doom-3

[quasi silo]

It's a horror game my guy

I should stop using my guy so often lol it barely makes sense

[brazen lily]

and yet a good chunk of the game was cut

[quasi silo]

...because it's an Xbox port?

[brazen lily]

yea

[quasi silo]

What is your point exactly?

They cut the silly part out and kept the horror part, because it's a horror game

[brazen lily]

the entirety of doom 1 and 2 are in the game tho

[quasi silo]

Only in the Collector's Edition

And let's be fr DOOM I and II probably weigh less than the Turbo model alone

[warm cape]

I'll help, whats ur name

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 has multiplayer?

[warm cape]

yes

I need to kill 2 players with a rocket in Doom 3 Multiplayer. Anyone wanna help?

[wraith pumice]

holy shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzTik4MWnk0

our man decino himself is finally playing Doom 3

[cinder grail]

What a grand thumbnail that is

[scenic stratus]

Prob gonna complain about how boring it is in the first 10 minutes lol

[frosty bluff]

help, whenever i start doom 3 it crashes idk why but the window comes up then a blue script window appears and stops the game

[bright void]

anyone wanna play doom 3 coop?

[minor geyser]

why does the flashlight only last 30 seconds?

may i know the reason?

doom 3 sucks...

[scenic stratus]

How

[minor geyser]

why does the flashlight only last 30 seconds?

weapons swapping is extremely slow

screen is dark barely see the enemy

[scenic stratus]

Doom 3 is a bad game but a good Doom game

[minor geyser]

agree

[scenic stratus]

💀

[minor geyser]

if you are playing doom 3 with hdr monitor

it will break your hdr settings

you need to power off power on to fix this

doom 3 bfg sucks

[sleek juniper]

true

[minor geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/384360570520076290/1266794389708210257/3748716_hAw83zw.gif

[bright void]

cuz ur playing the dumb version

[carmine viper]

bfg edition stinks

[frosty bluff]

Does anyone know why my doom 3 crashes

[quasi silo]

You're gonna need to get into specifics

[frosty bluff]

Whenever i open it, it crashes

[quasi silo]

What version(s) are you using? What pops up after the crash? Is it nothing?

I can't help you personally but it is good to type this out for someone in the future who could help you

[frosty bluff]

I think its doom bfg because its on Xbox and they have the best version of games

like fallout 3 gotye

[quasi silo]

On Xbox meaning Xbox App on PC or Xbox the console?

[frosty bluff]

but idk

Xbox Pc

the game pass

[quasi silo]

And my second question?

[frosty bluff]

So it boots up, says launching game in the window, and then doom3 pops up for half a second then another window thats white text over blue appears for even less time then its just back to my screen

my desktop

[quasi silo]

Do you know what the text says?

[frosty bluff]

it disappears too fast

I think its the error code

[quasi silo]

You can try to read it by recording the footage via Windows + Alt + R, then pause it right before the text disappears

[frosty bluff]

i thought about that but i thought it would be too much work

i could try it

[quasi silo]

If you want to play DOOM 3 then you should do it

[frosty bluff]

I go in order and im still on doom 2 so its not that big of a rush

doom 64 boots up fine

idk what doom 3‘s deal is

and ive looked up a million videos but theyre too broad or not my problem

[quasi silo]

I am pretty confident you should still try to figure out what the text is as help is not guaranteed and the earlier you ask for it the more people might see it

[frosty bluff]

I think its maybe an error code saying the pinky didnt download right

or smth but ill look for a way

[quasi silo]

Huh...? Okay, just send the text over and we'll see

[frosty bluff]

You dont get much do you

doesnt matter

I’ll figure it out somehow

Thank you lots

[quasi silo]

I would like to know what this means

I would like to assume you are not calling me dense

Look, I tried to be helpful when I didn't have to, good luck figuring it out then

I genuinely have no idea what prompted you to say that but oh well

[sleek juniper]

SOILDER?!?!?!?

[frosty bluff]

nice hair

[scenic stratus]

What is your malfunction, Major?

[lone bone]

If you guys don't mind and are still available I would like to get them done.

[scenic stratus]

I will never understand those that defend the fucking BFG edition on pc

[ember verge]

Im scarred af on the original

So I like the bfg more

It doesn't mean it's better tho

Like the og ui was near perfect

Not even near just perfect

[quasi silo]

Opinions moment

[misty abyss]

You can deny mounted flashlight but you can't run

[scenic stratus]

No, seriously
Im playing it right now and Im baffled by the lack of video settings

The higher fps setting doesnt even appear

And the fucking chaingun fires so slow at 75 fps

Literally the only benefit Im having by playing the bfg edition over the original is that the hud and the ui arent stretched out anymore

And having achievements

[quasi silo]

My experience is very different as a console player so I can't really respond because all of your points only apply to PC

I like BFG though

[finite charm]

Only Doom game I haven’t fully played besides Eternal which I’m currently doing this week, my Damm arachnophobia always plays up when I try and play it

[indigo holly]

Given the trites whole deal I can understand why

[scenic stratus]

Yeah it’s bad I was too lenient to it earlier

Don’t understand how they managed to make a game released in 2004 look so much worse nearly a decade later but they did it

Best thing about it is the Lost Mission which is pretty good

[modest ore]

The BFG Edition is good. Bethesda is stupid for not porting the multiplayer modes to the PS4, Xbox One, and Switch versions.

[scenic stratus]

https://youtu.be/LcBAMuBjtKE?si=t8t-vYvwqLV0I8ee

Like Doom 3 more than this guy does but I honestly agree with just about every point he makes

I think the most relevant point he makes is that Doom 3 is held back by trying to be a Doom game still, instead of embracing its own style and identity fully

[scenic stratus]

I totally agree with him
Doom doesn’t feel like a Doom game

[frosty bluff]

Sir, Balls

[scenic stratus]

Haha, yeah

[finite charm]

The ironic thing is that arachnophobia aside I still would argue 64 does a better job being scary, it’s deranged haunting music with baby cries, the grotesque as hell designs, and especially some enemies just appearing in front of you is the one that got me the most, knowing you can just be ambushed anywhere because Demons can just… POP into existence somehow

[frosty bluff]

No, Scunts are

[scenic stratus]

Did I get the original quote right? I don’t typically dominate Soldiers as a scout lol

[scenic stratus]

Man, BFG edition really does shower you with ammo

[gloomy compass]

You can just give it 16:9 1080 in the config section

[scenic stratus]

It doesn’t

Like I get Doom 3 uses a lot of cheap tricks to jumpscare the player

Those are lame, especially in the mid-late game

But the sound design in Doom 3 and DARK shadows makes for plenty of terrifying moments still

There is also some genuinely well made horror setpieces as well

[finite charm]

I definitely think some stuff works, the enemy designs are one of them, not all of them, the Cacodemon looks really dumb but the Pinky’s are horrifying with how they look, the imps and maggots are super simplistic yet very well detailed for common mobs

And the hell knight of 3 to this day is my favourite Doom design aside from OG cacodemon, the lack of eyes are just haunting

The flashlight as well makes it pretty haunting to traverse

I’m still not a fan of Doom 3s horror but my previous message didn’t give it enough credit before because some parts genuinely do work

The lighting especially and the fact you can’t have you weapon out when using the flashlight

[scenic stratus]

Yeah I mean even if none of Doom 3’s horror setpieces worked I’d still say it’s just naturally spooky because of the lighting and setting. Demons waking in and out of complete darkness can really be terrifying, especially in the early game where you’re sparse on resources

[finite charm]

Yes I agree

[noble aspen]

Hello everyone, does someone know how to install mods in doom 3, im using delta touch on android

[scenic stratus]

Doom 64 has a decent mood but it never viscerally scared me

The demon designs are also hit and miss

More than Doom 3 imho

I think the cut revenant is actually my favorite

[finite charm]

I see your point, heck i guess my part of them just appearing during certain levels also makes some scares I had a bit cheap as well

[scenic stratus]

That fits the vibe of Doom 64 perfectly

But then you get stuff like the mancubus

[finite charm]

I don’t really like many designs of the Mancubus since they honestly just don’t look like a demon

2 and Eternal just get it right for me personally

The others just make him too alien

64 is also guilty of it, I don’t like it

[quasi silo]

They were affected by radioactivity (and I'm pretty sure rotting away too?), plus it's not impossible that DOOMGuy's perception of them can be warped by his PTSD

[scenic stratus]

Doom 64 Mancubus doesn’t look alien to me, just weird honestly

Doom 3 ofc had the semi-transparent skin approach

Which I’m okay with, works better than on the revenant

[finite charm]

I think you’re right actually in Doom 2 it’s like implied Doomguy does deal with ptsd

[scenic stratus]

Doom 2016 mancubus is alright as well. It does look putrid.

