#doom-3

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livid wharf
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Doom Eternal includes a bunch of recolors as cosmetic options

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well, almost every demon that re-appears in modern Doom is faster than they originally were

livid wharf
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Yeah modern Doom gives the player some ridiculous options so the enemies often need to be faster to keep up

wraith pumice
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we already got Macibus doing that job

wraith pumice
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perhaps I'm blind but I don't really remember the nuDoom Mancubi moving fast

vernal crest
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even the modern Doom can't make them fast lol

wraith pumice
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I wonder how Maggots could work as a nuDoom enemy

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I'd imagine they'd use their tongues to swing around

warm panther
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Hello fellow doom fans

livid wharf
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I really want cherubs to return in some form on the grounds that they’re the creepiest Doom monsters and deserve a chance to disturb NuDoom fans

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wraith pumice
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perhaps Doom 3 is in the same universe, but you are a different marine

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# wraith pumice perhaps Doom 3 is in the same universe, but you are a different marine

well, 3 was a reboot, a retelling of the original story. So Doom Marine would be an alternative ver of DoomGuy, so technically speaking they are the same character, but a different person (basically imagine meeting your alt self, yeah). 3 did too good of a job of being a reboot and "pretending Doom 1 and 2 never happened", which is why multiverses exist now, so while Doom 2016 originally continued to in the same universe the 3 was set in, while bring the first DoomGuy back from the Classicverse (lol), Eternal decided to cut it

scenic stratus
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Doom Eternals armor is my favorite in the franchise

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3’s armor kind of just looks like a mess imo

vernal crest
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I'd say it's kind of the opposite, although I do like some features Eternal one has. Plus the one in 3 that Doom Marine wears is suppost to be for civilians, because UAC is cheap (which says something considering that one of the problems were a lack of troops)

scenic stratus
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yea fuck uac

vernal crest
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it's funny to imagine that the UAC and life on mars is so bad to the point where people were not only predicting that hell would come, but some were even glad it happened. But it's also sad because the UAC is pretty realistic

scenic stratus
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The texture work is just very shoddy, which is a partly product of its time but still

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I’ll never get the eternal praetor hate that armor is near perfect

vernal crest
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because it looks really off, and the colors are weird (also the Slayer having the blade means that every skin ID creates will have that blade)

scenic stratus
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A doom 3 skin in DE would’ve been neat even if there’d have to be some adjustments

rose field
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i like the deternal suit, but classic skin in deternal is the pinnacle of doom suits imo

scenic stratus
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I only really like the Eternal and 2016 Praetor suits

rose field
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wait nvm, quake 3 arena exists

scenic stratus
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Classic Doom skins are cool but I usually don’t have them on

rose field
vernal crest
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and even Kira's/major's from Doom 2 RPG, even if I prefer the armor she had in the unfinished comic more than the in-game one

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wraith pumice
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I really like the design of the Doom 3 marine suit

vernal crest
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gurl same

wraith pumice
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wish it was remade for Eternal

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just imagine battlemode skins for the Revenant and Mancubus that makes them resemble their Doom 3 versions

vernal crest
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something I just realized, in the storyboard of TMOD3 book, Betruger waited for Doom Marine at the end, and that's where the game was suppost to end. It obviously got changed to Cyberdemon waiting for him ||with a very nice introduction|| and the reasoning behind it was "to allow more options for future Doom games". So originally Doom Marine wasn't (likely) going to have his kill stolen by ROEguy

scenic stratus
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the resurrection of evil guy is the same guy from the main game right? the one who gives us order at the start of the game

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i cant remember his name or if he even had one

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scenic stratus
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nono not the doom marine, the one who gives us orders at the start of the game

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k

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#screenshots nope that's Campbell, and he died in the base game

scenic stratus
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ah oof

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so is there nothing about roe guy?

vernal crest
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pretty sad to see how little screentime he had

scenic stratus
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well there isnt anything about doom marine either

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scenic stratus
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ah

vernal crest
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although it's writen like it's a Doom novel, and the personality Doom Marine had in it is.... as dumb as Flynn was

scenic stratus
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lol

vernal crest
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no seriously, he suggest a theory to Kelly that zombies are "drog addicts who had too much"

scenic stratus
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bruh lmao

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i think bro had too much

vernal crest
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yeah, and Kelly's just like "yeah sure, anyway here's your mission" and tells him to fuck off politely

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vernal crest
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actually Kelly is somewhat nicer in it than he was in the game

scenic stratus
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ye

zinc schooner
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what map software was used to create the maps?

supple gull
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LMguy needs more appreciation

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livid wharf
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That doesn’t seem especially impressive to me.

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Well at least it's there

livid wharf
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Yeah it’s presumably a neat moment but I’d be really disappointed in any soldier who couldn’t kill a mid tier demon with the most powerful gun in the game.

wraith pumice
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I deleted my message after realizing how stupid of a statement it is

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Molly was talking about what I said

slim willow
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Everyone gangsta until the Marine gets added to Mighty Doom

vernal crest
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Then it's double gangsta with the Slayer and him

honest lynx
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Doom 3 shotgun in Mighty doom

brisk aurora
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Mighty Doom becomes controversial due to a weapon yet again

wraith pumice
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Cherubs in Mighty Doom xd

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it would be interesting seeing them as a toy

vernal crest
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turning something that was already cute which was turned into creepy being turned into cute, nice

wraith pumice
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ironically, Cherubs are generally considered angelic beings

scenic stratus
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Cherubs feel almost out of place when paired with all the other demons it’s weird

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They’re cool though

wraith pumice
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though it's hardly noticeable, Maggots have knives on their back

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shit I posted the wrong link

wraith pumice
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Maggots and Wraiths are the coolest looking new Doom 3 enemies imo

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wraith pumice
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true

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Doom 3's hell is very atmospheric. there's constant cries and screams of the damned

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Lost Mission's hell environments are just amazing

slim willow
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3’s Hell was easily the best

livid wharf
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My favorite Doom Hell is the original’s. It’s much more abstract but it feels oppressive and suffocating while maintaining fast combat

vernal crest
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it's surprising to know that we don't spend much time in hell in Classic's either, it's ether mars, or mars with hell's influence

scenic stratus
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Deimos is one of Mars' moons

vernal crest
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but isn't Deimos on the other side of mars as another base? Or am I wrong

scenic stratus
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Phobos is the other moon

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vernal crest
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I'll have to replay E2 and 3 to check

scenic stratus
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while Deimos is above hell in Doom, the maps are techbases with Hell influence

vernal crest
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so it is basically moon with hell's influence

scenic stratus
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3’s hell is basically fire and brimstone to a tea. Love it personally.

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I do like the hell forests and red sky backdrops of the originals hell

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honest lynx
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Probably the best hell for me

scenic stratus
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i also love how enemy spawn in after a whisper and lightning

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very demonic game

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best spawn animation

honest lynx
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The whole vibe captures that demonic feel

vernal crest
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if only it had some of the D64's ambience, it would've been a 10/10 for me. It is kinda too relaxing

wraith pumice
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the Tentacle Commandos are cool tbh

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I never often see enemies in fps games that require you to crouch to avoid their attacks

supple gull
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I like how Commandos were both a modernized rendition of the classic Chaingun Bob, and a new enemy. Only thing that puzzled me was that they all wore WWII German helmets (which was weird because the first guy we see turning into one wasn't wearing a helmet).

wraith pumice
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really though, can you guys think of any other fps enemy where you have to crouch to avoid its attacks?

vernal crest
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and this is in the same universe where they made a deal with hell itself for their energy

scenic stratus
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The commando helmets were pretty weird

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Fun fact: gatling gun commandos are also a lot smaller than the tentacle ones

wraith pumice
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I know that

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wraith pumice
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smaller but more tanky babe

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"Size doesn't matter Marine" - Betruger, 16.11.2145.

wraith pumice
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I’m pretty sure most chaingun ammo you get is from the Commandos

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the only line Commandos say that I remember is “Die!”

vernal crest
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they also say "You" and "You will die"

scenic stratus
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GUYS I THINK I FIGURED OUT HOW DOOM 3 TAKES PLACE IN THE TIMELINE

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wraith pumice
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one notable thing about Commandos is that unlike other former human enemies, their bodies disappear in the same way as demons

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so that means Betruger literally turned humans into demons

scenic stratus
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so after doom 64, doomguy went to hell to “retire”. And he eventually ends up on sentinel prime with the sentinels. So in that time, it’s possible that another marine was fighting the forces of hell while doomguy was in sentinel prime.

