doom-3

[simple wasp]

I wish BFG did more to smooth the enemy models

[main sky]

I wish we get a remake of doom 3 in a new idtech engine

[simple wasp]

Did he fr say moonbase lmfao

[minor edge]

ya :P

[main sky]

Maybe machine games can use idtech8 to do that

[simple wasp]

I thought he knew Doom 3 took place on Mars

[main sky]

But they're probably gonna focus more on the next Indiana Jones so

[simple wasp]

MG needs to remake it, I agree

[main sky]

MG is the only studio allowed to use idtech lmfao

[simple wasp]

The combat is a bit stiff in the og 3 and I always use their Wolfenstein games as a comparison for how reloading should be handled

Plus all the leaning around would be great for the visual horror aspects of 3, to let players peek around and see weird stuff that goes away when they fully enter the room

Would make ZSec combat more engaging

[quasi silo]

They're also the perfect fit for a more serious DOOM game

[main sky]

I am replaying doom 3 on veteran difficulty and holy shit there are way more zsec than on normal difficulty

[simple wasp]

I love that the zombies in 3 feel like walking tanks tbh

Should be the way they're done

[main sky]

Imagine if both studios make doom games, Id makes fast paced games while MG makes slow paced horror ones like doom 3

[quasi silo]

I wouldn't want that tbh, I'd want MG to do a one-off game for DOOM, I want them to keep focusing on Wolf

[main sky]

Wait I know, MG needs to make a quake game. That would be goated

[simple wasp]

They know what they're doing when making a realistic shooter that's also fun, so I really wouldn't mind if they chose to remake Doom 1 or 3

[quasi silo]

I've been saying I want them to do a D3 sequel for almost a year now

[simple wasp]

Okay a sequel would be really lit

I agree there, since that would allow for more creativity

The marine staying in hell with the soul cube does beg the question of what the ensuing events are like, especially given that the same object is present in the modern games

[main sky]

True. We absolutely need another game in that timeline

[quasi silo]

If the Soul Cube were to be usable again idk if I'd prefer it to explode the target or slice through it seemlessly

[simple wasp]

They turn into hamburger

[main sky]

[simple wasp]

I wonder if the demons would begin to just decide "Yeah, this guy is the new guardian of the Soul Cube, let's just leave him there"

||Final boss of the sequel is Samuel Hayden||

[main sky]

We don't know who the ceo of the uac is in Doom 3 so it could be very well Samuel Hayden

The doom 3 version of Samuel

[simple wasp]

I want to think that the consistent design language is on purpose

[main sky]

Well what do you guys want more, MG to reboot quake or MG to remake doom 3 in idtech8

[simple wasp]

I'm with AnomeQ on a sequel to 3, it would be everything we like and more

[main sky]

Having two studios make doom games would be a dream ngl

[simple wasp]

I really can't see how they'd make design choices as baffling as in base 3 so I can't imagine such a thing would be a bad idea

[quasi silo]

I don't think it would, they might have creative differences that will lead to the game being delayed (if you are talking about them doing one game together)

[simple wasp]

Honestly I'm not as interested in them making a Quake game since I feel that their custom maps were pretty boring

[main sky]

No, both doing different games. Maybe Id can focus on the modern doom timeline while MG can focus on doom 3s timeline

[simple wasp]

Their horde mode maps were more interesting aesthetically

[quasi silo]

Again I disagree but it wouldn't be terrible to have

[main sky]

Or maybe another timeline completely

[quasi silo]

That'd be confusing

[main sky]

Whatever I just want MG to go back to fps games 💀 I liked Indiana Jones but it was more of a puzzle game

[simple wasp]

Modern Doom having the Soul Cube, broken and old STTP3 arcade cabinets, 3's plasma gun, and the Vagary all kind of indicate to me that 3 is part of the main timeline

Maykr technology bears a striking resemblance to some of the tech features seen in Site 3, especially with the glowing golden white lights and egg shaped structures

[quasi silo]

I take the first 3 as just references and the plasma gun as a way to keep the design consistent

[simple wasp]

Easter eggs make sense when it's one game but these are across 3 games, so I find it more likely to be on purpose

[quasi silo]

Idk if it's that crazy to call back to an earlier mainline important game repeatedly

[main sky]

It is, betruger is mentioned in 2016 and there's a castle named after him. Let's not forget the soul cube was in 2016 or eternal I don't remember which but it was there as an Easter egg

[simple wasp]

Not crazy, I just think it's intentional

[simple wasp]

Damn there's even more I didn't see then

[quasi silo]

Where is he mentioned in 2016?

[main sky]

Castle betruger

[quasi silo]

That's in TAG 1

[main sky]

Ik it's just 1 location but let me cope 😭

[quasi silo]

I know in the meta it's named after him but in the canon it doesn't have to be

[unkempt crescent]

I dunno. I feel like if that happens, it's definitely not going to look like Doom 3. If you get what I mean with that.
Plus I don't think ID would want to remake any of their games.

[main sky]

True, in fact like anomeq said a sequel to it would be a better idea. Perhaps made by MG

[simple wasp]

The evidence is getting overwhelming

Though I also wouldn't be surprised if Hugo Martin was just using names that sounded cool to him

[unkempt crescent]

Machine Games has been wanting to make a Quake game.
Would love to see them merge both Quake 1 & 2. They're already connected anyway

[unkempt crescent]

Prolly. Lol

[simple wasp]

I feel that anything they go out of their way to remake the models of, they have some kind of intent regarding them, whereas if they were just one-off Easter eggs they would quickly import existing assets (like the classic levels in 2016)

The Eternal soul cube afaik is a newer, higher poly model

[main sky]

I would absolutely love a quake game by MG

[simple wasp]

So like, they had to have put a lot of purposeful intent behind making the plasma rifle in 2016 look like the one from 3 and coordinating other original plasma weapons with its style

Especially considering 3 was an unpopular game at that time

We can also assume that was the art style they specifically wanted to go for before they changed their minds suddenly midway through working on Doom Eternal

I believe the similarities with 3 are very intentional as a result

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, couldn't bring up Doom 3 without someone regurgitating their favorite shallow youtuber/streamer who followed that popular trend. Lol

[simple wasp]

Yeah, with that context in consideration, it was a very bold move for id to have followed through on accurately emulating the style

Meaning there was intent behind choosing not to just make Classic Doom HD

[simple wasp]

Though I also feel that there is some kind of disconnect between the art department and executive control, based on how some things are designed versus how they're named, like the Gauss Cannon, which is designed as the most visually accurate railgun I've ever seen in a game (that also shoots the railgun beams from both Quake 2 and 3), because it's designed with two electrostatic rails, not a Gauss coil

It should be called the Railgun because that is so obviously what the artists depicted, but someone decided somewhere, seemingly at the last minute that it should be named after fallout guns instead of the id software legacy weapon

Sorry this is more of 2016 ramblings now than 3

[unkempt crescent]

Being honest, I always refer to the gauss canon as a railgun cuz that's what it is.

[simple wasp]

I still find it interesting that despite id redesigning most demons to look more classic in Eternal, they still kept the Hellknight design largely unchanged from 3, because it is absolute peak

Not sure how much of that choice was either lore intent or just because it's too perfect to substantially change

[main sky]

It's way better than being a simple Baron of hell recolor

[simple wasp]

Real

[minor edge]

Especially given the other castle is also named after a doom 3 character

And it’s just the scientist from the opening

And I doubt he’d get a whole castle

[supple gull]

I call the Machine Gun the Assault Rifle or Submachine Gun

Always intrigued me how ID liberally refers to assault rifles and submachine guns in their games as simply machine guns.

[unkempt crescent]

I forget that the Doom 3 SMG is called a machine gun. Lol

Last time I played Doom 3 I didn't even use the SMG. Plasma rifle and chaingun just outperforms it. And since the environment is confined, I'm always opting for shotgun. Hate how the shotgun is viewed as shit, when it's perfectly designed for Doom 3.

[heady edge]

Shotgun and Flashlight are my favorite weapons by far.

[main sky]

Shtogun is the best melee weapon

[unkempt crescent]

Is the flashlight in the og unjokingly a good melee weapon?

[heady edge]

Oh it's unreasonably legit lol

Can gib zombies, corpses, and even living humans in 1-3 hits.

I can't recommend using it against much else simply due to their damage outputs, but like... it does do some decent damage though. The big problem is the timing of the hit after pressing the button to swing. If you aren't comfy with that, you're gonna have a real bad time.

[unkempt crescent]

That's actually insane.
If I recall, the fists take more swings

[heady edge]

I don't know the exact values, but you are correct though.

[main sky]

Too bad it's not easy to hit zombies with it without getting hit yourself

[main sky]

But there's a lot of smg ammo compared to chaingun ammo in the game

[heady edge]

There's a rhythm to it. If you go for a few zombies, you'll get the hang of it.

It's really worse things like Imps or Pinkies that you don't want to play that game with so much.

[main sky]

I used to do it on my first playthrough but now I've realized it's better to use the pistol for zombie civilians

3 or 4 headshots and they die pretty fast

[heady edge]

I always whip out my flashlight for zombies in my playthroughs. Goes faster. Uses no ammo.

[main sky]

Pistol ammo isn't really needed so that's why I use it for weak enemies like zombies

[heady edge]

I'm also an absolute tool when it comes to gibbing stuff in silly ways... I just HAVE to lol.

[main sky]

I remember my first playthrough when I used to gib every dead body I saw because I thought they were gonna turn into zombies

[heady edge]

Ahh yeah. They did a good job with the environment and making the player afraid of everything. My first playthrough had a LOT of that going on.