[finite charm]

It just makes me wonder why they would put cannons on a one eye demon honestly

[scenic stratus]

But overall my favorite is the doom 2/Eternal Mancubus. Looks the most gluttonous.

[scenic stratus]

Tbf those cannons are natural on the 2016 ones

Only version without cybernetics I believe

[finite charm]

Absolutely, the expressions as well are just so funny

I’m playing Doom 2 right now, and his stupid walk makes me die laughing

[finite charm]

Oh Damm-

I did not know that, makes a lot more sense now

[finite charm]

I didn’t mention that either, I honestly think it’s my favourite version, I kinda dig the transparent skin

[scenic stratus]

Yeah it’s just a chitinous growth that lets them expel all the gross shit in their stomach via flame

“Mancubi have taken their disgusting physical condition and turned it into a weapon. As they reach maturity, a chitinous growth begins to form over each hand, creating a hard sheltered "barrel". As the flesh inside decomposes, a noxious effluvium begins to leak from the barrel. The Mancubus can spew this discharge from the barrel over a remarkable distance. The volitale goo ignites under the tremendous pressure, creating a highly effective biomechanical flamethrower.”

[quasi silo]

It's probably my second-favorite, 2016 one looks great

[finite charm]

That’s metal as hell

[scenic stratus]

I like to think the 2016 Mancubi were the only subspecies to evolve the ability to do that while the rest didn’t, and the demons took inspiration and decided to emulate the same process artificially via cybernetics

So roughly the same process takes place where it takes the discharge and transforms it into flammable material

[finite charm]

If those cannons are natural it means whatever forces of hell picked the Damm one eyed demons to have them

That’s just… mean

[quasi silo]

I mean, their eye is in the middle, wouldn't that make it normal to aim

[finite charm]

No idea how it works honestly, just taking a guess, I just think logically having two eyes would work better than just one in the centre

I might just search it up

[quasi silo]

I mean, Demons work differently than us, they may have some sort of advantage where we wouldn't

[scenic stratus]

Depth perception might be a bit of an issue but no one said they were accurate

[quasi silo]

True. Also soz about popping in and out randomly, I'm sort of lurking

Brb, a funny thing just happened though where I died on an UN run yesterday, but the save was still here, I loaded in, and I have no guns

[scenic stratus]

The mancubus probably primarily use it as a traditional close range flamethrower to defend itself, which doesn’t require much accuracy

[finite charm]

I mean the cyber one actually gets a visor or headset doesn’t he? So even then they probably can shoot pretty well

[scenic stratus]

Yeah

Free VR headset

[finite charm]

Even if it couldn’t, that visor proved they have the tech to actually use their weapon efficiently

[finite charm]

You unlocked the secret classic Doom Mode

Lose all weapons after death

[quasi silo]

Back. I wouldn't be surprised if it was some sort of early version of the implant in the Doom Hunter's eye

[quasi silo]

I also didn't have a double jump, so this is even more accurate

[finite charm]

Damm you Romero

[finite charm]

Haven’t gotten to the doom hunters just yet, Eternal is my final doom game to finish

[quasi silo]

Mine is Final DOOM

[finite charm]

Maybe if I face my spider fears I’ll do 3 maybe-

[scenic stratus]

It’s extra cool because the mancubus in RoE sewer areas actually have dirtier skin, like the toxic waste is seeping through the thin layer.

[quasi silo]

So it's NOT Eternal

[finite charm]

WELL…. DAMM U RITE

[finite charm]

I always just pictured the Mancubus in general as a demon just barely holding itself together considering it’s body mass, slow movement, and how it gets torn apart during almost all of the glory kills

[scenic stratus]

Yeah that’s how 2016 describes its version. The stomach is barely holding itself together and can be easily pierced

An extra bit of Doom 3 Mancubus lore is that they’re apparently the offspring of the Vagaries (humanoid spider demons)

[finite charm]

I’m pretty sure on the regular design itself there’s a line across it’s stomach, idk if it’s stitches or not but I assume so

And I assume the Doom 3 Mancubus lore has something to do with that actual spider fight in the same game

[quasi silo]

The Mancubi have triple nipples btw

... oh right, wrong DOOM Wiki

[finite charm]

I still have no idea if the Doom 3 Macubus is a good design or not

[quasi silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246106122566373407/1268202949838901279/1024.png?ex=66ab9189&is=66aa4009&hm=8eec0732ff3b58992996d72640a0834017b8c1e41d37bca162ea64f8939f4529&

[finite charm]

It’s like a dinosaur demon in some areas

I do like the whole deal of all the 64 demons being like that though since it makes sense in the lore since they are mutated by the mother demon

[quasi silo]

I'm pretty sure they were revived from rotting corpses too so those horns and teeth could've been spilling out of its skull

[finite charm]

Imps are more lanky

Pinky’s are more grotesque

Arachnotrons gain more legs and they’re sharpened

The Cacodemon… stole the Pain Elementals drip

And the pain elemental… omfg that thing

[quasi silo]

The Pain Elemental design makes sense, the Lost Souls inside it could've been trying to escape the corpse hence the holes on the sides

[finite charm]

Isn’t it like two Cacodemons that were stitched together

[quasi silo]

I don't think the Mother Demon would want to bother with that

[finite charm]

Gave him a mullet though, she ain’t that mean

[quasi silo]

64 designs are freaky

[scenic stratus]

how to unsee

[finite charm]

Cyber demon actually shooting rockets from his gun now is mega cursed

[quasi silo]

BFG tracers are locked onto the middle of the sprite isntead of the bottom too now

[finite charm]

It’s super cool, it works with all of them I’m pretty sure

[quasi silo]

Oh, yeah, I meant the sprite as in the sprite of demons in general

[finite charm]

The demons attacks look more clean than my super shotgun reloading

[quasi silo]

So non-existent in 64

[finite charm]

The poor limitations, Idk if there’s mods that add em or not tho, I’ll probably check after I finish eternal

[scenic stratus]

ye

doom 64 ce has proper animations when you select smooth weapons and adds missing enemies, i rec that version

someone probably has made a non smooth version as well

[finite charm]

Oh cool, I’ll
Check it rn

[scenic stratus]

its for gzdoom

[noble aspen]

Hello everyone, does someone know how to add mods in doom 3?, im using delta touch on android

[scenic stratus]

[quasi silo]

https://tenor.com/view/piracy-its-a-crime-you-wouldnt-steal-a-car-you-wouldnt-steal-a-handbag-you-wouldnt-steal-a-mobile-phone-you-wouldnt-steal-a-dvd-gif-20041955

I wasn't exactly serious lol but you can play a lot of DOOM games on a website, but legally? Hell no.

It is, it's too easy, it's a scummy practice

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I assume you mean the browser DOOM stuff

There's official Bethesda staff here, and there's a group of very good moderators and administrators here. I also wouldn't call it crap, it's easily my favorite server ever

[gloomy compass]

fun fact, its not actually stealing legally

[quasi silo]

But it is morally questionable

Do you know what morally questionable means? Lmao

I'm pretty sure discussing piracy is not allowed here anyway so I say let's cut it out

[scenic stratus]

You cant

[gloomy compass]

in the files im sure you can change it vanilla

[scenic stratus]

widescreen makes the ui stretched no matter what

you can force the ui to be 4:3 so it doesnt look like its stretched out when playing in widescreen but you cannot get a “true” widescreen ui on vanilla doom 3

[scenic stratus]

Another reason the BFG edition is bad:
Boneys dont appear in the hell level of the main campaign

[scenic stratus]

They're mid anyway

Just slightly tougher zombies

[eternal sable]

[modest ore]

DUN-DUN-DAH DUN-DUNDUN-DAH DUN-DUN-DAH DUN-DUNDUN-DAH!

[scenic stratus]

I don’t get why they changed stuff like that

[scenic stratus]

That doesnt justify their absence

[south gust]

I finished doom éternal

[quasi silo]

...why post about that in the DOOM 3 one

[rich ember]

i do not ever want to hear that again.

[rich ember]

what was posted?

[quasi silo]

I did not mean freaky THAT way...

[quasi silo]

DOOM 3 being playable in browser

[rich ember]

yeh no that's another thing that would explode my laptop

[trim hazel]

what if they made doom 4?

[quasi silo]

They kind of did, you can count 2016 as 4

[trim hazel]

and it's a horror doom like doom 64 and doom 3

[quasi silo]

They are not doing another horror DOOM anytime soon probably

[trim hazel]

so doom 64 is really canon doom 3?

[quasi silo]

DOOM 64 is canon, though DOOM 3 may also be, it's debatable

[trim hazel]

i used to think doom 3 replaced original doom. but theres never an earth invasion after RoE right?

