doom-3

[little raven]

Story doesnt make any sense
Have you played eternal

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3's menu theme kicks ass and chews gum

[little raven]

Your complaints are vague
He definitely never played it

[scenic stratus]

Agree

The story is actually really good like the origin of the soul cube

[little raven]

This is one of the sorriest attempts Ive seen of trashing doom 3
“It doesnt have cool features”
Like what
“I dunno cool features”

[prisma snow]

havent you learned by now that this is what the channel does

new people see "doom 3 horror and bad"

then immediately say it

i am keeping an open mind until i play it

[scenic stratus]

I use to say that but after playing it.
I felt really dumb

[prisma snow]

its fine to say it AFTER

cause you actually played it

[scenic stratus]

Nah i said it wrong
I used to say it befire playing the game

[prisma snow]

ohhh

[scenic stratus]

But after playing it man it was fun

[prisma snow]

but you actually played the game, when most wont

[scenic stratus]

Yeah was getting kinda bored of doom 2 after my 494949th playthrough

[little raven]

If you have a good reason for not liking it sure
But 90% of people who come here never played

[prisma snow]

^^^

[scenic stratus]

That pinky scene

I played doom 3

Yeah but the main theme is the only good part

Mick Gordon makes good music

[scenic stratus]

Wha-

Ok fine i guess

For some reason it started me at the top were I last texted

[scenic stratus]

Happens a lot to me

But Mick Gordon is a good musician

Imagine doom without heavy metal

[scenic stratus]

One of the best i would say

Yes

Best musician ever

[scenic stratus]

Doom 64 didnt have that but it was still awesone

Yeah doom 64 was good

The unmakry was op

And then there's the first wuake that i cant play because it creeps the crap out of me with the music trent reznor why

Some people think a rapper is the best at music or pop singers but the best musician for heavy metal is Mick gordon

Mick Gordon the king of heavy metal

Listen to mick gordon's inferno from killer instinct

Its his best work for me

I love the only thing they fear is you

[scenic stratus]

Inferno is better imo

The main theme is amazing

But yeah one of my favorites

[scenic stratus]

I havent even played the modern doom games lmao

Oh

I probably never will

That id software PDA in doom 3 was wholesome asf

[honest lynx]

Mick Gordon didnt make the doom 3 theme. It is the inspiration for harbinger though.

[stable lake]

and it is glorious

prolly my fav 2016 theme

[versed estuary]

You mean doom 1-2-3-64-final?

Rpg1-2

Resurrection

[half plank]

midis can go hard

[versed estuary]

If you need locker codes I pinned a wiki with every code from all 3
The game and dlcs

[thorn verge]

Word
That’s the one I found on Google actually lol
Suuuuuper helpful

[honest lynx]

The one before the cyber fight? Yeah it's pretty awesome. And the room it's in

[scenic stratus]

Nobody
Literally Nobody

Someone saying IDGAF to me

Me:- What doom code is that?

[scenic stratus]

lol

[scenic stratus]

What is going on in voice 4

What is going on

[dire minnow]

Pain

[scenic stratus]

Wow

Wow what is going on

What are you guys talking about in voice 4 I am very confused

[dire minnow]

Just DOOM 3 stuff wdym

[scenic stratus]

No in the call called voice 4

[dire minnow]

That's what I'm talking about

[scenic stratus]

Oh

[scenic stratus]

Its a code for the classic doom

[teal apex]

Theyve posted it in every channel

[scenic stratus]

Yeah i just found out

[paper anvil]

So I’ve heard doom 3 is drastically different from the first 2. Is that a bad thing?

[honest lynx]

No. It's a horror shooter. A really good game. You're not the slayer. Just a dude trying to survive a demon invasion

Look at it that way.

[scenic stratus]

Its still good, its more challenging than the classics imo

[charred fox]

The tone is different but you’re still shooting demons with lots of weapons

You eventually get a weapon that gives health for kills emphasizing aggressive run n gun

[scenic stratus]

yeah that was kinda op but then the game starts throwing bigger and stronger enemies

[charred fox]

Yeep pretty much

[thorn verge]

If you like dead space you’ll like doom 3

Fighting style/amount I mean

And darkness. Lol

And exploration - find the keys/turn on the power sort of thing

Hands down though I can say it’s worth a playthrough - don’t be discouraged by others - I’m glad I tried it/am trying it (haven’t beaten yet)

[scenic stratus]

the last boss is different from the others 😩

[thorn verge]

I'm on easy mode for my first run so i'll be ok

HEH
If I have the motivation I'll try nightmare after I do the DLCs, we'll see.
Limited time as it is

[little raven]

Anything other then nm is easy mode
Youll be fine if you have at least one hand

[thorn verge]

lol

[scenic stratus]

I play this game a whole bunch of times I got scared the living shit out of

[scenic stratus]

what was the scariest demon for you guys 🥳

[half plank]

probably the hell knight

[scenic stratus]

hell knights look badass and intimidating

[little raven]

You got the bfg before you fought any of them

Yeah you do

Theres bfg cubes in lockers I’m pretty sure and it already comes with ammo when you pick it up

Every single time Ive played Doom 3 I bfg the hell knights when you first meet them
You have ammo

[honest lynx]

You really should especially locker 666

[scenic stratus]

Gonna go back to doom 3

Gonna get all PDAs on veteran
Again

Playing turkey puncher

[honest lynx]

I honestly love reading the pdas and all the dumb stories. Some of them are creepy. It's awesome

[little raven]

Quake 45

[scenic stratus]

Love a lot of these voice actors

[little raven]

I swear thats in one of them

[scenic stratus]

Honestly Doom 3 has my favorite BFG of all games

The fact you can hold the fire button for a stronger ball

NPC: civilians are working there, dont get excited and shoot anyone
Me: punches all the NPCs

[honest lynx]

It's a mercy

[scenic stratus]

Kinda like killing imps with the shotgun as they spawn

Civvie described as like
"Its like whack a mole except sometimes your mallet is a rubber chicken"

[little raven]

Civvie also sucks at this game

[scenic stratus]

you know I like Doom 3 but I think we can all agree that Doom 3's combat shotgun is a travesty

[half plank]

Doom 3's shotgun is a melee weapon

[scenic stratus]

that's why I think the best way to play Doom 3 is with a mod that makes all weapons do more damage

[honest lynx]

Perfect doom 3 weapons look way to op

[scenic stratus]

and honestly the best Doom 3 mod that I've played is probably Doom 3 Phobos episode 1 and episode 2

[half plank]

I gotta try phobos, but doom 3 has weird shadow bugs I can't seem to fix.

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 Phobos is really fun and the weapons are more powerful than the stock weapons but they're not Op

although if you have a really fast clicking finger you can rapid fire the pistol

[honest lynx]

Machine gun fires faster ? What's improved ?

[scenic stratus]

no not machine gun fast like if you rapid fired a Glock

[honest lynx]

I mean did they increase the fire rate of the mg 88 enforcer

It's my favorite weapon

[scenic stratus]

Is perfected doom 3 a good mod?

[scenic stratus]

Theres a youtube video that showcases it and talks about it. It looks like a love / hate kind of mod

[scenic stratus]

The doom 3 melee weapons
Fist, flashlight, chainsaw, shotgun

What do you guys think of the Super shotgun in Resurrection of Evil

[versed estuary]

Arguably one of the best doom ssg

It can instakill almost every demon
And 2-3 shot kill the big ones

[scenic stratus]

I think i read it had a better spread than the regular shotgun

[half plank]

it does

[thorn verge]

How much more of the game do I have left if I’m at sector 3 delta labs

Also side question, how do I play doom 1/2 on BFG ed
I ask cus I read doom 2 has an additional level/section?