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Or while he was in the sarcophagus

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livid wharf
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That’s basically what can canonically happened

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Main thing is that it was a different Earth even though it’s the same Hell

wraith pumice
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livid wharf
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The original plan was enemies just didn’t disappear, same as the first 2 games. This was a performance issue so that changed course

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# scenic stratus Ohhhh ok

originally Doom 2016 was going to take place in the same universe as 3's, it did that while still connecting previous games, however Eternal cut that when it came out

wraith pumice
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ironically, new id constantly makes references to Doom 3, but excluded it from the timeline

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livid wharf
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I assume it’s because they opted to not deal with how RoE would mess with things

vernal crest
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eh, ROE doesn't really mess with it

livid wharf
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How do I convert an extracted pk4 back to into a pk4?

rose field
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aren't pk4s just glorified zips or were those just pk3s

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in that case, just turn it into a zip and rename the file extension

livid wharf
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Okay

ruby harbor
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What is in the vagary's butt

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Is that supposed to be like a fetus or something

livid wharf
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I think it’s supposed to be a fetal mancubus. For some reason

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wraith pumice
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I'd say ROE boss fights are better than base Doom 3's

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especially the Maledict. it's challenging and has a good variety of attacks

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and the Helltime Hunter is cool too, even though it's mostly a tutorial for the grabber

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meanwhile in base Doom 3, Sabaoth can be killed in 5 seconds and the Cyberdemon is a joke

vernal crest
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if only the original plan for Sabaoth didn't "get lost in translation"

wraith pumice
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gonna be honest, Kelly's transformation into Sabaoth happens out of nowhere

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he tells you to meet him in the delta labs, only to disappear then Campbell tells you he turned evil

vernal crest
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well, if you listen to the tone he speaks in when he tells you to meet him, you can notice how it's westly different from how he spoke before, so his transformation was probably starting after he calls you

scenic stratus
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Kelly’s transformation is one of the more disturbing aspects of doom 3 imho

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You can notice something is slightly off when talking to him shortly before losing contact, and it’s left ambiguous what exactly happened to him when he went silent

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scenic stratus
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We just see the end result and it’s monstrous. It leads to some conspiracy theories on if he was ever really on our side as well.

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Although I’m more inclined to believe he probably was and just thought contacting the fleet was a smart tactical move

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wraith pumice
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he wanted reinforcements from earth to come to mars

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wraith pumice
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the demons could have used their ships to come to earth and wreck it too

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scenic stratus
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Tbf Z-sec seemed pretty capable they’re using guns and barrel rolling around to dodge gunfire

vernal crest
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well, it's one thing to shoot a gun, and another to drive a ship. Demons do know how to drive ships, but in humans eyes they were more of an "dangerous alien animals"

scenic stratus
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True

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Kelly secretly manipulating us into helping the demons is some fun headcanon tbh not much else to it

vernal crest
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there's theories about Kelly working for demons from the start, but it's a pretty flawed one, not to mention people only pointing to the transmission thing and nothing else

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I was reading some of TMOD3 book and even there he's not displayed as bad

wraith pumice
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''Welcome to the mess hall!''

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  • Thomas Kelly, 16.11.2145.
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This pre release footage looks pretty cool

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Really prefer all the enemies already being present in the environment and not instantly disappearing after being killed

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scenic stratus
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I know

vernal crest
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even Eternal does it, from my memory at least

scenic stratus
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Are there any mods that attempt to change that?

wraith pumice
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ungibbable

vernal crest
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mhm, tons

scenic stratus
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Nice

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Also is it just me or does the pre release shotgun look way better

wraith pumice
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it really does

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there's an alpha shotgun mod actually

dull wigeon
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It looks more generic to me

scenic stratus
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Does look more like a stereotypical shotgun. Reminds me of halo reach’s shotgun especially. Not a bad thing though.

wraith pumice
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when that Commando said he smells fear, he was referring to his comrade's fear of the marine

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Doom 3's alpha predicted that one feature from 2016 back in 2002

dull wigeon
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wraith pumice
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a Hell Knight fatally wounds the marine, says ''I will eat you!'', grabs his head as his body falls on the floor then eats it

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subtle sparrow
honest lynx
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Much wise

slim willow
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Is TMOD3 available for purchase

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slim willow
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Checked, it is

ruby harbor
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Did you guys use the services bridges or EFR

vernal crest
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Using different ones per save, you either get a parkour session, or the session where every demon is shooting your way

slim willow
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Service bridges

wraith pumice
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I wonder if the Vulgar and crawling Imp have any differences

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the crawling Imp appears a few times in Lost Mission

dull wigeon
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Can't believe they never used crawling Imps inside ducts where you need to crawl. It could be really tense

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wraith pumice
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I guess it's why ID chose not to include it in the game then

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wraith pumice
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the Lost Souls in this game sure look unique

thorn cosmos
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lost souls are the bane of my existence

wraith pumice
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the Pinky Demon and Lost Soul are probably the most changed Classic Doom enemies in Doom 3 design-wise

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the Pinky Demon doesn't look like its classic counterpart at all, looking like a cybernetic dog and the Lost Soul is a woman head instead of a skull

thorn cosmos
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yeah I don't understand why they felt the need to give the pinky robotic legs

wraith pumice
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just imagine Spectres being in Doom 3 💀

thorn cosmos
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ooof

vernal crest
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hold on lemme get the sketch

thorn cosmos
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honestly I like that better than the robot legs

vernal crest
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still looks weird to me in a non-good way, maybe if the muscles were bigger

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it feels more like a puppy, rather than a bulldog

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(would still pet-)

wraith pumice
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I never understood why Pinkies are so rare in Doom 3

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they are some of the most common enemies in Classics, yet they barely appear in 3

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vernal crest
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I guess since the mapping in 3 is more claustrophobic, but then again Classic Doom had a lot of claustrophobic moments so, I dunno

wraith pumice
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it's not like they are that fast

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and you can usually kill them with 2-3 shotgun blasts

vernal crest
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they are as slow as they were in Classic Doom really

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livid wharf
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Don’t forget that cacodemons look nothing like their classic design either

scenic stratus
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the imps and revenants look very similar to the og

wraith pumice
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Mancubi look similar too

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aside from the cthulhu face

scenic stratus
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yep except for octopus face

wide pollen
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the shooting in this game feel got

wraith pumice
scenic stratus
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looks like bro got silicon coating

wraith pumice
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imagine a Doom 3 Revenant skin for Eternal Revenant xd

scenic stratus
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doom eternal has a mod that switches the demon models to 2016 ones

wraith pumice
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wait really?