[quasi silo]

We've never seen what happens after RoE

[trim hazel]

I doubt they would ever make a new game and continue the doom 3 storyline but that would be cool

[brisk phoenix]

Happy Birthday! DOOM 3

@trim hazel is set in an alternate universe?

[scenic stratus]

Yes it is

[minor geyser]

never

[scenic stratus]

BFG edition intro videos are earrape

[scenic stratus]

I’d hope the UAC learned from their mistakes

[night echo]

ok so i played 5 hours of this horrific game and i figured out that you cant see shat without the flashlight and how are ment to kill anything when you cant see them wtf! other than that it is a great game

[trim hazel]

duct tape mod

the duct tape mod sounds like such a relic of the 2000's when people weren't exposed to the idea of streamlights attached to their pistols and ARs

[night echo]

oh and could you provide a link to it please

for the sake of my last 2 brain cells

[trim hazel]

i had to DM you

[night echo]

thanks

[trim hazel]

what version of doom 3 do you have?

[night echo]

latest steam edition

doom 3 not doom 3 bfg edition

[trim hazel]

oh okay. it should work. there are a lot more doom 3 mods out there. it's been ported since then too

[scenic stratus]

@night echo check out Dhewm 3 if you haven’t already

[night echo]

ok

[scenic stratus]

It’s a sourceport mod for the og Doom 3

Improves performance, compatibility, all that jazz

Is compatible with a fair amount of mods as well

[trim hazel]

last year i bought a T420 and installed doom 3 on it from my original game discs. then i installed Dhewm 3

[scenic stratus]

Got done playing it the vanilla way going to play with the Enhanced Edition and D3HDP mods next

[flat obsidian]

Happy 20th Anniversary to DOOM3!

[night echo]

played that

[scenic stratus]

Enhanced Edition?

https://youtu.be/qIeikbQ_Xr0?si=GE6OXhNM2bKwqFv6

[night echo]

how do i set up dhewm 3

just extract and paste the file in doom 3 because i doesnt pop up on the mods drop down menu in doom 3

[trim hazel]

copy the .pk4 files from your doom 3 install folder into the dhewm 3 folder

[scenic stratus]

The mod page has a installation guide for every launcher and there should be a read me in the files itself

[night echo]

thanks guys

[flat obsidian]

NP!

[night echo]

dude thanks for the dhewm mod help just finished setting up everything it is great i have experianced way less clipping and texture loss than og doom 3

props to @scenic stratus and @trim hazel

[trim hazel]

nice bro, enjoy

[flat obsidian]

https://youtu.be/HbAkBcFkZIs Good time also to remind peeps to check this mod out if they haven't yet. A gameplay rebalancing mod that fully realizes the game's survival horror vision!

[trim hazel]

has anyone played doom3 phobos?

[viral briar]

Happy DOOM 3 Day!

[robust estuary]

Happy birthday to the best game in a world where only doom 3 exists

[scenic stratus]

20 years of peak

ok peak is an exaggeration but this is genuinely my favorite Doom game second very closely to Eternal

Doom 3 is peak shooter horror

Also might have the best main menu OST in the series

I will say this though, Doom 3 has the best sound design out of the whole series

Like D3's main menu is seriously one of my favorite Doom songs, not even joking

Super distinct demons, incredible ambient soundscapes, good weapons except for the machine gun, great voice acting, etc.

[scenic stratus]

Not even mentioning it was made in 2004

Like even now it still holds up as an amazing game

It definitely got overshadowed by HL2 but I feel like people have shut up about the flashlight & shotgun over the years and started giving Doom 3 the merit it deserves

It deserves it, it's so good

I'm not even that far into the game and it is good

[scenic stratus]

Please tell me it's the 2004 release with dhewm3. That's the way to play it

I'm playing it on PS5 so idk

Ah so you have the crap flashlight

I don't think it's awful

I just turn it on for a second then back off, rinse and repeat

Definitely give it a go on PC at some point. The game is designed around you not being able to have a flashlight & a gun at the same time so BFG Edition & the 2019 re-release don't really mix with how the game's lighting is set up

I think you'll notice throughout the game that combat encounters get tougher as the rooms get brighter lol

I will have to

The game switches into high gear when you get to ||Monorail Skybridge/Recycling|| which is also my favorite part of the game ||because of the shift in color palette and environment design||

I never really got the argument that Doom 3 didn't fit with the Doom name. What else would you have called it?

It definitely starts off slow, but it honestly feels like a "proper" Doom game once the combat picks up steam, and it's not as late into the game as people make it seem.

Also protip for the shotgun is to aim a little above the center of mass and get as close to the enemy as possible. I've been able to two-shot an Archvile like that

Ah okay

Thank you for the tip :3

Of course! The Doom 3 shotgun really isn't that bad imo

I honestly think Doom 3 having slower paced combat is better

It feels good in that engine

It still gets frantic in the late game and it's fun as hell. Feels closer to Doom 1 & 2 with a lower enemy count and slower movement than it does the modern Dooms when it's at its peak.

Still a pretty easy game though. Just gotta be able to gauge the splash damage of enemy projectiles and you're golden.

Fuck the Trites, though. FUCK those spider assholes.

The one thing I hate about Doom 3 is the Trite. Worst enemy in the game, worst encounter designs, worst role in the combat loop...

[quasi silo]

Not really engine, more or less design. If you want a fast-paced combat game on the same engine, Wolfenstein 2009 is a good pick, and I think Quake 4 meets that criteria as well

DOOM 3 birthday!

[dapper tartan]

doom 3 is a horror game

[viral briar]

Doom 3 is a real DOOM game just like other titles.

The franchise is not always the fast-paced run-and-gun action.

All DOOM games are great at their own.

[scenic stratus]

I just did a game of lost mission on nightmare to celebrate (unknowingly)

There concludes my doom 3 nightmare run, I finally finished all 3, base doom 3 was probably the hardest, but lost mission was the most fun

[scenic stratus]

20 years of this masterpiece

[frigid brook]

Happy Birfday to one of my top 3 games of all time!

[halcyon ridge]

Can’t believe 20 whole years went by since this game released

[frosty holly]

Kinda crazy how many demon types there are in DOOM 3 compared to DOOM 2016 or Eternal
But heres a really nice video i watched:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxR7JKQp2_M

[scenic stratus]

One thing I've learned about the doom 3 shotgun is that it's bad only if you use it as a gun, you need to use it like a knife

But one thing I liked a lot of doom 3 lost missions is that some rooms (at least on nightmare) force you to use the normal shotgun Instead of the double because otherwise it takes too much time to reload and you get overwhelmed

[scenic stratus]

Tbh even when hugging enemies it can still be inconsistent

[misty abyss]

^

it's ass regardless

[gloomy compass]

the thing that can one shot the super soldier is ass?

[scenic stratus]

at that point just use the chainsaw

I’ve legit had moments where even the super shotgun doesn’t 1 shot imps when I’m barely a few inches away from them though that’s super rare

[noble aspen]

Hello everyone, i have a issue when using doom 3, i have delta touch btw, i wanna use perfected doom 3, but when i launched the mod, it tells me this:
Error: file script/doom_events.script, line 13: Unknown event 'isLowered'
Is it because the dhewm version is 1.5.3 or is smth else?

[scenic stratus]

aim slightly above center of mass. use the pellet spread to your advantage

I tend to defend a lot Doom 3 but its shotgun is an exception

Even at point-blank range its inconsistent

It also kinda started the trend of making the base fire of shotguns completely useless on following games

[viral briar]

No official announcement from DOOM themselves yet?

I don’t expect much, but surely just to say happy 20th is enough.

[quasi silo]

Closest to that is The Game Awards tweeting about it and getting the year wrong

[viral briar]

17 years ago, the math is not mathing

[acoustic acorn]

thing is the D3 shotgun is very powerful. But ya gotta treat it like a melee weapon. If it was modeled like a sword, nobody would care about the small range compared to the power

[quasi silo]

If it was a sword people would complain about it being out of place lol, as DOOM 3 BFG has proven you can't please everyone

[vale wharf]

it's only inconsistent vs monsters that you can one shot like commando and chainsaw zombie

for those just use your other weapons

*can't
or if you're good enough you can get close, sneak a hit, back off and wait for them to finish their attack then repeat

[acoustic acorn]

It can OTK commandos and saw zombies. watch the video

[noble aspen]

.

[dry idol]

дум говноъ

дум этернал и всеее говно

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-get-real-get-real-gif-27122054

[scenic stratus]

Hazbin hotel pfp

[scenic stratus]

Copying that

[wooden swallow]

@everyone Is doom 3 canon

[quasi silo]

Debatable

[scenic stratus]

A lot of concepts and lore tidbits have been reused from Doom 3 in 2016 and Eternal, so I think it’s safe to say that it’s canon but not consequential to the overarching Doom universe

It just happens in a universe separate from any of the other ones seen in classic or NuDoom

[supple gull]

Happy 20th to Doom 3. Damn I'm late.