[unkempt crescent]

It's why I don't use chaingun except for archvile, cacos, and Mancubus.
I'm typically always using shotgun, and occasionally switching off to melee or plasma rifle depending on the situation.
The combat shotgun is deadly as fuck.

[main sky]

Absolutely true. People say the spread needs to be smaller but nah, it would just ruin it since it would one tap every enemy basically from far

[heady edge]

Might as well give us slugs at that point lol

[main sky]

I really want a sequel to this game lol

[misty abyss]

might as well bash demons with shotgun like cancelled Doom 4 melee kills

[main sky]

The doom 3 shotgun doesn't shoot regular shells, it shoots painted pieces of metal and that's why it's so inaccurate

[heady edge]

I wouldn't mind more games in the DOOM 3 style. I saw something for Classic DOOM called Lost in Darkness and the way it changes it into straight up survival horror is rather impressive. Gimme more with some solid 3D graphics.

[main sky]

MG to make a Doom 3 sequel

Would be perfect if that happened

[heady edge]

It fires all of the paint chips kids used to eat back in the day. Loads them straight from Hell into the chamber.

[main sky]

Why does every marine we see in game that's not the player use the smg?

[heady edge]

Good question. I remember when they were first showing off Eternal and we saw the random dudes holding Plasma Rifles. Made me think of exactly what you're saying here because like... what a choice.... of all the weapons, they gave'em SMGs... No wonder nobody survives this game other than the player character lol

Meanwhile whats-his-nuts just casually walks across all of Mars with a BFG

[main sky]

Yeah, he survived for long and even fought sergeant Kelly

But really I think it's possible to beat doom 3 using only the smg except for the final boss of course since you need the soul cube

[heady edge]

Do you?

[main sky]

The cyber demon can be damaged only with the soul cube

[heady edge]

Huh...

My memory does fail me from time to time, so I'll just believe you.

[main sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418478500274765826/1378122791362101399/Copie_decran_20250530_232050.gif

[unkempt crescent]

Are the grenades any good?
They're the only weapon I don't really use.

[main sky]

They're kinda mid

[unkempt crescent]

I would only ever try using them for cacos and hell knights. But I rather use plasma rifle for cacos, and combat shotgun for hell knights

[main sky]

I find the grenades useless when the rpg exists

[misty abyss]

I grenade spammed atleast 2 hell knights to death

[main sky]

Can we grenade the maledict

[quasi silo]

Grenades are great against normal enemies

[main sky]

https://tenor.com/view/here-have-this-doom-3-trailer-e3-grenade-gif-2017822753097025467

[simple wasp]

The mancubus that the game first introduced I grenadespammed 💀

They're not as useful as grenades in other games because they don't throw very far

[unkempt crescent]

Kinda wish depending on how you angle your grenade throw, it'll go further. And if you're looking somewhat at the ground, then you'll skip the grenade across the floor.

[simple wasp]

The only advantage they have over the rocket launcher is that they don't have to reload 💀

[unkempt crescent]

There'll be a few times where I'd try throwing the grenade from out behind cover. Even cook the damn grenade, but always see that thing bounce back towards me.
And either my soul becomes argent enegry, or I survive with my legs blown off.

[quasi silo]

They're great against Commandos

[unkempt crescent]

The chaingun commandos?

[quasi silo]

Both the chaingun ones and the ones with the long arm

[unkempt crescent]

Chaingunners I can definitely see the use. Though, with long arm I'd just bait him into lunging at me. Crouch before his hit lands, and decorate the ceiling with his gray matter

[supple gull]

I wish ID made a reference to the "Plasma Rifle in the 40 watt range" joke in a PDA.

Replaying Doom 3, I remember just how bland the enemy placement is in some levels

[crude badger]

Imp behind every door

[vernal crest]

in their defense they had monster closets in previous games too

just keeping the traditions

[unkempt crescent]

I think we all get that.
It's more so you'll find more imps than possessed. To my memory it didn't feel that way but I do need to replay Doom 3

[simple wasp]

I gotta say I did get really bored of the constant teleporting, only sometimes did the monster encounters feel really clever

[heady edge]

I can't tell you how many times, even on the first playthrough, I would see an area and sarcastically be like, "Oh boy, I sure hope a bunch of things don't teleport in while Betruger laughs at me as I murder them all easily"

[obsidian igloo]

I saw another one of those "Doom 3 is a good game but a bad Doom game" person today, and to nobodies shock, the man never even opened doom 3 in his life and was trying to talk like he did

I feel i only ever see people who've never played doom 3 say that

[unkempt crescent]

Just goes to show their lack of understanding Doom

[simple wasp]

Betruger laughing honestly makes it bearable for me since I think he's an awesome villain lol

[obsidian igloo]

They were literally talking like "in my opinion it changed too much etc etc" like why even say it "changed too much" if you never touched it

Also they started with eternal, legit the starter pack

[simple wasp]

I wish we got to learn more about why he was so easily swayed by the prospect of killing everyone else in Mars City

Like why was he so fucked up ya know

[unkempt crescent]

At that point all of their criticism of Doom as a series is invalid

[simple wasp]

changes too much
started with eternal
That is a bit baffling yeah but sorta the same kind of take as classic fans who hate 3, just at the opposite end

[heady edge]

I got DOOM 3 when it released. Still have my physicals for PC and XBox. Played it a lot of times, including co-op but obviously not exclusively. I do think DOOM 3 was a subpar DOOM game, but an alright horror game. Subpar meaning it didn't meet expectations, not meaning that I think it is specifically bad.

[simple wasp]

Real and valid

I'm in the niche where most of what it seeks to do or portray, I like

[obsidian igloo]

And thats fine, that is completely fair, you played it, but it is a shame people form their entire opinions on a game through the opinions of youtubers without ever giving it a chance themselves

[heady edge]

Yeah there's a lot of "content" creators out there just looking for clicks and not actually informing themselves before opening their mouths. Definitely shameful.

[simple wasp]

I wish content creators would instead explore the implications of stuff way into 3, but that would require them actually playing the games they talk about lol

I can't stop thinking about the gigantic skulls after Mars City has been hellified, they make me think of the Romero head Easter egg but approached in a completely serious manner

[obsidian igloo]

Ill be honest doom 3 is a top 4 to top 3 doom game for me, i've beaten it 5 times, once on nightmare just today, I really think i love it so much because it changed so much and had its own identity, and I really loved what they had to offer woth the atmosphere, gameplay and lighting

[unkempt crescent]

Only content creators I've actually liked for Doom 3 are Lechumqc, Kirk Collects, Civvie11, and Le Kolega.

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 is a game doom game

[obsidian igloo]

The flashlight I think fit the games tension very well, and I actually really enjoy that when you get better at the game, instead of becoming obsolete, it essentially is like a quick swap where you gain knowledge of enemy positioning, then you handle it accordingly, the game feels really fast when you get going in a tough encounter

[scenic stratus]

good bad game doom

[unkempt crescent]

Lechumqc for lore purposes.
Kirk and Civvie11 for review.
And Le Kolega for how Doom 3 arsenal works. Atm he's only covered the Combat Shotgun and BFG

[supple gull]

I wish the morgue zombie appeared more often. There should've been some in the Delta Labs.

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, would've been cool to see the husks in a more damaged state. Wounds caused by demons and self inflictions.

Like maybe with some possessed soliders that don't have a full helmet, have their skin and muscle removed around their jaw.

[rustic solar]

is the doom 3 main menu theme song based on lateralus by tool?

they sound so similar

[jagged quest]

#videos message finished the darkstar ship tho i wonder if it could use better colors, feel free to give ideas

[simple wasp]

I've heard that it is

[rustic solar]

Yea I was gonna say because it sounds extremely familiar

[unkempt crescent]

It does. {:

[rustic solar]

yea

[lilac canopy]

guys is there a Co-op mod for DOOM 3 since it had one back in the OG Xbox era?

[scenic stratus]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/opencoop

[lilac canopy]

I'm still new to Modding... how I do this

[lilac canopy]

this works for original DOOM 3 right not BFG?

[scenic stratus]

Yep its for og doom

There's also a version for the dhewm 3 source port

[lilac canopy]

is BFG Edition just not supported for Mods?
and there is no MP for BFG edition right?
Could've sword I played Multiplayer for it back on the 360.

[quasi silo]

BFG has MP, it's the Bethesda.net Edition that lacks it

[lilac canopy]

what about the one on Steam?

[quasi silo]

That is BFG, it has the MP

[lilac canopy]

or the re release on last gen consoles?

[quasi silo]

It also comes with the OG

[quasi silo]

That is the Bethesda.net Edition

[lilac canopy]

I wonder if the servers are still active and live with players for BFG or DOOM 3

[scenic stratus]

its pretty much death

[quasi silo]

One benefit to the modern versions lacking MP is this channel doesn't share the fate the 2016 channel has, being used for LFGing

[supple gull]

Little Fucking Gunning?

[heady edge]

We don't talk about the Little Fucking Gun

[supple gull]

Anyone else enjoy shooting out the lights?

[bronze olive]

librecoop is way more finished

(also i suggest getting the latest librecoop development build from the github actions)

also if you dont wanna use the dhewm3 source port for whatever reason, i would suggest mcs + xcoop it doesn't really play like vanilla but the campaign and netcode stuff is way more finished though it's better as a new game+ coop experience

[dry sapphire]

A mod I helped make got released on GOG as part of their new curated mods 😄

https://www.gog.com/en/game/doom_3_phobos

[tough fjord]

best doom game

[azure shoal]

No

[scenic stratus]

The fuck you mean “No”?