[teal apex]

its no rest for the living, think its called nerve.wad in the files, but its free to download as and add on in the new ports and bfg edition is poopy

[scenic stratus]

One of the very few good weapons in DooM 3. Along with rocket launcher. BFG is pretty useless, unless you charge 3+ units and hit a demon directly in face.

[scenic stratus]

To be fair to the shotgun, theres some good
90% of the time a weak enemy dies super close
Even when I once WENT STRAIGHT TO AN IMP WITH THE SHOTGUN AND IT DIDN'T DIE ACTUALLY HOW

And when reloading you can fire or change weapon not just after

[little raven]

Shotgun can one shot anything weaker then revenants

I once took out 3 cacodemons in one clip
That was cool

[scenic stratus]

90% of the time a weak enemy dies super close
but 50% of the time you manage to get hit by enemies' bullets

[little raven]

Id go with plasma for best weapon in 3

[scenic stratus]

Plasma gun is probably the best weapon in 3

My personal favorite Plasma Gun is Eternal but I love 3's too

it's in my top 3 (with double barrel and rocket launcher)

[little raven]

My ranking is
Ssg
Plasma
Machine gun
Shotgun
Bfg
Rocket
Chaingun
Pistol

[scenic stratus]

i wouldn't be willing to chat about doom eternal in this awesome chatroom

Damn what's wrong with Chaingun

[little raven]

It fires way to slowly

Machine is better in every way

[scenic stratus]

Welp got to the first maggot fight now

has any of you played OpenCoop?

What's yalls favorite enemy in Doom e

Doom 3

arch-vile

I actually love the Maggot

Oh boy I'm in the last room of Alpha Labs 1

I've heard someone said this is one of the hardest fights in the game

Just a bunch of maggots in a small room

[little raven]

Hell knights are my favorite

[scenic stratus]

I even played this game on recruit difficulty and ended up with half health after this fight

[little raven]

Are those the teleporting guys

[scenic stratus]

What's with the armor barely taking damage

No the maggots are the ones that just crawl

2 heads

[little raven]

Funny story

Armor protects you from getting hit in the chest area
But all enemies go for the head

[scenic stratus]

Ah

[little raven]

Thats why armor absorbs only one point of damage per hit

[scenic stratus]

Cuz you can basically have no health and have like 90 armor

[little raven]

There might be a way to jump right as a hitscanner shoots you to make the bullets hit your amor but I havent tried it

[scenic stratus]

So what do you guys think if Doom 3 grenades

powerful, if you can predict spawn locations of demons

speedrunners use grenades quite a lot

Oh god I'm going to the first room with trites

I actually read what the word trite means
2 definitions

1. a type of jumping spider
2. A synonym for "overused"

Trites are probably the most annoying enemies

[little raven]

Id say cherubs are worse

[honest lynx]

[scenic stratus]

Kill it

[brazen coyote]

i want to play doom 3

[scenic stratus]

if you play it, you'll die as a doom slayer and will be reborn as a doom marine.

and you'll be looking around you...

everyone is dead

and soon you'll join them

and your soul will burn in hell forever

@brazen coyote and you'll never find the thing you're looking for. it's trapped in hell forever.

@brazen coyote but if you find it — you'll have something that belongs to Maledict. RETURN IT TO HIM!

[honest lynx]

Jesus betruger is here

[scenic stratus]

DESTROY HIM ! (concerns Gougaru)

[honest lynx]

Nightmare reflexes https://imgur.com/a/GopxIRY

[half plank]

commando go

[little raven]

I remember that part on nm
I think the exact thing opposite thing happened to me

[honest lynx]

Bro I was just checking out the room and forgot that turd was behind the door. Literally gave me a heart pain

[scenic stratus]

Which commandos are worse
Tentacle or chaingun

[versed estuary]

Chaingun

As you see you can just dodge tentacles

[slate gulch]

On Nightmare I liked to duck them and chainsaw. Can't do that with chaingunners.

[charred fox]

I’ll have to try that chainsaw trick

[slate gulch]

I've done Nightmare more than once. Because I'm actually not sure how many times in general I've done this game

[honest lynx]

It's the best way to experience 3

[slate gulch]

and the original is the best way because of what BFG Edition took out

[scenic stratus]

Is doom3's nightmare taking away your health?

[slate gulch]

You lose 5 HP every 5 seconds with this odd sound effect, you start with the Soul Cube, you take 350% damage, and the extra monsters from Veteran are present

until it reaches 25, it won't stop going down

oh and every health item not on the wall is GONE

[scenic stratus]

Lmao i started playing the game on veteran so idont know the extra monsters

[slate gulch]

in BFG edition they don't do that anymore

[honest lynx]

I believe bfg nightmare is superior honestly

More ammo. More light allows you to move faster. Dont need to switch to the flashlight. Just more ability to be aggressive

[scenic stratus]

Whats different in bfg edition's nightnare?

[scenic stratus]

Ah

[slate gulch]

no extra monsters, for one thing.

you don't really ever need extra ammo. You have plenty in the original.

[honest lynx]

Lost missions as well

Which is an amazing experience

More demons and action

[scenic stratus]

What are the extra monsters ?

[honest lynx]

Lost missions is fantastic on nightmare

[slate gulch]

and in Resurrection of Evil the Delta Labs lost its effect and an arena was taken out of the last level

[scenic stratus]

Pm_walkspeed

[honest lynx]

Well lost missions is short but has more monsters per fight than roe and base game

[scenic stratus]

And then i just bind it to akey because it restarts during load time

[slate gulch]

You remember how the classic games did more monsters? So in fights sprinkled around there are enemies that will only show up on Veteran and Nightmare

[scenic stratus]

Oh thats what you meant

[slate gulch]

also I heard about it and looked around in the files and found out the Hell Knights in Delta 4 really do have 1400 HP instead of 900

[honest lynx]

You also get the soul cube and in roe you get the artifact right away in nightmare

Having a full heart in roe right away is a blast

[slate gulch]

I actually don't remember if I did RoE on Nightmare. I'm pretty sure I don't have the BFG achievement

[honest lynx]

After the first boss of course

[scenic stratus]

Everytime my health is at 25 i use the souclube right away on nightmare

[slate gulch]

finding dhewm3 was real good for me

[scenic stratus]

Cant take my chances ahainst the soldiers

[scenic stratus]

Same here

[honest lynx]

Give it a go. The maledict fight is actually a challenge on nightmare. Well more than veteran

[slate gulch]

you wanna know the funny thing about the gun enemies

they aren't hitscan. They're shooting invisible projectiles at the speed of actual bullets, just like you. Try to dodge that.

[honest lynx]

Headshots work best / machine gun

[slate gulch]

If you ever see a tracer effect go off that's actually real time travel

[scenic stratus]

Like quake 2 then

[scenic stratus]

Yeah if you sprint you can dodge the chaingunners

[honest lynx]

If you see bullets coming at you in nightmare you're usually going to be dead. Cant really dodge them. Cover works best

[slate gulch]

and the chaingun's bullets are slower than the rest. It says right in the code they tried to time it to the speed of a .38 Special from a magazine, because it's copy pasted into almost every Velocity

er, well, the bullets that AREN'T the chainguns.

[scenic stratus]

Im used to postal combat so i forgot about taking cover

[slate gulch]

you actually just need to get good at bouncing grenades just right

[honest lynx]

Wont work well on nightmare against zsecs

[scenic stratus]

Yea

[slate gulch]

almost every time you encounter Zsec there were grenades at some point

and they're actually a bit more powerful than rockets

[honest lynx]

Especially areas you know they'll be behind a door. Grenades work wonders if you know what you're doing

[scenic stratus]

Sometimes my nightmare run ends because on 75 health i get obe shotted by a shotgunner

[scenic stratus]

Their radios

[slate gulch]

their shotguns work more like the original, 7 pellets and everything. It just does less damage.