[scenic stratus]

Neat

[viral briar]

Well well, no 20th anniversary announcement from DOOM themselves.

It’s alright, the community has done the job.

[hushed abyss]

Yeah, I'm very surprised that there hasn't been any official announcements/acknowledgements. I wonder why.

[scenic stratus]

Because Doom 3 is a good game but a bad Doom game

[rose field]

❌

[scenic stratus]

I just wish modern ID acknowledge Doom 3 more

[scenic stratus]

Yoo Anvil love your content

[south gust]

[hushed abyss]

Thanks man. Much appreciated

[copper karma]

any of yall got a doom 3 marine model, im tryna make a vrchat avatar of it

[robust estuary]

Pre-made and ready to go? No
If you're willing to rig it yourself (or pray that unitys automatic rigging does its job), you may be able to find the model and textures on something like the "the models resource" site

Surely someone has ripped these models at some point, you just gotta find them

[misty abyss]

there's probably Quake Champions one somewhere maybe

[upbeat gorge]

So is this the canonical version of Doom 1 now?

[quasi silo]

DOOM 3's canon status is debatable, but it never replaced DOOM I, it's just a reimagining

They either exist seperately or together, one doesn't replace the other

[upbeat gorge]

I mean I guess both can be canon since Doom 3 takes place on Mars and Knee Deep in the Dead takes place on Phobos BJ the third was likely sent to Phobos before Mars got overrun with demons

[quasi silo]

There's a lot of things that are also to be taken into consideration though, like the UAC's status, the demons themselves, the Martians, etc

[frigid brook]

It's exactly as I had foreseen, they're paying Doom 3 absolute dust.

[bold surge]

Bethesda or rockstar games?

[scenic stratus]

Which is weird considering I thought they were fairly open about the inspiration they’ve taken from Doom 3 in the past

[scenic stratus]

too different but rockstar

[scenic stratus]

https://youtu.be/dxR7JKQp2_M?si=EO1hVhk0_K8v_k0E

[scenic stratus]

rng spread = skill

[acoustic acorn]

get closer

then be closer

I get that it's terrible range for a shotgun. But it's not effective as "a shotgun". It's extremely effective as a melee weapon

[scenic stratus]

why would I do that with a chaingun commander? lol

[acoustic acorn]

Use something else on a chaingunner

should have rockets available at that point

[scenic stratus]

In that case, you are better off using the chainsaw

[acoustic acorn]

no since the chainsaw takes longer to kill

It's better to kill the monsters faster rather than slower

[scenic stratus]

it really doesnt

[acoustic acorn]

did you watch the video? It's a 1-hit on a majority of enemies

which makes the TTK ideally the time it takes to get within range

[scenic stratus]

That doesnt make it reliable

[acoustic acorn]

if you're close enough, it won't miss. Since so many enemies spawn in deliberately with warning and take a moment to actually move, it's way more manageable than it might seem to close the gap

[scenic stratus]

And it will make you get killed on nightmare

[acoustic acorn]

Especially in the context of a 1-hit, if it takes an enemy any amount of time to ready a strike, they will be dead already

You don't have to use it on hitscanners

It's not a coincidence that it makes a huge proportion of kills in the speedrun

[scenic stratus]

Speedruns

Not regular gameplay

[acoustic acorn]

it's not some insurmountable advanced tech to "get closer"

Think about how weird the classic BFG is --- how close you have to get. Way easier than this thing

It's just counter intuitive that's all

the spread on the ssg is similar. It's slightly tigher on the vertical axis

[scenic stratus]

Are you really going to defend a gun that cannot kill a basic zombie in 2 meters?

[acoustic acorn]

melee weapons can be good

[scenic stratus]

melee weapons

[acoustic acorn]

If it was just remodeled to be a sword, nobody would complain

[scenic stratus]

not a fucking gun

[acoustic acorn]

It's good at being what it is. You want it to be something that it really isn't

[scenic stratus]

its good at being an awful shotgun thats for sure

Modern Doom shotguns also suck

If it wasnt for their mods, they would be absolutely useless

[acoustic acorn]

ok then use the good parts of it? It's good at something. Use it for what they're good at

[quasi silo]

Sticky Bombs + Caco

[viral briar]

Sticky grenades: exists

[scenic stratus]

There is literally no way that you think the plasma rifle is better than the super shotgun in either 2016 or eternal

[wind viper]

I mean, watch weapon has its own purpose; different demons are weak against different weapons. It's usually not a big deal, but using the right weapon on the right demon might contribute to a faster burn. Once yiu get the SSG in Doom Eternal, I can't see there being much need for the regular shotgun, NGL. The Doom 3 shotgun, from what I hear, was underwhelming for a lot of people, although I personally didn't mind the clunkiness.

Unless there's some weapon upgrade for the Combat Shotgun that I've forgotten about.

[next inlet]

https://youtu.be/6v9F4a46SN4?si=HC3RO_gwr0Hd3-M7

[scenic stratus]

Good RNG there

[olive cairn]

USE IT AS A FUCKING POINTBLANK PROBLEM SOLVER

[misty abyss]

that's funny because even at pointblank you still may not kill the target

[olive cairn]

get dead center luck

[gloomy compass]

You will because it's point blank unless you're like me with the aiming capacity of a lobster that's drunk

[misty abyss]

i have numerous experiences of that not happening

exactly at pointblank

it's hilarious seeing people defend this awful shotgun

[heavy sandal]

"b-but use it as a point blank weapon"

[scenic stratus]

pretty sure he modded the spread

[scenic stratus]

sometimes people win the lottery

[abstract fable]

Don't think so.

I think I had something like this happen once as well. But only once and never again

[verbal scaffold]

Why has there not been a Sentry Bot Plush/Figure/Anything at all? I'd buy it in a heartbeat

[olive cairn]

also iirc you can just fuckin modify the spread in it's script file if you're too lazy

don't go too low with the number because your basically pushing cheating

[still sail]

Guys help Ive downloaded some mods and now my doom 3 is a f4cking nuts.wad

More monsters and ultra violence

Just I mean alpha 4 I have in this arena 6 fat ass spiders from quake

[still sail]

Yes

If you have misses it means you dont use it properly

It deals exact amount of damage to take down imp from 1 shot

On nightmare

Well it even deals more cuz shotgun is stronger than rl

[misty abyss]

lmao

[scenic stratus]

literally every FPS ever

[abstract fable]

In DOOM, it's only really the SSG that's rocket launcher strength.

Not the regular shotgun haha

[jolly cape]

some dream of DOOM 3 remastered, i would go half remaster and remake with the game using the newest version of Id tech engine. just my wildest dreams lol

[slim grove]

Jeez !

[scenic stratus]

They are never going to rerelease the original version 😭

fax ;-;

[rain shoal]

Because the non-BFG edition is still available on Steam...

[inner obsidian]

whats the difference between bfg and non-bfg edition

[misty abyss]

non-bfg has flashlight taking up separate slot

and doesn't have lost mission campaign

[rain shoal]

And some other tweaks here and there

[rain shoal]

But that is the major one

Opinions in the community differ very much on if the BFG Edition is better or not...

[misty abyss]

maybe it's not the better one but i certainly prefer being able to use flashlight and shoot at the same time

tho original Doom 3 with HD mod is breathtaking

[gloomy compass]

Bfg has more ammo, less mod capability, shoulder flashlight instead of unique weapon, lost missions, higher default resolution and aspect ratio but you can replace that in classic with mods, gunshots don't illuminate the environment, has a port of the classic dooms in it

[inner obsidian]

which one should i play(not gonna play modded)

[modest ore]

I hope for the day when Doom 3 gets a proper re-release/remaster for PS5 and Xbox Series X/S with cross-platform online multiplayer.

But I doubt it'll happen because Doom 3 isn't as well-loved as Doom 1 and 2.

[rain shoal]

Up to you, people here present to you the differences, you can decide based on that 🙂

I would just try to play through the first level of both and then decide which one you like most 🙂

[rain shoal]

Why do people always ask for people they don't even know to make a choice for them when already presented with the differences? haha, always find that facinating.

[inner obsidian]

what im asking there is,i mean the...meaning is"which one you like most?"