[azure shoal]

Classic doom for me

[scenic stratus]

i disagree

[azure shoal]

Still really like doom 3 lol

Fair

Does the bruiser have eyes

I want to know, for reasons

[azure shoal]

HEY I WANNA KNOW PLEASE

Please🙏

I'm gonna camp here

[scenic stratus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1382469293169442816/IMG_5597.jpg?ex=684b445c&is=6849f2dc&hm=bce5b1e9d9303ad92be41f788bda5030ec8c2e5093bce67a4577afb30cd4a899&

[sonic chasm]

I tend to forget how fucking weird some demon designs are in doom 3

[azure shoal]

Thank yu

This is perfect

[sonic chasm]

Can’t post the pic but they also have normal eyes as well

[azure shoal]

I do wanna see

[scenic stratus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1382470838464286751/IMG_5598.png?ex=684b45cc&is=6849f44c&hm=93f76aa032d0dbc3ef464199eccd9370708f86c50f61c91403a2b305a69a4c94&

tiny image

[azure shoal]

Hey he sorta has tentacles

Hugo new cosmic enemy right here

[sonic chasm]

the mancubus in doom 3 has tentacles too, so theres that

[cursive gulch]

Why did they change the weapon sound effects?

The ones from the beta were infinitely better

[simple wasp]

This i wholeheartedly agree with

[supple gull]

I like how you can hear Campbell killing Cherubs at the beginning of CPU Complex.

[tacit apex]

Hey guys, I'm having issues launching doom 3 /BFG edition on my pc. The issue is it only wants to launch on my laptop screen no matter what I do. Even if I manage to drag the game over to the other screen it will only full screen on the laptop display.

-I've made my monitor my main display
-I've extended then put it to only display 2
-Id prefer not to play on my laptop screen nor in tabbed

I'd appreciate any help or turning to any FAQ/fix thread for this

[stoic cloak]

Bob

[modest ore]

Yeah, but it's still a shame they took out the multiplayer.

[tacit apex]

It doesn't matter which version it's the same issue, but I just want to play the bfg edition of the game

[errant tundra]

Is Doom 3 like Dark Souls 2?

I realize that's a confusing question. Let me give some context.

I'm primarily a Souls gamer. I've done litteraly everything in the Souls series and boy did I have fun. I had the least amount of fun with Dark Souls 2, but i still had fun and finished everything including the DLCs. In the Souls community, DS2 is something that's controversial. It was cool to say it's bad, then the counterculture has decided nope its cool to say it's good, and people get into pissing contests about why it's the best game ever or worst game ever made. I'm not here to say if it's good or not, just that it's something of a controversy in Souls. What cannot be argued is that DS2 made a lot of changes to the formula that were not present in DS1, and because of those differences, people have strong feelings about loving or hating DS2. I can point you towards Hbomberguy and Mauler on YouTube if you want more info on the controversial things for DS2.

Now I'm something of a newcomer to Doom. I didn't pick it up until 2019, and I started with Doom 2016. I really enjoyed it, I also really enjoyed Eternal and I have mixed feelings on Dark Ages. Right before covid, I picked up the Slayer collection, which has Doom 1-4 (4 being 2016). I've not yet played 3 because I heard it was bad.

But come to think of it, is it actually bad or is this the Dark Souls 2 thing where it's just different from the others, and it's sometimes cool to defend it and other times cool to shit on it regardless of its own qualities and merits (or lack their of?)

I don't know much about Doom 3, I was flirting with the idea of playing it so I don't want to know too much going into it. Statements of quality aside, the one thing I've heard about it mechanically is that it's a lot more horror/ story based than the other entries.

So are DS2 and Doom 3 both victims of trying to break the mold, or are they genuinely seen as bad games? I'm gonna keep my thoughts on DS2 to myself, and I have not yet played Doom 3 so I'm not gonna give any judgement on it.

Other question, if it is more horror based, is it like Alien Isolation? I don't really do horror games because I have an anxiety disorder. Alien Isolation was one of the best games I've ever played, I'd say it's hands down the best movie game ever. That said, it legitimately gave me heart palpitations, and it's litteraly the only thing I've done that gave me heart palpitations. If Doom 3 is scary like Alien Isolation, even if it's an awesome game, I probably can't play it. Alien (1979) is one of my favorite movies but idk if I can suck it up and push thru Doom 3 if is really scary.

[wind viper]

Looking forward to the Phobos mod. 👌

[wind viper]

I love Alien Isolation.

[crude badger]

doom is doom so yeah its good still

[wind viper]

It's probably a bit more action based than Alien Isolation. I've been referring to Doom 3 as a survival/survivor horror, however someone recently corrected me and said that it's an action horror.

If you've played Quake 4, that's pretty close, but slightly more action oriented, Doom 3 would fall in between Quake 4 and Alien Isolation thematically.

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, Just like Dead Space and Evil Within, Doom 3 is also action horror.

[lusty scaffold]

Ds2 is fire

[lusty scaffold]

.

[simple wasp]

You're not going to get one-shotted (except sometimes on Nightmare) but demons will intimidate you, though they are avoidable

It's not necessarily as abjectly punishing as dark souls until you get to later Z-Sec fights

It does have a kind of methodical nature to the combat though

[unkempt crescent]

My personal favorite is prolly Dead Space 1 og

[lusty scaffold]

Love all but fav is ds2

[peak saddle]

If you are new to Doom then don't listen to anyone here. Its mostly casuals who found out about Doom in 2020, as you said, started to trash Doom 3 because it's trendy.

D3 is a very good game, and a very good Doom game. More Doom than The Dark Ages, especially in atmosphere, although the casuals will disagree and say otherwise.

Just play it and if you like it cool, if not it would be cool to not continue the trend "D3 sucks". There are many people missing out on it because of this

[tropic knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1127173653956657172/1383038324293370058/9x8dmk.gif

[wind viper]

I mean you're literally a trained marine in Doom 3, with access to proper weapons, rather than having to knock together makeshift weapons.

[obtuse night]

Just tried a bit of doom 3

Feels like half life

[scenic stratus]

Fellow Souls nerd here and former challenge runner
I think DOOM 3 and DS2 are very different

Jus different games in general. And they do try to break a mold in their franchise, yes

It is more horror-based and more jumpscary than other doom games, yes.

[summer ravine]

yeah Doom 3 is still peak, it's just kinda slower-paced and a little creepy, and you don't play as an immortal superhuman

[woven flower]

I've beaten Doom3 so many times.
I love it, but it's encounters are pretty small compared to nuDoom.
Maybe I should give Phobos mod a go?

[obtuse night]

I knew it wouldn't be similar to the rest of the franchise, but not like this

Yeah it's fun

But im a scaredy cat 💀

[obtuse night]

I just met pinkies, not fun at all

God i hate how many times imps come out of nowhere

I already hate them from the classics

Already had a mini heart attack and grew white hair dw

[sullen flare]

lmao

[blissful trail]

Has anybody every actually figured out the translations for the Z-sec voicelines? (These are my assumed translations):
"Degu sek-tak suluva" = We are in trouble.
"Tak suluva, se shet" = Thats right, its six.
"Ku deksa, degu sik." = (Unknown)
"Ka-zul tik, fo tik dega." = (Unknown)
"Degu sik" = Lets go
"Magul" = Teammate / Friendly / Friendly?
"Gulu ke samur" = Save your ammo

[blissful trail]

This language is partly made up but based off Aramaic, but I got Basque translations instead.

[honest goblet]

Can anyone help me with online achievement on pc

[nocturne sundial]

i dont like doom 3

doom 3 is the worst game in the franchise of doom

[honest goblet]

Why is that

[nocturne sundial]

idk,doom 3 isnt horror

it feels lkke ur character is slow

and doom not supposed to be scary

[honest goblet]

Yes it is

[unkempt crescent]

K

[nocturne sundial]

but is good game

[honest goblet]

Doom is more scary than resident evil

[unkempt crescent]

Again with this shit

[honest goblet]

Ikr

[nocturne sundial]

doom eternal feels very scare on ultra nightmare

[honest goblet]

What ur problem with doom games @nocturne sundial

[nocturne sundial]

my computer runs doom eternal on 30 fps

on lowest settings

[honest goblet]

What ur cpu and graphic card do u have then

[nocturne sundial]

yes i have

[honest goblet]

I can run high settings on mine

[unkempt crescent]

So you fail to understand what makes Doom, Doom.
Doom has always been horror. The classic games were more akin to Evil Dead 1 & 2. Doom Eternal even has horror elements but it's dwindled down so much by Eternal's shit art style.

[honest goblet]

Some people don't understand doom games

[nocturne sundial]

video card:mx130

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, and it's infuriating

[honest goblet]

I have 3060 12 gb and 5800x so my pc can run good

I grow up playing doom games @unkempt crescent

[unkempt crescent]

In 2016, we're the slowest we've ever been. And Doom 3 is set in tight confined spaces yet we're still so much faster

[unkempt crescent]

Same, grew up playing classic Doom on my Xbox 360

[honest goblet]

I didn't have Xbox is was always on Playstation now im on pc

[nocturne sundial]

i grow up on Serious Sam games

the 1 encounter is my favourite

[honest goblet]

I like doom eternal and doom dark ages @unkempt crescent

[nocturne sundial]

doom eternal is about aggresive gameplay

[scenic stratus]

DOOM Eternal is the perfect DOOM game

[nocturne sundial]

honestly,i played whole Doom Eternal on 30-40 fps

[scenic stratus]

Anything else is bad and boring😴

[nocturne sundial]

Doom Eternal is good game

[scenic stratus]

But a bad DOOM game

[honest goblet]

I didn't really like dlc

[nocturne sundial]

but Doom 1 is better

i mean DOOM 2016

i dont really like Marauders and Archviles

[honest goblet]

There was no archviles in doom 2016

[nocturne sundial]

but Archvile is very bad enemy

i know what is the worst on Doom Eternal

Battlemode

[scenic stratus]

the summoner and archvile are basically the same thing

[nocturne sundial]

the summoner,who is this?

