doom-3

[quartz isle]

I suggest you just get the gamepass. You get every single doom game in it

Excpet doom 2016 for some reason

[frail pawn]

Me no has game pass for me can’t afford 12 bucks a month (I’m broke)

[quartz isle]

You wanna buy the game for 70 bucks rather then spent 12 for one single month?

I assume you are gonna finish the game in a month so thats more appropriate no?

[frail pawn]

FINAL DOOM IS 70 BUCKS

[marble spade]

unity ports on steam i think

[frail pawn]

TF

[quartz isle]

ofc it is

You are talking about dark ages tho right?

That is 70 bucks

[marble spade]

no final doom mf

[simple jay]

is dark ages the last doom?

[marble spade]

no FINAL DOOM FROM 1996

[minor edge]

Doom 1 -> SIGIL -> Doom 2 -> NRFTL -> Final Doom -> Legacy of Rust -> Doom 64 -> Lost Levels (1st universe)

Doom 3 -> Doom Resurrection -> Doom 3: RoE (2nd Universe)

Doom RPG -> Doom II RPG (3rd universe)

Doom: The Dark Ages -> Doom 2016 (+ VFR) -> Doom Eternal -> The Ancient Gods (4th universe)

[frail pawn]

I’m close to haveing the money for it I have like 50 rn saved so :P

[minor edge]

Final Doom is like 6 dollars

[quartz isle]

Bro i thought he meant like final doom as in the one that came out recently

Lmao

[marble spade]

lmaoooo

but yeah mainly unity ports on steam i’m pretty sure

[frail pawn]

Bro no lie when I saw that message I nearly spat my drink out lamo

[quartz isle]

Whenever someone says final doom i think about dark ages cause i just know thats the last of doom we will see in a while

[frail pawn]

I just go off names

[marble spade]

fake fan exposed raghhh 💔

[frail pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/flint-lockwood-gif-20142885

OMG VEGA DIDNT STRIKE

:O AFTER 900 YEARS

THE CURSE HAS BEEN LIFTED

[quartz isle]

I dont expect someone to mention buying some 30 yr old game in a conversation lmao

So i go with the more logical reason of assuming they mean the new one

Most people just pirate those games either way

[frail pawn]

This isn’t logical tho

[marble spade]

in the same channel as doom 3 being 2 decades old tho lmao

[quartz isle]

To my brain it is because i picture dark ages to be the "last" or "final" doom lmao

[frail pawn]

I did find an old shareware version of doom 1 tho

On some random ahh stick in my house

[quartz isle]

Well when someone says "doom 3" in a normal conversation i would ask them "you mean dark ages or doom 3"

[frail pawn]

???

[quartz isle]

Cause they match the same discription

[frail pawn]

Huh

[quartz isle]

Doom 2016 to me acted more like a reboot rather then a continuation

So when someone says doom 3 my brain skips to dark ages

[frail pawn]

lol

[quartz isle]

Its like they made doom 3, said "fuck this" and then made doom 2016

[frail pawn]

Tbh I just see the doom games as games and since all the new ones change styles it’s hard for my brain to say THIS IS A SEQUAL

[quartz isle]

I just label everything with numbers

Since doom 3 and doom 2016 are like totally different concepts theres like a break in the middle

So doom 2016 splits off for me as the new doom 1

And doom 3 for me is basically doom 4

[frail pawn]

By that dark ages is doom 8

[quartz isle]

Technically

[minor edge]

NuDoom is really just a rebooted classic doom

[quartz isle]

But since doom 2016 kinda like broke the chain it resets for me at doom 2016

[minor edge]

Doom 1 -> Doom 2016
Doom 2 -> Doom Eternal
Final Doom -> Doom The Ancient Gods
Doom 64 -> Doom The Dark Ages

[frail pawn]

But lore wise doom 4

Is dark ages

[minor edge]

RPGs only cover the first two and Doom 3 only covers Doom 1 sadge

Doom 4 (scrapped concept) would’ve been the Doom 2 reboot I suppose but Doom 4 was mid asf

[frail pawn]

I think doom 3 is just kinda mid tbh

[minor edge]

Doom 3 is better than Doom 2, Final Doom and Doom 64 IMO

[quartz isle]

Doom 1 = Doom 1
Doom 2 = Doom 2
Doom 3 = Doom 3
Doom 2016 = Doom 1
Doom Eternal = Doom 2
Doom TDA = Doom 3

[frail pawn]

Also why do caco demons look so goofy I saw the model and went

[marble spade]

…..

[minor edge]

Doom 3 is a Doom 1 reboot tho.. like Doom 2016

[quartz isle]

The caco from TDA?

[marble spade]

i have never met someone who does that dawg 😭

[frail pawn]

Although in game they might be horrifying (no doom 3)

[quartz isle]

Idk bro to me it makes sense

[marble spade]

to everyone else tho? no 😭

[quartz isle]

Like it goes from doom 1 to doom 3

Then it goes to doom 2016 like its a reset on the series

So it basically starts at 1 again

[frail pawn]

With me I kinda see it as
Doom 1
Doom 2
Doom 64
Dark ages
2016
Eternal

If I had to put doom 3 it would be part of the eternal multiverse theory

Same with final doom

[quartz isle]

Well that makes sense lore wise

[frail pawn]

Yh tru

[quartz isle]

But for me its just about a "how does the release make sense"

[frail pawn]

I want to beat them in lore order ngl

[quartz isle]

If you wanna beat them lore wise i think you should play doom 3 either first or last lowkey

It makes sense cause its a different universe

I wouldnt see how you could fit it into any order properly without making it weird

[frail pawn]

I kinda hate how slow the game is and how sluggish the terminals to open doors and stuff are

[sacred forge]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-sutherland-pod-people-podpeople-body-gif-10811761

[frail pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/am-crood-and-he-loose-gif-20216264

I felt like posting this for no reason other than why to not

[quartz isle]

I like the game if i look at it from a horror perspective. Thats why i dont like considering the game as a regular doom experience

[frail pawn]

Same but I’m expecting doom as well doom 3 is doom soooo :P

[quartz isle]

Its just hard to put doom 3 into any real order

But if doom 2016 plays kinda the same story as doom 3, maybe right before or after it?

[frail pawn]

Lemi try

So in this hypothetical timeline

We would have doom 3 in place of doom 1 and 2

But then we would need an in between game that branches the marines transformation into the slayer

(Insert doom 64)

Then we need a game juuuust before dark ages but not dark ages

So just a branch of 64 and dark ages

Then 2016 then eternal

So the timeline would be
Doom 3
Doom 64
(The game Branching dark ages and 64)
Then 2016 and eternal

[quartz isle]

What game could possibly come before dark ages

[minor edge]

final doom (if canon) would be the first universe

it would be between Doom 2 and Doom 64

[frail pawn]

Wild

Ight me has to go cus it’s nearly 2 am💀

[frail pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-fancy-dead-chat-yapping-pixelated-yapping-dead-chat-pixelated-gif-6714540924697693626

[scenic stratus]

I was about to say this in another thread

[woven flower]

I don't see how Doomguy went from the moons of Mars to being 5 million years old without some time travel and Dr pepper.

[cosmic vault]

Hello Fellows!! I have a question, the Doom3 ROE dlc is compatible with Doom3 BFG Edition??

[quasi silo]

It's pre-installed in BFG

[cosmic vault]

oh, but how i access to it? i can't find it inside of the game, just appear Doom I and II and Doom 3.

[quasi silo]

It's under DOOM 3

[cosmic vault]

Can't sent pic here, but no, it's not there 😦 if not i wouldn't have asked.

[icy saddle]

Just checked, it is under Doom 3.

start a new game in the Doom 3 menu

[cosmic vault]

Oh could be... Theres a way to save the "saved games files"?

[cosmic vault]

You right, it's right there, and also the Lost Mission... Ty!.

[crude badger]

Would doom 3 run fine on a 2016 non dedicated gaming laptop?

[icy saddle]

probably?

the game's from 2004

[crude badger]

Yeah nvm
Dumb question

[icy saddle]

Nah, you're fine

[crude badger]

I just got an old laptop from a relative and looking into playing classic doom/quake so it should run them fine but im just not sure sometimes

[icy saddle]

though, I do suggest running Dhewm3 over the Steam release or BFG

it's overall just a better experience

for 1 and 2, Crispy Doom, assuming you're looking for a vanilla experience

[crude badger]

Why so

[icy saddle]

mainly widescreen support and proper support for higher framerates

[crude badger]

I assume i would need the og steam release first?

[icy saddle]

yeah

or GOG if you prefer

Yeah, same price on both platforms atm. Get it wherever.

[crude badger]

How difficult to install dhewm3? Never done anything like that before

[icy saddle]

Easy, actually.

Download Dhewm3, grab the data files from Steam, and shove them into a folder

[summer barn]

Is there any guys here would be interested doing a doom 3 collab on my channel but with multiplayer verison instead there’s a way doing it

[minor edge]

sounds cool

[summer barn]

Like I want to build a group on my channel and have people just having fun because multiplayer on doom 3 is seriously fun to do and also annoying because u can kill each other unless u I think u put on the thing that stops it i dont know much other than u can do multiplayer through a old website and download

[minor edge]

im down if timezones work out

[dusty mortar]

Doom 3 deserves a remaster

Just imagine Doom 3 with the graphics of Silent Hill 2 remake

[ornate heath]

If it can run half life 2, then yes

[crude badger]

Havent played hl2 but it can run tf2

[delicate horizon]

OK so I own doom three but I haven’t really played it. I bought it on sale for like a pound. Is it tied to the main line like a eternal?

[crude badger]

Different universe

[minor edge]

It's not following the story of the slayer but it's like sort of tied sort of not

There's references to the events of 1-64 but for the most part it's just entirely a reboot

definitely still play it though it's one of the best doom games

[lost horizon]

Is the ssg in doom 3?

This is my first time playing idk much about this game

[icy saddle]

Only in ROE

[lost horizon]

Oh sick

I think I'll play that too then

[honest gate]

Yall play bfg?

