Its just fires so damn slowly and you never have ammo for it

Machine gun is better in every way

Basically every weapon par the pistol is more effective

[scenic stratus]

ah it is

but the maps feel same-y too

also that intro scared the fuck out of me

[green ice]

yeah I guessed as much

[slate gulch]

I've done Doom 3 on Nightmare but never done Quake 4 on General

[green ice]

favorite doom game?

[slate gulch]

That's not an easy decision

Doom 64 has the blend of action and horror I like.

[green ice]

yeah

[slate gulch]

Its why I go back to Devil May Cry, the first one, even if the rest are more action focused. I like being in a horrifying castle as Dante.

[green ice]

so doom 64 is your favorite

[slate gulch]

probably. It's the only steam game I got every achievement for and I've been meaning to do Watch Me Die with fast monsters

[green ice]

i played doom1-2, 2016 and eternal

didn't try 64 or 3

[slate gulch]

3 good. the expansion does what 3 did better

[shy summit]

Doom 64 is great, it has some pretty refreshing level design if you've played Doom 1 and 2 and the aesthetics are really refreshing

[worthy parcel]

Tomorrow is the day I get to download doom 3

Im excited

After school I'll grab my control and play

[dire minnow]

Have fun

[worthy parcel]

I will

[jovial lintel]

Nice

I prefer BFG Edition

[honest lynx]

Try psx doom next

[shy summit]

I'd have to use an emulator but I can try it

[covert anchor]

My dad is into older 2000's games, think imma show him doom 3 and see if he wants to try it out

[honest lynx]

I'm sure he ll appreciate it. It was one of the goat games of 2004

[slate gulch]

The only thing that displaced it was THE goat of 2004

[little raven]

Two of my favorite games of all time came out in 2004

So thats cool

[slate gulch]

to be fair to Doom 3 nothing was going to stop Half Life 2

[edgy sky]

I will say, doom 3 is way better now that affordable technology has caught up with it. Good for at least one playthrough, but it's campaign is surprisingly long. Arguably too long

[slate gulch]

it takes less than six hours

[covert anchor]

I usually can't complete games in 1 sitting before I want to do something else

[little raven]

Not many people do

[slate gulch]

There's a lot of shooters on steam I've done in one sitting that end up being exactly 7 hours

[covert anchor]

I can get halfway through half life 2 in a sitting that's my best

[edgy sky]

Well a first playthrough of doom 3 will probably have people reading the PDAs. Replaying it recently through I was able to get through the first third rather quickly until I dropped it

[little raven]

100% doom 3 speedrun

[edgy sky]

Eventually you become mostly unfazed by the horror elements and can treat it as a pure action game

[slate gulch]

not on Nightmare.

for pure action you want RoE and LM

[little raven]

Ive been playing roe nm in third person recently
You should try that

[edgy sky]

I've heard good things about LM

Never played the RoE expansion

[slate gulch]

do it

[little raven]

Its really great

[slate gulch]

it has new monsters, a new tool, much tougher fights, and actual bosses

oh and the super shotgun

[edgy sky]

I have Doom 3 installed from disk. What's the best way to get roe in that case?

[slate gulch]

oof

that would have been RoE from disc

[edgy sky]

Okay but, buying doom 3 and roe on steam now is like $10

[little raven]

Roe is 2 dollars

[slate gulch]

actually no, they're price is even lower now

Doom 3 is only $5 and RoE is only $3

[edgy sky]

$10 CAD

[slate gulch]

hmmm

[edgy sky]

Doom 3 now costs the same as Doom 64 on steam. What a world

[half plank]

yes

[slate gulch]

BFG Edition technically comes with all of it but cut a LOT out of RoE

[half plank]

theres a mod for original 3 that adds lost mission

reject bfg edition brothers and sisters

[slate gulch]

it also removed extra monsters that Veteran and Nightmare had

[half plank]

WHAT?