scenic stratus
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they also gave eternal exclusive demons the 2016 look

wraith pumice
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the Mecha Zombie looks like a terminator lol

scenic stratus
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ye lol

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holy shit tyrants look cool as fuck

honest lynx
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Makes everything Grey and white.. ahh yes.. doom 2016

scenic stratus
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baron caco imps all look like 2016 ones

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its hard to see the hell baron's face

wraith pumice
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I like the 2016 Baron more but the Fireborne Barons look cool in their own way

stable stratus
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ugh all I know is I am currently upscaling all the OG textures to true 4096x4096...atm currently working on all the bloody normal/height maps

cedar jetty
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i never liked doom 3 imo it was always weird ig

stable stratus
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then again im sumone with a taste for story and not necessarily just the action

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and well its obvious 3 is the most story driven in the franchise imho.

yes 2016 and Eternal come bundled with a story buuut you cant deny they are driven more by the action than the story

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3 did what no other entry in the franchise dared to do and well

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if I want a game that lacks story and just run and gun the entire time...thats what Wolfenstein is for...it doesnt need a story cus you know the story...unlike Doom where you dont know anything

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wraith pumice
slim willow
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Yep

wraith pumice
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rip

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it's pretty much abandonware

slim willow
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Someone should port it to PC like Doom RPG, if it's possible

cedar jetty
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im surprised doom 3 is updsting rn

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# stable stratus 3 did what no other entry in the franchise dared to do and well

well, Classic Doom still had a story, hell 3 is a retelling of the original with some changes, while it expands on some things like the UAC (and taking a lot of things from Doom bible apparently). Doom 2016 was more of a recoloring of 3's story but not as cool (expect for Hayden, he was awesome in D2016) and Eternal is.... honestly a mess

stable stratus
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well hopefully sumtime next weekend ill be able to share photos of the OG Doom 3 running with true 4096x4096 textures

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dont have much to show of the progress atm as im currently working on all the normal/height maps

ruby harbor
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Doom 3 is updating?

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I don't see anything

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livid wharf
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Having now played a bit with Weapons of Mars Destruction, I really like this mod’s version of the Doom 3 arsenal. I particularly like the reworked pistol. My own idea for a pistol rework was to make the clip size really small and make shots do a lot more damage, but being able to spray with it is a better change

rain ginkgo
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Anybody here still play Doom 3 and/or Dhewm3 multiplayer?

scenic stratus
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I’d like if the pistol didn’t sound like someone scratching plastic

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well im hoping by this sunday ill finally have all the heightmaps for OG Doom 3 fully upscaled to true 4096x4096...as then I can start work on the actual textures for the models/maps

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yall may enjoy those "HD" texture packs...but yeah...they are still too blurry/low res for me personally...hense 4k is the name of my game

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I have this year been the guy taking old games like Doom 3 and Rune Classic + Forsaken Remastered and maken them all true 4k quality without deterring from their source material

wraith pumice
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the ragdolls in this game are quite good

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it’s fun seeing enemies being sent to the sky after killing them with the rocket launcher

south dirge
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Playing this game for the first time on Veteran is a challenge

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wraith pumice
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their corpses stack up in og

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while in the BFG Edition they just clip through one another

vernal crest
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Another reason to not get the Big Fucking Gus Edition

wraith pumice
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also, if you manage to gib 2 zombies at the same time, one of them doesn’t fully gib, it gets beheaded

narrow badge
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How do you 3 fans feel about the next Doom being slower paced? Hugo mentioned this

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wait really?

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I'm assuming he said it in a live stream, right?

livid wharf
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He said something to that effect. I feel Eternal took the idea of speed a bit too far so I’m in favor of dialing back that element a bit

vernal crest
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I remember American McGee saying that there's too much adrenaline in it (basically that he doesn't enjoy the adrenaline running through his blood, he doesn't shame people who do, but it's not for him)

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scenic stratus
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doom 2016's pace felt good

livid wharf
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Yeah I think 2016 hit the right balance. There’s intense action but it consistently give you breaks between big fights and exploration is still a real part of the game

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mhm, plus, there's no too much parkour

livid wharf
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The platforming doesn’t bother me but it does feel like Eternal tries to use it as a substitute for incidental combat, which it can’t properly do

ruby notch
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Damb maybe try getting gud

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Jk jk

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For real tho yea there’s a lot of parkour and platforming for me personally, I like all the platforming and stuff in eternal

livid wharf
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Mostly I find the onslaught of huge arenas without good small fights exhausting. The tension-release cycle never gets a proper release (not consistently at least). Minor scraps happen but they’re generally very poorly designed

ruby notch
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Some parts of the game with smaller more consistent fights I thought were better i feel that it’s a lot better for gamers who aren’t as skilled to get through a whole horde than some others too

livid wharf
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A lot of Eternal levels end up feeling like one huge fight to me due to being especially bad about this. I end up dreading those levels bec of it. For my money the worst offenders are Cultist Base and Terras Nabad.

scenic stratus
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i actually really like argent tower's platforming

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a little amount of parkour here and there isnt bothering at all

livid wharf
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Argent Facility is probably my favorite modern Doom level.

scenic stratus
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Cultist Base is a pretty bad example of this honestly. There’s a fair amount of smaller scale fights that don’t take much from the player, including the revenant drone arena. That plus the platforming creates a lot of places where you get to catch your breath.

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Maybe 2016 gets better at this but the smaller scale fights so far aren’t really that amazing either

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So far anyways

rain ginkgo
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If they made a new Doom game similar to Doom 3 I'd be interested, Doom 3 has always been my favorite of the series, sometimes I enjoy the fast-pace of the other games but something about D3 draws me in more. Oh and D3 multiplayer is fun af, last man standing on lights out is phenomenal

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icy bobcat
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that crazy

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well I am still working on my true 4k pack for the base OG Doom 3 and its expansion but I did manage to finish the true 4k pack for the Lost Mission mod for them

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those curious that mod is usually 280MB...with my 4k pack its expanded to 11.4GB in size

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and yes Doom 3 especially the OG version is capable of 4k quality graphics perfectly fine

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why everyone is settling for mediocre HD textures these days I have no clue...given that we are at a time in age where HD is what SD was to all back in 2009

stable stratus
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Its hard to appreciate smaller details when you are designed to skim over them

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Which is the problem with the bfg edition of doom 3.

It wasnt designed for quality but performance.

And in its conquest for sucha thing they completely butchered the original atmosphere and overall quality of the product

scenic stratus
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I like doom 3 but sometimes its kinda awkward being a room with so many demons it becomes kinda strange

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especially with tight corridors

flint bear
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I got disappointed nothing to do without subtitles in DOOM 3 on PS4/PS5 for the Deaf person could be please putting with subtitles (settings)

slim willow
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wraith pumice
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getting the mp achievements in the BFG Edition without the help of friends is literally impossible

slim willow
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Yep

stable stratus
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heck Serious Sam has probly the biggest maps ever for an FPS in the same vein as Doom...and still features plenty of corridors swamped with multiple enemies and yeah...of course those corridor sections feel awkward...that is literally the point of their design

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point being...its tough to believe a comment stating it likes something like Doom 3 but at the same time complains about literally 1 of its core design choices that makes it so unique and fun from the get go

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thats like me saying I love tacos...without all the meat or veggies or spices...did I not just contradict myself?

idle compass
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you mean you don’t just eat the tortilla with cheese

stable stratus
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lol

idle compass
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i put at least one grain of salt on for good measure

stable stratus
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buuuut atm im bout done upscaling all the DDS textures for D3XP to 4096x4096

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tomorrow I plan to finish the rest of the expansions actual textures

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then I gotta get back to finishing the base game

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I kinda am doing things in reverse as I finished the Lost Mission textures first now the expansion will be second then the base game

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as the base game for obvious reasons has the most textures so will take the longest

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and I would like to get some screenshots of my work ingame asap

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and yes you heard correct I upscaled 1089 textures today in less than 2 hours to 4096x4096

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hmmm, Doom 3 place in the Doomiverse is confusing to me

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I know it's chilling in its own universe within the multiverse

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but like, why is it not a prequel to Doom 1? I can never find any satisfying reason for that question

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date wise it lines up provided Doom 1 is in the 22nd century and not the 21st

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which I think was confirmed by Romero

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lore wise it wouldn't interfere with 2016's energy crisis since that would be a separate universe

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and the UAC continuing research on teleporters despite what previously happened wouldn't be out of the ordinary for them, since that's literally what they do for Doom 64 iirc

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There’s the murals in Doom 3 depicting Doomguy.