[rain ginkgo]

Nah, 2004 edition via Dhewm3 for me

[cedar stirrup]

Hi, I have a somewhat silly question but one that always intrigues me. I once tried to open the Doom 3 Alpha map editor and it wouldn't let me. Do you know how to open it to be able to edit these maps? I also have a question about how these maps could be ported to Doom 3 retail with the cinematics and everything (I once wanted to port these maps to open co-op but never finished it due to lack of information)

[dusty mortar]

can you recommend mods for doom 3?

[gray harbor]

the SSG is in Doom 3 ROE and the Lost Mission, however there are mods that bring it into the vanilla campaign

[minor edge]

Doom 3: Phobos

[dusty mortar]

Thanks

[coarse timber]

Is there a level editor for Doom 3? And if there's more than one, what would you recommend?

[tough fjord]

best doom game

[lost horizon]

Doom 3

[lost horizon]

I've heard the chaingun is really good but I haven't found it yet

[scenic stratus]

its on the microsoft store

i dont know

it was also on the bethesda launcher

[quasi silo]

And on Epic Games Store

If you had the Bethesda.net edition you can get an exclusive Steam version of DOOM 3 called "DOOM 3: Bethesda.net Edition"

[scenic stratus]

i have that one

[quasi silo]

Sure!

[scenic stratus]

imagine buying another awful doom 3 port just for a DOOM Eternal skin

[crude badger]

We're getting a proper doom 3 remaster at quakecon this year i can feel it

[lapis goblet]

deleting doom 3 in the next quakecon announcement

[ember sparrow]

Hello, can someone please point me to a reliable trainer for Doom 3 bfg edition (steam)

[livid lake]

Reliable trainer?

[ember sparrow]

Yep, online searches have expired links and fishy websites

[livid lake]

Whatcha need help with?

[ember sparrow]

Looking for a trainer, God mode and inf ammo, don't want to use the console method, bricks my save game

[livid lake]

Oh, for like cheat codes and stuff?

Afraid I can't help ya there

[limpid tendon]

the 4 doom 3 fans gon be extremely happy

[tough fjord]

doom 3 > dark ages

[cursive gulch]

Quake 3 remaster all the way!!!!

Campaign for quake 3!!!!!!!!

[quasi silo]

Q3 already got a remaster 💔

[mighty wraith]

Doom 3 got a remaster already

It doesnt need the skyrim treatment

[sinful moss]

There is no need but Metroid Prime got a really good remaster soand that game didnt need it,but it looks Leagues better. Im sure a doom 3 remaster and especially with revamped lighting and effects would be dope,and especially a zoom for when you aim the weapons to make them better,think of it like a lock on that centers the fov

Doom3 Again™

[scenic stratus]

you know they are only going to re-release the bfg edition over again

[cedar stirrup]

Hi, does anyone know where I can get the poster for the Doom 3 novels? I mean, see the cover art without all the logos

[past musk]

I recently finished Doom 3 and absolutely loved it.

[cedar stirrup]

It's a very good game, it's my favorite FPS

[frigid brook]

The BFG Edition that Doom 3 received can really just rest in the dumpster where it belongs
What [2004] Doom 3 needs is a complete idTech8+ remake from the ground up

[lost horizon]

Guys I just got the plasma gun

This thing is clean

Armor seems to do literal fuck all in this game

I think I'd like the og doom 3 more cause of the flash light thing

It really sucks because I can't play that version on xbox

[quasi silo]

You can, just not on the XOne and XSX/XSS

[lost horizon]

Yeah I meant the xsx. Shit maybe I should buy an original xbox and a copy of the game

[lost horizon]

Are you jealous of my avatar decoration jk

[compact pond]

Is doom 3 good

[sand gyro]

No idea

[minor edge]

yes!

[compact pond]

Me seeing it for $4 on the eshop

[unkempt crescent]

Except maybe an update to where you can pick what lightning you want. And if you want flashlight or shoulder flashlight

[unkempt crescent]

Just don't play it on veteran cuz armor is dogshit in Doom 3. Only ever play Marine or Nightmare difficulty

[lost horizon]

Whats the difference in nightmare difficulty

[unkempt crescent]

Nightmare gives you the soul cube. And you take more damage. And health decays to fifty
Nightmare is playable cuz of the soul cube. Makes up for Doom's 3 shit armor

[lost horizon]

What does the soul cube do because I just got it

[unkempt crescent]

Get five kills of whatever demon, swap to soul cube, kills a demon or sometimes more and regain full health.
I think it's supposed to kill only one. Fits perfectly with Doom 3's game design.

[unkempt crescent]

@lost horizon
There is purpose to using multiple guns. Demons are generally weaker to some than others. And combat shotgun you need to charge and shoot. Combat Shotgun can actually four or six shot a baron of hell.
Chainsaw is as good as og doom, just need to be aware of mancubus and archvile being immune to Chainsaw cuz of their attacks.

[unkempt crescent]

All enemies have their tactic. Possed soldiers either nade, bait them to charge you or charge them when they stop firing.
Cacodemon's attacks are canceled out by the plasma rifle.
Most projectile attacks are canceled out by the plasma rifle.

[quasi silo]

I have it too lol

[lost horizon]

Ok thanks for the tips

I beat doom 3! Now I'm gonna start RoE

Any tips for RoE would be appreciated

[unkempt crescent]

Pretty much the same for base Doom 3. Except use the heart artifact whenever possible. Especially when you get the berserk power up on command ability

[unkempt crescent]

https://youtu.be/lqO7mPmdhBw?si=oahy2n9xI_yCaC1X

[unkempt crescent]

What'd you think of Doom 3?

[lost horizon]

Pretty good 💯 genuinely a game I'd recommend to doom fans

I think I'm gonna replay on nightmare

I never replay games that I don't really enjoy

Btw, my favorite redesign is probably the cacodemon

[icy saddle]

it's a cool design, but I still prefer my floating squishball of cuteness

[unkempt crescent]

I love all of their designs.
Possesses Soliders never looked as badass. Especially the ones with the red lens in their helmet.
I remember Cacodemon looking more lovecraftian like

Love Doom 3's industrial futurism mixed with lovecraft elements.

[lost horizon]

Yeah the Lovecraft elements are great. And the depiction of hell is really metal

[lost horizon]

Should I play RoE on marine or veteran

[unkempt crescent]

Especially the sky box. Endless hellish cosmos.
Like hell is a living entity and we're walking in it's essence

Marine

Armor value is still shit regardless of whichever Doom 3 campaign you pick

https://youtu.be/8Zl8oIla-x8?si=WYXMd2fOHQ-q8xr4

[lost horizon]

Nice

Man one complaint I have is not being able to skip cutscenes

[lost horizon]

Oh shit I didn't know that

Yeah version on gamepass is the bfg version I guess. That's the one I'm playing but I wish I could play the og

I'm on xbox series x

[scenic stratus]

shame console players are stuck with such a shitty port

[modest ore]

Not as bad as being stuck with versions that don't even have multiplayer.

[scenic stratus]

pretty sure thats the one he's playing

panic button port

[modest ore]

Yeah, that's what I'm referring to.

[scenic stratus]

And its literally the same as the bfg edition but without multiplayer.

[modest ore]

Yep. It's hard to believe that Panic Edition didn't bother to add the multiplayer mode as well to the 2019 console ports.

[scenic stratus]

why bother?

mp would be dead after two weeks

[modest ore]

Sadly, it's because arena shooters are a niche market. Most people nowadays play Fortnite and Call of Duty.

However, that doesn't mean that the current versions of Doom 3 shouldn't have multiplayer when the original Doom 3 and the 2012 release of the BFG edition have it.

Hopefully, Nightdive Studios will do a proper remaster of Doom 3 that has multiplayer and maybe include the co-op mode from the original Xbox port of it as well.

[lost horizon]

Well that fucking sucks

[modest ore]

IKR!

[unkempt crescent]

Don't really mind multiplayer being cut out.
I personally never death match or any PvP mode in Doom.
For my PvP games, I prefer the likes of Chivalry

[modest ore]

Dude, Doom is what gave birth to multiplayer shooter games!

[crude badger]

What could it not run on

Pc wise

[modest ore]

The PS2.

I know it's not a PC, but still.

Yeah, that's why it never got ported to the PS2 unfortunately. Way too underpowered to run it.

[crude badger]

I got the lost gamecube version

trust

[modest ore]

They'll have to downgrade it to low-tier Dreamcast/high-tier N64 levels though.

Still, it wouldn't be able to run Doom 3. Hell, Vicarious Visions already had to make techinical and graphical compromises to port to the original Xbox.

That's when you know that there's no way a PS2 port is possible.

[unkempt crescent]

Thought that was Quake

[scenic stratus]

would it be worth it though?

[modest ore]

And speaking of Vicarious Visions, they could have ported Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy to the PS2 if they had wanted to considering that both games run on id Tech 3 which the PS2 can handle.

And better than the N64 port I bet.

Not that the N64 version is bad, but I feel that many Quake players consider the N64 port to be an inferior console port, even to the PS1 port.

[crude badger]

The mouse support was nice but unfortunately they didnt include cheese support too so the mouses tended to die

[modest ore]

That is actually a pretty funny joke.

[lost horizon]

Do you guys like the doom 3 shotgun?

I'm split on it ngl

[scenic stratus]

whoever tells you its good is lying

[lost horizon]

Lmfao

[unkempt crescent]

It's good for how the environment is designed. If the shotgun was like that in 1993 it would be dogshit.
Plus using it on veteran is a deathwise. I wish armor was actually good in Doom 3. Need to play on Marine or Nightmare to make the game playable.

[lost horizon]

Hell yeah ghosty

U got me into doom 3 ngl, so thanks for that

It would be so dope to have doom 3 and RoE physically

[scenic stratus]

whats the point of being a gun if you have to be at point blank to deal any damage

[lost horizon]

About to try to double barrel on RoE

Hope it's good

[scenic stratus]

that one is actually pretty good

funnily enough it has less spread than the normal shotgun

[lost horizon]

Does the heart on RoE heal you?

[scenic stratus]

nope

[lost horizon]

Ah ok

Nightmare must be tough then

[gray flume]

agreed, makes sense in the context of the game environment

i never had any issues tbh

[scenic stratus]

the artifact makes it really easy tbh

[unkempt crescent]

That brings a smile to my face, you're welcome.

[unkempt crescent]

I think you also get the soul cube during RoE on Nightmare.
Fucking hell that's op if that's the case.
Slow down time with one shot berserk and soul cube. EZ win.

