doom-3

[cerulean jungle]

That's valid

[coarse timber]

For me Doom 3 is badass from the start

The horror of Doom 3 is surface level horror and I wouldn't play it for that. But the action in Doom 3, is top notch

[earnest matrix]

It doesn't sound like it's worth playing but everything is relative. I've only played DooM 3 + Exp on PC and you give no motivation whatsoever for playing on XBox 1. 🙂

But my PC is probably 10+ years newer hardware than XBox 1.

[quasi silo]

The Xbox One version is just the BFG Edition, this is about the version released for the original Xbox from 2001

[solar bough]

I did get Dhewm3 working on my Steam Deck.

So I hope I can get CstDoom 3 on there as well. Along with Crispy Doom and Doom 64 EX Plus.

[misty abyss]

i don't have Deck anymore so the only way here is to find out in practice

But from experience usually most stuff works with either proton experimental or latest proton version

[quasi silo]

The Imp jumpscares from the door have scared like a total of three people after the first one

Damn, you got me...
||April Fools||

Okay yeah that one was good

[earnest matrix]

XBox 1 and XBox One. It get's confusing.

Microsoft naming is horrible sometimes. So first XBox is just "XBox" I guess. And then second XBox is "XBox One".

If they had named first XBox "XBox Zero" it would be better than nothing so you get those numbers in order.

[scenic stratus]

I just call it OG Xbox but yeah it is pretty obnoxious I won't lie

Sony:

PS1
PS2
PS3
PS4
PS5

Fairly numbered.

Nintendo:

NES
SNES
N64
GameCube
Wii
Wii U
Switch

Idiosyncratic but recognisable

Then there's Microsoft.

But yeah OG Xbox doom is not a bad port, the fact that a console could run it in the mid-2000s was considered a major achievement by many

Yes there's cuts, but the game still feels tight and good enough

Doom 3 for xbox is a good port but a bad doom game

Oh yeah I keep forgetting it's April fools lol

April fools this year has felt... tame.

[earnest matrix]

It's highly subjective which is why I used the term "relative" to each person. I will give credit to the developers for getting a popular game to an audience that wants it, as you say, back in the 2000s on a not-so-powerful gaming console. 👏

[scenic stratus]

Yeah. Granted, Xbox was arguably one of the most powerful of its time. PS2 and GameCube ports just couldn't be done. I feel that OG Xbox is kind of underrated as a whole

[quasi silo]

The second Xbox is the Xbox 360

[earnest matrix]

Well, these console makers are always making trade-offs. The technologies they go with sometimes work real well for one game but not another. They make tradeoffs also between speed and visuals. So, "most powerful" could be in technical specs but does that matter to gamers if they're gaming seems slow.

[quasi silo]

It's probably even more confusing, but it helps to know the One in Xbox One stands for All-In-One

[earnest matrix]

Yes, good to know. I have never owned an XBox or Playstation. I've never felt the need to look elsewhere since I have had a PC always.

[quasi silo]

I prefer console gaming but I keep my PC around for stuff I can't play on my Xbox

[earnest matrix]

What is it about the consoles that you prefer, the simplicity of just playing a game and not having to futz with the system?

[quasi silo]

I'm fine with tweaking settings and stuff. I use my PC for mainly older games because they don't get ported to new platforms so I'm used to having to set stuff up. I just prefer it for the specs. My PC is farr behind and consoles are a cheaper alternative. They also often have better versions of PC games

[quasi silo]

Also the ability to play stuff without my device going off like a jet engine

[earnest matrix]

Well, whether a version is better or not depends on the year of release. God of War and Ragnarok just came to PC and one could argue they are superior to anything released on the console. But that just makes sense because they are much newer in terms of the software development they've been put through for the PC ports.

[quasi silo]

That's true, but most games release on PC first, so console usually gets the better version. And I mean stuff like exclusive content, not optimization

[earnest matrix]

Which games are you talking about?

[quasi silo]

For example the X360/PS3 version of Wolfenstein 3D is the best official way to play. And No Rest For the Living from DOOM II was an Xbox 360 exclusive for 2 years

Outside of id Software games OMORI and the original FNaF games are a significantly more polished time on console

[earnest matrix]

What do you mean by "best official way to play"?

[quasi silo]

It's the best official version by far. Comfortable controls, ability to look fluidly, achievements, leaderboards, an upgraded main menu and HD graphics

[earnest matrix]

"Ability to look fluidly" sounds highly dependent on what your PC specs are. If you had a bad experience on a sub-par PC then you could be perceiving the console version as best. Depends on where you're coming from.

[quasi silo]

Not a performance problem, the original PC version forced you to either use the keyboard to look around, which was fine but slow, or use the mouse, which was fast but also moved your character in the direction you were turning your mouse in, making it unpredictable

It's a 1992 DOS game, I think specs are unnecessary when it comes to such an old title. It can run on even more stuff than DOOM, it's just that people haven't tried :p

[earnest matrix]

Oh, I see what you're saying. My bad. I thought you were referring to "RTCW".

[quasi silo]

RtCW is more likely to run poorly yeah. Though my PC is amazing when it comes to pre-2012 games, only then do I need to drop from highest graphics settings and go slightly lower every few years of release. Luckily it's still a fine machine

I haven't really upgraded it as I have my Xbox to play more modern titles on. Though it's slowly getting less games so I am looking into upgrading it for an XSX in the near future

[coarse timber]

Why do some mods don't work on Dhewm3?

I wanted to play Perfect Doom 3 but I can only play it on Steam version

And the steam version for me it's laggy even tho Dhewm3 runs fine

[earnest matrix]

All mods that work on Dhewm3 are listed on their official website. They have to be compiled for compatibility with Dhewm3 so not all work.

[coarse timber]

Are there sourceports that let me play all mods?

Or is there something to fix performance issues on Doom 3 for Steam?

[scenic stratus]

gzdoom

[icy saddle]

… this is Doom 3

[scenic stratus]

doom is a 1.5D game

[solar bough]

That would be Doom 64.

[wraith pumice]

something seems off here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/488393514690805790/1356897626204799157/Screenshot_20250402_104535_YouTube.jpg?ex=67ee3ce4&is=67eceb64&hm=bb30813d82891862706236078024afc31c62e9e91106f480291c4a5d54ef64f0&

[frail plover]

is there only 3 official Doom 3 games (expansion packs or whatev)?

• Doom 3
• Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil
• Doom 3: The Lost Mission

[misty abyss]

yeah, base game and 2 expansions

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 bfg edition if it was good

[clear vapor]

Doom 3 withdout strap on flashlight feels really funny

Like space organization with years of experience cant have ductape thier lamps to thier soldiers and not to mention they know that the mars thing is supernatural

[scenic stratus]

still better than the shoulder mounted flashlight that runs out of battery after 4 seconds of use

[frail plover]

how do i put a mod (Duct Tape Mod) into my zip file of Doom 3

[earnest matrix]

So you played BFG edition first and are now going back to play through vanilla?

[scenic stratus]

that's exactly what hapepend with me

I played BFG Edition twice, then it turned out that a good friend of mine had a DOOM 3 copy for sale for OG Xbox, and I own an OG Xbox so I bought it for fun

[solar bough]

I may have heard that Doom 3 was originally planned to be just a full on remake of Doom 1 and 2 but they decided not to do that because the maps in Classic Doom just weren't good for that.

So they just made Doom 3 its own game instead, and potentially being a prequel to or at least taking place at the same time as Doom 1.

[clear vapor]

Yeah

But eh i say that the light offer a sense of dread witch i enjoy it just feels stupid

But Because you have a gun that can kill to most of the demons it kinda runied it

And that's why i liked bfg is less annoying and not the mention the flashlight is like broken because of the 4 second battery witch makes sense since well theres a demon invasion probably going to interfere whatever power source in the light

[coarse timber]

If only BFG Edition had skippable cutscenes...

[scenic stratus]

real

[earnest matrix]

It probably does on PC. I don't know about console versions though.

[coarse timber]

Is there a command in the console commands? If not I don't think it's possible

[quasi silo]

It doesn't have skippable cutscenes on PC aswell

[scenic stratus]

making cutscenes that used to be skippable unskippable feels like one of the most unnecessary and counter-productive design choices I can think of

[scenic stratus]

bfg bad

[scenic stratus]

I like bfg edition quite a bit actually

except for the unskippable cutscenes part like I said

i like it because uh

uh…………

[earnest matrix]

I don't get the whole reasoning behind it. I would be pissed if I had to watch a cut-scene multiple times. But you know the simple solution, at least in scome scenarios, would be to simply save your game after it plays. I would think that would be the last of it if you just loaded that save.

[solar bough]

Dhewm3 or CstDoom 3?

[scenic stratus]

I dunno I just enjoy it lol

[scenic stratus]

Yeah I do that too on BFG really.

[clear vapor]

Ok now thats a problem especially as someone who replays doom 3 on a daily basis

[earnest matrix]

How many times have you played through the full game?

[scenic stratus]

I cheered when I got all the achievements and proceeded to uninstall the game

[frail plover]

IM REALLY ENJOYING DOOM 3 IN ITS FIRST MINUTES

[fathom stag]

Hey you should go look in the mirrors in the bathrooms.

[frail plover]

is this a MyHouse.wad reference

[icy saddle]

No

[frail plover]

how do i get to Kelly

there's a passcode in marine command

oh nevermind i was in the wrong room

[fathom stag]

I actually don't know what it references to, I want to think it's silent hill but idk if that was released yet

[frail plover]

i experimented to see if npcs would react if i shot them, so i took a shot at D. Young and he died

i felt so bad i reloaded my save

[blissful flame]

They had it coming

[frail plover]

i honestly wasn't expecting my pc to run doom 3 so smoothly

like kudos

[earnest matrix]

What is your CPU and GPU or is it iGPU?