[little raven]

Oh yeah I have to try that mod now that I have a extractor thing

[edgy sky]

Oh nightmare had more monsters?

[slate gulch]

not more than Veteran, but BFG takes it all out

[edgy sky]

You know, I actually played doom 3 multiplayer a bit way back in the day

Yeah I'm skipping the BFG edition

[half plank]

BFG Edition makes me violently angry

[slate gulch]

also with Vanilla you can get dhewm3 to play it and RoE modern style

or grab an autoexec and get the best out of it

[edgy sky]

Modern style?

[slate gulch]

dhewm3 is a source port.

[little raven]

Ive never played bfg edition so I have the best opinion on this topic

[edgy sky]

Ah

[slate gulch]

dhewm3 knows all the Windows 10 things and modern hardware Doom 3 hates and doesn't recognize

you know how vanilla Doom 3 doesn't think any of your modern shit can do EAX Reverb? Dhewm3 fixes that

[edgy sky]

Funny, doom 3 disk actually installs fine on windows 10

I think you need a small patch or DLL to run it and you're good to go

[slate gulch]

sometimes it just crashes though. I'm betting it also had the old RAM limit

[edgy sky]

Possibly? I got to alpha labs pretty smoothly

Or whatever 4 part lab section there is before hell

[slate gulch]

I had it happen to me several times last year

I don't know what it was, though

[edgy sky]

I always found it cute how the game gives you tutorials on the BFG only after Sabbaoth even though there are at least three BFG pickups before that

(that you lose after beating hell)

[honest lynx]

I've played both. Bfg has a more enjoyable nightmare. Doesnt feel like a save scum playthrough at all. Base doom 3 is a better overall experience

[slate gulch]

Base RoE

[honest lynx]

Did you beat lost missions yet?

[slate gulch]

I've done Lost Missions before. I did it on console too last year.

I got a PS4 Pro when I didn't think I'd be building a PC.

[honest lynx]

Its honestly just pure gold on nightmare. And I'm not just saying that

Feels like it was made for that mode

[slate gulch]

I just wish it had a better endboss

[honest lynx]

So far maledict is the only boss I actually enjoyed.

[slate gulch]

I like the Hunters compared to what Doom 3 had

but the Berserk Hunter should have not been made helpless by Helltime, just more vulnerable

like what if instead it reacted to figuring out what you're doing and exposes its heart as little as possible, so you need it just to hurt it at all

[warm portal]

Ok, I would like to say, Doom 3 is growing on me

It's combat is pretty fun, (no matter how bad the shotgun is) and the reload sound effects are the most satisfying things my ears have ever heard

It's...

fun

[edgy sky]

I'm not a big fan of the machine rifle, but the rocket launcher is lit

[little raven]

Why do you seem surprised

[warm portal]

Because I've heard a lot of bad things about it, and especially BFG edition, which is the version I'm playing on. But, it's really fun

[little raven]

Most of those things come from people who never finished the game or never played it all

[warm portal]

I know

But it's great so far. I'm having fun with the physics and stuff

[edgy sky]

Best part is sending revenants and other big demons flying with the rocket launcher and bfg

They don't ragdoll, but instead act like they got shot out of the cannon in Super Mario 64

[warm portal]

Hehehe

[little raven]

Learn to use the shotgun btw once you get used to it can easily become your main weapon

[warm portal]

It's nice to use, but the spread is just....

ew

[little raven]

Thats why you get up close to demons
Its not a sniper rifle unlike the doom 1 shotgun

[warm portal]

True

[little raven]

With good positioning you can one hit anything weaker then revenants

I once took out 3 cacos in one clip which was awesome

[covert anchor]

Still find it hard to believe that the ssg was left out of regular doom 3

That's why we have ROE

[honest lynx]

I feel like it would break the base game

[covert anchor]

yah, but i would love to see a mod the balance's doom 3 for the ssg

[honest lynx]

Now if it was in base game and nightmare only I could get behind that

It would be a nice equalizer

[covert anchor]

They give you the soul cube on nightmare, why not the ssg right?