[scenic stratus]

you only get the maxed out artifact

[unkempt crescent]

OK was about to say

[lost horizon]

I'll make sure to use the heart whenever I have berserk

[unkempt crescent]

Still easy cuz how plentiful the human corpses are throughout the maps

[unkempt crescent]

Every enemy dies in a hit. Even hellknights.

Do wish the artifact had your guy screaming like in Doom 3.
Berserk in Doom 3 is my favorite because of that spine chilling scream.
Now gameplay wise, it'll always be classic Doom.

https://youtu.be/5W3Wmz0aR0o?si=dIeuOgmG2v8uyZ9E

[scenic stratus]

When I put it in their mouths, they die.
If I'm further than 3 inches they don't.

Shotgun is amazing and underrated.

[misty abyss]

No, it's just plain terrible

[quasi silo]

I like the shotgun

The spread complaint would be valid if not for the fact you are almost ALWAYS up close to the enemies

[misty abyss]

it's valid because spread is still terrible, regardless of that

and if you are close might as well use chainsaw

[unkempt crescent]

Not all the time. With possessed you still need to be considerate if you're under fire. And some demons straight up deny you from chainsawing them.

[quasi silo]

Spread being ass is sorta irrelevant when you rarely ever need it to be better

Why would you use a shotgun from a long distance anyway? This is realism if anything

[misty abyss]

Opposite of realism

[scenic stratus]

Actually shotguns are still lethal from further ranges

[quasi silo]

But their spread isn't precise

You use other guns for that, which DOOM 3 gives you a whole arsenal of

Alright I looked it up and I'm wrong

Apparently shotguns do have good spread IRL, so my realism point is null

But I still stand it's a good weapon because its weakness encourages you to try the rest of your weapons

You don't just shotgun everything

[scenic stratus]

chainsaw everything

[quasi silo]

true...

[unkempt crescent]

Think about the series we're discussing. Plus game design wise.

[misty abyss]

Doom is anything but realistic and yet original Doom has more accurate depiction of shotgun unironically

[unkempt crescent]

In 1, 2, and Absolution all of our ballistic bullets were hitscan.
Shotguns are deadly as hell irl. I'm not fooled by video game logic, but reality's logic doesn't always dictate game design.

[lost horizon]

There's an achievement for 25k points on super turbo turkey puncher 3 lmfao

Got it lol

[mental vault]

Does the console commands work on gamepass pc ?

[scenic stratus]

No

[mental vault]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-rage-anger-why-gif-18513328

[unkempt crescent]

@solar ocean
How's Doom 3 going

[honest goblet]

Is doom 3 any good

[scenic stratus]

yes

[lost horizon]

Halfway through RoE, I think I like the base game more

[unkempt crescent]

Just don't play on Veteran difficulty. Cuz armor value is shit

[unkempt crescent]

Lost mission is the only one I don't really care for.

[lost horizon]

How long is lost mission?

[honest goblet]

Is it hard to get all trophy for it

[unkempt crescent]

Maybe four or five hours

[lost horizon]

Oh ok cool

RoE is like 4-5 hrs right

I just beat the 3rd baron

[unkempt crescent]

Not really.
Just need to have collectible guides on hand, save points before select actions, and beat the game on Marine and Nightmare.
If you beat it on Nightmare you also get the veteran trophy.

[unkempt crescent]

I think the third baron gives you berserk. You are at the mid point I believe

[lost horizon]

Wait so how do I charge the heart

Cause idk how to charge it

[minor edge]

Yeah RoE felt really samey to me

[honest goblet]

Is there online trophy

[minor edge]

I didn’t really care that much for it

[minor edge]

Go to a corpse and hold the artifact while facing the corpse

[unkempt crescent]

Depends on the version.
I'm just assuming you're referring to BFG version.

[unkempt crescent]

Need to have it in your hands as you near human corpses.
It'll only leech human souls if you have it out.

[lost horizon]

Ok thanks

[honest goblet]

It's a ps4 version

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, that would be BFG.

[quasi silo]

2 hours

[misty abyss]

Or less depending on how you play, i completed it in like 1 hour 36 minutes while playing on Steam Deck at work

[wanton crown]

I just started paying attention to this game last night, this game sounds freaking scary

But also really cool, I wouldn't want to play it, but the atmosphere👌

For 2004, those were some top notch graphics

[unkempt crescent]

Still is imo.
The game's visuals and lighting are still some of the best to me. Kinda like how Dead Space 1 still looks incredible today due to its lighting.
Doom is one of those few series that has looked incredible all throughout the series.

[wanton crown]

With the soul exception, being the models of Doom eternal demons

[unkempt crescent]

All demons have also been incredible.
My personal favorite amongst the modern dooms is either Doom 4 or Dark Ages.
The only design I remember not liking in eternal was the revenant.

[wanton crown]

Doom 4 means doom 2016?

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, I'm just tired of saying 2016 instead of Doom 4

[wanton crown]

Makes sense🙃

[woven juniper]

The Idtech 3 engine was a beast, 2005 Prey also looks amazing for the same reasons.

Wish more games used that engine before it went the way of the dodo

[unkempt crescent]

I think Rage and Wolfenstein 2009 also used Idtech3

[woven juniper]

Rage used a new one to facilitate the whole mega texture thing, but yeah Wolf 09 also used 3

[quasi silo]

Wolfenstein 2009 used id Tech 4

Return to Castle Wolfenstein used id Tech 3, however

[woven juniper]

Oh yeah 4 not 3

[quasi silo]

Prey also used 4 and not 3

[woven juniper]

Dark Mod is also built using 4

Yeah I got them mixed up

[quasi silo]

id Tech 4 and 5 are the only ones with similiar-enough games to the point they feel like a natural evolution and not a huge leap forward, imo

[woven juniper]

5 was good, but I just remember the texture streaming issues where if you turned quick enough shit wouldn’t be loaded in properly. Going from 5 to 6 was a better transition.

[quasi silo]

Was that a PC only issue? Never noticed it on console

[woven juniper]

Might’ve been

[honest goblet]

its say no online on the game

[misty abyss]

No online in the PS4/Xbone versions

seeing as they patched it into modern official classic Doom port maybe Doom 3 will have it in another port again

[sleek schooner]

Question, where does doom 3 take place in the timeline? I've always assumed that it was its own thing and that it's not connected to the other doom games. But there are some people who say all the doom games connected

[sleek schooner]

I hope they bring the official vr port to PC. It's dumb that it's a PlayStation exclusive

[quasi silo]

People theorize that D3 itself is in another universe from the rest of the series, but there is only one Hell and it connects all of the universes we see

[modest ore]

Hopefully with the co-op mode from the original Xbox port.

[unkempt crescent]

I actually see Doom 3 being a dimension that was absorbed into hell.

Considering in Doom 3 RoE we prolly cause the hell invasion on earth. Call of Doom was scraped so we'll never know for certain.

[unkempt crescent]

Was hoping it was available on meta.
Doom 3 in VR actually sounds badass to play.

[midnight basin]

hi, i look for 2 person want make the multi achievements on d3 if its still possible:)

[solar ocean]

Good

[sleek schooner]

You can actually unofficially port it to a quest and it's actually really easy

I just wish there was still an official port too. I can imagine it being even more popular if it was just more available

[sacred forge]

is it normal to install the source port for BFG edition on Steam?
The official game as provided by Steam seems to have problems launching unless I set a graphics mode, then alt+enter twice, and it's grinding my gears. I thought it was a weird thing on my PC, but it turns out I may not be the only one.

[sleek schooner]

Yk that makes a lot more sense. Thanks my man I appreciate it

[sacred forge]

I agree the original is the GOAT, I was trying to play through BFG to see it for myself. But I will use a port, thank you 👍

[next flint]

can you combine doom 3 redux and perfected doom 3?

[vivid silo]

👍

[midnight basin]

hi, I look for 2 people want try the multiplayer succes in doom 3 bfg edition 🙂

[quiet beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/its-the-biggest-piece-of-dogshit-dogshit-the-rock-its-dogshit-the-rock-the-rock-dogshit-gif-14058859016706222262

[quartz gust]

How do I make the resolution 1920x1080?

[quasi silo]

Check pins

[supple gull]

The start of the demon invasion is still one of the best SHTF moments in gaming history.

[gray harbor]

yeah I did like the intro

[unkempt crescent]

Radio screams, lost souls going through walls, imps crawling out of the walls, and seeing possessed eat corpses.
Good stuff

[vernal crest]

I've always felt like the intro to the game was basically speedruning what horror movies do where in movies the first half is spent going "something is not right" while something is happening and then in the other crap hits the fan. If that makes sense

[scenic stratus]

I see where you're going

Yeah the first act is where shit already hits the fan

[unkempt crescent]

I can see that. But also so pacing isn't terrible, cuz would we want to do hours of cutscenes? Doom isn't machine games wolfenstein.
And could also help the player develop interest in finding and reading PDAs to better understand the Mars base and Maledict's invasion attempt.

Something I see alot of people get wrong with Betruger is they think he's still human, still in control. When in reality, he was just another pawn like Olivia was to hell in Doom 4.

[vernal crest]

I've heard a theory about Betruger being dead before the game's event, and that the Betruger we see is Satan/higher ranking demon pretending to be Betruger

[unkempt crescent]

Something like that.
Cuz when we read PDAs, we learn that Betruger wasn't always a cultist. Once he came back from the hell portal, he was no longer the same Betruger

I kinda forgot why he self nominated as a test subject.
I'll be playing Doom 3 again sometime soon so I'll be reading all PDAs again.

[distant tiger]

I actually need to start reading those, I just kinda nab them and head on with my life

[vernal crest]

I suggest reading them

[distant tiger]

I’ll start doing that then when I actually start playing Doom 3 again

[unkempt crescent]

They're essentially like PDAs you'd collect in Doom 4.
All codex pages implemented into Doom after Doom 3 was thanks to Doom 3's PDAs.

[distant tiger]

Ah Alr

[unkempt crescent]

Some People like to think Doom 4 did it first. But Doom 3 was the first that implemented codex pages.

[sacred forge]

Audio logs in the dark... some of the most atmospheric moments this series has ever had

[lost horizon]

doom 3

[ember sparrow]

Never made that connection, good catch

I hope we get another doom game set on Mars. I'd do anything for a UAC setting. Go outside and explore the Martian surface. Imagine dark ages sized map on Mars, and another in the style of doom 3.