[frail plover]

i'll check later

[earnest matrix]

You're a gamer and you don't know by heart what CPU + GPU you have? 🙂

[frail plover]

mmm tbh i've never dabbled too much into that

didn't know it was supposed to be mandatory to know that

[earnest matrix]

It's not, it depends on the person. If your PC runs DooM 3 smoothly you probably have a fairly recent PC. Do you know how old your PC is?

[frail plover]

at least 6 years

we've had it since 2019, although Doom 3 has a merciful initial size of 3GB

[earnest matrix]

I could see DooM 3 running smoothly on a system that old even without a great GPU because the game will probably examine your system and setup things specific to your system so it doesn't look like you're playing DooM 3 in slow motion. 🙂

You give visual fidelity for speed.

[quasi silo]

The game is pretty old anyway, I am sure such a new PC can likely run it on highest without problems

[fathom stag]

Isn't doom 3 from 2005 💀

[quasi silo]

2004

[earnest matrix]

I don't think that's true though. It always comes down to the iGPU/GPU you have in your system for graphics.

[fathom stag]

Well no wonder it runs fine

[quasi silo]

Newer PCs are more likely to use better hardware because older hardware gets cheaper

You wouldn't sell a crap PC in this economy

[frail plover]

my experience so far is good: nice movement, good mouse sensitivity, stunning graphics...

[earnest matrix]

??? NVidia is charging a $1,000+ for some of their videocards and the funny part is, people are still buying them.

That's just the videocard, let alone the PC.

[frail plover]

my video card is bad to the point i can't even properly run SFM without having to see that stupid diagonal line

[fathom stag]

Yes that's the expense of raytracing graphics cards. They use precious metals and other really expensive materials.

[earnest matrix]

I've never heard that to be the reason for the insanely overpriced GPUs. Did older GPUs not use these precious metals also?

[fathom stag]

Yes, just in less amounts.

Plus, the economic crisis that's going on

[earnest matrix]

Can you make that statement more practical. It's kinda vague. What do you mean. How does the economic crisis cause GPU prices to skyrocket?

If there were an economic crisis where nobody had any money to spend then NVidia couldn't charge 1K+ for flagship videocards. Apparently, in spite of prices the demand is still there.

[fathom stag]

Okay, so due to the economic crisis that is existing in our current day and age, the materials of a gpu, one of which includes gold, are going up due to supply and demand. Therefore companies will need to charge higher costs to 1, make a profit, and 2, cover the costs that occur with precious materials.

[earnest matrix]

Okay, that I can understand. I know that the prices of gold/oz/pd are absolutely through the roof. So, the ray tracing capabilities require more trace amounts of gold? Don't they use copper mostly for electrical connections?

Copper is up in price also but it's about 1000x cheaper than gold per ounce.

[fathom stag]

No actually, gold is more commonly used in boards, it's rather interesting. Iirc copper is more of a industrial thing rather than for small electronics

[earnest matrix]

Well, consider me skooled, I learn new things all the time.

Everytime I read a discussion about GPU prices they have never mentioned justification of the inflated prices due to cost of gold. But maybe it's just not a well known issue.

[fathom stag]

I have random counter-arguments and facts abt things, it's one of the weirdest skills that I possess bar being able to balance anything on my head

[quasi silo]

I said older hardware though? How's their new prices a relevance?

[scenic stratus]

You went further than I did

I don't achievement-hunt really. When I beat BFG on Nightmare I thought 'ok that's enough for now for me'

I still enjoy the game a lot, far from my least favorite doom game. I just don't like 100%-ing games (unless the 100% achievements route is reasonable)

[earnest matrix]

How many times did you have to save the game playing on a Nightmare level or did you just use cheats?

[scenic stratus]

I don't usse cheats

And how many times i saved? About as many times as the amount of money Karl Jobst has lost recently.

[scenic stratus]

Aka I quicksaved quite a bit lmao

[earnest matrix]

I was gonna say, I don't know that I would have the patience to finish on Nightmare level. I had to save at least a 100x to finish on Level 2, whatever that is called, I forget. Maybe just "Normal".

[scenic stratus]

I also beat the first world of Quake 1 on Nightmare this morning. Not too bad, did not quick-save all that often but I still did it unfortunately

[earnest matrix]

I said 'I had to' but I guess if I wanted to drag it out I could have saved less often on the level I played.

You have a lot of experience with the id games, it sounds like. I've played the Quake series also.

[scenic stratus]

I'm not that experienced really

I have not even gotten near the Ultra-Nightmare grind that some people on this server have gotten into

[coarse timber]

Today I finished Doom 3 on my mobile phone, it wasn't that bad to play honestly

[earnest matrix]

It wasn't too bad? That sounds like forcing down a medicine you don't really want to be taking. 😮

I guess it's better than nothing though if you got some time to kill. Then that's the perfect way to do it.

[earnest matrix]

That's all well and good if it's all you have but the screen is just so small and no mouse?

I don't think I'd ever choose a phone over a console to play games. It's just not the same.

[frail plover]

what's the best screen size/aspect ratio for doom 3

[scenic stratus]

4:3

[clear vapor]

34

I cant count at this point

[unkempt crescent]

Close to platinuming Doom 3. Just need to do all campaigns on nightmare and collect stuff. Least Nightmare is more fun to play than Veteran.

[quasi silo]

Actually yeah, for me at least

[earnest matrix]

I'm finding that just a little bit hard to believe. 🤨

[heady vortex]

erebus levels complete, beat a hell hunter, off to phobos for my 1 level per day till tda

[carmine pine]

Love Doom 3

[earnest matrix]

What is it you love about the game?

[carmine pine]

The survival horror aspect of it and the era it came out along with Quake 4

[quasi silo]

You mean the engine, id Tech 4?

[carmine pine]

Yeah the engine it was used felt gritty and interesting

[misty abyss]

"survival horror"
you are armed to teeth

[solar spindle]

I like the weapons, the way the demons look and the story. Fighting the demons is enjoyable for me

[solar spindle]

No problem

lol

[earnest matrix]

Agreed, I like everything about it. The story, graphics are amazing for how old the engine is now. The weapons are all cool as hell, especially the gravity gun. It's been really enjoyable to play. Frustrating at times but they made it challenging.

[clear vapor]

Is alr

Doom 3 is just really good

The closest thing i replay that much is persona 3 portable

[earnest matrix]

If you finished that game 34x from beginning to end, wow, you must be an expert by now.

I'm lucky to finish any game once that is very challenging and takes a while to play through. I finished Quake 4 and then moved on to DooM 3.

So, I'm only on my first play through.

[clear vapor]

Probably am but i do suck at nightmare

I suck at health management at any game this because i keep forgeting that i have 25 health

[frail plover]

i experienced the mirror jumpscare

in the restroom

awesome

[earnest matrix]

Oh, I see. So, in the "nightmare" difficulty setting they only start you with 25 health...I didn't know that.

[quasi silo]

It starts you out at 100 but your health always periodically decreases to 25

[carmine pine]

The demons are in a survival horror game

[solar spindle]

Wait, without getting damaged by demons? Your health drops on its own?

[quasi silo]

Yes

[solar spindle]

Interesting interesting

[earnest matrix]

That is interesting. I've never heard of such a feature but then again I've never tried it. I know I'm not good enough to play at Nightmare levels without cheating in some way.

[quasi silo]

Nightmare also has two other tweaks; you start with the Soul Cube, and medkits are removed

[earnest matrix]

And what about health stations, none of those?

[quasi silo]

Those stay

[earnest matrix]

Thank God for that, they left you something to look forward too.

[quasi silo]

Enemies deal 350% damage too, I think compared to Marine

[earnest matrix]

That sounds like almost instant death.

[quasi silo]

With armor still being in place and the Soul Cube being unlocked from the start, it balances out

[frozen token]

1920x1080p

[frigid brook]

For me, it's the atmosphere (sound design) and the graphics that I love the most about Doom 3
Original from 2004 that is
Not a fan of the BFG Edition

And don't get me started on how easy to mod it is

[frail plover]

atmosphere is essential for horror, and the subtle jumps you get every time an imp appears, or the mirror jumpscare is timeless

[heady vortex]

Time for the first level of phobos labs in roe, im scared

[ornate light]

Feeling the urge to come back to D3 again

Might play with the D3HDP mod this time

[stuck bone]

guys i have a problem with my doom 3 bfg game on steam

🥹 🥲

[rocky mango]

What's the problem?

[scenic stratus]

and the lie?

[rocky mango]

Who remembers the doom movie level demo?

[woven flower]

Link please?

Oh, the Xbox demo of doom 3? I played that 20 times before I got the game 😆

[rocky mango]

Lol, I remember buying the collectors edition for xbox and it wouldn't work with my 360

[woven flower]

Yeah, Microsoft is a funny company.