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oh right, I keep forgetting about those

livid wharf
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Also I remember something about the Slayer’s sarcophagus being somewhere in Doom 3, but that may well be wrong

supple gull
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The Soul Cube is in Olivia's office in 2016, but I think that's just an easter egg.

livid wharf
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Yeah

viral briar
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It might be Slayer’s but the exterior is different.

rain ginkgo
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Doom 3 was a reboot of Doom 1, therefore it kinda holds it's own spot in/out of the timeline. There's some connecting threads but I feel like it's safe to say it's not as linear in connection as the other titles

viral briar
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However, there is a stone tablet (probably on the same place) resembling the original DOOM cover art, I think Hugo Martin (yes) confirmed that it was indeed the depiction of Doomguy.

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The Doom devs constantly rectcon stuff. Makes keeping track of the lore difficult

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Ah idk about Doom2016 I never played, I just know when D3 came out the creators were basically like "Yeah this is as if D1/D2 never happened" so I assumed it was it's own thing, idk I mainly only play D3 lol

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but then after ROE they tried to connect everything with that D3 phone game, and the Doom RPG's (by having those games take place before 3). But it really did not make sense with or without connecting the classic games

scenic stratus
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I mean it could but 2016 feels like it belongs in a completely different universe to 3’s

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Glad they didn’t follow up on that rather 3 just be its own thing

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Doom 2016 was going for the similar vibes 3 had so they could be the same, but I think the thing that makes it feel disconnecting to some (myself included) is the jump to more of the Sci-Fi style

south dirge
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Not even a theory at this point lol

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south dirge
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And they're too confusing for me too understand

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it's why I said "it takes place in 3's universe, while having the DoomGuy from the classic universe"

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There’s a cut line from the Khan Makyr where she mentions earth of the seventh dimension (classic Doom earth)

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yeah looking at it, the Sci-Fi did exist in Classic Doom, but it wasn't something you could use to describe Doom, even with Q3 armors and 3's art which did go a little further with Sci-Fi, you still can't fully describe those as Sci-Fi

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I wonder if the Z-Sec actually say things or it's just gibberish

vernal crest
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maybe it's in another language? Like Latin?

wraith pumice
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don't know

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one non-radio quote does sound like they've said "fuck you", and another radio one sounds like "Capture hiiiiim fuck he's the guy" or something

wraith pumice
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at 0:03 it sounds like ''this specimen''

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honestly, I don't find the Z-Sec to be bad

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they definitely pose more of a threat than some of the fodder demons for sure

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there's only 4 Z-Sec with shields in the base game

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all in the same level

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they were annoying so, maybe that's why?

wraith pumice
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you can cut through them with the chainsaw DoomHunterLaugh

vernal crest
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wait really?! How tf did I play through the zombie shuffle mod and not realize that you can do this?!

wraith pumice
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yeah, you can

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the chainsaw bypasses their shield and gibs them in like a second

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the mod taught me that flashlight also works

wraith pumice
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ah yes, the weapon that is definitely worth using on enemies stronger than the basic Zombie

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well, the flashlight is actually pretty powerful

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Z-Sec's go down with two hits, and Imp's go down with 4 I'm pretty sure

wraith pumice
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come to think of it, Possessed Security are like Shield Z-Sec and Shotgun Guy combined

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not counting attacking Imps that are spawning

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it feels fun whacking the zombies with the flashlight

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death by the might boink

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And gibbing them with either the Flashlight or your bare hands.

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Playing with Weapons of Mars Destruction mod right now and punching zombies to death is so gratifying. It always felt weird that you couldn’t really get away with that in the vanilla game

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Gerty :c

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well managed to complete upto all the models of the expansion today for my 4k texture pack...tomorrow ill do the actual map textures and then get sum photos of the expansion...tho I am and shall still be continuing my progress on the base game

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as of me logging off the PC tonight btw the 4k texture pack for the expansion alone atm is about 55+gigs big...and to think ive yet to actually get to the level textures yet

stable stratus
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And yeah my texture pack is covering every single texture of the game and the mod

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So it gunna be huge

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Sry to anyone expecting a BFG Edition type a 4k texture pack but no, my pack isnt designed for performance, its designed for quality

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Btw i love how the devs programmed icons sizes in the hud rather than rely on the texture size(s) themselves

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Allows for a much higher quality hud overall

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Note tho anyone whod like, may take my texture pack upon release and attempt to compress it and release it as a fork, all i request is credit where due

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As a modder, personally id rather over deliver on quality and let the community optimize it to their pleasing rather than under deliver in sum shape or form from me over optimizing

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says ''metus, dolor, mors ac formidonis''

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leaves

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never to be seen again

rain moss
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actually its called doom cubed 🤓

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huh I am using the dhewm3 sourceport tho it doesnt appear to be 64-bit edition so had to patch it with the LAA patch to get it to use my texture pack

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lol had to put the gzdoom community in its place

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they wanted to make false accusations about my mod work as soon as I shared it...only for me to prove their accusations false

vital raptor
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w to u

stable stratus
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a quote of the last thing I called the gzdoom community out on, "does the community no good when new modders join it only for the community's more senior members to make false accusations about said new modders work...let alone as their first comments towards said newcomers"

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till the senior members of the gzdoom get off their high horses...its quite pointless imho to try and mod anything for it...especially if your as generous as I as a modder

honest lynx
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Gert

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tho I admit I could be getting a lil ahead a myself as well...and it could be the gzdoom community is more familiar with modifying code rather than graphics sooooo yeah

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Doom 3:piece of shit

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doom slayer pfp try to be based challenge (instant fail)

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lolol

rain ginkgo
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rain ginkgo
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I've never had an issue seeing in D3, that's uh, what the flashlight is for

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true people blast it for it not playing like other fast games

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the appeal of doom 3 is more towards the horror and i love it
the demonic vibe in the game is the best in the series

rain ginkgo
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Yeah absolutely, I'm not a fan of what they did with the BFG edition to try to appeal to the critics. Hence why I still play '04 edition D3 lol

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Do you use Dhewm 3?

scenic stratus
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whats dhewm 3

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a mod?

rain ginkgo
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Open Source Doom 3, I use it to play on my Android

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oh my

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ill try it

rain ginkgo
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You should, I have Doom 3+RoE+Lost Mission+Denton's Enhanced Doom+ Classic Doom 3+some other mods on Android

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Oh and patched with Enhanced Edition + HD mods

scenic stratus
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does it need a beefy phone to run

rain ginkgo
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Not from my understanding, check out the app "DeltaTouch"

scenic stratus
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alr

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oh its a wad loader

rain ginkgo
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"DeltaTouch" has GZDoom, LZDoom, Zandronum, Choc Doom, Doom Retro, PRBoom+, and Dhewm3

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So you can run quite a lot of Doom on it.