With the modern dooms' map viewer it would be so fun hunting for secrets and collectibles

[unkempt crescent]

Knowing Id they don't like to repeat themselves with modern doom iterations.

Honestly fine with Doom 3 being the only Doom game like it. Id was working on call of doom during Doom 4's development hell. Game was so far detached from doom at that point, they scraped it. Some call of doom designs is still in Doom 4.

https://youtu.be/9L1bxlOVp8Q?si=KoAJpTudV9vtvHzA

https://youtu.be/e4TiPwTbBh8?si=SglPKzIT_UdgRuK1

https://youtu.be/dxR7JKQp2_M?si=09nAmnfl3R33tD6r

[shrewd raven]

I'd like to talk about one little obscure part of Doom 3's story. Before the invasion, when Betruger was sending teams to Hell to retrieve demons etc
When they came back, pretty much all the teleporter volunteers were going gradually insane, losing cognitive abilities including their speech. They became paranoid and violent and some of them even started to "atrophy", pale skin, muscles rapidly wasting away.... I'm mostly repeating what was said in the audio logs of Delta 2a by Dr. Peter R(I forgot his last name)

@scenic stratus Do you believe these people were undergoing a very slow process of zombification?

Like, instead of a ghost-skull turning you instantly, you would travel to Hell, come back, and then slowly change into a zombie after a couple of weeks?
What do you think?

[minor edge]

it's like a less silly version of what happened to the people in Doom 1

Military “volunteers” entering them have either disappeared or been stricken with a strange from of insanity— babbling vulgarities, bludgeoning anything that breathes, and finally suffering an untimely death of full-body explosion

[vernal crest]

not the Doom lore expert but I like that theory, and I guess it could be an explanation for who hell can zombify (I've seen people mention that people on mars can only be zombified if they were on mars for a while, but ROE kinda debunked that theory)

[vernal crest]

considering that Doom 3 was basically a rewrite of Doom 1 (minus the invasion of earth) I can see that

[shrewd raven]

Me personally I am trying to rationalize why they were losing cognitive abilites and their bodies were "atrophing"
If they weren't becoming zombies then I dunno what's up with that

[minor edge]

they were definitely becoming zombies they're described like the Z-Secs

[vernal crest]

I guess it came to their brains not working properly the more influence from hell they've had?

[scenic stratus]

Yes, I think this is the process of slowly turning into Possessed.

[weary grotto]

this got me hooked and i just need to replay doom 3 just cuz i went through it all without paying much attention to pda's and stuff

[shrewd raven]

Yeah, there's one PDA early in the game describing this stuff too
A patient complaining of insomnia visits the local doc
Doc leaves him alone for a few minutes
He comes back, the patient is carving symbols into his arm then attacks the doctor with the scalpel he used to mutilate his own arm. Definitely a zombie before the invasion

Oh yeah. Mr. Scalpel also cuts his own tongue into 2 halfs

Honestly these are my favorite parts of the PDA backstory

[weary grotto]

the movie was decent too, but playing the game for the first time gave me chills cuz i was so excited to get it

[shrewd raven]

Fascinated by how the zombification thing works

Actually

I'm wondering if people were being slowly possessed without even having to be a teleporter volunteer

[weary grotto]

I didn't know that , nor the whole scalpel thing. just remembered the scene from the movie where that guy ripped his own ear

[weary grotto]

I don't think they were, only those who were volunteers

[shrewd raven]

The insanity definitely reminds me of Event Horizon
Specifically that video log where the whole crew was doing, uh, unspeakable things to themselves

That's what Mr. Scalpel reminds me of

[weary grotto]

maybe some hell's "energy" went through the portal as well so it infected other people too?

[scenic stratus]

Yeah I see many other people drawing connections between DOOM 3 and Event Horizon. Yeah that film was pretty wild lol

[shrewd raven]

Another little oddity I'm wondering about
@scenic stratus Why is it when you return from Hell every zombie is a commando and every corpse is a skeleton?

Did opening the portal cause another shockwave that commando-fied everything? 🤔

[unkempt crescent]

Teleportion technology is typically the way Hell would invade other dimensions.

Teleportion technology essentially being a doorway signal for them to pour through and devour and warp other dimension realities.

Notice how everything was fine until UAC or Martians aka night sentinels discovered teleportion.

[scenic stratus]

Not sure! Could be advanced necrosis or maybe just them happening to place more skeletons than normal corpses in the post-Hell levels. But Betruger is the one creating the Commandos.

[weary grotto]

oh yeah! this is definitely the answer i was looking for

[shrewd raven]

It begs the question, can you take a slow, lumbering zombie
Or a ZSec
And make a more durable, athletic commando out of them?
Or does he just use marines for that?

It honestly baffles me why all the non-commandos are gone

And every corpse is just a bloodied skeleton

Unless it's a body part, or a torso with no limbs, no head

It's like while you were gone in Hell, every demon took the time to brutalize every dead body

Or strip it of its meat so it's just a skeleton

And there are non-zombie survivors too!

And I don't mean Swann and Cambell

It's weird

[vernal crest]

funny thing: there's a mod for Doom 3 about that movie

[scenic stratus]

Nice

[vernal crest]

it's called Event Horizon XV if you wanna look it up

[warm star]

Playing Doom 3. The demons are scary but the humans look like either mole people or racial stereotypes.

[vernal crest]

eh, to me they look fine

[distant tiger]

Honestly are the surprise Imp jumps even possible to dodge?

[unkempt crescent]

They are if you're used to their pounces.

[distant tiger]

Well then clearly I ain’t =,]

[unkempt crescent]

I mean they're possessed withering bodies of flesh.
You can read about it in the PDAs you find.

[shrewd raven]

Some of them are if you manage to quickly get behind a wall
Or kill them point blank with the shotgun

[distant tiger]

Actually know what, I think I did dodge one of them by accident with a sidestep one time, I don’t remember tho-

[unkempt crescent]

I usually just back step sprint, duck under fireball and then shotgun ram

[distant tiger]

All else fails, I just tank the damage and move on with my life

[shrewd raven]

Backstepping sometimes works yeah

[distant tiger]

Noted

[unkempt crescent]

That too

[distant tiger]

On the topic: I need to read the PDA’s more, people seem to find them really helpful and I’ve just been collecting them to collect them, basically-

[unkempt crescent]

They're worth the read

[unkempt crescent]

Not playing on Veteran are you?

[distant tiger]

I’m playing on Ultra Violence

Or whatever the difficulty is called in Doom 3

[scenic stratus]

Veteran yep

Recruit (Easy)
Marine (Normal)
Veteran (Hard, so Ultra-Violence)
Nightmare speaks for itself

[distant tiger]

Oh ok

[scenic stratus]

I have beaten Nightmare on BFG edition. It was insane lol. If I couldn't Quick-save it would be worse than on DOOM 2016 absolutely

[distant tiger]

I haven’t played Doom 3 in awhile, so I forgot

[scenic stratus]

Doom 2016 nightmare: You can still get 200 health and a lot of armor and you are allowed to make mistakes.
DOOM 3 nightmare: You have full health until you don't, which is often. You do have soul cube tho but still

Also enemies doing 350% of their usual damage

[distant tiger]

Honestly Doom 2016 & Doom Eternals Nightmare difficulties are basically the same for me

The only difference I saw was that they do more damage and flank you more often, other than that, they are my main difficulties to play on

[scenic stratus]

Not being a difficulty where enemies do 100% damage bothers me

I have not beaten Eternal Nightmare but I was playing TAG1 on Nightmare and I found it harder with full gear than DOOM 2016. Once one has a full loadout on DOOM 2016 it gets easier for sure. First three levels sucked but after that it improved significantly

Perhaps I should do a regular Nightmare on Eternal if it's a good idea

[distant tiger]

If you have much experience in Ultra Violence, then yea

I started on Ultra-Violence before bumping it up to Nightmare and nothing really changed for me

Although I will say, somedays I was just terrible at the game for no reason until I got good again the very next day XD

[scenic stratus]

Yet DOOM 3 and 64 remain the games where I beat the highest difficulty mode, if only because there was no ultra-challenge mode.
I have beaten UN on Dark Ages but with altered sliders, 'difficulty modes' barely mean much for me on TDA, it's just slider presets

Either way g'luck on this DOOM 3 run you're doing

[distant tiger]

Im not even into Hell yet, so it's a long way to go

[scenic stratus]

Yeah game is surprisingly long. OG Xbox version cuts parts but it's still quite a tour. G'luck marine

[distant tiger]

Yes sir

I had to say it, apologies XD

[scenic stratus]

No problem 👍

[unkempt crescent]

I usually advise against UV on Doom 3 cuz of armor value. Long as you're enjoying the game, that's all that matters

[distant tiger]

The game is honestly pretty decent for the "no auto-reload and limited stamina" restrictions

Love the demon designs as well

[unkempt crescent]

People hate it for no reason. Reload isn't slow and cumbersome like cod
Maybe there's reason to not like it in og Doom 3

[unkempt crescent]

Through my experience in Survival horror, I don't understand the criticism.

[unkempt crescent]

Doom 3 is exactly that. An action survival horror game. Like how Dead Space is

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 isnt survival horror

[unkempt crescent]

Not in the sense of RE1.
More so the more action heavy ones. Like I was with referring to Dead Space

[warm star]

I mean before the demonic invasion.

I'm just poking fun at the graphics of a game from the early 2000s.

[quasi silo]

I never noticed the humans looking odd

[unkempt crescent]

@scenic stratus
What would you say, M0no?
I know you also play survival horror based off your discord.

[distant tiger]

Yea, idk why, I don't really like it but im not gonna hate on it

[lost horizon]

I feel like the double barrel is too op

I don't really know if it fits in doom 3 ngl

I get that alot of ppl hate the shotgun but still

[lost horizon]

(I'm a shotgun fan)

[crude badger]

Super shotguns have always been powerful

[lost horizon]

Yeah, in my RoE playthrough its basically all I used

[modest ore]

I say Doom 3 is more of an action horror game than a survival horror game.