[honest goblet]

Ikr

[nocturne sundial]

Summoner=Archvile?

[charred plaza]

More like fun game mode

[nocturne sundial]

i cant play Battlemode

[charred plaza]

Why

[modest ore]

Nah, Battle mode in Doom Eternal is a disappointment. But then again, that's what happens when the multiplayer shooter market is oversaturated.

[nocturne sundial]

bcz i downloaded pirate version

[charred plaza]

Bruh

I'm Telling Hugo Martin

[nocturne sundial]

bcz in steam version it didnt let me register

[scenic stratus]

Every attempt at a mp mode on doom is going to be a failure

[nocturne sundial]

it thinks im from Russia(

but im in Spain now,Bethesda closed servers in Russia

[modest ore]

Every attempt at a multiplayer mode that tries to be different from a lot of multiplayer shooters these days is going to be a failure.

[scenic stratus]

Thank god there's none on tda

[nocturne sundial]

Doom TDA haves Denuvo?

[modest ore]

That's why Resident Evil Resistance and Re:Verse tanked.

[crude badger]

Since when did people hate deathmatch in classic doom?

It popularized it

[honest goblet]

I like all doom games

[scenic stratus]

Apply that to modern doom mechanics

[nocturne sundial]

but can i pirate doom games?

please

i can,torrent is existing

[modest ore]

Or try something different. That's why I fear Fox Hunt mode in Metal Gear Solid Delta is not going to do well.

[crude badger]

2016 mp wasnt bad, they just tried to push it hard
Battle mode sucked

[modest ore]

Yeah, I agree. Unfortunately, the multiplayer shooter market is so oversaturated that it's hard to do a multiplayer mode nowadays. They could do something different, but it'll fail.

[nocturne sundial]

bruh,i just coped my nickname from one of the bosses of Doom Eternal

*copied

[honest goblet]

I don't think khan is doom fan

[modest ore]

Like, why pay $60-$80 for a game that has a lackluster multiplayer mode when there are a lot of better multiplayer shooters out there that you can play for free?

[nocturne sundial]

Khan Maykr is a boss

u can google it

im played like 2-3 doom games

[broken mortar]

i look like the guardian in this game irl

[nocturne sundial]

not a doom fan so,but i lime doom games

*ljke

[scenic stratus]

“Wasnt that bad” and when it was released everybody was shitting on it saying it was just like halo

[nocturne sundial]

when Doom TDA was released,all said what Doom Eternal is best,whats wrong with this people

*these

[honest goblet]

No doom 2016 rank number one

[nocturne sundial]

Doom 2016 has slow gameplay,but arcade mode is peak,i like it

[modest ore]

The point I am making is that there are so many multiplayer shooters out there that it's hard to do a multiplayer mode without being compared to Halo and Call of Duty. That's why they tried so hard to do multiplayer modes that are different from the usual multiplayer shooter, only for those same multiplayer modes to end up in failure. Hell, that's what Capcom did with Resident Evil Resistance and Re:Verse, and they both tanked.

[honest goblet]

Doom 2016 has best glory kills

[scenic stratus]

RE mp attempts failed because thats not what RE is about

[nocturne sundial]

@honest goblet i agree

doom 2016 is more brutal than Doom Eternal

[modest ore]

Indeed, and as much as I look forward to the Fox Hunt mode in Metal Gear Solid Delta, I honestly have a bad feeling that it's not going to do well.

[unkempt crescent]

How?

[scenic stratus]

imagine if they could run just like in classic doom

[unkempt crescent]

Go in general chat and scream that you pirated Doom Eternal. Lol

[honest goblet]

Khan got banned from this server 🤣🤣🤣

[unkempt crescent]

Yep, cuz he kept wanting attention for pirating Doom. Lmao

[honest goblet]

I miss it sorry he message me about i said oh well his fault

[supple gull]

I like the UAC aesthetic in this game.

[unkempt crescent]

Me too.
I'm just a sucker for industrial futurism. Especially when it's mixed into lovecraft

[blissful trail]

.

[whole venture]

Dam

The game is actually pretty good

I only dislike the fact demons get invincible for a second when I shoot them with a shotgun in a really close range

[quasi silo]

They don't do that, what do you mean?

[blissful trail]

Sorry what???

[misty abyss]

Pretty sure they're invincible during scripted animations

cause I experienced similar stuff

Like you shoot imp when it spectacularly crawls out and it won't die

[whole venture]

Usually when it’s idle too or about to throw a fireball

It’s weird af.

[misty abyss]

Didn't experience this, unless you're using shotgun they should be dying consistently in these situations

[whole venture]

It is the shotgun. I mostly shoot imps as close as possible for insta kills.

Actually hold on, does the game have parts damage stuff? Like headshots?

Bfg

Dam, my shoots are between chest and head.

[quasi silo]

I've played the PC, BFG, and Bethesda edition, and this also never happened to me

[whole venture]

Interesting

[quasi silo]

The 2019 version is officially called DOOM 3: Bethesda.net Edition

[whole venture]

What’s different about it?

I’m so used to games like counter strike and I’m still getting used to the game not having to cancel reloading if I wanna switch weapons.

I gotta wait until the weapon’s reloaded and then it switches

[quasi silo]

It's nearly identical to BFG but it has no DOOM and DOOM II, it has no multiplayer modes, but it has a better flashlight and is XPA on Xbox

[whole venture]

Better flashlight?

[quasi silo]

I hear the shadows look better but idk never noticed anything

[whole venture]

Neat

[modest ore]

There should be a Nightdive edition that's basically the original 2004 edition remastered and includes the co-op mode from the OG Xbox port.

[quasi silo]

And has the BFG features on a toggle

[whole venture]

Just finished the game and wow.

I just love how strong and scary they made the hell knight.

[honest goblet]

Does anyone play multiple player on pc

[honest goblet]

Why do u hate it if may ask

[unkempt crescent]

I love this game

[honest goblet]

Im trying to get multiple player achievement if that even possible

Maybe it's not ur type game

[supple gull]

The Wraith should've been properly introduced in the cutscene where Bravo Team gets attacked.

[whole venture]

Oh absolutely
How long is it?

[simple wasp]

This reminds me, demon intro cutscenes are another badass thing that 3 gave to the franchise

[supple gull]

It always puzzled me how all security guards became Z-Secs, until I realized that Bertruger probably told the demons to prioritize possessing them to lower security.

[unkempt crescent]

Lost mission is eh.
Resurrection of Evil is great however

[blissful trail]

Speaking of Z sec, does anybody know what their saying? I have a few presumed translations.

[whole venture]

Is that the story order?

[whole venture]

Especially hell knight. Oof the aura

[latent widget]

hi

[jagged quest]

made replica models from doom 3 in snapmap #screenshots

[tough fjord]

best doom game

[mortal igloo]

Hey guys

What are the differences between Doom 3 and bfg?

[quasi silo]

^ Answered in general

[unkempt crescent]

Story order is Doom 3, RoE, then lost mission

[quasi silo]

Lost Mission happens during the events of DOOM 3 tho

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah.
@whole venture, so it'll be Doom 3, Lost Mission, and then RoE

I think I honestly forget about lost mission at times just cuz I don't really care for that episode.
Nothing about it makes itself stand out. Just felt like someone's first attempt at making a Doom 3 episode mod.

[heady edge]

I wonder if it could be broken down to which missions occur during (or between) which other missions. 🤔

I'm currently still back in episode 4 of Classic DOOM anyway, so I've got time til' I get around to DOOM 3 things, but I'm considering when I get there maybe going back and forth between DOOM 3 and Lost Missions until both are done and then doing RoE.

[unkempt crescent]

That's what I thought of doing. Only problem is knowing when that dlc plays out.

[heady edge]

Yeah... I never actually played Lost Mission, so I'm incredibly out of my element at the moment, but I'd be surprised if there isn't some documentation and/or lengthy Youtube video out there that attempts to piece together as many specifics as possible. If I could do a few DOOM 3 missions and then switch it up to Lost Mission for a few, and back and forth like that, I think it might keep things more interesting considering how long DOOM 3 is anyway.

[quasi silo]

None of that exists sadly

[heady edge]

That won't stop me from searching when the time comes

It'll be a while. I don't get much time for gaming.

[unkempt crescent]

From my knowledge, your best bet is to get an idea of that time frame is watching Lechumqc's doom 3 lore video.

[heady edge]

Ayyy, thanks for the tip!

[whole venture]

hey is there a widescreen or an overall enhancement mod for ROE? since there's no bfg version that has it

[misty abyss]

BFG edition has widescreen support but there no RoE enhancement mods as far as I'm aware

[whole venture]

if I only know the names of them doe

[misty abyss]

You can also use console commands to achieve different screen resolutions in original version

[whole venture]

word? what's the command?