Hopefully TDA works on series S 🥹

[quasi silo]

It will

[small gyro]

Just got the collectors edition box + game for 3

The only doom game I’ve never played

🥹

[ornate light]

Enjoy

[woven flower]

The best version of the best doom

[stuck bone]

The problem is just doom 3 bfg doesn't launch on steam but someone help me now is working 😊 sorry to bothering you👉🏼👈🏼

[rocky mango]

Delete the config file from the game, it should work

[icy saddle]

They just said it’s working now

[rocky mango]

Ok

[stuck bone]

For me, Doom 3 is an excellent Doom game that is certainly different from its other opuses but which has managed to have its place all the same. This Doom is more based on horror, narration and all the same it has its own mechanics and for a game from 2004, frankly, it hasn't aged a single day. 21 years old, it's still a good game even if it has its little flaws.🥰

Now its working don't worry The problem was that I had a second screen connected secretly. I think it was because of my graphics tablet when I connected it and then disconnected my PC must have kept it😅

[rocky mango]

Yeah, the og xbox release, especially the collectors edition was a surprise for people cuz the game was on 4 or 5 disc's

[heady vortex]

doom 3 complete for my 1 level per day till tda. I guess ill play doom 3 again when another doom game comes.

might be awhile

Off to Doom 2016

[frail plover]

thinking of changing my grenades bind to G for easier access

[frail plover]

the maggots make the imps look like angels

[ornate light]

Doom 3’s enemy designs go from vaguely alien looking (Hell Knight, Imp, Vulgar) to downright demonic with the maggots and cherubs

By far some of the most disturbing enemy designs in the series

[minor edge]

i wish cherubs would return but i can see why the modern games don't let you glory kill a baby

[frail plover]

maggots stole the title of "most annoying/scariest demon" from the imps

[ornate light]

I don’t think the cherubs really fit 2016/Eternal’s more alien design philosophy and TDA’s medieval look

If a horror focused doom is ever released again they’d fit right in though

[minor edge]

2016 is kinda horrorish idk

Definitely agree they don’t fit with Eternal or TDA tho

I mean just look at what they did to the Vagary in TDA lol the cherubs would be unrecognisable

[ornate light]

2016 has a horror flair but the demons are pretty much made to look like alien species

Cherub looks more magical in origin if I’m making sense here

[minor edge]

Yeah

[fathom stag]

Ik what you mean, given the whimsical meaning that word is associated with. However. They can use the term cherubim [like seraphim lmao]

[stoic quest]

guys I have bought doom 3 on steam I have played 2,4h and now they are asking me about some key in order to play the game, what's up with that

never mind, figured it out

[austere pelican]

The bruiser from RoE is one of my favourite designs in the series. Shame they could never get the original idea to work where he'd disguise as a normal monitor to scare the player

[austere pelican]

https://youtu.be/yPPHy1Az4v0?si=cxV5zWaTARL-cfUM

Squark

[tight hawk]

anyone know how to make the game not run in 4:3?

[scenic stratus]

r_mode -1
r_aspectRatio 1
r_customWidth 1920
r_customHeight 1080

[ornate light]

I used the dhewm3 bat file too so I didn’t mess up there

[frail plover]

today's doom 3 playthrough:

1. encountered my first spiders. i foresee that i will very much hate these guys 🙂
2. i got lost in the dark and strayed away from the main path, and then stumbled upon my first chaingun 😭
3. spent like 10 minutes playing with the crane and barrels

[austere pelican]

The chaingun intro is lit

[minor edge]

fr

[austere pelican]

https://youtu.be/4GxOEFf_vgU?si=_HNYP2xDHHFCZAQD

[austere pelican]

https://youtu.be/FkU8E-uUHZ0?si=eTDvU6g34Eh-SWrk

[drowsy kettle]

i dont bite

[austere pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/the-devil-doom-3-doom-the-devil-is-real-devil-gif-5588744477175181684

[scenic stratus]

"The devil is real..." Guy says while he and Doom3guy look unbothered lol

[austere pelican]

Just another day in the office

[quasi silo]

He probably thinks the guy is insane

[frail plover]

tbh i can see it on his face

"...bruh what is this guy on about?"

[austere pelican]

“I just wanted to play Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3, not get involved with this shit”

[frail plover]

he was still inevitably gonna be involved

he was just

1. more prepared (the other soldiers were too, but they weren't the main protags, which leads us to...)
2. plot armored
3. he has personally witnessed hell being unleashed

[austere pelican]

Worst first day at work ever

I wouldn’t be surprised if the UAC put him in confinement afterwards

[minor edge]

well he kinda just got lucky he was strong willed or whatever

lost souls couldnt do shit to him because he wasn't scared

also the uac audio logs and emails really hint at the fact that ||bertruger ||was making all of the personnel ill and like messed up before the invasion

so like him showing up for his first day unironically saved him because he missed all of the physical and mental illness that affected everyone else

[frail plover]

ahhhhh yeah.... can you ||spoiler tag|| any important plot points when you talk about them?

thanks

[austere pelican]

Bravo marine got really lucky, I think he was on the base from the beginning

[minor edge]

oh sorry

this isn't really that plot important tbh it's like in a couple emails

my bad tho 🙏

[frail plover]

it's fine

[minor edge]

he was also kind of a dickhead though

||it was all his fault||

resurrection of evil is a depressing fucking dlc when u actually take in what happens 😭

[austere pelican]

||Betruger thought it was mad funny||

[austere pelican]

https://youtu.be/ogG9LyiAT78?si=FgGvD5auiQMfvHlG

Interesting how ID decided to not use water in the final release

[meager wigeon]

Doom number 3

[meager wigeon]

Deviled boiled eggs are… real?!?!?!? 😱

[frail plover]

o my gosh i just survived 3 pinkies

[austere pelican]

Pick up the pace marine

[frail plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1362715829761736764/image.png?ex=68036783&is=68021603&hm=09e76ee8705d6ac33d4042a67913da3356a9c9134653c5e3f630641310344dd4&

the guy: open the door and get me out of here!

my dumass:

i pressed ACTIVATE CHAMBER and blatantly ignored OPEN CHAMBER im sorry 😭

[austere pelican]

https://youtu.be/Dwb1Dl6yepk?si=V8L6b7tWKphQGVOS

It’s Joe the Skeleton!

[frail plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1362719874685861951/image.png?ex=68036b48&is=680219c8&hm=fb21b94551052b1305a0d0089313aa5b01f866a5534171c1785d6f7a07fa3e33&

uhhh what should i do?

help

[austere pelican]

EFR system is a bit more difficult from what I remember

Are you playing regular doom 3 or BFG edition?

[quasi silo]

It's the OG DOOM 3

[scenic stratus]

Activate efr if you want to do some platforming

[frail plover]

at this rate i'm just savescumming doom 3

what's the thing that when picked up, the doom marine goes "ahh..." and his heartbeat starts going faster?

i've encountered it two times

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1362725233940758538/image.png?ex=68037045&is=68021ec5&hm=ed470f91cabdb61c235183e78b0999218b2d3d5ff155fab9f6766ebd7d642a45&

survived a Vagary...

barely.

[scenic stratus]

adrenaline

[frail plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1362727154147790948/image.png?ex=6803720f&is=6802208f&hm=86979ab5d3774c42f5f8ce1ba0aa50f1a0b96b9ef85eb87bdac2e6b2821cdaf9&

nooo

[scenic stratus]

It gives you unlimited stamina for 1 minute

[austere pelican]

Now you have the plasma gun
That reload sound…perfection

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[frail plover]

door code 972

[scenic stratus]

you can obtain the plasma rifle two levels prior

but there's a ton of plasma ammo on enpro plant so yeah

[frail plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1362728096071024682/image.png?ex=680372f0&is=68022170&hm=f501e287d807abac210a3770a121a696ebf9e9d80279d305ae8768c55446302f&

this is muh cell amount

[austere pelican]

https://youtu.be/0hX16WejJsI?si=RPQc__nPf5KJemL6

It’s just so good

[frail plover]

i'll hear it for myself

omygosh it is good

but the lost souls are just relentless to the point that i can't appreciate the sound

[austere pelican]

https://youtu.be/MaFoUCirE30?si=8sle6TqvDd6X0OpJ

[frail plover]

don't you think pinkies are pretty rare in the early levels?

[austere pelican]

Pinkies are rare throughout the entire game

That’s my biggest criticism of Doom 3, it doesn’t use the bestiary to its full extent

[frail plover]

like i'm thankful for that because they're big bullet sponges, but don't you think we could have gotten them more as regular enemies?

it constantly just spams imps, maggots, and machine gun soldiers at you

[scenic stratus]

there's a total of 19 pinkies through the whole game

according to the doom wiki

[frail plover]

on Marine difficulty?

[scenic stratus]

marine and veteran

16 on recruit

[frail plover]

oh

do they get more common in the later levels?

[scenic stratus]

not really

[frail plover]

cuz i'm getting kinda underwhelmed about the pinky action in D3, despite them having a killer intro

up until Empro Plant, i've only encountered like 5

[frail plover]

i love the security spider bots

they make cute R2D2 noises and they're an actual ally

[austere pelican]

In an email the workers are worried that they made the sentry bots too powerful lmao

[frail plover]

demons seem to target them, more noticeable with imps

so just so i'm more obligated to protect them, can they be destroyed?

[austere pelican]

With enough damage yes

[frail plover]

because if not, then i'd just let the demons attack them

alright, but they seem really tanky for a bunch of small guys, love em

[feral flax]

2 billion imps 5 pinkies 30 revenants

[austere pelican]

||there's even imps in the final fucking boss fight||

||ID should've used revenants, mancubi, cacodemons and archviles there, at least give the player a reason to use the BFG since the cyberdemon is invulnerable to everything except the soul cube. I believe a mod called Doom 3 Enhanced Edition does this and it makes the final boss much better.||

[ornate light]

Is doom 3 enhanced edition compatible with D3HDP?

[austere pelican]

Not sure. Redux isn't compatible.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3292611185

According to this guide it might be.

[ornate light]

Thanks, playing with both now

[tacit current]

I loved these videos in game

I played Doom 3 when I was about 11 or 10, these kept me calm whilst playing lmao

that and the plasma 3 reload sound was really satisfying

[red island]

For Doom 3, I read somewhere that there was a way to modify weapon statistics; is there a way to extract and re-pack the game aarchives for that?

I just want to modify the shotgun spread so it's not useless beyond 5 metres.

[scenic stratus]

you can open the pak000.pk4 with 7zip or winrar
look for the def folder > open weapon_shotgun.def with note pad and search for the “spread” line (line 91) and change the value to whatever you want
default is set to 22

[frail plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1363163386753450387/image.png?ex=68050855&is=6803b6d5&hm=dc991b6b53a1a723f4890ff65752da7f502514ec42c439eaf0f81f651f20d8b1&

what do i do from here

[austere pelican]

Go back the way you came

[frail plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1363166573552079159/image.png?ex=68050b4d&is=6803b9cd&hm=292ecdf27dd8ebb5c078fde09440cc5782881fc60fa7b75ebb7a09dedc56922d&

oooh

i'll reserve that for when i beat the main campaign

[fallow onyx]

is this the proper way to get librecoop to work with sikkmod?

start "" "dhewm3.exe" +set fs_game librecoop +set fs_game_base sikkmod

if so, how do i know whether both mods are running simultaneously or not

[frail plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1363460510279798794/image.png?ex=68061d0d&is=6804cb8d&hm=1121ec89186f58549745ab4fbc9157fa7ee7ac5bb742b5f51445c5483c45b881&

i'm sorry, Asian dude...

i couldn't save you

so i got the maintenance card thing, now where is the Comm Center?