In multiplayer your shotgun actually has half the spread and I think they meant it to be like that, but thought it was OP and decided doubling the spread to 22 was a good fix

that's why in RoE the Super Shotgun is somehow more accurate while having more pellets that do more damage

[scenic stratus]

I really liked that bfg boss fight

It reminds me of quake

[slate gulch]

Sabaoth? My Doom 3 run I decided to actually let him run around and it was alright. I think he needed way more than 1750 HP though

[scenic stratus]

What happened to sgt.kelly btw

He died right?

[slate gulch]

No one knows. Hell if you think about it there is no way he was on that machine when he attacked Swan and Campbell

[scenic stratus]

Maybe but you know
Plot convenience

Man i love sgt. Kelly

[honest lynx]

Tiny hallway yeah

Good point

[slate gulch]

I actually just did RoE a couple months ago on Veteran and tried really hard to never use the artifact. Not worth it.

[honest lynx]

More fun on nightmare. Sounds to me you'll really like it

Veterans a little easy

[slate gulch]

at Maledict, I mean. He was designed around you using it, and when you refuse you get hurt

[scenic stratus]

So sgt.kelly really is the guy on that machine?
I thoght it was the other one

[honest lynx]

Nope

That's why you hear sarge is coming for you

Before the fight

[slate gulch]

Sgt. Kelly acts weird when you get to Delta and tells you to meet him in some tunnels that are empty and spawn demons when you actually go there

[scenic stratus]

Yeah that gave me creeps

[honest lynx]

Theres a theory he was working for betruger the whole time

[slate gulch]

remember how Doom 3 tells you what every room is? You go to the exact place he says to meet him and he's not there

then demons spawn in

[scenic stratus]

Man

[slate gulch]

he's also somehow shocked you're still alive. 'I guess things aren't always what they seem'

[scenic stratus]

Im kinda convinced now

[slate gulch]

The theory is that he was possessed after the radio beacon scene because his radio cuts out

[honest lynx]

He sounds like it honestly

[slate gulch]

It's uncertain he was working for Betruger all along

[scenic stratus]

Yeah maybe
Thats actually cool

[honest lynx]

Like it isnt him

[slate gulch]

you wanna know what's really weird? You have so many marines on Mars but somehow the commander is only a Master Sergeant. Must be corporate.

[scenic stratus]

[slate gulch]

if you think about it the marines are probably no REAL space marines, but the UAC's goons

so when something actually happens these are the guys that didn't cut it in the actual marines

[scenic stratus]

But there was one pda saying that they were better than the other ones

[scenic stratus]

Oh ok

[slate gulch]

I wouldn't be surprised if the UAC could also get former or even current serving members in this continuity

[honest lynx]

UAC controls the military industrial complex. It makes sense that they would have heavy control by the UAC

[slate gulch]

imagine back on Earth what people say about them sending what are supposed to be troops off to guard their secret projects, or what their hiring practices are

Hell I've figured if there was a Doom3Guy's mind it'd start with him being disappointed with failing to get into the actual Marines, but the UAC happened to be there to whisper 'hey man, we could use you'

[honest lynx]

Pretty sure he was given UAC detail for refusing a direct order and hitting a commanding officer

[slate gulch]

that's the classic dooms

in Doom 3 he's just replacing someone

[scenic stratus]

Isnt that doomguy

[honest lynx]

Yeah

Doomguy isnt in 3

You said doomguy

[slate gulch]

one of the marines that died, since you'll notice no one is actually transferred out when Dark Star leaves

[scenic stratus]

Oh sorry

[honest lynx]

Doom marine is the name of doom 3 character

[slate gulch]

I said Doom3Guy, I think his name is supposed to be John Kane in the novels

[scenic stratus]

Badass name

[slate gulch]

though everyone does call you Marine

[honest lynx]

Hes known as the doom marine

Just an average marine

No one special

[slate gulch]

well in 2016 the UAC also called him the Doom Marine

it was the demons who named him the Slayer

[honest lynx]

That's the doom guy

They arent connected

[slate gulch]

until Eternal said 'no actually Argent named him Great Slayer'

[honest lynx]

Doom 3 isnt canon unfortunately

[slate gulch]

I am aware of Doom 3 not being connected to any of the rest

however, keep in mind the tomb at the end of the game thats right by the Hell Hole where Mars' greatest champion is laying

is it possible... that he was sleeping in there

[scenic stratus]

Yeah

[slate gulch]

besides, just as little nods, in 2016 Olivia has the soul cube, and in Eternal the Slayer has it

[honest lynx]

There is potential to connect them if doom 3 wasnt taking place in 2147 and 2016 being in 2149

[scenic stratus]

Also i know this is random
But the guy holding the soul cube in the cutting looks like doomguy

[honest lynx]

Yeah thats a cool Easter egg

[scenic stratus]

Hell, it even looks like doom1's cover

[slate gulch]

well if it looked like Doom 2's cover they'd be censoring that haircut

[honest lynx]

Olivia also has the soul cube. I like little Easter eggs like that

[scenic stratus]

He looked like the terminator in doom2

[scenic stratus]

Yeah in her office?

I havent played the modern games but i saw a video about it

[slate gulch]

they actually should have had at least one spot with Doom 2 to remind you of the Cyberdemon. Actually, remember the whole thing starts with Jonathon Ishi saying 'the devil is real. I know, I built his cage...'

[scenic stratus]

Yeah

[honest lynx]

Well I'm going to go play some wolfenstein. Nice talking some doom 3 with you guys. Cheers for now

[scenic stratus]

Yeah same here i gotta make a poem

[scenic stratus]

why DOOM 3 is very but VERY difficoult?

[half plank]

it isnt though

everyone all of a sudden has been saying Doom 3 is super hard, I don't get it

[versed estuary]

Ikr?

Arguably it’s the easiest doom

Aside from maybe doom 1 but even than

[half plank]

Like, I'm not trying to hate, I just want to know what's hard for people

[scenic stratus]

D A R K

maybe

[versed estuary]

Hmm maybe

[scenic stratus]

also the crazy screen shaking

[neon owl]

the screen shake is a little overkill on doom 3

[scenic stratus]

yeah even if its just the spider thingy

or a bullet

[slate gulch]

if you can jump on something the spiders get mad and explode

[scenic stratus]

cool

ngl that scene where you browse the camera and a spider comes out of it got me good

[slate gulch]

you can actually do some manuevers to jump over the first spider fight by hopping on the pipe and up over the medkit. Gotta know how the jump physics work first.