[rain shoal]

I personally think that they are so significantly different that it is all too subjective. But I would say that technically BFG has the best graphics quality, so would personally prefer that

But my opinion says nothing of course as it is up to you haha

[scenic stratus]

BFG looks so much worse it isn’t even funny

The lighting is fucked

Even if the textures are slightly better it doesn’t come close to balancing out the lighting changes

[gloomy compass]

Classic, although I would recommend using the HD textures as it makes the game look way better and still isn't that performance intensive
Also make sure to change it to 1080p 16:9

[pallid oasis]

i just downloaded doom 3

[tawny sable]

[cinder grail]

doom 3 with mods is nice, though personally i'm just lazy and play with dhewm3 for most of the bugfixes that mods provide

the EAX support is a nice bonus along with the widescreen HUD corrections

[modest ore]

Even though it probably won't happen, but I hope Nightdive would do a proper remaster of Doom 3 with multiplayer.

[winged wren]

Is doom 3 a sequel to doom 2?

[scenic stratus]

No, its a complete reboot

[winged wren]

So like doom 3 is its own thing

Does it have anything to do with 2016 and eternal?

[scenic stratus]

Its like a remake of classic Doom

[winged wren]

I see

[scenic stratus]

It might be canon to the modern doom story

[winged wren]

Ill have to play doom 3 now too because its the only one i never played as i never could make where does it take place in timeline

[frank mural]

shame on you

[near shoal]

I remember how I earlier hated Doom 3, but now it's one of my favourite parts of Doom game.

[quasi silo]

No, it's a reimagining, not a remake

[quasi silo]

Same here, I love it now, used to not

[scenic stratus]

its the same thing 😭

[quasi silo]

It's VERY close, true, but just gonna say that it isn't a full-on remake so anybody that's here that never played or consumed any DOOM 3 media doesn't think it's just a fancier DOOM I

[feral relic]

Same here

[carmine viper]

L shotgun spread

[tall wolf]

Is Doom 3 2019 on PC only on Microsoft Store ?

On Steam I can only find the 2012 BFG Edition

[quasi silo]

It's also on EGS

[tall wolf]

I mean, can't you play it on Steam ?

The 2019 version

[quasi silo]

No

You can add it to Steam as a non-Steam game, but you can't buy it there

[limber tree]

I'm sure that both versions are available on steam

and i THINK if you buy doom 3 you automatically get BFG edition for free alongside it

[robust estuary]

DOOM 3 2019 can only be found from the microsoft store for pc

Buying DOOM 3 on steam gives you the original 2004 release and the original 2012 BFG rerelease

[quasi silo]

It's on Epic Games Store too

[robust estuary]

And that

[quasi silo]

It's also on Steam, but you can't buy it anymore. Bethesda.net had the DOOM 3 2019 version, so when they migrated to Steam Bethesda owners got DOOM 3: Bethesda.net Edition, aka. DOOM 3 2019. You could also get DOOM II: Bethesda.net Edition this way if you were from Germany

[limber tree]

Wasn't even aware that there's a 2019 edition, mb then

[quasi silo]

Gonna say this so people don't get confused; DOOM 3 here meaning the 2004 version. The 2019 version? Buying it gives you just it, no BFG, no 2004, just 2019

[limber tree]

What's the difference between the original 2004 release and the 2019 version?

[quasi silo]

The 2019 version is a fork of the BFG Edition, it has no multiplayer, no DOOM and DOOM II, but it has fancier shadows

It's the one on PS4, Xbox One, Switch, MS Store, and EGS

[limber tree]

Thanks mate

[quasi silo]

No problem

[limber tree]

Had no idea that was a thing, will defo check this out later tho

[quasi silo]

If you've played the BFG Edition there's no reason to, unless you want to have a complete collection

[limber tree]

I've only played through the 2004 version

BUUUT i wanna try playing through all the doom games and their editions soon

so i'll get a taste of the BFG edition eventually

[quasi silo]

The 2019 version is easier to 100% btw, because it has no multiplayer achievements, but just get a boosting partner and they're easy anyway

[quasi silo]

BFG is very different, so you'll still get a mostly fresh experience

[modest ore]

They should've left the multiplayer in the 2019 version rather than removing it entirely.

[quasi silo]

I'd like if they made it local too

[tall wolf]

doom 3 has co op campaign or only solo ?

[quasi silo]

It had a co-op campaign on the original Xbox

[tall wolf]

only ?

[quasi silo]

Yup

[modest ore]

The BFG Edition's campaign is solo only. The 2019 version has no multiplayer at all. Bummer.

Only the campaign in the OG Xbox version has co-op.

Let's just hope that Microsoft has the source code for the OG Xbox port. That way, there will be a likelihood that a new remaster of Doom 3 will have co-op.

[quasi silo]

Wouldn't Nerve be closer to having it? They did the port

[modest ore]

Actually, it was Vicarious Visions who did the OG Xbox port.

[quasi silo]

Ah, right, oops, got confused because Nerve did RoE

[twin roost]

Hey fellas, I gotta ask. What’s the best patch for doom 3 if you wanna play it in widescreen?

[scenic stratus]

Dhewm 3

[twin roost]

Are you sure because I did download the 1.3.1 patch.

[scenic stratus]

Pretty sure they said they supported widescreen resolutions on the mod page

[scenic stratus]

Steam copy?

[twin roost]

Physical copy

[scenic stratus]

1.3.1 has support for widescreen but you need to enter the config file and change some values

[quasi silo]

Or use dhewm3, both are viable and valid options

[scenic stratus]

Or you can do it in game by opening the console and then restarting the game

The thing is vanilla Doom 3 doesnt have proper widescreen for things like the hud and pda screens

[twin roost]

Oh yeah I forgot to clarify, I have the PC Version.

[kind leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-3-dr-betruger-gif-7579748025984687754

[tall wolf]

Is it possible to play the original doom 3 with a controller on pc ?

Not the bfg edition, not the 2019 edition

[quasi silo]

With dhewm3 or Steam Input, yes

[wise iron]

How is this affecting the game? I chose to transmit the signal
https://youtu.be/eZkVZXpxDGk?si=eCFNAbuEICnkbaew

[scenic stratus]

It literally affects nothing lol

Just a Betruger dialogue in a following level

[crude badger]

How is the doom 3 port on consoles?

[scenic stratus]

It’s basically just the BFG edition but with Bethesda.net compatibility and some slight changes

And obviously doesn’t have Doom1/2 either

[quasi silo]

It's not a port of the original DOOM 3 sadly

[quasi silo]

BFG Edition has them and is BC on modern Xbox consoles, do with that what you want

[scenic stratus]

So it’s okay

Hmm

Didn’t know that

[quasi silo]

It's a fine way to play it for the most part but not optimal

Both versions have ups and downs

[scenic stratus]

I was criticizing the BFG edition earlier but honestly most of the changes are only really apparent when coming right off of playing og Doom 3

You get used to the increased lighting

[quasi silo]

I'd also kinda say most of it is subjective

[scenic stratus]

And I don’t hate the flashlight either

[quasi silo]

I just want ND to make a port where all the changes are toggleable

[scenic stratus]

Main thing that bugs me is just how much ammo there is

Been playing the BFG edition on pc for achievements and like jesus

Ik og Doom 3 wasn’t stingy with ammo but I wasn’t swamped in this much so early

[quasi silo]

Subjective but objectively sucks that it is forced

[scenic stratus]

After I’m done getting the achievements I’m gonna go and play the Enhanced Edition mod with ammo rebalancing

See how that changes the game

[quasi silo]

Good luck doing them all on NM

[scenic stratus]

I’m playing Veteran to unlock nightmare right now so I’m going to get most of them in my first run hopefully

Multiplayer is gonna be the main issue

Doubt anyone plays it still lol

Hate when companies force mp achievements in primarily singleplayer games

[quasi silo]

Not an issue on Xbox because of TA, but when I played on PC I just went to discussions and found someone there

[crude badger]

Does the game run decently

[quasi silo]

It only slows down like once on 360 and One

[crude badger]

Is 3 that much different from 1 and 2?

[scenic stratus]

Yes

It plays very differently

[crude badger]

Its like survival horror aint it?

[scenic stratus]

Eh not really

Resource management is basically non existent

It’s still an action game

You can get some extra goodies via PDA’s and brief backtracking at points but it’s limited

[robust estuary]

Resource management only exists for the guns that aren't the shotgun and maybe the machine gun

[abstract fable]

The 2nd half sorta plays DOOM-ish, but it takes like 3 hours

[robust estuary]

Unless you're in BFG then you're constantly loaded with everything

[scenic stratus]

Yeah

Doom 3’s biggest divergence from classic Doom is de-emphasizing secret hunting and the lack of open arenas which barely exist

It could’ve kept the world building and story elements and still felt more like Doom if it was faithful to those aspects of classic Doom

[abstract fable]

People who want a more "Doomy" experience from DOOM 3, should try Resurrection of Evil I think

[robust estuary]

Think of doom 3 as doing what doom 1 attempted but lacked the hardware to do

[scenic stratus]

Resurrection of Evil tries to have its cake and eat it too and it doesn’t really excel at much because of that imho

[robust estuary]

It takes the more horror-y elements from the original and puts more emphasis on it

[scenic stratus]

It’s still fun

But it was definitely my least favorite Doom campaign out of the trio

[abstract fable]

It's my favorite. Funny enough lol

[scenic stratus]

The only thing I’ll give RoE is that it had the best bosses, I liked the SSG, and the artifact made commandos/shotgunners so much less annoying

[abstract fable]

Also a lot less imp + zombie trap spam

[scenic stratus]

But it’s lacking in that extra flair which made Doom 3 memorable

[crude badger]

No mp is kind of a bummer but whatever its only a few bucks atm

[abstract fable]

Though Vulgars get spammed a lot

[robust estuary]

Mp does exist you just have to mod the game to get it

[scenic stratus]

Criminally low amount of PDA’s or really any of that kind of worldbuilding, doesn’t do much to actually improve the enemy roster mechanically, and the increased focus on speeding up the gameplay trivializes the difficulty and removes that genuine tension I felt while playing base Doom 3.