[heady edge]

r_customheight and r_customwidth

[misty abyss]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=647910391

[heady edge]

Set them to your desired resolution

[misty abyss]

this basically

iirc you can add them to one of the configs so change will stay unless you change settings again

[quasi silo]

This is very handy for those who need it, very nice futureproofing from id

[whole venture]

nice
anything else I have to change graphically through the config file? recommendations?

[quasi silo]

Also I'd like to say that BFG Edition has RoE included. Idk if that's what you meant, this is worded a little strange
Make sure your config file has the graphics set to ultra quality, the Steam version doesn't allow you to do that in-game due to a bug. Same with Quake 4

[whole venture]

well for me it's a bundle of the first 3 base games... also bfg edition

[quasi silo]

It has DOOM 3, DOOM 3: Resurrection of Evil, and The Lost Mission. On Steam, Xbox 360, and PS3, it also has DOOM and DOOM II + NRFTL

[whole venture]

Strange

I don’t see ROE anywhere on the bfg version

[quasi silo]

On the DOOM 3 screen, when you select new game, a list of campaigns should open up. It's there

[whole venture]

Oh there?

I was scared to get rid of my save file if I choose a new game

Oh my god I’m so stupid… both lost missions and ROE are there

[quasi silo]

Happens

[whole venture]

Oh, and is there a quick switch mod? Like in 2016 and eternal?

Might sound dumb but eh

[quasi silo]

You mean very fast swapping weapons? No

[whole venture]

Lost missions is lit. God damn

[paper quiver]

"Amazing things will happen here soon...You just wait..."

[unkempt crescent]

The devil is real, I've built his cage.

[whole venture]

You sell cages?

[paper quiver]

I'm still not completely through the main campaign. I'm at the Monorail level. One of the enemies that actually scared me (so far) was the spiders & the weird human like hissing sound they make.

Doom 3 is def an all-time fav

[unkempt crescent]

It's my third favorite doom

[whole venture]

You mean the babys?

I was traumatized

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, make cages for hell. 100% refund guarantee when the cage breaks.

[paper quiver]

Oh DUDE

I completely forgot about the flying baby things

[whole venture]

I hate seeing babies in a horror game

Or almost a horror game

[unkempt crescent]

Pistol seems to sort them out. Same with the spiders.

[unkempt crescent]

It is a horror game. More so Action Horror

[whole venture]

Barrel machine gun.

Kill them with what they deserve

Actually fuck it

a bfg will suffice

[unkempt crescent]

Works too, but I find it a bit overkill. When compared to using it on archviles and RoE's exclusive demon

[whole venture]

I actually use a mix of a shotgun and plasma gun for that

At lost missions I straight up shot him twice with a double barreled shotgun

[unkempt crescent]

RoE's exclusive demon combat shotgun or SSG works well on. Especially with the slow-mo from the heart of evil.
But typically I'd use berserk that's given to you from heart of evil later into the campaign.

Really only use the SSG on hellknights. Archviles and Mancubus I never try getting up close, since they can push you back.

[unkempt crescent]

Could you fucking not go in every chat section of Doomcord and ask that question?
It'll be some months down the line, TDA just came out not too long ago. Likely see the first dlc reveal during Quakecon.

[heady edge]

April 4th, 2005.

[whole venture]

Oh I troll the shit out of hellknight and stay close, to a point he starts spamming punches in the air.

[unkempt crescent]

That's the way

[unkempt crescent]

I honestly kinda want to record a clip of myself, using combat shotgun on nightmare against a hell knight.
Take that clip and post it in a reddit thread of people hating on Doom 3 combat shotgun

[lost horizon]

shoutout to the ppl who play and enjoy doom 3, it's great

[low marsh]

I'm on the Mars City Revisited map, and I'm trying to pick up the blue ACO key, but it is stuck under the counter, how do I get it? I'm using the latest dhewm with sikkmod and Absolute HD

[abstract fable]

I'm not the biggest D3 fan but I did like Resurrection of Evil a lot.

Much faster more challenging encounters and new demons and Artifact is really fun

[heady edge]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-such-a-great-day-geoff-hamill-south-park-s14e8-poor-and-stupid-gif-22865994

[cursive gulch]

The doom 3 pinky really doesn't feel like it should die in 2 to 3 shotgun blasts

I know it always took that many shells but the doom 3 version is so big and gets such a good intro that it's almost comical how fast it goes down

[heady edge]

I think making them faster and able to lunge to attack was a good compromise for balancing. They still go down, and you still get to panic in a hallway, but if you're surrounded by'em, you still can make it if you're on the ball.

[unkempt crescent]

I think the pinky being that weak makes sense since it is the most aggressive demon.
I believe it's just that the pinky wasn't utilized well

[cursive gulch]

You get a super shotgun

And a gravity gun

Lost levels is just more doom 3 though

Are you playing the BFG edition?

The one with the flashlight mounted on your shoulder

You should try the original version then

The flashlight is its own separate weapon

The entirety of this games atmosphere and horror comes from not being able to see and shoot at the same time

They made the whole game brighter and doubled all ammo pickups

Also for some reason they cut half of the expansion for no reason

Resurrection of evil cuts like an entire mission for seemingly no reason at all

It's not on consoles but as the game came out in 2004 it should run on any modern computer

If you're not liking the game you probably should start over

No point in spending 9 more hours on a game you don't like

[scenic stratus]

or just play another game

[honest goblet]

Is doom 3 black sheep in series?

[scenic stratus]

No

[honest goblet]

People say it's is

[azure shoal]

No that goes to tda now lol, however much I love it

D3 is classic doom but just the horror aspect of classic doom that wasn't realized fully in the 90's

[honest goblet]

I hadn't beat doom 1 yet

[cursive gulch]

How can it be the black sheep when every game in the series is completely different

[honest goblet]

Idk that what people say

[pearl sand]

Who has a free code for DOOM 3 BFG

[unkempt crescent]

Gravity gun is honestly good.
Just underutilized from what I usually see.

[cursive gulch]

Why would anyone have a free code for doom 3

[unkempt crescent]

Doesn't help that I also forget about it occasionally

[cursive gulch]

That doesn't make sense

I think I used it once

I was a child last time I played ressurection of evil though

I didn't even know you could recharge the artifact back then

I played the entire game without using it because I never realized corpses refuel it

[unkempt crescent]

That's how I was the first time.
RoE's new additions to our arsenal possibly doesn't click with the player until half way through.
I mean, sure we got that death trap that tries to teach the player about Heart of Evil's slow mo, but that's only once or twice in the whole dlc.
In comparison to TDA and Eternal sending home the message of our arsenal

[supple gull]

When I first played, I didn't even know that the last upgrade gave you berserk.

[silver spruce]

Anyway to lower doom 3s volume

Like why in gods name does it not have built in volume sliders lmao

[misty abyss]

Black sheep of the series was the friends we made along the way

[scenic stratus]

Yeah, only games that I'd consider sufficiently alike are DOOM 1, 2 and Final DOOM, and Final DOOM is already stretching it.

Doom 64 has an art style overhaul, Doom 3 is its own thing, and I'm not even gonna get started on the modern trilogy, every game is distinct af

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, there's no real push for the player to acknowledge it.
They just give it to you, after the third boss.
Would've liked if a specific demon, required you to use berserk to kill them.

[sour wagon]

Is doom 3 bfg better than the original?

[scenic stratus]

No

[cursive gulch]

No

Everyone wanted the changes it made but when it came out they realized it was better without them

Well except for the increased ammo and cut sections of ressurection of evil, nobody wanted those

[woven flower]

Honestly, the complaints about being overly dark are exaggerated. The chaingun and plasma gun light up dark areas just as good as a flashlight.

[cursive gulch]

I think the BFG edition actually breaks the chaingun flash

It no longer lights up surroundings

[unkempt crescent]

Cut sections of RoE?

[unkempt crescent]

Tbf, I don't use chaingun much. But I believe I noticed it didn't illuminate much of anything

[woven flower]

Yeh BFG didn't fix anything
No additional light sources, just the flashlight replacing weapon lights.
Not to mention that armor is still glitched to not stop any damage.

[unkempt crescent]

The armor is why I always advise against new players to play on Ultra Violence

Ultra Violence isn't balanced. It's a miserable experience cuz armor is shit in this game

[ornate heath]

Except for widescreen support :)

…which you can get anyway by downloading a source port of doom 3 (:

And also I like the sound of the shotgun more in the BFG edition

[final drum]

So i downloaded the overthinked DOOM 3 mod, do I just drag and drop the content of the "overthinked" folder into the "base" folder in the game files?

[scenic stratus]

I think BFG edition is a bit better than DOOM 3 overall

BUT

Did they really have to make cutscenes unskippable lol, cutscenes are cool but on repeat playthroughs it gets annoying if they are unskippable

[scenic stratus]

wild opinion ngl

[woven flower]

After beating Doom3 twenty times already, I am again considering playing it through again

[cursive gulch]

Everything is brighter and the flashlight is already illuminating everything so nobody notices

[supple gull]

The toxic part was nerfed

[simple wasp]

I, too, have died many times from falling off the platforms while fighting Sabaoth

[woven flower]

What's the best hd texture mod? I see redux and d3hdp

[proud crest]

D3Hdp is the one I use. It’s very nice, making all the models and everything look amazing

[sage eagle]

Same

[supple gull]

I just played through it two weeks ago

[zinc temple]

I plan to play through this game after I beat 64 I'm almost done with it.