[honest lynx]

It's fine if you dont get hit

[slate gulch]

I'm just glad Doom 3's pain sounds are a little goofy and not like whatever the hell Dark Souls was doing

[scenic stratus]

or you get cornered

its almost impossible to recover

[slate gulch]

whip out the chainsaw

thing does 50 Damage a second

[scenic stratus]

its op af
its even stronger than the chainsaw from d64

[slate gulch]

you can kill an Archvile while its distracted summoning. They only have 425 HP for some reason

[scenic stratus]

i prefer the plasma on them because they usually are above you

like the one in caverns

[slate gulch]

also, they have separate attack patterns. The ones that spawn right next to you have the flame wave, but the ones that are above or below you actually do basically the original attack

[thorn verge]

So

[slate gulch]

they also have a list of what they can spawn, so the later ones will be dragging in Hell Knights

[thorn verge]

Haven’t been spooked in this game in a while
But I killed a bunch of dudes
Then this scientist was behind the door and I blasted him

LOL his human shape scared me more than a demon shape

[slate gulch]

speaking of this game being scary

using Dhewm3 and it finally letting me turn on EAX reverb made every single sound effect actually work

the original game is so old it doesn't recognize modern 7.1 headphones and such

[thorn verge]

An imp just killed himself w a barrel LUL

[slate gulch]

that's the fun part of every fireball having splash damage

[thorn verge]

This game has been really fun - idc what anyone says

I’m glad I tried it - can’t say that enough

[slate gulch]

oh it can get real fun once you learn it

running around just like the originals, bouncing grenades into things, ducking attacks and chainsawing things

[thorn verge]

Ducking a couple things I’ve gotten into - and chandsawing is good ye

Grenades I’ve determined I suck with

[slate gulch]

the most straightforward way is going bowling with them, but treating them like Mario's fireballs

if you can get that right, you learn how to angle them and where they're going to go. They're actually a bit stronger than rockets.

I can't recall in what way right now though, if I had the indulgence to go rifling through the code it's either more outright damage or oddly a bigger splash radius

I go looking into the def files for fun now and then

oh no, they're actually the same, but rockets also have direct damage

must have confused it for an edit I've done before

either way, once you hit higher skills you'll want to take out Zsecs instantly with grenades

on Nightmare you're taking 350% damage so you don't have time to waste

they become the deadliest enemies in the game because your health constantly rolls down until it reaches 25, and they shoot tracers at the speed of actual bullets (they aren't hitscan. Doom 3 doesn't use that.)

[little raven]

Hold up

Theyre not hitscan

Ive been lied to my whole life

[slate gulch]

no. In fact, in large rooms you can tell when using any weapon. Right in the variables for every bullet weapon they have a double slash note saying they tried to give it the speed of a .38 Special as given by a magazine in 1992

and the Chaingun's bullets are slow enough you'll definitely notice

if you ever see a tracer? that's real time travel

you're trying to dodge actual bullets

[little raven]

Thats really cool

[slate gulch]

and the tracer isn't there every time, so otherwise they're invisible

[thorn verge]

https://clips.twitch.tv/CulturedSavoryMochaHeyGuys I’m sorry what

I jump down 3 feet and I die. And then this

[slate gulch]

what difficulty

[thorn verge]

Recruit but there‘s no way I should’ve lived from that lol

[slate gulch]

oh no, in Recruit you only take 75% of damage

including falling

[thorn verge]

But that fall my guy

[slate gulch]

would kill you on Nightmare for sure

[thorn verge]

Should’ve killed me regardless. I’ve died from lower heights

[scenic stratus]

also that jump on mars underground takes away half of your health
but landing right should take about 25 hit points

[slate gulch]

I'm thinking based on how you moved that the physics wonked

abusing them is how you learn the fun jumps

oh actually whats your framerate

[remote kernel]

Anyone own hamsandwixh lately?

[thorn verge]

?

[slate gulch]

Doom 3 doesn't like going over 60, and abusing the 120 mode in BFG is how speedrunners make their goes. But just as often the physics hate you for it.

[thorn verge]

I play on 60. Because. I’m a console pleb.

[scenic stratus]

is that grenade boost to the pda possible in classic doom3?

i forgot which level it was

its the one where you get the pda and jump down to go back to an area that was inaccessible w/o the pda

[slate gulch]

The skip in Recycling 2 is definitely possible in classic, the one where you boost off a tiny slope to more than double your jump height and skip a chunk of level

because I did it

and unlike the medkit jump to skip the spiders I got it in a few tries

[scenic stratus]

i still dont know if im doing my strafe jump correctly

[slate gulch]

I'm wondering if crouching actually affects things but I'm unsure

[scenic stratus]

mid air?

[slate gulch]

it seems like it does affect what you can land on, but not every time

the game is trolling us

[scenic stratus]

yeah really inconsistent fall damage too

[slate gulch]

the best is that sometimes you can jump and get on crates, when I know they must have designed them to be slightly too tall

[scenic stratus]

im still bugged about that mars underground skip

[slate gulch]

I'm still bugged about walking on that damn tightrope

sometimes the landing flings you off

not that that storage room is particularly worth it. Early plasma ammo, so early it makes no difference for you

[scenic stratus]

i dont know the difference between chossing the efr thingy

also doom 3 might have the worst lost souls

[slate gulch]

oh no, Doom 64 does.

[honest lynx]

They re nothing just switch to the machine gun for those things

[slate gulch]

Doom 64's lost souls have less health but are hyper aggressive and basically -Fast, plus Pain Elementals spawning two every time and them exploding if you try to stop them. Also, you can turn on Fast and then they NEVER STOP.

[scenic stratus]

i think doom3's harder to deal with because they deal more damage than they're supposed to
and when you get hit the screenshaking is annoying and they attack super fast

[honest lynx]

They're usually pretty slow and once you get like the grabber in roe they're a joke

[scenic stratus]

[slate gulch]

oh I just remembered because of that

Maledict in BFG never spawns Forgotten Ones

[scenic stratus]

lmao there's an addon that puts RoE's ssg into doom3

[slate gulch]

its the superior shotgun

makes mincemeat out of those Vulgars

it's odd that enemy has green spawns and pentagrams

[scenic stratus]

i havent actually tried RoE yet

[slate gulch]

do it

[scenic stratus]

when i have the money 😌

[slate gulch]

imagine if Doom 3 had action and tough fights with new monsters

RoE is $5

[scenic stratus]

no seriously i have nothing on me rn

[slate gulch]

oh no wait, it's now $3

[scenic stratus]

I played the last arena in RoE yesterday (non-BFG) — he spawned skulls

[honest lynx]

Lost missions is short but a ton more action than roe

[slate gulch]

BFG doesn't even have that last arena

[honest lynx]

It has lost missions which is amazing

[slate gulch]

this is RoE compared to the main using dhewm3

speaking of BFG, doesn't it add a vent to the ambush room so you see where the Bravo Marine went?

[scenic stratus]

but wait... in RoE there's no fight with Maledict? Watch speedrun of BFG — it's there

[slate gulch]

No, it doesn't have the giant green room. Just like Delta doesn't shift to hell and back.

[honest lynx]

Yeah you get to see that area or out. It's a cool little thing

[scenic stratus]

those random delta scenes where the screen goes red for some reason really annoys me

[honest lynx]

Lost missions has the best hell as well

[scenic stratus]

It's BFG edition https://youtu.be/swi3tP4VFr8?t=1769

especially the one where you float

[honest lynx]

Yeah the river styx is fantastic

[scenic stratus]

time 29:30 — the last arena

[slate gulch]

thats the maledict fight

https://doomwiki.org/w/images/8/8a/RoE_Hell_05.png

[scenic stratus]

ah

but if you want to go to the green room — you need to turn right in original game

[slate gulch]

I... am aware.

[scenic stratus]

there's a beam teleporting you

that's a surprise to know bethesda omitted it in BFG

[honest lynx]

Still bfg has a far superior nightmare mode. In every way

[slate gulch]

in what regard

the flashlight is unecessary, the extra ammo also unnecessary

[honest lynx]

More ammo. Flashlight not required. More lighting. You move faster have more bullets faster nightmare gameplay it's that simple

[slate gulch]

you don't need the flashlight in the original either

[scenic stratus]

and yeah, in BFG I also can't see maledict spawning skulls. you're right

[scenic stratus]

it's dark as shit

[honest lynx]

Maybe for you but I'd say orginal 3 is designed to be slower paced

[scenic stratus]

of course

[honest lynx]

Thats just what it was made for

[slate gulch]

turn uppa the gamma. Also, most monsters have features like glowing eyes.