Plus the Hell levels were so mid in RoE

Delta complex was very cool though

[abstract fable]

Agreed 100% there

[crude badger]

Now downloading it
Gonna see what this game has to offer

[scenic stratus]

Enjoy

It’s not for everyone and has plenty of problems but it scratches an itch no other game I’ve played does tbh

[crude badger]

Should I expect a bunch of cheap jumpscares?

[scenic stratus]

Yes

There’s a comical amount of them

[abstract fable]

Yeah, imp + zombie closet trap spam, and they're very often behind doors as well

[crude badger]

Noted

[scenic stratus]

But I think the actual spookiness of D3 comes from the lighting, music, audio, and level design working together to put you in a lot of stressful situations

Not many games will give you the same feeling you experience seeing zombies and imps disappear into the darkness around you

Lighting in D3 is immaculate

Especially the og release

[crude badger]

I read somewhere its kinda like evil dead in tone, is that true?

[latent saddle]

In a way yes but in my opinion I’d say it’s closer to half life

[scenic stratus]

Ehhh

I think in structure and plot it’s really similar to HL but idk about tone

[latent saddle]

Yea you’re right the tone is different to HL

[scenic stratus]

It’s more like Event Horizon tone wise I guess

[scenic stratus]

I fucking hate vulgar's leaping attack

Some of the body horror and mystery behind who’s evil or not evoke the Thing as well

Trites and Ticks are basically straight out of the Thing

Vulgar’s suck

Really uninspired design and I’m pretty sure they only exist as replacements for the Imps because the devs wanted you to use the grav gun

Bruisers are also pretty overrated imho they basically just function as tougher Mancubi

I prefer the look of base game Lost Souls but Forgotten Ones are a straight upgrade gameplay wise so RoE has that going for it

Also bruisers are a fucking nightmare

Yeah if you get unlucky and are cornered without cover when one spawns in you’re fucked

Aiming for the tv screen makes it possible to kill them in 2 SSG shots though

Plus the wiki says they flinch when the tv screen is shot in the BFG edition

So you can stun lock them apparently

[gloomy compass]

But the problem is, you have to play BFG

[scenic stratus]

its all very self aware tho

game never takes itself too seriously

but it still conveys the tension and stuff, i think this game is very special

[crude badger]

Is marine normal difficulty?

[abstract fable]

I'd say so

[heavy sandal]

Doom 3

[crude badger]

Getting alien vibes

[scenic stratus]

I just wasted Sabbaoth with the soul cube and a single rocket launcher clip lmfao

I love how broken it is along with the maxed-out artifact in RoE

[crude badger]

Just me or is the machine gun kinda weak?

[scenic stratus]

it is pretty weak but use it to soften up enemies from a distance before going in for the killing blow with the shotgun

weapon combos in Doom 3 can be extremely viable

[robust estuary]

Machine gun is useful for the weaker enemies like imps if you don't want to waste shotgun shells or stronger weapons

[crude badger]

Whoever designed the shotgun like this should be fired

[crude badger]

I dont think Ill have to worry about wasting shells lol
The game throws so much ammo at you for no reason

[scenic stratus]

Are you playing BFG Edition

[crude badger]

The 2019 console port which i assume is the bfg edition ported

[scenic stratus]

yeah that explains it

[robust estuary]

Shotgun is your melee equivalent, the only way you're going to safely use it is if you know how the enemy ai works

Shotgun in doom 3 is really fun because its a weapon that actually rewards/expects a level of knowledge of the game to use properly

[scenic stratus]

also it can reliably two shot basically anything weaker than a hell knight

yes, that includes archviles

[crude badger]

That explains it

Its one shot at point blank

[robust estuary]

Mhm

[scenic stratus]

another good tip is to aim slightly above center of mass to make sure you get as many of the pellets in the enemy as possible

you can abuse the silly amount of pellet spread it has like that

skill issue

[gloomy compass]

Spread limit

[misty abyss]

let them have their delusions

[spice coral]

Deadass just bought a second Doom 3 disc for Xbox and ran an ethernet cable across my house to play some co-op.

[scenic stratus]

Nah your aim just sucks

Speedrunners can get revenants down in one shotgun hit reliably with a headshot, if you can't one shot an imp or maggot or low tier enemy that's just skill issue

Besides, I don't know why yall complaining, sometimes not even the og shotgun ones oneshots imps or shotgunners from close range

[misty abyss]

Weapon is , in fact , inconsistent
"Nah bro ur bad"

[gloomy compass]

From distance

[misty abyss]

Regardless of distance*

[gloomy compass]

If you can't aim in the slightest

[misty abyss]

man i love hearing delusional opinions like this

[gloomy compass]

What, that you need to use the shotgun the intended way for it to work?

[misty abyss]

you're missing the point but sure

[gloomy compass]

Really don't see what other point you could be making

[misty abyss]

ofcourse you can't when all you can say is "if you can't aim in the slightest"

shotgun is inconsistent even at point blank

[gloomy compass]

If it's inconsistent you're not at point blank or youre not aiming centre mass as tgeres a spread limit

[misty abyss]

aim at centre of mass
several pellets sometimes miss
"skill issue"

yeah sure

[scenic stratus]

[gloomy compass]

So you're not close enough then

[misty abyss]

yeah yeah sure

[feral relic]

it works, if you know what you're doing #doom-3 message

[scenic stratus]

i like the shotgun

played unbiased

[scenic stratus]

https://youtu.be/e4TiPwTbBh8?si=S-xusfhy3DYvWnAq

[twin roost]

By the way, I’m having trouble playing the game on my PC. Because whenever I press the arrow keys to move, they don’t respond. Any ideas on how to fix this.

[robust estuary]

DOOM 3 uses the WASD setup for movement

Maybe you can rebind them in settings though, not sure

[twin roost]

Ok

[gloomy compass]

The arrow keys? Hwy are you using arrows for doom3

[covert sparrow]

does doom 3 has jumpscares

[robust estuary]

Only if you count an enemy being behind a door as a jumpscare

Otherwise, no not really

[covert sparrow]

is it scary

beside the jumpscares

[robust estuary]

Not really

[covert sparrow]

have u played q4?

[robust estuary]

It tries to be but it isn't very good at it

Nah, haven't played Q4 so idk what that game is like

[covert sparrow]

oh

[scenic stratus]

Nah, you just have an issue caused by your lack of skill, better known as skill issue

[robust estuary]

Doom 3s shotgun is kind of weird to get used to yeah but the rng really isn't as bad as everyone likes to say it is

For every time you don't oneshot something, you have 10 times where you do
It really isn't that inconsistent lol

[scenic stratus]

I can't aim properly=rng

[twin roost]

Laptop PC

[scenic stratus]

I never said it can't, I said it doesn't always

Nah shotgunners too if you miss enough pellets

Just go watch a doom 3 speedrun and see how inconsistent the shotgun is

Smart guy's talking

Also that's literally what I've been saying but it can't be for doom 3, it's the shotgun's problem, not yours because you're using it wrong

[vagrant scarab]

you just gotta use it as a melee weapon

[scenic stratus]

Because they are different weapons? They are polar opposites, the og shotgun is basically a sniper while the doom 3 shotgun is a close range weapon

You dont use it as ranged, you've got other guns for that

[vagrant scarab]

My problem is i like to use rocket launchers like the doom 3 shotgun.

[scenic stratus]

Because you get hit more easily with the shotgun since you have to stay in place? How's that even a real question?

I meant chainsaw

Not shotgun

With the shotgun you can shoot and dodge

It's a different strategy for a different game

You dont play doom eternal like you'd play doom 3 so why treat the game's weapons the same?