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Multiplayer works on Dhewm 3 as well as Zandronum, however idk how populated they typically are

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# scenic stratus is my opinion

saying a game is shit isn't an opinion, saying that you don't like it is. There's no need to disrespect the game or it's fans

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you're right men

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Sorry

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it's cool tacodemon

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Started playing Doom 3, interesting story, I feel like it's harder than Eternal for some reason.

scenic stratus
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you cant be serious really

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well in quality it is way better

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true
gameplay wise wouldnt say so

scenic stratus
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Are you playing the BFG version

pastel arrow
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BFG version? I think I’m just playing the normal version

scenic stratus
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What platform

pastel arrow
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Gamepass

scenic stratus
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Xbox or Pc?

pastel arrow
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PC

scenic stratus
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That’s prob the BFG edition then

pastel arrow
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Oh okay

scenic stratus
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Is the flashlight a separate item or strapped on for you?

honest lynx
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Definitely bfg

pastel arrow
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Strapped on for me

scenic stratus
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They don’t call it that anymore unless you’re buying off of steam but modern ports of doom 3 are based off of the bfg edition

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So all the changes and added content like lost missions are the same

pastel arrow
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I just had it after I got my equipment and I can have my gun equipped while the flashlight is activated

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Only difference is that doom 1 & 2 aren’t packaged in with it

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Tbh if you’re willing to pay a few bucks I’d buy the original doom 3

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Since you’re on PC

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holy shit so many doom slayer pfps

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Did anyone play Doom 3 for original Xbox? Did it have Resurrection of Evil?

Also, I'm setting up dhewm3, does anyone know a duct tape mod that works on it

vital raptor
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Bros tootin

rain ginkgo
wraith pumice
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just imagine Doom 3 having Spectres 💀

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I remember seeing a post mention how they could've worked in the game, my own idea actually is to use lightning to be able to spot them

slim willow
viral briar
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RoE is a separate game in the Xbox version unlike the PC version where it is an expansion pack.

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Probably, to make up for that, the Xbox version of Resurrection of Evil includes DOOM and DOOM II, which is also in the main game's collector edition.

wraith pumice
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in ROE’s xbox port, the pistol has a flashlight attachment

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still better than being able to use the flashlight at any time

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Yeah, gives it more use.

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Resurrection of Evil BFG is awesome, a lot of cool scenes like the ghost/genie boss in the first level, fighting mancubus in the radiation sewer, monorail, skyrail

a lot of copied things/references though like aliens from Alien, half life gravity gun, boss with a chest that opens like typing of the dead... not sure if it's cool coz they're tributes or is it just annoying

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well, Doom was inspired by aliens, and the grabber was a cut weapon from the base game that made it's return

dull wigeon
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There's a mod that improves the grabber a lot by remove the blur effect in your face while using it, and also removing the dumb auto release objects after a few second.
The weapon became way more useful and fun with that.

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i love that feeling of fear in this game lol

honest lynx
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I am the fear

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i am the doom

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slim willow
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I guess that explains the 3 in the tittle

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first by firing 5 rockets at him, then throwing the soul cube at him

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poor Sarge, no any other boss in the game dies this easily (then again, it’s the soul cube)

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fighting him in a bigger room without the SC did prove to be annoying, as there was no way to hide from the BFG shot

wraith pumice
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apparently, Doom 3 Hell Knights can bite you

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I never saw it

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they can if you're closer

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what the hell that's goofy lmao

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a scary as shit monster biting you

wraith pumice
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probably my personal favourite new enemy in this game

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it looks cool and its main mechanic is later used for a certain Eternal enemy

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for some reason I thought that it had a cursed smile edited on it

honest lynx
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oh yeah it existed in Classic Doom too definitely

honest lynx
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How is this enemy new ?

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Usually you refer to a new enemy in context to the actually game you're playing when it's a new dlc enemy or so on

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In that that you're in the wrong server

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I'm guessing you consider commandos new also?

wraith pumice
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the hell are you talking about

honest lynx
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This is the best new enemy anyways

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Your mom

scenic stratus
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seriously

honest lynx
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Betruger is clearly the best new enemy in doom 3

scenic stratus
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no doom marine is the best new enemy in doom 3

honest lynx
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The mess hall is the hardest new arena

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yes

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think about it, Wraiths and Gargoyles kinda look similar

acoustic acorn
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Does the Doom 3 BFG disk for ps3 work on ps4?

honest lynx
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honest lynx
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Baby dick ass

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?

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crooked teeth

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no hairline

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hes just like me broooo

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lmfao

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lol

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Most fun to kill though

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okay well I have made more progress in howto make the 4k texture pack for OG Doom 3...in gaining said knowledge I sadly feel there is a need for me to erase previous progress and restart everything from scratch...

Some of the issues I figured out and have finally figured out howto resolve hense the backtracking are...

Was upscalen the compressed textures like a dimwit
How IDSoft made some textures with masks or some form of compression makes it so you have to literally examine each texture and make sure they dont come up completely black when they ought to be transparent

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obviously if it were just the compressed textures that were an issue I wouldve saved hella time maken the texture pack by just deleting them from it

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but its the 2nd issue that truly stalled and reversed progress

honest lynx
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thankfully tho I figured out howto circumvent it

honest lynx
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99 percent of the people here are playing bethesda bfg

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That's because the BFG Edition is more accessible, and it's not a "buggy mess" like Quake live

supple gull
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More like Fake Jive

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more like real chives

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more like high fries

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is it possible to play doom 3 multiplayer nowadays?

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more like thigh highs

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Last time I had a match was 2009

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And lets not forget the BFG edition uses even lower res textures than the OG version

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Doom 3 or BFG edition

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I'm on pc

oak bobcat
cold sand
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Why is it that changing the graphics settings doesn't seem to do anything?

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your likely going off of what you have experienced first hand which is just the BFG edition which is advertised as being superior graphically and better performance...well sadly...like with most remasters...they lied to you about the graphics...in that they are actually a downgrade from their original versions...and how else did they improve performance? Ah thats right...destroy the OG lighting mechanic

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when it comes to games...typically their design is weighed more on performance or quality...there is never a middle ground...and never will be sadly

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its even more difficult with the flashlight and less ammo

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also it is more mod friendly
btw, what doom 3 mods do you recommend?

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again if you think the BFG edition of Doom 3 is the pinnacle of it...you may as well be 1 to think that Warcraft 3 Deforged was the best version of that game

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as both remasters...essentially are the same...only diff is Warcraft 3 Deforged actually delivers slightly higher res textures than the vanilla game...tho at the same time removing many textures all together lol

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Might I point out the person who said the BFG edition was not that buggy was comparing its multiplayer to Quake Live's?

stable stratus
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I have heard of this Quake Live....buuuut honestly it must be just as popular as the last Unreal Tournament that came out or less...cus yeah never heard anything good about it

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That's surprising

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Quake Live is just Quake 3 but with higher resolution support

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It was used for a while for Quake Esports

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meh most gamers I know that like the Quake 3 gameplay ive encountered rather play well OG Quake 3 over Quake Live

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I'm sure Live has its shortcomings compared to the original

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But for more casual gamers I guess who don't wanna have to mess around with setting a game up to work properly, live is more accessible

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I mean biggest short coming I can think of would be the same as whats coming to the OG Doom 3 over the BFG edition...and thats a full true 4k texture pack

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I am the 1 maken such texture pack if you are wondering...got sevrel peeps in the Q3 community patiently waiting for me to finally make that texture pack for them to use