[lost horizon]

Yeah that's fair

Guns go boom game

[modest ore]

Survival horror to me will be something along the lines of Resident Evil, Silent Hill, and Alone in the Dark.

Doom 3, on the other hand, is nothing like those games.

[unkempt crescent]

I'd swap between the two depending on the situation. Conserve ammo

[unkempt crescent]

I mean look at RE4, it's survival horror whilst heavily focused on combat like Dead Space. Which inspired Dead Space.

[lost horizon]

Finally got down the early bfg trick

Doing a nightmare playthrough

[lost horizon]

This made me realize how much better the bfg is than I thought it was

[unkempt crescent]

Just thinking of my silver ghost and TMP loadout

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, it's fucking deadly

[lost horizon]

headshot damage is the way to go

And you can charge it too. Crazy

[unkempt crescent]

Don't forget the tendrils

[lost horizon]

And the splash damage too lol

You can shoot the floor and you won't get hit with any self damage from enemies

[delicate horizon]

Yo

[scenic stratus]

Decided to do my first run on RoE in months. Started on Nightmare just to see how it is

Yeah Ima restart on Veteran instead lmao

[woven juniper]

I feel like without the soul cube nightmare runs on RoE are tougher than base Doom 3 nightmare runs, but I’m sure the artifact alleviates some of that. But I’ve never beaten it, yet.

[scenic stratus]

Ok yeah I am not enjoying this... granted playing a game past nighttime always makes me enjoy a game less lol

Maybe I'll go back to DOOM 3 RoE later

[scenic stratus]

I would call Doom 3 action horror, a-la RE4-5-6. Great game.

[unkempt crescent]

Thank you, M0no.
Knew you'd see where I was coming from.

[unkempt crescent]

https://youtu.be/aG2483ZVlas?si=Os82piQWk2pgiwKg

[unkempt crescent]

Watching this, I don't get why Doom 3 BFG is more hated than the og Xbox version.

[scenic stratus]

OG xbox made me feel like a slowwalker with that FPS lol

Tho I gotta give them points for still having skippable cutscenes on OG Xbox like how it's supposed to be, BFG edition made it unskippable because... I dunno why

[unkempt crescent]

I never tried skipping the cutscenes in Doom 3 BFG. Even if I could, I probably wouldn't.

[supple gull]

Because BFG pussified the game and neglected to fix armor.

[minor edge]

taped on flashlight

extra ammo

[crude badger]

They can make advanced sc fi weaponry but cant make some flashlight on a shoulder?

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, Armor should've been fixed in BFG. That is my biggest issue with Doom 3

[unkempt crescent]

It's why I never recommend Doom 3 on Ultra Violence in general

[unkempt crescent]

It's a pure game design choice.

[sacred forge]

I feel like BFG kinda proves they were right

Hot take: The game isn't as fun when it's lit better

[red steeple]

Hey guys i gotta question

I missed one pda in the base game, do i gotta replay the entire game collecting all of them from scratch or will it count if i only collect the one i missed

[quasi silo]

The former

[red steeple]

Dang

[lost horizon]

https://youtu.be/BdvtzCY0Bb4?si=CBOCA52nr3pYVvdk

[unkempt crescent]

I'll give this a watch sometime today

[unkempt crescent]

@scenic stratus
You think Elizabeth might've been a disciple to Maledict?
How she welcomes us home when we trap ourselves in hell. And her behavior in the PDAs.

[unkempt crescent]

If not a disciple, I do believe she tricked us into jumpstarting the hell invasion that would've been for Call of Doom

[scenic stratus]

I personally do not think this honestly, I got the vibe that she genuinely had good intentions.

[quasi silo]

Wait, trap ourselves? I thought the ending of RoE was him coming home after killing the Maledict, maybe a timeskip or something

[unkempt crescent]

The disciple part might be far fetched.
I'll be playing Doom 3 again sometime soon

[ornate light]

I think it’s implied to just be a vision RoE guy experiences at his death

Since Elizabeth is presumably killed when you cut all of the oxygen in her sector iirc

[quasi silo]

DoomWiki claims it might be them meeting in Heaven

That's a dark ending then. Always seemed like an epic one to me

[ornate light]

RoE guy’s soul is trapped in Hell forever

Probably what happened with current doom lore in mind lol

[lost horizon]

He barely has any subs but that video is really good. Im suprised

[scenic stratus]

I always took it to mean they both died.

[scenic stratus]

In either case Lost Mission seems to be the least dreadful ending, assuming RoE guy did die in there
I always found Lost Mission ending to be interesting for how wholesome it feels for a DOOM game

[unkempt crescent]

Based on my memory, Elizabeth kept mentioning returning " home " in the PDAs we collect.
She does die from us draining the entire UAC base for one last trip to hell without means of returning.

But her welcoming us back home is what really sets that idea in motion. She seemed rather calm about everything, including her own death. I could be mistaken but didn't Davoth create everything that we've come to know. If he created both Hell and earth, I can See Elizabeth referring to home as Hell cuz of Davoth.

I really need to replay Doom 3 again. And to reread your lore guide, M0no

[scenic stratus]

I never had a hunch that she was evil. I guess I gotta look deeper

But yeah I thought 'Marine? Welcome home.' implied I somehow got back to Mars but thinking about it... it doesn't seem so possible, no. We unambiguously are shown to be back at Mars in Lost mission and base-game, but a sudden black screen with 'Welcome home' feels alarming in hindsight

Gotta love how wholesome Lost Mission almost feels. Boss dead, back at Mars safe and sound, and first thing you see is a nice old guy smiling at you and calmly saying 'nice work, Marine.' like a teacher congratulating a graduated student

[lost horizon]

I still get nightmare if i beat the lost mission campaign on marine right

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, just need to beat it to unlock.
Have you already finished Nightmare on Doom 3 and RoE?

[lost horizon]

Halfway through doom 3 nightmare

Havent beaten roe nightmare

And i still have to playthrough lost mission

I like the extra monsters you get on nightmare difficulty

[unkempt crescent]

I haven't played through any of them on nightmare yet.
The difficulty is more fun than Ultra Violent. Least we always have a means to near constantly get health back from soul cube.

[warm star]

So how do zombie soldiers still have combat skill?

[unkempt crescent]

They're possessed not zombies

There's been many types of possessed in Doom over the years. From the classic possessed, the possessed you're seeing in Doom 3, and the possessed we see in modern doom.

[minor edge]

Same thing really

They’re called Zombiemen in Doom II

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, Grist, you're not wrong.
But it was their context use of zombie. The possessed are zombies but not all of them are like the resource husks.

Doom 3 possessed might be my favorite possessed in stylewise

[lost horizon]

wait really? not even doom 3 ?

[unkempt crescent]

I think I got side tracked with Dragon's Dogma or some other game

[lost horizon]

[unkempt crescent]

Doom sidetracked me from Oblivion Remake. Lol

[lost horizon]

ppl being sidetracked by doom happens alot

ugh I wanna play original doom 3

[unkempt crescent]

Same

[unkempt crescent]

Tbf, Doom is one of the best game series.
Only other games that bring me the same joy are capcom games. And a few others.

[lost horizon]

ya, I genuinely like every game from the series, which is a crazy thing for a franchise

I've always found doom to be comforting

[unkempt crescent]

It is one of my autistic niches. Lol

[unkempt crescent]

Same, I love all of these games. Not a bad one amongst them

[dense cloud]

Hi

[lost horizon]

sup

[warm star]

Some are clearly zombies, even seeing some with their upper head completely missing yet still moving.

[low lantern]

👋 hello

[vernal crest]

I almost thought the game was haunted because the door at storage kept opening and closing, but not it was just a wrench

(killing demons but ghosts being silly is too scary, lmao)

[quasi silo]

Started DOOM 3 2004

[vernal crest]

nice

[scenic stratus]

Welcome to the club

I beat that OG Xbox version. Damn that hell knight on the cover looks badass

[low lantern]

Sadly, pc version it's 2004 (not included Resurrection of Evil & The Lost Mission expansion) and unlike doom 3 from PS4 & Xbox One

https://www.gog.com/en/game/doom_3

https://store.steampowered.com/app/208200/DOOM_3/

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[quasi silo]

What?

I don't understand what you just said

[low lantern]

Doom 3 from gog and steam it's outdated because rollback original 2004 (without 2 expansions) and not base on BFG: Edition

[quasi silo]

That's wrong

DOOM 3 from GOG and Steam literally comes with BFG Edition. It also gives you the option to play the original version, which I am doing here willingly; and the original isn't outdated, it has its own pluses

[low lantern]

But for me, PS4, Xbox One and Switch base on BFG Edition (under the name Doom 3) and better pc (via gog & steam)

[quasi silo]

The PS4, XB1 and Switch version is playable on PC and is objectively worse than BFG Edition

[low lantern]

Sadly, now pc version not included 2 expansions

But not unfortunate without 2 doom classic games (The ultimate Doom & Doom 2)

[quasi silo]

It still includes the expansions

[crude badger]

Whats the difference between bfg edition and the remastered version from 2019

[quasi silo]

2019 version has no multiplayer, no classic games included, but apparently the flashlight is SLIGHTLY better (in terms of how good it looks)

[low lantern]

But I never saw 2 expansions on Doom 3 on gog & steam

Resolution limited 768p or 900p ?

[quasi silo]

You were looking wrong then

[low lantern]

Excuse me, where ?

[quasi silo]

When you buy DOOM 3 on Steam you literally get Resurrection of Evil and BFG Edition along with it

[low lantern]

No multiplayer or offline but not unfortunate without classic 2 games

[quasi silo]

It can be played offline

[low lantern]

Nightdive remaster doom classic and doom 2 better on BFG Edition

But, Doom 3 classic resolution limited 768p or 900p or 1080p ?

[quasi silo]

The BFG Edition remasters are quite good on Xbox

[low lantern]

GOG & Steam platforms library show Doom 3 (classic 2004) only ?

[quasi silo]

No

[low lantern]

I never saw library Doom 3 on gog

[scenic stratus]

I have both versions on steam. Og and BFG

[low lantern]

And library doom 3 on GOG.com platform has Doom 3 BFG Edition only ?

[delicate horizon]

Is doom 3 a horror like game

[misty abyss]

It desperately tries to be one

[delicate horizon]

Does it succeed?