Yes but you don't stay still

You charge at them, get close, and move

[robust estuary]

The shotgun kills a lot faster, usually instantly, but the risk in it is that you have to know how the enemy moves

[scenic stratus]

No, you have to stay in place longer

You're way more likely to get hit with a chainsaw

[robust estuary]

The shotgun is not your easy win button like it is in the classic games, you can only be efficient with it if you actually know how the game works
Otherwise you just flail around and get surprised that you were hit

[scenic stratus]

It's not as good since it doesn't stun enemies and they can keep attacking

What's next, the doom 3 bfg sucks?

[vagrant scarab]

Everything sucked for the few days pre duct tape.

[quasi silo]

They meant the weapon

Eh, throw tomatoes at me all you want, but I don't mind it. It sucks that it's basically the only option on console (I have 2004 on PC though), but it's not a BAD way to play it, just not the BEST

[scenic stratus]

Nah the doom 3 bfg is different from the other bfgs

You should watch a video which explains how it works

[quasi silo]

Does the BFG work like that too in RAGE 2?

[scenic stratus]

I have no idea how the one in rage 2 works

#doom-3 message

It has splash damage

[scenic stratus]

Thank you

Go watch the video

[quasi silo]

Aside from that smexy ASMR reload

[scenic stratus]

So it's the same from any other game with its 4 phase charge which adds a multiplier to damage?

[crude badger]

How likely is a doom 3 remaster like the new doom 1 and 2 ports?

[quasi silo]

Somewhere down the middle I'd say

It's not unlikely but not likely either

[vagrant scarab]

some bfgs target through walls also

I think there is a good video somewhere comparing all of them even then remasters

[scenic stratus]

My first playthrough of Dhewm 3 I ended up not using most of my BFG ammo cause I saved it all for boss encounters and it didn’t take that much to kill them

[vagrant scarab]

i would like to see a video trying to get a real shotgun to spread like the doom 3 shotgun. might need to suggest that to taufledermouse youtube channel.

When I was a child my grandpa would give me and my cousin a random box of 12 gauge reloads and we would go xmas tree hunting not knowing what would come out of the shell or how much powder was in it. I don't know how we survived the 80s.

[scenic stratus]

Supposedly the shotgun has worse accuracy than a 17th century blunderbuss

So good luck with that lmao

[quasi silo]

Bertruger made all the shotguns shit in preparation for the invasion, source: trust me

[brisk viper]

the shotgun in doom 3 is fine imo

people just gotta shoot it like an actual shotgun, upclose.

[quasi silo]

Just realised I've been misspelling Betruger's name my whole life, FML

[scenic stratus]

We call him Bert now

[brisk viper]

atleast i remember The shotgun being pretty good the rare times i played Doom 3

[quasi silo]

It's good if you use it right, but you gotta know how to do that

[brisk viper]

pretty sure i could oneshot A good chunk of the monsters

maybe even a revenant.

[scenic stratus]

It’s not unusable just not great either

[brisk viper]

imo the grenades are the weapons i didnt really like.

[scenic stratus]

Best used up close and with a lot of dodging

Play aggressive, get up close, shoot, and back up

[quasi silo]

There's only been one enemy I tried to kill with a shotgun and just couldn't so I was forced to switch to a pistol, other times I just willingly switched to another weapon like the Plasma Rifle to take them out more effectively, though most of my kills WERE with the shotgun

[scenic stratus]

They’re great against pinkies

[quasi silo]

Grenades carried me a lot, they're good against the Chaingun Commandos

[scenic stratus]

Also can blow up shotgunners and commandos without putting yourself in the line of fire

They’re definitely more niche than most of the other weapons but have their place

[quasi silo]

I'm willing to bet the least used weapon is the Grabber

It's nice and cool, I just wish they would've done more with it

[scenic stratus]

That or fists lol

[brisk viper]

im kinda curious what a barron of hell in doom 3 wouldve been like

[quasi silo]

Fists aren't weapons

The PDA lists them under inventory though which is pretty stupid

[scenic stratus]

There’s actually a cut model of it called the Birdman

Looks weird I’ll post it

[quasi silo]

Beat you to it

[brisk viper]

just googled it

[quasi silo]

Beat you to it, @scenic stratus

[quasi silo]

Dang, YOU beat us BOTH to it

[scenic stratus]

[brisk viper]

i have a typing speed of 135 words per minute.

[quasi silo]

I'll do a test rq

[scenic stratus]

The D3HDP mod lets you install a optional file to replace the Hell Knights with the Baron model

It’s neat

[brisk viper]

according to a few websites atleast-

((although im a bit slower on the phone-))

[brisk viper]

noice!

what about the spider mastermind?

[quasi silo]

117 WPM but I bet I could do more

I'll try again

[scenic stratus]

Doesn’t have it

[quasi silo]

I got a lower score when I tried harder lmfao

[scenic stratus]

The same mod I mentioned also has files that let you swap out the classic armor with BFG armor + a helmet and replace the pistol/shotgun/machine gun with high res versions of the E3 models

[brisk viper]

i think i have an advantage due to memorizing every button placement on a computer keyboard

[scenic stratus]

Changes the audio for the pistol and machine gun too

[quasi silo]

I do that too

There's a difference between the armors?

[brisk viper]

overall not much of a doom 3 player. i played the og on the computer as a kid but was always too scared. nowadays i beat resurrection of evil ((bfg edition))

my older brother plays it alot tho, Beat it on the hardest difficulty and collected everything

[quasi silo]

NM 100% is an impressive feat

[brisk viper]

he says the game on nightmare mode is Do-able. its The sabaoth boss thats always the hardest for him

[scenic stratus]

Key to Sabaoth is just save the soul cube for him

[quasi silo]

Anything is do-able, doesn't mean it's easy

[scenic stratus]

Then finish him off with a few rpg shots

[brisk viper]

that was his strat too.

[quasi silo]

His BFG drains your health pretty much instantly on NM

[scenic stratus]

Ah

[quasi silo]

I have a love-hate relationship with that design

It's meant to be scary, and it can do that with proper lighting and scenery, but it just looks like he melted on top of it like cheese

[scenic stratus]

The mini tank is goofy

But flesh melded with machinery is pretty offputting to me

So I like the idea

[quasi silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246106122566373407/1272666505573830767/med_doom_3_vr_edition_50994114738_e04b4e9fc5_o_1a30714e-3f41-4c8a-b5da-7125b441ea78.png?ex=66bbce8b&is=66ba7d0b&hm=e5bfbcf7ace7cf1adad138e33907161be833550fc781b8c0edbb57198ddb3ccf&

Official DOOM 3: VR Edition screenshot, you can't tell me this doesn't look fairly good and scary

[scenic stratus]

Plus Kelly is probably one of my favorite doom 3 mysteries

Fun to speculate when he turned

[brisk viper]

Personally i feel like the boss fights Arent much in the OG doom 3. i prefer Resurrection of evil's bosses

[quasi silo]

I just really do not imagine how he got into this state though

[scenic stratus]

Hell magic

[brisk viper]

will there ever be A Playstation Vr 2 version? :0

[quasi silo]

They're all fun to me, but then again, not a single DOOM boss I hate

[quasi silo]

Haha, no :D

[brisk viper]

<:[

whoever made vr games not compatible with vr2 is the equivalent of betruger

[quasi silo]

Or... hear me out... they turned him into those "let's turn this character into slime" videos and yeeted him onto a tank

[scenic stratus]

Must’ve been Betruger’s inspiration

[quasi silo]

The Maledict is a sick design but the goofy ass neck Betruger has when his head sticks out throws me off a bit

If they made it a flaming skull inside of The Maledict like the Lost Souls in the Pain Elemental it'd be way cooler

[brisk viper]

like having its spine slither out the jaw with each row of the bones flaming? like a lost soul but with a spine-tail?

or too much?

[quasi silo]

I was imagining him just opening his mouth with a skull inside it, but that's a bit goofy too

[scenic stratus]

Betruger being the literal tongue of the Maledict is meant to be symbolic

Plus I think it looks fine

[quasi silo]

I just hope they bring him back, DOOM: Annihilation sucks but it was setting up a Maledict return

[brisk viper]

im confused. is maledict betruger or is betruger just it's tounge

[scenic stratus]

could be kinda like they did the pain elemental sprite with a lost soul in it

[quasi silo]

I know, it's a cool detail, but it's just a bit... eh

[scenic stratus]

i was also put off by the head sticking out

[brisk viper]

idk im no doom 3 lore expert

[scenic stratus]

Just it’s tongue most likely

[quasi silo]

It's complicated, ask m0no

[scenic stratus]

so much effort to become a tongue

[quasi silo]

I've seen some people in old forums theorize it was his punishment for his actions by Hell

[brisk viper]

my brother kept telling me the lore but ngl. i forget most of it. all i know is betruger was promised power if he aids the demons in conquering the earth?