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The other things that made Quake Live popular over the original were: it used to be Free to Play and it used to be playable as a browser game

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You can only play it on Steam now though, and it's like $10-$15

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Which is bullshit to me considering it used to be f2p

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I mean lets be honest...its better to see a game die as pay2play than a F2P any day

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tho honestly it is shocking to hear a game begin life as F2P then die as pay2play

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most companies prefer the opposite route

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Cause it was a browser game

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It was just Quake 3: Browser edition

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No download required

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the BFG Edition is just absolutely downgraded in every way possible

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brighter environments, an armor-mounted flashlight, removed enemies, more ammo etc

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the original already had lots of ammo, in the BFG Edition you literally never run out of ammo

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ROE was also absolutely butchered in BFG. they removed the green forest section of the hell level, changed or ruined entire setpieces and replaced all the unique arcade cabinets with super turbo turkey puncher 3

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at least Lost Mission is awesome

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it's very fast-paced and full of action

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weapon changes (most drastic difference)

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slightly different movement

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also heard that they cut on the gore, and the announcers voice

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# wraith pumice original

whenever i try to play the original i cant play fullscreen else the resolution is weird, its just put into a corner and i can see a squished version of whatever is in the backround behind it, but bfg edition doesnt do this

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should i just play bfg edition

stuck nova
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Nah i need steam hours so my nonexistent friends know how much time they're wasting not playing doom

rose field
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add dhewm3 as a steam game

blazing crown
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Fair

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or you can play windowed mode

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for me its fine (from steam)

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i just press alt enter to go into fullscreen and then then again and then alt tab to go out

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my laptop isnt very good so i need to play on default resolution (800x600) for it to be decently smooth lol

rain ginkgo
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I play Doom 3 with Enhanced Edition via Dhewm3 on my Android, works stellar

honest lynx
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Enhanced is neat

wraith pumice
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it's the same thing with renaming GZDoom to dosbox so it counts steam hours

wide pollen
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my dinble

wraith pumice
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not only do I have the og and BFG Edition versions, but also this one xd

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nice

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How long is doom 3

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My first playthrough was a little over 5 hours.

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doom 3 is longer than doom 2016 it feels like

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First playthrough may be up to 15 hours, replays average around 5 to 7

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NAH BRO YOU GOT THE OG ONES SHIIT

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It is on Steam after all

midnight thistle
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anyone down to play some multiplayer

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doom 3 bfg edition for steam

midnight thistle
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You could even play master levels on the roe port which was cool

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amazing

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the og xbox port of Doom 3 is so damn cool

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the split/changed levels makes it feel unique, there's new things in the levels that didn't exist in the pc version, it's bundled with Classic Doom games and best of all, a coop mode

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it's the only version of the game that has official coop

midnight thistle
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a noticeable thing in the xbox version is that ammo is a lot more rare compared to the og

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makes the game feel more like survival horror as a result

wraith pumice
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makes me worried if there’s a problem with my 360 or something

midnight thistle
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Probably not, I’ve had some huges dips in performance in that game

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But never a full freeze

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perhaps it’s a problem with the 360 emulation idk

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and I also just found out that the freeze always happens in the same area

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it’s when an Imp spawns

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geez in the og xbox port, when you get the berserk power-up, the game becomes so pixelated that it looks like the og Doom

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yeah, this looks really weird

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Mhm, it's the Classic Doom 3 mod

wraith pumice
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you are also using the alpha sounds I see

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hearing Imps making Classic Hell Knight sounds is weird tbh

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Lmao

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”I will eat you!”

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-random Hell Knight that fatally wounds the marine

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in the og xbox version, in the area with Gert, the armor vest is replaced with shells

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the demons also spawn after Gert says his iconic line, so you can hear it in its entirety without it being interrupeted by the demon teleporting sound near the end

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YES!
I think I solved my issue for the Doom 3 texture pack
figured out howto make it compressed and work ingame still
even with shaders like parallax mapping

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game has too many textures to provide and use in its raw TGA format sadly at 4096x4096

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but it is possible to run 4096x4096 in compressed dds format without losing any quality

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the trick to using compressed textures btw...is to disable all the inengine AI that is used to dynamically create compressed textures...which then forces the game to use your precompressed higher quality textures

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surprised no1 else has figured this out yet with the Doom 3

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or if they have, they never implemented it into their work

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i wish berserk appeared more

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its so cool in doom 3

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theres like no powerups in the game

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which really sucks

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There's little to no BFG ammo on Xbox too

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I don't understand why the game is hated, I have colleagues who say that Doom 3 is bad, I got it on the switch, but I have to say Doom 3 is good, I have it through with the story and with the dlcsdealguy

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It's really a certain type of people that think the game is either "bad" or "a bad doom game"

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It’s a pretty big departure from the rest of the series and could really use better combat encounters so I can see why someone wouldn’t love it. Plus the BFG edition which most people have played isn’t a good port.

midnight thistle
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Doom 3 will forever be an amazing game

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People who hate it have probably only played doom eternal and under the age of 13

wraith pumice
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I’m certain it was designed for consoles first and foremost

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It was

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Ported the first 2 games and doom 3 to the Xbox 360 and PS3

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They didn’t even take the og doom 3 off of steam so it wasn’t even meant to be a replacement lol

wraith pumice
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I’d argue that the og xbox version of Doom 3 is better than the BFG Edition

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the changes it has are because of console limitations, not design choices

vital raptor
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doesnt the bfg edition just give u a better flashlight

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theres more but
im not looking further into it

midnight thistle
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i like the better lighting but id rather still have the regular flashlight

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because its more exiciting that way

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idk why the ammo pickups are increased because you can basically play the whole game with one gun

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vital raptor
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Ok

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poor shield using Z-Sec got removed in the og xbox port

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Pistol Z-Sec take their place

midnight thistle
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the shield ones were annoying but if you got a non bullet weapon theyre dead easily

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its always fun to grenade the z secs

wraith pumice
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man it’s just really amazing how well the og xbox port of Doom 3 runs

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sure, it’s 30 fps for obvious reasons, but it also runs very consistently

honest lynx
dim arrow
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anyone here that plays doom 3 multiplayer?

midnight thistle
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i want to but you cant fuckin play bfg online

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im just trying to get achievments ig

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and xbox live shut down in like 2010 so i cant play xbox online lol

wraith pumice
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the amount of ammo you get in the og xbox port is so much lower compared to the og pc version

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I only recently had like 60 shotgun shells in recycling sector, while in the pc version you easily would have like more than 200

dim arrow
supple gull
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The shield Z-Secs were criminally underused fr

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since half the game IS IMMMPSSS

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actually the lighting in the BFG edition isnt "better" in any shape or form...they literally cut the lights on for a game designed from the ground up for the complete opposite

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basically they butchered the lighting in the BFG edition

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in all reality it feels like the BFG edition wasnt designed for consoles as much as mobile

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thats how big of a downgrade it is compared to the OG version

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I bet 20$ John Carmack was bashing his head against the wall when he was told to work on the BFG Edition of his baby...and I wouldnt doubt that is partly why he left ID Software right after it came out

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it literally is a slap to the face to what he had intended Doom 3 to be

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and sadly since Bethesda owns the property now its almost impossible to legally buy the OG version of Doom 3 digitally...rather your forced to resort the downgraded BFG edition.

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tho I do personally offer to those I trust the most a copy of the OG version of the game

midnight thistle
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Doesn’t og d3 come with doom 3bfg now?