Or maybe they wanted tension in their horror game

[honest lynx]

Well I feel the ssg would help alot with the z secs which are just devastating behind doors and such. Having the ssg would even that encounter out especially

[covert anchor]

Imagine how easy the bosses would be in base game because of the ssg

[honest lynx]

They are already pretty easy it would be laughable

[covert anchor]

I don't think there are any difficult bosses in the first place

[scenic stratus]

There's an addon that lets you use the ssg

[honest lynx]

Yeah

[scenic stratus]

In the base game
But it replaces the contents of a backpack into an ssg

When i had that addon i just used them on pinkies

[honest lynx]

I mean more in the lines if it was in the actual base game from the start. It would break the game

[scenic stratus]

Yeah it would

Why was it not in the base game tho

[honest lynx]

I'm sure they play tested it and came to the same conclusion haha. I doubt it was a feature exclusively made for roe

[scenic stratus]

Probably

[scenic stratus]

Still haven’t beat doom 3

[slate gulch]

They also doubled the shotguns spread right before release. In multiplayer it only has half that spread

[thorn verge]

I still gotta beat Lost Missions

[little raven]

I’m started lm tonight

Nightmare of course
And since a glitch removed the soul cube I’m doing a no soul cube no nm run

[slate gulch]

weird problem with the mod there. Beats me why its happening.

[thorn verge]

... rather dumb question here: do demons get buffed in lost missions on level 2

I could just flat out suck - but I swear I barrel stuffed 2 demons with the combat shotty (right after unlocking the super shotgun) and they ate it

Or I guess they could be buffed just at that specific part to give you incentive to use the SSG. But most likely I just missed partly..?

Ya know what nevermind. I’ll just assume I sucked and missed
Overthinking that section

[blissful dune]

DOOM 3 is amazing. Its differenyt

[visual arch]

i

fucking hate how they made the pinky demon in doom 3

it went from your stereotypical demon to a malformed cybernetic penis

and i don't like the cacodemon either

when you think of a cacodemon, you think of the red cycloptic demon we know and love

not this thing

[thick badger]

i played doom 3 bfg edition it was uhhh funny when its supposed to be scary

you look at the mirror ooooo red spooky zoom in in guy

[scenic stratus]

yeah i know, wtf was that about

[green ice]

@scenic stratus love

[honest lynx]

It sure as hell scared me back in 2004 when I was a kid. I don't know what you're talking about

[thick badger]

rn if you put a 8yo to play fnaf hell be more scared than doom 3

[thick badger]

its cuz in the current years its different

[little raven]

Did you know about it prior

[honest lynx]

Most likely. Technology has progressed. It was one of the scariest video game moments of my childhood though.

[quasi spear]

2004 pc game aesthetic is my favorite and Doom 3 gives me so much of it

unironically enjoyed it all the way through

[honest lynx]

As you should

[slate gulch]

No one ever talks about the slamming door and that thing that comes out and locks it. My favorite evil laugh happens in the vent right after

[scenic stratus]

How does doom 3 multiplayer work

[edgy sky]

The main weird part of Doom 3 is the Ring-esque horror elements of like ghost children and reality warping zoom-in scare

Like, this is not F.E.A.R

[worthy parcel]

In 2 hours I can play doom 3 (I'm at school and have a hour drive home)

Yay

Wait it has multiplayer?

[devout pier]

You need to install directx SDK (june 2010)

[worthy parcel]

Does doom 3 have multiplayer

[dire minnow]

Ye

[worthy parcel]

Does the ps4 version have multiplayer

[devout pier]

No

[worthy parcel]

:(

Does doom 3 ps4 have mods

[devout pier]

The PS4/XBONE/Switch version is suprisingly an even more cut down version of DOOM 3 BFG Edition.