[white barn]

DOOM 3 doesn't like human beings. The demons, the facilities and the outside environment wants you dead

And the staircases

[clear vapor]

Can xbox one play og doom 3?

[frail plover]

what's the difference between the og doom 3 and the bfg edition

[misty abyss]

In bfg edition you have flashlight on button press, chaingun fires slower, weapon muzzle flash no longer lits up the surroundings, some sections are cut, changes to lighting (haven't noticed these) and it has Lost Mission expansion

I played bfg edition with gamepad on steam deck hooked to tv, great experience overall

[earnest matrix]

@misty abyss I'm surprised at the revelation suggesting that the chaingun fires slower. I thought that DooM 3 BFG edition was all about making everything easier for the player who couldn't deal with the difficulties of the OG.

[misty abyss]

they doubled ammo you receive from pick ups too

[earnest matrix]

Ah yes, that would make the game much easier as well. Still odd to slow the chaingun down because I can tell you that speed matters in DooM 3 very much. Seconds save lives, your lives.

[misty abyss]

i agree that chaingun change is weird

[quasi silo]

No

[quasi silo]

DOOM 3 2004 also had a keybind for the flashlight though

[frail plover]

it's F

[clear vapor]

Man thats really sad i just recently finished replying bfg edition for the 47th time now but on the xbox one is there any way to play it alternatively withdout buying og Xbox

[quasi silo]

No

But you can buy an Xbox 360 instead

Or just get a shitty laptop

[frail plover]

hol on... am i playing bfg edition

[quasi silo]

Well what platform are you on

[frail plover]

i'm on Windows

[quasi silo]

What storefront

[ornate light]

Steam?

[frail plover]

i can't disclose that here sorry

[quasi silo]

Okay give us a screenshot

Of the game

[frail plover]

i currently can't, but i have a couple screenies in my disposal

[quasi silo]

Show us

[frail plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1363163386753450387/image.png?ex=68070295&is=6805b115&hm=e5604feced76a779bac624e00ab31b447d1e9fa5364ecd1f452f0a93500f4e28&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1362725233940758538/image.png?ex=680764c5&is=68061345&hm=9098f51a2a95ab3695a21ec9e29a921efb735a3e7f842d1ba4ce1a1261ab803f&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1362715829761736764/image.png?ex=68075c03&is=68060a83&hm=e1d54ebb0bb44121c82e51286b86f28de0ddb735d080c39bb4cbb6c1050f00f4&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1363460510279798794/image.png?ex=68076e8d&is=68061d0d&hm=226f82bd5ebabb34e62635f31edac548085189a90a726a7dfcb252653e746de5&

[quasi silo]

Okay yeah that's the OG then

[frail plover]

oh nice

thanks

[quasi silo]

No problem, happy to help

[clear vapor]

Eh maybe ill do that

I just wonder how is the xbox version

I heard the cut some things

[quasi silo]

You're better off getting it on PC

[austere pelican]

A lot of levels got trimmed down understandably but its still a good port. There's some minor fixes as well like removing the wraith spawns before they're introduced, etc

[clear vapor]

I dont like emulating ps2 era consoles dont know why

[frail plover]

Wraiths were supposed to be introduced killing the Asian guy?

[clear vapor]

But its worth as a different prective right?

[austere pelican]

Yeah, but they appear beforehand in the level ruining the moment lol

[quasi silo]

How's that related

[earnest matrix]

So, the upcoming release, which is the 3rd in the series of DooM 3 engine-based games is being sold as a "prequel" to the previous 2 releases?

Iow, TDA is being released as a prequel...

[rotund scaffold]

Hey guys!

Someone can help me with the Doom 3 multi-player achievements?

[earnest matrix]

I thought that the multiplayer was dead for OG DooM 3.

[rotund scaffold]

Well, it's for Doom 3 BFG edition

I saw that still working

[earnest matrix]

That's basically OG "era".

[rotund scaffold]

Oh

[earnest matrix]

BFG is based on the OG, just an easier version for people who couldn't hang with the toughness of the OG.

[rotund scaffold]

For me it's just because I have to pick the BFG version, cuz I only have a Xbox 360

[earnest matrix]

Oh interesting. So, that's the only version that works on your platform. Yes, I think I remember AnomeQ talking about that.

I'm on the master platform, aka, the PC. 🙂

[rotund scaffold]

Lol

[earnest matrix]

Of course, that depends on how old one's PC is. But I have a "fairly" capapble system. Not bleeding edge but not 10 years old either.

[rotund scaffold]

You know if someone has this version?

[earnest matrix]

Probably lots in here. I've seen them talk about it. AnomeQ probably knows a lot about it.

[rotund scaffold]

I really liked the game, and want to do all achievements

[rotund scaffold]

Oh, that's good

[earnest matrix]

Yes, I love the game. I've finished the vanilla and the expansion, RoE. Dope as hell.

[rotund scaffold]

Did Nightmare mode?

[earnest matrix]

Nooooooo, I don't want life to be that hard for me. I played both through on 2nd easiest I guess. "Normal", I forget what they call it.

Whatever, the default level is that the game gives you. I did that.

But I played it straight through to the end, legit, no cheats or cheat codes or any of that crapola.

[rotund scaffold]

So I am a madman, because I did on this hell mode

[earnest matrix]

Which one is that, hardest or next to hardest and you didn't use cheat codes?

[rotund scaffold]

I didn't even know that this game had cheats

[rotund scaffold]

I did the nightmare mode

[earnest matrix]

If you can get to a console, like you can on PC versions, then you can enter cheat codes. I don't know if it's possible on XBox.

[rotund scaffold]

Probably not

[earnest matrix]

I think I remember somebody saying they disabled ability to get to the console on the platforms. It makes sense. People buy those for mostly playing games, unlike a PC, which does everything under the sun.

[rotund scaffold]

Yeah, but you know who I can talk to get help?

[earnest matrix]

Yeah, the same person I've mentioned twice now. 🙂 But I don't know his schedule. I would just send him a PM or wait to see him in here.

[rotund scaffold]

I have the others doom too, so a help for this game would be great too

[rotund scaffold]

Okay

[rotund scaffold]

Hey, probably tomorrow by the morning I come back to talk with you about that

See ya

[clear vapor]

You said play it on pc?

Im sure that requires emulation

[quasi silo]

The original version is on PC natively

[rotund scaffold]

Hey

Someone online rn?

[frail plover]

hi

[austere pelican]

Doom 3 fans

All 10 of them

[ornate light]

if Doom 3 has a million fans, i am one of them. if Doom 3 has ten fans, i am one of them. if Doom 3 has only one fan, then that is me. if Doom 3 has no fans, that means i am no longer on earth. if the world is against Doom 3, i am against the world

[frail plover]

i'm the 4th

[earnest matrix]

I see 10 Bethseda users, I don't think they are fans, more like employees maybe.

[earnest matrix]

Did you finish expansion also, what platform did you play on?

[austere pelican]

Literally me

[rotund scaffold]

Hey there guys, I know this chat it's for the original Doom 3, and sorry for bringing Doom 3 BFG Edition to this topic, but someone here has this Doom 3 version? I need help with the multi-player achievements, if someone it's interested, please reply me, thank you.

[quasi silo]

This chat isn't for any version specifically

[rotund scaffold]

I thought that was exclusively for the OG Doom 3

You know someone that has this version? I tried to connect to multi-player, but didn't found any lobby

[swift delta]

No, this chat encompasses all versions of Doom 3.

BFG Edition isn't very active anymore.

It maybe has 70 people playing, and there's no guarantee any of them are in multiplayer.

[rotund scaffold]

Okay, I wanted to know someone that has this version to play with, if somebody knows someone that has this version, please inform me

[ornate light]

I played RoE and Lost Mission

I’m on PC

Though I do have D3 on my PS5 as well

But PC is the platform I usually play on

[clear vapor]

Im specifically talking about the xbox version

[quasi silo]

You never specified that

[scenic stratus]

I dunno how easy Xbox emulation is

I am not gonna go into it and anything that may involve piracy. If I wanna play Xbox DOOM 3 I'll just use the OG Xbox, which I do own

[quasi silo]

Or you can use the Xbox 360

[scenic stratus]

true

[quasi silo]

Or just run an emulator but make it read from the disc you bought

[meager wigeon]

Doon 3🥀 🥀 🥀

(What is the emoji limit)

[frail plover]

1️⃣ 2️⃣ 3️⃣ 4️⃣

4 emojis is the limit

[rose robin]

goon 3

[frail pawn]

should i buy doom 3 and wait for darkages

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-cacodemon-gif-26438882

[frail plover]

doom 3 is awesome, i suggest experiencing it before TDA

[frail pawn]

tru

but new gam is new gam

[clear vapor]

Buy doom 3 in every single console that runs it

And get addicted to replaying it

[frail plover]

where is Comm Center located from Empro Plant

i'm just hopelessly wandering in the darkness

[misty gate]

bro who tf likes doom 3😭

[quasi silo]

People who've actually played it

[austere pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/here-have-this-doom-3-trailer-e3-grenade-gif-2017822753097025467

[quasi silo]

How much are you willing to bet that opinion is from a youtuber?