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And og roe?

stable stratus
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Bethesda is 1 of those companies that likes to only sell 1 version at a time of their products

midnight thistle
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Hm

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I still got doom 3 and roe then

stable stratus
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nvm

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I stand corrected

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just checked out steam page for BFG

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you are correct

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but

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this description they have for the BFG Edition

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Improved rendering and lighting
Checkpoint save system
Controller support
Armor-mounted flashlight allows you to see and shoot at the same time
Resurrection of Evil Expansion
The Lost Mission Expansion
An embedded version of DOOM (1993)
An embedded version of DOOM II
Stereoscopic 3D (on supported devices)

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sucha bloody joke

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lol the best part of the BFG edition was the Lost Mission DLC

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Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 that are embedded are censored. Checkpoints suck rather than being able to save when and whereever like in the OG version and the lighting and rendering have been completely butchered

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and the mounted flashlight...is about as good as the "improved rendering and lighting"

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you can get a better mounted flashlight in the OG game via a simple lil mod

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lol

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anyone who tries to say the BFG edition is better...clearly needs glasses badly...and not the modern slick type that jeff goldblum has...no the old skool as thick as your head type of glasses

midnight thistle
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I gotta say the mounted light makes it much more fun but og flashlight makes it more exciting

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midnight thistle
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Ya

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for instanse the BFG edition mounted flashlight for sum gawd awful reason is put on the players shoulder...like WHAT?!

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the community made ducttape mod version instead mounts it to your weapons

midnight thistle
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I mean I get that it’s on your shoulder/armor but realistically it probably should light up the whole area

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But yeah I don’t like that it isn’t centered

stable stratus
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now I could be wrong and if I am then what I actually member is the new modelled mounted flashlight on the shoulder is what causes the camera to clip threw the player a lot during cutscenes

midnight thistle
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1 way or another...anyone with 20/20 vision can tell you the OG version of Doom 3 is milestones better than the BFG Edition

midnight thistle
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If bfg didn’t have the insane ammo amount and kept most small things the same it’d be 50/50

stable stratus
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sry you are wrong about that

midnight thistle
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That’s why I said 5050

scenic stratus
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It’s not like the 360 couldn’t take it

stable stratus
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was gunna say the OG version worked fine at 30FPS on the original xbox

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so why they thought downgrading for an updated version of that console...is quite honestly mind boggling

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of course the official statement is gunna be, "Optimization maaaan"

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btw I noticed when upscalen textures for OG Doom 3 in their tga format...yeah seams are a huge eye sore

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but it appears if you upscale the textures into DDS format...seams on the upscaled textures no longer are an issue

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and yes you can use precompressed textures while playing with ULTRA settings meaning max shaders usage perfectly fine with upscaled textures

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again im shocked that I happen to be the modder of the community to figure this out

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I can only guess that cus other modders aim for HD resolutions for their textures...they never really saw the point in even experimenting with compressed textures

stable stratus
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the funny thing is I bet 20$ if the maker of the HDEssentials bundle would take all its included textures and makem DDS format...you wouldnt need a nasa rig to enjoy it with smooth frame rates

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but I doubt he and every other modder for Doom 3 is aware you can make DDS files without losing any quality

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that or they are unaware of howto config the game for sucha thing

scenic stratus
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Isn’t doom 3’s code rather “clean” compared to most games? Like porting it isn’t that difficult compared to other FPS’ at the time.

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I’ve heard that before don’t know if it’s the case

stable stratus
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not sure honestly

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as far as I know the easiest game to port is really Ultimate Doom

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due to the fact it was written originally in the most common code language available

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hense the meme, "Can it run Doom?"

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yes, yes anything can as it likely uses that code language

vernal crest
dim arrow
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but it has better graphics, models, and gameplay than bfg
doom 3 bfg it's like the "i am too young to die" version of doom 3
TOO MUCH ammo, so much that you rarely run out of chaingun and rocket launcher ammo, and those two were weapons with ammo that was hard to find, also the flashlight is now mounted, making the game easier, and the game is too bright, ruining the atmosphere of the original, and the models have less polygons, sargent kelly looks like he's been stung by bees, and imps look hideous with less polygons
also the ps4, ps5, xbox one, xbox series s/x and switch versions don't have multiplayer AT ALL, which is not only bad, but they still give you advice about multiplayer on the loading screens, WHY DO YOU GIVE HINTS ON A MODE THAT IS ONLY ON THE PC, XBOX 360 AND PS3 VERSIONS???
just play the original doom 3 instead.

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the bfg edition is only worth it because of achievements

stable stratus
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if only achievements actually were worth a 1$ investment

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oh and before anyone tries chiming in claiming the sourceports out for the BFG Edition make it worth getting...youre still the worlds biggest fool

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there is no amount of mod work that can be done to the BFG edition to justify investing any amount of money into it

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its just that bad compared to the OG version

stable stratus
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so funny how no1 in the Doom 3 modding community cared to compress their textures...as if they wouldnt work with shaders...they will

only took 2 decades for someone to come along and figure it out

wraith pumice
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there's crawling Imps added to delta labs 3 and hell in the xbox port

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and there's also Ticks in the very last section of delta labs 3 in that long corridor, they only appeared in delta complex in the pc version

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the xbox version has cool scripted sequences that didn't exist in the pc version, like images of the Chainsaw Zombie appearing before encountering him in delta labs 4 and a Z-Sec killing a scientist in Delta Labs 3

wraith pumice
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it’s really surprising that the only console version of Doom 3 that is the og game and not the downgraded BFG Edition is for the og xbox

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the BFG Edition really should have been just the og pc version directly ported to 7th generation consoles with ROE included

honest lynx
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ayo no way

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you can play Doom 3 with no freelook

supple gull
livid wharf
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I’ve seen stuff about rocket jumping being a thing in Doom 3 and have seen videos demonstrating but I can’t figure out how it’s done. Is it just jump and shoot the ground, or something more complicated?

icy bobcat
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how long does the lost mission take?

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in bfg

scenic stratus
vernal crest
scenic stratus
vernal crest
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wait that's the wrong clip, yeah I remembered that I deleted the clip Archie

wraith pumice
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@midnight thistle sorry for the ping but wanted to ask something. do you think the og xbox port of Doom 3 sometimes freezing when playing on a 360 is suprising?

midnight thistle
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Could just be the emulation, no clue

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could just be the emulation, no clue

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could just be the emulation, no clue

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Could just be the emulation, no clue

vital raptor
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what

scenic stratus
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internet bruh moment

midnight thistle
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Why’d it send 4 Archie Archie Archie

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Lmao

scenic stratus
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interent glitch

honest lynx
midnight thistle
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But has huges pauses whenever I pause the game

wraith pumice
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today the game just entirely froze and I had to restart my xbox

midnight thistle
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damn

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Could possibly be the 360

wraith pumice
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wtf?

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is it a problem with emulation or my 360?