[honest lynx]

Bfg was made to be faster

[scenic stratus]

more speeeeed

[honest lynx]

That's it's only purpose of existing

[scenic stratus]

slow paced is AWESOME in a way. when you want exactly the slow paced game, right?

[slate gulch]

it's designed to be slower but you don't have to actually let it make you be slow

[honest lynx]

They were trying to backtrack the og formula

Then designed lost missions to do just that

[scenic stratus]

if you want classic doom3 to be fasterjust bind a key for pm_walkspeed

[slate gulch]

I wish Lost Missions had a new boss

it's nice to have Bruisers in though, those enemies really bring out the Doom

imagine if they got its original idea to work, you try to use a screen and that thing gets up

[honest lynx]

Yeah the boss was just the guardian lol. They could have done a wave type battle getting more and more intense without the boss and that would have been great

[slate gulch]

actually it hates you shooting that screen and will flinch

[scenic stratus]

remind me, bruisers are part of RoE?

[slate gulch]

they're the slim mancubi with monitor mouths

[scenic stratus]

they are weirdos

[slate gulch]

https://doomwiki.org/w/images/2/23/Bruiser.jpg

[honest lynx]

The teeth thing always was weird

[scenic stratus]

why do mancubi have an octopus in their mouth

[slate gulch]

https://doomwiki.org/w/images/f/f3/Bruiser-Eye.jpg

it has an eye when it spots you.

[scenic stratus]

jeez thats creepy

[slate gulch]

they were supposed to lie still and trick you into trying to use the monitor, but it didn't work out.

[scenic stratus]

and then you need BFG charge 2+

[scenic stratus]

that actually sounds nice

[honest lynx]

LOL

[slate gulch]

as in the designers could not get the game to do it right and gave up, so it just has a monitor mouth

[half plank]

that would have been creative as hell

[scenic stratus]

yeah i know 😔

[half plank]

especially in super dark rooms

[slate gulch]

also again, if you shoot that monitor it will flinch

[honest lynx]

More jump scares yippy

[scenic stratus]

https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Bruiser

[half plank]

instead theyre just big mancubi

[scenic stratus]

if they can only be damaged by using the monitors

[slate gulch]

everyone is always on about the jump scares. But the game doesn't take your agency away when they happen, so start blasting.

[scenic stratus]

yeah when i get jumpscared i just get angrier

[honest lynx]

Yeah but jump scares are cheap horror tricks not that it's scary just that it isnt original

I'm glad they didnt do that

[slate gulch]

when they jump at you blow them away. Imps like to do it in shotgun kiss range.

it's how you survive the horror. By not getting scared.

[half plank]

doom 3 isnt all too scary though

[scenic stratus]

the only time i got scared was during my second playthrough

[honest lynx]

Not sure why people think 3 is scary. Maybe if they're young

[slate gulch]

The sound library, Some of the things they put in it.

[scenic stratus]

when a zombie scared the shit out of me by hiding in a dark spot

[slate gulch]

Though again, using Dhewm3 to turn on the EAX reverb made the sounds work so much better.

[honest lynx]

The poop that whispers is hilarious not scary

[slate gulch]

It sounds like you're actually in the rooms, with bells and shit ringing.

[scenic stratus]

except if you are in the airlock thingy

the echo is painful

[slate gulch]

it would be worse in real life where using a gun would make you go deaf.

[honest lynx]

Also screaming ceiling guy. Was he having a bad day or what

[scenic stratus]

yeah what the hell was that

[thorn verge]

Is it reasonably possible to beat caverns 2 and the last level in 40 minutes

[slate gulch]

not as bad a day as Campbell if you can kill him in time for a free bfg

[scenic stratus]

yeah it took me a couple of tries

[slate gulch]

caverns has a skip if you leap down juuuuuust right

or you die isntantly

[scenic stratus]

its only on easier on bfg 😔

[honest lynx]

Hydrocon bfg. Going to use that to beat my next vagery kill time

[thorn verge]

Caverns 2? Or caverns

[scenic stratus]

caverns are one of my favorite levels

[slate gulch]

huh, now that you mention it, I think it's Caverns 1. Where you have to get to the bottom where that lava pit is.

[thorn verge]

Ah
Do you think it’s possible tho or no

Idk the length of the missions, so

[slate gulch]

I mean, I did that skip. Might have taken a few tries.

[scenic stratus]

https://youtu.be/q_Xq3J3_GoQ

[thorn verge]

I meant for the two levels in 40 min- sorry

[scenic stratus]

whats your favorite level?

[slate gulch]

I wish that the Cyberdemon fight had only the heaviest of monsters. Hell Knights, Mancubi- make you work for all those kills on the cube.

I mean imagine trying to kite those things while the Cyberdemon is constantly rocketing and threatening to just super smash boot you

plus Doom 3 has a demon ranking system- they wouldn't actually fight the cyberdemon if he outranks them.

[scenic stratus]

yeah that was boring as shit

[honest lynx]

@slate gulch you think the stealth mechanics they cut would have been enjoyable in the base game or do you believe it was a good thing it was cut. I feel like that was the right move

[scenic stratus]

you only had imps to kill

[slate gulch]

in Doom 3 if a Hell Knights hits an Imp it won't fight back, because the Hell Knight outranks it.

Imps and Maggots.

plus, you know, even if they could infight the Cyberdemon, its up to you to hurt it.

oh that reminds me the point I forgot

RoE's boss fights are so much better and a much better use of the gameplay

[scenic stratus]

cool

[thorn verge]

Rag doll in doom 3 is... hilarious

[honest lynx]

Definitely

[scenic stratus]

someimtes the imp does a backflip when dying

[honest lynx]

But I love it

[slate gulch]

they spaz out as they fade to ash

[thorn verge]

I rocketed an archville and he did a cartwheel into the heavens

[slate gulch]

or how your flashlight melts bodies when checking for zombies

[scenic stratus]

that happens to me all the time

[honest lynx]

Best rag doll https://imgur.com/a/CgUW50G

[slate gulch]

since your flashlight does double the damage of fists and is an actual weapon in the original you can ding things in the head with it

real good for when imps scream at you point blank. Doink.

[scenic stratus]

what the hell?

[honest lynx]

Imps need naps too

[scenic stratus]

one time an arch-vile literally kneeled

i dunno why but it made me feel like a huge dick

[slate gulch]

since one of the easiest ways to deal with chaingunners is rockets directly to the head you can see them and their weapon go flying

not so fun if you need ammo and it falls into death though

[scenic stratus]

i wanna see that 👀
will try it later

[slate gulch]

if you land a rocket directly to their face and the planets are aligned you might kill them in one hit.

[scenic stratus]

i usually save my rocket for archies and mancubi thats why i use the plasma on them

[slate gulch]

direct rockets still do double damage, not sure if explosions do

plasma is best for revenants. Completely blocks them.

and shoves them around

[scenic stratus]

yass i forgot about them

the revenants are really weak in this game

[thorn verge]

TIL you can kill yourselffffff with the BFG

Like, actually, by holding it too long

[scenic stratus]

yeah did that on the cyberdemon fight

[slate gulch]

not just with the overcharge either. It does actual splash damage in this game, in a huge range. If you see a demon it was beaming die instantly? It might have been in the radius. That big green lightshow is not for display.

[scenic stratus]

because i thought that it can damage him

[scenic stratus]

but the rockets they emit aren't

[thorn verge]

What’s the purpose in charging BFG

More damage? Or..