[scenic stratus]

Me

[misty gate]

d33m

[scenic stratus]

k

[austere pelican]

Did Civvie like it? I never watch his vids so

[quasi silo]

I'm not sure, I don't watch him much too

[misty abyss]

he actually does

[toxic pecan]

When will doom 3 get its deserved remaster

doesnt change the fact doom 3 NEEDS a remaster

[scenic stratus]

fair enuff

I'm not knowledged on emulation at all lol

[meager wigeon]

Doom tree🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[toxic pecan]

people who hate on doom 3 have never played it

[scenic stratus]

Honestly? DOOM 3, as outdated as it looks in places... it still looks fine. Modern BFG edition is all I need now, no remaster needed for me lol

[meager wigeon]

I have

[toxic pecan]

yeah but the potential is there for an amazing remaster

[meager wigeon]

And I hate most of it

[scenic stratus]

Well... that remaster went well lol

[toxic pecan]

youre just a hater

[scenic stratus]

It's ok to dislike doom 3 lol

I say this as someone who does like it, mostly

[meager wigeon]

Wrong

I like parts of it

Such as the demons

But the codes are HARD to crack

[toxic pecan]

what codes, the lockers?

[meager wigeon]

Yuh

[toxic pecan]

you just look on the pdas or if you cant find it just search them up

[meager wigeon]

and every pda I’ve gotten (aside from 2) have not had the code

[meager wigeon]

I did

[toxic pecan]

the emails and audio logs

there is a whole guide of all codes on the internet if youre too lazy to listen to 1 minute of audio

[meager wigeon]

I though the same

[toxic pecan]

Doom 3 remaster 🗣️

Bethesda wouldnt allow that in a million years

Yeah but im thinking like on a more grander scale

like completely redo the whole game

yeah mb it gets confusing

doom and horror really works in my opinion

tbh its not like its happening anyway

there are like 4 fans worldwide

[austere pelican]

DOOM 3 FANS LES GOOO

[toxic pecan]

yeah but the flashlight

[toxic pecan]

🔥

no its 2016

doom 3 was when it released

https://tenor.com/view/the-devil-doom-3-doom-the-devil-is-real-devil-gif-5588744477175181684

not enough for anything to happen

[scenic stratus]

skill issue tbh

[meager wigeon]

Skill issue in the big 25🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 get a better roast

You know what

Get a job 🥀 🥀 🥀

[scenic stratus]

pretty sure you were one of those that said that unironically during eternal era lmao

[meager wigeon]

Nope

Only 3 messages there

[austere pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-3-doom-marine-shotgun-pump-gif-1631776511660863694

[minor edge]

No you’re just straight up wrong

Doom 3 is the second best selling game and Eternal is the new best selling game

Doom 2016 sold 1.5 million less copies than Doom 3

[scenic stratus]

Whats the first?

[minor edge]

?

[swift delta]

Eternal has the highest number of copies sold, with Doom 3 behind it.

[scenic stratus]

Nvm i cant read

[toxic pecan]

ok i just checked and i was wrong, its eternal, 2016 and then doom 3

[minor edge]

you're still wrong

[toxic pecan]

im not

[minor edge]

doom 3 sold more than 2016

it was a more successful game commercially

[toxic pecan]

doom 3 sold 3.5m copies while 2016 sold 5.5m copies

[swift delta]

2016 sold 2 million copies by 2017. Doom 3 is at 3.5 million copies sold.

3.5 million is a larger number than 2 million.

[scenic stratus]

based Doom 3 as always

[minor edge]

3.5 million copies sold was how much had sold by 2007*

[scenic stratus]

shame midternal beat it

[toxic pecan]

key word 2017

[minor edge]

it's likely a much larger number by now

the only numbers we have for Doom 2016's sales past 2018* are speculation

and the numbers we have for Doom 3's sales past 2007 are speculation

however that's still a comparison of how both games were doing 2 years past their launch

and Doom 3 was at 3.5 million whilst Doom 2016 was in the 2 million range

Eternal was the first Doom game to outsell Doom 3 within a Doom game's initial launch range

[scenic stratus]

unsazed

[toxic pecan]

We can only speculate

especially since all the figures are PC only

[swift delta]

Doom 3 is sitting at a pretty comfortable ~4-5m, including the Steam re-release as well as BFG Edition.

Figures not PC only, figures are all platforms.

[toxic pecan]

nearly every source i have seen says PC or Steam sales

[swift delta]

Your sources are not good.

[toxic pecan]

wikipedia is not good anymore?

[swift delta]

Wikipedia isn't updated properly.

It's basing its information of the initial release, not counting the subsequent re-releases which still factor into the total.

Doom 3 out-sold 2016 by a hell of a margin.

It is the second most commercially successful doom game produced by id.

[toxic pecan]

random articles are not updated at all

and new information about doom 3 has definitely not been released in a decade

[minor edge]

Why did Doom 3 add the Hell Knight and not the Baron of Hell when the Hell Knight acts more like the Baron?

Given it has roughly the same number of hitpoints as a Baron and two of them show up at a teleporter like the Bruiser Brothers.

https://doomwiki.org/w/images/5/52/Birdie.jpg

Apparently this was meant to be the Baron???

[frail plover]

i really like how the grenades look like jars

"ok patrick, take a jar"

...

"patrick that's a grenade"
"yes"

and you kinda twist the lid to activate it

[sonic chasm]

ah yes

birdman

[ornate light]

D3HDP lets you replace HK models with Birdman

Pretty cool tbh

[amber juniper]

Fun fact. Did you know Theresa Chasar is voiced by Grey Delisle? Same actress of Azula?

[scenic stratus]

this game looks like doom shat out by a indie horror game franchise and then had a baby with cod absolute DOG SHIT

[misty abyss]

incorrect statement

[austere pelican]

Imagine getting this angry over a game you’ve never played

[frail plover]

☝️

ˢʰʰʰʰʰ

[minor edge]

loud incorrect buzzer

[frail plover]

it's ok

we know you're insanely wrong

[amber juniper]

What do you guys think? Did you know that?

[frail plover]

i did not know

who Grey Delisle or Azula is

[scenic stratus]

Skill issue tbh

[ornate light]

Does anyone know how to reduce that glistening type of effect D3HDP has on the edges of its textures?

It’s really noticeable and has been kind of bugging me

[lapis tundra]

Guys

I have the doom 3 alpha

[lapis tundra]

It’s very different

[austere pelican]

How did you get the alpha?

[quasi silo]

It leaked in 2003 iirc

You can find it on the same website the HL2 Beta is on

[austere pelican]

Huh

I like the unused water effect, some custom maps use it

[lapis tundra]

Graphics are weird

When you shoot anything black marks appear around the enemy

I wish I could play the alpha in VR

That would be sweet

[austere pelican]

There’s an unused stealth mechanic right?

[lapis tundra]

I could link it to you

[lapis tundra]

No

[austere pelican]

Ah

[lapis tundra]

Not that I know of

[austere pelican]

That must’ve just been e3 showcase stuff

[lapis tundra]

It’s the E3 alpha 0.0.2

[lapis tundra]

Probably

It was scrapped in later showcases I think

It’s fun but laggy

Maybe cause “dynamic shadows”

Which are pitch black in the alpha

[minor edge]

The pinky mirror bit 🔥🔥

[lapis tundra]

That part is crazy

I heard at the end the Marine’s head gets eaten by a hell knight

I haven’t got that far, cause the difficulty is upped substantially

[severe anchor]

playing doom 3 for the first time, I dont understand why this game gets so much hate. Its definitely the most unique game of the series by a long shot but treating this as its own thing made me enjoy it a ton. As a massive fan of half-life, it lowkey does feel a bit too similar to that game ill admit

[misty abyss]

people who hate it are usually ones who only played the new Doom games

[wide basin]

i played eternal first and i loved 3, feels like dead space and a little bit of half life

[minor edge]

It does feel very Half Life lol

I think Doom 3 is a pretty natural extension of Doom though given the games preceding it were literally Doom PSX, Final Doom PSX and Doom 64 tho

Like yeah it’s a horror game but so were the last 3

[austere pelican]

Horror Doom my beloved

[minor edge]

Also the second half of Doom 3 and Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil are just action shooters let’s b real

[wide basin]

I'm still at the first part of the game

[minor edge]

My favourite part tbh

First and second levels with all the chaos going on over the radios and all the NPCs

[minor edge]

yea!!

Classic Doom always had horror elements especially with Doom 64

It sounds silly NOW but when Doom 1 released people actually did find it scary😭

It has Aliens/Evil Dead 2 roots, it’s meant to be a horror/action blend and Doom 3 is that

[wide basin]

every time i think of doom 1 i think of that one clip of bill gates greenscreening himself into a gameplay vid of it

https://tenor.com/view/bill-gates-doom-2-demons-first-person-fps-gif-8664938792663647667

[minor edge]

HEAT…

[upper island]

Playing doom 3 for the first time

Seems quite unbearable because of the flashlight

[scenic stratus]

im going to act like the average doom eternal fan and say to you

skill issue lmao xd

[minor edge]

It’s really not that big of a deal tbh

I didn’t really struggle with it

The muzzle flash did enough for me

[frail plover]

for me, i don't really have a problem with flashlight toggle

just use flashlight out of combat, and quickly press F to switch back to your active weapon

[misty abyss]

there's bfg edition that has flashlight on button instead of separate weapon slot

[scenic stratus]

I'm not the only one who prefers it that way

Imo separate flashlight doesn't make it more tense for me, it just makes it annoying

Slapping enemies with it is very fun tho

[austere pelican]

2145 didn’t have duct tape technology yet

[clear vapor]

Bruh i know right but i always make headcanons like the demons took the bulit in flashlight or something

[errant tundra]

https://youtu.be/1S79gmie1Qo?si=sDyodfWnHJ7sgZiN

[quasi silo]

This looks cool but I hate how it's stretched

I would've liked a proper 4:3 aspect ratio

[modest ore]

Wow, people still play the multiplayer mode of Doom 3? The last time I tried to play it, it's a ghost town.

Hopefully, there will be another version of Doom 3 for modern systems that included multiplayer.

[outer hare]

yall give me some peak doom 3 mods

while i wait for TDA

[minor edge]

doom 3 phobos is pretty good i hear

[ivory dove]

Boy should you have plays half life 1 and it’s expansions. The flashlight is an absolute pain

[strong tiger]

Toggeling flashlight takes some getting use to, but its enjoyable once you get it down. I actually like hitting fodder zombies with the flashlight.