[misty abyss]

Depends? Nails the atmosphere but I'm having a hard time getting scared there. Maybe your experience will differ from mine.

[delicate horizon]

Well, I’m the kind of guy that went through resident evil seven on his first Playthrough and didn’t get scared four times I got scared maybe twice at most

[unkempt crescent]

It's an action horror game. Still very much Doom.
There is two versions, so look into them before playing. And do not play on Veteran, the armor is shit in this game

[jagged quest]

it definitely made me feel scared but that was when i was a kid

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, you'll only be scared by this game if you're easily scared.

[jagged quest]

thats what being a child meaaaans lol

[unkempt crescent]

I mean I played this game as a kid too. Was never scared. I actually played through Dead Space 1 at age nine.

[tame arrow]

i like this game

[unkempt crescent]

Difficulty?
And got a grip on how the combat shotgun works?

[vernal crest]

well yeah but honestly I think that anything that isn't a jumpscare is more scarier (via the story in the good way and the atmosphere, and I've heard that it's even scarier in VR)
so it's scary but not in a "spooky" way but more in the "what happened here" if that makes sense

[vernal crest]

I usually play on Veteran/hard since it spawns more enemies (so it's not just "oh they deal more damage") tho I only recommend it if you're familiar with the game
the shotgun can be a bit wonky at times but it's good if you know how to use it (though you can also use the chainsaw which is extremely op in this game), get close to the enemy and aim for their chest to kill them, if you don't manage to kill them with one shot quickly back away. You can also kill a hellknight with 8 shots (4 with the headshots but it is difficult)

[unkempt crescent]

Dark, I know how to play Doom 3. Lol
The shotgun is wonderful. Just horribly misunderstood by new players. Doom 3's combat shotgun fits perfectly with the environment we're in.

I advise against Veteran solely cuz of Doom 3's armor value. It's the worst I've seen out of ID games. If Doom 3's armor was actually good, I'd play on Veteran. I'll only ever play hurt me plenty and Nightmare difficulty.

[supple gull]

In MCU you can hear someone yelling "Back it up, back it up, boys!" Sounded so random.

[lost horizon]

how do you guys feel about the stamina bar in doom 3

sometimes it's kinda just annoying

[unkempt crescent]

Do we play the same version, Wake? BFG

[lost horizon]

yeah I play bfg

the one on the xbox gamepass

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, I never have issue with stamina since we have a near infinite supply. Just need to remind ourselves to take off auto sprint occasionally for a moment to regain our stamina.

Doesn't take long to regenerate.
I think it takes longer to regen if you exhaust yourself

[lost horizon]

u gotta play doom 3 nightmare

it's really fun

lost mission nightmare will be interesting because there's no soul cube or anything I believe

[woven juniper]

Base Doom 3 Nightmare is pretty fookin spicy

[unkempt crescent]

It was very fun when I tried Doom 3 on Nightmare. Except a few moments. Like the pinky introduction without soul cube and low health.

[drifting fjord]

Is there any info on the development of the lost mission? Playing through for the first time in BFG edition (through the incredible RBDOOM3BFG port) and can't find much online.

[drifting fjord]

iirc while it's not in the campaign you do get it in nightmare

[drifting fjord]

I only JUST noticed my third time in Hell that you don't have the meter at all while in Hell for some reason, you can run the whole time, combat feels so much better

[supple gull]

It's explained in-universe as the Hercules complex.

[scenic stratus]

it absolutely is

I couldn't have done it without extensive save-scumming
100% health until you don't, 350% enemy damage, good. lord.
Soul cube is useful but still, this is... well, hell.

[vernal crest]

not a fan of it, I often just open teh console and type in "pm_stamina 0" (it gives you infinite stamina)

[jagged quest]

so if you were to play a remake of doom 3 do you think it would be better without the need of stamina?

[vernal crest]

yup, tho I don't think I'd want a remake of Doom 3 since I don't really trust modern ID

[jagged quest]

thats fair. tbh im trying to make a redesign of doom 3 made in snapmap using snaphak, im just doing this due to a mission i saw called "doom 3 tribute" that just had a horrible level design to it so i wanted to make my own

[vernal crest]

ooooh

[jagged quest]

already made the sprint system (without stamina) and reloading, gonna add a flashlight next

i also made vtol for the level, i posted it in videos

#videos message

[vernal crest]

you're welcome

[sick roost]

ok so i've been trying to 100% DOOM 3: BFG Editio all for the sake of fun (already got Dark Ages, 64 and 1 + 2 with all achievements) and i've been getting a lot of issues on the game, one of which being the one of "achievements have been disabled due to console enabled". brother, i don't have it on and the game thinks i do. is there a fix for this?

[final drum]

it was basically intended to be one, but opinions on how successful it was do vary

I just learned there is a superb mod called Overthinked DOOM3 that goes all in on that aspect and turns the game into a true survival horror

[rich marten]

Is the game even canon if so how

[final drum]

not really

think of it as an alternative universe sort of thing

you don't even play as the marine in the expansion

but as a different guy

[jagged quest]

it was originally a reboot

but it wasnt liked that much so devs discarded it

[final drum]

well, I guess that changed since OG doomguy is confirmed to be doomslayer

I think of DOOM 3 as "dead space before dead space existed"

sort of how Hexen was dark souls before even demon's souls existed

[jagged quest]

yeah complete change after the canceling of doom 4

[final drum]

I gotta try overthinked doom3. I played Sigil, which is basically survival horror doom, and really liked it

I just gotta figure out how to play OTD3 with the original gun sounds, because the modded gun sounds trigger my tinnitus

and also the doom 3 plasma gun reload sound is the best reload sound ever

[woven juniper]

It kinda is canon, cause the same tablets that Samuel Hayden has in Doom 2016 show up originally in Doom 3. You don’t play as a the slayer in Doom 3 you play as a random marine. The slayer or at the time of 2004 “doom guy” shows up in the ancient Martian tablets using the soul cube. Alluding to the events before he was put in the sarcophagus.

doom canon is weird though so you can pick and choose whatever you want

Soul Cube shows up in 2016 as inert too, which is funny

[rich marten]

Then is the guy you play as in doom 3 not doom slayer

[marble spade]

it is canon to the story line just not for the slayer

[marble spade]

just know anything doom slayer related is not canon to doom 3

[marble spade]

no it’s just a random marine

[woven juniper]

Like I said he’s just a random marine

[errant tundra]

Why Did People Hate Doom 3 for "Not Being a Doom Game," Yet Love The Dark Ages for Being an Even Less Doom Quake Game? Also, why is the Doom fandom so insecure they have to make videos individually crapping on people for disliking TDA? You're entitled to your opinion, but your opinion doesn't make you a better person.

[scenic stratus]

nudoom fans in a nutshell

[honest goblet]

Is doom 3 still worth playing

[unkempt crescent]

I honestly take to calling him the Doom Survivor

[unkempt crescent]

Think Doom 3 was just one of Doom Marine's battles before he was found by the sentinels.
We do find proof of him in the game.

I mean with the Martians. He's obviously not in the dimension with us at that given time.

[supple gull]

What about ROEguy?

[unkempt crescent]

He dies trapped in hell

[minor edge]

Sort of

[minor edge]

He's that universes version of the character "Doom Guy" but he doesn't become the slayer

but official word from id (from when doom rpg released) is that he's an alternate universe version of the doomguy from classic doom

[storm igloo]

hi guys,is there is any way to uncap fps,mine fps is capped at 60.

[final drum]

makes sense seing as doom 3 is a retelling of doom 1 but in a full 3d engine.

[final drum]

IMO you should mod it.
Afaik there are 2 main mods to look at, Perfected DOOM 3 which turns it into something akin to eternal, and Overthinked DOOM 3 which turns it into true survival horror.

polar opposite mods for completely different styles

[quasi silo]

DOOM 3 had positive reception

The hate for it is recent and very rarely ever has any basis

[minor edge]

it literally sold better than doom 1, 2 and 64 AND 2016 😭

[minor edge]

oh hey omori pfp peak

[final drum]

I call them "chronic contrarians"

they have to hate on something that is popular solely because it is popular

kind of like those kinds of people who disagree with anything you say regardless of what you actually said

[proud plover]

guys doom wont launch on steam on pc. I only get audio no video any help?

[jagged quest]

i meant the artsyle

[quasi silo]

Moving goalposts huh

The graphics received acclaim

[jagged quest]

from my experience whenever i asked anyone on doom 3 irl they always complained how it looked visually and graphic wise

[quasi silo]

I don't really see what there is to complain about

[jagged quest]

i dont either cause i actually like the artsyle of it

some would even call it "not doom" which makes zero sense to me

[marble spade]

someone said mighty doom is more doom than doom 64 and 3, i think i want to gouge my eyes out since reading that

[final drum]

doom 3 has superb art direction. The base has a lived in feel and all of the things you hear in the background, over transmissions and PDAs are really good

it's just that it's different design elements didn't quite mesh properly

The two Sigil expansions for DOOM 1 basically pull of what doom 3 was going for

[minor edge]

...do they...?

[shrewd raven]

How?

[final drum]

when played on UV, Sigil is quite tense because you have less ammo and more enemies, the areas are often designed to give you little room to move so dodging enemy attacks becomes more tense, and some areas are dark but are designed so that you cans till see the monster's silouettes as well as briefly light up the room with your muzzle flashes

and the levels are set up to either prevent you from running thrugh them or to punish you if you do

so it becomes slow paced, tense horror action where you manage your resources carefully

cyberdemons are also used as stalker enemies because you can't realistically kill them

[jagged quest]

i think i loved that part about those levels that it made sure you took your time

[final drum]

yep, I also liked that part. Makes every encounter with a baron real memorable

and the overthinked doom 3 mod turns doom 3 into a sigil equivalent

forces you to go slow and carefully plan your actions

as well as heavily rewarding exploration because every bit of extra ammo you can find is a life saver

oh yea, and also slow healing

[jagged quest]

tbh i really would like to see this game remade the exact way it is in modern engines. i would enjoy every bit at looking at the models with having much smoother graphics

when i first played it i loved it but now because i played nu doom its hard to play it now with how old it is lol

[final drum]

sometimes older graphics are actually better, as games like Dusk proves.
it depends on the overall design, but in Selaco for example I get a sense of immersion I haven't gotten since system shock 2 and alien isolation, and Selaco runs on GZdoom

graphics, art direction and sound design work together and if you update one you need to update them all

[jagged quest]

true

[final drum]

i think the sweet spot is when it leaves out just enough to activate your brain so that it fills in the blanks

this is what SS 2 did and it's a major reason it worked so well

Isolation meanwhile works because everything is designed in a way that makes it look real when you see it

like you actually get the feel for the place existing and you moving around in it

especially in how your hands are animated when you use the wrnch, the plasma cutter etc

noting is skipped and you perform all the steps you would need to do if it physically existed

also the loading of each individual bullet into the revolver

another great example is Black Mesa. made on modern tech and a visual upgrade from the original half life, but still looks like a prequel to half life 2

[supple gull]

Never noticed it but the "I don't wanna die!" guy in MCU is the same guy who was getting snappy with the maintenance worker.