No

[worthy parcel]

:(:(

[devout pier]

But you get the DE skin

[worthy parcel]

:(:(:(

:(:(:(:(

[devout pier]

They have sadly taken it down. But you can find it on BFG's game files or the Steam Common Redist

Inside DOOM 3 BFG Edition installation folder there must be a folder named directx

[honest lynx]

Don't be sad. It's still fantastic. Now take this trite and go

[worthy parcel]

Ok sir

[versed estuary]

It’s the same game without the trash doom 1 and 2 ports

[scenic stratus]

lmao

[worthy parcel]

What kinda dame RNG is this shotgun

[scenic stratus]

i know

you get used to it

its actually useful if you know how to use it

[worthy parcel]

I fucking sniped a zombie soldier from far away but than a minute later had to use 4 shots to kill one at close range

[scenic stratus]

one hitting a revenant

[worthy parcel]

He probably had FIGAILE BONES

ba dum tss

[scenic stratus]

revenants hit hard in this game

but some plasma should do the job

[worthy parcel]

(back to the shotgun) close range combat my ass

Also zombie soldiers need nerf

[scenic stratus]

fuck them

the most dangerous in the game next to hell knights

[little raven]

I would say the hitscanners are the most dangerous enemy but their not hitscanners

[worthy parcel]

My pistol: slow

Zombie soldier pistol: like a mini gun conected to a car battery and 3 extra moters

NOOOOOOOO

[little raven]

With my powers of deduction
I deduce something bad just happened

[worthy parcel]

They broke super turbo turkey puncher 3

F

Every one give an F for the fallen

It's in a better place now

Welp that zombie soldier was the last jumpscare that was just me getting spooked by a enemy for tonight

Good night peace and F for super turbo turkey puncher 3

I just realized I talk to much and should shut up sorry

[scenic stratus]

You need to install directx SDK (june 2010)
@devout pier like, I have it in game, and it even shows all the servers, yet I've got it from steam

[scenic stratus]

https://youtu.be/VJEy2ybO3To

amazing DooM 3 experience in DooM II

I deleted DooM Eternal several months ago. Also sold my PlayStation 4 Pro.

no regrets

[dire minnow]

Sir, this is #doom-3

[scenic stratus]

can you read the title of video?

it's related

[dire minnow]

I meant your message about getting rid of your Ps4 and DOOM Eternal
It isn't related to DOOM 3

[scenic stratus]

ah. I meant I sold it because it sucks. so also does eternal

[dire minnow]

Yeah
But it isn't related to DOOM 3

[scenic stratus]

"Watch your every message!"

got it

and in that message I'm just comparing experience of newest DooM with old school badass gaming with mods

[shadow solar]

Does anyone here have doom 3 on steam?

[frosty holly]

yes

[teal apex]

not one person

not a single person in doom server has purchesed doom game

[little raven]

Steam isnt real

Its a figment of your imagination

[scenic stratus]

My doom 3 froze every time I start

I play the switch version

I deleted and installed 2 times

I ask in Spanish chat room and say me the same to delete and install

[honest lynx]

Your only option is to go to Japan. Kick marios ass

[charred fox]

Yeah!

[scenic stratus]

It’s has sense

[shadow solar]

Can someone with doom 3 dm me I need a few files

[scenic stratus]

BFG seems to have a coop

https://www.moddb.com/mods/librecoop-bfg-edition

[honest lynx]

Very nice

[scenic stratus]

It’s a multiplayer?

Yes

[scenic stratus]

Nice

[peak urchin]

Bunny die hahahaha

[loud fog]

i am gonna shid myself because of doom 3

[wild shuttle]

Yes

[scenic stratus]

Just beat Lost Mission

Of all campaigns the main is my favorite

[knotty folio]

Have you ever read what the guy at the reception at the beginning of doom 3 is actually typing?

[half plank]

its funny, you guys should do it

stand behind him as he types

[scenic stratus]

I !!!

am !!!

the nightmare of Betruger!!!!!!