It's a pain though

[viral pebble]

Does anyone have a good soundpack for Doom 3 that has all the alpha 2002 sounds for the weapons, monsters, and player sounds in the correct file format- OGG?
The trent reznor soundpack thats been on the internet for so long has some of its sound files in the wrong format so only some of the sounds work for me

[visual lava]

How long does it take to play through doom three?

[supple gull]

NGL they should've added an additional area to the comm building in MCU.

[unkempt crescent]

Usually takes me 8 or 9 hours.

[obsidian igloo]

How much money ya'll wanna bet thst this guy replying to me has never played Doom 3 or finished it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/698526972346761287/1386721061214617612/image0.jpg?ex=685abc21&is=68596aa1&hm=0202ad754fbef02803b0487dbf307b8ebe1fc1344969fcc815f5b41d5ad188c2&

[misty abyss]

literally average situation these days

[obsidian igloo]

the video I was watching that this comment is from was a video of "Can you beat every Doom deathless, but if you die you reset back to doom 1" and the guy skipped Doom 3 and only Doom 3, and so I was replying to someone mentioning this, I just don't get why so many people act like Doom 3 doesn't exist when it is a great game

[misty abyss]

You explained it yourself, post-2016 many ignore it or bash it without actually playing it themselves

[winter solar]

doom 3 ain't even survival horror

[simple wasp]

You say that despite the fact that the one lift that goes to Site 3 first pits you against a Hellknight and an Arch-Vile at the same time in a small room

[obsidian igloo]

when i was playing that on nightmare it was easily the hardest but most fun part of my run by far, it really felt that it warranted all my attention and skill to deal with that encounter

[obsidian igloo]

lol it's so easy to find the people who never played Doom 3 but act like they did

I have had so many encounters with people who "hate" Doom 3, where they talk like some Greek Philosopher saying "in my honest opinion Doom 3 just changed the formula too much and isn't Doom" BUT when you ask them If they EVEN played it they will 99% of the time say "no I have only touched Doom eternal"

[winter solar]

true

doom 3 will probably be the most unique title in the whole franchise

[obsidian igloo]

agreed

[winter solar]

taking off doom rpg and its sequel

which have doom 3 elements

[obsidian igloo]

I think they should take 2 birds with one stone, and they should make a horror coop focused Doom similar to like left 4 dead or some shit where you play as regular soldiers on phobos or mars, I think that would be sick, and would bring coop, and horror back to Doom

[winter solar]

that'd be cool ngl

if only there was a l4d mod for that

[obsidian igloo]

True

[winter solar]

it's rare to find doom 3 maps ported to source

even on gmod, it's really hard to find doom 3 themed maps

but atleast the gameplay mods are really well done

[obsidian igloo]

ye

[obsidian igloo]

I dunno why they stopped doing coop for Doom, some of my favorite memories of Doom is playing Multiplayer with my uncle and clearing through the classics

[winter solar]

it's sad doom 3 coop is absolutely dead

[obsidian igloo]

true, It would be really fun to do with friends

[winter solar]

there's like 4 people in the whole wide world that play doom 3 coop to this day

[obsidian igloo]

I know people as of recent have started glazing the modern Doom multiplayers, but tbh I've always felt its just them trying to catch some Quake players attention, it's nice to have as an option, but an authentic Doom multiplayer experience is dearly missed by at least me

[winter solar]

doom 3 has potential, even to this day, i'd love to see a remake or a sequel to it

[obsidian igloo]

the new ID engine remaking Doom 3 would be a dream come true

[winter solar]

a doom 3 remake would be awesome

considering how good the graphics were

ik there are mods

[obsidian igloo]

the lighting is still enchanting to this day

[winter solar]

doom 3 2 where are you?

[obsidian igloo]

far far away in a distant galaxy

[winter solar]

carmack will have to be there though

tantrum-less this time

jk xd

[obsidian igloo]

ik this is unrelated, but isn't it strange how they didn't do a hub area for TDA, I thought with the whole Doom guy in the Maker Ship we would have had a hub

its not very important, but i feel like its a missed opportunity

[winter solar]

i still need to play doom 3 vr

doom 3 is probably the only doom game that'd be good with vr

[obsidian igloo]

do the fanmade one, it is so much better than the official one

how come a game from 2004 works better in vr than actual vr games

[winter solar]

fighting the hell knights in vr, that'd be terrifying

they're fucking HUGE in that game

[obsidian igloo]

those running guys who throw their tentacle limbs out are tense

[winter solar]

that'd be easy exercise

[obsidian igloo]

lol getting my squats in through Doom 3

[winter solar]

the vents would be cool too

[obsidian igloo]

ye

[winter solar]

maybe i'm a doom 3 just because it's super close to hl1

i'm a vent enthusiast (jk i'm not, especially in hl1 where they're super slow)

[final drum]

it is if you run the Overthinked DOOM^3 mod.
Much more limited ammo (less pickups, lower max ammo, reloading discards unspent ammo still in the clip) and the enemies have been tweaked so that every single one of them is dangerous and can fuck you up.

Also blood splatter and corpses that stay (demons take notably longer to turn to ash and human bodies are permanent) gives the whole thing a lot more gravity, because it really helps the immersion when the health station in the security booth that I'm using to heal the damage that shotgunner inflicted on me is covered in blood splatter from said shotgunner since I blasted his head.

and also healing is over time instead of instant

[winter solar]

hmmmm interesting

[final drum]

there's also an optional patch that makes revenant missiles a 1 hit kill

I reccommend the "useful shotgun and soul cube fix" patch

also you might want to go into the mod's sounds folder and put your own weapon fire sounds in, because the ones the mod use will blow out your eardrums if you don't like loud noise

but the shotgun feels so good compared to the vanilla one (and you get the SSG too)

and can be set to go full auto

[scenic stratus]

it truly is an overthinked doom 3

[obsidian igloo]

Its a hard life being a Doom 3 fan, can't say nothing without some guy saying stupid crap like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/698526972346761287/1386867385537138768/Screenshot_20250623_203525_YouTube.jpg?ex=685b4467&is=6859f2e7&hm=d92771473bbd9c0a1053368efbd61c157196cd7377f23e7c27f9a17117b0514e&

[winter solar]

what the fuck?

i wasn't even alive before 2010 but atleast ik doom 3 was well recieved

[obsidian igloo]

People seem to hate the fact that I said that the Doom 3 hate is a recent trend in the past decade

[obsidian igloo]

Worst part is by his logic i can just find some guy in a forum who says Doom eternal sucks, and by his logic majority think it sucks lol

[winter solar]

also, unrelated, the shotgun is terribly good, it's good because you can 1 shot maggots and the cherub (fuck the cherub, on console they're a pain to kill) but terrible because of how far the bullets go from the center of your screen

the whole shotgun debate acn be easily solved

it's a good weapon for low tier enemies

[obsidian igloo]

It works perfectly for what it is designed to do, if it had long range, then the gameplay would be hampered

[winter solar]

since most of them rush up to you

the imp, you can 1 shot the first imp

like insta-kill them

[obsidian igloo]

Ye

[winter solar]

also doom 3 might be the only game that isn't half-life to actually have a good grenade

contact explosion? that's awesome

just one problem is if you miss that shit will prob jump back at you and kill you

@obsidian igloo you ever saw that DOOM 3 doom 2 mod?

[obsidian igloo]

Ye, its pretty sick

[winter solar]

i beg to disagree

[scenic stratus]

best selling doom game before midternal came out

[winter solar]

i think it's a really bad mod, it adds unecessary playable characters to it, its file size is huge, even the lite version is big, the music is royality free music, the intermission map is a bunch of pngs on top of eachother

i could go on and on, but i best don't do it ofc

[winter solar]

midternal fits well

[obsidian igloo]

I thought you were talking about the Doom 3 mod that puts Doom 2 into it

[winter solar]

Oh no, I'm talking about another one

But that TC mod is cool though

[hazy snow]

AHHHHH

[winter solar]

CANADA IS HERE WHAT THE HELL!?

[split igloo]

Question is doom guy in this game actually doom guy or a different guy im confused

[dense crest]

10 minutes ago

[left oxide]

how to kill hell guards quick doom 2016

dont say shoot it until its dead cause i will find you

[quasi silo]

This is the DOOM 3 channel

Actually you posted that in nearly every single channel

[final drum]

the issue with the DOOM 3 shotgun is that it came after the buckshot perfection that was the DOOM 2 super shotgun, and people were understandibly a bit put of by the fact that the D3 shotgun can't hit anything beyond 5 inches from your face

plus there were several other really good shotguns in doom clones like the 4 barrel rotating shotty in Shadow Warrior and the gunslinger shotty in Blood that sends enemy ragdolls flying on a killshot

[final drum]

the Overthinked mod makes using those grenades feel real good because you get to chuck them at Z-sec guys in cover and then walk up to see blood and guts splattered all over the place

also the plasma rifle has this cool feature where it's shots act like light sources, making the enemies in the dark areas become bathed in blue light as you obliterate them with hot plasma

[winter solar]

you really like that mod don't you xd
i need to give it a try some day

og doom 3?