[unkempt crescent]

The ItS NOt DoOm.
Ok, eternal fan

[jagged quest]

i know a eternal hater who think doom 3 isnt doom. i dont get people at all tbh it has the premise of killing demons with many guns so that makes it doom

[unkempt crescent]

To me, Doom is about Demons, Guns, Horror, and the personal journey through hell we take.

Also hear some downgrade Doom 64 for not being DoOm

[jagged quest]

doom 64 is more doom than what the originals did imo gave it a more scary feel plus more dangerous looking demons

[unkempt crescent]

Plus Doom 64's gore is the best to me in Classic.
How gritty and brutal it feels

[misty abyss]

The atmosphere and feel of 64 just hits that spot imo. I believe this is also where we first witnessed hell being colors other than red or orange.

[vestal jetty]

Can someone please tell me the access code for chief abrams office?

in his PDA it says 901 but on the key pad there’s no zero…

NEVER MIND!!

it’s 931 I forgot to read the email.

[vernal crest]

yeah the thing with the early BFG is a puzzle

[unkempt crescent]

I fucking love the BFG in Doom 3.
Might honestly be my favorite iteration.

[woven juniper]

Yeah I love the wind up animation/sound effects

Also the risk reward element of charging it up before it backfires on ye

Solid iteration

[supple gull]

Yes Doom 3's BFG has awesome sound effects.

[vestal jetty]

Idk why but I love the sound effects for the plasma gun when reloading

sckeee weehhar gee ckusjs.

[woven juniper]

Sci fi gun ASMR

[unkempt crescent]

The game in general has some of the best SFX and Visuals imo

[primal heart]

mid ahh game go play 2016

[unkempt crescent]

Ragebait much?
I'm actually about to continue my nightmare playthrough of 2016

[woven juniper]

You playing it on PC or Console? Just curious. I’m personally doing TDA then 2016 and capping off with Eternal. Just bought TDA yesterday.

[vestal jetty]

hassun habibi it is doom so it’s not mid

unless it was that mobile thing

[unkempt crescent]

I'm a console player. Play Doom on my PS5

[woven juniper]

Playing through them currently on my PS5 as well

[unkempt crescent]

The classic it's not d0oM treatment.
Even Doom 64's been getting called that by Nu Doomers...

[vestal jetty]

wha

[unkempt crescent]

I know, man. It's fucking stupid

[supple gull]

Funny thing is, classic Doom was intended to be a horror game like Doom 3 was, yet most of the "not Doom" dorks are oblivious to that. Shows that purists are the worst part of any fanbase.

[unkempt crescent]

Thankfully, ATP. Most doom fans here all acknowledge classic Doom to be horror. Like Evil Dead 2 type of horror.
From my experience anyway.

Hell, even my brother tries arguing with me about Doom noy being horror. And it was Doom 3 and 2016 that were horror.

All of Doom has horror

[lusty scaffold]

It has but surely only marine is not the nightmare in the game, rather a survivor

[dusty mortar]

I feel like Doom 3 was a game that was hated for a long time and now people are starting to have some affection for it

[unkempt crescent]

That's what it feels like to me too. But apparently it was liked by the community at launch.
Kinda like the current TDA situation.

[scenic stratus]

DOOM: The Dark Ages is a good game but a bad DOOM game

[quasi silo]

Which is funny because on release it was enjoyed. The timeline of its hate is a bell curve

[unkempt crescent]

Doom 3 is fucking weird when it comes to time. Lol

Even I didn't like it for whatever reason for some time. Despite me actually loving it just as much as Doom 1 & 2 before that point and to now.
I think I allowed myself to follow the terrible criticism thrown at the game.

[simple wasp]

I genuinely love how the PDA isn't a pause menu, it gives the feeling of being stuck on your phone when a monster suddenly attacks you while reading the codexes or listening to an audio log

Really subtle stuff like that makes 3 feel real in a special way that few games achieve

[scenic stratus]

Wait, monsters can attack you while looking into the PDA?

[simple wasp]

They were occasionally when I was playing the bfg edition

[scenic stratus]

Well talk about immersion.

[unkempt crescent]

Also love how PDAs are the precursor to codex pages in doom

[scenic stratus]

I was thinkin' about playing it for a long time, and knowing this, now I'll definetly give it a shot.

[simple wasp]

They predicted us having phones all the time

[scenic stratus]

It's like Far Cry 2's map.

[unkempt crescent]

Far Cry 2 is underrated as fuck from what I typically see and hear.
Usually hear about far cry 3, which is a good game but..

[scenic stratus]

Yeah, but the 2nd is so immersive.

And the reason that people hate it is because it is unforgiving if you're playing like a dumbass.

[unkempt crescent]

Guns jamming, flamethrower being the deadliest in the entire series, and far cry 3 actually lessened gun variety

[scenic stratus]

I agree.

[simple wasp]

Realism when it adds to suspense is peak

[scenic stratus]

And the biggest difference between the 2nd and the 3rd one is that we should consider that Hocking was the project leader for FC2 and that he pushed those "hardcore" elements because he wanted to get you into that world, which was, of course, merciless and brutal.

And the other example is probably Dead Space with its Map/Inventory system.

Which also functioned in real time.

[unkempt crescent]

I'm also autistic for dead space

[lost horizon]

dead space looks fire I should try it

[ripe orchid]

Highly recommend it, if you’re on Xbox, Dead Space remastered is available through Gamepass on EA Play

I don’t know if the original Dead Space 2 and 3 are available through that too because my brother shared the downloads for those when he had them but they’re also great games too

[lost horizon]

oh cool, I'll check it out then!

[jolly cape]

after 3 fast paced DOOM games it would be nice to get something like DOOM 3 again with slower horror vibe and a bit of realism in things

[scenic stratus]

nudoom fans would despise it

[ripe orchid]

Boooooo

🍅🍅🍅

[unkempt crescent]

You should.
And play both. Both original and remake are incredible. Play original first tho

[main sky]

Will dead space feel like doom 3 with the first person view mod?

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-balthazar-boo-mr-burns-gif-2855093406289441337

[dusk crane]

Atmosphere sure but Dead Space 1 is insanely slower paced as far as movement and it’s a lot more scary.

[dusk crane]

Doom horror game where you’re a normal dude instead of the Slayer.

Would be an interesting spin off game imo

[unkempt crescent]

Don't underestimate your melee.
Melee is deadly and fun as fuck

[supple gull]

Doom Enemy Territory when?

Just found out that you can find Storage Room C4 guy in the Xbox version as a zombie.

Another fact about the Xbox version is that playing on Veteran gives enemies more health. Pretty cool.

[scenic stratus]

so the shotgun becomes even more useless

damn

[supple gull]

Yeah, it takes two shots to kill an Imp up close.

[marble spade]

do not play dead space 3 skip that dogshit

[supple gull]

IDK why but the third entries in many series in the 2000s and 2010s were shit, like F.E.A.R. 3.

[marble spade]

don’t get me started on fear 3 lmao

[unkempt crescent]

I miss my Quake Enemy Territory

[unkempt crescent]

If you also had a xbox, bro, I'd ask you to walk with me in hell. Lol

[unkempt crescent]

Gears 3 was pretty good to my memory

[supple gull]

Is it me or did they kill off Bravo team because they didn't know what to do with them anymore?

[final drum]

Civvie, a man of culture and avid DOOM fan, liked DOOM 64 and that's all the reason I need to give it a try.
He says the version that came with Eternal is the best version

[quasi silo]

Not a hard pick by any means

[marble spade]

it’s like best in series tbh

[unkempt crescent]

Horde mode, beast mode, the movement, everything was incredible

Gears 1 or 3 is my favorite story out of the gears trilogy.

[ornate holly]

when doom 3 rtx?

[marble spade]

i’ll probably gears 2 for story

[unkempt crescent]

Jinx and I were talking about Gears of War.

[quasi silo]

The convo just evolved to that

[vestal jetty]

this guy right here is the son of Malcom betrrugers voice actor

[tough fjord]

best doom game

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, Doom 3 is the only other action horror game I love that is industrial future mixed with lovecraftian. Dead Space alongside it

I need to replay Dead Space 1 og sometime

[dusk crane]

Coincidentally I think those companies were trying to keep up with what was popular.

In Dead Space 3’s defense though I will always believe it was an image pushed by EA, who then got mad when it didn’t work and shutdown the company who made the game they pushed for.

[strange haven]

i feel like doom 3 sticks out like a sore thumb in my opinion

[quasi silo]

How come

[strange haven]

the aiming

the level design, the flashlight

[quasi silo]

Idk what you mean by aiming

[strange haven]

what i mean is the aim sensitivity

[quasi silo]

You can just tweak that

[rough kernel]

i dont like doom 3

its just the the models are a little off compared to the other games

[jagged quest]

thats because it originally was a reboot 💀

[supple gull]

It's disappointing how the Arch-Vile has no introduction cutscene.

[crude badger]

Doesnt need one

[lost leaf]

AAAAAAA

[supple gull]

There should've been more zombies that played dead. So many dead guys with zombie models.

[strange haven]

Doom 3 is honestly a fucking mess

[jagged quest]

to you

[strange haven]

yep

[strange haven]

Guys, its my opinion!

[quasi silo]

And we are entitled to the ability to disagree

[crude badger]

We are also entitled to hold a vote for an execution

[strange haven]

ok

I will give doom 3 a chance... I give it a 5/10 stars

[obtuse night]

What am i expected to see in doom 3? It looks different than the rest of the franchise

[scenic stratus]

More of a slower, subdued horror approach. Of course games before that already were horror-esque in places, but DOOM 3 leans into it more

[obtuse night]

How much horror is it?