As Above // So Below

now it's time.. Ov The B-E-A-S-T !!!!!!!!

[little raven]

What

Are you ok

[scenic stratus]

I just mix Black Metal with DooM 3 gameplay

[scenic stratus]

lol, funny indeed

[shadow solar]

The vr version is so scary

I pissed my pants

[little raven]

I wish I could have that experience but I’m too poor

I cant afford pants

[frosty holly]

lmao

[frosty holly]

No one can after buying the Valve Index

[neon owl]

the valve index is expensive but from what i see you can move individual fingies

[scenic stratus]

oh yeah lmao

[slate gulch]

You should get excited around the civilians working down there

[half plank]

maybe even shoot any 👀

[neon owl]

it wasn't in the base game. it was added in the expansions

i'm not sure

probably to keep the horror atmosphere somewhat, the ssg was pretty powerful and kinda removed some of the tension

[little raven]

They probably tested it and found the ssg would break the main game

[slate gulch]

Similar to how they doubled the spread of the regular shotgun just before release. In multiplayer its spread is only half, and that's not the kind of changes they did to the other weapons

[scenic stratus]

geez you guys

[worthy parcel]

Me:Realizing I now have the chainsaw because I just killed the chainsaw zombieʰᵃʰᵃᴴᴬᴴᴬhahahHAHAHHAHAH

Mwahahahahaha

HAHAHAHAH

[little raven]

Its amazing against tentacle guys and archies and not much else

[worthy parcel]

IM GOING

ON A

RAMPAGE

When do I get super shotgun

Demons before I get chainsaw: easy prey
Demons after I get chainsaw:SHIT SHIT

[half plank]

in the expansion

[worthy parcel]

Well the ps4 version give all dlcs

[half plank]

[worthy parcel]

And I'm playing os4

[little raven]

Oh boy the os4 my favorite

[half plank]

yeah, it appears in Resurrection of Evil and Lost Mission

[worthy parcel]

I like ps4 the most but I have all consoles

And I like all consoles

Is there an extras menu after beating the main story?

[honest lynx]

Just nightmare mode

[worthy parcel]

So I have to play nightmare

[honest lynx]

Id recommend it

[worthy parcel]

I'd fucking blow up in the first 2 seconds

[worthy parcel]

Transmit or cancel?

I need to know what to do

Help I don't know what do do

[little raven]

Oh boy this decision will heavily impact the game

[worthy parcel]

IT WILL?!?

AWW SHIT

[little raven]

It might

[worthy parcel]

I don't know what to pick 😟

all mighty doom fan base, guide me. Use you knowledge and please guide me

[little raven]

If you call the fleet the demons might get aboard the ships and destroy earth
But if you cancel youll be stranded all alone with no help

[worthy parcel]

So what do I pick

[little raven]

Depends on who you want to piss off
Swan or sarge

[worthy parcel]

I want to kill demons and have fun not have to make big choses

[little raven]

I usually send it because I dont like swan’s glasses

[worthy parcel]

Ok

[little raven]

Also dont forget to open the martian buddy lockers one of them has a bfg

[worthy parcel]

Did I pass it

[honest lynx]

Yeah make sure you open the locker numbered 666. It has a bfg upgrade in it

[worthy parcel]

WHER

IS IT

Are you going to tell me or are you going to let me miss it

Nevermind I have to wait to B2

*level b2

WHAT ARE these baby fly things?!?!?