[quasi silo]

Quake I and II have great grenades too

[winter solar]

Never played them ngl, i fr need to play quake

a friend of mine was streaming it because he got recommended, he was raging at the grenades because he kept missing them

it was funny af

[final drum]

yea it doesn't work with the BFG edition

[winter solar]

Ok

[final drum]

but you van get vanilla doom 3, RoE and BFGE in one package on steam

for peanuts

[winter solar]

ik

[final drum]

quake 1's grenade bounce sound is one of the best sound effects in the history of gaming

Ion Fury even used a slight variant of it for it's grenades

@winter solar Just remember to check the mod's sounds folder and replace the sounds you don't like.
I personally don't like loud gunfire so I swapped them out for much more subdued SFX (which helps with hearing enemy sound ques too)

[winter solar]

swap the og doom 3 sounds?

ooh i don't think i'd like to do that, i love d3's sound design

[final drum]

no I mean the mod uses custom sounds

you can replace them with the OG sounds

the shotgun in particular is LOUD

[winter solar]

oh ok

[tough fjord]

help my save file for doom eternal isnt loading even tho its here int he files
GAME-AUTOSAVE0

[winter solar]

Sir this is doom 3

[cursive gulch]

Its scary like doom 3

[winter solar]

Makes sense. Touché

[formal rain]

Yo

[winter solar]

sup

[formal rain]

Wut do we think of the doom 3 shotgun?

[winter solar]

i think it's good

Could be better ngl

Obviously

But works, it's not useless

[trail flax]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/runners-doom-3
i have a question how does anyone get this mod going ive follwed the instructions with trying to get this run with doom 3 bfg and still nothing and even with og

[Put "Runners2" folder to your "DOOM3 BFG Edition" main directory.
There should be a "Runners2" directory in your main directory as "..\Steam\steamapps\common\DOOM 3 BFG Edition\Runners2".
Run "Doom3BFG.exe" with following parameter :
+set fs_resourceLoadPriority 0 +set fs_game Runners2 ]

i feel like im not understanding something so stupid even after putting this in

ive tried through steam launch options creating a shortcut and setting it as the target

even in console in game

like what am i not getting 🤣 ☠️

[winter solar]

is that a hell knight sprinting like a scooby doo character?

ZOINKS IMP! I SAW A VERY SCARY DUDE!

[trail flax]

yes lol

if anyone can figure out how to get that mod running please let me know how you did it though cause like i really wanna play it lol

[lost horizon]

kinda want an original xbox for doom 3 and RoE

peak experience

[rocky mango]

I have the limited collectors edition

[woven flower]

Yeah I hope nightdive remasters the Xbox doom 3

[winter solar]

fuck it, i hope they make doom 3 definitive edition and just mix the best from og doom 3 with BFG edition

if that's ever made i'd be so happy

would literally end the versions war

[scenic stratus]

its just going to be another bfg edition port

[rocky mango]

Bfg edition was only a McDonald's version of doom 3 and the only physical way to buy the classic doom games on console

[winter solar]

exactly

no it's not a package of bfg with og

it's a mixture of both, it's the best elements of each port in just 1 game

like the flashlight can be changed in the settings and stuff

it's nothing too crazy, ik there are mods that do that, but it's something more for consoles than pc

because on consoles there's only the bfg edition, and it's not the best version

it has good qualities but again, it takes some important elements

[rocky mango]

There was the limited collectors edition but it was only for xbox, there's no lost mission or roe, and the ultimate doom and doom II has the worst extra levels

[winter solar]

in bfg pc, there was supposed to have a secret exit on the underhalls, inside the imp closet when you get the red key. well that button is broken and since it's not linked to the secret level, it instead sends you BACK to underhalls, so that means you can play underhalls infinitely FOR ETERNITY

Idk if that happens on the collectors edition

[rocky mango]

The extra levels for the collectors edition I have has the sewers and betrayal, the sewers is dull and boring and same goes for betrayal. I heard they were made by nerve softwares employees in the 90s

[winter solar]

nerve software? interesting

glad to know they improved overtime with the release of NRFTL

[rocky mango]

The weird thing is, after you complete the sewers, you go back to the hanger, so you can play the same 2 levels over and over

[winter solar]

lol, so doom 3 ports love infinite loops

that's goofy

[rocky mango]

The lost mission had just random void windows and unfinished platforms

Plus in bfg edition, some of the weapons were downgraded

[winter solar]

ik, the chaigun for example is slower

[rocky mango]

And doesn't light up as much

[winter solar]

that one makes sense

since the game is brighter

[rocky mango]

They need to make it darker again

[winter solar]

doom 3 needs a re-release i'm telling you

[rocky mango]

And more fans

[winter solar]

WITH cut stuff if they can port it ofc

stealth in doom 3 would be terrifying, imagine hiding from the hell knights, that'd be awesome, especially in vr

the E3 presentation did show a bit of stealth, guess what, it was cut

it also showed a pinky jumpscare where it'd tear a wall and poke it's head out

and also, where's our new super turkey puncher game??

[rocky mango]

I think the thought of doom being more horror focused is what it's keeping it away from fans. I honestly think it's a good way to present the series, it'd be more like in a UAC employee's POV

[winter solar]

i think doom is supposed to be full blown horror with action

like dude, it's a DEMON invasion

alienoids eating people's faces, getting posessed and turning into mindless fodders

that's fucking terrifying

[rocky mango]

And a game in an employee of the UAC's POV would be perfect

[winter solar]

i don't want to be that guy, but doom 3 is the only doom game that shows TRUE DOOM, doom in the word itself, doom 3 is the definition of destruction and chaos happening all around you

[winter solar]

like outlast?

[rocky mango]

Maybe, never heard of that game

[winter solar]

whatt???

outlast is a classic

anyways i'll explain it

[rocky mango]

No need

My memory is probably just acting up again

[winter solar]

in outlast you try to survive a bunch of crazy people inside a mental hospital that's secretly conducting secret experiments

you have a camera to record things you see and stuff

you're never given a weapon, and that's why it's scary, because all you can do to avoid the crazy mfs is to hide and HOPE you get to the objective without being spotted

[rocky mango]

That sounds like something my brother would play

[winter solar]

it's a great horror game, terribly recommend, srsly

i think doom 3 would fit too

in outlast there's this big zombie-like guy that goes around the whole hospital trying to hunt you down, that could be replaced by an hell knight for example

[rocky mango]

That would be an interesting concept, but I think it would be good as a spin off

[winter solar]

yeah, i think it'd turn a lot of people off if it came with a re-released doom 3

it wouldn't turn me off though, more doom 3 is more doom 3

i can never get sick of doom 3

[rocky mango]

Honestly, I haven't played it in 2 years but I need to replay it

[winter solar]

when doom 3 remake!?

also, i played that doom 3 mod, the hyped one... it's meh, i think it insists upon itself

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-itinsistsuponitself-gif-26249772

[rocky mango]

Someone's making it in unreal engine

[winter solar]

what.

i said "eehhhhhhhhh" bro warned me

[rocky mango]

And we just having a conversation

[winter solar]

i once got timed out because i tried to post 5 pics of my doom mod. Go figure. it appears the max is 4. Good to know

[rocky mango]

I got kicked from the welcome channel in the zdoom server cuz I was giving someone some advice for they're project

[winter solar]

lol, that's fucked up

[rocky mango]

That and another problem is why I barely speak in this server, I'm afraid of being either too annoying or accidentally breaking the rules

[winter solar]

same, my autistic ass cannot shut the flap up my ass so i can get yappy very easily

especially when i want to fact check some poor bastard

i casually spit out a bible page

[rocky mango]

Exactly, I'm afraid of putting a wall of text cuz it might be annoying

[winter solar]

especially when there's a rule that doesn't allow for us to discuss about moderation on general chat. I'll cut my message here before i get thrown to the naughty list

[rocky mango]

Well anyways, I'll probably see you in a month

[winter solar]

y?

[rocky mango]

Just in case I get in trouble for accidentally doing something, imma be inactive in the server for a month. You're welcome to dm me if you want

[winter solar]

1 month!?

[rocky mango]

Yeah

[winter solar]

bro's gonna hibernate

[rocky mango]

Been doing it for 2 servers, this one and another that I left

[winter solar]

damn bro you must yap as much as me

also that roblox kid going rogue randomly was funny af, bro started telling EVERYBODY to stfu, it was so silly

[rocky mango]

When you mostly collect memes and get praised sometimes for it, life gets hard

[rocky mango]

I remember, bro got kicked or left XD

[winter solar]

he probably left, but it was so stupid still. did he watch the new midnight vid?

[rocky mango]

No, I think he got mad at a situation that happened earlier

[winter solar]

oh man i can't upload images

smart mods

[winter solar]

what happened?

[rocky mango]

I'll tell in dm's

[winter solar]

better

[jolly peak]

Underrated

Overhated,very good story line

[sacred forge]

For sure Doom 3 has some of the best moments of "impending doom". Things are ominous all round

[winter solar]

CARMACK... WHERE'S MY DOOM 3 2 CARMACK!!!

https://tenor.com/view/sea-salt-cecil-invincible-gif-4307342410967516949

[wintry galleon]

What's this Doom 3 2

[rocky mango]

We want a sequel to doom 3

[wintry galleon]

Ah

Ty

[rocky mango]

Np

[torpid marsh]

Doom 3 2

[winter solar]

Doom 3 3

[heady edge]

Damn a whole DOOM 3 trilogy? Sign me up

[wintry galleon]

BFG edition is a remake

[wintry galleon]

Rly?

Woops

Guess i'll go read the entire codex of eternal

[rough current]

which mod is that?

[winter solar]

Phobos

[azure shoal]

Guys what is the code for the monorail airlock

Or at least tell me a hint on how to find it

[rocky mango]

I haven't played in so long I forgot it, I'll look it up

[rocky mango]

824

Or the 4 is 6

[azure shoal]

Alr I'll try it

It worked!