[frail plover]

i'm too chicken to even get in melee range of a zombie

i just delete them with the shotgun and they're the least of my worries

(mainly cuz i can't melee shit at all)

wait. chicken... zombie.....

[scenic stratus]

I got into their melee range a lot on OG Xbox, two-shotting them with the flashlight is fun. Tho it's mostly useful in early game when there's not much enemies around, and you get the chainsaw later on which is very good for melee

I killed a DOOM 3 archvile with a chainsaw. Granted Archies in D3 aren't as intimidating as in other games but still.

[fickle hazel]

Anybody else like the shotgun in game

[frail plover]

yeah

it has a punchy sound, and it can oneshot imps and maggots in point blank range

though shells are easy to burn through

[woven flower]

i like how it reloads 2 shells at a time

[craggy dirge]

It’s horror game not doom from what I’ve played so far

[scenic stratus]

I can like it quite a bit yeah

Although I noticed getting one-shots is much easier on BFG edition than on OG Xbox edition. On the latter I never one-shot an imp once with the shotgun but on the former I could get it quite a bit

[fickle hazel]

Horror is what makes Doom

PS1 port laid the foundation for it

[scenic stratus]

And DOOM 64 also leaned into it pretty well

[fickle hazel]

PS1 laid the foundation and Doom 64 really kicked it off

[misty abyss]

Amazingly terrible shotgun, the only redeeming quality is the damage

[quasi silo]

The original game laid the foundation, then PS1 kicked it off imo

[frail pawn]

Steam or xbox

[quasi silo]

Xbox version has no MP. Steam is the first modern version with MP, Gameman wants another

[frail pawn]

Flint an steel

[quasi silo]

?

[modest ore]

I really do. I miss the days when shooters have a balance of good single player and good multiplayer. Nowadays, it's one or the other.

[scenic stratus]

Does anyone of you play Doom 3 online?

[clear vapor]

The servers are dead if im not mistaken

But i played open coop

[scenic stratus]

I have 4 servers displayed in my server list

[livid matrix]

I modded DOOM 3 to make it really hard a long time ago and it was so much better. Sadly I never posted the mod online. Took me months

Also there was a glitch I couldn't figure out and it made the Cyberdemon invulnerable. Soul cube could not do damage to it lol

[tepid stump]

Cacodemon from doom 3 looks odd.

[livid matrix]

Doom 3 was, something. I enjoyed it but mostly because it was so easy to mess with the files

[sonic chasm]

I must finish doom 3

[sonic chasm]

its something tbh

doom 3 feels like most demons are very messed up human experiments

[tepid stump]

Fr

[scenic needle]

spooky scary doomy

[wind viper]

But then you'll always get that one wise guy that'll claim that it isn't scary.

[scenic needle]

and then he shits in his pants when it plays the original doom 3

[hardy canyon]

Does anyone enjoy doom three I haven’t finished it, but I heard it’s pretty bad

[minor edge]

i think it's goated

[scenic stratus]

pretty bad take ngl

[halcyon vessel]

doom 3 fire

[zinc yew]

I love doom 3

[scenic stratus]

it's not bad

I like it really

[ornate light]

Doom 3’s gameplay and level design is fairly mediocre but it has great vibes, so overall I like it

[frosty holly]

If you havent arrived in hell yet, youre in for a treat.
DOOM 3 has the best iteration of hell IMO

[ornate light]

Probably an unpopular opinion but for me it’s a tie between classic 1993 Doom and 2016’s Hell levels, but Doom 3’s is pretty good too.

I’ve played through the game before, just replaying the BFG edition for achievements

[frosty holly]

ahh i see

[misty abyss]

It isn't honestly , there's good atmosphere but its hard to get scared when you're armed to teeth and have sixty billion bullets

[ornate light]

The game definitely surprises you sometimes

But it’s not laden with tension

[hard skiff]

a lot of peoples main reason they hate doom 3 is because its not doom 2016

there are some fair criticisms like the tone and genre change, the BFG vs Original release, and story

[azure shoal]

I think I'm at like 200 shells for the shotgun

I'm in it for the ambience and tone

Haven't reached hell yet

[ornate light]

Lately I haven’t really been able to enjoy the game as much

[azure shoal]

I can sense it's an acquired taste

[ornate light]

I think because the vibe starts to become lost on me after the first level and I’m just left with the mediocre gameplay

Like honestly

[azure shoal]

It's my first time playing anyway

I do think the lack of variety is annoying

[ornate light]

I would unironically enjoy a game that’s just a life sim of the Mars base more if I’m just looking for vibes

[azure shoal]

There's like 4 alpha labs

It's not a big issue tho

[woven flower]

Doom 3 is one of my favorites. But in a recent playthrough I had to stop and pick up 2016.

[spark jolt]

#doom-3

[scenic stratus]

doom 3 doomguy my beloved

[finite pond]

@scenic stratus How is DOOM 3 canon ?

[scenic stratus]

It's set in an alternate Earthly Realm, but involving the same Hell.

[finite pond]

oki thanks !

[scenic stratus]

the same hell but the hottest side of it (in more ways than one)

DOOM 3's hell is stunning

[glossy hull]

YO

[deft bone]

doom 3 was underrated imo

actually was a fun game

[azure shoal]

I'm still playing thru it

I just wanna go to hell already😭 🙏

[deft bone]

same

that one imp level is already hell

[dusk crane]

I liked Ultra-Violence on that one a lot. Felt like it added a lot of tension to that game. I remember some of RoE and Lost Levels being very tough.

[wind viper]

I love Doom 3, I love how it dared to be different. The PDA system was so cool and the accompanying robot drones were brilliant too, and I liked how they had the health terminals attached to the walls. I miss the sound effects too when I'm not playing it.

[dusk crane]

Yeah even though it's the black sheep in the series, I enjoyed it a lot. I love survival horror games and Doom mixed them both. However I am happy Doom 4 became 2016 Doom.

But,

On that same note I think it would be cool if there was like a spinoff to Doom where you play as like a normal person and that game was more slow paced survival horror like Doom 3 was.

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 isnt survival horror

[jolly cape]

i lump DOOM 3 and F.E.A.R. into a group of two that hit a certain unrepeated style that was a kind of light horror FPS. no other games really did it again, maybe F.E.A.R. 2 a little

[strong tiger]

I do

I like action-horror titles more for there atmosphere.

[jolly cape]

i still wonder how DOOM 4 the Call of Doom would have been. not really any games in that bracket lol

[dusk crane]

It looked very similar to Doom 3 from what I remember. Setting reminded me a lot of Doom II cause there were infested cities and there were survivors you could run into and help.

I think

I was a little kid when that game was in development so I’m probably confusing it.

[woven flower]

Probably a lot like Rage

[sage agate]

Its mostly cannon to the original doom games. But doom 3 is 21 years old now.

[quasi silo]

It has no real ties to the original DOOM games if we isolate them

And age isn't relevant for that

[sage agate]

But whose the marine name in doom 3 since he doesn't has one and always been silent.

[quasi silo]

He is called John Kane in the novels

[sage agate]

Not gonna lie the assault rifle from doom 3 reminds me of halo combat evolved one.

[viral briar]

The Halo AR itself takes inspiration from Aliens.

[misty abyss]

reminds me of Marathon 2/Infinity AR more

[solar bough]

Is there really any reason to play BFG Edition besides that it’s the only version available for consoles?

[quasi silo]

If you want to experience a different look on things yes

Despite how most people shit on it all the time, its major changes are subjective

[eager mauve]

A technical question: What are the commands to give info_emails, like the one for Super Turbo Turkey Puncher? I've tried, for example, highScore o turkeyScore, but it doesn't show up in the PDA.

And another one: can you give me an example of how to use the playerModel command, with valid Models?

[timid forge]

question about doom 3

i noticed while playing the game doom guy keep hearing a woman screaming and a baby crying

can anyone explain ?

[minor edge]

just creepy ambience

[timid forge]

so really deep dark lore 😦 ?

[misty abyss]

No deep dark lore, just hell bullshit

[solar bough]

The "different look" isn't even that good.

[deft bone]

yea i like the difference, and the cutscenes were great and the shotgun in doom 3 is the best.

[quasi silo]

Wow sorry for the double ghost ping it's not letting me send the message link :p

[quasi silo]

Here's what I was trying to link, Sixteen60

[wind viper]

I'd imagine it would feel similar to Metro and Terminator Resistance.

[jolly cape]

I would like to think it would be like if a CoD campaign in which demons suddenly dropped in and humans had to fight back with modern weaponry

[solar bough]

Anyone tried CstDoom3 (OG and BFG Edition)?

[deft bone]

"right.. your the control, and if that fails im the damage"

[low basin]

Any one else see the resemblance between Doom guy in this game and Freddie Mercury

[scenic stratus]

monster properties in doom 3 editors disassembled

noDamage - if it is 1, then the enemy is invulnerable and does not receive damage

ambush - if it is 1, then the enemy will wake up and start attacking the player when he sees him in his field of vision. He will ignore the player's shots behind his back. If it is 0, then the enemy will immediately react to the player's shots and start attacking.

enemy - this parameter specifies the name of the enemy that the enemy with this parameter will attack. There will be a general battle between enemies and you can watch it from the side. When someone dies in the fight, the surviving enemy will attack the player. During the battle, enemies ignore the player until he shoots at them.

teleport - if it is 1, then the enemy will initially be hidden and not visible in the game. You need to trigger it and then it will appear in the pentagram teleport. If 0 or no parameter is set, the enemy is immediately visible in the game.

wakeup_target - the name of different entities that the enemy will trigger if it sees the player immediately is written.

attack_path - if 1 is set, and the enemy was triggered or woken up by shots, it will walk along the route arranged in the form of Path_corner, they must be connected sequentially by links and the enemy will walk along this linear route. When the enemy reaches the final point of the route, it will stop. If the enemy sees the player while moving along the route, it will forget its route and will attack the player. Note that if the enemy sees you before it starts walking along its route, it will immediately start attacking the player.

stay_on_attackpath - if 1 is set, the enemy will ignore the player while following the route with the attack_path parameter enabled until it reaches the end of its route. He will even ignore damage received from the player until he has completed the entire route.

anim - the name of the animation that the enemy will play at the beginning of the game. You can select animations in the list below and press Play to play it, the slider shows the current frame of the animation.

num_cinematics - if set to 1, then this enemy will be used in cinematics or cutscenes, during the game this enemy will be hidden until the cutscene starts.