[little raven]

Theyre like trites but worse in every single way

[worthy parcel]

I will yeet the children

YEET THEM

[honest lynx]

analysis control. Where the soul cube was held

[worthy parcel]

Im at boarding platform

Is that close

[honest lynx]

Not really. Don't worry. You won't miss it

[worthy parcel]

Ok whew

[worthy parcel]

Im at delta labs 2 now

[worthy parcel]

I got the BFG from Chief M. Abrams Office

Haven't used it yet

[worthy parcel]

I spawn killed the archvile with the BFG because I didn't want to deal with it's shit today

Welp good night Friends

[scenic stratus]

lmao

[scenic stratus]

@crystal pawn

[honest lynx]

[scenic stratus]

such a chad

[crystal pawn]

sl;dma;kmjwa;kdawksd

@scenic stratus 🙂

[scenic stratus]

grzegorz brzęczyszczykiewicz

[crystal pawn]

my point exactly

finally someone who gets it

[worthy parcel]

What do I do at control station 3

[little raven]

Is that the moving platform maze?

[worthy parcel]

No teleporter control station 3

[little raven]

Teleport somewhere
I dont exactly remember where that is

[worthy parcel]

Well I know that

[worthy parcel]

But where

[worthy parcel]

How do I the hell boss that spawns flying drones

And where is the BFG in hell

[little raven]

I dont think there is one

[worthy parcel]

than why does it give me a BFG cell

[little raven]

I have no idea

[worthy parcel]

How do I beat the boss

[little raven]

Shoot the big blue ball

On his back

[worthy parcel]

OOHHHH

[little raven]

Rockets work best

[worthy parcel]

Gotcha

How many times with the rocket till he dies

Never mind he dead

Fuck that boss

Do I get all my wepons back now

NO it's the exact opposite!!!

[little raven]

Lol

The next bfg should be after the next boss fight

[worthy parcel]

WTF and it puts me against a chainguner when I'm stuck in a vent

[little raven]

Grenade em

[worthy parcel]

But do I get things back after

[little raven]

You do get weapons again
They dont take away anything from now on

[worthy parcel]

Thank god

I'd be pissed

[versed estuary]

Yeah you get your guns back pretty quick

[slate gulch]

The BFG in hell is barely hidden behind the pentagram that had ammo on it

[little raven]

Theres a bfg in hell

[worthy parcel]

Welp Im out of hell now

[little raven]

What?

[slate gulch]

Yes. The part where you go out of a cave and two hell Knights spawn. A pentagram is there. Walk past it and its behind the big rock.

[little raven]

Is that only on bfg cause I have never seen that before
Or am I just unobservant as hell

[slate gulch]

No, it's in the original

[little raven]

Wow

Thats embarrassing

[worthy parcel]

I miss infinite stamina from hell

What's the next boss

[worthy parcel]

Petition to remove demon fly baby from doom 3

[worthy parcel]

Is that the doom hunter?!

Well he die quickly with rockets and cube

[obtuse wedge]

Man the friggin section with the lifts and stuff like that is really frustrating me, I can’t find the exit

[worthy parcel]

How many levels after caverns area 1

[worthy parcel]

How do I kill the big titan at the excavation site

Please help

I don't know how to kill him and nothing stands out as how to kill him

[versed estuary]

Final level?

@worthy parcel

[worthy parcel]

Hold up

Never mind I can't attach pictures

[versed estuary]

Is it standing on 2 legs

[worthy parcel]

The one in the excavation site

Yes

[versed estuary]

So what you wanna do is kill the imps and maggots

Then throw your cube

Then you wanna kill more little guys followed by the cube

Then you wanna kill more little guys followed by another expertly thrown cube

Then you wanna....

Yeah the fight sucks to say the least

[worthy parcel]

HUH?!?

So throw cube then run around like a dumbass?

[versed estuary]

Yep

Welcome to the worst boss fight in doom

[worthy parcel]

It always comes right back after throwing even if I run

I DID IT!!!

Im so happy

[versed estuary]

How was doom 3?