[scenic stratus]

but still weaker than the classics

[slate gulch]

it does do more damage, in fact there's coding specifically giving a modifier for it including max charge

[scenic stratus]

i think it throws a larger ball for more splash i think
or damage

i rarely use the bfg in doom3

i thought that im gonna need it for the final boss

soul cube 4 da win 😭 ✊

[slate gulch]

that is true for the maledict. The beams track him so you just spam shots

the bfg even has different sounds for all 4 charge levels

[scenic stratus]

also how did i get the soul cube again?

from hell right?

yeah has to be

[slate gulch]

hell or playing on nightmare you get it at the start

[half plank]

yeah, the guardian of hell boss

[thorn verge]

I want the wholesome ID pda - where is it

[scenic stratus]

its right before the big boss

[slate gulch]

it is to the left of the cyberdemon at the end

[half plank]

in the very last map

[thorn verge]

Thanks

[scenic stratus]

you will see a stone with ids logo on it

[slate gulch]

I like how you get to read those messages surrounded by screaming and moaning and that one haunt sound that you can find the spawn point of, knowing the Cyberdemon is 10 feet away

[scenic stratus]

yeah also reading about the "special facts" made me laugh

about the id employees

[slate gulch]

about how proud they are, and how hard they worked on the game you keep shitting on

that no one in 2004 actually thought was bad

[scenic stratus]

yes they sounded like they were having lots of fun making it too

[honest lynx]

Literally no one.

[slate gulch]

it had the misfortune of coming out the same year as Half-Life 2. I love that series to death, but that's bullshit

[scenic stratus]

half life 2 was amazing all right

[honest lynx]

And halo 2

[slate gulch]

if you want a challenge

[honest lynx]

Metal gear 3

And so on

[scenic stratus]

the stealth game?

[honest lynx]

2004 was a wild year for games

[slate gulch]

play Half Life 1 on Hard. Has hardcoded differences and every individual enemy has its own definitions for what numbers go up

[honest lynx]

Alot of heavy hitters

[slate gulch]

things like Vortigaunts attacking twice as fast, and Ninjas turning invisible when not moving

[scenic stratus]

half life 2 was on another level tho

[scenic stratus]

ninjas suck

[thorn verge]

MonkaS doom 3 was in development for 4 years?

[slate gulch]

They had to argue with the id heads they wanted to make it, too.

said do it or fire us.

[thorn verge]

“Let us deliver something different” eh

[scenic stratus]

tbh i never even knew doom 3 existed

[thorn verge]

I did - but I avoided it cus of the different feel it had and the words of others

[slate gulch]

they were after the Quake 2 and 3 thing afraid of being a one trick pony and that Doom 3 would be the same thing again

[thorn verge]

Then I scooped it up for $3

[scenic stratus]

was quake 2 loved?

[slate gulch]

Doom 3 was until apparently like now $10 on steam and is now $5 permanently, with RoE now being $3

[scenic stratus]

hi vega

[acoustic kayak]

Hi, @scenic stratus.

[scenic stratus]

i'd say Doom 3 isn't a doom game in any classic sence. it's an absolutely new type of horror games, back then

[slate gulch]

Quake 2 was loved, but it was the multiplayer that took off like in Quake, killing the series.

[scenic stratus]

and I like doom 3 better than any classic doom

[slate gulch]

of course, they only called it Quake 2 because the name they wanted was taking

[scenic stratus]

i don't like doom games tbh

[thorn verge]

sees cyber demon

[scenic stratus]

except for 3

[thorn verge]

Das a big boi

[honest lynx]

Doom 3 was basically built to showcase id tech 4. Built around showing it off. They did a great job

[scenic stratus]

quake 2 and sonic mayhems music is so good

[slate gulch]

I love all Doom. And all Devil May Cry. Except 2. Oh god I tried.

[scenic stratus]

jeez vega

[thorn verge]

Does mashing sprint make you go a little faster in hell or am I crazy

[scenic stratus]

i think the cyber demon was the only thing that actually scared doom marine

[slate gulch]

in Hell you never run out of stamina so never stop

[scenic stratus]

i think you have unli stamina?

[scenic stratus]

a b s o l u t e l y

[thorn verge]

I can’t sprint in hell

[scenic stratus]

wat?

[slate gulch]

Quake 4 now, that used the engine right

[thorn verge]

I can’t sprint. Lol

[scenic stratus]

why?

guys, google "Silent Descent PC" in google pictures

[slate gulch]

I've never done Quake IV on General. I can't imagine.

[thorn verge]

There’s no stamina bar and I can’t activate sprint idk

[scenic stratus]

that's the sickest horror game I've ever seen

[scenic stratus]

is it hard?

[thorn verge]

Is that not intentional?

[scenic stratus]

thats weird

[thorn verge]

Is it cus I’m on BFG

[scenic stratus]

any of you know Silent Descent (PC) ?

the stamina bar looks different on hell

[scenic stratus]

familiar

[slate gulch]

It's something like, you're playing a quake game but taking the insane extra damage.

[thorn verge]

I have no stamina bar at all. Just no sprint lol

[slate gulch]

it's supposed to be a burning infinite stamina bar

[scenic stratus]

worse than quake 2 on nightmare?

[scenic stratus]

it's just too hardcore, even without weapons.

[scenic stratus]

yeah

[thorn verge]

That’s no good :S

[scenic stratus]

that's a true hell of a horror game

[slate gulch]

I did Quake 2 on Hard+ not too long ago. It's extremely doable.

[scenic stratus]

its 7 on steam maybe the difficulty ?

[thorn verge]

I thought it was no stamina at all cus ... as soon as I entered hell I couldn’t sprint
I was like “ah, hell, I get it.:. You can’t run”

[scenic stratus]

yeah but early game its hard

[slate gulch]

on Hard+ enemies never flinch

[scenic stratus]

but still makes quake 2 waay more fun

[slate gulch]

in Quake 1 it's debatable if Nightmare or Hard is harder.

[scenic stratus]

i cant beat quake 1

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-I8fNxiQ6WI/maxresdefault.jpg

its because its creepy

[thorn verge]

I ~~beat the game in under 10 hours, I am pr0 soeedrunner ~~ for the achievement for a speedrun

[scenic stratus]

sickest game on the globe

[slate gulch]

on Nightmare the Ogres are dumb as hell since they have no Z aim. But then, it adds in stuff like if an enemy flinches there's a 5 second cooldown before it can flinch again, Vore pods become so fast they outspeed you, and so good at turning they can corner, and Shamblers get an extra lightning beam that hurts you even more.

[scenic stratus]

i hate fiends period.

[slate gulch]

oh fiends have a real fun quirk

if they do their leap and land right on top of you you're dead no matter what.

[scenic stratus]

so thats why

[slate gulch]

it's a constant damage attack until it lands, but they never land if they're on top of your hitbox

[scenic stratus]

i thought that they just had bullshit damage

but that doesnt make them any better

[slate gulch]

they're supposed to leap into you and hurt once, but if that happens, oof

however

Scourge of Armagon and Dissolution of Eternity blow the original away on Nightmare.

[scenic stratus]

im having trouble on e1m3 the final room with a lot of fiends

also i cant stand the music

[slate gulch]

that music is a glorious rendition of lovecraftian misery

[scenic stratus]

yeah its creepy as hell

that piano on e1m2

[slate gulch]

after Quake no game understood until Bloodborne

[scenic stratus]

along with screaming

[scenic stratus]

i saw dunkey's vid about it lmao

[thorn verge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/109799866267389952/799521415454916638/video0.mp4 check it out bois - no sprint

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/cphr84/there_is_no_sprint_toggle_in_hell_doom_3_2019/ just read this

Ima try it lol

[scenic stratus]

sooo was there a fix?