[scenic stratus]

depends on what you'd qualify as 'much'

It's very clearly horror coded, and some people find it scary

[unkempt crescent]

It's action horror. So the horror is more atmospheric. Especially in the setting, tone, and enemy design.
Doom has always had horror at its core. Doom 64 and 3 happen to be the ones that focus more into it.

[simple wasp]

Betruger is no janitor for sure

[strange haven]

doom 3 is a good game but there are some issues

[obtuse night]

Im not good with jumpscares

[obtuse night]

The two games that i didn't try yet, besides tda

[scenic stratus]

Oh it has quite some of those

[obtuse night]

Oof

[quasi silo]

You turned around fast

[scenic stratus]

DOOM 3 is seen by many as being the weakest (I can understand that... somewhat) but that's still a badge of honor, when DOOM 3 is your weakest game. It goes to show that your franchise is high quality

People who put doom 3 last place still admit it's not bad, just not great. but doom is a consistent and quality franchise

[unkempt crescent]

There are jumpscares but it's more ambush attacks similar to classic Doom. And the occasional mirror distortion, base falling apart, and Maledict's influence

[supple gull]

I like how the bullets aren't hitscan

[supple gull]

Yes indeed. Useless armor, the shotgun spread, overuse of Imps and underuse of certain other enemy types(looking at you, Delta Labs).

[unkempt crescent]

Armor is trash in this game. Reason I never play on Veteran.

[simple wasp]

I can agree, i personally find the most egregious issue to be that reload animations cannot be swapped out of to another weapon (like the newer Wolfenstein games), nor can you stop reloading the shotgun at any point in time just to fire a shell

There are lots of cases where combat would be much more fluid if you could just load one more shell into the shotgun and shoot it, and I'm baffled that someone working on the BFG Edition thought the solution to the reloading problem was just to make one shell-loading animation count as 2 in the tube

[dusk crane]

This game is a jump scare simulator.

[simple wasp]

I will, however, defend its spread as it is meant to be able to hit and kill small enemies like Trites if they are anywhere on the screen

[dusk crane]

I feel like I used the shotgun most of the time in this game. There’s so much ammo for it all the time.

Not the best gun obviously but like you pretty much always have access for it.

[unkempt crescent]

Trites are much more vulnerable to pistol.
Every enemy does have its gun weakness

[simple wasp]

The problem with the pistol is you have to aim it, and there are a few scenarios where Trites come out of the walls for a prolonged period of time

Like after you get the Soul Cube

[dusk crane]

SMG time?

[simple wasp]

The ammo placement you mentioned definitely indicates they really wanted you to use the shotgun, you basically only get efficient stocks of other ammo if you're a codex nerd and check out every PDA and data disc you see

[dusk crane]

This is true

[simple wasp]

I used the machine gun once the shotgun was out of ammo so I wouldn't have to reload it yeah

[dusk crane]

Like plasma gun is super good if you can aim but ammo is always in those damn lockers

[simple wasp]

People really sleep on the fact that 3 introduced an explanation for size changing technology in the franchise

[unkempt crescent]

It's the method I picked up. Faster rate of fire and reload time. Would use SMG but it's actually shit against them

[simple wasp]

They revolutionized plasma and hydrogen energy into more concentrated and useful forms by miniaturizing the molecular lattices that are storing the ions

Clearly some Hexen chaos sphere type Hell shit

[dusk crane]

Doom 3 probably has the most world building and cohesive lore. But it’s because there’s like fucking hundreds of text and audio logs to go through and poster to read and characters that actually talk to you.

It’s also not confusing at all.

[simple wasp]

You can tell a lot of love went into the writing

[dusk crane]

Unlike the multiverse timeline in the modern doom games (as in it’s confusing)

[simple wasp]

I simply headcanon that the "multiverse" is more confusing than it is because the only evidence we have for the cosmology and timeline comes from unseen demonic scribes who come from a realm that is classically known to house liars and deceivers

The modern games start to make more sense when you look at them as multiple tiers of unreliable narrative

It makes more sense to me to consider that the demons regard the war against humanity to be an entire era unto itself, even if it's less than a hundred years long, because they want to control the narrative, and it's easy to pass things off as impossibly old when features get "hellified" in a cosmological instant as Doom 3's level design actively shows

We (or I, really) have to put up with mysterious fantasy humans from a parallel world if we want to have Heretic and Hexen esque stuff, but there is also clearly a theme of entities presenting as humanlike for the sake of familiarity to deceive humans

The really clear design language of the Mars bases and the fact there are literally a load of broken STTP3 machines in an older facility on Mars in 2016 indicates to me that the modern games are in the same universe as 3, and that the relics of Site 3 portray from a narrow demonic perspective the events of Doomguy in the war against Hell after he stays there in 64

To the demons, it happened a long time ago, though they clearly don't have a concept of granular time

Sorry for my insane conspiracy idea 💀

[dusk crane]

It’s hard for me to believe that they’re all connected but like

Eternal makes them all connected with it’s crazy story telling.

[simple wasp]

Eternal essentially makes obvious some of what they had been suggesting, on top of setting up more about the Maykrs (despite statues of them appearing as early as in 2016's deathmatch maps)

I often point to Samuel at the conclusion of 2016 knowing to wield the Hell Crucible as a sword (which he is shown in recorded holograms to walk directly to the location of without caring about the soldiers around him dying) as the modern writing team already having an idea of what the events between 64 and 2016 would be

Stuff about what characters would be named and what they would look like and how the necessary factions of the conflicts involving Hell would work internally seemed to be a work in progress most of the time however

[jagged quest]

#screenshots message working on this for bit wanted some feedback, its meant to be a redesign of darkstar

[supple gull]

I wish there were more sentry bot encounters. I hate how they just disappear halfway through

[strange haven]

Doom 3 is a MASTERPIECE

But its not my favorite. that has to go to Eternal

[unkempt crescent]

That's quite a drastic change. Lol
From shit to masterpiece. What made you fall in love with Doom 3?

[simple wasp]

He got to Site 3

[strange haven]

its a masterpiece because of the voice acting, the graphics (at the time)

[unkempt crescent]

The graphics still look very good. Especially that lighting.
All of the guns look, feel, and sound incredible. Especially the plasma rifle and BFG.

Plus the sheer atmosphere. Industrial futurism and lovecraft. And Doom 3 feels the most bleak Doom has ever been.
Especially RoE's ending.

[distant tiger]

I have completed my Doom 3 run, im moving on to the DLC's now

Needless to say, I found out you can duck under the whatever the name of the demon is with the tentacle arm's attacks (most of them anyway)

[unkempt crescent]

Yeah, Crouching is actually effective in a game for once.
I'd typically shoot them with the combat shotgun or chainsaw them.

[quasi silo]

Idk if DOOM 3's voice acting is to be praised cuz I can barely hear it over all the SFX. That one guy that sounds like Quagmire is great tho

[unkempt crescent]

I'd sooner think of the SFX, environments, story and guns.
The only voice I can remember is Maledict's.

[supple gull]

Doing a new playthrough of Doom 3 currently

[unkempt crescent]

I'll likely be doing the same during my four days off these coming days.

[misty abyss]

Doom 3 is one of those games i wish it was longer

[simple wasp]

Definitely not enough hell levels

[misty abyss]

EXACTLY

[minor edge]

so true

[misty abyss]

the few minutes in hell is my biggest gripe with the game

[unkempt crescent]

I think RoE sorta makes up for the lack of hell levels. To my memory there were more hell levels in RoE.

[quasi silo]

RoE had one more iirc

[misty abyss]

Both expansions did have atleast one hell level but both expansions felt pretty short. Lost Mission has best hell levels in entirety of Doom 3 imo

[quasi silo]

RoE had one and TLM had two I believe

[unkempt crescent]

Is lost mission canon?
Cuz according to Doom 3's ending only Doom Survivor was found and rescued. Memory might be off

[misty abyss]

It takes place in middle of the main campaign iirc

[quasi silo]

It's either a retcon or they just didn't notice the events of TLM

[unkempt crescent]

Think it borders on retcon. Cuz you and the scientist are on the landing platform when they drop down.

[minor edge]

Retcon

They already had retconned that detail when Doom Resurrection (the mobile game not the dlc) released

[quasi silo]

Our first conversation about that game was... something

Glad despite that being our first impressions of eachother we remained cool with eachother 😭

[vernal crest]

yeah in the base game only Doom Marine survived, honestly I hc that the darkstar ship ended up getting shot down by demons to prevent them from warning the earth about their plans

[vernal crest]

wait wasn't that game a prequel or am I wrong?

[main sky]

No it's a sequel to doom 3

[eager mauve]

Here are some unpublished commands. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do.

pm_air 10000000
For Infinite Air on the Martian Surface.

nextGUI
To cycle through all GUI screens on the current map.

give video ipn_news
To have IPN News on your PDA.

playdemo demo1 (From the game, since the sound will not be heard from the Main Screen)
A secret demo: demo1.demo.

[vernal crest]

oh nice, thanks a lot (may use these in the future)

[unkempt crescent]

Doom Survivor dies off screen?
I might be hella off with that.

[strange haven]

do I have to beat the original doom 3 in order to play RoE?

[quasi silo]

No but you should

[misty abyss]

no, but if you want to have context for it then do play it

[vernal crest]

no but for the sake of the story you should really finish the base game first

[quasi silo]

And cuz it's cool

[unkempt crescent]

Why not just finish the main campaign then continue on to its sequel dlc?

[minor edge]

Yeah lol

[minor edge]

No it takes place right after

[simple wasp]

I keep forgetting, does the BFG edition include the dlcs

[vernal crest]

it does, but if possible play the og

[simple wasp]

I want to someday, though I am primarily interested in the hell levels and any extra lore in these expansions

[main sky]

Best way to play is with the dhewm3 source port imo

[quasi silo]

It was the first appearence of one of the DLCs lol.
Anyway I'm a huge BFG defender

[minor edge]

Its story runs parallel to Doom 3, returning gamers to a different part of the monster-infested moon base as a new hero.
(doom resurrection interview with John Carmack)