[worthy parcel]

Good

Wait that was the end

[versed estuary]

Yep

[worthy parcel]

Still got dlc to do

[versed estuary]

Resurrection of evil expansion is much much better

It’s shorter but more compact, better feel

And ssg 👀

[worthy parcel]

What about the 3rd one

[versed estuary]

Lost mission is even shorter
But much much much more action oriented

If you wanted doom 3 to be basically nonstop shooting/

That’s lost mission

Lost mission also has the best looking hell out of any doom ever

[worthy parcel]

So lost mission is doom 2016 and eternal style

[versed estuary]

It’s hell is unrivaled by any game

[worthy parcel]

So what are the 2 new wepons that are in the dlcs

[versed estuary]

One is a grabber gun

[worthy parcel]

Grabber gun?

[versed estuary]

It’s insanely good vs lost souls and the cherubs

[worthy parcel]

Like a grappiling hook?!??!!!

[versed estuary]

Err more like a gravity gun

[worthy parcel]

Aww I love grappiling hooks

[versed estuary]

The other Gun is the ssg

Which is fooking beautiful and powerful

[worthy parcel]

Super shotgun I know and can't wait for

[versed estuary]

Arguably

It’s my favorite doom ssg

[worthy parcel]

Ssg is always badass

Wow three new barons

W-why do I have a heart

These lost souls look better than the campaign ones

Wow the grabber looks cool

Thing 1. Cool new demon
Thing 2. So I have to play nightmare mode to get a extras menu?

Dumbass floating baron teleported directly into the BFG sentry bullet I was holding killing himself

I managed to use the grabber and make a jackhammer stand upright

[honest lynx]

The ssg is less like a shotgun and more like a elephant gun

[worthy parcel]

Speaking of which when do I get it

Also do you get the same email when playing super turbo turkey puncher 3 in the dlc

I GOT IT

I have the SSG

Pog

[heady mesa]

pog

[sonic zinc]

[little raven]

Playing through lm right now

And got the ssg

Its so fucking good

My nm no soul cube run is working as planned

Lost mission is 100% my best doom 3 experience

[scenic stratus]

Ikr

[little raven]

Even though the no soul cube run started as a glitch
Its way more fun then I thought it would be

[scenic stratus]

Also, is dhewm 3 the only sourceport for doom 3?

[little raven]

I think

[scenic stratus]

Aw man

I wanted to play lost missions with dhewm 3

But it doesnt work

[little raven]

If you have the og version on steam theres a mod for that

Thats what I’m using

[scenic stratus]

Ill check it out later

[little raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsN9bWdyqw8

this ssg is insane

[honest lynx]

Kills demons and large dinosaurs

[scenic stratus]

👀

[sonic zinc]

My fav SSG is the Doom 64 one but I haven't played through Doom 3 yet

[scenic stratus]

lmao

[little raven]

Ok vega

Doom eternal
3
64
2

2016

That better?

[scenic stratus]

i heard that 2016's ssg was op

[little raven]

Its the dumbest thing ever

[honest lynx]

It will demolish all things when fully upgraded

[little raven]

Its super shitty when you get it
But when it becomes good its not an ssg anymore

[scenic stratus]

should i play DOOM 3 as DOOM or a survival horror game

[little raven]

What do thou mean

[scenic stratus]

i mean should i consider Doom 3 as DOOM we all know that has action and thrill and fast paced mass shooting demons or consider it a horror game like resident evil classic but in first person?

[sonic zinc]

Fast and shooty or wait and scavengy

[scenic stratus]

scavengy LOL

[sonic zinc]

Play it like you would Half Life

[little raven]

Playing aggro is the best

Half life is boring

[scenic stratus]

i literally scavenged all discs and ammo in this game

[sonic zinc]

wrong

[scenic stratus]

half life 2?