[thorn verge]

LOL you have to hold sprint so hold the stick in - just in hell. That’s so stupid.
Who designed that

Toggle the whole game but not in hell

[scenic stratus]

unik

[thorn verge]

Can we get a patch for this kthx

Kappa super crucial to my gameplay

[scenic stratus]

welp still a long way to go from the id pda i guess

wait do you have the soulcube?

[thorn verge]

Yeah I just beat the game

[slate gulch]

I don't think there ever was a toggle.

[thorn verge]

Toggle worked the entire game for me

[scenic stratus]

oh did you find it?

[thorn verge]

Just in hell it’s ... nonexistent

Yeah I did - thank you

[scenic stratus]

i thought that id logo was just there for design

[thorn verge]

You have to beat the dlc to unlock nightmare? Or is that how it works for every mode

[scenic stratus]

when i realized that my weapon gets holstered when i aimed at it

[slate gulch]

I'm surprised that the game gives you a speedrunner achievement for under 10 hours

never took me more than 6

[scenic stratus]

you can put g_nightmare 1

[scenic stratus]

and yeah

[thorn verge]

I uh. I’m on console YEP

[scenic stratus]

dlc

[scenic stratus]

lucky you. a console + doom 3 😄

pro doom3

indeed

[acoustic kayak]

Indeed!

[slate gulch]

I don't think he was very pro in that

[scenic stratus]

vega

[thorn verge]

Why you trollin me PepeHands

[scenic stratus]

i forgot the whole vid

[slate gulch]

now what Civvie did do was completely sell me on Blood. Ohhhhhh boy.

[scenic stratus]

same here

it made me appreciate the game MORE

[thorn verge]

I just wanted to play doom like you guys BibleThump

[slate gulch]

I did everything on Lightly Broiled after listening to his advice

because Blood's Medium skill is still harder than most games hardest skills

and Blood's hardest skills... heheheh.

[scenic stratus]

a cheap used laptop can help you

[thorn verge]

I don’t see why my platform upsets you to where you need to make jokes

[honest lynx]

He never is

[slate gulch]

I've done a few levels on Well Done and even a few on Extra Crispy, there are people who can actually do the whole game Extra Crispy

oh no, I can confirm him doing Blood and the expansion on Well Done is very pro.

Extra Crispy was made for co op so I can't hold it against him

[honest lynx]

Good at " insert game title "

[slate gulch]

Blood. Very specifically.

remember pro-ish Doom 64?

I did it once the EX way, and when it came to steam with Eternal I launched that thing up on WMD and it's the only game i have every achievement un

technically I did platinum DMC1 on the PS3

I've always yearned for a Doom game to have something like Dante Must Die

never been sure how to translate it though.

imagine if in Eternal you had a setting where every enemy, or simply wave in some cases, had a timer. If that timer goes off and they're still alive, they totem buff. Maybe even fully heal first. And then the bosses either get a new wave, or enough health that your attempt to cheese them doesn't work anymore

the problem of course being with all your tools you don't have a Devil Trigger

[scenic stratus]

I don't like classic doom, but fan's Plutonia2.wad was good

[slate gulch]

classic Doom has a purity never replicated

[scenic stratus]

I averted my eyes from doom64 the very first minute I've seen it

[slate gulch]

Doom 2 added everything that was missing. Except the proper final boss.

Doom 64 was, in all ways, Doom 3. The real one.

it came first, it used advanced from Hexen.

it was still the Doom engine, but now they knew everything they could do with it

quite unlike Doom 3, I don't think it matters if Doom 64 scares you or not, because you're still playing Doom

[scenic stratus]

But serious sam...

[slate gulch]

imagine Serious Sam on Extra Crispy

[scenic stratus]

Aight serious sam is impossible on serious difficulty

[slate gulch]

oh Extra Crispy is possible if you perfectly dynamite and learn how to pitchfork zombies.

[scenic stratus]

First encounter i mean

[scenic stratus]

https://youtu.be/5baynWOCmZQ

[scenic stratus]

Pitchforking just needs you going back and forth

[slate gulch]

biggest thing I learned was every prong does its own damage, so if you land it right you actually do a lot of damage

[scenic stratus]

Death wish is addicted to dybamites and explosions

[slate gulch]

shit I started that but got distracted

I start a million games and never finish them these days

[scenic stratus]

Yeah same here

I might never finish postal 2

[slate gulch]

Oh I did that recently and finally did the new expansion

[scenic stratus]

I just skipped to apoc weekend

The last boss is hilarious

[slate gulch]

oh no that is by far the weakest part of the game

I believe I was doing Manic or something, the hardest regular skill. God it's a slog.

[scenic stratus]

The last boss tho

or better yet PL2 speedrun https://youtu.be/6JVnIR04OqA

the level design is superior

[slate gulch]

now do Plutonia Revisited

[scenic stratus]

one more wad?

[slate gulch]

well Plutonia 3 is an awful joke that should never be touched because some guy just used that name, so the Plutonia Revisited Community Project is the next Plutonia

[scenic stratus]

watching speedrun now. it looks supercool

[slate gulch]

including the new MAP32: Have @ It

if you want to get into the real crazy stuff you'd look for Sunlust

[scenic stratus]

@slate gulch wow

looks too damn awesome

@slate gulch thx

[slate gulch]

and there's also as someone put it to me, Dimensions, about the hardest pwad you could possibly try that's not blatantly unfair or cheap

if you like the idea of pure arcade levels where something new pops up every couple rooms there's Going Down

also some classics like Hell Revealed, Hell Revealed II, and Alien Vendetta, which was made to be a fusion of level design and slaughter

Hell Revealed is more like full on siege warfare against the demons

[scenic stratus]

these ones I know

[slate gulch]

same guy as Sunlust did a little 3 level one called Swim With The Whales

[scenic stratus]

[scenic stratus]

not swift death?

[slate gulch]

more like 'the BFG is the most powerful weapon in Doom. Now learn to use it right.'

not that I'd actually finished playing Dimensions or so many of these wads

too many distractions

[scenic stratus]

lol i always wondered why my unmaker sucked

[slate gulch]

the gun that's only in Doom 64 and Eternal?

[scenic stratus]

yeah

apprently i needed the artifacts
and i only have one of them

it upgrades the unmaker

[slate gulch]

one artifact already speeds up the firing rate of a gun that shoots 3D homing lasers

two lets it target two things at once and 3 gives it 3 lasers to rip apart everything for less cells than the BFG

[scenic stratus]

yeah the design of the unmaker looks similar to half life's hornet gun

[scenic stratus]

damn

[slate gulch]

it's a similar principle to the original BFG, which shot 40 invisible tracers

in Doom 64 it does NOT do that and instead the ball causes a cone to target things

[scenic stratus]

everytime i equip the unmaker the first thing that pops in my mind is "prepare to get unmade b*tch"

idk why

[dusk ermine]

Holy crap

Id software actually succeeded at scaring me

[scenic stratus]

nice

quake 1 scared me more tho

even if its not a horror game

[scenic stratus]

watch a walkthrough of "Silent Descent PC"

[scenic stratus]

is that an id game?

oh its not

an indie horror by some other company

ID is not the only one scaring people

[scenic stratus]

surely

7/10

i expected an 8/9

without watching a walkthrough you can't get the gist

[scenic stratus]

what if i play it?

you should try dusk

do play it if you like horrors of course

[scenic stratus]

not really into horror games

Silent Descent has no weaponry, it's a game to walk and suffer

but dusk is the perfect blend of horror and shooter

but it's pretty unique

the gist is:
you commit suicide
you are in your house
as your spirit submerges in agony — the house transforms multiple times and you end up in hell

it's just too hardcore. i guarantee. might not sound like it, but it's goddamn sick.

aight

you should check out dusk too

dusk

yeah amazing game

that wendigo level still scares me

will check it

the musics good too

dusk trailer looks fantastic

[scenic stratus]

yeah its like a retro throwback

also the music composer for this game is the same one who took over for doom's dlc

Caution: "Silent Descent" is made by terminal psychopaths 🙂

[scenic stratus]

shoot

nice Heavy Metal

in trailer

the in-game music is ambient, listening to it now

yeah its even better if you play it while that music plays

it feels like quake

@scenic stratus reminds me of these melodies for some reason: https://youtu.be/f9KULMPAGGY

[scenic stratus]

i dont have the balls to play this so im watching it lmao

it's not scary to me btw.