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native 360 games work well though

midnight thistle
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Yeah probably the emulation then

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I mean doom 3 wasn’t the best performing game for the Xbox

wraith pumice
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also for some reason sometimes it takes longer for games to get to a menu/save than usual

midnight thistle
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It’s still impressive how they got things like hl2 and d3,d3roe on Xbox

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No other console could handle those at the time

wraith pumice
midnight thistle
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Do you have a series x or an Xbox one

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I think those can play older games too

wraith pumice
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no, only 360

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I'm certain there's something wrong with my 360 though

midnight thistle
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I mean it plays 360 fine

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I have no clue tho

wraith pumice
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I remember playing Serious Sam's original xbox port on my 360 and it also sometimes freezed too

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but no any native 360 games freezed when I played them

midnight thistle
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I wish we got next encounter

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On xbox

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The gamecube version costs like 300$

stable stratus
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that was literally 1 of the OG xbox's selling points to devs when it came out

wraith pumice
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anyone remembers him?

vernal crest
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how could we forget?

honest lynx
frosty holly
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The worst way to play DOOM but yet the most impressive
DOOM 3 BFG Edition, running at 60FPS in a PlayStation 3 EMULATOR on PC!
Specs:

  • Ryzen 7 3800x (8 Cores/16 Threads) at 4,5GHz All-Core
  • NVIDIA RTX 3060 12GB VRAM Edition
  • 32GB RAM @ 3000MHz
  • Running off a SSD
vernal crest
midnight thistle
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Dooob 3?????!!!

midnight thistle
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who want to play some doom 3 bfg multiplayer

stable stratus
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well after a long weekend I am happy announce I officially finally got ALL model textures of the base OG Doom 3 game fully upscaled to true 4096x4096/4k

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next to to do the actual map/level textures

vital raptor
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nice job!!!

midnight thistle
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DOOOM 33333

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mmy beeloooveed

vernal crest
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Boom 3 our beloved 😍😍

scenic stratus
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best atmosphere in any doom game for sure

arctic anchor
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has anyone been able to get doom 3 skin in doom eternal?

scenic stratus
midnight thistle
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wtfffff

midnight thistle
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wasnt even aiming at the other dude lol

remote wagon
vernal crest
wraith pumice
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so, the bottle of plasma used for reloading the BFG in the og xbox port is blue instead of green

midnight thistle
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yeah

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me in doom 3 loading the bfg with radioactive piss:

vivid wharf
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why you want to play doom 3 ,IF U have eternal

wraith pumice
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who in the world would compare Doom 3 to Eternal lol

scenic stratus
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I mean my computer struggles to run both 😬

scenic stratus
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better question
why would you play eternal if you have doom 3

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honest lynx
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Thats a shame both are amazing games. I feel all mainline doom games have something to offer that others don't

vernal crest
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Granted, some people prefer the horror action side of Doom, while some prefer the fast paced action side (which is mostly modern Doom)

honest lynx
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And then there's both like me

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Why box yourself in

scenic stratus
vernal crest
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Not too much really, Eternal still has its own horror elements (which are more noticeable if you play without the music. Horrific Ik)

vernal crest
honest lynx
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And doom 3 kills it in that aspect

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Although I haven't played 3 like a horror game since 2004 lol

vernal crest
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Mhm, hell I'm pretty sure a lot of us here really like the mix of horror and action

vernal crest
honest lynx
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And in the end if you want to compare nu doom with 3 then it has to be 2016 not eternal. 2016s UAC is heavily inspired by 3

vernal crest
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"the UAC takes pride in it's safety records" turns to dead bodies and cults

honest lynx
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Jesus 2004 is retro??? 👨‍🦳

vernal crest
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Yup, we're past 2010's HugA

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||even tho I'm only a year older than 3 itself lol||

honest lynx
slim marsh
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Doom 3 enjoyer here with my favorite screen saver

warped oak
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i love Doom 3, you guys are the best

opal turret
wraith pumice
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I decided to play the og version of the game without unlocking the lockers

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will see how much harder the game will be without them

vernal crest
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Good luck

wraith pumice
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the only appearance of this Zombie type in the entire game

honest lynx
scenic stratus
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Can I dm someone about doom 3. I’ve a got some questions bout it

runic helm
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DOOM 3 is GOAT DOOM btw

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Especially the original Xbox port

viral briar
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I was lucky to have bought the Collectors Edition. Basically a better BFG Edition in terms of it having DOOM (1993) and DOOM II.

hard laurel
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That's how I got Doom 1 and 2 as well, showed up in a secondhand shop and I got it for three dollars. Never touched doom 3, only played the classics.

scenic stratus
wraith pumice
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finished the og xbox port quite a few hours ago

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it might be one of the best console ports I ever played. despite how much the campaign was made shorter and there's obvious graphics and framerate downgrades due to console limitations, it still retains the atmosphere of the og version well, has most of its features intact, has new scripted sequences that didn't exist in the pc version and it runs very well

scenic stratus
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Anyone still play doom 3 multiplayer?

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I'm looking for multiplayer buddies

thorn cosmos
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I honestly forgot Doom 3 had multiplayer

wraith pumice
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other than the flashlight being attached to the pistol, what notable changes the og xbox port of ROE has?

supple gull
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Hell is split into two levels just like the main game

scenic stratus
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I thought all the levels were split

supple gull
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I forgot which ones as I haven't played the Xbox version in a long time

quasi silo
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Not 100% sure on this one but i think if you play DOOM 3 with gamepass it won't redeem the skin. Refunding the game does not take away your skin, though.

wraith pumice
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even though people say Doom 3 doesn’t feel like a true Doom game, it actually does to me

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you can play it fast like the classic games

vernal crest
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when the game came out, the common complaint was that "it was too much like Doom". And unlike the "it's not a Doom game" nonsense the people who were saying the first one actually had valid arguements

viral briar
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People in 2004 upgraded their PCs just to be able to run DOOM 3 at its best.

scenic stratus
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truly the best atmosphere
dark and gritty as hell

analog storm
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I like how at the start of the game most of the dialogue is mainly just "I can't work now you should go back to work too."

dark sky
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I found a Doom 3 launcher on FDroid

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idTech4A++

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honest lynx
supple gull
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T. Washington is one of the few people that's nice to you

vernal crest
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and I guess that one marine that was patrolling the base

supple gull
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Yeah him too

runic helm
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I love the performance Dr Bertuger’s voice actor gives. He sounds so deliciously evil. One of the few actually memorable and quotable DOOM characters

quasi silo
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"Making progress, are we?"

viral briar
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Ooh really?

vernal crest
runic helm
scenic stratus
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If you had to explain to somebody that has never played Doom 3 why Doom 3 is goated what would you tell them about it?

vernal crest
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The same thing we always say.

runic helm
# scenic stratus If you had to explain to somebody that has never played Doom 3 why Doom 3 is goa...

The combat is very satisfying, each weapon is useful in its own way and feels good to use. The reimagined enemies are all great and never grow stale even 12 hours into the game. The level design is the star of the show. This game has some of the absolute BEST atmosphere I’ve ever experienced in a video game. This is due to the game being a technical marvel for its time. If I had to describe the UAC base, I’d say it’s like Metal Gear Solid 2 if most of the lights were turned off and demons from hell were hiding in every corner. The Hell levels look incredible as well with strong art direction. The sound design is also integral to the experience and really sells the spookiness. The optional text and audio logs are straight out of immersive sims like System Shock and do a nice job of selling you on this world you’re exploring. The stronger horror-focused direction that DOOM 3 takes on is great and is true to the spirit of classic DOOM. The flashlight mechanic is good actually, and is a cinch to use and the BFG Edition absolutely ruins that aspect of the game. I’ve played DOOM 3 a bunch of times on multiple platforms and every time I’ve always thoroughly enjoyed it

scenic stratus
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For me The BFG edition didn't ruin the game, it feels pretty much the same for me

vernal crest
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Maybe your first playthrough was with the BFG Edition

honest lynx
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Can your bfg edition do this

heady flare
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what were you expecting out of it?

scenic stratus
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what is awful about doom three

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thats exactly why its like that

heady flare
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have you finished the game?

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finish the game

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it's really not a bad game at all

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nobody said it was

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give the game a chance before tossing it out as trash

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have you played doom 2?

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no one who beat doom 2 would say that

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doom 3 is original and tries many new things

doom 2 is a terrible map pack that serves as a modding tool first and foremost