[little raven]

I dont see anything fun about nothing but door fighting

[scenic stratus]

door fight?

nah bro

[sonic zinc]

You wouldn't have to door fight if you learn the guns better

[scenic stratus]

Half life 2 is really boring on hard difficulty tho

[sonic zinc]

Also don't play on hard it's bullshit

[scenic stratus]

yeah

hard is really boring in the sequel but in half life 1 the difficulties are alright

Half life 1 multiplayer is shit

unlike Doom 3 multiplayer

but sometimes i get creeps from doom 3 multiplayer

[sonic zinc]

If you're playing HL1 multiplayer just play Counterstrike

[scenic stratus]

players sneak and camp in shadows

i play counter strike yes, but uhhh it is ehm ehm cough* dead

game is dead

D E A D

just like my Grumpy

CoD 1 is still alive

the only Doom that can be compared to CoD it is Doom 2

[sonic zinc]

that makes no sense

[scenic stratus]

i know it is about demons

[sonic zinc]

Doom deathmatch is nothing like CoD multiplayer

[scenic stratus]

but i do get CoD vibes in Doom

oh no i am talking about the campaign

[scenic stratus]

idk man half life is way faster

which?

[little raven]

If thats true to you your playing doom 3 wrong

[scenic stratus]

lol

Doom 3 does look like half life

you go through vents and peep pap

half life 2 yes

all of them

1 and 2

half life 1's music tho

but that gravity gun is really reminding me of doom 3 destroyer gun

they reused it in half life 2 like suspense.ogg

half life 1 music is mist

[slate gulch]

Play half life on Hard

[scenic stratus]

ewwwwwwww

half life on hard is fucking hard

hard is gae

[little raven]

Hard mode is even more boring

[scenic stratus]

ReeeeeeeTard

[slate gulch]

It does more than change numbers

[sonic zinc]

Hard just makes the enemies spongy

[scenic stratus]

and hit harder

[sonic zinc]

No fun

[honest lynx]

Someone get my chainsaw

[slate gulch]

It makes vortigaunts attack faster and lets ninjas turn invisible

[sonic zinc]

rude

[scenic stratus]

Here king

normal is reccomended

its challenging enough

[scenic stratus]

The game is actually Reeeeeetard yes

[slate gulch]

No it isnt

[scenic stratus]

what

[scenic stratus]

play it on hard and enemies shoot as soon as you hit the corner

[honest lynx]

Yes

[scenic stratus]

they are just annoying more than being aware

[honest lynx]

On hard

[scenic stratus]

on hard yes

[honest lynx]

Hard mode

[slate gulch]

Which is what you should be playing

[scenic stratus]

doesnt like every game do that

[sonic zinc]

Doom doesn't

[scenic stratus]

with the ai that has unreal reaction time

[scenic stratus]

yeah they actually wake up

in the level before Breen's death, you know that wide place that looks like Berlin? Combine shoots me with shotgun and that plasma rifle from wayyyy too far away

[honest lynx]

This kid needs to get gud. Imagining being proud that you sucked. This game bad because I'm bad at it

[scenic stratus]

what half life 2 is ez on hard

[scenic stratus]

to be frank with you, Hard in Half life 1 is perfect and makes sense

[slate gulch]

I did the whole series on Hard as a marathon

[scenic stratus]

epic

[scenic stratus]

game is overall easy

i had more trouble with half life 1 on hard

[sonic zinc]

If Combine are hitscanning you just use rockets

[honest lynx]

Doom 3 is the easiest doom game other than nightmare mode

No idea what you're talking about

[scenic stratus]

nightmare mode can makes the game way more intense

Half life 2 is easy as Piecake your mom made with some cherry on top and cream

[slate gulch]

Half Life 2 on hard doesn't seem to have actual changes to enemies

[scenic stratus]

yes

[honest lynx]

Makes it better in my opinion

[scenic stratus]

half life tastes like ummmm

[little raven]

Nightmare mode is the best way to play 3

[scenic stratus]

half life 2 is fun even with the difficulty

[honest lynx]

Anything other than nightmare is laughable

[scenic stratus]

like um muffin cake from Mcdonald's

[slate gulch]

And the Episodes actually shift the scaling to be even harder

[scenic stratus]

yes it does make it better

D O O M on nightmare