Why is it 826 tho

Where was I supposed to look

[rocky mango]

Idk

[rocky mango]

I think it's on a pda somewhere

[azure shoal]

I'm gonna look for it, thank you tho

[rocky mango]

Np

[azure shoal]

Found it

So I guess pdas are useful

Good to know

[rough current]

why it's meh?

[winter solar]

Didn't feel right to me

Idk, it's hard to explain

[rough current]

uh, ok

we're always trying to analyze critiques of the mod

[trail flax]

So anyone know how to runners doom 3 working with bfg

I want chaos

[misty abyss]

don't you just drop files into directory

[trail flax]

That’s what I thought right

[misty abyss]

I remember installing it on steam deck 2 years ago

[trail flax]

And you like type a command to get it to launch

But yet it will just crash

Like it is so confusing lmao

And I mean I got everything the description says to get

So like I’m gonna nuke the mod

Maybe I just need to read the description for like a hour till I seee something off

[slate void]

I finally got an official Xbox 360 hard drive that has cross compatibility so I can actually play the doom 3 collectors edition

[rocky mango]

Do you have internet for the xbox?

[slate void]

Yes

[rocky mango]

Alr then you're good to go

[azure shoal]

How do I pass the cryo storage area

Where I load and unload bins

Is that how I find the inducer or whatever it's called

[rocky mango]

Is it the claw puzzle part?

[azure shoal]

Yes

[rocky mango]

Oh, you have to go to the control room and clear the room of all the boxes using the claw

[azure shoal]

What room?

It keeps telling me to load it back

Ohhh no I'm way ahead

Lemme take a pic

#screenshots message

[rocky mango]

OH THAT ONE

Yeah I was thinking of another one

[azure shoal]

Ye what abt it

[azure shoal]

I already did that one

It's very early on

[rocky mango]

If I remember correctly, there should be a vent to go through, and there's a bfg near there I think

[azure shoal]

Ehhhhh I just want to get the inducer that npc was talking abt

Lemme take a pic

#screenshots message

What must I do for this
@rocky mango

[rocky mango]

I think you need to take the intel and it should give you a code for something, idk my memory sucks

[azure shoal]

He keeps telling me to find an inducer

I wanna shoot him

[rocky mango]

Then do it

[azure shoal]

Hmmm

Now what

Im gonna load back just to make sure I didn't soft lock myself

[rocky mango]

Killing humans shouldn't softlock you, but I'd say just look everywhere

[azure shoal]

Does that include pda's?

Oh brother

[rocky mango]

I don't think so

[azure shoal]

Still, I don't know what I'm doing

I can't even view my objectives

[rocky mango]

It should be in your pda

[azure shoal]

It says go to sector security and terminate the ops lock down

But like I showed in screenshots, idk what to do there

[rocky mango]

Well I'd say look up a playthrough or something. I'm sorry I can't help more, my memory is very bad

[azure shoal]

I cam't at the moment, so I'm at the mercy of the game

[rocky mango]

Then try any room that demons get summoned in

[azure shoal]

I did... I've ran out of ideas

[rocky mango]

Send a screenshot of where you are, I might have an idea

[azure shoal]

#screenshots message

This is my main objective

[rocky mango]

Oh that one, did you take the intel disc?

[azure shoal]

Disc??

Is it in my pda, hold on

Wait

I have to listen to audio logs????

Pls nooo

[rocky mango]

Ik it's long, or you can just look up codes and stuff, that's how I got through the game 2 years ago

[azure shoal]

Alr I'll just do smt else in the meantime before I can look it up

[rocky mango]

Yeah, sorry I couldn't do more help, I had the burden of playing the bfg edition

[azure shoal]

It's alr I at least know pda's are useful

Used them to unlock the storage locks

Otherwise I would've thought they were written on the wall or smt

[rocky mango]

Oh also, tip for the sarge boss: shoot him where the bfg is on his shoulder, I know you're not at that point yet but it does alot more damage

[fathom urchin]

any good mods for Doom 3? I feel like it's the forgotten bastard child for mods.

[trail flax]

ive been playing one right now that adds ut 2004 dodging and more enemies and more weapons

as well adds in bullet time

[quasi silo]

I hear Phobos get praised a lot. It's even featured as a launch mod for GOG's new modding service. I haven't played it myself though, but I'd say it's worth a try

[trail flax]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/fragging-free what im playin

id say this is pretty good for what he tried to do with the doom 3 engine

[quasi silo]

HUD gives me Quake III vibes, probably intentional

[trail flax]

you can take control of monsters with one of the weapons you eventually get as well

[quasi silo]

The DOOM 3 engine is significantly more sophisticated than DOOM 3 lets it off to be. ET:QW gives it driveable vehicles, while Wolf2 makes a game that feels like a modern AAA title using it. Story-focused cutscenes, widescreen, controller support, it's just a marvelous engine when you push it to be one

[rose field]

the world if id engines had shitloads of publically available documentation

[marsh grove]

Regarding DOOM3.... I haven't found anything similar on the internet so I made a map on my own. What do you think, could this map be appropriate and accurate for the events and locations of DOOM3 + D3 The Lost Mission + D3 Resurrection of Evil? Please let me know your thoughts and doubts if have any. Thanks. #screenshots message

[sly jasper]

am i the only one hoping for a doom 3 remaster/remake from nightdive studios

since they said smth about their next big thing being announced at quakecon

maybe its smth quake, maybe hexen or heretic which i would also be so down for, but i would love to see a doom 3 remaster/remake

[quasi silo]

I'd love a 2004-BFG hybrid remaster. Give us the ability to toggle different settings between the two versions. Add in the Xbox version exclusive content too

[marsh grove]

Maybe in the meantime a remaster like campaig could be built by using snapmap? Im on that server as well and people are talking about D3 related things there too

[trail flax]

You could for sure

[misty abyss]

Ayo , Neurological made soundtrack

also Earth-Quake mod with new music for Quake 4

[trail flax]

It’s actually a fun mod simple alt fires on guns ut dodging with jump air dodging bullet time

Taking control of monsters and alil extra content in the mix

[misty abyss]

interesting, gonna check it out later i guess

[trail flax]

Harder difficulties essentially just less health in pickups and enemies do more damage and possibly more enemies in the mix but idk

Has quake monsters in the mix

Idk why but I dig it 😂

And more weapons

I also found out why runners doom 3 isn’t working but it’s gonna have to require me possibly looking at previous versions to understand the change he made

Idk if it’s just a line of text needing edited or what but it’s not reading one of the lines correctly in a file

[woven flower]

Doom 3

[fathom urchin]

Hexen+Heretic would be dope.

[rocky mango]

They need nightdive to do it

[quasi silo]

I'd trust Nerve with it, except for the fact they're 🪦

[woven flower]

Castle is making VR chatrooms
Gone the way of Carmack

[trail flax]

I’m always iffy about nightdive touching ids games they always do some weird adjustment that makes the game just to off to play

Online is awful as well in the quake and doom releases from them as well

[quasi silo]

Such as what? Never had this issue

[trail flax]

And quake nightmare being only 50 health is a sin

[trail flax]

Idk it’s hard to explain I’m not exactly a nerd in internet connection server stuff

[quasi silo]

I know the online is weird, I thought you also had another gripe with it

[trail flax]

But my friends had better time in just a source port rather then nightdives releases when it came to online play

The ports they do are pretty ideal for console I feel

And every update to doom1+2 has been recently deleting my gz doom probably cause I’m renaming the launcher lol

But still they need to stop 😂

[misty abyss]

Never experienced that, like ever

also Quake remasters are excellent

[trail flax]

The quake 2 one was better I always negative point quake 1 for a few issues it did that were sins but mainly nightmare 50 hp only 🤣

I’ve played nightmare so long as standard 100 health so I could not accept ☠️

[dusk blaze]

Its weird, I played quake on nightmare before the remaster and after, and it felt a lot easier after

The slower enemies make up for having max 50 hp, that and the copious amounts of armour

[trail flax]

It’s still just to weird

[hot knot]

Hello

Is doom 3, doom 3 bfg edition, and resurrection of evil good?

[scenic stratus]

yes

well except bfg edition

that one is a mediocre port

[low basin]

Im gonna try the switch port since its on sale rn

[dusk blaze]

Doom 3 is very flawed, Resurrection of Evil is quite good, fixes a lot of Doom 3's problems, BFG I've never played, but the Lost Mission was good too

I recommend a source port, I think I used Dhewm3

[jolly cape]

DOOM 3 wasn't the DOOM everyone expected, not flawed but different, probably should have been DOOM with a sub title indicating it was a reboot

[dusk blaze]

No, I'd say it is very flawed

And I'm not speaking from nostalgia for the originals. I don't like most of the jumpscares (the imps behind the doors can rot in hell), or the terrible shotgun which you still need to use for most of the game

I'd still call it an okay game, but not much more

[jolly cape]

to me DOOM 3 and F.E.A.R. sit in a special horror FPS space that not any other games have touched since. DOOM 3 had the best hell in the whole series, many monster designs pushing towards a realism that i prefer over the way the current ones look

[dusk blaze]

I like the original doom ones because, while they are cartoony, they are most suited to gameplay

You can tell them all apart instantly, which doesnt leave you second guessing what you should focus on first. Doom 3 is a bit too dark and realistic for that to be achieved there

[scenic stratus]

og doom wasnt meant to be cartoony

[dusk blaze]

Not really, no, but its a lot brighter and more colourful than its sequels/games that came after, which is what U meant

[low basin]

Sure just feels that way tho lol

[scenic stratus]

Proof???