(this parameter is not fully analyzed, so there is no more information on it)

cinematic_no_hide - if set to 1, then in the game the enemy used in the cutscene will be visible in the game itself after the cutscene or before it starts.

on_activate - the name of the animation that the enemy will play if triggered or sees the player or takes damage from him is written. If you write blank in this parameter, then the enemy will immediately start attacking the player, and will not roar first.

on_activate_blend - (this parameter is not parsed, so there is no information on it)

trigger_anim - the name of the animation is written, initially the enemy will be hidden until it is triggered. After triggering, it will appear, play the animation specified in this parameter and then start attacking the player. This parameter differs from on_activate in that the enemy will be hidden before triggering, and in on_activate it is immediately visible before triggering and playing the animation specified in on_activate.

wake_on_attackcone - the name of the entity with the ai_attackcone type is written, the entity itself is similar to a cone. If the player gets into the cone area itself, the enemy will immediately wake up and start attacking the player. The cone is similar to surveillance cameras or spotlights until they spot you.

walk_on_trigger - if set to 1, then after triggering on an enemy, it will start following the route from Path_corner, but before triggering, the enemy will not notice the player and will not touch him until he takes damage from him and does not come close to him. The parameter differs from attack_path in that before triggering, the enemy will not touch the player, and in attack_path it will immediately start attacking if he notices him.
(you cannot additionally use the attack_path or trigger parameters for this parameter).

ignore_flashlight - if set to 1, then the enemy will not react to the player if he shines a flashlight in his back. If set to 0 or there is no parameter, then it will and will immediately turn around.

trigger - if set to 1, then the enemy will not notice the player until he takes damage from him or comes close to him or is not triggered. If the attack_path parameter is used, the enemy will also not notice the player until he takes damage from him or comes close to him. If he is triggered, he will already go along his route, but if he notices the player, he will forget about the route and start attacking the player. The trigger parameter differs from walk_on_trigger in that the trigger parameter does not necessarily need to have a route from Path_corner, but walk_on_trigger is required, otherwise it will not work.
(you cannot additionally use the walk_on_trigger parameter with this parameter).

hide - if 1 is set, the enemy will initially be hidden until triggered and then immediately appear. The parameter differs from teleport in that during the appearance and triggering, a pentagram teleporter does not appear, but the enemy appears immediately.

spawner - the parameter specifies the maximum number of enemies that can appear at one point. If you do not use the teleport parameter, then when triggering occurs, the enemy immediately appears without a pentagram teleport. If the enemy that appeared from the point is alive, and you trigger it again, then the next one will appear until the limit specified in the spawner parameter is reached. This parameter allows you to create constant enemy spawns from one point up to a certain number. However, after the maximum limit and killing some enemies, if you trigger again, then the enemies will reappear while the trigger works. So you can create as many appearances of the same type of enemies as you like or implement an infinite appearance with the ability to stop it later.

spawn_target - the name of the enemy entity that will appear if the enemy with the spawner parameter enabled is killed is written.

no_idle_chatter - if set to 1, then the enemy in a calm state will not make any sounds.

walk_on_sight - if set to 1, then when the enemy sees the player or hears shots, he will first start walking towards the player, and then attack him.

target - a list of entities that will be triggered after the death of the enemy. In other words, after death, the enemy sends a signal from itself to all entities that are specified sequentially in target1, target2, etc.

wander - (this parameter is not parsed, so there is no information on it)

wait - the time in seconds that the enemy will stand and wait after which it will start following the route. The enemy will not notice the player, even when it receives damage from him, until the waiting time specified in the wait parameter expires.

neverdormant - (this parameter is not parsed, so there is no information on it)

ignore_obstacles - (this parameter is not parsed, so there is no information on it)

alt_path1, alt_path2, alt_path3 - (this parameter is not parsed, so there is no information on it)

noshadows - if set to 1, the enemy will have shadows disabled.

animate_z - if set to 1, then when using animation from the on_activate parameter, the enemy will have gravity disabled, thereby allowing him to animate in the air, walk on walls or on the ceiling. If the animate_z parameter is disabled, then when using on_activate, the enemy will not hang in the air during the animation.

kick_force - (this parameter is not parsed, so there is no information on it)

team - the enemy's team affiliation number is written. If several enemies have different team values, they will be hostile and attack each other. If several enemies have the same team values, they will be allies and on the same team. If the team value is 0 for enemies, they will be friendly to the player until he starts shooting at them.

rank - the enemy (1) will start attacking his ally (2) of his team, that is, when they have the same team value, if the enemy (2) accidentally hits his ally (1), who has a higher rank parameter. If the rank parameter is 0, he will not resist and attack. If the enemy's (1) rank is lower than his ally (2), he will not start attacking his ally (2), if he (2) accidentally deals him (1) damage. If the enemy's team value is 0 and the rank is also 0, the enemy will be completely friendly to the player and will not start attacking him if he receives damage from the player.

turn_rate - the parameter is responsible for the speed of rotation of the enemy, the value is entered in degrees, if the value is small, the enemy will slowly turn towards the player, attacking him and missing, if the value is large, it will turn quickly.

mass - the parameter is responsible for the mass of the enemy, if you set it to 0, then when killing the enemy, it will suddenly disappear, if you set a small value less than 10, then when shooting at the enemy, it will fly away.

num_projectiles - the number of simultaneously flying projectiles that the enemy attacks with is written, if the value is very large, then there will be a very large charge and the fps will drop

projectile_spread - the parameter is responsible for the spread along the trajectory of the projectiles that the enemy throws. If it is 0, then the enemy will throw a projectile at the player accurately. If you set a very large value, then the enemy will always miss and throw his projectile to the side.

attack_accuracy - the parameter is responsible for the accuracy of the projectile hitting the player from the enemy. If it is 0, the enemy will throw the projectile directly at the player accurately, if you set a very large value, the enemy will always throw it to the sides past the player. The parameter is identical to the projectile_spread parameter and can be used together with attack_accuracy.

attack_cone - (this parameter is not parsed, so there is no information on it)

melee_range - is responsible for the distance at which the enemy deals melee damage to the player. If you set 0 or a small value, the enemy will not attack melee at all, but will only approach the player closely.

gravityDir - changes the direction of gravity for the enemy, meaning he can move along walls and ceilings, as if the game space in which the enemy is located was turned upside down, and the floor became the ceiling, and the ceiling became the floor.

[broken siren]

I aint reading allat

[solar bough]

CstDoom3-BFG is the best way to play BFG Edition IMO. You can just undo all the bad things BFG Edition includes, and still have the benefits it implements like better framerates.

[high terrace]

Even though it's not lore accurate is it still worth playing?

Because I started it but once I realized it wasn't like doom 1 or 2 I stopped playing

[solar bough]

Play it between Doom 64 and Doom 2016.

[sage agate]

How fast is the main character from doom 3?

[scenic stratus]

I never had a speed issue with DOOM 3

[misty abyss]

Pretty fast if you press shift to run

You know, not dissimilar from previous two games

[strong tiger]

yeah, you can move fast and even combine it with bunny hopping. The only issue is the stamina bar that exists.

[dusk crane]

I always thought Doom 3 was like a reboot of Doom 1. It made sense to me the way it like…. Didn’t follow any of the story.

But that’s just my thought.

[quasi silo]

It's a reimagining

[solar bough]

It is but partially.

It's really more it's own story.

[dusk crane]

Yeah that’s more the word I meant to use.

[twin glen]

I'm not the biggest fan of the horror fps games. But Doom 3 is still fun to play, and while the story doesn't quite fit with the rest. you do get to see where a lot of the inspiration for Doom 2016 and Eternal came from. It's a great game to play.

[bronze crane]

One of my favorite doom 3 mods is Doom 3 2553

[dusk crane]

What is that?

[bronze crane]

It's a crossover mod

The mod author even recently made a quake 4 2554

[tacit pendant]

I remember vanoss use doom 3 super shotgun and killed nogla in sandbox so many times I couldn't stop laughing

[frigid brook]

Original yes, and I'd advise avoiding the BFG edition in a wide arc!

[viral briar]

Doom 3 probably has too many re-releases, but would it hurt for Nightdive to perhaps do a proper remastered collection that’s more faithful to the 2004 originals?

[quasi silo]

I think it'd be best if they make a version with toggleable BFG or 2004 options

Like, flashlight - BFG or 2004, ammo - BFG or 2004, etc

[marble spade]

original doom 3 for more scares ig

[solar bough]

It would also include some other benefits like more localization, which the rerelease for Doom 1 and 2 have.

Though BFG Edition is already a bit of a step in that direction since it has a Japanese translation, which the original doesn’t.

But that could likely just be modded into the original.

[quasi silo]

Also lacks a Polish translation which the original had. It's a step forward, step back

[solar bough]

Doesn’t say in the Steam page for either that there is.

[quasi silo]

You shouldn't look at just Steam pages for older games to determine info like this; I don't mean to sound judgemental, it's just friendly advice. It's usually lacking of localizations, like in this case. There was a physical copy with Polish on it

[burnt patrol]

yeah honestly I think doom 3 probably does deserve a modern rerelease

just have base game, resurrection of evil, bfg edition in one install

let you toggle if you want bfg edition changes or not

it'd be perfect

[acoustic bone]

Guys can someone help me get Doom 3 up and running with idtech4a++?