[scenic stratus]

The Maledict is an entity that predates Betruger. Betruger made a pact with Hell to gain power in exchange for giving them the soul cube and initiating the Mars invasion

The Maledict was likely this entity he made a deal with

[quasi silo]

Olivia and Davoth

[scenic stratus]

M0no speculates he’s the Dark Lord of the Third Age

[quasi silo]

That's... pretty damn cool, actually

[brisk viper]

wait i thought there was only one dark lord?

the doom eternal one-

[scenic stratus]

He’s THE Dark Lord

But there’s been 4 Dark Lords that have ruled in his stead

[brisk viper]

lemme guess

[scenic stratus]

Since he was a disembodied voice during that timespan

[brisk viper]

maledict
the final boss in doom 64
icon of sin
who else?

[scenic stratus]

Spider Mastermind in 2016

[brisk viper]

ohhh

[scenic stratus]

Heavily implied to be the Aranea Imperatrix that’s the current Dark Lord

Idk about the Icon being a Dark Lord though

[quasi silo]

(fancy word for Spider Mastermind from 2016)

[scenic stratus]

Olivia being sacrificed was what allowed the Imperatrix to take physical form

Just happened to come out like a Spider Demon I guess

[quasi silo]

I haven't really ever dug too deep into DOOM lore but this is plenty interesting

[scenic stratus]

Unironically probably not too far off

I think it was meant more as a mockery though

[quasi silo]

I mean yeah, they could've just let him possess the guy

[scenic stratus]

Like a lot of people say that Betruger got such a better deal than Olivia but I don’t think becoming a literal mouth piece for a demonic entity for all of eternity is that great

[quasi silo]

At least he was put out of his misery by RoE guy

[scenic stratus]

He has no agency really

Just forced to speak for the Maledict

[scenic stratus]

True

[quasi silo]

I noticed he uses we and us instead of I and me

[scenic stratus]

Yeah I think Betruger’s consciousness and memories are still there

[quasi silo]

"The Slayer's story is so tragic..." yeah okay man but is he integrated into a mouth?

Good thing that thing probably doesn't eat, they have no toothpaste in Hell I bet so he'd reek of shit

[scenic stratus]

Prob reeks of shit anyways

[scenic stratus]

there are no bacteria in hell cause theyre morally neutral

Mf ain’t taking showers

[quasi silo]

He's pretty bald though so at least less sweat

[scenic stratus]

Bald people don’t sweat

[quasi silo]

Fuck, meant to write less sweat lol

Well I look kinda dumb now, so switching the topic

@scenic stratus what did you think of The Lost Mission?

[scenic stratus]

I liked it a lot

Played it in the 2004 D3 engine through mods

[quasi silo]

I'm yet to get around to D3 2004

[scenic stratus]

does it work exactly as in bfg?

So lighting, UI, and some mechanics are in line with the classic D3

[scenic stratus]

The flashlight is a separate item but otherwise I’d think so

Idk if ammo drops were adjusted or not

[feral relic]

is there any way to enable eax in redux mod? if i load redux in classic d3 or dhewm, then eax is disabled and i am unable to turn it on

[scenic stratus]

Lost Mission is better than RoE imho

alr i was thinking more about the cutscenes and scripts and stuff

[quasi silo]

It's more compact and pretty good all around, though I like all 3 campaigns

TLM lets you use the Soul Cube on NM

[scenic stratus]

I haven’t played the BFG version yet so I can’t say for sure but it should be, given it’s meant to be a faithful recreation

nice

i'll do it with that

It’s surprisingly good for something that you’d expect to be equivalent to some fan made campaign mod

They did bring in new actors which is kind of noticeable because base D3 and RoE uses mostly the same ones for NPC’s and PDA audio logs

But it doesn’t bother me

Good thing about the LM mod for D3 og is that a lot of texture and rebalancing mods take it into account as well

And it’s perfectly compatible with Dhewm 3 ofc

Community basically treats it as if it’s as official as Doom 3 and RoE which is awesome

[quasi silo]

I've always liked the Hell Knight being basically THE demon in this one

[scenic stratus]

yea its kinda like nrftl

[turbid mica]

I’ve tried this before and diddnt get to far into it

Too slow, and not just In comparison to doom games

[quasi silo]

Fair enough, but you say that last part like it ISN'T a DOOM game lol

[scenic stratus]

You can play D3 at a fairly fast pace tbh

Just play aggressive

And don’t bother with most of the PDA reading

[turbid mica]

I don’t like how weak the weapons feel

Like how you need to mag dump the MG to kill a zombie

[scenic stratus]

Shotgun time

Most of the weapons are pretty good

Machine Gun does have a tinge of peashooter syndrome but it’s alright

[turbid mica]

Fair enough

[tall wolf]

what are the pros and cons of punching with your first and with the flashlight ?

on the original doom 3

[acoustic acorn]

flash bonk is double damage but slightly slower than punching.(40 damage and 1 hit per second flashlight VS 20 damage and 1.4 hit per second punch)

[dreamy stratus]

i just bought bfg edition but it says "access is denied" whenever i try to launch it. i have a feeling this isn't the type of issue you guys have experience with but i figured it might be worth a shot to ask anyways

if you guys cant help with that do you have any tips on how to get the regular edition of doom 3 into a reasonable modern resolution? i cant get rid of the black bars.

[crude badger]

I love this chainsaw
Its sound design and model is perfect

[scenic stratus]

download a source port called dhewm3

(this is for the original version)

(which is better)

[scenic stratus]

Just treat the shotgun like a melee weapon

[heavy sandal]

is it jus me or did any yall get doom 3 cuz u heard the main menu song in the doom fortress

prob jus me

[scenic stratus]

Nah but I played it because of that theme

so kinda but I don't think I have it in Eternal yet

[heavy sandal]

yeh

[frigid pond]

Anyone on here interested in helping out with the achievement "2 Deaths - 1 Gun"? I believe it would take 4 people minimum. Message me if interested.

[quasi silo]

It needs 3

[frigid pond]

Even better

[crude badger]

Are the two expansions worth checking out?

[robust estuary]

RoE and LM? Yeah, they're both pretty good
VERY short though, probably not even half the length of the main game in LMs case

[scenic stratus]

You can finish lost mission in an hour

[sleek osprey]

Anyone who owns Doom 3 BFG Edition on Xbox 360 and willing to help get the multiplayer achievements please add me. Can plan a day to grind them out in the near future!

[jolly tangle]

up next, we need a doom 3 rerelease that changes nothing about ammo or brightness, like an update to the og engine or something

[modest ore]

Hopefully they'll leave the multiplayer in rather than remove it entirely like they did with the 2019 version.

[quasi silo]

Use TrueAchievements, it's good for stuff like this

If you have nobody else willing to do it on TA (I personally found one user but needed two for one of the achievements) hit me up

[frigid pond]

I'm assuming if I am on PC that the multiplayer isn't cross-platform. Otherwise, I'd love to help.

[quasi silo]

It isn't, unfortunately

[crude badger]

Doom 3 campaign coop with 16 people

[lost ice]

That would be nice.

The fact doom 3 takes place in space marine base.

But we are the only survivor..

[robust estuary]

16 shotgunners
That lone imp is cooked

[lost ice]

Yes

Gone, turned into dust haha.

[crude badger]

It would probably only be 4 or something if it did ever happen
16 people trying to get in a room with the less open levels would be chaotic af

[robust estuary]

Everyone fighting for their life trying to get into the teleporters

Bonus chaos if you turn friendly fire on

[crude badger]

How was ammo in the og version?

[robust estuary]

A bit more scarce, but you weren't super short of most of it

Except maybe the chaingun, for some reason they didn't like giving you chaingun ammo very much

[rough current]

hello, came here to see if there was any special mention on D3's 20th anniversary

looks like there wasn't

but anyways, the date inspired me to work some more on this guy:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/488393514690805790/1269048361420591186/image.png?ex=66bc7ca3&is=66bb2b23&hm=59a41ed3d0173caabf98d5893b8e7c05ed1a577e0d0d5cf9ef0dc70419254933&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/488393514690805790/1269058034001510510/image.png?ex=66bc85a5&is=66bb3425&hm=3a2e8dfee21a86e68ab00e33d01c33bd7c29b2a281012e9fc8b34ec6dffe2a4e&

[tight marsh]

hey what version of the game should i play, i get that bfg is a rerelease but is resurrection of evil ALSO a rerelease but with more guns or is it something to play after i beat one of the other versions?

[misty abyss]

RoE is a direct follow up to main game

[tight marsh]

awesome thank you sorry for dumb question

[robust estuary]

RoE is an expansion for Doom 3. If you have it on steam, the separate game in your library is the original release of RoE.

BFG edition is a remaster of Doom 3 and includes a remastered version of RoE in it.