I cannot play Silent Descent PC. I watched walkthrough a couple of times though.

[scenic stratus]

yeah they do sound the same

@scenic stratus have you met the first imp in walkthrough? lol

if I play Doom 3 alone, without co-op — it starts pressing down on me. scary.

but opencoop mod changes everything. anybody tried it?

[scenic stratus]

https://i.imgur.com/JiZ1d4s.png

[honest lynx]

How is co op anyways. Better on nightmare?

More enemies?

[scenic stratus]

haven't tried nightmare. about to over the weekend.

[honest lynx]

With co op ?

[scenic stratus]

yup

possibly RoE

[honest lynx]

Let me know if it's fun or if theres an enemy increase or anything. It sounds like a blast

[scenic stratus]

just remembered how shit the shotgun spread is

Literally went point blank at an imp and it didn't kill in one shot

I've actually one shotted a sec from a foot away

[vivid folio]

Hey guys

Is there anything I need to do after purchasing Doom 3 on steam?

[scenic stratus]

You ask for a refund

[slate gulch]

Is it the original?

If you haven't you'll want Resurrection if Evil too

Then you'll want the source port dhewm3

The original Doom 3 isn't a fan of modern hardware, for settings and whatnot, you have to custom resolution, it might give up and crash, and it won't recognize modern headsets as capable of doing EAX reverb

[vivid folio]

Yes, it's the original

[slate gulch]

Yeah, you can try to bear it, but I say as a fan of the game I prefer Dhewm3

All you really have to do is put the PAK files in like classic ones do with WADs

[vivid folio]

Is Dhewm3 standalone, or is it like a mod for the bfg edition

[slate gulch]

No, it's a source port

It let's you run the original files on modern hardware, and Doom 3 doesn't get the luxury of having a GZ or Crispy or such

[vivid folio]

That's a bit disappointing

[slate gulch]

Like I said, the game technically runs but it takes effort and it sometimes just crashes. The in game menu has nothing for modern resolution and you have to do it in the cfg

[vivid folio]

I'll buy it, and see what I can do

[slate gulch]

BFG edition doesn't have those kinds of issues, but it drastically changes the game and not all of it is for the better

[vivid folio]

I actually don't think the bfg edition is that bad, but I still want to play the original

[slate gulch]

Then you know the 'good' changes, but BFG actually also removed extra monsters that Veteran and Nightmare had

It changes Resurrection of Evil more, changing a function of the final boss, removing an entire arena, and also removing an effect that took up an entire level

[vivid folio]

I saw a review of the bfg edition by Gmanlives and I dont think he ever mentions the removal of the enemies, nor the removal of an entire area

Thank you for telling me this

[slate gulch]

Yeah I'm a bit nuts about this game

See in RoE there's supposed to be an effect where a level keeps shifting red. Showing blood running down walls, bodies turning to skeletons, and back. BFG edition it doesn't do it.

[vivid folio]

I bet there's more ridiculous charges than that

[slate gulch]

It's ridiculous because it's a compilation of areas from 3, so it's showing the entire old base is getting stacked into hell

In original RoE you go to a big green fogged room full of waves of monsters before the final boss, but in BFG you just go straight to him

They made you faster, doubled ammo, but took out enemies

The doubled ammo actually isn't necessary either

The flashlight is debatable, but the original was infinite and a weapon, and most enemies have features like glowing eyes

Lost Missions is alright though. Proper mixing in of RoE stuff and some real nice hell levels

[vivid folio]

I got it running

^_^

[slate gulch]

In dhewm3?

[vivid folio]

Yep

[slate gulch]

I should mention things like Phobos won't use the port, but Phobos more than likely does it's own patches to vanilla

Oh and vanilla Doom 3 always let you skip cutscene. BFG took that out for some reason

Be a reason for using RBdoom3bfg like speedrunners do. Also because the 120fps option actually breaks the physics enough to do skips easier

[scenic stratus]

I remember in RoE there was a sewer section or something where zombies had bio suits and you had to use that to not get hurt by the sludge

BFG edition took that out and you can just stand on the sludge without getting hurt

[little raven]

Thats really lame

[slate gulch]

Ah yes. You had to put on a helmet and get oxygen

[honest lynx]

I actually remember that

I was like where my hazmat suit

Also makes the sewers area a breeze

[half plank]

RoE got fucking NEUTERED in BFG Edition. They cut out a section in hell, they removed the hazmat suit (which was even present in the fucking original Xbox version), and all the new arcade games like Hellanoid have been replaced with Turkey Puncher. It's fucking sad.

[honest lynx]

[honest lynx]

No tissues so heres a trite for your issues

[prisma snow]

das a nice rhyme

[half plank]

I was mauled by trite, thank you, I'm dead now.

[slate gulch]

I hopped on things and when they cant teach you they explode

[scenic stratus]

[scenic stratus]

Madlad

[stable lake]

aight
Knowing this I'm gonna first finish my D3 BFG run
But I'll also buy the original soon (ish)

[scenic stratus]

If youplay bfg first then doom3 is gonna feel slow as hell

[stable lake]

perhaps

[scenic stratus]

Funny since hell is the fastest area in doom3

[scenic stratus]

Same here

Ah wait doom 2 maybe

[hoary jewel]

do you guys wanna

[honest lynx]

Explode in a archvile blast ? Nah I'm good

[slate gulch]

Only some Archviles even do that in 3

[half plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/757420034229272579/800238850651848714/Screenshot_20210116-214221_DuckDuckGo.jpg

2004 graphics aside, explain how hes ugly?

you enter our domain with negativity? @honest lynx we got another one.

[scenic stratus]

This is so sad

[half plank]

well of course, doomguy himself is better

[scenic stratus]

Almost every day pips watch a review about doom 3 and think doom 3 sucks

[slate gulch]

I see a new hand touches the beacon

[versed estuary]

Why bother even joining a chat to complain about it. If you don’t like it just don’t talk about it

[slate gulch]

We are the pillarmen of doom 3. You have 33 days to get gud

[scenic stratus]

I like doom 3 more than the classics (except for doom 2)

Boi the main theme kicks ass and chews gum

[half plank]

MolochMekkane joined the ranks of the #doom-3 defenders, and the haters fear, for there is another to fight against their arguments.

[scenic stratus]

WHAT

[honest lynx]

The elders are always here. Always

[slate gulch]

Wrong. The super shotgun is completely superior

[scenic stratus]

Iamsoconfusedrn

[half plank]

man, either youre the best baiter alive, or your takes are just shit

[honest lynx]

Literally one of the best ssgs in the series

[scenic stratus]

Yeah you never played the game

If anything was a bad it was the shotgun

[slate gulch]

At least in Doom 3 you shoot actual bullets and not hitscan

[half plank]

the council has decided your place in this channel... unworthy

[honest lynx]

Unworthy