Dm me please

[scenic stratus]

a modern rerelease would just be another copy of the bfg edition without the multiplayer lmao

[quasi silo]

Completely ignoring half of what has been said here 😭

[scenic stratus]

they dont give a shit about the og release

[quasi silo]

Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it never will

[misty abyss]

I'd love to see Doom 3 with original, not downscaled, models since performance is there nowadays

[acoustic bone]

Does anyone have the Doom 3 pk4 files?

Please

[quasi silo]

We won't help you with piracy. Extract them from your own copy

[burnt patrol]

If they get nightdive to do it I trust them

to make it good with lots of options

[marble spade]

reddit is ur best friend

[real root]

Hello everyone! Did you play with Overdose mod?

and if yes, what do you think about it?

[real root]

Last question I have in mind. What overhaul mods you suggest?

And what overhaul (if close to vanilla) you suggest for a first playthrough?

[hasty sentinel]

GameStop now sales OG doom 3 copies

Just played through the Lost mission DLC last night for the first time, it was awesome

[peak saddle]

DentonMod

[livid lake]

I've been working on ideas for giving the Doom 3 arsenal a Brutal Doom esque touch up. I don't have the coding skills to make it anything but a fun writing project.

[quasi silo]

Hey @scenic stratus, so during the events of DOOM 3 we get to see the Martian hero, which you theorize to be Doomguy. Do we know what timeframe he could've entered the DOOM 3 world? Part of a Sentinel mission or just on his own?

[strong tiger]

there are dismemberment and blood mods out there if you want to start off with that.

[scenic stratus]

IMO he didn't know the Sentinels yet. My theory is he ended up on Doom 3's Mars sometime after he decided to stay in Hell in Doom 64. Hell invaded Mars and Doomguy followed them, then ended up fighting with the Sentinels that were on that Mars.

My theory is that this is how Doomguy ended up on Sentinel Prime - the Martian Civilization is a Sentinel colony that traveled a universe to the left, and Doomguy somehow found a portal that brought him back to the original Sentinel dimension, right on the doorstep of Sentinel Prime.

[quasi silo]

Alright cool thanks

[livid lake]

I mean I don't really mod Doom 3, I just like making my own ideas for weapons that fit the same scope as the arsenal while adding in extra functionality.
Simply put I'm musing about the Doom 3 weapons getting the 2016 treatment.

The comparasion to Brutal Doom was about its weapon philosophy, with alternate functions and multiple weapons in each slot.

[upper prawn]

and here I thought it was
doom 1 then 2 then final doom then the time line reboots into 3 then we get dark ages, 2016 then eternal.

[livid lake]

Don't forget Doom 64. I'd say it's just before Doom 3, due to the state of decline in the UAC's facitilites before they rebranded with the new logo and newer tech.

Although frankly Doom 3 is in a bit of an awkward spot as far as the timeline goes.

[simple wasp]

Don't forget the dilapidated Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3 arcade cabinets stuffed into one of the hallways

In 2016, I mean

[woven flower]

This ain't wrong. TDA you fight on Hebeth on level 3. Aka the place under the surface of Mars in Eternal.

[fallow ibex]

It's Doomin' time

[terse lake]

First time playing doom 3 what difficult should I play in?

I have played doom game before just not the old ones

[ornate light]

Veteran imho. It’s not a super difficult game.

If you just want to breeze through and take in the atmosphere a lower difficulty is fine for that though

[terse lake]

Gocha thanks

[minor edge]

@quartz isle @trim berry @sacred forge @marble spade

[quartz isle]

I just looked it up, in doom 3 you literally dont even play as any singificant doom character

You are quite literally just a marine

So it makes sense the games feel different from eachother

[minor edge]

Bro you play as Doom 3’s version of The Doom Guy

[scenic stratus]

And thats the best thing about it

[minor edge]

This is like saying “you’re not anyone significant in Doom 1”

[scenic stratus]

You dont play as a mary sue

[quartz isle]

But that even more confirms my saying of "its a different vibe"

You fill the role of someone entire else

As far as im aware the doom guy from doom 1 is the same as in doom eternal

[minor edge]

Yea but like

He’s only retroactively important

In Doom 1 he was just “a marine”. Like how in Doom 3 he was “a marine”.

[quartz isle]

It is cool. The discussion was doom 3 being far different from the other doom titles

[scenic stratus]

It aint that different from classic doom

Sure, there arent a ton of enemies on screen

[marble spade]

i can’t argue with that tbh

maybe not “far” different but sure

[quartz isle]

But you already felt like you were a fucking badass from the very beginning of the game. There wasnt really like insane evolvement of strength of whatever

[quartz isle]

That was like the whole point of the discussion

That doom 3 is a different concept then the other titles

It fills the same role but is still different in comparison

[marble spade]

okay but that still comes from doom 3 it just takes a little longer that’s it

[scenic stratus]

But it still has secret hunting, infighting and the horror atmosphere of og doom

[minor edge]

I guess? Idk
Doom 1’s first episode is spooky music, lower enemy counts, dark lights and monster closets
It’s not till Episode 2 where it becomes mostly metal and larger areas and less ‘jumpscares’

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it gets a little more fast paced at the end

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And PlayStation Doom is literally horror game ambience and dark dynamic lighting

[quartz isle]

Yes and thats why i say its different. The game starts pretty slow as you are just a "marine". The game evolves slowly into you are the monster rather then being hunted by the monsters

The other games make you feel like a badass the second the game starts imo

[marble spade]

now let’s all celebrate for having the 38282th debate on doom 3

[frail pawn]

I don’t rlly like doom 3 ngl it’s too slow and way too dark

[quartz isle]

I assume thats just a timely thing. I never looked at the og dooms and assumed they were remotely scary. I think doom 3 is the only doom hitting the scary atmosphere

[marble spade]

good for you

[frail pawn]

Any way I can turn the brightness up?

[quartz isle]

Well the debate isnt if doom 3 is bad tho, its if its comparable to the experiences of the other titles

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i dont believe u………..

[marble spade]

flashlight is in the game

[quartz isle]

Why would you tho? its a 'horror' game

Its like turning up the brightness in resident evil

[frail pawn]

Ik but I can’t see shit

[marble spade]

there’s a flashlight dawg.

[quartz isle]

Thats the point

[scenic stratus]

pretty sure there's a console command that disables all lightning

[quartz isle]

Thats what you get the flashlight for

[frail pawn]

Its bearly a horror game ngl

[scenic stratus]

action horror game

[marble spade]

it classifies as horror definitely

[quartz isle]

For the newer standarts it isnt

[marble spade]

ur playing first time right?

[frail pawn]

Yh

[marble spade]

so i’m guessing ur early in the game if you didn’t know about the flashlight?

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Yeah essentially

[frail pawn]

I have it but it’s sucks

[minor edge]

Doom was scary but nowadays not really

But Doom 64 especially is trying to use the lighting and music to be spooky

[frail pawn]

Dooms never rlly been scary ngl

[marble spade]

at this point this is all you dawg

[scenic stratus]

nudoom ruined the scariness of doom

[minor edge]

on a related note Maybe

[quartz isle]

I assume like since doom was one of the first real first person shooters people thought it was kinda scary back then

[frail pawn]

Yh I get the creeps playing it sometimes

[quartz isle]

But nowdays even if its the first game you will ever play it wouldnt be scary anymore

[minor edge]

but
Doom 3 having the “they took my baby” ambience works really well with Doom 64’s ambient music having babies crying

[frail pawn]

The games just not for me prob but I need to beat it before doom the dark ages

[minor edge]

Doom 2016 still has the right blend I feel

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you dont

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Eternal is NOT scary in the slightest but neither in Doom 2

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if you dont like it why bother playing it?

[marble spade]

i can understand that definitely

[quartz isle]

Doom 3 has like almost 0 relation to any other doom game

[frail pawn]

Still

[marble spade]

not true

[quartz isle]

Cause they play in different universes ( i think )

[minor edge]

Doom 1/64/3/2016: Action/Horror
Doom 2/Final Doom/Eternal: Purely Action

[marble spade]

it has relations to main line games but not slayer

so it’s canon and not mainly

[scenic stratus]

Are we talking story wise?

[frail pawn]

I don’t rlly like doom 2 with its lvl design but it’s still rlly good

[quartz isle]

Im pretty sure the doom 3 storyline has barely to no important relation to the story

[marble spade]

i hope so since he talked about universes

[quartz isle]

You could go through the entire story and skip doom 3 and still make sense of things

[marble spade]

it’s mentioned in 2016 and the snap cube is in eternal as a easter egg

[minor edge]

Doom 2016’s plot is heavingly reusing Doom 3’s, The Sentinels are inspired by or just literally are the “Ancient Martians” from Doom 3, the UAC in 2016 is heavily like Doom 3’s, some of the modern demons and designs are from 3

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 takes place in another universe

[quartz isle]

Exaclty

[marble spade]

but if your talking about doom slayer you are right.

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But it's still canon

[frail pawn]

Yh but It bug me that a wasted money

[marble spade]

it’s just mentioned here and there that’s it

[quartz isle]

But that just further proves it doesnt matter?

2016 plays in the correct universe and reuses the story from doom 3

Doesnt that mean doom 3 is even more irrelevant story wise then

[marble spade]

i wanna call mono here (he’s the main lore guy) but i feel bad for him having to explain why doom 3 is canon to mainline games

[scenic stratus]

2016's hell invasion happens in another universe

[minor edge]

If you’re playing Doom for the story alone you’re in the wrong series :P

[marble spade]

doom 3 is also mentioned in 2016 codex’s too

[frail pawn]

Is doom 3 part of doom 1 and 2s line or is it a reboot of doom 1

[quartz isle]

Im not saying its not canon, im just saying you could probably skip doom 3 and still have a perfectly fine story no?

[marble spade]

it was meant to be a reboot of classics yes

[marble spade]

yes that’s what i agree with just the “no relation” is objectively false

[frail pawn]

K also how can I buy final doom